Nov. 16, 2025 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is the Political Cesspool.
The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
Okay, so we had a little bit of a miscommunication here between my producer and I.
I am going to put you on here in the box.
If you can check this, we're going to grab our third hour guest now.
But while I am speaking live, I am texting this number, and I just sent it to you on the chat.
There's been a lot of hullabaloo here in the commercial break.
So Fergus Hodgson is going to be our guest, and it was unbeknownst to me until right now that I had not sent his contact information to my producer.
And so we have just sent that over, and hopefully he will be with us immediately.
Nevertheless, while we wait on him and while we wait to introduce him, I will wait to introduce him until he is on the air with us.
And let me just double check that number that I just texted and to make sure it is right, and it does look to be right.
So hopefully he's standing by.
Great first two hours.
Lou Moore on all things current and political with regards to current events and headlines.
Donald Trump, H-1B, Epstein, redistricting the government shutdown.
All good things.
That was Lou Moore in the second hour.
In the first hour, a live report from American Renaissance from five, no less than five on-the-ground correspondents.
Fantastic first two hours so far tonight, and we are going to end it in the exact same fashion.
Here now in our third hour, a first-time guest.
We look forward to introducing to you Fergus Hodgson.
He is a geopolitical publisher and financial economist.
His intelligence source is the Impunity Observer, a publication devoted to the nexus of Anglo and Latin America.
And his financial consultancy is Econ Americas, devoted to alternative investments and jurisdictional arbitrage.
He's the author of two books, Financial Sovereignty for Canadians and the Latin American Red Pill.
His articles have appeared in major outlets such as Fox News, the New Zealand Herald, and a publication in Honduras that I will not even attempt to pronounce.
He has an MBA in finance from Rice University.
That's, of course, in Texas, and a BA in economics from Boston University in Massachusetts.
He is a licensed financial advisor.
He is a New Zealand native, which is very unique to us tonight.
And he came to the United States on an athletic scholarship and now resides in Colorado.
He has lived more than a year in both Argentina and Guatemala.
He has visited 19 of the 20 Latin American countries.
And with that foundational stage having been set, Fergus, welcome to the show for the first time.
It's great to make your acquaintance.
So pleased to meet you, James.
It's a great privilege to appear with you.
Well, the pleasure is all mine.
We had the opportunity to exchange a couple of messages over the last, well, I guess, month or two now.
And the more I learned about you, the more intrigued I became with you.
And I am looking forward to this hour as we begin to dive into the meat of the matter and the issues at hand.
But before we do that, please share with us, since this is your introductory appearance on the program, a little bit more about your background and how you came to these views and just anything else of interest that the audience might like to hear about you.
Yeah, sure.
I think the audience would be curious to know that I grew up in a very rural or isolated part of New Zealand.
So a little island of the British Isles in many regards, right?
Because my ancestors came, I mean, I've got Irish on my mother's side, but my British ancestors on my father's side came to New Zealand in the, I guess, around the time of the Industrial Revolution at the peak of the British Empire.
And so I really enjoyed that high trust society that many of the listeners would yearn for.
And in many ways, I didn't understand that the rest of the world did not enjoy such things.
And so coming to the United States as an athlete opened my eyes to many things.
And in particular, I know people have different views on this on your show, but just the broader dialogue or culture of free speech and open debate in the United States really perked or piqued my curiosity.
However, in terms of how I came to my views about Latin America, if we want to zero in on the topic for this evening, I was a little bit frustrated with, like many people are in the United States, but to be frank, we think the country is falling apart.
And so I was a bit frustrated also with what I deemed to be an anti-male or anti-tradition culture.
And so I thought when I was a young man that I would go to Latin America and make a home for myself and explore options there.
Now, that is fascinating that, well, I am fascinated by all of this, how you came to our positions on the issues, how you came to know this particular radio program, in fact.
And we'll get to that.
But the fact that, you know, we do this thing here.
We've done it for the last several years now.
It's one of my highlights on the annual broadcasting calendar.
I love our March Around the World series where we interview exclusively people from native ports of calls throughout the Western world, throughout Europe, of course, Canada, Australia.
We have not had a representative from New Zealand yet, so stay tuned for that.
But I enjoy hearing about how our people are faring in the different nations that make up our civilization.
And so how does someone from New Zealand become so well versed in the issues?
And, well, I mean, you've been to 19 of the 20 Latin American countries.
You've lived in two of them for a year apiece.
How does that happen?
Oh, gosh, mate.
I mean, I'll be glad to speak about New Zealand if you'd like to.
And it's a pity New Zealand did not make it into that round-the-world series because New Zealand is going to find a suitable person, but it's a small country now with about 5 million.
