Aug. 10, 2025 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
Well, welcome back, everybody.
Our second hour tonight, August 9th.
Keith Alexander now in studio with me.
He was walking in just as Congressman Stockman was getting ready to check out.
In the second hour tonight, we're going to be talking primarily, but not exclusively, but primarily about two Confederate monuments that are being restored, I should put it, to their rightful places of honor.
Yours truly, and Keith Alexander will provide the details on that in very short order.
But first, Keith, you were listening to the interview on the AM dial as you drove out to the studio tonight.
Your comments on the first hour with Congressman Stockman and that whole situation in Texas.
Well, you know, that I was at the Will to Power conference and got to meet firsthand and in person Steve Stockman and Steve King.
And, you know, it occurred to me listening to him just a moment ago how unique it is for a program like ours to have people like Steve King and Steve Stockman on the show.
Most of the people in our movement, you know, they treat congressmen and people like that like they, you know, have herpes or something.
They don't want to have anything to do with them whatsoever.
And instead, you make good, you know, you have a good rapport with them.
And as a result, I think we have much more of an influence on actual legislation and things like this because we get along with these people.
Well, there is something.
And you in particular get along with them.
What you see and hear on the air is a small fraction of what's going on behind the scenes through the work of this network and the connections.
I mean, there's a lot of things I've never told you folks on the air because it's not in our interest to do that.
And when I say our interest, I mean the interest of our collective and our cause.
You don't shout from the rooftops everything you know because, of course, then things could be circumvented.
But through the connections, we don't run from people that have influence.
In fact, we run to them.
Well, I think, well, we'll talk about that in just a second.
You know, the, well, first of all, we just genuinely like these guys.
I mean, they are really good people, and they are sincere, and they're earnest, and they're wonderful.
That's the first thing, and maybe the most important thing.
But yeah, I mean, secondly, of course, if you can work with people that have connections, why would you not want to do that?
I mean, as a strategy, it just doesn't even begin to make sense.
We'll talk about that in just a second.
But before we talk about that, and before we move on to the bigger part of this hour, which is the Confederate monuments that are being restored, comments on the issue at hand that Stockman was on to talk about tonight.
Well, see, this is where the rubber meets the road.
This is where rather than talking about, you know, how bad things are and how bad Trump is and things like this, what we're doing is we're actually making plans that are going to bear fruit in allowing Trump to get his agenda passed.
And let me tell you, he's gotten an awful lot of good things passed.
I know he's not getting credit from a lot of people in our movement about it, but, you know, you can talk about the people in Gaza.
You can talk about Netanyahu.
You can talk about Iran.
The limited bombing campaign in Iran and the Epstein files.
These were things that, you know, and again, I don't want to focus on that yet.
We will get to that.
But just this is the thing.
Everything else that he's done really has been a plus for us, and we need to recognize that.
We would never have made the gains that we've made.
For example, doing away with NPR and PBS.
Can you see that happening under any other Republican president that we've had in the 20th century?
And the restoration of these monuments, which again, we're going to get to, and we're going to get to the detractors.
Everything that's good is really bad.
So we're told by some of our friends.
But this thing, I thought that was a highly informative interview.
I learned so much in that interview with Stockman.
And a couple of things being that when these people get arrested, when they come back, they don't go to jail.
They take them to the Capitol so they can get quorum.
I mean, all of that is very interesting, but I really learned something tonight about, this is a teachable moment, folks, that white people, conservatives, Republicans, whatever you want to call yourself or ourselves.
I'm a white person first, of course.
But the thing is, that whole thing with Sheila Jackson Lee, we learned tonight, I learned tonight, maybe other people knew it, I didn't know it, from Congressman Stockman, that they had her district drawn out.
But because she called so many people in Texas a racist in the mid-90s, from the goodness of their hearts, these white Republicans gave her her district.
And what happened with that?
This is very, very interesting.
This is something Sam Dixon, who was on the show last week, said to me many, many years ago.
When these black kids honor their heroes, or black men, black women, black whatever, when they honor their heroes, they're honoring Martin Luther King.
