Sept. 30, 2023 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to tonight's live broadcast of TPC.
It has been nothing less than a stupendous September of programming here on the broadcast.
And tonight will be no different.
I mean, tonight, we are actually even taking it to the next level.
It is the last day of September, the last show of September.
Happy fall, everybody.
Saturday evening, September the 30th.
As you know, we announced last week that we're going to be joined this evening by number one Amazon best-selling author, Ed Bradeau.
He has written the book, The War on Whites, How Hating White People Became the New National Sport.
Very interesting guy, very interesting background, working in big business with these Fortune 500 companies as a negotiator, and how he ended up writing a book like that.
We're going to find out.
We're going to hear his story, and we're going to get into the book.
That's in the second hour.
But first, what a surprise guest for you this evening joining us live from Ireland right now.
We didn't even publicize this on the website.
We got in touch with Keith Woods really just a couple of hours ago, and he said he'd be happy to stay up late.
And so now here he is making his debut appearance.
Actually, both of the guests tonight making their debuts on TPC.
Joining us live from Ireland right now.
A man who probably needs no introduction after his activism in this past month, but it is Keith Woods.
Keith, how are you?
Hey, I'm pretty good.
It's great to be here.
Yeah, it's been a hell of a month, like you said.
Well, you're too modest, really.
I asked you for a bio for introductory purposes, and what you came back with was, again, very humble.
You wrote that you're an Irish nationalist and a polemicist, active on Twitter and writing at Substack.
You've been published by the UNS Review, and of course, earlier this year, really just last month, you spoke at the American Renaissance Conference on the topic of Ireland's denationalization.
But my friend, you are a lot more than that.
But before we get into what made you really not just the man of the hour, but I think an activist who scored a breakthrough, the likes of which I don't know in some ways if we've ever seen, not at least in my 20-year career.
But we'll get to that.
That's what people want to hear about, and we'll get to it.
But as we do with all first-time guests on the program, let's just talk a little bit more about your background.
I mean, I have known you like so many through reputation, and I've seen your work, and I've seen a lot of your live streams and a lot of your interviews and a lot of your commentaries.
But until the American Renaissance Conference, we were both at last month, I don't think I'd had the opportunity to speak with you before.
So let's talk a little bit about that origin and your genesis story with regards to these issues and this cause of ours.
Yeah, well, actually, like a lot of people in Ireland, I was always, you could say a nationalist, but I was someone on the left.
You know, it's kind of a different dynamic here when you have like the old Republican tradition and Sinn Féin and stuff.
So as someone that was, you know, sympathetic to, you could say, our nationalist past, I was originally drawn to Sinn Féin and left-wing republicanism.
But I became very disillusioned with that as I came into adulthood.
And I saw Sinn Féin becoming this, you know, essentially globalist Marxist party.
So yeah, I began to look more into right-wing thinkers and conservative thought and began putting stuff out on YouTube, on various social media platforms.
Originally, it was more philosophy focused, actually, but more and more got drawn to talking about these issues.
I've become active with the National Party here in Ireland, which is our premier nationalist movement here.
And yeah, I mean, you alluded to it, but it was a big year this year because I was actually banned off Twitter in 2021 with no explanation, like many others.
And I was one of the late people restored with the Elon Amnesty.
That never quite happened, but happened.
I got my account back in April.
And since then, it's kind of exploded in terms of reach, new followers.
I took a look at September stats.
I had 33 million impressions on Twitter.
I've caught the attention of Elon Musk.
And, you know, this month was especially successful because we got the hashtag ban the ADL campaign going, which obviously sparks a few stories of its own.
A historic strike, I think you made there.
And we're going to get into that.
And I certainly want to ask you some questions about what you were feeling and experiencing as you saw this engagement with Musk.
And you saw how this became just an international news story.
I mean, a truly, truly huge news story.
I mean, that's not even really an adjective that properly covers it.
But yeah, I mean, you just mentioned it.
And I, you know, of course, I do want to ask you your thoughts.
And I guess your thoughts will be as informed, perhaps even more than anyone else, in a moment about the, you know, obviously the schizophrenia in place at Twitter or X with regards to you got pardoned and then, you know, other people got banned.
And there doesn't seem to be any consistency there in what you think may be going on there.
But thank God you are on there because as you said, I get rate limited.
I'm permanently suspended, but I can still get on there and see a few tweets a day before I get, it's in a read-only mode.
