(Part One) Did this week change America forever? We discuss the horrific murders of Charlie Kirk and Iryna Zarutska, their implications, and where we go from here. Appearing this hour: Former U.S. Congressman Steve King, Former U.S. Congressman Steve Stockman, and Paul Kersey.
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| You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is the political cesspool. | |
| The political cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program. | |
| And here to guide you through the murky waters of the political cesspool is your host, James Edwards. | |
| Did this week change America forever? | |
| We are going to be asking that question to an incredible panel of guests this evening during a comprehensive three-hour discussion about the horrific murders of Charlie Kirk and Irina Zarutska, their implications, and where we go from here. | |
| Both of these murders could prove to be pivot points, not just in a current news cycle, but in the history of America itself. | |
| So we will interweave them throughout the evening. | |
| And that conversation will begin right now with our good friend, Paul Kersey, a prolific author with consistently great takes on all the issues. | |
| That's why he's first at bat tonight. | |
| Paul, always good to talk to you. | |
| As we were saying just a moment ago, we wish it was under better circumstances tonight, but this situation has been thrust upon us. | |
| How are you? | |
| James, you know, it's great. | |
| Personally, I'm great, but I've been just really thinking, you know, praying and contemplating what really has changed since last week when the Irina Zarutska de Carlos Brown video went public because, you know, that happened back in August, the 24th, the murder of Irina Zarutska. | |
| And there's a correlation to Charlie Kirk's assassination by what appears to be a radicalized left-wing transsexual. | |
| Charlie Kirk's last tweet before he was murdered on September 10th was, he said this. | |
| If we want things to change, it's 100% necessary to politicize the senseless murder of Irina Zarutska because it was politics that allowed a savage monster with 14 priors to be free on the streets to kill her. | |
| It's eerie to think, James, that that was Charlie Kirk's last tweet. | |
| I noticed that, Paul, and it is. | |
| And I intend, and I know you do as well and so many others, to honor his wishes in doing exactly that because there is a reason for doing that, not for scoring political points, but to save lives. | |
| It will save lives to talk about this. | |
| And let's talk about it. | |
| So this murder of Irina Zarutska, I would love your take on this. | |
| So this, of course, everybody's seen the video now. | |
| It is interesting. | |
| As you mentioned, it did happen in August, but it was only this last week, since last Saturday, that the video came to light. | |
| And we have Elon Musk and X to thank for that. | |
| But this murder at the hands of a feral black thug may have changed everything. | |
| I mean, the true legacy of the so-called civil rights movement has been laid bare in a reckoning I believe is coming. | |
| I do believe that change is coming to America and that we will live to see it. | |
| I always thought that it would come, but I wasn't sure about the last part. | |
| But, you know, Paul, like you and Keith and everybody that's going to be on tonight, I've been engaged in this struggle my entire adult life and I've never been more certain that the dam is going to break. | |
| First of all, do you agree with that? | |
| Because I believe you've written about this about phase from where we were on this date in 2020, September of 2020, to where we are now. | |
| And it's absolutely unbelievable. | |
| Colin Flaherty, the late Colin Flaherty, was a very good friend. | |
| I played a big part in his book, The White Girl Bleed a Lot, Don't Make the Black Kids Angry. | |
| And we would talk about this stuff all the time. | |
| And I always said, Colin, which one of these is going to break it? | |
| He said, big man, this has been going on for decades. | |
| This has been going on as you've, as you know, throughout all of American history. | |
| It's why Jim Crow existed. | |
| It's why segregation existed to protect lives. | |
| We'll know when it happens. | |
| But until then, we have to keep doing all these just gruesome stories. | |
| And I had a feeling this was going to be that moment when the video was released and you see her simply get on. | |
| Again, she's a Ukrainian refugee from the Russia-Ukrainian conflict. | |
| She spent her entire life in a homogenous country of Ukraine. | |
| And she's probably been in public transportation there, James, a lot. | |
| And she had, she, again, all she does is take the first seat. | |
| You or I, if we were to ride MARTA or if we were to ride the metro in D.C. or any subway in the country, we would have situational awareness. | |
| We'd look around, we'd be like, yeah, that's a disruptive looking black guy. | |
| I'm going to sit somewhere else. | |
| She just sits right down. | |
| He's right behind her. | |
| And then within seconds, within, well, within about 15 seconds, he stands up and stabs her to death. | |
| And it was just when the full video was released due to the FOIA request, you realized thanks to Elon Musk, thanks to all these tireless anons on Twitter, anonymous accounts, this story just grew to a point where, again, going back to the Charlie Kirk correlation, you have the guy who is the leader of conservative youth groups. | |
| I hate that word, by the way. | |
| I'm never going to use that again. | |
| The leader of American youth groups. | |
| As a southerner, we have to realize it's really simple, guys. | |
| You know, everything we had reconciliation. | |
| We used to honor Nathan Bedford Forrest, Robert E. Lee, Stonewall Jackson, Jeff Davis, Matthew Maury, Jeb Stewart in Richmond, Virginia, and in Memphis, Tennessee, with beautiful monuments. | |
| They tore them down. | |
| They melted them down, gruesomely, the R.E. Lee and the Stonewall Jackson statues in Charlottesville. | |
| And yet, we're at a point now where the guy who is out there leading the charge on campuses, he was just assassinated by this, what has now been described as a very radicalized left-winger from a great, you know, a great family in Utah. | |
