March 1, 2025 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
Ladies and gentlemen, tonight kicks off our annual March Around the World series, this annual bit of broadcasting that we give you each and every March.
And for the next five weeks, and it couldn't come at a more timely time, for the next five weeks, we're going to be checking out and checking in with leaders and elected officials from different European nations as we seek to discover how our kinsmen are faring throughout the Western world.
But as you know, since January 20th and really even the week before the inauguration with Lou Moore and Congressman Steve King, Jared Taylor was on that particular program, I believe.
And ever since January the 20th, we have been talking with our counterparts here in the United States about their reactions to Trump.
I think this is going to be a very interesting march around the world this year as we find out how folks throughout Western civilization, from Canada to Australia, Europe, and points in between, are receiving this news and how their nations may be reacting.
So we're punching your ticket to the United Kingdom right now with Nick Griffin.
And there is not a guest I would rather have kick off this year's installment of March Around the World than our good friend and the former member of the European Parliament, former leader of the British National Party during its heyday, the one and only Nick Griffin live from the UK tonight in the early morning hour of midnight, Sunday time, his time.
Nick, thank you for being with us.
How are you?
I'm fine.
Thank you, James.
It's a pleasure to be with you, as always.
As always, indeed.
And one of the things we're going to be talking with Nick about in just a moment, and in fact, we'll probably be talking about this for the next couple of weeks, was yesterday's summit, if you can call it that at the Oval Office between Donald Trump and Vladimir Zelensky.
But before we get there, and I can't wait to hear Nick's take on that, I want to first go back to JD Vance's speech in Munich.
Because Nick Griffin, who is a writer for the American Free Press and not just a writer, I mean really one of the highlights.
I tell Nick every time I see the American Free Press, I scan through the entire paper to find his articles first.
And in the issue coming out right now, it's the March 3rd and 10th issue of American Free Press.
The headline reads, JD Vance's Valentine's Day massacre leaves EU dumbfounded and seething.
This is what Nick Griffin writes.
I'm just going to read the first two paragraphs.
As the great and not at all good European Union representatives packed into the main auditorium at the Munich Security Conference to hear JD Vance, they were, according to ultra-liberal online newspaper The Guardian, eagerly expecting Vance to deliver the big security questions from our time from Ukraine and Russia to China and the Middle East.
Instead, Nick writes, the U.S. Vice President launched an extraordinarily outspoken and searingly accurate attack on liberal Europe for abandoning the values of democracy by erecting firewalls to exclude popular and elected parties from government fearing their own peoples and purposefully destroying free speech.
His brutal expose of liberal hypocrisy and tyranny was delivered to an audience which looked for all the world as uncomfortable and guilty as naughty schoolchildren receiving a severe reprimand from the principal.
The Guardian, which builds itself as the world's liberal leading voice, described the speech as a genuinely shocking moment, which left the room dumbfounded and seething.
Now, that's a great take, Nick, but it is particularly interesting to me coming from you, and I'll tell the audience why.
From time to time, Nick and I will be talking or texting about something, and I'll say, Nick, you know, what's going on?
Because he's got his fingers to the pulse of all the nationalist parties in Europe.
I say, I'm seeing all these good things about this party.
They're this, they're that.
The media's attacking them.
He says, Yes, James, it's all well and good, if only it were true.
Meaning that some of these parties that are made to appear as though they are really right-wing and going after and doing good work, that's not always the case.
So, when I see you, Nick, praising JD Vance's speech, that made me perk up and listen.
Ah, right.
Yep, good stuff.
It was an absolutely astounding speech, James.
It really was.
And possibly Americans not understanding, as you couldn't, you know, overall, exactly the political climate over here, may not grasp the full extent of just what a shock this was to the liberal elite.
You know, for 70 years now, they've had no one, apart from a handful of people they dismiss as monsters such as myself, has stood up and simply told them the truth.
I simply said, You know, you're the emperor, you haven't got any clothes on.
And JD Vance went in there and he just ripped them to shreds.
He particularly hammered the point.
He said that the great danger to Europe is not Russia or China, it's you lot.
You're the ones destroying your traditions and so on.
It was a most amazing thing.
Now, some of what the Trump Vance ticket and so on are doing, particularly in the Middle East, fills me with horror.
But I've got to say, in fair play to them, that on many other things, such as dealing with the trans nonsense, such as sacking so many leftist bureaucrats, and especially this rapid move away from the edge of World War III, which Biden and co-taken us to, and a rapprochement with Russia, and slamming the liberal elite from the hypocrites and morons they are.
It really is something astounding, and it's a pleasure to watch.
All right, fast-forwarding from there, and we did touch on that, I believe it was last week.
