Tim Pool Daily Show - Gangs Order KILL ON SIGHT DHS Agents, Chicago Is A WAR ZONE

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Nov. 10, 2025 - Tim Pool Daily Show

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Gangs Order KILL ON SIGHT DHS Agents, Chicago Is A WAR ZONE

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tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Gangs in Chicago have issued shoot-on-site orders to their members for DHS agents.
		That is, they have been instructed to kill DHS agents.
		We have seen already one breaking story where a shooting happened in Chicago.
		The gunman is at large.
		I never thought it was going to be instantly overnight a battlefield.
		People shooting like crazy.
		It's always gradually and then suddenly, which would mean if we follow particular trends in other countries, we are very, very close to shootings breaking out.
		Now, what we're seeing in Chicago is these people are attacking ICE agents.
		They are using sabotage, improvised devices to disable vehicles, helping illegal immigrants escape vehicles.
		And then, in some of these instances, we actually have a big story over this past weekend of a shooting.
		Not the first time.
		Several months ago, I think it was in California, a man opened fire on DHS agents who were freeing child slaves from a drug farm.
		Not kidding.
		That's where we're at.
		Now, the strange thing is, why isn't this like the biggest story in the country?
		Why is it that when children were being used as slaves to grow marijuana in California, the corporate press acted like it was no big deal?
		Makes you wonder, doesn't it?
		Where we are and where we are going as a country when problems like this escalate.
		And yes, of course, ladies and gentlemen, another article has already emerged suggesting we are in or heading towards a civil war.
		Now, I don't know if that's actually what happens, as I often state.
		Maybe that will be the case, maybe it will not, but in Chicago, it is feeling more and more like a war zone.
		So we're going to get into all of that, my friends, before we do get a great sponsor.
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	Let's get into the news.
	From Yahoo, News Nation, Latin Kings issue order targeting federal agents in Chicago, CBP.
	CBP officials say Latin Kings, street gang leaders have issued a shoot on site order targeting agents involved in Operation Midway Blitz in Chicago.
	Officer agents are reminded to maintain heightened situational awareness and exercise extreme caution when conducting enforcement activities.
	The agency's internal warning said.
	News of the alert comes after shots were reportedly fired at federal agents during an immigration enforcement operation in the city's little village neighborhood on Saturday.
	The Department of Homeland Security says a group of people also threw a paint can and bricks at a Border Patrol vehicle.
	A DHS spokesperson wouldn't comment on the report that Latin Kings are threatening, but added, our law enforcement is now facing an 8,000% increase in death threats against them while they risk their lives every single day to remove the worst of the worst.
	Nearly every day, we have seen violence, assaults, or smears against our officers in Chicago, including yesterday when agents' vehicles were rammed multiple times and shots fired at them.
	Tensions remain high.
	Two months into Operation Midway Blitz, residents who oppose the Trump administration's immigration crackdown have protested and even followed and confronted heavily armed agents.
	Judge Sarah Ellis issued an extensive injunction this week restricting agents' use of force after saying a top Border Patrol official repeatedly lied about threats posed by protesters.
	Well, we've got various videos.
	This one is from Mario Noffels posted this.
	ICE raids in Chicago's little village.
	Bricks, paint cans, and I believe this may be the video where shots were fired.
	Let's play the video.
	Looks like maybe, I don't know if that's tear-guess.
	It might be.
	Sometimes they'll use flashbangs.
	There he goes.
	He's got one.
	You got to be careful with those things for sure.
	So for those who are just listening, this is 26th Street in Chicago.
	CBP and ICE in the street.
	Some kind of crowd control weapons were used.
	People are screaming.
	And this is just one video.
	I do believe we have another video.
	Let me just double check.
	No, maybe not.
	Actually, no, I do have it right here.
	Manhunt underway after federal agents take gunfire as riders ram vehicles and hurl debris in Chicago.
	Let's play this from Fox News.
	Wait.
	Yeah, we've got to do this.
	I have Fox muted.
	Sorry.
unidentified		What are you going to do, Tear Gas?
		You can't use Tear Gas.
		You can't use Tear Gas.
		I'm here for you, sir.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So here we see several Chicago police officers.
		CBP vehicle.
		Looks like, for those who are just listening, we've added this video.
		Police are arresting someone, it seems.
		People are yelling.
		Let him go, they yell.
		that'll work this may be i don't know if this is the video footage we have of the shooting We can see CBP agents are walking down a street, and you can see that there appears to be Chicago police maybe 20 or 30 feet behind them.
		The report is that someone opened fire on CBP agents, and a manhunt is currently underway.
		I don't know what this video is of, but we just see an overhead shot.
		Appears to be a drone flying overhead.
		And looks like that wrapped it up, actually.
		And let's read this and see exactly what's going on with this.
		They say, Amana is underway.
		This, of course, this story is from yesterday evening.
		Federal immigration agents were targeted in four violent attacks Saturday while conducting enforcement operations in Little Village.
		They say that they hurled debris, rammed vehicles.
		According to DHS, agents were boxed into a street and alley while making an arrest when a man driving a black Jeep opened fire and fled.
		As the conversation escalated, agents deployed a flashbang device while crowds threw bricks and paint cans from rooftops.
		Chicago police helped evacuate the area, and while no one was injured, several vehicles were damaged.
		Officials said the violence spread across several city blocks as agents endured four separate attempts to ram their convoy, including near an FBI facility where demonstrators tried to breach the perimeter before police restored order.
		Protesters also blocked streets and threw more objects, prompting agents to use crowd control measures to clear a path.
		Over roughly three hours, agents came under gunfire, were rammed four times, and faced mobs hurling debris.
		Nine people, including eight U.S. citizens and one non-citizen, were arrested on charges ranging from assault to obstruction.
		The department described the assaults as part of a growing dangerous trend of violence and obstruction targeting federal law enforcement.
