Aug. 19, 2023 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is the Political Cesspool.
The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
Welcome, everybody, to tonight's live broadcast of the Political Cesspool.
I'm your host, James Edwards.
This Saturday evening, August the 19th, back-to-back weeks on the road last week near Nashville, Tennessee, tonight near Montgomery, Alabama.
And there was one common denominator and both of those, or at both of those events, and his name is Jared Taylor, who is with me this evening, co-hosting a very special live remote broadcast from Alabama.
Jared, how are you doing, my friend?
Oh, I'm doing splendidly.
I can't remember what I've been doing better.
It's always a joy and a pleasure to be on with you.
We have had a good time over the course of the last, what, eight to 10 days?
I can tell you that.
We certainly have.
From Tennessee now to Alabama.
Boy, I wish we had another stop.
I don't know.
Where's another Confederate state that'll put us behind a platform next week?
That's what we've got to find.
But ladies and gentlemen, let me tell you, we are broadcasting live from the second national conference of the Southern Cultural Center and of a pretty good crowd today.
Very fine contingent are still here, even a couple of hours after the conference ended.
Give yourselves a very big round of applause, ladies and gentlemen.
It's great to be here with you.
Welcome to Alabama.
Ah, that's right.
It's great to be back in Alabama.
Jared, explain for the audience the atmosphere and the scene that we have been immersed in today.
Well, first of all, the scene.
I don't know when I've been surrounded by so many beautiful flags.
Oh, yes.
Every Confederate national flag, the Bonnie Blue, the Naval Jack, and even some I don't even recognize this independent now and forever Alabama.
I suppose that must have been a secession flag.
And we have portraits of every great Confederate luminary around us, Forrest, Jackson, Lee, Davis.
Wow.
This is a great hall for patriotic, country-loving Southerners.
And I know this about you because you and I have been so familiar for so many years.
I don't know if everybody knows your affinity for the South as well as they should.
I mean, it's certainly not anything you've shrouded.
Everybody who knows you probably knows it to an extent, but I know it very well because you and I have had some intimate conversations about this.
When you're walking into a hall like this with those flags, with these portraits, I know you feel a sense of at ease and at home that you don't necessarily feel at every stop.
It's more than being at ease and at home.
It is an exhilarating experience, exhilarating experience.
I probably shouldn't be saying this on the air, but boy, when I salute the Confederate flag, I feel many, many wonderful things I don't feel when they want me to pledge allegiance to that Yankee flag.
Here, here, everybody.
How about that?
I haven't given that pledge in a while, I don't mind saying myself.
But we are here at the Southern Cultural Center where they fight for our culture, our heritage, our land, and our people.
Mike Wharton and Mr. Ed Boardwine brought us down today, and I want to thank them both for their hospitality and their congeniality and their leadership.
And this event, which, listen, great speakers, great fellowship, great food, and a great band.
It has been entertaining.
It has been educational.
It has been fun.
I think the most important thing about it is it's been inspiring.
I feel inspired to be here.
And Brother Horton put me in a tight spot when he put me on the speaker's roster after you, Brother Everens, and after you, Brother Hill, if you were here.
But I did my best to wriggle out of that tight spot.
No, I tell you this.
I've heard a lot of Jared Taylor speeches.
The whole speech was fantastic.
But the last couple of minutes, I got chills.
It was very inspired.
And it's really, I think it's something that just stokes the embers of your genes when you're amongst, I think as you open your speech by saying, It's great to be in the company of so many Confederates.
That's right.
There's just something about, I said, I put it this way in my speech.
And by the way, whoever came up with the order did it right.
I should never follow Jared Taylor.
Jared always should occupy the premium perch there, the final, the closer, as it were.
But I think we did all right in a one-two punch type of sense, if I don't mind saying so myself.
But I said when I got up, what I felt today, if I could explain it to the audience, was the very best in terms of a synthesis between a family reunion and a good old-fashioned Southern tent revival.
We have had all of that stuff.
It's been spiritual.
