Sept. 10, 2025 - Tim Pool Daily Show
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| NATO has shot down Russian drones in Polish airspace. | ||
| Poland has now invoked Article 4, calling in NATO nations for a convening to determine what to do next. | ||
| And Russia has denied it, saying, you've got no evidence. | ||
| It was us, and we don't expect that you will. | ||
| Now, the question is, has Russia taken it upon themselves to actually send drones into Polish airspace, perhaps for reconnaissance or intelligence gathering? | ||
| Could it have been an accident? | ||
| Russia engaged in a drone strike in Ukraine. | ||
| Several of the drones fly off course and they say, uh-oh, but just deny it. | ||
| Could it also be that Ukraine, in their efforts against these drones, either intentionally or accidentally, pressed them into Polish airspace? | ||
| We don't know exactly what just happened, but we have never been closer to serious war. | ||
| With some already suggesting, and to be fair, everybody and their grandmother suggesting World War III. | ||
| Now, NATO is saying this was reckless. | ||
| Maduro down in Venezuela says World War III has already begun, and that is because the U.S. blew up a boat with 11 people on it. | ||
| And there are reports they're targeting more. | ||
| Now, we don't know exactly how this is going to shape up our playout, but again, I do think it's fair to say whether it is NATO seeking a Casus Belli to enter the war in Ukraine against Russia or Russia's actual aggression against NATO, which seems insane, it happened. | ||
| The report is out. | ||
| The West will now have to respond. | ||
| And NATO nations can convene under Article 4 and say, we view this as an accident and we will not take action. | ||
| That seems reasonable and seems likely. | ||
| What will actually happen? | ||
| I mean, the drones entered Polish airspace. | ||
| They were shot down. | ||
| The Polish PM has announced this. | ||
| We've got videos of fighter jets scrambling. | ||
| And they may just say, we don't want full-scale war and we recognize this was not intentional. | ||
| Unless it was. | ||
| We don't exactly know what the powers that be want in all of this, but I can tell you, nobody over here wants war. | ||
| I say nobody, but John Bolton's lurking around the corner somewhere. | ||
| So let's break down all of this news. | ||
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| But for now, let's get back to the news, the breaking story. | ||
| CNN reporting, NATO shoots down Russian drones in Polish airspace, accusing Moscow of being absolutely reckless. | ||
| And Poland has invoked NATO's Article 4. | ||
| Article 4 allows member states to start a formal discussion within the Alliance about threats to their security. | ||
| It does not commit the Alliance to military action. | ||
| No. | ||
| This is the precursor. | ||
| It is a rare event in which Article 5 would actually just be invoked on the spot. | ||
| Article 5 is when they say NATO to arms. | ||
| So if Russia directly bombed actual Polish targets, we'd likely get an immediately, we'd likely get an immediate invocation of Article 5. | ||
| But because this was several drones flying in Polish airspace shot down and it is limited, Poland is basically saying, hold on, guys, bring it in. | ||
| Let's assess this. | ||
| Do we want to wait to see if this was intentional or if Russia is going to make moves? | ||
| Or is there going to be some type of retaliation against Russia, which could be sanctions, fines, some attempt at legal action against them, disrupting their trade? | ||
| All of this could escalate into serious war. | ||
| CNN's reporting. | ||
| NATO fighter jets shot down multiple Russian drones that violated Polish airspace during an attack on neighboring Ukraine early on Wednesday as the military alliance denounced Moscow for absolutely dangerous behavior that ratcheted up tensions to a new level. | ||
| The operation marked the first time that shots were fired by NATO since the start of the war in Ukraine. | ||
| Polish and Dutch jets intercepted the drones with assistance from Italian, German, and NATO's multinational forces, officials said. | ||
| What's crazy about this is that independent, open source intel had already produced the information tracking flight radar. | ||
| We knew that Italy, Germany, and I believe Dutch and others had launched Air Force material to track down and to intercept these Russian drones. | ||
| Now, it was unconfirmed last night, but the reports were flying. | ||
| And then we got a formal statement from Donald Tusk of Poland. | ||
| He's the prime minister of Poland, who stated, an operation is underway related to multiple violations of Polish airspace. | ||
| The military used armaments against the objects. | ||
| I am in constant contact with the president and the minister of defense. | ||
| I received a direct report from the operational commander. | ||
| It is now confirmed. | ||
| According to NATO intelligence, this was Russia. | ||
| And this is what I was saying last night. | ||
| NATO is not going to be launching Air Force. | ||
| Okay, so Ukraine said confirmed Russian drones in Polish airspace. | ||
| But NATO is not just going to fly off the word of Ukraine. | ||
| They must have had some actionable intelligence. | ||
| And it appears they did, and we've got photos. | ||
| They say the operation marked the first time that shots were fired by NATO since the start of the war in Ukraine. | ||
| Polish and Dutch jets intercepted the drones with assistance from Italian, German, and NATO's multinational forces. | ||
| Addressing the Polish parliament, Prime Minister Donald Tusk said that while there was no reason to say that Poland was in a state of war, it was closer to a conflict than any time since World War II. | ||
| He said the country was facing an enemy that does not hide its hostile intentions. | ||
| Tusk also announced that Poland has invoked Article 4 of NATO, meaning the alliance's main political decision-making body will now meet to discuss the situation and its next steps. | ||
| Russia's defense ministry said that it had carried out a strike against Ukraine and that no targets on the territory of Poland were planned for destruction. | ||
| NATO chief Mark Rutt said, however, that the violation of Poland's airspace was not an isolated incident. | ||
| Asked by reporters whether the incursion was deliberate, he said that while a full assessment was ongoing, whether it was intentionally or not, it is absolutely reckless. | ||
| It is absolutely dangerous. | ||
| I'm going to tell you this, guys. | ||
| You cannot, in a security situation like this, operate under the assumption it was an accident. | ||
| You cannot. | ||
| That is not how war preparedness or any kind of conflict or crisis preparedness works. | ||
| You always prepare for the worst. | ||
| And that is, in the event that this was intentional and NATO says we're going to ignore it, we understand it was an accident, Russia has a potential, there's a potential here to take advantage. | ||
| Even if it was an accident, you are giving away that you will not react in these circumstances. | ||
| Now, I believe we should operate under the assumption this was deliberate in that Russia, with their attack on Ukraine using these drones, could then make the reasonable claim, no, no, it was a strike on Ukraine and it was an accidental incursion into Poland when the intention may very well be reconnaissance. | ||
| Russia wants real-time data on not, look, when it comes to satellites, we got our satellites. | ||
| Russia could easily get information through spying, commercial flights, and things like this. | ||
| There's ways to get information on the ground much more easily. | ||
| But if they're trying to get, we call them, what do they call them, stingrays, or I forgot what the, I think stingray devices are the general term in war is probably a more sophisticated name. | ||
| But they fly planes over areas to detect and absorb radio frequencies to try and figure out what kind of weapons and technology are being used. | ||
| If Russia is planning to expand an incursion into Poland, they're going to want real-time data that they're not going to get through their standard instruments that are outside of the country. | ||
| They're going to need something more advanced. | ||
| Now, I'm not saying they did it on purpose. | ||
| I'm not saying we know for sure. | ||
| But we've got to operate as though that was likely the intention. | ||
| Otherwise, they'll do it again and then they will. | ||
| But the argument here is Russia is looking for a reason to fly drones into Polish territory to try and detect the degree of their national security, how they respond, and get an assessment. | ||
