TRANS SHOOTER COVERUP? examines the February 11, 2024 Tumblr Ridge school shooting, where nine died—allegedly by a transgender suspect whose identity police refuse to confirm despite an uncle’s claim. The episode links this to past incidents involving trans individuals, citing mental health risks and gun access, then pivots to BART’s tall fare gates cutting crime and vandalism while criticizing leftist opposition to stop-and-frisk. Lisa Elizabeth joins to dissect the "dating recession," with only 46% of high school seniors ever dating, blaming online obsession over societal collapse rather than conservative moral revival. Dating apps like Hinge are dismissed as superficial tools fueling unrealistic expectations, while traditional institutions—eroded by tech—fail to rebuild real-world connections. [Automatically generated summary]
I've maintained this position for years, and no one believes me when I say it.
I do think that we kind of are the gypsies of conservative media in a lot of ways.
We're constantly on the move.
We're constantly stripping copper wire from things.
We're constantly putting cars up on cinder blocks.
This is just kind of how we operate.
It is true.
There's something kind of bizarre about Timcast is we just have a lot of cars for some reason and they're like random cars.
I feel like it's kind of a gypsy thing, but it's very gypsy that we're always, at least me, I'm always in a new studio.
There's really something to be said about that, but we are back.
As you can probably tell if you're at Timcast diehard, we're in the inverted world studio, which is quite interesting.
We're trying to make it work potentially for the Timcast News Daily Live show.
Probably collaborate with them.
I'm not entirely sure how it's going to flush out.
I just know we're in here today, and it's really some exciting stuff.
And we have all sorts of news stories for you today.
Obviously, the one that you probably saw in the title, our lead today, was some rather tragic news out of Canada.
In Canada, there was a, what the Telegraph called a gun person, which I think when you hear that, you kind of know what's going on, school shooting, and then they say gun person.
You know, I'm not much of a math lead here, but I think you can put two and two together to determine what went down up in Canada.
But it is very sad to see, obviously.
We have a few more stories that we're going to get to.
Obviously, I want to touch on something rather interesting.
In the Bay Area, the Bay Area Rapper Transportation, BART is what they call it.
They installed these new gates.
So I don't know if you live somewhere that has public transportation or like a subway, but you scan your card or maybe token or whatever you got.
And the gate opens and you enter and you can walk onto the subway platform.
Well, in the Bay Area, they noticed a lot of people were obviously evading the fair.
They were skipping the fair.
They're jumping over the gate, going under, whatever.
And so they installed these really tall ones that sort of blocked people from jumping the gate, jumping the turnstile.
And there were some pretty interesting findings that occurred.
Not just, they didn't just recoup money from people skipping fares.
They found out a few more things.
So I want to walk through that.
I think it actually says quite a bit about society.
We're in the midst of a dating recession.
There's an interesting graph doing the rounds.
A professor from Virginia put it out.
The Wheatley Institute for Family Studies, I believe, collected the data showing how less than half of high school seniors have ever gone out on a date.
Pretty wacky and wild stuff.
So we're getting to that.
We have a few more stories when you get to, if we have time.
But first, I think we should lead with this one.
This is obviously tragic news.
This is out of Canada.
This is just a headline here that I wanted to grab.
We're not going to really use this article very much, but this is from the Telegraph, the headline they went with.
Gun person and dress kills nine in school shooting.
Dozens also injured in Canada's worst school massacre for 30 years.
And the school shooter described as, quote, gun person and address killed nine people in a remote part of Canada on Tuesday.
This was at a town in British Columbia called Tumblr Ridge.
Again, seeing as this was potentially there, you know, the individual alleged to be the shooter was trans.
And so the fact that it's called Tumblr Ridge, I think is quite something there.
You know, it's neither here nor there.
This was from Juno News.
One sec, one sec.
This is the exclusive from Juno News.
This is obviously a publication up in Canada.
Exclusive family confirms identity of trans Tumblr Ridge school shooting.
Now, I'm not going to say the person's name.
You'll probably see it red here again, just because this is still alleged.
The police have not confirmed anything.
This is why people are speculating that there could be a cover-up afoot.
So, Juno News put out this piece.
This was, I believe, this morning, February 11th.
Yeah, this would have been early this morning.
The individual alleged to be the shooter in the deadly attack at Tumblr Ridge Secondary School in British Columbia has been identified by a close family member.
They spoke directly with this gentleman.
Again, I'm not going to read names here, just again, it's unfortunate, but it is the way it is.
We have to insulate ourselves from some of these people and some of the potential lawfare they may engage in.
Juno News has said that this person, they talked to this person's uncle, who A, confirmed that the suspect was transgender, the person being suspected here was transgender, and that they were responsible for the shooting.
And so, once the people got a hold of the name of the shooter here, they immediately started digging.
They found this YouTube channel belonging to the person again being identified as the shooter by the public.
This is kind of a precarious situation because, again, all signs seem to point towards this person being the shooter.
I think everyone's kind of running with that.
It's just very kind of obvious.
I mean, we have this, and we also had another piece, the Western Journal, again, a local paper in British Columbia coming out, and fellow classmates identified this person, this John Doe, as the shooter.
But, you know, until the police come out and decide that it's time to identify this person, we can't.
The press are kind of tied.
Our hands are kind of tied.
It is what it is.
That's what's so crazy about this.
And you have to ask yourself, I mean, the police department in Canada, we're going to start to see, from what I've been told, the police department in British Columbia and Tumblr Ridge here.
There's not quite the incentive for them to come out and, again, identify a transgender person as the shooter.
They're under tremendous pressure right now to not let that name be released.
It could be a potential cover-up.
I don't know.
I mean, I think we give them to the end of the day, certainly, to identify this person that all signs are pointing to.
In the shooting, it's worth noting with this Tumblr Ridge shooting.
The shooter did commit suicide at the conclusion of the shooting.
So they killed, I believe, right now.
Oh, this piece got shrunk down.
They're suspecting about 22 people were shot.
And let's see, does it say in the Telegraph article?
They killed nine, but I believe also an additional 20 or so were shot.
And then the shooter took their own life.
His own life, again, going with the suspected identification that this creates.
So I guess the question is, what's the implication?
Another trans shooting, if that's the case.
I mean, not terribly surprising anymore.
We already saw in Nashville that the Covenant, it was Covenant Presbyterian, was shot by a transgender individual.
This one was interesting because it was female to male.
Now, typically with shootings writ large, it's conducted by males.
