Feb. 3, 2018 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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All right, everybody, we're back with the second hour now, and we're having all sorts of technical gremlins here on the Memphis end of the operation, the local end.
I'm reduced now to sitting in the studio on a phone connected to the network.
Hey, but this is live radio.
Sometimes that happens.
It flared up early in the first hour for most of the Craig Roberts interview.
We were fine, and it did it again at the end, and so now we're starting off the second hour.
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But what's going to make it all better is our guest, Peter Brimelow, the editor of BeDare.com and author of the best-selling book, Alien Nation, Common Sense About America's Immigration Disaster.
He's going to be sharing his thoughts with us on Trump's State of the Union address, and he's going to help us continue our coverage of the current immigration debate that is the biggest one going on in Washington right now, I guess you could say.
Peter, welcome back to the show.
Thanks for having me on again, James.
Well, you're very welcome.
Like Craig Roberts, it's been too long since the last time, but sure it's not that long until the next time.
Well, I hope so.
I hope so.
I met Craig, as worded out, in 1971 in Stanford, when we were both at Stanford.
He was at the Hoover Institution, how was the business school?
So that's been a long time.
And he hasn't gotten any softer.
Well, you've both done a lot of good since 1971.
I can tell you that.
Well, you know, when I first knew Craig, we were very preoccupied with the Soviet Union and the Cold War.
And of course, you know, frankly, frankly, James, you know, nobody under the age of 35, except my wife, who I talked to about it, knows what the Cold War was nowadays.
But that time it was a real serious threat.
And we won.
And so the moral of the story is we can win again.
Well, that's what we're shooting for.
And we've got a long way to go.
This one may prove more difficult to win than the Cold War, but we're going to give it an honest effort.
I want to ask you, though, Peter, the same thing I asked Craig opening it.
And it's not the primary topic of our discussion tonight, but I would like to give your take because a lot of people are talking about it.
We don't have time to talk about it tonight unless we talk about it with the guests.
So state of the union.
How would you grade it?
Well, you know, you and I were at the American conference last year, James.
So my general push on Trump is he gets A plus for everything because he's not.
He gets A for everything because he's not Hillary Clinton and A plus because he's not Jeb Bush.
I mean, you know, you can't imagine how awful it would have been if I had those people been elected.
We'd have seen it.
Her would have gone full Merkle and we'd have a million refugees a year coming in and she was trying to swap the U.S. to knock out the historic American nation.
To answer your question more specifically, you know, technically, and I used to be a speechwriter in Washington, I thought it was well done.
And the game he's playing on immigration is not the game I'd like him to play, but it's a clever game.
And you can see signs that it really has put a lot of pressure on the Democrats.
I mean, he's made what I think is far too generous is perhaps the wrong word, capitulationist offer to them.
He's offered to amnesty far too many people.
He's offered to not cut off my reduce illegal immigration for far too long until they've got this backfog worked off.
It's a very, very generous offer and a soft offer, particularly considering that, you know, what we're booking at here is the future of the Republican Party and the historic American nation.
Electrically, that hands bangs by a thread like that right now.
I mean, every one of these people coming in, we're almost without exception, going to vote Democratic.
So basically, you're talking about swamping the historic American nation.
Fortunately for us, the Democrats are fools.
And that was the wonderful thing about the theater on that night.
I mean, they just maneuvered them into a situation of being anti-American.
He said all these patriotic things and how wonderful it is that the economy has gone and so on.
And they look really unhappy.
And above all, when he raised this question of chain migration, and let's not forget, four years ago, no one even heard of chain migration, unless you happen to read vdair.com or some of the immigration, patriot immigration reform, patriotic immigration reform websites, who were aware of this technical issue.
Basically, it's the issue, if they amnesty people in, those people will then be able to sponsor their own relatives in, and they'll be able to sponsor their relatives in, and so on, ad infinitum.
And that's how the system has been working since 1965.
Trump has now raised this question.
And he said, you know, this can't go on.
It's got to stop.
And his amnesty is not going to include that provision.
Well, of course, Democrats are actually booed at this point.
I mean, they're booing an attempt to basically protect the historic American nation.
And so he's maneuvered them into a situation which is quite really unprecedented.
I've been writing about this, as you know, James, since 1992.
I did that big cover story for National Review that ultimately became Alien Nation.
