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Democrats CAUGHT Framing Trump On Epstein, Leaked Emails Show Journalist COLLUSION :+1: 1

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tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Democrats recently released emails from Jeffrey Epstein, as well as emails between Jeffrey Epstein and journalist Michael Wolf, which they said proves Donald Trump was engaged in untoward activity, and that is an understatement.
		However, shortly after the release of these emails, it only people noticed the victim's name that was redacted was in fact Virginia Jufray, who had already testified years ago that Trump never did anything wrong.
		So, the question then becomes: why did Democrats choose to redact the name of an individual who had already testified Trump never did anything wrong?
		It's because they know that Virginia Jufre testified this, and by redacting the victim, no one knows who the victim supposedly is, and it implies Trump did something wrong.
		In other words, they're trying to frame Donald Trump.
		Now, hey, don't get me wrong.
		I want the Epstein files released.
		I'm with Thomas Massey and RoConna.
		Let's go, baby.
		I don't know why Kash Patel, Dan Bongino, or anybody else is saying there's nothing going on.
		And they haven't given us a good enough reason to believe nothing is going on.
		So they botched this one.
		Let's see the Epstein files released, what they've got, what they can release.
		I'm assuming most of it's gone anyway.
		And I don't necessarily trust any of it, but I'm not playing these games.
		That being said, Democrats tried to frame Donald Trump and got caught the same day.
		And it is insane.
		But where are we?
		As a country, where are we?
		Do you think any Democrat's going to admit this?
		No.
		What's her face Crockett was on CNN?
		And when asked about it, she says, I don't know, whatever, who cares?
		Whatever, who cares?
		Something to affect.
		Now, the bigger scandal here, in my opinion, which is shocking, is evidence of collusion between a journalist and Jeffrey Epstein to smear Donald Trump.
		That's right.
		In 2018, the guy who wrote this book, Attacking Donald Trump, was advising Jeffrey Epstein on how to respond to the press to make Trump look bad.
		Now, what I really love about this is all of the Democrats that are just like, Jeffrey Epstein's word is law.
		That's right.
		Emails from a guy who is a trafficker certainly are credible, and they're going to take them all at face value.
		Okay.
		Well, Donald Trump has been accused of being an informant on Jeffrey Epstein, though Speaker Johnson walked that back.
		Donald Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar-a-Lago decades ago because he found out the guy was around young girls and he said, I don't want whatever that is.
		And then people are saying, well, why did he never tell law enforcement?
		Well, that may be the case, maybe not.
		I don't know.
		So I'd like to see whatever they've got.
		And it's time we get the big picture, the real picture.
		So long as Trump's not releasing this, Democrats are weaponizing it against him.
		So we're going to talk about that, my friends.
		And I got to tell you, with all this drama, the government shutdowns, I think Trump's losing the younger generation.
		And I think a turn has happened in the past couple of weeks, which is not favorable for the Republicans.
		I'll put it like that.
		And this story, while it certainly makes Democrats look bad, it is drama-bait garbage.
		Now, this is the big story politically.
		It's the big political scandal.
		I think it's important to call out Democrats when they do this stuff.
		I think it's important to additionally say, okay, Trump released the Epstein files.
		But man, I got to tell you guys, it is demoralizing because I'm really worried about the border, the economy, H-1Bs, and all of those things, which, of course, I've talked about, but this is where we are.
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	Let's get into the news from Politico.
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	Thank you for hanging out and watching the show for this, the Rumble Morning lineup.
	And then I will just give a quick blurb.
	After this, we're going to be talking about the Geostorm, the magnetic storm that nearly destroyed the planet the other day.
	That's not a joke.
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	Here's the news from Politico as we bring it back to Earth.
	Latest Epstein files knock White House on its heels.
	The latest revelations stand to further fracture a party that's already splintered once this year over the so-called Epstein files during a much less politically fraught moment.
	Following a brutal week for Trump, during which his party took a beating at the polls, Supreme Court seemed skeptical of his beloved tariffs.
	And Republicans continue to feud over accusations of anti-Semitism.
	The White House had hoped to take a victory lap on ending the 43-day government shutdown.
	But on Wednesday, House Democrats released documents revealing that in the words of the late convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, Trump, quote, knew about the girls.
	The late convicted offender was trafficking the latest blow to a White House already reeling from a series of setbacks.
	One Trump ally said the latest Epstein discourse has taken things that are already complicated for the president and brings them to the surface.
	It's like adding salt to a dish.
	The flavors are already there.
	It just accentuates all of them, said the person who was granted anonymity to speak candidly about the issue.
	The fresh wave of chaos has knocked administration on its heels.
	The president lashed out at Republicans on social media.
	Some House Republicans are under pressure to withdraw from the effort to bring the matter to the floor.
	And White House Press Secretary Carolyn Levitt blamed the media.
	Quote, this is another distraction campaign by the Democrats and the liberal media.
	And it's why I'm being asked questions about Epstein instead of the government reopening because of Republicans and President Trump.
	Privately, White House aides push back on the idea that this is a particularly bad moment for them, but they have suffered a string of defeats.
	They never expected to win last week's elections, and that it's too early to judge the outcome of the tariff case.
	With justices lobbying tough questions at both sides, said a senior White House official, and they're characterizing the latest Epstein document release as nothing more than annoying.
	I definitely would not say it's been brutal, said the senior White House official, granted anonymity.
	We are used to waking up every day and not knowing what the day will bring.
	That's the nature of working on this job.
	Well, my friends, Trump has responded on Truth Social saying, the Democrats are trying to bring up the Jeffrey Epstein hoax again because they'll do anything at all to deflect on how badly they've done on the shutdown and so many other subjects.
	Only a very bad or stupid Republican would fall into that trap.
	The Democrats cost our country $1.5 trillion with their recent anthics of viciously closing our country, while at the same time putting many at risk.
	And they should pay a fair price.
	There should be no deflections to Epstein or anything else.
	And any Republicans involved should be focused only on opening up our country and fixing the massive damage caused by the Democrats.
	He continued.
	In other words, the Democrats are using the Jeffrey Epstein hoax to try and deflect from their massive failures, in particular their most recent one, the shutdown.
	Now I'm going to say it again, my friends.
	Release the Epstein files, what they've got.
	I am totally on board with that.
	It should be done.
	That being said, Democrats are lying.
	Here's the image that got released.
