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Feb. 25, 2012 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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Welcome to the Political Cesspool, known worldwide as the South's foremost populous radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
All right, everybody, and welcome back to the third and final hour of a very eventful Political Cesspool Radio Program.
It's Saturday evening, February 25th, and we're coming to you live from WLRM Radio Studios in downtown Memphis, Tennessee, going after the AMSing Association of the Liberty News Radio Network, as you know.
And simulcasting online at thepoliticalcesspool.org.
We're partying tonight in the online chat room, cfcc.org, if you'd like to join us.
And on a night when we're attempting to do something that, to my knowledge, is unprecedented in the history of talk radio, we are plagued with technical issues.
Let me tell you what's going on here.
Let me quarterback this thing for you before we announce our guests and tell you what we are attempting to do that is so historic this evening.
After the first hour of the show, when I walked Keith down to the parking lot as he went to his car, I came back to find that my headset was put.
Now, I don't know if a liberal Marxist agitator snuck into the studio or what, but when I came back into the studio at the end of the first hour, my headset was dead.
So therefore, I had no connection.
Well, they could hear me, but I couldn't hear the network out in Utah that syndicates the show.
I couldn't get any cues from our producers out there.
So I had to call in to my own show from my own studio on a cell phone, which is how you're hearing me now.
Yes, I am sitting in my downtown Memphis studio on a cell phone broadcasting the show to you because it's the only way I can hear my producers because my headset here in the studio is dead.
All right.
Now, with that being established, what we're trying to do here that's so historic, we've been building this up all night.
The people in the chat room have been talking about the different co-hosts of the show that they like, and Winston Smith has been one of them.
Well, you know that Winston Smith hasn't been on the show for several months because he has, unfortunately, completely lost his hearing.
When you can't hear, you can't hardly serve as a talk radio co-host.
Or can you?
Winston Smith trying to show that what one man can do, another can do, even if he doesn't have the luxury of hearing.
What's going on tonight, ladies and gentlemen?
Again, truly historic.
Winston Smith has acquired a courtroom transcriptionist who is typing to Winston via instant message that which she hears coming out over the air.
And if the theory holds, Winston is going to be able to keep up with what we're saying on the air via this courtroom transcriptionist text message.
And therefore, he will be able to reply even though he can't hear.
Let's put this theory to practice.
Winston, are you here with me?
I am here, James.
It's very good to be back on the air with the political festival.
Can you hear me all right?
I can hear you loud, my friend, and I tell you, you brought the biggest smile to my face.
Winston has been text messaging me for a couple of weeks now, pitching this idea to me.
And I said, I don't know if it's going to work, my friend, but we're going to give it a shot.
And it is working, and I couldn't be more elated.
I tell you, you know, in a night where we're having problems here on this end, we're trying to do something so radical, and it seems to be going off seemingly without a hit so far.
Winston, welcome back to the Political Cestal.
I'm sure I speak for all of your fans, those of you here in the chat room, especially who have been talking about your contributions to the show and how much they miss you.
Welcome back.
It's been far too long.
Yes, it's been, I think, upwards of eight months now, James.
I've been very excited to try to do this.
And I'll tell you, it took a little bit of doing with the nice lady who has volunteered her time and effort to get me back on the air.
We owe a lot to her.
She wishes to remain anonymous, but I think she's doing a very fine job.
This nice lady can type upwards of 90 words a minute.
It's so great to be back on the air.
I've enjoyed contributing items to the blog, but I've been looking forward to getting back on the air with you and Eddie and Bill and Keith.
This is a real pleasure for me, and thank you for taking the risk and making this happen.
Well, Winston, the pleasure is not mine, my friend.
I'm just glad that it's working.
And God bless and Godspeed to your accomplice tonight.
When you go in the Guinness Book of World Records for being the first deaf talk show host to conduct an interview, she'll certainly have played a role in that.
Of course, we have a very featured guest tonight, Andy Nowicking.
We're going to introduce him in the next segment.
I was so anxious to find out if this is going to work that I've kind of run roughshot over Andy, who I know is on the line as well.
And we're going to get to him in just a moment.
But Winston, quickly fill in the fans on the state of your condition.
Are the good people at the VA going to be able to repair your hearing to where you can come back in a more traditional capacity to the show?
Well, James, you said it right at the beginning.