It's been everything we said it was just a few minutes ago.
It has just been good people, our people, the kind of people that I grew up with.
This makes me think of being a boy in the 80s and going down to Mississippi and going down to some of those reunions and going down to some of those revivals.
It has just been something.
It reminds me of Saturday Night Supper with the Southern Presbyterians.
It's a great feeling, an absolutely great feeling to be here.
The mission statement of the Southern Cultural Center, which, again, this is their second national conference.
That's wonderful, too.
So, Jared, you just wrapped up your 20th American Renaissance Conference last week.
We're going to talk about that.
But this event, only their second, but I'll tell you what's so wonderful about that is new organizations, new meetings, new conferences that are doing very well and having been well attended.
And so new organizations are popping up that are bringing in good people and having fine events.
Well, this is a brand new organization for me, and it has been such a joy and a pleasure and such an inspiration to meet every one of you.
It's been a wonderful conference.
I can't tell you how much I've enjoyed it and how grateful I am for you all to invite me here.
The mission statement of the Southern Cultural Center reads, as Southern Christian protectors, we support the Christian values, culture, and heritage of the Southern people and their freedom and independence in their own land.
Jared, again, you have a pretty wonderful Southern patrimony that, again, I don't know if everybody knows about.
Well, I think as some of you saw earlier today, I began to lose my composure when I talk about my ancestors.
It's so deeply moving to me.
But on both sides of my family, we had ardent, ardent Confederates.
And although I grew up in Japan, believe it or not, I spent my first 16 years living in Japan from my parents just breathing the air around them.
I became a solid Confederate.
And as soon as I got back to the United States, all I did was feel more and more and more Confederate because the first place I went to in the United States was Connecticut.
I didn't belong there, but there I was.
And here you are now, and here we all are together.
Ladies and gentlemen, we're going to let the house band Shades of Gray, they perform all over the local area, take us to the first break of the evening, and we're going to get into a lot more over the course of the next three hours from the Southern Cultural Center.
But let's hear it now from Shades of Gray.
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Welcome back everybody.
As we broadcast live from Watumka, Alabama's Southern Cultural Center.
We just heard from the band that has been entertaining us for the last couple of hours here after the end of the scheduled remarks from the various speakers.
Shades of Gray down here in this particular part of Alabama.
They're always at probably your finest watering holes that you, but they get a lot of action.
I really enjoy talking with them, play all over the place.
And they were here today and just took us into that first break.
But with us now is, well, I know there was a lot of people involved with making this event in this weekend the success that it was.
My two points of contact were, of course, my old friend Mike Wharton and Ed Boardwine.
And we have Mike Wharton on with us now to tell us a little bit more about his reaction to this event and a little bit more about the Southern Cultural Center itself.
Mike, take it away.
Thank you, James.
I'd just like to thank everybody for coming today.
Thank y'all.
You and Jared really knocked it out of the park today.
And we had people here from all walks of life, practically every state, if not every state in Dixie, Ohio.
And so they come in from near and far.
We're glad to welcome everybody.
I thank everybody to come away with our theme today of survive, not only survive, but prosper.
And like our slogan, not slogan, but like our mission, is our people, our land, and a home of our own.
Well, it sir, seems to me that you are fulfilling your mission.
You are true to your word, true to your goal.
It's been a wonderful time.
Coming from Jared Taylor, that is, I'm going to tell you what.
We were so honored when you two men agreed to come here for this conference.
And Jared does, that was just both of y'all for the great speeches today.
Our people are energized.
Hey, they were energized when they come, but I'm going to tell you when they left, it was above, hey, overboard.
And, you know, people is wanting something bad enough.
When you tip the cup, all it can come out is what's in it.
So they left here really excited today.
And so many have stayed, and we're grateful for that.
And grateful for you doing the show here in the center.
It's a real honor to have y'all.
Well, it has just been great.
Seldom do I arrive at a conference expecting I don't know what and then go away with such a wonderful feeling.
