Aug. 12, 2023 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network and this is the Political Cesspool The Political Cesspool known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program and here to guide you through the murky waters of the political cesspool is your host James Edwards
And welcome everybody to tonight's live broadcast of TPC.
I'm your host James Edwards this Saturday evening August the 12th and this is a different type of show.
We're live tonight from the floor of the American Renaissance 2023 conference.
It is literally taking place around us as we sit right now.
We have a break in the action.
They are retooling the room for the dinner banquet and the keynote speech, which will be delivered by Dries Van Langenhove, who is a representative from Belgium and good friends, with our good friends Philip The Winner and Anca over there.
And anyway, it has been so far and it's still certainly not over, but it has been a wonderful weekend of fellowship and renewal.
And standing here with me, or rather sitting here with me, is Keith Alexander.
Both of us are here tonight.
How you doing Keith?
I'm doing great.
Really enjoying the scenic atmosphere around here and the good fellowship that you always have in Gamer and Thomas.
That's absolutely right.
So well interference from Angela so far and I tell you what this place has been close as you can because we got a lot I want to just say too if anybody's wondering we've got a lot of background noise because obviously we are in the midst of a lot of people so you're going to hear people chattering in the background and I love that actually I think it makes for a better radio atmosphere and environment and so you're going to hear people coming and going a lot of action happening right now.
I was going to say they've raised the bar of a few Nazis here at the Montgomery Dallas State Park Lodge Mars.
It's really, you know, the swamp.
Yes, that guy, it's as nice as any they have certainly refurbished and remodeled this place.
It is not that it was exceedingly poor before, but now it is as good as any chain hotel you would have an event like this at.
So you get the best of both worlds.
You get your First Amendment protection and you get nice accommodations, really top flat accommodations.
And so anyway, Keith, you have been here.
You've been witnessing everything throughout the course of the events so far.
Give us some takeaways.
Well, unsurprisingly, James gave the best presentation.
I mean, he brought the house.
Well, this guy, he's got to say that.
You understand that, ladies and gentlemen.
I told him he had to say that.
I really don't have to say that.
I'm saying that from my heart.
He really gave a strange speech and the best reaction.
And, of course, all of the speeches were great.
Everything, all the people did involve first rate.
Excuse me.
Our good friend Jared Taylor Holmes puts on the first rate presentation and program here at Hannah and Mark.
I've got to say, I appreciate what my friend just had to say and his critique, but it's been one outstanding presentation after another.
The speakers have been Ricardo Duquesne, Professor Duquesne.
We'd love to talk to him again.
We're going to grab it.
What's going to happen over the course of the show tonight?
We're just going to be grabbing people.
I'm looking at none other than Mr. Wallace himself.
Mr. Occidental Descent, Brad Griffin, is standing about five feet from me as we sit right now.
Yeah, in just a few minutes.
We'll do it in a few minutes.
So, what we're going to be doing tonight is just taking people from the crowd, different speakers, different people who were here who are.
I would love to talk to Keith Woods.
Yeah, I would love to talk to Keith Woods.
This is what I was saying.
We're going to be grabbing as many different people in the crowd, not just the speakers, although we're going to try to feature as many of the speakers at this weekend's event as we can over the course of the next three hours and let you hear in their own words a little synopsis at least of the message they delivered to the assembled troops.
And we'll be talking with other people in the crowd who certainly cast a large shadow.
I mean, certainly there is a great injustice when you have heroes and legends like Mark Weber and Ed Fields who are not on the program this year, but nevertheless, in the crowd, people like that.
When you are able to address people like that and have them in your audience, you're certainly part of a special gathering.
So, yes, Ricardo Duquesne was the opening speaker today, a professor from Canada, Keith Woods, an island for everyone, Ireland at Crossroads.
He was the second speaker.
Stephen McNallen, as we just mentioned, he's doing some very interesting work here in Tennessee that I think they'll want to know about.
Ruben Caleb, former member of Parliament out of Estonia, was the speaker immediately after lunch.
I followed Ruben.
The time of my speech was Reasons for Optimism.
I actually posted to the politicalscale.org just yesterday the video of my speech from the countercurrents conference last fall where I was public speaker.
And a lot of the elements of that were included in my speech, but it was updated.
And I would say, I don't know, maybe about 50% of that, 50% new content today.
Gregory Hood.
I was ready to go.
I tell you what.
