Oct. 19, 2024 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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And here to guide you through the murky waters of the political cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
Great first hour with David Duke at the hits continue here, playing all the hits tonight with Jason Kessler, author of Charlottesville and the Death of Free Speech.
He's back tonight for the full hour, the second hour, to discuss the present state of expression and assembly in America, the Trump-Harris race, and his recent trip abroad.
Jason is a very interesting traveler of the world, and we had him on year before last, I think it was, when he went down to South America, Marco Polo.
He's great, and he has great insights and great takes from these trips.
He went down to South America and then Romania a couple of years ago, and then now he's been to a lot of other places.
We'll get to that at the end of the hour.
But first, let's say hello.
Jason, how are you tonight?
I'm doing great.
And welcome back home.
I'm glad you made it back.
And, well, we've got a busy hour for you.
I had originally intended to start the conversation with you tonight with regards to the latest news in some Charlotteville-related cases.
But I think let's first continue on the election because we just got done with our conversation with David Duke.
And you were taking a little bit of a different track here.
David Duke, listen, I agree with what he's saying.
I think, you know, I wonder why he didn't just say, here is why I cannot support Trump and why you should consider not being able to support him too, as opposed to endorsing maybe Jill Stein, who is better than Trump on Israel, but worse on everything else.
But, you know, it was a great conversation.
I love the guy, and I agree with him on just about everything.
But this, you had posted on your Telegram a few days ago this, Jason, and I had mentioned in the first hour, you have been a longtime critic of Trump, but this is where you've landed.
I went ahead and voted for Trump, you wrote, because I don't think there's a more radical alternative waiting in the rings.
I think acceleration could just mean more decimation of everything we love while the conservatives cuck and normalize it.
Kamala winning will mean an even bigger crackdown on political dissent, period.
There is no saving America.
I'm just voting to prevent the boot from coming down so hard it snaps our necks.
Yes, you wrote Donald Trump is the ultimate Chabos bootlicker, but they all are.
That is beyond, I think, where I've landed.
That's the way I feel, too.
Go ahead.
Yeah, I mean, I feel a lot of the same criticisms that Dr. Duke has of Trump, and a lot of us within the white identity community feel personally aggrieved by Trump's embrace of Jewish causes that are repugnant to our moral sensibilities, like the embrace of the Israeli genocide of the Palestinians.
But I think that the white community is trying to outjo the Democrats.
I think the white identity community can kind of be split in two along this variable of do you believe that the Jewish supremacy issue is so important that it overshadows everything else?
Or can you look at it as, well, Jewish supremacy is going to be elected, whether it's Harris or Trump, and there are other issues at play.
Like, for instance, the Biden-Harris administration has been radicalizing the Treasury Department to give out money to blacks and non-whites only, whites excluded.
I think there's going to be a lot of policies like that taking our money, pointing the DOJ at us that I just don't think are going to be a priority for Trump.
So we're going to get acceleration, but in the wrong direction, because the conservatives always just back down.
And when they back down and say, okay, I can live with this, it becomes normalized.
Even if you're somebody who's in favor of quote unquote acceleration, I think that's going to happen more if Trump is elected.
Mark Halperin was recently on Tucker Carlson talking about how there's going to be this massive mental health crisis among leftists if Trump gets elected.
And there's going to be fights at work and there's going to be violent protests by Antifa and Black Lives Matter.
And I'm like, all right, go ahead.
I don't have anything to do with those people.
Even if I might agree with Antifa on something to do with Israel or Palestine, they're not my buddies.
And I want them to cry and be angry.
Before you chime in, Keith, I've got to say this too.
Yeah, I have explained in recent weeks why I'm voting for Trump, even though I understand a very nuanced view on Trump.
If you can't get around anything else, just understand this.
Do we want this coup that the Democrats enacted to put this terrible, shrill woman in as the nominee to succeed?
Do we want Taylor Swift to succeed?
Do we want the media to win?
And there is something to be said for that.
Censorship, I think, is a big issue.
And what I would ask to you, Jason, is this.
If Trump is so bad on the Jewish question and loves the Jews as the biggest, shabbous boy ever, why do the Jews hate him so?