This is the first time I'd even heard about your organization.
You understand you've been doing this just two years?
Wow.
I can imagine what it's going to be like 20 years from now.
You're the great beginning.
Well, thank you, Jared.
Our mission here, I can't overstate, you know, for our people and what we hope to accomplish.
And we know that it's doable.
By the way, I should mention, Mike, if you pardon the interruption, the website, if you want more information, is southernculturalcenter.com, correct?
That's right.
SouthernCulturalCenter.com.
You can join.
It's a member organization.
They would appreciate your support.
They're at the website.
You'll find their mission, their beliefs, their invitation to you, the who, what, where, when, and why, their pledge to the Southern people.
There is good content there and good content in this brochure that I'm holding in my hand.
So be sure to check it out.
This show is being sponsored by the Southern Cultural Center tonight, and we are happy to be here doing this before a live audience at their national headquarters.
But it was by no means just Jared and I today.
You had a good program from start to finish.
We missed yesterday where Pastor Weaver was on and some of the other locals.
But today, John Hill, who has just been all over the place, the closest living descendant to General A.P. Hill, wonderful two-hour presentation.
Sure didn't feel like two hours.
Learning more about Lee's Forgotten General and Pat Godwin, who's been doing the Lord's work down here forever on behalf of General Forrest.
She's occupying Selma for us.
That's a tough post.
That's a tough position to occupy, but Pat's doing it.
And her husband, Butch, and I had the chance to go back down there to Selma and speak at their event last summer.
She's just salted the earth.
A dear, sweet lady.
And Ruth Ann Holly, I mean, this lady just drips southern charm and that antebellum spirit.
And she and her husband have been such a blessing to our program and to our people.
And she gave a wonderful reading of her poem, Following Cotton Today, and of course, so much more.
There was raffles, there was music, there was food.
Great time.
Great time, Mike.
Well, it was a great time, and the events, and I'll tell you, we come here.
If you take the, James, you take the fun out of it, there's not much left.
We're serious about what we're doing, but when people come through that door, this is a refuge for our people.
This center is for our people, not just our members, our people.
One thing that so impresses me is that you have a physical establishment.
So few organizations have that.
All we have really is a website.
So many people are just a website, a podcast, a YouTube channel.
What you've got is brick and mortar, and you've got your name smack across the top of that building for all to see.
With the flag.
No, it makes my heart sing as soon as I drive up that driveway.
It's a wonderful, wonderful thing, and I congratulate you from the bottom of my heart for that.
Well, thank you so much, Jared.
And that was our goal from day one when we purchased this land.
Later on, the construction.
So many volunteers within this organization worked on the construction of this building, but we knew there was a day coming.
If it weren't already there then, it was well on its way that our folk would have a place where they were to come because it was the days coming where we're not going to be welcome anywhere.
How many years?
How many years have you had this establishment here?
How many years have we been in here, Ian?
We started January 19th, 2019.
2019.
Well, it's a beautiful place.
I think it's marvelous.
What I had heard, it was out in a place called Watumpka.
And I was wondering, gee, what kind of place it's going to be.
But it is absolutely wonderful.
I guess I'm absorbing a certain amount of Yankee prejudice living up so close to Washington, D.C.
But no, all of my fondest hopes are fulfilled by this organization and the people here and the wonderful time we've had.
I'll tell you what, this guy knows how to build somebody up right there.
It's absolutely wonderful.
I'm so glad to be here.
He's going to be on next year's list already.
He's getting a ticket on.
That's right.
That's right.
We're going to have to do this again.
But no, Jared had mentioned before, all of the flags, all of them, and then some are here.
But these beautiful portraits, not just the portraits, but some of the most iconic quotes from these heroes of American and Southern history.
Patrick Henry, of course, give me liberty or give me death.
I love Jefferson Davis.
The quote underneath the portrait of Jefferson Davis here in the hall today reads, Truth crushed to the earth is truth still, and like a seed will rise again.
