March 7, 2015 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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What a blockbuster we've got.
Heavyweight all-stars Sam Dixon, Richard Spencer, and Jared Taylor all on deck, and we're going to get to the first of that triple threat this very minute.
Sam Dixon, my very good friend, a man whose counsel I've come to rely on for many, many years.
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I'm very excited.
I was outside having a snowball fight with my daughter.
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And I felt the phone vibrate in my pocket.
And if there's one guy who can cause me to pause from a snowball fight, it's Sam Dixon.
And Sam had called and said he had something he wanted to talk about on the show tonight.
And of course, we juggled the schedule to work him in because it is an important topic.
As you all know, I should say, first of all, Sam is an attorney and a renowned orator.
And every time he comes on the political cesspool, it is an event.
And with that being said, let me first welcome my good friend back to the show, Sam.
I guess this is the first time our audience has heard you since you spoke at our 10-year anniversary party back in October.
It's great to have you.
The first time I've ever called you and importuned an invitation.
Well, and for good reason.
I wanted to talk about Ferguson.
I think this is a very important subject that you and I and Jared and Richard and all of our listening audience and white Americans in general need to think about.
And we need to look at these two reports by the Justice Department and the reaction of the Justice Department and law enforcement, as well as the media to these two reports, because it provides a rare opportunity for white Americans to understand just how our government views us.
Contempt is not the right word.
Of course, they view us with active hatred.
And we see this now.
And as you and most people in the audience will know, there are two reports that came out.
One was a report on the specific incident itself and the police officer, Darren Wilson.
And despite being conducted by Eric Holder and the U.S. Just Us Department, which you had every reason, every bias against Oscar Wilson, they could find nothing on him.
And their investigation proved that the people who claimed they had seen him shoot Michael Brown in cold blood had lied.
They caught them with previous statements they'd given to the police before this became a cause of the black community, in which they confirmed what Darren Wilson said.
Later, they changed that story to come up with hands-up, don't shoot reports that were duplicated nationwide from coast to coast in demonstrations and by football celebrities and so on.
Some of these, at least one of them, admitted to the investigators that she had lied.
And she said she lied because the community wanted it.
So her commitment to her community, the black community, transcended telling the truth, about a sense.
And the other report came out with a scathing indictment of the police department itself, which was accused of systematic racism, white racism, based upon the fact that more blacks are arrested than whites, which everyone listening to this broadcast will know is not evidence of bias at all.
Blacks simply have a different culture.
They drive more dangerously, just as Hispanics do.
Anyone who's been in Mexico City or Taracos, Venezuela, and tried to drive a car knows that's true.
But the agenda of the government is white hating.
It's not the truth.
It's white dating, white hating, stirring up niche mobs against whites.
And when the government couldn't come up with anything against Darren Wilson, it concocted this report about the systemic racism permeating the Ferguson Police Department.
And this is the report that has now swept the nation.
I was watching CNN and I saw Anderson Cooper's treatment of it.
He had a panel of three angry black people and one mealy-mouthed white.
And they just immediately swept the report on Wilson to one side, said that we don't really know the facts on that.
And so we're not going to deal with that.
And they focused, as has Eric Holder, the U.S. Attorney General, on the other report.
And Holder has explained that we need to find out why what he calls the alternative version of events, which is the lies the blacks have told.
He won't call his fellow black racists liars who lied to the police.
They have an alternative version to the truth.
And this way he can avoid saying what they are.
But this is what we need to look at.
Not the fact you had large numbers of blacks lying and coalescing to try to get an innocent white police officer.
That's not the group we need to get.
We need to go back to white dating.
And I wanted to remind people, and then listening also to the audience as a lawyer, that lying to police officers, lying to the FBI, lying to the Justice Department, this is a crime.
Most people will remember Martha Stewart.
Martha Stewart lied about getting an email stock tip from her boyfriend's stockbroker.
And Martha Stewart was indicted and she was tried and she was convicted and she went to jail on a first offense that did no harm to the investigation, no harm to anyone in America, because she was a white, well, she was a white Polish Catholic.
But these people in Ferguson, no one's talking about indicting any of them.
And what they did caused, among other things, millions of dollars of property being burned to the ground in Ferguson.
Months of confrontation between police officers and violent mobs in Ferguson.
Upheavals and exacerbated race relations from coast to coast, and even in New York City, the death of two white police officers.
But they're not going to be indicted.