They're not honoring Earl Warren.
You know, there's no monuments to Earl Warren that have been erected by black people.
And when Sheila Jackson Lee, who had a seat made for her by white Republicans, when it came, did she ever say, you know what?
I want to thank the white Republicans in Texas because they could have drawn my lines out.
I wouldn't even be here.
I am here because of their sense of fair play or because they want to be agreeable.
And I want to thank them for that.
They didn't have to do that.
No, she never did that.
She attacked relentlessly after they gave her a seat.
And this is a mistake that whites need to learn from.
Yeah, we really do.
You know, what's good for the goose is good for the gander.
And if that's the way she's going to treat us, we need to treat her.
They all do that.
It goes back to Earl Warren.
It goes back.
I mean, these black people honor their heroes.
They don't honor white traders.
Well, just think about who is that leader of South Africa that caved into Clerk and allowed the ANC to take over?
Did he get any statues?
Did he get any plaudits?
He got nothing.
Well, he got a lot of demonization just like the whites did.
Yeah, right.
See, the thing is, there's no advantage to doing this.
It's just cowardice.
It's just craven cowardice.
And we need to purge that from the Republican Party.
We need to get Republicans that are not ashamed to represent their constituents who are white people.
All right.
And you are getting that, Maureen.
I mean, you got Marjorie Taylor Greene.
You got Republicans now in Congress that are saying things that, you know, we heard from people like Steve and Steve.
The Steve and Steve Show, that'd be a great podcast.
King and Stockman.
They were saying in South Carolina with us earlier this year.
But so that is beginning to, you know, that is slowly beginning to occur.
But do not sleep on the work of this radio program, ladies and gentlemen.
The things we are doing are things that nobody else in this movement has done.
It is bearing fruit.
I mean, this whole thing, I mean, Sam Bushman, we had Sam Bushman on last week in the third hour.
I mean, the fact that he has been named one of the top 100 most influential people in all of talk radio in America, which is to say he's one of the most influential, top 100 influential people in radio media in the world.
This is the guy who syndicates this program, the work of this network, the networking that we do.
Behind the scenes, only a fraction of it that you know.
You don't exist like some people in our movement just to sit back and grouch about something.
And I don't like to, you know, I never punch right.
And so, you know, we're not naming any names.
And I love all these people.
I disagree with them on tactics.
I disagree with them on perception.
It's fine.
It's not, you know, who's better, who's worse.
You know, if you're in our movement, if you're working in good faith, even if we have disagreements on strategy, you're a brother.
So I don't want to even get into that.
But I would say that what we're doing here is unique.
We'll just leave it at that.
We have a unique approach, and it's an approach that is effective and bears fruit.
I think it has been, you know, certainly one of the most effective mechanisms, tools, resources, this program, in mainstreaming our ideas.
As I said before, the goal of this program was always to bring our issues to the mainstream.
Not because we trim ourselves so that we can become mainstream by today's standards, but that we would be inflexible in our beliefs on racial realities and whatever else.
But we would work in good faith to bring others who have influence above and beyond or outside of our sphere to us.
And you do that by being, you know, frankly personable, being real, being genuine, having an ability to attract people and not be a freak, not be a chronic malcontent, not be a guy.
Yeah, that's exactly.
It's that chronic malcontent thing by Freud.
A lot of people want to be a chronic malcontent.
Maybe that's their personality or whatnot.
But if we're actually going to make any progress towards transforming America and the world into a place that we like, a place that is governed according to our principles, we've got to do it your way, James, and not the way that some other people do.
You want to normalize your issues.
You want to normalize your issues and make your issues fashionable to people outside of our difference.
You want to make change.
You're not interested in just being a voice.
You're interested in being an effective voice that changes the texture of society.
Well, I think there's a few different ways to go about, or at least, you know, that people consider to be the ways to go forward.
And that, you know, certainly building our own institutions and media.
Well, we've done that.
I mean, we've done it as well as anybody has ever done it, especially with regards to the media front of that.