And the big problem all that time was that the Republicans, the issue was not polarizing on political grounds because we have so many cults in the Republican Party.
But he's driven them out.
I mean, just looking at the enthusiasm of the Republican members there, you know, it's his party now, and it is an immigration patriot party.
Well, it is.
And I would go back very quickly, Peter, with you to the reaction from the Democrats on the State of the Union.
And I guess this does tie into our central theme of tonight, which is immigration, because he focused a good deal of his address to that signature issue of yours.
But the Democrats now, even the mentioning of America or USA in certain contexts to them is white supremacist jargon.
And then, of course, you had the Congressional Black Caucus coming in in their African garb and they were playing Candy Crush on their iPhones during the address and all of that.
And then Luis.
Well, you know, you have to kind of a lot of attention to Pantopaid to listen to.
I mean, there's a lot of long words in it, you know, like, you know, border control and things like that.
You can't blame them for not being able to focus on it.
I guess not.
Then you had Luis Gutierrez, the representative from Illinois, go out and say it was an explicitly racist speech.
Yeah, well, you know, I've got news for him.
Sometime in the next few days, I'm going to write, what would a white nationalist state union look like?
And it goes a lot further than a lot further than Trump did.
But that's the wonderful thing.
I mean, he's just, the Democrats are just rising to the plate.
So the Republicans are going to go into the tube.
It's more than that.
I'm sorry?
It's just, it's, well, I.
I was going to say it's even more than that.
Well, I guess it is that, but maybe perhaps more so.
It has devolved now.
What is it?
What is it racism?
And what is it?
What is it white supremacy?
It's just, I mean, it is beyond a farce.
And that's to put it lightly.
But the only reason it has evolved to this extent is because we continue to entertain it and treat it as if it was serious.
And Trump himself doesn't do enough to push back against these ridiculous charges.
I was watching on Fox before the State of the Union address, Tucker Carlson.
I don't know if you've seen this, Peter.
I'm sure you might remember it.
But in 1995, Bill Clinton, in his State of the Union address, I believe it was 95, maybe 96.
He spoke about him.
We ran an article about this.
That's right.
He said all the things.
Right.
More tougher than what Todd Trump has said now, actually.
They all applaud.
It was, but that's the point.
So Bill Clinton said something that was much more stringent than Trump.
And it wasn't very stringent at all.
He just basically said we're going to secure it.
Of course, he didn't mean it.
He didn't say that.
Well, the times have changed.
We're going to secure the voters.
We're going to enforce our laws, et cetera, et cetera.
But even Tucker Carlson joke that that was a white nationalist speech by Bill Clinton about today's bench.
But we got to take a break.
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All right, guess I know, ladies and gentlemen, I ran into the break in that last section.
I'm not getting my normal cues from my producer in the headset because we are back to using telephones right now.
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We're all at the mercy of our technology, are we not?
But we are talking about a very important subject, very important topic with a very important guest, Peter Brimlow of BDAR.com.
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I didn't know until after they were already booked that they knew each other.
So we've had a little fun with that tonight.
But what we were talking about before the break, Peter, was the fact that by modern day standards, Bill Clinton gave a white nationalist sermon in his 1995 Senate Union address.
Trump himself didn't even come close to being as stern or stringent as Bill Clinton pretended to be.
Clinton was very shrewd about immigration.
And when Barbara Jordan, the Jordan Commission, made his preliminary recommendations, this was something that was set up in the early 90s.
He made his preliminary recommendations calling for dramatic reduction in immigration.
He actually endorsed it.
But then, of course, the Republicans didn't do anything about it.
They abandoned the Smith-Simpson bill, which enacted its provisions.
And so when Clinton saw that, of course, he stopped being worried that he was going to be outflanked on the immigration question.
What I think is even more amazing than Clinton, you know, is that Harry Reid, the former majority leader, actually in the 90s introduced a bill calling for an immigration moratorium.
I know there was no net immigration, which is, of course, what we should be going for.
That's what Trump should be going for, rather than this messing around with reducing it in 10 years' time.
And for a number of reasons, one of which is you don't have to say who's going to come in.
Nobody's going to come in.
It makes it a lot simpler in terms of making the argument.
You don't have to argue between competing ethnic groups who gets to come in.
But he abandoned it, of course, because he had leadership ambitions in the Democratic Party.