I've lost all my hearing.
And the good people at the Veterans Administration, they're doing their best to get the cochlear implants.
Really, it comes down to a personal decision on my part.
It's a rather involved procedure.
And there's the added layer of complication in that a lot of our military people are coming back from Afghanistan and Iraq.
And they've lost hearing in one or both ears.
And there is something of a waiting list.
And I'll tell you, I will gladly go without hearing for the rest of my life before I will deny even one of our returning military men the chance to hear again.
They deserve every benefit we can give them.
And God bless them.
This is really just a minor inconvenience for me.
And by God's grace, I've been able to overcome it and to carry on with my life pretty well.
Even the people with whom I work, they've made accommodations, and we get along just fine.
I'll get co-cure in.
Obviously, this is working good because when I tried to interject, Winston instantly shut down.
I apologize for interrupting you, Winston.
I know you can't hear me, but I have to compliment your, first of all, your dedication to the program and your heroism and giving other people a chance to get in the front of the line and put you align at the VA.
But the fact that you can maintain such great voice control.
I mean, if I didn't have the benefit of hearing, I wouldn't know how loud or softly I'm speaking.
And you're coming across the air like a champ tonight, my friend.
Well, my speech has been a little bit of an issue.
I did have to work very hard to keep from yelling as a lot of people are wont to do once they lose their hearing.
Apparently, I get feedback from friends and family, of course, and I do have some my speech patterns have changed somewhat, but everybody seems to overlook it and accept it, and here I am.
What can I say, James?
I am around the best people in the world, and I work with the best people in the world.
And the people in our movement are great.
Nobody has treated me like anything less than a fully functional human being, which I am.
Don't go away.
Well, you're doing better than people like me with all of their faculties.
I tell you, you amaze me tonight, my friend.
And I don't mean to lavish praise, and I don't want people to think I'm just blowing some boats because we're on the radio.
I mean, this is absolutely amazing to me.
Switzerland, I only wish you could join us in the chat room tonight at CFCC.org.
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Folks, you'll have to forgive me there.
On that last commercial break, I ran right into the commercial while I was still in mid-Senate because I was still marveling at what's happening here tonight.
Live on the air.
Keep in mind, this is not taped.
This has not been practiced.
This is a trial run on a national syndicated scale, and it seems to be working with this back, despite the fact that he can't hear me.
He is ably hosting this show.
And Lincoln, I want to tell you, before we introduce Andy, who's coming up right now, people in the CFCC chat, the Political Festival Online Fan Party, are chanting your name and offering you their ears tonight.
They said you can have their ears.
I remember on a Facebook forum I was on.
I was kind of bemoaning the fact that I couldn't hear.
And I said, friends, Romans, countrymen, anyone, lend me your ears now.
And suddenly I had all these offers for people offering me their ears.
And it was very gratifying.
It really touched me that so many people would be willing to even jokingly get in on something like that.
And to the people at the CFCC online party, thank you very much.
You've inspired me even more.
And I thank you all from the bottom of my heart for your words of encouragement and for your fellowship.
As I said, our mutual friend Courtney from Alabama, a very loyal fan of the show, in there.
She says she wants to call him and I just to say hello to you under the circumstances.
But Winston, again, I'm just so mesmerized right now.
We've got to get back to business.
Business must intrude.
We have a man certainly worthy of equal praise tonight, Andy Nowicki.
Andy making the history with you tonight, my friend, as your guest.
So would you like to have the honor of introducing?
Thank you, James.
Let's get right into it.
The poor man's been waiting for far too long.
He's been waiting a few weeks, as a matter of fact.
All right, my friends.
Andy Nowicki is the author of three novels, Considering Suicide, The Columbine Pilgrim, and a new novel titled the Hill, published by Countercurrent Publishing.
It's our friend Greg Johnson.
He's also written a book of short stories titled The Doctrine Heretic.
He's a regular contributor to The Last Stitch, and he's published work in the New Oxford Review and American Renaissance.
And he's also involved in a new venture with our good friend Richard Spencer of Alternative Right, which I hope you'll tell us about during this interview.
You can visit his blog at www.andynowiki.blogspot.com.
Again, that's andyknowiki.blogspot.com.
And he has a presence on YouTube.
Just put in his name, Andy Nowiki, and who knows?
Maybe you'll get to see his video on the Columbine Pilgrim in which he appears totally shirtless.
