Feb. 22, 2025 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is the Political Cesspool.
The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
Well, folks, as you know, we have a partnership, a sponsorship, a friendship with the folks at Antelope Hill Publishing.
The last hour of the last Saturday of each month, we dedicate to the good people there to promote whatever book and whatever author they have.
Always gotta something's always cooking at the Antelope Hill kitchen, to paraphrase Gus Fring and breaking bad, but something delicious is always cooking.
And tonight, it is no exception.
I was delighted to hear from Taylor Young, a member of the Antelope Hill Editorial Board yesterday, when he told me that Paul Kersey would be our guest tonight.
Coming back, Paul is an old friend.
I have known Paul for going on 20 years since the very dawn of my own activism and work in this cause.
And he and I are contemporaries.
We are pretty much the same age in the same season of life.
Pemphis has a unique beat that he follows, which is, you know, he talks about race, particularly civil rights movement-related race and stuff like that.
That's one of our specialty.
That's one of mine.
And a lot of people want to say that, you know, alas, everything was wonderful during the civil rights movement, but then the left went astray.
But they were righteous and holy back then.
No, they weren't.
They were just as corrupt and just as manipulative then as they are now.
Well, he is a prolific, and I mean prolific author.
And we're both boys of the 80s, and so we came of age at the same time.
We watched the same movies.
Maybe we'll get into some of that.
I'm a boy of the 50s.
I had a ringside seat for all that stuff.
We'll get into some of that this hour as well.
But first, let's welcome him back without further ado.
Paul Kersey is with us tonight.
Oh, he's not back yet.
Oh, we're waiting to get back with the headset.
Well, I mean, he was fine with a little bit of the echo.
I mean, I thought that wasn't too bad.
Okay.
Well, anyway, tell us what you like about Paul Kersey, and I'll text him.
I like the fact that he'll call a spade a dirty shovel.
He just grabs the bull by the horns.
He will get in there and tell you what's wrong with Detroit, with Birmingham, with Memphis, with New Orleans, any place that has a large black population is going to have eventually a dysfunctional government when the blacks take over the government.
And that's exactly what has happened.
He talks about the crime problem.
They're insoluble, okay?
And they were brought on by the left, by the welfare system and driving the black males out of the household.
And then all this, you know, coddling of criminals by the left.
It was like the perfect storm.
They created it.
They created it on purpose.
And they have basically made wonderful cities like Memphis, like Detroit at one time, like, you know, Birmingham, basically uninhabitable.
You know, you've got to, you know, watch everything you do if you live in a place like that because crime lurks and death lurks everywhere.
You know, in Memphis, we have generally one death by shooting or stabbing or some type of criminal activity every day, and we have one death by reckless driving.
And it's all black people or 99% black people, basically.
And nobody wants to speak about that except Paul Kersey.
And here he is now.
Without further ado, Paul, we gave you an extended intro, 15 titles to your credits.
And we're here to talk about one specifically.
But you have teamed up with Antelope Hill Publishing.
And I would love to welcome you back to the program.
A contemporary of mine, another child of the 80s.
We grew up watching the same movies and enduring the same decline of our cities.
How are you tonight, Paul?
Hey, I'm fantastic.
Happy New Year.
What a strange turn of events it's been past few years.
But hello to you and your audience and everyone.
And this is an exciting time to be kicking it.
And what he's got, what Trump has done, he's obviously got a game plan.
This is not random.
And he's really prepared this time.
And he's going after the juggler with the left, which is their money through government.
All right, we're here to talk about this book.
I do want to get Paul's take on that very quickly, though.
Liz, we will skip this first break to make up a little bit of time in the air, as the pilots say.
But Antelope Hill Publishing is where you can get some of these new editions of Paul Kersey's work.
But Paul, just to get things started right here, right now, let's just tackle that question first, then we'll go to the book.
Your take on the last 30 days since the inauguration.
Well, thank God Elon Musk is around because he basically is pressuring Trump to really take a holistic view of government and the fact that these people have public jobs.
I mean, that's the thing we have to understand.
These employees in Washington, they work for us, and this isn't working.
It's a bloated bureaucracy.
I lived in Northern Virginia for a long time.
I can't think of worse people on the planet than those who reside in the DMV.
They're all leftists and all minorities, aren't they, for the most part?
There are a lot of white people who betrayed where they're from and moving there.
And a lot of very good people that James knows.
And what Trump does, if Trump actually purges them, Virginia may turn back into a red state.
Virginia could be, Virginia's electorate is actually far, far wider than Georgia.
All you have to do is increase the white vote by 5% in Virginia, and you win handedly.
Same thing with North Carolina.
I mean, North Carolina's electorate is about 65% white versus Georgia's with about 53% white.
And North Carolina is a state that could be very solidly red.
But of course, Charlotte has basically been inundated with Yankees with all the banking there.
Again, it's going to the white vote.
And that's really why I wrote Escape from Detroit back in 2012, James.