I mean, nobody was doing pro-white broadcast media in 2004 when we started.
They didn't come on until about 10 years later.
Now think about it.
All we've done now, you know, we were talking about back when Charlottesville started.
All of our everything that we did basically has become mainstream.
We're going to have a Charlottesville anniversary show in a couple of weeks.
We've got a lot of big stuff coming up on the show the next couple of weeks.
A couple of special programs.
They're all special, but very special.
We'll be right back.
Stay tuned.
We're going to talk about the Confederate Monuments next.
Stay tuned.
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Well, that's one for Congressman Stockman right there.
Let me tell you something.
We had really good seats for that particular show.
So getting back to it, though, let's talk about what we came here this hour to talk about.
National News CNN headline on the matter.
And this is what the story reads: The Trump administration is planning to reinstall two Confederate monuments, following through on a push by President Donald Trump to bring back statues that were removed in the wake of the George Floyd protests.
Hours after the U.S. National Park Service said Monday that it will restore and reinstall a statue of Confederate military officer Albert Pike in Washington, D.C., Keith Alexander, no less.
Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth announced that another Confederate memorial will return to Arlington National Cemetery in Virginia.
This is what Secretary Hegseth said.
This is his quote.
And I quote: I'm proud to announce that Moses Ezekiel's beautiful and historic sculpture, often referred to as the Reconciliation Monument, will be rightfully returned to Arlington National Cemetery near his burial site.
Hegseth said on social media.
It should have never been taken down by woke lemmings.
Unlike the left, we do not believe in erasing American history.
We honor it.
Keith, I, you know, I may be blinded by the truth that certain people can see so readily apparent.
I'm glad this is happening.
I see this as a good thing.
They see it as, well, let's see here.
Goy slop.
It's slop to have these monuments restored because, don't you know, it's just a big trick to have you go and fight in a war for Israel.
But let me tell you something.
I mean, do they really believe that?
Is it, you know, do you really believe that?
And what I mean by that is, do you really believe that because the Trump administration restores Confederate monuments, that all of a sudden young white men are going to say, yes, I want to go fight for Israel now?
I don't think so.
I want, you know, so your options are to have the Confederate monuments not be restored, to have more Confederate monuments taken down, which is what would have happened had anybody else but Trump won, or have them restored.
I don't think, I don't think there's any white man in the country that says, now that these monuments have been restored, I want to go fight for Israel.
I am glad the monuments have been restored, but I will never fight for Israel.
I mean, I'm too old anyway, but my son will never fight for Israel.
I'm not so enamored that these have been restored that I'm going to go do something stupid.
I can separate the two things.
I'm glad the monuments have been restored.
I'm still opposed to any intervention for Israel.
I mean, you know, those two things are separate issues.
One is not connected to the other.
Keith.
Well, I think there are a lot of people out there that think that culture doesn't matter.
Culture does matter.
And this is a cultural issue.
Can you imagine any other Republican?
Could you imagine George H.W. Bush or George W. Bush doing this?
Can you imagine John McCain or Mitt Romney doing something like that?
And they never needed to do this to get wars for Israel started.
So, I mean, I'm just saying.
No, we need to change things back to the way they used to be in the 50s.
I know that's not a popular thing with people in our movement, but back when Confederate monuments were revered generally by the American public, we had a better country.
And thank goodness Trump is willing to do this.
Well, this gets back to what we were talking about before the last break.
Yes, build your own institutions.
Never trust the Republican Party or the establishment media.
Build our own institutions or alternative media.
I have done it.
I have done it as well as it could possibly be done.
And I certainly did it before anybody else in 04.
But this program is still going.
The longest running pro-white program in the world.
But frankly, most people on our side, as I wrote to some friends today, have never had a toehold of access to Washington.
Increasingly, I noticed there are some people in our movement who tend to complain constantly.
Oddly enough, the better the news gets, and stories like this are one example.
The more unhappy they are.
The more, yes, frustrated they seem to become.
And the only thing that truly makes them happy is when Trump does something undeniably bad because that validates their reason for being.
