Tim Pool Daily Show - Narco Boat Double Strike Triggers MASSIVE Political Firestorm, Admiral To Be QUESTIONED By Congress

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Dec. 3, 2025 - Tim Pool Daily Show

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Narco Boat Double Strike Triggers MASSIVE Political Firestorm, Admiral To Be QUESTIONED By Congress

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tate brown ▲ ● ▼		What is going on guys?
		This is Tate Brown here holding it down.
		It is a beautiful, beautiful day here, just outside of our nation's capital.
		It is freezing, though.
		I'm still in the trailer.
		I am in the Joe Rogan trailer, and it is absolutely Baltic.
		For those who didn't see yesterday's episode, you might have noticed the new backdrop here, right?
		We're going to, you know, spruce things up.
		It's giving Bateman, Patrick Bateman, right now.
		That's not a permanent arrangement, but I mentioned it yesterday for Timcast viewers who are into the history of the show.
		This is the trailer where they filmed the infamous Timcast IRL episode.
		It was like Joe Rogan, Alex Jones, Blair White was there.
		He, she, a lot of history in this trailer.
		It is really, really something.
		We have a lot of stories on deck.
		You probably saw in the title.
		We are obviously going to finally dive into the double tap incident story, whatever you want to call it, coming out of the off the coast of Venezuela.
		There's now an admiral that is sort of being identified as the person who ordered that strike.
		So we'll get into that.
		We'll dive in.
		We'll see what's going on there.
		I also have a few interesting stories.
		There was one out of the UK.
		I know it's whatever.
		You already hear enough from across the pond, but this one I think you'll enjoy.
		They gave out their list of indicators and warnings for extreme right-wing individuals.
		The first one they listed was, describes themselves as patriots.
		So I think all of us, because I address you all as patriots, we would all be extremists in the UK, evidently.
		So we'll dive into that.
		And if we have time, we're going to dive into the a few indicators that things aren't going so well for the youth, particularly for young women.
		You know, we always hear about young men, this, that, and the other, but young women might be cooked.
		I don't know if you saw the news because artificial wombs are on the rise.
		They're all, you know, the lambs love it.
		The lambs, there's lambs spawning left and right out of these artificial wombs.
		Who knows?
		I mean, people want to play God.
		It could get ugly.
		But we'll dive in.
		We'll see if maybe how that's changing could change some social dynamics.
		That's if we have time.
		We'll get to that story.
		And we'll be joined at the half hour mark by Viva Fry.
		We want to talk about Jacketgate.
		I don't know if you guys seen Jacketgate.
		It is quite the story.
		There was an FBI memo that was circulating saying that Kash Patel, the FBI director, refused to get off the plane in Utah following the Kirk assassination until he had a properly fitting FBI jacket.
		It's red meat for a lot of people.
		It's an interesting story.
		He came on Laura Ingram's show.
		He came on Laura Ingram's show yesterday and discussed it.
		So we'll dive into that.
		We'll see what Viva has to say, and we'll get into some other things.
		There's the Pfizer Pfizer whistleblower investigation.
		So with that, I'm rambling on.
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	I don't know what's going on.
	Anyway, we're gonna get to this first story from the New York Times.
	After decades in combat, a seal suddenly comes under scrutiny.
	So I don't know if you've seen this story that's been brewing since about Sunday.
	In September, there was a strike on a narco boat off of the coast of Venezuela.
	As we know, the Trump administration have been conducting these strikes on these drug trafficking boats for what they say is an attempt to stymie the flow of drugs into the United States.
	Sorry about the cough.
	It's still cold in here.
	I think maybe I'm making myself sick.
	I don't know.
	But anyway, so yeah, these strikes have been going on.
	Well, they're alleging that in September 2nd, there was a strike on a boat and it incapacitated the boat and that there were still survivors hanging on to the wreckage of the boat.
	And then a second strike was ordered to neutralize what is being alleged were innocent civilians.
	That's debatable.
	Who knows?
	In my opinion, drug boat, middle of the night.
	What are you going for?
	Like a hitchhike?
	Like, what are we doing here?
	I also, I kind of share Matt Walsh's take.
	I just don't really care for double, like, if we're destroying, like, double striking these boats.
	Like, I know the legality, obviously.
	There's like international law and these sorts of things.
	But I agree with Matt Walsh on this one.
	I'm like, I just, I just really want to destroy them.
	A lot of people, the Timcast audience specifically will be, I would assume, mixed on this because I think generally the audience, you guys, are anti-intervention, anti-interventionalist.
	You know, we've all seen how we've been burned since the global war on terror, these sorts of things.
	But I also suspect that a lot of Timcast viewers, since I would say we as a, you know, unit are probably more aware of sort of these ground-level issues than I think a lot of these outlets.
	I think y'all support your participation in the show makes it very clear that I think Timcast viewers seem to be a little bit more aware of the opiate issue than most, I guess you would say fan bases, most sort of clicks around the space.
	So I would suspect that Timcast viewers are a bit split on the Venezuela strikes, these sorts of things.
	But, you know, there's something to be said about Americans.
	It's hard for us to get really worked up about this because we've seen so many pointless wars, so many just ridiculous interventions that, you know, the outcome was unclear.
	It was unclear what our goals were.
	It was unclear what we were going to gain, you know, from intervening or even just striking.
	In this instance, I think Americans, I think especially the base, I mean, I can say this anecdotally, like, know people that have struggled with drugs.
	Like, drugs have been, drug overdosing in this country is a huge, huge issue.
	Everyone can tell you, especially in more middle America, where I hail from.
	A lot of these small towns, you see it firsthand.
	It's the reality of the situation.
	And so it's really hard for us to put on our anti-intervention cap when it comes to Venezuela.
	Because first of all, A, it's in our neighborhood.
