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Jan. 20, 2026 - Tim Pool Daily Show
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TRUMP DOUBLES DOWN, "NO GOING BACK" On Greenland Takeover

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Allies and Self-Interest 00:15:21
What is going on, Patriots?
This is Tate Brown here holding it down.
Apologies for the late start.
We are on CPT here down in Florida.
Had to drag everyone off of the beach.
Everyone has just been lounging around.
I'm just kidding.
It's actually freezing here.
Again, I don't know what's going on in Florida.
I was expressing this concern yesterday.
All this talk about Florida being this warm, you know, perfect utopia.
Not the case.
It's absolutely Baltic here.
I had to throw the hoodie on.
I look like a homeless guy right now.
It's really getting wacky and wild.
But sorry for leaving you waiting.
We are here, and I got you guys for the next 55 minutes.
We have some insane, insane stories today.
Absolutely wacky and wild.
Things are kicking off at Davos, Davos.
My goodness, this is ugly.
This is really ugly.
We're seeing a serious rift here in NATO, which will probably be a relief to hear for a lot of you in the audience.
Obviously, Trump is putting maximum pressure on our European friends or friends across the pond, so to speak.
Obviously, they don't see eye to eye on the Greenland situation on who should control Greenland.
So it's been getting chippy.
Macron, he has sunglasses on for some reason.
I don't know if you saw the clip.
He's channeling his inner Joe Biden.
I think he probably just got beat up by his wife, if I had to guess, his wife.
Yeah, so it's getting wacky and wild over there at Davos.
I have a few other stories, but I think the Davos is going to take up the majority of the day.
We do have an interview, a very special interview, I would say, with Frank Scales.
You may not know the name.
He's, you know, he's on the up and up.
But if you saw the video out of Philadelphia where a guy was literally punched and pepper sprayed on a bus, he's an independent journalist.
He's been doing some reporting on the street in Philadelphia.
You know, conservative guy in Philly.
We grabbed him for an interview to ask him what happened, what was going on.
And he can kind of give us his thoughts on the escalating, obviously, tension conflict, everything in between here on the streets of our United States of America.
Things are getting ugly.
But we have some other good stories.
Obviously, I want to touch on China.
There's some interesting data that came out of China regarding their birth rate.
This is something that we keep an eye on here at Timcast.
And I've taken the position, which is a bit different from a lot of people in conservative media, that I do actually call the bluff on a lot of people that are sort of saying it as if it's an inevitability that China is sort of this emerging superpower and that they're going to dethrone the United States and that we're going to shift into this multipolar world.
Again, this is something that I used to actually say myself.
I used to sort of take it as a given that we were entering sort of a multipolar world.
But again, we're starting to see some really grim metrics coming out of China specifically that indicate that that might not be the case.
And then we also have some data that came in from Axios.
Axios put out a poll indicating that Trump supporters that are Gen Z and millennials, so really your younger cohort of Trump supporters, they're to the right of Trump.
You know, you see a lot of these approval ratings with Trump and you see among young people where approval for Trump has dipped.
Certainly some of that is just low propensity voters that just tapped out and they just don't think Trump's doing a good job.
But a lot of those are younger Zoomers that are fired up and they want to see more from Trump.
I mean, we had, obviously, you probably saw last night on Timcast Diary.
We had Nick Fuentes.
And I think he kind of epitomizes this sort of Zoomer frustration with the performance of the Trump administration.
They want results now and they actually wanted results yesterday.
Again, I won't necessarily go into, if you saw the after show, me and Nick got into it a little bit, had a little back and forth over Trump's performance, if he's still viable, if he's not.
I would encourage you to check that out.
It was a, you know, it was a good, good spirit of debate.
I think it was fun and I think good exchange.
But with that, we're going to get into that data that came out.
But I think we should start with Davos.
I think we should start with Davos.
Things are getting wacky and wild over at Davos.
I'm going to have to slide over.
See, I have Producer Kellen in the house.
What's up, Kellen?
We got Kellen in the house.
I'm going to have him frame that instead of me sliding all the way over.
Look at that.
That's beautiful.
We are getting going here.
First, this is from Reuters.
This is the headline.
Trump sharing leaked text and AI mock-ups vows no going back on Greenland.
So this is some interesting writing here from Reuters.
Maybe indicates where their head is at.
This is some of the writing they put here on their front page of Reuters.
U.S. President Donald Trump said on Tuesday there was, quote, no going back on his goal to control Greenland, refusing to rule out taking the Arctic island by force and rounding on allies as European leaders struggled to respond.
Trump's ambition, spelled out in social media posts and mock-up AI images, to wrest sovereignty over Greenland from fellow NATO member Denmark, has threatened to blow apart the alliance that has underpinned Western security for decades.
Obviously, what they're talking about here, as again, as you are all familiar, is this post-war consensus, this post-war system that the U.S. has set up where effectively we sort of dictate terms to Europe and they're under our umbrella.
And in many ways, they are client states of the U.S.
And in return, we provide them with defense, we provide them with an umbrella of protection.
And this is sort of getting blown apart in the Trump, really since Trump came on the scene, as he's always been harping on and on about how our NATO allies are not doing enough.
They're not pulling their weight.
And so this is kind of goes back to, I've sort of broke this down on the show.
Trump's foreign policy, the way that he views the world, the way that he views our historic alliances, is he takes the approach that every country, when they're at the negotiating table, is ultimately self-interested.
That is really the crux of Trumpism, of Trump foreign policy, Trump foreign relations, is he believes that even when you're debating at the negotiating table with Estonia, he believes that the Estonians are there looking out for Estonian people.
They're self-interested.
And the American people and the American government, et cetera, should be self-interested as well.
