Jan. 4, 2026 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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Radio Show Hour 1 – 2026/01/03
He listened to the speeches from Turning Point USA’s recent “AmericaFest” so you didn’t have to! David Zsutty, Executive Director of The Homeland Institute, kicks off a brand-new year of TPC broadcasts by reporting on what he heard from the likes of Erika Kirk, Ben Shapiro, Steve Bannon, Nicki Minaj, and JD Vance. Zsutty, a former U.S. Air Force Staff Sergeant who served as an airborne linguist, also delivers a provocative take on the developing situation in South America.
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It all starts over tonight, and I had such a good lineup tonight.
Well, the lineup actually stayed the same.
They're just being sort of repurposed and reutilized.
But a great sort of cross-section of everything that makes TPC special.
In the second hour, we're going to have some storytelling from Harry Cooper.
Just, you know, I wanted to ease in to this new year, right?
You know, the first year of the year, we're going to ease into it and then get back up to speed.
And in the third hour, we're still going to go to South Africa live from South Africa, where it will be Sunday morning and summertime over there.
Rich Hamblin and Janice Hamblin are there with Simon Roche in South Africa.
We're still going to do that.
And we're still going to have the hour right now with David Zutty.
And we're going to get even to what David Zutty was going to be talking about exclusively a little later on this hour.
But yes, of course, we have to make time tonight for the situation in Venezuela.
And before I introduce our first guest of the new year, I will just tell you, if you've still been sleepy from reveling on New Year's Eve, I guess everybody knows what has happened.
Just to give you a background, back in July, the Trump administration sanctioned the so-called Cartel de las Soles, which it defined as a Venezuelan-based criminal group led by Nicolas Madero and other high-ranking Venezuelan individuals in the Madero regime.
The administration designed it as designated it rather as a foreign terrorist organization.
Now, available data from federal agencies and the United Nations show that Venezuela is not a significant source of drugs flowing into the United States, especially fentanyl.
But nevertheless, this cartel, and they don't even know if it actually exists as any kind of organized drug cartel.
But now, Maduro has been captured.
And he has been kidnapped from his bed along with his wife last night in the early morning hours and has been extradited.
He is in New York now where he will stand trial, according to United States Attorney General Pam Bondi in a social media post today on X. Madero and his wife have been indicted in the Southern District of New York.
They face charges of narco-terrorism conspiracy, cocaine importation conspiracy, possession of machine guns, and conspiracy to possess machine guns.
I mean, what are we doing here, man?
What is happening?
And we just got lucky tonight, insomuch as that David Zutti, who is, of course, the executive director of the Homeland Institute, is also a former staff sergeant in the United States Air Force and served as an airborne linguist.
So with his military background, he is particularly well-informed to offer commentary on this.
What a way to start 2026.
David, welcome back, and let's start there.
Let's start now.
But I know some people in our circles are a little hesitant about what happened with Venezuela, but I think this was a huge victory for us.
It was a very surgical, quick strike.
Maduro's government and also Hugo Chavez before him was virulently anti-white.
They essentially ran the middle class and white people out of that country for the most part, while these refugees are in fact not the drug.
Some of them are the drug society, but a lot of them are good people who just didn't want to starve to death.
So one of the things I want to hear is I want to change the Cuban refugees during the Fidel Castro takeover in Cuba.
Yeah.
So what I want to do is I want to actually see remigration happen here and do that because a lot of these people are probably going to go home and really they don't have an excuse if things work out well and they probably will.
So that's very good.
Also, a lot of this has to do with the oil.
Like we need to just be very blunt here about this and look at it strategically.
This is a huge amount of oil which is now under American influence.
Basically, America is pleased to control about half of all the oil on Earth.
And this is going to do, first of all, that's great for our economy.
Second, this really gives leverage if China tries to invade Taiwan.
The best thing to do is try to not fight China.
The way you fight China is to fight them on fifth generation warfare, which is what they're doing, where economics is just as much a theater of war as, say, the Pacific.
So that's very important.
And then, two, Russia, what's probably going to happen is that Russia will be undercut very severely in the market.
And that means that they're going to have huge economic and budgetary issues, which could easily collapse their war effort.
And this is good because also going back to our issues, what's going on is that there have been most of the, oh, I'm going to address the criticisms about this operation first, which is that this is something done on behalf of Israel.
And we're all being fooled.
And this is just about going after Hezbollah's funding there because it's generally known that there's Hezbollah sympathizers there who send money over to Hezbollah and Israel doesn't like that.
And we're simply being fooled.
Yes, Israel probably likes what happened.
But what's also happened is that this has also set the stage to go after other people we don't like in Latin America, including Cuba, sorry, Cuba, Colombia, and Mexico.
I was a former Spanish linguist, so I can do that.
So what's going to, and this is great because, first of all, this going after drug cartels is good, expanding our sphere of influence.
These regimes are anti-white.
And this is one of those problems where people, they invert Carl Schmidt's friend-enemy distinction.
For example, and it's very reductive what they do.
