June 13, 2009 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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Welcome to the Political Cesspool, known worldwide as the South's foremost populous radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the political cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
We are not James Edwards.
We are Bill Rowland and Winston Smith on tonight as co-hosts of the Political Cesspool while James takes a little vacation to a faraway place with his bride.
So we're back on the air.
It's Winston Smith here with me and Pete Stanton, our correspondent from Washington.
So is everybody still here?
I am.
I'm still here.
All right, we're all still here.
Great.
Well, Pete, to round it up, give us some more news from out your way.
What's going on?
What you think, and what's next?
Okay, well, to me, the political access pool is not just me listening and talking and contributing, but it's also living it because so much things happen to me.
I'm sure you gentlemen, that there's not enough time in the show every week to let everybody know what's going on.
But a couple days ago, I went to a job fair down near my house because I'm looking for better employment to pay the bills.
And all the employers that were there had advertisements of who they were and what field they're in.
Like FBI was there, a construction company was there, and defense contractors are there.
I swear it to God that every advertisement for every prospective employer, for every booth or display they set up, they showed pictures of women and minorities.
So instead of at the end of the last century, Irish need not apply.
It's white men need not apply.
And the FBI was there, and I picked up a pamphlet about professional staff careers, and they have a bunch of pictures of people have headshots, and on the front cover is a headshot of a man with a turban.
And I was thinking, great, you know, more diversity down our throats.
Pete, I'll give you an example of just what you're talking about.
I went to a website.
It was actually a hospital, a local hospital here, was applying for a job for which I'm qualified.
Or they were advertising for a job for which I was qualified.
And I went through their process, an online process of applying for this job.
And at the end of, you'll notice that if you apply for a job online, and this is everybody, if you apply for a job online, when you come to the end of the application, there's a diversity question at the end of every one of these applications.
And that I've, at least everyone I've taken, especially if it's a big company.
And they'll ask you to identify yourself by race and gender preference, usually gender preference.
And so most of them, you know, they have all the different races, including more than one race and this kind of thing.
And you're supposed to click that and then your gender.
Well, one of the options is I prefer not to answer this question.
And I always click on that.
But on this particular website for this hospital job, I went to the drop-down menu and every race was listed except white.
There was no click point or no button for white.
It was all minorities or I prefer not to answer this question.
So naturally I clicked on that.
And my advice to everyone out there who is applying for a job is always click on the I Prefer Not to Answer section because let them guess.
Let them make the decision about what race you are and let them worry about their statistics.
All we're doing is knocking ourselves out of jobs when we click ourselves as white.
When we mark ourselves as white, we might as well say that we are unemployable.
Right.
And if you look on the, they say all the employers say this is for statistical purposes.
I say bullocks to that because of all the jobs I'm qualified or semi-qualified or not even qualified for, I never get a call back.
No, of course not.
Because it's not like I have a fifth grade education.
I have a master's degree and I can't get callbacks.
No, you're not going to get a call back because here's the problem with this statement they make that this is for statistical purposes.
Why isn't it for statistical purposes after you've been hired?
Why do they need it for statistical purposes before you're hired?
That doesn't make any sense.
Why wouldn't they use it for statistical purposes upon hiring you?
And, you know, that would be another option I hope I would have at some point is saying, I'll answer that question once you hire me.
Then you can use it for statistical purposes.
Yeah, just look at my resume or look at my qualifications.
Don't look at me unless it's a job doing manual labor and I'm either a paraplegic or I'm missing a leg or an arm.
I mean, these employers, they're so brainwashed that says, oh, we need to be more diverse.
Diversity is supposed to be everybody.
Let's face it, it's not.
Well, and another thing is you can always mark the disabled button and hit the disabled button.
If they ask you what your disability is, say, well, I'm a middle-aged white male.
That's my disability.
I can't seem to get hired because I'm a middle-aged white male.
Well, in my case, I can say I'm nuts.
Let's try that.
Indeed.
Well, Peter, thanks for calling in.
We always appreciate you filing a report from there in Washington, D.C.
No problem.
Believe me, my pleasure.
What's that?
Believe me, it's my pleasure.
Well, don't be a stranger.
Call in next time, too.
Next time we'll kick James out, and we'll see Winston, Bill, and Pete.
Okay.
All right.
Thanks a lot, Peter.
No problem.