So that one kind of took people, three people for a loop, is that it was a woman, as a woman trying to, you know, cosplay as a man that committed the shooting.
And that was quite jarring to people.
I don't think people could anticipate that women, let alone young women, would be capable of such evil.
But that's just the reality.
I mean, when you start pumping your body full of these chemicals, your brain goes on the fridge.
There's really no question about that.
And then we had another shooting in Minneapolis.
This would have been last year.
Again, it was a transgender individual committed the shooting.
They were outside of the church.
It was a Catholic church in Minneapolis, and there were students from the local Catholic school.
They were in the sanctuary of the church for a midday mass, and the shooter shot through the windows, again, killing children.
It was children.
And again, this one appears to be more of your sort of conventional school shooting, I guess you would say, for lack of a better word, in the sense of a student went to school and shot his classmates.
That's something that I think is more typical.
So I lost the tabs.
Serge.
Lost the tabs.
Oh, I see her here.
Yeah.
I don't know what happened here.
Here I can grab it.
Yeah, there you go.
Sorry, we're just working out some of the kinks being this new studio.
So I wanted to get to some of the commentary here.
This is what's kind of interesting.
I caught a lot of flack.
I don't remember if I said it on this show or if I said it on IRL or if I said it on pop culture crisis.
I said it somewhere and I remember catching flack for it, but I believe this is the correct take.
This is the correct take.
The transgender epidemic seems to be more of a rural phenomenon.
So we have this kind of idea on the right, especially on like the new right, you would say, where it's all these transgenders are like in San Francisco and New York City.
You know, these blue-haired, liberal, you know, transgender people are in these big blue cities.
And the flyover areas, right, like the rural America, the red America is insulated from it.
And everyone's like these tough, you know, country, country guys or whatever.
But you really don't see that.
You really don't see that.
Like we're out in West Virginia.
The further you go into West Virginia, the rural areas specifically, the poor areas objectively, you start to see more dysgenia, actually.
It's actually quite something.
You do see more children that are just androgynous.
They're like very fat.
And you can't really tell what gender they are because they're so fat.
And I'm not saying these things to like clown or dunk on these people.
This is just a legitimate analysis of what's going on.
Is if you go to like a Walmart, again, you see very androgynous young people with their hair dyed, you know, some sort of toxic color.
Similar to animals, how if they have brighter colors, that's typically signifying that they're toxic.
You sort of see the same thing.
And this actually seems to be sort of an issue in what you would say flyover country.
Again, I'm not really using this as a pejorative because I also come from flyover country.
I'm from the suburbs of Memphis, Tennessee.
So this isn't me coming down as some coastal elite.
This is me just trying to identify the situation is which I think typically the transgender stuff they're raised in like conservative households and then they want to rebel against these households and they get exposed to some of the most extreme stuff on the internet telling them that their parents are crazy.
That's quite common.
I lived in Manhattan.
You don't really see many transgenders.
The people there are actually quite normal looking writ large.
It's when you go to, again, like the poor, lower class and rural areas.
That's when you really see a high proportion of blue hair, obesity, transgenderism.
It's just the reality.
It's just the reality.
It's a uniquely kind of flyover, which you would say flyover state issue.
So this was a commentary, this poster here, Iliqui Novis.
I don't know too much about him, but this commentary, I think, was quite pertinent here.
And he's kind of echoing what I'm sort of arguing.
Again, some of the language he uses, it could be fairly offensive if you're from the rural areas of the United States and Canada.
But let's kind of read between the lines of what he's trying to say here.
This is clearly a right-wing person.
Provincial hicks from Flyover states or areas, truning out due to porn and going insane is such an epidemic that it's going to, it's soon going to, entirely change the popular conception of what trans means.
And so yes, I mean again, you're seeing, like many Minnesota Minneapolis, you're seeing like a kind of a brand, but with young people.
That's what I'm trying to get at.
I mean we, we do know these blue-haired freaks exist in cities um, like 30 and up, but young, like teenagers, that are trans.
Sorry, my apology, i'm still trying to get over a little bit of a sickness that I had last week.
Again, this seems to be really at a high volume in these smaller towns because these kids are typically more atomized.
And the small town culture is very homogenous, which is a good thing.
But if you have any sort of differentiating factor, like if you, again, have low testosterone or something, you're going to go online.
And I hate to, it's like a boomer take, but it's just true is typically, you know, that'll lead to porn usage.
And then I think it's kind of a foregone conclusion at this point that uh, if you don't really have a sense of self-control um, you will just trune out by watching a ton of porn.
I don't think there's really a question about that anymore.
Um again, some people are able.
I'm just gonna speak frankly here um, especially because I don't think any children are watching the show.
But I do want to be like uh, sort of respectful here.
Um, a lot of.
I think the majority of people that like watch porn regularly, like you, should just quit, like the the, the the benefits on your life when you quit pornography.
It's really dramatic um, for one, you just like talk to women a lot more.
There's no question about that.
Uh, but most people like, when they are intake and like ingesting porn, they're kind of watching like fairly normal stuff.
But there's a proportion of people who have a certain personality type in which to get their rocks off, so to speak.
They have to take in more and more extreme types of pornography and the next thing, you know, you're literally watching like, like trans, like porn, these sorts of things um, and this is like an example of that, I mean, where someone just goes down the rabbit hole um, and they just end up like a total freak.
Um again, we this is a being alleged, this is the person, but uh, the Telegraph is indicating that um, you know, this was potentially someone.
That was what's the word you would use, gender divergent.
Trans Ideology Threat00:05:06
Maybe I need, like a cough drop or something.
It's just dry.
I don't know what's going on.
I think i'm allergic to uh, trans ideology um, but it's just, it's so true.
That's exactly what's going on here and again.
It's like it.
It runs counter to this idea that we have on the right that like, just by virtue of being from a rural area, you're gonna be like salts of the earth, conservative Maga.
That's not true.
I I think anybody from a rural area can tell you that that there is a very high prevalence of people that are freaks um, in rural areas, that are atomized, that Are just caught up on some weird crusade that they have.
And especially in smaller towns.
I mean, this sort of phenotype is just very common.
You can just see it.
It's specifically affecting young white kids.
Again, there was this suspicion that potentially a lot of white kids that are becoming trans is because they need to adopt an ideology that would give them a victim card.
And so that could potentially explain the social contagion aspect of transgender.
I think fundamentally it really is a mental illness.
