Nov. 12, 2025 - Tim Pool Daily Show
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| What is going on, Rumblers? | ||
| Did you guys see me for like three seconds? | ||
| I started stream and I had it on the on the camera window. | ||
| There's a little behind the scenes. | ||
| You got to see what the show looks like 10 seconds before it actually starts. | ||
| What is going on, guys? | ||
| I am your host, Tate Brown, here, holding it down for Tim Poole. | ||
| Tim's still out sick. | ||
| Man, these workload is just absolutely insane. | ||
| And so, you know, sometimes I think it's good that he's able to catch a breather because absolutely insane. | ||
| I just try to keep up and it's like exhausting. | ||
| So, yeah, Tim's out today. | ||
| But do not fear. | ||
| We have a fantastic, fantastic show for you today. | ||
| You may have saw on Twitter, I put a tweet up. | ||
| We got Ann Coulter. | ||
| She's joining us for the interview portion. | ||
| It's going to be absolutely insane. | ||
| Who better to speak on this Trump interview than Ann Coulter? | ||
| I mean, she has like some of the best instincts in the game. | ||
| The Ann Culture was right about everything award. | ||
| Everyone's going to be getting it. | ||
| Ann Coulter's fantastic. | ||
| So I'm so excited. | ||
| She's one of my favorites. | ||
| She's one of the best. | ||
| So that's good. | ||
| Obviously, we're going to be talking to Trump. | ||
| We're going to be talking, you've probably seen all over Twitter, Trump. | ||
| The interview dropped yesterday, the Lauren La Laura Ingram interview in full. | ||
| And it was bad. | ||
| It was really bad. | ||
| I mean, look, people are now going in and sort of debating the policy. | ||
| Okay, what does the actual policy look like? | ||
| And that's all true. | ||
| Like, you know, a lot of these policies are maybe are fine on paper. | ||
| But the problem was the messaging. | ||
| The messaging was just so disastrous yesterday that the base is kind of justified to be crashing out a little bit here. | ||
| Now, some people are going way too far, obviously. | ||
| And a lot of these people I don't even think would be considered part of the base anyway. | ||
| I'm not going to name names. | ||
| I don't want to start any fights, but people saying, oh, this is just the Biden admin with the secure border. | ||
| People saying MAGA's finished. | ||
| You know, there's just all this dooming, blackpilling, people throwing the baby out with the bathwater. | ||
| But people do this every three months with Trump. | ||
| I mean, this happened with Iran. | ||
| It's the same thing. | ||
| You just had these people. | ||
| And rightfully, again, I'm not downplaying. | ||
| Like, if you watched my show yesterday, I was very critical of the interview. | ||
| So I'm not downplaying that, but it's the people that just like have this propensity to just immediately down tools and just say, all right, it's over. | ||
| It's over. | ||
| Let's start over again, et cetera, et cetera. | ||
| It's like, we just need some measure here. | ||
| If you're going to crash out, crash out in a very calculated way, that could actually end up giving us the result that we want. | ||
| Anyway, I digress. | ||
| We're going to be diving into that. | ||
| Obviously, Anne will be joining us to discuss that. | ||
| We have a few more stories on the horizon. | ||
| We have the Venezuela. | ||
| We just rolled up a massive worship. | ||
| USS Gerald Ford is now in waters in Latin America. | ||
| You know, who knows what's going to go on there? | ||
| We're going to go to Venezuela. | ||
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I don't know. | |
| Maybe, maybe not. | ||
| Anyway, something to keep an eye on. | ||
| Also, Rod Dreyer, he put out a piece. | ||
| This was yesterday. | ||
| This piece dropped. | ||
| He was saying the title of the piece was What I Saw and Heard in Washington. | ||
| Groiperism's spread among Gen Z conservative apparatchics is real. | ||
| So he gives his thoughts on the state of conservatism among Zoomers that are politically aspirant, but obviously Zoomers that are working on the hill. | ||
| It's a very, very interesting piece. | ||
| So hopefully we'll be able to get to all that. | ||
| And I will open up with a update on the government shutdown. | ||
| But before we get into all of that, let's take a look at today's sponsors. | ||
| Up first, Cast Brew Coffee. | ||
| Oh my gosh. | ||
| This is some delicious, delicious stuff. | ||
| We have the best coffee in the game. | ||
| I'm comfortable saying that. | ||
| I am comfortable. | ||
| If we do not have the best coffee in the game, come have a word with me. | ||
| We'll go coffee for coffee, bag for bag. | ||
| We have some of the best. | ||
| Head on over to castbrew.com, get you some Appalachian Nights, get you a French roast if you're really in Frenchy. | ||
| Ian's Graphene Dream. | ||
| If you're into that kind of thing, if you're into graphene, look, it's fantastic stuff. | ||
| The fans love it. | ||
| I've told you about how angsty people get for a bag. | ||
| I mean, they're throwing hands, tackling. | ||
| I mean, it looks like a cage match. | ||
| We'll just mail it to you. | ||
| You can just buy it and we'll mail it to you. | ||
| We also have Mary's Ghost Blend. | ||
| This is new to the store. | ||
| This is really some excellent, excellent stuff. | ||
| Fantastic stuff. | ||
| And you can buy a bag. | ||
| You know, we dropped it before Halloween. | ||
| It kind of built that spooky sort of deal. | ||
| You can still buy it and just have it for next Halloween. | ||
| It'll get you prepared for next Halloween, but it's also just s'mores flavor. | ||
| It's just delicious. | ||
| So, you know, it doesn't even really need to be Halloween for you to grab a bag. | ||
| Also, we have Boonies. | ||
| Boonies, shopped out BooniesHQ.com. | ||
| Fantastic stuff here as well. | ||
| We have some boards, skateboards. | ||
| We love skateboarding. | ||
| If you know anything about Tim Cash, you know we are dedicated to the sport of skateboarding. | ||
| Some new boards dropped. | ||
| They sold out really fast. | ||
| They sold out lightning quick. | ||
| So you can't grab these yet, but you can look at them online. | ||
| It's pretty sick. | ||
| But we still do have some of the classics up. | ||
| Declaration of Independence, uncancelable board, be gay, don't be gay. | ||
| 28th Amendment board. | ||
| There's some fantastic, fantastic stuff on here. | ||
| Even if you're not a skater, you can still grab one for like a wall ornament, something like this. | ||
| It's great, great stuff. | ||
| So head on over to shop.boonieshq.com and grab you some boards. | ||
| And with that, the first story from USA Today, House gears up for a vote to end government shutdown. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Is it over? | ||
| Is it really over? | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| We are 42 days into the shutdown now. | ||
| I'm looking at, because it started October 1st, so no, that would be, does it say on here? | ||
| I can't even do the counting. | ||
| It's like 43 days, 40, 43 days. | ||
| Oh my gosh, it's been so long. | ||
| It's the longest in history. | ||
| So, you know, forgive me for losing track of the days. | ||
| But we'll read here from the USA Today the latest on the government shutdown. | ||
| It looks like it is starting to wind down. | ||
| The House of Representatives will vote Wednesday, November 12th, on a funding package to end the longest federal government shutdown in U.S. history. | ||
| This measure is expected to pass and then go to the desk of President Donald Trump, who has said he will indeed approve it. | ||
| A small group of Democrats in the Senate announced Sunday night that they had negotiated an agreement with Republicans in the White House to resolve the funding crisis. | ||
| Quote, the deal is very good, according to the president. | ||
| He said this Monday. | ||
| If lawmakers manage to sidestep widespread flight disruptions and returning to Washington, they will take the penultimate step in moving past a political mess that has lasted for more than a month and left millions of Americans unable to afford food, travel, and rely on countless government services. | ||
| Even here, USA Today stopped counting. | ||
| They just said it's been over a month. | ||
| At this point, who's even, is anyone counting at this point? | ||
| I mean, it's absolutely ridiculous. | ||
| We'll read a little more. | ||
| The history-making debacle has bitterly divided Washington and congressional Democrats in particular. | ||
| And a concession from the GOP, the latest deal would reverse Trump's recent layoffs of thousands of federal workers amid the shutdown, but it would not extend expiring Affordable Care Act subsidies as Democrats had demanded for weeks. | ||