	Monroe Doctrine, that's like as old as America.
	It's 200-year-old doctrine.
	So it is our neighborhood.
	That's ours to handle.
	I wouldn't be surprised if the Trump administration, obviously Steve Witkoff and Trump, or Steve Witkoff was with, it was, I think Jared Kushner, Steve Witkoff, a few others were obviously in Russia negotiating.
	It went on like six hours, evidently.
	There was no deal was struck.
	This was being reported this morning.
	But I wouldn't be surprised if there was some sort of arrangement with the Trump administration where they say, okay, Cuba and Venezuela, that's ours.
	That's the United States.
	In exchange, maybe we'll turn the other way on Taiwan and Ukraine.
	That could be what plays out.
	All this to say, with the strikes in Venezuela, it's really hard, I think, for people to really care because Congress hasn't, like, these wars haven't benefited us at all.
	We can see an instance here where it's like, yeah, the drug problem is actually pretty bad.
	And these journals will cross the, they'll cross the roads and be like, actually, the majority of drugs that affect Americans are coming from Mexico.
	And it's like, yeah, if we can't bomb drug, like actual narco-terrorists in Venezuela, because the whole debate right now, the whole legal quagmire is that we're treating narco-terrorists as combatants, like war, like in a war.
	And that's the justification for the Trump administration to be conducting these strikes is saying, these are enemy combatants.
	We are bombing them, et cetera, et cetera.
	And obviously the mainstream media, Trump's opponents, et cetera, et cetera, are saying, no, these are civilians.
	We aren't at war with these drug gangs, these narco-terrorists.
	Like, you need congressional approval to conduct law enforcement.
	But then the mainstream ghouls, they'll come out and they'll say, well, this is pointless anyway, because all the drugs are coming through Mexico.
	My question is, if we can't bomb literal narco-terrorists in Venezuela, who are very obviously enemies of the United States in so many ways, then how do you expect us to conduct operations in Mexico?
	Like the cartels, they're very bad, but they're creating the precedent that anyone involved in narcotics trafficking is off-limits for military intervention.
	That is off-limits for a strike.
	In Venezuela, it's very cut and dry because Venezuela is an enemy of the United States, geopolitically speaking.
	If we can't conduct operations to protect national security with Venezuelan narco-traffickers, then that precedent won't, the precedent's gone.
	We won't be able to strike these cartels either.
	So you have to start somewhere.
	And Venezuela, it's a much easier justification because, like I said, they're a geopolitical foe.
	I don't suspect, because it just hasn't happened thus far in the Trump administration, one or two.
	I don't suspect there's going to be this regime change operation that a lot of people are fearing.
	Just A, I mean, that's just not in the Trump administration's favor, benefit.
	They would have nothing to gain by getting involved in a endless war in Venezuela.
	They know that.
	They're aware of that.
	I mean, Marco Rubio is not an idiot.
	They're just putting max pressure on Maduro.
	I mean, it's not, you know, from the Trump administration's perspective, Maduro, yeah, it'd be nice if he was out of the way.
	It would be great if we didn't have enemy states in our hemisphere.
	It's, you know, that's how you put America first.
	That's how you conduct affairs is you have the hemisphere under your control.
	So let's read from the New York Times a little bit into the story.
	Admiral Frank M. Bradley will soon face questions from lawmakers as Republicans and Democrats express concerns about a September 2nd attack on a boat in the Caribbean.
	During his career, Admiral Frank Mitchell Bradley, a stoic cerebral seal known as Mitch to his peers, has ordered and carried out military strikes against targets in Afghanistan, Yemen, and other war zones.
	Over the decades, he drew little attention outside the smoke and mirrors world of military special operations, but he is now facing his biggest professional challenge in public.
	After years of following orders with the clearest rules of engagement and congressional authority, targeting jihadists in rural and urban settings, Admiral Bradley was put in the command of the legally murky attack on the September 2nd targeting of a boat in the Caribbean that the Trump administration says was smuggling drugs.
	And in ordering a second strike that killed two survivors who were clinging on to the burning records of the boat, something his superiors say they did not specifically order him to do.
	Admiral Bradley now finds himself in legal jeopardy.
	And then we'll see here.
	I'll get a recall on you.
	Don't worry.
	It's going to happen.
	On Thursday, he will head to Capitol Hill for a closed-door session with lawmakers as Republicans and Democrats express concern about the Trump administration's campaign.
	At the time of the September 2nd attack, Admiral Bradley was beginning the last month of his tour as the head of the Joint Special Operations Command, which conducts some of the military's most special missions and preparing to assume the command of the U.S. Special Operations Command, a job he took in October.
	So, yeah, we had this.
	This was from Sunday.
	Trump was being asked by reporters.
	This is from Fox News.
	Whether he would have approved a second strike if Hegseth had ordered one.
	And Trump said, no, I wouldn't have wanted that, not a second strike.
	So this was on Sunday.
	And this is when questions started to be asked.
	If Trump is denying it, and Hegseth also is saying, no, Hegseth was saying, I was in the room for the first strike.
	I can't sit around for three hours.
	Like, I have things to do just to monitor the strike of a boat in the Caribbean.
	I mean, this is kind of inconsequential for, you know, what the Secretary of War's day-to-day affairs would look like.
	So he said, no, I was there for the first strike.
	I ordered it, et cetera, et cetera.
	And yeah, and he was away.
	And, you know, the people he trusts were in charge of sort of conducting operations there.
	And then this is when the second strike allegedly took place.
	And yeah, the fingers are being pointed here at Admiral Bradley.
	Now, the Trump administration is defending these strikes.
	I mean, I made the case earlier of, you know, why it's kind of hard to really get upset about sort of these things, the legally murkiness, legal murkiness, because it's like, hey, these are anyone that's experienced what drugs have done to this country.
