Sept. 12, 2025 - Tim Pool Daily Show
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| We are currently awaiting the press conference. | ||
| Right now. | ||
| It has been reported this morning. | ||
| Donald Trump stated on Fox News that they that he believes with high certainty that they have Charlie's murderer in custody. | ||
| We don't know for sure exactly. | ||
| Excuse me, sorry. | ||
| I ran in here. | ||
| I got it up as quick as quick as I could. | ||
| Breaking news. | ||
| Charlie Kirk assassination suspect ID'd as 22-year-old Utah man who was turned in by father after Trump reveals his arrest. | ||
| So we are uh currently waiting, and the press conference should begin any moment. | ||
| And uh they just did a few mic checks. | ||
| Uh usually these things start late, but I believe uh this was set for uh 9 a.m. | ||
| Uh however, I think you know, just the other day it was it was particularly late, so we will be here with the breaking story for all of you. | ||
| And uh, you know, what we'll we'll have this to today's Friday, for those that aren't familiar, we do the Culture War podcast. | ||
| We'll be having a debate uh starting at 11 a.m. about uh uh psych psychology, psychiatry, mental illness, and political violence. | ||
| But uh principally political violence, it's expansion, the mental state of individuals. | ||
| We have a few doctors who will be joining us uh as well as Alex Stein uh uh on this issue and we'll be discussing kind of the underlying issues affecting this country and and what is creating this this bifurcation. | ||
| Uh we'll read for you the news from the New York Post while we wait this press conference. | ||
| And uh I want to make sure we don't miss this uh when it starts, but the New York Post reports President Trump announced early Friday that a suspect for Charlie Kirk's assassination was turned in by his father, with law enforcement sources telling the Post it is a 22-year-old Utah local, Tyler Robinson. | ||
| I think with a high degree of certainty, we have him, Trump said on Fox & Friends. | ||
| Somebody who was very close to him turned him in, the president said, then revealing it was the suspect's dad who relayed it through a minister who was involved with law enforcement. | ||
| I hope he's going to be found guilty and I hope he gets the death penalty. | ||
| What he did, Charlie Kirk was the finest person and he didn't deserve this. | ||
| Trump did not ID the suspect, however, law enforcement sources told The Post it was Robinson, who lives in Utah. | ||
| Investigators have scheduled a public update for later this morning. | ||
| The suspect was allegedly believed to have fired a single shot from an elevated position about 200 yards from the tent where Kirk was seated. | ||
| I believe the actual number is about 150. | ||
| It was 455 feet. | ||
| Initial reports described the suspect as a gunman wearing jeans, a black shirt and black vest perched with a long rifle atop a building east of the school library. | ||
| Now, TMZ has released a video showing what appears to be this man limping down a street. | ||
| And many people believe the limping was due to the weapon in his in his jeans. | ||
| And so he can't really bend his leg all that much. | ||
| Yeah, OK. | ||
| OK, New York Post. | ||
| Kirk, the founder of Turning Point USA and a father of two had just answered a question from an audience member about mass shootings committed by transgender people at the outdoor event on campus in Oram when he was hit by a single blast of gunfire. | ||
| The conservative influencer jerked back and appeared to recoil in pain and grab at his neck as the crack of a single gunshot rang out. | ||
| I didn't watch, Trump told Fox News. | ||
| I heard about it. | ||
| I would have never made a good doctor, let me put it that way. | ||
| I mean, I heard enough. | ||
| I didn't want to watch it. | ||
| I didn't want to remember Charlie that way. | ||
| It's rough. | ||
| And uh there's there's images here of the uh we'll we'll unblurt for this. | ||
| They had an image of uh of the incident. | ||
| I didn't want to show it. | ||
| This was the search. | ||
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I might be here for course. | |
| Um Cash Patel announced they had someone in custody. | ||
| There's a reward of 100,000. | ||
| So to those that turned him in, I hope they get their uh their reward. | ||
| The great and even legendary Charlie Kirk is dead. | ||
| No one understands or had the heart of the youth in the United States of America better than Charlie. | ||
| So we're waiting for this uh this pre press conference right now, and uh appreciate all you guys tuning in. | ||
| Uh subscribe, follow for updates. | ||
| I uh when I was younger, I've been on the internet my whole life. | ||
| I've seen a lot of really messed up stuff on the internet. | ||
| I'm sure many of you have. | ||
| From disgusting jokes to lewd acts, we've we've all seen it. | ||
| And and growing up with this right in front of you, and I gotta admit it's much worse today than it was when I was a kid, because when I say this, there was like five websites. | ||
