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tate brown
Holding it down for the great Tim Pool.
He's out sick today.
Unfortunately, he's down for the count.
So I had to jump in the captain's chair here.
Hold it down for you guys to give you guys some content here for this lovely, lovely Tuesday.
It's Tuesday, right?
I got Proofster Josh hanging out.
We got a little swap in.
So Josh is hanging out.
So we got, you know, we'll see how this goes.
I think we're in good shape here.
But let's see.
With that, we have some huge news today.
UC Berkeley, berserkly, it's back.
We had a new battle of Berkeley.
Now, you know, it didn't have the same magic as the, you know, 2016, 2017 Berkeley brawls, but it was, it was crazy.
It was some insanity.
It really felt like a throwback to Trump 1.0 in a lot of ways.
Just total insanity.
The left is obviously just completely out of control.
And it's just another great example of why we need to crack down on these people.
We're losing the moment.
I'm really starting to get frustrated.
I feel like we're losing the moment to really break these people.
Anyway, we'll get into all that later.
Also, we have Trump.
And you know me.
I'm a Trump shill, basically.
I'm a huge Trump guy, huge Trump fan.
I got to say, his interview with Laurie Ingram last night wasn't great.
Wasn't great.
That was a low moment.
Has me a little worried.
I'm a plan truster.
I think he'll be fine.
I think, and I'm letting him cook.
He has good instincts.
He also kind of just A-B tests a lot of ideas.
So, you know, unfortunately, these are just some bad ideas, but we'll get into that as well.
We do have some great, great news is the BBC is getting sued for a billion dollars by the Trump Trump team.
And it's over this editing, the way they edited this documentary.
It's absolute insanity.
I want to show you guys that.
And if we have some time, we'll get into a few more stories.
We have the shutdown winding down.
Actually, we'll probably lead with that.
We'll lead with the shutdown, potentially winding down.
Shows you how crazy the news cycle is right now that there's literally the longest shutdown in history and it's back page news.
And we also have a story of a firefighter being deported.
Does that sound right?
No?
Okay.
Yeah, because there's a little more to it.
That's just how the media operates.
So with that, let's get into our stories.
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With that, let's get into the news.
First, let's get into the shutdown, right?
Looks like the shutdown's ending.
Great stuff.
This is fantastic.
The shutdown is coming to an end.
I know a lot of people are like, really, are really enjoying the shutdown.
And you know what?
Fair enough.
I mean, like the government's shafted so many of us over the last 50, 60 years that I understand the impulse to just like let it all burn.
Totally get it.
But, you know, looking from a political science point of view, like it wasn't playing well for the Republicans.
Not playing great for the Democrats either, but the Republicans, we really needed this to come to a close.
But that was contingent on us not conceding any ground.
And that appears to be what's happening here.
So the U.S. Senate, this is from Reuters.
The U.S. Senate is passing a bill to end the government shutdown and sends it to the House.
This is actually kind of a dub.
This is kind of a dub.
So I'm going to read here.
The U.S. Senate on Monday approved a compromise that would end the longest government shutdown in U.S. history, breaking a weeks-long stalemate that has disrupted food benefits for a million, left hundreds of thousands of federal workers unpaid, and snarled air traffic.
That's a good word there.
Snarled.
I like that.
The 60-40 vote passed with the support of nearly all the chamber's Republicans and eight Democrats who unsuccessfully sought to tie government funding to health subsidies that are due to expire at the end of the year.
While the agreement sets up a December vote on these subsidies, which benefit 24 million Americans, it does not guarantee they will continue.
That is what the dub is, because that is what the holdup was over.
And they managed to get eight Democrats to break ranks here to join with the majority to end the shutdown to provide some funding.
Now, this isn't a total business as usual sort of arrangement here.
I'll keep reading.
The deal would restore funding for federal agencies that lawmakers allowed to expire on October 1st and would stall President Donald Trump's campaign to downsize the federal workforce, preventing any layoffs until January 30th.
It heads to the Republican-controlled House of Representatives where Speaker Mike Johnson has said he would like to pass it as soon as Wednesday and send it on to Trump to sign into law.
Trump has called the deal to reopen the government.
Quote, very good.
The deal would extend funding through January 30th, leaving the federal government for now on a path to keep adding about $1.8 trillion a year to its $338 trillion in debt.
Again, not really a surprise here.
So, yeah, this is pretty funny.
Dick Durbin, obviously, he was one that crossed the aisle here.
Quote, we wish we could do more.
The government shutting down seemed to be an opportunity to lead us to better policy.
It didn't work.
So look, a lot of these guys are flaking.
A lot of them we expected to flake from the Democrats like Cortez Mastro and these figures.
But yeah, they broke and they left behind their push to extend these health care subsidies, which the Republicans have pointed out provides a lot of health care benefits for illegal immigrants, which is absolutely ridiculous that the Democrats are willing to shut down the entire government over this.
Also, the one consolation, I suppose, or maybe the compromise that the Republicans extended was this should reverse a lot of the federal layoffs that have occurred.
Unfortunately, I'm hoping that a lot of these RIFs in the Treasury Department will be permanent because that is a lot of IRS agents.
So we will have to see there as this continues to develop.
Obviously, going to go to the House.
The House is going to poke around with it a little bit.
And then Trump still, obviously Trump still has the power to sort of sign off or not to sign off.
So we're going to see how that goes.
But it looks like, yeah, it's going to come to a wind down.
Again, it might be temporary, but we'll have to see.
Now, SNAP will be funded through September, the next September.
So even if the government shuts down again at the new year, SNAP will be funded.
I know we've been discussing it a lot here at Timcast, but SNAP would be funded through the next year by then.
There'll be a new CR and everything.
So I doubt that that will really be sort of a contention.
But yeah, clearly a lot of Democrats, their constituents, a lot of them are on Snap and they were not happy.
And they said, I don't care about illegals, their healthcare.
Gave me my food back.
I want my Cheetos back.
I want my Oreos back.
Enough.
So that's exactly what they gave them.
Now, with that, we will go to our next story.
And this was the interview that everyone is talking about.
And yeah, it wasn't the best.
It wasn't the best.
So I get the clip here from Mediite.
Fox's Laura Ingram confronts Trump on 50-year mortgage plan.
