June 1, 2024 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is the Political Cesspool.
The Political Cesspool, going across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
First night of June, Saturday, June 1st, the temperatures are rising outside, and we're absolutely on fire here.
Rich Hamblin tells me I lose my southern accent when I talk fast, but my God, there's never enough time.
And I have really been trying to catch my breath tonight.
So much I wanted to cram in during the time we had during that when we revisited the Donald Trump Jr. interview in the first hour.
There was stuff that just got cut out that I couldn't get to Greg Johnson as he appeared live in the last hour.
And we're staying busy, and I don't see the pace slowing down any as we turn the corner here this last half of the year and head into November.
Well, like I said, the second half of this year will not be anticlimactic, even though the first half was a barn burner.
Well, yeah, it's amazing what you can get used to.
I mean, you're looking at this unprecedented thing with Donald Trump and all these trials and the weaponization of the White House and the justice system and all of this to go after political opponents like you see in Haiti or something.
But you've just gotten used to that.
So you're just waiting for the next big thing.
I mean, it's just amazing.
But we'll see.
And whatever happens, we'll be here.
But there's just so much going on.
And, you know, TPC is just so well connected and got our hands in a lot of pies.
And we just know a lot of people, a lot of people that a lot of folks aren't talking to or, you know, just can't talk to.
But one of the guys that I've really enjoyed getting to know better over the course of the last year or so, a little longer than a year, really, is former Congressman Steve Stockman.
Now, this guy has just, we're not going to rehash his entire background.
Not to be confused with David Stockman, by the way.
It is a political tall tale.
The fact that he was, he served in Congress twice, two different single terms from two different districts.
The first time they gerrymandered him out of office.
They redrew his lines.
And then the second time, they put him in prison.
And he was serving some of the hardest time.
I didn't even know how hard the time was he was serving.
And then Trump commuted his sentence.
Now, he made his first appearance, Congressman Stockman did, on TPC back in February of 2023.
Okay, so a year, year and a half ago almost.
And then he was back on in November of last year.
It was right before Thanksgiving.
So it was a fun holiday weekend show.
And he and I talked for an hour last November on the show about what he experienced while serving in Congress on two separate occasions in two separate districts, nearly two decades apart.
It's a real incredible political story.
And then he was on with me when I was in Orlando with Steve King earlier this year.
Steve and I, you know, we were at Disney World.
We were just having a good time.
We were four days together speaking at events.
But Steve was on the show that night, and Steve Stockman was on with him.
Now, these two guys were friends when they were in Congress.
The second time Stockman was in Congress, Steve King had arrived on the scene by that point.
So they became good friends, and we actually reunited them on the radio that night.
And that was just a lot of fun.
But that was back in February of this year.
Well, a month before TPC's 20th anniversary conference, Sam Bushman had a conference of his own in Las Vegas.
And Steve Stockman spoke at it.
And I said, Well, if Steve Stockman's going to be there, let me call Steve King.
So they actually got back together in person for the first time since they were in Congress.
And it was just a wonderful thing.
But they weren't the only ones there.
General Michael Flynn was there.
General Flynn was there.
And it was a big-time conference in Las Vegas about three weeks before the Political Cessibles conference two weeks ago.
And I called, was talking with Steve Stockman earlier this week, and I was going to have him on.
I've been meaning, I've had it pinned on the big board here in the studio to have Steve Stockman on to talk about the speech that he gave in Las Vegas.
And the title of the speech was, If you haven't been arrested by the FBI, you're not trying hard enough.
If you haven't been investigated by the DOJ, you're not trying.
These were the points he made in the speech.
And I was going to have him on tonight to talk about it, but I was texting him just moments ago.
And I said, Steve, you know, let's have you back on live in a couple of weeks.
The speech you gave was so good that I don't know as an interviewer if I can improve upon it.
Can I just play your speech tonight?
It's 15 minutes.
We're going to play it right now.
Because we did this last week with Nick Griffin, and it worked out well.
People really enjoyed hearing Nick Griffin's conference speech, and that was fun to do.
So, what we're going to do right now is we're going to play this 15-minute speech that Steve Stockman gave at Sam Bushman's conference in Las Vegas last month.
And this is how the system treats even United States congressmen that don't play ball.
I think you're going to like it.