It's a sense of purity spiraling.
And I just don't understand.
It's a society's chronic malcontents.
They want to be in that category.
And that's unfortunately a very ineffective, a feckless category to be in.
I don't understand how we really win more by losing, by getting, as you put it, Keith, our brains bashed in, as happens so often throughout my adult life.
You know, we actually win by losing, and when we win, it's losing, but we just can't, you're not seeing it properly.
I don't believe that.
I think it's like you said before about Sheila Jackson Lee that pat themselves on the back for selling out to Democrats.
Okay, but I mean, and that hopefully is beginning to change.
But I think, you know, the point I'm trying to drive here is that if Trump, we said this at the pre-show, you know, supper last week.
When Trump does something we like, we'll give him credit.
When Trump does something bad, we'll hold him to account.
I mean, what else can we do?
But it's not all bad.
And sometimes good is good.
How many does something good?
We'll give him credit.
Well, how do you ever know if you're actually winning if every time you win, it's just a loss in disguise?
Just don't really understand the mental gymnastics at play here by some of our friends.
Well, let's read here.
This came in from William in South Carolina.
William writes, hello, James and Keith.
Great segment on Return to the Land Movement last weekend.
And, well, he's talking about this, the reconciliation monument has been ordered to be restored in Arlington Cemetery by Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth.
We have been talking about that.
And, well, this is what William writes.
We can talk a lot about what we don't like about Donald Trump, but this certainly wouldn't have happened if he wasn't re-elected.
See, I think, you know, the normal people, and I say normal as sort of like a superlative.
Like, if you're normal and you see things clearly, you know, that's actually, you're extraordinary.
But our audience sees this, I think, you know, by and large, the way we do, that, you know, you'd have to really be creative in your thinking to see how restoring Confederate monuments is actually a bad thing and a loss.
Well, you know what it shows, too.
You know, Kirk Lyons, who is a good friend of this show.
And who will be on sort of in an unannounced cameo appearance later this hour, Kirk coming up.
Well, see, we tried to take on the left's tactics by lawfare.
We thought we're going to come to some resolution that would be good for us through a lawsuit.
We don't need to do that anymore.
We've got a friend in the White House.
All we have to do is get our message.
Sort of.
I mean, I don't know what he really believes and what he really doesn't believe.
But we now have somebody there.
These are winning issues.
And even the most cynical politician will take an issue that he can run and win on.
Well, there's no loss for him on this.
It's a plus.
Furthermore, we need to realize that we now have power.
We're so unused to having power in the White House, in the federal bureaucracy and whatnot, in the deep state, that we don't think of that as an alternative.
And it's now an alternative.
Again, again, restoring these two monuments that were taken down during that frenzy of anti-white hatred.
This is just two of them, but I'm thankful.
These are two that didn't get destroyed like the Lee Monument in Charlottesville.
We're going to have a Charlottesville retrospective in a couple of weeks.
We need to make a law pass that says that if you destroy one of those things, you've committed a felony.
But this thing is, again, good news to me.
I'm thankful for it.
I just, why do I even have to explain that?
And it is a winning issue, and this is the way things are shifting.
No longer the outsiders, we're the insiders.
The whole thing is, does restoring these two monuments guarantee that young white racially aware conservatives or identitarians are going to blindly enlist in the United States Armed Forces?
I just don't see that.
I mean, you would have to believe that that is what they're trying to do and that it will be effective in order to sort of reign on the parade of these two monuments being restored.
I do not think any of that's going to happen.
Okay, so maybe.
I'm very happy that this has happened.
I think that people that try to find a dark cloud in the silver lining are missing the point.
We've got to transform the culture.
This is a way of transforming the culture back.
That's what we need, and we need to celebrate it, and we need to be behind the governmental powers that be.
Why would you condemn everything good that somebody does?
I just, I want to thank Stas, our listener and friend Stas, who sends me so many emails and with some great tips.
Clip I'm going to play here in the next segment from Dr. Michael Hill when he was out campaigning in the defense of a Confederate monument in New Orleans, you know, the Robert E. Lee Monument in New Orleans that once existed there.