Like, okay, there might be an alliance on paper, but as the world sort of continues on and we start to see this re-emergence of maybe more imperial themes, so to speak, if you look at how Russia has conducted their affairs with Ukraine, sort of China's aspirations in regards to Taiwan, his whole sort of proposition is: okay, well, we need to sort of behave in the same way, maybe not overtly imperial per se, but we certainly should be acting in our self-interest,
behaving at the negotiating table as a country looking out for its self-interest.
And really, in conclusion, the conclusion of that, the natural end point of that is ultimately we shouldn't be giving out freebies to our NATO allies, is that our NATO allies should be providing something in return to the United States.
And this has really been at the crux of this whole Greenland debate.
Is the Danish obviously are in control of Greenland.
This has been the case for hundreds of years.
You even go back to the Norse.
I mean, their Viking ancestors were the ones that ultimately settled Greenland or conquered Greenland, whatever you want to say.
And Trump correctly has identified that China specifically has ambitions in the Arctic and that Greenland, in many ways, is kind of a sitting duck.
I mean, from the Danish perspective, they perceive that Greenland is under threat from the United States.
We had the Greenlandic prime minister who's, you know, really a nobody on the global scale, but he is, you know, sort of in charge of calling shots in Greenland.
He came out and he said that the Greenlandic people should prepare for war.
And you're seeing all this, but all Denmark and their European allies, their continental European allies, all they can really muster up is just sort of some sporadic deployments.
Germany obviously sent some troops.
And then as soon as the United States threatened more tariffs, they just sent them back.
So again, this just really doesn't indicate that the Danish are really able to properly defend their territory, the territory of Greenland.
And this is, I mean, this is why Trump correctly has said, look, if you don't hand over Greenland, if you don't allow us to, again, be in charge of defense of Greenland and control Greenland, the Chinese are going to come in.
The Chinese are going to come in.
They have their sites on the Arctic.
Obviously, the Arctic is of strategic importance.
The Northwest Passage is opening up.
This is going to be another way that global trade can sort of bypass the Panama Canal.
We've seen, you know, again, some exploration of the Northwest Passage, really determining how viable it would be, again, to like be able to traverse it.
So with that, all this to say, Trump has identified that Greenland needs to be American.
And this also goes to like the overall theme of Trumpism, which is sort of a harkening back to like the old school way that these countries, these major powers sort of self-identified is where America, since World War II, has kind of LARPed like a republic.
They've seen themselves as a member of the global community and they've always been emphatically in favor of these global institutions, these sorts of things.
Davos obviously comes to mind, but like, you know, NATO, the United Nations, these sorts of organizations where Trump, I think, correctly views the United States as an empire and he correctly views the American people as a frontier people that are always seeking to expand.
We haven't expanded in a while.
Again, we fought some wars.
Iraq and Afghanistan obviously come to mind.
And if you look at what Trump's commentary was at the time on the Iraq war specifically, is he, again, he thought it was a geopolitical mess.
He obviously was questioning the geopolitical implications of the invasion.
He was skeptical of how transparent the Bush administration was with our goals there.
He says it wasn't properly communicated to the American people.
These are all true.
But Trump's primary concern in regards to Iraq, as he said over and over again, is, where's the oil?
We didn't get the oil.
Why do we go in there and not get the oil?
What happened to the oil?
Because Trump, again, has this sort of imperial view of our foreign policy.
And his number one question when we are engaging in a foreign conflict is what's in it for the American people.
There's this tendency among sort of the populist right, which I guess I would be a part of, to just be anti-war writ large.
Sort of a libertarian impulse of, okay, you leave me alone, I'll leave you alone, this sort of thing.
But when Russia kind of calls the bluff on this system, when they go into Ukraine, and again, as China continues sort of their encroachment with Taiwan, are they going to go in or are they going to not?
All this indicates is like, look, war is not going anywhere.
So the question is, if the United States is going to engage in these foreign conflicts, what's in it for the American people?
As we've seen in the Middle East, typically becomes a quagmire.
The foreign policy goals aren't very well articulated, nor are they very clear, even if they were articulated.
There's obviously sort of complications with our alliance with Israel, specifically in regards to sort of they want to settle a score with Iran.
So we're taking out the trash in certain countries.
That's sort of the concern regarding our operations in the Middle East.
But you see something like Venezuela and the invasion of Venezuela, which was done very effectively.
It took 88 minutes, really avoided a quagmire.
We just went in and out.
Again, I've talked about this at length.
That indicates where the Trump administration's head is at, is they've come out after and they start selling the oil immediately.
Again, they're trying to flood the market with Venezuelan oil to lower oil prices.
Yes, lower energy prices affect some of our allies like Saudi Arabia, but it really throws a wrench into the Russian war machine.
It really impacts Iran.
This isn't to say that the entire Russian economy is built on energy.
I think it's like 20% of their economy or 20% of their exports, but it's a major, major geopolitical play.
Like it's not just seizing oil for the sake of cheap oil.
Again, you're using this as a weapon on the global scale, on the global system, so to speak.
So anyway, let's get into some of the news.
This was obviously Trump.
He put this up.
This was a text from Emmanuel Macron that he decided to screenshot and post.
Again, I don't know how good of practice that is, but it certainly illustrates the difference in rhetoric that these world leaders use in public versus in private.
So you can see here from President Macron, he's basically just glazing Trump in this text message.
We are totally in line on Syria.
We can do great things on Iran.
I don't understand what you're doing on Greenland, but let us try to build some great things.
Let's have dinner together.
Like he's being really nice, very cordial.
But then when he makes these public statements, he's like finger wagging and he's, you know, chastising Trump and chastising the American, the Trump administration, the United States.