Folks, that was Political Cesspool roving reporter and international correspondent and general man of mystery, Peter Scoop Stanton, there for the Political Cesspool.
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And we have a caller, Mark, from Mountain View, California.
Mark, you're in the political cesspool with Bill Rowland and Winston Smith.
How are you this evening, sir?
Hi there.
I'm pretty good.
I'm going to slosh around a little bit in the cesspool here.
If that's right with you.
Because the quickest way of getting stuff across is by a website, I want to tell the audience my website has got a lot of stuff that bears on some of the things you've been saying.
And that is cosmicpenguin.com.
CosmicliketheUniverse, penguinlikethebird.com.
Just run those two words together.
So now in the previous hour or before that, one of the things you were talking about was evil homosexuals, how homosexuality is an evil perversion.
And of course, that comes from the Bible, the Old Testament.
That's why people in our culture believe that homosexuality is an evil perversion.
Now, I'm not talking about people forcing themselves on other people, which, of course, heterosexuals, I mean, some heterosexuals do, just as well as some homosexuals do.
But I'm talking about consenting people and gay people wanting to get married, stuff like that.
Now, we believe that that stuff is bad.
Those of us who do believe that because it says so in the Bible.
But there's a lot of actual evil in the Bible.
The Bible is a very, in many respects, a very harmful document, and that's what really we mean by evil.
Well, that's a very interesting theory, and it's one that's been advocated by every.
By the way, thanks a lot for the call, Mark.
I appreciate you calling in.
But people have been saying that the Bible has been the source of so many ills and so much bloodshed in the world.
And I would like to remind those people that during the 20th century, it was atheistic Jewish Bolshevism that resulted in the deaths of untold millions upon millions upon millions of people.
The Bible has not been the source of evil.
The Bible is the source of good.
Even Benjamin Franklin said that if people would just apply primitive Christianity as found in the Bible, then this country would survive and indeed would prosper.
But your assertion that the Bible is an evil book is one that I just reject out of hand, and it betrays a complete lack of understanding of what the Bible says.
You have approached it completely wrongly.
You've approached it trying to find things wrong with it.
And it has closed itself to you.
I pray for your soul because you have tampered wrongly with God's word.
Bill?
Well, Mark, I mean, I'd like to ask you.
Yeah, I think I got cut off, but now I'm back.
So actually a little bit about if Christian principles were applied.
But, you know, there's a very good website called evilbible.com.
Okay, wait a minute.
Hold on a second.
Wait a minute, Mark.
Now, you know, this is, you're promoting websites here, and that's, you know, if you want to mention them, that's fine.
But it's okay.
Here's the thing is you came on the air and you're making assertions about the Bible, and Winston and I are both Christians.
So, you know, if this is an attack on Christianity, we're prepared to defend ourselves.
Well, I think Jesus' idea with ideas were great.
I think Jesus was a terrific guy.
I don't know that he was terrified.
Everybody, hold that thought.
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We have Mark on the line who says the Bible is evil and that it's full of evil and that we're going to try to find out where he's coming from on that.
So, Mark, I mean, you've made some statements here about the Bible being evil.
Give me some specific examples of the evil Bible.
Okay, well, now, it's not all evil.
There's no stuff in there.
Give me an example.
Where is the Bible evil?
Excuse me?
We don't have much time.
You need to give me some examples of Jesus.
Okay, why is evil misrepresented there?
It's not all evil.
No, no, I said, give me an example.
There's no evil in the Bible.
What is evil in the Bible?
I'm on the other side.
Okay, the main thing that's evil about the Bible is the God that it says made the earth, made the universe, and everything, okay?
Jehovah, Yahweh, whatever you call it.
It's the same in the Jewish religion, the so-called Christian religion, which in most cases isn't the teachings of Jesus, and the Islamic religion, where this deity is called Allah.
Okay, that's pointless.
What's evil about the Bible?
What's evil about Jehovah?
Okay, what's evil about Jehovah, as you people can see if they look at evilbible.com, is that Jehovah demands that everybody worship him.
He tells his worshipers to murder everybody who doesn't worship him.
Where does it say that in the Bible?
Oh, just look at the website there.
I'm not scared of it.
You came on the line and said that there was evil in the Bible.
Oh, look, this information is all up there.
This is what the web is good for.
Now, this information is the website.
You're going to keep on making accusations, and you're not willing to back them up.
We're not interested.
We're interested in your call.
Oh, you shall have no other gods before me, okay?