The man has a very hairy chest.
It's very impressive.
You'll want to see that.
He teaches college-level English and lives with his wife and two children in Savannah, Georgia, beautiful town.
Folks, please join me in welcoming Andy No Wicki to his third appearance on the political cesspool.
Andy, this is a real pleasure for me.
How are you these days, my friend?
Winston, it's very, very good to be with you on this historic night.
And James, good to be with you as well.
Thank you both for having me.
Well, you're very welcome here, and I look forward to having you on again in a couple of weeks, and we can discuss your new novel, Under the Nahill.
But let's get to the purpose of your appearance on tonight's show.
You recently made a trip to South Africa.
What was the purpose of that trip?
Yes, I went on a little trip to South Africa, and I went under the auspices on the dime of the National Policy Institute, which is the organization that funds Richard Spencer's excellent, if I may say so myself, since I'm one of the contributors, excellent website, alternative right, alternativeright.com.
And I went to, in order to do a kind of investigative piece on the current state of the Afrikaner.
That is to say, the ethnic group that basically ruled South Africa for the second half of the 20th century and was widely reviled all around the world for being the architects of the ideology known as apartheid, but who were effectively dethroned in 1994.
And now they've been living under ANC rule, the rule of the African National Congress and the black majority for the last 18 years.
And I just kind of wanted to see, you know, we've heard a lot of things out of South Africa lately, not nearly as much as we heard back in the 80s when apartheid was all the rage and the world spotlight was on the country.
But in spite of all of the propaganda, all is not well in the Rainbow Nation today.
In fact, there are a lot of things that are going quite badly.
And the Afrikaners are in a somewhat imperiled condition.
And I wanted to go and see things for myself and talk to some people and just sort of get a grasp of what's going on in this beautiful, fascinating, but let's be honest, today somewhat dangerous country.
And so I spent two weeks there, mostly in the Johannesburg, Pretoria area, but also traveled down to a town called Orania and took it all in and wrote a piece for it, which is going to be published in Richard Spencer and Alex Kurtigic's new print journal called Radix, R-A-D-I-X.
So I understand you're written up, you've documented your trip there, and it's going to be presented in Radix magazine, which is a new venture by our good friend, what was that?
Yes, by Richard Spencer and Alex Kurtigic.
And you can find, let me just say, you can find information on Radix magazine at alternativewright.com.
If you go to that site, there's a large portion in the top that you can click on to.
It tells you a little bit about the journal Radix.
What I do know, what I can say about Radix is it's geared to be a sort of national geographic for the radical traditionist and racialist right.
It's going to be a very literate journal with beautiful illustrations and photographs.
And the centerpiece of the first issue will be my write-up of my trip to South Africa and what I saw.
And I encourage all of your listeners to go to alternativewrite.com and purchase a copy, become a subscriber to Radix.
I don't think you'll be sorry.
Well, like you add, I do encourage all of our listeners to go to Alternative Right and to keep their eyes open for the inaugural issue of Radix.
It sounds very exciting, and I look forward to being a regular partaker of it.
Thank you.
I was wondering if we want to South Africa, if you could give the audience just a brief history of the Afrikaners.
You mentioned them earlier.
Can you tell us a little bit about them?
We do get some news about their perilous situation, but just tell us where these people come from and what our relationship to them is.
Okay, well, a brief thumbnail sketch, and I'm no historian, but I'll tell you what I know, which is around the beginning of the 17th century, some settlers from primarily Holland, but also some eventually came from France and Germany as well, settled the southern tip of South Africa under the Dutch East India Company at first.
But many of them settled in this new land.
Hey.
Andy, hang on right there, my friend.
All right.
We're coming up on a break.
If you could pause right there, we're going to pick up right where we're leaving off.
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We're staggering through the show tonight, Ladies and Gentlemen.
As you know, during the second hour, my headset went to put.
So I have called in for two-thirds of the program tonight via my cell phone, which is why my audio quality is substandard tonight.
But it's all happening.
And show what's going on and leave me a little bit of what happened here with the equipment here at the GLRM.
But it's not unusual that we have momentary lapses in the quality of what we have to work with here.
But anyway, I'm here bringing the show to you without the benefit of my microphone.
Winston's here bringing the show to you without the benefit of being able to hear.