The Democratic Party's been very dramatic at the left in the last 20 years, and particularly since the last election.
Well, I guess I would ask you this now before we get to, we had Dr. Abernathy on Virginia, was on last week, and I'm going to ask you the same questions I asked her.
We're going to ask you to consult your oracle and tell us how this is all going to play out by the time a deal is eventually hammered out, how bad it's going to be, or potentially will it be surprisingly good.
We're going to get to that with Peter Brimlow in just a moment.
But with regard to the state of communication now, I mean, it's just with regard to how far the line has been pushed as to what is and is an acceptable speech now.
How much worse could it possibly get?
I mean, it is so absurd now that it really defies belief.
Even among, I guess you would agree, those of us who have been doing this for a number of years, it is just shocking how much it's been redrawn.
Are there ever going to be people in Washington like you and like Paul Craig Roberts, who was in Washington, that are going to just say enough's enough, let's get real.
Look, this is how it is, and we're not going to mince words about it.
Is that thing ever going to come?
Is it ever going to get ridiculous enough to where somebody puts the brakes on this thing?
I guess I'd say two things, James.
It's now obvious that the left had planned a real crackdown if Hillary Clinton won.
And they put a lot of that crackdown into effect.
You know, a lot of us lost things like Google AdS Tensor and PayPal and all that kind of thing last year.
They would have done all that.
But if the difference would have been that it would have been backed up by the power of the federal government.
We, for example, at VDA.com were 501c3.
We're a chargeable donation.
If you give us money, we can give you a tax deduction.
I'm sure that we would have lost that if Hillary Clinton had been elected, and so would American Renaissance and everybody else they could lay their hands on.
And so we have a partial leftist totalitarian coup going on at the moment.
They've done things like suppress speakers, even basically militoes like Charles Murray and Heather McDonald can't speak on campus conferences.
There's been thousands and thousands of attacks on Trump supporters.
And then, of course, there's also this ridiculous Charlottesville situation, which was a coup against a legal demonstration by elected, uniformed, unelected and power military Democrats.
I mean, they just suppressed the Freedom of Speech rally.
Now, the wonderful thing about that is that Trump knew what was going on.
He knew that the media narrative was wrong.
I don't know how.
How could he possibly have known it?
He's supposed to get all of his new intelligence from the cable television.
They certainly didn't report it.
Somehow instinctively knew that the narrative was wrong.
So I guess my second answer is, you know, miracles happen in politics.
He's there now.
And who knows what miracles will happen in the future?
Well, that's right.
I was thinking back in advance of your appearance this evening, Peter, about our last conversation on the radio, which I believe took place in the fall of 2015.
It was just after, I believe, Trump announced his candidacy.
I believe he wins in this case because he can win.
And you called a lot of things, and we talked about things that could happen that certainly manifested themselves.
And with regard to has Trump exceeded or fallen short of expectations from his candidacy, well, that's a topic for another day.
I think certainly he's fallen short, but with regard to the...
You know, James, as I say, first of all, I really think it's important to keep our eyes on the principal point is he's not Hillary Clinton.
We will.
We do really dodge a boy with that.
Well, the other thing is that, you know, I'm discontented with Trump in a number of ways, but you have to be patient about the way politics work.
I learned that.
You were too young, but I was on the Hill in 1979 when Reagan was elected.
And we all thought he was going too slow.
And he did go too slow in many different ways, but he still made a fundamental difference.
I mean, if it hadn't been for Reagan, I think the Soviet Union would still have been in existence.
I think the Americans would have been paying for it through the banking system.
I mean, he made a tremendous difference there.
And it was some time before everybody realized that a sea change had taken place.
No, Peter, I don't disagree with you at all.
And with regards to Trump, it was impossible expectations based upon his candidacy.
I mean, his candidacy was just a freewheeling ride to the Wild West.
It was just incredible.
And obviously, once you get into Washington having to deal with the courts and deal with Congress, it's just, even if that was his true intention, you're going to run into roadblocks.
So, no, I'm glad I voted for him.
I'm glad he's in there, not Hillary, if for no other reason, because I relished it.
Well, yeah, look, what he's saying on the immigration thing, we have an article at the moment by John Derby, which I recommend to you.
What he's doing in the immigration thing is a real gamble.
But as Congress is set up right now, there's really no chance of getting substantial immigration, patriotic immigration reform through.