I just, it's a puzzlement to me.
Yeah, I mean, the Jews are not monolithic as they're sometimes presented.
There is a left-right dynamic within the Jews.
And, you know, I'm a little bit with Jared Taylor in the sense that I think that there are some Jews who cross paths with us in terms of they see themselves as white, whether they are or not.
The world views them as white.
And, you know, it's not like I'm saying let's team up with Jews like Trump is.
But if they're willing to leave me alone, I'm willing to focus on the immigration issue.
If everybody in America in this crazy, messed up hellscape of diversity that we live in, known as America, if you can get Hispanics and whites and Jews and blacks for whatever reason to agree immigration is a problem, that's something.
Well, you know, immigration is the reason we have a Jewish problem.
If we had never allowed a lot of immigration from overseas, basically the liberalism that we are bedeviled with now would not exist.
What's done is done as far as that goes.
See, getting them in here, though, that was it.
You know, basically, once they're in, it's like getting a bad case of athlete's foot.
You know, it's hard to get rid of.
I would say this for everyone who is voting for Trump, whether you're enthusiastically voting for Trump or voting for him because the alternative is just so wretched, he's going to win this race.
This race is over.
I'll go ahead and call it Jason from my point of view.
I'm looking at the real clear politics averages.
I go there just about every day.
This is, of course, the averages of all the polls out there.
He's leading in every swing state now.
He's leading nationally, basically.
And you compare that to where he was four years ago and eight years ago when he was down by nearly 10 points nationally.
And Wildcard says they're going to have to cheat a hell of a lot more.
And so here's the thing, though, is There was an article that I read, interesting article, about how Kamala Harris's numbers are tanking with men of all races, which it was an interesting article and interesting data.
Of course, progressives, so-called progressives, have spent decades demonizing men, and their numbers are in the tank.
She's in the tank with men of all races.
Most heterosexual men, of course, don't want a shrill woman to be president.
White women still back Trump.
It is a net gain with white women in favor of Trump, as it always has been with Republican candidates.
The race is over.
I think Trump is your next president.
Now, how do I know that?
What am I basing that on?
Forget all of these issues we like to talk about.
Forget everything else.
When it costs $60 to take your family to eat lunch at Chick-fil-A, that's why.
And if you need more reasons, just go watch what Kamala Harris and Tim Walz said about Christopher Columbus last week and how it's Indigenous Peoples Day.
All of that and more, but the economy is still going to be where it all lands.
Jason, I think Trump's your next president.
I'm leaning in that direction.
I think that there's far too many variables to say for certain.
There's always that what if of the election integrity and if there'll be cheating, if it's close.
And the numbers seem to be going back and forth.
Like if you're on a left-wing site like Huffington Post, they're assuring you, yeah, Harris is going to win.
And then if you're on Fox News or whatever, they're telling you Trump's going to win.
So I'm always doubting myself, too.
Like, is my preference for conservative or right-wing news sources biasing me?
Because they're both saying two opposite things.
And even the aggregators like Nate Silver seem to be fluctuating back and forth.
But I do think that Trump, even if he does nothing, which I think he won't do anything except serve his own interests and maybe Israel, there is a metapolitical interest for white people in Donald Trump because whether we believe that he is the savior of white people or not, he's not.
The left believe that he is the champion of quote-unquote white supremacy.
And so he gives license to people talking about white identity issues.
He gives us our mojo.
People feel like we're back again.
You know, America's great again, that kind of thing.
So even if they're going to be very short, they're going to be very soon disillusioned because I thought it would be better on the censorship issue.
But he's come out and said anybody that says anything bad about the Jews, I'd have no problem at all with censoring them or, you know, punishing them.
But he's not really going to go after you like the Democrats.
So I agree with Jason on that.
I just don't see that.
Yeah, what Trump is going to be doing in office is he's going to be on the defensive the whole time because just like last time, the Democrats are going to be attacking him.
He's not going to have any time to go after quote-unquote white supremacists.
He's going to be in a war with his ideological enemies in the Democratic Party.
Hold on.