But yeah, you wrote pretty good month, 32 million views that you had on Twitter.
I mean, you know, you're going to be up there.
You know, that's probably as many eyeballs as some of these network TV shows are getting.
I mean, that is just a tremendous amount of noticing and amount of people you're reaching through this platform.
Yeah, well, you know, one thing I noticed, because like I said, I was banned off Twitter for two years, but while I was off, you know, like you, I'd kind of take a peek, catch up on news there, see what was going on.
But I did notice over the last couple of years, and this kind of gets to what you talked about in your Amaran speech, that you could see like the kind of big conservative accounts moving much more towards like our kinds of ideas, like white identity, anti-immigration.
And even though, you know, all our kinds of people were banned off there, you'd often see like an organic reach of, you know, just a kind of basic like nationalist talking point or a meme getting 10,000, 20,000 likes.
So I haven't noticed in the last couple of years, there just seems to be a huge appetite for nationalist talking points, for anti-immigration, for conservatives basically to adopt a lot of talking points used to be associated with, I guess, called the dissident pride.
And I certainly saw that as a huge opening.
And that's definitely been my experience since going back as well, is there's an appetite for this.
It's pushing other right-wing influencers further right.
You know, Elon Musk's Twitter this week, if anyone checks it, I mean, half his tweets have been about the migration crisis.
He actually visited the southern border and documented himself.
And he's, you know, he's boosting stuff about the mass migration to Italy and into Europe and so on.
So I do think there's a change in climate on the ride, which again, you know, it's why it's so important for us to be in the fight there and to be getting our talking points across.
But like you said, it's been quite a schizophrenic Ryan.
You know, you were one of the people that were banned.
Without explanation, you were banned along with Kevin McDonald and Tom Sunik and all these people, some of whom didn't even use the platform, which suggests that, you know, probably your name was on some list, maybe it was the ADL or the SPLC or something, but was on some list that was handed to Twitter.
So there's a lot to be positive about in some ways, about where Twitter is now, but unfortunately, it hasn't quite delivered on the promise so far.
Well, I got to be honest, I'll certainly trade my presence there for yours in light of what you've done.
I mean, 76,000 followers you've got.
You picked up 20,000 just in the last month alone, 32 million impressions, and you're not laying it back, my friend.
I mean, you're not just up there, you know, regurgitating some milquetoast, lukewarm talking points.
I mean, you're going right after the juggular of the biggest beast in town.
And we're going to talk more about that with Keith Woods staying up late past midnight in Europe, and we're so thankful for him for that.
Stay tuned.
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Back with the one and only Keith Woods making his debut appearance on the program, what we hope will be the first of many conversations and collaborations to come.
Keith, we talked a little bit about your background just sparingly in the first segment.
When would you say, though, you first became active?
I mean, obviously, I've been seeing you on live streams and in interviews and debates for a long time on YouTube and other platforms.
But about what time did you arrive on the scene, would you say, in the way you are now publicly?
Well, I first met a YouTube channel in very early 2019.
So that's when I started making content.
But, you know, I encountered this kind of online right space.
I guess it was actually with that kind of Trump wave of populism.
You know, there was obviously far less censorship at the time.
So if you were on social media at all, you were kind of catching all of these memes and themes that were going around.
There's a lot of exciting energy.
You know, Brexit was happening.
Trump was happening.
The National Party in Ireland was actually formed in 2017 and was kind of coming off the back of that wave of populism.
So that's when I started to really get interested in this side of things.
But yeah, I started making content around 2019.
See, that's incredible.
I mean, there was such a proliferation of new content creators around 2015 and 16, of course, and for obvious reasons, but it really just exploded the amount of people who were just fantastic communicators and people who were putting together very thoughtful programs that just ballooned out around that time.
And you came even actually a little later than that.
So from 2019 to 2023, you had really a rocket-like ascension into this thing to where now you're sitting at the tip of the spear of it all.
And I want to comment on one more thing you said in the last segment before we get into the band, the ADL.
I mean, we got to spend some time on that.
But you were talking about how now all of these conservative influencers are now sort of speaking our language with regards to identity and solidarity and race realism.
And here's another example of that.
This was just published.
Let's see.
This was published today in The Guardian.
The headline is No Enemies to the Right.
DeSantis Ally Hosts Debate Hedging White Nationalism.
Now, they're talking about Chris Rufo here.