| And that means, whether accidental or not, maybe the drones just crashed, Poland must have a reaction and say, we will not tolerate Russian military assets in NATO territory, lest Russia feel emboldened and actually make a move. | ||
| They say, Rutz said the alliance's response was very successful and showed that NATO was able to and will defend every inch of its territory. | ||
| He added that the wider operations involved Polish F-16s and Dutch F-35 jets, an Italian early warning aircraft, German Patriot systems, and a NATO refueling aircraft. | ||
| That's what was crazy, because we had gotten confirmation last night that refueling aircraft had been deployed. | ||
| And it was right there. | ||
| Something was happening. | ||
| Take a look at this. | ||
| This is from the Polish Ministry of the Interior. | ||
| It appears these are the areas where the drones were taken out. | ||
| And that is deep into Polish territory. | ||
| But what a lot of people need to understand, let me zoom in here and get a better image for you guys. | ||
| This right here, this small space that says Russia, that's called Kaliningrad. | ||
| It is north of Poland. | ||
| It is isolated from the main Russian landmass, bordering the Baltic, Lithuania, and Polten. | ||
| Russian operates a heavy militarized territory in Oblast just north of Poland. | ||
| And you can see here this red dot. | ||
| That's apparently what's being reported. | ||
| Tusk said there were 19 intrusions of his country's airspace and that a large portion of the drones entered it from Belarus. | ||
| He called the incident an unprecedented violation of its airspace and said it lasted all night from just before midnight local time on Tuesday until 6.30 a.m. on Wednesday. | ||
| Poland's deputy prime minister, Radislaw Sikorski, said that the sheer number of drones that entered Polish airspace makes it clear this was a deliberate act by Russia. | ||
| I got to be honest. | ||
| I don't know how you'd make the argument that 19 is an accident. | ||
| In which case, I believe the highest probability is it's a probe of NATO defenses and an attempt to gather intel, electromagnetic frequency detection, trying to detect as much as possible to figure out what kind of communications and defense that NATO has. | ||
| Speaking to lawmakers, Tuss said that one piece of good news is that nobody was injured. | ||
| Poland's interior ministry said seven drones and parts of one unidentified missile have been found. | ||
| The locations where debris was found span hundreds of miles. | ||
| Now, I don't know if CNN has the actual images. | ||
| There's an image that I'm not sure if I have it pulled up. | ||
| I think I do. | ||
| Here we are. | ||
| This is the Newsweek article. | ||
| Trump reacts to, oh, I'm sorry, that's breaking news. | ||
| Let's pull that up. | ||
| It's happening now. | ||
| But in this article about Russia's response, saying, quote, the Polish side once again failed to present evidence of the Russian origin of the objects that entered Polish airspace, and there is no reason to expect that it will, and completely, groundlessly accused Russia of provocative actions. | ||
| Now, take a look at this image. | ||
| They say in this image, police and military, military police secure parts of a damaged object shot down by Polish authorities at a site in Wohen, Poland, I'm probably pronouncing that wrong, Wednesday, September 10th. | ||
| I have no idea if that's Russian. | ||
| You've got to be careful always, because it is not improbable that NATO may be seeking what's called a cassus belly, a cause of war, a cause for war. | ||
| That means if NATO forces feel, and I think this is a fair assessment at this point, that Putin is not willing to end this war in Ukraine. | ||
| Now, I can understand again, I'm not here to defend Ukraine or Zelensky. | ||
| I'm not a fan. | ||
| But I do understand it is completely logical that Zelensky is going to say no. | ||
| His country was invaded. | ||
| He's not going to tolerate that. | ||
| We wouldn't. | ||
| Nobody would. | ||
| But Russia is an equal actor in this, and Trump has been working to end this war. | ||
| And Zelensky was deferential to Trump when he was here. | ||
| I'm not going to cut him all the slack in the world. | ||
| It takes two to tango. | ||
| But if Russia is advancing, then it looks like the escalation is here. | ||
| And I think Russia is to blame. | ||
| They invaded. | ||
| This is escalating. | ||
| And if they are going to launch drones, and it's reasonable to believe that those drones landed in Poland, whether accidental or otherwise, it is their fault. | ||
| I would prefer it if Trump was able to negotiate an end to this, but he has tried over and over again. | ||
| So there is no excuse at this point for Russia to be launching any kind of incursion into NATO territory. | ||
| Now, they're saying it's not correct. | ||
| They're denying it. | ||
| They would. | ||
| The question then becomes: what is the reason why NATO would want to escalate this? | ||
| Perhaps to force Trump's hand? | ||
| Honestly, I have no idea. | ||
| And I'm not here to tell you what to believe. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm a guy on the internet reading news articles, and there's a reason not to trust the media. | ||
| And false flags are real things. | ||
| We don't know for sure. | ||
| But I'm going to say it like this: as far as I can tell, if I was going to roll the dice, the probability lies with a Russian probe of NATO defenses. | ||
| That seems to make the most sense. | ||
| There have been threats of sanctions on Russia. | ||
| Russia's threatened back. | ||
| Trump is attacking Venezuela. | ||
| And Russia may be saying, let's collect the data. | ||
| Let's read this from the New York Times. | ||
| And I will say it's fair. | ||
| Some will argue it's suicide. | ||
| It's lunacy for Russia to try and make a move like this. | ||
| But Russia knows a light touch is not going to result in a direct full-scale war. | ||
| So he might be able to get away with this, so long as NATO responds with some kind of light retaliation. | ||
| I mean, like sanctions, policy, or otherwise, not military. | ||
| I think we can de-escalate this, and I hope we do. | ||
| The New York Times says, what comes next with Article 4? | ||
| What is NATO? | ||
| I don't think I need to read that for you, but for those that don't know, it's the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, basically the U.S., Canada, and 10 European countries. | ||
| We get it. | ||
| The NATO members, you can see this right here. | ||
| Article 4 allows a member state to start a formal discussion among the Alliance about threats to its security. | ||
| Well, invoking Article 4 does not commit NATO to military action. | ||
| It is a required step towards a NATO decision to invoke Article 5. | ||
| An invocation of Article 5 is often assumed to have military implications, but the NATO treaties only say it will assist the party that has been attacked. | ||
| The joint NATO response early Wednesday showed how quickly the war in Ukraine could escalate into a military confrontation between Russia and NATO. | ||
| Mr. Rutz said that the alliance's air defenses were activated to ensure Poland's protection. | ||
| I mean, this is almost an Article 5 reaction. | ||
| NATO came to the defense of Poland to stop this attack. | ||
| The question is: what would assistance mean moving forward? | ||
| If Russia is not actively attacking Poland, then we don't have war. | ||
| And I don't see from this why there's any reason nor justification for Poland to strike Russian territory. | ||
| So this should be the end of it, unless Russia escalates. | ||
| I don't see why this should lead to anything more. | ||
| I hope it doesn't. | ||
| Now we have this tweet. | ||
| Andrew Fox on X, former airborne army officer, researcher, PhD student of guys, Ukraine says, this is no accident. | ||
| It is a probing attack on NATO's defenses to assess readiness, deliberately calibrated to be below the threshold to invoke Article 5. | ||
| I actually agree. | ||
| Take a look at this map. | ||
| This is a map monitoring war, showing drone launches from Russia, and you can see these coming from Russia come in and enter Polish territory. | ||
| Many of them coming in through Belarus. | ||
| I think it's a reasonable assessment. | ||
| I'm not saying it's definitive. | ||
| I'm not saying I have proof. | ||
| Take it with a grain of salt. | ||
| And by all means, comment right now and tell me why you think I'm wrong, because this is just my general opinion. | ||