| Instead, the bill only guarantees a standalone vote on the health care subsidies in December before the credits expire at the end of the year and send health care premiums skyrocketing. | ||
| Well, it's unclear if enough Republicans support extending the funds for the effort to pass in the Senate. | ||
| And Speaker Mike Johnson is not committed to holding a vote in the House. | ||
| So eight Democrats crossed the aisle to end this government shutdown. | ||
| This has absolutely infuriated congressional Democrats. | ||
| Bernie Sanders came out. | ||
| He's had this position for a while, but he's been really certain and driving this home that Chuck Schumer is part of the establishment. | ||
| He is an op. | ||
| Kind of the same energy that was in the 2016 GOP where the MAGA insurgency started getting very frustrated with the establishment, GOP. | ||
| We kind of have the same thing here. | ||
| So Bernie Sanders, even though he's old, I mean, I think he's a, I think he's been around for the quarter of the country's history, if I have that right, maybe a third, certainly a quarter of the country's history. | ||
| So he's very old. | ||
| He's very, very old. | ||
| And so it's funny that he's calling people the establishment. | ||
| But, you know, he's obviously, you know, to the left of pretty much everybody in the Senate. | ||
| And yeah, he said before that Schumer is an op. | ||
| He's part of the establishment, et cetera, et cetera. | ||
| So, the Democrats are divided over this. | ||
| So, obviously, all the spotlight in our sphere has been on the divide in the Republican Party, but the Democrats aren't doing much better. | ||
| A, they don't have a leader. | ||
| I mean, the fact that Newsom has kind of emerged as this potential leader, but it's not clear, is really a disaster because they're just totally scattered. | ||
| They aren't just because of the structure of their ideology, it's really hard to develop leadership because it's very angry, it's very effeminate, it's very scattered, it's not very hierarchical. | ||
| So, they can't even really like rally behind anyone, and they don't have any good leadership. | ||
| Really, if you're just demonstrating a lot of good leadership qualities, you're probably joining the Republican Party. | ||
| There's no question about that. | ||
| But here again, we're seeing that divide. | ||
| So, obviously, eight Democrats said, Okay, uncle, uncle, we're just going to end this shutdown, enough of this. | ||
| And a lot of Democrats go ballistic over this. | ||
| They go ballistic. | ||
| They're promising primaries, et cetera, et cetera. | ||
| And it's over this. | ||
| It's over these ACA Act or ACA subsidies expiring at the end of the year. | ||
| Now, again, it says in the article, and this is true, is the Republicans, the concessions they made is, okay, we'll reverse a lot of these layoffs. | ||
| Unfortunately, from what I'm hearing, a lot of those treasury layoffs will be brought back. | ||
| It's very unfortunate. | ||
| We'll figure out another way to get rid of them. | ||
| There's no question. | ||
| We'll get to the bottom of that. | ||
| But the ACA subsidies, there will be a vote in December. | ||
| But again, we see here, Mike Johnson has not committed to holding a vote in the House. | ||
| So the Democrats may have just gotten rinsed here. | ||
| That could be the reality: the Republicans, as a lot of people have maintained the entire time, held the leverage in this situation because this is how shutdowns always work. | ||
| This is how they always work. | ||
| This is how it worked. | ||
| And in the last one, in the first Trump term, is the party demanding something will always be blamed for the shutdown. | ||
| And so in this case, the Republicans are just saying, hey, we're just trying to get this CR passed, et cetera, et cetera. | ||
| And the Democrats were the ones demanding something. | ||
| They were the ones demanding. | ||
| They were holding this up until you submit to our demands. | ||
| And then it's on full display here. | ||
| So yeah, we'll see how this goes. | ||
| I mean, look, Trump's probably going to sign it. | ||
| I said yesterday that maybe he might throw a wrench in things, but no, I think he'll probably approve of this. | ||
| This measure is going to pass today, and the shutdown should be over. | ||
| Oh, joy. | ||
| That being said, we did have Sean Duffy, the Secretary of Transportation. | ||
| He was on Fox yesterday. | ||
| I was tuned in. | ||
| He was on Fox and he said this a few other places is even though the shutdown is ending, he still expects there to be a lot of congestion and air travel. | ||
| There'd be a lot of issues in air travel as a lot of these comptrollers, a lot of comptrollers, air traffic controllers. | ||
| Sorry, as long as a lot of these air traffic controllers come back to work, obviously a lot of them are calling out sick because they're not getting paid. | ||
| It's going to take time to get back to full operational capability. | ||
| He did guarantee that the 70% of their back pay would be issued within 48 hours of the shutdown ending. | ||
| So that should get relief. | ||
| That should provide a lot of relief, get people back into those towers and whatnot. | ||
| But yeah, it's still very, we're still going to be reeling from this from a long time from the Democrat shutdown. | ||
| But with that, we'll see how this goes. | ||
| We'll keep an eye on this package, funding package. | ||
| But yeah, it looks like Republicans are coming out fairly unscathed, I would say. | ||
| It's a good look. | ||
| It's a good look for us, certainly. | ||
| The Democrats, it caused a lot of division in the Democrats. | ||
| Didn't really antagonize the Republican base very much. | ||
| So that's good. | ||
| It's a dub. | ||
| So with that, we'll get to this next story. | ||
| What have I done here? | ||
| I've totally messed everything up. | ||
| What the F is this? | ||
| Trump supporters rip President Trump for saying there aren't enough talented people in America. | ||
| This is per Mediite. | ||
| Obviously, this is actually per Fox News. | ||
| Let's play the clip here. | ||
| This is what everyone. | ||
| There's a lot of clips from the Ingerman interview. | ||
| I think a lot of people are saying, oh, you know, it's just Trump. | ||
| You know, happens. | ||
| This is the clip that everyone is really harping on and they're very upset about. | ||
| Let's take a look here. | ||
| I mean, the H1B. | ||
| Oh, and network errors caused the issue. | ||
| I mean, the H-1B visa thing will not be a big priority for your administration because if you want to raise wages for American workers, you can't flood the country with tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of foreign workers. | ||
| We have plenty of talented people. | ||
| No, you don't. | ||
| No, you don't. | ||
| We don't have talented people in there. | ||
| You don't have certain talents, and people have to learn. | ||
| You can't take people off an unemployment, like an unemployment line and say, I'm going to put you into a factory where we're going to make missiles, or I'm going to put you in the middle of the market. | ||
| How did we ever do it before? | ||
| Well, let me know. | ||
| I'll give you an example. | ||
| In Georgia, they raided because they wanted illegal immigrants out. | ||
| They had people from South Korea that made batteries all their lives. | ||
| You know, making batteries are very complicated. | ||
| It's not an easy thing. | ||
| It's very dangerous. | ||
| A lot of explosions, a lot of problems. | ||
| They had like five or six hundred people, early stages to make batteries and to teach people how to do it. | ||
| Well, they wanted them to get out of the country. | ||
| You're going to need that, Laura. | ||
| I mean, I know you and I disagree on this. | ||
| You can't just say a country's coming in, going to invest $10 billion to build a plant and take people off an unemployment line who haven't worked in five years, and they're going to start making missiles. | ||
| So, okay, obviously, not a great look for the president. | ||
| I hate with this. | ||
| I hate when there's a dog pile on Trump, because this happens again about every three months. | ||
| He'll say something or something, the administration will take some sort of action and a dog pile starts. | ||
| I hate joining in on the dog pile. | ||
| I'm a very loyal guy. | ||
| I'm very loyal to Donald Trump, obviously. | ||
| But look, it's fair. | ||
| You have to chimp out at certain moments. | ||
| In certain moments, in these key moments in the Trump administration, we will have to chimp out. | ||
| And unfortunately, they are on the, I'd say they're on the wrong side of the H-1B. | ||