And I'm so happy that Antelope Hill back in 2023, they contacted me and they said, hey, listen, we know Amazon, they purged all the Paul Kersey titles, and we'd love to step in and republish Whitey on the Moon and Black Mecca Down.
That's a book about Atlanta, where I'm from.
And it all started, though, with Escape from Detroit, which, of course, going on the Great Kirk.
Take off on that movie, Escape from New York, I guess.
That's exactly right.
And, you know, Detroit really is the epicenter of the destruction that so many northern cities saw after the so-called Great Migration, which I call manifest destruction.
That's, of course, when blacks left the so-called segregated Jim Crow South and overwhelmed places like Rochester and Buffalo and Chicago.
And Detroit is the epicenter for the racial change.
Detroit, about 100 years ago, was definitely 92% white, I believe.
I'd have to go back and look at the data.
It's all.
Can you believe that?
I mean, that is unbelievable.
And you've seen that picture comparison of Hiroshima in 45 and Detroit in 45 and Hiroshima today and Detroit today.
And they say, who won the war?
I mean, you can understand why.
And I just want to say this very quickly, Paul, before we really focus in on this book, Escape from Detroit, that Antelope Hill, you just mentioned, they have published two of your other titles so far.
Black Mecca Down, which is about Atlanta, the fall of the city too busy to hate.
Check that out at antelopehillpublishing.com.
Also, Whitey on the Moon, which discusses the death of the U.S. space program from 1958 to 1972.
As I said, Paul, you and I were born around the same time in the same season of life.
We watched the same movies.
We love Apollo 13.
We love all that stuff.
Check out that book.
But Escape from Detroit is the title we are here to discuss this evening.
And let me read the back cover at antelopehillpublishing.com of this book, which will set the stage for the next few minutes.
And then perhaps a little later this hour, we'll talk to Circle Back and talk to Paul about more contemporary issues.
But this is it.
Once known as the Paris of the Midwest and America's black metropolis, Detroit has been in disrepair and decay for decades.
In this lively yet sober anthology of 45 articles, Paul Kersey tackles the hard truth of why the once great city no longer shines as a beacon of high civilization.
Above all, the change in its demographics from a majority white city to a majority black one.
Escape from Detroit, the collapse of America's black metropolis, is a biting history of how political corruption and racial strife took down one of America's most prestigious cities.
Once a household name associated with American industrial might, Detroit has since become a symbol of urban dysfunction.
The election of Detroit's first black mayor in 1973 acted as an accelerant for the accumulating incompetence, crime, corruption, and the exodus of whites from a crumbling city.
This book, Paul, of yours was originally published in 2012, but it had fallen out of print due to deplatforming and censorship, but it has now been resurrected by Antelope Hill Publishing in this newly edited edition.
And we were talking before you came on tonight during the queue, during the break in between the second and third hours about how Antelope Hill slaps on inspiring new graphics and just gives this thing a whole new life, even a decade or more on.
But let's talk about this book and let's get into the beef of it, the meat of it.
The fact that, I mean, this was Henry Ford City.
I mean, this great man and what he did with the automobile and industrialization, and then it fell into what and how?
I'm sure you tackle all of it.
Yeah, you know, back in 2012, it was 2013, actually.
I remember someone contacting me and said, you won't believe this, but Thomas Sowell just mentioned your book in one of his syndicated columns.
And he basically said, I'll paraphrase, you can call Kersey a racist, but that's not refuting him.
And he was talking about how Colin Flaherty, the late Colin Flaherty, a very good friend of mine, his book, Whitey, I'm sorry, White Girl Bleed a Lot, was at the forefront of sort of a backlash against a lot of the stuff that was happening.
You have to remember, go back to 2012, 2013.
That was the infancy of the Black Lives Matter movement with Trayvon Martin.
We were just about a year before the Michael Brown situation in Ferguson, Missouri.
So Escape from Detroit, it kind of just came about because I really just wanted to, it's like, why doesn't someone just say it?
We all know the problems.
We all know the problems with Birmingham, Memphis, Atlanta, New Orleans, Washington, D.C., Baltimore, Chicago, and Detroit.
And let's just look at the history.
And so I started reading.
I read Coleman Young's autobiography, and he was the first black mayor who was elected basically after the Civil Rights Act of 1964 passed.
You saw then triumphant, joyous riots take place all across the country.
Detroit had a terrible riot because they had, you know, they had police, they had white police who were doing everything they could to try and, you know, dissuade white people from abandoning the city and moving to the suburbs, Gross Point, and all the very nice suburbs that we know exist around Detroit.
And growing up, James, you mentioned that you and I are roughly the same age, definitely early, you know, late 30s, early 40s.
I used to watch Tim Allen and Home Improvement, and the show is set in Detroit, set in the suburbs.
And so it's always funny to think that, hey, that nice white family should be living in downtown Detroit.
Why can't you live in downtown Detroit?