Partly because the Republican senators are no damn good.
They're all of them awful in terms of immigration.
Well, that didn't bother me.
What I thought they ought to have done is made them vote up or down a whole string of issues, including, for example, birthright citizenship and an immigration maritime and abolishing the refugee statue so we don't have refugees coming to the country anymore and a whole bunch of things and then run on that in the next election.
That's what I would have done.
What he's tried to do is actually get significant reform by dangling this daggerly amnesty in front of the Democrats.
And, you know, maybe he'll get something.
But the real good thing about this, and what I think is the best outcome, is that it fails.
That the Democrats don't agree to anything.
DACA, there's no legislation.
This DACA thing expires.
And then the INS can start deporting them.
And he can run and will run in the next election.
The Republicans will run in 2018.
Say, the Lord did everything they could, but the Democrats were being unreasonable.
Peter, hold on right there, my friend.
We've got another break coming up.
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I think you pointed it out to us, James.
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Well, it was a pleasure to do so, believe me.
I want to play a clip for you, Peter, and then the most important thing we need to cover this segment is, and again, I guess your prediction is, well, it's probably better than most people's, but it is still just a prediction.
But we are going to ask you for your prediction on how this final deal on immigration will hammer out.
But first, I just want to quickly repeat again: when you have people like some of these Democrats who left the House chamber because members of Congress were chanting USA, USA, USA, when that qualifies as hate speech, it's gone too far.
There is no reasoning with these people.
No amount of cucking or virtue signaling can absolve a white man, quite frankly, from the ubiquitous charge of racism.
We must embrace our identity and solidify as a collective, like everyone else, common interests and common enemies.
And we got to do it before it's too late.
Because listen to this.
Here's a white supremacist speech from Hillary Clinton.
Let's listen to Hillary.
Mexico is such an important problem.
Mexican government's policies are pushing migration north.
There isn't any sensible approach except to do what we need to do simultaneously, you know, secure our borders with technology, personnel, physical barriers if necessary in some places.
And we need to have tougher employer sanctions and we need to try to incentivize Mexico to do more.
If they've committed transgressions of whatever kind, they should be obviously deported.
So my producer, Peter, said, you thought the Bill Clinton thing in the 90s was good.
Wait till you hear what Hillary said.
Of course he was.
again?
What year was that?
Do we know what year that was, Sam?
We'll get him to check it out and we'll find out.
I mean of course it doesn't matter because it was disingenuous from the from the jump but just the same that was more staff than what we've heard from Trump since he became president.
So the question is now that's what we need.
That's what we need.
We need that and of course a lot more.
But what do you think we will actually get?
What do you think once it's all said and done?
Once the tale is told, what does this thing look like?
Because sooner or later they're going to have to come to a resolution on we don't have to come to a resolution or anything actually as far as this DACA thing's concerned.
If nothing happens, the case will reach the Supreme Court.
One of these rogue judges is currently trying to maintain the current situation.
They bought the Obama amnesty, unconstitutional amnesty that Obama put in.
One of these rogue judges is trying to sustain that.
He'll reach the Supreme Court.
He'll certainly be rejected.
DACA will expire, but it may be a bit late in the deadline as President Took and the President said.
And that means that the ICE can start deporting these people.
And that's what should happen.
It may take time and but erosion will gradually set in and there's no reason why they can't ultimately all be compelled to go home, which is what should happen.
And we don't allow the children of burglars.
I mean, what the Democrats did here was prolaganda.
They picked out a subset of the illegal population, the ones who come in as children, or at any rate, teenagers or whatever, and said and asked people, should they be deported?
And under those circumstances, if you ask the question the right way, you can get people to say they shouldn't be deported.
But of course, we don't allow burglars to the children of burglars to keep the things, the stolen property that their parents acquired.
So the answer is no, they shouldn't be allowed to stay.
They should go home.
They've already stolen over $10,000 a year in K through 12 education costs and so on.
They should take that and go home.
So my answer is that the ideal solution I think right now is nothing happens.
And the Republicans go into the 2018 election saying that they did the best, but the Democrats are just unreasonable.
And we've got to get some enough Republicans in to impose unilateral patriotic immigration reform.
The danger is that there are lots of very bad Republicans like Lindsey Graham who still want to have a gang of eight type amnesty and they still think they can get it through.