Gregory Hood.
And then, as we mentioned, the keynote speaker tonight would be Fries Van Langenho from Belgium.
And then tomorrow, the Two Lions.
The Two Lions.
Our champions, Jared Taylor and Sam Dixon tomorrow.
And we're seeing a lot of friends and faces, Keith, from battles past.
People from the old Council of Conservative Citizens, Linda Baum, Bill Lord, Ray Martin.
Yeah, you know, all of the wonderful people.
People who've been involved in this since before the year 2000.
Yeah.
It's really incredible.
The longevity of us in how it is in the last 18 years.
Yeah, that's right.
But it's good.
You know, we've been around long enough.
We've had a lot of friends.
And some of the friends we haven't seen in some time.
So it's been great to rekindle those acquaintances.
Well, Keith, you mentioned my talk.
If you don't mind, and if I could ask you, what was the how would you convey to the audience what we talked about?
The royal weed of it.
Well, it was really kind of a call to our telling people just exactly the dire stories of the race and how it's really working to our advantage as members of white advocacy.
The left has done more in the past five years than we could have done in 20 years.
To move us to the forefront, to move our issues to the forefront, to make people aware of what's all gone.
And it's really incredible what has happened to.
Our movement has gained so much momentum in the past.
Well, really, ever since Trump went down the escalate and things have- I mean, that's- That's what we were talking about, how so much has changed at the political point.
You mentioned Trump numerous times.
And I said inadvertently, he has caused this to come out.
He has caused the left to go so unhinged.
If they had any discernment, if they had any awareness, they would just wait him out and then let the demographic clock continue to tick.
Because they are so drunk on their hatred of us, they are overplaying their hand and it's caused a great awakening of racial consciousness that is still nascent, but it is developing.
And of course, the situation has just continued to deteriorate in terms of the social cohesion.
It's going to open up some opportunities.
That was basically the gist of the talk.
Well, and it was, you said it was a time of option for calls for optimism.
It really is because our moon has just been going along the way they had in 2013.
Mitt Romney is your standard bearer, John McCain.
You're not going to win with guys like that.
Yeah, and you're also not going to get it.
No matter who wins, we lose.
Yeah, that's right.
Trump absolutely pushed all their buttons.
He is uniquely positioned to cause them to overreact.
And that's what they've done.
And as a result, many people are put down or turned off by it and they've moved our side.
All right, we're going to take our first break for the evening.
We're going to have one haymaker after another people coming in.
And I think Brad Griffin's first on deck, but we've got to find him.
So let's see if we can find him and we'll be right back.
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Do we have to go back for it?
Okay, yeah, that's what we're talking about.
Yeah, you got it, you got to get some energy.
It's a need to get some energy.
Well, I try to get it to see you now.
I couldn't find it.
Yeah, I spoke with Shoe.
Hello, everybody.
Here's somebody right now with James moving Caleb up from the start.
Did you miss the flight?
James, you got to do this.
All right, here we go, ladies and gentlemen.
Our first guest of the night is he doesn't need the headset because we're not taking calls.
Our first guest of the night is an esteemed guest indeed, Ruben Caleb, who gave a wonderful speech towards the 21st century ethno-nationalism, a former member of parliament from Estonia.
Hello, great to be here.
And I have very much coveted one of your appearances on this program.
As I shared with you earlier, we do a special series called March Around the World where we talk with different thought leaders and elected officials throughout Europe.
And as Keith Alexander and I had probably the shortest trip of anyone here, two hours from Memphis, you came all the way from the Baltic area.
You came from Estonia and you're here now and we're honored to have you.
Yes, it's really hard to be here.
And it's my second time in America and speaking at the Hammering Conference.
My first was in 2016 and that was before I was elected anywhere either in the city council or the parliament.
I would actually say, as I said in my speech, that the scandals in the Estonian Liberal press that followed my first speech in September were the one thing that got me this support and votes that allowed me to government.
Well, I want to talk to you about two things in the limited amount of time.
I would love to have you on later, perhaps after you return home for a full hour, because I think it would be fascinating to learn the issues on the ground in Estonia, some of the things that Estonians are faced with.
But I actually pulled Ruben from a gaggle of admirers.
He was in the middle of a holding court and he stepped away for just a few minutes to be on the program.
But I'd ask you two questions.
The first question would be: number one, getting elected to parliament, I mean, that is an amazing accomplishment.