But just briefly about the situation in New Zealand, it is a really terrible situation in terms of thinking about, let's say, the Britishness or our European culture.
New Zealand has one of the highest rates of immigration in the world.
30% of the people in New Zealand were not born there.
So if you think the United States is a problem, we have more than double, well, I think about 15%.
So basically double what the U.S. level of immigration is.
We have basically a dual ethnic identity in New Zealand, British and native or Indigenous Māori.
And many people are mixed, of course.
But that sense of identity has just collapsed in my lifetime, right?
So if you were to go to New Zealand now and ask people, they would be very confused as to what New Zealand is or stands for.
And so my best friend is still back there.
He's Indigenous.
And we discuss it all the time how he walks around and he bumps into a New Zealander every now and again.
So, no.
I mean, I mean, you know, that great film.
Yeah.
You know, well, I say the series of films, the Lord of the Rings trilogy, which, I mean, you know, I don't want to be hokey.
I don't want to be, you know, juvenile.
But, I mean, there's a lot of things you could take from that and apply it to our present situation.
No doubt about it.
Those are good movies.
I mean, Tolkien is absolutely inspirational to men of the West.
And, I mean, you watch that, the parallels are absolutely just there to be drawn.
And that was filmed, I believe, parts of that were filmed in New Zealand.
And so, you know, I would ask you, no, I am so fascinated in this because we've never had a representative, even in all these years, in our March Around the World series from New Zealand.
We've had people from Australia, but New Zealand, anything there to write home about with regards to our identity or issues that pertain to the furtherance of the civilization that gave so much light to all of humanity.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So we have, it's different from Australia because Australia has a much lower Aboriginal population as a percentage of the population.
So New Zealand, about 15, 20% of the population would identify as Indigenous or Māori.
That's a big part of the New Zealand identity, and you cannot get away from that, right?
Whereas Australia, it would be, like I said, maybe a couple of percent or a much, much lower percent of the population.
Now, in terms of what's going on right now, let me think of the most important elements right now.
The big challenge is that we're a victim of our own success to some degree, that New Zealand became such an attractive place to live in the area.
So we've attracted migrants from all across the Pacific, China, I mean, everywhere now.
And so the urban centers are just almost unrecognizable.
If you go to the rural areas, I mean, where I'm from, you still feel a taste of what New Zealand was, let's say, in the 1980s, early 1990s.
But it really has changed a great deal.
Like I said, in my lifetime, I was born in 1983.
And there was also a major point of history that set New Zealand apart from her heritage was when the United Kingdom decided to go with the European Union and basically sever ties, trade ties with the colonies.
And that caused major upheaval in New Zealand, a restructuring of the economy and a pivot away from our natural allies towards new trading partners.
And we've never been the same since.
That was back in the 1970s.
Interesting, interesting.
And how long did you live there before you moved?
Yeah, I was 19 when I left, and then I went back to live a few years after college.
All right, so you definitely had a long enough maturation there and a marination there to get a good feel for the scene.
Yeah, James, if I may say so, I grew up near a small town, which is the capital or home of the Indigenous people.
So I had much more of a direct or first-hand experience with, you might say, the more historic culture of New Zealand than if you were to go now to the cities, you would never even realize that or get a taste for that.
Well, you know, it's just such an outpost of Western civilization, the oceanic, you know, continents, you know, or rather nations of Australia and New Zealand.
But it's a part of our people, and it is a very interesting part of our people.
And I know that is not the reason, Fergus, that we brought you on tonight.
And we will get to the other issues and we will get to them now.
But I am fascinated by this, and we'll bring you on again later to talk more about it.
But Looking at just the evolution of Australia, New Zealand, vis-a-vis the West and England and all of that.
Your takeaways before we move on to other issues.
One of the points I think that is important is that unfortunately, the vast majority of what we call Pākehā or white British New Zealanders do not have a citizenship or path back to the British Isles.
It has been too many generations now.
And even though we have, we're almost more British than the British, right, because we play cricket and rugby and we eat baked beans and trumpets and fish and chips and everything.
I didn't even realize we cabbre chocolate.
We have all these things.
People watch Coronation Street.
We have all these British elements.
I'm fortunate that my grandparents were both born and raised in Ireland.
So I have a passport that can go and be a part of the UK through an arrangement.
But most New Zealanders don't have an easy path back.
And my understanding is that New Zealand will be the first country of the chief British colonies before Canada, before Australia, to lose that British majority.
And it may have already lost it right now.
It'd be pretty close.
So tragic.
I mean, well, again, that's not what we brought you on to talk about tonight, but I couldn't bring you on and not talk about it a little.
And we will follow up with you about this more in the future.
I hope that this is, as I say to all of our guests, and I do mean it, this is the first of more conversations to come, but we'll put a pin on that for now and move on to some other things.