	It's kind of hard to really work up.
	Like, yeah, you really want to bomb some boats.
	I'll put it that way.
	But also, yeah, the legality.
	I mean, I think narco-terrorists are actually a very valid target for military operations.
	So we're conducting operations similar to what we did in the Global War on Terror as far as strikes from a distance, these sorts of things.
	The missile that hit the boat on September 2nd was launched from Trinidad.
	So, yeah, these aren't like hot conflicts.
	We're not like running up on them with SEALs or anything like that.
	That's happening to some degree, but that's not what happened here.
	So all this to say, the libs, obviously, are thinking there's blood in the water here.
	They're going to try and turn this into some sort of way to stop Trump from conducting his policy, which has happened a lot.
	In this specific case, they obviously want him to...
	The Democrats are going and defending drug traffickers.
	That's really what's going on.
	If we really cut through that, it's not going to be much of a surprise for many of you listening.
	It's kind of their MO is to defend literally like the most villainous people on planet Earth.
	At this point, it's fairly routine for them.
	But we'll see what Senator Tim Kaine had to say regarding his thoughts on the legality of the strike and who ordered it.
	You may remember Tim Kaine as the guy who was always in and around Hillary Clinton, maybe not in, who knows, around Hillary Clinton in 2016.
	He was the vice presidential candidate.
	We'll see what he has to say here.
	Let me make sure the audio is working as well.
unidentified		And he says, Senator, what do you make of Secretary Hegseth saying today that he not only did not order the second strike, a follow-on strike, that he did not even see a second strike or see any survivors?
tim kaine ▲ ● ▼		Well, Jake, look, I think all of these operations are illegal because there's been no congressional vote to authorize war in the Caribbean, the Pacific, or against Venezuela.
		So let's start there.
		But let's drill down on the second strike.
		The Defense Department's own law of war manual specifically says that it would be illegal to shoot survivors of a shipwreck.
		And we have prosecuted people from the Nuremberg trial forward if they attack wounded combatants on the field.
		You do not have a license to wantonly slaughter wounded combatants.
		And as far as I read, Secretary Hegseth, he's not denying that he gave the kill everybody order.
		That would be a war crime if he did.
		He's now trying to push responsibility off on his special forces commander, Admiral Bradley.
		But I think that most people read his statements, you know, saying that the whole thing was fabricated last week to now acknowledging it's true, acknowledging it's true and pushing it off on a subordinate.
		Real leaders don't push off responsibility onto their subordinates.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so suddenly the Democrats are full-blown supporters of the military, of our veterans, of like doing four interventions the right way.
		They're going to try, they're going to try and turn this Admiral into sort of a martyr of the Trump administration.
		They haven't really gotten one yet.
		I don't know if you remember like the first term.
		There was martyrs left and right, people that got tossed out of the Trump administration rather unceremoniously, and they were turned into martyrs, or they were on the receiving end of some sort of action, and they would quickly be turned into martyrs by the media.
		Term two, there hasn't really been one yet.
		We haven't really gotten like this martyr who the Democrats can sort of adopt as their own.
		It just hasn't happened.
		I guess sort of James Comey, but he was already kind of an op anyway, so it doesn't really matter.
		So I don't know.
		I don't think this Admiral is because, again, the Trump administration, the memos that have been circulating are saying, hey, these strikes are insulating everyone that's conducting them from prosecution.
		This is a war.
		We're at war with these narco-terrorists.
		We're conducting these operations to protect American lives.
		So yeah, I would be curious to see Thursday how that plays out.
		What we hear coming out because there's also a lot of Republicans that are interested in chatting to him.
		Regardless, again, I'm taking the Matt Walsh line here.
		It's really hard to care about a double tap.
		This just seems like red meat for the Democrats.
		I think we should have no mercy for these drug traffickers.
		Quite frankly, I think this is the polite response.
		I think what I would like to see happen to these people can't even be said on Rumble, let alone YouTube.
		So, yeah, Godspeed Hegseth and crew.
		I think it's the correct decision to be making.
		So with that, we will get into the next story here.
		This is from the Army in the United Kingdom.
		This helpful cheat sheet.
		Just wanted to explore this with you guys to see maybe if you are a right-wing extremist.
		It seems like every sensible person actually is classified as such in 2025.
		Let's see what the British Army sort of suspects would make you a right-wing extremist.
		I'll read the commentary here from this poster, Ant Middleton.
		The MOD are losing control of the junior and senior NCOs with this BS being forced upon them.
		We have well and truly been compromised at the highest level.
		The ranks are unsettled.
		This is never a good sign.
		Change has to happen within if we want to save our country.
		Man, I'm very thankful.
		It's kind of hard.
		People, you know, black pillow in the United States quite quickly every time the Trump administration makes a bad decision or something like that.
		Things are really, really bad across the West.
		And I mean, we talked about it yesterday with Tommy Robinson.
		You know, a rising tide does raise all boats, lifts all boats.
		So, you know, the fact that the Trump administration not only takes the boot off of the neck of, you know, right-wing groups in and around the UK, but I mean, they actively help.
		They actively help the British Patriots in their quest to sort of push back the uniparty that they have there.
		So let's take a look.
		Let's see.
		We'll see if you're a right-wing extremist.
		Yeah, we'll take a look here.
		We can do a drinking game.
		I'll do a drinking game with my tea here.
		Tazo tea.
		So we'll take a look here.
		So take a drink every time the British Army classifies you as a right-wing extremist.
		Describes themselves as patriots.
		Bottoms up.
		Adds a stan to British place names.
		I literally put Londa Stan in one of the titles on the culture war the other day.
		So describes multicultural towns as lost.
		That's me.
		If you're drinking at 12 p.m., I respect that.
		You know, it's 8 a.m. somewhere.