Andy No Wick is stuck in the middle of it all.
And we had it all up here for making talk radio history.
And we're having a pretty good time doing it.
A lot of people enjoying the show in the chat.
I hate to say, I mean, what are the odds of the headset dying tonight on the same night we attempt something so unprecedented, but that's where we are.
But we're having, like I said, we're having a good time.
Winston, this is your interview, my friend.
I'm going to sit back and listen to it.
Back over to you.
I know, of course, you and Andy were in the midst of a conversation when we ran up on that last commercial break.
So, Winston, if you don't mind, reset the table for us and toss it back over to Andy.
Okay, well, we are still talking with Andy No Wicki.
And when we went to our break, I had asked him to give us a brief thumbnail sketch of the Afrikaners, the white people of Dutch descent in South Africa.
And he was doing that.
So, Andy, can you please continue that?
Yes, well, just briefly, because, again, I'm no historian, but this group of people, mostly Dutch, but also some French Huguenots of Calvinist orientation and some Germans, settled in the southern tip of South Africa.
And it's a fascinating story.
They eventually developed their own culture, their own language, Afrikaans, which they still speak today.
And there are many parallels to the original settlers of America, because eventually, just like you had the great westward migration in North America,
in South Africa, there was the Great Trek when you had a lot of Afrikaners going out to fend for themselves in the great African interior and dealing with all the dangers and hardships that accompanied that trek.
And along the way, they really became this very unique people.
And again, with their own language, their own culture, their own cuisine, whatever, that they're in the middle of darkest Africa, this white tribe.
Like I said, a really interesting story.
And so I've been fascinated with them for a while, and I was very, very happy to be able to go and take it all in and see it with my own eyes.
It seems that the information that I get from South Africa consists of pictures of white people who have been beaten to a bloody pulp and who have been killed.
And the stories are stories of farms that have been confiscated by Mugabe and given to the white farmers and given away to black South Africans.
And now those farms are in wretched condition.
They're dust bowls.
But can you tell us about the situation for the Afrikaner today?
What is a typical Afrikaner situation like?
Well, I alluded earlier to how all is not well in the rainbow paradise, the rainbow nation that how it's been described since 1994, since the end of apartheid.
And indeed, there are a lot of terrible things that are happening to everybody, but maybe especially to the Afrikaners.
You talked about the incidents in Zimbabwe with Robert Mugabe seizing white farmers' land and giving it away to blacks, and then the land just going to waste.
That's, of course, in Zimbabwe.
In South Africa, things aren't quite that punitive, and yet there is, at least not in an official sense, but there has been this terrible rash of farm murders over the last 15 years or so, 15, 20 years, basically since Mandela first became president and the ANC took over and the new dispensation began.
And so you've had thousands of white farmers who have been viciously murdered in their homes under just aggravated circumstances, just things that makes your blood run cold when you read about it.
And so that's something that I think has actually, you know, in spite of the politically correct anti-white zeitgeist that we all know and hate.
In spite of that, this news has still gotten out and it's a fairly well-known phenomenon.
So there's that going on.
There's also just the crime rate in general, the violent crime, the proportion of rapes and murders and so forth.
And again, I don't want to make it seem like whites are the only victims because there's plenty of black-on-black crime as well.
Crime affects everybody and there are law-abiding people of all races.
But, again, there seems to be a special animus in the society today towards the white, the whites and particularly the Afrikaners, because of the fact that the ANC is eager to whip up this bitterness towards the Afrikaners because of the years of.
apartheid.
And so things are not well in South Africa, I think it's fair to say.
Things have really crumbled significantly and there's been a rash of there's been a great number of Afrikaners and whites in general who have emigrated, who have left the country, somewhere around a million, I think.
And again, the rape and murder statistics are through the roof.
The farm murders are just a sensationally awful phenomenon.
And so yeah, there's some good, but there's a heck of a lot of bad in South Africa today.
So the promised post-apartheid panacea has failed to materialize.
We were told that during the apartheid years that things in South Africa were so terrible, so now they've succeeded in getting the African National Congress to rule, and things just really haven't worked out as well as they had hoped, have they?
No, and I mean, it's really no secret.
I don't think it's, I mean, it's maybe not something you're supposed to talk about, but, you know, people among themselves, it's well known that the current government is incredibly corrupt and perhaps complicit in some of the evils and ills that beset current South African society.