		Chicago police confirmed no officers or agents were struck by gunfire.
		The attacks quickly drew political reaction from Homeland Security.
		Assistant Secretary Tricia McLaughlin directly blamed Illinois Governor Pritzker and Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson for fostering hostility toward law enforcement and accused the media of spreading false narratives about immigration operations.
		J.B. Pritzker and Brandon Johnson had fueled an environment of lawlessness, an assault on federal law enforcement, McLaughlin said.
		She said agents endured gunfire, violent mobs, and vehicle attacks across Chicago in less than three hours, describing the wave of assaults as unprecedented and the product of anti-police rhetoric.
		Make no mistake, our mission will continue despite the violence, she said.
		To any anti-terrorists in Chicago, you will not stop us.
		You will not slow us down.
		And if you lay a hand on law enforcement, you will face the consequences.
		DHS said it is working with the FBI and Chicago police to find the gunmen and review security protocols for future operations.
		ABC Eyewitness 7 out of Chicago also reporting shots fired at Border Patrol agents during immigration operation in Little Village.
		This is what a war zone looks like.
		I am not saying that it is like a hot war between factions or anything like that.
		This is a conflict zone.
		When you have stories of people throwing objects from rooftops and shooting at law enforcement.
		During the Ferguson riots, this is what the left and liberals do because they're communists, not all, but many of them.
		Lying is the intention.
		During Ferguson, you had one long block called West Florescent, and the riding stretched this, not a block, but it was probably like a quarter mile, half mile maybe, down one strip.
		And the liberal media, the leftists, they all kept saying, St. Louis is fine, Ferguson is fine.
		It's just riding in one small area.
		It always is riding in one small area.
		The revolution in Egypt, which I bring up ad nauseum, was just one city square, Tahrir, and a few thousand people toppled the government.
		That's it.
		It was about 3,000 people, they estimate.
		Not that many.
		In Ferguson, when I was there, all of these liberals kept trying to defend BLM by saying nothing's really happening.
		Just one block.
		The city's fine.
		You can go anywhere.
		And that's always been the case.
		We now see people like Harry Sisson saying, I'm in Chicago, everything's fine.
		Or no, I'm sorry, he was in New York.
		Pritzker walked around Chicago, pretending like it was a war zone, and he went to a calm, peaceful area.
		Could you imagine someone going to Syria during the Civil War and going to Damascus, where it's largely fine, and being like, nothing wrong here, there's no war.
		That's right.
		As the saying goes, my friends, there is no war in Basing Se.
		Now we have this from the Washington Post.
		Armed ICE officers chase teachers into preschool in Chicago.
		Oh no.
		AOC, we need help.
	The incident appears to be one of the first during Trump's second administration in which immigration officers entered school grounds.
	Heavens me, what happened?
	Immigration officers arrested a teacher early Wednesday in Chicago after chasing her into the grounds of a private preschool and grabbing her as parents and students looked on.
	According to a local official, witnesses and video footage of the incident.
	Several parents said they were waiting to drop off their children around 7 a.m. at Raito del Sol, de Sol, Desol, a Spanish immersion daycare and school, when they saw armed officers in black vests, the word police ICE, run behind the woman and into the lobby of the building.
	Witnesses and school employees told the Washington Post that they had thought the school was under attack and scrambled into rooms and vehicles outside in search of safety.
	The agents dragged the woman outside as she yelled, tango papeles, or I have papers.
	The arrest appears to be one of the first instances during Trump's second administration in which immigration officers entered school grounds to make an arrest.
	During the Biden Obama administration, schools were considered sensitive locations.
	But the Trump admin eliminated those policies in January.
	DHS spokeswoman Tricia McLaughlin disputed the woman who was arrested inside the school, saying she was detained in a vestibule.
	The outer doors to the school are open to the public, but enter through a second set of double doors.
	Staff must buzz in, parents and faculty after verifying their identity.
	Bystander video of the arrest shows agents in both the lobby area and farther inside the school.
	Immigration officers generally are allowed to enter, blah, blah, blah.
	Quote, if they can do this in a daycare where children are, where will they not go? said Chicago Alderman Matt Martin, who represents the Northside community where the preschool is located.
	Witnesses said the teacher was followed by a dark-colored SUV as she rode to school in the passage side of a sedan.
	According to DHS officials, according to DHS officers attempted to stop to pull the vehicle over with sirens and emergency lights, but the driver did not stop.
	The agency said the driver sped into a shopping plaza where he and the female passenger fled the vehicle and then ran into the school.
	I am sick of these evil people.
	These evil people.
	They would flee law enforcement, knowing they're criminals, and then put children at risk to do it.
	And we're supposed to be mad at the cops for trying to stop them.
	These people are evil.
	Let me make sure this is very, very clear.
	For all the people who are listening, law enforcement were asked by a Democratic vote.
	We voted for Trump.
	We put these laws in place and they've been in place for decades.
	8 USC 1325.
	These men were told, this is the law.
	This is what we want done.
	Will you please do it?
	And they said, yes.
	This man and this woman know they are violating the democratic will of the people and endangering children.
	And the media wants us to feel bad for the criminals who put children's lives at risk.
	That's where we're at.
	Upon arrest, she lied about her identity, McLaughlin said.
	DHS later identified the woman arrested as Deanna Santiana Galiano of Colombia, who officials said crossed the border in 23 and last month paid smugglers to bring her two teenagers, teenage children across.
	She is a child trafficker and a human smuggler, and she should face the greatest penalty under the law.
	She's paying them to smuggle children.
	Okay?
	Now they're teenagers.
	I get it.
	Don't care.
	Don't care.
	The trafficking stops when we hold these people to account.
	This woman is evil.
	School officials showed agents the teacher's employment documents, including a work permit, Martin said, but agents nonetheless detained her.
	She's a wonderful person, a mother, an excellent community member, and a valued and treasured member of the Raito community.
	Now, here's the funny thing.