		Have tattoos with overt and covert XRW iconography.
		I don't have any tattoos.
		So that's the first one I missed out on.
	We're getting a little bit of FOMO.
	But hey, congrats if you've gone 4 for 4 so far.
	Looks at opponents as traitors.
	Yeah, so true.
	Uses the term Islamofascism.
	I don't, but I gotta add that to the arsenal.
	That's good.
	What do you guys think?
	Islamo fascism?
	I like that.
	I might add, you know, that sounds kind of interesting.
	Islamo fascism?
	That kind of sounds like, I don't know.
	It sounds interesting to me.
	I'd be interested to see it used in a sentence.
	You know, you go like spelling bee on these people and make them use it in a sentence.
	Anyway, four for six so far.
	How are you guys doing?
	You doing okay?
	Discusses the creation of white-only communities.
	Okay.
	This one puts me in a bind.
	What about communities where no speakerphone music is being played?
	That's not explicitly white-only, but it's going to sort of end up that way.
	What about communities with regular avocado toast, you know, options, gluten-free options?
	Again, that's not advocating for a white-only community.
	That's just saying it will sort of end up that way.
	I don't know.
	I think indirectly, yeah, I guess I advocate for banning people from speakerphone in public on public transportation.
	So by proxy, that would be me advocating for a white-only community.
	So, okay, I'll drink.
	You got me.
	Become increasingly angry at perceived injustices or threats to so-called national identity.
	Yep.
	I'm just going to stop drinking at this point.
	We'll just count.
	Yes.
	Refers to individuals ready to challenge their XRW views as being indoctrinated.
	True.
	Me.
	Makes generalizations about Muslims and Jews.
	I do that all the time.
	I make generalizations about everyone, but those are like two of my favorites to make generalizations about.
	So, yeah, that's me.
	That's probably you.
	I don't know.
	Is that you?
	Maybe.
	Claim that immigration is the root of injustices against vulnerable people.
unidentified		So true.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Even the State Department agrees with me on that.
		That's so true.
		Dude, this is great.
		This is like, I would distribute this sheet to anyone that's getting into politics.
		It'd be like, hey, you need to adopt all of these.
		That's going to make you correct on, objectively correct on every issue.
		I love this.
		Invite, involve colleagues in closed social media groups.
		Like a group chat?
		Being in a group chat with the boys, a right-wing extremist?
		That makes you a white, right-wing extremist now?
		How are we supposed to do a fantasy football draft without being right-wing extremist?
		I don't get that.
		That one's gay.
		Refer to political correctness as some left-wing or communist plot.
		So true.
		Yeah, it is.
		A duh, communist?
		Totally.
		It's actually Islamo-fascist.
		Using that now.
		It's my new term.
		Make inaccurate generalizations about the left or government.
		I don't do that.
		We've missed another one.
		I make accurate generalizations about the left and government.
		They're demonic.
		Threaten violence when losing an argument.
		Although claiming that XRW groups protest peacefully.
		Do I do that?
		Do I get like, do I chimp out when I lose an argument?
		Not so much on politics.
		Yeah, if you're like, when I'm with the boys and I, like, I get like, you know, we're discussing like best white wide receivers of the 2010s and nobody's going for my Danny Amendola shout.
		I get a little violent.
		I get a little violent.
		Okay, that's fair.
		Actively seek out impressionable individuals to indoctrinate or recruit.
		I don't do that because I'm only associate with patriots.
		None of them are impressionable.
		They're all red-blooded American patriots.
		So can't relate.
		So I guess I'm missing out on that one.
		Use blatantly untruthful or incorrect references to immigrants, Judaism, or Islam.
		Okay, no, everything I say is truthful and correct.
		So that doesn't apply to me, but I do make, yeah, back to the generalizations thing.
		Talk of a impending racial conflict or race war.
		I mean, I talk about it.
		I don't think it's going to happen, but I talk about it because, like, I'm kind of like, I'm wondering, yeah, you know what?
		I'm just going to wheel up on that.
		I'm not going to talk about that.
		Claim that it is acceptable to abuse Jews or Muslims as Judaism and Islam are not races.
		Are they saying abuse like physically?
		Yeah, we shouldn't abuse anyone.
		But they typically perceive abuse as just vaguely critical of the fact that they're not Christian, which that's not abuse.
		That's evangelism.
		That's like a really good thing.
		You should be alarmed if a Christian has not attempted to evangelize you yet.
		That means that they don't love you.
		Or that they're a bad Christian.
		So, no, that's not abuse.
		If that's probably what they're referring to, it's not abuse.
		If they're talking about hitting people or like screaming at them in public, yeah, okay, that's that's ridiculous.
		Um, have extreme XRW group stickers or badges or clothing and personnel items.
		Um, again, they, in England, they would, they would define like the St. George's cross, like the English flag as an extremist thing.
	So, again, just ridiculous.
	That's gonna like that's gonna, you know, like snag half the population.
	Um, I have a I have an Ed Ed and Eddie sticker on my computer at home.
	I think that would make me an extreme right-wing extremist.
	So, well, how'd you guys do?
	How'd you perform?
	I think I missed like four, four or five, but I think overall I would be considered extreme right-wing.
	So, yeah, that's sick.
	So, before we get into the interview, I just wanted to give Rahag Nationalist to put some commentary on here.
	I thought it was pretty funny.
	When I did officer selection for the army just before the pandemic, we had to do a discussion about Megan Rapino and whether she was right about equal pay for sports women.
	We also had gender-neutral fitness tests.
	You couldn't even fail.
	Embarrassing.
	As far as I know, this is still the case in Britain.
	It's getting worse.
	So all this to say, I'm just putting this in perspective because we just had multiple pieces or a big story sort of calling into question the actions of our Department of War.
	I wanted to paint the picture to show you how bad things are globally.