I mean, I know this isn't like a nuclear hot take anymore.
This is like a very obvious, Captain Obvious take.
You're on Rumble.
Of course, you're going to say something like this.
But I really do think we just have to institutionalize these people to get them help so they don't kill themselves or kill other people.
I mean, because it's just kind of an inevitability that that's going to happen.
So we had another interesting.
So again, with this person that's suspected of committing the shooting by the public, we don't know.
We don't know for sure until the police confirm, but this is what people are circulating the Reddit account that's been deleted.
One, what's interesting is that Reddit account was actually highlighted in a Matt Walsh tweet like four years ago, which is quite interesting.
So I don't know how deep the story really goes.
But this one, good take here from Pub Wanghaff.
That's his at.
He's another A non poster on Twitter.
He's quite good.
He says, I guess I'm of the crazy opinion that the government should pull the IPs of everyone in R slash trans guns and arrest them and put them in psych wards.
Again, yes, this is another take I had where this take I'm objectively correct on that the trans preeminence in rural areas is kind of like you're just seeing it.
And so it's kind of a theory.
This one I'm just objectively correct on is that if you have a mental illness, you should not be given a gun.
I think there's really no question about that.
And you know, a lot of people are going to say, well, they're going to expand the definition of mental illness to include right-wing.
That's the case with every law.
What if they expand the definition of murder to mean you're angry at someone and then they arrest you?
It's like you can't build your governance strategy around what happens if the left gets in power.
Just don't let them get back in power.
Govern so effectively that they don't come back into power.
It's like this loser mentality.
We go on and on and on about it on the show.
It's like, well, what if the left takes over and then they do this?
It's like they're going to do it anyway.
Do you really think if we, again, if we take guns away from transgender people, what?
Oh, what are they going to do?
They're going to take our guns?
They've been doing that anyway for the last 60 years.
Like, I mean, hello?
Like, I feel like I'm a crazy.
I feel like I was crazy.
When I said that take, I said, transgenders should not be given access to guns because they will kill themselves or kill someone with it at like a 40% rate.
And people were like, Tate's a gun grabber.
This is why they call us Goyam, I think fundamentally.
I think this is why they call us Goyam.
Like, we're actually trying to protect people.
We're trying to commit a serious, implement a serious policy, a policy that completely undercuts the left, completely undercuts the trans ideology.
That again, fundamentally is helping these people.
I don't want them to die.
That's sad.
That's tragic if they die.
This is a policy that is right-wing by every standard, that is just beneficial at every level.
It will save lives.
And most importantly, undercuts the leftist ideology that's sort of the ruling classes aligned with.
And the reaction is you're grabbing guns of what?
A mentally ill person in a dress, that's whose Second Amendment right the founders had in mind when they were implementing this, was that crazy people were going to be allowed to give them guns.
If you go look through, again, every early ruling on the Second Amendment, it was very widely understood that crazy people shouldn't be given firearms.
I think everyone kind of understood that, that people that were not right in the head, that should probably be in a mental institution, shouldn't be given firearms.
There's really no question about that.
So, this is the correct, this is just the objectively correct take here from Prup Wanghalf: is that everyone in R slash trans guns should be put in sidecards.
I think that's broadly true.
I think that's broadly true.
Might be a bit of hyperbole there.
But again, these are just deeply unstable people who fantasize about coming after you.
That's like they want to kill, they want to kill you.
Again, Charlie Kirk, go look at the rhetoric that was used following it.
Maintenance Matters00:06:35
So, really, just some tremendous stuff here.
I wanted to get to this story.
This one's quite interesting.
This was from this is data from BART, the Bay Area rapid transport.
You may be saying, Wow, this is boring.
This is really boring.
I promise there's going to be a racial undertone to this, so stay tuned.
And I know that's what you guys love.
That's what this show is really all about in many ways.
So, take a look here.
I'm going to try and cover this quite concisely.
Corrective maintenance.
So, this is like let's see, hours spent on patron-related corrective maintenance within the paid area of stations reduced significantly after next year.
Gen, fairgate, and GAFG installations.
So, okay, what are we looking at?
That's the question.
Well, like I said at the top of the show, Bay Area Rapid Transport, they replaced their old subway gates and they've installed new long ones that you can't jump over.
It's like effectively eliminated fare jumping, fare hopping, gate, whatever you call it.
People aren't able to steal from the subway anymore.
They have to pay now.
It's very difficult to slip through the gate.
And what they found, so obviously they had data, you know, that, oh, look how much money.
So, BART's new tall fare gates are bringing in an additional $10 million a year in revenue that would have been lost to fair evasion.
That's the obvious benefit.
But take a look at this.
What does this say about American society?
Maintenance.
So, this would be like things broken, people barfing all over the place, defecating, just general maintenance, cleaning, these sorts of things.
The blue is before they put the gates up.
Look how many hours the municipal BART was having to spend on maintenance.
I mean, countless hours.
And then after, it completely drops.
Completely drops.
They're barely having to spend any time on maintenance.
What's the implication here?
It's hard to ask yourself, maybe put two and two together.
Is they've eliminated, they filtered a space.
They filtered away people that are demonstrating an extremely anti-social behavior, which is gate jumping, jumping the fare, stealing, effectively.
They've created a space that effectively selects for people that are willing to pay, that are not willing to commit theft.
And what came out of that is a, again, fairly clean place.
People aren't going around breaking things.
You have to ask yourself, this is kind of the whole idea between a high-trust society versus a low-trust society: you have to filter out some people who are just not capable of living in a high-trust society.
This is a great example.
I mean, this is hello, this is it right here.
Again, BART, before they cracked down on fare evaders, they were having to spend countless hours maintaining, you know, committing maintenance, fixing things, mopping things up.
Afterwards, barely any time all across town.
It's just remarkable.
It really is just remarkable.
It's like, again, if you're just willing to be mean to a very small proportion of the population, which being mean in this case is just not letting them steal, you create actually a very pleasant place.
There's not much destruction going on.
So this is a pretty concise post here from this poster, Meatball Times.
I don't know too much about this person, but they have a great take here.
And it really says it all.
Wait, this graph is crazy.
BART installed anti-fare hopping gates and the amount of station maintenance and cleanup they had to do went to basically zero.
Strong evidence that the poor condition of public transport is fairly easy to fix, caused by a very small group of people.
This is just objectively true.