Is that really a good idea?
Now, I don't know if you've seen the news.
I believe Tim covered this.
Obviously, Trump floated this plan yesterday over sort of creating a 50-year mortgage option, which, you know, as right-wingers, I think instinctually, a lot of us are just opposed to anything involving banking.
Now, you do have to do business with banks.
Like, this is just how the economy works, unfortunately.
Like, you know, you do need mortgages and loans and these sorts of things, but a 50-year mortgage is crazy.
That is absolute insanity.
It seems to be driven primarily by Pulte.
He's like the director of federal housing.
He's a longtime Trump backer, very wealthy guy.
But obviously, his portfolio is pretty reliant on construction, home construction, and real estate at large.
So, you know, again, I'm not saying I'm sure he has some really good reasons.
There are some good arguments for the 50-year mortgage, but I'm just saying there's invested interest in getting this across the line.
First, we'll see.
Watch the interview, and then we'll get into this a little more.
laura ingraham
They're still out of reach.
And another thing that your administration is trying to tackle, many Americans, the average age of first-time homebuyers are now up to age 40, which is sad.
unidentified
The country you and I. You have to understand.
laura ingraham
Right, but let me get to the question, though, because your housing director has proposed something that has enraged your MAGA friends, which is this 50-year mortgage idea.
So a significant MAGA backlash, calling it a giveaway to the banks and simply prolonging the time it would take for Americans to own a home outright.
Is that really a good idea?
donald j trump
It's not even a big deal.
I mean, you know, you go from 40 to 50 years, and what it means is you pay something less.
From 30, some people had a 40, and then now they have a 50.
All it means is you pay less per month.
You pay it over a longer period of time.
It's not like a big factor.
It might help a little bit.
But the problem was that Biden did this.
He increased the interest rates.
And I have a lousy Fed person who's going to be gone in a few months, fortunately.
I have a guy too late, you know, Jerome Powell.
We call him too late.
He was too late in everything, except when it came to before the, you know, the Democrat, so-called Democrat election, which didn't work.
But we're going to get interest rates down.
But even with interest rates up, the economy is the strongest it's ever been.
You know, you asked me, just to go back to the beginning of your question, you talked about.
tate brown
So yeah, he goes on to talk about the economy and the economic numbers, which, yeah, there's some good indicators.
But yeah, this is kind of the thing with Trump.
So a lot of people are using this to really go after Trump himself.
Look, at this point, like this is kind of how Trump operates.
He's a degree removed from the base on a lot of these issues, and he has a lot of people around him that are pushing for these sorts of things.
I've always maintained the position.
I don't know who actually sort of coined or pioneered this sort of idea surrounding Trump's communication style.
But Trump has this tendency to sort of take the line of the last person he spoke to before he gets in front of a camera.
So probably the last person he talked to before interacting with the press Monday was Pulte, and he was like, this is fantastic.
This is some great stuff.
We should double down on this.
And so he's sticking with his guns here.
But I mean, look, I guess fair play to Laura Ingram kind of pushing a little bit on this.
But yeah, this is really just really, really bad, bad stuff.
And this was the pitch.
Sorry.
I don't know what's going on.
I need like a, I need a recola or something.
I don't know what the deal is.
But this was the pitch that Trump's team put out in Drew Social.
Again, I don't think Trump, I assume he's not really on board with this.
Great American presidents, FDR.
He's comparing himself to FDR.
That's like, this would actually be like something a Democrat would put out to like slam the 50-year mortgage idea.
Yeah, because the new deal has worked out so wonderfully for the United States because FDRs is great, fantastic.
You know, nothing went wrong with his reforms.
So I don't know, this is the pitch.
Like, if I knew nothing about, you know, real estate or mortgages or anything like this, and you just showed me this picture, I would be like, okay, this is probably a bad idea.
If FDR is involved in any way, it's probably a bad idea.
So I don't really know what his team was thinking about here.
So this is obviously the pitch is they're saying, well, look, this is going to make it easier for young people to buy a home because of the lower monthly payments, which is like, yeah, because you're spacing it out an extra two decades.
So obviously the payments are going to be a bit lower.
But again, I'm preaching to the choir here.
You guys all know these things.
But look, when you extend a mortgage an extra two decades, let's just even say at a 30-year, let's say you're buying a house for $400,000 at like 6% interest.
That's probably a fair 30-year mortgage, 6% interest.
That would be like, what, like $900,000?
You'd be paying $900,000 roughly, I believe, over 30 years.
And then actually at an extra 20 years, you're looking at like $1.2 million.
Like this is just, yes, your payments are lower, but at 50 years, you're not even really building any equity in your first couple of years, really, your first decade of paying.
You're just paying the interest.
So it's like, yeah, your payments are a little lower, but in the long run, you're just adding more debt to people's lives.
Americans already take on a lot of debt.
A lot of people are debt slaves, really.
Their entire purpose of living is just to keep paying down debt.
So it's just really not a good idea.
It also insulates, you know, the market from bad decision making.
I mean, obviously we can go back to the financial crisis in the 2000s where a lot of people that couldn't afford homes were able to grab those homes because of these mortgages.
And this is just a really, really bad idea.
This is just a very, very bad idea for a variety of reasons.
Yeah.
So with that, this is what this reminded me of.
A 50-year mortgage for a home.
Because like, sure, you could, yeah, if you're if it's easier for young people, because it's like they shouldn't be able to afford it.
They can't afford it.
That's why they're having to spread it out so much.
It reminded me of this.
There's this guy.
I think he's in Houston.
And this kind of epitomizes American life and in 2025, the debt slave, as I talked about.
There's this guy in Houston who's just like scalping locals.
I'm just going to play a reel here that he put up.
unidentified
Hey, got the Sioda Camry 2020 with the red interior.
Miss Nee, how much did you put down?
Zero down.
How much was your monthly payment?
$599.
For how long?
$427.
tate brown
So she's paying $600 for like, what is, that's like 30 years for a Camry.
What is, you know what?
Let me just, let me get the calculator out real quick.
Calculator.
What is this like 600 times?
That would be.
No, I need to do three a month.
So 12 times 30 times, what was she paying?
400 a month?
So she's paying, if my numbers are correct here, she's paying $144,000 for a Toyota Camry.