| Look, a lot of people were explaining to me yesterday. | ||
| They're saying, with the Chinese students, they're saying, well, this is part of a deal. | ||
| This is brinksmanship. | ||
| And the same thing with the, he was referring to with the Chinese, the, or sorry, the Chinese, the Korean, the Korean workers in the Georgia plant. | ||
| People are trying to explain to me. | ||
| They're saying, well, look, these are deals. | ||
| These are agreements. | ||
| It's like, I get that. | ||
| That can be handled behind the scenes, obviously. | ||
| But it's like the messaging is what's off here specifically, where you're saying, hey, I hope he just slipped up here by saying there aren't enough talented people in America. | ||
| Just a disastrous statement because it really just runs counter to like all of the messaging that's been online from the administration. | ||
| I mean, there's been a lot of great posting from our social media channels. | ||
| And obviously, it is a kind of part of that Trump energy. | ||
| It's like, hey, we're actually chauvinistically American. | ||
| We can do whatever we want. | ||
| We're America. | ||
| But he was referring to this, this piece from the Juang Daily, whatever that is. | ||
| I needed a good article to describe what happened here. | ||
| Koreans detained in Georgia battery plant preparing class action lawsuit against ICE. | ||
| So this is kind of the problem when you bring in a lot of these H-1B workers. | ||
| I understand what President Trump is saying. | ||
| Like if you really try to be incisive what he's saying and be charitable, he's saying, look, if you're trying to build a battery plant in the middle of nowhere in Georgia, a lot of the local labor is not going to be equipped to just start snapping together batteries. | ||
| So you need to bring in people that are experts on it. | ||
| And in this case, it's a Korean company investing in Georgia. | ||
| So you need to bring over some of their experts to then train the locals and eventually wean that plant off of Korean labor. | ||
| The problem with that, and the problem largely with these visa programs, is you can't guarantee competency and you can't guarantee loyalty to the United States with visa holders. | ||
| And this is a great example. | ||
| So what he was referring to was this battery plant. | ||
| This was Hyundai and LG are building this in Georgia. | ||
| It's like four, yeah, it says here, $4 billion. | ||
| But last month, or it was two months ago, there was a ICE raid and about 475 people got arrested and 300 of them were Koreans. | ||
| They obviously, there was something, there were some issues with their standing in the United States, with their, you know, their legality of being here, right? | ||
| So ICE conducts this raid. | ||
| And then these Koreans sue the government over this. | ||
| They sue the government over conducting ICE operations. | ||
| So this is, I guess what I'm trying to get at is this is the problem. | ||
| So even in this, where it's like a charitable case for people making the case for like granting a lot of visas, is as soon as you try to detain some of these people, like say something's wrong and bring them in, they just start like launching lawsuits against ICE, which just gums up the system, makes it more difficult for ICE to conduct their operations. | ||
| You just can't guarantee loyalty to the United States. | ||
| It's a big issue. | ||
| So we'll read a little more from Media, obviously. | ||
| This was, they highlighted some of the people on the right's reactions. | ||
| A lot of patriots in here. | ||
| You know, some people, there's a lot of, it's a variety of takes, I would say, in here. | ||
| They are obviously quoting Logan Hall, who was on the show last week, and he's a buddy of mine. | ||
| He's a good guy. | ||
| They're quoting his tweet here for the headline, which is pretty funny. | ||
| We have plenty of talented people here. | ||
| That's what Ingram said. | ||
| And Trump said, no, you don't. | ||
| And yeah, Patriots are not going to take that well. | ||
| Like, look, Trump obviously has bought up more goodwill than anybody else on the right, but that is just a statement that's beyond the pale in many ways. | ||
| You just can't, you cannot talk down to Americans, especially when we've been through so much. | ||
| We've been disparaged for so long by the left that it really doesn't feel good to like see your patriarch talking down to you and saying you're not. | ||
| And then we don't have any talent here. | ||
| Logan continues. | ||
| I'm sorry, but what the F is this. | ||
| American talent split the atom and went to the moon. | ||
| American talent built everything for the modern world that the modern world takes for granted now. | ||
| Give me a break. | ||
| This is insanity. | ||
| Totally agreed. | ||
| Totally agreed. | ||
| Again, let me play this. | ||
| There's a few other takes here, some good takes, et cetera, et cetera. | ||
| But we got to keep moving. | ||
| I want to play what Scott Besson said. | ||
| I think this was this morning. | ||
| Josh, this was this morning. | ||
| We have producer Josh in the house, by the way. | ||
| This was this morning on Fox. | ||
| Scott Bessant's explaining the visa plan. | ||
| And we'll take a listen here. | ||
| And notice the difference between messaging from Scott Besson versus President Trump. | ||
| 20, 30 years we have offshore precision manufacturing jobs. | ||
| And the president's point here is, again, we can't snap our fingers and say, you're going to learn how to build ships overnight. | ||
| We want to bring semiconductor industry back to the U.S. There are going to be big facilities in Arizona. | ||
| So I think the president's vision here is to bring in overseas workers where these jobs went. | ||
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Who have skills. | |
| Who have the skills three, five, seven years to train the U.S. workers. | ||
| Then they can go home. | ||
| The U.S. workers fully take over. | ||
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So do you want to understand the concern that people have? | |
| Hey, an American could have that job. | ||
| Why you give it to a job? | ||
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So it's specific skills. | |
| Because we haven't built ships in the U.S. for years. | ||
| We haven't built semiconductors. | ||
| So this idea of overseas partners coming in, teaching American workers, then returning home, that's a home run. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| Mr. Secretary, thanks so much. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So the messaging here obviously is a bit more precise. | ||
| That's the difference between obviously Bessant's trying to come in and mop up what Trump said. | ||
| Again, at the end, it's just people, we're not in the environment right now to be defending H-1B visas. | ||
| That's just the reality of the situation. | ||
| I think this is what the Trump administration might be missing here: the base is just not in the mood to be letting people into the country, period. | ||
| Like, we want mass deportations. | ||
| And I agree, like, the mass deportation, obviously, the numbers are a bit better than people I think are giving the Trump administration credit for. | ||
| But at this rate, like, we're going to reverse the Biden invasion, and we still have a lot of work to do after that. | ||
| So, people don't like the idea of bringing foreigners in for jobs that could potentially be done by Americans, even though Scott Besson has explained, like, look, these jobs haven't been present in this country for a long time, so we might not be able to. | ||
| Again, I don't know if that's the case. | ||
| I think this is more because Korea, South Korea, has invested a bunch of money in Georgia, so they would like to bring in some of their workers. | ||
| Again, it's neither here nor there. | ||
| Here's a big problem that's been going on. | ||
| Trump says this. | ||
| It's a disastrous interview. | ||
| I'm just not going to sugarcoat that. | ||
| Bessant comes in, tries to sort of mop up the situation, smooth things over. | ||
| And then this is the problem with the admin: all these top figures come out and just contradict each other all the time. | ||
| This was happening during the Iran thing, and it's happening again. | ||
| There's no clear, there's no clear cohesive message. | ||
| So this is a, this was this morning. | ||
| I think this is last night. | ||
| No, it's just Fox and Friends. | ||
| Yeah, this morning, Kirsty Noam, DHS secretary, goes on Fox and Friends, and then she has this to say. | ||
| So now contrast this with Scott Besson, who Scott Besson's interviews right after Kirsty Noams. | ||
