Sept. 11, 2025 - Tim Pool Daily Show
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| We now have new reporting from the Wall Street Journal and even CNN corroborating the initial report from Steven Crowder early this morning that they they found a weapon, bolt action rifle with a spent casing inside of it with transgender and antifa ideology in graved on the casings. | ||
| And uh so we're we're we're bringing you this uh uh special live stream right now. | ||
| We are both on Rumble and YouTube. | ||
| We're gonna we're gonna show you a lot of the breaking news that we have right now. | ||
| We've got uh uh a satellite shot where we believe make uh we know where the uh shooter may have fled to. | ||
| Now I want to I'll mention a few things. | ||
| CNN, while still corroborating the story did not report on the nature of the uh ideology, just that they were cultural scribblings of some sort or cultural references. | ||
| The Wall Street Journal has, of course, confirmed that it was transgender anti-fascist ideology. | ||
| We also have amazing and tremendous news. | ||
| Donald Trump will posthumously be awarding Charlie Kirk the presidential medal of freedom. | ||
| I believe it's the Medal of Freedom. | ||
| And uh I respect the attempt, but I don't agree. | ||
| Comedy Central has pulled their Charlie Kirk episode, and I don't think that's the right move. | ||
| I know a lot of people are are are saying they did it out of respect, considering the tragedy that just happened. | ||
| But I just want to say that uh, you know, and we'll cover the story. | ||
| Uh Charlie was was he thought it was hilarious, he was proud. | ||
| The fact you know, uh I just see it like when s I Charlie was a kid when South Park came out. | ||
| He's a little kid. | ||
| And so he grew up with this legacy show being the biggest, the you know, the ratings were huge, they had uh a movie. | ||
| And now as an adult, his legacy was so impactful, they thought the need to mock him. | ||
| And that episode showed his importance and his cultural relevance. | ||
| And just like Charlie challenged ideas, they challenged his ideas with Humor, and I think Charlie respected it tremendously. | ||
| I think he changed, you know, when he changed his profile picture to South Park, he was basically saying, like, it is an honor to be mocked by you, sir. | ||
| So we'll we'll we'll talk about all that. | ||
| We have some uh reactions, of course, that I think are a little bit uh uh more callous. | ||
| International Business Times saying who's next. | ||
| So we'll talk about that. | ||
| Um and then, of course, we're gonna be joined by Connor Tomlinson at 1230 to talk about uh his view on this on the violence, but not to mention the impact that Charlie Kirk had uh, you know, overseas in the UK. | ||
| Uh for this special morning show, Tate Brown is actually joining. | ||
| Yeah, good afternoon. | ||
| He is he is here as well. | ||
| I think we have the camera. | ||
| If uh sitting there, good afternoon, everyone. | ||
| Obviously, uh you've seen me relief host, that sort of thing. | ||
| Um, you know, really grim circumstances here today, but um, yeah, obviously not happy to be here, but I am here. | ||
| So yeah. | ||
| Uh uh for this for this broadcast, I suppose. | ||
| Uh grab your uh uh, you know, send in your chats if you're seeing anything, uh any breaking news, rumble rant super chats. | ||
| Uh we're gonna be jumping to Rumble exclusive, uncensored for uh 1230. | ||
| Usually we just do this live show. | ||
| Uh this live show is just rumble for their morning lineup. | ||
| But considering the scale of news we want to maximize and just business is out the window. | ||
| We don't care about that right now. | ||
| We're mostly concerned about getting as many people to learn about what's going on, understand the uh the nature of the news as we're seeing it, statements that are coming through, as well as uh, you know, the importance of Charlie Kirk and what he meant to us. | ||
| Uh that being said, for discussion on leftist violence, the reason we will be having this uncensored portion on Rumble is for obvious reasons. | ||
| Some of these discussions uh we are concerned may not be allowed to happen on some of these platforms, so we will be uh jumping over to Rumble for that. | ||
| Uh what is we got mic problems? | ||
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Yeah, I just had the earlier. | |
| Oh, I see. | ||
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Right. | |
| Your audio was coming through my mic, is that what it was? | ||
| I think so, yeah. | ||
| Well, you know, we didn't we didn't we don't have the morning show set up for this uh uh larger table discussion, but we got surge, we got should be hot now. | ||
| Now it's good. | ||
| That's good news. | ||
| So uh let's pull up the story from the Wall Street Journal and just start breaking down the news and giving you guys the latest. | ||
| Um I will say first and foremost, I believe Trump's announcement of the presidential medal of freedom is is the best and and most important news. | ||
| We'll we'll play that statement from Trump. | ||
| I want to make sure we say that first and foremost before we get negative, but we will play that in a second. | ||
| The Wall Street Journal confirming a report from Steven Crowder's team. | ||
| So shout out to Steven Crowder and the mug club. | ||
| This was massive. | ||
| Early this morning, they received a DOJ leaked memo indicating that the individual in question had uh fled into a wooded area where they uh law enforcement recovered a bolt action 306 Mauser rolled up in a towel with a casing still inside it. | ||
| This is bolt action, meaning they fired and then they fled. | ||
| The uh they say investigators found ammunition engraved with expressions of transgender and anti-fascist ideology inside the rifle that authorities believe was used in the fatal shooting of Charlie Kirk, according to an internal law enforcement bulletin and a person familiar with the investigation. | ||
| The older model 30 caliber hunting rifle was discovered in the woods near the scene of Wednesday's shooting at Utah Valley University, wrapped in a towel with a spent cartridge, still in the chamber, the sources said. | ||
| There were also three unspent rounds in the magazine, all with wording on them. | ||
| Justice Department officials cautioned that the investigation was still in its preliminary stages, and that investigators were still examining the ammunition. | ||
| So I'll give this caveat. | ||
| You know, the title we put is that confirm Charlie Kirk Killer was trans trans leftist. | ||
| Um fair point. | ||
| Some people are saying maybe not, because this could have been a false flag or something. | ||
| I'm just gonna say it probably not the case. | ||
| Um, so what I can say is perhaps this could change. | ||
| In my opinion, with the corroboration now from even CNN who doesn't want to admit it. | ||
| The fact that law enforcement is saying we found this, I think it is extremely unlikely, improbable, and just tracking Occam's razor. | ||
| Somebody who's just who's writing these things on their weapons wanted a message to be heard. | ||
| And so, while false flags are certainly possible, I doubt it. | ||
| There's a lot of people that are saying this was a professional hit. | ||
| I say absolute absolutely not. | ||
| And I'm not an expert. | ||
| I can only tell you this. | ||
| I said it in my morning stream. | ||
| We I go to a range. | ||
| There was a 12-year-old kid. | ||
| He had a bolt action rifle. | ||
| At a hundred yards, he made every shot. | ||
| His dad was was teaching him how to shoot. | ||
| And the kid sat down at a table with the rifle and he made every target. | ||
| And it's it's between a hundred, it's like eighty to a hundred and twenty yards, perhaps. | ||
| He's sitting back, and it is not considered as far as I know, a difficult shot. | ||
| In fact, when I looked this up, and and to anybody expert there, please comment. | ||
| Tell me if I'm wrong. | ||
| I actually read several uh articles stating that at 150 yards with a bolt action rifle with a scope, it takes about one to two hours of training to hit. | ||
| One to two hours. | ||
| Very, very minimal. | ||
| This person probably planned their escape. | ||
| They wanted a message to be sent. | ||
| I tweeted this the other day. | ||
| If this was a professional hit and somebody wanted to take Charlie Kirk off the board, there are ways that it could be done that weren't so public and visible for everyone to see. | ||
| And so my view is that this was political. | ||
| These individuals wanted all of us to be afraid and to know how brutal and gruesome and what had happened. | ||
| Some people have pointed out. | ||
| Uh so I've talked with a few people, a few uh more learned people than I, uh, confirming what I had already believed to be true. | ||
| Some have said the bullet bounced off of Charlie Kirk's vest, rifle rounds, especially 30 calibals, aren't going to be bouncing off of a vest. | ||
| Charlie was not wearing plates. | ||
| Possibly, I mean, if he was wearing, we call it Fras, flexible rifle armor system, hexagonal ceramic plates. | ||
| If he was wearing that, you'd see it. | ||
| If he was wearing a plate carrier, you would see it. | ||
| This the round struck his neck, and the best assessment I've seen is that an individual who made the shot did not have proper training, didn't understand at that range the drop they would experience. | ||
| So they had a bolt action rifle that was properly zeroed, aimed, fired, and the bullet dropped. | ||
| It was they were aiming for the head and it went for the neck. | ||
| I think the intention was to send a message to each and every one of us, and that was the purpose of the public and gruesome nature by which this occurred. | ||
| And I believe the messages that were scrawled on the weapon and the weapon, they were they were abandoned intentionally so that they could issue that rallying cry to the left. | ||
| Now, by all means, if you have a different theory or opinion, you're entitled to that. | ||
| But I don't play the conspiracy game. | ||
| I follow Occam's razor. | ||