And so, people should be at least somewhat familiar, if not well familiar, with JD Vance's performance in Munich.
And that sets the stage, though, I think, Nick, in a way, with what happened yesterday.
So, I mean, that was something, you know, that's something you don't see every day, something like that.
And you have people saying on our side that that meeting may have by itself recalibrated the 80-year order since the post-World War II era.
And, of course, Zelensky now is back, interestingly, hugging, getting a hug from Kier Stormer, trying to dry the tears from his cheek.
He's over there with you in the UK getting hugs, but no money.
So, what did you make yesterday?
We've given all of ours to him, too, I think.
So, we'll break this down.
I'm going to play a clip from it in just a second when we can get it queued up.
But, Nick, why don't you, in case people were on a rock or under a rock yesterday, what happened in Washington and your thoughts on the potential significance of it?
I think what we saw in Washington was probably the beginning of the end of NATO, which is a wonderful thing for Europe and Britain, who for ever since the end of the Second World War have basically been just puppets for the American deep state.
And it's also a wonderful thing.
Even better thing for America.
Exactly.
It's a wonderful thing for America to stop having to send your boys and these days girls and gold to police an ungrateful world.
All right.
I'm going to play here very quickly a two-minute clip.
It was longer than that, obviously, and it was supposed to be longer still.
Zelensky was actually waiting in a room outside of the Oval Office for a separate meeting that was supposed to deal with the potential mineral rights in the Ukraine.
And Secretary of State Marco Rubio, after this Oval Office showdown, they went over to the adjacent room and told him there would be no second meeting and he could go ahead and leave.
Though people are saying they kicked him out, but basically Trump refused to meet for the remainder of the meeting that was scheduled.
Let's see if I can get this queued up at a level where you can hear it.
This is just two minutes.
This is JD Vance.
And this is President Trump and Zelensky.
And I think I've got the volume good enough here.
Yes, but if you're not going to be able to do it.
With respect, I think it's disrespectful for you to come to the Oval Office and try to litigate this in front of the American media.
Right now, you guys are going around and forcing conscripts to the front lines because you have manpower problems.
You should be thanking the president for bringing into this conversation.
Have you ever been to Ukraine?
Did you say what problems we have?
I have been to come once.
I've actually watched and seen the stories, and I know what happens is you bring people, you bring them on a propaganda tour, Mr. President.
Do you disagree that you've had problems bringing people into your military?
We have problems.
And do you think that it's respectful to come to the Oval Office of the United States of America and attack the administration that is trying to prevent the destruction of your country?
A lot of questions.
Let's start from the beginning.
Sure.
First of all, during the war, everybody has problems.
Even you.
But you have nice ocean and don't feel now.
But you will feel it in the future.
God bless you.
You don't know that.
God bless you.
God bless.
You're not here.
Don't tell us what we're going to feel.
We're trying to solve a problem.
Don't tell us what we're going to feel.
I'm not telling you.
Because you're in no position to dictate that.
Remember this.
You're in no position to dictate what we're going to feel.
We're going to feel very good.
We're going to feel very good and very strong.
You're right now not in a very good position.
You've allowed yourself to be in a very good position.
And he happens to be right about it.
From the very beginning of the war.
You're not in a good position.
You don't have the cards right now.
With us, you start having cards.
Right now, you don't wear your friends.
I don't wear it.
You're gambling with the lives of millions of people.
You're gambling with World War III.
You're gambling with World War III.
And what you're doing is very disrespectful to the country, this country.
I'm not sure what to do far more than a lot of people said they should have.
Have you said thank you once?
A lot of times.
No, even though you're not here, you said thank you.
Even today.
You went to Pennsylvania and campaigned for the opposition in October.
Offer some words of appreciation for the United States of America and the president who's trying to save your country.
Donald Trump, of course, went on after that and said that it's going to be very difficult to do business with you.
And so, Nick, your reaction to that, there was more to it than that.
But as you, I mean, to hear you say, again, a man who has served at some of the highest levels of government in Europe, a member of the European Parliament, for you to say this could be the beginning of the end of NATO, continue on to elaborate your thoughts on this experience.
For all years.
Well, it's that the, particularly in Britain, the whole relationship with the United States has been sold by the mass media, by the political elite, as being something really special.
Now, without any disrespect to Americans, the simple fact is that in the First World War, the people running and ruining America, their war aim was the destruction of all the European empires, and they destroyed half of them.
And in the Second World War, which they also helped to, with other people, of course, which they helped to provoke and push, their war aim was the destruction of the French and the British empires, in which they succeeded.
And we ended up after that, you know, with this thing which posed as an alliance of equals, but which was actually the Europeans and the British being absolutely the lapdogs of the people ruining the United States.
And it's just coming to a crashing halt.