But I just, I have to ask, it was, I believe, after my, I can't say reinstation to Twitter because I was never reinstated, but I created a new account.
You and I became acquainted.
What was it about, you had bylines with Fox and all of these other things.
We mentioned your bio earlier.
What was it about this program that facilitated our introduction?
I really don't know, James.
It's been so long.
Forgive me, but many years ago, I stumbled across it.
And I don't know whether it was following other people who are concerned about the, let's say, the British or European diaspora.
But so it's been a while, mate.
So I can't answer that one.
No, I get it.
I mean, it's been a while for me, too, 21 years.
I don't even know half the places we've been to.
So I appreciate that.
But when you saw the name, you reached out and here we are tonight.
And so with that having been said, let's move on now to this experience you have in Latin America.
Again, fascinating that a man from all the way on the other side of the globe and in the southern hemisphere would become so well acquainted with Latin America here on this side of the world, still in the southern hemisphere, but a world apart from Northern Europe and even North America, where most of our people can trace their lineage.
Let's talk about that.
How did you land there and become so well familiar with so many of the Latin American countries?
Yeah, so it was an accident, to be frank.
I mean, initially, I was just looking for a new home or a place to explore.
I'd been an athlete, competitive athlete for 10 years and had been basically not changed, but devoted to the river training as a rower.
And so I wanted to explore and I thought that I could find maybe, let's say, more affordable place to live.
It's all these, let's say, arguments or, you know, benefits proposed of moving to Latin America, that it would be a lower cost of living, that you'd have a bit more freedom, that there'd be more of a conservative culture.
And there's a kernel of truth to these things.
Okay.
And so I initially planned to go to Chile, which is one of the most developed or stable countries in the region.
And I went by bus all the way from Colombia to Chile.
And then what happened is that you won't be surprised by this, James, but once I'd done that trip and came back to the United States, because there just wasn't good work available for me, and I got work back in the United States.
As we all know, Spanish has become such a prominent part of U.S. culture now that I basically was given jobs or hired because of my Spanish proficiency and understanding of Latin America.
All of that is absolutely fascinating to me, and we will get to more of that in time.
But let's now dive into the issues that we have outlined.
And I appreciate you emailing me a few talking points here because I wanted to be sure to play to the crowd, so to speak.
But the dysfunction of Latin American nations.
Now, Jose Niño is a friend of ours.
He's from Venezuela.
This is entirely his bailiwick.
But Venezuela presents a profound challenge for paleoconservatives, as you write.
And while we favor non-interventionism and have little interest in the building of an empire, we see that these nations' problems are turning up in the United States, especially in the form of organized crime, illegal immigration, and values contrary to those of Middle America.
We need to consider a Monroe Doctrine 2.0.
What do you mean by that, Fergus?
Yeah, well, people who know U.S. history will understand that there was a doctrine in the early 19th century to keep out foreign hostile powers and at that time European powers.
Now, I have no interest in sending off U.S. officials who will just create more problems in Latin America.
However, at the same time, we have to recognize that we have a real challenge on our hands, that we have an enormous, almost like parallel government, a form of war going on against the United States, where all U.S. enemies have basically coalesced around Venezuela and Cuba, and they are having a negative impact.
So a 2.0 would mean that the U.S. would collaborate with favorable or friendly nations and basically just seek to keep hostile powers out of the region.
And so it would be a very light touch leadership to say that the U.S., and I know you're pro-secession, I am too, to be frank, but let's just say U.S. leadership in the region, that we will have the basic values of private property, free enterprise.
I know people have differing views on this on the show, but this will be a place that with U.S. leadership, because at present, incompetence from Washington, D.C., or maybe just ignoring the issues is coming back to haunt the United States.
And we see that ignoring Venezuela for, I mean, ignoring Cuba for more than 60 years and now ignoring Venezuela for basically 25 years is really creating problems here.
And at some point, you have to say that, again, we don't want to build an empire.
I have no interest in that.
But at the same time, we have to say that there really are hostile forces who are operating outside the United States and are entering and causing problems here.
And it's a very tricky or difficult issue.
I don't want all sorts of terrorist organizations basically setting up shop just across the border.
And it's not just across the border, but you understand.
Yeah, Fergus, this is Keith Alexander.
I think the American people are like Greta Garbo.
They asked her what she wanted and she said she wanted to be left alone.
That's what the American people want.
That's what we wanted.
The American people weren't If they'd had a plebiscite, they would not have voted to enter World War I or World War II.
There are certain powers in the world that just cannot abide our wealth and manpower going to waste.
They want to put them to work to their agenda.
Now, you know, we can either, what this points out, the fact that we have these dysfunctional nations in our own hemisphere that are causing us problems, and they're not really even, you know, adjacent to us in terms of land mass.
