April 23, 2016 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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We were so busy that first hour, I didn't even have time to tell you what day it is.
But it is, in fact, Saturday, April the 23rd, as we continue to celebrate Confederate History Month, the only broadcast in the world that for 11 years has dedicated a portion of each show during the month of April to the celebration and preservation of Confederate history and ideals.
And to help us continue to do that this evening, it is my very big pleasure to welcome back Michael Gaddy, who is a political activist, writer, and teacher who defends and teaches the Constitution as ratified, meaning he's an originalist, our Bill of Rights and the tenets of our Declaration of Independence.
He is constantly trying to understand why the great majority of people in this country are content being slaves to an unconstitutional criminal government, a government that is systematically destroying the intent of the founding fathers of this country and the culture that brought us liberty and individual freedom.
He blogs at rebelmadman.com.
Mike, welcome back to the show, old friend.
Thanks, James.
Great to be with you again.
Well, it's great to have you back.
And for the benefit of those who have not tuned in, or rather are new listeners, and by new, I mean since 2006, Mike was really one of our first claims to fame.
You'll remember the Minuteman Project, ladies and gentlemen, which kicked off in April of 2005.
11 years ago, we had this man who is on the radio with us tonight, along with Joe McCutcheon, one of our all-time favorite guests and greatest guests.
They were calling in live from the Arizona border every night.
This was back when we were on Monday through Friday during April of 2005 and giving us eyewitness accountings of what was going on during the Minuteman Project as they attempted to monitor our poorest borders.
And I believe the Political Cesspool may have been the first radio program in the country to cover that.
And we were able to cover it before it became huge national news and a sensation.
Thanks to Mike and Joe McCutcheon.
And Mike, I want to thank you again for that.
It's great to still be with you more than a decade later.
Well, James, it was my distinct pleasure to talk with you, gentlemen, on a daily basis and keep you apprised of what was going on down in southern Arizona.
Well, it was, and we will finally remember that.
I tell you, I will, for as long as I'm around here.
But that's not our subject for discussion tonight.
The subject for discussion tonight, ladies and gentlemen, will be the true reasons for our second war of independence, the crimes that Abraham Lincoln committed during that unconstitutional war, and how it all pertains to the tyranny and oppression being practiced by our government today.
Again, this is a continuation of our observance of Confederate History Month on this broadcast.
But before we get to that, and I have Keith Alexander in the wings, Mike, after our first commercial break here, we're going to spend the rest of the hour talking about what I just laid out there.
But first, I want you to break down in 60 seconds or less the theme for your incredible article, which we reposted at thepoliticalcesspool.org a couple of days ago.
It's entitled, It's Not Your Flag.
What was the message you were trying to convey to the audience there, Mike?
Well, James, it's having two relatives that I can confirm that were with the 26th North Carolina.
And especially I concentrated on the first and third day battle at Gettysburg and the fact that the 26th North Carolina drove the Iron Brigade from the field into the streets of Gettysburg, where the Iron Brigade was either hiding in basements or attempting to surrender to each other.
And the great sacrifice, the 14 different flag bearers carrying that sacred Confederate battle flag who fell under fire on that first day and the eight who fell on the third day.
And that flag is sacred.
And it's sacred to me.
It's sacred to my family.
It's sacred to my heritage.
And what I was basically telling is the politically correct and the cultural Marxist, this is not your flag.
So leave it to hell alone.
Well, I want everybody to go and read that article.
In fact, I'm going to read an excerpt from it right now.
And Mike, we're having a little bit of problem with our connection.
It sounds like, I guess you would say it sounds like there's a bullfrog.
Maybe that's what it sounds like when they're hacking into your relay or something like this.
It sounds like we got termites on the line or something.
It's just a problem with the connection.
Well, we'll try to correct that during the commercial break.
And so if you'll just sit tight with us, we want to get that corrected because you're such a primary focal point for this hour.
We'll work on that in the commercial break.
But before we go to break, I just want to read what I thought was the most profound passage in this piece.
It's not your flag.
This is what you write, Mike.