And Zelensky now turning up after this staggering thing yesterday, you know, with Starma and Starmer hugging him.
All that, if that has any effect at all on Trump and Vance, it's just got to make them even more hostile to Starma and the Europeans than they were before.
So the whole thing, I think, has reached a point where it's spiring out of control.
And I think the two are in such a head-on clash, the liberals of Europe, which includes Britain, and Trump and Vance, that I cannot see anything, any way out of this for any of them other than this woeful alliance finally coming apart at the seams.
Well, what they need to do is learn from the Jews.
If you want to control America, there needs to be some money attached.
And of course, that's the last thing that is on the minds of these European government leaders.
They have everything, have a lot of advice to give, but no money.
Well, this is, you bring up an interesting thing, Keith, that I would ask Nick about.
And there are some people, Nick, I'm sure you know them, and I'm not saying that they're bad people and not even necessarily that they're wrong, although I will say that I disagree, that everything that we have ever seen in life is just a stage-managed production.
That all of this was planned out and that people are behind the scenes are maneuvering these people, these world leaders, in ways that they would want.
And even when things look good, it's not really good.
And I think, you know, I just don't buy that.
I do believe there are powerful ethnic interests, but I do not believe that they control everything, every action, every word on the world stage.
And I think, you know, listen, I'm looking at this, and sometimes it really is just this simple.
The simplest answer being the correct one.
Vladimir Zelensky is very diminutive.
He was sitting in a very defensive pose during this meeting with his arms crossed the whole time at his chest.
I think that Trump does not respect him.
I think that, by the way, if you don't know this, the Trump administration team, their communications team, advised Zelensky, I don't know at what point before the meeting, hours or days, but well in advance, to wear a suit.
And he still showed up in his pajamas, you know, like he's a commando or whatever.
And I think that rubbed Trump the wrong way.
And I think sometimes, Nick, it's trivial things like that that just cause things to derail and change history.
Yeah, I agree absolutely.
On a personal level, when I was running the British National Party, I used to get sometimes people, or here are people, analyzing to death all sorts of things and coming up with all sorts of reasons, conspiracy reasons for why something was happening.
And this was just nonsense.
And very often, people who have no power, there's a human desire to make sense of things because we're supposed to analyze our surroundings.
It gives you more chance of surviving when there's saber-the tigers out there prowling through the Arctic wilderness at the ice age.
So we're supposed to look for patterns.
And as a result, people look for patterns and find them when they're not there.
I subscribe quite a lot.
Yes, obviously there are very powerful interest groups out there who manipulate things.
But very often there's a cock-up, there's a disaster, and they work to find a way to take advantage of that.
It doesn't mean they caused the disaster in the first place.
So I agree with you entirely.
Coming back to this issue, I think what we've got is that Zelensky is not particularly bright.
He was chosen because he's a good puppet.
He's had three years of pure sycophancy, and no one has challenged him.
And all of a sudden, bang, he's there as basically a child amongst children, and now he's amongst a bunch of grown-ups.
And it didn't end well for him, did it?
Well, could you believe, Nick, that he actually owns up to the fact that he doesn't know where half of the money that America sent to him went or what it was used on?
And we're supposed to have confidence in him and his leadership.
It's staggering, isn't it?
For that matter, he could have gone into that meeting.
He could have worn a suit.
It would have been sensible.
And he could have pushed the idea that the deal for, what was it, $500 billion was contingent, as it would be, on him surviving as the president.
And the only way he could survive to give Trump the deal that he wanted was to go home with something.
Otherwise, he's going to be overthrown.
If he'd approached it that way, he surely would have a sort of chance of getting a deal.
Well, he had to come, has to be elected again.
And he is doing everything he can to avoid an election.
Well, that's what Nick's saying.
Nick, that's actually a very interesting observation you just made.
So if he's facing re-election, he went home after being frankly embarrassed on a global scale.
I know that some of the left-wing European media and some of the left-wing European leaders are coddling him and trying to tell him it's going to be okay.
But I don't know.
I don't think he – I don't think – I certainly don't think Trump came across looking bad after this.
No, sure.
Show me the money, basically.
It's more than facing an election.
It's more than facing an election.
If he goes back with nothing and America pulls the plug, whatever deal he's done, if he had done with Trump for such a vast sum of money, he's going to get shot, literally shot in some kind of coup, unless he went home with something.
And he could have sold it on that basis, made no attempt.
Instead, he got himself into a shouting match with Trump.
Just staggeringly stupid, I think.
That's just one of those things in history.
Of course, he's not particularly bright.
He's a puppet.
And it's come under roost now.
And as a result, our world is changing in ways that we couldn't possibly have imagined.
We're going to get into the broader spectrum of potential changes.