You know, all these people who are out there fighting, and you know, Kirk Lyons, you know, another one who's going to be on in just a minute to give his take.
Does he see this as a loss in disguise?
Well, we'll ask a man who's spent his entire life, really, you know, in a way in court fighting this battle.
You know, does he see it as a loss?
We'll find out.
I haven't asked him that yet.
Maybe he does.
I don't think he does, but we'll find out together.
But for Dr. Hill and for all these people who are out there fighting these fights and certainly fighting these fights five, ten, twenty years ago when it was just hopeless.
How's this bad news?
It's not.
Celebrate.
It's okay.
It's okay.
It's the difference between hopeless and hopeful people.
I'll be right back.
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Well, Steve Stockman in that first hour got me thinking about all the good music.
And I think once we do get an ethnostate, we're going to ban any music outside of the 10-year period of 1955 to 1965.
I think that's going to be one of the first things.
I might go up to 66.
Well, we might go into the early 70s in honor of Three Dog Night, but certainly we're not going to go much beyond that.
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This is being Spoken about by a person who is definitely not a boomer.
I was born in 1980.
The Ron Edson is certainly welcome in the ethnostate, too.
But even though they're not, you know, they're all dead.
But the let's go back to the topic at hand, though, and that is these Confederate monuments that are being restored, certainly the Reconciliation Monument and the Albert Pike Monument.
Let me say, very quickly, Keith, about Albert Pike.
Now, he was a very interesting Confederate indeed.
Albert Pike was born in Boston and died in Washington, D.C.
And he was the Confederate Indian Commissioner and military commander of the Indian Territory during the war between the states.
And so that was a very interesting one.
And the reason he is being restored is because that particular area of D.C. is under the jurisdiction of the National Parks Service, as is the, of course, the Reconciliation Monument at Arlington.
And so Trump has the ability to just say to just basically say they're going back up, and then that's it.
You don't have to go through a city council or a state or anything else.
And see, that's such a difference from having to grind things through the court.
The problem with the courts is that the Democrats, whenever they're in power, appoint a lot of judges.
And the ones they appoint are going to be terrible judges.
And you can be Oliver Wendell Holmes and you can be F. Lee Bailey.
You're still not going to get a good result from people like that.
It's like trying to canoe your way up the Niagara Falls.
And so, you know, it's so much better when you've got a sympathetic person in the presidency that is going to take your phone call and say, yeah, we want to do this.
That's right.
Let's put Albert Pike's statue right back up.
And you know what?
On the other hand, if you want to criticize him for everything that he does that doesn't 100% correspond with your outlook on things, he's not going to take your call.
Look, Trump made a big blunder in bombing that facility in Iran, but he didn't go all in.
And I don't think a year from now when the midterms come up, unless something else escalates, that that's going to be a big negative for him or the GOP.
And I don't think the Epstein thing, people are going to forget about that by next year.
It wasn't a good thing, okay?
It wasn't.
I don't like the way he handled that.
But I mean, my God, if you wait for the first thing somebody does that you don't like to withdraw any level of support at all, you're not going to be able to work with anybody.
Anyway, this thing with the Confederate monuments, I do like.
And Michael Hill would have been a great guest to have on tonight.
We're having Kirk Lyons on tonight because he has fought.
Well, it's the bailiwick of both of them, but he specifically fought on behalf of the restoration of the Reconciliation Monument at Arlington.
But Stas, our friend, sent me a clip of Michael Hill battling for the preservation of our monuments back in Louisiana eight years ago.
This is a clip from WWLTV, one of the local network affiliates in New Orleans, interviewing Michael Hill on the ground as the League of the South was fighting to preserve these monuments.
This is a man who is a man among men.
Hang on, here it is.
Tell us why you're out here today, sir.
Well, we're out here today to make a stand to show our support for our Southern inheritance.
And on this particular day, it's this monument.
You see the monument to Lee.
It's a part of our cultural heritage, and we want it to stay.
We understand that most of us can only be here for the day.