No matter what the nation, that nation's parliament, that nation's governing body, you were elected having been fully outed as somebody that had these beliefs.
How does that happen?
That's remarkable as an American to see people in Europe being elected with these beliefs that it's not even a question.
It wasn't even something that they had to dox.
You went into that.
I would say that in addition to being a strong, outspoken politician who stands up for a nation and greets speeches and so on,
you also need a great team and organization working for you in the election campaign, in training all these background things without which a single candidate would lack very much these capabilities.
And we had this very well-built, strong nationalist party in Estonia.
That's wonderful to hear this party or ECRAF.
What were the issues that you ran on?
When you were campaigning, what were the issues that propelled you into elected office?
I actually built my campaign on three slogans.
I stand for Estonian nation, Estonian independence, and Estonian nature.
These are three things that we must preserve in order to have our country to have something to give to our descendants and for them to live in the country that their forefathers was.
And that was obviously a message that was well received by your constituents.
Is the allegation of so-called racism, is it interpreted and understood in a different way over there than it is for Americans?
Is it something that's a negative stigma?
Is it something that they don't really, I think, doesn't necessarily carry that kind of stigma as it does in America.
When I was asked about this in internals and so on, I always said that for me it's a meaningless world.
Meaning smart.
It doesn't mean anything in an ideological sense.
It's just a curse word by the leftists for the people who stand up for the right.
And I have heard that in Eastern Europe it really is sort of received in a different way because you don't have this so-called diversity and multiculturalism over there that we have here.
So just, you know, I don't think it, as you said, that packs the same hunt.
What are the issues in Estonia right now?
What are the main issues facing the Estonian people?
What are the main issues that they are concerned about?
Ultimately, the most important issue in the long term, but also more and more in the short term, is our ethnic survival.
Because we are a very small nation.
We're just one million people, one million Estonians in a country of one by three million.
And we have seen, we have a lot of ancient nations around us who are related to us and we have seen them going extinct.
Like the Philippines tribes living in Russia, they used to be great nations with great histories.
Now, in many of these nations, they have just few people who want to make a language and their culture.
And on the other hand, we also see what's happening in Western Europe and this mass immigration.
And more and more Estonian people do understand that if that is happening to Estonia, that would be catastrophic.
I would love, as I said a couple moments ago, Ruben, and again, Ruben Caleb as our guest right now, the first one kicking on this live broadcast from American Renaissance.
I would love to have you back on the full hour.
I think Estonian history is just such a beautiful place.
I've been to Vienna.
I've read a lot about it, looked at a lot of pictures.
Beautiful place, beautiful people.
I would love to dive in more with you at a greater extent at a later time.
But is there a sense of identity amongst Estonians that surpasses that of the Western European nations?
And it shows, is that identity more nationalistic or racial?
There's a very strong nationalistic identity in Estonia.
It's because the whole reason why we have our own independent nation state for just one million people is because we need this homeland to preserve our people.
If we didn't think or care about that, we could just join our richest neighbor like Sweden.
Would you say that, I'll just ask very quickly, and then I got to get a question to Keith because we only got about two minutes left, but would you say that the health of Estonia is better than that of Latvia?
Yeah, definitely.
If we look at ethnic identity, national feelings and also the underlying spirituality below that, which I think of the space, we have, I think, even the most liberal Estonians have a grasp at some level of that national identity.
Last question, Keith, you got one minute.
I've noticed difference from your speech and from also speaking with a young lady from Latvia, earlier in the comments.
There's a lot of difference between the movement that we both represent here in America and what you represent in America.
In Europe, everybody seems to be interested in this specific case.
Now, how do we talk about white nationals?
In other words, as far as we're concerned, you can be from Finland or from Sicily, as long as you're on European and white.
You can be part of our family.
Can you explain why everything is focused on the nation's and ethnicity?
Thank you.
I think it's very important not to view these two layers of identity when you're basically ethnic national and racial and civilizational identity as in opposition.
I think they help each other.
They support each other.
They're part of one whole.
And having groups in a very specific place, in very particular, it only strengthens also the feeling of nature each in our racial feeling of unity.
Ladies and gentlemen, Ruben Caleb has been our esteemed and featured guest here.
This first appearance of the night.
The speeches that you missed, if you're not here in Burton, will be available at the American Shelves website very soon.
Ruben, how else do people find you in the state tested units?