They see, okay, there are Jews that are happy about what happened in Venezuela.
Therefore, I must oppose it.
And if I don't, I'm being fooled and it's a trap and I'm a dumb goy.
No, because you need to think about what your objectives are and your interests too.
And sometimes they do, in fact, coincide, even though I consider Israel to be the arch enemy of civilization.
This is actually better for us because, yes, Maduro was anti-white.
This will get refugees flowing back the other direction.
Also, it's setting the stage to hopefully topple other regimes.
This doesn't seem like wishful thinking or bluster.
Trump has already threatened those three countries, Mexico, Cuba, and Colombia, along with Marco Rubio.
And this is good because Colombia actually does do drug stuff.
And if you've ever played a strategy game, Hearts of Iron 4, all that, what you do is that you go after the easy targets first, usually.
That can be good or bad.
I'm going to address the bad in a second.
But Germany, if you want to close up a front that's easy first, so you can then tackle the hard problem.
Colombia and Mexico and Cuba are going to be a lot more difficult.
Cuba will probably be a lot easier once Raul Castro dies, cuando el se muerde, because it's a dysfunctional country just like Venezuela.
People are starving.
Colombia is not as dysfunctional.
Mexico is also not that dysfunctional.
They have a lot of patriotism against America because El Green go this and that.
But eventually, so it's probably all that's another factor.
It's probably a bigger factor than trying to please Netanyahu.
It was actually probably this is the easiest regime to topple because it's so dysfunctional.
These people were starving.
I've watched Venezuela for years and years and somehow it gets worse.
It's truly amazing.
And I'm hopeful about going after the cartels too, is that this will transform domestic enemies like the Democrats into foreign enemies because oftentimes they are helping people cross the border.
Those people are usually cartels.
We can therefore hopefully deal with them with various measures.
And the left tried to do that with us for the whole Russia collusion scandal, which was fake and nonsense and unfortunately caused a lot of reactive thinking.
But they inverted Carl Schmidt's friend Emmy distinction to said, well, Russia is based because the Democrat hoax.
And that's also very reductive and not logical.
Putin is not pro-white, and I can go on about that.
But focusing back here, one of the problems, though, is that Trump has a tendency to act very aggressively on foreign policy.
And this isn't just because he's a lapdog of Bibi Netanyahu, even though he definitely sucks up to BB way more than is appropriate or I'm comfortable with.
It's simply easier to act in the international sphere because there's no Congress and the judiciary and rogue judges can't get in the way as much.
It's simply easier to disbe the executive.
At home, you have to deal with all the stupid rules and you have to go to the Supreme Court to tell the rogue judges to hush and then they don't always hush anyways.
Congress is full of rhinos.
You have to deal with the state governments.
It's a big mess.
And then you have elections.
And I've noticed this too with re-migrations that the Trump administration, including Elon Musk, other people, they're very, very pro-re-migration in Europe.
But especially on for the most part, even they don't seem to do civic nationalism over there.
They say like, yes, Germany for the Germans, just ethnic.
Here, of course, they're still stuck in the Constitution and nation ideas.
They're more civic nationalists.
But Elon Musk a few days ago reposted an edit that was like full Europa built to power.
There was some, I think, imagery from everyone's favorite interwar time period in that.
And this is simply him.
People, of course, will say that he's acting in bad faith.
He's maybe being erratic.
I think it's mostly that he's not acting in bad faith.
It's that he's being red-pilled in real time.
He is erratic.
And he simply, it's easier for them to push things they want in America overseas, whether that's in Latin America or Europe.
This is Keith Alexander.
Let me just cut in for just a moment on this.
You know, do you see the fingerprints of Massad on this?
You know, they tend to favor assassinations and kidnappings rather than full-fledged wars.
And, you know, it just happened to occur at the same time when there's, when Netanyahu is over here meeting with Trump, I'm sure that Israel and the Jews generally are going to get quite a bit of something out of here.
On the other hand, I'm like you, if this is going to shut down illegal drugs coming out of the world.
I don't think that had very much to do with it.
Well, I don't know that it does, but I'm just trying to figure out.
All right, we're going to get to the other side of the argument.
Something else to think about.
Also, I'm wondering about Bolsonaro.
Do you think he intends to get him sprung out of jail down in Brazil?
Well, all right, that's a lot of questions, but I guess the big question is, and you can take those in any way that you want, David, because, you know, again, and we have to make mention of the fact, and I'm sure David is very well aware of this, is that most of the people that we associate with, and when I say we, I'm talking about David and I and Keith and our collective, are very much taking a negative point of view on this.
David is offering a different take on it from a pro-white perspective.
So trying to keep in mind the plethora of questions Keith has put forth also answer.
And we're going to get into some of the other side takes and arguments.
And when we have Patrick Martin and Jose Nino on the show next week for a more comprehensive deep dive into this, I know that they're going to take very much a negative stance on this.
How does this serve white interests?
Or are white interests being served at all?
Right.
So first of all, this is about building Fortress America and getting rid of trying to be the world policeman.