Oh, it's because you can't send your blonde-haired kids to a majority black school.
Well, let's just start talking about that.
Let's just say that.
If you can't address the problem head-on and straightforward, then there's no way to ever correctly identify it and accurately.
And it's not polite.
It's just simply a matter of fact and a matter of statement.
This is what happened in Detroit.
And it is a, like I said, it's the epicenter for so much that went wrong in the 21st century.
And, you know, in the past 13 years since the book came out, guys, you know, Detroit has actually come back in some ways.
It's actually got a white mayor.
I forgot the guy's name, but there's been gentrification.
Dan Gilbert, the guy who runs Rocket Mortgage, he moved there and they've got a massive footprint downtown.
They have their own private police force, though, to try and keep the employees of Rocket Mortgage safe.
But that doesn't go, that doesn't change the fact of what actually happened over the last year.
What's the demographic breakdown, Paul?
Is it what percentage black and what percentage white?
Wow, I haven't looked at the 2020 census recently.
I know that American Renaissance did a thing that Gregory Hood and I spearheaded, the Great Replacement.
And I want to say that the worst it got was about 83 to 86% black.
It's probably about 15% white right now, just because it hit rock bottom.
And you did have an influx of white pioneers who are trying to bring back some semblance of civilization.
And property values are incredible.
I think there was a chapter in the book about an attempt to get people to come back into the city and buy dollar houses.
I actually remember this.
I tried to buy a house in Detroit for a dollar, but you had to be a Michigan resident.
I went through the process of trying to be able to get a house in Detroit.
And I think that was like 2013 or 2014.
And I got pretty far into the city.
For a dollar, but you had to be a bad person.
Are there any white neighborhoods in Detroit left?
Or is it all the same?
Well, you've got, it's like any major city.
You have areas that are still affluent and that are, it's not Johannesburg.
It's not Cape Town levels of security anymore.
You don't have a rape room where, you know, in the house, you've got places where I'm sure you guys have seen the images on social media.
God bless Elon Musk.
Although, by the way, I'm sorry about that, James, because I think you're, are you still banned?
Yeah, well, you know, that's okay.
He can keep doing everything he's doing.
I don't presume that he knows who I am, but I am still banned even after all these appeals every month.
I would recommend just starting a new account because Jared Taylor just started $200,000.
I talked to Jared about that.
I know Jared is too prideful, but I guess I should probably do that now.
At this point, it's the wild west again.
Here's what's important.
I'm going to tell all your listeners.
And I mean this, there was no reason that I started the stuff black people don't like SBPDL blog I did with some friends as a joke.
It kind of took off.
I had a friend who was murdered in Atlanta back in 2011 by a black guy who targeted white people for a mass shooting.
And he shot three white girls.
This was all because he had learned about white privilege in college.
He killed my friend Brittany Watts, a recent University of Georgia graduate.
And that was in 2011.
The doors that a college education can open for you, right?
I mean, that's ultimately the endgame of white privilege and diversity, inclusion, and equity.
It's just removing white people.
And what better way to do that than not just make jobs unavailable to them, but just go ahead and open fire, right?
But the point of the point is that USAID.
I'm sorry?
No, it's probably working at USAID this guy.
But the point about Detroit and why I think it's so important that what Antelope Hill has done is when I put that out back in 2012, it was a one-man operation.
I didn't have a background in typesetting.
I just put it all together on an Apple computer and went through and just put the chapters in.
I did hire someone to do a pretty awesome cover, which I love because it's got the black power fist.
There is legitimately a black power fist in downtown Detroit.
It's a monument.
I think it's for Joe Lewis.
And it's an awesome cover.
But I got to tell you, I think the cover that the Antelope Hill guys put together of the white family and then the white house.
I love it.
I'm looking at it right now.
It looks amazing.
It looks amazing.
These guys have such a wonderful aesthetic.
And there's just this, there is this momentum happening in the country.
And you look at the guys with Antelope Hill where they've just come out of nowhere and just been so spectacular in resurrecting books that have been published that I think will stand the test of time and they will be read to try and understand how in the world did we allow this to happen to all of our students.
Well, I put the same, you know, plaudits to you because, you know, you tread here.
You went, you tread where angels fear to tread, okay?
And that's, you did it, and you did it in a very witty way.
And, you know, you've everybody knew that you basically were taking the rough tree, a rough beef.
Well, actually, I see where you're going with that, Keith.
And I would ask Paul this.
And by the way, I just want to remind folks, antelopehillpublishing.com, if you go to their search bar, just type in the query Paul Kersey, K-E-R-S-E-Y, Paul Kersey, and you can find his three books that are already available from Antelope Hill Publishing, and there's still more to come.
Black Mecca Down, About Atlanta, Whitey on the Moon, Self-Explanatory Escape from Detroit, the book we're talking about tonight.
Or you can get the Paul Kersey bundle.
You can get them all at antelopehillpublishing.com.