| You know, it's funny, the left says, oh, come on, he's just from this great, right, you know, right-meaning conservative Utah white family. | |
| And it's like, yeah, you know, you guys turned him into a familiar. | |
| You guys made him this agent for the most evil ideology imaginable. | |
| And at its heart, it's anti-white. | |
| It's beating anti-white. | |
| And Charlie Kirk has been coming to our side in dramatic ways. | |
| And really, these two stories highlight that there cannot be peace with the left. | |
| They've made it very clear that they want to hurt people who disagree with them because they've laid the groundwork where anybody they call as a racist or a fascist immediately should not have any access to public life in America. | |
| And they've made it clear. | |
| Charlie Kirk was a moderate who wanted to have a debate with him, James, and said, prove me wrong. | |
| The left has proven that when I say the quote from Independence Day, when the president interviews the alien, you know, talks to the alien, he says, What is it you want us to do? | |
| And the alien says, die, die. | |
| There can be no peace. | |
| That's where you have to. | |
| Here, here. | |
| Paul, I've got two comments. | |
| I've got a comment on Irinya Zaruska and one on Tyler Robinson, the assassin of Charlie Kirk. | |
| Alleged, yeah. | |
| Apparently. | |
| Yeah, but about arena public transportation. | |
| I think that you hit the nail on the head when you said somebody that comes from Eastern Europe is not going to be blackwise. | |
| And if you're not blackwise, for example, I would never have sat down in that car because if you look at that video carefully, there were no white people, only black people in that car. | |
| And they're not going to raise a hand to help a white person. | |
| In fact, they're probably secretly in support of the murderer. | |
| And, you know, public transportation in the South, and I think probably in the North as well, at least, you know, the East Coast, predominantly used by black people. | |
| And you really don't need to use that. | |
| I wish that somebody that had some sense had told that girl, look, I'll take you to work and pick you up or something like this, or you can, I'll pay for an Uber or something, but don't use public transportation, people. | |
| This is a cautionary tale about that. | |
| Now, about Tyler Robinson, I'll bet you a dollar to a donut hole that boy went to public school. | |
| Any white kid that goes to public school nowadays is doomed, okay? | |
| The only thing you'll learn is self-loathing. | |
| And that may be what happened to him. | |
| I don't know what happened, but I do know that there's this false sense of security in white tofias like Utah, that somehow the public schools are all right. | |
| They're not. | |
| The left is turning. | |
| Well, I mean, we're speculating now. | |
| I don't know if he went to a private school or not. | |
| Let's get back to our guests. | |
| I'd like Paul's thoughts on those comments. | |
| We're bouncing around a little bit, but Paul, take it any differently. | |
| Real quick, homeschooling is a great, you know, if you live in a great area with good schools and you're involved in your local PTA and you know the teachers and you have a good, solid church foundation that is invested in your kids' life, that's the greatest start you can do. | |
| Public education should be fantastic. | |
| It's just we live in a conquered country and we are individuals who are trying to collectively push back against that. | |
| My main thing is this girl, she was working a job, Irina Zarutska, and she just gets on the bus. | |
| She gets on the train and Rosa Parks' legacy is Irina Zarutska's death at the hands of Decarlovich. | |
| Amen. | |
| That's a great line. | |
| Great comment. | |
| And there's a monument in Montgomery, Alabama to her where she's imaginarily sitting on something and Rosa Parks sat so DeCarlos Brown could stab. | |
| It's that simple. | |
| Could stab Zarina Zarutska. | |
| That's right. | |
| If it had never been for Rosa Parks and that whole movement of integration, we wouldn't be facing the situation that we have in the world. | |
| Interesting when you talk about the mythology of that time in American history, the mythology of Emmett Till and moving forward, Trayvon Martin and George Floyd, interracial violence is always like this. | |
| And I mean always. | |
| Statistically speaking, why don't black rapes, for instance, and murders don't even register. | |
| Jared Taylor's done so much work, he'll be on later to document this. | |
| But, you know, Paul, we've gone so far now we're, you know, we're at a point where simply understanding isn't enough. | |
| What can be done? | |
| What can actually be done? | |
| Well, the first thing that I would do if I were advising President Trump is I would say, I would like the DOJ to look into if we could immediately evaluate every state's rules and what the federal government can do to step in and immediately execute everyone on death row in every state. | |
| I didn't know that, you know, when the left wins a battle like we saw with Derek Chauvin and George Floyd, it was immediately defund the police. | |
| Let's get as much money from corporate America and pump the federal government to go to help out programs to help out blacks or let's get let's get money to blocking NGOs. | |
| Paul, hold on. | |
| Right there, we'll let you pick up right there. | |
| Set time. | |
| We've got to take a quick break. | |
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| Why don't we say to the government writ large that they have to spend a little bit less? | |
| Anybody ever had less money this year than you had last? | |
| Anybody better have a 1% pay cut? | |
| You deal with it. | |
| That's what government needs, a 1% pay cut. | |
| If you take a 1% pay cut across the board, you have more than enough money to actually pay for the disaster relief. | |
| But nobody's going to do that because they're fiscally irresponsible. | |
| Who are they? | |
| Republicans. | |
| Who are they? | |
| Democrats. | |
| Who are they? | |
| Virtually the whole body is careless and reckless with your money. | |
| So the money will not be offset by cuts anywhere. | |
| The money will be added to the debt, and there will be a day of reckoning. | |
| What's the day of reckoning? | |
| The day of reckoning may well be the collapse of the stock market. | |