Well, right now, when I left Parliament, I went to live in Countryside and I basically feel that I want to be in social media as less as possible.
You're taking it.
Okay, I see.
You're taking a little break.
You can find me in Facebook and you can write me an email, Ruben.com at UN.com.
There you go, ladies and gentlemen.
Ruben, call up, everybody.
Give him the big round of the floor.
Woo!
Wonderful.
Thank you, my friend.
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Welcome back, everybody.
We are live from the American Renaissance Conference.
You just heard from Ruben Caleb all the way from Estonia, Keith.
He had a little bit harder to come from.
That's for sure.
Let's bring another esteemed guest on, a gentleman like Ruben, making his first appearance here at this conference.
People, men we knew by reputation before today, but now we know in person.
Stephen McNallon is with us, and he gave a speech this morning.
Stephen, how are you doing?
Hey, I'm doing pretty good.
As close as you can.
Awful background noise here, and I've got infantry ears anyway, so I'm not too sure how well this will work out, but I'll give it my absolute best.
You've got it coming.
Okay, how's that?
That's perfect.
You are set up the way we need you to be.
So I will use my radio voice and try to get over the din of sound in the background.
Share with us, Stephen, first of all, who you are.
Then say hello to the audience and introduce yourself.
Well, I'm Stephen McMallan.
I'm the founder of the OsterTruth Bolt Assembly, which is a native European religious organization.
I have been involved with that for somewhat more than half a century.
It's great to be here at this gathering where I can hear people of European heritage who love who they are and who love their people.
Everything here is entirely positive.
It's upbeat.
It's encouraging.
It's just a real delight to be here and around people that are motivated and trying to do the right thing.
I read some very interesting things about you not too long ago and things that I very much enjoyed reading and things that I liked.
You're interesting in so much as your native Texan, if I understand correctly.
Confederate, veteran.
I don't know about that.
Excuse me.
That's right.
That may be a nice truth.
I'm not that old.
You know what I meant.
But a native Texan now living in California, but doing some very interesting work right here in Tennessee.
Yes, yes, here at this conference.
We've got, of course, the relationship with folks here.
But the Ostra Truth Book Assembly, which I don't actually, I'm not representing it per se.
My wife is the one who actually could tell you a lot about that.
But yes, the organizations that I'm affiliated with, the ones that follow the old European ways.
We got stuff happening.
Hey, you got a big laugh or really applause, I think, out of the audience today as you were making a point.
the thunder roared through and we had a little bit of a almost look like a hurricane come through I was in the restaurant for a part of it.
There was some sort of a monsoon happening to drowned out some of the belligerents outside.
Look at what you assembled today.
But that thunder accentuated a point you were making during your talk.
But yeah, the situation in Tennessee, we talked about building parallel communities, places where people could come together and support one another, and not just in spirit or in theory, but very tangible.
In order to do that, you've got to have land.
You've got to be doing some things that you have a hand in.
Well, you've got to have land.
You've got to have mature people that are involved in your particular project.
You need to plan it out carefully before you do it.
And there will always be personnel problems, and people are going to sometimes not agree with each other.
But you try to get people that are on the same frequency, who share your ideals, who share your goals, and who share your enthusiasm.
Absolutely right.
And so, and that's what I love about gathering such as things.
Because as one of our sponsors put it, there's no strangers, just friends who haven't met yet.
I have this philosophy where if we can find one area of agreement, let's lock in on that and let's foster that.
Let's work together to build upon that, as opposed to looking for things, looking for reasons why we should disassociate.
Well, I like him on all of these other issues, but I don't like this particular aspect of the program, so we're just going to break company and continue to be separated.
Anyway, that's a little parenthetical departure.
But break down, if you could, with the couple of minutes we have remaining, your talk today.
For those who missed it, for those who have to wait for the video to be ready, give us maybe two or three minutes synopsis of what you shared with those here today.
Let's see if I can get it down into that simple framework.
As I describe it, it sounds like some high intellectual thing, but it really isn't.
I gave a quick summary of Dr. Carl Jung's material on the collective unconscious and specifically on the Wolton archetype.
Now, I personally have followed the old gods of the North for somewhat more than half a century.
I certainly do not demand that others do so or expect them to.
But it is my way or one of my ways of approaching my European heritage.
And because of that, I feel a deep attachment to our people that cause the faith and the people to go together.