	She crossed the border in 2023.
	She paid smugglers to bring in her kids, according to DHS.
	Why run?
	She says, Tengo Pepelez.
	Is that how you say it?
	She has papers.
	Why'd you run?
	You get pulled over, you say, how's it going?
	I got pulled over.
	That's actually a true story.
	I got pulled over Saturday.
	I wasn't driving.
	Got pulled over.
	Cop walked up.
	ID.
	I kid you not.
	Ran the ID, walked back, and said, have a good day.
	That was it.
	End of story.
	That's it.
	Honestly, I don't know why they pulled us over, but that's it.
	Handed him the have a nice day.
	And walked away, and we left.
	That's it.
	Why would we run?
	I don't understand this.
	You know, it's funny because the left tries to play this game where it's like, sometimes the cops are evil.
	And even if you have nothing to hide, they'll come for you.
	And I'm like, we got pulled over and we didn't know why.
	Howdy.
	Cop took driver's ID, said, I'll be right back.
	Came back, handed the idea back, and said, have a good day.
	That's it.
	They've been doing a lot of sobriety checks out this way in West Virginia.
	Maybe something to do with that, I guess.
	I don't know.
	Nothing happened.
	I think the whole interaction took about a minute.
	Why run?
	Now, to be honest, just because you run doesn't mean you're guilty of something.
	Except maybe fleeing, you know, you're supposed to be stopped if a cop is stopping you.
	So they're guilty of at least that.
	Why did she try to flee into a building?
	What did you think was going to happen?
	If they let her in the building, the cops are going to surround the building.
	This woman is evil.
	And I believe even if she has papers, deport.
	I'm going to tell you why.
	You get pulled over, you say, howdy, officer, what can I do for you?
	You don't run into a school because now those children are at risk.
	And you did that.
	I don't think a person like that should be welcome in this country.
	And her visa can and should be revoked if she has one.
	They say we have absolutely no idea why she was targeted.
	Martin said one armed agent stayed inside after the arrest, walked around the facility room, room to room, and questioned several adults.
	No one reported seeing a warrant.
	They just make that up.
	They just make it up.
	One teacher who spoke to the Post said that after she heard the commotion, she ran outside of the parking lot and hid in a colleague's car with a three-year-old student for more than half an hour.
	Gaddarzi said she dropped off her child moments after the teacher was taken away and stumbled upon a chaotic scene and walked into a room of crying kids, crying parents, and crying teachers, she said.
	It was traumatizing.
	In a note to parents Wednesday afternoon, Raju de Soul's leadership said that the teacher was detained when arriving at work and that it appeared immigration and customs enforcement agents had entered the location despite signage indicating it is a private business and despite not presenting any judicial warrant.
	Judicial award is something they made up.
	It's like a made-up thing.
	Immigration, as I often point out, is under the purview of the executive branch.
	And we went through this with Joe Biden during his administration when Texas was sending illegal immigrants into the country and said, deport them.
	They said, we can't.
	It is under the purview of the executive branch.
	The executive branch deals with foreign affairs.
	So citizens of foreign countries are the issue of the executive branch.
	So they have executive immigration courts.
	You do not go to the American judiciary for these matters.
	That is not how the system is set up.
	They are doing this to trick stupid people who won't ask the question.
	Because the reality is they have warrants from immigration courts.
	Judicial warrant they made up.
	A judicial warrant?
	Indeed.
	A private business is still a public accommodation.
	And even McDonald's, for instance, cops can go inside the McDonald's.
	You have to allow people to come and go, even if it's a private business.
	They're making all this stuff up.
	These people are evil.
	No child should ever be terrorized in their school, said Rep Mike Quigley.
	Agreed, this woman who rented at school should be deported.
	It's a violation of public trust.
	Rep Delia C. Ramirez suggests working with the daycare to release surveillance footage from inside the school that showed that McLaughlin's public statement about DJ's actions are false.
	She said the footage she reviewed shows the agents went in and questioned another teacher.
	It also shows armed masked men going into four classrooms as adults and children run through the hallways.
	DHS has issued a statement.
	How do you people sleep at night after lying all day to the American people?
	ICE law enforcement did not target a daycare and were only at this location because the female illegal alien fled inside.
	Officers attempted to conduct a traffic stop of this female illegal alien from Columbia.
	Officers attempted to pull over the vehicle, which was registered to a female illegal alien with sirens and emergency lights, but the male driver refused to pull the vehicle over.
	Law enforcement pursued the vehicle before the assailant sped into a shopping plaza where he and the female fled the vehicle.
	They ran into a daycare and attempted to barricade themselves inside the daycare, recklessly endangering the children inside.
	The illegal alien female was arrested inside a vestibule, not in the school upon arrest.
	She lied about her identity.
	The vehicle is registered to, is registered to in her name, though she claims that she didn't know the man who was driving the car and just picked him up from a bus stop.
	She's lying.
	Facts include criminality and information on the male assailant are forthcoming, and we will update the public with more information as soon as it becomes available.
	Now, perhaps the woman was a teacher.
	Maybe.
	But the issue that we're dealing with right now is media framing, lies, manipulations, and more importantly, criminal aliens.
	Criminal, illegal aliens who would endanger children should not be in this country.
	So, oh boy, we've got this one from The Guardian.
	It's four months old, but I think it's worth pointing out.
	Ten charged with attempted murder after allegedly ambushing Texas ICE agents.
	It's not the first time.
	It won't be the last.
	And that's where we're currently at.
	Rollcall.com.
	Are we at the beginning of the next civil war?
	Hey, don't look at me, guys.
	You know, people make these memes of me saying civil war when all I'm doing is reading the news.
	Someone's writing up these stories, and they write up a whole lot of them from various organizations and experts.
	The narrative won't stop.
	Now, I wonder.
	We may be looking at revolution, not civil war.
	That's always been one of the options.