| We get two completely different messages here. | ||
| These visas, it's other visas of people, look, that want to come to the country. | ||
| They don't even necessarily want to be citizens, but they're hardworking. | ||
| What is the administration's position on these visas? | ||
| We're going to keep using our visa programs. | ||
| We're just going to make sure that they have integrity, that we're actually doing the vetting of the individuals who come into this country, that they want to be here for the right reasons, that they're not supporters of terrorists and organizations that hate America. | ||
| And that's what I think is so remarkable: under the Trump administration, we've sped up our process and added integrity to the visa programs, to green cards, to all of that. | ||
| But also, more people are becoming naturalized under this administration than ever before. | ||
| More people are becoming citizens because we're not just streamlining and building some processes back into our immigration policies. | ||
| We're also making sure that these individuals that are coming into our country and get that privilege, that they actually are here for the right reasons. | ||
| The Biden administration let thousands of terrorists into this country. | ||
| They opened the doors. | ||
| All right, enough, enough, enough. | ||
| Like, who's asking for who is asking for, again, it's starting to crash out again. | ||
| Who is asking for this? | ||
| Legitimately, who? | ||
| Because we know we went through this in December when Ramaswamy and all those guys were like, oh, Americans are lazy. | ||
| And like, oh, they didn't do homework all the time in high school. | ||
| They're busy playing football and whatever. | ||
| We went through all that. | ||
| We had to explain to them, like, hey, no, it's actually the guys that are like the patriots that are like playing football and hanging out with their friends. | ||
| They're actually the ones that are building rocket ships and doing all these cool things. | ||
| We don't really need all these like math leads coming over from India and China. | ||
| Like we're good. | ||
| There's a reason America is the way it is. | ||
| I thought we hashed this out. | ||
| I thought this was done. | ||
| And Trump, I'm not blaming Trump on this because unfortunately, Trump is at the whim of a lot of his advisors on this. | ||
| He has so much going on right now. | ||
| He doesn't have time to be like sitting here and reading like, you know, different immigration studies like we do on Twitter. | ||
| That's the job of his officials. | ||
| That's the job of his officials. | ||
| And Kirsty Noam getting up here and saying, you know what the base is going to want to hear right now? | ||
| The base is really upset about this. | ||
| You know what they want to hear right now? | ||
| Guys, good news. | ||
| We're naturalizing all these people. | ||
| We're actually making more citizens. | ||
| We're making it easier for people to come here. | ||
| That is the last thing people want to hear right now. | ||
| Sorry, Kirst Secretary Kirsty Noam, with all due respect. | ||
| I put this on Twitter yesterday. | ||
| With all due respect, the left calls you Hitler 2.0 for deporting like nasty Guatemalan pedophiles. | ||
| And they call you Hitler for that. | ||
| So what makes you think you're going to satiate these people in any way? | ||
| Because I think that's what's going on here. | ||
| I think she doesn't even really care about being outflanked on the right. | ||
| I think she's still preoccupied with what the media says about her. | ||
| And she's saying, oh, we're naturalizing these people. | ||
| This is great. | ||
| Isn't this great? | ||
| Don't you guys stop calling me Hitler now? | ||
| Well, maybe the South Park bits will stop. | ||
| No, no, they hate you. | ||
| If you deport anybody, it doesn't matter if you're deporting, you know, freaking Osama bin Laden himself. | ||
| They'll call you Hitler over it and they'll probably shoot at you. | ||
| So enough, enough satiating these people. | ||
| I'm sick and tired of satiating these people. | ||
| We're trying to win. | ||
| We're trying to deport all these people. | ||
| So just disastrous messaging. | ||
| Besson, I'm giving him grace here. | ||
| Besson, first of all, he's actually a really smart guy. | ||
| He's high IQ. | ||
| He's fantastic for the gig because he's like a homosexual, but he's not like obviously homosexual. | ||
| So he's kind of used to like that caddy settling scores behind the scenes. | ||
| You know, that's kind of what you want. | ||
| That's what you want in your treasury secretary. | ||
| So he's out here just settling scores. | ||
| He comes up here. | ||
| He's trying to mop the mess up. | ||
| He's trying to smooth things over. | ||
| He's saying, look, you know, we need some of the skilled labor. | ||
| But my question to Besson then is, how do we ensure compliance? | ||
| Because this has been the problem with the visas the whole time. | ||
| Isn't so much, I get it. | ||
| I get the argument. | ||
| And let's just, I'll grant it. | ||
| I'll grant the argument. | ||
| I'll say, okay, maybe we do need these skilled workers coming into Georgia to train up the local population. | ||
| I've been to Georgia. | ||
| I've been to the South. | ||
| You know, people are like, oh, Trump's calling him stupid. | ||
| It's like, there's some dumb people there. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| I know. | ||
| I know. | ||
| There's dumb people. | ||
| Have you been to New York City? | ||
| They just elected Ma'am Donnie. | ||
| There's a lot of dumb people in this country. | ||
| There's no question about that. | ||
| Chicago, they just like the Brandon Johnson. | ||
| Los Angeles, it's Los Angeles. | ||
| I mean, Exhibit A is the city. | ||
| It's just, there's a lot of dumb people in the United States. | ||
| So, okay, maybe I'll grant that. | ||
| I still think we should be prioritizing Americans. | ||
| I think we should be training them. | ||
| Like, like Logan Hall said, we like put a man on the moon. | ||
| That population is still there, and that population is struggling. | ||
| But anyway, let's grant it. | ||
| Okay, we need the skilled labor. | ||
| Okay, fine. | ||
| How do we ensure compliance? | ||
| Because this has been the issue with the H-1B visas. | ||
| The entire problem is that all these guys come in from India and they squat. | ||
| Like they just either go off the map, they start gaming the system, or because we have birthright citizenship, you can't get rid of them because they have a kid here. | ||
| They pop out another one and you can't get rid of them. | ||
| And next thing you know, half the GOP leadership is dissent. | ||
| Anyway, I'm sorry. | ||
| I digress. | ||
| We can't ensure compliance because our entire immigration system is cooked. | ||
| So sorry, Noam is off the plantation here. | ||
| That's ridiculous messaging. | ||
| That has added so much fuel to the fire. | ||
| Even Besson, who I respect, and I'm thankful he's explaining this. | ||
| We're just not in the mood for this right now. | ||
| We really aren't. | ||
| We're really not in the mood for this right now. | ||
| That's all I'm going to say. | ||
| Again, you can explain it. | ||
| Settle it behind closed doors. | ||
| If you're going to cut these deals, let's just don't tell us about it. | ||
| If it's really great, it'll show up in the economic numbers and everybody will be high five and we'll create all these jobs. | ||
| But here's the sentiment I want to hammer home. | ||
| Again, from Logan Hall, not the glaze. | ||
| He's a good guy. | ||
| We're going to glaze a little bit. | ||
| This is a fantastic post. | ||
| He's obviously responding to the Engram interview. | ||
| He says, weird, where were all these so-called H-1B talent in this photo? | ||
| And obviously, this is from one of the Apollo missions. | ||
| It would be nice if Americans had our country back and could see what great things we might accomplish with our own people. | ||
| We've done it before. | ||
| We don't need anyone else. | ||
| Have you considered, this is so true. | ||
| Have you considered maybe part of the reason Americans are dumb today is because we flooded the country with a bunch of dumb people. | ||
| Like 50, 60 years of just dumb people just pouring into the country. | ||
| A few smart ones came over and people will always point to those. | ||
| But have you been to a Walmart recently? | ||
| Yeah, we're not getting like Einstein's. | ||
| We're not getting, we're not getting Operation Paperclip level talent coming into the country here. | ||
| No, we're getting like Walmart employees. | ||
| It's not great. | ||
| We're not getting high-level talent here. | ||