	Shout out to MJ Truth Ultra on X for this graphic.
	From GMAX to JEE Vacation, which is apparently Jeffrey Epstein.
	This is Jeffrey Epstein said, I want you to realize that that dog that hasn't barked is Trump.
	Dot, dot, dot.
	Victim spent hours at my house with him.
	He has never once been mentioned.
	Police, chief, et cetera.
	I'm 75% there.
	Heavens me.
	When this email came out, I was getting texts from the press saying, Tim, what do you have to say about this?
	And I'm like, look, the greater right wants the Epstein files released, and the Trump diehards are saying, we want results.
	We don't care about this.
	However, here's the best part.
	Democrats redacted the name of the victim.
	The purpose here was to make it so that you did not know who the victim was and you couldn't look into what they were talking about.
	Because here's the real email.
	I want you to realize that that dog that hasn't barked is Trump.
	Virginia spent hours at my house with him.
	He has never once been mentioned.
	Heavens me.
	The reason why that's so alarming?
	Well, Virginia Juffre had already testified that Donald Trump did nothing wrong.
	I don't know if I have one pulled up right here.
	No, I got the Krazen scenes.
	We'll get to that in a second.
	Juffrey had already said, here we go.
	MJ Truth Ultra says, Democrats intentionally redacted Virginia because the name would 100% vindicate him.
	Rob Schmidt, this shows how sick and twisted Democrats in the mainstream media are.
	They redacted the victim's name because they knew that releasing it would destroy their narrative.
	They redacted Virginia Jufre's name because in her own depositions and memoir, she stated that Donald Trump never did anything wrong and was a perfect gentleman.
rob schmitt ▲ ● ▼		Hey guys, big headline this morning about Epstein and Trump and this underage victim that Trump reportedly spent hours with.
		If anything proves to you just how vile the people that we're dealing with are, how disgusting the media is, and how aligned the Democrat agenda is with the broader mainstream media.
		It's just this story is everywhere.
		New York Times, Washington Post, Wall Street Journal, every cable channel.
		This is the front page.
		This is the big top story.
		And it alleges something absolutely heinous, that Trump spent hours at his house with one of the victims of Epstein, and it just leaves it right there because they just want you to see that headline.
		Trump spent hours with a victim.
		Oh, what comes into your head when you think about that headline?
		That's exactly what they want you to do.
		Here's the problem.
		And this is how disgusting these people are.
		They redact the name of the alleged victim, and they did that for a reason, because the name of that victim would blow up their whole story.
		So they redact that part.
		Republicans were quick to unmask that redaction.
		The name is Virginia Duffrey, a young lady who, in depositions and also in her own memoir, a book that she wrote, said that Donald Trump never did anything wrong and was a perfect gentleman the entire time.
unidentified		They concealed that, and now your entire XP and the media are all just out there alleging, oh, this is the smoking gun.
rob schmitt ▲ ● ▼		See, he's a pedophile.
		This is how sick and twisted these people are.
		They are vile creatures.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Indeed.
		Indeed, they are, my friends.
		And it is demoralizing.
		We've got this clip.
unidentified		This is an email from April 2nd.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Jasmine Crockett, how does she respond to the fact that Democrats tried framing Donald Trump?
unidentified		This is an email from April 2nd, 2011.
		Republicans were saying that that victim is Virginia Juffrey.
		As you know, she died by suicide.
		She's a very outspoken, very outspoken victim of Jeffrey Epstein.
		Here's the email right here on your screen.
		She wrote a book, as you know, and she did not accuse him of any wrongdoing.
jasmine crockett ▲ ● ▼		What do you make about it?
unidentified		Can you confirm that?
jasmine crockett ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I don't know.
		Obviously, it's redacted who the victim is.
		So I won't necessarily take the Republicans' word on who it is that's redacted.
		And I don't know why they would necessarily redact someone's name who is deceased at this point.
unidentified		The Democrats did that, though.
unidentified		The Democrats were down.
jasmine crockett ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
		I understand, but I'm just saying, like, our biggest concern is to actually make sure that we are protecting victims.
		And obviously, she wrote a book.
		She told her truth.
unidentified		This is an email from April 2nd.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So, Jasmine Crockett, of course, trying to make the claim that, yeah, I don't believe it.
		The name's redacted.
		So, who knows who it could have been?
		It was Virginia Juffrey.
		And they did this to frame Trump.
		Check this out.
		From MJ Truth Ultra, here's the real scandal.
		MJ says, OMG, I just realized something.
		The real scandal in these emails isn't Trump and Epstein.
		It's Michael Wolf, a leading journalist coaching a convicted sex offender on how to manipulate a presidential candidate for personal and political gain.
		This is very serious, actually.
		Take Wolf's book, for example, Fire and Fury Siege Landslide, which he profited off of Trump's presidency for millions.
		Now we know that Wolf was advising Epstein during the campaign.
		Every explosive claim in the books is now under a cloud of conflict of interest.
		Why isn't anyone talking about this?
		Why was a journalist coaching a pedo?
		Let me pull this up so we can zoom in on it.
		This is from 2015 from Michael Wolfe to Jeffrey Epstein.
		And we can see the chain.
		The first email Wolf sent was: I hear CNN planning to ask Trump tonight about his relationship with you, either on air or in scrum afterwards.
		Epstein responds: If we were able to craft an answer for him, what do you think it should be?
		Wolf says, I think you should let him hang himself.
		If he says he hasn't been on the plane or to the house, then that gives you a valuable PR and political currency.
		You can hang him in a way that potentially generates a positive benefit for you.
		Or, if it really looks like he could win, you could save him generating a debt.
		Of course, it is possible that when asked, he'll say Jeffrey is a great guy and has gotten a raw deal and is a victim of political correctness, which is to be outlawed in the Trump regime.
		This was not Michael Wolf saying, burn him down.
		This was him saying, Here's how you maximize benefit to protect yourself.
		This is Michael Wolf saying, you could save Trump and generate a debt with him.
		This was a man telling Jeffrey Epstein how to save himself.
		Why?
		Why?
		For those that aren't familiar, this guy wrote the book, Fire and Fury Inside the Trump White House.
		It is a book by journalist Michael Wolfe, which, according to Wolf, details the behavior of Trump, his staff, and his 2016 campaign.
		The title refers to a quote by Trump about the conflict with North Korea.