But of course, they're probably going to just keep getting elected over and over and over again because they basically are the only party that exercises that kind of power under the full democracy that South Africa now is, looking at the population as a whole and their voting habits.
So it is in effect a dictatorship even if it is a democracy because the minority really don't have much of a recourse.
And things don't appear to be getting better for them.
Is there anything that we here in America can learn from the Afrikaner experience?
Are there any parallels between white South Africa and the United States, past or present?
Let me ask you, why should white Americans be concerned about the plight of the Afrikaners?
Well, there's a couple different ways to answer that.
I think we should be concerned about the plight of the Afrikaners simply because we care about justice and because we don't want to see a people get wiped out in essence.
Perhaps talk of genocide is a little overheated, but still, there is a lot of fear in South Africa today among this particular group of people that is very imperiled given the current circumstances.
So we should care about them for fairness's sake, and that would apply to anybody of any race.
But in particular, I think as far as cultural, ethnic, even racial commonalities, we can see in South Africa perhaps a foretaste of what the rest of the West will become if current social, cultural, and demographic trends continue the way they are.
With white numbers declining as Patrick Cannon has recently gotten fired for talking about.
And, you know, in that happening concomitantly with mass immigration and political correctness and all of the Andy, let's hold up right there.
Hate to interrupt you.
McGinn, hate to interrupt this historic evening, but we've got to take a break.
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All right, everybody, welcome to the final segment of tonight's third and final hour of the Political Festival Radio Program.
I'm your host, James Edwards.
I want to apologize to you again for the technical difficulties on my end here at our flagship radio station.
As you know, about the last half of the show, I have been broadcasting to you from my cell phone rather than my studio microphone because there's a problem with my headset here.
So, if it sounds like I'm broadcasting to you from the bottom of a well or from inside a tin can, that's the reason we hope to rectify whatever problem happened here of the course between now and next week, next week's live show.
But nevertheless, the show must go on.
I mean, this is live radio, so I'm doing the best I can with what I've got.
And thanks to people in Utah who are helping to patch this one together.
And of course, in the midst of it all, we're doing something that, to my knowledge, is completely unprecedented so much as we have a courtroom transcriptionist typing to Political Festival co-host Winston Smith, letting him know what's being said by both me and our featured guest of the night, Andy Nowicki.
And through this instant message, through this instant messaging, Winston Smith is able to reply in his own voice on the air.
We have a man who cannot hear hosting a radio show tonight, folks, only on the political festival.
And I tell you what, as Sam Bushman, our network owner at Liberty News Radio, pointed out, it is making for great radio tonight because there's an absolutely outstanding interview being conducted right now between Winston Smith and Andy Nowicki.
And we have a couple of seconds of delay before Winston's able to respond, but that just almost adds to the authenticity of it all.
It's almost as if Winston's broadcasting from a war zone or from some remote location that you might see on CNN, and he's got the earpiece in his ear.
There's a couple of seconds before he can answer.
And it's just that normal delay.
I don't know.
It's just, anyway, great radio tonight.
And I'll never forget.
I'll tell you, you know, you do so many shows.
We've done a thousand shows in eight years, more than that, more than a thousand.
And I will never forget this show, no matter how much longer this festival's on the air.
We're on another 20 years.
I will never forget this show.
I'll never forget the first show I ever did, and I'll never forget this show.
Some of the ones in between you might have to remind me about.
I won't forget this one.
And I appreciate Andy Nowicki for being a part of it.
But Winston, with that being said, back over to you as we conclude tonight's broadcast.
Another question for Bran.
Thank you, James.
Andy, since this is the last segment, I would like to get into what to me is one of the most fascinating aspects about South Africa, and that is Orania.
It's a town right in the middle of black South Africa, and it is a white Afrikaner enclave.
Is that right?
Could you tell us a little more about Orania, where it is, and why it was founded?
Yes.
Orania is a little town about 300 miles or so southwest of Johannesburg in the northern Cape in the middle of what they call the Kareo, which is basically desert, this very dry, brushy kind of land.
And right along the Orange River is this little town that's sprung up over the last 20, 25 years that's kind of a unique town the world over in that it's what could be called a white mini ethno-state.
It's a town that was originally planned.
I think the land was purchased by some people, certain Afrikaners. the last days of apartheid when it was clear that the old regime was going to give up the ghost.