| The simple solution tends to be the correct one. | ||
| The least, I'll put it this way: the actual assessment is in the absence of evidence, the the solution that makes the least amount of assumptions tends to be correct, and that is the idea that a professional organization orchestrated this circuitous plot to frame the left to ignite some kind of violence and then bring in authoritarian. | ||
| None of that makes sense. | ||
| The people who are claiming it's Israel, Charlie Kirk was holding events where he brought Gen Z in to explain to them why he supported Israel and why their views on Jews were incorrect. | ||
| He was one of the most powerful allies Israel had. | ||
| And I've made this statement. | ||
| Israel's got 10 years left, if that, with Gen Z no longer supporting Israel. | ||
| The loss of Charlie Kirk hurts their strategy and their politics tremendously. | ||
| So that makes no sense. | ||
| And by all means, someone's going to make the argument they did it to martyr it. | ||
| All of that is circuitous and makes many assumptions. | ||
| The simple solution is death threats had been made, are still being made. | ||
| The left, many, I mean, there's prominent liberals that are denouncing this, and I respect that, but there are many leftists all across the board, not only sending death threats to every other prominent conservative, to uh Ben Shapiro, to Candace Owens, to Matt Walsh, to Michael Knowles, to me. | ||
| The simple, the simple solution to all of this is that the phrases they found scrawled in there were intentional to say this is why we did it. | ||
| To terrify all of us, to make us not want to go to these college campuses, and who benefits from that? | ||
| Does Trump, Trump, and JD Vance and conservatives win elections based on the actions of Charlie Kirk? | ||
| Who benefits? | ||
| Leftists who want to control the narrative at their universities. | ||
| Now let me show you this from CNN. | ||
| Tim real quick, the FBI field office in Salt Lake City just released person of interest photos. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Okay, do we have that? | ||
| You want to send it, send it. | ||
| It's in there. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Just a job. | ||
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Interesting. | |
| All right, let's uh I'm gonna pull these up. | ||
| We'll throw them in and then we'll get to the criticisms of uh of CNN. | ||
| FBI Salt Lake City, let's grab these images. | ||
| We are asking for the public's help identifying this person of interest in connection with the fatal shooting of Charlie Kirk at Utah Valley University. | ||
| It is important to stress right now, person of interest does not mean suspect. | ||
| So they may be looking for this person because this person may have been in or around or near, or who knows. | ||
| But I do find it interesting that their sunglasses, hat. | ||
| We don't know for sure. | ||
| I will stress this. | ||
| There is their images going around of individuals, and I'm gonna keep this vague because I don't want to put anyone on blast. | ||
| People are sharing images of individuals who are there. | ||
| And I I want to just warn all of you while people are saying, who is this guy? | ||
| Find out who he is. | ||
| We think this guy or that guy. | ||
| My understanding is that some of the people being identified are actually Charlie Kirk's good friends. | ||
| And people are so desperate. | ||
| I understand why, to figure out what's going on. | ||
| They're sharing images of people who worked with Turning Point and were there as friends of Charlie's to help him. | ||
| Just be careful. | ||
| When they say person of interest, we don't want to jump ahead of ourselves. | ||
| This person, for all we know, may have witnessed the shooter. | ||
| And they're saying they're looking for this person because they want to ask him what he saw. | ||
| For all we know, this person was seen going up to the roof. | ||
| And maybe they are potentially a suspect. | ||
| But the FBI says person of interest, so take that for what it is. | ||
| And uh once again, here are the images. | ||
| I uh I recommend you guys take a look at the FB at FBI Salt Lake City on X, so that you can uh see this for yourself. | ||
| And if anybody has any information, please reach out to the FBI, talk to the police. | ||
| That's a funny one, right? | ||
| Uh if you know anything, if you have any videos, and uh furthermore, the threats that uh our our team here is receiving and many others, we're being instructed ourselves to be in contact with the FBI. | ||
| But uh my I I feel like the left has just been given a green light. | ||
| This terrifies me. | ||
| I know uh Steven Crowder has talked about we we don't want escalation, we don't want conflict, but there is a we understand the threats, the violence, etc. | ||
| And uh we have to be safe and we have to be careful. | ||
| Uh so we'll jump over to the CNN article, and I want to show you this because this is this is what's causing the problem, and this is what has me very, very worried. | ||
| Federal officials probe rifle and ammo scrawled with cultural phrases after Charlie Kirk killing. | ||
| A range of phrases related to cultural issues were found scrawled on a rifle and ammunition found in the woods near where conservative activist Charlie Kirk was murdered on Wednesday, according to sources with knowledge of the investigation. | ||
| Authorities are analyzing those messages as they seek to identify a suspect in the killing source has said, but it's not not yet clear if they point to a motivation in the attack. | ||
| That is a lie. | ||
| Crowder published already, and the Wall Street Journal corroborated. | ||
| We know what the motivation is, but CNN is lying, and because of this, the regular people who follow CNN do not understand the current threat that we are facing from radical leftist ideology. | ||
| And the response they give us is yes, but I don't care if you think the right is violent. | ||
| By all means, any violent right wingers, we can arrest them all the same. | ||
| If anybody is on the right, anybody is uh Christian, Jewish, Islam, Buddhist, whatever, I don't care what their background is. | ||
| People who are threatening violence, preparing for violence and engaging in this should be arrested. | ||
| Right now, there is a concern that Charlie Kirk was killed because of radical leftist ideology. | ||
| CNN is obfuscating these details, in my view, intentionally for political reasons, and because of this, the public who relies on CNN is ill-informed. | ||
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So we got a studio issue or no, it's not here. | |
| So we uh uh moving forward, they say uh authorities are analyzing the messages, but it's not yet clear if there's a motivation in the attack. | ||
| Among the markings were initials that authorities are seeking to match with suspect profiles, one source said. | ||
| Robert Bowles, the FBI special agent in charge of the Bureau of Salt Lake City office, said at a news conference this morning that agents recovered a high-powered bolt action rifle in a wooded area where the shooter had fled. | ||
| The FBI laboratory will analyze the weapon, Bull said. | ||
| So we have Google Earth pulled up at UVU, and uh we can see here, let's um let's grab the the rooftop where uh you can see it's actually pretty small. | ||
| Right here, this is where Charlie was. | ||
| This is the roof where they believe the shot was fired. | ||
| Now, there are a couple of quote wooded areas, but if we zoom out, uh surge is pointed this out to us right away when the newsbrook, there's no wooded areas. | ||
| There's no woods. | ||
| It's a desert. | ||
| There's, I mean, he didn't flee all the way to the mountains. | ||
| Closest woods. | ||
| So when you zoom back in to the building in question, which is here, they believe the shot was made from this distance, which is 455 feet. | ||
| There are two areas that make sense where he may have dropped them up in this, these row of trees. | ||
| I wouldn't necessarily call a wooded area, but perhaps. | ||
| You've you can see here there's nine trees in this uh three by three. | ||
| There's a little bit more than that around it, but perhaps he went in there. | ||
| Considering it's only a handful of trees, I I don't think that would be the spot. | ||
| I'm not entirely sure, but when you when you come over here, this seems to make more sense. | ||
| So the belief would be then he fled from the building, and these are the closest quote unquote wooded areas. | ||
| You have this row of trees, which I don't think anyone would qualify as a wooded area, maybe. | ||
| This, maybe, not really. | ||
| But if you look right here, this actually looks like a decently wooded area. | ||
| Uh, you also have, excuse me, across the street, these trees, but again, I think the probability lies with this area, which is a bit denser, which looks to be a cluster of trees, many, you know, about 30 or 40 trees. | ||
| So perhaps the the individual then fled to these trees, dropped their gear, uh, left the weapon behind, and fled. | ||
| Now I've had people tell me they believe it was a professional hit. | ||
| I believe that's not correct. | ||
| I don't think that makes sense. | ||
| And their argument is he got away. | ||
| How is that possible? | ||
| So let me just say this one more time. | ||
| I don't believe it's possible. | ||
| Maybe I'm not I'm not right about this, that a 30 out six is going to bounce off of a low grade vest, bulletproof vests, don't stop rifle rounds. | ||
| Um for that matter, I think people believe too much in the movies that uh look, I'll just put it like this. | ||
| Most premeditated murder is unsolved. | ||
| The the rates are different for jurisdiction, but they tend to go unsolved because people plan and they get away with it. | ||
| So when people say, how could this person have gotten away with it? | ||
| Well, first, locating the vantage point by which the shot was taken is not something they would immediately recognize. | ||
| That is, when the shots are fired, the first thing that happens is they immediately tend to Charlie. | ||
| Secure the immediate perimeter, people are running and fleeing. | ||