| The day of reckoning may be the collapse of the dollar. | |
| When it comes, I can't tell you exactly, but I can tell you it has happened repeatedly in history when countries ruin their currency. | |
| We're back with the great Paul Kersey, author of so many books, including but not limited to Whitey on the Moon, Escape from Detroit, Black Mecca Down. | |
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| He is a mainstay on UNS. | |
| Ron Unz, our first guest of the year back in January, and he is just incredible. | |
| As you are being reminded tonight, he's been appearing with us for so many years. | |
| But Paul, we want to give you the opportunity to continue the thought or conclude the thought rather that you were making before that last break. | |
| I'm a huge proponent of the book Starship Troopers by Robert Heinlein in 1959 and the 1997 movie that came out where the left is like, oh, we're making fun of what a fascist society would look like. | |
| Well, wait a second. | |
| You're showing us being an interplanetary species with peace, stability, and positive race relations among everyone. | |
| Okay, why is that? | |
| Because we actually punish those who commit violent crime. | |
| And everybody on death row, President Trump should immediately sign that by the end of September they have executions. | |
| I'm okay with them being made public. | |
| I think that people who have done these violent crimes against primarily members of their own race, because I think they're disproportionately black, they need to be summarily executed. | |
| Again, like I said, the left always is prepared to push the envelope for their ideas. | |
| At this point, the right, there can be no unity. | |
| I saw where the junior senator from Alabama, Katie Britt, was going on TV saying, oh, we need unity. | |
| We need to talk. | |
| No, they don't murder the guy who wants to talk. | |
| They just murdered the guy who wants to talk. | |
| And again, he's sitting underneath a tailgate tent with the words, prove me wrong. | |
| Prove me wrong, fellas. | |
| Prove me wrong, pal. | |
| He wanted to talk. | |
| He wanted to, you know, he was the moderate voice. | |
| And it's far time that the left gets the right that keeps them up at night. | |
| It's far time that they get the America that they call racist and xenophobic and nativist our entire history. | |
| Hey, James, who was the first female in America to get a statue for him? | |
| Do you know? | |
| I'm guessing now. | |
| No, I don't. | |
| In 1874, a statue was built in New England for Hannah Dudson. | |
| In the 17th century, she was kidnapped by Indians. | |
| Her baby was butchered. | |
| She ended up escaping and taking 10 scalps of the Indians who were about to kill her. | |
| There's a statue with her holding a hatchet and the tin and the tiny. | |
| I have seen that matter. | |
| Well, don't tell anybody about that, or they'll tear that one down a lot. | |
| I don't know about that. | |
| I think we've moved past that. | |
| When I saw Charlie Kirk's widow give that speech last night where she said, we're not backing down, we're going harder. | |
| That's the type of mindset and mentality that has to be unleashed. | |
| These people want you dead. | |
| They want you broke. | |
| Sam Hunting said it best. | |
| These people want you broke, homeless, your kids raped, and they think it's funny. | |
| I mean, look at all the people who celebrated. | |
| Look at these goons in positions of authority in communities, whether they're doctors, lawyers, judges, airline pilots, nurses, teachers. | |
| It's astonishing to see how many teachers have been celebrating. | |
| There's a database you can go to and you can see the 40,000 plus and growing individuals who they've identified as celebrating. | |
| Best argument for homeschooling you could have, basically, Paul, is I don't disagree with that. | |
| I don't disagree with that. | |
| But it's also a reminder that when those same people saw Irina Zaruska's brutal murder, they probably thought, well, she deserved it because she had white privilege. | |
| That's what I learned about in school. | |
| That's the way you get rid of white privilege. | |
| Like my friend Brittany Watts, back in 2011, she was shot by a black guy who in college had learned about white privilege and empires against people of color. | |
| And what did he do? | |
| He went out in Atlanta, Georgia, and targeted three white girls, killing Brittany Watts, who I grew up with. | |
| It's like, you know. | |
| Well, remember with Zarutska, the mayor, I don't know if she's black or what she is. | |
| Two black. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Her comments, see, we've got too many people in elected offices that are affirmative action hires, basically. | |
| The bench as well, you know, the judiciary. | |
| And that is, you know, that's a big problem. | |
| And really, all of those, the results of that, the harvest of that hasn't really been felt yet, but it's happening. | |
| And, you know, you cannot, you can't live in a community in which you can't rely on a justice system dealing justice out. | |
| You know, that's what you have in places that have an overflow of those affirmative action hires in positions of authority. | |
| Unfortunately, we do, Keith. | |
| And unfortunately, we live in a society where the egalitarian ideas have seeped into every aspect of our lives. | |
| And trust me, it's absolutely astonishing that we tolerate it for so long. | |
| And I think honest leftists, when whatever's coming, whatever Charlie Kirk and whatever Donald Trump, you know, they're moderates and they're there because they were always that bridge to the next era of Western civilization. | |
| That great quote from Dark Knight Rises that Bain says. | |
| And that's where we are. | |
| I mean, we're living through a moment that I still sometimes wonder when you think about what was going on five years ago in 2020, the summer of George Floyd. | |
| This wasn't supposed to happen. | |
| And it's because people had courage. | |
| It's because people persevered. | |
| It's because those individuals on January 6th said something's wrong with our country. | |
| They were persecuted beyond belief. | |
| People who have stood up for all of this for so long have been unfairly persecuted, doxed, hurt. | |