And that's an example for everyone listening and for every white American to understand how much this American government, the regime, its Federal Bureau of Investigation, its Justice Department, and its courts hate white people.
And exonerate black people from the normal consequences of their criminal activity, like perjury.
Absolutely, Keith.
Imagine a hypothetical situation that instead of these people lying about a black cop, a white cop, think it was a bunch of people like you and me.
And we all got together, 30 or 40 of us, and we concocted an alternative version of events.
Only Eric Holder and the media would not be calling it, as the New York Times did, the alternative version.
They'd call it a white racist conspiracy to spread lies to railroad a black police officer into jail.
And you know what?
They'd be right.
But what would happen?
Let's take a break.
What change is what would change is we would be indicted and we would go to jail.
Got to take a break right there, Sam.
Got to pause right there.
We're going to come back.
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All right, everybody.
We are about to have two lions fighting over the same piece of meat, playing with the same piece of meat.
Very good, Keith.
We've got Keith Alexander and Sam Dixon on.
And let me tell you, we have two national treasures there.
And they are going to match with, they are both attorneys by trade and two of the most genius minds that I have ever encountered.
And I mean that very earnestly and very sincerely.
And Keith, I know you were listening as our entire audience was as Sam broke down the case.
Obviously, Ferguson is back in the news this week.
And we're breaking that down right now and we'll continue to do so.
I'd like for you to first, Keith, respond to what you heard Sam say, your thoughts about that, and then continue the interview with a question of your own for our very esteemed guest.
Well, of course, Sam was absolutely right.
When you hit the nail on the head, you drive it straight.
These instigators, these people that lied to the police and the authorities about what happened, would undoubtedly be prosecuted to the max by Eric Holder's Justice Department, and rightfully so, if they had been white rather than black and had tried to lie on behalf of Darren Wilson, the police officer who was the target of this investigation.
And as scary as that is, that basically people get a pass on lying to the police, causing millions of dollars worth of property damage, dominating headlines with a false narrative.
The thing that's even scarier to me, Sam, is what if you or I or James or Richard or Jared or any of us were in Darren Wilson's shoes?
Suppose a black burglar broke into our house, pulled a gun on us, threatened us, and we shot and killed him.
What type of justice do you think we could expect in today's America?
Well, I think the rhetorical question answers itself.
You know, they talk about racial profiling, and that was a great part of the attack on the police department.
They have racially profiled blacks because they have arrested more of them than white people.
People are racially profiled in America.
And that's why Martha Stewart served time because she denied getting an email.
Whereas the liars who still may yet kill Darren Wilson, he is at risk for the rest of his life.
And they did successfully create such a frenzied atmosphere that two white cops in New York City were killed because of their lies.
The fact that Martha Stewart serves time, and there is not the faintest suggestion that these liars who conspired together to lie to law enforcement and to try to railroad an innocent man who did this amount of damage to their community,
to the country at large, that the government isn't even thinking about indicting one of them tells you, in a shocking way, I think even many of us, I don't think you don't understand, the level of hatred that this government, this regime in America, has for the founding stock of the nation.
Well, think about this, Sam.
What about measuring the differential racial response of our government to lies by blacks who make up out of whole cloth a totally fictitious narrative for the purpose of railroading some guy to the death chamber, I guess, on one hand, Darren Wilson, and what happened to Martha Stewart?
Just think about, you know, Martin Luther King's famous comment that's always mowed by mainstream conservatives that he wanted people to be judged by the content of their character rather than the color of their skin.
If I hear that phrase one more time related to race relations in America in the 21st century, I think I'm going to puke.
You know, it's just, it's so absolutely absurd that, you know, that's the last thing in the world that people like Eric Holder and Barack Obama want, or quite frankly, the people that run our media.
What they want is a situation where we are pilloried.
It's like Vilfredo Pareto, the Italian socialist, said in the 19th century.
He said, when I am weak, I ask you for equality and justice because those are your principles.
When I am in power, I deny equality and justice to you because those are my principles.
That's what's happened.
That was the foot in the door, the nose in the tent, the camel's nose in the tent, to gain the upper hand morally.
Let's look also at what isn't, who isn't speaking.
The Southern Parliament, to go back to one of our favorite groups of people, Southern Poverty Law Center, organized rallies in Montgomery in support of the blacks.
They like to mail out stuff to law enforcement, pretending that they are friends of law enforcement.
But Heidi Byrish and Mark Potok and the others, they were out in the streets ready and going after Darren Wilson.