This is what people have been saying for years: is you know, you have this contingent of people online, you know, these YMB types, these people that are like, oh, you know, we should have trains everywhere, the high-speed rail, and we should have walkable cities, and, you know, like it should be this, you know, great, we should be like Europe, that's our, or like Japan.
But they always say these things, and it's like, sure, yeah, that would be nice, right, if we had that.
Why can't we have that?
And they'll post a picture of like, you know, Cincinnati or St. Louis before the dawn of the highway system, the advent, oh, sorry, for the advent of the highway system and how they actually had these like very dense urban centers that, again, resembled Europe in a lot of ways.
And they were voluntarily destroyed to make way for these interstates.
I'm not necessarily saying I think that's a good thing.
I think it's a tragic thing.
But I don't really blame the people at the time who wanted to get out of the cities because you had to ask yourself what was going on during that era.
What was going on at that time?
Why were people on the drop of a hat willing to just bulldoze their city and move out to the burbs and ensure they had highways so they could still get into work?
Because the crime was out of control.
And there were riots.
It was mainly due to like black Americans.
Black Americans had flooded into these cities from the Great Migration.
But they just started rioting.
They started rioting.
This was during the civil rights era.
There was riots everywhere.
A lot of these neighborhoods that they moved into just slowly got worse.
Became more unlivable.
And that's what sort of caused white flights.
A lot of these people moved out of the cities.
They moved to suburbs and they built these car-dependent suburbs because they just weren't willing to risk it walking around a city center at night.
And when you look at the way our cities are now, can you really blame people for wanting to continue that, for just preferring to live in a suburb with all the conveniences and comforts and not having to worry about, again, these sort of street-level interactions?
No one wants to be the next Dorina Zarutska.
There's no question about that.
Oh, man.
Chest is hurting a little bit.
So, where was I?
Yeah, so this is why we can't have, you know, trains, these high-speed rail.
We can't have these walkable cities because, again, people are so petrified at being racist that they don't want to sort of implement the laws that need to be had.
And even people on the right don't have the stomach for it because a lot of people on the right are still hung up on the principles stuff.
Character Synergy in Games00:15:31
I mean, I think stop and frisk is a great example.
Stop and frisk is a policy that works quite well.
In New York City, it completely tanked crime.
And if you're someone on the right who gets queasy over stop and frisk, you have to ask yourself, okay, well, who's the main opposition to stop?
That's always a good way to parse a policy.
If there's a policy that is overwhelmingly hated by leftists, it's probably a good policy.
Generally speaking, it's probably a good policy.
Stop and frisk is something that is absolutely despised by leftists.
And so that's that, I think that's where you can kind of analyze.
Okay, is stop and frisk this nefarious policy that the New World Order is trying to crack down on Americans with?
Or is it a policy that was implemented by white Americans who are just kind of tired of obvious criminals kind of not being confronted by the police?
I think it's the latter.
I think that's probably why Stop and Frisk was implemented by Rudy Giuliani and all of them.
And it worked quite well.
It worked quite dramatically.
So there's really no question that these sorts of policies work.
I need to grab this water real quick.
I am suffering.
Bear with me.
Oh, I forgot to bring it over here to my desk.
My new Timcast desk.
My throat is just like on fire right now.
Pause.
You guys like that?
You like me slurping like that?
Do you like me sipping on what is this?
Icelandic water.
Wow, things are really getting whack and wild over here at Timcast Studios.
Well, with that, what other stories do I have for you guys?
This one's really whack and wild.
This is where I think we're going to bring in Lisa.
Lisa, we are.
The great Lisa, Lisa Elizabeth.
You obviously saw her holding it down for me last week or two weeks ago when I was out of town.
So I went out of town.
I got back in town.
I was back in this house for like two days and then I got like one of the weirdest sicknesses in my life.
Do you want me to go into detail about my sickness?
Is that something you guys would be into?
Make sure you include the black mold.
Yeah, I don't know if I can include it for legal reasons, but all I will say is I had this weird, like, my throat fell apart.
It was bizarre.
It was like I had suds or something.
It was really something sight to behold.
And it's still just like lingering.
I mean, it's just like, gosh, they're attacking me.
I think I'm being attacked by nefarious forces, maybe outside of my control.
I'm not entirely sure.
We're going to bring Lisa in.
I want to cover this story, give you guys a quick intro of what we're going to talk about.
This is Brad Wilcox.
He's a professor at UVA, fellow at the American Enterprise Institute.
I think, look, this is just a great post from the Family Studies Wheatley Institute.
We're in the midst of a dating recession.
High school dating has fallen almost 50% since 1980.
In 2024, a mere 46% of high school seniors reported ever going out on dates.
So as you can see here, the kids are not doing all right.
They really aren't.
It's really, you know, where are the hoes at?
It's a very salient question for a lot of young guys right now.
Half, under half of guys have never been on a date.
It's really not good to see.
So we're going to bring in Lisa to discuss this.
But first, before we do, I got to read a quick ad read for you guys.
We got to pay the lights.
Got to keep the lights on around here.
So let's see what we got.
This is the great.
No, this is the wrong ad read.
This is the wrong ad read.
It's whatever.
Let's just bring Lisa in.
All right.
I can do it.
All right.
Because you can't see this screen.
It's just easier if I do it.
Let's see.
Lisa, can you hear me?
Oh, yeah, I can't see you, but is that fine?
Hi.
It's not the same way you think it's set up, date.
You have to give me that back over here, unfortunately.
Oh.
There you go.
Just send it back to me.
I'm not on yet, right?
That?
Yeah, you are.
Then I can't see her.
I guess not.
Okay.
It's unfortunate.
It's okay.
She looks good.
All right.
What's up, Lisa?
Can you hear me?
Yeah, I can hear you.
I'm fine.
I just'm very tired and I'm in my jammies.
Fair enough.
I can't see you, but I'm sure you look great.
Serge is looking at you.
Serge said you look great, so I think super in good business.
I heard this here.
I wanted to bring you in.
I was looking at this graph.
The Wheatley Institute put out this graph.
I love a good graph.
Less than half of 12th graders, seniors in high school go on dates in 2024, 46%.
There's a lot of factors going on here.
I think what we see, we see numbers like there's like a sex recession where like, oh, you know, the amount of, you know, people who have never had sex has gone up dramatically.
And a lot of conservatives have this tendency to celebrate this, which they're saying, well, look, this is an indication that, you know, the Zoomers are super base and they're returning to religious values, Christian values.
But when you scratch the surface, it's not really what's going on.