| It would be nice if we could see what we could do with the stock of people that we had in the 1960s. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| We were shooting people up to the moon like every day. | ||
| It was fantastic. | ||
| And you know what happened? | ||
| Is we looked up on the moon, we looked through a telescope and we saw the American flag sitting on the moon. | ||
| He said, you know what we need right now? | ||
| We should flood the entire country with the third world. | ||
| We'll just see what happens because I don't know. | ||
| Maybe it'll make TVs like 10 bucks cheaper. | ||
| Maybe, I don't know. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| So Trump gets elected, tries to reverse all this, obviously. | ||
| So this is why it feels like why the base is taking this hard. | ||
| This is why the base is not happy with this. | ||
| They feel betrayed. | ||
| They feel very betrayed. | ||
| So we got an interview. | ||
| We got an interview. | ||
| I didn't get to a lot of these stories that I went. | ||
| I got really fired up, really crashed out. | ||
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| Well, we got what we promised. | ||
| We promised you guys, Ann Coulter, we have got you. | ||
| Ann Coulter, I'm so grateful that she is here to join the show and break down all of this insanity with the Trump interview. | ||
| With that, Anne, how are you? | ||
| Fantastic. | ||
| How are you? | ||
| I am doing fantastic as well. | ||
| Well, first, I wanted to say I was taking a look at your new sub stack, Unsafe. | ||
| Really tremendous stuff. | ||
| Can you tell us a little more about it? | ||
| Yes, it's great. | ||
| You got my column delivered directly to your inbox before everyone else can read it and rip it off. | ||
| This week it's on something kind of tangenti related to what we're talking about. | ||
| And that is I read all of Virginia Jiffra's book, Nobody's Girl. | ||
| And it is so much more. | ||
| She was one of the most vocal and articulate spokesmen of the victims of Jeffrey Epstein. | ||
| And it's shocking. | ||
| It's really, really shocking. | ||
| Which I just finished it when I see the headline. | ||
| Jelaine Maxwell says new prison cell. | ||
| Fantastic. | ||
| So, you know, this is another great thing Trump is doing for his MAGA base, which I absolutely cannot understand. | ||
| These emails that were released today, the Democrats are so desperate to tie Trump to Epstein. | ||
| I don't think those are particularly implicating. | ||
| But the fact that Trump refuses to rule out pardoning Jelaine Maxwell, when you read, you don't have to read the book, read my column. | ||
| It's going up later today to see how intimately involved she was, not only in procuring the girls, but in the really disgusting molestation. | ||
| And it was Trump's decision to move Jelaine Maxwell to this minimum security prison where she's having such a wonderful time. | ||
| I don't understand that. | ||
| I mean, the assumption among every, I've been following this case since it first broke in Palm Beach, long before the national media had it. | ||
| I did get Bill O'Reilly to talk about it, and that was it. | ||
| This was back in 2006. | ||
| But the assumption among people who have been following this is that it's not Trump, that young girls don't really seem to be his type, even back when he was a Democrat, but that it's his donors. | ||
| But I don't know, this is to have, to snub your nose on something this important to the MAGA base. | ||
| I mean, I think as a lot of people have been saying, including Tim Poole, this is so going to destroy Republicans in the midterms. | ||
| Now, let's get to what we're really talking about. | ||
| Well, no, yeah, I mean, it's true. | ||
| It's a lot of this, you're just seeing people, the vitriol from the base. | ||
| And it's just, there does seem to feel, it feels like there's a bit of a distance from the admin officials and the base, which didn't seem to always be there, especially in like campaigns. | ||
| It seems like the Trump administration's super, or the Trump campaign is super reactive to the base. | ||
| And then as soon as we get into, you know, into office, a bit of a gulf erupts. | ||
| Now, I got to say, before, and like, I'm a huge fan that I've never done this before on an interview. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| My family was like so excited that you're coming on. | ||
| So I'm glad we got you because this story, I couldn't think of anyone better than Ann Colcher to break down. | ||
| I wanted to ask, before we get into the meat and cheese here, with the coming from media background, a lot of people were saying the Laura Ingram interview was like a bit of a hit. | ||
| They were saying, oh, well, she set him up with some of the questions or maybe it was adversarial. | ||
| I mean, did you get that sense at all? | ||
| I mean, I'm sure you have a relationship with Laura, but I don't know. | ||
| No, my sense is more that expectations for Fox News hosts are so low. | ||
| Are so unbelievably low. | ||
| I mean, one of the things I was going to say about this is we've been having to reel Trump back on this from 2015. | ||
| He was constantly going out. | ||
| And this is when there were like three people working for him. | ||
| It was, well, me secretly sending things into Corey Lewandowski and Stephen Miller. | ||
| And you can get him to turn this stuff around pretty quickly. | ||
| Like you say, the campaign was much more, well, he needed our votes back then. | ||
| But he was constantly, you know, wandering off the reservation talking about, oh, and we need, you know, we need workers out in Silicon Valley and, you know, hospitality. | ||
| They need workers. | ||
| They need workers. | ||
| And then you'd have to reel him back right before, and this is right back to Fox News. | ||
| Right before my book came out, Adios or no, in Trump We Trust. | ||
| It was in 2016. | ||
| It was the year before Adios America about immigration that got me banned from all media because it was about immigration, everything, everyone's saying now. | ||
| Right before In Trump We Trust came out, literally that day, Trump was being interviewed by Hannity at the border. | ||
| And I forget exactly which part of this he came out for, but I think he said he would consider amnesty and he'd do a trade on amnesty. | ||
| This is when he's still running for office in 2016. | ||
| So we've, and during some of the Republican debates, he started talking about how, oh, we need workers. | ||
| And then he'd have to, and his campaign would put out a press release clarifying, i.e. taking back everything he said. | ||
| So he's always been very soft on this. | ||
| You would think by now it had been, it's this, this one little thing has been beaten into him enough. | ||
| Americans need the jobs. | ||
| Americans are good workers. | ||
| Americans are being sold out. | ||
| And I'll get back to why Americans are better workers. | ||
| But for now, I wanted to say I spoke at Institute for ISI. | ||
| No, Intercollegiate Studies Institute. | ||
| I always want to start with this right near you guys. | ||
| Anyway, it was this weekend. | ||
| It was all these student journalists, and this gal from Stanford was particularly interested in why Trump wasn't cutting back on Chinese students. | ||
| And she told me the Stanford campus is at least 30% Chinese nationals. | ||
| And all these American students at Stanford University, one of our premier universities, majoring in computer science. | ||
| They can't get jobs. | ||
| They're being undersold by the H-1B workers. | ||
| And their theory, and I don't know enough about this to know whether it's true, but I don't know. | ||
| A Stanford undergrad is smarter than I am. | ||
| They think it's because Trump is worried about the rare earth minerals we need from China. | ||
| Now, if true, I think he ought to get that message out through the grapevine. | ||
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Right. | |
| People will talk. | ||
| So people like you and I was like, oh, it's just about rare earth minerals, and we won't be furious with him. | ||
| The reason H-1B workers are so attractive to corporations is not because they're better, it's because they are cheaper. | ||
| And I recommend Norman Matloff, who's a professor at one of those California universities in computer science for a long time, and he's written endlessly about this. | ||
| The point is, H-1B workers get attached to a corporation. | ||
| So it's indentured servitude, which this country outlawed back at the time after the Civil War. | ||
| And that is so you're hired to work for Apple, say, they underpay you, and you can get a much better job working for a competitor. | ||
| They'll pay you more. | ||
| It'll be a better job, but you can't leave without losing your H-1B visa. | ||