We spent decades of my life really just being the world policeman for Israel in the Middle East.
This was in our hemisphere, according to the Monroe Doctrine.
It's not, if this was going to be an Israeli op, this would have been against Iran.
And I do think with BB's visit that that has something to do with Venezuela, but the main topic was probably these protests in Iran, which seemed very astroturfed.
And what a coincidence.
I think that was the main topic.
This probably came up.
Israel's interests there is simply cutting off the funding to Hezbollah.
And I do not like that, but the benefits to that outweigh any detriments that come from making Israel happy on one single issue.
And we simply can't, just like we can't make our policy based upon what, you know, the Jews cry about something or Jews clap about something.
We have to just think what our interests are and how can we promote them.
I think we are getting a lot more out of this than the Jews are.
And sometimes your enemies do have common enemies and stuff can happen.
And I do think that the protests over there are very astroturfed.
I saw somebody on Telegram talk about how the Iranians are not going to overthrow the government because their institutions are not hollowed out.
It's not a dysfunctional country.
It's actually pretty advanced.
I don't even consider Iran to be a Middle Eastern country because they aren't part of the Sunni-Arab throne roll dysfunction that you see.
They're a lot smarter.
They're ironically kind of close to Europeans, even though they're not white.
And they're not going to be toppled over these protests.
I'm pretty sure the Riot police are going to just bludgeon them to death and not bludgeon them to death, but give them some knocks in the head so that there's no actual deaths.
So Trump can't act upon his threat to invade him for BB will like him to.
But yeah, the protests in Iran are probably related to Israeli stuff.
But this is simply, I don't think it's a massad op just because it was a surgical strike.
I think that was Hexf talking about how much earlier he does not like open-ended missions.
He does not like mission creeps.
So this is simply they're going to go in, decapitate the leader.
In fact, this hasn't even escalated to what I thought it was.
This is going to be a gradual rolling back of integrated air defense systems where you have cruise missiles and jets flying around and you slowly hit radar sites and SAM sites and knock jets out of the sky and you gradually go forward.
That would be a lot more expensive and even in some ways more risky, some ways less risky, but we haven't come to that.
I might come to that because the regime seems to be just holding on, but I'm pretty sure none of these people are going to die from meme ideology.
Well, another point.
Jason Kessler, go ahead, go ahead.
And then I want to work something in before we come to the break.
Yeah.
I also, this is thinking way, way far ahead.
I do want to intimidate Eurocrats and other people who promote anarcho-curing the great replacement with the strike.
I don't think we can escalate to kinetic attacks quite yet, like dragging Eurocrats out of their bedroom.
But I do believe they should be placed on terrorist watch lists for engaging in terrorism, which is anarcho-tyranny, and also debanked for engaging in genocide, the great replacement.
Whether this is a law clerk or a cop on the beat up to Keir Starmer, they should all be sanctioned, debanked, deplatformed, and put on notice that we do not consider them to be protected by international law.
I know we're probably not going to start kidnapping them, but these people are cowardly.
They've never had any pushback, and this will make them distinctly uncomfortable.
They haven't even dealt with debanking.
So I think we should start treating the people we don't like as terrorists, and also N5Is.
But that's the whole article I'm going to write for countercurrents later on.
Well, are we going to start going after anti-American governments in the Western Hemisphere now?
Is that the new agenda as opposed to being the world's policeman?
We're going to be the Western Hemisphere's policeman.
That seems to be what people in the administration are saying.
It's also what we are pushing online.
And I do think so.
I think we should start.
Again, going back to Bolsonaro, I think we should pressure Brazil.
I don't think we could.
We don't need to necessarily use kinetic force, but if we isolate, embargo Brazil, they will probably fold.
Or we can use some limited strikes.
All right, so here, again, just to reset the table.
I don't like half-baked commentaries and half-baked.
You know, this thing has just happened a few hours ago, if you're listening live.
It happened earlier this morning.
And so everybody's still processing this.
And anybody who comes out online and tells you how much they know exactly what's happened is not right.
I actually appreciate the fact that David's coming on tonight with a view that puts him, I guess, within the minority of pro-white commentators, at least online.
I generally have a negative view of this, but I don't also think it's the end of the world.
And it certainly doesn't discount the good things that Trump has done.
I don't think it necessarily is a good thing that this has happened.
I mean, it definitely reeks a little bit of things we have seen and things that he campaigned against doing.
But David is making a case here.
Let's just reset, though, very quickly.
The Democrats, of course, ripping the Trump administration in wake of the strike, saying that the Trump administration has conducted an illegal war in Venezuela.
Of course, they're going to say that because they're not the ones in power.
Had they been in power, they would have probably done the same thing if the Jews asked them to, if this is, in fact, a Jewish And also, I do believe that there's a difference between this and Iraq.
Obviously, Iraq was a quagmire for many, many years.
I think that what you saw last night may be the end of this.
We'll see.
Trump's saying, though, that the United States would run Venezuela and take control of its oil until it can ensure a political transition following the capture of President Maduro.