Okay, all right, listen.
If I'm a father of four children, and I say I'm your father, you should obey me because I'm raising you.
Why would I say, oh, by the way, you should also obey everybody else's father?
Why because you're not going to be able to say that you're going to be in the book of Numbers, okay?
In the book of Numbers, there is a place there in the Old Testament where God supposedly tells Moses to get together an army of 2,000 men from each of the, I guess it's, what, 13 tribes or something, and murder all the Midianites.
Now, the Midianites in that section of the Bible, the book of Numbers, are not recorded as having done anything wrong.
But they were fraternizing, their kids were fraternizing with the Israelite kids.
And so the Jewish religion, which is the basis of the so-called Christian religion, most of the so-called Christian religions, is so according to God's instructions to Moses.
You're saying the Jews killed the Midianites for no reason.
Well, they killed them on instructions from God, but it wasn't the Jews.
It was the Jews, right?
Well, okay, what about all the Christians?
What about all the churches and the other Christians?
Now you're changing the subject that murdered all those people in the Inquisition.
Okay, where does the Bible say to do that?
Where does the New Testament do?
They were following what they considered to be the Bible, weren't they?
No, people in power in the church carried out the Inquisition.
And they did so in many cases wrongly.
But that's not in the New Testament.
They killed a lot of other Christians.
It tells anybody to murder anybody.
It condemns murder of all kinds.
Unfortunately, Jesus says that he's the son of the Jehovah in the Old Testament.
Yes, that's true.
But where in the New Testament does Jesus say to go and murder people?
Well, in the Old Testament, they're all the same of where Jehovah told his followers to murder people.
And who were his followers again?
Hey, are you telling me that the Jews murdered people for no reason?
Is that what you're saying?
I'm telling you that the Jews murdered people, some of them, because their leaders came up with this bogus idea of Jehovah, who served as false the most powerful role model, the deity in your religion.
So?
But it was the Jews, right?
Oh yeah right, the evil Jews, sure?
Okay well, that's what you said.
You said that he ordered the Jews.
Well, if the, if there is no Jehovah and the Jews created this Jehovah for their own purposes, then who's the evil?
Who's evil here everybody?
Look no no no, it was Jehovah.
Was the Jews the God of the fact?
You're saying that the Israelites could not, but then you're saying the Israelites are evil.
Want to let me answer or not gonna let me answer?
I'm waiting for your answer.
I just asked you a question okay fine okay, here I'm gonna answer.
Yes, some Jews are evil.
Zionists are evil, just like some Christians are evil.
Most of the Nazis called themselves Christians, didn't they?
No, they didn't.
No actually, they didn't call themselves Christians.
They were Anti-Christian and they put Christians in concentration camps, one being Pastor Niemüller, who was one of the early opponents of Hitler, as actually, the church that opposed Hitler and some concentration camps had more Christians than Jews or anybody else.
Oh, the Catholic Church went along with Hitler.
No, the church did not go along with Hitler.
The church never ever, collectively supported Hitler.
That's wrong.
And in fact, the main Nazi, the one who has really controlled Nazi ideology, Heinrich Himmler, declared himself a pagan and Goebbels was a pagan and an atheist, and that's true, that the leadership you know, declared themselves Non-Christian.
But all the followers, all the people that that kidnapped people and herded them at the concentration camps and starved them and murdered them, they were just regular Christians, at least according to them.
Pathologically untrue, that is pathologically untrue.
You don't know that and you couldn't name me one concentration, one leader of the SS who said, hey, I'm a Christian, that's why I'm doing this.
What about all the followers of the SS?
The SS was specifically a pagan organization because it was run by Heinrich Himmler and Heinrich Himmler was trying to create a new pagan Germany.
That's what he was trying to do.
All the symbols and rituals were pagan rituals and symbols.
You're telling me that the people in the German army that went and slaughtered people in Poland and Czechoslovakia and all kinds of other places, that they were all pagans and they had given up their Christian religion.
No, that many of the people, those German soldiers were mainly the communists and they were fighting the Soviet Union, mainly in 1941 through 45, and they were fighting against mainly atheists and communists, and and the people did not attack the Soviet Union, they were atheists.
The Soviet Union did not attack Germany, Germany attacked it, the Soviet Union.
The Soviet Union however, did attack Poland along with Germany and took over half of Poland.