The reason we have it is because of lax enforcement of our immigration laws.
Now, you know, I guess our choices are either to start enforcing those things with a vengeance.
And I think I'm totally all right with Trump bombing these cigarette boats and whatnot, coming in with drugs.
Unfortunately, that's not going to work on the Rio Grande with stuff coming from Mexico.
But Venezuela is a festering sore on, you know, America, and so is Cuba.
And I think that basically we need to do whatever it takes to stop the flow of illegal drugs at the very least from America, because that's why that's wiping out so many Americans.
We're going to get into this war on drugs, so-called, in the next segment with Fergus.
But Fergus, you know, to your point, Keith.
Take it away, Fergus.
I just missed the connection there for a second, but Keith, I agree with you.
U.S. voters are very disinterested in getting involved with other countries.
That is true.
Venezuela has had easily 8 million people, more than 20% of its population have left the country.
It's extremely difficult to contain that.
You can watch, there's a movie called La Bestia about the train of death that all these immigrants, a lot of them go across, get through Mexico to the United States.
They are incredibly determined, right?
You would have to set up a military.
I mean, you would have to be incredibly determined to turn that many people around.
I mean, I'm just saying.
That's what we need.
We have a crisis of will.
Yeah, so I understand that logic.
And, I mean, really, more of them should go to Latin American countries and they have.
Something like almost 2 million are now living in Colombia, for example.
It is out of control.
And so that's why the big tragedy is that they don't fix it themselves.
The Colombians, the Brazilians, the Panamanians don't address their neighbor themselves.
The challenge too is that there's a power vacuum.
That when the U.S. is not involved, there really are other people around the world who want to attack the U.S. way of life.
They feel threatened by it.
They don't like it.
And they will.
Well, they like it and they hate it.
Why would you accept a Trabant when you can buy and you can ride in a Cadillac?
They don't want to go into Panama or they don't want to go into Peru.
They want to come to America.
If they're going to have to move, they're going to go for the gusto.
So basically, we've got to understand that these people do not mean us well.
They are not interested in assimilating.
None of them have been.
They basically just want to recreate their own society under more prosperous circumstances.
And to hell with that.
Kick them in the ass and send them home.
Well, look, you said a lot there, Keith, and I share your concern.
One of the chapters in my book addresses why the Republican Party fails and maybe always will fail to appeal to Hispanics.
And there was a myth that Trump won a majority of Hispanics that turned out to be false, that even at the peak of his powers with a terrible opponent, Trump could not get a majority of Hispanic voters in the United States.
We'll get the Martian vote before we get the Hispanic vote or the black vote.
Well, Fergus, what you're talking about is very interesting because that was something that was widely discussed at the end of the post-mortems of the last election.
Yeah, it was just really some initial, I guess, what is it, exit polling had suggested Hispanics won.
But I always ask people who think that Hispanics are natural conservatives.
I say, well, let's go to the most Hispanic parts of the country.
Let's go to New Mexico.
Let's go to Miami.
Let's go to Puerto Rico.
Do they vote Republican?
Get out of here.
That's a mic.
Once again, a mic drop moment from one of our guests tonight, Fergus Hudson.
And we will be back with him next, and we're going to let him give you a little bit more of information about who he is and what he does as we continue on with the issues.
Stay tuned, everybody.
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U.S. House Speaker Mike Johnson says that he shares the relief of millions of Americans now, that the 43-day federal government shutdown has come to an end.
But during an appearance on the Salem News program this week on Capitol Hill with Tony Perkins, the Louisiana Republicans suggested that Democrats overplayed their hand in the standoff.
Johnson argued that by allowing the shutdown to continue as long as it did, Democrats bid off more than they could chew.
Some of them regretted it.
Some of them are in tough swing districts for their upcoming re-elects and they didn't want to be a part of forcing any more pain on the American people because this was real.
I mean, it was really felt by a lot of people.
As you know, you had millions of American families that went hungry over these 43 days, the longest shutdown in history.
As you noted, you had people stranded in airports because of canceled flights.
You had troops wondering where their next paycheck would come from.
And enough Democrats woke up and said, man, I don't think I want to be associated with that anymore.
So we got it done and I'm glad it's finally over.
There's a change in U.S. flight plans.
Even though the government shutdown is over, the FAA says the current mandatory 6% flight cuts are being downgraded to 3%.
Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy has repeatedly said restrictions will remain until staffing at air traffic control facilities stabilizes and safety metrics improve.
How long it will take for the aviation system to stabilize is unclear.
Duffy has said controllers and other FAA employees should receive 70% of their back pay soon with the rest to come.
Ed Donahue, Washington.