| But I I I mean more so when I was 15, 16, had more free reign online. | ||
| Uh admittedly I've been using the internet since I was a real little kid, but it's different back then. | ||
| All right, looks like what do you have? | ||
| A mic check here. | ||
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Mic check, one, two, three, called it. | |
| One, two, three, four, five, six. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So uh there have been many videos in my uh life that were available on the internet that were brutal. | ||
| And that so many people would say they wouldn't watch it. | ||
| And this was war footage, drone strikes. | ||
| One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, just heinous acts of violence. | ||
| And I I always said to myself, I'm gonna watch these videos. | ||
| This is the world. | ||
| These things happen. | ||
| I'm not gonna pretend like they don't. | ||
| I'm not gonna cover it up and not look at it. | ||
| Because this stuff does happen. | ||
| And you have to be aware of the worst, to be grateful for where we are in the United States and what we have, but to also understand what to expect. | ||
| When you are in a fire, do you know how to act? | ||
| Most people don't. | ||
| When you are lost, do you know how to act? | ||
| Chance favors the prepared. | ||
| There are many people. | ||
| Okay, so they're pushing it back. | ||
| It's gonna be half an hour. | ||
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Uh we'll do another check about 15. | |
| Keep going. | ||
| One, two, three, four, five. | ||
| All right, so they say they say it's gonna be 9 30. | ||
| So I'll stick with you. | ||
| That's good. | ||
| We can follow the news and I can give you some updates, but I'll just finish what I was saying. | ||
| My point is my my mentality as a young man before going out into confident crisis as a teenager, was that when these videos were going viral, there were some that I won't describe, but their murders, there's violence, was not to hide from the heinous and vile acts that people commit, but to understand it and be strong. | ||
| And there are people that I know that couldn't and don't want to, and I don't blame them. | ||
| With that being said, it is something entirely different when it's someone you know and has uh uh graced your presence on numerous occasions and reached their neck out for you, moved mountains for you, and given you tremendous things, asking for nothing in return. | ||
| And so it was it was extremely difficult. | ||
| And it has been extremely difficult for me and our crew to report on and and work on this story. | ||
| And uh it's just you know, I saw this really funny meme a while ago. | ||
| And it was uh you may have seen it. | ||
| I'm gonna butcher it, but it was a really funny post on 4chan where a guy said that uh he's like a fat home body, doesn't do anything. | ||
| He decided one day that he was gonna go to the gym and improve himself, and he shows up to the gym, limp wrested and out of shape, overweight, and he looks at a rack of weights and he grabs them and he doesn't know what he's doing when some Chad walks up, super ripped, and says, Hey buddy, let me let me teach you how to use these. | ||
| good to see you. | ||
| And starts explaining how to how to lift the weights. | ||
| Tells him, I want you to do this. | ||
| I want with without asking, hey man, do these things, do these things, I'll be here. | ||
| And uh I'm gonna see you tomorrow, right for leg day. | ||
| And this dude responds with, is this what it is like to have a king? | ||
| My liege. | ||
| And uh it's funny, the point is that's seriously to have a king. | ||
| But to be a young man and to have someone approach you when you don't know where to go or what to do, but you want to do better. | ||
| And there is someone who seems to have everything, this Chad guy, he's tall, he's handsome, he's ripped, he didn't need to waste time with you, and he takes time out of his day, he encourages you, teaches you, and says, I'm gonna see you tomorrow, right? | ||
| You're gonna be here. | ||
| Because all he wanted was for you to be better. | ||
| That's the kind of person that Charlie was. | ||
| He did this for us, he did this for other people who work here, other vendors and clients and contractors. | ||
| He did it for my friends, and I think that's why everybody was so excuse me, devastated by this. | ||
| Because he was that guy that seemed to have it all successful show, millions of followers. | ||
| TP USA raised, I think in 2023, 81 million dollars. | ||
| This dude, there's pictures of him flying on private jets, and yet he would take time out of his day, see you, and say, What can I do to help you right now? | ||
| Very Christian-like, epitomizing, making uh exemplifying what that message is supposed to be. | ||
| And for me, my attitude was just like at first, I why is this guy helping me? | ||
| Like what you know, I'll I'll say this. | ||
| I know that we have a big show. | ||
| I know I have a lot of followers, but I don't have the biggest show. | ||
| And it always feels like a struggle every day. | ||