Now, you're not going to see one word.
You're not hear a word out of Mark Potok or Morris Dees or Heidi Byrish, because to them, those two white cops in New York, they can just rot in their graves.
And they weren't right.
White is the most incredible thing.
Go after liars, people who conspired to violate the civil rights of Darren Wilson and who set all this in motion.
You're not going to hear anything out of the churches, the Presbyterian church, of which I'm a member, you're not going to have any ringing resolutions at the next General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church.
You're not going to hear anything from the Methodist Church.
You're not going to hear anything in the Southern Baptist Convention.
And the mum is the word among the National Council of Catholic bishops.
The church is going to say, no church will ever address, no priest or clergy will ever address the issue of bearing false witness in this circumstance.
They'll talk about the Ferguson report by the police department tomorrow in pulpits all over America.
But when it comes to what the blacks did, all those clergymen, like the Revite in the Bible and the Good Samaritan, they're going to be walking down the other side of the road because they got their pensions to think about.
And in Congress, there will be not one single Republican senator or congressman who will go on the floor of the Congress and ask when we will get justice against these liars who caused the death of those cops.
That's the degree to which the regime in America, the regime writ large, churches, priests, bishops, newspapers, radio stations, TV stations, congressmen, Republicans, Democrats, conservatives, liberals.
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Amen.
Amen for that.
To James Edwards and not to the Republican Party.
Well, the thing is, you know, let's fast forward.
What's all this going to lead to?
It's going to lead to a situation in Europe and America and any other so-called white majority nation similar to what's happening today in Zimbabwe and South Africa.
You're going to be the subject of genocide.
Once they have the power and the numbers, you can see that principle, they don't care a fig about principle.
They don't care a fig about principles like innocence until proven guilty.
What these perjurers in Ferguson, Missouri were actually doing was organizing a lynch mob.
That's what Heidi Byrick and Mark Potok were trying to do.
They were just so confident that they had the actual constabulary in their pocket that they didn't worry about taking matters into their own hands.
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I don't know what's going to happen when you have Keith Alexander, Sam Dixon, and Jared Taylor all on the air at the same time, but we're about to find out.
Jared Taylor, of course, is the proprietor of American Renaissance, a man who has been appearing on this program since its very inception.
The author of Paved with Good Intentions and the primary contributor to the collection, A Race Against Time, his latest book is White Identity, Racial Consciousness in the 21st Century.
So Jared is booked this evening to inform us about an event taking place next month near Nashville, Tennessee as the American Renaissance 2015 conference.
And we're going to give Jared plenty of time to do that.
But first, while Sam Dixon was on the line, I just couldn't help take advantage of the opportunity to put Jared and Sam together on the airwaves like you would see them together at an American Renaissance conference as we continue and wrap up this conversation about Ferguson.
So basically, Jared, what's happened is Sam has been with us since the top of the hour to talk about the latest events in Ferguson.
And I know that you have been providing through American Renaissance extensive coverage of the latest goings-on as well, including some original pieces pinned by you.
So why don't you give us, if you would, my friend, your take on that, and then we'll let you and Sam kind of flesh it out together.
I think that the most important thing that is going to result from the DOJ's report on the Ferguson Police Department will depend 100% on how the police department reacts.
My initial impression was that they were going to roll over just like every small town police department and beg forgiveness and do what they're told.
But I gather that the mayor has come out recently and said that this report is all a bunch of baloney and they're going to fight it tooth and nail.
I could not be happier about that.
I'm afraid, though, that the Justice Department is going to put 100 lawyers on the case and litigate them to death, bleed them dry.
But in the meantime, I am delighted that they are standing up and saying, to hell with this, we run a good police department.
Go away and shut up.
Well, let me say this.
I defy the Department of Justice to find any police department in any community in America in which blacks do not represent a disproportionately large number of the perpetrators and suspects in violent crime.
I don't care if it's, let's say there's 5% blacks in some community.
It'll undoubtedly be at least 10% of the violent crime will be attributable to them.
And, you know, that's just, of course, the result of racial differences that you've documented so well at your website.
And in a nutshell, it appears as though what we're seeing is that, of course, there wasn't enough evidence.
Certainly there wasn't.
It never should have even been considered for the grand jury to begin with.
But obviously they passed on it because there wasn't enough evidence, no evidence at all, to pursue charges against Darren Wilson.