This isn't a sex recession, so to speak, because of like prudishness of like a good trait, like I want to save myself for marriage, which is an objectively great thing.
It's people that just don't go outside very much.
And this is another data point that we're seeing where less than half of 12th graders go on dates.
People just aren't engaging with the world much.
And, you know, you want to blame these kids a little bit, but when you look around at the society that they've grown up in and that they're inheriting, I can see why they're failing to launch.
I can see why they're having a tough time sort of getting inculcated in the way the world works because a lot of these things are so broken.
I mean, the dating apps just alone are such a hellscape that it's kind of hard to just completely rail on these kids.
But I don't know.
What is your take?
What are you seeing?
I mean, I don't want 12th graders dating anyway, but when they do the 12 graders I knew that were like were 12th grade's what a senior?
Yeah, so that's fine.
But like, I don't, I don't, I just don't think that they go outside and know how to interact with people.
They do all of their interacting online.
There isn't a culture of like courting or dating or anything.
They do go up and hook up.
I mean, I live right across the street from a school and you've got sixth graders talking about things that are wildly inappropriate, like disgusting things.
I hear them as they walk by the house.
So it's not like they're not, I don't, I don't think that there's, it's not like they're not dating, right?
Like they don't go on official dates, sure.
I think they go and hang out and play video games and do whatever.
But I also think that like girls, see, it used to be like this.
We used to live in little, small little towns, right?
You would grow up in your small little town and the hot high school, you know, cheerleader would date the football player.
And then the art students would date each other.
And like everybody would kind of like fit their natural link.
And those are the people that they grew up with that have the same values as they did.
Now, as we get into like apps and everybody's online and even they're playing video games with not their friends around the corner, they're playing video games to strangers in another country or in another state.
So what they're doing is like they're not, they have a whole world out there of available options.
So the guy that would have normally hooked up with the seven hottest cheerleader in the neighborhood, right now he's looking for the 12 and the girl, the same, is looking for the hot guy in, I don't know, Vegas that's going to like fly her out and do something.
And they're not aware of what their options, like their real options are.
Women are constantly overvaluing the way that their appearances.
Like a five is a five, guys.
You're average and your gross.
There's no way that you're a 10.
People just don't have a good understanding of what reality is anymore because it's expanded so much outside of what would traditionally be like their neighborhood or their city that they grew up in.
I think that's a bigger problem is that we're so what is globalized?
You know what I mean?
I think that's actually an excellent point is that social media, the internet at large, but specifically social media inflates people's expectations of just about everything.
I mean, this is why you hear that people use the term like a dopamine detox.
People need to take a detox from dopamine because again, you're just being this, these social media systems are built to game the human mind.
They want to reward you.
They want to reward you as much as possible, release dopamine.
So you keep using the app.
Funny that you say that real quick.
There was something else I just saw on TV that kids of the 90s who played video games, the way their brains are wired differently than kids who play video games today.
And they're saying it's because like with Mario Brothers, you didn't have like a plan.
You like had three chances and then you died and then you had to start all over.
So your brain, and then like Zelda, or I never played Zelda, but like in Zelda, you would have, you didn't have a map or arrows to tell you where to go.
And so you had to memorize all that stuff, right?
You had to fail and then retry.
These kids don't have any grip on like what fit, what even in video games, what it's like to fail and then have to, you know, figure your way out and find a new path.
And it's the same thing with dating.
They don't have to be rejected and fail and ask a girl out and try because that's not the way that they've ever been, they've ever been in the world.
Even like on Instagram, you'd like a girl's pictures and then she'll slide into your DMs.
They don't have to like, they don't have to try.
They don't have to fail at anything.
So it's a, it's a big problem.
And not just in the dating level, like just in how their brains are going to be overall and how they think of the world.
Yeah, because like to your original point where, okay, you know, people are over-inflating their value.
I think specifically women, I think a lot of men realize they're chopped and they kind of accept that.
But I think a lot of women are expecting top shelf guys.
There's just not enough of them.
That's like, there's not enough top shelf guys to go around.
But I know there's a guy in our industry who basically look like he has Down syndrome and he will only pull hot chicks.
And like, you know, he thinks he's worth those hot chicks.
Okay, fine.
And the girls go for him.
Yeah.
They're better looking than he is.
But I think everybody does it.
Women, especially, though, you see women going around saying that they're a 10.
Like when I was growing up, it was, you know, you were looked down upon if you were conceited.
Oh, that girl's conceited.
We don't want to like pay attention to her.
Now it's like a badge of honor to say you're a 10 when you're actually like a four.
I just never seen anything like it.
Yeah, you watch these Manosphere podcasts.
Like, you know, you watch Myron's show or you watch like the whatever podcast.
And it's like literally, you know, I'm not trying to be mean, you know, but these are not lookers.
They're not tens, certainly, but they self-identify as such.
They're below average, like way below average.
And I love that clavicular.
He actually brought some data to the table.
He gave him an analysis.
He said, look, okay, your jaw is a bit wonky.
You have a recess maxima, these sorts of things.
He like broke down specifically because I think a lot of us could see that and tell them, but something about getting hit in the face with some like hard data, I think that does something to the psyche, or maybe they don't go around identifying as tens anymore.
I don't know.
But I think this delusion occurs.
It's downstream from something that I think social media has plagued almost all of us with, is this idea of like main character syndrome where everyone thinks they're the main character and people don't really have a sense of empathy anymore.
People don't have a sense that other people around you also have their own independent lives with pretty much every thought that you've had for the most part, every level of depth that you have, et cetera, et cetera.
Because again, social media just turns everyone into a celebrity.
You have a page with your name on it and people are following you.
They're interested in what you have to say or what you have to post and these sorts of things.
And I think it creates this sense that you're the main character.
And well, I'm the main character, so I should have the highest standards possible.
And I think this makes people quite miserable.
This is why people overextend themselves financially because they need to have a nicer car.
They need to go on a more, you know, exorbitant, exorbitant vacation.
Exotic vacation, I guess, would be a better adjective to use there.
Because again, this is what they see online.
This is what other people are achieving.
Because again, I'm the main character.
I should be living some sort of similar lifestyle.
This is, I think, why you're seeing the death of like middle-class aesthetics.
Like you, you know, people talk about like a tacky Christmas and then, you know, it was like all your family decor and like, you know, everything was a bit kitschy, but it was like nice and it felt homely.
You don't see that anymore.