Jason, you mentioned something.
We've got to take a quick break.
You mentioned a clip from Tucker.
I can never say that without getting tongue-tied.
We're going to play that when we come back.
I found it first on your Telegram, and we're going to have you respond.
Then we're going to get into Charlottesville and your recent trip abroad.
Very interesting travels you take.
We'll be right back with Jason Kessler.
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Getting a lot of messages in for tonight's show.
A friend of ours in East Tennessee: if the Republicans don't have Congress, Trump will be impeached and lawfared into oblivion.
That's true, too.
It'd be just another stalemate as it was during the first four years.
But Jason brought to our attention, boy, you know, if I was reading a little bit of an op-ed in The Times of Israel from Abe Foxman that was written by Abe Foxman in the first hour when David Duke was on.
And just if any of these things that they say were actually true about the threat that Trump poses to pluralistic societies, then man, that would be wonderful.
But I'm not so sure that this isn't something that could happen.
And this is the clip we're about to play.
We found it from Jason's telegram.
So credit to Jason for bringing this to my attention.
Let's listen to it and we'll have him responding at Keith back in on this too.
Let me get the levels right here in the studio.
I probably should have done that during the break.
Okay, let's see how it sounds now.
Let's say Trump wins three weeks from today.
What happens?
The Democratic Party just, I mean, as you said, a lot of Democrats, maybe the majority, believe that Trump becoming president again is the worst thing that ever could happen.
So how do they respond to that?
I say this not flippantly.
I think it will be the cause of the greatest mental health crisis in the history of the country.
I don't.
I think tens of millions of people will question their connection to the nation, their connection to other human beings, their connection to their vision of what their future for them and their children could be like.
And I think that it will require an enormous amount of access to mental health professionals.
I think it'll lead to trauma in the workplace.
I think there'll be some degree of 100% serious.
100% serious.
I think there'll be alcoholism.
There'll be broken marriages.
Yeah.
They think he's the worst person possible to be president.
And having won by the hand of Jim Comey in fluke in 2016 and then performed in office for four years and denied who won the election last time in January 6th, the fact that under a fair election, America chose by the rules pre-agreed to Donald Trump again, I think it will cause the biggest mental health crisis in the history of America.
And I don't think it'll be kind of a passing thing that by the inauguration will be fine.
I think it will be sustained and unprecedented and hideous.
And I don't think the country's ready for it.
So mental health crises often manifest in violence.
Yeah, I think there'll be some violence.
I think there'll be workplace fights.
There'll be fights at birthday, kids' birthday parties.
I think there'll be protests that will turn violent.
I hope they're not, but I think there will be some.
But I think it will be more, it'll be less anger and more a failure to understand how it could happen.
You know, like the death of a child or your spouse announcing that, you know, your wife announcing she's a lesbian and she's leaving you for your best friend, like something that's so traumatic that it is impossible for even the most mentally healthy person to truly process and incorporate into their daily life.
I hope I'm wrong, but I think that's what's going to happen for tens of millions of people because they think that their fellow citizens supporting Trump is a sign of fundamental evil at the heart of their fellow citizens and of the nation.
Okay, Jason, this is the thing that I have said for months on this program is that that is why I am supporting Trump and why I am going to vote for him is because even if there's a chance of that happening, then that is worthy of my support.
The chaos, when people get hysterical, and if the left gets hysterical and they make these mistakes, and they made a big, they overplayed big time with George Floyd, and that woke a lot of people up to racial realities.
If Trump can be that inadvertent change agent.
Yes, then it's worth the shot.
That's where I land on this thing.
Everybody's arguments are valid.
If they want to leave, don't let the door hit you in the ass when you go.
But if there's a chance of what this guy is saying to Tucker Carlson could happen, then we should get behind him for that reason.
Otherwise, it's Harris.
Go, Jason.
Well, ultimately, the elections aren't that important because liberal democracy has failed.
And that is one of the great things that this election can ironically bring into the American consciousness because the left is so concerned about saving democracy that they would destroy democracy to get it.
In other words, if the election doesn't turn out the way they want, they'll throw it all in the trash.