Now, just like we did with the Donald Trump Jr. interview earlier, I'm not playing the entire speech.
We're going to start it right here where he talks about being investigated by Jack Smith.
Jack Smith, of course, the guy behind the efforts to put Trump in prison.
Here's Congressman Steve Stockman at the Las Vegas meeting that Sam Bushman put together a few weeks ago.
They took four grand juries, $22 million, to indict me.
And it took four years.
And one of the reasons they indicted me was I went after Obama.
I was the first one to call for his impeachment.
And then I showed that he was sending money to the Hakani Network, which is a terrorist network that borders Pakistan and Afghanistan.
And so what happened was after me exposing that, and also I called on Fox News, I called for the arrest of Lois Larner, and got one fan.
But right after that, two weeks later, the FBI showed up at my door.
Now, let me tell you something about the FBI.
The FBI, what you watch on TV, is not the same FBI it used to be.
They started doing what was called diversity hiring.
And anybody that listens to NPR, that's diversity hiring.
They only hire people that agree with them.
They're far left.
In fact, the woman, the FBI agent, came to my door.
Believe it or not, she left her Facebook page up.
She's hardcore left.
And it's amazing.
It's not the same thing.
You used to have to have a criminal background.
You used to have some kind of identity to which you were tied to law.
And now, frankly, most of them are hired out of social programs like women's studies and things like that.
So if you have a women's study FBI agent, I don't think they're going to follow the law or even know the Constitution.
In fact, this woman that showed up was this second-generation new immigrant who knows little of our foundations or our traditions or our heritage.
And When they picked me up, I was at the airport.
Very similar, by the way.
You see, they do the same thing over and over again.
We offered to come in, and when they picked me up, I was on my way to the airport, and they had 25 people there for me at the airport.
And they were applauding, laughing, and giggling, and took away my diabetic.
They took away my insulin, telling me that I wasn't going to have insulin anymore.
And they threw me in a cell with no restroom or bathroom and refused to let me out to use the restroom or bathroom.
And I later found out the reason why is they want you to look disheveled when they take your photograph for the press when they release it so they can see that.
And Trump had a different philosophy.
What I did in my picture, I actually smile, but you see my hair and everything's messed up because that's the reason why they want to present you in the worst light.
On the way to the court, one of the guys in the back seat kept saying talking about the wall.
Now, remember, I was just arrested and charged with, like they did with Trump, they stacked the charges, 27 felonies.
It was over 500 years in prison.
By the way, I told my wife that I got convicted of 500 years.
I was only going to do half the time.
Actually, it ended up the conviction ended up being 283 years.
But so what I'm here to tell you is that they're taking away.
I want to talk a little bit about the people that are here.
This is really serious.
Because if you watch, they're systematic, the left has systematically taken down our defenses.
The police are being attacked.
The conservative lawyers all trying to get their license removed.
In fact, they're successful with Giuliani and also successful friend out in California.
It's systematically taken away our defenses.
And the sheriffs are the last defense that they're going to go after.
And we need to make this organization bigger and stronger, and more people need to join it.
If this organization is not expanded, this nation is in real trouble.
I hope by the next meeting you triple your size.
They need to hear what people are saying.
They're elected.
That's what a threat is.
That's the problem for the left.
They don't like elections.
You hear Biden all the time talking about democracy elections.
In the meantime, he won't debate his opponents.
He's kicked off people that are on the ballot.
They're trying to kick Trump off the ballot.
Is that the definition of having open, honest elections?
And then they systematically, Jack Smith systematically organizes three court cases with 90 felonies.
Honestly, this is insane.
So I just have to tell you this.
They're going after you, and Trump's really right.
He said they're going after me, but they're really after you.
And when you have, I can't remember how, Steve, how many Steve King, by the way, is a great American, isn't he?
We love him.
Steve King, he was so funny.
I said, Steve, you can go interview with the New York Times.
Yeah, I'll be okay.
And they lie.
Oh, I know.
If they're here, you guys are liars.
Don't tell the truth.
Let's be honest.
So the thing is, is that they're coming after you, and you guys really need.
In fact, there's a guy here named Doug.
Oh, there he is.
Give him a check.
He's running in Idaho, which, by the way, is a I'm from Texas.
I think Idaho is a beautiful state.