		The book highlights description.
		I'm sorry, the book became a New York Times number one bestseller.
		Reviewers generally accepted Wolfe's portrait of a dysfunctional Trump administration, but were skeptical of many Wolf's particular claims.
		The book highlights descriptions of Trump's behavior, chatting interactions among senior White House staff, and derogatory comments about the Trump family by former White House Chief Judger Steve Bannon.
		Trump is depicted as being held in low regard by his staff, leading Wolf to claim that 100% of the people around him believe Trump is unfit for office.
		And that is a psychotic lie.
		And I can tell you this because I have been in the presence of Trump and his staff, and everybody loves the man, which is just so insane for him to assert that people think he's unfit.
		I go to Mar-a-Lago, and there are people trying to, they're following Trump around like bad farts, desperately trying to talk to him because they want to be around the guy.
		They want to talk to him.
		They want time with him.
		They know he is a capable man.
		By all means, rag on Trump for literally any reason you want.
		Trump is worthy of criticism for a lot of reasons.
		But this, this is very strange.
		In 2015, according to these emails, assuming it's true, Michael Wolf, who wrote this book smearing Trump, was advising Jeffrey Epstein on how to benefit himself, even if it meant saving Trump.
		So it wasn't an anti-Trump setup.
		It was a pro-Epstein setup, which is very strange for this man who later went on to write this book about Trump and make lots of money off it, according to the reports.
		Democrats are trying to frame Trump.
		We can see that.
		What's interesting is this story.
		Two months ago, Mike Johnson claimed Trump was an anti-Epstein informant, then retreated amid criticism.
		House Speaker made a baffling claim that the president worked with the FBI to take down Epstein before later backing away.
		I think this actually may be the case.
		Or it's a probability.
		Speaker Johnson knows things that we don't.
		And he was being asked about it.
		And he said Trump was an informant to the FBI.
		Could it be that the reason Trump doesn't want to release Epstein files is because it will expose him as a snitch, not just on Epstein, but on a lot of stuff.
		I think there's a strong probability there.
	And it's funny, I brought this up a while ago, and these liberals were like, Tim thinks that Trump was a secret hero with the FBI.
	And I'm like, what I am telling all of you is that if word got out Trump was a snitch to the FBI on a bunch of other prominent, powerful people, it would be knives out for the man.
	He'd lose donors.
	They'd come after him.
	So yeah, he wants to cover it up.
	As if somehow that's me defending Trump.
	Well, it's because they want the narrative to be that Trump is a pedo.
	And I'm like, maybe, probably not.
	I mean, I think, I feel like if they really had that evidence, they would have released it and not be doing these stupid schemes.
	I think there's a possibility.
	I don't know if it's a 10% or a 1%.
	Johnson shouldn't have said what he said.
	He walked it back later.
	Maybe he actually knew behind the scenes that Trump was asked by the FBI about Epstein, snitched on him, and the FBI said, What about other guys?
	And Trump was like, I'll give you everything.
	Could you imagine if it turns out that Trump has Mar-a-Lago bugged?
	So when powerful people come for meetings, he records it and sends it off to the feds.
	What would happen to Mar-a-Lago, were that the case?
	I must think it's true.
	I don't know for sure.
	What I can say is this is a big distraction.
	And where we are going right now as a country, it is, man, demoralizing to see.
	Rich Barris says the Republican Party might have blown their window to capture Trump's coalition.
	I agree.
	I've been having some conversations with other conservative personalities, and we're in a bad period.
	You know, I wonder how many people are willing to actually bring it up.
	There's a lot of things happening that people freaked out.
	And this ain't it.
	First, let's start with the Candace Owens drama stuff.
	Candace Owens, of course, announcing how she's the number one podcast in the world.
	Congratulations, by the way, by creating true crime news.
	It's a combination of news-relevant information and true crime e-drama, where she shows text messages between her and Charlie Kirk.
	She has a tweet in reference to the Israel donor saying Erica knows everything, and it's generated lots of views for her.
	I don't care all that much, to be honest.
	It is kind of like, well, congratulations, like, dude, if I did a true crime e-drama thing, like I get more views.
	You do shot content.
	You do kind of stuff fine.
	The issue that I have, it's demoralizing is it's a large portion of our news cycle right now that conservative women in Candace are fighting with each other or that Ben Shapiro is on Megan Kelly and we're debating the merits of the conspiracy theory.
	By all means, conspiracy theories are allowed.
	I'm saying we're not even talking about the conspiracy theory.
	We're not talking conspiracy theory.
	We're talking about a conspiracy theory drama between these people.
	And I'm just sitting here being like, well, the H-1Bs are getting kicked up.
	China's Visa are getting kicked up.
	And this is what people want, huh?
	Leave me out of it.
	It's demoralizing because people are like, oh, I'm going to go watch the drama show.
	Go ahead.
	It's cringe.
	And I don't care.
	Look, I get it.
	Drama show stuff, you get way more views.
	You make way more money.
	You do you.
	So we've got that.
	But on top of that, as a point I made, the next big issue is, of course, the H-1Bs, the Visas.
	Young people are checking out.
	Gen Z is being told by the Trump administration, go F yourselves.
	And I'm like, dude, half of Gen Z is retarded already and going socialist.
	The other half is Zoomerwaffen being like, Trump ain't going to do it.
	We're going to do it for ourselves.
	And they're going to go watch Nick Fuentes.
	That's what we're getting from young people.
	That's where we're at.
	And so I look at that, and it's demoralizing.
	And then on top of that, you've got the economic crisis that we're dealing with that seems to be masked up.
	I've spoken with many other right-leaning personalities behind the scenes who are all pointing out, as I mentioned in my earlier morning segment, that ad rates are really low relative to where they should be right now.
	Viewership on YouTube is down even for an off year, like an off a cycle year.
	Now, the expectation is next year things will kick up.
	But you have a combination of factors.
	Gen Z is checking out.
	They're checking out.
	They're not getting anything from the Trump administration.
	So they're tuning out of these videos.
	Like, I don't care about politics anymore.
	Trump's knifing me in the back, and Democrats want to give kids sex changes.
	So Gen Z is like later.
	And you can see it happening.
	So they're not watching the videos.
	Not to mention the economy is bad.
	Grocery prices are up and it's being masked.
unidentified		So all of this, all of this.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And the big story is Democrats putting out fake emails from 14 years ago.