	We're actually, we're not in too bad of shape ourselves.
	So with that, we're going to head on over to our interview portion with the great Viva Fry.
	I do want to tip it off with this story.
	Jacketgate.
	Oh my gosh.
	Can you believe it?
	Can you believe it?
	Jacketgate.
	This is really something.
	So Laura Ingram brought on Kash Patel sort of to ask him about Jacketgate, the private plane.
	There's been accusations that he's also taking a private plane everywhere on the taxpayer dollar.
	This specifically was Ingram asking about the Jacket story.
	Take a look here, and we'll bring Viva in.
	We'll bring Viva in to see what he thinks about this video.
unidentified		We'll see.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		How do you think Ingram did in this interview?
		Do you think she pushed back hard enough?
		What do you think?
		You watch and tell me.
laura ingraham ▲ ● ▼		You mentioned the thing about the patches and the gossipy stuff, which I know you laughed it off on Twitter, but on X, but they said, oh, he refused to get off the plane in Utah after Charlie Kirk's assassination because he wanted a better-fitting FBI raid jacket.
		Is that true?
		And does fashion really make the man, Cash?
kash patel ▲ ● ▼		It's 100% false, as you know.
		Look, Laura, sadly, I was at 9-11 at Ground Zero in New York City on 9-11 because I was a White House representative honoring those victims and their names being read.
		You are very familiar with that.
		Then we made the immediate decision after Charlie got shot in the neck to fly to Utah unexpectedly to lead the manhunt to find the perpetrator in less than 33 hours because the FBI cut video, put it out in a press conference, and these people are worried about what I was wearing and what patches I was wearing.
		I was honoring my men and women at the FBI.
		One of my agents handed me a jacket and said, hey, boss, you should probably wear this.
		We're going to the command center.
		I said, I'd be honored to wear that.
		And then another one handed me the SWAT team badge of the unit that was protecting the area where Charlie was assassinated.
		I wore that with pride.
		These people can talk about my appearances all they want, but look at the results.
		The FBI, this FBI, my FBI, the one that Dan and I are building here under President Trump, is succeeding in ways that no FBI has ever done so before.
		So the institutionalists and the anonymous reporters from the swamp DC bureaucracy are the ones we are crushing.
		And that's how I know we're winning.
		And if Eric Swaba wants to come online and talk about what jacket size I wear, I'm happy to send him a women's medium so him and Fang Fang can go out again.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, do we believe, do we believe cashier?
		It's kind of a little tricky.
		We're going to bring Viva Fry in.
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tate brown ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, we are back here.
		We are back and we have the great Viva Fry.
		Viva, how is it going, my friend?
		I am doing all right.
		Let's let me get this going here.
		Oh, wait.
		What is we have another issue here?
		Output.
		Yeah, I see you.
		Let me punch this up.
		We have this weird let me see.
unidentified		Um crap.
unidentified		Okay.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		One second, Viva.
		My apologies.
		I'll get this sorted in one second.
		No, no.
		We're live, but uh, I'm trying to get this sorted here.
unidentified		I don't know what the issue is.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, yeah, the audio is not feeding onto their end, so it would just be uh, it would be yeah this is so weird.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Why isn't it working?
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Right, no, it's it's it's on ours.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Um let me try this.
viva frei ▲ ● ▼		Okay, your audio is out also.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's it's my something to do with my output.
unidentified		Um I have no idea.
unidentified		I have no idea what's going on.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		I don't have a producer all right, Vivo.
		I'm at the drop you for a second and I'll see if I can get this figured out.
		I appreciate the patience.
		be right back
		okay it should be it should be feeding now okay i don't think it's One more second, sorry.
viva frei ▲ ● ▼		It's funny, I had a technical problem on Rumble Studio this morning, but it...
unidentified		right.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		I think I think we're back.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Okay, I think we're in.
viva frei ▲ ● ▼		I said she was your grandma's car was upside down when I got here, and she shouldn't have mailed off like that.
unidentified		Oh, well, I don't know if we have video yet, but um, we have video.
viva frei ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we do have video.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Okay, this is like a normal, this is a normal take.
viva frei ▲ ● ▼		This is something I got rebooted.
		All right, good.
		How goes the battle?
		You're uh, I like, look, I like seeing other people stress out every now and again.
unidentified		It makes me feel good, man.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		I, that, that was uh, that was a gauntlet.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		You know, maybe it's good, maybe it's good to like stress test the uh the body a little bit.
viva frei ▲ ● ▼		Well, I always say, like, with kids, like you want to see how they react under pressure.
		You like and you see if they react well to stress or not.
		And if they don't, then you have to train them to uh but anyways, it's fine.
		Like, technical issues happen all the time.
		I'm just glad no one's gonna say boomer viva in the chat because my marketing.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		It is this was the boomer, gets the W here.
		It's the zoomer drop the ball here.
		This is really, really unprecedented.
		Fiva, I had to bring you in.
		We were covering Jacketgate.
		What's your assessment of all?
		It's kind of hard to gauge in this environment who's incentivized to say what.
viva frei ▲ ● ▼		Well, look, approach it all with a healthy degree of skepticism.
		Jacket Gate, I presume we're talking about Kash Patel allegedly refusing to get off the plane unless he had a...
		First of all, there is the old expression, if you're explaining, you're losing.
		And I sort of adhere to that.
		The longer the response has to be, or the longer the response is, you know, A, the more stuff you say that people can use against you.
		And B, it tends not to be the sign of confidence.
		You know, I went through that article yesterday or the day before.
		I said he had a very good steelman argument.
		It's a question of professionalism.
		I forgot my jacket.
		Woe is me.
		I would prefer not to get off the plane without being in proper uniform.
		Bang.
		End of story.
