Nov. 4, 2023 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is the Political Cesspool.
The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
Even after all of these years, ladies and gentlemen, I, well, I still love every show.
I look forward to every Saturday night that we can spend together, no matter what the conditions, no matter what the circumstance, a regular show in the middle of the year, a holiday show, a Confederate History Month show, a March Around the World broadcast.
I look forward to it all.
But I would be disingenuous if I told you that nights like this don't give me a little bit extra pep in my step.
When we can all be here together, obviously it just adds a little bit more.
I cannot deny that.
Being in the presence here, and now we are all in the same room.
Michael Hill, Kevin McDonald, Simon Roche.
You've heard from all of them tonight already individually.
Now you will hear from them in tandem.
And what I'm going to do this hour is play a very minimal part in this hour, existing just to sort of take us in and out of breaks and maybe just throw a topic in for them to dissect.
But that's going to be my contribution this hour.
But it has been an honor to broadcast to you live from this League of the South event and to present the other speakers that were there today.
You've heard from each of them, all three of them now.
And what we're going to be doing this final hour is teaming them up with one another.
So you're going to hear now from both Kevin McDonald and Michael Hill in conversation.
But before we you know what?
I think, gentlemen, I would like to toss it to you right now just to have you converse with one another.
And then we're going to play that clip that I had foreshadowed in the next segment because we have about five or six minutes left this segment.
We'll have about 10 minutes in the next segment and that'll give us time to go into that.
I'm not going to tell you what I'm laughing about.
Maybe on Eddie's show.
Anyway, Michael Hill and Kevin McDonald together now live.
Gentlemen, where do we begin?
I toss it entirely over to you.
Michael?
Well, as I said today, years ago when I read Kevin's, the first book I read of Kevin's, A People That Shall Dwell Alone, I never dreamed that I would even have a chance to know Kevin, much less be his compatriot and friend.
But hey, here we are.
It's a wonderful blessing.
I don't know.
It's just great to have all these people together, all these people that bring so much different to the table, so many different angles and approaches to the things that we need to discuss, getting the truth out there.
So I feel like we had a good weekend of doing that.
And certainly Kevin and Simon and yourself, James, really, really played a major role in doing that.
We'll have these videos up.
I was just talking to our editors a few minutes ago before I came back to get on the show.
And she said we would have our stuff edited and ready within a week to 10 days.
So you'll be seeing these things soon.
Can't wait for it.
I'm not mic'd up, though.
So you and him talk together.
What would you want to talk with him about?
Oh, man, I'll tell you what.
When Kevin McDonald is on, I've just stepped back and let him talk.
I appreciate that, Mike.
You've done a great job with your organization down here.
And it's really inspiring, you know, to come down here and listen to you and other people here because you don't go to too many things like that, and it's great.
And God, we need patriots more than ever.
And I think things are going our way in a way, but we have such a long way to go, and I'm very, very concerned.
If I could borrow the mic from you, just for a moment, I would offer this to y'all as like the hockey official dropping the puck during a face-off, except y'all are both on the same team here.
Joe Biden, according to their numbers, and it's probably much more than this if you count getaways and people that they aren't counting, but 8 million illegal aliens have streamed over the border since Biden's inauguration, according to their numbers.
That is equivalent to the collective population of nine U.S. states, Maine, Montana, Rhode Island, Delaware, South Dakota, North Dakota, Alaska, Vermont, Wyoming, in three years.
I mean, the population of Wyoming alone, which has two senators, is about half of metropolitan Shelby County, which is the greater Memphis area, which is by no means one of our biggest cities.
Biden in three years has swamped nine states collectively.
Take it from there, gentlemen.
Well, and the thing I think you need to pay attention to about this, James, is the fact that normally when you have a refugee population coming into a country, it's men, women, children, you know, old, young.
What we've seen coming across the border largely are military-age, brown and black people who are coming in here, and you can't tell me that that is not a coordinated effort on somebody's part to do this.