| When you are dealing with this conflict that shows no sign of ending, blame whoever you want to blame. | ||
| Trump is certainly trying to put a stop to it. | ||
| It makes sense that Russia would want to get a general assessment of what Poland is doing. | ||
| I'll tell you why. | ||
| It may not be about NATO. | ||
| You may say, Tim, it's crazy. | ||
| Vladimir Putin's not going to risk war with NATO. | ||
| He'd get flattened. | ||
| Agreed. | ||
| But Russia may be thinking, we want intel on the weapons NATO is supplying to Ukraine. | ||
| It's that simple. | ||
| Now, the good news is, outside of all this, and I'm not going to say it's the best news in the world, but it is a slight degree in the right direction. | ||
| We are no longer footing the bill of the armament sent to Ukraine. | ||
| I don't think the American people should. | ||
| In fact, it's pretty good. | ||
| NATO's buying it from us. | ||
| That means more money flowing to us. | ||
| We are supplying weapons. | ||
| Taxpayers aren't footing the bill. | ||
| European taxpayers are footing the bill. | ||
| Now, I'd prefer it if the war was just over. | ||
| Don't get me wrong. | ||
| But it's a step in the right direction that we're at least not paying for it. | ||
| Now, these weapons are flowing into Europe, and they're coming into Ukraine from somewhere. | ||
| Vladimir Putin is trying to stop the flow of these weapons, but only in Ukraine where he's combating them. | ||
| It makes sense that Putin would launch reconnaissance drones into Ukraine to strike Ukraine, but entering into Polish territory to get advanced knowledge of where he needs to strike next and what is coming. | ||
| And it looks like it was meant to be deliberately just below the threshold for Article 5. | ||
| He's attacking Poland, but he's gathering information from various territories, Belarus, Kaliningrad, and through Ukraine, to get an assessment on what weapons are flowing into Ukraine. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| Again, I don't know. | ||
| I could be wrong about all of this, and I'll tell you, I probably am. | ||
| The one thing I can say is: please, for the love of all that is holy, we just don't want escalation. | ||
| Take a look. | ||
| I'll listen to this video. | ||
| Okay, it looks like we're not getting any audio out of this, and I'm not sure why. | ||
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Oh, there we go. | |
| Polish fighter jets. | ||
| This is last night. | ||
| So we were getting these reports. | ||
| It's pretty wild what we're currently seeing. | ||
| Now, this is a viral. | ||
| This is a tweet. | ||
| I don't know if it's viral necessarily. | ||
| It's actually just popping up in the trending section, so it doesn't actually have that many retweets or anything. | ||
| And it may be a nothing burger, but it says the USAF, a second E3B century, they scrambled Tinker Air Force Base in Oklahoma, head west towards Utah, circling the U.S. on high alert after the drone incursion. | ||
| May not be related at all. | ||
| These things happen. | ||
| I'm only bringing it up because this was this popped up in the trending tab, though the story about it is this tweet, it isn't. | ||
| Now, of course, I showed this already. | ||
| The Newsweek article says, Kiev and its European partners will see the Russian drone incident in Poland as a test of Trump's resolve in taking tougher action on Russia. | ||
| Now, we did get the breaking news right now. | ||
| Trump reacts to Russian drone attack on Poland. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| Let's refresh to see if we've got an update. | ||
| We don't. | ||
| U.S. President Donald Trump has reacted to the shooting down of Russian drones that violated NATO's airspace. | ||
| Quote, what's with Russia violating Poland's airspace with drones? | ||
| Here we go, he posted on Truth Social. | ||
| So that's where we are so far. | ||
| And this is rather disconcerting. | ||
| Now, I love this article from AS.com. | ||
| If World War III erupts, these are the first U.S. citizens who would get drafted. | ||
| Well, thank you for writing that up. | ||
| The U.S. has had a draft since 1973, but the nation's men are required by law to register, to be registered for selective service in the event of a national emergency. | ||
| Thank heavens, I'm turning 40 soon. | ||
| I won't be drafted. | ||
| You know, I'm going to say this about the draft real quick. | ||
| I support it 100%. | ||
| Now, let me clarify that intentionally inflammatory statement. | ||
| I support the idea that if our homeland is attacked, men, strong men of this country, able-bodied, will take up arms to defend it. | ||
| I do not respect in the least the idea that you would draft young men to send them off to foreign wars in some faraway land that doesn't threaten the sovereignty of the United States nor its interests and territories. | ||
| And so that means you're going to make the argument, but what the interests in this country, that country, this country? | ||
| No, that's liberal economic order interests, not American interests. | ||
| So if like China landed a bunch of boats on the coast of California and started storming in with military, and the U.S. government said we are calling upon all able-bodied young men to stand and defend this country, I agree with that. | ||
| You got to take into consideration people who don't want to fight and people who are a security risk, but you tell me where and when to stand, tell me what I can do to help, and I will. | ||
| And I think any able-bodied man should be able to. | ||
| And for that matter, those that are not able-bodied can still provide what they can provide. | ||
| So a guy whose legs don't work, you can work logistics, run computers, you can do what you got to do to help this country. | ||
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That being said, Ukraine, Russia? | |
| Nah, I'm not in support of that. | ||
| So they say, they go to mention in this article that the Russia attack on Poland, the drone attack on Poland, they call it. | ||
| I think it's a little bit inflammatory. | ||
| They say between 65 and 95%, 65 and 69 respectively, percent respectively of respondents, to the Atlantic Council's Scowcroft Center of Strategic and Security, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, agreed that military scenarios with Russia and China could come to pass. | ||
| If that were to come to pass, the U.S. may need to call on more of its citizens to fight. | ||
| Those in the United States, nearly all male, U.S. citizens and male immigrants, regardless of status, are required under federal law to register for selective service within 30 days of turning 18. | ||
| Late registrations are allowed until a man reaches his 26th birthday, but failure to do so is considered a felony. | ||
| It can result in penalties. | ||
| For those that don't know, typically, most people just automatically are registered when you're filling out your DMV paperwork. | ||
| It's just like, I think they give you the form. | ||
| I don't remember. | ||
| I mean, I'm almost 40. | ||
| It's been 20 years. | ||
| I don't remember. | ||
| But I think they gave me a card or something. | ||
| I filled it out in like whatever. | ||
| So you could face $250,000, a fine, five years' imprisonment, ineligible for state-based student loans, ineligible for federal job training. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| In the event of a national emergency, the nation could call upon those registered to fill the ranks. | ||
| I don't think we need to anymore. | ||
| I think with Pete Hegseth, what he's been doing, I think we're actually pretty good. | ||
| I think they were saying like we got too many people who want to join up, which is good news. | ||
| I don't think a draft is the Department of War. | ||
| Let's go. | ||
| I respect that tremendously. | ||
| I just want to stress this. | ||
| So anyway, real quick, step through would be a lottery, a random drawing of birthdays and numbers, established as a sequence in which individuals receive orders. | ||
| So the lottery would be for those turning 19 and would be conducted and finally 18.5 years old. | ||
| So they say it would, if additional lotteries were needed, what did they say? | ||
| It starts with 18, right? | ||
| Those who do, what does it say? | ||
| If additional lotteries were needed, the sequence would begin with those who during that year turned 21 and go progressively higher until 25. | ||
| 20th birthday falls in the year of the lottery. | ||
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Okay. | |
| So that's the way that that's where they're going. | ||