I mean, Nick, as we've been saying here, it's like trying to drink the news out of a fire hose since late January in this country with all of the changes.
Radical.
I mean, fundamental change.
I mean, what you're talking about here is a 180-degree fundamental change from American policy towards Russia.
And this is just one issue where we are.
Seemingly making these changes across a wide variety, almost all of the issues, really.
But let me ask you this while we're still on this.
We're going to take a break.
We're going to come back and talk with Nick Griffin about other things going on in Europe, some elections over there, and just a wider variety of topic outside of Russia and Ukraine, which has dominated the first hour, but rightfully so in light of yesterday's news.
How is Putin feeling this weekend?
I imagine he's feeling vindicated and even more confident than before.
You already knew about the war.
I haven't heard any reports.
the liberal media that i've heard are just so shell-shocked with this and they're purely concentrating on trump because of course they utterly hate trump um so they're not really sorry say again I said, I tuned into TASS and listened to him.
They basically said that the way they summarized it was that Trump told Zelensky, you're not interested in peace.
Come back when you're ready to discuss a peace.
Certainly.
Yeah.
No, I think that Putin has done what he had to do.
He now knows that he's won, and he also has a man in Trump with whom he can deal.
And perhaps now he's finds someone who is agreement capable.
The Russian position for the last few years has been that the entire West is incapable of making and sticking to an agreement, of sticking to a deal.
And I think that Peter will now be approaching Trump.
He's not a friend, of course not.
Their countries have quite significantly different agendas in various areas.
They're going to rub up against each other in places.
But I think now you've got two grown-ups who are capable of hammering out a deal and sticking to it, and that will make our world a much safer place.
And one other thing, Nick, he's found that it really does make a big difference who is the president of the United States.
It certainly does.
So I guess that's an invitation for him to get more involved in our politics.
But on the other hand, he's right.
It was absolutely hopeless to try to reach some type of rapprochement with Biden and the Democrats.
Absolutely so.
And you had to wonder to what extent is this actually, if there's a cynical, dangerous thing in it, it's that there will be an element of the American power elite who've decided that the real enemy is China.
Therefore, they've got to try and Trump said this himself.
They've got to try and prize Russia and China apart.
So therefore, they're making a reproachment with Russia because in due course they want to go to war with China, which would be equally bonkers.
But on the other hand, there's Trump saying to he wants to talk to the Chinese and the Russians about everyone cutting their armaments by half.
So then all that money could be spent on something worthwhile for a change.
So I do begin to think, I was very question about Trump to start with, to be honest with you.
His first time in, he might have done some good in America at home, but abroad he really did nothing apart from perhaps avoiding creating a new war.
But we seem to have a totally different man this time around, and it seems to be changing history, as I say, before our very eyes.
Well, you have focused on China as being the alternative to Ukraine.
I think that the real alternative he's trying to free America up for is what Netanyahu is going to want him to do in the Middle East.
I think that's, you know, Jewish power and influence controls both American domestic and foreign policy.
And I was listening to Jeffrey Sachs, the American professor, today, and that's basically his message to all of Europe.
You know, if you want to understand American foreign policy, understand what the Jews want.
Well, but this is again, though, that the point is, it's impossible for something to be good for the Jews and also good for whites.
I mean, that is an open question.
That's not a sarcastic question.
That's not a rhetorical question.
And in this case, I mean, they being certainly one of the most powerful ethnic lobbies in America and the world, that also means good things aren't really happening.
Good things are happening.
And listen, I mean, Nick, as you mentioned, you were a skeptic of Trump and certainly more so a few months and years ago.
You and I have talked about this.
Is he winning you over with some of these actions?
Is he causing you to re-won me over with what he's doing here?
I certainly don't think that I cannot see any coincidence of the interests of the illegal Zionist state of Israel and the people of Europe, because if they get their way and Trump does help them to destroy Iran and further demolish the Middle East, all we're going to get in Europe is millions and millions and millions of very angry Muslim refugees.
And that isn't in our interests at all.
Do you see that happening, though, with the fact that they're cutting defense spending by 8% a year for the next five years, 40% basically in the Trump term?
Indeed, not.
I mean, on the sort of, if I'm being charitable, I would say that people who would like Trump doesn't stand up to Netanyahu and the Zionist lobby, call them out for what they are and all the rest of it.
Do they really think he'd have got elected?
Do they really think that he'd stay in power?
Do they really think that's possible?
You know, the man is a businessman.
He's a sensible politician.
Politics is the art of the possible.
And I don't actually think you could come to power and hold power in America without at least playing footse with the Zionist lobbyist.
That's simple and brutal and unfortunate as that.
That is exactly what I was saying last night.
Exactly.