And my question is, where do the arms come from and when do they take them up against us?
Well, I do think that is exactly what is going on.
Yet if you talk about the great replacement, they call it anti-Semitic, racist, and everything else, and go absolutely crazy because they know it's true, but they have to keep repeating this lie over and over again.
Yeah, I think that's true.
I mean, it's beyond a shadow of a doubt now that the conspiracy, I guess you might call it, a white replacement, is an absolutely, absolute fact.
It's absolutely true.
But the thing that, as I mentioned, has always really concerned me is the fact that you don't see very many females.
You don't see very many children or old men.
You just see these men who are military age.
I mean, why is this?
I mean, normally when you see people fleeing a war zone, you see them taking their women and children with them.
But if they're coming here to do mischief, they're sending their men who are able to do the mischief.
And I think that's exactly what's happening right now.
And sooner or later, we're going to see the rotten fruits of this whole policy come to fruition.
Well, I think that the left is preparing for any of the worst case scenario, a civil war.
They purged the military.
They have done what they can with the local police departments.
That's one thing they don't like, the fact that they're so diverse and they're not under one command.
That's what they want.
They want everything to be centralized.
You could much more easily control things from one place in Washington, D.C. than 10,000 police departments around the country.
They have Persian military and they, as you say, recruiting all these people to come over.
And they are fighting age, and they anticipate they'll fight against us.
They'd be happy to.
I'm sure the money will be there and everything else.
Well, absolutely.
And, you know, when you consider the fact that you've got military-age men coming over like this, I mean, that's almost inevitable that it's going to happen, that there's going to be some kind of event that sparks something approaching a civil war.
And the only thing that makes me optimistic about this is to know here in the South is that we have a lot of people, males, mainly, you know, 18 to 70, who know how to use weapons.
Well, I know you're not, I know nobody in this room is in their 70s, but I tell you what, everybody's fit as a fiddle and ready for whatever is to come.
The music is playing.
We'll be right back.
I'm going to toss some red meat out to these two junkyard dogs and let them eat it up when we come back.
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Ladies and gentlemen, Christmas has come early.
I feel like a kid in a candy shop, a 43-year-old kid in a candy shop, being able to just sit in tonight and broadcast to you live from an event like this and surrounded by the kind of talent and the kind of heroes that we have brought to you this evening.
Simon Roche, Kevin McDonald, Michael Hill.
Maybe you match it.
You don't top it.
And that's what we're doing tonight.
Now, I want our esteemed guests who are conversing with each other this first half hour of our third and final hour to listen to a clip.
But before we do, and I'm going to toss Kevin my headset before we do, but Michael, you had the opportunity, you said, you know, sometimes people ask me, James, what media outlets have covered you?
And the answer is it'd be quicker for me to tell you the ones that haven't.
And you were around, I mean, the League of the South kind of started in 1994.
And in that day and age, and through the next decade plus, it wasn't unusual for people like you and Jared Taylor and Peter Brimlow and others to get this sort of mainstream publicity.
You actually had the opportunity to go on Glenn Beck's show.
Yeah, I was on there, I think, twice on his TV show.
And is he a guy we can win with?
No, absolutely not.
I realize that, well, I'll use this word in place of the word I was going to use.
He's a wimp.
He just doesn't have any testosterone.
The word Michael wanted to use rhymed with wussy.
Yes, exactly.
He has no testosterone.
And I understood.
So what was the engagement like when he interviewed you?
Was it hostile?
He's hostile to you, right?
Yeah, it was hostile.
It was almost like he was afraid.
If you were a black radical, if you were a BLM, he would have treated you with a lot more courtesy and understanding.
Yeah, I think so.
It's almost like he was afraid.
Well, you were an intimidating guy.
He probably was, but I think he probably knew he needed to treat you with contempt in order to continue to maintain his position.
Although, you know, even being invited on these shows to be treated in that manner has dried up.
They don't even, they still talk about us.
They just don't talk to us.