And we're not going to get into all of his background, but he's a pretty big Republican conservative type of influencer.
And he's hosting this debate on X, on Twitter, this Twitter space or X space, whatever they're calling it now.
And the hypothetical question was posed to his guest.
And the question is, let's say a real white nationalist arose who had real political power and therefore could be of assistance against the left.
Now, this is a question, a hypothetical, of course, where the true conservatives, Keith, you know, the principled conservatives, the people who live to lose, would have said a few years ago, well, no, we're going to stand on our principles.
We're going to reject that and so on and so forth.
And there's no room for racism and whatever.
But responding to this hypothetical, the answer was given, I think that the answer is that you should cooperate with that person in order to destroy the power of the left.
That's how far establishment conservatives have moved in a very short time.
We're talking about really, really the last three years since the Biden inauguration.
Very interesting.
Yeah, I wasn't aware of that.
But I mean, I have noticed with those guys, you know, you have these guys, Christopher Ruffo and James Lindsay.
These guys are kind of centrists.
They're trying to fight what they call woke with classical liberalism, with centrism.
But yeah, if you go to their pages, if you look at their replies, it's full of like our guys saying, you know, this isn't enough.
We want more.
We want you to go further to the right.
They're constantly, if you look at someone like James Lindsay, he's basically constantly in a battle with nationalists on Twitter saying, no, no, we have to stick by classical liberalism.
We can't embrace collectivism.
But with all of these people, it's like their audience has kind of moved beyond them.
They've gone on without them.
They've found better influencers, better information out there.
Even Charlie Kirk, like Charlie Kirk now says things that in 2017, you would have been an old white supremacist, white nationalist if you're saying this stuff.
He's recently been talking about replacement migration and white demographics.
It's hard to believe how far that's advanced.
Matt Walsh.
I think Matt Walsh has done like four or five videos in the last month of anti-white discrimination about demographic change.
So yeah, it's a real sea change happening before our eyes.
It's very interesting.
It is incredible.
It's astonishing how quickly it's happening too.
I mean, this is something that it's accelerating at a very rapid pace.
And I actually, you mentioned my Amerin speech.
You opened up the conference, by the way, with an incredible talk on Irish nationalism and what's going on, the situation in Ireland.
But in my talk, I actually mentioned those two people specifically, Charlie Kirk and Matt Walsh.
These are, you know, TPUSA.
These are heavy, you know, conservative incorporated influencers.
And I don't think necessarily that they probably are inherently opposed to the message.
But I do think that there is a, at least somewhat, they are saying these things in order to keep up with their base because there's no doubt about it.
A few years ago, Charlie Kirk particularly was kicking out people for asking even questions like this.
And now he's basically, you know, citing it chapter and verse in his own commentaries, which I think is a good thing.
And I think that these people should be welcomed.
Because I've always said when the tide turns, these people are going to come.
And we need to be, we can't say, well, because you weren't here this year, we won't accept you now.
We need to accept the help and we need to have this coalescence and this snowball-like effect.
And it is happening.
And I think it's going to continue to happen.
And I think that the white Republican base is advancing quickly towards white identity politics, which is good.
But let's talk now and we'll spend the rest of the time talking about ban the ADL, the hashtag heard around the world.
What actually got that started?
I mean, I certainly don't think as well engaged as you are on social media and you have a huge following there.
I mean, surely you couldn't have anticipated what was going to happen when you laid that out there.
What was the motivation?
What was the inspiration for you posting that that first time?
Well, I mean, honestly, hashtags have kind of been dead as a means of engagement for a few years now.
But I thought, you know, maybe for a few hours, maybe for an hour or two, we could just break into the trend and a few people would see it and find their stuff.
But yeah, it took off.
And I think a big part of the reason it took off is exactly what I've been discussing, that you have, you know, you have these conservative influencers that are much more open to this kind of thing now.
Some of the first people that took this up, one was Jake Shields, who's a retired MMA fighter.
He has like 400,000 followers on X.
And, you know, again, he's not like really our guy, so to speak, but he's a guy who has conservative instincts and who's been following the news, obviously, on Twitter for the last couple of years.
And we've been getting very, very alienated with the whole system.
And yeah, screw the head yell.
You know, as soon as he saw what this organization was engaged in, he was happy to jump on board.
Now, that's big.
Yeah, I describe these people as not our guy, but not our guy.
But continue on.
Yeah, and it was just, it was like that, you know, it was just kind of a spread where you have influencers that were not wanting to be left behind by this.