So again, this really just illustrates, I think, why Trump did this, why he put this text up is he wanted to make it clear that there's a difference between how these guys conduct themselves away from the, you know, the press and then what they do when they're in front of the press.
Very interesting.
Again, we saw the same thing here.
This was from the Secretary General of NATO, Mark Rutt.
Mr. President, dear Donald, what you accomplished in Syria today is incredible.
I will use my media engagements in Davos to highlight your work there in Gaza and in Ukraine.
I'm committed to finding a way forward on Greenland.
Can't wait to see you.
Yours, Mark.
That's like what an ex texts you.
That's what an ex-girlfriend would text you.
It's like the glaze is just unbelievable here.
This is really something to behold.
Again, Mark's rhetoric in public vastly different than what he's saying to Trump behind closed doors.
So again, I think the reason Trump is doing this is in some ways it's a warning shot, obviously, saying just like let us handle this with Greenland.
But also he's really trying to illustrate the rhetoric difference, probably for Europeans to see more so than Americans.
Because again, Americans don't really care very much about our foreign policy.
But again, the difference between their public rhetoric and their private rhetoric really is remarkable.
Trump is going on the offensive.
He is, again, trying to wrangle our NATO allies.
And this is really something to behold here.
Uk's Foolish Diego Garcia Move 00:09:33
This was his Truth Social post.
He posted this in the middle of the night.
But he's probably in Switzerland now.
He's scheduled to speak tomorrow at Davos.
So this may have been posted early this morning on Swiss time.
Shockingly, our brilliant NATO ally, the United Kingdom, is currently planning to give away the island of Diego Garcia the site of a vital U.S. military base to Mauritius and to do so for no reason whatsoever.
And then he goes on why this is stupid, why the UK is just fumbling this here.
I'm going to, I'm going to do a live.
This is what I like to do.
I like to do live Map show you specifically what's going on here.
So let's see.
So we're here in Florida.
Lovely, lovely Florida.
And as you can see here, Maurius is all the way down here.
So all the way down here.
It's very far away from where the British Indian Ocean territory is.
And this is sort of the, this is the Chagos.
This is what they're attempting to give away.
And as you can see here, this is actually a fairly strategic.
placement for a military base.
Again, you have all this trade coming in from East Asia, coming through here, the Straits of Malacca, and that goes out to Europe through the Suez.
You know, it could go to South Africa to Latin America, but primarily this base is strategically very important.
Again, A, for trade purposes, as you can see here, all the trade coming in from East Asia and vice versa.
But also, as you can see here, it's a very strategic base if you have, again, aspirations in the Middle East.
I'm not saying I'm not encouraging this.
I'm not saying that that's optimal.
But again, it's important.
It's a strategically important base.
And the British want to give this away for basically nothing.
They're giving this away for like quite literally woke reasons.
They feel bad because we had to kick the people out when we were building Diego Garcia.
So the UK just continuing on, continuing on their suicidal decolonization, anti-white tirade that they're going on.
And they're just giving away vital strategic pieces all around the world.
So again, this is the Trump administration really just trying to save the UK from themselves.
It's just absolutely ridiculous.
So Trump's going in.
Oh, crap.
Let's see here.
Where did this go?
Boom.
Trump's going to Davos.
Here are the big names who aren't.
We're kind of running out of time already.
So just a few names, obviously, that are showing up.
Jamie Diamond's going to be there.
Jensen Wong is going to be there from NVIDIA.
Those are some major players.
Zelensky said on Tuesday, he said today, this morning, that he's not going, even though he was supposed to.
Xi Jinping is not going.
Neither is Lula or Modi.
So again, there's some big names missing from this list.
And then Starmer and Maloney were not on the original list from the World Economic Forum, but they are reported to be attending.
So what this is looking like, what this is going to be is Davos is basically just going to be, if you remember from Amfest, where you just had all these guys settling scores on stage, that's basically what's going on again is we're just going to have Western Europeans and Americans settling scores with each other on stage.
Again, this is a departure from what Davos typically is, is Davos is typically where they just discuss like climate change and like just weird globalist gobbly gook.
Where instead this go-round is just America arguing with Western Europe over who should own Greenland, which is quite funny.
But this is all kicked off.
This all kicked off when Trump announced tariffs on Greenland.
Very interesting stuff.
Let me see if I can find the piece here.
Right.
So this was Scott Bessant, obviously Trump's economics guy, his tariff guy.
And this reporter asked him if Europe has any financial weapons that the U.S. should fear.
Here's his response.
It's quite interesting.
Just to follow into that, so you do not believe that the EU or the UK have any retaliatory financial instruments or measures in their bag that the United States should be worried about.
No.
So very matter of a fact, this is a one-way street.
This is, again, these tariffs.
There's not really much Europe can do about it.
So again, at this rate, it does appear that a deal is going to be struck with Greenland.
There's some interesting commentary here.
There was a lot going on at Davos.
Obviously, Gavin Newsom crashing out.
Von der Leyen saying that Europe's going to cut a deal with India.
So, again, there's this like tendency from, I'm kind of all over the place right now, but just bear with me.
There's this tendency from Europeans where they're like, look, if America would stop meddling with European affairs, we could be like super based and right-wing.
And it's like the Yankees are holding us back.
When you see something like this, when you see von der Leyen basically announcing that the world is ready to choose Europe and we're cutting the mother of all deals with India, that just means they're flooding Europe with Indians.
That's all that means.
So it's like, this is actually what Europe would look like on steroids if it weren't for the U.S. sort of wrangling, wrangling them.
Gavin Newsom's crashing out.
Macron, very fascinating here.
Macron with sunglasses on.
Again, the reporting was that he had like some sort of surgery on his eyes.
I think his wife just beat the crap out of him again.
I think that's probably what happened.
His wife just freaking wails on him.