It wasn't that long ago that Saturday Night Live did its cold open based on Michael Hill.
It was just a couple of years ago.
Did you know that, Kevin?
Cold open on Saturday Night Live.
It was the League of the South meeting.
They were all wearing that exact shirt that Michael is wearing now.
That's right.
Yeah, I mean, we just took that as a great badge of honor that they wanted to.
That's not 10, 15, 20 years ago.
That's the last couple of years.
Yeah, that was one of their actors portraying Michael Hill on Saturday Night Live.
Yeah, it was post-Charlottesville, so it was within the last five or six years.
But yeah, I mean, once they start doing that to you, that shows that they, A, know who you are, and B, probably are afraid of you.
All right.
So that being said, Glenn Beck, and I use him as an example of what not to be.
If you consider yourself as a conservative, this is the example of what you are not supposed to be.
I'm going to toss the headset back to Kevin McDonald now.
And if you could, Mr. and Mrs. Producer, let's play that Glenn Beck clip in three seconds.
Let's give Kevin enough time to get his headset on.
And in 3-2-1, we'll listen to it and let them respond.
Let's play it now.
I don't know why I was born, but there is something about the state of Israel that connects deeply to me.
To have the privilege to stand with the Jew is a tremendous honor spiritually.
So I want to read a letter that I wrote that I am sending to the state of Israel.
To Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and the honorable officials at the State of Israel.
In this moment, I have chosen to ask you for citizenship in the State of Israel.
I have nothing to offer but my voice of support.
And some might say that my support might be more valuable as an independent voice.
Perhaps they're correct.
But my request for citizenship is not about words.
It is about deeds.
Why, one might wonder, would I want to embrace a heritage and identity that is so ruthlessly hunted down again and again?
Yet it is precisely during such moments that we must choose to stand.
I anticipate no privileges or exemption from the state of Israel.
I instead yearn to align myself with those willing to rise, to fight, and sacrifice for the fundamental right to live.
Is this not what both Israel and America embody?
In closing, my desire for dual citizenship does not stem from any expectation of gain, but from a deep-rooted belief in standing with what is right and true.
Ten years ago, I took my children to Israel for the first time, but we first visited Auschwitz in Poland.
I told them, you cannot understand Israel without the Bible or Auschwitz.
May Israel remain an eternal flame of hope, a beacon of resilience, and a testament to the enduring human spirit.
I don't know why.
Kevin, is there a place that I can throw up?
Man, that is the most disgusting drivel that I've ever heard.
It's horrifying.
From a supposed Christian conservative.
Wow.
This is a guy who doesn't know anything about, say, the fact that so many Jews that are trying to undermine our country with immigration and everything else.
They don't like us.
There's this long, long history here.
And he's oblivious to it.
And as usual, talking about principles, principles.
They have no sense of their own interests.
How does this help white people, white America?
How does it help his family in the long run?
Doesn't it?
Well, another thing I'd like to address, too, is that for Southerners, Christian Southerners, a lot of whom are evangelicals, you have been sold a bill of goods in that you have been told that these modern-day Jews of the secular state of Israel are God's chosen people.
That is simply not true.
And if you study the Bible very closely, you're going to find out that the real Israel of the God of the Bible is not the modern-day Jewish state.
It is the Christian church.
And to give that distinction of God's chosen people to these people who literally killed our Lord and Savior and have persecuted the Christian church for 2,000 years and have driven it out of the public marketplace of ideas is ridiculous.
Absolutely ridiculous.
Ridiculous.
That was a major problem early in the century, the 20th century, that Henry Ford talked about, that Jews had led the campaign to get Christianity out of the public square.
And it's still going on.
And the fact is, the whole Schofield Bible, it was a project of Felix Untermeyer, promoting it in Iceford University Press.
And so this was a Jewish operation.
The whole thing was to, you know, make Israel into the sort of be-all and end-all of Christian life.
And this is what it's come to, Kevin.