| And it's at that moment right now where the concept of liberal democracy, whatever you want to call it in this country, so many of these tenets that hold aloft 21st century America, they're being broken as we speak in a lot of people's minds, especially because you're seeing the reaction of normal people who you consider your neighbors. | |
| And they're cheering on the death of Charlie Kirk. | |
| And they're like, oh, it's not all black people. | |
| Well, you don't base social policy on individuals. | |
| And I've read too many crime stats to know that Memphis is dangerous because the 64% black city that it is now drove away all the white people who had to then flee Germantown because Germantowns had the black or toe follow and turn that city into a majority black Republican. | |
| I got a whole slew of different suburbs, and they all have a different calling card. | |
| But it's they're all there because of the black takeover. | |
| That's the same thing with Atlanta, Georgia, Birmingham, Alabama. | |
| That's the same thing with St. Louis. | |
| That's the same thing with Baltimore. | |
| That's the same thing with New Orleans and the parishes. | |
| That's the same thing with Jackson, Mississippi, an 82% black people that every stereotype is true. | |
| Guys, we've reached the point now where people on the right, conservatives who have followed Charlie Kirk, they need to realize why Charlie Kirk was moving to the right, why he was openly talking about the Civil Rights Act being disastrous for the country. | |
| I don't care what it did to enable blacks to prosper because it didn't. | |
| The only thing that caused blacks to prosper was government employment. | |
| If it were not for government employment, there'd be no black middle class. | |
| I'll be blunt. | |
| That's why Doge failed. | |
| That's one of the great things that Elon Musk showed. | |
| The first articles we saw regarding the Doge was that the black middle class in Prince George's County and Charles County, Maryland were going to be decimated by this. | |
| And there's been New York Times articles talking about just the complete decimation of the black middle class because these jobs were superfluous. | |
| It's a joke. | |
| Whether it's local, state, or federal, it's a joke. | |
| And we can have peaceful relations, but there has to be what Thomas Jefferson said, separation. | |
| You know, the American people. | |
| They can't be troubled with pesky notions like productivity. | |
| All right, hold on, guys. | |
| One second. | |
| We got just three minutes left. | |
| I got to work this question in for you, Paul. | |
| It brings us back full circle to the beginning. | |
| And this was what you were talking about with the late, great Colin Flaherty, which one would be the one. | |
| If this one is the one, and I think that it very well could be, I'm putting my money on it, in fact. | |
| The question is why? | |
| Was it because it was captured on video? | |
| Was it because we see this particular, particularly primal black man savagely murdering this beautiful, petite, delicate young blonde woman? | |
| And we see the terror in her eyes. | |
| She recoils into that fetal position. | |
| I've watched her die a hundred times crying alone seconds before she loses consciousness. | |
| That callousness that we saw from the black passengers who did nothing to help or comfort her or confront her killer. | |
| In and of itself, I mean, you know, this murder really wasn't entirely that different from so many horrific black-on-white murders that you've documented, Paul, over so many years. | |
| There have been countless encounters like this before. | |
| And even since, even since in Alabama, there was another one since this. | |
| In Auburn, Alabama, a world-recognized leader in clinical research for veterinary medicine was murdered at a park that I've been to many times, Kiesel Park, the day after the Auburn football game at Ball State, in the broad daylight, and her dog guarded her body, her puppy. | |
| I mean, see, that one really, yeah. | |
| I mean, that sentence. | |
| And I was just going to say, I'm sure if you had a video of that, it would be equally horrific. | |
| But very quickly, with just a minute remaining, why is it, Paul? | |
| Why is it all of that and more that this one may be the one to finally cause positive change in action? | |
| 14 prior murder, 14 prior charges. | |
| A guy had been in jail for, I think, six years. | |
| She sits down on a bus on a train on the light rail, which I've been on many times in Charlotte. | |
| All she does is sit down and she's immediately stabbed. | |
| And like you said, the video pans out. | |
| You see blacks just stand there. | |
| No one does anything. | |
| No one comes to her aid. | |
| No one comes to help her. | |
| And I think all real men, all real Americans felt a sense of shame that they weren't there. | |
| And we don't, and that's why Jim Crow was there. | |
| That's why Jim Crow existed to protect people on public transportation, to protect the integrity of our country for our posterity, gentlemen. | |
| And seeing Elon Musk talk about funding thousands of murals to be painted over. | |
| There's a mural in Atlanta of John Lewis that you can see from ID5 when you're driving through the city. | |
| I would love to see that bloody thing painted. | |
| Tear it down. | |
| Tear it all down. | |
| Sidstone Mountain and tear that up. | |
| I'll tell you, Paul, and I know you agree. | |
| I mean, there can be, there really needs to be a reckoning. | |
| All this stuff about fair play and going in blindfolded with a hand behind your back. | |
| If we ever get the upper hand, there should be no mercy. | |
| Firing, deplatforming, inability to access financial criminals ought to be in jail. | |
| Severe capital punishment, all of it, all of it, and then some and then remigration on a global scale. | |
| I said that. | |
| I was just back on Twitter last week. | |
| But the right has got to learn. | |
| The right has got to do more. | |
| This has been an intractable problem since the beginning. | |
| George Washington's nephew and Francis Scott Key were the founders of the American Colonization Society. | |
| It officially folded in 1964. | |
| It's time to bring it back. | |
| Amen. | |
| Hey, Paul Kersey, everybody else is going to have a tough act to follow. | |
| I love you, brother. | |
| Thank you so much for your ability to convey the truth. | |
| Not just to tell it, but your ability to articulate it. | |