They wanted to jump on before others did.
And I sensed, I mean, when I put it out, I sensed that there was an appetite for it because there was the announcement of Linda Yaccarino as CEO of X, and then there was the announcement that Elon Musk had had a meeting with Jonathan Greenblatt.
And there was just this general sense of fatigue I felt among conservatives on the platform that they were super optimistic about Musk's takeover.
It seemed to be going in the wrong direction again.
But there was never really a target.
You know, there was never really something that they could turn their ire to, just this general kind of pro-free speech thing.
But to be able to unite them against kind of a common enemy that really represents all of what they oppose.
And I think this is a big part of it as well.
You know, I think Jonathan Greenblad is as much responsible for banning the ADL as anyone because it's not something you could have got done a few years ago.
You know, there was a time when the ADL presented itself as kind of non-partisan.
And that's kind of where its power lay as it could claim to be outside this partisan fold and speak for the Jewish community.
But, you know, when they demand the banning of Donald Trump from social media, when they launch an advertiser boycott on Twitter before Musk has even become CEO, you know, when they have this anti-Christian messaging on their website, I mean, it just like hit all the right points where it's like, if you're conservative in any way, shape, or form, you have to oppose this organization.
And yeah, I mean, I was still amazed, though, at how many big conservative influencers jumped very early on.
I mean, Dinesh D'Souza, of all people, was retweeting me and was all excited about this idea of banning the ADL.
So it really didn't take long to get out there.
And I think the last big influencer to finally put out an anti-ADL message was Ben Shapiro, because he waited and he didn't want to get in on this.
Obviously, he doesn't want the topic of conversation to be the ADL, right?
He'd rather it be, you know, Biden or tax cuts or something.
But it's just got to a point where it's like, well, Matt Walsh, Dinesh D'Souza, all these people, all your followers are engaged with this.
And it's like at a certain point, even these conservative Jews, Ben Shapiro, Stephen Miller, these guys, even they said, you know, we have to get out in front of this.
We can't ignore it.
We're going to have to do some kind of damage control.
You know, let's say it's just a left-wing organization.
That's kind of a happy medium and attack it on that basis.
But yeah, it's just that it's that thing where there's like, you know, there's a little bit of steps to the right each time.
But, you know, like we've been talking about, the audiences of these people are much further ahead of them than they are themselves.
Ladies and gentlemen, we're going to spend the final half hour of our hour with Keith Woods tonight on this topic, this hashtag and its effects and where things may be going from here.
Stay tuned.
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Ladies and gentlemen, honored to have Keith Woods with us tonight.
If you're still allowed on Twitter or X if you prefer at Keith WoodsYT, at Keith Woods YT there on Elon Musk's Playground.
And from there, you can find all of the links to his other work and locations, and we encourage you to do so.
Got a text message here from our mutual friend Keith, Jared Taylor.
Jared texting me only if it's a comfortable thing to do.
Please give Keith my applause and best wishes.
Let him know that I applaud him for all he has done and wish him every success.
A very good man.
So, Jared, message delivered, and hopefully it's received on your end all the way over there in Ireland, Keith.
I appreciate that.
Yeah, it was a real honor to meet Jared when I went over for the American conference.
And yeah, I really hope to see both of you guys back on the platform.
I think there's a real appetite for a Jared Taylor on X right now and some of the things we've been sent.
Oh, there's no doubt about it.
I mean, Jared is a man who, you know, the room swoons when he walks in.
He's a great guy.
I've known him forever.
All-time most interviewed guest on this program.
We've been friends for about 20 years.
And so, yeah, it would be fun to all get together again.
But getting back to the topic at hand, so you were talking about with the band, the ADL hashtag.
It started to be picked up by celebrities and then people like even Dinesh D'Souza and others.
And it started to make a groundswell.
Before we go on to Elon Musk's involvement, would you agree or disagree, Keith, with this?
And I don't want to oversimplify things, but Donald Trump obviously was a game changer.
He was a catalyst in all of this, and I think rather inadvertently, but nevertheless, Donald Trump enters the Republican primary 2015, 2016.
And we know what happened throughout the course of his administration, but especially in the year of George Floyd, 2019, 2020, 2020 is when it was, I guess, that re-election year.
I think that is when, for whatever reason, the woke institutions in general and subversive organizations like the ADL and the SPLC especially, I just, for whatever reason, they just couldn't seem to control themselves.