And of course, Generals Lee, Jackson, and Forrest, some of their most identifiable comments and wisdom as well.
Yes, yes.
No, I must say I am such a fan of what General Lee had to say about duty, the most beautiful word, the most beautiful word in the English language.
You do your duty, and that is all that matters.
You can go to your grave happy, whether you've succeeded, whether you've failed, so long as we have done our duty to our ancestors, fulfilled our obligations to our children and descendants.
As General Lee said, do your duty.
And that's what he did to the end of his life, and that's what we must do till our last dying breaths.
Yes, sir.
Final word to you on this, Mike, and I want to again, from the bottom of my heart, thank both you and Ed for having us and for doing all that you do here.
SouthernculturalCenter.com is the website.
Final word to you before we continue on and really take a deep dive into some of the issues and topics of discussion over the course of this weekend.
We're going to bring Brad Griffin on.
John Friend from American Free Press is in the house.
John Hill, obviously.
We just mentioned him, the descendant of AP Hill.
He's been all over the place.
He's been on our show three or four times already this year.
He was at Amrien last week too.
A lot of people from Amrien were here today.
Not that that's surprising, but I would say, I don't know, maybe about 10%, which I don't know.
Maybe I didn't expect.
But anyway, final word to you.
Well, first, I'd like to express our appreciation, not for these, just these folks sitting here and all the people that were here today.
A great crowd, but this is just, we've got a great group of people that operate here, but we're not just here.
We've got a chapter in North Georgia.
We've got a nest up in Bristol.
All over.
We've got things going.
We want to try to grow and spread till we finally meet.
In our presentation that we had Friday, it kind of explained how we do things.
But we call this conference, and we're looking, like I say, for our land, our freedom, our liberty, freedom of association.
It's very important to us.
And the things that you used to know in Cliff's speech, he referred to Friday morning several times.
He went back to some of George Wallace's speeches.
But that's our goal is, you know, freedom for our people, country of our own.
Sam Dixon said last week, he gets asked all the time, why aren't more people doing things?
Well, too few people are being supported.
If people are out there, not everybody can be up front, but everybody can support the people who are and who are producing good fruit, and we're in their midst tonight.
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Welcome back, everybody, as our live remote broadcast from Alabama continues tonight with so many great people and friends and faces from battles past.
Jared Taylor, this is, you know, Jared, you, I say this every time you're on the air, and every time I talk to you, probably.
You are, as you know, the most frequently interviewed guest in the history of the program.
You have vlogged more appearances than any other single guest in 20 years.
That's probably because I've been around for 20 years.
But this is a very special appearance.
Out of all the appearances, you're appearing in so much as a capacity as a co-host tonight, which makes it particularly special.
And I appreciate you doing that.
Oh, it's a great pleasure and an honor.
We had the opportunity last night to pick Jared up at the airport in Montgomery and we checked into our hotel.
And then we went out to supper last night with a handful of comrades, John and John, and also Brad Griffin.
Now, of course, you and Brad have known each other and known of each other and each other's work for years and years, but I think this weekend, if I'm not mistaken, and correct me if I'm wrong, this is the first time you ever had a chance to really talk to one another at length.
Yes, yes.
It's a great privilege.
I follow your work.
I think it's really wonderful.
You have some of the sharpest insights on what's going on of anybody in our movement, bar none.
And every time the mainstream press wants to find somebody who really knows what's going on from our point of view, I see you quoted all the time, and I think that's great.
He says it should be.
He's a scribe for our side.
He's also an amateur historian.
I don't mean that, like, you know, bona fide historians do any better.
They don't.
I mean, but he does have a knack for history and doing deep dives into that.
He has a knack for gathering data and accumulating stats and polling results.
I do not want to be like Dr. King.
When Dr. King plagiarizes, he never gives attribution.
I fully give Brad the credit for the larger swaths of my talks the last two weeks because he has a knack for putting things into words too.
Well, that's right.
It's not just finding the data.
It's what you do with the data, how you understand the data, how you present the data.