		I say fake in the sense that they've altered them through adaption to manipulate people.
		It's kind of like you see those, what's that comedy segment, unnecessary censorship, where the person will say something like former, but they'll bleep the middle.
		So you hear off and er.
		So it sounds like they're saying, you know, effer.
		That's what Democrats basically did.
		On the right, half the news is about Candace Owens' e-drama with other personalities, Ben Shapiro on Megan Kelly, and it's just nothing to do with the shape of this country.
		It is disgusting.
		Demoralizing is an understatement.
		I'm really, I got to be honest, I'm looking at this and being like, well, the H-1B visa thing is basically saying we should all go screw ourselves.
		And Republicans won't end the filibuster.
		The government shutdown was fake politicking.
		Democrats are just making this fake email stuff.
		And then I'm told that I should be really worried about the number one podcast, Candace Owens, showing her texts from Charlie Kirk and the drama that surrounds it.
		And I'm like, I'm going to go build an underground bunker with the, you know, a bunker in the mountains and just leave.
		Because this is where we're at.
		We are done.
		I don't know.
		I mean, we got violence in the streets.
		We've got a shootout in Chicago.
		Some dude tried killing DHS guys.
		And, you know, this is what we get on social media.
		So when I see this, the Republican Party might have blown their window to capture Trump's coalition.
		I'm just like, yeah, yeah.
		You know, I'm looking at the violence at Turning Point USA and I'm looking at Turning Point and Candace.
		And it is true, someone at Turning Point was leaking stuff to her, like for what reason.
		And I'm wondering what Turning Point is doing.
		I don't hold Turning Point, you know, responsible for what Candace is doing, but I'm just like looking at this and I'm thinking to myself, okay, let me put it like this for all you guys.
		I don't care if Candace is right or wrong or Turning Point or anybody else in the drama is right or wrong.
		That's fine.
		People are allowed to do whatever they want.
		They're allowed to talk about whatever they want.
		The issue is that at the end of August, where were we as a country?
		We were here doing our shows, talking news and politics, of course, and preparing for the end of the year special, as we often do.
		There was a plan, there was a path.
		And for me, both personally and professionally, things were looking up.
		The show and everything here, we're growing.
		We're bringing on good people.
		We're expanding.
		We've got, you know, coffee sales are going up and memberships and board sales and organization.
		Skate night events we've been doing have been massively successful.
		So business is good.
		And politically, we're riding the wave, baby.
		Trump won.
		Let's keep going.
		Don't get me wrong.
		There were terror attacks throughout the year, but Trump was on track.
		I texted Charlie Kirk and I asked him, just following up on the plan for the end of the year, because Timcast IRL does Turning Points Amfest the past three years.
		It's an amazing experience and it's an honor and a privilege to be there.
		And Charlie texted me back.
		Look at me, revealing our texts, saying, let me circle back to the team and get you the details.
		We'll get it going.
		Because I said, hey, let's get this, let's get it set up so we can, you know, set everything up in advance.
		I've got some other PR opportunities and stuff in the area.
		And a week after that, they killed him.
		And so I'll tell you what I'm saying, what I'm feeling.
		That moment before Charlie was murdered, there was a path that we were on that was promising.
		Now, two months later, the narrative has turned into conspiracy drama about Charlie Kirk, if Turning Point was involved in it.
		References to Jewish donors pulling out and how Erica knew everything.
		And that's the narrative the number one podcast has given us.
		Candace can talk about whatever she wants.
		Same thing with Tucker Carlson.
		I will defend.
		No one has an obligation to hold my views or do what I want them to do.
	I'm not saying Candace should or should not do anything.
	My point is the audience effect of what I'm seeing.
	It felt like we were focused.
	Trump needed to win.
	The agenda needed to continue.
	Now, what do we have?
	Well, half the people are tweeting about the Jews.
	The other half are tweeting about how Turning Point killed Charlie.
	The number one podcast is just basically covering the true crime aspect of an assassination of Charlie, the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
	And I'm just like, focus is gone.
	Was Charlie really holding all of this together?
	Maybe?
	Seriously.
	And focus is gone.
	And it seems like H-1Bs with Trump, Chinese visas.
	And I'm just sitting here being like, wow, someone took a sledgehammer to the right coalition and splattered it and like goop sprang in every direction.
	We are all now completely dejected and ripped apart.
	Forgive me for being a little bit blackpilled on the issue.
	But then I take a look at that and Gen Z basically saying we don't care.
	And I'm like, okay, well, we lost, we're losing the younger generation.
	They're not pro-Trump.
	You've got the biggest right-leaning podcast is basically just true crime now.
	And again, I'm not saying that Candace doesn't have the right to do that.
	They're mad at Tucker for interviewing Nick Frontes, and he has every right to hold the opinions he wants to hold.
	I'm just saying right now, we are fractured.
	And the left is not.
	They're still up to their schemes, still doing their thing.
	It's demoralizing.
	It's completely demoralizing.
	How, you know, every day I talk about the news of the day, what's going on.
	We have guests come on to share their stories on these things.
	And then I'm like, I am told explicitly, no, no, no, no, no.
	No one cares about the shape of the country.
	It was always the grift.
	What's going to get the most clicks?
	Zejus?
	Well, for some people, that's played really, really well for them as they get new Pakistani and Indonesian followers.
	Some people were caught shilling for soda companies for cash.
	Other prominent conservatives were posting pro-India trade statements for cash.
	And I'm sitting here being like, Merrick Garland tried framing me and many others for taking money from foreign countries that we never did.
	My family's put at risk every day.
	And this is what people are doing.
	For what?
	For Trump to give out H-1Bs to Indians and student visas to the Chinese?
	Is that what we're really doing this for?
	So we can blame Turning Point for killing Charlie or make some drama out of it?
	Holy is that demoralizing.
	Sorry for blackpilling, but it is particularly brutal.
	We are beset on all sides by scumbaggery and villainy.
	And I don't know what else to tell you.
	Keep believing in good.
	Keep staying true to your views.
	And maybe those of us who walk towards the light trying to make this country something good for the future, for our children, our nation's children, we'll stay true to that and carry on.
	And if the rest were just liars and grifters, then we'll know that we did everything we could.
	And so that's all that I can do.
	Let me put it like this.
	A lot of people are complaining behind the scenes about the current state of politics on the right, particularly Tucker, Candace, Nick Fuentes.