They didn't have the self-control to see that Trump could have been just a blip on the radar if they had just waited him out.
If they had just sat on the ball and allowed the demographic displacement to continue at pace, that would have been all they needed to do.
But for whatever reason, they couldn't seem to do it.
They really saw him as an avatar of white supremacy or fascism, which of course he never was.
And they went all in with the destruction of historic American monuments, critical race theory, transgenderism, the weaponization of the Department of Justice and the FBI and now all of these arrests of Trumps.
And I think they have overplayed their hand to such an extent that they are the reason that the Republican base has moved in the direction that they have moved far more than our collective.
Would you agree or disagree with that?
Yeah, I agree.
And like you said, I do think it was kind of in spite of Trump.
I mean, I think it would have been a lot wiser for them to kind of embrace Trump because, I mean, at least if you look at the way he governed, it wasn't much different from a typical Republican.
And I always got the sense from in the speeches and so on that he really wanted to be welcomed into that establishment.
You know, he did signal that he was more moderate than the last and then the establishment were making him out to be.
Even seemed in some of the speeches almost like to have a kind of inferiority complex that he was excluded by these people.
But yeah, they totally overplayed their hands.
He certainly said things that white people liked.
He certainly said things that no other Republican contender and certainly no other Republican president has ever said in my life.
He said, you know, things about immigration, which was obviously true, how he addressed the Charlottesville, for instance, in the immediate aftermath of that, you know, praising people like Robert E. Lee and the Confederate, you know, the military bases who were named after Confederate heroes.
I mean, he certainly said those things, but as far as what he was able to accomplish, yeah, as you said, he governed as a typical Republican for the most part.
But just saying the things that white people agreed with seemed to be enough to set them off into this just crazed, hysterical, reactionary type of path.
And here we are now.
And where we are now, there is just so much polarization.
There is so much contempt from one side to the other.
I don't think America is going to go back together like Humpty Dumpty.
And that's a totally different conversational thread.
But next year it's just going to be very interesting.
Are they really going to put him in prison?
I think so.
I don't think Trump's going to be able to beat the rap in Washington, D.C. with a black female judge and an all-black jury.
And that's not to even mention Atlanta and New York and all of these things.
So, I mean, what we're going to see in America next year is unprecedented.
And I don't know where it's going to fall.
But I do think that the people that are running this show right now are out of control.
The people in control of our institutions and our media and our government and academia and so on and so forth.
And that, of course, plays into this whole thing with Ban the ADL.
I think other people are seeing this too.
And they see the ADL certainly as a big player in all of this and the things that they don't like.
They don't see the ADL as an organization as they present themselves.
I think Elon Musk, I mean, my God, that thing, you know, where he did the meme with Justin Timberlake from the social network movie, Drop the Anti-Just Defamation League, gets cleaner.
I mean, people get it now.
You would have never seen this, Keith.
Never, Keith.
Certainly not 10 years ago.
Not even during the Trump administration.
This is something like you kind of bursting onto the scene of 2019.
This is a phenomenon unique to just the last two or three years.
You would not have had a climate that would have produced something like ban the ADL going worldwide and Jonathan Greenblat going on this damage tour four years ago.
Yeah, and like you said, there is no breaks on this trend.
I mean, you can, it's interesting.
I find like if you watch Bill Maher, like he's one of the more intelligent liberals.
He's kind of an old school Democrat.
I'll sometimes check in on his monologues and you can see people like him are raising the alarm bell.
You know, he did a huge monologue last year about the trans issue going way too far, about trans kids like being totally off-button.
And he's basically been sounding the alarm for a few years now where he's saying, hey, this stuff is like emboldening the right.
We could win like every election if we just put this woke stuff away.
Like why are you like crazy and saying woke people like throwing away our rule with this stuff?
But it's fallen on deaf ears because they've created this Frankenstein's monster of these people that are hopped up on critical race theory and all the other stuff they get out of the university system.
And there's really just no stopping them.
And censorship plays into this as well, this story of the right becoming radicalized and part of it being the overreach of the establishment.
I mean, the censorship kicked into overdrive under Trump, you know, back in 2016 when Trump was elected.
This is one of the things I actually posted to Twitter that Elon replied to.
There was a clip of Jonathan Greenblatt from 2016 saying that he thought that any legal speech should be allowed on social media, that he didn't agree with Holocaust denial, but he thought that everyone had a right to express it online.