| You know, I'll say this real quick before we wrap this. | ||
| We'll wrap this one up. | ||
| I made the joke, Department of Defense was propaganda, and we should have called it Department of Offense because we're not defending the homeland. | ||
| For Trump to call it Department of War, I respect. | ||
| Call it what it is. | ||
| Stop playing stupid games. | ||
| It is the Department of War. | ||
| I don't want war. | ||
| No sane person wants war. | ||
| War happens. | ||
| Call it what it is. | ||
| That's what the U.S. does. | ||
| Now, I'm going to say, I hope it does not escalate. | ||
| It is not World War III. | ||
| I hope better men prevail and de-escalate these things. | ||
| But even Trump has tried. | ||
| Even Trump has tried. | ||
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| Now for everybody else. | ||
| Here's the story from MediaIte. | ||
| This man was hurting said CNN's Van Jones about the killer who stabbed Ukrainian refugee to death. | ||
| Let's refresh. | ||
| You know, let me just say a couple of things. | ||
| One is, I mean, what happened to that young woman was horrible. | ||
| And it's everybody's nightmare. | ||
| If you're in any public space, a subway, whatever, that something bad is going to happen to you or somebody you care about. | ||
| So it does strike a chord. | ||
| We don't know why that man did what he did. | ||
| He's a man. | ||
| For Charlie Kirk to say, we know he did it because she's white when there's no evidence of that is just pure racemongering, hate-mongering. | ||
| It's wrong. | ||
| Then he says that if something like that had happened the other way, there would be sweeping changes imposed on. | ||
| We get it. | ||
| He says the killer was hurting, and we don't know why he did it, despite the fact on video. | ||
| He says, I got that white girl. | ||
| Apparently, he says it twice. | ||
| That's what it sounds like. | ||
| Now we have this. | ||
| Listen to this. | ||
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I'm a right to violence. | |
| All oppressed people have a right to violence. | ||
| And I'm going to tell you something. | ||
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It's like the right to pee. | |
| You got to have the right place. | ||
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You got to have the right time. | |
| You got to have the appropriate situation. | ||
| And I'm absolutely convinced that this is it. | ||
| This clip was posted by Black Lives Matter just the other day as this national conversation is emerging. | ||
| This is from a film 1983 called Born in Flames. | ||
| It's a feminist communist propaganda piece, and they are justifying their right to use violence at a time when we're talking about a man who killed a young white girl who's not from this country, who's not a colonizer, who did nothing wrong. | ||
| So I'm going to be bringing in Brandon Tatum. | ||
| He knows a lot about this. | ||
| He's the expert. | ||
| Let's pull him in and see if we get this going. | ||
| It looks like it should be working just fine. | ||
| Let's boot it up. | ||
| Loading. | ||
| Hey, Brandon, can you hear me? | ||
| Yes, I can hear you. | ||
| Hey, all right. | ||
| Glad we got you. | ||
| We got you in. | ||
| And thanks for joining me, man. | ||
| Appreciate it. | ||
| It's my pleasure, man. | ||
| Did you see this video that Black Lives Matter posted? | ||
| It's this clip from a movie in the 80s where a black woman says, We have a right to violence all oppressed people. | ||
| Do they posted it just the other day? | ||
| Yeah, I saw a little bit of clip of it. | ||
| I didn't want to watch it all because it was so ridiculous, but I saw a tomorrow clip of it. | ||
| We also have that clip from Van Jones where he said, We don't know why this killer did it, and this killer was hurting. | ||
| So, I mean, you've got experience, obviously, with crime, law enforcement, all that stuff. | ||
| I'm curious your thoughts on the game that they're playing. | ||
| But seriously, this statement from BLM, we know what they're trying to say. | ||
| It's kind of freaky. | ||
| Well, it's not shocking to me as a black man. | ||
| It's not shocking. | ||
| And to most black people in America that got common sense of this being honest, it's not shocking that the lack of concern that black people have in situations like this. | ||
| If this was the roads reversed, and many people would admit to this, it would be outrageous. | ||
| People would be in the streets, people be screaming and spitting on each other, protests, burning buildings, and all kinds of stuff if the roads were reversed. | ||
| But in this particular scenario, even on the bus, even on the transit system, you had everybody around them were black, and he didn't stab nobody but her. | ||
| Then allegedly, he mentioned, I got that white girl. | ||
| And then none of the black people did anything to help her. | ||
| Initially, they just, oh, it ain't none of my business. | ||
| White girl gets attacked. | ||
| It ain't none of my business. | ||
| And so, and it's not shocking to me. | ||
| And when you talk about the Black Lives Matter scenario where they said the choir part out loud, the reason that I know that this is the true feeling of how black people feel, generically speaking, is because I used to feel this way. | ||
| I had the mind virus of hating white people growing up, feeling like all white people hated me. | ||
| And slavery was played a big part of it. | ||
| The police played a big part of it. | ||
| And when you're infected with that mind virus, all you see is white people bad, white people bad. | ||
| So every interaction you have is subconsciously you're thinking in your mind that this is a negative interaction and the white people are doing something against me. | ||
| Even if they're not doing nothing against you, the fact that white people are succeeding is an affront to black people when you grow up generically. | ||
| Not every black person is like this. | ||
| I mean, generally speaking, this is how black people feel. | ||
| So I'm not shocked that we don't see backlash. | ||
| I'm not shocked that people get on TV and try to make excuses for this guy. | ||
| They've been telling us for decades, and especially in like the 2010s with wokeness, DEI, that there's this plague of white supremacy in the country. | ||
| It's entrenching the ideas that you just explained. | ||
| And so, you know, Viva Fry the other day was saying, you've got this guy who's clearly schizophrenic or mentally ill, whatever it is that's going on. | ||
| And then for a decade, he's told by the corporate press, by the media, that he's being hunted on a daily basis by white people. | ||
| And this is what you get. | ||
| So it's like everything you just said, but then you add on this tenfold attack by the media. | ||
| And it seems like you are going to get more attacks like this. | ||
| And, you know, now there's a conversation popping up around interracial violence, where, you know, Will Kane talked about it. | ||
| Matt Walsh is talking about it. | ||
| I'm curious your thoughts on this as part of the conversation: that black on white violence is 26 times higher than white on black violence. | ||
| Do you think that's because of these narratives and that feeling you described? | ||
| A thousand percent. | ||
| When you're raised to view white people from the lens of a people who created slavery, which is how most people are receiving this information about slavery, and they're evil and they're conquerors all over the country, all over the world. | ||
| They conquered Native Americans. | ||
| These are evil, evil white people. | ||
| And what did they do to our ancestors? | ||
| They hung them from trees. | ||
| They mutilated them. | ||
| Jim Crow, when this is punched into your brain, and then every time you get pulled over by a white cop and you're black, they just gun you down like an animal. | ||
| You feel oppressed. | ||
| You feel angry. | ||
| You feel vengeful. | ||
| And it's all a lie. | ||
| But what happens is that vengeance and that hatred and somewhat fear causes you to be extra aggressive towards white people. | ||
| I remember when I was younger, and I felt like black people were better than white people. | ||
| And I felt like white people were inferior. | ||
| And I looked at white men as cowards. | ||
| And I would love an opportunity to put my hands on a white guy if I had the opportunity to, because my mind was caught up on what this is what y'all then did to my people all these years. | ||
| When a white, when a bad thing would happen to a white person, I used to feel like, why do we care? | ||
| They didn't care about us. | ||
| You get what I'm saying, Tim? | ||