And the Germans did go to war with the Soviet Union, and one Russian general asserts that they did so because the Soviet Union was preparing to attack the West.
And that's a Russian general, as the book is called Ice Prime.
Just you read it.
Yeah, as long as you're making accusations against Christians, why don't you get yourself caught up on history?
Hey look okay, one guy said that it didn't happen.
Germany invaded the USSR, the USSR, the units of the USSR that the Germans attacked and that they destroyed were prepared for offensive action.
Oh, they were not prepared for defense.
In fact, the charges had been removed from bridges that they would have blown in the event that they were invaded, because their units virtually all of them, were organized around an offensive and the Germans received information to that effect.
But I mean, Want to talk to war?
Believe me, I'll blow you out of the water on that fella.
They invaded Russia for 20 years.
They knew that they were not.
But in any case, let's talk to them again about the Bible.
Let's get back to the Bible and Christianity.
I'll tell you one German who was a Christian and an outspoken Christian, and that was Count von Stauffenberg.
Do you know who Count von Stauffenberg was?
You know?
No, but I do.
Mark, I want to answer my question.
Do you know who Count von Stauffenberg was?
He was an outspoken German Christian.
Do you know who he did?
Did he try to assassinate Hitler?
Bingo.
Very good.
So, okay, now, so all these anti-Nazi, all these Nazis out here who are so evil, the one man who tries to assassinate Hitler was evil.
I don't have to interrupt.
We're coming to our next break.
So, Bill, hold that thought.
Mark, thank you for the call.
It's been most enlightening.
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Winston Smith, Bill Rowland, we're rounding up the last hour of the political cesspool.
We're so glad you're listening to this, and we're so glad you're joining us tonight.
And we have Mark with us on the air.
We're going to give him about five minutes here, but he says that the Jehovah God of the Bible is evil and created by the Jews.
So, Mark, go ahead.
Now, here's my point.
Let me give this to you.
I'm going to say that.
Well, you just misrepresented me a bit.
Did I correct that?
Being evil, when in fact, the greatest murderers of the world, Joseph Stalin, Mount Seitung, Adolf Hitler, Benito Mussolini, the great dictators of the 20th century were all atheists, anti-Christian, not Christian.
And it's simply a falsehood to say that the Nazi regime that controlled Germany was full of Christians and that they were committing these atrocious acts when the fact is that the Soviet Union also had soldiers who may have been Christians that were committing murders and atrocious acts.
So you need to get to the point here as to why the Jehovah of the Bible is evil.
You know, you're talking in the terms of Moses and the Exodus and Numbers about events that were 3,000 years ago.
And clearly there could have been circumstances involved in which the Israelites were compelled to kill people on a mass scale.
No, there weren't.
They were not compelled to kill the Midianites.
And, okay, please don't misrepresent me.
I did not say the Jews created Jehovah or the Bible.
But you did.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Well, who did?
Hold on.
No, I didn't.
I said some.
I didn't.
It's not an answer.
I said, whoa.
Would you stop interrupting?
You created the Bible in Jehovah.
You want to stop interrupting me so I can talk?
If you'll give me an answer.
Well, I'm trying to if you don't interrupt me.
Okay.
Some, some few Jews created the idea of Jehovah and created the Old Testament, the Torah.
Some few Jews, okay, like some few Christians, You know, took over, you know, with the help of the United States military, took over and destroyed democracy in about 50 different countries just since World War II.
That has nothing to do with the Bible.
You're talking, you came on this show and said that you mentioned a website about the evil Bible.
Yes, sir.
And then you mentioned that Jehovah was an evil God that was created by men.
And I'd ask you specifically, who created him?
And you said a few Jews.
Well, there weren't anything but a few Jews at that time in the world.
Well, there were thousands of Jews.
There were tens of thousands of them.
They had, you know, these tribes that each had a few thousand in them at least.
But it was only a few leaders that came up with this idea to give themselves power.
Okay, what leaders were that?
Who are you talking about?
What leaders came up with it?
Well, Moses was one, I guess.
Well, there was Abraham and Moses from God and convey them to the people.
And how did they come up with this?
Abraham was about probably, I think, 1,200 years away from Moses.
How did he come up with this idea and then Moses just picked it up from how?
How did this idea get transmitted over so many generations of these people you don't want to call Jews?
And how did it get instituted over so long a period of time?
Because from Abraham to Jesus, you're talking about a couple of millennia of these kinds of people.