	Depends on if anyone's willing to fight back against those who seek to gain control.
unidentified		Roll Call says, I was wrong.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		For years, despite all the partisan infighting, I've been very dismissive of the idea that our country would become entangled in another Civil War.
		But unfortunately, we might be in the early stages of one.
		One of the main reasons why I couldn't imagine internecine conflict is because states are more politically diverse than just a collection of solid red and solid blue on an electoral college map.
		For example, our Republicans love to criticize California as a Democratic hellscape.
		More people voted for Donald Trump in the Golden State, more than 6 million, than in a dozen smallest states where the president finished out of Kamala Harris combined.
		Where would Trump voters in California go to fight in a civil war, L.A. or Oregon?
		I just love.
		I'm just, guys, I quit.
		I'm leaving.
		See you later.
		No, I'm kidding.
		Listen, this guy, brother, roll call, Nathan Gonzalez.
		I implore you to read like an elevator pitch summary of the American Civil War, like literally three sentences.
		I'm not trying to be a dick, okay?
		But you, sir, you're a straw on the camel's back.
		He said, six million people in California voted Republican.
		You know why that's really frustrating?
		Because when the first seven states seceded from the Union in 80, I think actually might have been 1860, not even 1861.
		Actually, I think it was 1860.
		Because it was before Lincoln actually got in.
		It was right after that, right after he won the election, but inauguration wasn't until March.
		Virginia voted against secession two to one.
		Two to one.
		And then when Lincoln amassed troops to quell the rebellion in the South, it inverted.
		These states were always divided.
		Brother, did you ever look up why there is a West Virginia?
		When Virginia decided to join the side of the Confederacy, portions of Virginia were unhappy.
		When the troops were called, conscripted to come fight for the Confederacy in the area now known as West Virginia.
		They voted to secede from their own state and join the Union as a separate state.
		And one of the names they entertained was Kanawha, in fact, the state of Kanawha.
		They went with West Virginia, Best Virginia, as we call it, joined the Union.
		After the war was over, Virginia sued, saying that's not a different state.
		That's still Virginia.
		The point is this.
unidentified		When he says, where would they even go?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like all of the states, there was sentiment across the board.
		Maryland was a slave state in the Union, occupied and under control.
		He says, diversity and nuance are reasons why I should be more open-minded about a modern civil war.
		I apparently needed to remind myself that Americans in the North and South were not uniform in their views during the 1860s.
		That's the point.
		I'm glad you pointed it out.
		I'm sure there were people in each region that didn't agree with the majority view on slavery or states' rights.
		In fact, they voted against secession in four states.
		And then after Lincoln said we send in the troops, they switched.
		Then Lincoln said, we can't let Maryland do that.
		So he arrested about a third of the Maryland state legislature so they could not vote to secede.
		Because that would have like basically ended the war, to be honest.
		He says, the potential for war is not far-fetched, a far-fetched concept pushed by Trump critics.
		The president embraces the terminology, et cetera, et cetera.
		He says, regardless of whether a civil war is upon us, Trump's actions are in the news, in the public spotlight.
		So how it will play politically, the answer is not well, at least so far.
		58% of adults oppose Trump deploying the National Guard to cities.
		I don't think that really matters, to be completely honest.
		He says, while the current actions could fall under the president's broad crime fighting mission, using military, specifically the National Guard, to police street crime should be in a different category.
		He's not.
		That's not what he's doing.
		Whether you agree with the tactics or not, mobilize the National Guard against U.S. citizens engaged in potentially unlawful activity is different from deploying federal agents to detain non-citizens who are in the country illegally.
		The deployment was to protect federal buildings.
		Some Republicans will also say that it's not a war because there's no fighting.
		In their words, it's simply an attempt to keep the peace and protect federal workers and facilities.
		But we've already seen patrolling National Guard members in D.C. venture away from federal buildings and guard units that are clearly armed for battle.
		By declaring war on domestic terrorist organizations, the White House appears to be setting the stage for a broader mission for the National Guard.
		Last week, something funny happened.
		Hassan Piker tweeted that Donald Trump was trying to create riots so he could send to the National Guard and shut down elections.
		Why did he say that?
		The Supreme Court issued a stay.
		Trump would not pay SNAP benefits.
		That's right.
		The only thing, it was Katanji Brown Jackson that ordered it, solely as she is a Supreme Court justice for the area, I believe, including Rhode Island and Massachusetts.
		When the appeal came in, Katanji Brown Jackson said to the Trump administration, do not pay SNAP.
		But as I always mentioned, the truth doesn't matter to these partisans.
		Hassan doesn't actually care who issued the ruling, just that orange man bad.
		Where are we headed, my friends?
		Well, four o'clock today on the Culture War podcast at rumble.com/slash the culture war as well as youtube.com/slash Timcast.
		I'll be talking with Nick Sorter about the current goings on on the ground, as well as some other circumstances happening in this country and what he thinks based on what he's seen with violence escalation.
		What will Trump do?
		Again, that'll be available at 4 p.m.
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		As for everybody else who are watching live, let's talk about what we're currently seeing with this story.
		And we'll start here.
		Manhunt underway after federal agents take gunfire as riders ram vehicles hurl debris on a gunman remains at large.
	So far, we don't know exactly who's shooting at these cops, but we have reason to believe it is linked to the Latin Kings, gang members who have been issued shoot-on-site orders targeting agents in Chicago.
	Now, I don't know what you'd call it.
	Chicago's becoming a war zone.
	I wouldn't necessarily say that this is civil war, but this is certainly what it starts like and what it looks like.
	My friends, as I've described it, what you will see is you will wake up and you will hear the news.
	You will hear the stories.
	Bombings here, shootings there.
	Virginia just elected a man who fantasized about killing children of his political enemies and killing his political enemies.
	And I've said it to many people: nothing's going to happen.
	Nothing formally.
	We're not going to hear stories of conservatives being murdered.