Now we laugh, but this is like America.
This is just America in 2025.
And now we have these 50-year mortgage rates.
You're going to buy a house like, you know, in a neighborhood.
And then like 20 years into your 50-year mortgage, there's just going to be like a, like, it's going to fall apart.
Neighborhood, they're going to move a bunch of Haitians in, and then you're just stuck.
Your equity like falls to the roof, but you're already like it's it's so over, it's so over.
We are cooked, we are cooked.
We are turning into a Toyota Camry society where we're into a society of Toyota Camrys.
Um, bro, is collecting souls.
Well, yeah, it looks like these, you know, these uh real estate uh these banks are going to be collecting souls in these mortgages.
I mean, this is really insane, insane stuff.
Now, a lot of people are like pumping their chests here.
They're they're hyped up.
They're saying, Oh, well, look, the homeownership rate's gone up since the advent of like 30-year mortgages and these sorts of things.
Again, you're like, I'm not, I'm no Dave Ramsey, you know, um, I'll be upfront about that.
Uh, yes, housing rates or homeownership rates have gone up incrementally since the 1970s, but um, that's among boomers.
So, this article was shared with me.
Baby boomers are still the largest share of home buyers.
Like, when would have baby boomers been entering the housing market like 1970, right?
I think right about 1970 is when you really would have seen boomers emerging as like the preeminent home buyers.
They're still buying homes, and the average boomer is like 70.
Like, what are we doing here?
I mean, maybe I'm just allergic to terrible ideas, and that's why I keep coughing because this is really some grim stuff.
Uh, yeah, this is really the chart.
This is my friend Nathan Halberstad made this chart.
He should have watermarked it because I've seen it everywhere, and no one knows that he made it.
But he's a great guy, great patriot.
Unfortunately, he had some bad news to disclose, which is the estimated percentage of 30-year-olds who are both married and homeowners has tanked, tanked since the 1950s.
Now, you may be saying, Oh, well, the more the marriage rate's really going to tank it.
Maybe the homeownership hasn't.
Yeah, but this is something that was like, again, taken for granted.
I mean, 1950, it was over half the population.
This was something that was easy.
This was easy.
This is the majority of people would accomplish this.
And now it's like a miracle if you can pull this off.
So, between this, 50-year mortgages, I mean, oh my gosh, people are just going to be getting rinsed in the market.
I mean, it's going to be insane.
Oh, my, oh, my days.
Yeah, with that, look, the interview went on.
Again, again, I'm not really holding like Trump needs to nip this in the butt.
Obviously, he's buck stops with him, but there's a lot of people.
He probably isn't thinking about mortgages that much, to be completely honest.
And yeah, Pulti or someone else has came to him and said, Hey, this could potentially allow more young people to buy homes because, I mean, you know, you're seeing headlines like this.
Oh, baby boomers regain top spot, et cetera, et cetera.
So he's like, Okay, yeah, that makes sense.
50-year mortgage.
That way, you know, then they the monthly payments lower so they can get in.
Sure, sure.
But there's so many long-term problems with 50-year mortgages.
The debt slaving obviously is the main, the main issue.
With that, again, it's tough to hold Trump to that entirely, but the buck stops with him.
I'm going to stop running full defense here.
Really don't like the idea.
I'll just say that.
Really don't like the idea.
There's probably some people in the audience that are like, no, it's a good idea.
You're in the minority because you're seeing on Twitter right now.
Scott Greer pointed this out actually on a show.
A lot of people that are fanatically defensive of Trump.
I mean, I think I fall into that category probably.
We're at first trying to trot out a line defending, like, this is great.
Like, young people are going to buy homes.
And then, as soon as people that are like well-meaning, so not even like leftists or never trumpers, like well-meaning Trump supporters were like, yeah, but won't that just like wipe out your equity?
Like, you'll never actually be able to gain equity.
You know, the interest rate will grind your home price up while who knows what's going to happen in the neighborhood, these sorts of things.
It traps you in a huge arrangement.
They, you know, deployed all these arguments that you would expect to hear.
And a lot of these people just like were like, yeah, that's a good point.
Like, usually they like have something ready to rock, but there's like, yeah, that's a good point.
So with that, we got to keep, we got to get moving along.
It's already 1220.
I've been just talking about mortgages this whole time.
Here is another bit from the interview.
laura ingraham
Somebody's talking about people saying they're anxious about the economy.
Why are they saying that?
donald j trump
I don't know that they are saying.
I think polls are fake.
We have the greatest economy we've ever had.
We will have over $20 trillion come into our economy.
And it's largely because of my election, but it's also largely because of tariffs.
tate brown
So, yeah, again, this is like, I don't know if this is the right messaging.
I really don't know if it's the right messaging to people that are clearly upset.
Granted, he's doing the, which I don't think is actually going to happen, but he's going to try it as the tariff.
What's the word I'm looking for?
Where he's going to send a checkout, basically, a tariff dividend.
He was sent out like a tariff dividend check where basically everyone would get like two grand.
And he would say, well, this is courtesy of the tariffs.
I don't think that'll happen, but I can at least see why that's the play because it's like you can basically just bribe people for the midterms to vote for you.
That's per I'm okay with that.
I was saying Logan Hall was on the show last week.
Me and him are making the argument.
It's like, hey, you need to create these remittances networks for patriots.
You need to create, yeah, you need to create these pipelines of cash and opportunities and whatever to Americans.
That would be really nice to be prioritized for once.
So I'm actually okay with that.
A lot of people are dunking on that.
But one more portion of the interview here.
This is the part that really I think personally I was more concerned with because again, the mortgages, who knows?
It may or may not happen.
The tariffs, checks, whatever.
This one freaks me out because this is happening and this is not good.
laura ingraham
Folks are not thrilled about this idea of hundreds of thousands of foreign students in the United States.
We have about 350,000 Chinese.
One point during COVID, you were going to, you know, push to get them out, but that was pulled back.
You've said as many as 600,000 Chinese students could come to the United States.
Why, sir, is that a pro-MAGA position when so many American kids want to go to school and there are places not for them and these universities are getting rich off Chinese money?
donald j trump
Sure.
Never said about China, but we do have a lot of people coming in from China.