And it's not something that's worth saving at all.
You know, as Dr. Duke was noting in his segment, there are powerful interests like the Jewish lobby and others who totally control American elections.
It's a fraud.
So I think that delegitimizing something that is fraudulent can only work in our benefit.
Well, look, Jason, I would say what is left of traditional American democracy for him to destroy?
The Democrats and the left and the WOAT movement have done that.
You know, he could never have done the job that they did in destroying democracy.
Yeah, there's nothing real about what they're saying in the mainstream political dialectic.
There is no democracy.
It's the rich and the powerful who decide what our elections are.
And then we get to vote between their two favorite candidates.
But one thing I will say is that that violence is not something that we should be relishing.
When Trump won originally, we legitimately believed what the media was saying, that he was going to be empowering the white cause.
But all it did was embolden Antifa and BLM to riot and attack us at protest.
And then their public officials in the Democrat Party were so outraged by Trump, they were willing to subvert the law and hide their eyes and allow BLM and Antifa to riot and maim and murder and vandalize.
So when this happens, if Trump wins, we need to keep our heads down and stay the hell out of the way.
Just let the bull run right through the China shop.
I love that.
All right, Jason, let me ask you this.
When you posted that last clip, that clip that we played from the Carlson show, you put on your social media.
If you're thinking about voting, time is running out.
It's your choice, though.
Watch this video and see if there's anything that appeals to you.
What about that video might have appealed to you?
Well, like I just said, delegitimizing liberal democracy, but also there's something in what you said.
There's something inherently repellent about Harris, the smug DEI higher woman of color.
It's like being stuck at the DMV and having the worst day ever and some sassy black woman talking down to you.
So bad it gives you a headache.
I don't want to listen to some DEI hire praise to the high heavens.
It's the first female woman of color president for four years, maybe eight years.
Who really wants to sit through that?
That's the main reason to vote for Trump.
I don't want to be stuck with Harris for eight years.
Listen, I think between you and David Duke, we have done a pretty good job.
I mean, we could have had 100 different guests on tonight that could compare and contrast and the levels of pro or anti-Trump argument.
But I think this is a pretty good one-two punch on for and against.
And both of you are right.
That's what makes this conversation so interesting is that I agree with both of you while still drawing my own conclusions and having to make a decision for myself, as all of our audience will have to do in this race, Keith.
Well, I am still bedeviled by the question that Trump was such a shill for Jews in his first term.
Why do they hate him so?
And the only thing I can come up with, Jason, and I just throw this out for you to knock around or kick around, maybe it's because he's not a globalist.
And really deep down, what their ambition is, is global one world.
He definitely also says things that white people like.
And by that alone, they are afraid that something could catch in the Tinderbox.
But Jason, you answer that.
There also is a difference between the self-conception of the left-wing Jew and the right-wing Jew.
The right-wing Jews have a much more nationalistic racial consciousness.
They see themselves as separate and superior.
Whereas the left-wing Jews, they also fight white people, but it's more because they see themselves as part of this rising tide of color.
All of these non-white groups that have all been victimized by white people and have to band together to get their revenge.
So they see the right-wing Jews as another variation of quote-unquote white supremacists.
It's like you can count the number of right-wing Jews on two hands, but you know, it's 80%.
Look, everybody.
It's about 80-20, right?
I mean, that's more than you're right.
Every election, it's 80-20 Jews voting Democrat 20% for something other than the Democrats.
They're a minority, but boy, are they a rich minority?
Yeah, there you go.
And that is why I think that's why you see Trump's subservience there.
And there is no doubt that he is not good on this issue.
But this is what I get back to.
No matter who wins on this, no matter who wins, we're not going to have a dog in the fight on that issue.
I do think that Jewish power and influence will begin to wane, if only because the younger generations on both the left and the right, even conservative Christian youth now, are not really going along with that dispensationalism that the previous generation did.
And of course, for different reasons.
On the left, you have, of course, the Democratic base is very anti-Israel now, but for the wrong reasons, they see them as white colonizers going after the oppressed brown minority.
So there's a different reason that they fall on the right side of that question.