| You've got a decent minute or a couple of minutes where there is panic, especially with the priority being Charlie. | ||
| This means the individual on the rooftop has several minutes before anyone even considers this rooftop. | ||
| Not so even if they begin searching, there are other points where it could go. | ||
| Now, the security experts probably have a general idea of the area that it came from, especially from the videos, but this takes minutes. | ||
| An individual can run. | ||
| I mean, somebody was untrained. | ||
| What are they going to clear? | ||
| High adrenaline panic, a mile in eight minutes. | ||
| I'm being generous. | ||
| Let's say this person actually premeditated this and did some basic training. | ||
| We're talking about serious training. | ||
| I believe with with uh what is it? | ||
| Is it do you guys think a six-minute mile is unreasonable for someone? | ||
| High adrenaline with basic training, running full speed. | ||
| So we're saying that within a few minutes, this person flees from the building, runs several hundred feet. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| This probably took only two or three minutes to discard the weapon and merge with the crowd, change their clothes, allowing them an affording them opportunity to escape. | ||
| I think that is not unreasonable. | ||
| I don't know for sure. | ||
| Who am I? | ||
| I'm just some guy. | ||
| But we do have a bit more to go over. | ||
| So uh again, we'll uh we'll we'll carry on with this, my friends. | ||
| And uh for those that are watching, I will just stress once again we do have an interview. | ||
| Uh we'll be we'll be joined by Connor Tomlinson. | ||
| That will be at uh Rumble.com slash Timcast in about 10 minutes. | ||
| With all due respect to the breaking news, we we want to maximize reach and make sure everybody understands the seriousness and how much we care about this. | ||
| The business is out the window. | ||
| We're not looking at sponsoring anything like that. | ||
| Uh the reason for bringing the uncensored portion to Rumble is because concerns of censorship over the the serious nature of this uh and the limitations we have with platforms outside of Rumble. | ||
| So uh just so you understand, in 10 minutes we'll be moving over to Rumble.com slash Timcast for the more uncensored portion of the show. | ||
| We do have this from the international there's some videos we want to show you of the aftermath, and I think with respect to YouTube for their rules. | ||
| I'm not trying to disparage the platform, though I do have criticisms over their censorship. | ||
| Rumble affords an opportunity for us to show you some of these videos that I think are very important, not of Charlie, but of the activist events and things that are happening in this country that I think are important for us to break down. | ||
| International Business Times published this story. | ||
| First, Charlie Kirk, are Candace Owens or Ben Shapiro next? | ||
| This is absolutely disgusting. | ||
| Completely inappropriate. | ||
| Now, by all means, read an article saying conservative influencers are fearful of the security threats to them. | ||
| That I understand. | ||
| But to say are they next, Lord have mercy. | ||
| We'll come back to these conversations as we get into the more serious nature of what we're seeing. | ||
| But for the time being, I want to at least show some of the positive news that we have, and it and and it's hard to be positive right now. | ||
| Trump says he will award Charlie Kirk the presidential medal of freedom. | ||
| I just want to say Trump and Charlie were friends. | ||
| Charlie was instrumental in the success of Trump in a second term, in inspiring young people to be better, to be moral, to improve their lives. | ||
| I have seen ridiculous conspiracy theories insinuating among the left that Trump was upset that Charlie Kirk wanted the Epstein files released, and that they are actually trying to argue online that Trump orchestrated this as a threat against Congress over Epstein that Trump would somehow be involved in the death of Charlie. | ||
| Trump and Charlie were friends, and I believe when you listen to this, I believe you can hear, and in the statement Trump made the other day, that Trump is holding back his emotions to be a leader. | ||
| But I think we can see it. | ||
| There are many people who are trying to maintain their composure, and Trump absolutely needs to. | ||
| But I believe Trump, a friend of Charlie, was devastated by this. | ||
| And I'll play the tip. | ||
| I'll play this, we'll play this video for you. | ||
| Thank you very much, everybody. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Before we begin, let me express the horror and grief. | ||
| So many Americans at the heinous assassination of Charlie Kirk have felt. | ||
| Charlie was a giant of his generation, a champion of liberty and an inspiration to millions and millions of people. | ||
| Our prayers are with his wonderful wife Eric and his beautiful children. | ||
| Fantastic people they are. | ||
| We miss him greatly, yet I have no doubt that Charlie's voice and the courage he put into the hearts of countless people, especially young people, will live on. | ||
| I'm pleased to announce that I will soon be awarding Charlie Kirk posthumously the Presidential Medal of Freedom. | ||
| The date of the ceremony will be announced, and I can only guarantee you one thing, that we will have a very big crowd, very, very big. | ||
| Tremendous respect to the president. | ||
| I do agree. | ||
| There's talk of a return to Utah. | ||
| Alex McRae super chatted saying that you were misinformed. | ||
| He was hit in the chest and the bullet ricocheted off. | ||
| There are slow motion videos showing this. | ||
| And if you watch the gruesome video, even at normal speed and watch the left upper side of his T-shirt, I don't know by what force of nature a 30 at six round is going to ricochet off of a chest. | ||
| Unless Charlie had what could possibly cause that? | ||
| I mean, there's no vest that's going to do that. | ||
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| No. | ||
| It's a it's a lot, it's a very large bullet. | ||
| Uh uh people keep saying this. | ||
| What I've heard is that it's his microphone. | ||
| He's getting hit and the microphone is flying up. | ||
| Uh, this doesn't make sense to me. | ||
| What would Charlie possibly have that could ricochet such a large round uh such a large round? | ||
| Uh even even in a plate carrier with ceramics, the bullets typically shatter. | ||
| So uh I don't believe this makes sense. | ||
| I know everyone keeps saying it, but it makes literally no sense that a bullet bounced off his chest. | ||
| Um people believe that bulletproof vests, like in the movies. | ||
| I mentioned this Earlier, Doc Brown and Back to the Future. | ||
| They unload full auto rifle on him, and then Marty comes to him and he shows the bulletproof vest because he got his letter. | ||
| That is impossible. | ||
| That is absolutely impossible. | ||
| Even with flexible rifle armor and a plate carrier, you're not getting through that. | ||
| So forgive me if I'm wrong. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But this makes that makes that makes no sense. | ||
| We'll grab some of your uh your comments though. | ||
| Interested to see if you guys have any uh updates or uh you know, maybe there's something uh that you've heard we'll get some rumble rants in here. | ||
| Uh Tech Rue says an AR-15 is the stupidest gun on the planet for long range use. | ||
| A bolt action 30 at six is the correct tool. | ||
| Trump would be dead if semi-autos had previously been banned. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Well, the argument is that crooks used a uh uh what did he use an AR-15 and 30-dot six bolt bolt action, less moving parts, more accurate, less training required. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Xanthos says this was not a professional hit. | ||
| It was, however, planned out between multiple people. | ||
| It's time to classify Antifa and those that fly the flag as domestic terrorists federally. | ||
| No such classification exists. | ||
| Uh because of the First Amendment, groups aren't ever classified as domestic terrorists. | ||
| It just doesn't happen. | ||
| There can be warnings of domestic terror action from groups. | ||
| Uh internationally, we can name groups as foreign terrorist organizations, FTOs. | ||
| But uh my understanding is that we don't do that domestically. | ||
| Michael Trillium says given the 30 out six's typical use with 150 to 165 grain bullets for hunting. | ||
| The most likely bullet drop is around 3.6 to 4 inches below the point of aim at 200 yards, with a 100 yard zero. | ||
| Yes, aimed for the head. | ||
| And this was a 150 yards, just a little bit. | ||
| It was 455 feet. | ||
| And so again, the best assessment I've seen, based on my own personal experience, limited as it is, is that it was a this this person had minimal training, was aiming for the head through a scope that was zeroed, which again at 150 yards does not require much skill. | ||
| And did not account for bullet drop because they didn't have proper training, and it was an aim, it was if they were aiming for Charlie's head, but it it dropped and went through the neck. | ||
| That makes the most sense. | ||
| Uh the idea of a bullet bouncing off his chest makes no sense because I don't know what kind of armor he would have that could do that. | ||
| That's just that makes no sense. | ||
| And um, I don't even I don't people have said he was wearing a low profile vest. | ||
| This is this is remarkable, guys. | ||
| If a vest is low profile, it's gonna be less than a stab vest. | ||
| When when when you have your standard, I mean we're looking, let's just say level three armor. | ||
| You're talking about low grade handguns. | ||
| It is extremely visible, it is huge. | ||
| Now, me personally, I've got uh I've got uh uh what level four? | ||
| It's it's a three A with a plate carrier. | ||
| I've got Frass, I've got other defense like we take this stuff very seriously, and I've had basic hostile environment training, which is not a lot. | ||