It's really a sight to behold.
I don't know if you remember that video on the plane where she just boom, like pimp slapped him.
It was really something to see.
I think that's probably what's going on here.
But he says, we're shifting to a world without rules.
Imperial ambitions are resurfacing.
Yeah, that's true.
So that's why the U.S. is acting in accordance with this.
They, again, the U.S., Realpolitik correctly identifying the direction that global affairs are going in, and they're reacting accordingly.
They don't want to get left behind.
And this is what happens with Europe a lot: this is what happens with Europe is they don't adapt to, again, the climate as it stands.
Like they don't adapt to reality.
This is why their tech sector is, you know, underperforms horribly.
It's why there's very minimal innovation coming out of a continent that quite literally built the world in a lot of ways.
So it's just, it's just kind of embarrassing that Macron is like, again, hand-wringing over international law.
Dude, this is a new paradigm.
You got to get real.
He said in his speech, he was talking about China and he was, again, kind of demonstrating his fear of Chinese influence in Europe, although he's cutting deals with the Chinese all the time.
But like, Europe's got to stand on their own two feet.
Again, the American umbrella, the American people are really tired of bailing out Europe continually.
And I think part of the usefulness of this rift occurring is, again, sort of forcing Europe to stand on their own two feet.
It's forcing Europe to not be dependent on American defense.
So there's a lot of things going on.
This is, yeah, that was Greer's take on von der Leyen: if only the Euros could send the Yankees home, they could make more based deals like this.
It's so true.
Again, Best Sent made a good point.
We have Europe buying Russian oil still four years later.
They're literally financing a war against themselves.
This is just Europe is just not serious in this moment.
They're not serious.
And I don't say this.
I'm not one of these people that just dunks on Europeans.
I think like it's sad what's happening to Europe.
Like, I do want Europe to succeed.
Again, as an American, as a heritage American, I think we all do have this love for Europe in a very distinct way.
Not necessarily like we should save them and bail them out of every single mess, but like we do recognize we are broadly part of the same civilization, Western civilization.
And so it's like not a good thing if Europe just completely collapses.
It's not a good thing if Europe just gets bashed along the rocks of mass migration, bashed along the rocks of Russia just running train on them.
So it's like, yes, Europe and its current condition, like screw them, right?
They're governments.
But as far as like European peoples, we are sort of distinctly, indirectly linked to them in some, you know, some tangible ways, some intangible ways.
And so it's just like a sad thing.
I don't like dunking on them.
There's something to be said.
Some people have expressed concern with the Trump administration's approach to Greenland that maybe these things should be handled behind closed doors because, Again, yes, you're antagonizing the European governments, which is based, but you're also sort of creating a rift between Trumpism and the right wing in Europe.
And I don't know if that's, again, super beneficial.
Like a rising tide lifts all boats.
And so, you know, it would be nice if we had like a based Europe to sort of conduct our affairs with.
It would be nice if, again, these right-wing parties took over and sort of shored up Europe in a lot of ways.
But at the same time, Denmark just needs to hand Greenland over.
They need to just take the, you know, we already have a check cut, as far as I can tell from all the reporting.
There's already a check cut.
We're ready to pay up.
Let's just get this deal done.
Let's make it happen.
So it's just utterly ridiculous what's going on.
Pepper Sprayed Protester 00:04:35
So there's a lot more I wanted to get into, but again, we're kind of running a little low on time here.
Maybe we need a longer show in the future.
I don't know.
Maybe I just need to like lock in and, you know, get my timing better.
We'll see.
But before we get into the interview with Frank Scales, we're going to bring him in.
I do want to show you.
You know, I'll show you now what's going on.
We got time.
So this was the insanity of this woman right here, identified as an agitator, as attacking this independent journalist, pepper spraying him, punching him, trying to grab his phone.
Take a look at this video.
You can see her just like crash out.
Why are you so bad?
Why?
Because you talk shit about intramicate people.
You talk shit about black people.
You talk shit about Mexicans.
When you post on the internet.
Come here.
Right here.
You good?
Second pepper spray, baby.
So Frank Total Chad just eats that pepper spray.
Again, this just really illustrates the situation on the streets in the United States.
Again, leftists are able to operate effectively with total impunity.
Do we really think the DA in Philadelphia is going to come down hard on this girl?
Highly doubt it.
I highly doubt it.
This girl was identified as Pauline Reyes of WHYY.
It's a news channel in Philadelphia.
She is, you know, an unhinged leftist.
I think that's a fair categorization here.
So just absolutely insane and insane.
Jack Pesobek obviously signing the alarm.
Why is your news intern going around pepper spraying people on SEPTA buses?
Very salient question.
So we're going to grab Frank and ask him what he thinks about all of this.
I imagine he probably has a negative view on this situation.
So we'll quiz him.
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So with that, we have a great interview for you guys today.
We got Frank Scales.
How's it going, man?
It's going awesome.
Thank you for having me on today.
Of course, man.
I really appreciate it.
Yeah, dude.
Of course.
Of course.
Well, for the people watching at home, can you give a quick intro of who you are, what you do, and what happened?
Yes.
So I am an independent journalist with Surge Media.
I actually started my own publication here in Philadelphia.
And we've been going to protests.
We've been interviewing people on the street for the last few months.
Our goal is to spread truth, spread information grounded in truth, faith, and accountability.
And we've had a lot of success.
And just yesterday, we were actually assaulted on a SEPTA bus.
We were coming home from somewhere.
I was looking out the window and a lady behind me started calling me a fascist and a racist because she saw my work online.
And she actually tried to take my phone.
She punched me in the back of the head and then she pepper sprayed me twice.
Dude, dude.
Well, I got to say from the video, you ate that pepper spray.