We always have China and other countries.
We also have a massive system of colleges and universities.
And if we were to cut that in half, which perhaps makes some people happy, you would have half the colleges in the United States go out of business.
Well, I think it's a big deal.
laura ingraham
Are they fancy?
donald j trump
You would have the United States.
Yeah, but you would have, as you know, historically, black colleges and universities would all be out of business.
You would have a system of what?
unidentified
No, no.
tate brown
Oh, I knocked over my take-ass cube because this is so dense.
Like, what are we doing?
What are we, Democrats?
Like, what are we doing here?
I'm trying to keep it together.
I love Trump.
I'm a Trump glazer.
I've been supporting him since he came down the escalator and I will still continue to support with him.
I'm riding the ship to the bottom.
There's no question about it.
That is awful, dude.
She's like, yo, isn't it a good thing if like half these universities close down because they're ripping us off?
And he's like, yeah, but what about the black colleges?
Like, what?
That's the ones I want to go away.
That's like good.
Oh, my gosh.
So this is just a total disaster.
CIS has done some extensive research.
I'm just going to point you to this because I don't have time to read through all of it.
But Center for Immigration Studies, fantastic organization.
They did a whole write-up on why you shouldn't be basically battery farming Chinese spies into your universities.
It's just a terrible idea for a variety of reasons.
And we were good.
During COVID, we were good.
Trump was on it.
Proclamation on the suspension of entry of anonymity.
It was banning Chinese spies from coming into the country and studying at our universities.
A terrible, terrible idea.
And then turn it to now.
What are we doing?
What are we doing?
We need Chinese spies at your university so the black colleges don't go out of business.
unidentified
What?
tate brown
Like, what are we doing?
Oh, my gosh.
So, anyway, I got to cool down.
I got to cool down.
No, let him go to it.
If you're, if you're entirely, this has been, look, this has been, This has been the mandate of MAGA from day one: is if a business, if an institution cannot survive solely on America, it shouldn't exist.
If your enterprise is dependent on something coming in from overseas, it shouldn't exist.
Make America great again.
We need America to be prioritized and everything.
So, if a university cannot exist without Chinese students, that's a university that shouldn't exist.
That's a university that should be out of business and their faculty should be flipping burgers.
And honestly, most professors in this country can't even do that.
So, I don't know what they're going to be doing.
Good thing snaps back.
So, maybe they can get a sandwich or something.
But, with that, oh my gosh, sorry, sorry, that just made me mad.
A little patriot crash out moment.
But, um, with that, we're gonna get we have time to get to our next story.
We do have Tyler, uh, Tyler Boyer joining us for the uh, for the interview portion.
That's gonna be sick.
He's gonna break down the UC Berkeley stuff for us.
Gonna be great, great.
I love Tyler, he's fantastic.
Uh, let's see if I can squeeze this last story from the New York Times.
Trump threatens to sue the BBC for $1 billion after January 6th documentary.
Uh, President Trump on Monday, this is based.
I love Trump.
This is fantastic.
This is great.
President Trump on Monday threatened to sue the BBC for $1 billion over a documentary that his lawyer claimed included malicious and disparaging edits to a speech Mr. Trump delivered on January 6th, 2021.
And that's absolutely correct.
This is some of the dirtiest, slimiest tactics I've ever seen from a journal or from a publication in general.
This is like exactly what Trump is talking about.
This is exactly what Trump is talking about when he's talking about these fake news press.
Just it's just ridiculous.
So, let's see if I got the sound pump in here.
Check this out.
This is the BBC edit on the left and then the original clip on the right.
donald j trump
We're going to walk down to the Capitol and I'll be there with you.
And we fight.
We fight like hell.
We're going to walk down to the Capitol and we're going to cheer on.
unidentified
Right.
tate brown
See that?
unidentified
Brave senators and Congress.
tate brown
So they cut it to the Capitol.
So you see here.
And we fight.
donald j trump
To the Capitol.
tate brown
Walking on the Capitol.
donald j trump
And I'll be there with you.
tate brown
And we cut it right there.
And we fight.
We fight like hell.
They cut it right here.
donald j trump
And we're going to cheer on.
tate brown
So they, this is like 50 minutes into the speech.
It's where Trump said we're going to fight, fight like hell.
He's just talking about like in general because it's like what we do as patriots.
We fight.
And they cut it.
So they cut right after we're going to go into the Capitol where he says, and cheer on our congressmen.
The BBC cuts it, grabs a clip from 50 minutes later in the interview, sandwiches it together.
So it sounds like Trump is making a direct call for violence.
This is absolutely insane.
And this is the kind of rhetoric that got a lot of people thrown in jail for no reason.
This is what this is what got Trump investigated.
This kind of ridiculous false reporting.
Just absolute insanity.
So yeah, a billion.
I mean, it sounds like they're letting him off the hook a little bit for a billion dollars.
I mean, people should be like investigated for this.
This is absolutely insane.
Again, look, great case here.
The BBC, obviously, as soon as this came out, so the Telegraph had actually passed around a letter from the BBC that was, I think, was leaked that was talking about this edit that was made.
And then immediately, obviously, BBC fires, the head of the BBC, Tim Davey, chief executive of BBC News, Deborah Turness, resigned on Sunday after growing pressure.
So, I mean, look, fired, resigned, whatever you want to call it.
Whatever you want to call it, they're gone.
They're out.
They're out.
The BBC said on its website that it had received a letter threatening legal action and that would respond in due course.
The documentary called Trump A Second Chance and broadcast before the presidential election last year had already been removed from the BBC's online player.
So this is this is a this look, this is a form of election interference.
This is not condoned.
I'm not accusing anybody, certainly not accusing any Democrats.
I mean, because I think that would get you in trouble.
But how is releasing a doctored video where you're it looks like the president's calling for people to raid the Capitol and playing that right before an election?
And then we're supposed to play dumb, like, oh, you know, this just happens.
No, you're getting sued.
Sorry, you're getting sued.
Time to lawyer up.
That's absolutely, absolutely insane.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
A billion dollars.
It's the least they can do.
Absolutely ridiculous.
So, anyway, I got pretty fired up.
And we're going to get even more fired up because we're going to go into our interview portion.