Because back in those culture was just religion.
It was pretty much that was it.
And so they passed it down and they had their, you know, verbally and they had their scrolls and stuff.
I'm not saying Abraham and Moses weren't Jews.
Yeah, they were Jews, but you say the Jews did something which you folks say and who was passing it down from Abraham to Moses.
How did it get passed down?
But who was doing it?
Well, you know, Abraham told somebody and somebody else told somebody about them.
You can tell.
Who is it?
It's passed down over all these generations.
It's called the oral tradition, and they also have scrolls, right?
Between him.
The core is a scroll.
So he wrote it on where and by who?
Who was getting this tradition?
This is bogus because, I mean, it did get passed down somehow, didn't it?
Well, who was suing it?
Hey, read the Old Testament.
No, no, no.
You tell me.
I'm not going to read them and they be dangerous.
Because you don't want to answer the question because the answer is the Hebrews.
That's who was doing it.
That's who was passing it down.
No, it wasn't.
And if you would think that the Bible is evil and all of that generations of the same people, then you have to imply that those people must have been evil and had evil intentions.
Because you're talking about a very long span of time.
People do what Abraham and Moses.
People do what they're told.
Just like you believe that gay people are evil because you've been told that.
No, no, that's wrong.
You're dead wrong.
I know gay people are evil because I've had experience with homosexuals and I know what their appetites are and I know what their hidden agenda is.
I learned about homosexuals through contact and experience.
That's how I learned about homosexuals.
Well, I've met homosexuals too, and they're very nice people.
Okay, that's great.
What does that have to do with being evil or not?
You know, one of the nicest guys in the world was John Wayne Gacy by everybody that knew him.
So he's a great guy.
He was a homosexual pedophile, right?
Well, let's go ahead and say that.
Homosexuals were that were not identified.
They were just ordinary nice people.
Okay, Mark, we've had enough time with you.
We've been running in circles long enough.
Okay, another caller.
Bill, you did a great job exposing him for exactly what he is.
We could discuss him for a while.
You know, he comes on the air here and he's talking about the evil Jehovah, but he doesn't want to say who's responsible for this evil, you know?
It's just, I guess, you know.
He comes on wanting to talk about the Bible being evil, which he claims to have some expertise about, but then he says the fourth commandment is, thou shalt have no other gods before me.
And the fourth commandment is actually has to do with the Sabbath day, and he talks about the 13 tribes of Israel, and there were 12.
But we'll talk about him some more.
Right now, we have Tom from Lancaster, Pennsylvania.
Tom, you're on the political cesspool with Winston Smith and Bill Rowan.
How are you this evening, sir?
I'm fine.
Thank you.
I wanted to say one thing.
First of all, I'm not going to argue theology.
I am a Christian, and when my soul separates from my physical body, I hope that Jesus Christ will save my soul.
That's my only hope.
Now, I want to make a couple statements here.
From what I have read, the Treaty of Versailles was the basic cause of World War II.
No doubt.
It separated Germany and gave part of it to Poland.
And why Germany attacked West Prussia was because Poland would not give the Germans a corridor to the province called West Prussia.
And there were a lot of Germans that were being shot, and Hitler put a stop to it.
Now, the question that I learned from Pat Buchanan in his book, A Republic, Not an Empire, Russia attacked Poland from the east side going west, and Germany attacked only the part, they first attacked the part that was their original, their West Prussia.
The question is, that Buchanan said, we all know this, but how come England and France didn't declare war on Russia like they did Germany?
That's a very good question, and I'm glad you read it.
That's the one thing that I wanted to clear up.
And I never knew that until I saw it in Buchanan's book.
And then it opens up a whole new perspective on things.
But, you know, I don't know whether what Hitler was.
I believe I did read that the Pope endorsed Hitler.
I'm not saying the rest of the Christian world did, but I do believe that I read that, and I can't quote the source from that right now.
And far the rest of them, yeah, they were like, what do you call that, Teutonic Himmler and what was the other one that you said?
Himmler and Goebbels, particularly Himmler wanted to create Teutonic night type of organization.
Right.
Yes.
So I just wanted to clear that up, and you did a very good job of exposing the guy of what he really is.
He's creating confusion when there is no need.
I'm not a theologian.
I only go by the basics.
There are things that none of us can explain that are written or why they were written.
And I do believe that there were some changes in there.
For example, it says, thou shalt not kill.