| Therefore, all these H-1B visa workers are doing ordinary, regular, nothing special work, but they're cheap. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, I mean, I remember this was the whole brouhaha around last Christmas where, you know, a few figures on the right were coming out and saying, like, oh, Americans are lazy and it's like intrinsic in our culture, which is just ridiculous because I'm like, we can look up on the moon and see a flag up there. | ||
| It's our flag. | ||
| So that being said, let's just say we grant, like, Besant came out this morning. | ||
| He was saying, look, you know, we have a few, few different industries that obviously haven't been on shore in a very long time. | ||
| So we need to bring in some experts to train the local workers on how to get this done, which I reject wholeheartedly. | ||
| But let's even grant that. | ||
| Let's just, for the sake of argument, let's grant that. | ||
| My question is: how do we guarantee the workers are compliant with H-1B standards? | ||
| Because go back to December, everyone was posting all these listings from like public databases showing that we were bringing in like hundreds of thousands of workers from India to work like janitor gigs. | ||
| Like it was absolutely ridiculous, the amount of scamming going on. | ||
| So I'm like, look, first of all, I hate the taste of turmeric. | ||
| So I don't even know if I want them here anyway, even if it were like, you know, like monster workers. | ||
| But it's just, there's like scams left and right. | ||
| And it's India. | ||
| So I mean, go figure. | ||
| But there's like, it's just ridiculous. | ||
| It's totally ridiculous. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| No, that that is that is a great point. | ||
| And by the way, who was it who was calling Americans lazy? | ||
| Vivek Ramaswamy. | ||
| Let's not forget that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It was Elon pushing for the cheap workers. | ||
| The scam point you mentioned, I think, is very important. | ||
| It turns out, I don't know if you've noticed this, but a lot of these allege, you know, massive scientific breakthroughs in the papers. | ||
| No, the Chinese and the Indians openly cheat. | ||
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| There's photos of them crawling out of windows to like pass the answers to someone. | ||
| We live in a high, or we used to, I hope we can get it back. | ||
| America is a very traditionally a high trust society. | ||
| And when you're letting, oh, look at the scar scores this person got on these tests. | ||
| Yeah, well, the odds are they're probably cheating. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's funny that Vescent said that because, or Besant, sorry for mispronouncing his name, I like him. | ||
| Because there it is, another example of Trump goes out and says something stupid about bringing in foreign workers and everybody around him has to rush out. | ||
| And well, what he meant was, but you're right. | ||
| Will they go back? | ||
| And you also reminded me, one among the many ways H-1B workers harm Americans, it is, of course, taking American jobs. | ||
| All these American kids are told, major in a STEM field, major in computer science, major in mathematics. | ||
| Oh, you'll be set for life. | ||
| That's so great. | ||
| And then, oh, sorry, your job went to an Indian, a low-priced Indian. | ||
| But also, the Indians and the Chinese and the H-1B workers come in and then they bring their elderly parents so they can instantly go on Social Security. | ||
| They can bring the whole village in whom you'll be paying for, America. | ||
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| I think we've like invented new castes of Indians just in America alone, like in Silicon Valley. | ||
| I mean, like, for example, and I totally agree with your prior point where like Besson, yeah, like they have to come out and kind of smooth over everything. | ||
| And then we can talk about Gnome's Commons later, obviously. | ||
| But like to your point with the H-1B, it's like, okay, yes, they're taking jobs, but they're also, and this is a very valid concern to have, is they're changing our communities. | ||
| I mean, there's all across the United States, I grew up outside of Memphis, Tennessee, a very American place. | ||
| It's primarily black and white. | ||
| It's been that way for its entire existence. | ||
| The suburb I grew up in, I was looking at the elementary school I was zoned to, and FedEx is headquartered right outside, right outside of this school. | ||
| So FedEx has brought in all these H-1B workers. | ||
| They're battery farming, like Indians, basically. | ||
| And the demographics of this elementary school have radically swung from primarily being a black and white school to like 80% Asian. | ||
| And if you break that down, it's mostly South Asians. | ||
| And so it's like, yeah, the jobs, taking the jobs is, I think, the primary concern, obviously, because that impacts people directly. | ||
| But even the changing, like the demographic changing of some of these communities that are like around these major headquarters, that's a very valid concern as well. | ||
| And that's not being addressed as much. | ||
| Yes, yes. | ||
| Well, that's pretty much the theme of my book, Adios America. | ||
| People will talk about these other things, Americans losing jobs, the welfare. | ||
| They never really talked about the child, right? | ||
| But no, I mean, every we're allowed to not only is our culture objectively better than every other culture and country around the world. | ||
| It works. | ||
| It glistens. | ||
| We are the freest country in the world. | ||
| No other country comes close. | ||
| Everyone we bring in makes us less free, makes our culture different, makes us less of a high trust society. | ||
| You can take in little, you know, little bits of immigrants. | ||
| It's like, you know, putting a spice on a meal. | ||
| You have a nice filet mignon and put a little salt on it. | ||
| But if all you're getting is a huge chunk of salt, that's not the same recipe. | ||
| And it absolutely changes our culture when we're talking about some little pissant culture in the middle of the ocean where they're still running around in loincloths and haven't invented the wheel. | ||
| Oh, be careful. | ||
| Don't interrupt the indigenous culture. | ||
| We must protect it. | ||
| Okay, we've got the best culture in the world and we're not allowed to protect our culture. | ||
| No, I'm totally with you. | ||
| It is the culture that's being changed. | ||
| But it's to satisfy the big donors who want the cheap labor. | ||
| I mean, think of this. | ||
| This has been a problem in our country since the beginning. | ||
| Some people's need for slave labor. | ||
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And that worked out great last time. | |
| Literally, yeah. | ||
| Well, and then, and then like now with the current situation, all this is like secondary to it, the big issue here, which is birthright citizenship. | ||
| And this isn't being discussed as well. | ||
| And it's like, that's okay. | ||
| Again, let's just grant Besson's argument. | ||
| Let's just grant it. | ||
| Let's say it's a totally valid. | ||
| We need all these workers in. | ||
| And let's just even say we can guarantee compliance. | ||
| Let's say they're all coming here. | ||
| They're filing all their paperwork and they're leaving when they're supposed to. | ||
| If they pop a kid out here, they're here forever. | ||
| They're now part of America in perpetuity. | ||
| Like, there's no way to get them out. | ||
| So it's like, this is down. | ||
| There's so many layers to this. | ||
| There's so many, we're getting hit on every level. | ||
| I mean, it's just insane. | ||
| And then that goes-birthright citizenship. | ||
| And I insist on calling it anchor babies and not birthright. | ||
| But I mean, not just because it's more descriptive. | ||
| It's one thing to say legal immigrants here who have not yet been naturalized, but we looked them over, we admitted them. | ||
| We want them to be our fellow citizens. | ||
| It's one thing to say if they drop a baby, that baby is an American citizen. | ||
| It is another thing entirely to say an eight-month, you know, pregnant Mexican lady runs across the border, evades border patrol. | ||
| Ha ha, I dropped a baby. | ||
| You can't throw me out. | ||
| I mean, it's preposterous that this is what our founders, our framers, were thinking about the 14th Amendment right after the Civil War. | ||
| Literally, yeah. | ||
| 14th Amendment was about freed slaves. | ||
| That's all it was about. | ||
| The Supreme Court has held that over and over again. | ||