Little do these extraordinarily brave and courageous men know that 150 years later, worthless pieces of humanity who do nothing but breathe up good oxygen and lack the courage one of these brave men had in the tip of his finger would refer to them and those of their posterity who honor such courage, devotion, and commitment as racists.
Those who have fallen mentally ill and cowardly while observing the deadly virus of political correctness, white guilt, and cultural Marxism are unworthy of being mentioned in the same breath as any of these heroes.
Their letters home spoke of defending their country from the Yankee invader and defending freedom and liberty.
They gave the ultimate sacrifice on the field of honor.
Mike's piece continues.
The overwhelming majority of these young men owned no slaves, and their absence placed terrible burdens on their families.
Theirs was a battle for home, family, and fireside, and the right of the consent of the governed, as was stated in our Declaration of Independence.
When the Standards Committee of the Confederate Congress decided on the design of the cross of St. Andrew for the Confederate battle flag, the following explanation was sent to Samuel Barrett of Georgia.
Quote, the flag should be a token of humble acknowledgement of God and be a public testimony to the world that our trust is in the Lord our God.
Now, Mike concludes, if you are a coward, an advocate of political correctness, a cultural Marxist, a person who lacks commitment to the moral standards or simply a member of the institutionalized ignorant segment of the American society, the Confederate battle flag, the Southern Cross, is not your flag.
Those who hate this flag and seek to ban it do so because in their hearts and minds, they know they will never, ever be equal to those who fought and died for it.
Mike, I get chills just reading that, and I loved it when I read it, and we reposted it, and we got a great response to it.
And I thank you for writing that, and I can't wait for the remainder of this hour when you and Keith get to the main event and talk about the wars, or the real reasons for the war.
But I'd like to ask you this.
You know, you see all of this stuff, and now you even see the Southern Baptist Convention this week coming out with yet another resolution condemning the Confederate flag.
What do you make when you see the sons of Confederates totally dishonor their father and mothers in this capacity?
Well, it's again, I use my phrase institutionalized ignorance, James.
These people don't have a clue what they're doing.
Our great public school system and advanced education in this country has made blithering idiots of most of these people.
They don't have a clue what it is.
They're standing up because other people are standing up and they lack the courage to stand for what is true and what is historically correct.
And you put also in your piece, and I think I've mentioned this in the first hour, these people have no courage or integrity, and because they lack it, they abhor those who do.
And I think that is an absolute correct diagnosis.
Anyway, when we come back, we're going to work on this connection problem, and we're going to feature Mike Gaddy for the remainder of the hour.
Stay tuned, folks.
I think what you're going to hear over the course of the next 45 minutes will be among the best of our presentations this month with regards to Confederate history and heritage.
And you just may learn something.
So stay tuned for that.
It'll be certainly a novelty for those of you who have gone to school in the last 50 years.
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With our intrepid team of production assistants and our engineer, we believe we have rectified our connection problem with our featured guest of the night, Mike Gaddy.
So without further ado, again, the subject for discussion this evening with Mike will be the true reasons for our second war for independence, the crimes of Abraham Lincoln during that unconstitutional war, and how it all pertains to the tyranny and oppression practiced by our government today.
So how this is going to work, Mike, for the remainder of this hour, you take all the time you need.
Keith Alexander will be here to compliment you and y'all will have a back and forth.
But go ahead and say your case and let it rip.
All right.
Thanks again, James.
To me, it's absolutely incredulous that an educated, sane people can believe that our Second War for Independence, the war between the states, the war for Southern independence was fought over slavery.
Because there are so many facts that are irrefutable.
And number one is the fact that during his first inaugural address, Abraham Lincoln said he would not interfere with slavery where it existed because he had no constitutional right to do so.
One of the few truths he ever said in his life.
The other point was that he also endorsed the Corwin Amendment, or which would have been our 13th Amendment at the time.
This 13th Amendment to the Constitution or the Corwin Amendment would have made slavery legal in perpetuity and outside the reach of Congress.
No amendment could have been offered that would have made slavery illegal if that amendment had been passed.
If the South was fighting for slavery, James, all they had to do was to come back into the Union and ratify the Corwin Amendment.
If the South was seceding because of slavery, it's really simple.
That's all they had to do.