| New charts come out, uh channels are growing, people are getting interviews, you work hard, you don't get to where you need to be, but you work hard every single day. | ||
| And uh often the things that we do here at Timcast, and this is this is true. | ||
| I mean, I get it, I understand that it's a big show. | ||
| I'm not gonna pretend like it's not, but it's fascinating when we we do things and they're overlooked. | ||
| To keep it as simple as possible, maybe a little vain, but to move remove it from politics. | ||
| When we when we make we we've made steps in the cultural direction where we've made music, and they intentionally ignore us, won't talk about us, even when you know, we've had top-trending songs on YouTube. | ||
| My point ultimately is not to mention these extraneous activities or anything, but to point out that for me, most of the time, it feels like we are sisyphus at this company and in the work that we do, ever pushing up a boulder, it is harder and harder and tiring to push up this mountain. | ||
| The only time I never felt that way was with Turning Point and Charlie, and I genuinely 100% mean this, when they invited us, it felt like this was a moment where as we push up this boulder every day, and I work as hard as I can to my right. | ||
| Charlie said, Take a break, brother, I got you. | ||
| And he and his crew at Turning Point decided to push that boulder for us, and I looked around, wondering why he would do that. | ||
| The lengths they that the turning point crew and Charlie went to to make sure that we could be a part of his event, his biggest event in politics in the country at this massive convention center with tens of thousands of people. | ||
| He said, We're gonna move mountains to make sure you can be a part of this. | ||
| And I and I thought to myself, I know really. | ||
| And and I understand, some might say, Tim, you have a big show. | ||
| No, I get that, but I can't even begin to describe the lengths that his his team went to to move the mountains to get us. | ||
| I don't understand. | ||
| Bringing our our staff out from DC to Arizona is not an easy feat. | ||
| It is not an easy feat. | ||
| And that's why I didn't think it was really gonna be possible. | ||
| But he made it possible three years. | ||
| Charlie made sure. | ||
| And that's what I'm saying. | ||
| When we've done these trips, we've traveled, it really has always just felt like we're pushing a boulder uphill. | ||
| And it never ends, and it is stressful and it is difficult. | ||
| And uh making sure people have uh aren't working too hard. | ||
| We you know, I know a lot of people love their jobs here, but we ought to make sure they get they get breaks. | ||
| And then there's there's Charlie and his crew at turning point pushing that boulder for us to make this happen and giving us that break. | ||
| Because I didn't think we were gonna make it. | ||
| And he did, and and and and that's how many people felt. | ||
| It was Charlie, with all the reasons in the world to say to you with all due respect, I have I have very little time, thank you and have a nice day. | ||
| He wouldn't do that. | ||
| He would say, Where do you need me? | ||
| Last year at Turning Point on stage, we had Charlie Kirk on, but only for I believe it was like the first hour or so. | ||
| We were told Charlie was very, very busy, he was having very important meetings, and everything was very stressful for him, trying to run this event. | ||
| Excuse me. | ||
| And we said, Okay, no problem. | ||
| We understand. | ||
| We'll we'll find someone who can come on the show instead. | ||
| Don't worry about it. | ||
| We appreciate what you've done for us. | ||
| And then Charlie said, I'm gonna make it. | ||
| Don't worry, I'm gonna make it. | ||
| And he came on the show with all due respect to Ian very was very much in uh irritates Charlie, but he still has him on the stage. | ||
| Ian, who fell off the stage the first year we were there. | ||
| We didn't know if Charlie was gonna be able to make it because he's such a busy guy. | ||
| And he still took time out of his day to come on stage and come on our show, come on my show, helping make my show bigger. | ||
| That's what he always did. | ||
| So, as we're waiting for this press conference, yo, I will just say I I when they announced they were doing this press conference. | ||
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I set everything up as fast as I possibly could. | |
| Uh and uh now we've got we've got some time to kill. | ||
| I I do want to I do want to show you a clip. | ||
| Um I want to pull up a clip of Benny Johnson talking to Cuomo. | ||
| And I want to highlight some of the things that are being said by uh let me see if I can find this post by the left. | ||
| Jimmy Kimmel saying both sides. | ||
| Vile things being said on both sides. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Let me um let me see if I can find this post from Benny. | ||
| Benny, this is uh this was this was uh you he Benny pushed back on uh let's see what we have here. | ||
| I'm gonna pull this up. | ||
| Benny retweeted this, it's on his feed, and this exemplifies exactly what I'm saying. | ||
| From political polls. | ||