And instead, people are like, everything's gold or like it looks like a Pinterest board and there's no like soul to it.
Well, I think part of the reason is there's a bit of that from like the Instagram decor stuff, right?
And but, but as somebody who literally does interior design and my husband sells real estate, so like I'm and I used to.
So I mean, a lot of people say, most people live like absolute freaking pigs.
Most people wouldn't even have any idea on how to decorate or aesthetics.
But yeah, but they want everything.
They have this idea that like it's kind of like the people who want to be old money.
Right.
They want to look old money, but like they have no idea what that means or what that conversation is even they're like Turkish.
It's like, well some people usually go on some people.
I'm like they're from Cape Con and like dude your last name's like Gutierrez.
What are we doing here?
By nationality almost what your house is going to look like.
I promise.
But no, I just think that like there's something missing from our culture.
And I wanted to, I want you to be careful about like the words that we're using, right?
Like empathy, because empathy can be weaponized, right?
Like we don't need to be more empathetic to these people.
We need them to be grounded more in reality about what your worth is and what other people's worth is.
And then, and then like, and be okay with that.
We need like everybody kind of needs to be, I used to say like, there's nothing wrong with being ordinary.
There's something actually beautiful about being ordinary.
Not everybody needs to be a 10.
You know, people that aren't 10 serve purposes in this world.
Like you have to be okay.
And I'm not saying like, don't strive to be your best or don't strive to make your house beautiful and like an Instagram thing, right?
But like that can't be your focus.
You should strive to have better character and to be a good person and those type of things.
That's why like with the looks maxing, I kind of get it.
Like I think it was Joan Rivers who said, I love this.
Like I heard somebody railing against plastic surgery the other day.
And I'm like, eh, she was like, I hear all these women saving for a new car.
And she was like, why are you saving for a new car?
Save for a new face.
She goes, she goes, nobody cares about an ugly woman getting out of a great car.
They care about a pretty woman getting out in an ugly car.
And it's true.
So with clavicular and these young kids like trying to look smacks, like, yeah, you should try to make your, you do, there is such a thing as pretty privilege.
Sure, there is such a thing as like you get, you, you get more attention if you're thin than if you're fat.
That's all true.
But like what we're doing is everything is so superficial.
It's all on the surface, but you really need to, we really need to change the message to be is perfect your character.
Try to be the best friend that you can be.
Try to be the best parent that you can be.
Try to be the best wife that you can be.
These people are, everybody's so selfish in it.
Like, what is it for me?
And how can I look the best or people interpret me as the best, but it's always on these, like on the superficial level.
Yeah.
I mean, there's two things I want to hit.
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The first one, yeah, I want to steel man, the looks maxers, because they receive so much vitriol from the conservative space.
But I think all they're really doing at the end of the day is they realize that because of a combination of chemicals, diet, environment, et cetera, people like now are just uglier than before.
I think there's really no question about that.
If you go look at like how men looked in the 40s or 50s.
So I think most of these looks maxers are really just trying to like restore our looks or our like our sort of like appearances.
I think there's something too.
Like I said, I think there's some merit to that.
All those things are true, but we should also, you know, that can't be the only component.
You know what I mean?
Like, I think it goes into the dating.
Like, you know, these boys are swiping on Instagram, looking at the hottest girls they can, but they're like, they live in New Jersey and the girls are in California, Miami, Milan.
I don't know, you know, and they're, they're not getting into relationships and dating because they're not looking at their available options that are in their appropriate range right in front of their faces.
Well, I think that's why that's why people say looks maxing clavicular, for example, would be like the natural extent of the black pill is guys that have said, no matter how much I invest in myself, so to speak, or my personality, these sorts of personal traits, that won't be enough to attract a partner.
I think the best way I could do that would just be by maximizing my appearance.
And like to a degree, you kind of understand where they're coming from because you look at data like this where half of seniors have never even gone on a date.
I'm sure a lot of those are probably weird people.
But I think there's this, what I'm noticing as a young person is that a lot of really good people, a lot of people that would be a great husband or a lot of people that would be a great wife can't find each other.
I think that's like the biggest issue.
And to a degree, yeah, I agree.
Like maybe they're on social media and they're like busy, hung up on people that aren't in their league anyway.
But I also think even on a day-to-day level, there's just not the institutions anymore that could facilitate potential like romantic interactions.
Like there's churches are very old now.
You know, schools, like after college, you really have no shot of like being in a room with all people your own age.
Like a lot of these traditional ways people met each other are gone.
And then also the country's getting older.
Like the average age of the an American now, I think it's 39.
And when boomers are growing up, it was like 28.
So you're just not running into as many young people as well.
This is why, I mean, not to go onto the birth rate thing, but this is why when your birth rate declines, it kind of snowballs because then there's less young people meeting each other.
They're just interacting with more old people.
So there's a lot of compounding factors.
What did you guys do in your generation?
I'm way older than you.
What did you do in your generation?
Like we were, you know, seniors in college, in high school, going to like the bowling alley.
Like we didn't have cell phones or anything.
We had like home phone lines.
And we would say, okay, all of our friends on Friday, we'd be like, all of our friends are going to meet up at the bowling alley night for cosmic bowling or whatever it was.
And there would be like, you know, 40, 50 kids.
And then you would have to be forced into like, oh, that one's cute or this one's whatever.
And then you'd be forced into interacting with them.
And then you'd have to plan a date so you could see them again.
I think the digital age is ruining a lot of that for us.
I don't know what you guys did in your generation to meet people, but that's, that's how we went on dates.
Yeah, I had a weird sort of instance because I grew, I mean, I'm still devout Christian, but I grew up in the devout Christian environment.
And the church I was at was very young.
And so, you know, you would meet a lot, you would meet like you would go on dates with people from like your youth group and that sort of thing.
But I think that's actually kind of an exception because A, if you're 20 or 25 and you're trying to find a girlfriend, you shouldn't look at his youth group.
You go to jail.
I know they have like, you know, the Catholics have adult, young adult meetings and stuff like that.
Yeah.
As someone that like, so I went from youth group where it was like, it was good to these like young adult events at churches.
The young adult ones, there's like a lot of weird people in them.
And I can, I mean, I'm a Protestant.
My Catholic friends say the same thing.
Like, it's just like I'm typically, unless you're in a major city like New York or D.C., these young adult groups are going to be like really weird.
There'd be like a lot of weird people there.
It's, it's really just, I can't provide like too much insight into like.