And it proves that they wouldn't accept that Corwin Amendment, that the war was not about slavery.
And Michael, this is Keith Alexander.
Yes, sir.
Let me chime in a little bit about the Corwin Amendment.
This was the first proposed 13th Amendment to the Constitution.
It was supported by Lincoln.
He sent a handwritten note to the governors of every state in the Union urging its ratification.
It was actually passed in the U.S. House of Representatives, then passed in the U.S. Senate, and it was in the process of being sent to the various state legislatures for ratification.
If two-thirds had ratified it, then it would have become the law of the land.
It would have been the 13th Amendment rather than abolishing slavery.
What the Corwin Amendment said was that slavery would remain forever legal and inviolate in all states and territories in the United States where it was then legal and inviolate.
So consequently, we would have had permanent slavery.
Lincoln was not the great emancipator.
He had views on the black race that would have embarrassed a Klansman of the 1960s and 50s in America.
He wanted a large nation, populous, very populous, and very wealthy, that could project power on the world stage.
He was the first of those politicians.
And of course, we've had numerous other ones since him.
But the Corwin Amendment, the thing is, nobody in Antebellum America was that fond of black people that they were willing to sacrifice their sons, their husbands, and their fathers in a crusade to free them.
That is pure hogwash.
You cannot project modern moral standards or ethical fashions upon historical people without doing great violence to the truth.
Well, very well said.
And also, three states had already ratified that Corwin Amendment before Lincoln was inaugurated.
So it was well on its way to being the law.
And if the southern states had stayed in, if the southern states had stayed in the union and ratified it, they and those, you know, it would obviously have passed into law and become the actual 13th Amendment.
The fact that the South proceeded to secede even when they had a Corwin Amendment shows you that there were considerations far beyond slavery that were actually motivating the South to secede.
Continue on, Mike.
Yes.
Yeah, go right ahead.
Go right ahead.
Back to you.
Oh, it's what, you know, it's so well stated, Keith, and for people to ignore that just absolutely embellishes the ignorance that is taught in our schools and we see on the streets and we see from the Southern Baptist Association,
we see from NASCAR, we see from Harley-Davidson, we see from all of these people who are saying, we don't want any symbols of this in our schools, and we don't want any symbols of this to be seen in our state houses.
We don't want any symbols to be seen anywhere.
And it's my contention and has been for quite some time, the basic attack on the St. Andrew's Cross is in religious significance.
It was a religious flag.
And I really believe that is the basis of their attack.
But then, you know, we look at what was really happening is when the first seven states seceded, those first seven states had seceded and with them, because of the protectionist tariffs, with them when they left the union, they took somewhere between, depending on the source you want to read, they took between 75 to 95% of the revenue for the entire country with them.
Exactly.
That's the other big cause of the, you know, the two most salient points to refute a customary thinking American today that tells you that slavery was a cause of the Civil War.
The first, you correctly identified immediately, was the Corwin Amendment.
The second would be the Morrell tariff.
Tariffs, before, people don't understand this, but let me just point this out.
And I'm sure you're very well aware of this, but I am doing this for the sake of the audience.
Before the Civil War, there was no income tax.
In fact, they had to have the 16th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution in 1913 in order to change the Constitution, which prohibited income taxes.
How was the federal government funded before then?
You had a temporary income tax during the Civil War that was rescinded right after the Civil War ended.
But an income tax, which is the primary source of funds for the federal government today, was unconstitutional in the original Constitution.
So how did they finance the federal government?
They financed it through various excise taxes, like the tax on the manufacture of alcoholic beverages, whiskey.
That's the cause of the famous whiskey rebellion back in the 1790s when the federal government decided to tax the production of whiskey and other alcoholic beverages.
Then the other and by far the most significant source of income was tariffs on foreign manufactured goods.
And again, the South bore the brunt of that because we had to buy manufactured goods from Europe in order to get the Europeans to induce them to buy our agricultural products.
Now, the North didn't do that.
They had a manufacturing economy, so they wanted a tariff to protect their manufacturing and whatnot.
And the South, one, they were paying, like you said, 85 to 90% of the income that was running the federal government.