	Not from this, maybe from other stories.
	No, the head of law enforcement, Virginia, when he does target prominent conservatives, it'll be for possession of contraband, illicit substance.
	They'll get pulled over and given tickets.
	They'll get pulled over, and cops will just happen to find a little baggie of drugs, more than enough to jam up any one of these individuals.
	You got guns, just so happens.
	You did everything wrong with your gun, and they're coming for you.
	Then they'll say, it's not political.
	This Republican, it's a coincidence he's Republican.
	He's just some guy we pulled over.
	He had drugs.
	And what will you do about it?
	I'm going to bring in our friend Nick Sorter to talk about what is currently going on on the ground across this country, what he's seen covering this news.
	Let's see if we can get it going.
	Looks like we've got it booting up.
	We will bring in Nick.
	Should be good to go.
	Nick Sorter, what is going on?
nick sortor ▲ ● ▼		What's going, Tim?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's getting crazier every day.
		You see the story about ICE.
		I'm sorry, it was CBP getting shot at.
		I think it was ICE, actually, in Chicago.
		Well, you shake your head because, like, is this the fifth, sixth, or seventh time?
		Which story are you talking about?
nick sortor ▲ ● ▼		Which instance of it are we talking about at this point?
		You know, yeah, I know what you're talking about.
		I saw the photos of it with.
		You see, like a Jeep Wagoneer, with the windows busted out from the back because, you know, people are genuinely opening fire on these people and it's it's a a matter of time before they're just assassinated in the streets.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And I mean it's been normalized man, that that was the attempt.
		So we've got this.
		Over the weekend they uh, the report is that Latin King gang members in Chicago have been given shoot on site orders to kill DHS agents.
		And then you get, you get.
		You have that story.
		At the same time, you have the story of this jeep pulling up while they're trying to, they're arresting somebody and open fire.
		Seems like it's related.
		Obviously, this isn't the only thing we've seen.
		It's been bubbling up with the target attacks on ice facilities and uh, I gotta say it, but another article drops suggesting we could be entering a civil war.
nick sortor ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, of course, I mean the Latin Kings guys and I believe other uh gangs out in Chicago have put out actual hits on people like this by Greg Bevino, who's out there every single day in the streets.
		Uh, you have the uh the, the judges out there, the activist judges that are taking the sides of these violent gangs and and persecuting not the gangs but instead people like Greg Bevino, who they tried to force to come in there to court every single day at 5 p.m, which is just absolutely wild.
		That was just an attempt to get him off the streets.
		They didn't want him leading his men uh, as he does.
		You see these videos of Greg Covino, uh, he doesn't just bark orders, he actually helps his men carry out those orders.
		Uh, but man, I look, we've seen the National Guard again and again and again being blocked and barred from going in and assisting federal agents, not doing their own mass roundups, but to protect the men that are being shot at and to protect the facilities that are attempting to be taken over by uh violent rioters and street gangs.
		I mean, what more needs to be done before activist judges are finally like, huh, maybe you know, the National Guard should be used to protect federal agents who are being shot at in the streets.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But, but you know, here's the thing: that the assumption made when you call out these activist judges is that they're just activists and not enemies.
		You know, I often try to be careful, I guess, but I don't see the actions of these judges as regrettable disagreements.
		I think these judges are intentionally trying to abet criminal aliens, cartels, traffickers.
		And I believe that they have a similar ideology to the antifa on the ground and the far leftists and the gangs that want to kill ICE.
nick sortor ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely.
		I mean, look at what we're seeing out in Portland, for example, where you have this activist judge that has been blocking the National Guard from just being able to protect the facility, not do law enforcement work, not chase criminals or anything just to guard the facility out there in Portland.
		They know what the final result is going to be.
		The National Guard will end up being in Portland.
		That is pretty much a widely accepted outcome at this point.
		But every single day that they can stall and delay is another day where hundreds of illegals in and around Portland can't be rounded up and sent back home because DHS agents are too busy guarding their own facility.
		It's all part of the plan.
		That's what these activists are doing.
		They want to stall and delay, and it's working.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The fact that we've seen videos where I don't even know if leftists is the right word.
		Terrorists pop the doors open on these vehicles and allow the criminals to escape.
		We've got this story where they tried pulling over a vehicle and the men and women sped into a shopping center, jump out, and tried running into a school.
		And then the media tries framing law enforcement as the bad guys.
		I look at all this stuff and I'm just thinking, I don't know how I don't know how we don't see civil war, to be honest.
		I mean, I try to be, as much as I talk about it, you know, we don't know where it's going to go or how things are going to change, but we're at this point where governors, judges are actively assisting those.
		If you look at Illinois, a great example: Pritzker, Johnson, and these judges attacking law enforcement, judges saying they can't have barricades in front of their facility while they're getting shot at and people are trying to murder them.
		At a certain point, it's like, okay, they're trying to murder these guys, and you're trying to hinder the guys from protecting themselves.
		You want them dead, don't you?
		Where does that bring us as a country?
nick sortor ▲ ● ▼		Well, honestly, Tim, I think one of the more things that I worry about the most, and this isn't really being talked about too much, there is a campaign going on in the background to encourage jurors to essentially defect.
		And, you know, it's called jury nullification.
		I mean, I'm sure you know all about it, where you're seeing ICE agents being physically assaulted in the streets, and juries are, you know, it's clear as day, clear as day.
		It's on video, but these juries still go and they will acquit.
		Or you see grand juries that won't even indict, not because there's no probable cause or there's no just proof, even.
		It's because they are being told that they don't have to, if they don't want to, if they don't agree with this, with people that assault ICE agents being punished, then you can just acquit them and they don't have to worry about it.
		And that's emboldening people to be more and more brazen, especially in places like Chicago.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You do have the sillier story where the guy threw a sandwich at a federal agent and got acquitted, which is pretty crazy.