The original reading is, thou shalt not commit murder.
That's right.
Well, that's a far cry from saying the Bible is evil.
Well, no, it's not evil.
It's only his interpretation might be evil.
Exactly.
Well, we agree.
What you're saying is just fine.
I agree that that is a fact.
I said that I was talking about murder.
But what Mark was saying was that the Bible is wholly and intrinsically an evil document.
By the way, Tom, thank you for the call.
We're about to go to our next break, and we do want to thank you for calling.
It's a good call.
But Mark was here trying to accuse the Bible of being an intrinsically evil document.
And this is a guy who has no idea what the Bible says.
And all he could do was point to a website, and he could not quote anything from the website.
He just wanted people to go to the website, and he had none of the facts at his fingertips, and that hard to do because there are no facts to support his assertion.
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All right, welcome.
Welcome back to the Political Cesspool, my friends.
Bill, are you there?
I'm here.
I thought you were going to bring us in.
No, I was waiting for you to do it, but that's okay.
We managed to get in.
We do it every time.
We managed to get through the gate.
So that's amazing.
Yeah, we do.
Well, folks, you're listening to the last segment of the Political Cesspool for this broadcast.
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We thank all of our callers, including ones who need to indulge in some metamusal or at least stop imbibing in certain hallucinogenic drugs.
Bill, you wanted to amplify some of the statements made by Tom from Lancaster.
And then we have another caller.
We have Craig, who called us last week.
But Bill, what did you want to say about this?
Very quickly, I just wanted to say that what he says, what the caller from Pennsylvania said about the Allies, France and England, ignoring the aggression by Russia into Poland while declaring war on Germany is absolutely right.
But during the period of the war that was called the Phoney War, which was the period between the fall of Poland and the invasion of France by the Germans, which was about a six-month period, a war, Stalin was committing aggression against Finland and some of the Baltic countries.
That is, he had opened up a war against Finland.
And the Western powers didn't declare war on the Soviet Union then, even though some of them had vowed to protect Finland.
And so at that time, both Germany and the Western powers, the Allied powers, France and England, were sending weapons to Finland for their defense.
So it was a strange point in history when the Germans and the Italians were sending weapons to Finland at the same time that the French and the English were also sending weapons so that this country could defend themselves against the Soviet Union.
But the Soviet Union was allowed to conduct unprovoked aggression without any serious consequences, whereas Germany, of course, was forced into a war.
This is not to justify Hitler's actions, but it is to say there are a lot of lapses in history that people should understand and learn about before making blanket judgments about all historical events.
But anyway, we've got a caller, Craig.
Yeah, Craf Craig, I believe it's Craig Langley from who I interviewed last week.
Craig, are you there?
Yes, I am right here.
Well, what a pleasure this is.
Huh?
What a pleasure this is to hear from you again.
Oh, thank you.
I've been listening to you guys all night.
Things like a show.
I just want to make a couple comments.
First of all, I am a Catholic, and I just want to clarify the last caller from Pennsylvania.
I mean, at the point about invading Poland, but he brought the idea, he read that the Pope supported Hitler.
He actually did not.
The Pope at the time, Himmler, called him the Catholic Church and the Pope the greatest threat to the Third Reich.
And I also want to make a point anecdotal, but three of the most famous Jews of the time, when the Pope died, I'm just having a brain fart of his name right now, called my airlines to his death.
The famous con Jewish composer, Leonard Bernstein, he he stopped the concert he was given for a minute for money to silence to remember the Pope during from the war.
And also Albert Einstein, he said that he had erased hate the Catholic Church, but the Pope's actions during World War II totally changed how he felt about the church, and he embraced it because of the Pope's actions during the war.
So that's a little information I want to give to that.
But also a caller earlier said that he's little disenfranchised.
Well, if what's going on politically, I believe Pete Sand said the same thing.
I think this is like an internal criticism of the movement, why we're pro-white movement, there's many names for it.
But the caller, Mark, that's not just our enemy.
There's money who support us on our side believe the same thing.
And so it's no wonder the American people don't embrace us.
I was wondering if you guys had a comment on that.
Well, Mark Potok, first of all, the Southern Poverty Law Center is nothing but a racket.
It's a fundraising racket.
And they raise money through fear-mongering and hate-mongering.
And this is how they stay in business.
And there have been newspapers that have exposed the actions of the Southern Poverty and Law Center.