But it's a symbolic gesture of standing up for what we believe in, exercising our right to free assembly and free speech.
What about those who say that this is a symbol of hatred?
This is a symbol of a bad past, especially for Ms. Long.
Well, that's your view.
Our views differ.
People have different views on different things.
So I don't deny anyone their view, and I certainly wouldn't try to dissuade them of it, make them be quiet, not be able to publicly assemble and make their views known.
But at the same time, we have what we consider to be a legitimate view, just like you do, and we're here to exercise it.
So people see things differently.
I mean, it's just the way the world is.
Your thoughts on Take 'em Down Nola coming out here to march as well?
Well, I don't really know that much about Take 'em Down Nola.
I just know that it's a group that wants to take down the monuments.
But other than that, I don't have any idea who they are.
For those who may be out here, I'm on inciting violence.
What would you say tonight?
Let's repeat the question.
For those who are out here who are just here to spark violence or to insinuate violence, what would you say?
Oh, no.
What we need to do is we need to stand here and we need to have our say, exercise our rights to assembly and free speech, and pretty much do what the police and the state and local police have us do, and that is to abide by their law and to abide by their directions, as long as it doesn't impede our right to free speech or free assembly, of course.
But to defend ourselves is necessary.
But the key word there is defend.
You know, we don't advocate starting anything with anybody.
We advocate our ideas.
We push our ideas.
And if people don't like our ideas and want to attack us because of our ideas, we'll defend ourselves.
And most of our guys are military and law enforcement, so we know how to do that.
But we're out here for a peaceful afternoon of exercising our rights.
Thank you so much, Secretary.
Sure.
Where are you from?
So Michael Hill is just, we call him chief because, well, you know, we love Michael.
He has been on the show so many times.
He's spoken at so many TPC events.
The way he appointed himself at the Charlottesville Civil Trial, I've never seen, personally, seen or heard a more quintessential display of courage under fire.
And a natural born leader as well.
He is, and he looks like a Viking warlord and proud to call him a friend and a comrade.
And so tonight is for all of the people who have fought, who have suffered, who have languished.
And for these Confederate monuments being restored, you know, this is for you.
And we'll talk to Michael about this soon, I'm sure.
But tonight we're going to be talking with Kirk about it because of his fights in the courtroom.
But I wanted to be sure, and thank you, Stas, for sending that over.
I wanted to be sure to get Michael Hill's voice at least on record.
I mean, these people have been fighting.
TPC cut its teeth, Keith, fighting these battles.
Certainly the Confederate monuments in 2005, stopping Al Sharpton's march when we planned that vigil in 05 along with Bill Brolin.
I mean, this is how we, you know, TPC got off the launch pad.
Well, what we need to do now is so that the next time that the Democrats have control of the government, they're not next time.
Well, let's assume that they are.
Well, let me finish.
Let me finish this.
Here's what we need to do.
We need to prevent them from destroying these statues.
need to have a law passed that says that if you destroy a commemorative statue that's in a public place you have committed a felony and that you'll go to jail for a long time if you do it well they a lot of laws on that in these various states but well they apparently didn't have one in richmond or else the mayor of richmond virginia would be behind bars now which is really where he belongs Here's another thing that we like to say, Keith, that I would bring up again.
We've said it before on the program more than a handful of occasions.
I'm not telling you that Trump is our guy, but he's not our guy on a lot of things.
More our guy than anyone else that has been in the Oval Office since before World War II.
Here's this.
How about this?
This was sent in from a member of our production team, Jay, and our production staff.
Big news here.
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The article reads, President Donald Trump's new executive order guaranteeing fair banking for all Americans will penalize debanking and prevent discrimination from financial institutions.
I know there are people out there smarter than me that sees this as being goy slop, and you're an idiot to think that this is anything other than bad news.
Nobody has been debanked except for us.
Kevin McDonald emailed me right before the show tonight.
I hadn't even responded to him yet.
I mean, I just got the email.
He said, James, do you think that we can get credit card processing again now as a result of this?
I don't know.
We're going to try.