The other thing, too, Steve, I got to tell you this, it's really puzzling to you guys are talking about CO2.
I represented 87 refineries.
Our area down in Houston, Texas makes almost all the gasoline for the United States.
And If a communist or something sinks a ship near Houston, you guys will be running on fumes.
The thing that's so bizarre to me, Steve, I don't know if you know this, but we're short on CO2.
They use in those refineries, they use CO2.
So why aren't they just shipping it down to us?
I think it's a political scam.
Just like in these Dutch farmers, they're destroying.
People don't realize Holland's one of the biggest providers of foods.
They're destroying the food in Ukraine.
They're destroying the food in Holland.
These people are sick.
They're mentally sick.
And we need to stop them.
And if I can risk my, by the way, our friend Dana Robacher told me what I was doing, a congressman from California.
How many know Dana?
No one noticed Dana.
Dana's great.
Okay, we got two fans over there.
Steve's a great fan.
Dana told me, he said, Steve, they're either going to kill you or lock you up.
Stop what you're doing.
Then I had another Democrat congresswoman who told me, Steve, they're after you.
Shut your mouth.
Are you guys going to shut your mouth?
Are you going to shut your mouth?
Are you going to fight?
Then let's fight.
Make this conference big.
Make it mean something.
They're going to go after the sheriffs.
They're going to destroy the sheriffs because that's a threat to them.
And you watch it time and time again.
When you see someone there coming after a citizen, it's God bless these sheriffs who stood up and protected your rights.
We're losing our rights so rapidly.
And I feel so grievous about how our lawyers, that constitutional lawyers, they're going after all of them.
A lot of the lawyers that helped me, everyone from Sydney Powell to out in California.
You guys, we're in deep, deep putting right now.
And I want to tell you that I love this organization.
It is a protector of freedom.
If you love freedom, you need to expand it.
You know, it's really easy not to talk, I mean, to talk about it, talk about it, and not do anything.
And I got in trouble because I did something.
I was upset because Obama was sending a bunch of immigrants into my district that didn't vote Republican.
And now we have a county called Liberty County, and they dumped 100,000 people in a congressional district.
And most of them are not on our side.
I think we found that out, that you're starting to see the fruit that is rising up and saying death to America in our country.
Really?
Are you talking about death to America?
That's death to me.
And you're in my country.
I offer you a room in my house, and this is how you disrespect me.
I am not going to tolerate that.
And you don't need to retolerate it.
And I was giving a little talk, and so I found out someone made a trailer and they're doing a documentary on me.
I have not been able to speak because I was under the government thumb.
Trump commuted my sentence.
He didn't pardon me.
Someone said, why didn't he pardon you?
I said, because I got pardoned 2,000 years ago.
But I tell you what, my sentence was commuted, which means the government still had their thumb on me.
But now it's December 22nd of last year.
I can talk again.
It feels good.
I would like to show you the trailer they're putting together.
And if our friend back there can do it, run the trailer and tell me what you think.
The trailer, the first one, I think it is.
I don't know what you're running.
What's it said?
There you go.
Lawyers like to say our justice system is the fairest in the world.
If that's true, I pity the rest of the world.
Because in America, a small, powerful group of Washington overlords, federal prosecutors, sometimes break rules to win cases, often wrecking the lives of people who did nothing wrong.
Congressman Steve Stockman out of Texas.
Why do you want to seek him peace through this prison?
He filed his resolution to arrest Lois Looner just yesterday.
Congressman, good to see you.
These families here deserve justice and they deserve you fighting for them because somebody in the White House is lying and they want you to be quiet.
Texas Congressman is now in custody and faces years behind bars after a jury found him guilty of fraud and conspiracy charges on 23 out of 24 counts.
Steve Stockman has served 10 years in federal prison.
Stop having them intimidate you.
Stand up for our Constitution.
Fight for the Constitution.
Don't back down.
If the government wants to put you in prison, you will go to prison.
It doesn't matter whether you're innocent or not.
What do you think?
Steve, you, Steve, you make me nervous.
You raise hell.
I'm sorry.
I love my country and I hate seeing it being torn apart by a bunch of crazy, sicko leftists who are willing to lie, cheat, and steal and destroy this nation.
I'm not going to sit down and shut up.