It's an interesting time we're in.
Jung predicted back in, well, about two years before I was born, that we would see the wisdom aspect of the Germanic god Bolton, which was Odin to the North and Woollien to the Saxons.
That we would see his wisdom side manifest after all the turmoil of the 1940s and all the stuff going on in the middle of the last century.
And we are on the edge of that.
We're in a position to see this happen.
I think we can see a revival of the European-descended peoples that will sprout and bring us all happiness.
Let me ask you this, Stephen.
This being a Christian program, and us being from a Christian background, and I have shared my experiences in the church, both good and bad, and I am more than capable of not just seeing, but articulating the deficiencies of the church these days with regards to our issues.
Let's talk about networking and cross-pollination amongst Christians and those who subscribe to your belief.
Because here's the thing: of course, this is how I was born and raised.
I appreciate the nest in which I flourished.
It got me here today, sitting here and speaking at Amnon and sitting with you.
But I see this as I know that not everybody in our movement obviously shares the Christian faith.
And there are a lot of Christians that I can't stand to be in the same room with.
And when it comes down to it, I will always want to network with people who are working for the betterment of our race.
So talk about if there are cooperation that you've noticed between Christians and those in your community.
Yes.
Yeah, our community, Alsa True is the former name of our religion, so we are also true art.
And the thing is, we have so much in common.
We have so much in common.
We believe in honor.
We believe in courage.
We believe in truth.
We believe in the future of our people.
That's the tide of.
Yeah, that's right.
That's what I wanted to get to.
Yeah, and I just want to emphasize that everybody I knew when I was a child were Christians.
My mother, my father, everybody I knew I absolutely do not now hear some sort of an anti-Christian.
I wanted to get to this.
I appreciate you addressing that.
But of course, going back to our Confederate ancestors, who I know that you have a great affinity for.
Oh, my goodness, yes.
Yes, my heroes.
Hear, here.
We can't afford to squabble over stuff like this.
I will defend the rights of Christians to their beliefs.
I will fight alongside them.
And not to be dramatic, but if it came to dying next to them, I'll share blood with them.
I would say the exact same thing in response to what you just said.
I would double down on that.
I believe the exact same thing.
I mean, of course, there's a different sort of brotherhood and camaraderie that you and I can have for one another, even though we don't necessarily share the same faith that I can't share with other Christians who have just completely sold themselves out to the official narrative and to, I mean, it's just a sickening thing to witness.
But I appreciate you sharing that because this is the point.
And you said it without me even having to prompt you, but I feel the exact same way.
We will stand shoulder to shoulder when the rhetorical or perhaps even literal shooting starts.
If it comes down to that.
It'd be an honor.
If it comes down to that, I would be glad to stand by your side.
And I, you, my friend.
How can people find out a little bit more about your efforts and stay in contact with you?
We've got about a minute remaining.
Okay.
Well, I can be reached in post office box 445 in the city of California.
95959.
Email, wolfagemedia at gmail.com.
That's wolfage media lowercase all run together.
And I'd be glad to correspond with anybody who's interested in that.
I've got a website at Steven McNally.
Stephen.
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That would be me.
Not a PhD, just a PH.
Yeah.
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And I hear the music beginning as we go into our next break, but I believe it could have, I think it was the SBLC.
I read a most impressive article about you recently that again goes back to that groundbreaking in Tennessee, literal groundbreaking, that your organization is part of.
And we will stay tuned and we will talk to you again very soon.
Stay tuned, everybody else.
We'll be back.
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And we're back, ladies and gentlemen, with another prestigious face in the crowd, none other than Mr. Hunter Wallace himself, Brad Griffin of Occidental Ascent.
And he is joined by his lovely wife, Renee Nay Baum.
Is that how you say it?
Ney Renee.
We will sing just walk away, Renee, before the end of the night.
I always do that when I'm around Renee.
But anyway, the daughter of the late, great Gordon Baum.
Any reason to invoke the name of Gordon Baum, we will take advantage of it.
So tonight, both of you.
That's right, Gordon Baum.
We've got a lot of council guys here.
Thank you.
God bless Gordon.
I know he's looking down on us from heaven.
Brad, it's great to have you with us tonight.
I know you were with us not too long ago, just what, three or four weeks ago, within the last month, it seems.
You made your most recent appearance on TPC.
What do you think about the conference so far?
Get us close.
You got to almost kiss that thing.