Like that was like a total alpha moment or mad respect for that.
Ugly Things Are Getting Ugly 00:08:39
That was insane.
But the fact that this happened is really just an indication of how ugly things are getting.
Obviously, this girl was identified.
We see the, again, some of the identification circling online.
Absolutely insane situation.
Obviously, from your accent, I imagine people can tell this happened in Philadelphia.
This happened, again, on a public bus.
So I'm vaguely aware of Larry Krasner, obviously the DA of Philadelphia, the situation there.
I can't imagine you're expecting really any retribution or maybe not retribution, but any recourse really that's going to occur for this.
I mean, it seems like a total leftist hello in a lot of ways in Philadelphia.
Yeah, so we actually have history.
If people go on our social media, they can scroll down and actually see that I confronted Krasner in a public park and he actually grabbed my phone from me and like shook it and called me anti-American.
Now, about a month after that, we were covering a protest at City Hall in Philadelphia when somebody took my phone and smashed it.
That person who did that got diversion.
So they faced no consequences.
Now, the thing about what happened yesterday is it happened on SEPTA.
And it's the public transportation organization.
So what can happen is the state can come in and prosecute because SEPTA crimes actually got pulled.
Well, you know, Larry Krasner could still prosecute crimes on SEPTA, but the state essentially came in and took some authority away because Larry Kraser was doing such a bad job with SEPTA and SEPTA gets a lot of state funding.
So we're hoping that the state picks it up and actually prosecutes this crime.
And we're going to work really hard to make sure that this person faces consequences because we can't keep allowing people to get away with violence.
Yeah.
We're just going to continue doing it.
Yeah, of course.
I mean, we're seeing all across the country.
Obviously, the situation in Minneapolis just continuing.
We saw the raid at a church and on Sunday.
Just absolute insanity is, I don't know, from your perspective, it seems like from my perspective that leftists broadly across the country still think this is 2020.
They still think that they're able to operate with complete impunity.
Is that what you're seeing when you interact with these people?
Do they really just feel like they're invincible in a lot of ways?
They do.
They do.
And it comes down to like yesterday, that was a personal loan.
And that was kind of unsettling because what we felt was the weight and the danger in what we do.
We know it's dangerous, right?
We know there's always risks and these people are nuts.
But yesterday we saw that firsthand from a person who was willing to commit violence against me.
But when they're in a group, they are not scared about consequences.
And quite frankly, they feel empowered to act.
But they're cowardly.
They're cowardly people.
And that's why the person who pepper sprayed me, her name's Paulina Reyes.
She actually calls herself a journalist and an intern at Y, which is a media network here in Philadelphia, publicly funded.
But she fled.
She fled because she's a coward.
Yeah.
And yeah, they're cowards.
There is something interesting, something to be said about the fact that this girl, obviously cowardly, I mean, crazy, but the fact that she is gainfully employed.
Like, you know, when you see these types of things in the past, you would just talk it up to like just someone that's just a crazy person.
These are people that are working at news networks.
I mean, these are people that, you know, for what it's worth are occupying positions that are fairly important.
I mean, I know she's an intern, but like the fact that this is happening at an organization like why, I mean, again, they disseminate news.
And we're seeing this all across the country is these aren't just like random people, you know, with nothing to lose per se.
Like these are people that have infiltrated a lot of these institutions and are hijacked by this leftist ideology.
I mean, that has to be quite alarming, I think, for everyone that someone like this, again, working in a news agency is radicalized like this, where they're literally just assaulting people in public.
Yeah, these are the people who are giving people news.
These are healthcare workers.
These are people in every sector of society.
And it goes back to the educational complex.
These people get radicalized in college and then they go on to work in professional jobs in every sector.
We see it in healthcare.
We see it in media.
We see it in politics.
We see it everywhere.
It's really a danger.
And I think that's why it's super important to take back the colleges and essentially show how they're indoctrinating students because that's really where it starts.
Yeah, absolutely.
And we saw after Charlie Kirk when all these people were celebrating and these people that were celebrating, they're posting under their government name.
In many cases, some of them were chucking it up on LinkedIn.
Like it was absolute insanity.
And so when you would see these people posting these types of things, you would expect to click on it and they would just be like a loser.
But oftentimes they would be again gainfully employed at fairly influential organizations.
And you're just sitting back like, is this really how bad things have gotten?
Is this really how much ground we've lost?
Because I think when I see something like this, seeing you get assaulted, what I see is I just see, wow, how much ground have we lost?
How insane is it that there's such a large contingent of people in the United States that, again, will just quite literally assault you for having, you know, just conservative beliefs.
Again, beliefs that, you know, at least half the country, if not the majority of the country, hold.
I mean, attacking someone like you, again, you're someone that has the beliefs of probably a good majority of people watching.
I mean, that's just a massive wake-up call, I would think, for everyone.
Absolutely.
It definitely is.
And what's more alarming is that why the media network that she is involved with did not come out and denounce political violence.
Community College of Philadelphia, the place she was at school, and I was at school, and that's how I knew her name because we were both in the same school and we kind of went to the same events at some point.
But Community College of Philadelphia did not come out and denounce political violence.
These people are allowing this to happen.
And we could look at establishment Democrats and we can talk about the current issues with ICE.
They are delegitimizing ICE and putting federal agents in danger.
And when they say that ICE is committing crimes and all of this different stuff, a Nazified Gestapo, I actually heard Lyra Craster say something to that tune in a meeting I was at listening to him speak.
What they are saying to their radicalized base is go out and obstruct.
And that is, it's really a whole complex.
It's the woke complex.
And it includes education.
It includes government officials.
It includes people in all different professions.
And then it includes the radical sect that oftentimes are unemployed, but they're willing to throw their whole lives away to commit violence against Republicans and commit violence against people who disagree with them.