| I'm not pretending to be an expert, but I had about a couple weeks worth of hostile environment training to be brought to speed on armor, weapons. | ||
| We went through the training course, they explained to us in great detail. | ||
| You will not be safe from more than one shot. | ||
| I was I I have used plate carriers on a handful of occasions where we are explicitly told by our security teams you can handle one round. | ||
| Other than that, it's not real, it's not gonna work, it's not reliable. | ||
| And uh just it's that that's it, I guess. | ||
| I'm not an expert. | ||
| I mean, there are people who are more learned than I who can uh explain that. | ||
| We'll grab some of your uh YouTube super chats. | ||
| Freeman Dive Free says it's true about ricochet with any caliber round against armor. | ||
| It can ricochet or ammo spalling. | ||
| That's why some people in the military wear neck guards. | ||
| Perhaps I could be absolutely wrong on that regard. | ||
| Uh I also saw some experts speeding on there saying you can clearly see his shoulder blades through his t-shirt, making it unlikely that he would have a wearing any armor. | ||
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Right. | |
| Yeah, precisely. | ||
| Uh there are photos of Charlie at the event. | ||
| He's wearing a t-shirt. | ||
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| Uh people are saying with spalling, it's it's when the fragment it's fragmentation, right? | ||
| That it hits that it shatters off the armor and then the fragments go up and hit him. | ||
| Uh perhaps, but I don't believe Charlie was wearing armor. | ||
| Victor G says, could Charlie's shirt have moved from the air disturbance from the bullet? | ||
| It's a hoax says the people talking about bullet drop are incorrect at his elevation at at distance with 30 out six typical hunting MO zeroed at 100 yards. | ||
| The bullet will hit around two inches high, not low. | ||
| It will be in the upper arch of its trajectory. | ||
| And that that makes sense too if they if it was if they were aiming for his body. | ||
| And it went to his neck. | ||
| So I think either of this makes sense that it was what happened. | ||
| Oh, he's doubling. | ||
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Yeah, um because picking up all mics. | |
| Yep, I should have said it was testing, testing. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I'll say love you. | ||
| My friends, we are going to be joined uh in the next segment by uh Connor Tomlinson. | ||
| He's British. | ||
| And I thought it would be interesting to hear from someone not from the United States, someone who knew Charlie, and talk about the impact Charlie had internationally as well as what we're seeing with left and leftist violence across the board. | ||
| So uh for those that are watching on YouTube and uh uh with no disrespect to YouTube over their rules, they're your rules by all means. | ||
| You're entitled to your rules. | ||
| Uh for the for the next part of the conversation with respect to your rules, we will carry this conversation to rumble.com slash Timcast, where we are currently live. | ||
| So I encourage you all who would like to uh see some of the videos that are popping up online of the of you know it's happening at universities, then uh please join us over there. | ||
| Smash the like button, share the show, all that stuff. | ||
| Uh I'm you can follow me for breaking news and updates at Timcast uh on X and Instagram. | ||
| Tate, did you want to just shout out your socials real quick before you transfer over? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Follow me on X and Instagram at RealTate Brown. | ||
| Yeah, just follow me there. | ||
| All right. | ||
| We'll be wrapping up this portion of the YouTube stream. | ||
| And in about 30 seconds, we will resume on rumble.com slash Timcast. | ||
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| Thank you. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| So we're having uh an issue with uh Connor's uh tech right now, but we'll we'll continue the show as we uh we planned, and uh we'll just we'll just carry on with the next bit of news on this on this matter, and then we'll uh he can't get in at all. | ||
| Maybe he should just call in the phone like we did last time. | ||
| You may do that. | ||
| What's wrong with this guy's phone, huh? | ||
| And all right. | ||
| So the last time we had this issue with Connor, he just called, and then we just held up his phone to the mic. | ||
| So in the meantime, we'll start with this story. | ||
| The New York Post, Comedy Central polls, South Park episode mocking Charlie Kirk after assassination. | ||
| I just want to say I don't think they should. | ||
| Many people are saying that they did it out of respect, considering the tragedy. | ||
| It's not the first time they or other shows have done this. | ||
| About to say, Charlie was uh he was excited by it. | ||
| He changed his profile picture to Cartman. | ||
| He had a cultural impact that mattered, and uh I thought he enjoyed it. | ||
| They challenged his ideas, they mocked him, and that's what he was all about. | ||
| Were we we're we're able to get him? | ||
| Yeah, we should be on. | ||
| Connor, can you uh can you hear us? | ||
| I can, sir. | ||
| Hello. | ||
| All right. | ||
| The question is, can I hear you? | ||
| You there? | ||
| Yes, I am. | ||
| Hello? | ||
| Hey, right on. | ||
| Thanks for thanks for joining in. | ||
| We don't have the camera operating, uh, but we do have your voice. | ||
| So I appreciate you uh you joining in with us. | ||
| Uh Tate's hanging out as well. | ||
| Howdy. | ||
| Yeah, so the the the latest news, it looks like this was a uh based on the evidence recovered so far internally and confirmed by several news outlets, transgender leftist and antifa ideology, which makes sense considering the responses that we've seen uh from activists from people on the street. | ||
| Um curious, Connor, what your thoughts are. | ||
| Obviously, you're you're from the UK, but I believe you knew Charlie. | ||
| Um yeah, what do you think? | ||
| Yeah, so I was I was actually very lucky enough to to meet Charlie in May when he he came over and visited and had a very busy schedule uh debating demented leftists uh Oxford and Cambridge Union and uh appearing on GB News to talk about how he is an American was shocked that the the nation that gave America so many of its founding ideals had fallen into somewhere between um a failed Soviet state and the Islamic caliphate, | ||
| and he brought up the example of Lucy Connelly, the 42-year-old mother who was imprisoned for over 30 months for an imprudent tweet during last summer's protests and riots um while you know sex offenders walk free in my country. | ||
| And uh I had a sort of hour or so meeting with Charlie and I and a friend, and we were talking about how to replicate Trump's successful revolution over this side of the Atlantic, working on the media ventures, and he asked me for some briefing notes about Lucy Connolly's case, which I sent over in an email to his team, and his team responded uh saying, you know, it would be great next time we're over to get you guys on the show, uh, be really good to talk about your country. | ||
| Um I I know he was gonna come back and hopefully do a UK uh tour of all these important conversations he was having on university campuses, because that's really what flipped a hell of a lot of states. | ||
| Um and and Gen Z voters for Trump. | ||
| It was it was Charlie Kirk being a voice for them and representing their concerns, and now we're never gonna get to do that. | ||
| And uh I I when towards the end of the meeting, I did joke with him saying, Well, it's always nice to sit across from a future US president. | ||
| And uh I I think we all kind of sense that. | ||
| Like uh all of his closest friends seem to have sensed that too, and it is such a tragic loss, not just for his friends and his family. | ||
| I mean, dear Lord, I can't even imagine what he's how his kids are gonna feel. | ||
| Um, but it's uh it's a it's a tragic loss for the country and also uh for my country because we owe him a hell of a lot because without his spotlight shone on our concerns, I don't think the Trump administration would know just how bad things have been over here. | ||
| Connor, can you maybe as a Zoomer, can you maybe walk the audience through what Charlie Kirk specifically meant for Zoomers and what his role was in our sort of matriculation into conservative thought? | ||
| The reaction that all of the the Brit Zoomers had to seeing that horrific footage and um other than just praying that was that we thought he's one of ours, and this could be one of us at any time now, it just could be one of us. | ||
| Um Charlie was obviously the largest target because as you were mentioning earlier, guys, uh he was mocked on on South Parkham, took it in in good spirits. | ||
| Um he was ridiculed just the other day by Van Jones, you know, that they're accusing him of being the true danger, uh the true face of white supremacy in in America, rather than all of these random anti-white attacks that are going on like against that poor Ukrainian girl. | ||
| And so the the great irony though is that despite him occupying a being a bogeyman in the American left's mind just because he was successful and polite and upstanding character, and it meant that they couldn't smear him as easily as some of the some of the reprobates they like to use as bogeyman. | ||
| Um the irony is that for for quite a while he was used as the the uh example of you know he had he had founded Turning Point at 18 and quickly become a part of the Republican machine. | ||
| He was the anti-Trump and then got on board the Trump train. | ||
| He invited softer converts of you know the I left the left guys to turning point events, he was on legal migration than uh than illegal migration, and he was one of the main targets for the original group of war. | ||
| Remember, you know, when they were coming along and and harassing him in Q ⁇ A's to try and try and push him along. | ||