All that goes into being a really persuasive commentator, and that's what Brad Griffin is.
We have been introducing Brad for about half the segment now.
He's a regular, too, so I think everybody knows his work at OD.
I'm going to read something that he wrote, and then that'll be the jumping off point for him and Jared to, or he and Jared, to continue this conversation.
Brad, polarization is at its high mark since the war between the states.
Trust in institutions have plummeted.
Political stress level has been turned up to the max.
There's only so much buildup before an event occurs that brings it to a boil.
Trump's arrest, these indictments.
And I said this, I don't know if that's going to do it necessarily, but it is going to guarantee that if we're already not past the point of no return with regard to polarization, I think what's coming next year, and it's even hard to fathom how chaotic next year is going to be, is going to do it.
It may take a war or a depression, but next year is going to be a point of no return in many ways.
People are still comfortable, as we said here tonight.
But this is what you wrote, Brad, to get to your comment here.
We are at the point where you can begin to feel the pull of the waterfall ahead.
History is speeding up.
The 3,000-foot drop into the unknown is coming next year.
What do you see, Brad?
Close as you can.
Well, you know, just it's never been this crazy in my lifetime.
And I'd love to pick your brain about this, Jared.
Have you ever seen anything like it this bad in your lifetime?
I've known we've seen many, we've seen impeachments, we've seen presidents driven out of office by the deep state, but we've seen riots over the years.
There were assassinations, bombings, and all in the 70s.
But I don't think we've ever seen a president try to arrest and send his chief political rival to prison in the middle of an election cycle, especially when said rival is winning in the polls.
This is something we've never seen before.
No.
In my lifetime, the big event that seemed to tear the country apart was probably the Vietnam War.
There were people who thought this was a great war.
There are people who thought that this was a horrible war.
People of my age were trying to escape the draft.
Some of them were trying to join up and go to Vietnam.
But that sense of division is dwarfed by what I see now.
It's as you say, when on earth in the United States, I mean, if you go to Guatemala, perhaps this happens all the time, or Peru, but when has the ruling party taken the opposing candidate for the presidency and tried to throw him in jail for the rest of his life?
This is unprecedented.
This is an absolutely astonishing thing.
I've got to find this because Brad had actually done a tally on this.
Here we go.
This is the most recent entry at Occidental Dissent.
If you go to the blog right now, four indictments, 91 federal and state charges.
Trump is currently facing 717 years in prison.
Even if he's convicted on one or two charges, that poor man is going to die in prison.
And that is what his opponents want.
Now, I think they have absolutely no idea how far they are stoking the train to dissolution.
If this country falls apart, when this country falls apart, in retrospect, this, I'm sure, will be considered one of the events that blew one of the wheels off the train.
It's a very surreal experience.
Like, on the one hand, things feel normal.
People are going to see movies like Barbie.
Barbie has made a billion dollars.
And, of course, I went to see Oppenheimer, not Barbie.
But at the same time, I wrote a little short review over the Amaran conference, and I was talking about there's a lot that's familiar about going to these conferences.
But like the thought that haunted me when I was at the Amaran conference is this probably, this might be the last normal conference for a long time, given like how polarized things are and how likely it is to ignite next year.
Well, the next American Renaissance Conference is going to be November 15th.
That's just a few days after the election.
After the election.
Now, is this going to be an election in which a man who is in jail for the rest of his life actually wins the election?
Is this going to be an election in which half the country is convinced, unlike ever before, that the whole thing was a fraud?
What is going to happen?
As you say, I like that metaphor that we can feel the pull of the waterfall.
That is a great way of putting it.
Haven't gone over it yet, but you can feel it.
You can feel it pulling us.
And boy, every time I walk around, every time I see the news, every time I see what's going on, I feel that pull even harder.
I mean, it's a great way of putting it.
It's cliché to say, you know, this is the most important presidential election of our lifetimes.
And I've heard that many times before, but I think this is different.
I think, like, this actually, I mean, the 1860 election was a very important one, and it hasn't been this bad since then.