Basically, I said, it's like, you want to be a boxer or professional boxer?
You don't want to have your first bout against Mike Tyson.
Well, you made that analogy, but you even said today that, listen, he understands that he's got to deal with them being as powerful as they are to get some things done.
It's exactly as Nick said.
If you go at them head-on, and I know we're about to come up on a break first.
But then he wouldn't have been elected.
I mean, that's exactly, Nick, that's exactly right.
It really is just that clear, folks.
I mean, it's not dismissing what and who this interest group is, but it's also, I mean, are we better off than we would have been with Kabula?
I mean, come on, are we even asking that seriously anymore?
We'll be right back.
Nick Rippen will be right back from the UK in five minutes.
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White House wants an immediate ceasefire between Ukraine and Russia and warning Ukrainian leader Vladimir Zelensky to make peace or else lose American support.
Here's correspondent Ken Lorman.
President Trump says he believes Russian President Vladimir Putin, who launched the invasion of Ukraine three years ago, is now ready for a peace deal.
Statement came after Mr. Trump and Vice President JD Vance criticized Zelensky for being disrespectful in an extraordinary Oval Office meeting that abruptly called off the signing of a minerals deal with the U.S. Ken Lohrman reporting.
In the meantime, Zelensky says Ukraine will not enter peace talks with Russia until it has the security guarantees against another offensive.
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When the president flew to Florida on Friday evening, Air Force One was carrying some extra cargo.
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In a statement, the president said justice finally won out and that the items will someday be part of the Trump presidential library.
He was ultimately indicted on charges of hoarding classified records and obstructing the FBI, but the case was dismissed last summer.
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Let's play to London, steven on runway number five.
Let's play to London and I'm missing him.
That's David of My Kicking off our march around the world this hour, right now, five weeks this month, starting it in the ancestral homeland of so many of us here in the United States, the British Isles, the United Kingdom, and boy, where won't we go over the course of this month?
I mean, tonight alone, we're going to Canada next, and then the third hour, making some surprise stops, some layovers in Puerto Rico and Brazil with guests from those ports of call next week.
Wow, I mean, we're talking sounds like a lot of people.
We don't have anybody scheduled from Spitzbergen.
We're going to be on several different continents and many different nations before the end of this month.
But always honored to have Nick Griffin on for any reason.
It's always a dynamite show.
I wake up on days like this and I see Nick Griffin on the schedule and I say to myself, I don't have to do this.
I get to do this.
And by the way, be sure to check Nick out as well in the American Free Press, AmericanFreePress.net, where he is just an incredible contributor, talking about health a lot, interestingly, talking about health a lot, but of course, European politics and much more.
And, Nick, I want to go back to JD Vance for just a second, and then we'll talk about more things happening in Europe, because that is, of course, the focal point of this month's special series.
But Jason Kessler, a friend of ours, wrote this week after yesterday's theatrics at the White House that JD Vance is the undisputed frontrunner to succeed Trump.
I've been critical of him in the past, Jason writes, but it seems that he is peaking at this moment.
His commanding presence on the national and international stage have marked him out as a man of destiny.
Do you think that that is too much praise?
Did we lose Vince?
There he is.
Actually, I don't suggest you replay it, but if people go back to that clip you played before and listen to Trump and Vance dealing with Zelensky, and Donald Trump there, to a degree, I think he possibly is just genuinely annoyed with the man.
He's turned up disrespecting, he's wearing scruffy clothes, etc., etc.
And Trump is clearly angry.
Fair enough, and he's just got a temper.
But Vance in that is so clinical.
I won't say he's sort of bare-baiting the man, but he's clinical, he's sharp, and he's playing a very he played a very key role in that exchange.
And I think I read his book several years ago before I had any idea he might become an important figure in American politics.
And he'll be a elegy.
It's a very fine book.
The man comes from an incredible, genuinely rough background.
He really is the American dream made good.
But I think he's going to be a very powerful figure.
I think I said before the election, actually, I don't know if I was on your show, I said on one, that I thought now that they wouldn't assassinate Trump after he escaped the first time around, because if they did, they just get Vance.
And actually, Vance would be even worse from their point of view, because the man is clearly more ideological.
Now, I do think, I'm not sucking up to him, I think he's got Christian Zionists probably running through him like the words black ball in a stick of sweet candy rock.
But that's just the nature of that's what that's the nature of the beast.
It's what he is.
He can't help it.
But in everything else, I think he's potentially going to be an exceptional figure in American politics for what, the next 15 years or so, perhaps.
Something quite remarkable there.
Well, also, you notice Trump lost his temper, but Vance didn't.
Vance stayed objective and rationalized.
That's what he was just saying.
Hey, what there was a good cop, bad cop routine going on there a little bit too.