| Paul Kersey, one of the best. | |
| We'll be back with Steve King. | |
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| President Trump says Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk leaves behind a remarkable legacy. | |
| As he mourns the fatal shooting of one of his top political allies, the president said Kirk's impact on conservative politics will carry on. | |
| We miss him greatly, yet I have no doubt that Charlie's voice and the courage he put into the hearts of countless people, especially young people, will live on. | |
| He also announced plans to posthumously award Kirk the Presidential Medal of Freedom, which is the nation's highest civilian honor. | |
| Greg Klugston, Washington. | |
| In Phoenix at Turning Point USA, Charlie Kirk's widow, Erica, said the evildoers responsible for her husband's assassination have no idea what they have done. | |
| They should all know this. | |
| If you thought that my husband's mission was powerful before, you have no idea. | |
| You have no idea what you just have unleashed across this entire country. | |
| This past week, Russia announced a deal on a new gas pipeline to China. | |
| That would give Russia a chance to replace some of the lost natural gas sales when they cut off their gas shipments to Europe. | |
| So they'd be finding a big new customer for their gas. | |
| One issue, however, is that it's not entirely clear China really needs the gas. | |
| So that the takeaway from this announcement may be China and Russia demonstrating their new closer relationship amid tensions with the United States and China letting the U.S. know that it doesn't necessarily need U.S. shipments of liquefied natural gas from U.S. producers. | |
| On paper, the project known as Power of Siberia 2 would give Russia a way to replace some of the revenue from its decades of selling natural gas to Europe that was lost over its invasion of Ukraine. | |
| More on these stories at townhall.com. | |
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| And let me tell you something I'd not share with anybody, but the last message that Charlie Kirk gave to me before he joined his creator in heaven was he said that we have to dismantle and take on the radical left organizations in this country that are fomenting violence. | |
| That was the last message that he sent me before that assassin stole him from all of us. | |
| And we are going to do that under President Trump's leadership. | |
| I don't care how it could be a RICO charge, a conspiracy charge, conspiracy against the United States, insurrection, but we are going to do what it takes to dismantle the organizations and the entities that are fomenting riots, that are doxing, that are trying to inspire terrorism, and that are committing acts of wanton violence. | |
| It has to stop. | |
| And my message is to all of the domestic terrorists in this country spreading this evil hate. | |
| You want us to live in fear? | |
| We will not live in fear, but you will live in exile because the power of law enforcement under President Trump's leadership will be used to find you, will use it to take away your money, take away your power, and if you've broken the law to take away your freedom, Sean. | |
| All right. | |
| That was Stephen Miller, very high up in the Trump administration on Fox News just in the last day or two. | |
| Normally when we have Congressman Steve King on, it is a lot of fun. | |
| Tonight will not be fun, but we are glad to have him back. | |
| Steve King, former United States Representative from Iowa, is with us to talk about the events of the week. | |
| They need no introduction. | |
| Steve, again, thank you for being with us tonight. | |
| Well, thanks a lot for having me on, and this is the time we need to have this discussion, and I'm glad you're taking it up here today. | |
| I want to read two comments to you and then get your response as to what government could actually do if it intends to be serious about this. | |
| And so here's one. | |
| This was just a comment on Twitter, and it reads, it is time for a complete crackdown on the left. | |
| Every Democratic politician must be arrested and the party banned under RICO. | |
| Every liberal commentator must be shut down. | |
| Stoastic terrorism is what they have thrust upon us. | |
| They caused this. | |
| That's just one commenter. | |
| This is, though, is Steve Bannon now. | |
| Steve Bannon now writes, designate Antifa as a domestic terror organization, freeze their bank accounts, declare martial law on Portland, shut them down, round them up, and go kick down some doors today, perp walk them, chain them up, and take them down to federal prison. | |
| You balance that against what you heard from Stephen Miller. | |
| Congressman, you would have the informed perspective on this. | |
| What can government actually do? | |
| Well, at first, it sounds to me like they're on the same page, the president, Stephen Miller, and Bannon. | |
| Although I've been a strong advocate for freedom of speech, and I'm a victim of those that attacked me because of my freedom of speech. | |
| But I think that the first thing I want to put the marker down on that is that the freedom of speech needs to be protected. | |
| Let's not sacrifice it in retribution for this ghastly, murderous assassination of a glorious American icon. | |
| This killing of Charlie Kirk has more impact on this country than anything of its kind since Martin Luther King Jr. | |
| It can be transformative. | |
| And so if we do this thing right, we need to get their foundation on the ground and make sure that we're not overplaying this. | |
| But on the other hand, we cannot lowball this thing. | |
| We cannot go in slow and we can't go in weak. | |
| And so what we can do as a government is, I don't know what you've heard in this and the tapes that have talked about and the things that I, of course, heard and said here ever since Wednesday, is that I think Trump is on solid ground when he says he thinks there's a RICO case against George Soros. | |
| And when he says Soros, he also needs to mean the entire lexicon of left-wing 501c3 organizations that are dodging tax dollars and that are being, many of them funded by our federal government, they have to be taken down. | |
| And I think there is a collaboration effort out there, and I've seen it for quite some time, and this is the most current component of it, to take down the federal government. | |