But nevertheless, we don't have to worry about agitating the left.
If Trump gets in, his mere presence as president will agitate them much more than anything that we could do.
And I just say, I just say, I mean, if we can have the chaos, to have a chance is better than no chance.
With Harris, you have no chance.
And I do think, Jason, before we come up on this break and we shift gears to Charlottesville in the next segment and then your recent travels in the final segment, I think if Harris is in there, she will be motivated to come after people like us.
Whereas, as you said earlier, Trump really won't.
Yeah, she'll have a clear shot at political dissidents because the Republican Party is too weak to oppose her effectively, and they don't really have the balls to fight her on race and identity issues.
There will be a war in the Republican Party if Trump.
Hold up, we got to take a quick break.
We'll be right back with Jason Kessler.
Stay tuned.
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A message in, they hate Trump because he represents a white uprising with him as the man on the horse.
Most of his followers unconsciously want that, and the Jews know it.
And that is why I think simply enough, one of our listeners, I think that's pretty good actually.
One of our listeners emailed that in while we're on the break.
We're with Jason Kessler right now, a journalist, and of course, the man behind the Unite the Right rally.
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Well, David Duke, too.
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And with Charlottesville now being on our mind, Jason, let's talk about some not-so-good news.
It's a tale of two different, very different verdicts, apparently.
The chair justice of Jason Dix, excuse me, Jacob Dix earlier this year, where he decided to plead not guilty to what basically boils down to the charge of exercising his First Amendment rights.
And he rolled the dice and he won.
Our friend Augustus Invictus, who was most recently on the show just a few weeks ago, a month or two ago, not any longer than that, to be sure, followed a similar path and got a different outcome.
Can you compare and contrast those two cases, Jason, and tell us what's going on?
The crime or reason for it.
Well, I mean, you have two remarkably similar fact patterns.
Both Jacob Dix and Augustus Invictus were nonviolent, peaceful protesters on August 11th at the famous Tiki Torch march the night before the Charlottesville Unite the Right rally.
They marched, they held a tiki in their hands.
They, as far as anybody knows, never touched anybody, never said anything to anybody.
And yet one of them is found not guilty and the other one is found guilty.
It really is a striking injustice, but there's a reason why one of them got off and one of them didn't, because one of them was able to use information, partially that I found, to recuse not only the judge in the case, but the entire circuit of judges, as well as the whole prosecutor's office.
So they brought in a judge from outside the area who was impartial and did a much, much better job.
And in the end, ended up dismissing the case after a hung jury because he found that Jacob's actions were 100% in line with the First Amendment.
However, Invictus's attorney was not able to get the prosecutor or the judge recused.
And it has to do with a really arcane thing about, you know, I found some stuff about the judge's wife being a member of Antifa.
So one attorney said, well, we're going to call her as a witness.
And so the judge said, okay, well, everybody's got to be recused and because we're too close to that wife.
Whereas the other party, when after they'd seen that, they said, no, we're not going to call the wife.
And I'm thinking, well, why wouldn't you just say you're going to call the wife to get all these people off of your case?
And so basically they had a local judge named Judge Moore.
And there is no way a judge in the Charlottesville Alamo area could be impartial because they are just bombarded with propaganda in the media constantly about how Unite the Right was the most evil thing possible.
No one in their right mind would consider that you have a free speech right to say you will not replace us and other things.
And, you know, these judges feel like they have to get revenge for this community of left-wing activists.
And so every decision went against Invictus, including the jury instructions.
In Jacob Dix case, there was an instruction about concert of action where you could be guilty for something that somebody else did, not you.
But they also had an instruction about how each person is only responsible for their own actions.
So there was a contrast, a contradiction that led a lot of people to vote not guilty.
There was no jury instruction about somebody being responsible only for their actions in the Invictus case.
It just said he can be guilty for something he didn't do.
If he was in a crowd and somebody else did something, everybody in the crowd is guilty.
And that's ridiculous.
Well, you know, Jason, I have a modest proposal to make.
Maybe all of this folklore that we have about the sanctity of trial by jury is passe in today's multicultural, multi-ethnic, multiracial America.