| Seventy-seven percent of Republicans believe it is always unacceptable to feel joy at the death of someone they oppose while only 38% of Democrats share this view. | ||
| And that's exactly what I said yesterday. | ||
| I said, was it 80, 20, 20, 80? | ||
| One, two, three, another mic check. | ||
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Okay. | |
| I want to keep this audio running. | ||
| I don't want to miss this press conference. | ||
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One, two, three. | |
| I was talking about this this morning with my wife. | ||
| Six, seven, eight, Republicans, ten, conservatives, Joe Rogan, centrists, never gloat over the death of their political enemies. | ||
| And you know, I say never, but maybe it's um sometimes, nothing's absolute, right? | ||
| I'm I'm not going to call these some some of these people out. | ||
| I have friends who live in Los Angeles. | ||
| They're prominent actors in Hollywood who are posting that Charlie got what he wanted. | ||
| And I and I can't believe it. | ||
| And these people know they know me. | ||
| They they they they know we are friends on Facebook. | ||
| They know they follow me, I follow them. | ||
| And to have the the the sheer will power to post that knowing I will see it. | ||
| They may as well have just spat in my face. | ||
| And I've messaged some of them. | ||
| They are posting lies about Charlie and smearing his good name. | ||
| They are pushing things out of context. | ||
| They are they are putting out fake quotes. | ||
| They are manipulating what Charlie said to make it seem like he was evil or wrong. | ||
| They are running these threads saying Charlie was had no intention of debating. | ||
| He was just trying to get clips to trick people. | ||
| Charlie, Charlie debated at Oxford Union. | ||
| Charlie would debate every the people who are allowed to come to that mic was because anyone was allowed to speak with Charlie. | ||
| More mic checks, more mic checks. | ||
| I want to find uh this post. | ||
| Uh Benny had appeared on News Nation. | ||
| And I'll I'll play this for you as we wait for this press conference. | ||
| And uh we played it last night, but I'll play it again. | ||
| I don't really care how we got here so much. | ||
| There is a lot of blame to go around. | ||
| I do not see you guys as victims. | ||
| You give as good as you get. | ||
| Uh there is a I do not see you guys as victims. | ||
| You give as good as you get. | ||
| Never forget that's what he said. | ||
| I want to play this post from Benny for you. | ||
| A lot of anger, there is a lot of exaggeration, it is all hate for profit on the fringe of this battling uh binary political system. | ||
| My question is I am I am what? | ||
| Charlie Kirk has never advocated Charlie Kirk has never advocated violence ever. | ||
| Charlie Kirk was only nonviolent, a nonviolent, peaceful debater. | ||
| He went into places where he knew he was hated in order to engage. | ||
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I never I agree with people. | |
| You said Cuomo, you're not victims, you give as good as you get. | ||
| Now you agree. | ||
| He was not about violence. | ||
| Oh, hold on. | ||
| It's not Chris. | ||
| Hold on, I'm not talking about it with Charlie. | ||
| Benny, don't play games with me. | ||
| No, don't play games with me, Chris. | ||
| You said you are not victims, you give as good as you get. | ||
| Charlie never. | ||
| You know what was one of the most shockingly offensive things to me? | ||
| Is that they're claiming, I see these posts from these liberals I know. | ||
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I can't believe it. | |
| Saying that he got what he deserved, he got what he wanted, it's the world he wanted, so be it. | ||
| And don't get me wrong, there's a handful of liberals that I know and leftists who are saying stop to the to other people. | ||
| And and and as Num Chomsky had pointed out a while ago, to the left, when you enter the arena of violence, the most brutal guy wins, and that's not us. | ||
| Us is in the left. | ||
| There are there is a video. | ||
| It got recommended to me on Instagram of Charlie. | ||
| And a black woman and her baby come to the microphone to ask him about uh, you know, I think it was religion. | ||
| And she she mentions her child, and Charlie smiles and says, It's a your child is a gift from God. | ||
| This was a black woman with a black child. | ||
| Charlie didn't care about that. | ||
| Charlie did not care the race of this woman. | ||
| Charlie was not a racist. | ||
| He said he wanted to live in a country that was race neutral. | ||
| He wanted merit. | ||
| He wanted ideas. | ||
| And the things they are saying about this man to justify the violence. | ||
| As we see now with this you with this you gov poll, there's the data for you. | ||
| They're saying he's he's uh justified slavery. | ||
| They're saying that he uh claimed black women have no brain power. | ||
| None of that is true. | ||
| It's never happened. | ||
| They're running one lie right now where they claim that Charlie Kirk said that shootings are the price we pay for gun rights or something, which is not at all the idea conveyed by Charlie. | ||