But I've got a box set for you.
What do you think about the transition that's happened between the time you were writing these books originally and today in terms of white advocacy writ large?
You know, I still don't like using that term white advocacy or white identitarian.
I mean, America was founded as an implicit white country.
Our mistake was that we just didn't make what we what our founding fathers, the first act of Congress, which George Washington signed, was the 1790 Naturalization Act, which basically stated, matter of factly, that only white men of good character could be citizens.
And of course, the Declaration of Independence, one of the main reasons we were decided to declare independence was because King George would not help with taming the West as we expanded westward and fighting off the merciless Indians.
And America is just such an amazing.
Basically, America was the original European Union in terms of Europeans could leave the fratricidal insanity of the endless unnecessary wars that existed in the 17th, 18th century, primarily Northern Europeans.
And we just established the British were so different from the Spaniards, for example, in their colonization.
Oh, of course, of course.
I mean, we brought our own women over as opposed to the misogynation, which is a good point in Mexico.
No, I mean, I think that the most important word to use for anybody who gets into this line and just becomes a contrarian or decides to go against the grain is perseverance.
It's not a sprint.
If you had told me, well, 13 years ago that we'd be seeing some of the things that we've seen in the past month happening, where immigration now is the only thing that Republicans really care about.
Then again, if you had told me that we would have seen the desecration of all the monuments that happened in 2020, starting in 2015 with the stuff in Memphis and Baltimore and then the Charlottesville insanity.
I mean, you have to have the countenance and you have to understand that, you know, one person isn't going to change things.
You're going to influence people.
And then I do believe in the great man theory of history, and I do believe Donald Trump is one of those people that transformative figure.
But you're a great man too, Paul.
And I think James is.
Well, I appreciate that.
I think the most important thing for your listeners to understand is there are a lot of people out there who have been building the bridge to the next era of Western civilization.
And it sucks.
It's hard work.
It's lonely work.
It can be costly.
It can be devastating in some ways.
But the point is, everything that you're doing is for your grandkids.
It's so that last Columbus Day, I was thinking about how in, you know, I might still be alive in 2092.
And my great hope is that we have set up a permanent base on the moon and that it is named in honor of Columbus.
And we actually, you know, we successfully go back and erase most of the 21st century.
And the 600th anniversary of the Columbus discovering the new world, we actually have a moment where Columbus is truly celebrated for what he was doing.
And if people, that's got to be the vision.
And that's, here's the main thing to say, guys.
You have to put out ideas and get them out, or else people aren't going to think about them.
They're not going to be able to articulate them or defend them.
And that's what we're seeing.
You were a seminal moment when you founded SB DTL or whatever it was.
SBP.
Yeah, the website is still at UNS.
I took a little break for the past couple months.
That's over.
I will be coming back to doing some of the podcasts with Jared and with Greg.
See, that was a seminal moment.
That's when you could finally find somebody on the internet that had the balls to talk about race.
Well, I like, by the way, thank you for mentioning Ron Uns, who kicked off our 2025 broadcasting calendar here the first hour of the first show of this year.
Ron was on with us.
But Paul, you're on point here.
And I loved what you said about the future.
If we could just delete the 21st century, that 100-year terrible period, and just bridge the late 1890s through to from 1913 on.
Well, maybe Woodrow Wilson.
But nevertheless, I mean, but can you see that reality?
Can you see that future?
I think it is plausible.
I do.
Not only is it possible, it's only going to be plausible if people start saying there's an alternative way.
We don't have to live this way.
That was one of the great memes that you saw pop up on Twitter.
You know, we don't have to live this way.
We don't have to continue to watch our major city suburbs.
You know, in Atlanta, for instance, the suburbs of Atlanta now are almost up to the Tennessee border, the Alabama border, and the border of South Carolina because people continue to flee.
It's sick.
It's disgusting.
And even more to the point, Paul, is this.
The real wedge, the real weapon, the real bludgeon that the left has used to accomplish this transformation is race.
And it's black people, okay?
And people, there are still so many people in the conservative movement that do not want to, you know, call a spade a dirty shovel, as my wise grandfather used to say.
Hold on, the music is playing.
We had a little bit of a false start getting Paul on with us at the beginning.
We've got that worked out.
We're going to continue.
We're going to skip the next break, too.
I'll just name all the sponsors and come back.
But go to AntelopeHillPublishing.com.
They're one of the biggest.
And check out Black Mecca Down, Whitey on the Moon, and Escape from Detroit, the book we're talking about now, with its author, Paul Kersey.
Stay tuned.
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Keith Alexander, we were just talking with Paul Kersey during the break there between the second and third segments, the bottom of the hour break.
And Keith just left to go to the green room down the hall.
He's taking the quick time out.
We normally take that time out at the beginning of that break, but we were talking with Paul.
Keith just left the studio room, and so he's not hearing me right now, but he said, I love Paul Kersey.
He is a hero of mine, and he just exited the room.