The assumptions that it's based on is that, you know, you are being judged by a jury of your peers.
And instead, we just have a variety of interest groups that are at each other's throats.
And as a result, I think that the whole trial by jury system needs to be revisited.
Keith, that's exactly why I'm against liberal democracy.
It's for the same reason.
Whether it's a jury or whether it's your fellow citizens who are voting, they're not your quote-unquote peers.
They're people who deeply hate you, a lot of times because of your race, because you're a white person, and they see you as an oppressor.
So your skin color is inherently going to tell these people that you're a bad guy, especially if it's a racially motivated case.
So I don't think that we can have fair trials in racially motivated cases in the United States, just like we can't have a fair election when the two sides want to hurt one another.
Those aren't people with one another's best interest in mind.
And they're not part of a single community.
They are separate, you know, islands in the stream or whatnot.
Yes, it's a failed experiment.
It's something that has failed, but the powers that be are torturing us with it because they are denying the reality in front of their own eyes.
I agree.
All right.
So, Jason, what are your takeaways here with regards to these mixed verdicts?
Good news on one, not so good news on the others.
What is the situation with Augustus right now?
I actually texted him the day before the verdict and wished him good luck, and he responded.
And I just hate to even check in now.
I'll call him tomorrow.
But is he awaiting sentencing now?
Is he what's the range of sentences that he might get?
Well, yeah, he's awaiting sentencing, but he's also made it clear that he's going to be appealing.
And, you know, I want people to understand that both Jacob Dix and Augustus Invictus, despite the differing outcomes, they made the right choice to fight this totally unconstitutional application of this law.
They were both prosecuted for their people that we know took the deal.
Took the deal.
And people, one of the things I learned during my European travels, which we'll talk about later, is the solidarity that some of these European groups have for people who are forced to go to jail for their beliefs or they're killed for their beliefs.
They called them martyrs.
And that's what Augustus Invictus is.
He's a living martyr.
And I don't want people to forget about them.
I want you to guys go onto his Twitter, send him a message, say, hey, I love you, buddy.
I support you.
He's even got a fundraiser up that's helping with his appeal cost.
And he sent that to me.
Let me get that.
It's at GiveSynGo.
GiveSyngo.com forward slash Invictus VS Virginia.
That's versus Virginia.
And I'll go ahead and post that on my Twitter and Telegram for anybody who wants to just click a link to his fundraiser.
I'm there right now.
You said it, and I've got it.
GiveSyngo.com forward slash Invictus versus Virginia.
We'll get it put out too.
But yeah, I'm here as we speak.
Thank you, Jason.
So, yeah, it's just a terrible thing because he is a stand-up guy.
All of my interactions with him over the last several years, I think I first talked to him for the first time after my own libel lawsuit back in 2016, 2017.
He's a sharp guy, has been nothing but honorable in all of our dealings, and you just hate to see something like this.
What would be, and I hate to even ask Jason, and he's here with this picture on his Give Sin Go.
I see Jacob Dix in the foreground and Augustus in the background.
What is a worst case scenario here?
Because as we know, Matt Goodwin, if I went on Matt Goodwin, Jacob Goodwin just got out of prison this week.
Am I right?
After years?
Well, I think the maximum sentence for this thing, and it's never been applied, nobody has ever been charged for this phony, made-up application of the law before, but it could be up to five years with a probably.
We'll come back and repose that question to you.
Jason Kessler, dissident.press, to get his book.
We'll be right back with the man himself.
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Folks, one more segment with Jason Kessler.
We're going to shift gears to his recent travels, which are always interesting.
But first, let me remind you that coming up in the third and final hour tonight, we're going to be presenting you with the 10th installment, because this is October, the 10th month, the 10th of 12 installments of TPC at 20, a retrospective.
Now, as you know, during this special series, we go back and we revisit Clips in honor of our 20th anniversary year next week, by the way, 20 years to the day, October 26, 2004, when we first went on the air.
But we are revisiting Clips all throughout this 20th anniversary year from some of our most memorable interviews, and we're infusing some fresh reaction and commentary to it.