But on the other hand, when the Whigs got in power, they used the money of the federal government to finance what were called internal improvements, which tended to be transportation systems like the Pennsylvania Turnpike, the Erie Canal, and increasingly railroads.
Well, all of these improvements were located outside the South.
On the eve of the Civil War, there was only one major interior railroad in the South.
That was the Memphis to Charleston Railroad built entirely by private funds.
All of these northern railroads, like the Grand Trunk, the Reading Railroad, the Baltimore and Ohio Railroad, were financed with large assists from the federal government, and the South felt that its cow was being milked through the fence.
Yeah, when we come back, when we come back, when we come back, much more with Mike.
Mike, if you could put a pause on what Keith's last comment was, and then we're going to let you take it and run with it until you run out of steam, and then we'll let Keith jump back in on the conversation.
But it looks to me like rather than slavery, which is the popular myth, like all wars, it had a lot more to do about money than anything else.
Before the South, they were fighting for freedom and resistance to tyranny, but the North didn't want to let that revenue stream go.
We'll find out if I'm right about that.
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You know, talking about the tyrant to the sociopath that was Abraham Lincoln, please check out the booklet Shattering the Icon of Abraham Lincoln, which was written by our friend Sam Dixon.
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And I can tell you, it's not what you're taught.
In fact, Mike, that leads me to a quote by General Patrick Claiborne of the Confederate States of America.
Surrender means that history of this heroic struggle will be written by the enemy, that our youth will be trained by northern school teachers.
We will learn from northern school books their version of the war.
We will be impressed by all the influences of history and education to regard our gallant dead as traitors and our maimed veterans as subjects fit for derision.
Derision.
Of course, there's no truer words that have ever been spoken, and that's what we're having you on tonight for, Mike, to set the record straight.
So please continue without interruption.
The true causes for the war and the crimes of Abraham Lincoln during that period.
Go, Mike.
Thanks, James.
I think it's important to note, dealing with the financial issue, is that when the Virginia Peace Commission went to visit with Abraham Lincoln to try to stop this war, and they basically said, let us go in peace.
There doesn't need to be bloodletting here.
Just let us go in peace.
I think Lincoln's answer was most illustrative when he said, but what will happen to my tariff?
And the military plan was to also blockade, which was called the Anaconda Plan, which was devised by Henry Halleck, which was designed to close down every southern port.
Well, the reason they wanted to close down every southern port is because in the Confederate Constitution, they had done away with protective tariffs.
So the tariff to bring goods into Charleston, into Pensacola, into Virginia, into New Orleans, into any southern port, the tariff was going to be 10%.
To bring the same goods into Boston, Rhode Island, New York, any of those areas was in the 50% range.
So the North knew that the shipping industries, even their own shipping industries, were leaving their ports and coming to southern ports.
That is why Abraham Lincoln had to get the war going as quickly as possible.
And so he tricked basically why they were supposed to be dealing with the Confederate Peace Committee, and they had promised the Peace Committee they would not reinforce Fort Sumter.
Lincoln went ahead and did it anyway, and he knew in advance this would cause war.
So war was what he was after.
But the other point that we have to make, and I think it's extremely critical, is the war.
Michael, this is Keith Alexander.
Just a second.
Let me just say this on the tariff.
The Morrell tariff, I think, was one of the big causes of the war in practical terms.
It raised the tariff rate from 22% to about 47%.
This was done in the first year of Lincoln's administration or in the first few months.
And basically, Southerners said, this guy, Lincoln, is just as bad as we feared he would be.
We need to get out of this, you know, unholy matrimony we've got with the North.
Well, actually, the Morrill Tariff was passed a couple of days before Lincoln took office.
But it still existed.
It was still there.
And this was putting a huge, this was just going to destroy the North.
Their industry was going to go.
They were already experiencing problems.
They were already laying people off in the North.
People were without jobs.
So that was an economic reason.
But I think one of the most critical things we need to look at is the war was being fought to destroy the tenets of the Declaration of Independence.
Consent of the governed.
And one of the primary points that I, you know, that I think of so often was the abolitionist, Lysander Spooner, said that the principles of that war, and he was a northerner, but he hated Lincoln, and he said the principles of the war between the states was to force men, and I'm paraphrasing, was to force men to accept a government they did not want.