| And that's why so many accounts today, whether they're an ons, whether they're known faces, um, even Charlie's sort of harder-edged enemies on the right, have said, yeah, you know what, we were kind of we were kind of rough to him in all of our kind of gave him a hard time. | ||
| But he was one of our guys. | ||
| He was a patriot, he cared about the news, and they were only ever trying to jostle him along and make him make him a bit more on some of the issues. | ||
| Um, but we didn't want things to end up this way. | ||
| And the fact that they were targeting, you know, safe, clean cut and husband and father Charlie Kirk, means that they ironically took out the lie that was interested in persuading them in talking to them. | ||
| I think John Doyle tweeted something like, 'You guys killed the last guy that actually wanted to change your mind.' And so now, going forward, like, man, Charlie Kirk was the guy holding back the dam of Zoom of radicalism. | ||
| You're not going to get any more Charlie Kirks after killing Charlie Kirk. | ||
| You're going to get people that recognize that we are not in a mood for conversation anymore because you can't have open dialogue and discourse with people that just want to kill you. | ||
| So there I I saw a lot of the comments about uh sorry, I'm just changing the subject here because I'm just looking into it, but a lot of comments about the ricochet, the swalling. | ||
| And I understand what people are saying. | ||
| Uh some people believe that based on some some of the outlines in Charlie's shirt that he's actually he's not wearing uh uh a full standard vest, but he's wearing steel plates. | ||
| It does look like it's possible, but I don't think so. | ||
| And I'm just watching a few frames of the the point of impact, which is particularly brutal. | ||
| And people are making the argument that you can see uh his shirt moves and that they believe it was a ricochet from a steel plate. | ||
| I I I still don't I still don't think so. | ||
| Uh if he was wearing a steel plate, it's tiny. | ||
| It's it's this it's this big. | ||
| That that doesn't make any sense. | ||
| So I don't know. | ||
| Just trying to understand what's going on. | ||
| Uh Connor, while we have you, I'll we'll we'll play this. | ||
| Uh I'll we have a little bit of this footage, of course, uh some of this what's up? | ||
| Some of this stuff I don't think uh YouTube would be too keen on. | ||
| Extended footage of a fight at the Idaho Capitol through a man drove for the vigil on a scooter yelling F Charlie Kirk. | ||
| And uh there's not much to play, but I'll there's a several minutes long. | ||
| I'm only going to play a little bit. | ||
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| Okay, they're beating the crap out of this guy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So look, Charlie was beloved by so many people. | ||
| The people who worked with him, the the people who worked with his team loved how uh above and beyond they would go for for everybody else. | ||
| Not to mention the people he inspired. | ||
| The question now is with the escalation of this leftist violence. | ||
| A guy rode past screaming F Charlie Kirk, and they a mob surrounded him, started beating the crap out of him. | ||
| This rage is pent up, and people are sick of it. | ||
| Do you think that the death of Charlie Kirk could be some kind of catalyst that triggers the right, the left, or both? | ||
| I think that in order to stop any vigilante violence from breaking out, which is obviously undesirable because it just ends with more Charlie Kirk's, uh, the Trump administration needs to act now. | ||
| Like call it what you like. | ||
| Um, but they need to Trump needs to go for Bikeley. | ||
| Like an example. | ||
| Pink News, which is a trans activist news outlet, put out a tweet five hours ago that said, Charlie Kirk was discussing trans shooters' conspiracy moments before being shot. | ||
| These people are dancing on his grave. | ||
| They are denying the multiple transgender school shootings that have happened recently. | ||
| The the very thing that Charlie was discussing when he was killed, um, with the suggestion, of course, being that this shooter was a trans activist. | ||
| Um you cannot have a country. | ||
| There are so many people that need to spend a very long time, possibly the rest of their life in the mental industry. | ||
| You don't need to be cruel, you don't need to you don't need to you don't need to be the the the left's boogeyman, but you have to contain this violence that the people have been basically hypnotized into thinking that America is on the precipice of a genocidal fascist dictatorship, with figures like Donald Trump and Charlie Kirk being the faces of that. | ||
| Um I I don't know how it would operate under America's First Amendment, but you can't have CNN and MSNBC remain on the air and act like Radio Rwanda inciting mentally ill people to go out and physically attack and even kill Trump supporters. | ||
| I mean, how many Charlie Kirk needs to be the last martyr of MAGA? | ||
| Like we've already had Corey Comperator, they almost shot Steve Scalise, they had the kid a couple of years ago that was run over in an alley, and the guy said he was a radical Trump supporter. | ||
| The guy was 18, he didn't even do anything to it. | ||
| The I can you'll remember the the Antifa guy that shot the guy that got Trumper over here in like 2020. | ||
| We've had far too many examples of people just being gunned down just because there are demented leftists in your country that think they're an existential threat to them, uh and to these these marginalized client groups like transgender and um racial justice activists. | ||
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Um basically clarify real quick uh Connor. | |
| Uh Steve Scalise, I think you meant to say they almost killed him. | ||
| He was shot. | ||
| Uh I think he was shot several times, right? | ||
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| Yep. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And uh a long recovery. | ||
| Uh what I will just add real quick is I I I've looked at the video. | ||
| It's very, very difficult to watch. | ||
| There's several angles. | ||
| Charlie's not wearing a vest. | ||
| He's not. | ||
| And I think the the narrative that's being pushed that he was as I start looking through these, I I start you you see a handful of people just saying he was wearing a vest and it ricocheted. | ||
| And then after a little while, you see leftist accounts saying it was staged to create Trump 2.0 and and uh Charlie accidentally got hit by spalling. | ||
| The spalling narrative is being pushed by the left to argue that they were trying to stage this to make Charlie look like he they tried to kill him. | ||
| That's ridiculous. | ||
| This person shot and killed him, and I after having watched that video. | ||
| I am terrified of the radicalization and the powder keg that will erupt when the people who cared about Charlie and were fans of his see it. | ||
| Because I really do think there's a big difference between hearing it and seeing that video. | ||
| It is very difficult to watch. | ||
| And I'm an I'm an I'm an asshole who talks about all of the videos that I watch and the news that I've witnessed and the things that I've seen, and that is very hard for me to look at. | ||
| I can only imagine all of the people that he inspired around the world having to see what they did to this man. | ||
| Because that video is painful. | ||
| It hurts. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, I think I think for the longest time we anticipated if something like this were to happen to a titan of conservatism, that it would have sort of a demoralization effect, right? | ||
| That it would force conservatives to put their heads down. | ||
| But that's not the sense I was getting from my friends and family yesterday speaking to them about the incident. | ||
| They are they're filled with rage, quite frankly. | ||
| I mean, they they took out a Titan. | ||
| They took out someone that meant so much, especially to Zoomers, someone that you know held their hand and guided them into these ideas that we that we cherish and we're fighting for today. | ||
| And um like Tim's alluding to, I mean, I don't think I don't think there was a demoralization that happened yesterday. | ||
| I think there was um I I think it just it opened, it opened dark, a dark place. | ||
| But uh so Connor, uh in a couple days, there's going to be a massive event in the UK with many prominent conservative figures. | ||
| Uh what do you think's gonna I I mean, I kind of feel like this uh this event is going to actually scare the left off, I hope, from any kind of escalation or or or violence. | ||
| Curious your thoughts about what might happen this this weekend. | ||
| I know a number of high profile people in the British right who are now saying they won't go. | ||
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| Fearing security constraints. | ||
| Um blame them. | ||
| Because well, unlike in the states, um we don't have armed guards, you have people in high viz vests giving up their time to make sure that the women and children that will be attending this march know where the boundaries are to keep them at bay from the demented counter-protesters that undoubtedly the Met police will bring to stand alongside. | ||
| I mean, I was at March for Life last weekend and we had we were stood in a road, a very narrow passage, and uh the pro-abortion protesters were given a vantage point to scream down at us, and then on the other side of them were hundreds of uh pro-Palestine protesters, who many of whom have been arrested, one of them who dumped ice cream over Billboard Chris's head. | ||
| Um the police just put us right next to each other with very slim police presence given the number of people there. | ||
| Now, if if this rally that Robinson has organized brings out the number of people that they are expecting, it's going to bring out a hell of a lot of council protesters. | ||
| And there are there could well be um violent elements who bring weapons and try to cause some sort of mass casualty or or or panic event. | ||