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| And like, this is what happens. | ||
| And this is why we see the numbers the way we do. | ||
| In part, the other part of it is culture of violence amongst black people. | ||
| Because one of the reasons why I felt like I was stronger, better, and, you know, most black people think we'll just dust these white boys off. | ||
| And they're nowhere near as strong and violent as we are. | ||
| And that's because, in part, it's true. | ||
| A lot of us grew up in traumatic households, grew up with doubt of father, with anger issues, not understanding how to handle our emotions, in some cases, getting abused. | ||
| Because when I was growing up, they get beat with switches and stenching cords and all kinds of other stuff that stems from these poor black neighborhoods. | ||
| So you grow up with aggressiveness and violence. | ||
| And therefore, you know, when the rubber hit the road, you see what happened where they knocked the woman out, it's stomping the white people out in the middle of the street. | ||
| And Tim, this is just black violence against white. | ||
| Black on black is even worse. | ||
| If you go to my Instagram story right now, I show two videos of young black men just gunning each other down in the middle of the street, broad daylight. | ||
| I mean, no mask, they're not even really running away from the crime, walking up on a brother and just unloading on him. | ||
| It was one situation, and I think it was in Chicago, kid riding his bike, and they call it his ops. | ||
| They jump out of cars by four or five of them. | ||
| They all gunning them down with fully automatic weapons. | ||
| I mean, they standing over him, shooting them, I don't know, 100 times. | ||
| They call it ops, you said. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| This is short for opposition. | ||
| Like, you know, the people who are ops or people who are against you. | ||
| And it's just kind of short for opposition. | ||
| Nick Shirley went to Chicago recently. | ||
| He went to like gangland and he went and he embedded with this rapper and they were saying exactly that. | ||
| I didn't quite understand what it meant. | ||
| I'm from Chicago. | ||
| I've not heard that term. | ||
| And he was saying, we got to be careful. | ||
| We got ops. | ||
| And then I was like, ops? | ||
| What is that? | ||
| You know, here's the crazy thing. | ||
| Like in Chicago is exactly what you were talking about. | ||
| This is exactly what Nick Shirley was filming. | ||
| They're walking around with guns. | ||
| They got switches. | ||
| They got full auto. | ||
| They talk about the gas station is where you go to basically die because they just go there. | ||
| They just shoot and kill each other. | ||
| And it's not even about being in a gang. | ||
| It's just you might, you'll have a beef. | ||
| And so you'll get caught up in it. | ||
| Someone will shoot at somebody else. | ||
| It's crazy that this degree of violence exists. | ||
| And the question is, how do you stop it? | ||
| Yeah, that's a bit, that's the million dollar question. | ||
| That's why no politician is willing to even tackle the issue because it's harder than just a 30-minute fix. | ||
| You cannot fix and unravel what has been infused into the community for decades now. | ||
| You're not going to fix it in 10, 15 years. | ||
| This is a complete overhaul of an entire identity in a group of people. | ||
| I mean, the political leaders won't even say anything about it. | ||
| How many black leaders do you see on both sides of the spectrum that are saying this was wrong that that man stabbed that white girl like that? | ||
| And they're out here protesting. | ||
| You won't see a single black leader doing it, except if they're conservative. | ||
| Black Lives Matter posted a video saying we have a right to violence. | ||
| Man, recapitulate. | ||
| That's the same organization that do nothing for black people. | ||
| And mind you this, they create hatred and cause black people to hate white people and become violent. | ||
| They justify black violence, so therefore more young brothers are incarcerated. | ||
| They glorify drug dealing and George Floyd behavior. | ||
| So more black people are participating in behavior and doing time in prison. | ||
| And then when they get money extracted from the wealthy white class of America and corporations, what do they do with the money? | ||
| They enrich themselves and go buy houses. | ||
| They didn't give no money to George Floyd. | ||
| They gave no money to Michael Brown family. | ||
| They gave no money to Breonna Taylor family. | ||
| They've given no money and made no difference in the black community. | ||
| They just extract it. | ||
| And that's all they do. | ||
| So you're talking about how when you were growing up, you had this resentment towards white people that was like, you were raised with. | ||
| Was there in your community, was there like a positive reinforcement? | ||
| So like with this guy stabbing this young woman, you see that nobody in the initially everyone just looks and they're like, I'm not getting involved, right? | ||
| I've heard stories like that. | ||
| I'm wondering if there's actually even worse than that. | ||
| Is there like a positive reinforcement where someone else who's black and feels that way says good? | ||
| You're saying a positive reinforcement means reinforcing the poor behavior in a black man? | ||
| Let's say that there's like a black neighborhood and some dude just hates a white person. | ||
| He beats them up. | ||
| Are there other black people who are like, it was good that you did that? | ||
| Like they're happy about the black people? | ||
| I mean, I think the overarching approval that you get is why you continue to see this stuff happening. | ||
| I'm telling you, like there are black people. | ||
| Don't get it twisted that all black people are cheering for this. | ||
| Like sane black people like myself and others know that it's an atrocity. | ||
| However, do you think, and you can go look on posts from black Instagram, Shade Room. | ||
| Just look at some posts and see what they say. | ||
| Look at what happened with the young man in Texas that stabbed Camillo Anthony that stabbed a white kid. | ||
| He had a GoFundMe. | ||
| I almost raised a million dollars. | ||
| I think they raised close to a million dollars. | ||
| And then not only did they raise the money, Tim, what were the comments that were said under the raising of the money? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And if you go anywhere now, because it was so egregious what this guy did to this white girl, but go to the black blogs, go to some of these things. | ||
| I guarantee you, I will put my life on it and all of my wealth that you will find people on these posts saying, so what? | ||
| Look at what they did all these years. | ||
| There's one viral post that people are sharing from X where someone said, it said, We even for George Floyd now. | ||
| And it showed a picture of the girl being murdered. | ||
| As if, and it's just, it's insane. | ||
| They, they, you know, Van Jones comes out and says, How dare Charlie Kirk race monger. | ||
| It's like, bro, there's nothing racial about the George Floyd killing. | ||
| It was cops of various ethnic backgrounds and a black man who died. | ||
| And there was no evidence that it was racially motivated, but they decided it was. | ||
| In this instance, dude is on video, and it sounds like he says, I'm being careful, but it does sound like he says, I got that white girl. | ||
| And Van Joe says, How dare you? | ||
| It's nuts. | ||
| And this is what ruins the reputation of most black people because there's a lot of black people out there that say this is an atrocity. | ||
| This is crazy. | ||
| That dude's a lunatic. | ||
| He should go to hell for what he did. | ||
| But the problem is that there's enough black people that are saying the opposite in such an egregious way. | ||
| And there's enough black people who are political leaders and people who are on television. | ||
| I mean, on the episode where he said that the only two, the three dummies on the show, two of them were black. | ||
| And so it seems disproportionate that black people have this sentiment. | ||
| And they're hypocrites because we know, like you said, George Floyd had nothing to do with race. | ||
| Eric Garner had nothing to do with race. | ||
| None of these police shootings had anything to do with race. | ||
| The problem is that there ain't no black cops to kill you. | ||
| So if you're going to die, it's only the white man patrolling your community because y'all don't even apply to be a police officer in many of these cities. | ||