| And you see it was a Russia-Russia-Russia hoax. | |
| That's part of that. | |
| You've seen it as the efforts out there in the streets, the George Floyd, the Black Lives Matters, the riots in the streets, they're all funded. | |
| And when they sent all those million women into Washington, D.C. for the first inauguration of Trump and those pink hats, that was all funded. | |
| And so there is a strategic effort to break down the civil society, and the left believes that they can emerge on top of that somehow in power. | |
| So whether it's a RICO case or whether it's, I'll just say, whether it's treason, it's an effort to take down the federal government and the shot at Charlie Kirk as now. | |
| It has awakened, well, some would say a sleeping giant. | |
| That's an old expression, but it's awakened the youth in this country. | |
| And the youth in this country can be the generation that is the antidote for my generation of the 60s when we got it wrong. | |
| I wasn't involved in that, by the way. | |
| We got it wrong and moved this country off to the left, turn on, tune in, drop out, don't work for the man, don't be a tool of the corporation. | |
| And then the things that have grown out of the affirmative action piece from the 60s on, now we arrived at wokeness, that can all be put back in the bottle if the young people in this country rise up against this. | |
| And with Trump leaves on this, that's a Rico case, and they take Soros out. | |
| And we go after all of those people in the social media that are celebrating the ghastly assassination of Charlie Kirk and out them and rout them. | |
| I've already seen a good number of people that have lost their job because of what they would say is their freedom of speech. | |
| And they've been telling us for a long time there's a consequence for freedom of speech. | |
| Well, their consequence for that needs to be that we're going to out them, we're going to rout them, and we're going to restore the civilization of this country on the name of Charlie Kirk. | |
| Let me put it very succinctly, okay? | |
| There's been a lot said about this. | |
| The main thing we have to do is criminals belong in prison, period. | |
| Okay? | |
| We need to, and we have a whole judicial system now that seems to be geared towards avoiding putting criminals in prison. | |
| And for example, that's why DeMarco killed Arinya Zarusko. | |
| Well, that's a different, you know, I know a different thing, but it's still part of the same story this week, for sure. | |
| It's part of the same societal rot that allows this tranny guy or this homosexual to murder Charlie Kirk. | |
| The lawlessness permeates our country now, and it needs to be reversed. | |
| All right, well, let's talk about that, Congressman. | |
| I mean, you're again, I mean, this is more of a blue city or blue state divide. | |
| I mean, you know, the things that happen in Charlotte don't happen in small-town USA, but they certainly happen in cities all over the country. | |
| Okay, well, I mean, certainly we need to get there needs to be, there's a lot of people call, you know, I never thought I'd be a moderate. | |
| I'm doing a lot of stuff on Twitter now for people calling for something much more strong than corporal punishment or capital punishment. | |
| But I want to ask you this very quickly because we only have you for one second tonight, which is very rare. | |
| It's a quick hit. | |
| I would say SteveKing.com, if you don't have his book, you can get it. | |
| We got a lot of those books out during, I guess it was last year. | |
| Steve was down. | |
| We were down at a conference in Orlando last January of 24, and I went home with a crate of signed books that we got out to you, our listeners. | |
| But let me ask you this, Steve. | |
| You sold every one, James, didn't you? | |
| We sold every single one. | |
| We sure did. | |
| We absolutely did. | |
| So we all did good on that one, and thank you for that. | |
| But what could radicalize someone to assassinate Charlie Kirk? | |
| I mean, that's the rhetorical question. | |
| A decade of the left and the corporate media slandering and dehumanizing him and everybody, a half click to the right of Comrade Stalin as a fascist, a racist, a Nazi, an anti-Semite. | |
| They assassinated his character until an assassin fired a bullet through his throat. | |
| So reads a quote on social media. | |
| I want to ask you this with a minute remaining. | |
| Is the media, the establishment media culpable in this? | |
| Are they accomplices in this? | |
| Well, I think they're both. | |
| I think they're culpable, but I think they're also accomplices. | |
| And they know that they're fomenting this hatred. | |
| And if you could go back to Cloward and Pivot, who wrote years ago, decades ago, that they wanted to break down this society by running us into debt, by handing out welfare to everybody, by creating violence in the streets. | |
| And in doing so in that chaos, they believe they could rise to power and take down the, well, we'll say the American center of the American civilization. | |
| They've been doing this for a long time. | |
| And it is. | |
| It's driven by Soros and others. | |
| He's not the only guy by any means. | |
| But the media is part of that. | |
| They're culpable. | |
| And you saw the censorship that came out of the social media. | |
| That's completely out in the open with regard to Zuckerberg's effort and others. | |
| They were working in not just cooperation, but at the direction of the Biden administration. | |
| So they are all part of this. | |
| The Biden administration is part of this. | |
| And this network, if the American people understood it, they would say those people are treasonous and they ought to face the biggest judgment that can come. | |
| And I've used that before. | |
| I've said, tell me what it is that isn't treason when you try to take down the government of the United States by quote any means necessary, close quote. | |
| That's treason. | |
| And we've seen it now. | |
| We've seen it on national TV. | |
| We've seen a gag of one of the finest men this country has ever produced. | |
| And I got to call Charlie Kirk a friend. | |
| And I saw what he was doing. | |
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| I'll tell you something that's going to get me in trouble, but I couldn't care less. | |