So it's not just like playing it from the can.
We play excerpts and then we respond and react in real time.
But over the years, we have sure had a lot of interesting guests.
The nine we featured so far this year are interviewed with former police chief Drew Lackey, who fingerprinted Rosa Parks on the night of her arrest.
And he wrote a book, Another View of the Civil Rights Movement.
He went on to become the chief of police at Montgomery, Alabama.
Very interesting interview.
In February, Anthony Kumiya, before he was the Anthony Kumiya who is going to be speaking at Amrin next month, he was just coming out on some of these issues, and we got him years ago to talk about it.
March Zelchko-Glasnovich, a former major general in the Croatian War for Independence, very interesting guy himself.
In April, Walter Jones, the first member of Congress we ever interviewed back in 2012, a Republican who was a member of Congress, a sitting member of Congress, who was against the Iraq war.
Very interesting.
There too, Sonny Landam in May, the former movie star, Predator, 48 Hours, good friend of ours.
We stayed in touch with him to his death, friend of the family.
Next time you watch Predator, know that that Indian was a lot more based than most white people are these days.
In June, Donald Trump Jr.
Hutton Gibson in July, Mel Gibson's dead.
August, Ray Stevens, and last month, one of the interviews with Pat Buchanan.
Tonight, we're going to revisit, this is really something, interview with Godfrey Dulias, who was a lieutenant in the Luftwaffe.
We interviewed him in 2007, right before his 82nd birthday.
If you think you know these people, you don't.
You need to listen to the third hour.
But right now, we've got Jason Kessler.
And Jason, I want to talk to you about your trip.
Just give me 30 seconds on this.
I never could reconcile how people like Jacob Goodwin went to prison for years in the immediate aftermath of Charlottesville, but many years later, they decided to go after Augustus Invictus.
Very interesting.
Now, it's just due to the internal politics in Charlottesville.
There's this viper's den at the University of Virginia filled with very resentful left-wing activists.
And especially in that UVA law department, they just sit there and cook up novel legal theories on how to take away people's free speech rights.
That is literally what they do.
And the fruit of their hideous labor is evident in the Invictus case, but also in all of the Roberta Kaplans of the country who are reinterpreting old statutes to basically take away free speech rights and persecute white people.
Well, I see a big contribution has just come in to Augustus Invictus's Gives and Go.
Hopefully that's somebody listening tonight.
But if you want to support this man, gives and go.com/slash Invictus versus Virginia.
Jason, the last time we had you on to talk about some of your travels, you were on for a full hour and even that wasn't enough.
There's no way to shorten it into seven minutes.
We're running a little bit over tonight, but you just went to Rome, to Egypt, to Greece.
Give us the Cliff's Notes takeaways in about five or six minutes.
Go, Jason.
Well, as a white identitarian going back to Europe or going to Europe for the first time is a little bit like an adoptive child meeting their biological family for the first time.
You realize like where everything in your culture and your identity comes from in the very language.
It's an eye-opening experience.
And my trip this time was specifically focused on the roots of European civilization.
So I went and saw the ruins of ancient Rome and Rome.
I went to Prague, which was a little bit different.
I was just revisiting that.
But I went to Egypt, to Cairo, and saw the pyramids, where, of course, the Greeks and the Romans had been to and conquered in the past.
And the obelisks are still part of the American iconography today at the Washington Monument.
And then Greece, I went to the island of Crete and saw the palace of Gnosos, which is Minoan.
Minoans are the very first known European civilization.
I really felt like I was getting in touch with my heritage.
You also had, I follow Jason on social media, specifically Telegram.
And when he takes one of these trips, I check it and come on, Jason, post more, I think to myself.
But you went to Egypt and for a song, you got right up on the pyramids.
You had your own little loft there as opposed to, of course, Rome, which was much more commercial and touristy and all of that.
Now, I know it's a first world versus second world, and you had the problems with the third world in Egypt with the panhandlers and the beggars and things like that.
But give us a compare and contrast on that.
And then close out.
You went to an island, if I'm not mistaken, really where Western civilization was born.