But still we have this insane lunacy being perpetrated by the Obama administration in general and the so-called Justice Department specifically.
And even though now this official report finds that there was no cause for charges to be brought against Darren Wilson, they still double down by saying, but the cops in Ferguson are obviously racist, and we know that for certain.
That's right.
Jerry, take it from there, and then I want to work.
Yeah, go ahead, my friend, and then we'll work Sam back in.
Yes, their point is that the whole department is racist.
And they point over and over, and the media has repeated time and again, that blacks are only 67% of the population, but 85% of the vehicle stops, 90% of the citations, 90% of the case of use of force, et cetera, et cetera.
Well, first of all, I think the 67% figure black is probably outdated.
That's from the 2010 census.
That place has been turning black at a very rapid rate, and I think it's probably 72 or 3% by now.
And as was just pointed out, it would be impossible to find a city that did not have equivalent racial disproportions in terms of interaction with the police, especially in a place like Ferguson, because when you have this kind of massive transfer, massive white flight, the people who are left, the white people that are left, are old people who can't sell their houses because the arrival of blacks has made their property prices plummet.
They're stuck.
But older white people are not the kind of folk that ever have to deal with the police.
So the statistics prove absolutely nothing except that the Ferguson police have been going after criminals.
With that being said, Sam Dixon, you're still Will recall because I mean you were the source of my finding this out, that some years ago, uh, the U.S. Justice Department and Governor Whitmire or Whitman of New Jersey got together and they had a study.
They put video cameras in the cops' cars, and they were going to uncover and prove that the police departments all over America were racially profiling blacks and arresting them for driving while black.
And when they did that study, they found that actually the white cops were bending over backwards to go easy on the blacks, and it disproved that contention.
Whereupon the Justice Dwarven and Governor Whitman conspired together to try to deep six the study because the facts didn't serve the ideology.
That's exactly right.
Whenever anybody has looked into this alleged, disproportionate, unfair racial profiling of black drivers, they have found that black drivers get stopped because they're the ones who are disproportionately breaking the law.
The other point that the police often make is that if they see a guy go by and he's speeding with the taillights out, most of the time they can't even tell what race the driver is.
They don't know the race of the guy until they've pulled him over.
This whole thing has developed a life of its own that is completely based on fantasy and falsehood.
Now, Jared, I have to also say that you and Keith do not appreciate the gravity of what the Justice Department found when it examined the Ferguson Police Department.
I listened to Anderson Cooper on CNN two nights ago, and he had a panel of three angry black women and a meeby mouthed wife.
And they were in a state of real anger and indignation because after examining 35,000 documents in Ferguson, the Justice Department did find that there had been three racist emails.
Well, I submit that if there were only three racist emails sent by police officers, subjected to months of rock-throwing, spitting, chanted taunts, these guys should be elevated to the cardinal, the College of Cardinals in the Vatican and put on the fast track to canonization.
Yeah, but here's the thing, though.
What qualifies as a so-called racist email?
I mean, I think it goes without saying.
And, Jared, I'll let you chime into what Sam was saying right now.
But if Darren Wilson, if it had been proven that he had ever visited the website of American Renaissance or ever had tuned into this radio program, he would probably be in jail today.
Well, he would be under indictment.
As far as the so-called racist email is concerned, the Justice Department report quoted from seven, not just three, Sam.
Oh, my goodness.
There were seven.
There was seven out of 35,000 documents.
This is shocked out.
Now, let me read.
Let's totally different light.
Let me read you an example of one.
A June 2011 email described a man seeking to obtain welfare for his dogs because they are mixed in color, unemployed, lazy, can't speak English, and have no friggin' clue who their daddies are.
Yes.
Now, that's enough to condemn an entire police department.
Now, my view, Jared, Anderson Cooper, and his indignant, I mean, really enraged, angry black women guests on the panel They were furious because these three people had only been fired.
Well, that's right.
That's right.
Which thinks about the other things?
Do whites have freedom of speech anymore?
Does this mean that any white who has ever expressed an opinion like that is now disqualified from public employment?
Quick answer, Jared, because we're about to come up on break.
Yes, such a person has no human decency.
But let's get back to, after the break, I'd like to talk about the point that James raised about what would have happened to Darren Wilson if he'd ever visited the Amran site or listened to your program.
Well, when we come back from the break, of course, as well, we're going to be plugging the American Renaissance Conference 2015, which is going to be taking place April 17th through the 19th.
We're going to get all of the details about that.