| And I know there are lots of people who are just going now, and I'm not trying to discourage people from going, I'm really not, but I have just spoken to a handful of people who have just said, look, I can't go anymore because it's just too much. | ||
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Um I yeah. | |
| There are reports that Ben Shapiro is canceling his college tour. | ||
| Uh we've seen we've seen on X reports that his whole tour is canceled, but uh in the in the press, they've confirmed that I believe just the next uh couple are being canceled. | ||
| Let me see if there's been any updates on this. | ||
| And and and and there's the question. | ||
| So I've been reaching out to some uh so the Wall Street Journal is saying it's been postponed. | ||
| ABC says event at Reagan Library and CMI Valley is canceled. | ||
| I'm reaching out to to various personalities and conservatives uh for similar reasons as you've mentioned, uh, Connor, to see what their take is, and and everybody is basically leaning towards cancellation. | ||
| And I know the fear is that this is what the attack was intended to do, but the other fear is that this is a green light. | ||
| This is a signal to the left that they have begun. | ||
| And so at least for now, the security risk is too great uh to to be worth it. | ||
| Yeah, this is this is where Trump needs to ensure that this is not rewarded. | ||
| This is why we we are prudent enough not to turn to vigilante violence to avenge Charlie. | ||
| Vengeance must come in the proper application of the state's monopoly on force. | ||
| And so Trump needs to immediately prescribe Antifa as a terrorist organization. | ||
| He needs to prescribe matter, considering the literally the day before Charlie was killed, there was a leader of Black Lives Matter on social media saying black people have a right to violence. | ||
| No, you don't. | ||
| They need to the the globalizing safada movement have already shot two people dead at a uh at an event in New York a few months ago. | ||
| Just literally put all of these people that have called for violence or committed it, uh all the retroactively back to the riots in 2020, throw them in cuffs, throw them in cells, and make sure that these people are not walking the streets and terrorizing law-abiding Americans again. | ||
| Because you cannot have a country with people who, when you sit down to debate with them, they want to kill you. | ||
| It is existential at this point. | ||
| We have an image, the New York Post is uh New York Post has posted of what appears to be the weapon. | ||
| It is uh all black bolt action rifle with a scope on it in a box. | ||
| Um I'm I'm just thinking about Trump's application of force as you've described it. | ||
| And I think the sad reality is there's nothing you can do security-wise to make sure that these events will be safe. | ||
| Charlie had the best security. | ||
| I mean, he had the best. | ||
| Um we do our events and we have security guards, and and and I will say this of Charlie. | ||
| We when we were on stage at TPUSA, I don't think it was last year, but the year before, and I mentioned the uh the two-way restrictions, the right to bear arms, and the venue we are in at Amfest, doesn't uh I said, even this event, you're not allowed to bring weapons in. | ||
| And Charlie immediately said, that's not us. | ||
| That's the the the venue and the and the state restricting that. | ||
| My view, perhaps naive and ignorant, was if I do an event, and you have the right to bear arms, you have the right to bear arms, and I assume those risks by being on stage, if people in the crowd are gonna have weapons. | ||
| But now basically everyone's screaming in my ear, we can't do these events because even when we do, like so basically what happens is for what happens for us is our insurance company will not let us allow people to carry. | ||
| They won't ensure the event, the venue kicks us out instantly. | ||
| So it's like if you under the event, you have to have the insurance, otherwise the venue just can't cancels on you. | ||
| Even then, we just have a security guard do a quick pat down because we're like, it is what it is, right? | ||
| Now it's just when we actually talk with the security teams, there's no event we can do where security is guaranteed, especially when you see a rooftop, you know, rifle shot on on Charlie. | ||
| Even if Trump were to say we will begin cracking down, it won't change what what what what what is happening right now. | ||
| Yeah, it has made I I I hesitate to say permanently, but at least for the interim, it has made everything much more low trust than it ever needed to be. | ||
| And this is what happens when you have a uh culturally hostile, heterogeneous society. | ||
| It's the uh where bonds of trust and loyalty once existed, um, militant state force needs to step in to keep the peace. | ||
| And none of that is desirable, but I with with without mass incarcerations, I actually don't see a way out for the US. | ||
| I think the same is probably gonna hold true in the UK, given the amount of state-sponsored communist groups and and jihadist groups waiting in the wings to commit similar amounts of violence. | ||
| Um things have really gotten to the point now where it's like facing Roman Republic collapse levels in the states. | ||
| Um and if Trump doesn't clamp down on this like we want them to, I again I I agree. | ||
| I I do fear that it's gonna escalate to tip for tap violence, and we're gonna see more of more of our guys, more of our friends killed. | ||
| And that's after after the last 24 hours of you know seeing seeing Charlie gunned down and having to hug my wife a little tighter. | ||
| I don't want to see that happen to anyone else. | ||
| We're seeing from the left, not every single person, but there are many people posting, the right will use this for an authoritarian takeover. | ||
| And the the argument that they're making is Trump will justify a power grab, resulting in tyranny, and they have to resist it. | ||
| So I fear that in the event, what we what we have right now with Trump deploying the National Guard, and so far it's been limited, and uh ice raids. | ||
| The left has already claimed they are being attacked, despite the fact this is just standard law enforcement that was voted for in a republic. | ||
| If Trump does say we are going to clamp down on these escalation uh tactics and the violence, the left will just increase their response. | ||
| I I fear there's no exit ramp. | ||
| The ideology and the world view of the left in the United States and the right are so separate from each other. | ||
| The left, I mean, they're cheering for this, and then criticizing any efforts at law enforcement. | ||
| I fear I hate to be so pessimistic, that the only the the next the next thing we're gonna see is escalation, perhaps insurgent level violence. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, like I've personally always been skeptical of of any prediction of civil war in the United States. | ||
| I just felt like the dynamics weren't there, the the table wasn't set. | ||
| But yesterday really did feel like a Rubicon moment. | ||
| Yesterday did feel like that vision of of this dark future kind of came into view. | ||
| And I'd be lying if I said, okay, in addition to the anger and sadness I felt over the last 24 hours, there's a bit of worry creeping in now. | ||
| Like like Tim said, where is the off ramp? | ||
| I I I don't I think we've passed our exit. | ||
| I mean, the conversations I've already had with my family and security is like a a a line was crossed yesterday. | ||
| The targeting of a politician is terrifying. | ||
| But many people have pointed out that what is it like 10% of US presidents have been shot or assassinated. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's terrifying. | ||
| However, this was the targeting of a podcaster and activist. | ||
| Charlie Kirk did not make policy. | ||
| He uh did not dictate your life. | ||
| He didn't work law enforcement. | ||
| He held events where he talked to people and challenged them, and he was really good at it. | ||
| That moment is when the left said none of you are safe, and they intend for more. | ||
| I mean, the statements that we are seeing from these people on social media, they've already sent like I the the death threats that have come the way of all of us in this space. | ||
| You can't count them. | ||
| We've got people on our team who, if I said their name, you'd say who? | ||
| Getting death threats. | ||
| No disrespect. | ||
| But I I'm I'm I'm I'm talking to one of our one of our crew being like, how? | ||
| How did they find you? | ||
| Like, what is going on? | ||
| Yeah, Connor, look, I know you have a hard out here. | ||
| Um do you want to give any final thoughts and maybe where people can find you at? | ||
| Um, yeah, I I don't there's no need to do any plugs today, gents. | ||
| I think uh uh I've uh uh I I'd rather give all the honest Charlie. | ||
| But um one final thing I will say is that my so my wife, here you guys both know, um has been worried basically ever since she met me about the random and unprovoked violence that could befall any of us at any time. | ||
| And one of the things I've I've kept asking my my compadres over here in the UK is like when does when did someone like Douglas Murray stop getting public transport? | ||
| You know, no matter again, no matter what you think of him, uh he's always tackled immigration and Islam and leftism, and that is the most violent and unpredictable constituency. | ||
| The the the most savage bear you could poke. | ||
| And so when did he stop getting the train or the tube so that he didn't end up at this this poor Ukrainian girl that just got murdered? | ||
| Uh when did he stop doing open air events without security so that he didn't end up like Charlie? | ||
| And at this point, like all of all of my friends are like, look, we can't even afford it, but any time we come into London now, we need to get a private cap. | ||
| Um we don't want to come into our major cities anymore. | ||
| We just don't know when we could be next. | ||
| And it's because we saw Charlie as one of our own. | ||