And that of the ADL was threats of violence.
It's only, you know, seven years ago, but my God, it feels like a lifetime.
You get to 2020 and he's demanding that Donald Trump be banned off all social media.
So there was huge overreach in that regard as well.
And I think it played into what you're talking about with the right becoming more radicalized, because I think there's an effect where it's like, if all they censored was the, you know, the neo-Nazis, the white nationalists, okay, they're cordoned off into their own section.
But it's like when conservatives are getting banned for different narratives about COVID lockdowns or about vaccines, it's like suddenly everyone was forced into the same kind of playpends.
You know, now Russell Brand is on Rumble and Jimmy Dore is being canceled.
And now it's like the cost of being canceled isn't so much.
It's like maybe one time, okay, you're a conservative.
You'll avoid immigration.
You'll avoid white identity because that could get you canceled, get you banned.
But the calculation is very different if you're getting banned for question lockdowns.
Then it's like, well, I'm already here with all these cancel people.
I'm already here with all these nationalists.
I mean, it's like, what do you have to lose at that point?
You're already, according to the ADL and the SPLC, you're already a right-wing extremist.
Exactly.
I mean, that goes back to the Christopher Rufo Twitter space where he said, you know, in a hypothetical situation, if a white nationalist authoritarian comes to power, how would we view that?
And the answer was, let's work with him to cancel the power of the left.
So again, you wouldn't have seen that before, but there's certainly a more enemy of my enemy is my friend type of thing now going on than ever before.
And yeah, COVID, I mean, that's a whole nother thing that happened in the last three years.
I mean, there's just been so much that's gone into the blender and we see what now is being served out.
But the, yeah, I mean, and of course, the overplay, the lack of awareness and discernment from these groups, ADL, SPLC, the entire woke establishment.
I mean, you know, Trump never was leading in a poll in 2016 or 2020.
And now the latest, what, was it Washington Post poll has him up 10 points over Biden?
That is these people that are seeing the overreach, the independents and whomever.
And I mean, it's just really, I mean, that is something.
He's up 10 points according to this one poll.
Is up by at least a point or two by the majority of polls, but 10 by one of these very mainstream establishment system polls.
And that again, I wonder if they'll learn from it.
I hope not because they are doing everything that I would have them do.
Yeah, and another example of this, I mean, Elon Musk himself is an example of this where it's gotten so bad and the censorship got so bad and the overreach of these activists got so bad that now you do have these guys like Elon Musk and some other guys in Silicon Valley, these kinds of Gen X tech bros that were always apolitical their whole lives or maybe they were just kind of a little bit libertarian.
But suddenly they were looking at this and like, my God, this is going to impact if we can do business.
This is going too soon.
This is the throwing things we care about.
Let's come back right there.
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Keith Woods quite rightly making his victory lap, his Heroes Tour this month.
Keith, you wake up one morning, this band the ADL thing that you started, you and you alone started, is trending worldwide on social media.
And then the world's richest man is directly engaging you.
Let's talk about that, Elon Musk.
And not just once and not just a throw-off thing.
It seemed like for a week there with his morning coffee, Elon would get on there and see what you were saying and then respond in kind.
I mean, that is an incredible thing when you have one of the world's most influential men taking on one of the world's most powerful, subversive organizations.
And you were the go-between that made that happen.
What are you thinking when you see this?
I mean, what was your initial reaction?
A shock.
It was definitely a shock when I was waking up three or four mornings in a row seeing Elon Musk and my replies and 100 notifications of people telling me Elon's applying to me and yeah, it was an interesting time.
And I mean, it did end with him when he announced that he was going to sue the ADL.
I mean, he basically used the talking point that we'd been using from the beginning, which is the first tweet that I used the hashtag in, which was that, you know, this organization, their boycott costs you all this advertising revenue.
They used your platform to do this.
You hadn't even taken over.
And, you know, this is the organization that needs to be pushed back against.
I mean, he was using the same screenshots.
He was using the same talking points.
So it was great to see it filter up like that.
And what I was saying before the break is I think Musk is an example of this overreach as well.
According to some stories, I don't know if this is true or not, but he does have a kid that became transgender and essentially disowned them, changed their name at the age of 18, doesn't have contact with them.
According to some people, that is basically when he became political and decided he had to do something about the situation in the West.
I've heard that before, but I know his.
I've heard the rumors.