And he says, if we continue to do this, what we will do is we will change the South from chattel slavery to political slavery.
And that's exactly what happened, and that's exactly what we are today.
And I think it's important that we also look and understand that many of the influences of Abraham Lincoln started in 1846 when he met Horace Greeley when they were both one-term members of Congress.
And Greeley was an avowed socialist.
And his paper, the New York Tribune, was the largest paper in existence at the time.
And they sent out all kind of socialist propaganda.
And one of their leading editorialists was none other than Karl Marx.
Karl Marx wrote numbers and numbers of articles defending socialism.
Lincoln, as a Illinois congressman, had defended socialism, talking against capitalists and talking for labor, which is the mantra of the Socialist Party.
So also we have to understand that many of the people who revolted in Europe under the socialist oppression, the socialist what have you, they actually ran out of Europe to get away after they were defeated.
And a great number of them came to the U.S.
And what is amazing is how many of those avowed socialists ended up being members either of the Lincoln's military or of his political party, which was the Republican Party.
So we have a whole number of people who were not even citizens of the United States who received, who actually achieved the rank of general in the Union Army.
There were several.
I know that if you consider just generals alone, there were seven or eight that were socialists from Europe who were commanders in the Union Army.
You also had quite a few sprinkled through who were also in the high ranks of colonel and what have you.
Now, Michael, this is Keith Alexander again.
Were these people that were displaced by the revolutions of 1848, or was this from some other source that these refugees came to America?
1848.
They were called the 48ers, and they came, and one of them in particular was the editor at the New York Tribune, and his name was Charles S. Dana, D-A-N-A.
Well, Lincoln liked this socialist so much, he brought him in as one of his primary assistants in the Department of War.
So we had a socialist who had written in France and had written in England and had written in several other countries in Europe about the advantages of socialism.
He was one of the highest-ranking members of Lincoln's Army.
So, and also at the same time, it has to be brought into effect that up until the 13th Amendment, Ulysses S. Grant owned slaves.
His wife's family.
I thought he owned them until the end of the war.
Well, until the 13th Amendment, which was December of 1860.
Right.
One thing that I think a lot of people don't understand based on the propagandized history that is being taught in schools in America today is, and you can either confirm or modify this, my understanding was that the South was the most prosperous part of the nation.
And after the Civil War, until this very day, we've been the least prosperous region.
Is that correct?
Well, that would be true because Reconstruction basically choked the South to death.
They sent in the carpetbaggers.
They made, well, a great example is the state of South Carolina.
In 1865, the state debt in South Carolina, even after the war, was $5 million.
By 1872, the debt for South Carolina was $39 million.
So that was the Reconstruction.
That was what they were putting on.
They were having these people who had come in as carpetbaggers and or the blacks who had been elected to office because your traditional Southerners could not own property or hold office.
Well, you know, one of the things that happened was it caused refugee crisis in the South.
Southerners left.
In fact, a lot of them were the pioneers in the West.
A lot of people wonder why the Interior West is part of Red State America along with the South.
Well, the reason is it was populated by expatriate Southerners who were trying to escape the lash of Reconstruction.
Somebody has described the West as being the South without a race problem.
That's why in all the old movies, the Cowboys talked with Southern accents, or at least that's what I've heard.
Well, it's certainly true.
They moved into New Mexico, Arizona, Colorado, and Oklahoma in large numbers because at least there they had some semblance of individual rights, which had been taken from them by the Reconstruction Act of 1867.
So, yes, it was a Catastrophic heart race and structure.
And we're still suffering from it today in some ways.
When we come back, ladies and gentlemen, it's going by far too quickly.
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This hour has gone by so fast, and it always does when you're dealing with heavy issues and time flies when you're having fun.
There's that too.
But when you're talking about something that's so rich, and there's just such a mine there for you to get into, it's just there's never enough time, and there's not enough time tonight for this topic with Mike Gaddy, and we have about 10 minutes remaining, so we're going to have to use it as judiciously as possible.
Of course, you can't cover the cause, the true cause of the war in that time, nor can you document all of the crimes that Lincoln committed.