If somebody tells me they're a Christian, the first thing I think of as a Christian, now I'm not saying Christians like Michael Hill are like this or that I am like this, but if you tell me, if the average guy on the street says I'm a Christian, I think you're Russell Moore.
You're Glenn Beck.
You're weak.
There's something wrong with you.
Yeah.
Well, I come at this from a Christian identity standpoint.
I've been studying the Bible and looking at these issues for several years now, and I've come to the point that Christian identity is what I believe in, and that is that God's chosen people are from the white race.
And the Jews have taken this mantle upon themselves and have used it to fool whites into basically going along with whatever Jews want to do as being God's anointed, appointed will for them to basically run the world according to their, what do they call it? Tikkodolem?
You know, healing the world.
It's a big issue when Christians have to battle other Christians because some of our biggest enemies share this faith.
Absolutely.
Yeah, they do, James.
You know, you go into any evangelical church today and you start being critical of the modern secular state of Israel.
Absolutely.
As a Christian, I mean, these people have pushed every perversion that afflicts our nation today.
Everything from porn to LGTBQ, whatever the hell, to homosexuality, to open borders, transgenderism, everything comes from them.
Can you tell me that God's people are doing this?
We'll be right back, ladies and gentlemen.
We're going to get this topic and on to more things with our featured speakers tonight at the League of the South Conference.
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Wonderful night of fellowship and camaraderie.
James Edwards, Michael Hill, Simon Roche from South Africa, Dr. Kevin McDonald with me now.
Kevin, we've been talking about a lot of different issues tonight, and there are still more to get into.
The good and the bad, the good, the bad, and the ugly, if we could.
Yemen has declared war against Israel.
I mean, there's so much that is suppressed by the American media.
Turkey has proposed an Islamic alliance against Israel.
Now, that's even a bigger deal because that's a mid-major European or somewhat European state.
I mean, it's Islamic, but I don't think Israel is going to like the end game.
I think there's a chance that Israel might not like the end game of all of this.
If not in the next few months, perhaps within the next few years, I think we could be witnessing a monumental shift.
All of this is a big deal.
So our greatest ally has single-handedly, one, ripped NATO apart, two, isolated America from its European allies, three, inflamed all 1.8 billion Muslims across the world.
Four, alienated America's legitimate allies in the region.
Five has empowered Iran.
And six is sucking us into a regional war that could become a world war.
And I don't think that that's too much of an exaggeration.
Israel is acting like a rabbit dog, and no one in America, including the president, has the power to stand up to the Israel lobby.
If Joe Biden even dared to try it, he would be shot down by the Republican Congress.
Kevin.
It's so true.
Yeah, I think that this war is going to have major repercussions because Israel and the Jewish community in America are, of course, completely standing behind Israel.
They've always been the moral paragons.
They're always telling us what is good.
The whole civil rights thing, the whole, more recently, Black Lives Matter, LGBTQ, the ADL is all in on that.
Critical race theory.
All those things that come out of the left.
And the Jews, the Jewish community in America basically funds and dominates the left in the media and all that.
So here we are.
And I think a lot of Americans who have a brain in their head are going to start thinking that Jews aren't as nice a people as they are presented.
And someone like Glenn Beck is just completely blind spot here.
He just does not see the reality of these people.
And of course, we know some history, we know about the role of Jews in Bolshevism and mass murder and all that.
We know that Jews are not nice people, that the left has a strong authoritarian bent.
And, you know, we can imagine gulags in our future, you know, once they get as much power as they had then.
And that's what they would love to do.
Let's go.
No show is complete here at TPC without quoting Brad Griffin.
Brad Griffin is the Abernathy to my king.
When I plagiarize somebody, unlike Dr. King, I give them full attribution.
And so we quote Brad every week.
He's got a great take on things at Occidental Dissent, as you have at theOccidentalObserver.net, of course, OccidentalObserver.net, theOccidentalObserver.net, a daily read of mine for sure.
But this is why Brad Griffin writes that he is not black-pilled.
He is not black-pilled for the following reason.