I have a question, a legal question for you, because in addition to everything else, his former military training and his duties as the executive director of the Homeland Institute, David Zuddy is an attorney by education and by trade.
All right, so again, the people online that take the other side of this are saying that Trump is basically confirming that he is annexing Venezuela until he or his handlers can find a puppet to install as a leader who no doubt agrees to provide access to U.S. oil companies and U.S. banks.
We know who runs those.
Another comment: the Trump administration can bomb foreign countries' boats and arrest foreign leaders, but cannot arrest a single Democratic traitor, deep state saboteur, or deport a Somali fraudster.
All right, another thing to keep in mind.
And then here's one from Sam Dixon, a fellow attorney and a friend of yours and mine and ours.
Sam wrote this today: I don't understand how the U.S. can arrest foreign heads of states like Panama's Noriega and now Venezuela's Maduro and prosecute them on American soil before American courts for violating our domestic drug laws.
How could we work for years to drag Julian Assange out of Europe and to try to try him for violating espionage laws?
Since when did America have the right to punish foreign nationals for spying on the U.S. on foreign soil?
This outrageous arrest of Maduro, Sam writes, will ultimately serve to legitimize him and his government by wrapping them in the mantle of Venezuelan nationalism.
So that's the other side there.
There's one more thing, too.
This is going to basically invite China, Russia, or other extraterritorial enemies to get involved on behalf of these left-wing nations that are anti-American to a greater extent, possibly.
I don't know.
Well, David, you're more of an expert on this.
Give us your thought on that.
You've seen all these arguments.
I know you're well aware of the other side.
So again, answer those in your very informed way.
All right, so I'll start with the military question because that's the least thorny one.
China is completely focused right now on taking Taiwan or pressuring Taiwan to fall towards them.
Their war planning isn't really based around getting involved in Latin America.
Now, their tentacles are all over there.
But to really try to stop us from making Fortress America, they're going to have to take Taiwan first for practical reasons and also just morale reasons.
Russia can't even conquer Ukraine.
I don't think they have anything to spare for Latin America right now.
I think they were also blindsided by this.
Cuba was apparently guarding, as in kind of coercing Maduro, it seems like.
That's why I get the sense they talk about the Cuban guards there.
And it seemed like he may have wanted to surrender.
We don't know all the facts.
I do want to say, I agree with you.
We need to be careful about hot takes when this happened.
But it seemed like to some extent he was quasi-captive of the Cubans.
And they're a communist, anti-white country.
And what this comes down to is that China and Russia don't have anything to really spare right now.
For example, I was very not happy to see Assad leave Syria because Assad was pretty much the best thing you can get in the Middle East.
He wasn't a brutal tyrant.
He was actually moderate.
He was fighting ISIS.
ISIS was an invention of Israel to terrorize the region and destabilize it.
But they couldn't prevent Assad from being overthrown.
Now, part of that was because Assad's government became corrupt.
There were some issues.
And Assad was also very important with the Belt and Silk Road Initiative that China wants to link up with the Mediterranean.
So if they couldn't save Assad's bacon when he's closer to home to them, and also kind of a linchpin to their strategy, I don't think they're going to be able to retaliate in Latin America.
They just aren't going to be able to, especially Russia.
Their hands are tied up in Ukraine, and it's not going, the war has not developed necessarily to Russia's advantage.
And this is a, let me ask you this: Do you think this would cause a metamorphosis where we get out of Ukraine and Taiwan and take care of our own knitting over here in the Western Hemisphere?
Nick, actually, you know, Keith had no idea that this happened, but just before the show started, Nick Griffin asked that same question if that could be a possibility of what's happening here.
So I'd be very interested in your take on that, former staff sergeant.
No, well, first, here's the thing.
Russia began this whole thing of the line of contact and screw your rules-based order.
So if that's going to happen, it's going to be because it's in our interest.
I think it's in our interest not to get involved in a kinetic conflict with China over Taiwan.
But China's modus operandi is to do fifth-generation warfare, which is full spectrum, which is everything.
They're looking at this economically.
Yes, at some point they might do a blockade, if maybe even a full-scale invasion, but that's going to be tailored around everything.
We could really hurt China pretty bad if we simply just kick them out of the country and didn't let this fly and all that.
The other thing is that Ukraine, Russia did attack a civilized white European country.
David, we've got to take a break.
This is the only break we're going to take this hour, but we do have to take it.
And it's a hard break.
And we'll come back.
Very interesting takes from David Zuddy, who we repurposed for this conversation just hours before the show today.
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The U.S. strikes Venezuela and says its leader has been captured and flown out of the country.
Multiple explosions and low-flying aircraft were seen in Caracas in the early hours of Saturday morning.
Maduro's government immediately accused the U.S. of an imperialist attack on civilian and military installations.
U.S. President Donald Trump posted on Truth Social that Maduro had been, along with his wife, captured and flown out of the country.
He added that the operation was done in conjunction with U.S. law enforcement.