And the danger is that Trump loses control of the process and the Congress passes something like that, which you would then have to veto.
On the whole, I think failure is the more likely option.
But something you never know.
I don't know why he is so he's so sensitive to this question of DREAMers, the DACA recipients.
I simply don't believe these polls that people are sympathetic to them.
But he obviously does think that.
Now, people say it's because this is how and in fact Michael Wolfe in his book, Fire and Fury, say, says spe specifically that Jared and Ivanka think that this is their ticket, passing this thing is their ticket to winning acceptability in Liberal New York.
And if that's so, that's a very bad deal.
But I would guess right now the thing is going to fail.
And you know, yeah, a couple of weeks ago I wrote something in VDAR.com, James, saying that, you know, the thing about Trump is he's he he frequently wavered on immigration qu the immigration question in various ways, but he always comes back.
There's a there's always an outhouse moment.
John Darvis used the term outhouse 'cause he just wants to say the word explicitly.
There's always some point when it blows up and it turns out that his heart is in the right place.
That's all that's happened at least eight or nine times over the last two to two to three years.
And I think it will happen again.
Instinct's in the right place.
We saw that at Charlottesville.
His heart is in the right place.
No, they are.
No, he does have the instincts.
And of course, once again, you're correct.
I mean, the DACA thing, of course, you know how it goes with the media and with the Democrats.
They're always going to try to tug at the heartstrings by showing these poor little children, these two-year-olds, they eternally stay two years old.
They never grow up and they never become white.
They never become what they become.
They're always kids.
That's the presentation.
But they need to go.
They've got to go.
They all have to go.
But that's my solution, of course.
And I know that would be yours too, how realistic that is, that that would ever get selled through Congress.
It remains to be seen.
But what about the wall?
Do you think we will have a wall before Trump's not going to be able to do that?
You know, you can see there are a lot of signs that the Democrats are cracking and their mainstream media handlers are cracking on this question.
And there's discussion.
I mean, I don't know if you saw the New York Times this week had a long article on Tom Edsel saying that, who is a liberal journalist, saying that Trump has the Democrats where he wants them.
And they have to make some concessions to him to get this issue out of the way.
They don't want to go into the 2018 election with this thing hanging.
And a number of people have said, you know, give him the wall, give some type of wall, get it out of the way.
It doesn't matter how expensive it is.
We just want to amnesty in these Dakans, you know.
So I think he's come remarkably close to getting this war, which nobody thought could be done.
We'll see.
But I think we will see some actual physical structure built in the next before 2018.
I'd like for it to be one of those magnificent prototypes we've seen in Arizona, not chain linked fence I've got in my backyard.
But we'll see.
My producer, by the way, got back with me, Peter.
That was 2006.
Hillary Clinton's white nationalist statement was 2006.
Right, right.
As it were.
So, you know, take that for what it was.
But so that was 10 years after Bill Clinton came close to saying the same, and 10 years before Trump said.
The Democrats are scared to death of this issue.
They've always known that if the Republicans were to pick it up and run on it, they would be destroyed.
And that's why they've always been so cautious about it.
I'm not going to interrupt you.
They better, because if they don't, and we've all seen these statistics, these models, that if only non-whites were voting, every state, 50 out of 50, would have gone to Hillary if it was just non-white voting.
And that's what you're looking at.
So if they ever have to go to the vote, James, did you see the map that the blogger Audacious Ethiogone put out the other day that if the franchise was restricted to Generation X whites, I think only two states would have gone for Hillary?
Really?
Yeah, I don't send you the link, but we blogged on it, but actually I tweeted it.
But it's quite remarkable.
I mean, the country is polarizing out on racial lines.
And in the short run, even without patriotic immigration reform, that's very good news to the Republicans, even though they don't deserve to benefit from it.
That is surprisingly good news.
I did a verbal double take just hearing you say that.
I thought it would have been, you would have reached out to me.
Well, wait till you see what would happen if the franchise was restricted to Generation Z white males.
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Right.
I sent you warm greetings from the state of South Carolina.
And I found this song, Ticket to Ride.
It's by this very obscure British group.
They're called Bed Bugs.
No, no, Beatles, I think it is.
But yeah, that's the song, Ticket to Ride.
So do you know the story behind Ticket to Ride?
What are they talking about?
Well, the only reason I know the story is because you shared it with me a couple of days ago.
Well, I'll share it with our audience.