So I wanted you to hear that for yourself, Paul, as we wait for Keith to rejoin the conversation here in just a moment.
But indeed, that is praise that is very much warranted.
And we're talking about Paul Kersey and his books, 15 of them to date, if I'm not mistaken, three of which have been already republished and brought back to life with fresh graphics and cover art.
And you need to check it out for yourself at antelopehillpublishing.com.
Just put in a search for Paul Kersey, Escape from Detroit, we're talking about right now.
But there are more books to come, many more, in fact, that Antelope Hill will be giving a second lease on life, even after popular runs in their original incarnations.
Am I right, Paul?
Yeah, and again, Escape from Detroit definitely thanks to Thomas Sowell.
Was the one that really created sort of this aura around the whole Paul Kersey stuff.
And also, thanks to Peter Brimlow.
I did, and I still obviously is no longer publishing.
I do think at some point we will see a resurrection as they still navigate the waters that Letitia James is polluting.
But V-Dare was just instrumental in helping publicize.
I mean, I know I gotten, I think the New York Times actually attacked me because I wrote a lot about hidden figures, that movie, and tried to show that this is not only false, but it's comically false.
And, you know, but Escape from Detroit, that's the one that I do hang my hat on.
And what Antelope Hill has done and editing it and the just the formatting, the new look to it, it's exciting.
And they are a, these books are fascinating because I remember exactly when they all came out and what I was doing, what I was thinking, who I was with, and those sort of milestones in my life.
And obviously the past four years, five years since the whole COVID insanity and George Floyd insurrection have been fascinating, but at the same time, it's only galvanized and really helped show not only how correct I was and the decisions that I made and writing this stuff and taking public stands and having a spirit that is unafraid.
So if any of you guys know what that means, you know, fearless and true, that is my alma mater.
And I think you have to be that way in life.
You can't be afraid to risk it all and you can't be afraid, and you can't yield when others do.
And I think that's the great thing about you, James, your show.
I think that's also the great thing about our president right now is that, you know, one of the reasons evil persists is because good people turn back.
And that's the reason why stories that stick with us and heroes stand with us and stand the test of time is because when they could back down, they didn't.
And that's what we can't do right now.
Now is the time to even go even further and push even farther and give people an alternative view of what the future can be because we're not going to be around to see it, but our grandchildren will be.
And it's always for our posterity.
And that's obviously what Antelope Hill is doing.
That's what you're doing with the political cesspool.
And that's why Escape from Detroit and its new incarnation, thanks to Antelope Hill Press, is so important and vital.
Well, let me just add a caveat to that.
You know, there is a place for secret agents, okay, for people that hide their light under a bushel to try to get political power.
And then once they have political power, come out of the closet, so to speak.
But we do need people that stand up.
And we also need to have people that really understand the problem.
And the problem, this is what you do better than anyone else.
I think you have a clear vision.
You're not distracted by other things.
You know that race is the real, you know, foundational problem that has led to the decline of America over our lifetimes.
Now, I want to say this too.
Again, again, first of all, thank you, Paul, for the kind words you had to say a moment ago.
I appreciate that, especially coming from you.
I mean, of course, you and I have known each other for so long.
We share so many friends and common experiences, and we've been in this.
It is an honor to struggle together.
It has been an honor to struggle together.
I don't know how much longer we'll be struggling if the tide is turning as it seems that it may be.
We've got to let these people know they've got to go all the way back to the beginning.
They can't start after the civil rights movement.
The civil rights movement was basically the blueprint for everything else that has come on.
Every radical egalitarian movement that has harmed America.
But I am glad that we have all struggled together.
And struggle is key.
You need struggle.
It is important for men to struggle and suffer in the reach for something better.
But I would say this, and I want to talk about movies in a second.
I want to have a little bit of fun before we run out of time tonight.
And it's always so great to have you on.
And talking about Escape from Detroit, they are going to, at antelopehillpublishing.com, publish many more of your books.
Come to find out.
And one of those titles we offered here at TPC as one of our fundraising incentives, we got autographed copies from Paul Kersey himself just a few years ago.
And we sent those out all over the place.
It was your book about Selma.
And as you probably know, Paul, Jared and I, Jared Taylor and I, what was it, two years ago, we were down in Selma and he Brad was there and a couple of other friends as well.
Yes, Brad was the one giving the tour, in fact, but other people as well, other friends and guests on this program.
But Jared did a video feature at Amrin and a written feature at Amrin about that particular trip.
You wrote a book about Selma that set the woods on fire, as they used to say about George Wallace.
And that was one that we love to put out.
I mean, listen, between Selma, Detroit, we're talking about Detroit tonight, Atlanta, Black Necadown, Memphis, Birmingham, Baltimore.
I mean, what do these cities have in common?
And which one is the worst?
Wow, great question.
Now, you know, Memphis is up there because I remember a few years ago, there was that beautiful white mother who went jogging in the morning at like 5 a.m.