President Trump says Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro was using his role in Venezuela to run a criminal enterprise.
As alleged in the indictment, he personally oversaw the vicious cartel known as Cartel de las Solas, which flooded our nation with lethal poison, responsible for the deaths of countless Americans.
The FAA has banned U.S. commercial flights in Venezuela airspace over ongoing military activity.
BBC correspondent Will Grant reports on the first reaction from the Venezuelan regime.
We know that the Venezuelan government has issued a state of emergency, as you would expect.
They have put out a statement in which they say they energetically and fully reject and decry and denounce the actions which they've laid place firmly at the feet of Washington.
The FBI says it disrupted a New Year's Eve attack plot in North Carolina, arresting an 18-year-old who allegedly pledged loyalty to the Islamic State group.
Christian Certivant is charged with attempting to provide material support to a foreign terrorist organization.
More on these stories, townhall.com.
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Okay, so we were having a great conversation with David Zutty, our guest tonight, director of the Homeland Institute, also an attorney, also a former staff sergeant in the United States Air Force, so he can wear many different hats.
And he is tonight.
But we were just talking during the break.
My default position on this is that in my lifetime, and I'm 45 years old, there's never been one of these regime changes that has been in the interest of whites.
And so my default position is nothing has changed here.
The more things change, the more they status up.
Next week, we're going to have Patrick Martin.
He's a former government contractor who's worked in 78 different countries on behalf of Uncle Shmuel.
And he spent the majority of his time in the former Soviet Union, Eastern Europe, the Middle East, sub-Saharan Africa.
Two master's degrees.
Smart guy.
He's done this kind of work.
Jose Niño will be back on next week as well.
Venezuelan by heritage.
He knows the players.
He knows the thing.
But, you know, David is just as well informed as they are.
And we've given you his credentials.
And it's okay to see things from a different lens or interpret things from a different perspective because we are all on the same page in terms of us being pro-white partisans.
But that gets back to the whole situation here.
And so here's the thing.
I don't buy into the whole thing that this was done because of drug smuggling or that Madero was a dictator.
I just don't.
I think that that's nonsense.
Now, here is one thing that was put forth that really needs to be looked at and to be squared.
So you've had this regime change now.
And you've got Maria Machado, who is the leader of the Venezuelan opposition party.
She just won the Nobel Peace Prize, by the way, and she's likely to become the newly installed leader of Venezuela.
Her political party, Vente Venezuela, established a formal cooperation with Netanyahu's Laikud party in Israel back in 2020.
She's promised to move the Venezuelan embassy to Jerusalem when she becomes president, re-establish Venezuela to Israel oil transfers, and she would invite the Israeli military to join operations in the country.
She's a well-known supporter of all kinds of left-wing woke ideology.
And this is the kicker, David, is that she's promised to, quote, modernize Venezuela's banking system.
That is not an invitation to the Jews.
I don't know what is.
So, you know, again, now that hasn't happened yet.
She's not the president yet.
But if that does happen, I mean, that certainly lends some credence to the whole, you know, maybe this was all for Israel type of thing.
There is probably multiple things going on here, but I still think this is a soft target.
And also, Maduro is just simply an obnoxious leftist, anti-American, anti-white.
I agree.
They said nothing about that.
He was that.
He was all about that.
And about the Israeli thing, which I also don't like, Orban Victor of Hungary is very much a Zionist and pro-Israel.
However, he's also, which I don't approve of.
It's weird.
I don't like it.
But he's also at the forefront of resisting the Great Replacement and the European Union.
So, again, I don't like it, but it is what it is.
He's at the forefront of the Great Replacement.
Oh, what?
He's at the forefront of Orban is the only one who's not afraid of the forefront.
I know Orban is, but aren't the Jews?
Jewish power and influence has been in the forefront of every left-wing movement we've experienced in America since World War II.
That's absolutely true, but Orbon proves that there are people who can be pro-Jewish as much as I dislike that and distrust it, but not replace their own people.
So I'm going to wait and see.
I think there is a tendency right now to that we need to, I think there's also a problem we need to address the Trump derangement syndrome on the right.
And I will name names here.
This is mostly from Eric Stryker and the TRS crowd, which is simply perpetually seething because stuff fell apart mostly due to their own incompetence of the NJP.
There's a lot of resentment.
I hate to use the word third worldist, but they have kind of fallen into that.
They just feel betrayed by Trump.
They never got over the sense of betrayal from Trump's first term.
I consider Trump to be full of problems, very clueless, living in the past.
But I'm going to take what I can and make it work as best as I can and try to find revenge as where I can.
Well, it seems to me like the main opposition on the right are people like Philip Giraldi and Michael Hudson and people like that.
Maybe them too.
But no, I think what you're saying, though, David, I agree with, and that is in so much as this, there are people ostensibly on our side, or they say they're on our side, who I think find more joy in Trump failing than they would with white interests being advanced.
And I will tell you, Jason Kessler has talked about this today, and I like Jason Kessler.
I think he's pretty sharp.