One being the Baltimore Sun, in a fairly recent article, did an editorial on the Southern Poverty Law Center and about their racketeering for donations through fear and hate and so forth.
And then a much older article that was done in Montgomery, Alabama, in the Montgomery Advertiser, which thoroughly exposed their fundraising operation.
But, you know, the media may be starting to catch on that this is sort of a medicine show that the Southern Poverty Law Center puts on.
And of course, everything they say, you know, that everything I've heard them say has been filled with distortions, half-truths, omissions.
When they talk about an increase in hate crime, for instance, they want people to think that that means whites are out there with swastikas and clubs and in black T-shirts beating up poor minorities, when in fact the increase of hate crime is because of Hispanic gangs attacking blacks and other Hispanics.
And yet in the statistics, they are categorized as white.
They're white when they're committing hate crimes.
However, they're Hispanic when they're victims of hate crimes.
You see, it's a double standard.
And so that's one of the problems.
Now, as far as fundraising on the right goes and getting donations from people, well, I can tell you this: that no group on the right has one-tenth of the funds available to the Southern Poverty Law Center or to the Anti-Defamation League or to the NAACP.
There is no right-wing organization that has any sort of resources that these groups had.
If we did have those resources, we would be much more effective in getting our message out.
That's all true, but I was wondering if you guys, Winston or you guys had the had any comments on the idea of people from our side on the right to espouse not only what Potak says, but what the caller earlier said about these neo-pagans, if you will, what you want to call them.
I don't think I understand your question.
I thought you were breaking up on me.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Well, I've gone through circles, and the caller earlier is calling the Bible evil.
That's also many people on our side believe that too on the pro-life city.
Oh, I see.
You know, they say they're on our side.
I have studied some of the comments by people who say they're racialist and they're pagans and that they're atheists and they're racialists.
Well, you know, there's always that spectrum in a belief system.
But what my point is, and what a friend of mine made a very good point, a young man who at the time was in college, he said, you know, these pagan movements and the Nazis, the pagans, and the atheists, no matter what their beliefs, they're nihilists.
They are self-destructive in the end.
And the left has many of these same types of people.
They're nihilists.
They believe that ultimately everything leads to destruction.
And, you know, the Christian perspective on race is that race is a God-made phenomenon.
It's not a man-made phenomenon.
And that if we truly believe in God, we have to truly believe in the divisions that he created and in the races and in the order of nature that he created.
And to go against that is to go against God's design.
So it's much easier for us.
Our view is positive and theirs is negative.
And I think that's, you know, I try to sum up what you're seeing here.
And I don't think we should ever support any group or organization or a movement that leads to a negative conclusion.
And the neo-Nazis and the pagans and the atheists, in the end, they are, you know, they believe whatever they believe in is not going to lead to a productive positive result.
It's negativism.
So, you know, that's my stand on it.
Thank you.
Just wondering about that.
And I just wanted to say that I was looking out the Pope that was mentioned earlier was Pope Pius VII, or the 12th, excuse me.
So, all right.
Trying with a strange call, but have a good night, guys.
You're doing a great job.
Thanks for calling.
Thanks a lot, Craig.
Well, Bill, that was a good call.
That was a great call.
Yeah, they've all been good calls, actually.
They've been good calls.
They've been very entertaining, and this is why our audience listens to us, is that we're not afraid to take on people who disagree with us, and we have callers who bring us intelligent comments and intelligent viewpoints.
It would be good to have somebody on who disagreed with us on a more intelligent basis than what Mark presented.
That was just tedious.
I mean, it was fun to watch him chase his tail.
It was fun to watch him try to dig himself out of a hole that he kept digging himself into.
But after a while, there was just nothing there.
Bill, you exposed him for what he was.
And after a while, he just became tedious.
Well, most atheists are either pseudo-intellectuals or their hatred of God overcomes their sensibilities.
And this is how I know that there truly is a God, is because inevitably the anti-God people work themselves up into a devil fury.
There was a reporter after the death of one of the Soviet leaders during the Reagan era who went to and covered the funeral of one of, I think it was Andropov.
And as he was covering this funeral and the procession and all the pomp and circumstance, he says, I knew from watching an atheist funeral that there truly must be a God because of the absence of spirit there.
You know, that the absence of any sort of self-here, so we have to say goodbye.
Well, we don't have to, but we'd better or people are going to think we're rude.
Good night, everybody.
Good night, folks.
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