		Instead, I mean, what they've gone into, disgruntled employees at the FBI, you know, lying about stuff to journalists who are running hit pieces.
		First of all, if that's true, and even if that is true, that in and of itself is a bit of the problem.
		If you've got a bunch of TDS-afflicted rogue FBI agents who are trying to throw the current deputy director and director under the bus, purge the FBI of that radical TDS element, which hasn't been done, which has been one of the criticisms against the directorship of Kash Patel is he seems very happy to have absorbed this team instead of purged this team.
		But my goodness, either laugh it off, I don't say ignore it, or have a very short answer, which is, yeah, I wanted to look professional getting off.
		I forgot my jacket, and I would have preferred to have gotten off the plane with the proper uniform.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		That seems to have been the problem with a lot of these Trump officials is they overexplain everything.
		And I suspect it's because they kind of come from the new media space where you kind of have to be able to monologue a diatribe and really flush things out.
		When you're in the position of power, a lot of times you don't need to give an over-explanation.
		A, the American people a lot of times don't care.
		And B, it just gets you into an innocuous situation, turns it into a scandal.
viva frei ▲ ● ▼		Well, absolutely.
		But also like over-explanations under some circumstances and then underexplanations in others.
		By contrast, it becomes a problem.
		All right.
		Thanks for the lengthy explanation about the jacket.
		Now can you talk about the reporting from Tucker Carlson on Thomas Crooks?
		Can you imagine other than, you know, a little demonizing of Tucker Carlson and then no answer to that after getting community noted by.
		So it is in and of itself, the lengthier the response, the more the risk you say something a false be stupid, embarrassing, whatever.
		But by contrast to where we need substantive, more detailed answers that we're not getting, it becomes even more shocking by comparison.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely.
		The Crooks thing was, that was so interesting to me because that was fantastic work from Tucker Carlson and it hasn't been picked up.
		And I would assume Trump obviously really wants some answers here.
		It's kind of bizarre to see that that's not, you know, like an explanation for what happened there isn't a priority.
		It doesn't seem like it's a priority.
viva frei ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's mildly shocking and we'll revert to the old maxim of never attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence.
		You know, you had Tucker Carlson come out with that expose.
		And if anybody hasn't seen it, go watch it.
		94% of it is new, is old.
		But the 6% I just took a random number is new.
		The videos of Thomas Crooks and the demonstrable evidence of a social media footprint is relatively new or at the very least new that it's been confirmed.
		You had three journalists.
		You had, I want to say Miranda Devine, but I know Breanna Morello and another who had access to the information where we were told by the former Biden FBI at the time he had no social media footprint.
		Dan Bongino was as in disbelief as the rest of us.
		It made no sense.
		It's totally implausible for a 21-year-old or however old this kid was to not have a social media footprint.
		It's exposed by Tucker Carlson.
		And instead of meaningful, substantive addressing it, they try to demonize Tucker Carlson and then sweep it under the rug.
		The question is this, why?
		Is it as a result, are they embarrassed or are they uncomfortable that they haven't been able to either get this out or flesh it out or act on it?
		I don't think they're in on any bought out, corrupt.
		It might just be that they don't have control over this FBI and that they're getting bad information both on crooks, on the Jan 6 pipe bomber.
		And it's embarrassing that they can't get the good information out of their own agency while celebrating, at least Cash, you know, while celebrating how it is amazing to have this 36,000 people who just want to be good cops.
		Two-thirds of them hate Kash Patel and Dan Bongino and would like to see them impeached, convicted, and removed from their position.
		So I don't know how you reconcile those two things, but I think what we're seeing is sort of the consequences of not having control over what all of us believe to be a thoroughly corrupt institution that needs to be purged, if not dismantled entirely.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I think when they came in, they anticipated that everybody would be under their thumb quite easily.
		We saw, obviously, right away they wanted to get an early win.
		They did the Epstein binders thing.
		And then that kind of turned out to not be so much of a W.
		And I think that moment, they've been a little more skittish after that.
		I think they've kind of realized like, oh, wow, it takes a lot longer than a few weeks to reorient the entire Intel community away from punishing like the right.
viva frei ▲ ● ▼		Well, it requires, I don't, the term, it's not my term, but you know, the Sunday where they fire everybody.
		It requires a thorough purging.
		It doesn't require a new building and patting on the back of people who, how many people are still at that FBI that were responsible for or involved in RussiaGate, that were responsible for or involved in what I believe to be the Fed surrection of January 6th?
		And some of them seem to be getting, you know, when you get promoted or cross-hired by the CIA.
		And so you have these lengthy explanations, these very defensive, bombastic replies on a very friendly Fox News.
		And then you have zero response to Steve Baker's January 6th expose.
		Zero response other than trying to discredit Tucker Carlson.
		And very little to say on Epstein.
		And, you know, the other breaking news from this week was an email involving Dan Bongino where they were talking about redactions.
		And it's funny because you could have proactively spun that to say, yeah, we were proactively trying to figure out the redactions to get this documentation out there.
		I think it made Bongino look good.
		I think it makes Pam Bondi look bad in addition to everything else.
		And this is the problem.
		It seems that you have discord infighting within, or at least disagreement within the institution itself, that it looks like Pam Bondi is doing things, or maybe Todd Blanche, that are undermining the credibility of Patel and Bongino.
		It looks like you have some form of disagreement between Patel and Tulsi Gabbard at the ODNI and Joe Kent, who wanted to look into some terrorist angle potentially of the Charlie Kirk assassination.
		And you got someone who wants his authority to be respected, Kash Patel saying, no, don't encroach on my domain here.
		Look, they've done a lot of good work.
		Give them credit where they deserve credit.
		The bottom line, I think most people don't view the FBI as a law enforcement agency, nor do I think that's what it should be.
		That's up to the state law enforcement.