Yeah, Tyler's.
unidentified
Okay.
tate brown
Thank you guys very much for watching.
We're going to get set up for our interview here with Tyler Boyer of TPUSA.
He's fantastic.
First, from Fox News, Bloody Brawl breaks out as agitators.
Oh, wait, you know what?
Before that, we have an ad.
We have an ad.
Ad.
Let me think how to do this.
Hang on.
This is how we do it.
unidentified
Okay.
tate brown
I'm going to read the article.
Then we'll do the ad, then we'll bring in Tyler.
unidentified
All right.
tate brown
Sounds good, everyone.
Everyone, Kapish.
unidentified
All right.
tate brown
From Fox News, Bloody Brawl breaks out as agitators protest TP USA event at UC Berkeley in California.
Clash erupts ahead of a Turning Point USA event.
A bloody fight broke out near the University of California, Berkeley on Monday afternoon ahead of a Turning Point USA event on campus.
The event, which featured Dr. Frank Turek and Rob Schneider, marked the end of the This Is the Turning Point tour.
It took place just two months after TPUSA's founder Charlie Kirk was assassinated at a campus event in Utah on September 10th.
And I'm just going to play some clips from the insanity going on there.
As you can see here, this is via Savannah Hernandez.
Punch and fadge calls for violence, obviously.
We have some more action here.
This was some arrests being made following.
I think it's just following the brawl.
following the brawl so yeah there's just a lot of you know a lot of you know kumbaya going on there and berkeley again Again, this is vintage Berkeley.
This was them antagonizing the attendees for the event.
Obviously, all the officers there with right gear.
unidentified
This is from Roy Ventura.
tate brown
Just like, just absolute insanity, absolute insanity.
It's total carnage.
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tate brown
All right.
Well, I am here with Tyler Boyer.
Tyler, hey, how's it going, man?
tyler bowyer
Hey, how are you doing?
tate brown
Doing good, man.
How about you?
tyler bowyer
We're doing good.
We're hanging in there.
tate brown
Yeah.
So, obviously, we were seeing the videos, everything beforehand.
The situation in Berkeley, I mean, it's a bit of a throwback.
I mean, a lot of things people forgot berserkly.
That's what it had the reputation of being back in the day.
Turning point returned.
That was the end of y'all's tour.
Obviously, you head to Berkeley.
Surely you had to be anticipating a little bit of this sort of carnage, right?
tyler bowyer
Yeah, I mean, it's actually really interesting because this is one of the first places that we kind of opened up a lot of campus activity on.
We went right into the belly of the beast about a decade ago, a little more than a decade ago.
I was privileged to be in charge of our entire field operation at the time, and we were really opening up a lot of the West.
And it just, ever since the very beginning, it's been nothing but crazy at Berkeley.
So kicking us off campus.
A lot of people don't realize this, but that was one of the first places that we had ever done a real tour stop for Charlie in the early, early days.
So we're very familiar with the Berkeley campus, but it's always been very insane, trying to shut down conservatives, trying to dehumanize conservatives every time that we show up.
And that's been the name of the game for Antifa and all the radicals that are there.
tate brown
Yeah.
So, I mean, I guess to start, how did the event go?
I mean, the event obviously was on campus.
Most of this carnage was off campus.
So did the event go forward as normally?
I mean, how was that?
tyler bowyer
Yeah, and actually, a lot of it was right there on campus.
And we've seen this time and time again.
But yeah, there was you've seen the videos.
We've watched the videos.
It was insane.
I mean, there were literally hundreds and hundreds of radicalized protesters that were outside Antifa.
It's actually really funny because yesterday I was on with a reporter who was arguing with me about the existence of Antifa.
She was trying to allege to me.
This was a reporter actually in a more conservative state, believe it or not, that Antifa isn't real and doesn't exist.
And yesterday we saw the congregation of Antifa activists acting like terrorists that had gotten together.
They were very prepared.
They were very organized.
They had bullhorns, shouting and screaming in people's faces.
There was actually reports, you know, direct reports from first-person sources here.
So this isn't like I'm pulling it off the internet or from third parties.
First person that they were throwing glass at people.
They were throwing like actually things that were shattering and blowing up and shards of glass everywhere, which was left behind and everywhere.
There were activists, Antifa activists that were spitting on people directly, right?
And they're while they were waiting in line to get in.
And we're talking about, you know, pretty calm, normal, you know, regular people showing up for this thing, bringing their kids and waiting outside sometimes for hours until the school will actually let them in.
And essentially what they had to do was start letting people in, but they had an abundance of police resources outside, which they had to do because of how violent and aggressive the Antifa activists were outside.
tate brown
I mean, yeah, we were looking at some of the videos from y'all's frontlines coverage with Savannah.
And it's just insane.
Like, because like you said, I mean, these are people that are just here for an event.
I mean, it's Rob Schneider, Frank Turik, like people love him.
People know him.
Turning point, obviously.
And the response is just like militant.
What is the relationship like in Berkeley with the local authorities?
I mean, in the local officials, I mean, it seems like this keeps happening, obviously.
What has been your experience with them compared to maybe like red states, red governments, that sort of thing?
tyler bowyer
Yeah, no, it's actually a really interesting question.
And by the way, I just want to shout out Savannah and how good and great of a job she does.
I know she's been on quite a bit.
She's an incredible talent.
The entire team at Frontlines is incredible.
They really go into the belly of the beast everywhere we go.
But yeah, it's actually a really interesting conversation because you have a couple of different layers here that the public isn't really talking too much about.
First, you have the blue cities versus red cities issue.
In general, and I want to be very clear about this.
Most of the police are on our side.
And even the bluest, the bluest cities, you have a dramatic number of police that are conservative, that are fans, that are supportive of what we do.
And so they're happy to be there.
There's obviously always a fraction of police that are probably pretty annoyed about the danger that's presented mainly by the other side that shows up to these things and causes tense situations or violent situations like we saw last night in Berkeley.
And so obviously in a city like Berkeley, you're not attracting the most conservative police, I would say.
I would say there are some people that enjoy the drama that probably exists around Berkeley's campus.
But the most important part about the police is that they're always doing their job.
They've always been, and everywhere that we've gone, and I can say this over the years, the decade plus that I've done this, is that we've always had a great response.