		I don't think the cop was injured, but certainly you'd give the guy at least a slap on the wrist for throwing a sandwich.
		You know, I'm not going to say lock a guy for 20 years over a sandwich, but he could spend the weekend in jail or something.
		He can get a couple of things, could pay a fine.
		Like, hey, don't do that.
		But you are right.
		There have been several stories now where these grand juries and these juries are just going to acquit people.
		You know, what's terrifying is what we see with other big news, of course, is that Trump issued pardons for several people like Giuliani, people who were involved in the 2020 election challenge.
		And you can see in a jurisdiction like Atlanta or New York City, a jury will convict no matter what.
		You can say the craziest stupid thing, and the political bifurcation is so intense and the vitriol is so intense that you can actually attack a federal officer and get acquitted.
		And Donald Trump can be falsely accused of crimes and be convicted.
nick sortor ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, dude, I'm terrified for this, Johns, for the American justice system at this point.
		It's all politically based at this point.
		I mean, we're going to see other folks that are genuinely guilty, like James Comey.
		You'll see Letitia James and probably Adam Schiff when he ends up being indicted in Maryland.
		I don't see any of them being convicted, unfortunately, by juries because they're being emboldened.
		Every time you see something, even with the sandwich story, right?
		Here in the Washington, D.C. area, all the local news starts blasting it out there almost in a celebratory fashion that is going to encourage other people that are on these juries in the future to do exactly the same thing.
		And I mean, we're spiraling, man.
		And you don't see that coming from the conservative side as much as you would see from the left.
		You know, people like me, honestly, if I would have been put in front of a jury in Portland because I had been villainized so much by the media out there, even though I did absolutely nothing wrong to be arrested out there, I believe I would have ended up being convicted.
		And that's just how it is at this point.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I got to be honest, I think the only reason you weren't is because the Trump administration made public statements on the issue and it put pressure on them where they said that the juice wasn't worth the squeeze.
		But the fact that you got attacked by Antifa and they arrested you shows this is not about law enforcement.
		This is about partisan conflict.
		And the way I described it was the police in Portland don't see you as a victim of a crime.
		They see you as an antagonistic enemy partisan invading their home.
		That's why I'm like, this is not about the merits of law enforcement, law, Congress.
		This is political partisans deciding when they want to defend their home and when they don't.
		But conservatives keep acting as though we're in an argument while Democrats are acting like they're in a war.
nick sortor ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
		And that's what they're being told, especially, you know, they think they're in a war against literal Nazis and fascists.
		And I mean, you hear that, especially on the streets of Portland.
		At one point, I got such a credible death threat from a trans individual.
		We'll publish more about this soon.
		That I ended up backing off the streets for a few days out there because that individual was literally looking for me, was armed and looking for me.
		And there was nothing that was going to be done about it.
		Portland police, you know, really don't show up very much on the streets out there.
		You know, this is how it ended up working.
		When I was out on the streets of, I was talking with my attorneys and stuff that are working out there.
		We put together a 22-page pattern and practice of the Portland police going back years, showing how they operate against Antifa folks versus people that are perceived to be pro-Trump, where they won't issue you permits for protests if you're doing pro-Trump permits, but they will enforce the law against you if you try to have a permitless protest.
		Meanwhile, we see Antifa going out there, trying to burn down buildings, taking over streets, and none of that is ever enforced against them.
		And it's wild to me that this has been going on for over 10 years now, and hardly anything has changed.
		Nothing has been done.
		The federal government needs to come in and put their foot down here.
		And I'll release that document here, hopefully today, maybe even tomorrow.
		But the DOJ is working with me very closely on that.
		So hopefully something will happen.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, I don't want to describe myself as pessimistic, but I don't want to say I'm optimistic with the recent shutdown news.
		The government's, as of this interview, it's not reopened just yet, but several Democrats have broken ranks.
		But this is Biden's funding package.
		This was the Biden spending bill the Republicans agreed to extend and Democrats acted like they didn't want or they were angry with it.
		So now the Republicans are viewed as having beat the Democrats by giving them their Biden administration spending package.
		I look at this stuff and, you know, Donald Trump says, and the filibuster so we can get the agenda done and the Republicans won't do it.
		So that makes me a little bit, you know, I mean, look, there's some stuff that makes me optimistic, but I get pessimistic when I see this because it seems like 2028 is going to come around and Newsom's going to win or there's going to be some Democrat advantage and it's going to just, it's going to get hot.
nick sortor ▲ ● ▼		It's definitely going to get hot.
		But man, I don't see there.
		I don't see how we passed really anything.
		I think we passed a total of three bills this year, essentially, you know, that need 60 votes.
		And it's not, look, man, the filibuster was never a part of the original Constitution.
		That came later.
		And it's not like the founding fathers didn't think about things that needed to have, you know, a two-thirds majority or something, right?
		Like they intentionally did not create a 60-vote threshold in the U.S. Senate.
		I don't believe that there is any chance in hell that if the Democrats don't retake the Senate, that they don't nuke the filibuster.
		Right.
		I mean, all they got to do is say, oh, well, we're up against Nazis right here.
		This is not the time.
		We can't be working with them anymore.
		This isn't going to work.
		And then they just get rid of the filibuster.
		All it takes is 51 votes to get rid of the 60 vote threshold.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
nick sortor ▲ ● ▼		We have enough Republicans to do it, but there are too many finals ones in there.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Democrats are going to say, well, thankfully, Republicans never used the nuclear option.
		So we can with impunity.
		And that's it.
		The borders will be opened.
		All illegal immigrants will be granted amnesty.
		It's going to be, and that's it.
		Once they're granted amnesty, now they can vote and Republicans will never win again.
		And they don't care.
		They don't care.
nick sortor ▲ ● ▼		They're going to play hardball now.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
		So I'm not particularly optimistic.
		You know, I don't want to just act like it's blackpill all the way down.