And we haven't even touched on that, really.
But I would like to ask Mike this, then let him continue on in any direction he'd like.
Mike, we've heard and read, and you can verify if this is true or not.
Of course, it never came to pass.
But was there an offer on the table that if the South would do away with the notion of secession, that Lincoln would put forth legislation that would make slavery permanent in the South and even go so far as to use Union forces to help them track down runaway slaves?
And the only reason I ask that, because if that is true, that certainly would seem to undermine the argument that the whole war was fought over slavery.
Do you know anything about that, Mike?
Well, James, all of the points which you so succinctly made were listed in Lincoln's first inaugural address.
You had the Court Amendment, which guaranteed slavery, so all the South had to do if they wanted to keep their slaves in perpetuity was to stay in the Union or disavow their secession documents and come back in.
You had, he also praised during his first inaugural address the fugitive slave laws and said that they should be enforced for several states, which were actually practicing nullification or states' rights.
Several northern states had said, we will not return slaves.
And Lincoln said, yes, you will.
And then you look at, I think it's very, very demonstrative that in Missouri, where John C. Fremont, who had run for president on the Republican ticket in 1856, He was in Missouri, and he started freeing slaves, and Lincoln stopped him and fired him.
So what was— You don't read anything about this in the history books, do you?
Now it's all about the South was just a bunch of black hating racists who wanted to keep them in chain.
Because we enjoyed doing it.
We just shit out of person.
And furthermore, white Southerners were the only people in the history of the world that came up with this diabolical invention, this institution called slavery.
Yeah, it never existed before or after the 1860s.
And so, and this is the narrative.
And people are ill-equipped to refute it because people are just so irredeemably stupid.
And that's just putting it gently.
Miseducated.
Well, you could get miseducated, but there's still the truth out there because we all found it.
But anyway, continue, please, Mike.
Well, one of the things I think people should really look at is get yourself a copy of the Confederate Constitution.
And think if we, and it was basically our original Constitution, the Constitution of Patrick Henry, James, James Madison, and Thomas Jefferson.
It was basically their Constitution, except they, through history, they had seen some things that troubled them.
So the Confederate Constitution had no protective tariffs.
The Confederate government could grant no subsidies.
Imagine that.
Or they could not finance internal improvements with taxes.
So think what we would have if that would have been there.
The Confederate Congress had to pass all appropriations by a two-thirds vote, not a simple majority.
What if we had that today?
We wouldn't have Obamacare.
Michael, let me ask you this, since we're kind of running out of time.
Talk, if you would, about the war crimes instituted under the Lincoln administration against the South as compared to the South's conduct of the war, particularly when they were in Northern Territory.
Great question.
That is so incredible.
There are books written, and it's in the National Archives of the war crimes that were committed.
The war crimes that were committed by the Union forces in the South were just absolutely the rape of Athens, Tennessee, Athens, Alabama, I'm sorry, brings about part of that.
And the leader of the Union Army in Athens, Alabama, was a Russian citizen.
And they changed his name so that it would be acceptable.
But he wasn't even a U.S. citizen.
And the atrocities that were committed, and if you look at what was done by William Tecumseh Sherman, who had been in a mental institution, and you look at the crimes that he did, he burned Meridian, Mississippi to the ground.
There were no Confederate forces there when he did that.
He burned Atlanta.
There were few, if any, Confederate forces there when he did that.
He burned Columbia, same thing.
He burned these cities one after another.
And you can go to the National Archives and look at the rapes that took place, the thefts that took place.
They would throw pigs up in the air and catch them on their bayonets just to deny these people a food source.
Michael, let me just say this.
It's a little bit closer to home here, but in the state of Mississippi alone, 43 towns and cities were burned to the ground by federal troops, including 12 county seats.
The Confederacy, by contrast, only burned down one Union town in the entire war.
I think it was Chambersburg, either Maryland or Pennsylvania.
And that was done to protest Sherman's march to the South.
We fought an honorable war.
That was much later.
You had Robert E. Lee, when they first crossed and went into, across the Potomac and went into Maryland.