But we still have a matter of seconds before break.
So set the table for us, Jared.
As we talked about, and you actually corrected me quite rightly, he wouldn't be quite in jail yet.
He would be only under indictment if it had been proven that in these searches that he had, well, there's the music.
But we will follow up on that and let's hear it.
I must leave.
I must leave.
I wish you all Godspeed.
Bye-bye.
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They are just wild over Sam Dixon and Jared Taylor, who is still with us.
Sam had to leave.
Jared's still with us.
And the primary focal point of this segment is going to be to plug American Renaissance's 2015 conference.
And we absolutely, positively have to get to that.
But before we do, I want Jared to continue on the point he was about to make before the break.
And that, and all of this scrutiny, had it been proven that Darren Wilson had a sense of racial consciousness, would he have been indicted?
And that is a very scary proposition.
Jared, your thoughts?
Yes, I agree with you 100%.
It is a very frightening thing to think about.
And it's not just Darren Wilson.
I think, for example, in the case of George Zimmerman, they sent 40 FBI or federal agents down to Florida to see whether or not they could find some kind of reason to charge him with a hate crime.
Now, this was after the trial had established all the facts in the case.
So the hundreds of interviews that they conducted had one purpose only, and that was to establish some kind of state of mind.
So the facts were not going to change.
The only thing that they could hang him on was whether or not he'd had an impure thought.
And I am quite convinced that if he had ever been known to listen to the political suspiculo or if he had had any kind of, if he'd had the bell curve on his bookshelf, if he'd ever had any activity making comments on the Amran webpage, that's what it would have taken.
And so in effect, what it means is that if you or I or any person who has any kind of clear engagement in any kind of white consciousness activity, if we get into a fight with a black person and we're afraid for our lives and we have to take drastic measures, there's an excellent chance that the facts of the case will be set aside entirely and what will go on trial is the sorts of things that we have said and are alleged to have thought.
That is really a terrifying situation.
Well, you know, Sam, this is, I mean, excuse me, Jared, this is Keith.
Sam and I were talking about that before.
If some black perpetrator broke into our homes, threatened us, and we shot and killed him, I guarantee you we'd be on the fast track to smelling the perfume in the gas chamber.
Well, merely because of our consciences.
I'm not quite that pessimistic.
If somebody breaks into your house, if you shoot him, I think you could probably have Nazi band music going on in the background the whole time.
I think that in your own house, you're probably safe.
But aside from that, yes?
I was just about to say that may be the fast-retreating last bastion that you have.
Had you been Darren Wilson, and let's use the case that we know, had his computer's internet browser history ever gone to Amrin.com, he'd be facing an indictment.
I think that is a very real possibility.
Yeah, I wouldn't bet the family farm on the fact that we would skate just because they broken into our home, believe me.
Well, when you're this prominent, maybe, maybe not.
But in the case of Darren Wilson, I think we can probably agree that had they found anything in his activity that proved that he had a thought process with regards to some of these so-called taboo issues, it would have been a completely different story for him.
Yes.
Anyway.
That being said, and what's so incredible about that is that as people will remember from our 10-year anniversary event, people who have ever met with folks who associate with this righteous cause of ours, people who have ever been to an American Renaissance conference, these are the most intelligent, salt of the earth, good, decent, kind, and giving people that you could ever possibly want to associate with.
Our people are a good and righteous people.
They're a treasure.
They are a treasure.
And I was reading an article, I guess it was last October, that said that the state of Tennessee had benefited from a boon of so-called hate tourism.
And in this article, two of the events of 2014 that were mentioned was the American Renaissance Conference, of course, and our 10-year anniversary event.
Apparently, Jared, between the two of us in another event or two, we had completely balanced the budget of the state of Tennessee from all of these tourists we had brought in to these conferences, right?
They should be sending us thank you letters.
Oh, you're doing it again.
You're doing it again in 2015, April 17th through the 19th.
And it's an all-star lineup of speakers.
And I'll let you give us the who, what, where, when, and why, Jared.
Well, first of all, I'd like to point out that the staff of the Montgomery Bell State Park in Tennessee, where we hold our event, they absolutely love us.
They say to us that we are their favorite group and they hope we'll come back next year.
So I think people who are complaining about the tourism that we bring just should just talk to the staff who actually cater to us.
Amen to that.
Yes.
No, I think we have a great lineup of speakers.
Peter Brimelow is going to address his first American Renaissance conference, and we're all very excited about that.