And I think it's only increased over the number of years that they've, I think, police have embraced the fact that this is coming from one side.
tate brown
Yeah.
tyler bowyer
That started realizing, oh my gosh, like we have to defend, you know, essentially the ideology that they support, which is a more conservative one, because of how crazy and radical the country's getting under the guise of BLM or the various factions that have been created out of the Soros regimes.
It's really important to focus on, though, this topic of campus police versus normal municipal police.
Campus police is a totally different ballgame.
And this has come up actually in kind of light of the murder of Charlie, is that campus police sometimes are a different animal to deal with than your normal, regular municipal police.
And so, again, I don't want to speak directly to the UVU situation or even Berkeley last night with some of these because, again, there's a lot of police departments on campus that are just trying their best with what they've been given.
But most of these, these departments have to report to the administration rather than to the infrastructure that's normally funded and ran by taxpayers within a municipality.
So that's a big deal.
And that's actually a real problem when you talk about safety and public safety because when police are answering to the university system and what their end goals are, sometimes bad results happen.
And again, I don't want to point directly to Charlie's murder on that, but there are some things that could have been done and should have been done to prevent his assassination that I think that a larger police department would be able to handle.
Now, given that fact, sometimes there's police departments that are smaller in the city where the university is, and the university actually has a bigger police presence than the rest of the city.
But those are all things that need to be looked at and talked about and debated.
And, you know, there should be some introspection, especially following Charlie's death.
Yeah.
Especially when you look at last night, you know, Blue City, you know, relatively small city, big college campus, you know, is safety priority number one.
tate brown
Yeah, I mean, I've spot checked Berkeley as like if you look at the New York Times as the precinct voting map and you can like check and see how many people in each precinct voted for what.
And if you spot check Berkeley, it's actually something wild to do at home.
Almost all there's a good chunk of the precincts that the Green Party receive more votes than Trump.
So you guys really went into the belly of the beast here.
Obviously, you know, you talked about the relationship with the campus police, municipal police.
What about the locals?
I mean, I imagine you guys probably weren't able to get out and about that much, but was the response from the locals as hostile as, you know, obviously probably not anything close to Antifa, but was there a degree of hostility with the locals?
tyler bowyer
Yeah, I mean, the most severely leftist college campus, you know, just to kind of give everybody an idea, the most severe leftist areas are pretty radicalized, you know, with the folk.
It's actually hard to comprehend for a lot of people that go into these places.
So Berkeley is a good example of one.
UC Boulder, University of Colorado Boulder, or CU Boulder.
I'm sorry, not UC Boulder.
CU Boulder is another good example of that.
UW Madison is a really good example of that.
I've walked the streets of most of these places when we've done events.
And even just last year, again, I'll kind of point to Madison.
You walk around some of these communities and you're kind of expecting just people to be a little bit more normal, a little bit more common sense.
It's actually bizarre how prepared the community is to be anti whatever's going on, if that makes sense.
It's almost like the community rallies behind and creates the animosity that is basically okayed for like an Antifa violent situation to happen.
I think that that's really the story when you see all these crazy things happen.
We saw it in Minneapolis.
We've seen it in Philadelphia.
We've seen it in Portland.
You saw what happened last night in Berkeley.
A lot of that is on the shoulders of the community.
I mean, that is the reason why it exists is because they feel like they have the ability to go out and be harassing in that way.
I mean, like I said, we were just there last year in Madison with Charlie walking the streets right before a football game.
So you're within the college area, but I mean, Madison is largely engulfed in University of Wisconsin culture.
And this is the same with Berkeley.
You walk around that place.
I mean, especially with someone with credibility like Charlie had, I mean, people were shouting at him like more violently than I've ever seen before.
People get in your face and kind of almost start pushing you and start screaming in your face and telling you to go home or get out of their state or do whatever.
Right.
And those are just things that you just don't see in more conservative areas ever.
Like you just don't have that.
So, I think a lot of people have no clue that this is happening in some of these really deep, blue, violent cities where violence is being stoked and it's really not being taken care of because I don't think the police really know what to do with it.
I don't know.
I don't think they have any idea of how to prevent it other than, you know, this is just how things operate here is kind of like the feedback that we've gotten.
This is just how it works here.
Yeah.
tate brown
Yeah.
I mean, I imagine you guys probably like you're talking about the community, local community organizing, right?
Anticipating y'all's arrival.
There had to be some foresight that there was going to be some carnage, right?
I mean, especially in Berkeley.
And I mean, we've seen obviously, you know, the people with effigies of Charlie's, you know, these really horrible effigies of Charlie and the taunting and these sorts of things.
I mean, that lead up had to be, you know, pretty intense.
tyler bowyer
Yeah, I mean, there was actually flyers being posted all around Berkeley on and off campus.
We found these off campus as well that said Berkeley in the fascist turning point youth-oriented campaign of incitement of violence.
So this is how backwards it is.
This is how, you know, you study this in school.
Like we, everybody goes through that, the Fahrenheit 451, you know, thought prevention type stuff.
The syllabus that all of us have gone through in elementary or junior high and high school.
And you see it happening in real time at Berkeley where they're calling our side violent while actually committing violence on campus.
It's the most insane backwards thing that you've ever seen.
But this kind of explains how they prepare it, right?
Because obviously this is something that's been prepared.
I mean, this for days leading up to this, if not weeks, they were posting these flyers.
These were all around campus.
And, you know, we're not there.
We're not all over the city.
So you don't see them until you're actually there and people start reporting it and tweeting about it and things like that.
But, you know, how they could call turning point violent after the murder of Charlie when there has been not a single case of this anywhere and they're actually burning things down.
And, you know, again, you mentioned lighting effigies on fire outside of events, screaming at people with bullhorns in their face as like these sweet moms with their daughters and kids are walking in.
It's unlike anything anyone ever can really comprehend in America.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
Well, I mean, there's something to be said about that, which is, you know, there's all these people on the right that are, you know, like we're these based fringe radicals or whatever, and they're hosting these events or whatever, but nothing really agitates the left like Turning Point USA.
And I think if you drill down on that, the reason is because you guys are the effective ones.
You're the ones that are stepping into the mainstream, occupying the mainstream and like reorienting.