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, like you said with Krasner, we saw in Minnesota with Tim Waltz coming out and saying they're snatching up, you know, your neighbors of color.
Again, just sort of, you know, indiscreetly posturing ICE as this, again, like this Gestapo going door to door, like kicking out doors or whatever.
And all that effectively does is, again, when you're just lying and slandering these guys who, again, are just conducting an operation that was voted on.
Like this was a referendum and the American people said, yeah, illegal immigration.
Not cool that we would like mass deportations now.
People at the RNC holding signs up saying mass deportations.
ICE is just carrying out, again, a very popular policy, by the way.
The majority of Americans are in favor of deporting illegal immigrants.
What that effectively does when they, when Krasner and Walsh use that kind of rhetoric, is they're, again, indiscreetly kind of putting a target on these guys' backs.
And like, to your point, I mean, people are quite literally willing to destroy their lives if it means carrying out sort of this obstruction that's being that's being called for.
It's just really despicable.
That's very encouraging to hear that, again, the state might handle this because it seems like a lot of times these DAs, I mean, you see it in Portland and Minneapolis all the time, is they're pretty much useless.
They'll check you in, you get a, you know, a night of sleep at jail and then you're out the next morning.
Yeah, yeah, it's a good stay for them a lot of the times.
Good experience.
But, you know, what we've learned is these people need to be held accountable.
So we're going to do everything we can to make sure that this person is held accountable to the highest extent of the law.
She assaulted me.
It was aggravated assault.
She used pepper spray in an enclosed space.
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She didn't only endanger me.
She endangered everyone on that bus using that pepper spray for offensive purposes.
Yeah.
Well, she was calling you like a racist and all these different things.
I'm talking to you now.
You seem like a really nice guy.
What do you, what, what, I mean, because obviously they're just going to call anyone racist for the most part, if you're a conservative or even broadly right-wing in any way.
What, what, what specifically, what was her gripe with you?
Like, is there any like specific instance?
Or again, is this just like generalized?
You're a conservative, boom.
So I think that the fact that we're having success and we're actually showing people what's happening on the ground and we're exposing the radical left for who they are, the violent people who they are.
And the fact that a lot of these protesters, the ones who aren't particularly violent, don't even know why they're protesting.
And we have tons of interviews backing that claim up.
I think she looked at my success and she was mad and jealous and, you know, probably mad that she isn't having the same amount of success and pushing her beliefs and whatnot.
And it was really just a rage that I think overtook her, especially when she couldn't bait me into a streaming match, which she tried to do when she first saw me.
I turned around and I was just looking out the window of the bus.
I turned around and she was saying, How's it feel to be a racist, a fascist?
And I said, word for word, I disagree with your characterization about what I do, but I hope you're having a good day.
Yeah.
And she really got more aggressive.
And that's when I pulled out my phone.
And thankfully, we got it all on camera.
Yeah.
But yeah, it escalated very quickly.
And a lot of the times it comes when you won't stoop down to their level, they get very, very angry.
So that's something we really pride ourselves on at Surge Philly.
And anybody can find us at surgemedia.us.
We pride ourselves on acting in principle and not stooping down to their level.
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, yeah, you guys kept kept your cool.
And again, I mean, that's why this story is going everywhere because again, you guys kept her cool.
What she was trying to do is drag you down to her level, like you said.
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But I mean, that's, that's what's so alarming is because, you know, as far as I can tell, your job effectively is just document what these people are doing.
And just the fact that, like, you know, they say like sunlight is the greatest and disinfectant.
You know, it's the same thing as again, all you're doing is documenting what they're doing.
It's like I'm just showing people at home who maybe aren't on the street seeing this what you guys are up to.
And just the sheer fact of documenting what's going on is enough for these people to completely crash out.
That's really like, it's almost demonic in some way.
It's really disturbing, disturbing behavior.
Well, it shows, and this can go back all the way into the fact that these people don't actually believe in a higher power.
But essentially, they've replaced God with a cult belief, a Marxist cult-like belief where it's, you know, this is the only thing that's right.
And anybody who opposes this is an enemy and not only an enemy, ideologically, but also an enemy to their core.
They need to be eliminated.
And that's how these people think.
And that's why they get so violent.
But when you approach them, and what I believe in is spreading truth.
I go to these protests.
I talk to people with the intention to figure out why they're there and what they actually believe.
And, you know, they don't believe in that.
When you approach them and ask them questions, they meet you with hostility because it's a cult.
And this goes back to, well, why can't they answer questions about what they believe?
And it goes, and it's because they cancel their own and their own circles.
If they voice a opposing opinion, they get canceled.
They get kicked out of their own group.
So they're actually scared of each other.
So when they go out in the real world and meet people who actually have a different opinion, they don't know how to handle that.
They don't know how to respond.
And they treat those people as enemies.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I was just clear that I think of all the adjectives that you could correctly sort of prescribe for these people.
I think the number one that comes to mind is low impulse control.
Like they literally just will crash out at the drop of a hat.
And it's really just unbelievable to watch in real time, watching it, again, manifest here in an actual assault.
I mean, it's just absolutely remarkable.
But I mean, that's a great point is that, I mean, these people really don't have sort of a guiding ideology.
They don't have really a purpose.
And that's why they just fill it with radical politics.
They don't have anything else really going on in their lives that would make it worthwhile for them to, again, work in any other capacity in life.
The only thing that really gets them up in the morning, that sort of provides them with any purpose or meaning whatsoever, is this idea that there's a revolution going on and that people like you, people like me, people like people watching at home are the only things standing between them and like a perfect utopian society.
That's a pretty powerful, again, it's a pretty powerful motivating force for these people.