I know his latest biographer said that he essentially bought X because he thought that his dreams of space travel would not be possible with social media going the way it was without a free public square.
He thought that was essential.
And you look at some of the accounts that were restored.
I mean, a lot of them were just personal friends of his that were banned and banned for things during COVID when there was overreach.
So I think that's an interesting case as well where you have these.
I mean, obviously, we would like, you know, there's not much in the way of elite support or anything, I can assure everyone.
But I mean, you have to think like there are these people that, like I said, they were apolitical or maybe they're libertarians and the diversity stuff, you know, it hasn't really affected them, the woke stuff.
They might laugh at it, but it doesn't really affect their lives.
But you look at a guy like Musk, you know, he loses a child to trans ideology.
He's having sued by the DOJ for like racial discrimination.
You know, his SpaceX was not hiring refugees fairly.
He isn't able to launch rockets.
He has to wait for some bureaucratic procedure to go through about snails where he's launching where he's launching his missiles.
So it's like, you know, all of these things, like it is encroaching on every aspect of life.
And you have to think there's a lot of elites that are realizing the competency crisis, the overreach of censorship and the government.
You have to think like there's going to be more of a backlash from people we haven't seen of before.
The current trend, the current trajectory of this thing is entirely in our favor.
And I don't think it's going to be put back in.
I don't think the toothbase is going back in the tube.
I think it's going to continue to play out this way.
I think our breakthrough is inevitable.
I think things are going to turn and that Keith, you and I are young enough and hopefully even people older than us are going to live long enough to see this current post-World War II order change dramatically.
I think that is the trend.
And I just think it's an idea.
I don't want to oversimplify it or cliche it.
I think it's an idea that time has come and whatever we do or not do isn't going to stop it.
Although I am very proud and glad that I've been on the beat here for 20 years next year and for all the things you've done, Keith, in the last few years, which arguably is more than anybody else has done.
I mean, sometimes it's just a matter of lightning in a bottle and just having something just hit.
And you had a platinum record here this month with the band, the ADL.
And yeah, I think going back to Elon Musk, though, I would say, I mean, of course, I don't know who knows him.
You know, I don't know him.
I don't know anything about him except for what I've been able to read and surmise.
I had heard that about one of his children.
And I think that he is probably at least fundamentally opposed to some, if not a majority, of the elements of the woke agenda.
And I think that there is some sincere pushback from him on this.
But certainly joining in on a band the ADL conversation and amplifying that to the extent that he did and getting so much more noticing going on like he did, that was definitely a next level move.
I mean, for a guy like that, I mean, Danesh D'Souza is one thing.
Elon Musk is certainly another.
Yeah, it was very interesting.
It was a huge development.
The good thing about that then is you have all these accounts that are more political or more conservative that are kind of following the leader and they're jumping on that.
And very quickly, this stuff is really getting normalized.
I mean, I was in a space on Twitter a couple of days ago that has like 80,000 listeners.
And it was like this kind of diverse coalition.
There was like Muslims in there.
It was even like immigrants.
But they were all like very anti-ADL.
There was like these narratives about Jewish power going on.
And these were, you know, these were some people that were, you know, they're certainly not this and right, certainly not alt-right.
Like I said, lots of different political backgrounds.
But, you know, that conversation is happening now.
And like conversations are happening that you couldn't have imagined happening with the reach there just a few years ago.
And this just seems to be the trend across the board.
I mean, censorship has held it off somewhat, but it's like, how long can that go on?
Because it's just constantly bubbling up under the surface.
Like I said, even when we were all banned, you know, you see these anonymous accounts getting millions of views on our basic talking point.
I think it was, you know, something going back to the dawn of the alt-right era, become who you are.
A lot of people are becoming who they are now.
And if Donald Trump or somebody like Trump, I mean, maybe Trump will just be the bridge.
Although, I don't know.
I mean, you look at the Republican field, Sans Trump, and it's just like the typical garbage.
I mean, what a dispiriting field that the GOP would have this year had it not been for Trump.
But if someone, whether it be Trump, and again, I think, you know, I think it's a strong likelihood, a probability even that he's going to be in prison before the next election, and how much more is that going to radicalize the folk out there, at least half the country?
I think the future of America is going to be a Balkanization.
At least I hope for it, because we don't have, our people don't have a future on this continent with the, you know, the current system.
But I think if somebody stepped into the moment and just harnessed this raw energy, they could go wherever they wanted to go.