| The radicals on the right oftentimes are radical because they don't want to see crime. | |
| They don't want to see crime. | |
| Worried about the border. | |
| They're saying, we don't want these people coming in. | |
| We don't want you burning our shopping centers. | |
| We don't want you shooting our people in the middle of the street. | |
| The radicals on the left are the problem. | |
| I mean, that is a pretty powerful thing coming from President Trump. | |
| I couldn't agree more. | |
| I am so glad. | |
| I mean, did you ever think you'd live this long, Keith, where President of the United States was talking like that? | |
| We are in a new era. | |
| And it's, you know, Trump has been the Catalans. | |
| Well, I mean, you know, we can, if you want to find. | |
| Bill Rowland told me something a long time ago. | |
| Bill said, if people can justify anything. | |
| And if you want to find fault in someone, you'll never have to look too hard. | |
| And if you hang someone for any fault you find without putting everything on a balance and on a scale, you're always going to come up with. | |
| Don't let the excellent be the enemy of the good. | |
| That's right. | |
| All right. | |
| Well, anyway, we are now back with that having been said and that clip having been played with another great former Congressman Steve King to Steve Stockman. | |
| We go down in Texas. | |
| Congressman Stockman, it's great to have you back as well. | |
| Elon Musk said on Twitter this week, either fight back or they will kill us. | |
| Another comment on Twitter in response to the photo of the casket with Charlie Kirk, Charlie Kirk's casket, the left did this. | |
| They radicalized the killer and murdered a good man. | |
| Then they celebrated. | |
| I will never unify with the monsters who did this. | |
| I was texting with you, Congressman, earlier this week, and I said, you know, quoting the verse from Ecclesiastes, I said, now may be a time for hate. | |
| How are you tonight? | |
| And what is your take on all of this? | |
| Well, I tell you what, if Elon didn't own Twitter or X, he probably would have got kicked off his platform. | |
| It's lucky he bought it. | |
| Not funny, but true. | |
| Yeah, I mean, think about it. | |
| If he said that on Twitter just a few years ago, that would have kicked him off. | |
| He was a key person, basically, by having that platform. | |
| I don't know that we could have made this transformation without him. | |
| Well, you know, anyway, that having been said, here's one more for you, Steve, and then we'll let you run unbridled. | |
| Steve Bannon, we quoted Steve Bannon in the previous segment as well with our mutual friend and your former colleague Steve King. | |
| Steve Bannon writes, We're headed for a civil war. | |
| They just gunned down one of the most gentle, spiritual, applied Christian men in the country, a solid leader who always said, Let's debate it out. | |
| They shot him like a dog and called blood, and now they're cheering. | |
| All right, so where are we at, Congressman Stockman, and where are we going? | |
| And what do you want to see done? | |
| What can government do? | |
| I asked that question of King earlier. | |
| Well, you know, if you think about it, the left has always said, oh, we need to talk things. | |
| We need to talk things. | |
| And if you look at the history, that's all he did. | |
| He talked and he let anybody say what they wanted. | |
| They got open speech. | |
| He wasn't mean to them. | |
| And the response is, you know, I saw a meme that said, we want you just to calm down and let's have a conversation. | |
| They'd go, you just shot the guy that did that. | |
| And it's really alarming that the threshold now, everybody's a racist. | |
| Everybody's a Nazi. | |
| And if you're normal, they call you far right, even the press. | |
| But I don't know if you're following around the world. | |
| Korea had a huge march on his behalf, Charlie's behalf. | |
| And in South Korea, you wouldn't think he had that kind of impact, but he did around the world. | |
| And if you're watching, of course, there was also rallies that were amazing in England where they had 3 million people show up. | |
| And the guy, the left, is saying they're all Nazis and beer drinkers that are showing up and footballers or showing up to those rallies. | |
| And I'm thinking, my goodness, we have the numbers. | |
| We're the normal people, and we're not characterizing that. | |
| Anybody normal is called a Nazi, a fascist. | |
| We don't have the microphones is a problem, Steve. | |
| We got two of them right here in our hands right here in a Congress, but we don't control the establishment. | |
| And that's our problem. | |
| All right, so here's a question for you. | |
| And I asked this of Congressman King right before the break that brought you to us tonight. | |
| And sometimes y'all are on together on this show, and it's always great whether you're together or apart or if we're together in person at an event or whatever. | |
| But Lauren Witzke, a former candidate for the United States Senate, and she's always out there doing something. | |
| She wrote this week, when we win, journalists should be thrown into work camps where they belong. | |
| I asked this of King a second ago, Steve, and that is, how culpable is the media in all this? | |
| You were touching on it. | |
| Are they accomplices in all this? | |
| And what can be done to bring them down? | |
| I mean, can they just say everybody is all of these things until they get killed and then laugh at it? | |
| They get away with that? | |
| I mean, is that free speech? | |
| Is that what that's what we're about? | |
| I can tell you, it's not just the media, but it's the universities who are radical, radical people that are in there. | |
| How do we cleanse those people out? | |
| Well, let me say this, though. | |
| I have a lot of friends that send their kids to these schools. | |
| And if you look at the videotape of the guy who shot, what you call it, Kirk Charlie. | |
| He got a scholarship to Boston. | |
| I can't remember the university. | |
| It may have been Boston. | |
| But anyhow, he got a scholarship. | |
| And when he went to college, they radicalized him. | |
| And that's where he really turned in. | |
| In fact, they have a clip of him speaking at the Democrat Socialist. | |