	That's like a big drama thing on the right behind the scenes.
	And I got a bunch of people that have been privately saying things like they are sick of what Candace is doing because the view is she had a show that focused on news issues, but she's turned it into true crime news, which is no longer discussing prominent issues related to Trump, the border, international politics, and it's broken the focus of the right.
	I just say to them, Candace can talk about whatever she wants.
	You don't own the opinions of Tucker, Candace, Nick, me, or anybody else.
	However, I can certainly agree that the right is fractured.
	But my other issue is if you have that problem with her, then maybe you should go on X or make a video about it instead of just sitting back and mumbling to yourself.
	I'm going to wrap it there.
	We got bigger news to talk about, ladies and gentlemen.
	Aurora is seen in the sky.
	We'll be joined by Ben Davidson, space weather guy.
	It's going to be really fascinating at 4 p.m.
	For those watching the pre-recorded, smash the like button, share the show with everyone you know.
	Stay tuned.
	That'll be up again at 4 p.m.
	And we will see you all then.
	My friends, I want to show you this tweet from Ben Davidson.
	He says, minus 60 BZ will send us into the stone age if this doesn't break in the next hour or two.
	Fingers crossed, no time for anything but praying the red line gets smaller.
	Red line must go down now.
	Someone responded.
	Please elaborate for us plebeians.
	And he said, if this doesn't end, the world does tonight.
	This is in reference to the G4 geomagnetic storm, the strongest solar flare of 2025.
	In fact, it was so intense.
	People were posting photos of, let me see if I have, where's that photo at?
	A photo of an Aurora Borealis in this part of the country, this time of year.
	That's right, in Florida with a palm tree.
	Now, many people were enjoying the lights.
	I saw photos from friends and acquaintances all across this country.
	They saw the aurora as far south as Texas and Florida.
	How is that possible?
	The storm was so intense that Ben was saying this could end us.
	And we narrowly missed it.
	I want to bring Ben in to tell us exactly what's going on.
	As soon as I saw this, I hit at my crew.
	I was like, guys, we got to get Ben on.
	I got to talk to him about this.
	And so let's boot it up right now and bring in Ben who can break down for us exactly what is going on.
	Ben, how's it going?
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		It is going well.
unidentified		It's been a long three or four days, but calm is ensuing once again.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The world almost ended.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is that what happened?
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		There was a scary point where if the data had stayed where it was much longer, we would have had some serious grid issues.
		Luckily, it was only a few minutes later before the data started to come back to something that is a little less horrifying.
		Basically, during the impact from these solar storms the last couple of days, and there were three of them, during the initial impact, the disruption to Earth's magnetic field was at a level where if that had persisted for four or five hours, you and I would not be having this conversation right now.
		The grids would have gone down.
		Luckily, it only lasted about eight or nine minutes.
		Wow.
		But it was a scary eight or nine minutes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So I'm chilling, and all of a sudden I see everyone talking about the storm is coming.
		I'm sitting on my couch.
		I was sick past couple of days.
		And I see these posts showing this, the aurora is going to be visible for most of the United States, either on the horizon or directly above you.
		And we had clouds here in Master James, so I didn't see anything.
		But I see all these photos posted by people.
		One, I think you retweeted where someone's got a palm tree in Florida and they can see the aurora.
		This is not normal.
		I mean, in my life, I don't think I've ever experienced something like that.
		So people are all talking about how they were able to see the northern lights.
		How strange is that for something like that to occur?
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		Aurora's seen down there has happened maybe 10 times in a century.
		It's happened five times in the last two and a half years.
		And what's even scarier is what the sun is doing is nothing like what caused those events over the last century.
		And as you and I have had a conversation about a couple of times before, Earth's magnetic field is weakening.
		We're in the middle of a magnetic pole shift, also known as a geomagnetic excursion.
		And that is allowing everything that the sun throws at us to hit more impactfully.
		It's like we have less armor on, so everything that gets thrown at us hits harder than it should, harder than it would have, say, 50, 70 years ago.
		And that's what's causing the auroras to be seen so much more often and to such a much greater extent.
		When you look forward and say, okay, what happens if this continues?
		You start to have that, okay, the grids are in trouble.
		Okay, everything electrical is in trouble.
		GPS, internet, water purification, you know, food systems, refrigeration, 911, heating, air conditioning, everything like that is at risk as this situation moves forward.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I actually, I mean, I remember this.
		I think most of the people watching probably do.
		Over the past several years, there's constantly these graphics showing North America.
		And it's like, here's where the aurora will be visible.
		There have been several instances in the past couple of years.
		What do you say, five times in two years?
		Yes.
		I remember these.
		And I remember like the last one before this, we're in West Virginia, and we were just at the line where you could see it on the horizon.
		And I was like, oh, man, I wish we were in Chicago or New York.
		We would have been able to see it.
		Now it went way past us.
		Unfortunately for us, we had clouds, so I didn't see anything.
		But people were posting all these crazy pictures.
		Never in my life until now has something like this been happening.
		Even when what's crazy is I went to Alaska, I think it was two years ago now, and I was in Fairbanks with my wife and we saw the regular old Aurora Borealis.
		And it's not like the photos.
		It's relatively faint and you can sort of see the lines in the sky.
		And I was like, hey, look at that.
		And that disappears in a minute.
		These photos that we're seeing, the whole sky is pink.
		Like even when you look at the photos of a regular aurora, you can see like waves.
		This is the whole sky being pink.
		Is that a specific kind of aurora?
		What is that?
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		So the color is actually a dead giveaway.
		It is not just that they're being seen more often.
		It's not just that they're being seen at a broader extent than they should be.
		And it's not just that the sun isn't throwing anything terrible at us.
		It's just our planet is weak.
		It's that the colors tell us how much energy is coming in and how deeply it's penetrating down into the atmosphere.
unidentified		Wow.
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		And that's getting worse and worse.
		Normally, it should be mostly green.
		When we get a huge surge, that's when you get the tons of red up high.
		And when there's really deep penetration, that's when you get the pink down even at the bottom as well.
		We're seeing this, again, way more often than we should from solar storms that shouldn't be producing them.
		And again, as a broken record, it's because our planetary magnetic field is on its way down in the ongoing pole shift right now.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so do you think, I showed your tweet where you said if the red line doesn't go down, the Earth ends tonight or something like that.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Do you think, what would you give the probability of, actually, let me start here.