Wouldn't it be great to be able to take credit card contributions?
Only white racialists have been debanked.
There is nobody on the left that's been debanked, okay?
This is good news.
And keep, my God, only Trump would have done this.
Right.
Nobody since before Franklin Roosevelt would have even thought about doing something to help people in our situation.
So my goodness, if you can't recognize that you've got a friend in the White House compared to what's passed before, then you just are obtaining.
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The planet does not need for us to think globally and act locally so much as it needs us to think family and act personally.
The solution to so many of our problems at all times and in all places is to fall in love, get married, and have some kids.
I can't live without you.
One more for Congressman Stockman from the first hour.
Congressman Stockman and I love the oldies.
And boy, that's the good stuff right there.
Nothing but the best here on TPC.
And continuing in that vein, our friend, man, a lion of the courtroom, Kirk Lyons himself, the co-founder and chief trial counsel for the Southern Legal Resource Center.
That is, of course, as you know, from all the years Kirk has been on with us, a nonprofit public law corporation that offers legal support to defend First Amendment violations, violations of civil rights, and discrimination against advocates of Southern heritage.
He has fought in the court probably more than any other attorney for the restoration and defense of Confederate monuments and memorials.
So, you know, when we have him on tonight, right now, just for one segment, he's on the road tonight and had limited window of availability, especially on short notice.
But his opinion carries weight on this matter.
Kirk, you have specifically fought in court for the restoration of the reconciliation monument.
How are you receiving the news of the last few days?
Well, we are very hopeful that and very pleased that that has happened.
We were pursuing the legal avenues of appeal, and we made a pretty important decision that we were not going to appeal the dismissal of our case from the Circuit Court of Appeals to the Supreme Court of the United States because we didn't think that the court would take it.
They just, frankly, this Supreme Court wouldn't hear us.
And that would be a waste of about $15,000 in appeal costs.
So we were following up on another lawsuit to stop the transfer of the memorial from the Army to Virginia.
And instead, we decided, well, before we file that, let's try the political card.
Let's get our support base to contact their Congress critter and contact Heg Seth and contact Trump and contact Governor Young of Virginia and tell him, hey, give it back to the Army, restore the thing, the memorial to Arlington while this administration can do so.
And when we heard that Albert Pike, General Confederate General Albert Pike monument was going to be restored, we were cautiously optimistic that maybe the Reconciliation Memorial in Arlington National Cemetery might be next.
And sure enough, it was.
And fortunately, I was sitting down when I got the news.
But there are some problems with the transfer.
It's a 50-year loan from Virginia to the Army, and they're not going to put it back up till 2027.
So we're not done yet.
The fighting is not over and we can't take anything for granted.
We hope that Hegseth can do it with the governor of Virginia.
We're down here in Columbia.
Governor Hegseth came down here to give us, test the waters for a primary run.
And so we were here to encourage him to give it back to the Army.
But once they announced that that's what they want to do, we were here to thank him.
So we went down to the Columbia Convention Center where Youngkin is speaking tonight, and we wanted to make sure he knew we were there to thank him for what he did.
And we had two billboards up for him to see as he got off the airplane to drive to the center of town.
And we were there with a 20-foot banner and about 20 people to welcome him and thank him for working with the Army to put the Reconciliation Memorial back.
But we're waiting for the Bolsheviks to drop the other booth.
They're not done with this.
And they're probably going to come after the plan to restore it to Arlington.
And of course, they're coming after Heckseth.
So we need to stay vigilant and see what the next move will be and see maybe if we can speed up the return of the memorial to Arlington.
Yeah, well, Kirk, this is Keith Alexander.
You and I are both lawyers.
I think there are a lot of people out there that think there's some type of black magic involved in court cases.
Let me tell you, when you have Democrats sitting on the bench, it's like trying to paddle a canoe up Niagara Falls.
And it's a topic.
You're absolutely right.
And as a result, rather than going the judicial way, use the executive and use the legislature.
All right.
Here it is, Kirk.
I mean, this is the million-dollar question.