Perhaps so.
And another thing, just before we sort of move, perhaps move on from this altogether, is just during the break there, I was looking at the headlines in the British papers, and Starmer is now, it's said that Starmer is tomorrow going to host France, Germany, Italy, all the European powers in Inverted Commerce at a crisis meeting.
So Starmer's basically setting himself up as an alternative leader to Trump.
You know, this is a man in charge of a completely bankrupt, ridiculous little state.
And he's the most unpopular prime minister that Britain's ever had right now after just a few months.
And there he is, setting himself up to go head-to-head for control of the Western world with Donald Trump.
You know, that is not going to resonate well at the White House, is it?
It really isn't.
And furthermore, you've now got senior conservatives, so the whole of the British political elite saying the proposed state visit, which is what got Neo Starmer such a good reception in the White House because he turned up with a letter from the King in his pocket, and Trump mistakenly thinks that our kings are wonderful.
So they're now saying we've got to cancel this state visit because Donald Trump's turned against the wonderful Zelensky.
So the whole of the British political elite is committing Harry Kiry in front of our very eyes.
It's something astounding to behold.
Well, what about this, though, Dick?
We know that Trump is not popular with the elites in Europe, including Starmer.
What about the people of England?
What do they think?
Quite a few Brits have, to a degree, taken on board the pro-Zelensky or more the anti-Russian thing.
You know, we were on the front, especially older people, we were on the front line against the Reds for decades, and it still rings to a degree.
There's this distrust of Russia.
So quite a few have taken up with that.
But at the same time, you ask anybody, do you want to pay taxes for that war?
No.
Will you send your son and daughter to that war?
Hell no.
Starmer's got a 17-year-old brat.
Send him.
So there's this loose and stupid sympathy for Zelensky in Ukraine because it's ignorant.
But that doesn't translate in any way to the idea that Britain should be involved in that quarrel.
All right.
This actually brings me to something that I'm going to ask of many of our guests this month as we check the pulse around the world.
And I agree with Nick Griffin.
I agree with a man who is as seasoned as any activist, elected official, partisan for our cause, as you are likely to find when he says things are changing, but I mean really changing.
For so long, for better and almost exclusively worse throughout my lifetime, it seems as though a lot of Europe will follow the lead of Washington, of the United States.
I know that there is this resistance right now that you see manifest in Keir Starmer, but do you think that, I mean, just as Trump wasn't, not to say nearly as effective in his first term, but perhaps not frankly effective really much at all, and you see him coming back now like this, is there a chance that Europe follows this lead four or eight years down the road if this is the way America goes?
I think it's now, it's not a chance, James.
I think it's now virtually a certainty that this has broken a log jam.
And I'm not saying that Europe is about to turn full-scale ethno-nationalist as we want it to.
It's not.
But Europe is going to get, I think, in country after country, a huge surge of, you could call it populist, you could call it kosher nationalist.
I don't care what you call it, but it is different to what we've had.
And it won't be as bad as what we've had.
Perhaps it'll be better.
It certainly won't be as bad.
So whether it's Germany with the AFD, whether it's Britain with reform and Nigel Farage, these parties, these new groups are going to take such, not just themselves, but taking comfort, but they will get so much extra support because the public are looking at what Trump is doing and thinking, well, this is just fantastic.
When are we going to get it here?
And that's the feeling that is now sweeping across the whole of Europe at the grassroots.
I was in a butcher's shop the other day buying a nice piece of steak for my birthday.
I'm 66.
Would you believe that?
Will you believe that?
And the butcher and several of the staff were saying they were watching the television last night and it's such a breath of fresh air, what Trump was doing.
It's fantastic.
When are we going to get that here?
And that feeling is sweeping the whole of Europe.
Yeah, you can see that.
I mean, yes, I mean, it's the new trendy fashion.
And normally we're importing European fashions when it comes to clothing and things like that.
Maybe this will be a political fashion that goes the opposite way.
Go, Keith.
Well, the other thing that may come of it, it will maybe unmask the complete fecklessness of the European elite and their viewpoints.
I think that basically they're going to be showing that, you know, when all is said and done, more will be said than done when it comes to the Europeans.
All right.
So speaking of Europeans, I know we are coming up on a break.
We will have in a couple of weeks' time an interview with Sasha Rossmueller.
He is scheduled two weeks out.
He'll be staying up late in Germany, and we will dig into the goings-on in Germany in greater depth with Sasha.
But we certainly want to ask Nick in just a moment to talk about the election results in Germany a few days ago, some other things in this final segment.
But before we do that, Nick, anything you want to plug in this time we've got before the next, before the music begins, anywhere people can find you, want to talk to you, learn more about you, find me on Telegram.