		That was a G4 storm.
		It's been reported.
		Is a G5 storm a guarantee of our grid going down?
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		No, it's not.
		We probably would have had a G5 storm if the final impact last night hadn't hit with literally the most perfect magnetism.
		But it's interesting, the way the magnetic field within these solar storms can be, if it's pointed one way, it wants to bounce off Earth's protection and Earth is safer.
		Another one, another direction of the magnetic field, it wants to pierce.
		It wants to penetrate and really impact our field more.
		The final one, which actually was the biggest one of all last night, actually had the perfectly safe magnetism, or else we probably would have had a G5 storm last night.
		And then it would have been a 50-50 chance of grids going down.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But grids going down in this scenario, it's recoverable.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It just means we got to fix them, right?
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		Probably.
		So let's say last night's impact had been the bad magnetism and it had been maybe 50% stronger.
		I would be concerned that it's a total grid down situation and we're back in the Stone Age.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So you're saying like everything on the planet, wouldn't it just be one side of the planet?
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		No, because it's actually an induction throughout the whole thing.
		When you see the auroras, you know, you can't see around the whole planet, but it's actually a ring that's going all the way around.
		And it is that actual ring of energy going around the planet that causes the electric currents to surge through the lower atmosphere and the crust.
		And it is actually worst on the dusk to midnight quadrant.
		Nobody really knows why, but it is a whole earth thing.
		And it's actually worse from dusk to the midnight quadrant of the planet.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Can you explain why, you know, if this storm hits, why would it put us in the stone age?
		Why would the grid go down?
		Why would electronics not work?
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
		So what this actually is, is this is an enormous injection of electromagnetic energy from the sun that hits us in a very short impulsive impact.
		This is the exact same way that an EMP works, even though the mechanism is different.
		In a high-altitude nuclear explosion, for example, the X-rays send an electron cascade that overcharges everything and blows circuits, things like that.
		In a solar storm, that energy hits the planet as a whole and causes electric currents to start moving around inside of it.
unidentified		Wow.
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		And those electric currents, if strong enough, can cause things to go out of sync.
		They can cause circuits to explode.
		They can cause overcharging.
		They can cause arcing.
		A number of problems can occur during these electrical issues.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
		Is it ever really explained?
		You know, people just say like in movies, like an EMP, and then all of a car doesn't work anymore.
		So what's basically happening is like if you have a computer, there's electrons flow through the circuit boards and power from the power source, but when it gets hit by the solar storm, it's like that energy is going into all those wires and cables.
		Is that what's happening?
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		Exactly.
		And, you know, obviously, if your laptop, for example, were to get hit by a bolt of lightning, it's not going to work anymore.
		But you also should know that something a little less than a bolt of lightning electrically would also destroy the circuits, the motherboard, things like that.
		That's what we're talking about here.
		It's not like there's going to be bolts of lightning going through everything.
		It's that subtle to not so subtle electric currents that aren't in this arc lightning mode start surging through everything at ground level.
		And unfortunately, us and our technology are here at ground level.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Will a Faraday cage save my devices?
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		Maybe.
		It is if it is a, if it's the kind of thing where we just cross the line and grids are going down, maybe it will.
		I don't know how you're going to use them after the batteries run out because you won't have any power for them.
		But if it's like a Titanic super flare from the sun, which we know the sun does, then no, even a Faraday cage wouldn't stop anything.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Okay, but hold on.
		What if I build a Faraday cage?
		Inside of that is a smaller Faraday cage.
		And inside of that is an even smaller one.
		I put my phone in that.
		Then maybe?
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
unidentified		Sure.
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		Why not?
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		Why not?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We're finding answers here, brother.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		Once you get to three Faraday cages, you have the protection of Jesus for all electronic devices inside.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The building that we're in here is this big steel structure and phones don't work inside.
		So we're in a MIDI Faraday or an accidental Faraday cage as it is.
		But I know people who have dug holes, they put stuff in a microwave and then they put it in the hole and then they cover it with like heavy metal or something because they're like, it's for when the big one hits.
		I'm not entirely sure that's going to do it for you, but hey, people are trying, right?
		And then you make a good point.
		How are you going to charge it anyway?
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		If there is stuff that, you know, you have batteries or you do want to protect, I recommend plastic or rubber, actually.
		Current isn't going to jump past the plastic and the rubber.
		And it's really what you're trying to do is you're trying to avoid the global scale electric currents from jumping to you or to your electronics.
		You put them in a plastic box.
		It's like water.
		You know, obviously we know water erodes, but if water, if a wave is coming at a rock, it's going to go around it.
		And electricity does the same thing.
		This is why we coat all of our electrical wires in plastic.
		Electricity and water are lazy.
		They don't want to work to go where they're going.
		They just want to go the nice, easiest path.
		You put whatever you have in a plastic or something rubber, the electricity is not going to jump to it.
		It wants to go around it.
		It doesn't want any problems.
		It doesn't want to have to do any work.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Interesting.
		You know, so we see these, it's like two days of this massive aurora that has kind of, you know, a lot of people are like, why am I seeing a pink sky right now in Illinois or whatever?
		You've been talking about how we're facing a pole shift.
		It's going to keep getting worse.
		What's going on and what's your timeline?
		Do you think in our lifetimes we're going to see some kind of catastrophic event?
unidentified		I would be surprised if we didn't.
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		I had put our chances of seeing such a catastrophic event because of this pole shift at only around 25% during this sunspot cycle.
		Sunspot cycles are 11 years long.
		We are at the peak of one right now.
		It's going to go down in about five years and then come back up in five more.
		In about it, maybe a little less than a decade, we're going to be seeing the next peak of solar activity.
		That's when I'm worried because Earth's magnetic field is steadily doing this.
		And while it's enough for us to see the signs, and it was enough for me six, seven years ago to say, hey, guys, when the sun wakes up, we're going to be seeing signs every time it throws something at us.
		I still think we're going to make it through, but it's going to be blatantly obvious that something's not right.
		That is where we are right now.
		And my forecast for 10 years from now hasn't changed.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We definitely desperately need it.
		The internet is frying people's brains, social media.
		Let's get back to farming, taking care of animals, living simple lives.
		I'm half kidding.
		The death and destruction from the big one will be, I mean, do you think about this stuff?