Republican strategist Aaron McGuire says the GOP is better at helping America's youth than Democrats.
If you look at the Mamdani vote, obviously New York City is not a massive microcosm or a great lens for the country, but you saw 81% of young females vote for Mamdani.
I do think that young men are gradually moving toward more conservatism.
McGuire spoke with the Salem Radio Network.
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Well, always with the first-time guests, we want to be sure to roll out the red carpet and give them every convenience to bestow upon you exactly who he is and what he does.
So again, our guest tonight is Fergus Hodson.
And we gave his bio a little bit earlier this hour.
But let's talk a little bit about Econ Americas.
You are the director of this organization.
Tell us a little bit about that, and then we'll go right back to the issues.
Sure.
I'm building a financial consultancy devoted to finding financial freedom.
It's more of a libertarian or anarcho-capitalist venture, to be frank.
And I have focused on where I see other providers do not give, let's say, the more precise or the support that people of our thinking would be looking for.
So whether it's real estate or cryptocurrencies or precious metals and mining, whether it's how to structure your assets or expatriation or not necessarily moving out of the country, but moving between jurisdictions, I've sought to provide that support.
And it grew out of my first book, Financial Sovereignty for Canadians, where a lot of Canadians didn't know what to do after the trucker convoy.
And I believed at the time that my own life experience could address that.
Yeah.
And a lot of them want to come to the United States.
So that's been my chief clientele thus far.
Well, that's wonderful, Fergus, because I can remember that time and interviewing Paul Fromm on at least consecutive weeks talking about that trucker's strike.
And that was a wonderful event.
It was a privilege to cover.
And, you know, that was a moment in time.
Yeah, the best people, the best Canadians came out for that, but they had zero political representation.
So that's the fundamental problem.
You've got 20, 25% of the population who are the real workers, the heartland of the country, and basically zero people in Ottawa who care about them.
What a wonderful guy we have tonight.
Fergus Hodgson, born in New Zealand, he's got South America, the Latin America nations clocked, also Canada as well.
We have Paul Fromm and Remy Tremblay up there.
And this guy triangulates.
That's what you do, Fergus.
So let's talk about an issue that Keith raised in the previous segment.
We're going to skip.
I've instructed our producer to skip all the floater breaks this hour so we can maximize our time with you.
So we're not going to take another break until the end of the program tonight.
Let's talk about the so-called war on drugs.
I remember this Michael Douglas movie a few years ago, Benicio del Toro, others.
A-list cast all the way.
Traffic.
If you follow movies out of Hollywood, traffic.
Michael Douglas, the war on drugs.
Placing the responsibility on Washington, D.C. to fight drugs has been a fool's errand, you tell me.
Break that down for me.
Well, because there's no incentive for them to fix the problem.
Let's say there are no drugs tomorrow.
They'll just have to close up shop.
They have a perverse incentive to escalate.
And what has happened is that as they have attacked some members, the cartels have just become more aggressive and sophisticated.
And right now we have the most sophisticated, violent, brutal, powerful cartel in the history of the planet centering in Venezuela and with networks throughout the hemisphere and into Europe.
And they have built up connections with all sorts of terrorist organizations, with governments.
I mean, it's just this enormous monstrosity.
And that has just empowered the Defense Department to call itself the War Department and go to war with the drug cartel.
Basically, it's rewarding them.
They've got more projects to feel powerful about.
And the truth is that how much have they actually stopped?
You and I know that the supply of hard drugs is readily available throughout the United States and Canada.
And there was actually a report I quoted in this book about how the, I think it's the Toronto Police Department said that the quality and availability is better than ever.
So if it's getting up to Canada, I think it's going, you know, it's getting to the United States as well.
And so it's a failure.
But you know that, I mean, I'm not such an expert on this particular topic, but there are counties and towns in the United States that are dry.
And they're largely enforced because the local people agree with that.
And this harkens back to a different approach to addressing problems like this, right?
So when I was a child growing up in New Zealand, if I went to the liquor store to pick up the beer for my father, the liquor store owner would have just known me and given it to me, even if I was only eight years old or 10 years old.
Because there was a level of trust and understanding as to how to handle these things.
And I just think we have been fooled into this game where we think the federal government cares about what is bad or good for U.S. citizens.
Right now, I buy raw milk.
Proud of it, but I have to be part of some kind of stupid cow share, and you can't transport across lines, state lines, right?
And so, this organization in the federal government that are supposedly attacking engaged in a drug war, they are just creating extremely powerful and brutal cartels, and they're not actually cracking down on the demand.
So, so long as there's a huge demand for this, these cartels will just find sophisticated ways around government officials, no doubt about it.
And I just think it's a foolish approach.
Now, if we really care about, and look, I don't consume alcohol, I don't consume any drugs.