It's the one bit of social media I'm still free on, which is t.me.me forward slash Nick Griffin.
Follow me every Wednesday, or for that matter, Hitler Storm Catch Up, on purged.tv, where I do a weekly show.
And also, I do a lot of writing, as you said, now for the American Free Press.
If your readers, any of your listeners aren't familiar with the AFP, they publish some great stuff, including by our host James.
So do please take a look.
It is good, and it is even better now over the course of the last, what has it been now, about a year that you've been doing?
I started writing in September, in September.
I think my first one.
Wow.
Wow.
Well, I mean, it's just September.
Well, time does blur.
Sometimes it goes faster, sometimes it goes slower.
But nevertheless, it has been a few months now, and you are in absolutely every issue, and it makes every issue a can't-miss issue.
So bookmark those links and those sites that Nick just gave you.
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One more segment with the great former member of European Parliament, Nick Griffin.
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Well, you know, if we could, Liz, well, you know, that does happen from time to time around here, doesn't it?
So we're coming out of break, and we're just going to come out of break raw here.
That's, well, you know, technology is the darnest thing.
That's why I'm a Luddite.
You know, I just never took to technology.
But anyway, welcome back to the program, everybody.
And again, a fantastic way to kick off March Around the World Nick Griffin here live with us coming up next.
He is standing by and waiting in the wings.
Paul Fromm in Canada will be visiting Croatia this month.
I'm looking at it right now.
I finally got the schedule pulled up.
Australia, Germany, back to Canada, Russia, South Africa.
Where else are we going to be here?
Just mention South Africa.
Sweden, Belgium.
We'll talk to Brother Jim as well.
So we're looking forward to all of that.
Okay, so Nick, that being said, where do we go from here?
Do we want to touch on Germany for just a moment?
Yeah, sure.
So the AFD, everyone's saying, oh, this is a nationalist party.
They're doing tremendously well.
They're going to sweep to power.
Well, they're not really a nationalist party.
They're, again, they're populists.
Sasha will be harder on them probably than me because he's a proper German nationalist.
I'm not a German.
I'm a proper nationalist.
But the AFD, they've got a lesbian leader who's married to a Sri Lankan woman.
And what on earth is going on here?
But on the other hand, to be fair to them, a lot of their local organization, huge swathes of it around Germany, are actually in the hands of people who are distinctly more genuinely nationalist.
They're still not as nationalist, as serious as President Company and the Sasha, but they're well on the way.
And again, they may not be perfect, but they're a damn sight less bad than the others.
So it's a good thing.
They're founding stock in Germany, Nick.
Are they the founding stock of Germany?
Most of the supporters for AFD?
Yes, absolutely so.
They're proper Germans.
Yeah, exactly so.
And again, if you look at the German history and so on, you can't expect full-scale German nationalists at the moment, but this is about as much as you can possibly get, and they did very well.
A lot of people naively thought they might, you know, they get they come get first place.
They didn't, they got 20%, but they're going to be shut out by what they call a cordon sanitaire against the nationalists.
They'll be shut out of government, which means that you're going to see a basically, by American terms, a Republican Democrats coalition to keep out the semi-nationalists.
And in four or five years' time, given that Germany seems hell-bent on continuing to commit economic and social suicide by following along with the hostility to Russia that the Democrats set them on, I think that in four or five years' time, they could well be genuinely kicking at the doors of power in Germany, and they'll be allied to the outgoing Trump incoming Vance regime.
And again, it'll change things enormously.
Unless, of course, what you're really seeing going on in Europe is, coming back to the American deep state point of view, that the only way to keep the dollar going really as the great currency of the world is to knock down its rivals.
If you split the world up, a multipolar world, into basically a Russian Chinese bloc and an American rest of the world bloc, then who is America's enemy?
And America's enemy at that point is Germany in economic terms.
Germany is the state that America can do down in order to keep America up.
So there is actually an interest in America, I believe.
I'm not saying it's a good thing, it's just a practical thing.
It's in America's interest to see a weakened divided Germany and an economically moribund Germany.
So is it in America's interest to see the AFD come to power and sort it out, or to have Germany just a divided, politically wrecked shambles?
I'm not sure what it'll be.
I think perhaps there is a degree of idealism in Trump and Vance, which might want to sort things out.
But some of the people behind them will look at it very cynically and think if we can screw Germany for a bit longer, so much the better for us.
Well, you know, the Germans, though, seem to be doing a better job of screwing themselves than Americans.
That's what 80 years of guilt does for you.
That's the truth.
That is why they have done it.
It's self-deprecating.
They are flagellating themselves and certainly should not be doing that.
And the silence is deafening about America destroying the Nord Stream pipeline, which is really their basic lifeline to the United States.