| And uh I I do think that he needs to be the last person whose blood is shed because the right is playing with one hand behind its back, fearing a leftist retaliation that has always been a provocation and always will. | ||
| Uh they they are looking for an excuse to escalate. | ||
| All you can do is be righteous and crack down on them as hard as possible. | ||
| And I think the majority of law abiding people will actually prefer a show of strength against these domestic terrorists than they will allowing this anarcho tyranny to continue. | ||
| Well, Connor, thanks for thanks for for joining us, uh calling in, and uh, you know, we'll see you next time. | ||
| Yeah, God bless him. | ||
| And then quick thing to him. | ||
| I I watched your solo show last night, and I know I know Charlie was was your friend, and I could see how much it was affecting you, and I think you did it with the maximum amount of dignity possible. | ||
| I appreciate it. | ||
| He would have been happy. | ||
| So uh appreciate it, man. | ||
| Thanks for thanks for thanks for calling. | ||
| I really do appreciate it. | ||
| And I and I know I this is like the the millionth time I will say it. | ||
| I just I wanna I want to explain that again, Charlie's not like a guy that I played golf with. | ||
| I I don't want people to think that, you know, this is the dude that I called to go hang out at bars or anything like that. | ||
| He was a friend in that text him a couple times, ask him what was going on. | ||
| We'd uh DM, we'd uh uh work together on various projects, and he he went above and beyond for me and my crew. | ||
| Uh many of the people that work here at Timcast are uh much better friends with him and uh work directly with his team on a regular basis. | ||
| And uh he just was uh in the work that we did and when we crossed paths, which is was not all that often. | ||
| He was it was he he he went above and beyond. | ||
| I'll just put it that way. | ||
| I I you would not expect this in a business arrangement. | ||
| This was a guy who, as I mentioned already, built us our own studio in his office that we could do our show in Arizona that he paid to bring us out for, that he took care of everybody to make sure we were able to do it, who personally stayed to help us put this together. | ||
| When all of his staff had left to go home, Charlie stayed and said, I'm I'm gonna help you guys get this going and make sure everything works for you. | ||
| It was it was incredible. | ||
| And uh it's just it's an insanity that that they did uh they did this for now for this live show, my friends. | ||
| I know it's kind of uh uh everything's kind of up in the air. | ||
| We're gonna wrap this portion of our our our main hour show for you guys. | ||
| I'm gonna I'm gonna keep the live stream going because we have a little bit more for you, which I will just keep recording. | ||
| We'll put it we'll we'll we'll we'll uh get the recording going. | ||
| I'll do a quick uh another 15 minutes or so for you. | ||
| But for everybody who watched live, uh thank you so much for hanging out. | ||
| Thanks for sticking uh sticking uh with us in this news. | ||
| Uh Steven Crowder, of course, is still live and I he's got he's got the breaking news, he's got information. | ||
| I recommend you check him out. | ||
| And uh I'll just say, you know, I was talking with uh the the with the Rumble guys. | ||
| Charlie made Rumble. | ||
| Charlie was the guy. | ||
| Yeah, you know, I was talking with uh Chris, the CEO, and he said that he sat down with Charlie. | ||
| Charlie looked looked at him And said, this is the HQ. | ||
| Let's let's do this. | ||
| And he was instrumental in the in the creation of this massive platform, this tremendous platform that allows us to communicate without having our voices silenced. | ||
| He stood for free speech, not just his words, but also his work and his own personal money that he put into making sure we had this opportunity and everybody was able to share their ideas. | ||
| And they had to silence him because he was right about all of it. | ||
| And he was effective. | ||
| Shout out to the Rumble crew, the Rumble Morning lineup, to Steven Crowder, to uh Russell Brand, Jeremy at the quartering, everybody else. | ||
| Thanks for hanging out. | ||
| And uh we're gonna we're gonna just uh we're gonna keep the stream going for now. | ||
| And let's let's just uh we'll jump to this next story right here. | ||
| Let's uh let's get it. | ||
| We have this post from X, a CNN video where rep Seth Moulton blames the right. | ||
| This is so inappropriate that we saw the other day the firing of Matthew Dowd when Charlie Kirk had been shut, and he said, Well, awful that you say awful things, awful things happen. | ||
| They fired him. | ||
| Listen to this. | ||
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Let's be serious about where this violence is coming from. | |
| Of extremist violent attacks in America, extremist violence, violent murders. | ||
| 76% are from right wing extremists, 4% are from left-wing extremists. | ||
| I condemn that 4%. | ||
| But we also need to be honest about it as a nation about where this violence is coming from. | ||
| And oh, by the way, it's probably an appropriate time to talk about guns, too. | ||
| You hear a lot of conservatives saying, hey, the only thing we need to do here is get more guns on the street. | ||
| That's not gonna solve this problem. | ||
| That's gonna make it worse. | ||
| These people are evil, they're lying. | ||
| This is not correct, this is fake news, and it's the dirty game they always play. | ||
| They say to us, did you know the majority of mass shooters are white cisgender males? | ||
| And then what do they do? | ||
| Well, it's according to insert liberal NGO that determined that, and we claim it to be true. | ||
| The left has a series of organizations, and I'm not gonna name them. | ||
| There's one that recently called Charlie Kirk a white supremacist and a problem. | ||
| They claim to be experts, and they are cited as experts, so they can give these fake stats. | ||
| When they tell you that mass shooters are all cisgender white males, you know what they do? | ||
| They say, Well, we don't count count inner city violence. | ||
| That's not what we mean. | ||
| What they're really saying is we've excluded data intentionally so that we can lie to you for political power and blame white people and conservatives for this violence. | ||
| Now, as for the statement made by Seth Moulton, what is the assessment he's making and where's it come from? | ||
| Did you know? | ||
| Let me let me let me pull this up for you. | ||
| This is um I think this is uh what's the what's the organization? | ||
| The um, I think it's ADL. | ||
| Let me show you. | ||
| Let me show you how they lie to you by pulling up the anti-defamation leagues heat map, hate extremism, anti-seminant anti-semitism, and terrorism. | ||
| And this is just one way they generate these fake numbers to blame the right for all the violence. | ||
| So you see what they do? | ||
| They say uh anti-Semitic incidents, anti-LGBTQ plus, white supremacist, white supremacist events, extremist murders, terrorist plots, and attacks, extremists slash police shootouts. | ||
| When you click ideology, take a look at what it says. | ||
| Right wing, white supremacist, Islamist, right wing, anti-government, left wing, right wing, other. | ||
| So whites are white supremacist, anti-government, which you know includes leftists, and other. | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| What they have done is they have basically said, Islamist particular ideology, white supremacist particular ideology, anti-government, does not know left or right, but my favorite is other. | ||
| They've said, we've decided that anything that we don't like will be called right wing, and then this guy goes on TV the day after the assassination of a political activist and personality who only sought to speak with people and challenge ideas and have his own ideas challenged. | ||
| They cite numbers that come from these fake organizations So they can blame the right for all the violence. | ||
| Are there people on the right who are violent? | ||
| Indeed. | ||
| It's bad, should be condemned. | ||
| Are there people on the left that are violent? | ||
| Indeed, it's bad, it should be condemned. | ||
| But the reality is this anti-government is not right wing. | ||
| That's a lie. | ||
| But it allows them to put out numbers where they can say, look at all the right wing violence. | ||
| So when you get a leftist who says the government is bad, is that a left-wing protest, shoots or does whatever, the ADL can call it right wing. | ||
| When you, and here's the funniest thing, they actually call the black supremacist left wing. | ||
| And now I'm just going like, hold guys, perhaps they should break this down into further categories and just say perhaps racial identitarian or separate all of this. | ||
| But look what they do. | ||
| You can see it right there. | ||
| So let me put it like this. | ||
| If you are a neo-Nazi, white supremacist, and the only thing that matters to you is that you hate other minorities, you hate all the minorities. | ||
| The ADL says that person and Dave Smith and Nick Fuentes and Charlie Kirk are the same political ideology. | ||
| Despite the fact none of them get along. | ||
| These ideologies are not the same. | ||
| They would argue that a clan hood wearing guy who believes in government health care. | ||
| You could take a Democrat, a racist old school Democrat who wants government subsidized health care, protectionism, and uh uh a percentage of worker controlled production, but he hates black people, they'll call him right wing. | ||
| You can take a guy who is pro-life, but in every other means lefty, and they'll call him right wing. | ||
| And then they have the nerve to go on TV and say it's all right wing extremists. | ||
| They're faking the data, they're covering it up. | ||
| But if you actually track the real news like I do, what will you find? | ||
| When was the last time the right rioted? | ||
| We got it, we got we got the boys here in the room, guys. | ||
| Do you have any idea when the last time the right had a riot? | ||