I'm not saying it could come to that, but I could see Trump being indicted.
I could see the GOP scheming to get him off the ballot.
I could see MAGA partisans not accepting that.
I could see the Republican Party collapsing, falling apart.
I'm looking at a picture of William Lounge, the guy who destroyed the Democratic Party in 1860 on the issue of popular sovereignty.
Yes.
And he split the Democratic Party.
And when that fell apart, when those energies that was kept going in the elections, in the parties, when it was contained, when it went out, that's when everything hit the fan.
You know, I was listening to a guy on the BBC.
He's some Brit.
You can tell he's got kind of a limp-dristed attitude towards things.
He was saying, and it's amazing, Trump supporters don't seem to care.
One felony indictment after another, and they still seem to love him.
This guy doesn't realize that nowadays so many millions of Americans don't trust anything the government says, anything the government does, and anything that the Justice Department does.
This is vengeance and not justice.
Right.
Yeah, an amazing and absolutely amazing thing about Trump is that he's actually never polled this good in any point, like in 2016 or 2020.
I was looking at it today.
Brad, let me ask you that, because this is astounding.
Why do you think that is?
Is it because of the economy?
I mean, why is Trump polling better now than at any point, at any time, even during the election, he won?
I think in some sense, well, I mean, people obviously hate Biden and the economy.
But also, I mean, I think a lot of it is just, we might not like Trump, but this is crazy.
This is like a third world dictatorship kind of move.
This is more serious than a riot.
You know, I will even take, play devil's advocate, and I will say, okay, maybe some of the things that he did were in fact illegal.
This federal documents case, probably he did violate the law.
The other side has no idea how unseemly, how provocative, how vengeful their acts appear.
There's no statute of limitations on these things.
They could at least let the election run its course.
Let him win or lose fair and square, then make up their minds.
But while he is pulling, as you say, higher than he's ever done, and then to try to throw him in jail and let him rot until he's dead, this is something that many, many Americans cannot take.
We cannot stomach this.
I want to give a shout out to, I don't know if he's listening, but Professor Thomas Mayne, who wrote the book on the alt-right and follows my work.
I know he's on Twitter.
He's the quintessential example of someone who's just completely unable to get it in his own bubble and doesn't see how these things are perceived.
Ladies and gentlemen, we're going to take another quick break.
But when we come back once again live from Alabama's Southern Cultural Center, SouthernCulturalCenter.com, we will continue this wonderful riveting conversation between Brad Griffin of Occidental Descent and Jared Taylor of Amrin.com.
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All right, everybody.
Back with Jared Taylor and Brad Griffin from the Southern Cultural Center.
We're having a great time tonight.
Wish everybody in the audience could have been here with us this evening.
We've had a lot of good times in the back-to-back weekends.
But anyway, we were talking during the break, gentlemen, about your reaction to the latest indictment from Fulton County, Georgia.
That is one of the counties that makes up metropolitan Atlanta.
And once again, there, you have a black sheriff and a black district attorney, Fonnie Willis.
And you have the Fulton County Sheriff, Patrick Labot, Saying, laughing, smirking as he says, we'll have Trump's mugshots for you, you know, because he hasn't been forced to do the perp walk where he goes in and gets a mugshot like a standard petty criminal would have.
But the Fulton County Sheriff there laughing as he says, we're going to have the smirking and smiling.
We'll get the mugshot.
Fonnie Willis cracking jokes.
I mean, literally, she's a black woman.
I mean, that's just a matter of fact what she is.
She's the district attorney there.
And she has her press conference to roll out the indictments to make it official.
And, Brad, tell the audience and Jared what you saw.
I mean, it's obviously gloating, but explain it in your own words, and then we'll get Jared's reaction to it.
In my own words, reaction to Fannie Willis, it was, you know, they were like in full-blown triumph.
They were dancing in the end zone.
And I really do think they're playing with fire here because, I mean, there's a lot of people who, I mean, millions of people who would already say under the, maybe not say it publicly, but they think there's no way that Trump could get a fair trial there.