Went right past my home.
She jogged past Keith's home the morning she was murdered.
Yeah, and I can tell you this about her, okay?
She was wealthy.
She was a billionaires, but she worked as a kindergarten teacher in a private school.
But she was also a very gifted runner.
She got into things like the Boston Marathon.
And Eddie Miller, who used to be with our show, who is a marathoner too, told me one time that if you're going to be a serious marathoner, you can't just go out and run every so often.
You've got to run at least 10 miles a day.
So I've charted it out from her house down to Second Presbyterian, where she went to church and back.
That was her route.
She was killed down there near Second Presbyterian.
Well, that was her 10 miles.
It was five miles each way, and she went right past my.
Yeah, I mean, pardon that extra.
But I mean, Keith, that was important to interject.
I mean, that was something that struck close to home, no pun intended.
But Paul, continue.
Yeah, for those who don't know, it was this, I think she had two young kids, and she was kidnapped.
Turned out it was a black guy who did it.
I think the press initially tried to say it was her husband who might have had something to do with it.
And it was a brutal murder.
And, you know, Memphis is one of the cities that actually cut its contract with the first 48.
That's a show that's on, I think, A ⁇ E, which documents when a murder happens in a major city, police have about 48 hours before leads go cold, unless there's a motive.
And the image that Memphis was getting from that show wasn't very positive, to put it nicely.
Well, see, it was, I tell you why it became popular with the national media.
They thought they had found the perfect CSI murder because her husband had been a working class guy.
She married him.
She was a billionaire.
They were convinced that he had hired a hitman to put a hit on her.
Well, the family was smart enough to lolly her up and stonewall all that crazy speculation.
And it turned out to be their worst nightmare in Paul Kersey's Fulfillment of a dream because this is exactly, you know, some ghetto black guy that was a sexual predator that worked in the night shift cleaning up a movie theater.
He had just gotten out of prison.
Yeah, and he don't want to digress on this too much.
I mean, it turned out to be a Paul Kersey story rather than a CSI.
And not that Paul Kersey dreams about this.
I mean, it is just reality, and Paul Kersey is a truth teller.
I mean, I get what you're saying, and I don't argue.
I'd actually probably go.
I'd say the worst city in the country is probably Baltimore.
I'd say Baltimore is up there because just how ensconced the black power structure is there, and Maryland's just such an awful state.
Yeah, I'd go Baltimore.
Any city you have that has a vast majority black population and a black political hierarchy is going to be corrupt as hell.
That's what we have in Memphis.
What's the name of the book on Selma?
Because I got to tell you, Jared and Brad and I, along with a couple of other folks, my son was there that day.
We were on the Edmund.
I'll text you, Paul, a great picture of Jared and I on the Edmund Pettis Bridge if that didn't appear in any of his work.
But nevertheless, what's the title of the book on Selma?
I think it's just called The Truth About Selma.
I do not remember this.
I got it right here on the bookshelf.
It's over there.
Yeah.
I think it's The Truth About Selma.
And that's one of those cities that every year we have to.
The pilgrimage, I think it's in March every year.
Is that it?
Am I right?
I gotta stop doing that.
It was part of the build-up to the Voting Rights Act of 1966.
And of course, we've interviewed who, Keith?
Drew Lackey, who was the police chief in Montgomery during the time of the Montgomery bus boycott, which was a great deal.
Is he still alive?
No, he died in 2000.
He died a few years ago at 90.
That's one of the things that I've seen.
But American Free Press and Barnes Review have both republished transcriptions of that interview.
I'll forward that to you as well, Paul.
See, that's one of the things we did historically.
We have George Wallace Jr., who can testify that unlike he was portrayed in the biopic, Elvis was a big supporter of George Wallace and had a wallet for president sign in the front yard of Grace Review.
This is actually a transition I wanted to make.
I want to remind everybody very quickly.
I mean, we've been skipping breaks tonight.
We're not supposed to do that.
We might get in trouble.
But DixieRepublic.com, obviously, above TimeCoffey.com, AmericanFreePress.net, and who we're talking about tonight, Antelope HillPublishing.com, where you can get Paul Kersey's book.
You can even get the Paul Kersey bundle.
That bundle is going to be a lot bigger in the coming years as they forklist to bring it in.
Republish all of his books.
And I tell you, there's not one that you wouldn't want to read.
But you were talking about movies.
What was the movie you were just talking about?
Oh, the new Elvis movie.
Yes, Paul.
I mean, this is it.
So we interviewed George Wallace Jr. a few years ago.
And he was talking about, hey, you know, listen, you know, Elvis had a George Wallace for president yard sign at Graceland, and this movie made George Wallace to be this, or excuse me, Elvis to be this early prototypical civil rights enthusiast.
Which was not, you know, contrary to the facts, according to this testimony.
But nevertheless, let's talk about movies right now.
You mentioned a fantastic interview with Drew Lackey, who arrested Rosa Parks.