		Obviously, you're tracking solar weather and the pole shift stuff.
		But have you actually sat down and gone over how many people would die if the power went out?
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		Yes, absolutely.
		I think that it's the U.S. government's analysis from about a decade ago is not terrible.
		They said within about six months, 90% of humans would be gone.
		Whoa.
		I think that that's pretty accurate.
		And it's because of our reliance on heat in cool places.
		We require technology and electricity to purify water and to distribute water to homes.
		Agriculture, the refrigeration of food, transportation, information, the internet, nuclear plants.
		What happens when all the cooling at every nuclear plant in the world fails?
		That's what we're looking at right here.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So 90% in six months.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And this was if a pole shift happens, or is this the big solar flare?
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		This is if the sun cooks the grids.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There was some documentary about, I forgot what it was called.
		It was a series in the 2000s.
		Life After Human, something I think it was called.
		One of the theories was that house cats take over the planet because they reproduce like crazy and they hunt for fun.
		So they start decimating and wiping out animals nearby and then reproduce like crazy.
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		You know, that's the first time I've heard of that, but just right off the bat, that sounds perfectly plausible.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I knew somebody who once, his mom would put out a big bag of food for cats because there was like one or two cats.
		And then within like six months, there were like 30 cats.
		And then a year later, there were like hundreds of them.
		Just kept feeding them.
		So you're not just talking about the big solar flare, the pole shift.
		With the pole shift comes what, like an axis shifting the planet moves or what?
unidentified		I think that there's a lot of evidence for that.
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		That's one of the crazier things to wrap one's head around.
		But when you review the evidence that convinced Einstein, when you review some of the government documents, and when you just think about the mammoths, you and I have had this conversation, I think.
		Think about the mammoths they found frozen in 20, 30 feet of ice up there, the Arctic, with food undigested in their mouths and stomachs.
		And the question is, how did they freeze so quickly?
		I think the better question is, what were they eating?
		Because they were frozen in the glacial cycle, which means if they had to dig them out of 20 to 30 feet of ice today, how much ice was there then?
		There was no vegetation.
		They weren't eating anything.
		They had to have been at low latitude and then the planet put them at the poles to freeze instantly or else they wouldn't have been there.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is that is the is the ice that digging them out of is that salt water or is that freshwater?
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		There's not a ton of salt in that water, I don't think.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right, that's why I asked.
		Because then the question is, where does that water come from?
		How do they get buried in it?
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		Well, during the pole shift, there should probably be a phenomenal amount of evaporation and precipitation across the world.
		One of these events is probably what happened during the NOAA event.
		And so something like, I mean, is it going to be exactly 40 days and 40 nights of rain?
		I don't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		But something like that and at high latitude, snow, not just 40 days and nights of rain, but snow as well.
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		I think that could accumulate to something pretty fantastic.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What's the official explanation for why these mammoths have undigested plant matter in their guts?
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		There isn't one.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It makes no sense.
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		Scientists have tried to recreate it.
		They even tried doing things that they couldn't recreate.
		They did a computer model of what happens if you took the mammoth and you ejected it into the frozen vacuum of space.
		The mouth food would freeze, but in the stomach, it wouldn't freeze fast enough.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So this was—so wait, wait.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is a much faster freeze than even the void of space or absolute zero?
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		That is one possible interpretation.
		So here's something else.
		And this is where we could go off the rails.
		If you want to get into it, you can look up something called plasma cooling.
		You know, plasma charged particles, they can heat stuff up, but they can also cool things down very rapidly, almost like a freeze gun.
		It's not out of the question.
		Whether human technology could get there, I don't know.
		But in space and when we're talking about the power of the planet and the sun and this kind of event, we could be looking at something that could instantly freeze everything within a plasma field.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So I do want to stress this too.
		I can't stand these movies.
		Like the Guardians of the Galaxy did this twice, where first Star Lord goes, he gets ejected into space and starts freezing and ice is forming on your body.
		Does not happen.
		Does not happen.
		You actually boil because the vacuum boiling temperature, I think, is 63 degrees Fahrenheit for the human body.
		And the gases closer to the surface of your body will boil.
		And you do freeze.
		You do freeze, though.
		But it's through the heat loss is through radiation, not through standard convection.
		So actually, that makes sense that a mammoth in space is not going to freeze nearly as quickly as if it was chucked into a block of ice or at the poles or something.
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		Right, right.
		I would agree, especially since while it is very cold up there, obviously, without a lot of molecule-to-molecule interaction, there's nothing to wick the heat away.
		You know, the heat has to be carried away by something.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So, what's the I think the first time you came on our show, you mentioned Indonesian glaciers, and I was like, what?
		And we pulled it up, and there's gigantic glaciers in the mountains of Indonesia.
		And what's the official explanation for that?
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		Well, the official explanation is not terrible, that they're leftovers from the glacial cycle, which ended about 12,000 years ago.
		And, you know, Indonesia is not the only place in the tropics.
		Africa's got tropical glaciers, and South America has tropical glaciers as well.
		Wow.
		They are remnants of the last one.
		The reason why this is important, however, is because it really seeks to address the issues of how old ice is on this planet.
		So, for example, they once thought that the Tibetan ice caps, you know, in the Himalayas had to be over half a million years old.
		They just went and looked again with a different kind of isotope and said maximum age possible is only 17,000 years.
		Now, to go from older than half a million to it's got to be younger than 17,000, it really tells us that what they have told us about the history of our planet and how quickly things occur, how dramatically they occur, and the extent.
		I'm not sure that they've come anywhere close to it because this planet has seen not just the slow crawl of wind and water and geology and precession, but those periods punctuated with events of rapid, rapid cataclysmic change.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So I'm not a, I don't believe in chemtrails or anything like that, but there are some people asking in relation to this, could it be the government doing nanoparticles and chemtrails because the magnetosphere is weakening?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They're trying to put particles in there to try and do something.
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		That's been my biggest hypothesis as to why they would do it.
		Now, the pushback I get is, what are you saying, Ben?
		Are you a fan of them then?
		Do you like the people who are doing it?
		And I'm like, no, no, no, no.
		They just want to be at the top of the pyramid for as long as humanly possible until this all collapses.
		There's even a lot of evidence to suggest they're not ready for it yet.
		They're sort of, it's almost like they've been caught off guard.