| Constitutionally, legally, it is preposterous to apply that to illegal aliens. | ||
| It is apparently going to go before the Supreme Court. | ||
| I hope they follow the law and not, oh, it's been around for a while. | ||
| We don't want to upset expectations. | ||
| But it is at least true that Congress and the president could absolutely pass a law and say this is not what the 14th Amendment means. | ||
| And the president, as long as he is president, could use an executive order to do that. | ||
| One other thing on the anchor babies: don't be fooled by studies claiming more Americans are on welfare, more Americans are accepting SNAP benefits. | ||
| Oh, no, no. | ||
| Overwhelmingly immigrant-headed households, illegal immigrant-headed households, most of all, are massive consumers of welfare, but they said, but it's for the baby, the anchor baby. | ||
| They just dropped. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah, it's information from CIS, Center for Immigration Studies. | ||
| They do great work. | ||
| And the data they use is from the government. | ||
| So they always get, it's like all they're doing is just filtering it so you can read it. | ||
| And the data they put out, 56% of foreign-born led households are on some form of welfare, whatever that is, versus I think it was about 43% of Native Americans. | ||
| So it's like the whole argument that like immigration is our strength for like, you know, insert reason here. | ||
| You just look at that one data point, it just completely falls apart right in front of your very eyes. | ||
| I mean, it's absolutely insane. | ||
| And I want to take that and pivot into Kirsty Noam's comments this morning. | ||
| It was absolutely insane. | ||
| I'm sure you got a good look at it. | ||
| The audience, for I mean, we discussed it early in the show. | ||
| For those who didn't see it, the base is obviously like crashing out over this. | ||
| They're PO'd for good reason. | ||
| They're saying, Trump, we need an explanation. | ||
| Like, what is this? | ||
| And Kirsty Noam's like, you know what? | ||
| The base wants to hear right now. | ||
| Guys, I have good news. | ||
| They're not illegal. | ||
| We naturalized all of them. | ||
| Absolutely insane. | ||
| No, the explanation is Christy Noam is a bimbo. | ||
| She was absolutely the cabinet nominee. | ||
| I vociferously opposed. | ||
| The rest of them I either didn't have an opinion on, some I wasn't wild about, but then, oh, okay, that hearing was okay. | ||
| Some I really loved. | ||
| But Christy Noam, huge, huge, huge mistake, very stupid, should be removed from the role. | ||
| And I mean, this is what Republicans were dealing with until Adios America came along. | ||
| This, this legal, good, illegal, bad. | ||
| I mean, it's this instinct they have to be nice to, I don't know, their grandfathers who immigrated from Scandinavia or Ireland. | ||
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| That's not what we're talking about. | ||
| Since 1970, about 90% of legal immigrants come from the third world. | ||
| It's basically indistinguishable from illegal immigrants. | ||
| But I remember when Trump was running for president in 2016, he was the only Republican president. | ||
| I mean, until Santorum got blown away, he got like 1% in Iowa. | ||
| So I'm not counting Santorum. | ||
| Of the 16 who remained, Trump was the only Republican who did not support amnesty. | ||
| That's where our party was. | ||
| It's stunning to think of that. | ||
| So this naturalize them, and that's what we need. | ||
| That was Ted Cruz's way of being for amnesty. | ||
| His plan was: okay, they won't come in illegally, but we'll bring in just as many legally. | ||
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| This is kind of defeating the point. | ||
| I mean, that's why I talk about changing our entire culture. | ||
| You can't be bringing them in by the million where they live together in little ethnic ghettos, as we're seeing right now out in Minnesota. | ||
| It's the opposite of assimilation. | ||
| But man, Christy Noam, that's fantastic. | ||
| Good job. | ||
| So you're naturalizing them so that Gavin Newsom will have even more voters next year or three years when he's running against JD Vance. | ||
| Fantastic, Christy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Just like, oh, it's not a problem anymore. | ||
| Now I've filed some paperwork. | ||
| They're good. | ||
| This is the problem with this class of conservatives that's still around. | ||
| They're still very present. | ||
| And obviously here, they're flexing their muscles is they just divide the world between Americans and future Americans. | ||
| And there's nothing actually distinctive about being an American. | ||
| And this was one of the last things Charlie Kirk sort of posed to the American people and specifically to the conservative movement. | ||
| One of the last questions he asked, I mean, you can go look on his Twitters. | ||
| One of the last questions he asked is, what is an American? | ||
| Like, if we're going to, if we're going to, you know, build out this deportation, you know, infrastructure and we're going to tighten our borders up and we're going to like sort of re reconstitute how we bring immigrants into the country. | ||
| The question that needs to be answered is, what is an American? | ||
| Is it paperwork? | ||
| Like, that seems to be what Christine Noam's suggesting. | ||
| And she's like, don't worry, we did some paperwork. | ||
| They're good now. | ||
| And yeah, the base obviously is clued in here, but I mean, I want to ask you that question. | ||
| What is an American? | ||
| Two things. | ||
| One is I was amazed, well, about many things after Charlie Kirk's assassination, but one is I hadn't really watched him for a while. | ||
| I couldn't believe how great he had gotten on every single issue. | ||
| He was not always like that. | ||
| He banned me from TP USA because of my position on immigration. | ||
| And wow, did he come around? | ||
| So he was fantastic toward the end. | ||
| I had no idea how great he had become. | ||
| And on what is an American, I strongly recommend all your viewers read the book by the great Harvard professor. | ||
| I think he's passed away now. | ||
| Samuel Huntington called Who Are We? | ||
| I cite it extensively in my book, Adios America. | ||
| But yeah, he's a smart guy who said it's more than paperwork. | ||
| And one of the points he makes, which I think is quite clever, he says, what if America had been colonized by the French? | ||
| Would we be a different country? | ||
| Well, no, we'd be Canada. | ||
| What if America were colonized by the Spanish? | ||
| No, then we would be Latin America. | ||
| It is the specific culture brought to us by the greatest culture in the world, the British Isles. | ||
| And the sun never sets on the British Empire. | ||
| Just turns out we're the colony that did the best. | ||
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| So be it. | ||
| Well, yeah, but they sent over all the Patriots. | ||
| That's how it goes. | ||
| Also, they made this argument with, I don't think you heard this with the English women is that all the best ones came to America and Australia. | ||
| That's why I like, you know, anyway, I digress. | ||
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| That's what Detocqueville wrote because he said back in London, they're all fainting of the vapors and having you know giving tea to one another. | ||
| Whereas American women, they were willing to saddle up and conquer the frontier with their man. | ||
| And that's why he said American women had such strong backbone and were so much preferable to European women. | ||
| It's the best, man. | ||
| American women are the best. | ||
| They're just fantastic. | ||
| And we don't need the H-1B amount. | ||
| We're good. | ||
| We got it. | ||
| I guess kind of back to the Trump thing. | ||
| So there's been obviously huge vitriol. | ||
| I would say within the base, but then even within this broader, sort of vaguely right-wing movement. | ||
| Obviously, there's like the podcast bros, these sorts of people that have kind of piled in once they saw which way the wind was blowing coming into this last election. | ||
| Some people, I feel like, look, with Trump, I think the utility of Trump has always been that he consistently moves the football down the field. | ||
| Like you talked about in 2016, all these people wanted mass amnesty. | ||
| Now mass deportations are at least on the table. | ||
| And that's primarily because of Donald Trump. | ||
| But you have a lot of people that are trying to, it seems like, just call it like MAGA dead, dead in the water, saying, oh, MAGA's dead. | ||