And I know he's worked with countercurrents and V-Dair, and we have him on pretty regularly.
He was on last week, and he said, he wrote this, to your point, wild to see the Palestinian firsters hyperventilating about Maduro.
Hard to get worked up over a targeted operation lasting one night that ends in a hostile authoritarian regime in our hemisphere.
We really have been infiltrated by Reds whose job is to pitch us far-left politics for based reasons.
We went from 25 million illegals entering the country under Biden to almost none, and the foreign-born population is decreasing.
I don't care what happens to Maduro, Kessler writes.
All that matters to me are demographics and immigration.
These things have improved under Trump.
And then he goes on to talk about how Nicholas Maduro was an anti-white and talked about white supremacy being the great bane of the world and so on and so forth.
So this, again, though, folks, is just to accentuate the point that there is a disagreement and people are seeing this different ways.
We'll have guests on next week that see it differently than Jason and David.
But I appreciate your take tonight, David.
Please continue.
Yes, another thing is that the people are noticing a problem, which is the disparity between foreign policy and domestic policy.
For example, we went after Maduro, but we have not avenged Charlie Kirk, which was an issue that came up at Amfest.
And so what I plan on doing with this, and what everyone on X is already saying, is that they're going to highlight the disparity between how basically America is occupied, falling apart.
Parts of it are just a shithole country, to be blunt.
I hate to use that language, but Trump did.
It really is.
Look at Los Angeles, look at New York.
And we have to go to the United States.
We have no shithole countries here in America, like Blue State American General.
Yeah.
So we have to use this as leverage.
And my notice is that they do respond to leverage.
If we start a campaign, if we all start saying the same thing, they respond or they back off or we get concessions.
For example, we were able to force Elon Musk to pivot to talking about the grooming slash rape gangs in Europe because we beat him decisively at the HMB battle of Christmas a year ago.
And with this, we can say, okay, this is wonderful.
We got Maduro.
All right, well, I want to see Cuba gone.
I want to see Columbia disciplined.
I want to see especially Mexico because that's right on our border.
Also, why are we allowing this to be a family?
I prefer to see Letitia James discussed.
Well, and that's the thing people have brought up.
can we do this, but we can't clean out Somalis from Minnesota.
But I would ask you to answer this from a legal point of view.
Or investigate Charlie Kirk's death.
All of this.
These are legitimate questions that need to be looked at, and we're not going to brush it under the rug.
As I say, I'm not pro-Trump or anti-Trump.
If he does things that we like, we're going to praise him.
If he does things we don't like, we'll cover that.
I'm going to see everything through the lens of white advocacy.
If it's good for white people, we'll find a silver lining in the dark cloud.
But with a minute remaining this segment, David, I would ask to pivot back to just this one question.
That was Sam Dixon's question, and that is, how can America go in and kidnap a president from another country, whether he's a belligerent or not, and try him on American soil for American laws?
So this is a big difference between the words may and can.
You can do whatever you want if you're willing to pay the consequence.
May is legality.
So this comes back to, I actually wrote an article that's very pertinent for this.
It was about the War Powers Act in relation to the, What is that LARP name, Midnight Hammer Strike on Iran, I believe?
I wrote about that where, and my take on that is that the War Powers Act is probably, for whatever it's worth, it isn't much.
It's probably illegal, but Congress has simply acquiesced it.
They have the right to declare war as something that isn't supposed to be delegated, but at the same time, we have to really get this overhead.
No law is self-executing.
Law flows from power.
Power does not flow from law.
That is a completely convoluted way of looking at the world.
It's how conservatives look at the world.
It's part of why they didn't conserve anything.
It's all about power.
Now, Kevin Deanna in his podcast, Identity Politics, is always hammering home about this.
This is power.
Power is the explanation for why things work.
And also, your solution is to gain more power so you can do what you want.
I would actually have the opinion that we should abolish rules because they're used as an excuse to be selectively tired.
I can't do that.
Oh, no.
People, when they want to break the rules, they will.
They broke the rules of going after H6.
That's a good point.
David, if he's serious about going after Maduro, why in hell's name would he bring the venue of Southern District of New York, the most liberal district, the most antitrust district, probably in America?
You know, is his brain not working?
Well, you know, there's a lot of people who are.
Well, I can answer that for a while.
There's a cheering population up there.
Yeah, that'll probably do away with it.
Go ahead, Jim.
The indictment mentioned machine guns and all this, which is simply ridiculous.
It's just extremely gay.
He's a sovereign.
He can do what he wants with machine guns.
It's like, how dare you have a cruise missile?
But what that showed is that the conservatives, and this includes Bimbo, Pam Bondi, all these people in office, Kash Patel, are amateurs.
This came out at MFEST.
These people are very amateurish compared to us.
So everyone's having a crisis of confidence right now, but the evil far right, or whatever you want to call us, has suffered it the least.
But these people are simply stupid.
Putin can't do his military operation.
These people, they're not sophisticated.
These people don't read books.
That's a problem.
The fight should read countercurrents.