And I think that's why you're seeing an escalation in violence over the last few years, but just in the last few weeks, I mean, these people are clearly down for the cause.
This isn't just people that get caught up or swept in it.
I mean, that to a degree happened in 2020.
These are people that are quite literally ideologues.
They quite literally have a vision for America, a really pernicious one, but they have a vision for America.
And again, they just view us as like in the way.
And that's really disturbing.
And I think a lot of people now at home sort of see this as well.
And, you know, our goal is to depict what's happening.
And that is exactly what's happening.
So we're going to keep going no matter what.
They can pepper spray me.
They can mace me.
And the reason why I didn't react super badly was because I was actually pepper sprayed last week at a protest.
We got attacked.
You know, somebody tried to punch me and then they pepper sprayed me.
And thankfully, the cops got me out of that protest and to safety.
But yeah, I was pepper sprayed last week and I had to go to the hospital to get my eyes rinsed out because they said it could have been bleached.
So this week when they pepper sprayed me, when she pepper sprayed me, I was kind of like, okay, this happened last week.
Just another day at the office.
Yeah.
Yeah, dude.
Well, so the situation in Philly, has there always, I mean, I imagine, you know, I remember from 2020, but has there always been this kind of hotbed of leftist activity?
And, you know, in addition to that, has it sort of kicked up in conjunction with what's going on in Minneapolis?
Or is it kind of a separate scene, I guess, for lack of a better word?
So it's always been here, and it's particularly violent here in Philadelphia because there's a radical network and a lot of it is based around a Palestinian movement.
That's where they got started.
So we actually went to like a free Sudan rally just to ask questions and we were chased by somebody wielding a Palestinian flag.
We were threatened with assault.
Somebody said they were going to headbutt me and I had to be careful walking home.
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And that was a few months ago.
And that's when my phone were a month ago.
And that's when my phone was actually smashed by somebody.
So we've seen this at almost every protest we've been at in Philly.
It's very, very violent here.
And we see all of the radicals now moving to the issue of ICE because that's what the establishment Democrats are saying.
They're talking about ICE constantly.
It's all over the news.
So all these people who would be violent no matter what are now focused on ICE.
Yeah.
Are these people, I imagine they have to be emboldened by Krasner.
I mean, the fact that they probably perceive, again, that they will be able to operate with impunity because, again, maybe they're not part of the same organizations directly, but they do have a similar guiding ideology.
I think the Democrat Party and these leftist agitators, when you look at the rhetoric, look at their enemies and their common goals, it is tough to decipher, again, the ideology.
I'm not saying necessarily that, you know, people like Krasner, people like Tim Waltz are out in the streets committing crimes per se, but there's no question that they're on the same page.
Yeah, it's the rhetoric.
It comes down to how they say certain things, calling ICE a Gestapo, saying that, you know, Republicans are Nazis, saying that Republicans, including me, I got called anti-American by Larry Krasner.
Well, that's calling me an enemy.
And his followers are going to go out there and they're going to attack because they don't have anything to lose, unlike Krasner and the establishment Democrats.
Just after we went to a town hall with Krasner where Krasner was saying things, and this was right after the assassination of Charlie Kirk, he was calling Republicans essentially evil people.
I stood up and I said, stop this.
You can disagree without calling us evil, without saying we're anti-American, without questioning our patriotism.
And the next town hall, they actually shielded the door.
And this was somebody who was advising Larry Krasner on LGBTQ affairs, a ally of Larry Krasner, with a bullhorn saying, you need to be taught a lesson.
You're not coming in here guarding me from entering his town hall.
And you can find that video on Serge Philly or Frank.scales on Instagram.
Look up our website, surgemedia.us and you'll find our social medias.
But yeah, I mean, these radicals are empowered by Larry Krasner.
And another thing is that they don't face any consequences.
It comes back to accountability.
If people aren't being held accountable, they're going to be empowered to continue acting poorly.
Larry Krasner does not hold criminals or people who commit political violence.
And at least in my case, where my phone was smashed on the ground, the woman was given diversion.
She was not held accountable.
When you don't hold people accountable, they feel empowered to keep committing the acts that they were before and keep with the poor behavior.
And that's what we're seeing in Philadelphia across the board.
That's what's so frustrating when you hear about these DAs and you meet guys from Philly, guys from Baltimore, from New York.
And you name it.
You give me an American city.
You talk to someone from there that's a total patriot.
And they're describing the situation with their DA.
And it's like that scene from Toy Story where Buzz looks on the shelf and he realizes there's a million other Buzz Lightyears.
It's the same thing with these DAs when they're like, hey, we're light on crime.
We're letting leftists operate with total impunity.
It's like, yeah, there's a million DAs all across the country that are operating the same way.
And it just really illustrates how bad the United States has really gotten.
And that these people, again, this is kind of comes back.
And I know it's kind of a meme at this point, but like it really does emphasize the importance of guys like you exposing what's going on at the local level.
Because again, so many people, you know, that engage with conservative media, they want to hear about what's going on with Trump.
I mean, like this morning with my show, I talked about the Greenland situation, these sorts of things.
But when you really think about what's going to impact you on a day-to-day basis, where is going to be like the obvious impact on your life?
It's your DA.
Yeah.
It's your city councilman or councilwoman.
It's your assemblyman, your mayor.
Like these are the people that, again, on a day-to-day basis are going to be massive disruptions or potentially benefit, you know, beneficiaries for your life.
I think that's why the work people like you are doing is just so vital.
Yeah, and I will never ever stop.
Again, they can do whatever they want.
As the great James O'Keefe said, my price is my life, and I feel the same way.
This is super important.
People have died.
People have risked their life, liberty, and sacred honor for this country.
And I'm going to do the same thing.