That was an action war by America on Germany.
Quite remarkable, and they say nothing.
I remember, speaking of your previous appearances on the program, Nick, there was one, I think you appeared right after that happened as well.
You always seem to pop up right when there's major international news, probably for good reason.
But I remember talking to you about that.
I want to ask you one more thing, and then I want to bring this whole hour full circle, and thanks again for being with us tonight, staying up late for us.
Any other news, though, just very quickly you could touch on?
We're touching on the AFD here.
Any other things going on?
I mean, again, through your work as an elected official and as a campaigner all these years, you know, a lot of folks throughout the length and width of Europe.
Anywhere else, any other hot spots where good things are happening?
That's what we want to focus on.
I think the hotspot to really keep an eye on is Romania, where it's not good things that are happening.
There's basically been a coup d'état against the man who won the Romanian presidential election.
I think he's now in prison, actually, because he took a pro-peace, not anti-Russian stance.
And there's a great deal of anger in Romania about that.
And again, I think people just looking practically at the fact that America has won, sorry, Russia has won the war against NATO.
Why on earth would you side with that?
Why would you take the losing side?
So I think that Romania could become a very interesting hotspot.
The other thing, much closer to home, is straw in the wind in Britain.
On Thursday, elections in this country are always held on Thursdays.
And there's always a few local elections.
And on Thursday, the most important one was held in a very conservative, basically upper-middle-class rural area in the east of England.
And Reform, which is Nigel Farage's party, took the seat from a standing start with 54% of the entire vote, more than all the other parties put together.
So that now means there is not a safe, conservative seat in the country.
And Reform are also very capable of taking Labour seats, and they will take Labour seats as well.
So unless the British political elite find a really dirty way to deal with Nigel Farage, the story of British politics for the next four years up until our next general election is going to be about reform and Farage challenging the old order.
Now again, they're not really proper nationalists, not like us.
There's all sorts of things wrong with them, but they're a damn sight better in social policy.
They're against the LGBTQ thing.
They're pro-gay marriage and all the rest of it.
They're pro-abortion.
They're not proper Christian nationalists, but they're against the LGBT.
They're against the craze war in Russia.
They understand that the man-made climate change thing is a hoax.
So they're a lot better than the others.
And they really are on a roll in Britain.
Well, tell me this, Nick.
Is Nigel Farage a great white hope for England?
Or is there someone who's no, no, Farage's point of view is that immigration is purely a matter of numbers.
He's very proud to have helped destroy the British National Party.
And he believes that anyone could become British, and it doesn't really matter.
Their policy, immigration policy, is one in, one out.
So for every Brit who leaves and goes somewhere sensible, like now the United States, you can have an African or an Asian come in.
And logically, one in, one out also means one dies one in, because our population is falling through the floor as the huge boomer generation dies off.
So we're going to be short of 20 million people in another 20 years.
Where do you get them from?
Farage's answer is, well, if not Africa, then bring in lots and lots of Hindus.
A little bit like Elon Musk.
Friends like that who needs him.
He's not a great white hope.
No.
Yeah, between declining birth rates, the death of the West, as Buchanan calls it, and that, I mean, okay, we need friends like him who need you.
We need to do better than that.
But however, Nick, I mean, again, coming from you, and we'll bring it full circle, the music's about to play.
But again, you have seen it all.
You don't get too high.
You don't get low.
You're balanced.
You're experienced.
And a year ago, if I'd asked you this question, I think I would have gotten a different answer.
But you've already said it.
But just to reiterate, you think we could be reaching or have already arrived at a historical pivot point that might turn in our favour as a result of events of the last several weeks and months.
Yep, I think we could be in a position.
It's a little bit like Glashnost when Gorbachev set about saying we've got to change everything.
We're going to reform the existing system and it'll all be good.
And of course the whole thing ran away with them.
And when a repressive regime, and that's what we've had in all our countries, we've had this repressive liberal capitalist corporate regime for decades.
When the regime tries to change and reform itself, it becomes extremely weak.
And you can see Trump and Farage and so on as Gorbachevs, as Kerensky's, and they're the people who actually opened the floodgates to real revolution.
That's a possibility.
Or they may be we're entering a new age of Caesars.
And these men are not particularly good, but they're not all bad.
And they're working for themselves and to a degree, the interests in their eyes of their country rather than the interests of a corporate plutocratic elite.
So it's one of those two things.
It's going to be fascinating to see which it is.
Well, we will look forward to seeing it continue to evolve together, my friend.
As always, thank you for giving us such an incredible start to our March Around the World 2025 installment.
We will talk to you again soon.
Not soon enough, but soon, I'm sure.
And later on.
Maybe under Trump, you can get in the United States.