| I mean, it's just, and ironically to you, that the left is telling us that it's actually he's a mega Trump supporter, which is laughable. | |
| How to get him out? | |
| We just have to stop tenure. | |
| Tenure is the root of all evil. | |
| These guys, once they get tenure, tenure means you can't fire me. | |
| And we need to end tenure for universities. | |
| And also, too, I would also put all student loans through the university. | |
| And if a student doesn't pay it off, then the university has to pay it off. | |
| I say this because they're turning out students that have degrees. | |
| I was at an event where I was speaking at an AI convention, and I asked her degree, and she said, I'm in peace and world unity. | |
| That was her degree. | |
| And at Wellesley, by the way. | |
| Oh, my God. | |
| And I thought I got a lot of people. | |
| You're in lesbian studies. | |
| That's right, yeah. | |
| I mean, I was shocked. | |
| I went, oh, and she goes, I can't find a job. | |
| I go, I don't understand why. | |
| So these are the kind of degrees they, but if she doesn't pay back her loans, because she's got such a stupid degree, the university should be held liable, not the taxpayers. | |
| This is ridiculous. | |
| Universities are turning out. | |
| It's just like in the 60s, the car company started turning out junk, and then other people started competing, and they started going to quit buying American cars because they were drinking on the line. | |
| They're doing all kinds of horrible things that weren't making a proper car. | |
| We have universities turn out junk, stupid degrees. | |
| We need to hold them accountable and make them more competitive against each other. | |
| See, that's what I mean by that. | |
| They're in charge of the establishment. | |
| They're in charge of our educational establishment, our news establishment, everything that you can think of, our judicial and prosecutorial. | |
| Look, I'm all in favor of the dismantling of the establishment press. | |
| They've called all of us the same things they've called Charlie Kirk. | |
| And Charlie Kirk was a lot more moderate than I am. | |
| So, I mean, you know, they killed him. | |
| What would they do to you or to me or to Keith or to any of us who are going to be on the program today? | |
| Back in the 90s, maybe I didn't, I don't know if I should tell this on the air or not, but back in the 90s, when we won, we had a bullock that came through our bedroom that was just literally probably six inches from our head of our bedroom. | |
| And so this isn't something new. | |
| The left is very violent, and I'd laugh at NPR saying it's the right. | |
| And ADL, who's headed by an Obama accolade, published that 80% of all crimes committed by white supremacists. | |
| The statistics don't bear that out. | |
| Yeah, it's just made up, and they keep quoting that statistic. | |
| But when you ask them, you say, please provide us with the data, they won't do it. | |
| And they even blame us for the Minnesota one, where he shot two legislators. | |
| He worked for Tim Waltz, and he said he was killing Tim Waltz's opposition. | |
| That was none of the, listen, I mean, Steve, you know it. | |
| I know it. | |
| Everybody knows it. | |
| People like us, the so-called far right or whatever they call us, I mean, you know me. | |
| The normal people. | |
| Yeah, we're husbands and fathers. | |
| We work for a living. | |
| We don't have time to go to prison for the rest of our lives. | |
| I mean, it is absolutely without any question. | |
| It is the left that are the violent. | |
| But this thing here, too, I mean, Keith, you pointed it out earlier. | |
| I mean, now, according to Fox, and we only got a minute left. | |
| Normally we go an hour with you, Congressman, but this alleged assassin, the suspect was reportedly a homosexual living with a so-called transgender partner. | |
| This individual is now cooperating with the FBI. | |
| This is more LGBT extremism. | |
| I mean, one minute to go, what can the government do? | |
| I mean, if Trump wanted to crack down, what could he legally do if he went on to do it? | |
| He needs to reopen the institution. | |
| We need to redefine or go back to the definition of when people were going through such emotional disturbance that they thought themselves as another sex. | |
| We need to address that issue and find out how we can treat them. | |
| We don't need to change the society to where we're all weirdos. | |
| We need to change the people that have psychological problems and address that. | |
| As you know, I was homeless, and there are a lot of them on the street because they just poured them out in the streets and they don't treat anybody. | |
| They need to reinstitutionalize. | |
| It's the HLU doing that. | |
| That was HLU. | |
| They were behind all of that, deinstitutionalizing people that are basically insane. | |
| Well, as a friend of mine texted me today, these so-called trans people, they hate themselves. | |
| They hate God. | |
| They hate everybody else. | |
| They're a suicide rate. | |
| Yeah, well, and they're on a cocktail of drugs that perhaps makes them violent. | |
| The media then feeds their sense of grievance and persecution. | |
| And, well, then the results are predictable. | |
| This is what you get. | |
| I mean, you know, how many trans killers have we had in the last couple of years? | |
| I mean, based upon their proportion of the population, something's going on there. | |
| And as I say again, the establishment media must be entirely dismantled and this trans and antifa stuff banished. | |
| Congressman Steve Stockman, the greatest congressman right up there with Ron Paul to ever come from the state of Texas. | |
| We always enjoy having you on. | |
| T for Texas and T for Tennessee, Steve. | |
| Well, Tennessee and Texas have a little connection there. | |
| Steve Stockman, it's great to have you on tonight, even if it's for just a quick hit. | |
| Appreciate your commentary, your comments. | |
| You guys are awesome. | |
| Well, we love you too, and we love your wife. | |
| And we'll talk to you again very soon. | |
| Take care. | |
| God bless you guys. | |
| Pray for our nation. | |
| We will. | |
| And for each other. | |
| And we'll be back with the second and third hours. | |
| We're just getting started tonight. | |
| You just heard from Steve King, Steve Stockman, Paul Kersey, kicking things off earlier tonight. | |
| So many more to come. |