| So it's not a race thing. | ||
| It's a you pulled a gun on a cop thing and you got shot. | ||
| And so when you look at it, you know, with that, with that context, why would a Van Jones say this? | ||
| With because, you know, without being disingenuous, he wants a safe face for the black community, bro. | ||
| There is nothing but black people standing around this man. | ||
| He on the train every day. | ||
| He on the train around all these black people. | ||
| And then when the white girl gets on, he stabs her. | ||
| He didn't stab the person next to him, people behind him. | ||
| He stabbed the white girl, walked away. | ||
| If he was really a violent individual that wanted to see death to people, he'd have stabbed her. | ||
| He'd have stabbed the lady next to him. | ||
| He'd have stabbed a couple of people and ran off the train. | ||
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| It's funny because in Chicago, you know what they do? | ||
| When the crime gets really bad in these black areas, they just bulldoze all the buildings and flatten them and turn it to dirt. | ||
| And that's the Democrat plan. | ||
| 100 years of Democrat political supermajority in Chicago and these areas that are high crime and they have this culture of violence. | ||
| They just say, eventually, you know what? | ||
| Just come, they kick everybody out by force. | ||
| They did this in the Leclerc courts. | ||
| They promised, we're going to tear these house down, rebuild nicer and better homes for all of you. | ||
| Never did. | ||
| It's been 16 years. | ||
| It was a trick because they don't want to deal with the problem. | ||
| They don't want to figure out, you know what it is? | ||
| They can't come out publicly and say, hey, these black neighborhoods have a high violence problem and we want to figure out how to solve it. | ||
| So we're need law enforcement because it's offensive. | ||
| It offends the sensibilities of the modern left, including these uppity white liberals. | ||
| So instead, they announced they're doing beautification and repairs. | ||
| That way everybody can clap and pat each other on the back, bulldoze all the houses, walk away and never fix it. | ||
| And all that does is it makes the problem get worse every day. | ||
| Let's put this in perspective real quick. | ||
| When you look at the homicides, most of the homicides that are committed, a majority of the homicides, which means around, I've seen numbers of 48 to 51% are committed by black people. | ||
| Now, the majority of those people who were killed by black people, the 50%, 98% are black. | ||
| So majority of half of the murders are black people murdering other black people. | ||
| If we put police officers, just say we doubled the number on the South side, you don't even have to be all over Chicago. | ||
| You live in Chicago. | ||
| All of Chicago isn't bad. | ||
| It's just these areas, mostly black areas, that are war zones. | ||
| If you had a cop on every corner, people won't be committing crimes like this. | ||
| It's just opportunistic. | ||
| They know there's no cops there. | ||
| They know they can kill a brother and nobody's going to snitch. | ||
| And the arrest rates and conviction rates of homicides against black people are like 80% of them go unsolved. | ||
| You know what's really weird? | ||
| Is that you're exactly right. | ||
| The majority of the crime, it's intra-racial. | ||
| These young black men, and you know when we say like majority of the murderers are black people, it's actually black, young black men, and they're killing other young black men. | ||
| And for some reason, Chicago being a great example, after 100 years, Democrats couldn't solve the problem. | ||
| But I'll tell you what they're really good at doing, putting planned parenthoods in black neighborhoods. | ||
| And I'm thinking about it, I'm like, man, they should do enact a lot of policies that kill black people and reduce the black population. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Somebody got to say it, Tim. | ||
| You know, and I don't want to hear no black people give you any problems for saying what you said because they should be saying it. | ||
| If they don't want to hear you say it, they should be saying it. | ||
| Why are we advocating for, and black people, disproportionately are represented in abortions in America disproportionately. | ||
| Disproportionately are represented in violence, murder, being murdered, incarceration, poverty, low education. | ||
| And instead of us saying, hey, man, we need to get back to the joint board and stop worrying about white people and start worrying about black people in the inner city, black youth, marriage, all this stuff. | ||
| We need to start getting back to getting into God and the church. | ||
| We started blaming the pointing the finger at the white man. | ||
| We mad at the white man for telling the truth instead of addressing the truth. | ||
| We mad at Trump for wanting to call in the National Guard to end the violence in black cities. | ||
| Instead of them doing it, they mad at Trump for doing it. | ||
| This is what the left does. | ||
| They claim that the right are the racists when they're actually enacting policies that are making everything worse from like the welfare policies to, as I mentioned, keeping like the cops don't go in these areas. | ||
| And these are Democratically appointed police departments in these cities. | ||
| And then the left narrative is that the white people are bad. | ||
| But the funny thing I love about this is you go to every single white WASPI conservative, and they're going to tell you the Supreme Court should be eight. | ||
| It should be Clarence Thomas and eight of his clones. | ||
| It's not an issue of race. | ||
| It's an issue of policy to make the community and people's lives better. | ||
| Well, I want to tell you this story. | ||
| I was in Portland and the Proud Boys were marching with Patriot Prayer. | ||
| Ooh, right-wing, oh, white supremacists, they call them. | ||
| Except the funny thing was, Antifa and the far leftists were all white, and there was a proud boy. | ||
| He was a black man, and they were screaming the N-word at him from across the street. | ||
| And he got pissed. | ||
| And he broke from the group and went to go cross the street. | ||
| He was going to throw fists. | ||
| These were white leftists, Antifa, screaming racial slurs at a black proud boy. | ||
| And then a white proud boy grabbed him and he held his hand and he was like, don't listen to them, brother. | ||
| You're with me. | ||
| We're brothers. | ||
| We're in this together. | ||
| They're trying to rile you up. | ||
| And I'm like, why am I standing next to the quote unquote white supremacists? | ||
| It's a white guy holding hands with a black guy saying, you're my brother. | ||
| Don't listen to the racial slurs. | ||
| And it's the leftists who are screaming racist stuff. | ||
| It's just, it's mind-blowing. | ||
| It's a mind virus, a mind worm that these people got in their mind. | ||
| And it is hypocrisy and also projection. | ||
| They really hate black people and they really have hatred in their heart. | ||
| That's why they project it on other people. | ||
| I've been around Pratt. | ||
| That's why I never say negative things about the Proud Boys because based on my own experience. | ||
| We went to an event. | ||
| It was a black event. | ||
| It was Dinesh D'Souza. | ||
| He had like four black conservatives on a panel at his event and Antifa was there to protest or whatever. | ||
| And you know who was there to protect us and who was there to make sure we were good? | ||
| The Proud Boys. | ||
| And the funny thing is that most of them were black and Hispanic. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like they frame it as if the proud boys are a bunch of white dudes. | ||
| It's like when the proud boys in LA, they were, it was one white guy. | ||
| The rest of them were black and Hispanic. | ||
| And they're framing it as if they're bad. | ||
| I've never seen the Prayer Boys in my personal experience. | ||
| I've never seen them do anything else but be patriots and try to stand up for what's right against these nut jobs. | ||
| And I'll tell you this. | ||
| I went on campus. | ||
| You know, these Black Lives Matter folks, I go on campus at UC Davis, we get attacked. | ||
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| Not one video. | ||
| Of a single black person defending me and I didn't need to defend physically. | ||
| But no, no one's defending me on online and saying no, that's wrong. | ||