| Some people are saying, oh, this is just Biden with a stronger border, these sorts of things. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I still feel like Trump is still a viable. | ||
| I think if people, I don't think you've heard you use the term chimp out. | ||
| I think if the base chimps out enough, you can sort of steer Trump in the right direction because at least it seems like the admin is in some way responsive to the base. | ||
| Yes, yes. | ||
| Well, take it from me. | ||
| Trump can betray you. | ||
| That isn't the end of MAGA. | ||
| He betrayed us on the wall when the deportations and DACA and I tried to betray us on amnesty really pretty spectacularly, term one. | ||
| And I started, as you just said, sort of gently giving him constructive criticism, like showing up in the Oval Office and screaming at him for 15 minutes. | ||
| And then I just gave up after he signed his third spending bill with no wall funding. | ||
| He's been fantastic so far, but I mean, the most important point is MAGA doesn't die. | ||
| MAGA is the winning formula. | ||
| Any Republican who takes that formula will do well. | ||
| I mean, I suppose, unless they have some horribly embarrassing scandal, like being stupid like Christine No. | ||
| But MAGA doesn't die. | ||
| And that is what part of what really needs to be preserved. | ||
| I think JD Vance is absolutely true blue MAGA. | ||
| There are a few others. | ||
| Marco Rubio is another one who's completely flipped. | ||
| He's like a joke figure in my book, Adios America. | ||
| Man, has he come around? | ||
| So MAGA is alive and well. | ||
| And yeah, I think the base does need to put pressure on Trump. | ||
| I mean, for one thing, I'll give you an example of when I think MAGA pressure worked. | ||
| I think a lot of the base, I was among them, did not want us to strike Iran. | ||
| That was back this summer. | ||
| And, you know, because we were just worried, okay, we strike them, then we have troops, and then they attack the troops. | ||
| And then, oh my gosh, but now they're firing on Americans and there we are involved in another ground war. | ||
| But I think you can't run the experiment twice, but I think it was because of the MAGA pushback, including from Charlie Kirk. | ||
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| And I think Steve Bannon, it was just the strike and that's it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, okay, fine. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| You didn't get us involved in a ground war. | ||
| And in the past, it has been the base that has pulled, it's reeled Trump back in from telling us how wonderful the dreamers are. | ||
| And let's go. | ||
| We're going to get some of these wonderful kids. | ||
| And by the way, you look at them standing there. | ||
| They're all obese and unattractive. | ||
| No, no, these aren't wonderful people. | ||
| Send them home. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| It's, yeah, it's, it's, they're not sending their best. | ||
| It's like the truest thing he ever said. | ||
| Or worse than that, what if they are sending their best? | ||
| It would explain a lot. | ||
| That's for sure. | ||
| It would explain like the entire third countries. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The one thing I'm sort of before I like fully, because you know, a lot of people are coming on glued on, specifically on Twitter. | ||
| And a lot of it's a valid crash. | ||
| I'll concede that. | ||
| I'm still waiting for Stephen Miller to weigh in because from my perspective, he seems to be the guy that has the sort of clearest understanding of the immigration issue and where it's gotten us. | ||
| I mean, maybe you could explain Stephen Miller's role because it seems like his role has really expanded in this second term. | ||
| Thank God. | ||
| Oh, oh, yes, I totally agree. | ||
| When I get depressed, I just fantasize about a Stephen Miller presidency someday. | ||
| No, thank God he's there. | ||
| And I mean, I almost don't want to praise him too much because, you know, Trump can get his feelings hurt. | ||
| He might get jealous and get rid of Miller. | ||
| So no, no, no, it's all you, sir. | ||
| We couldn't do it without you. | ||
| We really couldn't do it without him. | ||
| I mean, he does have a very strong presence and everything. | ||
| But it's comforting to know that Stephen Miller is there. | ||
| And it's very important that Trump listen to Stephen Miller and not to the people who give him advice when everything goes to crap. | ||
| I mean, you know, it was Jared Kushner's advice to fire Comey. | ||
| Everybody's going to love it. | ||
| Liberals will love that. | ||
| Fantastic. | ||
| And at least according to reporting I've heard in New York, he was assuring people in 2016, oh, Trump's not going to build a wall. | ||
| So I don't know, compare what happens when you take Stephen Miller's advice. | ||
| Ah, good things happen. | ||
| Flowers come up. | ||
| You win elections to what happens when you listen to other people's advice. | ||
| Is it Luttnick, by the way? | ||
| I've heard people say it's Lutnik who's pushing for the H-1B visas. | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
| I know you're interviewing me, but I don't know the answer to that. | ||
| Yeah, I've heard Luttnick and same thing with the 50-year mortgage proposal. | ||
| They're saying Pulte is kind of behind that. | ||
| So you have these like, these like guys that are just like, I don't know, like settling scores behind the scenes. | ||
| It's strangest, strangest behavior. | ||
| Or that, you know, that 50-year mortgage, this is an example. | ||
| I could write a book about this. | ||
| Every problem gets easier if it's not entirely solved just by dealing with immigration. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Just by throwing out illegals, just by not admitting a bunch of poor, dysfunctional people from the most disparate cultures imaginable to ours don't speak English. | ||
| I mean, the money just being wasted on the translators in court, on the arrest, the crime, the jails, the English as a second language classes, and we're not even getting to the welfare benefits and the food stamps and the housing aid. | ||
| And oh my gosh, they're all getting Obamacare. | ||
| Okay, just that gives us so much money. | ||
| And on housing, I mean, throw a problem at me and I'll tell you why immigration makes it better. | ||
| You get rid of all these immigrants who either committed fraud on their legal immigration applicants, like, oh, for example, Ilan Omar, and all of the illegals. | ||
| And wow, a lot of housing opens up. | ||
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| Like half of New York City, like right away, like the world's most expensive city becomes pretty affordable. | ||
| Like it used to be when Trump was growing up. | ||
| You could like buy a house in Queens. | ||
| That wasn't unreasonable. | ||
| And then now, because like the entire world's piled in there, you have like eight Guyanese people piled into a two-bedroom house. | ||
| It's just like completely Stephen Miller gets it. | ||
| I've always maintained, you know, there's a lot of people on the right that are expressing concern over rising anti-Semitism. | ||
| I think Stephen Miller is the anecdote. | ||
| He's turned me into a full-blown philo semi. | ||
| I love Stephen Miller so much. | ||
| He's so good. | ||
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I know. | |
| So good when you got one on your side. | ||
| Well, and we're vouchsafing. | ||
| We're running low on time. | ||
| Thank you so much for taking the time. | ||
| I don't know if you have any final thoughts on where people, I mean, people know where to find you, but where they could find you. | ||
| And culture.substack.com. | ||
| You get a column, a video, and a podcast every week, and sometimes just random little jokes I send out. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| Thank you so much, Anne. | ||
| This has been such a pleasure. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| All right. | ||
| See you later. | ||
| All right, guys. | ||
| Well, that was the ancul. | ||
| That was so fun. | ||
| She is fantastic. | ||
| Unfortunately, it was for a grim reason, which is like everything that's been going on with Trump and Kirsty Gnome specifically. | ||
| I'm glad she said it because I don't know if I'm allowed to say some of those things. | ||
| So it's very fantastic. | ||
| With that, we will be back tonight for Timcast IRL at 8 p.m. | ||
| This interview will be up on the culture at 4 p.m. in case you missed it. | ||
| Fantastic stuff. | ||
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| Come give me a follow. | ||
| Come hang out. | ||
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