		And the FBI, Kash Patel was intending to get in there and turn the Edgar Hoover building into a deep state museum.
		I didn't know that what he meant by that was making a bigger, nicer office for that, which he just interred in the museum.
		So They seem to be, at least Patel seems to be getting a little bit rick-rolled or steamrolled by an unfriendly rank and file that he seems to think is loyal to him, which I don't think they are.
		And I think it's been corrupt.
		And I think he was right when he said beginning, we got to gut it, we got to empty it, we got to turn it into a museum and not try to turn this monster into our own monster.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely.
		I mean, we're seeing article after article where there's an anonymous source here, you know, office official here, officer there.
		And it's like clearly the upper ranks of the Intel community he does not have under control.
		I don't even know if these people are aligned or not, or if they just have a personal gripe with him.
		I mean, it feels like total disarray.
viva frei ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm skeptical of anonymous sources and not more trusting of them because they say something that I already might believe or might think is true.
		But you can just tell from the actions of the DOJ.
		And this is why I put the blame more on Bondi than Patel.
		If there were saboteurs in the administration who wanted to cause people to lose faith, even more so, not in the FBI, but rather in the new two heads of the FBI, the hypothetical question I ask is: you know, what would such saboteurs have asked the FBI to do that they haven't basically already done?
		When they come up with that unsigned memo trying to tell everybody to believe the narrative that Epstein killed himself, nothing more to see here, and then say that everyone signed off on it when Todd Blanch says that, even though nobody signed off on it, you are throwing Patel and Bongino under a bus where, especially Bongino, who's now, say, fourth in line of hierarchy here, can't say what he really wants to say.
		Sort of alluded to that yesterday with a post on Twitter in terms of not, you know, being a leader and not being able to really freely defend yourself because A, he's now the deputy director, not the director, and he works for the federal government.
		He's not free to express his own cynicism and skepticism.
		But it's been sort of on the big issues, debacle after debacle after debacle.
		It's good on the law enforcement side of things.
		The argument's going to be that that's not really the FBI's successes, but rather their partners, their state partners.
		But they're doing good work on fentanyl, human trafficking, and day-to-day crime.
		The big stuff, Butler, Jan 6, Epstein, these were the litmus test questions.
		It's been an abject disaster.
		And if you have anonymous people issuing complaints, you could take it with a grain of salt, or you can say it fits into the pieces that we already know definitively.
		And they've got to start writing this ship.
		And it might start with some purging.
		I don't know how you do that with the FBI, but that's what it might start with.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		Well, and the problem is it's not just isolated to the Intel community as far as the ramifications for these embarrassing stories coming out because it creates distractions.
		Like the Trump administration, they have so many irons in the fire and so many different fires.
		And stories like this, just Fox News has to, you know, expend time to cover this story when it's not, it's just not, it's a total distraction from what should be, what should be taking focus on the Ingram on Laurie Ingram show.
		You know what I mean?
		So that's frustrating.
viva frei ▲ ● ▼		That question from Ingram is like, look, this, there's softball, and then there's, you know, there's, there's best friends having a discussion, passing it off as news.
		How has there not been a discussion on the Jan 6 expose?
		Like, and this is what people care about.
		There were 1,400 pardons that had to be issued because of how abusive the Biden DOJ was, how corrupt the Biden FBI was.
		1,400 pardons, give or take, that had to be issued.
		And yet now no one has been prosecuted for what was such an injustice.
		It required pardons to absolve the victims of that abuse.
		And so, like, zero.
		Five years later, we're nearing the statute of limitations.
		Zero news, zero movement on the pipe bomber.
		The Comey indictment, which has now been tossed and they'll reinstate it or they'll amend it because they have a certain timeframe within which to do it.
		Two piddly crap charges against James Comey, nothing on the 8647, nothing on the deep state actors that sought to bankrupt, jail, and kill the now president of the United States of America.
		And it's nice.
		The law enforcement element of it is good, but that's not the reform that the people wanted and were promised from the new direction of the FBI under Kash Patel.
		You know, the American gangster dismantle it, turn it into a museum.
		And it really looks like it's become something of a, I want to say an ego trip, but it looks like it's become something of a now I'm leader of this big institution, and that is what I'm going to hang my hat on.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely.
		My one question is there's obviously a lot of people, maybe not super prominent, but you're starting to hear some people start to discuss like, well, maybe he's not the guy.
		You know, maybe it's time to make a change.
		My whole thing is like, with the current dynamics in the Senate, I mean, what are the odds that you can even get an upgrade?
		Like, if we're looking at personnel changes, I mean, I think people need to sort of realize where we are as a country.
		Like, you're not going to get an upgrade.
		I don't think.
		I think they're good.
		At least they, you know, take direction from Trump.
		I mean, the first term, that was the big issue and all these rogue officials.
viva frei ▲ ● ▼		You know, they take direction from Trump when Trump allegedly or apparently publicly truth posts what was allegedly a private message to Pam Bondi.
		And when Raunch Patel comes out on Fox News and says, of course, or it was Catherine Herridge, of course, Trump's happy with the work that we're doing.
		I'd like to hear Trump say that.
		At some point, there was a lot of shuffling of the cabinet back the first time around.
		People don't necessarily, there's no shame in saying, okay, well, we can do better.
		And Andrew Bailey is there.
		He could replace either Cash or Pam Bondi.
		The only real question, in my view, is who does the buck stop with?
		Everyone's going to say it stops with the president, yes.
		But when you're managing the biggest corporate entity in the world, basically, the federal government, you can't possibly know what's going on all the time in all aspects of it.
		And you get a little insulated in D.C.
		I think some of the mistakes are very much with Pam Bondi as the attorney general.
		And I think she should be replacing.
		She should have been replaced even before the Epstein debacle.
		I was mentioning the Pfizer.