| Then white people come in my social media uh, right now, and they call me the n-word on x because they don't like what I say about Israel or whatever the case may be. | ||
| But but, black people cool with that. | ||
| It's cool if a white man call you the end, if you say, if you ain't saying what they want you to say well, that's, that's what's crazy too is in the black community there's racial slurs for people who aren't acting properly politically. | ||
| You know like like, like Clarence Thomas or uh, it was uh, Larry Elder, he made those documentaries. | ||
| Like Uncle Tom, he made those right, I think that was, that was, that was his yeah, executive producer, I think, like I don't know. | ||
| Tell me about that experience miners, like when I grew up in Chicago we had 47th Street. | ||
| Just north of it was all black. | ||
| Just south of it was mixed, but largely like white working class, and our black friends were told that they would get made fun of for acting white. | ||
| It went when they would hang out with us and do things like we play pokemon cards or go skateboarding. | ||
| They were, they were. | ||
| They were told they were acting white and they had to go and stay in their communities, in their neighborhoods. | ||
| You have experiences like that is. | ||
| That is that how it goes brother, this is generational. | ||
| My dad, tell me, told me stories about how it happened to him and i'll give you an example. | ||
| Back in the hood, because my dad grew up in the projects, they used to play what they call sideline kill and that means you play football in the middle of the street, tackle football in the, in the concrete, in the middle of the street. | ||
| So you, you hit between the curb lines and you know, dudes get scraped up and in the hood, that's how you play football. | ||
| Um, and my dad came back. | ||
| Everybody loved him. | ||
| He was a good football player out there. | ||
| He was one of the toughest. | ||
| He came back with his report cards. | ||
| He made all a's in one b and he remember you know he was telling me how he was coming home. | ||
| He was like dang man, I really, you know, i'm I, I I made one b and his friends were looking at him like what you mean? | ||
| You made one be, you think you, you think you white. | ||
| And he said from that point on, because he made one b, they didn't even want to get him on the team, no more, because he was being white. | ||
| It happened to me growing up. | ||
| I was the one bullying, so I know this is real. | ||
| When if if a, if a black dude was listening to rock and roll music, bullied. | ||
| If a black dude was a skater, bullied. | ||
| If a black dude put tucked his shirt in and wore a belt around his waist like a normal person to school, bullied. | ||
| I remember a guy in school, his name was Chris Parham. | ||
| His daddy was a pastor back when we had good black men. | ||
| You know, his daddy was a pastor. | ||
| He would come to school, he would wear his belt, we would make fun of his dad and his dad was so strict he would have to address his dad as sir. | ||
| So he said yes sir, yes sir, we made fun of Chris. | ||
| Chris, Chris was a virgin all the way. | ||
| I don't put his business out there. | ||
| He was a virgin all through high school. | ||
| We made fun of him for being a virgin. | ||
| We made fun of him for the way he talked to his daddy. | ||
| We made fun of his daddy because he was smart. | ||
| He wanted to be like the white man. | ||
| Tim, like black people won't say this publicly for whatever reason. | ||
| Not people like me will, but the ones on the left, they try to act like this don't happen. | ||
| Every black man in America that grew up in an all-black community. | ||
| I'm not saying black people that grew up in mixed communities and white communities. | ||
| You grew up in an all-black community. | ||
| I'll give you another example. | ||
| At my school, Dunbar High School, all black. | ||
| We had one guy who dated a white girl and he committed suicide. | ||
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| Now, I cannot confirm that he did it because he was bullied, but he was bullied. | ||
| And he was the only black person in the school that would dare to date a white woman. | ||
| And when I was growing up, I never dated a white woman, looked at a white woman until I went to college. | ||
| But I was like, you can't bring a white girl, huh? | ||
| What are y'all talking? | ||
| You dating a white girl. | ||
| You a sellout. | ||
| You a coon. | ||
| You an uncle Tom. | ||
| All the same things that you see them say about me today when I was engulfed in the community was the way I thought and the way I treated other black people. | ||
| Dude, we had a comment the other day because I made this point when, you know, we've got people now posting on social media responses attack that saying it's better to be racist than dead. | ||
| Like she should have not wanted to sit next to the black guy or whatever. | ||
| And I'm like, listen, man, if you walk on a train and to your left, there's a black man and to your right, there's a white guy, but the black guy's wearing a suit and like reading the Wall Street Journal and the white guy's scratching and shaking. | ||
| If you decide to sit next to the crazy looking white guy, you're racist. | ||
| That's bad for you, right? | ||
| But someone commented, sure, Tim, like, because I'm mentioning it's a cultural thing, right? | ||
| If I see a guy and military, an officer in a military unit, if I'm in the middle of a riot and there's people smashing things up and I see military guys, National Guard, and they're all black, I'm going to be like, thank God, I'm going to go. | ||
| It's not race. | ||
| It can identify something that I feel safe around. | ||
| Someone actually commented to me. | ||
| It was one of the super chats or one of the Rumble rants. | ||
| They were like, would you really be okay with your daughter bringing home a black man? | ||
| And I'm sitting here thinking like, yo, it's the same argument. | ||
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| My daughter's newborn. | ||
| She's only six months. | ||
| But I'm looking, I'm thinking 20 years in the future, if she comes home with a black man who's an officer in the military or a successful businessman. | ||
| Yeah, I don't care. | ||
| Are you joking? | ||
| If she comes home with some white trash drug addict, I'll be pissed off. | ||
| I don't, it's, it's, it's, it's crazy that people in any capacity want to make this be surface level overtly about race. | ||
| But I will add, as I say this, the problem I think we have in this country is the media, big tech, only allowed us to talk about white supremacy and not about black supremacy or black racism, which any race can be racist. | ||
| And when you cover it up, you perpetuate the problem. | ||
| Honestly, I think they do it on purpose to make the problem persist. | ||
| They are keeping racism on life support. | ||
| A thousand percent, man. | ||
| Any rational person knows we're over that racist stuff. | ||
| You know, before you and I were alive, well before we were alive, black people and white people couldn't drink down the same water fountain. | ||
| You would never see, I wouldn't even believe that was true unless I saw a video of it. | ||
| You can go right now to an all-black neighborhood and the majority of the time, ain't nobody going to mess with you. | ||
| It's really these thugs and these gangsters. | ||
| And you got to think, think about this. | ||
| These dumb, ignorant people who want an excuse to be racist, they will go out on a limb and go, well, I'm around a black person. | ||
| It's like, well, if you're around me, you're going to act like that. | ||
| Quit being stupid. | ||
| I'm going to save it on you, bro. | ||
| And white people and white people's reaction to black people are no different than black people's reaction to black people. | ||
| If I get on a train and I see a brother with a hood on and he looking like he ready to kill somebody, I'm not going to be next to him either. | ||
| And I'm black. | ||
| And the same thing with a white dude. | ||
| You get a white dude that looked like a skinhead or somebody that looked like he's disheveled or he weird. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| I'm like, they just say, let me tell them, it's the same thing with being a cop. | ||
| Most police officers, I would say 90%, because there are some nuts that are in the police department that should probably go to prison. | ||
| And we just haven't caught them yet. | ||
| But it's the same thing with police. | ||
| When I go pull a man over on a traffic stop, if he black and he a decent person, and he, I say, show me your license registration, here you go. | ||