		I think that all of this just leads to a potential for real conflict.
		And we're seeing a new article every couple of weeks from some personality, some media organization saying civil war is a real possibility.
		But I'm curious, one of the One spec, one, how do you describe this?
		Something that people are speculating on that I've pointed out.
		With winter now coming, it's getting cold.
		We are not going to see people out on the streets protesting the way they were in the summer.
		And this means that when ICE engages in its operations, there's going to be a lot less, let's just say, resistance from the left.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Friction.
nick sortor ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no, I think you're 100% right.
		I still think that you'll have like days of flare-ups, maybe if something happens.
		So I think the National Guard should still be there anyway, ready for those possibilities.
		But in Portland, for example, on the days where it was like cold and rainy, it was pretty much nobody out there because apparently fascism doesn't need to be fought when it's cold and or rainy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right.
nick sortor ▲ ● ▼		And it sort of makes the entire movement look like a joke.
		But I think that's going to be very true, what you're saying there.
		You're going to see a lot of this.
		You're not going to see any no kings protests in New York in the middle of December.
		It's not going to happen.
		And but, you know, also at the same time, during those months, you don't see Congress doing much either.
		So I don't, I expect some down months, nothing very exciting happening.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		To be fair, as much as I love Thanksgiving and Christmas, this period from Thanksgiving to New Year's, it's just like nothing happens.
		Everything is frozen and it's boring.
		But you know, boring can be good.
		So, you know, maybe we can use a little of chilling out.
		The problem is, I think the activist groups behind the scenes will still be organizing.
		Republicans will go, I mean, the politicians to their families, have their vacations, and completely forget about this.
		Conservative activists largely will just go with their families and do holiday stuff.
		But I'm telling you, these far-left Antifa guys who are whack-aloon weirdos are going to keep planning and organizing, not necessarily going out in the streets, but this will be their advantage because they don't have Christmas.
		They don't have Thanksgiving.
		Some do, but these wacky street rat guys, they don't.
nick sortor ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah.
		I mean, I was even out there on Halloween, right?
		In Portland, and it's like a little bit sad.
		You know, these people don't have, it's the same people out there.
		They don't have any family to go spend a holiday with or anything.
		So holidays really don't matter to them very much to begin with.
		I mean, that is their, this is all they know.
		A lot of them are misfits, Tim.
		Like you have the, you probably know how this works too, because you've covered this for years.
		You have the Antifa type militant people, right?
		And then you have the misfits that don't really know what they support.
		They're mentally ill.
		They're trans.
		And these are the only people that they can fit in with.
		And so that's what they do.
		That's why you'll see them out there every single day, regardless.
		And then in Portland, in particular, you will continue to see, I think they will reset up their camp out there.
		The Portland police are pretending like they're doing something right now.
		That way they can go to the appeals court, which, because they're doing this an NBA hearing now, which is basically the entire, or at least most of the appeals judges for the Ninth Circuit out there to rehear this entire case.
		And so they have to say, look, we're doing something for once in 10 years.
		We're actually doing something.
		And it's all for show.
		And as soon as that goes away, even in the wintertime, you will see this camp set back up.
		You'll see fires on the sidewalk and there will be some sort of group there.
		The ones that I worry about are the leftist Antifa militants that will come out there.
		And right now, a lot of them are like the D team out there because they don't want the National Guard to come in.
		So they're just sort of hanging out.
		Don't have OG Antifa out there at the moment, but they could come in at any time.
		And if you put your guard down, if ICE were to put their guard down up there, you'll see what happened back in June where the facility was stormed and they were being held hostage in their own building.
		You're going to end up seeing something like that happen again.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
		Yeah.
		What's worrying to me is with Chicago, it's not even a lot of well-organized antivatypes.
		We're hearing stories of people throwing paint from their rooftops, gang members.
		It's not just this French political faction anymore.
		It's looking like what's happened over the past several years with the Biden administration bringing illegal aliens into this country has created massive communities of people who oppose our government, don't respect our country or our laws, and are effectively fighting against the law enforcement, trying to stop it.
		It is maybe, you know, maybe you wouldn't call it war, but when you have 10 to 20 million non-citizens and we can't remove them, you know, they entered illegally, then we're on the verge of something, right?
		Whatever you're going to call it, you've got it in California, Oregon, Washington, Illinois, and it seems to be getting worse, particularly in Chicago.
		So what happens to this country?
		I mean, we as Americans voted for this law enforcement, but now in places like Illinois, the governor and the mayor are more beholden to the non-citizens.
		Zorhan Mamdani says he's going to protect the illegal immigrants from Trump.
nick sortor ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and that's this is one of my biggest concerns out here because obviously the immigration was probably the biggest issue on the ballot last year.
nick sortor ▲ ● ▼		And I think a lot of people are underwhelmed by the numbers that they've been seeing so far because the, you know, whether you like to say it or not, the resistance has been working.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
nick sortor ▲ ● ▼		It has been working.
		And we've got, in reality, we don't have three more years.
		We have one more year in order to actually get this train at full speed and meet the numbers.
		You know, the numbers aren't where they need to be.
		I mean, I'm a big supporter of DHS.
		I think that the guys in there are doing fantastic work, but there needs to be more.
		I mean, even if we've deported 600,000 people and we're looking at 20 million people, that's hardly a dent.
		You know, they want to look at just the most violent and whatever.
		But in reality, they need to just, we need to be doing mass roundups because the fabric of the country is changing.
		And if we don't get rid of these massive numbers of people and the Democrats get back in power because these areas have these massive populations of illegals and so they still count toward the census and we lose the House and the Senate and they nuke the filibuster, the country is done.
		I don't know.
		I can't stress that enough.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Not just that, amnesty.
		The Democrats, they're going to play this game.
		You know, we had, I can't remember who we had on the show on IRL.
		They said, look, maybe we just do an amnesty for the people who have been here for a long time and then we say no more.