It is the most surreal thing for me to watch actually from prison them burning down our cities, destroying our nation.
And then they said January 6th.
I think January 6th learned from everybody there.
There was no guns there.
What kind of rebellion were they didn't bring guns?
And the only person shot wasn't these five police officers talking about.
There was only one person shot.
She was demonstrating peacefully.
And that guy who shot her should be held accountable.
He shot an unarmed protester.
By the way, y'all feel comfortable like a warm bath.
It's great being here among so many friends.
I served time in prison.
Everybody goes, Was it a real prison?
Listen, they treat conservatives and Christians totally different than they treat anybody else.
It was worse.
I was put in solitary.
They shackled my hands and feet.
My ankles bled because they tightened around your ankles so you can't move and it cuts your skin.
They deprived me of food.
They deprived me of my medication.
Yes, it was a real prison.
They put me in one of the cells they put me in with psychopathic child molesters.
They do not like conservatives and they treat you that way.
Remember, the DOJ runs the prisons.
And these January 6th people, God bless them.
There's a website called American Gulag, and they got names in there.
If you can just make the smallest contributions, write them a letter.
They try to isolate you.
In fact, I give a presentation.
It's 90 minutes long.
The left, what they do is they call targeting, isolate, then chop off.
They're trying to do that with Trump.
They did it with me.
They interviewed, the FBI interviewed even car mechanics.
They spent four years to indict me and $22 million.
And there were two donors.
One of them, which many people in here room doesn't, I think knows.
It's a guy that produces a U-line catalog.
He's a great conservative guy.
If you guys ever want to buy office supplies, buy it from Dick.
But he was trashed because he's donating to conservative causes.
And there was only two.
The money that they charged me was supposedly, by the way, if you have a nonprofit, I can guarantee you, God bless you guys, they have nonprofits, but they can throw you in jail in a heartbeat.
I was in prison with a lot of other conservatives, and they were thrown in prison because of the nonprofits.
And that was Lois Lerner, who went from the Federal Election Commission over to the IRS.
And she met with Obama frequently.
And she drafted a memo saying how you can target and throw people in jail that run nonprofits that are conservative.
And they follow that manual to this day.
In fact, two of the people that she sent it to signed my indictment.
If you think that you're not, that you're protected and you're special and you're not going to, that's why they tell my title was a joke, actually, but everybody wants t-shirts now.
He says, if you're not being investigated, arrested by the FBI, then you're not trying hard enough.
Two weeks after my commutation from the president, as soon as he signed the commutation, I thought something was up.
The guard wouldn't tell me what's going on.
He said, he's from Nigeria.
We can't even get people here to work those jobs, and they pay him like $25 to $40 an hour.
He goes, put your stuff in a bag, put your stuff in a bag.
And in prison, I learned the acronym is S Special Housing Unit, which means solitary.
And they call it the shoe.
So at first, I said, shoe, what's the shoe?
And then I found out what it was.
And so all the guys are coming up to me.
It's right before Christmas.
And they're coming up to me and saying, oh, no, Steve, how they're treating you.
They're going to put you in solitary.
Again, this is terrible.
And this is after, by the way, I was there.
I'm a diabetic, as I told you.
And they filled a syringe and put my name on it, which is highly unusual.
It turned out to be fast-acting insulin.
I would have immediately gone into a coma and died.
I said, I'm not taking that.
And she goes, I don't blame you.
I wouldn't take it either.
So I thought, okay, I'm getting a special treatment.
So I'm packing my stuff up, getting ready to go into the shoe.
And I noticed a counselor there.
It's usually gone at 3 o'clock, government worker.
And he was still there.
I thought, this is really odd.
So all of a sudden he comes up to me and says, President of the United States gave you commutation.
I was like, God bless you, Drum.
It goes on a little bit from there, but that's the bulk of it.
Congressman Stockman getting emotional there at that speech in Las Vegas talking about when he found out that Trump had commuted his sentence and that he would go free.
This is a great guy.
I have, I said it again.
I really enjoyed, have really enjoyed getting to know him.
We were communicating just earlier tonight.
And when I heard that speech in Las Vegas the first time, I put a pin in it and I said, we have got to have you back on to tell this story.
And there's been a lot going on.
There's always something in the news and schedule conflicts.