		There's a Brooke Jackson KTAM case.
		It's called a fraud case brought by a citizen on behalf of a government against Pfizer for the fraud that Pfizer is alleged to have committed in the context of the COVID research and development and rollout of the vaccine.
		The Biden administration came in years after that fraud lawsuit was instituted by a whistleblower and killed it, terminated that lawsuit.
		And the Trump DOJ is apparently defending that dismissal of the KTAM lawsuit, fraud suit against Pfizer.
		And you have a different administration that has a different perspective on health, on COVID, and yet the DOJ is still defending Biden-era prosecutions, Biden-era persecutions, and Biden-era suppression of legitimate lawsuits.
		And the question is, how, why, and does Trump even know that this is going up?
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		I mean, yeah, it's unfortunate because Trump's, I would say, his primary mandate was obviously immigration.
		So anything that takes his focus and other assets away from that issue, we're burning valuable capital.
		I mean, you have so much political capital you can spend and we're burning it on these sorts of incidents and stories.
viva frei ▲ ● ▼		No, well, absolutely.
		His primary thing, you know, the primary thing, there were a number of them, but yeah, immigration is one.
		And it's been, I won't say a smashing success, but he's been making a lot of headway on that and revealing the judicial activism, the absolute political and judiciary corruption that is preventing a president from being president.
		But there was, you know, rooting out the deep state and draining the swamp was, you know, number one promise 2016, number two promise 2020.
		It needs to be done now.
		And I don't think the administration fully appreciates if there's a massive shift and swing in the midterms.
		And if the Democrats ever take power in 2028, it's going to be what they've been doing for the last decade on steroids.
		And they have a very small window of opportunity to maintain the coalition and to purge the corruption out of the government and out of the Democrat Party and to some extent out of the Republican Party as well.
		And instead of doing that, unfortunately, Trump is fighting with Thomas Massey and Marjorie Taylor Greene instead of using them and their populist base to really affect the deep change that is required in American politics.
		So all this to say is my criticism is not destructive criticism.
		It's constructive criticism and it's to ensure that this administration succeeds on its promises, does not fragment to the extent it already hasn't been done, the coalition and lose the midterms badly and then possibly lose 2028 entirely.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely.
		We've got to get focused.
		I mean, this is we're running out of time.
		There's a the rabbit with the clock meme.
		It's very salient right now.
		But Viva, thank you so much for hopping on.
		Thank you for bearing through the tech.
viva frei ▲ ● ▼		I would stay five minutes longer.
		I'd stay longer, but my wife and kid need me to take them somewhere.
		And a happy wife is a happy life, so I'm going to go make sure I get the kids where he needs to be.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		So true.
		Well, thank you, Viva.
		Where can people find you to get more?
viva frei ▲ ● ▼		VivaFry Twitter, vivabarnslaw.locals.com in locals and viva fry on rumble.
viva frei ▲ ● ▼		I'll be live at three o'clock daily and today especially.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Awesome.
		Well, thank you so much, Viva.
		See you next time.
unidentified		God speed.
		All right.
		Bye-bye.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		All righty, guys.
		Well, that was the great Viva Fry, and we had a good chat.
		We got it going eventually.
		Oh, dude, it's the new studio.
		You know, I appreciate some people in the crowd were saying, like, these things happen.
		They shouldn't happen, though.
		You know, we got to get this sorted.
		We got to put together a good program for you guys.
		So I'm going to get with the team, figure out what went wrong, and get that sorted going forward.
		We kind of have a stopgap in place at the moment.
		But we'll get it going here, get things sorted, make this studio viable because it would be really nice because we already have a lot going on, a lot of projects ramping up here at Timcast that are occupying quite a bit of Tim's time.
		And so, you know, we had to start having these conversations of like, look, we might need to start taking things off of your plate because he does work like a lot.
		I've tried to keep up with his schedule a few times and I come home and I'm just wiped out.
		So that dude, my goodness, that dude is a workhorse.
		You know, there's a reason why he is where he is.
		I mean, you know, because I'm new to the game, obviously.
		You guys can tell I'm new to the game just based off of my various tendencies.
		I'm certainly very new to the game, low profile.
		Meeting someone like Tim, obviously, like I grew up.
		I mean, I watched Tim throughout high school and whatnot.
		And so, you know, you saw him as this, you know, really big, big figure, big player as he is.
		When you meet him, you realize it's earned.
		Like, when you start working with him on a day-to-day basis, you realize it's earned.
		And, you know, I don't know if that's always the case.
		I think a lot of people are maybe right place, right time.
		They get lucky, you know, they get a big break, these sorts of things.
		Tim is 100%, I mean, talent, the talent's there, obviously.
		But the willpower, I mean, he just wills things to happen just by grinding, like legitimately, just putting his head down and working.
		So all this to say, that's why you're seeing me a lot now for this noon live spot is we're trying to sort of recapture the essence of the Timcast live while sort of making it work where I can step in and get it done.
		Just obviously, you know, a little bit different style, a little bit different interests as far as what stories we will cover.
		And obviously, I need to develop more as a presenter as well.
		So I appreciate your patience on that and, most importantly, we need the tech to work in here, We need the studio to function.
		It's just work in progress, you know again, it is what it is.
		So I apologize obviously, I apologize to Viva, But you know, he seemed to be a good sport about it, so that's good, but we will be back tomorrow for the show and then hopefully, third time's, the try.
		It'll be mint, it'll be mint, it'll be perfect.
		Um, so We'll have that ready for you guys tomorrow.
		You can follow me on X and Instagram at RealTape Brown.
		Come give me a follow there.
		And we'll be back tonight for Timcast IRL at 8 p.m.
		It's gonna be a monster show.
		So be there for that.
		It is gonna be a great time.
		And we will see you all there.

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