He booked a book, Martin Luther King.
And you did an interview with me that was in the Barnes.
We'll get it all era.
Yeah, exactly.
We'll get it to Paul.
We'll get the George Wallace thing, too.
But you mentioned we're talking about movies, this Elvis movie, but you mentioned earlier Hidden Figures, Paul.
Why is that movie so particularly absurd?
Give us a quick take on that.
And then I got another one for you.
I've been waiting to talk to this to someone about this movie, and we've got the perfect guest tonight.
Why was Hidden Figures, though?
Remind people what it was and why it was so patently absurd.
Hidden Figures was about the Apollo program in the 1960s.
And basically, there was this group of purportedly black women.
They're all incredibly light-skinned.
Catherine Johnson is one of the main individual.
She did exist.
She does exist.
And they tried to present it as these black individuals were the only reason, the sole reason, that the mission was.
The black cleaning staff was responsible for a man going to the moon or something.
I mean, again, she did do some mathematics.
She is a smart individual.
But again, redundancy, NASA is, I mean, again, if this was at a time when the civil rights movement's going on, this is at a time where the black press was adamantly opposed to the massive expenditures going toward the Apollo program.
And if you really wanted to try and showcase the fact that there were black contributors to the program, you would have put these people at the forefront at that point and going out there and doing a press tour to the black media.
And, you know, because the black media was lombasting the fact that this is just white people going to the moon.
And in 2019, they were jealous all that money was not being spent on them.
Exactly.
That's it, right?
Yeah, and the point is this.
It's really simple.
If this story were true and you were trying to get people to really become invested, you would have shown it back in the 1960s.
If a lot of the stories that are purportedly happened that are apocryphal, John Glenn apparently said something about her.
Have the girl check the numbers.
And it's like, come on.
Are you kidding?
Like Von Braun, when he was in military jail in 1945 to 46 in Texas, he wrote a book where he basically did the math to get to Mars.
I mean, the Germans, I mean, we all joke, like, why can't we get to, why did everything kind of stop in 72?
Well, it's because the Germans started dying off.
I mean, Jesus.
You know, I got to say, Paul, one time when Pat Buchanan was on this show, I mentioned Colonel Lindbergh, and he said, good for you.
Good for you for mentioning Colonel Lindbergh.
I will say, good for you.
Good for you for mentioning Werner von Braun.
I mean, that's a name that should not be forgotten.
He's still a hero in Huntsville, Alabama.
The auditorium is named for him.
And no, I mean, again, at some point, I bet you Elon Musk actually names a rocket after Von Braun.
I hope so.
All of my children went to private school.
I have three boys, and they all made a pilgrimage with their class to Huntsville.
I did too.
I did the same thing.
Well, go ahead, Paul.
And then I'll talk about it.
Oh, no, no, it's not.
I mean, here's the thing.
Let's just be very blunt in what I'm about to say here.
Because I've told you this before in the show, and this is still something that blows my mind.
The Wright brothers, they flew for the first time in Kitty Hawk back in 1903, December of 1903.
And then in July of 1965, 1969, 65 years, 65 years later, in July, we're on the moon.
And it's just mind-blowing to think of the unbelievable technological advances that occurred during that time period when the focus wasn't on trying to uplift a people who are unupliftable.
And all of our money went to trying to improve individuals' lives collectively with the great society, just the vast amount of money.
And I think one of the times that stuff black people don't like really took off is we could have been on Mars, but instead, and I just started kind of using that a lot.
And it was sort of that cost-benefit analysis of, you know, I've got a very analytical business background.
And, you know, in NBA classes, you learn about strength, weakness, opportunity, threats, little SWOT analysis.
And I kind of think that's what we have to start doing when we look at a multiracial society and we kind of look backward and we kind of do the post-mortem on this experiment.
And it's failed.
We all know it's failed.
The question is, what are we going to do with that reality, with that data?
And that's, because again, Escape from Detroit, that could be about any city.
It could be about Indianapolis.
It could be about Milwaukee.
It could be about.
That's why I want you to watch that thing about the city beautiful in 1955 and see how much progress they had made in what a civil society with people with proper manners and things like this were in, you know, across the board and how all of that was lost because of the civil rights.
Well, and so basically what Keith is talking about is as late as the mid-1960s, the city of Memphis still decorated its public parks with flower arrangements made to look like a Confederate flag.
And so this is, you know, are we better off now?
Has the standard of living, has the intelligence of blacks improved?
Black people are, you know, they lived in segregated neighborhoods.
But guess what?
All the businesses were owned by local black people.
We're running out of time.
I got to mention this: analopehillpublishing.com.
Search for Paul Kersey.
Search for the book we've been talking about tonight, Escape from Detroit.
We've got about 30 books here in the studio on our bookshelf here in the studio.
And I see some signed titles from Buchanan, Sam Francis.
I'm just looking here about 20 feet away.
I see Bob Whitaker, Steve King.