You got to have that right on it.
We're getting bad comments from Rich Hammond saying he can't hear people.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, that's fine.
Thanks for asking me, Jesus.
It's great to be here at the conference.
It'll be great to see everybody.
Basically, once a year, you know, we all get together.
That's right.
At least.
At least once.
At least once.
Maybe twice.
But not nearly enough.
But it never seems like it's been that long because everything's blurred out.
You're in the same stage of life that I'm at.
He's in a different stage.
But we've got the kids, and everything's so busy, and it's just like a time break.
It just blurs, and it's just, you know.
We're in the gen x dad stuff.
Yeah, you're right.
You and I are right around the same age and in that same generation.
I love what you wrote recently at OD about how we are positioned at the intersection of.
I actually just read this last night.
I didn't know you were coming.
I'll share the story in a second.
But anyway, we exist at the intersection of Christianity, white nationalism, and neoconfederacy, I think is how you put it.
Southern nationalism.
There you go.
Southern nationalism.
Paleo-conservatives.
That's right.
Post-liberalism.
There's a lot of isms around.
That's where we're at.
That's where we have barked ourselves.
That's our line.
But from there, we network with a lot of different people.
You just heard from Stephen McNowan, who have a lot of respect for.
Comes from a different place, needless to say, but we're still a lot of commonality on certain key issues.
Well, anyway, Brad, I think and I hope if there's one person in the room today that enjoyed what I had to say, I hope it was you.
And I'll tell you who.
Yeah, yeah, I recognize a lot of the same ground on my website.
That's absolutely right.
And I had to make mention of Brad.
I don't want to be like Reverend Dr. King and just outright plagiarize attribution.
I wanted to give the credit to Brad during my talk, and I think I mentioned you at least twice that, hey, this is what Brad put together.
Oh, and here's another Brad quote from the Occidental.
Get rid of applause, by the way.
You're all right there during the talk today.
But yeah, I mean, as I said during my address, you have just an uncanny knack of being able to put into the spoken word or in the written form exactly what I'm seeing and want to articulate.
So, you know, I'll be a little lazy.
Why am I going to try to improve upon exactly the way I see it?
We'll just say, hey, we'll just read it.
You're like a de facto and unofficial producer of the show.
And I think I say this pretty much every week.
Every week we say, Occidental descent.
You're always getting a quote.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Well, it's pretty bold stuff that the ground we covered here.
We'll see what happens next year.
But did you agree, though?
And you and I and Jared Taylor and Mark Weber were sort of in a sidebar there earlier today.
It may not be next year.
I think, you know, the Trump.
Well, talk about what's coming next year because I love what, again, I loved what you said.
I loved it so much.
I included my talk today.
That as we sit here in what could be the last normal summer, people really, I don't think, are factoring in or comprehending how next year could play out.
Yeah, I mean, I really do think, like, even though everyone, even though everyone around us can absolutely see everything that's going on, there really isn't an awareness of how extraordinary of how extraordinary the situation is, where you have like a presidential race, like a mix of Donald Trump winning the Republican nomination, and probably being sent to prison in the Middle East.
How extraordinary, destabilizing, how radical of a move that is.
At least Lincoln was moderate enough to only lock up entire state legislatures.
He didn't arrest Jefferson Nixon.
And James, you gotta look at it.
It's in the context of a bunch of other things.
Unprecedented lawfare.
You know, you saw his, he also got convicted of raping E.G. Carroll in New York.
Another thing I brought up today, and he's saying, hey, I'm not even going to go to these.
Yeah, I didn't even go to the defamation trial.
I know I can't get a pair of crowns in New York or D.C. There are so many things that's happening that we can't even listen to.
Brad, I've got something for you that you may not know, which is a tall order, I might add.
But somebody in the Atlanta area who is here tonight mentioned to me that at the courthouse in Atlanta, CNN crews proposed around the clock waiting for Fonnie Willis to issue the next indictment and arrest.
Yes, and see.
That's imminent.
And James, you see, I mean, the theory is that, you know, Trump is facing already over 75 felony charges.
And it's probably going to be up to at least another dozen within the next week.
But these are these charges coming out of Georgia are state charges.
So even if in the event he was elected president and he was able to pardon himself, he wouldn't be able to pardon himself on the state charges.
So in theory, he could be elected president of the United States and be convicted by an Atlanta jury and sent to prison by a prosecutor.