If we really care about it, we've got to find a cultural change away from these things and deal with the actual demand.
And so, like I said, I would rather this go back to the state and local level.
And it's not a power granted to the federal government in the Constitution anyway.
So, we could just say the entire thing is unconstitutional from the get-go.
Well, let me give you the ground-level approach here in Memphis.
Okay, Memphis is a majority black city, the only majority black city in the state of Tennessee.
We are the blue tumor on a red state, okay?
Now, Trump has sent in the National Guard to Memphis to assist the police department and basically make them watch their P's and Q's and enforce drugs.
The problem in a black place like Memphis is that the black leadership doesn't like, they want you to end crime, but they don't want you to imprison black people, which is difficult to do.
And blacks are responsible for well over 80% of the violent crime wherever they are.
So, what is happening in Memphis with the National Guard being here is they're arresting all these people.
And what do they charge them with?
Because if they charge them with ordinary crimes, well, then their judges and prosecutors that they have, the current regime in Memphis has appointed will let them out.
But there's an escape route from that.
Most what drives the crime in Memphis is drugs.
Drug offenses tend to be federal offenses.
So, consequently, you can bypass the corrupt local and state judicial system here in Memphis and send them to the feds.
And the feds are kicking ass and taking names.
Okay.
So, we are getting some things there.
We're filling up the jails with these people.
And that will work.
But, see, like everything else in a place, see, you're talking about in the bucolic days of your childhood going down and picking up beer for your father.
That's because you have a basically racially homogeneous society in New Zealand, and you did, at least until recently, in Australia.
And things work.
They worked here when we had segregation.
But when segregation went by the boards, for example, public education went in the toilet, things like that.
Criminal laws were not being enforced.
And we need to understand that these problems exist because of race being a problem in the United States.
All the places that have large criminal activity also tend to have large black populations.
So that's how there's a solution to it, but it involves people waking up and smelling the coffee rather than listening to platitudes.
Yeah, I don't want to get too stuck in that issue, Keith, because, I mean, that's bread and butter for this show.
And I did live a year in New Orleans when I first got back from Latin America.
I know.
Yeah, I'm familiar with the problem.
But it just is the case that in Central America, I mean, almost all Latin American countries, to be frank, drug dealers or drug traffickers and producers are incredibly powerful and wealthy.
And they almost like the background.
Yeah, well, I'm just saying.
So right now, if you go to Honduras, the country I know well, the two probably chief economic activities are remittances from the United States.
So exported labor and drug trafficking.
Right.
You know, and then I've got what is done in El Salvador about talking about kicking ass and taking names.
I actually did want to ask you about that, Fergus.
Is El Salvador, because a very good friend of ours who just so happens to be a regular guest on this program is in El Salvador this week speaking at a conference down there.
What is the situation?
Because you have such a good proficiency of knowledge on the landscape of South El Salvador.
It shows that it's basically a lack of willpower.
Or wouldn't you have the will to do something about it you can do El Salvador?
Your take.
Okay, well, I want to push back a little bit with Keith there that I don't think you can just appoint dictators and they can fix the problems in Latin American countries.
I think it's much deeper than that.
And you guys would say and agree with me that there are genetic differences, right?
Just racial differences, that people have more of a proclivity towards violence or involved.
He seems to be doing a great job of overcoming those shortcomings in El Salvador.
Let me address the El Salvador.
Okay, so first, Bukhali is an unconstitutional president.
Okay.
Until recently, it was not.
I beg your pardon?
I said, who Ray?
Basically, he's what El Salvador needs to restore order.
There's, you know.
Okay.
It's like Luce Leane.
They said at least he made the trains run on time.
Okay.
And, you know, you have to reach a certain level of civilization before you're ready for Democratic Republican government.
I think it's not a one-size-fits-all solution for government.
Yeah, I mean, this is the problem that eventually you have to save yourself from the savior.
And it was three times in the Salvadoran Constitution that there should be no re-election.
Bukeley literally left office one day before the end of his term and then claimed he could run for re-election.
Okay.
Then once he had consolidated power in his second term, he changed the constitution to allow indefinite re-election, I think.
But so I caution people about jumping on their bandwagon.
The problem is that, and there's all sorts of intimidation.
I mean, recently he declared that all the bus companies had to provide free fares for, I think, a period of time when there was some construction going on and the bus companies didn't like that.
He is an interventionist, and I am very reluctant to believe the data coming out of El Salvador, to be frank.
There have been mass graves found there.
Further, he's had to go into agreements with organized crime.
It's a precarious situation.
I have a daughter-in-law who is from El Salvador, and she goes back to visit her family, and they are totally on board.
He said that vastly over 80% of the population down there is totally on Bukay or whatever, however you name it.