I see George Wallace Jr., we just mentioned Michael Andrew Grissom, a couple of others.
Virginia Abernathy.
And then, yeah, Philip DeWinter.
And then I think Hutton Gibson, Mel's dad.
I think the one on the very end might be mine.
And then right in the middle, right in the middle is the truth about Selma.
It's right there.
It's signed even by Paul.
Wait, did Hutton Gibson write a book?
He did.
It's called The Enemy Is Still Here.
Hutton Gibson wrote a book, and I've got a signed copy of it.
And we actually did a fundraiser.
He sent me a palette of those before he died years ago, more than a decade ago now, I think.
He was a special friend of the show.
Yeah, he was.
His son has a huge movie that he's doing about one of the sieges of, oh, God, I forgot which one it is, when Christian soldiers held one of the cities.
Oh, my goodness, I'm sorry, I'm blanking, against a Muslim horde.
And it's going to be incredible.
I can't wait.
Was it Aker and the Crusade at 1251?
No, I'll look it up here.
You guys keep talking, and I'll take care of it.
All right, while we're talking, we only have minutes left.
We should have gone three hours with you tonight, Paul.
But stay tuned for 7.5 Radio.
Scoop Stanton, who was with us earlier tonight, credentialed member of the media at CPAC.
He is going to be continuing on his coverage there from CPAC in the next hour.
But we have a minute left.
And I got to ask you about this movie.
We talked about hidden figures.
Have you heard about the movie The Six Triple Eight?
The Six Triple Eight was a World War II unit of black women who sorted mail for the American troops.
The 6888 Central Postal Directory Battalion was the only unit of its kind in Europe.
Paul, you might not have heard about this.
The unit story was the basis for the 2024 film The Six Triple Eight, written and directed by Tyler Perry, obviously an incredible director.
Best thing since Red Tail.
Basically, the whole synopsis of the movie, the whole premise of the movie, I haven't watched it, it's on Netflix, is that the Germans were about to break through in the spring of 45, but until these black women got over there to deliver the mail, it encouraged the Allied troops so much they were able to push through and finally take Berlin.
I mean, that's the movie that's out.
That is hidden figures-esque.
Have you heard about that movie, Paul?
And do you have a comment?
I have not heard about the movie.
I've got no comment except for, yeah, it's the first time you're hearing about it.
Well, I can say this: it is true to life that they were working for the post office.
Well, they actually said that they delivered the mail ahead of schedule.
If that happened in Europe in the spring of 45, it hasn't happened since then because I can tell you we had a hell of a time getting our fundraising letters out.
James about went off the road.
Boy, almighty.
I mean, it's taking two to three weeks to get mail delivered from Memphis to Atlanta.
I can tell you that.
If I could jump in just for anybody that is.
A minute later, let's go.
Yeah, the Mel Gibson Project is about the siege of Malta when 700 Christian knights faced an Ottoman invasion force of over 30,000 people from May to September of 1565.
It's hailed as one of the most significant military engagements in military history compared to the famed Spartan stand at Thermopylae.
So if you've never heard of the Great Siege of Malta, look it up.
This is the next big project that Mel Gibson is doing.
Wow.
As he's also doing it, like Vienna and the Battle of Lepanto.
Well, hold on.
I mean, so that's actually happening because I know he's coming up with the Resurrection of the Christ, which is his sequel to The Passion of the Christ.
That's coming up relatively sooner than later.
But I actually did not know about this new project.
Yeah, he's been wanting to do this.
He's actually done a lot of interviews.
I just couldn't remember which one it was, but he's talked about how this is something that's always influenced him.
And maybe you'll have to go through and see if there's something in his dad's book where he told him about this just amazing battle, which, like you said, the Battle of Lepento.
If that goes the other way or any of these sieges that took place.
Again, talk about a vision of the future.
My great hope is that this horror in Russia and Ukraine ends and we get a great meeting of Putin and Trump together.
And then we start to truly see, hey, why don't we actually take back Constantinople now?
I mean, isn't that, isn't that actually, isn't that actually our city?
Can we?
Yeah, it was the English that fought that off in the Crimean War.
Listen, I love the Crusaders.
And I will tell you, I love the Crusaders.
I don't think that was time misspent.
And I think it's all on the table now, Paul.
And it's all on the table.
And it's a great time.
Trump has Mel Gibson and John Voigt as special emissaries to Hollywood.
We put Mel's dad and Kevin McDonnell at the same table.
I tell you, Hutton was a great guy.
Antelope HillPublishing.com.
Search for Paul Kersher.
Get the book.
We've been talking about Escape from Detroit.
He has others there and more still to come.
Paul, thank you for rounding out our show tonight, closing it in Grimmon fashion.
Always great to talk to you, my friend.
And we'll talk to you again soon, I hope.
Best and Dania.
Indeed.
Best of luck with a new project.
Absolutely.
For everyone else who appeared tonight, thank you as well.