And then tonight it opened up to where we could do that.
And I was thinking, well, the speech was just so good as it is.
And I think he just touches on things.
I would only mess it up by interviewing him about it.
So let's just play the speech.
So I got a copy of that and we were able to do it tonight.
And he said, yeah, that's fine.
Let's do that.
We'll talk again later.
So, but I wanted to play that because it just goes to show this system must end.
This system must end.
If you have an honest congressman who is truly going to Washington to try to serve the best interest of his constituents, this is what happened.
We heard it from Steve King.
I mean, Steve King, they, I guess, took it easy on him.
They just primaried him and got rid of him.
But because Steve Ottman was really going after him, I mean, he was filing lawsuits against some of these principal key people in the Obama administration, like Lois Lerner.
They put him in prison over campaign finance, you know, alleged campaign finance fraud for 500 years was his sentence.
And because of statutes, it got pared down to what did he say in the talk?
280 years.
280 years because allegedly some money from a charity that he was involved with found its way into his campaign coffers.
Now, whether or not that's true or not, I'm sure it's not, but that's what it was.
280 years then?
And then in solitary confinement, being chained and shackled, his medicine withheld.
That's America.
That is your system, ladies and gentlemen.
That is your government.
There it is.
Steve Stockman, and he is still standing up and speaking out and has become a friend of ours.
We'll be right back.
Stay tuned.
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So responding now to that presentation by Steve Stockman, where to begin, Keith?
And we were talking about it a little bit during the break.
People often ask, you know, the rhetorical question: why I voted for this guy who I sincerely believe has beliefs that overlapped with mine.
And maybe they do.
And maybe in some cases, you live in a red state rural area.
Maybe you've got a guy who, in his heart of hearts, has some overlap with you on some of our signature issues.
Well, but then he gets in there and he disappoints.
Why did he get disappointed?
Well, first of all, I think one of the greatest interviews I've ever heard about exactly how the system works, Steve King laid it out in his first appearance with us a couple of years ago.
Steve's been on with us at least a half dozen times.
Steve King.
And he tells you exactly how they pressure you, how they try to incentivize you to do this or do that, and all the different techniques that they have in Washington to get you to be a quote-unquote team player.
And when all that fails, you get the treatment that our friends Steve and Steve got.
They either will get you, you know, get you, they'll withhold the money so you lose in a primary, or in the case of Stockman, he really went a bridge too far and they put him in prison and they nearly killed him.
Yeah, if he'd taken that shot that they had prepared for him, he would have died oh so conveniently right before he stepped out of prison.
See, this is, you ask what would happen if you got a real advocate for our positions into office.
Steve Stockman is the answer.
They would put you into a gulag.
They would put you into a prison like you're in some third world country and deny you food, put you in solitary confinement, try to break you, then try to poison you as you're about to step out of the prison.
See, this is what America has come to.
Our whole Anglo-Saxon legal system has been thrown out the window.
And we've got a bad, bad situation, something that is, you know, inconceivable for people that grew up in the America of the 1950s, for example.
It's just an incredible thing.
And Steve Stockman shows that they will not stop.
They have no sense of self-restraint.
They have no sense of discretion or propriety.
They will kill you if they can.
And they tried to kill him.
Apparently.
Apparently.
Now, it could have been a mistake.
Maybe they didn't know, you know, who knows?
But he said, I can't take that.
But it wasn't just that.
There were so many little nuggets in his talk.
His talk, again, I wanted to have him on tonight to talk about the new documentary coming out about his imprisonment, Patriot Prisoner, the Steve Stockman story.
And again, I just didn't think we could do better than play his speech in its entirety.
We'll have him back on again soon.
But he's talking about, you know, when he got arrested by the FBI, 25 of them sent for a sitting congressman.
He was in office at the time.
And these are people that have no background in law enforcement, but rather have degrees in gender studies.
These are your field agents coming to arrest people who oppose immigration, oppose illegal immigration.
Celebrate diversity.
And being put in solitary confinement here and there and being shackled to the wall, all of this stuff.
A former United States Congressman.
I'm not saying that there's not some congressmen that maybe deserve that treatment, but he wasn't one of them.
Not because he stands up for the rule of law and the Constitution, wants to limit immigration, illegal immigration.