		It's why Clown World exists right now, where before you basically had to be listening to Alex Jones 25 years ago to have a damn clue what was going on.
		Now everything is so obvious.
		They're going at light speed.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Have you tracked the renovations at Mount Weather?
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		No, I haven't.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But you know what Mount Weather is?
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		For those that aren't familiar, you've got Raven Rock and Mount Weather, the publicly known deep underground bases for government officials to escape to in the event of a major disaster.
		And a few years ago, they announced major renovations at Mount Weather.
		I think if you know about it, it's not the real one.
		So they exist and they probably are known about because members of Congress aren't that high up on the food chain in terms of government power.
		But I have to wonder about the real dumbs, they call them deep underground military bases.
		We know that billionaires have been building mountain bases in New Zealand.
		And you got Zuckerberg in Hawaii with his Wagyu farm.
		There are a lot of powerful, wealthy people.
		Building mountain bases.
		What do you think the government is doing?
		Then the question becomes, whether or not the government is doing it or not, whatever, fine.
		But the renovations at Mount Weather, as well as the millionaires and billionaires building underground bunkers, what's the reason for it?
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		So in the acknowledged underground areas, just the acknowledged ones in the United States, they could fit about 10 to 20 million people.
		Wow.
		Who knows how many people they could actually fit down there?
		Now, here's something.
		There's a lot of people in power who I think have bad intentions and are not good people.
		I don't think you can put that blanket on everybody who manages to get into politics or in a place of power.
		And in fact, some of them do wear white hats, in my opinion.
		And a lot of them believe in karma, like genuinely in their hearts, believe in karma.
		There are plans to try to save as many human beings as possible.
		There are plans to have a continuity of government after this.
		And there are aspirations to have the United States of Earth after this.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, I got to be honest.
		If I was asked, in hypothetical situations, someone comes to me and says the big storm is going to hit in 10 years, between 10 and 20 years.
		You have unlimited resources, whatever the humans can provide.
		What are you going to do?
		I think the reality is you can't save everybody.
		And it's not evil to be like, we have to choose, you know, make a list of who we want to save.
		That's just a reality of surviving a cataclysm.
		So, you know, if it is building deep underground bunkers, diverting resources, the honest question is, can you blame powerful people for trying to salvage as many humans as possible?
		Or would you just be mad it wasn't you?
		Or like, what do you do?
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		So, you know, there's this is where the biggest difference is between a lot of thinking.
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		There's what is optimal and what is pragmatically possible.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		Optimally, you wouldn't put those decisions in the hands of humans.
		Optimally, you would be able to save everybody.
		At the end of the day, if it's going to get done, the decision's coming down to somebody.
		And somebody's going to have to be responsible for making sure the plan works and all this other things.
		And as much as we don't like it, that's the way you described it is exactly how you'd have to do it.
		I mean, it's easy to watch the movie 2012 and be mad at the fat government guy.
		He's the only intelligent person in the entire movie, right?
		He's the only one who says anything that makes any sense, the entire movie.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is the sad reality of humans.
		Even in our movies, the depiction is when you're the callous government official saying, close the gate now, you're the bad guy.
		But the reality is, I watch these films and I'm like, what would you do?
		Would you have humanity be wiped out?
		Or would you save 20 million and say we can't let everybody in?
		And then, of course, in the movie, what is it?
		Like the people break in and there's a disaster or whatever.
		Because that's those are the, those are the protagonists.
		Those are the heroes.
		They're supposed to break into the, you know, I got to be honest.
		It may be a strange thing to say, but I'll put it like this.
		I would hope in the event of a major cataclysm, the ark or whatever they build has room for me and my family.
		I would also not be surprised to find out they don't, nor would I blame someone for not saving my, doing me the favor.
		It's just a reality of what can be accomplished.
		Now, of course, in our media and games, the government is always depicted as evil for doing this because they're going to be like, only the smartest get to survive.
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		Ha ha ha.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And everyone else must perish.
		And I'm like, be pragmatic, be practical.
		Do you save everybody or do you save only those who can carry their own weight?
		So your timeline was what, like 10 years for the big storm?
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think we got about 10 years for the big storm and the timeline for when the actual pull shift completes should be 20 to 25 years.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So what should the average person do?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Final question.
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		For right now, don't do anything too stupid or crazy.
		You need to be able to survive and be carrying your own weight in this world right now.
		You can't be finding yourself homeless.
		You can't be finding yourself without a source of income.
		You can't be finding yourself getting, you know, in trouble with the law and stuff like that.
		Be aware that this is coming and start thinking about or acquiring books about how people used to live, about, you know, survival skills.
		Start thinking about getting some extra food, extra seeds, things like that.
		If you live in the United States and you don't have a gun, what are you even doing at this point?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		Stuff like that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right on.
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		The basics for now.
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		The basics.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Where can people find you to follow for more?
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		The YouTube channel is SpaceWeather News.
		It's got that logo right there.
		Shouldn't be too hard to find.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right on.
		I really do appreciate you joining us today to talk about this.
		And we'll have you on soon.
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		It's always great to see you, Tim.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Likewise, take care.
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		Bye.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Ben Davidson, of course, he's been tracking all of this stuff.
		And, you know, what's funny is there's a lot of people that try to attack him as pseudoscience or whatever.
		And I'm like, actually, the things he's talking about when it comes to the coronal mass ejection, solar storms, they're all happening.
		You can see it.
		We literally saw the auroras.
		He's not making up that stuff's happening.
		Whether or not his interpretations are correct is fine, but this is actual science.
		There are going to be a lot of people in the mainstream that are saying, nah, nah, I ignore all that.
		Nothing's happening.
		It's fine.
		And they reject it.
		But it'd be silly to reject it.
		It's fine to say, I'm going to give it less probability.
		I'm going to weigh it less.
		It's not going to be the centerpiece of my focus, but ignore it at your own peril.
		These things are possible, albeit rare.
		But sometimes, sometimes you win the lottery.
		Sometimes you go to Vegas and you put down 15 bucks on 26.
		And what happens?
		It hits.
		And you're like, what were the chances of that?
		Well, 1 in 37 for the most part.
		That's one of those really awful casinos where they have triple zero.
		Can you believe it?
		The point is this.
		Rare as it may be, we know these things do happen.
		So why act like it's impossible?
		Don't base your whole life on it.
		Don't do stupid things.
		Live your life.
		But pay attention.
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