I mean, that was Charlie's legacy is he stepped in and he changed the game.
And I think that specifically is what animates the leftists so much more than, you know, all these people that are doing whatever, no shade, obviously, but there's something about turning point specifically that just infuriates these leftists.
I don't know.
Maybe you could drill down on what you've seen, why that might be the case.
tyler bowyer
No, I mean, yeah, I appreciate that.
I mean, I think it's effectivity, right?
I mean, at the end of the day, the left has always kind of, especially since the Obama era, has dominated this idea of being able to organize events and get people excited and do things.
And they've really struggled with that over the course of the last five plus years where they just haven't had excitement.
So, you can't find it really anywhere.
I mean, during the 2020 race, we saw this.
I think this is what kind of lit fire alarms off for them was that nobody was showing up to their stuff organically.
And this is prior to COVID.
And then, you know, you go into COVID, and we know all the reasons why many believe they really leaned into that and utilized that for their own political benefits.
But there hasn't been anyone that's been able to really harness that.
And I think they came off of this high of Obama having the capacity of doing that to now they're really struggling to consolidate around voices and people.
And that's the one thing about Charlie that Charlie was able to do as a personality and then transfuse that into an organization and make an organization that we've been, you know, I've been blessed to be part of.
And our group has been working diligently at.
But that's been part of the effort, which is that it can't just be a person.
It has to be, it has to be people.
It has to be community that you build.
And once they see you do that, they start getting very nervous because it's like, well, you know, Charlie's gone, Charlie's been assassinated, you know, but they can't assassinate a million small versions of Charlie all over the country, which is what we're seeing.
And this, and this is like to your point, is like, you know, when you talk about mainstream, we, we, we, and this is not unique or new.
I've been with Charlie's, you know, for the last 11 years plus years, and we have been attacked from both sides.
unidentified
Yeah.
tyler bowyer
We've felt like we've had people attacking us.
And the weirdest part is that sometimes it feels like it's simultaneous, where the harder the left is going at us, the harder it's like fringe elements of the right feel like they have gone at us.
And, you know, people trying to just like get cheap shots and things like that.
We've seen that all throughout the last decade.
And you're seeing a little bit of that now, where there's people like trying to really attack.
I mean, we've seen this with pretty sick attacks on us and Erica and so many.
And not to bring that in, but I think part of that's the element of when you see some of those left-wing, insane things happening like we saw last night, you also get elements.
And actually, that's what's pretty much the catalyst to reaffirm that we're pretty much in the mainstream, pretty much the middle of the road when it comes to how things are going in America and at least where the conservative movement is.
And again, those things actually make the left more nervous because they start going, oh, wow, that's really, that really is the middle of the road for conservative thought.
And they're actually attracting more people.
And that's what we've tried to do.
tate brown
Yeah.
I mean, that's exactly right.
And that's, I think that's what infuriates a lot of these more fringe elements you're talking about.
And it certainly infuriates leftists is that you guys are just able, you're so effective as an organization.
And again, like as a testament to Charlie, but the whole organization as a whole, is that you're just single-handedly able to move the Overton window.
I mean, that's just incredible stuff.
And yeah, that's got to be petrifying if you're a leftist, especially watching you guys roll up to Berkeley right into the belly of the beast.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
That probably keeps them up at night.
tyler bowyer
There's two elements to that.
It's like we haven't really feared going into those places.
And again, I'm not trying to disparage any other elements of the conservative movement, but the conservative movement in the recent history, you know, kind of prior to the Trump era, was very scared to go into the belly of the beast.
They were very scared to fight the battles on the front lines.
And that's just, that's not a way to win a war.
Like you have to go to the front lines.
You have to send your best soldiers to the front.
You have to send your most emphatic, most patriotic, most passionate people to lead the charge.
I mean, that's like the George Washingtonian model, which is like you've got to have a leader up front.
And if you're not doing that on the front lines, where the battle is actually, the lines are drawn, then you're not going to be able to win because they're going to keep taking, and you're going to keep seeding ground.
They're going to keep taking ground, and you're going to have to have alternative ways to win that war.
And the truth of the matter is the conservative movement just wasn't doing that.
And part of the reason why I believe where we are today, where we're actually being able to win some battles, is because we actually took up those fights on the front lines.
And, you know, that's why we call our division front lines that SAV runs and they do such a good job is because we want to be at those places so America could actually see this.
Imagine a world in which nobody actually saw any of this content.
tate brown
Right.
tyler bowyer
And honestly, if we weren't there reporting on it and recording it, nobody would have this.
It's not like the mainstream outlets that are even on our side are showing up to this stuff.
Like this, it's too dangerous.
It's not interesting enough in a lot of cases for them.
So they don't.
tate brown
Yeah.
I mean, that's what's so refreshing about this is it feels like there's this affliction or tendency on the right at large where people just say, oh, well, it's California, just whatever, cut it loose.
Oh, it's New York City, whatever, cut it loose.
And I hate that retreatist mentality because it's like, actually, no, Trump won, you know, he won the popular vote.
He won the election.
Like, we're actually kind of entitled to the whole country.
We don't have to just seed ground to these people.
These people are evil, like quite a lot of these people, a lot of these, you know, leftist agitators who are running these streets are evil people.
I mean, they demonstrated it with Charlie and they've demonstrated it in Berkeley.
So that's why I love what you guys are doing because I just don't understand this tendency to just like, oh, just cut it loose.
It's fine.
Let's just retreat.
tyler bowyer
Well, there's more places than just college campuses for this, too.
I mean, this is probably the biggest problem within the conservative movement in general is that the generation, my parents' generation, and again, this isn't an attack on Gen Xers, but Gen Xers weren't hyper politically motivated.
They just, they didn't throughout.
And, you know, this is this is just this is an admitting moment.
Baby boomers were far more political because a lot of them were raised and saw during the 60s and 70s an era, right, that spurred different eras.
You know, you have kind of the hippie situation that is kind of similar to a lot of millennials that like hippies and hipsters share a lot of similarities with environmentalism and anti-war and all this, which is, I think, has kind of turned what we saw like in the early 80s in particular that started that whole yuppie movement through the 90s, 80s and 90s.
You are starting to see a lot of that with our own generation.