We'll try to educate you so you don't wind up like these people who create dump indictments.
We'll be right back.
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We are going to get into Amfest and what David.
He watched it, so we didn't have to.
That's the tagline.
We were going to spend the whole hour on it.
And it is still important.
Some very big name people there, and they had a crowd of 30,000.
It has now supplanted CPAC as the largest sort of annual gathering of that kind.
But first, one more thing.
Tucker Carlson.
This is a tale of two commentators, Tucker Carlson versus Alex Jones on what happened this morning in Venezuela.
And by the way, I want to say again, thank you, David Zuddy, for your very unique and informed perspective tonight.
We'll have a couple of guests next week, just as pro-white, ardently pro-white, as you and I. They're going to see it a little differently.
I sort of see it in the middle.
I would have been against it.
I think I am against it.
But I don't think that this totally negates everything that Trump has done that we can like.
I thought that we spent a lot of time in December sort of doing the year in review of Trump, and I don't think that this fundamentally changes that.
But here's what Tucker said.
Maduro, whatever his faults.
And even though this is ironic because he is a communist and he is anti-white, he rails about white supremacy.
But Tucker writes that he has the most socially conservative country probably in the hemisphere.
Venezuela has banned pornography, banned abortion, banned sex changes, and banned usury.
And then here's Alex Jones.
Maduro asked for a fight, and Trump gave him a knockout.
Maduro fought with rhetoric and electronic voting machines stealing U.S. elections, and Trump just chopped his head off.
So, I mean, here is Bluster Alex Jones.
By the way, Keith, we got a question in, and spend 30 seconds answering this, but I want to get it on record.
We're talking about it now.
Listener in Beaumont, Texas, wanted our take on Jones.
And I will tell you, Alex Jones buys airtime just like we do.
He's at that tier where, you know, he's not Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity where he gets paid to do it.
He buys his airtime just like TPC.
He's on more stations than us, God knows.
But I generally have a disfavorable opinion of him.
Go quick.
Real quick.
He tries to be a macho man and he's really on our side, but he's the most cowardly guy on the Jewish question I can imagine.
And David, I mean, your take on the way he's framing this today for his audience and your general take on Alex Jones.
So my general take on Alex Jones is that he is an amateur.
He doesn't read books.
He's a shock jock.
I don't know if he's being subversive on purpose.
I think he has...
The Jew thing is very, very subversive.
I don't know if that's simply him being indoctored into that melee or if he's trying to play some type of game, but he's not very intelligent.
He is purely infotainment can be a good thing.
It can also be a bad thing.
His is a bad thing because it's not really innervating.
Also, there's a lot of dumb conspiracy.
I absolutely hate and despise a conspiracy crowd.
And that kind of came up at Amfest 2, where Ben Shapiro actually did us a huge favor.
I like to listen to my enemies because you learn a lot from them.
And Ben Shapiro basically laid out his playbook for how he's going to attack us and try to prevent criticizing Jews or pro-I politics to spread in that he's going to tar and feather it with insane conspiracy theories.
And he's also going to conflate low IQ anti-Semitism with high IQ anti-Semitism.
Now, low IQ anti-Semitism is usually a Bap Sphere Jewish Attack that doesn't have any weight, but there actually are parts that are like Candace Owens going on about them saboteur and Frankis hating on her or whatever nonsense she has.
I can't keep track of it all.
Or it was Massad in the tunnels with Colonel Muskard and a candlestick, and they got Charlie Kirk that way, and it's embarrassing.
And he's going after Tucker Carlson for being soft on some of these conspiracy theories, but I believe that there is a strategy.
My conspiracy theory is about conspiracy theories.
I think that our enemies, the Jews and liberals, encouraged conspiratorial thinking to smear things.
For example, they claimed that they were 5G nanobots in the vaccine, which did nothing except tar and feather legitimate concerns that that stupid vaccine was rushed and therefore neither safe nor effective, nor was it even necessary when it doesn't even affect a lot, it affects people differently and it doesn't really seem to affect young people.
That was simply calm.
That was like how I came to the Jew question, like count the Jews in power.
Oh, that's interesting.
I was brad kicking and screaming while educating myself in private around 2010 to the Jewish question due to a preponderance of evidence and facts and logic through intellectual rigor.
These people apparently got to the JQ through a complete abandonment of intellectual rigor and they'll believe anything.
And they either intentionally, recklessly, or this stupidly pollute the well with all this other stuff, which is unnecessary.
And we've seen this with Amfest or just conservatism in general, which was on display out there with the tackiness.
I don't think even Erica Kirk, she's just being tacky.
That's why she's getting all this heat.
She doesn't even know how tacky she is.
Just if anybody doesn't know, by the way, you can check it out.
We actually cross-posted it at thepolitical cesspool.org yesterday.
So it would be on Friday, January the 2nd.
The title of the article was just Amfest 2025.
David originally wrote it for Countercurrents.
Big breakdown of this.
So what it is, it's a Turning Point USA event called America Fest.