I think that the work we're doing as independent journalists, and there are many people out there doing this work, is super important because, like you said, it's gotten so bad in America because what they realized is that they don't actually need to change the law.
They need to be in charge of enforcing it.
So you see all of these leftist DAs that got propped up across the country who aren't enforcing the law.
And people usually don't look there.
So it really flies under the radar, but it's affecting people's lives in ways that are horrible.
People are dying.
You look at Irina Zarutska, and she's not mentioned nearly as much as she should be.
But that gentleman, and I don't even want to call him a gentleman, he was an animal.
But the man who killed her was a prior criminal.
They had plenty of chances to put that man away and they didn't.
And that came down to local politics.
You look at Katis Scott in Philadelphia, beautiful young woman, great life ahead of her.
She was killed by somebody who was already caught on strangulation and kidnapping charges, but they let him off.
Keon King, they let Keon King go.
They let him go to go kill Cadis Scott, allegedly kill Katis Scott.
And that could have been prevented.
If we had law and order in these cities, these horrible events could be prevented.
Yeah, totally.
I mean, yeah, you thumb through the Philadelphia City Code or Charlotte or wherever.
The laws are all there.
We could turn this off tomorrow.
This is all optional.
But it's these, like you said, these DAs just, again, operating in opposition to law and order and these sorts of things.
I guess we're kind of, you know, coming to a close here.
What would be your prescription, obviously, being a Philadelphia guy?
For all the people in the audience that live in these cities, I know the rhetoric among conservatives is get out of the cities, but a lot of people want to see their cities do well.
Like, again, as a country, you know, our cities are vital to our economy, our culture, these sorts of things.
What would be your prescription for someone living in a city like Philadelphia or New York or Chicago, these sorts of places, for how they can sort of work or operate, again, to move their city in the right direction?
Because I think a lot of people are very, rightfully so blackpilled on our cities.
I would say, first of all, I would say fight, fight, fight.
The cities are where we are going to determine if we enter a golden age of America or not.
So we need to stand up and we need to fight because the people before us, again, they sacrificed their life, liberty, and their sacred honor for this country.
So we can't stand down.
You can't just give radicals and violent criminals a place to be in their own land.
That's wrong.
Our cities are super important and they're a huge part of what makes America great and what will make America great again.
And secondly, I would say there are 180,000 registered Republicans in the city of Philadelphia.
About 220,000 people vote to elect the mayor.
So if all the Republicans get out to vote, at least in the city of Philadelphia, Republicans are going to have serious sway.
And then you look at the Democrats.
A lot of people are a registered Democrat.
And I talk to these people.
They're registered Democrat because they have to be for their jobs.
These are Democrats, the Democratic machine has such a stranglehold in these cities.
A lot of them people are willing to vote Republican.
So I would say we can't give up on the cities and there's a chance to make real ground in all of these cities.
And I know for a fact it can happen in Philadelphia.
And I'm going to see to it that we keep reporting truth on the ground, getting what's actually happening to people through social media.
And if anybody wants to support that mission, surgemedia.us.
And, you know, you can donate or you could just like and share our videos.
We're going to keep going.
I love it, dude.
Total patriot.
Well, before I let you go, I got to ask you, again, because there's so much anti-city rhetoric, I think, in the conservative media space right now.
Tell me what you love about Philadelphia.
What makes Philadelphians, Philadelphiers, whatever you guys use as a denonym?
What makes you guys special?
Because, you know, so much history in Philadelphia, but like give the people a white pill.
Why is Philly so vital and worth fighting for?
I would say the people.
I would say we have some radicals, but the community in Philadelphia and these people, again, are registered Democrats.
They are down-to-earth, hard-working people, and they make this country run.
And a lot of them are willing to vote Republican, but I love the people.
They support me.
They stop me on the street.
They shake my hand.
One person even bought me a coffee a couple of weeks ago.
Let's go.
But the people here are awesome and I'm happy to live here.
We have a very livable city in Philadelphia.
You look at places like New York where it's skyscraper, skyscraper.
Philadelphia is a good place to live and it's close to Washington, D.C. and New York.
So if Philadelphia can really become a law and order city, we're probably going to be the best city in the United States of America.
It's just going to take a lot of work.
I love it, dude.
I love it.
Well, Frank, where can people find you?
Surgemedia.us.
People can find our social medias on that website.
Also, if you just want to go to social media, Frank.scales on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, or SurgePhilly on social medias, Instagram, TikTok, Facebook.
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Not Facebook, Instagram and TikTok, SurgePhilly.
But frank.scales, surgemedia.us.
That's our website.
I love it.
Everyone go follow Frank, dude.
I can't give you a go birds, but I'm really appreciative of you hopping on the show, man.
I really appreciate it.
I will.
Go birds.
CD, appreciate you.
Thank you for having me.
Yeah, man.
It's an honor.
All righty.
Well, that was the great Frank Scales.
Yeah, that was really, it was cool to get him.
I mean, this story was everywhere.
It was all over my for you page.
It's just absolutely insane what's going on in this country.
It's one of those things that puts in perspective is that literally it could be anyone.
Frank is on the ground.
He's doing the work and everything.
But she views Frank the same way that she views you watching at home.
Anyone that is not down with the cause for these guys is an enemy, quite frankly.
That's really what it comes down to.
And it's just I really am at the point.
I don't know how we can share a country with these people anymore.
I mean, it's getting so, so ugly.
That's why on the show yesterday we talked about this.
It's why it's so vital that Trump really sends a message to Minneapolis because these leftists in Philly, these leftists in Portland, you know, wherever it may be, they're going to see that and they're going to see that, look, it's a different sheriff, new sheriff in town.
The tone has been set.
So with that, you can follow me on X and Instagram at RealTate Brown.
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