But to actually put the country through the experiment of a corrupt, black, big city district attorney deciding who's going to be the next president of the United States, that is putting the fairy tales and the lies we all enter.
That's putting it under the most stress I think we've ever seen.
I think when you call it dancing in the end zone, you're absolutely right.
There is a kind of sense of fair play we have that they don't.
And when you see them gloating like that, it is just intolerable.
I suspect there are many white Democrats who hate Donald Trump, but they see something like that and they think, hold on, what are we dealing with?
Is this the country we want?
Is this the kind of attitude we want towards one's political enemies?
I think this is deeply disturbing to a whole lot of people, no matter what their political point of view is.
I mean, we're at the point now where the just, I mean, if you just count the things, faith in elections, faith in federal law enforcement, even support for the military has already started to collapse.
And to, I mean, I can just, I just, this is going to torch the, I mean, the purpose of elections is really to like legitimize the transfer of power.
It's the procedure.
It's a legitimizing mechanism.
Yes.
And they're torching the mechanism to own Trump.
That's right.
That's true.
And that is going to lead to all sorts of.
Their lust for vengeance is tearing the country apart in a way that they absolutely fail to understand.
There's something, there's a statistic that I've been following for years, and that is trust in the federal government.
Back in the Eisenhower era, when you asked Americans, do you trust the federal government to do the right thing all the time or almost all the time?
You know what the figure of trust was?
About 80%.
80%.
Can you imagine living in a country in which 80% of the people think the federal government do the right thing all the time or almost all the time?
That is a completely foreign land.
Today, it's maybe 15%, 20%.
And it just keeps going down.
Yeah, I mean, I'm middle-aged now, and I can never remember a time when people trusted the government.
And there's a whole generation that's come up below me, which has never seen anything but like this decline.
Now, we were talking about the 60s earlier, the Vietnam era, Nixon.
And the most amazing thing to me is that even through all that, people actually trusted the government.
trusted the media of all things.
And the election was stolen from Richard Nixon in 1960.
He just let it go.
And then when the deep state led the coup against Nixon in office, he resigned and waved goodbye.
But that's not the result we're going to get.
Jared, respond to that, please.
Something else.
I remember I was very anti-Nixon at the time.
But then when, oh, heck, who was this vice president who became president?
No, no, no, no, the one who became president.
Ford.
Ford, Ford, Ford.
Then Ford said, no, we're not going to prosecute him.
There was a certain understanding of how much tension the country could take.
At that time, I was kind of a lefty.
I thought Richard Nixon deserved to be just nailed to the side of a barn.
But Ford had an understanding of there are limits.
There are limits to personal vendetta.
There are limits to the kind you can reach your breaking point.
I think the Democrats have absolutely no idea that there is a breaking point.
It's also worth noting that the fascist dictator Donald Trump, who famously called for Hillary Clinton to lock her up, also understood of that on some level.
It was campaign rhetoric.
And after he won the election, he's like, he kind of let it go.
She didn't let it go.
She was, in fact, on MSNBC or CNN the other night dancing in the end zone, cheering on the indictment, and has been trying to figure out what went wrong ever since.
Brad, we had mentioned this earlier today.
Next year is going to take polarization.
I mean, I don't know.
Tell us very quickly, what is the political stress level?
This is something that's sort of observed in political science.
This isn't just a term that we've made up.
Right.
I mean, polarization and instability and lack of trust can go so far.
And then once it reaches a certain threshold, then you have a conflict breakout.
I mean, I don't want to say it could give on, but I mean, that's how these things go.
A conflict breaks out.
Two sides polarize.
They fight.
And then the winner vanquishes.
I mean, we're in a building.
We're kind of like, you know, focused on how that happened in the past.
And that's how these things are resolved.
So I think next year, I mean, to the extent that we are polarized now.
Is it the actual bottom next year?
That's what we're going to find out.
Well, but here's the thing.