The Beatles were the early days of the Beatles, and they were performing in clubs in Hamburg, Germany.
And Hamburg, Germany, at the time, had legal-wise prostitution, but they had very strict laws, and that the gals had to be certified by the Board of Health.
And if they passed the test, they were given a ticket to ride.
So ride in the, I guess, literal sense.
Well, anyway, you can use your imagination.
You know where we're going with that.
So that's the song for the week.
Let's get quickly to the movie and the book recommendations.
And then we're going to talk about where you are.
We're going to tie that into your weekly theme.
Okay.
My movie recommendation is Roman Polanski's Macbeth.
It's in the 70s.
And this is something that I highly recommend our people do, is to separate the art from the artist.
And the artist, Roman Polanski, is a very seriously flawed individual who did terrible things.
I'm not going to get into the things that he did, but he did produce direct in some tremendous movies like Chinatown.
It's Macbeth.
It's the best Shakespeare movie ever made.
You don't even think you're watching a movie.
You just think you're in the middle of 10th century Scotland with the mud, the curses, the witches.
Perfectly casted.
I highly recommend the movie Macbeth.
My book recommendation is the Chicago Crime Commission's gang book.
It was written, it was done about three or four years ago.
So if you want to know who's who, who's doing what, these 3,500 shootings, 676 murders, but we're trending down.
This lists all the gang that are doing these terrible things.
And it's not white southerners who are Confederates.
There are no murders by that.
So that's the book.
You've got to look a little hard to get this book, but it's the Chicago Crime Commission's gang book.
Okay, so weekly recommendations by Jack Ryan, and he gives them every week, wouldn't you know?
Ticket to Ride by the Beatles is the song movie Roman Polanski's Macbeth, and the book is the God.
I can't read my own writing, and you just said it.
Say it again.
The Chicago Crime Commission's gang book is the book.
There it is.
There it is.
Okay.
Now, you're in South Carolina, and the theme of your appearance this week, as you dictated to me, because Jack calls his own shots.
Now, a lot of other people, we bring them on and we tell them what we'd like for them to talk about.
Jack, it's not the same with Jack.
So, Jack tells me what we're going to cover in his segment, and that's just the way I want it because he's got great instincts, and he's a great addition to the show.
And you're in South Carolina.
You're wintering now.
You left Chicago.
You're down in South Carolina right now.
What's the matter with South Carolina?
Well, I would say a little bit differently, what the hell is the matter with South Carolina?
Because I've lived in some rough liberal places, Chicago, New York City, academic places, New Haven, Connecticut, Yale, Cambridge, and places like that.
So you expect the worst at Berkeley, California or Malibu or the like.
But you think that the state of South Carolina would be a solid southern state.
It was the heart of the Confederacy.
They used to have the Confederate battle flag up there until a year ago, until Trump got elected.
South Carolina did not have a heterosexual southerner in the office of governor of U.S. Senate.
And when Trump got elected, they booted this liberal leftist Indian governor to the United Nations, where she represents the Israeli Likud Party.
But South Carolina's got some serious, she's got some serious problems.
I think it's a toss-up for who's the worst rhino in the United States Congress Senate.
Is it John McCain or Lisping Lindsey Graham?
I got to go with Lindsey Graham.
I mean, this guy.
Well, you know, I said, Jack, not to interrupt, but I said about John McCain, he was back causing trouble again this week.
I said, you know, Satan's got to be licking his chops, waiting for this guy to come on down to hell for all eternity.
But he seems like he, well, I think you responded to that.
I tweeted it out.
You responded.
John McCain seems hell-bent to do as much damage to his country and his race as he can until the last second on earth.
I mean, you got to give it, he's a hardcore, but then, but yeah, but then Lisp and Lindsay, and that's right, because South Carolina is such a beautiful state with such a wonderful, glorious heritage and history.
I love South Carolina.
I have spent time at South Carolina, and I got to tell you, got to watch out in South Carolina because those Carolina girls will turn you any which way but loose.
You can fall in love with South Carolina, believe me.
But anyway, but they produce wonderful people, the indigenous people there.
But you've got Nikki Haley and Tim Scott and Lisp and Lindsay.
Those are the three most prominent before she got sent up to the UN.
But I don't even remember her real name, Nimrata, something.
I don't see how those people rise up in such a glorious state.