And this whole thing, again, because of a supposed misallocation of funds from a charity to his campaign, 280 years in prison.
I mean, what kind of system is this?
I mean, that is third world, big time.
It's not the American system.
And we need to, you know, not only make America great again, we've got to take America back again.
And he talked about, you know, just the corruption of the system.
He mentioned that.
He mentioned January 6th, which was an applause line there at that conference, mentioning, you know, what happened to the guy who, you know, the only person who died on January 6th in the Capitol was the woman who was shot.
What happened to that guy?
He got a promotion.
So he got a raise.
See, this cannot be allowed to stand, folks.
We've got to get Trump in there, and we've got to then pressure him to pardon all of these people, let them out, and furthermore, to go after the people that are responsible for those miscarriages of justice.
All right.
Now, another thing that I'll mention is that in his talk, you heard, again, that wasn't even, I mean, the point was, I think, you know, to talk about, hey, if you're not getting investigated, you're not trying hard enough because this is what happens when you really step out and cause good trouble, you know, to use one of their slogans.
But he mentioned that in a competitive district, they just dumped in 100,000 so-called refugees, 100,000 to swing a congressional district.
And he actually did an interview with the Gateway pundit, Congressman Stockman, did, in which he was talking about the situation in Gaza, that they're using this to bring over more people that they can dump in some of these vulnerable districts and areas.
Well, why do you think that Gavin Newsom, the governor of California, has no objection to having all these immigrants dumped into his state?
Well, let me explain it to you.
All these solid citizen types, the types that pay their taxes, are leaving, fleeing California as fast as they can.
Well, he doesn't care who replaces them, except that he doesn't want any white Anglo-Saxon Protestants in there.
He wants to get people that can be dependent upon to vote for the Democrats.
And furthermore, by getting these people in there, all these people that really don't belong in America in the first place, he keeps up the population of California so they do not lose any congressmen or women.
They continue to have the same numbers, even though the quality of the people there is a sad falling off.
You're trading millionaires for welfare recipients.
All right.
So we will follow up with Steve Stockman live on the program soon.
But an election year, we'll get both of the Steves back on before November, to be sure.
But I want to, speaking of the election, and this was, we haven't really covered a lot of current news items, but I would like to work this one in very quickly here.
Another unexpected assist, I guess, or a sensible thing coming from maybe an unlikely source.
This has been all over the news, almost as much as Donald Trump Jr.'s interview with us was.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. says he opposes the removal of Confederate monuments.
And this one just happens to be CBS news, but it's been everywhere.
Independent presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. says he opposed the removal of Confederate statues, recalling that he had a, quote, visceral reaction against the destruction of monuments honoring Southern leaders from the Civil War, end quote.
The top Confederate general Robert E. Lee had, quote, extraordinary qualities of leadership that deserve to be celebrated, Kennedy said Friday, last Friday in an interview.
And he talks about that there were heroes of the Confederacy.
And, you know, I just have a visceral reaction to this destroying of history.
I don't like it.
I think we should celebrate who we are, and we should celebrate the good qualities of everybody.
If we celebrated only those who have been completely virtuous, we would erase all of history.
Can't argue with any of that.
Didn't expect him to say it.
I mean, he is good on some things, and he's wacky on some things.
He's certainly interesting on all things, but that, you know, he didn't have to do that.
Well, as Paul Harvey said at the end of each show and now, or the beginning of each show and now for the rest of the story, you're right.
He is right on that particular issue.
But you have to look at the fact that he has the same Kennedy craziness regarding racial issues generally.
For example, he is for reparations.
I don't want anybody that listens to this show to make the mistake of voting for Robert Kennedy.
On the other hand, I would love people that are otherwise going to vote for Joe Biden to vote for him.
I hope he gets into the, you know, on the ballot ballot access in every state.
So, you know, I was just looking at that, actually, Keith.
We were looking at that during the last break.
The states, uh, here we are now halfway through the year, and these ballot access requirements have deadlines.
And as of right now, he's on less than half the state ballots.
I mean, we were way-I mean, Pat was on, I think, 49 ballots.
We got Pat on 49 ballots.
I personally was one of 10 people who got him on the ballot here in Tennessee, going out working for weeks to collect signatures.
And so, I know a little bit about this, and the ballot access requirements vary wildly from state to state.