That's anecdotal, but I mean, it is.
But it's a true, you know, look, you know, we can all hypothesize about what people are thinking overseas, but it's nice to get somebody behind enemy lines.
I really, you know, can tell you what's going on.
We have 10 minutes left with Fergus.
I want to get into the other two issues that he wanted to address tonight.
But I mean, is it safe in El Salvador?
With regards to this side of the globe, I have heard that it is safe down there.
Yeah, so I've traveled everywhere except Bolivia in Latin America, and I've not never been assaulted or not robbed, as far as I know.
I travel there all the time.
I would go to El Salvador without thinking about it.
I wouldn't worry about the safety.
The truth is, you'd be less safe going to New Orleans or probably to Memphis, to be frank.
So I, yeah, so I don't.
I can testify to that.
Yeah, so I will admit, though, that there is petty crime, right?
So you do have to use your common sense.
So you wouldn't want to carry all your cash in your wallet or you don't want to keep things back in your hotel or whatever it may be.
You would try to avoid less safe areas.
When I went to Venezuela, I saw a robbery right in front of me, and people there basically just don't get involved, unfortunately, even though it was a crowded area.
They just let the robbery proceed.
Well, look, what happens in a place like that is like what happens in Memphis.
We tell people to be careful.
If you see a quarter on the street, don't bend over to pick it up or else you'll wake up the next morning with rosy cheeks, a wet ass, and a quarter rolled up in your face.
All right, all right, all right, all right.
Well, I mean, so here's the thing.
I've heard good things about El Salvador under the current administration.
So is Keith.
You know, maybe we all have.
Thank you for giving us your opinion on that because yours is an informed opinion.
Last I checked, neither Keith or I have been down there, but nevertheless, it was something that should have been brought up tonight, and now it has.
But the thing is, just if we can answer that quickly, I think he's done many good things, right?
He really has promoted, he's trying to recruit an elite immigrant population to El Salvador to rebuild the country.
I mean, there are many good things he's done.
So I just want to give people context to understand the situation there.
That's all.
No, no, very fair.
I mean, you know, we want to be fair.
We don't want to be over the top.
We don't want to be overrun, and we don't want to be victimized by crime, and we want to be right above all.
Sure.
And so you have an information about this that supersedes our own and an intellect about this.
And so we're ref in you about it.
But now, we are down to the last 10 minutes already.
If you can believe it, another fast hour here on TPC, and that often happens when we have great guests.
And Fergus, thank you for being on with us tonight.
But you're right that we need shrewd tactics to counter Latin American immigration and promote repatriation.
Our friends over in Europe now call it remigration, but it's the same thing, repatriation, remigration.
What do you mean by that?
Yeah, so people need to understand just how, let's say, tragic Latin America is.
Okay.
I wrote the Latin America Red Pill to try to give the politically incorrect truth about the region.
Latin America is about 85% less productive than Anglo-America, right?
It is a huge difference.
They probably have easily five, ten times the level of crime.
I mean, the corruption, the institutions.
So this is a serious issue that we cannot ignore.
If Latin America continues to basically take over the United States, but with birth rates and immigration, the U.S. will be a different country fundamentally.
And it's already happening or has happened to a great degree already.
If you go to live in, let's say, Arizona, Texas, or what have you, right?
So South Florida.
And this, so I'm just saying that we need to be honest about the challenges of Latin American society.
They need to be honest with themselves, to be frank.
And one of the tragedies for them is that often the most ambitious people leave.
So we may see it as a loss of the United States, but it's also a loss for them that the aristocrats or oligarchs will leave.
They will set up shop in Florida or in Texas.
And so it's a loss on both sides.
Okay.
Well, quite frankly, Fergus, I don't give two hoots in hell about what is happening down there until we stop the bleed over here.
You know, we're not in a position to be charitable because they're ruining our society along with their own.
Well, that's the whole point of my presence, though, Keith, that you can ignore it, but apparently it's already turned up, right?
So the problems are already here.
Ignoring it, I'm ready to start kicking ass.
Okay, okay.
So the, and just a little bit of comment on Latin American society.
There's just, it really is a failure of a region.
There was a great Venezuelan author, he said that the ocean could rise up and cover Latin America and basically the rest of the world wouldn't even notice.
And Latin Americans are aware of this.
They realize that their development is there.
There's a chip on their shoulder, an inferiority complex, unfortunately.
And they bring that with them to the United States.
So naturally, because of that inferiority complex, they band together.
They form racial groups.
It's natural and normal for people to do that, okay?
It's called birds and feather fly together.
Segregation is normal, okay?
And it's gaslighting to make somebody feel guilty about their segregationist instincts.
They need to go back to their own homelands and practice segregation until the cows come on.