I mean, Trump is the closest we've gotten to it.
At least he's flirting with it, although he's never done the tangible stuff.
But yeah, I think the conditions are right, Keith, for something here that we haven't seen in decades and decades.
But nevertheless, a couple of more questions about this very quickly.
Our friend Brad Griffin over at the Occidental Descent web zine, a great friend of mine, has a couple of questions for you.
The response from the campaign.
I mean, you know, what have you been seeing in your personal inbox with regards to this?
I mean, because, of course, this spawned international coverage.
Everybody was covering it.
Jonathan Greenblatt was going on every TV show he could to respond to you.
So what has been the response that you've gotten from people all around the world on Twitter and elsewhere?
Yeah, it's been a great response.
There's been a lot of outreach.
Like I said, some of these guys, like Jake Shields, suddenly they're interacting with this stuff.
They're learning about the ADL.
They're learning how this censorship regime works.
They're learning who the head of the snake is, who's really in charge.
And that's been my experience.
It's just a lot of people that you might have thought there'd be no common ground with getting very interested in this stuff.
And, you know, maybe there's a lot of people that are more red-pilled in private than you would think.
And as you were saying that, like, I did watch some of the Republican debates from the other day.
And yeah, it is kind of incredible how far behind the actual establishment politics is.
But, you know, I did read something recently where there was a leftist publication, and they were worried about the potential of a right-wing AOC.
And, you know, I just thought, like, if someone like Vivek Ramaswamy or someone like this, if they just came out and said whites are under attack, I don't think they'd lose any support.
I think that would be like a rocket ship.
And I feel like it's just a matter of time before someone kind of takes that rocket ship and goes to the moon.
Well, that's really, I 100% agree with you, Keith.
I think that's the only frontier that the message hasn't yet penetrated is the upper echelon of the Republican establishment.
And believe me, there is a big difference.
You know, when I got started with the Buchanan campaign in the early 2000s and then starting the radio show in 2004, to say there was no difference between the two parties, you know, obviously was true.
And on that particular level now, you know, the Mitch McConnell, Chuck Schumer level, you can still say that.
But there is a huge difference between the parties now on a state level, a state like Alabama or Tennessee versus California or New York.
There are differences in the parties.
And I think, yes, I think, you know, and still, even in Congress, I mean, you've certainly penetrated on a congressional level now where you've got people for all of her faults and she has them.
But I'd never let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
Marjorie Taylor Greene, a lot you can say about her that's objective or objectionable and objective, if you will.
But she said on 9-11, a provocative date to say it, on 9-11 of this month, September 11th, that the Red State needs to secede from the union.
Red states need to secede.
I mean, these are, again, talking points and conversational topics.
Setting United States a congressperson, this is, I mean, it's definitely moving in the right direction.
So we've got two minutes remaining.
Did you see this Twitter space between Ben Shapiro and Musk?
Do you have a take on that?
I didn't watch it.
Yeah, I listened into it.
It was incredible.
It was like a virtual Sanhedrin, you know, that's what it was called, where he had to go on with the former president of Israel and head of the World Jewish Congress and Ben Shapiro.
I thought it was amazing because I understand why he did it.
He's thinking if he's going to go after the ADL, he wants to kind of clean up any accusations.
He did this kind of groveling space for an hour.
I think at one point he said he was aspirationally Jewish.
But again, like the overreach, these guys, like I thought that, you know, they'd make a good face and show, look, we're conservative Jews.
We don't support censorship, et cetera, et cetera.
But half the people on the space were demanding he censor anti-Semitism more and introduce the IHRA definition of anti-Semitism.
Some guy was even offering send over engineers to change the Facebook algorithm to include the IHRA definition of anti-Semitism.
So the overreach was incredible.
But it shows the kind of forces he's up against when he tries to do something like this.
Again, it is.
And I was on CNN with Jesse Lee Peterson, and Jesse Lee Peterson and I hit it off.
And he's been on my show every year since.
I think it's foolish if you believe that there are non-whites that are operating in good faith and you have commonality with not to try to build bridges and work with them.
So whatever the, you know, Stephen Miller, you know, he says some things I like.
Let's welcome that.
Let's not just say, hey, you know, we're not going to work with him.
No, it's, you know, we'll accept any help we can get and any assist we can get.
That doesn't mean putting one of these on the platform and having them having to sanction our message at Keith Woods YT.