In some states, you have to have a certain percentage of the overall number of voters, you have to pay tens of thousands of dollars, and some states, you just have to get a very small amount of signatures.
But so, it does vary wildly.
But I was looking at the number of states that he's on the ballot, and it isn't anything where you could even pretend to be competitive.
I think you're looking at like 15, 20 states.
Well, he needs to be on every swing state, every one of the five states that are, you know, basically undetermined.
Hard to run for president if you're not on the ballot.
On the other hand, I think that if he does not get on every state's ballot, that will cut into his percentage of the vote, and that is that's key.
He's on some, but if he can get 10% of the Democrat vote, Trump should win.
I know by this time in 2000, it was pretty much wrapped up for Pat on ballot access.
But anyway, you think a guy that had so much more money would have been a little further.
Maybe some of the rules have changed, it's more stringent, but that was a quarter of a century ago.
We'll be right back.
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Now here we are, the first Saturday in June, and we're red hot and rolling.
Think if you had it on your list to hear from Donald Trump Jr., Greg Johnson, and Steve Stockman in a single show.
I don't know anywhere else on our side you could get that, but here.
But it's certainly been fun to present to you tonight.
And we go back, we have fun, and we've got a lot of connections.
So, Keith, before we get down to the last couple of minutes of the program, anything else you want to share or cover tonight?
Well, you know, the Donald Trump trial, it's just incredible.
You know, I really wonder sometimes if it would not be better if New York, California, New York City, Chicago, as Greg Johnson called them, blue tumors on America, on America's body politic, if we wouldn't be better off if those places did secede.
If we could persuade them, if we could bribe them to secede, I would be fine with it.
Yeah, well, I mean, that would be, that's almost too good to be true type of proposition, and it probably is, although.
But on the other hand, like Greg said, you know, the 19th nervous breakdown, they're just about, like he said, they've been in high dudgeon for so long that, you know, it has to be, you know, they must be on the verge of a nervous breakdown if they're not on anything.
And if Trump gets in and they want to go, don't let the door hit you in the ass when you leave.
Anything that increases the political stress level can induce people making mistakes.
And I think the left has made a lot of mistakes, some wild overreactions to the threat posed by Trump.
The whole George Floyd stuff, the way the media and the powers that be got that kicked off.
I mean, the effect of that was it woke up so many millions of Americans to racial realities.
We could have never done that.
It is their overreaction to Trump time and time and time and time and time again.
And that is why, yes, I think all things being equal, he goes in there for another four years, continues to cause them to make mistakes that have stemmed from their overreaction.
And they're just really just blind hatred of him as the avatar for what he represents, white America, that they will continue to do that, and that will continue to be good for us metapolitically.
Well, the thing about Trump that both the right and the left need to understand if they want to understand the truth is that he does not have an ideology.
He does not have a coherent worldview.
He has opinions, and his opinions are random.
Some of his opinions are far left, some of them are far right, and some of them are all over the board.
And you just don't, you know, if you're looking for consistency, you're looking in the wrong place if you're looking for Donald Trump.
And if you're saying, well, he's going to get in there and be worse on Israel than Biden.
Well, it very well might.
But, you know, they're both going to be bad on that.
You know, as far as we're, my personality.
We don't have a good option on that issue.
But, you know, and that was covered with Greg Johnson in the previous hour.
But for all the other things, you could, look, Bill Rowland told me this.
I've never forgotten this.
This is one of his pearls of wisdom.
People can justify anything.
And we talk about this a lot.
If you're looking for a reason not to support somebody, you can always find one.
But there are reasons to support.
And again, the chaos, raising the political stress level.
He's doing a lot to awaken people on the realities of what multiculturalism looks like.
Even as he goes to New York and says, it doesn't matter what the hell color you are and all of that.
He's going to do that.
We know that about Trump.
There's nothing new that we haven't learned about him over the course of the last 10 years.
But that being said, I think it would be in our best interest that this party that he's throwing goes on four years longer.
And the only way that happens is if he gets elected because he's not going to be able to run again when he's 85 or 82 or 83 or however old he'll be in four years.
So that's that.
Although he certainly looks a lot healthier than Biden.
I mean, my God, Biden.
Anyway.
So that's where we are at with that.
And here's where we are with this.
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