No one in their right mind could deny your bona fides in terms as a partisan for our cause, racially, culturally, and with regards to Southern heritage, especially.
So when you speak, I listen.
And anyone else who knows your history and your past and your involvement should listen.
Do you see this as, I mean, I know the answer already from what you've already said.
Do you see this as a win?
Because there are some people who say, you know, this is just a trick to get us to go to war.
This is, you know, goy slop.
This is something, this is actually a loss for us.
You just don't see it yet.
Do you see that, Kirk?
I mean, do you have those?
I see it as an imperfect but tactical victory.
And if we stop now, then probably we'll lose ground.
But we got to keep going.
This, like I said, we should take a victory lap, slap each other on the back, enjoy the coffee and donuts, and then start moving back up to the trenches.
I've got another idea for us.
I'm going to tell you what it is and keep going.
Make it a better victory.
Well, Kirk, I've got another idea for us, okay?
And this is what I think we ought to do.
We ought to think about getting a law passed that says that it is a felony to destroy or deface one of these monuments.
And so that, for example, if the Democrats get back in charge and they take down a Confederate monument, it won't be destroyed like we are on Monument Avenue in Richmond.
You know, I'd like to see the mayor of Richmond behind bars.
That's wonderful, Keith, except as you know, the Tennessee state legislature had very much such a law, and the city of Memphis violated it and full stop with removing Confederate, not only forced his monument, but his grave.
But then on the other hand, that's because of a lack of will on the part of the people in the legislature to pursue it with the Attorney General.
Now, if you've got the lawyers pursued in every state legislature, as well as the federal government, exactly.
That is something we can do to prevent them melting down the thing like they did in Richmond.
All right.
Well, that was in Charlottesville.
But, all right.
So, all right, Kirk, final word to you.
Normally, when we have you on, it's for 30 minutes or an hour.
You're on the road tonight.
You're at this event.
You just shared with us that you're on a cell phone.
So, we had you for a limited availability tonight, but I am thankful to wrap up this hour with a segment featuring you, brother.
Final word on all of this: the restoration of the Reconciliation Monument and the Albert Pike Monument in Washington, D.C., no less.
I mean, I think that's ironic and interesting.
Final word to you on all of this.
Well, we need to look at it as a tactical victory and keep going.
We need to build a shield around the Confederate section in Arlington, and we need to be prepared to pass the torch to our children because this is a 50-year loan.
I won't be around in 50 years, and then our children need to be ready to pass it down to my grandkids.
We need to stay on it, stay with it, and get more political, you know, because this is a combined arms fight.
It's legal, political, and social.
It's legal, it's executive, and it's legislature.
Kirk, do you see this as a pro-white?
Do you see this as a pro-white partisan?
As a pro-white partisan, as someone who is fighting on behalf of our people and our nation, do you see this as a good thing as it stands now?
I do.
I do.
Because if the more we can widen the breach and protect that monument, the more friends we can make in the rest of the country, what I call true reconciliation.
We could really bury the hatchet and smoke the peace pipe among our other brothers around the country that don't happen to be blessed by being born in the South.
Hey, you've been fighting these fights for more years than I've been alive.
And people, you deserve the support of the folks.
How can people find out more about your work in the courts and elsewhere?
The Southern Legal Resources Center.
What's your website?
You can, for Arlington information, you go to defendarlington.org.
And the SLRC, we're on Facebook.
Always like to hear from you there.
And you can reach us at www.slrc-csa.org if you want to make a tax-deductible donation.
You can always call me at 828-712-2115, or you can email me, which is probably the best way.
I'm a boomer, remember.
It's KDL, my initial, at slrc-csa.org.
And I'd love to hear from any of y'all out there that are listening.
And we'll find work for you to do and ways you can help.
You got it, my friend.
And thank you.
I know you're on the road tonight.
And thank you for coming on with us.
It was a good idea.
Sorry, Mr. Call yesterday.
It was always good.
Sorry, I missed your call yesterday, but glad we could talk on the radio tonight.
And I'm glad we all have something to celebrate tonight.