Well, I'm doing some research, and this is one thing that I do.
I recommend other people do is to not mouth off on subjects until they've actually lived in the place, researched it.
I've got my own hunches and things like that.
I've only been here three days.
I've been talking to cap drivers with locals.
So I do have some idea of what's going on.
But I want to get the real scoop and what's going and meet some good folks in the process, and I'll report the facts, the true facts, nothing but the facts to our listening audience.
We'll get the scoop, what's going on, and we'll expose all of the cess in the cesspool, so to speak.
Well, let me ask you, Jack, how long are you in the Palmetto State?
Are you there until it gets warm in Chicago?
I've got this place.
I got a deal for almost the whole state of a whole month of February.
So there's a joke I'll share from my family that February and March in Chicago is for people who don't drink to know what a bad hangover is like.
It's bad.
Really, really bad.
Like January, really cold.
It gets old.
Potholes, plastic bags, people don't pick up after their dogs.
You got a couple of nice days.
It's nasty.
It's horrible.
So, yeah, it's not a bad idea to get out of Chicago in February and March.
So I'm going to be here.
Hopefully, play a lot of tennis.
And I want to hear some more southern accents.
I'm probably in a resort place.
I think the problem is it's a lot of people that are from the Midwest and other places.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, and you do have a lot of Yankee.
Now, obviously, you're a good Yankee.
Don't call me that cursed word.
You call me that motor spaker before you call me Yankee.
That's not a very nice thing to say.
That's not a very nice thing.
But you spend a lot of time in Tennessee, so you're honestly a Southerner, basically.
But this is a quick aside.
My pastor, I was over at my pastor's house a couple of days ago, and he shut his finger in the door.
Now, when you shut your finger in the door, you may say something.
I may say something.
Other people may say a choice cuss word.
And I've never heard my pastor curse before, but he did.
And he said, John Brown.
He shut his hand in the door.
That is an old school.
If you're not from the South, that is how every Southerner used to curse back in the day.
You get, you know, John Brown.
You know, that's how you would do it.
I said, Pastor, I hadn't heard that cuss word in a long time.
He had a good laugh about it.
You got to have the clergy on your side in a lot of the places where we don't.
I'm most of the places where the clergy is not heterosexual.
They're pro-Muslim and paters.
And leaf boy, they're, I don't know.
We'd like to have the church on our side, but it's dicey in a lot of places.
Well, and it's certainly not.
I mean, you can find individual pastors and individual small congregations, especially in the rural areas that are solid.
But at denominational HQ, forget about it.
But now, if you don't know what I'm talking about, if you're not a southerner, you may not have registered what, you know, you may not remember who John Brown was.
Well, no, I'm not talking to you.
I know you do, Jack, but I was talking to the audience at large.
If you don't know, look it up, John Brown.
Robert E. Lee dealt with him.
Robert E. Lee got that taken care of, no problem.
But anyway, if you want to listen, that was a complete departure.
You want to hear some good, because you do have a lot of transplants in South Carolina, getting back to where we were.
Got to head down to the Charleston area.
Now, Charleston has the transplants too, but just get a few minutes outside of Charleston.
Go to Ravenel.
Go to some of these little communities.
It is just a beautiful people down there.
I mean, aesthetically, but you've got to go down to Charleston because Charleston is Charleston.
You got Fort Sumter.
You should tour Fort Sumter.
You can go see the Hundley.
The Confederate submarine HL Hundley is there.
We talk about that every Confederate History Month.
You can go and check that out.
I believe it should still be on display.
Sometimes it's a seasonal thing, but Charleston is just a beautiful place and beautiful Confederate.
Everyone's confident.
All of South Carolina.
But so was Constantinople, but we lost that.
So just because you got a beautiful place doesn't mean it's always going to be your shirt.
Well, I tell you what.
I tell you what.
I got an idea.
One of our listeners just sent in a comment.
The problem with South Carolina is open primaries, Touche.
But I tell you, you're going to be there, obviously, for the remainder of the month, it appears.
So it's your call, of course, Jack, but we can make this maybe a continuing, evolving segment for the next couple of weeks.
So we'll see what you have for us next week.
But perhaps Jack can explore a little bit more of the low country and check it out.
And maybe he can find where that flag they took down in Columbia is and get it put back up.
Jack, we want to see the Confederate flag back up at the state capitol before next week.