American support for our greatest ally, and that's in all capital letters, is shallow even at the peak.
It is shallow, Kevin.
I mean, let's take the Republican Congress, the Republican House out of the mix.
Nationwide, it is shallow, even at its peak.
Brad continues, as we saw with the situation in Ukraine, it's only going to get worse from here as the shock wears off.
Young people who could be drafted to fight and die in a war with Iran for Israel are not buying into the narrative.
I think in large parts across the world, we're shielded from this by the controlled environment of the American media.
Large swaths of the world, the global media, Israel's losing the narrative.
Oh, absolutely.
Absolutely.
And especially in the Islamic world.
But I think, you know, certainly Russia and China are going to take advantage of this and start really painting America as the evil empire and massively hypocritical.
Their wall-to-wall support for Israel, an apartheid, ethnic cleansing state.
It just can't cover it up.
And if we had the media that was informed in our, you know.
An objective media.
A who-what, where, when, and why press.
That's all we're asking for.
We don't want people in the tank for our press.
Who were wear-when, and why?
That's all.
Just the facts.
Just talk about these things.
But that's a bridge too far.
I mean, the conservatives, oh, the conservative media is just absolutely, just horrifying.
Glenn Beck is on this issue.
They are worse than the left.
And then they are worried worse than the left.
On this issue.
Yeah.
Maybe not on any other issue.
Sometimes I wonder, apart from the religious thing, that maybe they're trying to sort of get cover by cozying up to the Jews because they have the moral high ground and conservatives are routinely dismissed as Nazis and everything else.
It's a way of gaining.
You've never been called that.
Oh, never.
It's a way of gaining some credibility and some moral stature, which is so important in our society.
We want the people who occupy the moral high ground, really the people that dominate the people.
I think that's what you said today.
It's the currency of the realm.
That was a major point I'm making, that in our society, it's a moral high ground is absolutely critical because people want to conform to the media.
They want to be good people.
They want to have a good reputation.
And what's the worst reputation you can have now?
Well, you oppose immigration, you don't like Black Lives Matter, all that stuff.
You are ashamed.
You're ostracized from polite society, and we just have to face up.
That's the way it is.
But we got to seize the moral high ground.
This is a problem for Israel.
And it's a problem for the American Jewish community.
I see it in my own ex-university.
But they can't see it.
They do not have the self-awareness to see when they are pushing too hard, too fast, pushing.
It's the Moby Dick analogy.
Yeah.
Yeah, they've often said that Jews tend to overstep.
And this is a good example.
But I think they want to speed it up because they are concerned that white people are waking up.
They want to have it now.
And that's why they shipped 8 million people over the border.
And that's why they keep pushing this agenda.
And 8 million wipes out the voting population of nine states at least.
Because Wyoming is the entire population of Wyoming, which commands two Senate seats, is smaller than Metropolitan Memphis, which is a mid-major city.
That's the way it is.
They want power, and they are absolutely going for it as fast as they can and with absolutely no scruples.
They will not lose the next election.
Hook everybody crooked.
Assassination, whatever.
Well, I mean, between Trump and prison drop boxes where you can just harvest your ballots and put them in that little box for people to find.
If you go to a polling place, you have to show an ID.
You have to match the face to the name.
Drop box balloting, all of that stuff.
You got all of that.
They'll probably rehash COVID again next year.
Who knows?
COVID was the best thing that ever happened.
And it was very timely, wasn't it?
Very timely.
And, yeah, as you say, like Secretary of State of Michigan, this Jewish woman, Nussbaum, she just says, well, the signature looks vaguely sort of like.
Well, see, when I go to vote, and I'm a white man, so I vote.
I have voted in every election since I turned 18.
But I always go to the polling place on election day.
I don't mail it in.
I don't even early vote.
I go in, and you know what happens when I go in?
They ask me to present my ID.
They look at me.
They look at my ID.
They look at my signature.
And then they say I can go vote.
What is this drop box stuff for any representation?