Robert E. Lee sent out letters to his men telling his men, do not, do not commit the atrocities that have been committed on Southern citizens because we're above that.
We are better than that.
If you take anything from a northerner, pay them with whatever money you have.
And there are several humorous stories that came from that.
Well, you had the Barbara Fritchie story.
Remember that with the, you know, shoot if you may, this old gray head, but dishonor not your nation's flag.
Well, imagine what would have happened to a southern Barbara Fritchie if she'd waved the Confederate flag in front of William T. Sherman.
Right.
And you can look at the atrocities in Sherman's March to the sea.
It was just absolutely atrocious, the things that were done.
And I'm sorry, Sherman said to his wife that this is a war that shouldn't just be fought against the South.
It should be fought against their people.
Their people should be exterminated.
And it's kind of strange that after the war against the South, he turned that same philosophy loose against the American Indian.
Well, and not only that, Mike, you still see it.
You still see it today.
Look at what a unconditional surrender.
Look at what the United States did to Dresden, Germany.
I mean, the precedent was set then, and it still has stuck in this really godless nation.
I mean, we really do live in a post-Christian, a horrible, horrible country.
Oh, without a doubt.
Without a doubt.
I can't confirm that enough, guys.
It's that mindset of American exceptionalism was established by Abraham Lincoln, William Tecumseh Sherman, and Ulysses Simpson Grant, which is really not his name.
His name was Hiro Ulysses.
But this was advocated by them.
Look at what Kirkpatrick, no, I'm sorry, look at what the cavalry leaders did during the Shenandoah Valley.
They just went from one end of the valley to the other, burning everything they came to.
That was Sheridan, wasn't it?
Yes, Sheridan.
I'm sorry.
Thank you, Keith.
Go into the and look at the entire civilian casualties.
in the city of Gettysburg with all of that battle taking place and the civilian casualties was one, Virginia Wade.
And no one knows the bullet came through a wall and hit her as she was making bread.
So no one knows exactly who fired that shot.
So one civilian casualty, place that against what was done to the South.
It was barbaric.
Well, and you know, we've talked so much about the gallantry and the valor and the integrity and the honor of the southern soldier.
We've done that in previous broadcasts.
I feel as though we are just scratching the surface.
I guess Rio DeRosher was right when he said, nice guys finish last, Michael.
I feel as though we're just scratching the surface of this very in-depth topic, causes of the war, the atrocities that Lincoln committed.
And yet these villains are casted as the righteous and the heroes are casted as the villains.
I mean, truly, we're living in the biblical.
Woe unto those who call good evil and evil good.
Absolutely.
Well, Mike, I would like to ask you this.
I think we have certainly done enough so far to whet the audience's appetite and to at least plant a seed of historical accuracy and honesty that will perhaps encourage them to read more and do their own research about this.
And I'll tell you, Mike, I would like to have you back on in very short order.
I'll be out of town next week.
I mean, we'll still have a show, but I'd like to have you back on perhaps the following week after that when I'll be back in the studio.
And we can perhaps follow this up, even though we won't technically still be in Confederate History Month anymore.
We'll talk to you off the air about that, but I just don't feel like we gave you enough time tonight or had enough time to give you.
But what would be some resources that people could go find that would help reinforce some of the positions and, again, historical accuracies that you've brought to the audience's attention this evening?
What would be some books you would recommend?
At the risk of sounding egotistical, I would like folks, first of all, to go to my website, which is www.rebelmadman.com, and go scroll down my articles and read.
There are a series.
There is a series that has four articles in it, and it's called Lying to Our Children and Ourselves.
And it's one, two, three, and four.
Read that.
I think you will get a good working background of what occurred during the war for southern independence.
And then I would like people to read, there's a book that was written in 1867 by William, by Henry Clay Dean, and it was called The Crimes of the Civil War and the Curse of the Funding System.
This is when our entire economy, because of the Civil War, was turned over to the international bankers.
You can go to that through another.
RebelMadman.com.
RebelMadman.com is the website.
And Mike, this hour has just blown by.
But listen, I'm going to get in touch with you by email after the show.
Let's have you back on here within the next couple of weeks and continue this riveting discussion.
It doesn't have to be April to talk about historical truth.