You know, history doesn't repeat itself, but it rhymes.
You have a lot of yuppie type mentality that's happening at a millennials now, where you're seeing people actually take on their parents' businesses and actually start families later in life because they got started late.
And they're starting to figure out like, oh, well, some of these things that I was living weren't exactly helping my life.
And now I'm buckled in and focused on that.
And so you have a lot of that that's happening.
And so the conflict that's happening with young people in particular is that they're figuring this out, but it's not just on college campuses now.
Now it's spread to the church culture and the communities that they're moving out to.
So a lot are moving out of the city and even out of the suburbs and some more rural suburban areas or more rural areas.
And they're taking on their businesses or they're moving into gentrified neighborhoods that are taking over the family business that was their dad's or their grandpa's for the last 30 or 40 years.
And so it's a really unique moment, but it's really important for us to capture that and then say, hey, there's other groups that need to show up and show out in a big way to help support a lot of these activists as they start to age.
And I brought up Gen Xers for this reason because a lot of Gen Xers, you know, were kind of this tail end, yuppie, dot-com boom era people that they, you know, their activism was listening to Rush Limbaugh, and that's awesome.
And they listened to it.
But they didn't go out and do something.
And that's, that's the big piece is that you have to actually translate that from listening, you know, kind of taking this on, seeing the problems that are happening around you, and then going out and doing something.
And a lot of as a lot of these Gen Xers are starting to retire at a higher rate, it's really important for them to get involved and do a lot more in the community.
tate brown
Totally.
I mean, yeah, that mindset has really kind of poisoned the conservative movement.
So that's when Trump came in.
He's actually just like doing things.
It's blown the back of people's heads.
They can't believe it.
They're like, wait, well, you can just do that?
It's like, yeah, actually, you can.
If you want to like save America, you got to get hands dirty a little bit.
I was going to ask, I mean, I guess this would be the last question.
We're kind of running out of time here, but the DOJ, they probably had their eye on Berkeley, obviously, with this happening.
Has there been sort of any indication that they're investigating here, that they're taking a look?
Because I mean, for a lot of people that just want to go to see Dr. Frank Turek speak, and then they might have to worry about something like this, that's got to kind of freak them out a little bit.
So I was wondering, you know, what turning point, you know, what their relationship with the DOJ has been like with this specific incident.
tyler bowyer
Yeah, you know, it's actually been really interesting.
I actually feel the call.
I won't say from who, but this morning, early this morning, from someone high up within the administration who was super supportive, that they've got our back, that they're doing more to anticipate some of these problems so that I think that the government can actually step in and be more helpful for the safety and protection of people.
Because I think a lot of people, you know, for us, a lot of times, it's a little bit concerning because we don't really know how bad it's going to be until you show up.
You know, part of us was that we thought that this would actually be a little bit easier in Berkeley this year because mistakenly, because of Charlie's assassination, we thought that they would probably take a softer approach.
We now know that the answer is no.
These crazy people exist and they're going to come at you hard, if not harder than ever before.
And the DOJ, as we know, are currently spending their time investigating these cells of Antifa activism that's happening.
And this is the left's new trick is that they're trying to tell people, just as I mentioned, journalists, everyone else, that Antifa doesn't exist, that it's not a network, that it's just random people showing up at random times.
We know that's not true.
This is, in fact, organized criminal activity that's happening in most cases where they want to harm people.
They want to scare people.
At a minimum, They want to impede people's civil rights.
And that is a huge issue of our time.
And so the DOJ, especially in the civil rights division, Harmony Dylan is fantastic.
She's actually from the Northern California area.
So that's, you know, her team has been very, very much interested in going after the individuals who are involved specifically with this case.
So I think we're going to see some outcomes coming from last night.
But I also think that we're going to see a lot more anticipation on our side over the course of the next three years as we see how the reactive, it'll be less reactive and more proactive that the federal government's going to go in and help protect the citizens that are just kind of just doing normal ordinary citizen stuff.
And that's important.
tate brown
Yeah, totally.
Well, Tyler, thank you so much, dude.
I don't know if you have any closing thoughts and where people can find you, find TPUSA, stuff like that.
tyler bowyer
Yeah, I mean, like I said, there's nothing more important than for people to get involved.
This next year at, we have Turning Point USA that is flying at its highest number.
So you can go to tposa.com slash get involved.
You can go to tposa students.com as well.
If you have a student that you know that wants to get involved, they can sign up to be part of a chapter.
On our activism side, we have Turning Point Action.
So tpaction.com.
Please go there, get signed up.
You can follow us at TPACT underscore on Twitter or anywhere a Turning Point Action exists to get involved, to actually contribute as we have a huge election this next year where the country needs to step up and actually not just sit on our haunches and let the Democrats roll us next year.
We actually need to get out and be more active to push back against a lot of this radical ideology that we're seeing on campus and beyond.
tate brown
Absolutely.
Well, dude, thank you so much, man.
We'll catch you next time.
tyler bowyer
Thanks for having me.
tate brown
Appreciate it.
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All right.
tate brown
See yep.
All right.
Well, that was Tyler.
Man, it's insane.
It's insane.
Like he said, you were kind of anticipating that maybe they would paper back the violence a little bit, considering everything that we've seen.
No, they're doubling down.
These people hate you.
They want to destroy you.
Enough.
I mean, I was saying earlier, sometimes it feels like maybe the window is closing, but it's good to hear that the DOJ is taking a look.
We have to break these people.
Full stop.
End of story.
Enough is enough.
But with that, we are out of time.
So let me see.
We're going to raid Devori Darkens, I believe.
Let's see, make sure he's live.
Devori Darkens.
Yep, here we go.
And I will get us going here.
With that, you can find me, your host, Tate Brown, on X and Instagram at RealTate Brown.
We will be back tonight for Timcast IRL at 8 p.m.
It's going to be a great show.
Come hang out.
And I'm going to get you guys going on the raid.
Let's see.
Confirm raid.
Bang.
So yeah, come give me a follow.
Make sure you go check out TPUSA.
Obviously, and Tyler's fantastic.
He's a great guy, doing excellent, excellent work.
They've been through a lot, but they're still just, you know, full steam ahead.
It's fantastic.
Come hang out.
Come hang out with Timcast IRL.
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