In Idaho, you have to show up at the polling place, show them your ID, and then you get.
Well, that's because Idaho is a white state.
That's right.
It's a white state, and they're very concerned about it.
Getting an absentee ballot is difficult.
They're not that concerned about it in New York or Philadelphia or Atlanta, and these are the swing states.
That's racist to be concerned about the basics of having a fair election.
That's the reality we face now.
Brother Love can go through his congregation at the Missionary Baptist church there and say, everybody sign here and vote for you.
And it will drop it off in the box.
Black people, you say you're a white person, you always do all this.
Well, a lot of those black people don't really want to vote.
You have to go out to them and get their votes.
Well, it's certainly too much to ask that they show up at a certain place at a certain time.
You got to give them a month of early voting.
If that's not enough, they can mail it in or just drop it off.
And of course, if you say that they should have an ID, that's racist.
It's crazy.
Tell me one, you know, when they talk about this as it's racist, because more black people don't have identification or something.
Has any black person ever been refused identifying in this country?
I mean, not in a long time.
And when they were, it was under the law.
Yeah, right, right, under the law at the time, anyway.
Which, I mean, aren't we so glad that those laws got underturned because overturned?
Because isn't it all of these majority black cities so much better now?
Well, anyway.
Well, you know, it's an interesting third hour.
We thought it would be a roundtable, but Simon's still smoking and Michael Hill's watching the Alabama game.
So we'll be right back.
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I was joking just a little bit about Michael Hill watching the Alabama game tonight, although they are actually playing right now.
I don't know about the truth.
I cannot confirm or deny whether or not Simon is smoking right now, but we do have Kevin McDonald still.
And no, seriously, folks, there's still a lot of people around that were at the event today.
Everybody being pulled in different directions.
But I am thankful to have Kevin as we conclude this discussion tonight on the Middle East, which has been a fantastic show from start to finish with our friends Michael, Simon, and Kevin.
Kevin, I'm going to read to you, let's see here, what I have here.
One, two, three, four, five, five bullet points, a quick response to each, if you could, and we'll wrap it up there.
But another takeaway from what's currently going on in the world is that in spite of the best efforts of Israel to cover up the carnage in Gaza, it is still being broadcast around the world, especially on social media.
And there is a chance that this could fatally undermine Holocaustianity in the long run.
It has only been a few weeks, and the clips coming out of Gaza are far worse than anything we've seen in Ukraine.
Decades of milking Jewish victimhood could be coming to an end.
You see these things, and we talked about it earlier.
You see these things.
Listen, hey, I admit the Arabs have never been a friend of Western civilization, nor has the Jew.
But if you look at these things, these tiny, tiny babies just being bombed indiscriminately and dying horrific deaths.
The whole thing, Jews can do no wrong.
They are always the victims.
The world is seeing this a lot differently than the American media is portraying it.
That's right.
I mean, I have tended to watch, I cut the cable so I don't watch Fox anymore, but I've been watching Newsmax, and it's horrible.
So I've been watching Al Jazeera.
Yeah, I think Al Jazeera has been the most level, even-handed media in the last month.
Yeah, they've had a huge amount of coverage of Gaza, and they've had some of the reporters killed in Gaza.
It's a brutal situation.
They've shown the situation on the West Bank.
Last I looked at over 150 Palestinians on the West Bank have been killed since this thing started.
And there have been a lot of protests and so on, but they are absolutely draconian in how they treat the Palestinians in the West Bank.
And of course, Gaza is just rubble.
And the hospitals bombing hospitals, bombing refugee camps three times.
Three times as refugee camps bombing it.
And hospitals.
You know, there was this big debate.
Was it Israel that bombed it or was it a Hamas bomb that went awry?
And then another hospital has been bombed since then.
Another one, yeah.
So, yeah, and then they show that in Al Jazeera all the time.
And they show scenes from inside the hospitals for all these emergencies, bloody people.
Occidentaldescent.com, every blog post that Brad does, you have to really motivate yourself to watch it because it's just these infants just dying horrific deaths.