You were right there at the Parthenon and some of these other iconic structures in the history of our civilization.
And I think that was perhaps the most reflective time for you on your trip.
But take it, Jason, in any way you can.
Well, Rome, you've got to see.
I mean, you can just get right up close to everything, the Colosseum.
You can literally walk up and touch it at night as the lights flood on this magnificent piece of history.
And there's these arches, the Arch of Titus celebrating the conquest of Judea.
Everything's there.
And it's a very romantic place.
If you're thinking about going someplace for an anniversary or whatever, there's musicians on the street playing songs.
And everybody I saw was having a great time.
But you do have to keep in mind, I went to Athens and Rome.
These are cities which the sites are beautiful and filled with nice white people.
Around some of the bad neighborhoods, there's druggies, there's Africans, just like scavengers of the third world going through trash, shooting up heroin needles.
So it's a little bit of heaven and hell, and that you just got to be aware to stay away from the bad areas.
As far as Giza, Giza was a fantastic value because there's these hotels that are called like Pyramid View.
There's five of them.
And I got one for like $27 a night.
Private room, air condition.
And you go up on the roof and at night, you just have a perfect, unobstructed, I mean totally unobstructed view of these pyramids.
And you can just sit there and meditate.
And it is so beautiful.
Sometimes they put lights, green, red on the pyramids, and it never gets old.
You just sit there and take a breath.
I mean, one of the wonders of the ancient world.
You were right there.
I mean, you went to the Coliseum.
You went to the pyramids and you were right there on them.
You could touch them.
You were there.
And then you went to the dawn of our civilization.
You went to where Socrates was held as a prisoner.
We got about a minute remaining.
Talk about this island community you went to take all the way to the prison of Socrates was in Athens, but I first went to the island of Crete.
That's where the Minoan civilization is.
And you talk, if you're a beach person, you can find the most beautiful, secluded beaches.
I don't like being around a lot of people at the beach.
I like clear waters and quiet, and you can find it there.
Some of those roads are kind of wild, man.
It's not like America.
Some of these roads seem like they're way too narrow.
There's no guardrails.
You know, it's a little bit of an adrenaline rush.
But when you find these beaches, it's so incredible.
And it's nothing but Germans and Greeks.
Nobody else, just Germans and Greeks.
They're so friendly.
They're so honest.
I left the trunk of my rental car open like a dummy once for hours.
Nobody touched anything.
Like no fences, like barely any security cameras.
Nobody but white people.
Until you live something like that, you will never know what you're missing because we're so used to being forced into diversity in America.
We can't conceive of what it's like to be in an environment like that.
Jason, the importance of this trip, we have seconds remaining.
I could have gone a full hour with you.
I think the last time we talked about your travels, we did go for a full hour.
It was wrapping up not this year's, but last year's March Around the World series, where we feature exclusively international guests.
But we had you on because you had just traveled so extensively abroad.
And we went a full hour and it wasn't enough time.
We didn't do it justice tonight, but we had to talk about the election.
We had to talk about Charlottesville.
But with this, wrap up this.
The importance of people taking trips like this, if they can.
Why?
Well, first of all, it looks so much better than it does on a computer or on a TV.
It is no comparison.
It puts you in touch with who you are as a human being.
It's one of those, they call it a bucket list for a reason because it's one of these things that a lot of people feel like they have to do before they die.
And it feels like you've been given a gift, like you've accomplished something when you've seen these things.
And for me, I even got to get in touch with some European nationalists and understand their perspective.
And I think that that is so important to understand the struggles that they're going through at the same time as we have our own here in America.
A true Renaissance man, activist, author, traveler, Jason Kessler, dissident.press to get his book.
Jason, it's always good to talk to you.
Thanks for coming on tonight.
I thought you were a great addition to the program tonight with David.
And thank you for taking the time.
I know you just got back from a long trip and you're travel weary, and so we appreciate it.
And we'll talk to you again soon.
It's been fun.
Thanks for having me on.
Always is, Jason.
Take care.
When we come back, third and final hour, the 10th out of 12 installments, year's almost over.
Godfrey Dulias, you're not going to want to miss this one, folks.