		And it's like, yeah, it's the fourth time this country would have done that.
		Letting in millions of people, amnesty, millions of people, amnesty.
		And what happens?
		They change the fabric of our social structure in a way that the American people don't want.
		And what's the argument from the left?
		It's white supremacy.
		That if you were born in this country, even if you're black and you think this country is for Americans, you're a white supremacist.
		They call Larry Elder the black face of white supremacy.
		This is what they're going to do.
		They're going to naturalize all the illegal immigrants that Biden brought in through an amnesty package, ending the filibuster, and the Republicans will never win another election again.
nick sortor ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and it's a terrifying thought.
		And it's very, it's much closer than people think.
		When you've got such a massive portion of the population that believes that all of these illegals are actually victims here in a situation like this, and then they do regain power, they have the political capital.
		The Democrats would have the political capital to come and say, look, this is why we need to give them amnesty because the Republicans are trying to round them up and put them in concentration camps.
		And this is the only way we can protect them.
		And you'd get a huge portion of the country that would go along with that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What do you think we can see next year on the ground?
		I mean, you've been covering a lot of the Antifa stuff.
		We're talking about the winter being slow, but next year's an election year.
		So maybe we have one year left because the midterms are coming up.
		I think it's going to get really, really hot.
		But I'm curious based on what you've seen, what might happen in the springtime, summertime of next year.
nick sortor ▲ ● ▼		I mean, Tim, just being honest, like look at how much it's heated up and continues to heat up and how normal it is now for, you know, when you mentioned at the top of the show that there are ICE agents that were shot at in Chicago.
		And I mean, this is like basically a story that's at the bottom of page two on all of the, not all the news networks, but any news networks going to pick it up.
		It's not a headline anymore.
		And when it's becoming normalized like that, and you're seeing these increasing these people that are increasingly open about calling for conservatives and ICE agents and stuff to be killed, I don't see how it doesn't get worse.
		And you see more of a summer of love type thing coming next year in the midterms.
		I mean, you look, look at what happened in 2020.
		They had this perfect opportunity because it was an election year, this perfect opportunity to just take over the streets.
		And elected officials were too afraid to do anything about it and come down on them hard because it was an election year and they were worried about either losing the majority or losing the, in this case, the presidency.
		And I think you're going to see something similar to that again.
		I really hope not.
		I hope that the federal government can get their act together quick enough and hopefully have National Guard deployed in various hotspots around the country ready for that.
		But unless they do that, it's going to get a lot worse.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think at least by just before the midterms, we can expect to see another, I'll put it this way, another high-profile assassination or killing, I believe, is very, very likely within this next year.
		Because the killing of Charlie Kirk was like a green light for these people.
		Death threats have exploded exponentially.
		The average, there's so many academics who are like, oh, this certainly will wake people up and things will calm down.
		It's not.
		It's only gotten worse.
		I recently had a security assessment.
		They said it's gotten worse and we should be re-upping our security.
		We should be upping our security more.
		And I think the polling will be bad for Democrats more than it should be.
		Democrats should easily win the midterms next year based on historical trends, but things are changing based on the violence.
		So I think what may happen is in their desperation, the far left will act out again.
		It's going to hurt them in the polls again.
		Then they're going to act out even more because they're going to fear if they lose the midterms, they won't be able to stop Trump.
		I think it's going to get hot.
		And I hope it doesn't.
		But if it doesn't, then I think the likely reality is Democrats just end up winning in the midterms.
		And once they get congressional subpoena power, even with President Trump, people are going to prison.
		Like they did to Bannon and Navarro.
nick sortor ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and I think you're very right.
		And when it comes to assassinations, at this point, I have moved to a stance of it's not if, it's who and when.
		It's coming and it won't be long.
		With Democrats retaking Congress, I think the polls do shift in that direction.
		And people are worried based on the election results from last week, where you saw Jack Chitterelli.
		I mean, people thought it was going to be a little closer than it actually was.
		I think Virginia, Rob Bucket's had a crappy candidate.
		I mean, I'm just going to say that's what it was.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		A lot of people.
		I'll say this.
		There are some interesting things about New Jersey.
		They gained 500,000 new voters in the past couple of years that all voted Democrat.
		Honest question.
		How does that happen?
		There are suggestions, of course, that there was cheating.
		But if you look at these, there's viral images showing the total number of voters in New Jersey and the vote margins between the Democrat and the Republican are always comparable with a slight increase slowly over time.
		For some reason, this one election, Democrats have an additional 500,000 votes.
		And people are saying, where did those people come from?
		So, you know, regardless of whether or not they cheated, people certainly think they did.
		So, Nick, it's great.
		Great to have you.
		Any final thoughts you want to shout or anything you want to shout before you go?
nick sortor ▲ ● ▼		Keep an eye on Portland.
		There'd be a big story coming out of there this week.
		But, you know, I also want to say on that measure, if we don't get the, if we don't start looking into using our DOJ to drill down deep into these elections, I know these blue states continue to stonewall the DOJ in terms of like voter registration data.
		And, you know, like Pennsylvania, for example, you don't even have, like, you can go and register to vote.
		You don't need an ID for that either, not to vote nor register to vote.
		And until we get serious about that, you know, I don't think that anybody can be fully faithful in these elections.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So if they ended the filibuster, they could pass voter ID.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But Nick, where can people find you?
nick sortor ▲ ● ▼		Find me on X at Nick Sorter, NICKSORTOR.
		And just started a YouTube channel.
		Somebody took my name, though.
		So it's at real Nick Sorter on there.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right on.
		Thanks for hanging out, brother.
		We'll see you again soon.
nick sortor ▲ ● ▼		Appreciate it, man.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Take care.
		That is, of course, Nick Sorter on the ground, extraordinaire reporter, covering all of that stuff.
		Antifa, Portland, all of that field reporting that I don't do anymore.
		I don't do anymore.
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