And it has become bigger than CPAC.
And the kind of people you had on the stage were Erica Kirk, Ben Shapiro, Steve Bannon, Nikki Minaj, who is a black female rapper who's now part of the Trump contingent, apparently, and JD Vance.
So you had some big names there.
Not necessarily our people, especially in terms of Ben Shapiro and Nikki Minaj.
But David watched it all.
Sam Bushman, the owner of the Liberty News Radio Network, was actually there.
He went and attended it.
Over 30,000 people, way bigger than CPAC, now.
And anyway, David watched it all.
So as we mentioned, you don't have to.
And he wrote about it, and he's talking about it now.
We're going to spend the entire hour on this until Venezuela happened.
But just with five minutes remaining, David, give us your key takeaways to this event.
And is there any way this tier of conservatism will ever be allied with our more muscular positions?
Ideologically, no, they will never be allied, but the individuals involved with it can be dragged over, or we can make alliances at convenience with them.
There's a huge problem here where they try, there's a huge, the big battle that exploded was a battle between basically civic nationalism, which was what the alt-right successfully railed against in its day.
And that's, are we define ourselves by passports?
Or they got really into lots of very sugary talk about vague Christian values.
And I know a lot of your listeners are Christian, but that's not how you define a country, whatever your religion is, because that's not the same thing.
And that's simply an invitation towards invasion.
Why not bring in Filipinos?
They're Catholic.
And not that I dislike, they're actually one of my favorites of all the non-whites, but they don't belong here in large numbers, if at all.
And this is a problem because their ideas are not all these contradictions.
Like, okay, well, we're going to support American workers because they're made in the image of God.
Well, I guess the foreign hordes aren't.
And all these issues.
And they're always talking about Christian values.
And this is a point that Greer made in his book, The King in Orange, which is about Trump and Trumpism, is that values-based politics are usually used to fool people and for evil purposes.
Interest-based politics are more realistic.
I want to reiterate what Francis Parker Yockey said about this, is that, paraphrasing here, is that religion is a pursuit of truth.
Politics is a pursuit of power.
When you combine the two, you will distort one or more likely both.
And that's what happens.
These people get all into Christianity and stuff.
Well, okay, we need to stop loving our enemies and maybe find out who killed Charlie Kirk.
I don't think it was the Egyptian Air Force as alleged by Candace Ellings, but I don't think the shooter acted alone.
I think there was a network of Trantifa local leftists that were supporting him or knew something or had reason to know.
Those people should be given the J6 treatment.
They should all be subpoenaed.
Their houses should be raided.
The hammer should come down.
But this terrible irony is that we on the far right, where everyone calls white nationalists, identitarians, we were more moved by the death of Charlie Kirk, more united by it.
And we took him more seriously than the clowns at Conservatism Inc. and MAGA.
It's embarrassing.
I actually yelled at Charlie.
I didn't yell, okay, I haranged him at UCLA during the original Graper War.
But I felt more bad about his death and wanted to go after his killers than these clowns on stage.
Whether they're either forgiving their enemies or they're trying to pursue the Egyptian Air Force, apparently.
I can't keep track of it.
It's too cray-cray.
It's just embarrassing.
And I do think the white pill here is that we can absolutely vanquish these people or dominate them or take them because we're the serious ones in the room.
For all the problems we have in the movement, we are somehow more serious and professional than these people.
And I believe a lot of people, though, Ben Shapiro goes for these things.
Is he deflecting our attention?
What do you think?
Well, this is my main point from the article that these people who believe in civic nationalism, the ones who truly believe it, will be taken advantage of by the ones who don't like Ben Shapiro.
Tucker, I don't know if he's playing some game, but he needs to put his cards on the table because everyone kind of either he is not very intellectually deep or he's really internally some weird ideas or he is simply playing some type of game where he is in fact way more based than he says he is or he's a CIA plant.
I don't know.
But everyone knows that there are these weird contradictions that he needs to just put the cards on the table and Ben Shapiro's calling him out on it.
We've called him out on it.
So what does that tell you when both Ben Shapiro and Nick Fuentes call him out on it?
It's like, come on, you need to just speak plainly here about what we believe in and confront intellectual problems.
Go check out this piece.
Folks, I hear the music playing.
Check out this piece and read more about David Zuddy's take on Amfest, which we were planning to spend the entire hour on.
At least we got to work it in a little bit.
You can read the rest of it for yourself at CounterCurrents.
We cross-posted it at TPC.
Speaking of Fuentes, you just mentioned his name.
He has been in favor of what happened today.
He said the Western Hemisphere belongs to us.
So I don't know what my audience's consensus on Fuentes is, but he is very much in favor of what Trump did in Venezuela.
So we'll take your side on that one, David.
And we'll get another take from Pedrick Martin and Jose Niño next week.
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A big poll there on intentional communities.
Eric Orwal of Return to the Land, I saw that a Jewish fellow by the name of Ben Wexler in Pennsylvania is planning some legislation to try to stunt the growth of these intentional communities.