I think we just need to take away everybody's technology and force them to go out.
Like talking to an Uber driver about like electric cars and them like making us only have electric cars and nobody being able to drive.
And like, sure, maybe that's like eventually done.
But I really do.
Like, who just shut off all technology for a year and see what happens?
I bet you the birth rate would skyrocket.
It could.
I guess the question is like, how, with or without the internet, how do we get young people to meet each other again?
Because again, like once they're not engaging in the workplace, I think every friend of mine I know that's my age will tell you they're the youngest person in their workplace by quite a long margin.
The churches, again, are just very old now, unless again, unless you're in like a major city or you have some sort of exception near you.
Actually, I think what's what's common, this discourse went around on Twitter is the churches that reliable, that have like a reliably young congregation are like these mega churches, these like big box mega churches with the LED screens.
And I've found anecdotally that's true.
So what you would hear was like a lot of people would go to those churches, a lot of guys would go in those churches for like a year or two to find a wife and then vacate back to like a more traditional church, which is kind of an interesting strategy, I think.
Who dated guys from those type of churches and they were all like, they were all not real Christian.
Like I would think that you shouldn't be Christian, you know, like they were rough.
That's why you go in and raid and save them and then head back.
You could be like a mega church Schindler in a lot of ways.
Yeah, like even around here, I don't even think we in Philly, we don't even have any of those type of churches.
You probably do in the burbs.
It's crazy.
You never hear of them in your entire life and then you see one and they're like kind of off the road a little bit.
And there's like 10,000 people on roll.
Like it's insane.
They had one where I lived and I thought my town in Winchester was tiny.
My town in Virginia was tiny.
I used to live.
I don't live there anymore.
It's like in Docs.
I used to live in Winchester, Virginia.
And I was like, these churches are tiny.
They're very old.
And then I looked up and I was like, there's a mega church in town with like 10,000 people and I'd never heard of it.
It's like insane.
Yeah, I don't know what to do.
I mean, I, you know, I, I really, I, I really blame parents.
Like parents are giving these kids these like phones and stuff at 11 and 12 years old instead of like forcing them to go out and do activities.
Like I, my daughter's in horseback riding, sailing, basketball, like a million sports and a lot of them co-ed sports.
And she has got, she's got friends that don't even live around here, like all over the place, guys, girls, whatever.
I just think that people need to actually go out and have hobbies and do things.
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Other than that, I don't even know what to say.
Like, I just think, I just think we're, you know, me, I'm Blackfield.
I think it's all over anyway.
Who cares?
So true.
But that's, that's rare that you're a parent that's like actually making your kids do things because the majority of kids are just iPad kids now.
Yeah.
Our school has is really good.
Like everybody get your kids into a Christian classical school, but our kids, we have a no device policy even at home.
Yeah.
Kids, like there, you can't have one even if you're home, not, you know, in school up until minimum eighth grade.
Well, because there's this interesting debate where like in Australia, where they're banning social media for kids, like I think under 18 or under 16.
And it was a left-wing government pushing that policy because, you know, a lot of people were saying, well, because young people are becoming right-wing because of the internet.
So they want to like put a lid on that.
That's kind of an interesting counter argument.
Yeah.
I mean, I kind of, I would limit it.
I think it's hurtful to every, I think it's hurtful to me as a 44-year-old woman.
Like, I just think it's like bad for everyone.
But I do think it's at the heart of what is like hurting these, the dating.
I think it's hugely impacting the dating sphere.
And I think that that's why I know so many people for years now.
I have lots of single friends that were having trouble finding people, going on dates, the quality of the people.
And that's because if like there's one little thing that might seem off, it's like, oh, swag to the next one.
I got another date coming.
If they, they, everybody, men and women think that they have like a plethora of options.
They don't.
You don't.
There's, there's, you know, it's, it's not like, um, and I see these women like raise your, like, you know, keep your expectations.
So I can't keep your expectations kind of high for like how he's going to treat you.
But overall, everybody needs to lower their expectations.
Women, men, everybody needs to like lower it a lot.
And it, people understand that love needs to be a choice.
And it's not like a feeling.
It's a choice.
You're going to mentally say, I'm going to commit to this person for the rest of my life.
And this is my plan.
And this is what, like, what's the old saying?
Two people, like, love isn't two people gazing into each other's eyes.
Looking forward in the same direction.
Right.
Like, you have to have a plan.
You have to say, okay, this is the person I'm committing to.
This is the type of life I want.
And then both of you work together to achieve that life.
But nobody's doing that anymore.
Well, yeah, because with the dating app thing, I mean, I agree that I actually suspect the dating apps might be one of the biggest culprits for such disruptions in the dating market.
And the big reason for this is because women specifically believe that they have far more options than they actually do because they're getting so many likes.
And I think if there was somehow a way to filter the men's interests that have liked her profile from hookup versus like serious, you know, companionship.
Yeah.
It would be like overwhelmingly the majority would be hookups.
And I was just saying this in the car the other night.
And for the like the sixes and the sevens, right?
Like for the women that are like in the six and seven range, what happens is like the men that they like, the bigger, I guess, six, seven, that's demonic.
We shouldn't even be doing that.
But for the sixes and the sevens, these women think that because men are interested in sleeping with them at six and seven, that they're the type of men that you're not pretty enough, sixes and sevens, for a man that's like an eight and a nine to give it all up for you.
He's never going to do that, right?
Just because he wants to pay attention and sleep with you does not mean that he wants to have a relationship with you.
So you have these like beautiful mids, like you would call them, right?
They are, yeah.
Right.
That think that are blowing off beautiful mid-men or great mid-men.
Yeah, they're not accurate.
They're looks match.
Right.
Because the hotter guys are like, oh, yeah, I'll bang her on Tuesday and then never call her again.
And they think that they can get, now they think they can get that nine, eight man.
No, you can't.
You can't.
He just wants to sleep with you.
They don't get it.
They think that sexual interest is actual relationship interests and they don't understand.
I don't know why their moms didn't tell them that or their brothers or boyfriends, but nobody ever told them that like, just because he wants to sleep with you does not mean he wants to be in a relationship with you or a guy of his caliber will want to do that either.
No, you need to, you need to reevaluate right now.
It's like a well-documented trait of men is that they find the rabbit from Zootopia very attractive.
So it's like, again, being determined as sexually attractive from a man is really not an indicator because Julie Hobbs is really a heartthrob for the majority of American men.