But these are the people that can do no wrong doing this.
Yes, yes.
And that's the thing that I keep emphasizing, that they have a seasoned moral high ground.
People are horrified at the very thought of anti-Semitism.
Being called an anti-Semitic is absolutely the worst thing in the world.
Yeah.
You can ever be called.
Right.
And maybe.
Thankfully, you've never been called that.
Luckily.
But that's the thing.
It could be that this is going to be a huge turning point in history in that sense.
But that's the thing.
It could be.
This is the thing that makes this interesting, I think, is that it could be.
For the last 10, 20, 30, 40, 50, maybe 50 years even, the course was set.
There were people out there doing the Lord's work, but there wasn't much chance of anything changing.
There's a chance now.
Here's another thing.
In the event that our political leadership plunges into a war with Iran for the sake of Israel, unlike the Iraq war, this war is going to play out on social media.
I think that's key.
Unlike the Iraq war, the country is deeply divided going into it.
Unlike the Iraq war, there is no ambiguity that America is getting involved in this war solely for the sake of Israel.
Unlike the Iraq war, the genocide in Gaza is going to undermine the war effort.
That's right.
And Iran has a much bigger, more populated, much better weapons and everything else than Iraq had.
It's unimaginable that you put boots on the ground there.
You know, bombing them is one thing, but drone stuff, you know, push-button war, but boots on the ground.
And let me tell you something.
I did a TV show in Nashville 10 years ago, and there was a, I don't know if it was a platoon or a phalanx of so-called American soldiers, but it was almost entirely black women.
You're not going to win a war on the ground like that.
But this is where we're at now.
Here's another thing.
We've been talking about this tonight.
Boomer Khan, Christian Zionism has clearly failed to reproduce itself.
The Pat Robertsons, Jerry Falwell.
There's not a lot of young people who think like that, thankfully.
And if these people plunge us into a war with Iran for the sake of Israel, it's going to accelerate the decline of this faction.
I think that's a good thing.
That's a good thing.
And as you said, you know, it wouldn't be any question that this was for Israel.
Whereas if Iraq, they always lied about it, covered it up.
I mean, you had to do biographical sketches of these neocons, their family history, and all that to really nail it down.
Whereas this was going to be obvious, it's all about Israel.
Well, you know probably better than anyone living today, and certainly of anyone of your stature, that the hardest nut for us to crack has always been the taboo of discussion of Jewish influence and power and the Israel lobby.
Now, as we've seen, conservative incorporated Glenn Beck, you know, we played that clip earlier, has lost ground or outright conceded every other issue.
But banned the ADL was recently trending on Twitter, thanks to, of course, Keith Woods, who we talked to just a few weeks ago on this program.
A war with Iran for the sake of Israel, while Israel commits all sorts of atrocities, could be the asset that finally dissolves the taboo on these issues.
Do you believe that?
Is it possible?
It's possible.
I really do.
I think that.
I mean, you're not going to get Jews to admit that.
I mean, they're going to keep saying, well, Israel has a right to defend itself.
And that's the end of the story.
And there's no context to this.
And I noticed, you know, these academic Jews in my university, they never talk about the context.
They never talk about the history, the apartheid, the open-air prison, all that stuff.
It's completely off the table.
The only thing is that Jews have suffered, and therefore we have to do something.
But that could be over.
There's too much publicity now.
That's it.
It's a different world.
They can't cover this whole thing up.
You know, you go back 40 or 50 years in this movement, and it was three television networks, and the best you could do is throw out a few flyers and hope somebody turns up for your meeting.
It's a different ballgame now.
And that leads us to this finally, this mantra that has been endlessly repeated by our politicians that Israel is our greatest ally, when in fact, and this is the fact, Kevin, that it has always been a massive albatross and a strategic liability to the United States.
A war with Iran and possibly a wider Middle East or regional war or perhaps even a world war for the sake of Israel is going to expose this lie.