I don't think whatever happens with Trump is going to be the event that makes people uncomfortable.
It's going to have to be an economic collapse.
They're going to have to be uncomfortable in a way that there's real threat to their existence, not just that they're upset about an election.
So I don't think Trump's, whatever happens with Trump next year is not going to be the event that brings about this event, but it will probably be an economic collapse, or they could mismanage the situation with Russia, China, and Taiwan.
But here is, I want to see if you and Jared agree on this.
This was a comment.
I can't remember which website.
I make the rounds every day.
This was in the comment section of one of the websites.
It may have been yours, Brad.
It was in response to this situation in Atlanta.
And the commenter writes, this appears to be another show of strength.
But I see it as evidence of the regime's fragility.
Yes, they seem to be escalating their attacks without serious challenge.
There's no clear path for opponents to change this.
But these moves themselves are signs of increased volatility.
An increase in the rate of change, even if all in one direction, increases the expected likelihood of sharp changes in the other direction.
I don't know where countervailing changes will come from, but great men recognize opportunities and volatility has always created such opportunities.
Now, not only do we have volatility, but we still have millions of Americans, many still possessing significant social and financial capital, growing ever more alienated by the current system.
A stable regime would not escalate like this.
No one with firm control voluntarily increases political volatility in his domain.
Present conditions may appear to be grim, but these desperate moves reveal the fragility of the status quo and the possibility of rapid, significant changes.
Changes could be positive if men are ready to act.
Do you agree with any of that, Jared?
Yes, I do.
Yes, I do.
Why is it, why is it that you and I can't have a Twitter account?
That's just one little question.
Why can't I have a YouTube channel?
Why can't we actually go into a university and debate a place in a place that university, that means all ideas, universal ideas?
Why is the regime so desperate to shut us out?
If it's a confident regime, wouldn't they be entirely confident in their ideas?
These days, they act as if one of us actually has a YouTube channel, that's going to destroy democracy.
Barack Obama himself said the internet is the greatest threat to our democracy.
For heaven's sake, for heaven's sake, that means if we actually can talk, we are going to destroy the democracy.
What kind of democracy is that that can be blown down like a house of cards just because people who disagree with what's going on actually get a chance to talk?
I've got to say what I want your response to that, Brad, but I've got to say this.
This was actually a serious quote by one of the regime's functionaries.
You would think that this is something that's a parody or a joke, but they were worried, and this was what they said: quote, the next election may be the first in American history where the majority votes against democracy.
You know, they play with words in such an insane way.
The idea is if the people, if the people actually have a chance to express themselves, if they don't agree with us, then that destroys democracy.
This is so foolish.
This is so arrogant.
The idea that, okay, democracy works fine so long as you vote the way I want you to.
And they have no idea how they sound.
This goes to show you how out of touch they are not only with the American people, but of any kind of real principle of how government should operate.
Democracy for these people, our democracy is we win.
There's never a we lose.
And the question is, the question you were getting at, when you discussed this at length in your speech, both at Amran and today, the thing that's got them so spooked is for a long time, I mean, a system can maintain normal, stay normal, when there's always going to be people who are radical.
There's always going to be so-called extremists.
And that is normal.
But sometimes when the system gets really diseased, the number of radicals starts going vertical.
And that is what has changed.
That is what's happened since 2016.
Not just 2016, but especially since 2020 and the last three years.
It's just gone through the roof.
Things that we used to talk about at this conference, and I can name three, Christian nationalism, southern secession, national divorce talk, the interests and welfare of whites.
That is, that's the horse is broken loose.
It's escaped the building.
It's taken off.
It's out there now.
I agree.
I agree 100%.
This is a significant change.
Ladies and gentlemen, how about that first hour?
We still got two more to go.
Y'all having a good time out there tonight.
That's wonderful.
More from, I think we'll continue this conversation a little while longer in the second hour before we get to John and John, Friend and Hill, and maybe a little Ed Boardwide, maybe even a little Ruthan.