Keith and I talk about this all the time.
It's just, you know, you always hear, oh my God, how terrible it would be for a black man to have an all-white jury in the South in the 50s and 60s.
But I tell you this, they could flesh out real justice a hell of a lot better than any of us going in front of a majority black jury in Atlanta or New York or whatever.
My major point I'm making is that if you just look around, all the signs of how bad things are going are obvious.
Everyone is going down these extreme, the most extreme paths possible.
And when it absolutely does, if it does ignite in a conflict, we'll look back on this year and it's like, you know, it was so obvious it was coming.
And that's my view.
Quick question.
Close to the mic as you can, Keith.
Brad, I'm not absolutely certain that he cannot be pardoned for state charges.
I think that, you know, Mark Levin, who professes to be an expert on everything, has said that the president can pardon himself.
He can pardon anyone in the United States or anywhere, basically, for anything.
Now, or compare what there's in the cards for Joe Biden versus Donald Trump.
Donald Trump has lost his opportunity.
Basically, everything that's happening with the impeachment trial of Joe Biden, that's just for show.
That's to get basically the public knowing what he did because there's no chance in the world that the Senate, which is run by the Democrats, is going to find Joe Biden guilty and remove him from office.
Basically, our legislature, our national legislature, has been co-opted into a political show to tell situation.
Old armies.
Not even getting any legislation.
And, you know, Joe Biden, on the other hand, has real serious criminal charges pending against him.
On the other hand, Donald Trump's offensive, he's supposed to are, for the most part, regular people's attention.
So, you know, there's just a great point.
No mutuality between what one has done versus the other.
The fact that we are to take Trump's Jeopardyological seriously than Joe Biden's is a miscarriage of justice in and of itself.
Before Brad answers, I would say, I mean, this is what the courts and the so-called justice system have come down to.
You wrote it again, Brad.
All that matters now is not the law, but whose side you're on.
Right, and exactly.
And this is another scenario where suppose Trump dodges somehow miraculously the vast majority of all these charges and he gets off of it and Florida and New York and D.C. Suppose he magically dodges all these bullets.
They've only got to connect on one, right?
Yeah, yeah, but suppose he actually goes down on one.
He's in the president, and suppose the Supreme Court intervenes and says, no, no, Trump, you can't prosecute.
Let's say the Supreme Court rules in favor of Trump and lets him out.
And then he wins the election.
And then it's the other side of the coin where the left, you know, being so worked up over affirmative action and abortion and already hates the Supreme Court.
Roger.
It's just going to shit.
We have set up a scenario that's usually shed on.
I'm going to have you on the screen.
Yeah, sure.
No, Brad, let me ask you this.
This was another thing we talked about.
I mean, and we've got about two minutes remaining.
Obviously, folks, if you're not going to Occidental Descent every day, not only am I there every day, I'm like, come on, Brad, give me another one.
Refresh, refresh, read it.
There it is.
All right, Occidental Descent.
One of my favorite websites in the whole world.
Maybe the favorite website in the whole world that I go to.
But I mentioned this today, too.
People have been saying the collapse is imminent.
It can't get any worse.
It's just the 70s.
But you and I, this is what we were talking about.
One minute left in our sidebar with Jared and Mark earlier is that it may not happen next year, although all of this going on with Trump that we've been talking about could be the catalyst.
It's probably going to take something a little more severe.
Our people are certainly going to have to go through harder times before they become tough enough to do what's necessary.
But you do think that within the next few years, there is going to be an event that recalibrates things and allows this boil to, this simmering boil to be vented one way or another, from the good and the bad.
James, I don't see any ending where this doesn't end in some kind of constitutional crisis.
I mean, there's so many multiple paths there.
They were inevitably going to end up in some kind of constitutional crisis next year.
And it's true people have been saying like things have, people have been predicting a collapse forever.
And that hasn't happened, obviously.
But in the long run, scheme of things, things do ultimately come true.
And this seems to be the pattern.
Well, if you want to know what I think about it, go to occidentaldescent.com and I know what Brad's been posting.
Hey, Brad, I love you, buddy.
And I love you too, Renee.
Y'all are family.
Appreciate it.
And it's great to be here with you tonight.
So the first hour live from the floor of the American Renaissance Conference is in the bag.
You've heard from Ruben Caleb from Estonia, Stephen McMallan, and Brad Griffin.