| Nothing is afoot. | ||
| Nobody cares. | ||
| And it's not that I get up there and he black. | ||
| So he must be a threat. | ||
| Because if statistical data shows that more white people shoot cops than black people do. | ||
| And actually, more cops shoot white people than they shoot black people. | ||
| And so we don't go around and be like, because he black, he a threat. | ||
| It's like, no, bro, are you a threat or are you not? | ||
| If you're a white guy and I pull you over and you're not listening to my commands, you are a threat to me. | ||
| And it's the same thing with anything else. | ||
| Like you said about dating. | ||
| As long as your daughter happy and she with a man that's a good man, the color of the skin is so stupid and irrelevant. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| But anybody, Tim, that says now it's better to be racist than to be dead is stupid. | ||
| It's better to be aware and have awareness than to be on your phone. | ||
| And I'm not blaming the girl, but now I think people should pay a little more attention to their surroundings. | ||
| It's better to not be on your phone, taking it for granted that people aren't going to harm you versus you putting your phone down and making sure everything is good. | ||
| And if you see something that's weird, go sit somewhere else. | ||
| It's better to be vigilant than to be dead, not racist. | ||
| That's sad, man. | ||
| You know, the funny thing is you mentioned like before we were born, people couldn't drink out of the same water fountains. | ||
| My mom, because I'm second generation mixed race Asian, she was a kid when it was still illegal. | ||
| This is before the Supreme Court ruling. | ||
| Yo, it was only 1967 that you could actually, not only could you not date or marry like a person of a different race, if you were caught cohabitating, it was illegal. | ||
| It's kind of wild to think. | ||
| What's fascinating, it's the first time in the history of the planet in the United States that we have created a society that is equality under the law for people based on race, ethnicity, or otherwise. | ||
| It is actually the norm for all of human history that people were racist and had laws based on race. | ||
| That's what's really frustrating about how Democrats are approaching these DEI policies and basing everything on race because it's sending us back to a time we already did away with. | ||
| And people are stuck on stupid, to be quite honest, because when you look at the iteration of black and white relationships in America, we actually did an incredible job at getting out of the rut quicker than most would, because you cannot expect, and this is, you got to go back to antiquity. | ||
| You have to go back to putting yourself in the shoes of people back in the day. | ||
| You cannot expect for a group of people, and you're talking the literacy and the life expectancy and stuff. | ||
| It's far different than where we are today. | ||
| That go to the continent of Africa, get primitive people because they're not developed. | ||
| And they don't have a lot of things that the Europeans had at the time. | ||
| So they're viewing them as primitive people that they were sold to them as slaves. | ||
| So these people live as slaves. | ||
| And people expect one day it to snap and both groups just come together like this and kumbaya. | ||
| It's like that took time to go from a general generations of viewing these people as slaves, these people viewing themselves as slaves, to now saying, okay, you're not a slave, but you're free. | ||
| But how does that happen? | ||
| Because people have been slaves. | ||
| There's fear. | ||
| There's prejudice. | ||
| There's propaganda, there's, and then it has to go from there to the next stage, to the next iteration. | ||
| And then now you're free, but it's not kosher, for lack of better terms, to marry because the race mixing was such and such. | ||
| And then we had to get past that point. | ||
| Every society that have ever existed, there will always be an iteration and a time period of dispensation where you have to come out of the stupidity. | ||
| We see it in medicine. | ||
| We see it in race relations. | ||
| We see it even amongst people who are of the same race. | ||
| Go to Africa. | ||
| The acceptance of black people amongst other black people are just as unacceptable when you look at black and white race relations in America. | ||
| I mean, even today, tribes don't talk to each other and people will kill each other from a different tribe. | ||
| Even today, we're past that in America, but we don't get enough credit for it. | ||
| I think we're going to win, man. | ||
| Even with all these problems, I mean, these conversations I think that we're having are good. | ||
| I think that the United States does right so often. | ||
| We've improved and it's been really, really great. | ||
| So I'm going to be optimistic on all this, but I appreciate you joining me, man. | ||
| Where can people find you? | ||
| Yeah, just find me on, and thank you for having me on Tim. | ||
| Oh, bro, anytime. | ||
| You find me on The Officer Tatum. | ||
| You just put The Officer Tatum in any search in any social media platform. | ||
| I'll be there. | ||
| Right on, man. | ||
| Thanks for hanging out. | ||
| We'll see you next time. | ||
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| God bless you, man. | ||
| See you later. | ||
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| That is the great Officer Tatum. | ||
| Big fan. | ||
| He's fantastic. | ||
| And I'm glad to get his take on all of this, especially because he's lived it. | ||
| He's experienced it. | ||
| You've heard it from him straight from you know, straight from him, what it's like growing up in the black community. | ||
| I could only speak somewhat outside of this. | ||
| I know you guys are going to hear me talking about, oh, I'm from Chicago and things like that. | ||
| And it's because Trump's going to send the National Guard because he's sending an ice and because they're telling us that we're wrong. | ||
| I didn't grow up in the community Brandon grew up in, but I grew up in a community affected next to a gang and black community. | ||
| I'm not saying it's the same thing, but there's an overlap. | ||
| And so we have questions about: hey, man, look, I'll put it this way: I don't care if you're left, right, black, white. | ||
| I want you to live better. | ||
| I want your life better. | ||
| And it's sad when he says there are people that hold that chip on their shoulder and say, don't act white, don't succeed. | ||
| I don't know if you guys ever saw that music video, read a book, read a book, read a mother effing book, where deodorant, wear deodorant, you know, all that stuff. | ||
| Buy some land, F spinning rims. | ||
| The message is take power. | ||
| You know what, man? | ||
| If someone out there is racist towards you, whatever, let them think what they want to think. | ||
| They're going to think whatever they want. | ||
| People are going to hate you and there's nothing you can do about it. | ||
| But you could be smart and figure out how to navigate that system and take that power for yourself. | ||
| So to all these people that got, they, you know, they're complaining, saying, don't be white, don't get good grades. | ||
| I'm like, conquer, conquer, man. | ||
| What is the means by which you can take this land over? | ||
| And so what does that mean? | ||
| Get rich. | ||
| Do it in a way that's not going to put you at risk. | ||
| It's not going to hurt other people. | ||
| Succeed. | ||
| Eat good food. | ||
| Then you can have the land and the spinning rims. | ||
| And you deserve it. | ||
| That's hard work. | ||
| So we're going to get you up on your way, my friends, to go hang out with Russell Brand, who's going live right now. | ||
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| Man, this Rumble morning lineup is absolutely fantastic. | ||
| Russell is live right now. | ||
| World War III imminent. | ||
| I certainly hope not. | ||
| You can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast. | ||
| I got a new channel. | ||
| It is Tim Poole on Rumble, and it is youtube.com/slash at Tim Pool. | ||
| Check it out. | ||
| I did a video. | ||
| It's going up in about an hour breaking down Nick Shirley. | ||
| He went and reported from Gangland in Chicago. | ||
| So I talk about that for a little while. | ||
| I'll give you my experiences. | ||
| If you're more interested in that stuff, check it out. | ||
| We're back tonight at 8 p.m. | ||
| Thanks for hanging out. |
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