They purchased this land and then after apartheid ended and the new regime took over, it started just with a trickle.
A few people came and they were kind of laughed at and thought of as old-fashioned, you know, people who would just soon enough disappear or be diluted in a glorious new South Africa.
But as things continued to not improve in the country in general, the town grew and it continues to grow.
And now it's still, don't get me wrong, it's still a fairly small town.
Today it's at around 1,000 people.
And they're having to more or less manage the growth at this point.
And it's basically just a town for people of Afrikaner background who don't wish ill on anybody else, but who simply want to preserve their culture, want to preserve their traditions, and don't see much of a chance for that happening in the country as it stands today with the massive crime problem, the farm murders with black economic empowerment,
which is like a kind of affirmative action to the max and just these incredibly dire conditions in the country at large.
They've more or less taken up stakes and moved to be among their own.
And it seems to be a very successful experiment, albeit on a very small scale.
But they've attracted a good deal of attention.
I mean, I'm sure many of your readers have already heard of Irania.
It's a fairly unique idea, a unique kind of experiment, and it's quite a place to see.
And I feel very fortunate to have been able to go there to see it.
As I understand it, when they first purchased the land of Irania, it was really nothing more than a dilapidated, ramshackle, run-down camp.
And now they are transforming it into a model of green energy and renewable energy.
What is your impression of the physical town of Irania?
Well, it's, I mean, the town itself, I wouldn't say, is not like it's a spectacular place to look at.
You know, it's a fairly humble, kind of hard-scrabble little place.
You know, this isn't a place for the privileged, as the leftists like to call us.
You know, these are people who work hard and don't have a whole lot.
But that said, I think there's a real sense of community there, and there's a sense of safety that you don't have anywhere else.
It's something that people who travel to South Africa will find extraordinary coming from America is the immense security that everybody has.
You drive through a normal suburban neighborhood in suburban Johannesburg, and every single house has got this enormous fence, and I'm not kidding, with barbed wire, electric wire.
And we're not talking about around a prison or around some maximum security kind of place.
We're just talking around normal houses.
And this is how, again, this is how people live today.
This is the fear that they live in.
But in Irania, you know, it's out in the country.
It's open.
People are walking around at any hour of the night.
And you can just feel the difference in the air.
It's quite extraordinary.
So basically, the Iranians took this dump, really, and they're turning it into a very nice place.
And to me, that stands in a striking contrast to what happened in Zimbabwe, where Mugabe took the wonderfully functioning farms, took it away from Hawaii farmers and gave it to black Zimbabweans, and they turned those productive farms into dust bowls.
Would you say that's a fair contrast?
Yes, I mean, absolutely.
I haven't, of course, haven't seen Zimbabwe, but it's fairly well known that it's a blight and a failure, and nobody can really deny it right now.
And yeah, the differences between a place like that and other places similar to it that you'd see in South Africa, like comparing downtown Johannesburg, which is crumbled to such an extent in so many ways to almost third world type conditions now, and compare it with someplace like Orania, you really see quite an extraordinary difference.
And I think we might be running low.
I think our time is running out.
So I just want to take an opportunity to recapitulate where this information, where the stuff I'm talking about right now, where you can read the article that I've written on my trip to South Africa.
And that is from a journal called Radix.
And you can find information on Radix at alternativewright.com.
And again, I said this at the beginning of the show, but I just wanted to repeat it now before we run out of time, just to make sure everybody gets that information.
Again, alternativewright.com.
And the name of the journal is Radix, R-A-D-I-X.
Andy, thank you so much for putting in that plug because your intuition was correct.
We were running close to being out of time by you actually now hired as an official co-host for receptive.
But what a great show tonight.
I know we lived through it on my end.
I feel as though I limped through it because of my technical inabilities over here.
But Winston Smith doing far more with far less.
I want to thank our mystery core transcriptionist who makes talk radio history with us tonight.
Obviously, our featured guest, Andy No Wicki, be sure to check out his catalog of work at alternativewright.com.
Andy and Winston will both be back with us in two weeks as we do part two of this interview.
In the meantime, I'm your host, James Edwards, on behalf of the entire Standard Group Photo Successful Radio Program.
All of our friends in the online chat, our crew out in Utah.
God bless you, God keeping you.
We will see you next week.
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