| Brooks brothers riot was pretty right-wing coded. | ||
| Beyond that. | ||
| In the 2000s? | ||
| Yeah, beyond that, we had to go back probably a hundred years. | ||
| I mean, J6, yeah. | ||
| A6 was bad. | ||
| There was a lot of weird actors involved in J6. | ||
| It wasn't a purely like just mainstream right-wing riot endorsed by the city. | ||
| I'll give it to him. | ||
| I'll give it to him. | ||
| Well, grant that, go back before that. | ||
| You probably had to dig deep. | ||
| You really would. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know if you can find traditionalist conservatives, Christians going out and being violent. | ||
| I also just wanted to make a quick, quick uh, I don't know if it's correction or just statement, clarification would be the right word. | ||
| Uh Brent Scherer, the editor-in-chief of the Daily Wire, he put a statement out saying Ben did not have any college stops planned. | ||
| He had two book signings that he canceled out of respect for Charlie Kirk, not security concerns. | ||
| Ben still plans to attend college campuses this year. | ||
| The Daily Wire will not be deterred. | ||
| Okay, okay, that's good. | ||
| That's good. | ||
| Uh so let me just go back to the point that I was making with the Heat and uh uh conservatives. | ||
| What their intention is when people like Seth Moulton brought this data is to trick people that uh me, for instance, Southside of Chicago, urban, mixed race, second generation, skateboarding moderate. | ||
| They say he's right wing, and then they want you, as a liberal who doesn't watch my show to say, but he's right wing. | ||
| That means when a white supremacist psychopath kills people, they say he and Tim Poole are the same. | ||
| Now, if we actually broke down the ideologies, what will we find? | ||
| I am not going to claim the Krasensteens are anti-pha. | ||
| I certainly disagree with their opinions. | ||
| I certainly think that they can embolden some of these lunatics very often, but I draw a distinction with liberals and leftists all the time. | ||
| The left is pro-gun, liberals are not. | ||
| So when leftists are violent, I don't blame the Krasensteens over their tax policy or their disdain for Donald Trump. | ||
| I'll criticize them for statements they make. | ||
| Fair point. | ||
| When Kamala Harris solicits funding, donations for violent leftist writers, that's where we see the overlap. | ||
| But the left has various ideologies. | ||
| There's anarcho-leftists, they can be violent. | ||
| There's tanky leftists, very violent. | ||
| Antifa, violent. | ||
| And then there are pussy hat wearing little old ladies marching down the street, which may say disgusting things, but I think it's certainly different. | ||
| The left just says the right is all evil. | ||
| And they go on TV, you see them on CNN in one of the most inappropriate times blaming the right and saying to have an honest conversation about it. | ||
| Okay, take a look at the anti violence, Take a look at the ICE riots. | ||
| Take a look at all political action in the streets. | ||
| You never see the right protest. | ||
| We've had various protests over the past several weeks, pretending the ice. | ||
| All the violence is the left. | ||
| All of it. | ||
| At the start of Trump's first term, Breitbart was tracking every violent incident against Trump supporters, and there was like 800 in the span of a year. | ||
| People getting attacked, drinks thrown at them. | ||
| Charlie Kirk debated people. | ||
| Steven Crowder has done this too. | ||
| Crowder earlier today was showing videos from when he was doing change my mind and people stole from him or threatened him. | ||
| And you don't get the inverse. | ||
| So let me make this clear. | ||
| The moderate conservative right, the disaffected liberals who have joined them in their support for Trump are a political entity that has never engaged in overt direct violence targeting left personalities or individuals. | ||
| Doesn't happen. | ||
| You want to point out extremist right-wing groups? | ||
| Guess what? | ||
| When a man showed up to a patriot prayer rally in Portland, screaming racial slurs, they threw him out. | ||
| They kicked him out. | ||
| At leftist protests, when I was there at Trump's inauguration, and all of the ones that I've covered over the past 15 years, when violent leftists show up, you are instructed by the liberal organizers to quote, respect the diversity of tactics. | ||
| Outright telling you, don't snitch on the violent, don't get in their way, let them do what they do. | ||
| The right never tolerates that. | ||
| If you go to any of these right wing events and you say a naughty word, they'll throw you out in two seconds. | ||
| In fact, let's be real, a sex worker showed up to a I think it was what was a turning point event. | ||
| It was a TPSA, yeah. | ||
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You can't even, you can't even have a bad job, they'll throw you out. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| But the media and what Seth Moulton, what these Democrats try to do is lie to people who don't pay attention. | ||
| So I'll give you another example. | ||
| When CNN, let's pull this one up. | ||
| When the Wall Street Journal confirmed that the shooter had transgender and antifascist ideology scrawled on their weapon, CNN called it cultural issues and didn't inform their audience. | ||
| So they are simultaneously omitting information and putting on the air Seth Moulton to tell you it was the right when it's their fault. | ||
| They're the ones engaged in this violence. | ||
| MSNBC, when Charlie got shot, said maybe it was someone firing a gun in celebration. | ||
| You can see it plain as day. | ||
| CNN omitting this information is because they don't want they don't want it in their archives. | ||
| They don't want it on the record that left, the leftists are violent and dangerous, and the biggest threat to our to our security right now. | ||
| Don't get me wrong, violent far-right groups are dangerous and a threat, but am I looking over my shoulder at any point because there's some violent white supremacists lurking around? | ||
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| And you know what? | ||
| When I was a kid, white supremacists attacked my family home and are threw a brick through our window because my family is mixed race, Asian white. | ||
| And to this day, despite that, I don't look over my shoulder concerned a white person is going to attack me because of my race or my family history or anything like that. | ||
| The left response, well, you passed him. | ||
| I'm sure there's an excuse for you. | ||
| But you know what I do fear? | ||
| Because I have been attacked by the left, that violent psychopathic leftists will kill me and my family and my friends or hurt us. | ||
| And that's the reality. | ||
| They tell you they want to do it. | ||
| They're all over social media right now expressing their desire. | ||
| When a child was at the Lincoln Memorial minding his own business, and a Native American man got in his face banging a drum, they posted wood chipper pictures with blood splattering out of them. | ||
| They said they wanted to punch that kid in the face. | ||
| They said, hey, punch a Nazi, Nazis are bad, right? | ||
| And when Normies went, yeah, they said, okay, now we're going to point out the Nazis for you. | ||
| And they started calling literally every conservative and anyone who challenged the establishment a Nazi. | ||
| So I'm sick of this. | ||
| I I say enough already. | ||
| With these Democrats lying. | ||
| Whatever, whatever effort Trump's can and do under under law, legally, to secure and shut down this expansion of violence. | ||
| I think we need to use every civil legal tool, every criminal legal tool, and enough is enough. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, well, this reduces down, like you're saying, this reduces down to the fact that political violence is left-wing coded and rebellion is right-wing coded. | ||
| I mean, you look at political violence to the left, killing people left and right, rioting, etc., etc. | ||
| How does the right enact their will through rebellion? | ||
| I mean, look at Charlie Kirk. | ||
| This is someone who occupied and reinvented the mainstream. | ||
| He wasn't this crazy radical person, you know, calling for violence. | ||
| No, he's slow, meticulous, prudent, careful, calculated. | ||
| And that's that's just how the right operates. | ||
| It's through rebellion. | ||
| It's through a soft rebellion, uh, and a overhaul of the mainstream. | ||
| And then like I said earlier, left-wing political violence. | ||
| It's one-to-one. | ||
| I mean, you see it over and over and over again. | ||
| Project Underground, etc., etc. | ||
| Weather underground? | ||
| Weather underground. | ||
| I'll just, I'll just say that I would, I I want retribution, and I want it to be effective, reasoned, legal, but to the greatest extent possible. | ||
| And I hope, you know, when I look at Donald Trump giving his statements last night, it looked like he was holding it holding back his his his emotion, as he should as a leader. | ||
| The images today, following his statement, Trump and Milani look very sad. | ||
| We all are. | ||
| I I hope, I imagine Donald Trump wants to see retribution for his friend. | ||
| Charlie Kirk was instrumental in the movement today to protect, restore, to uh uh reignite the spirit of America. | ||
| Trump knows it. | ||
| We all know it. | ||
| And so I I hope we get a reasoned retribution. | ||
| We don't want to be irrational, we don't flap the handle. | ||
| No, we're going to be like stern fathers who say enough is enough. | ||
| It's time to get this house in order. | ||
| But I'll wrap up there, guys. | ||
| I appreciate you all hanging out. | ||
| You can follow me, of course, on X and Instagram at Timcast, subscribe to this channel. | ||
| Uh Tate's been hanging out. | ||
| Where can they find you? | ||
| Yeah, at RealTate Brown on X and Instagram. | ||
| And uh Serge, thanks for helping man the camera on the special morning live. |
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