Well, there are fascinating nations that make up South America or Latin America, whatever you want to call it.
Argentina, a very interesting place.
And with minutes remaining, I will tell you this, Fergus, be waiting for your next invitation to reappear.
By no later will you reappear, if I have my way, in March when we have our mark around the world.
So much more I want to talk about.
I can be back in New Zealand for that.
Yeah, go touch down.
But with 20 years of experience living there, you definitely have earned your stripes.
I am fascinated to hear by how the other nations are faring.
It's a big part of our program.
But you write in closing with just about five minutes remaining here.
Fast hour.
We've skipped the breaks, and I don't think we've still bought enough time with you.
We could have extended this far beyond an hour.
But you write that we need not cower being called nativist and, as you put it comically, other honorary titles.
What do you mean by that?
Yeah.
Well, because a lot of people are afraid that they'll be accused of the R-word, for example.
And I just say it's ridiculous.
The fact is that Latin American nations are very parochial.
If you want to immigrate to Mexico, you have an expedited process if you come from another Hispanic country that only natural-born citizens are eligible for political office for the heads of police in many positions in public life.
They openly are this way.
And so if you show them weakness, they're not going to respond and go, oh, great.
They're not going to treat you nicer.
I actually think they'll respect a much stronger hand.
Well, it's funny.
It's the old saying, letting Rome do as the Romans do.
If that's the way they want to do down there, we're going to do it to them up here.
But we're going to do it more effectively.
One of the examples I gave James was that I'm not even making this up, right?
Honduras, which has something like a million people in the United States, when Venezuelans go there, the Hondurans start complaining, right?
Get them out of here.
That's funny.
Well, that's the way it is.
Birds with a feather flock together, and they can tell the difference between when another bird, a cowbird, gets in the nest.
Yeah, it's so, I just found it just so comical.
I just thought that you don't see that it's just human nature.
Like you say, that people, we want to see the good in our own people, and we're more critical of outsiders.
And yeah, like you said, I don't want Americans to cower before the challenges of Latin American society.
And I think the truth is that there's a strong portion of the Hispanic community, maybe 30%, 25%, who are absolutely on board with this.
They would agree with everything I've said tonight.
But then there are groups of foreigners, and I've seen them here in Memphis, that basically want nothing to do with Americans.
They live in their own walled communities, the prosperous ones.
They party with each other.
They don't come when you invite them to a party.
This is what, you know, you need to understand these people aren't immigrants.
They're users.
They're conquerors.
They're conquistadors.
That's really what they want to do.
I mean, that's a more complicated question, you know, statement, Keith, because there are many games that are not.
They ain't that complicated to me.
I tell you what.
Well, because many of them know that.
The name Hodgson, my last name, the country that has the most Hodgsons per capita is actually Nicaragua.
So British people have gone to many different places and they may even consider themselves Latin Americans at this point.
Well, I tell you, and everywhere they've gone, they've benefited from it.
And those who have gone and driven out the English have gone to hell in a handbasket.
All right.
Well, that having been said, gentlemen, gentlemen, that having been said, Fergus, I will say this.
It has been a wonderful hour with you.
I would give you the opportunity these last few seconds, and I will extend a follow-up conversation to you here in the not-too-distant future.
I have really enjoyed this hour with you and getting to know you a little bit better.
Thank you for your informed commentary and for your intellect.
Please give us your contact information and where people can learn more about your work and any ports of calls on the internet that they should visit.
Yeah, my final remarks, just James, I respect the work you do.
I appreciate the opportunity to speak with your audience.
Please, this is an ongoing discussion, of course.
As you said, we can't get it all in this hour.
If you want to follow me on X, it's at Ferg Hodgson.
Or if you're particularly interested in Latin America, it's at ObserveImpunity on X.
So X is our most active platform.
There's a ton of content.
People can reach out to me directly, DM me on X, and I'll respond.
I'll be glad to engage.
So have a great night, gentlemen.
Yep.
Oh, no, indeed.
And you as well, my friend.
And thank you again so much for your time.
And I would love to talk to you again soon.
And folks, he mentioned X, formerly known as Twitter.
You follow me on X, and I just got back a few weeks ago.
We're just still re-establishing it.
I don't tweet there much, and therefore our following is a fraction of what it used to be.
But if you do follow us there, we have retweeted or re-axed a couple of the things from Fergus.
And so there you can follow him as well.
Keith, you just got a message from a local listener, Justin.
He wanted to let you know on this is winning in the fourth quarter, 27 to 23.
Well, I tell you what, that's good.
The Age of Miracles is not ending.
He's got his old miss hat on for everybody.
Lou Moore, Rob Paul's old campaign manager, Fergus, Hodgson, all the people who called in from Andrew.