I'm sure many of your listeners are regular readers of the V-DARE site.
And Ramsey Paul, he's really one of my favorite speakers.
He's going to be back for his third talk in a row.
How about that?
He is really one of these brilliant people who can talk about serious subjects in a genuinely funny way.
I have enormous envy for people like that.
When I start talking about the things that matter to me, I get grimly serious.
But no, he can talk about it with a light touch and a sense of humor.
I think he's really great.
And then, of course, another of our speakers are going to be Richard Spencer.
Was he to be on your program earlier this evening?
Was he speaking all the time?
He's going to be on in about 10 minutes, Jared.
In fact, half of the docket has been on the show tonight between you, Sam, and Richard.
How about that?
Oh, dear.
Oh, dear.
Well, see, all three of us are going to be speakers at the conference.
So if your guests find anything that we have to say interesting, that's another excellent reason to come.
Well, I will let Richard speak for himself once he's on.
Another person I'm quite excited about is a fellow named Matt Armstrong.
He has been involved in the British nationalist movement for a long time, and he is going to give us an insider's explanation of what went wrong with the BNP.
As you'll recall, at one point the BNP was really doing well.
They had hundreds of local council members.
They had two members in the European Parliament.
And now that party has almost completely fallen apart.
So he's going to give us an excellent talk as to what went wrong and the lessons that we can learn from what went wrong.
Now, another guy coming across the pond, his name is Konstantin Spupurs, and he is with something called the All for Latvia Party.
The All for Latvia Party has been one of these very successful European groups who makes it clear that Latvia must stay Latvian.
This guy lived in the United States for several years.
He speaks excellent English, and I think it's always encouraging to hear from these successful European movements that should be and could be an inspiration for us.
And we're also going to have a session remembering Sam Francis.
Now, James, did you ever meet Sam Francis?
You know, when we went on the air in 2004, Bill Rowland knew Sam Francis, and we went on in the fall of 2004.
And Bill had told me that Sam Francis had narrowly averted, you know, a very dire predicament and that we should get him on the show as soon as he comes out of the hospital.
And of course, he took a turn for the worst and never made it.
So I never had the chance to speak or meet with Sam Francis.
Ah, gee, what a pity.
He really was a great guy, a wonderful guy.
And so we will have a session devoted to remembering Sam Francis.
And for those of you who didn't have an opportunity to know him before he died, and it's been 10 years now, I think this will be a great occasion.
And then another event that's attracting a lot of interest is there's going to be a debate.
There'll be a team composed of Richard Spencer and Sam Dixon.
And then the other team is going to be a team of foreigners, I suppose you could say, John Derbyshire and Peter Brimelow.
And the question of the debate is whether the political system can solve the race problem.
I think that is likely to be quite a lively event and one of the highlights of the conference.
And if you want to be a part of this, ladies and gentlemen, I just want to be sure to work this in, Jared, in case we run out of time.
Peter Brimelow, Ramsey Paul, Richard Spencer, Konstantinus Papoors, Jared Taylor, Matt Armstrong, Sam Dixon, who you just heard from, remembering Sam Francis, and then that debate between Richard Spencer and Sam Dixon versus Peter Brimelow and John Derbyshire.
All of that's going to be taking place April 17th through the 19th at Montgomery Bell State Park, just west of Nashville, Tennessee.
That is the American Renaissance Conference 2015 gathering.
That and much more, of course, the fellowship is what it's all about at the end of the day.
And you're going to be treated to fellowship that which you cannot find at any other event.
And it's coming up in just a matter of weeks, just over a month.
It will be here.
And for all of the information, to sign up tonight, you can actually guarantee your room and seat this evening if you go to Amrin.com.
There to the right of the page, you will see a square rectangle link, Amrin Conference 2015th.
You click on that, you go to the page, you sign up.
You're there tonight.
And Jared, I'll let you know there's a lot of people in the online chat tonight who are excited about it and who are planning to be there, as are we.
Well, that's just wonderful.
I think it'll be a great event.
And as you say, probably we could have a lineup of the dullest possible speakers, but it is the people who come who really make an American Renaissance Conference the phenomenon that it is.
The fellowship is, as you say, really priceless.
Amrin.com, ladies and gentlemen.
We don't need to sell you on this.
This event sells itself.
It's the premier gathering of our movement.
It's been going on since the early 90s, and you can be there for Amrin 2015 if you go to Amrin.com tonight and sign out.