So I wouldn't be, you know, I wouldn't be thumping your chest too much if you're, again, one of these six, seven woman women that Elise has referred to and you're receiving a lot of interest from men because, yeah, it's going to be a pump and dump as they call them.
Six and seven women, like you're cute, you're fine.
Go get a nice husband.
Your life should be a little easier than the average or the below average woman.
I want the looks match.
Yeah, you see all these 40-year-old women.
I see them all the time and they're beautiful women and they're like, I just can't find a man.
No, no, no.
Your window is up to find a man, but the reason you couldn't find a man is because you were trying to go a little higher because they were the guys that just wanted to bang you.
That's really what the problem was the whole time.
They still don't get in their 40s.
Yeah.
So that's, yeah.
So that's like the big issue with the dating app is it inflates how many there was this YouTuber, Gerbert Johnson.
I don't know if the, I tried to find the video the other day, but I think it got taken down for some reason, maybe because it was like wild, but it was this video where he set up a fake profile, dating profile for a woman.
And she was like heavily overweight.
She was very old.
He purposely made the responses to the prompts like really abrasive and like shocking.
Like it was just a very like a disgusting woman all around.
It wasn't a real woman.
It was you just to put together a fake profile.
And he got so many likes and it was hinged.
So people would leave like a comment.
So many comments and likes from like guys that were fairly put together.
Guys that were like, you know, they're not like some of them are super like top of the line guys.
The guys that like should in a normal dating market be married already.
But something was just broken where these fellas were just throwing in.
And so a lot of those guys probably, again, were just desperate to get their rocks off and were looking for a hookup.
That could be the case.
I don't even think it's that.
But I think a lot of you guys just had to like, or just defeated.
When I used to be on dating apps back in the day, right?
Like I would get a lot of attention and then I would see some that I liked and I'd be like, ooh, right.
And then they wouldn't talk to you.
They just wanted to see if you would like them.
Yeah.
It's like a heat check.
Right.
Like it's, I don't even know.
The dating apps just blow my mind.
I don't know how anybody's effectively dating on it altogether, but I think it's that's why people aren't doing it.
But it's crazy.
The majority, the majority of marriage licenses issued last year were issued to couples that met on dating apps, which is quite dramatic.
Because when I used, I'm spoken for now, but when I used she's great.
Shout out to her.
Like Hinge, when I used Hinge, for example, I just realized it's more effective if you just use it as like a testing ground for like stand-up material.
Because like you're not going to, you're not going to meet your wife on there.
I mean, again, half of people are.
So okay, maybe you could.
But if you're like me and you're just like kind of like retarded, then you realize, okay, the chances of someone like me meeting my wife on Hinge is pretty much zero.
So you might as well use the app to practice stand-up material anyway.
And that's quite a lot of fun is when you don't view this woman as a potential love interest, you view her as an audience to jester max as a lot of the online writers.
It's so bad.
It's just demoralizing both men and women.
Women are getting their feelings hurt all the time because they're being used as hookups.
Yeah.
Because they're too stupid to realize that they're being used and they don't take accountability for it.
Men are feeling rejected because they're not getting swiped at and looked at.
And then they're getting blown off when they do actually try because the hotter ones are just using the girls.
It's a freaking nightmare.
We just need to shut it down.
We just need to shut it down.
I remember my friend got married years ago, like 10 years ago, from a guy from Plenty of Fish.
I don't even remember that.
And I thought that that was like so weird at the time.
I'm like, you're not going to meet anybody online.
Now that's the only way people are meeting because they don't leave their house.
They don't have anything to do.
And they have no hot.
They don't have any hobbies.
They don't do anything.
They just look smacks or, you know, doga praise.
I just don't understand.
I don't understand.
Everybody's, everybody's a nightmare.
They're all hoes and jerks.
I'm blackfield.
I think this world is awful.
So.
Yeah.
I want to say this for posterity.
When did we start calling hoes avoidance?
When did that happen?
You see, everyone's calling each other.
Oh, that was my avoidant ex.
That's just a hoe.
That's what we called them back in the day.
I don't know where this like psychology talk came in.
And it's like ruining everything.
You mean like, wait, relationship avoidance or something?
No, avoidant, like avoid D-A-N-T.
So that's like a term that people are using for like a partner with like an avoidant attachment style.
I was like, that's just someone that's broken.
Sorry.
I don't know.
Yeah.
It's just a red flag.
That's just like someone that's like not doing too hot.
Or is he yelling at me for my words over there?
He's just cooking.
No, I'm just saying that.
Like, that's just, yeah.
It's just a red flag.
It's a red flag.
It's just a red flag.
Everybody's awful, man.
Everybody sucks.
That's just the plan.
Go have babies, meet people in church.
I don't know where else to tell you to meet people, but turn the apps off so they have to.
Or pay for hinge premium.
And maybe you'll find it.
The only thing between you and your wife is the tender golds.
No.
Delete all of them so they have to go outside.
Never mind.
Lisa, thank you so much for hopping on.
Thank You, Lisa00:01:40
We're running out of time.
Where can people find you?
I don't know why they'd want to.
I'm a woman.
You shouldn't pay attention to a word I say.
But if you wanted to, I'm at Lisa Elizabeth on Twitter and that's it.
That's amazing.
In my pajamas.
Good morning, everybody.
Well, thank you, yeah.
Thank you so much for taking the time.
I really appreciate it.
That could have been mistaken.
That was like a nice, like, what do you call it, salute?
Not a bad salute.
Were you throwing up?
I can't see you.
Were you throwing up Romans up?
It did like a mat, but it wasn't like a bad one.
You're throwing Romans up.
Oh, come on.
It wasn't.
I didn't.
I'm just saying I didn't.
She didn't.
She didn't.
I believe.
All right.
But I just got nervous after I did it because everything you do anymore is like taken as terrible.
That's true.
Well, I'll see you on Media Matters tomorrow.
That'll be great.
All right.
Bye.
See you.
See you later.
Cheers.
Bye, guys.
Bye.
All right.
Well, that was the great Lisa Reynolds.
We're getting it figured out.
We'll see how I can get the guests up on the screen tomorrow.
Yeah, me and Degree of the show.
Yeah.
But it was a fairly strong first session out here in the new stew, potentially the permanent one.
I don't know.
I'm so tired of moving.
I feel like this was like the knockbob for racially insensitive podcasts.
I gotta prove it for my homeland.
I gotta go do that.
So hopefully my chest will get better for tomorrow.
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