| Charlie Kirk's in context statement on school shootings was they are tragic, unfortunate, must be stopped, but we cannot stop bad people from getting access to weapons even if we ban them. | ||
| So these things are going to happen, and it is a it is a price we pay to ensure that we have the right to protect ourselves. | ||
| The greater context of his statement was let good people be armed because bad people always will be. | ||
| The inverse to his statement is in a world where we try to ban guns, there will still be school shootings. | ||
| They strip his statements of their context because they are demons who gloat over the over death. | ||
| They are selling t-shirts, mocking his death and mocking his willingness to debate. | ||
| An image that I will I will not share. | ||
| A cartoon someone drew, and are selling on t-shirts and And putting up on poster boards of blood pouring from his neck, and it says debate this. | ||
| And what is the message they are putting up when they say this? | ||
| These are not bots. | ||
| These are not Chinese interference campaigns. | ||
| This is not Russia. | ||
| These are quite literally American college students and individuals online selling t-shirts. | ||
| They are saying when you want to debate, they'll put a bullet in your neck. | ||
| So it and it's in tears, my friend, my friends. | ||
| There are other liberals saying, stop claiming Charlie actually sought debate. | ||
| He was actually trying to manipulate people to in bad faith. | ||
| See, these are the tears of lies. | ||
| The mainstream liberals that are saying things like, you know, and and and Hassan is fanning the flames, insane. | ||
| I read his interview in Politico. | ||
| I've seen the things he's tweeted, absolutely fanning the flames. | ||
| They're saying Charlie Kirk didn't want a real debate. | ||
| Charlie Kirk wanted to debate more than any of us. | ||
| That's what he built everything around. | ||
| He debated. | ||
| I've got our autographed poster with Vouch. | ||
| Vosh, whatever, Thomson. | ||
| We struggle to bring liberals on these shows. | ||
| The culture where we have a hard time. | ||
| You'll notice when we do the culture war debates on Friday or at the live venues, you may say, who's this liberal guy? | ||
| Because prominent leftists, progressives, and liberals will not debate. | ||
| And they're threatening us now with these images saying, debate this. | ||
| And it's and it's and it's depicting the murder of Charlie. | ||
| They then aren't so now you have these liberals. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| I didn't want to go here. | ||
| I wanted to say, like, let's let's hope the liberals summer down. | ||
| Hassan was shocked at first, saying, you know, this is bad. | ||
| Now he's saying, look what the right is doing. | ||
| Look what the right is saying, just fanning the flames. | ||
| Charlie wasn't a debater. | ||
| He was just trying to use tactics to make people look bad. | ||
| So I'm seeing a variety of positions. | ||
| Least of which among the liberals are prominent Democrats like Obama saying, you know, thoughts and prayers, we've, you know, we're here for the Kirk family. | ||
| Very nice messages. | ||
| But that's few and far between. | ||
| Mostly what I'm seeing online, which is painful for me to read, on Facebook. | ||
| Most of the people who follow me are center-left or progressive, occupy Wall Street types. | ||
| And I can see their messages. | ||
| And many of them are saying this is bad, and I respect that and I'm glad. | ||
| Many of them, I would say the but many does not mean most or a lot. | ||
| It's it's not enough. | ||
| I would say mostly what I see are comments from people saying this is what Charlie wanted. | ||
| He got what he was fighting for. | ||
| He never advocated for this. | ||
| Charlie did not advocate for people to murder anybody. | ||
| He did not advocate for violence. | ||
| He did not say people should face these things. | ||
| Never. | ||
| It's a lie. | ||
| I'm sick and tired of it. | ||
| What is that? | ||
| Left wingers, liberals. | ||
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Whoa. | |
| I have no idea why that just started autoplaying. | ||
| But I can't play that one just yet because that is a video of Hassan Piker calling for the death of conservatives. | ||
| And uh some say he's being hyperbolic, and I'm just like, bro. | ||
| Anyway, I'll talk about that in quick second. | ||
| There's a reason why I have it pulled up, but I can't play the audio, not on YouTube. | ||
| Most of what I see are liberals justifying the violence. | ||
| The next thing that I'm seeing are liber are progressives and leftists calling for more. | ||
| I saw one post where the person said that they were uh a revolutionary leftist and that they were glad it's happening and they want more. | ||
| There are videos popping up. | ||
| One guy says, your next, right? | ||
| A pun. | ||
| Your next, your next. | ||
| I'm seeing a lot of conspiracy theories, claiming that it was a professional hit, which is stupid. | ||
| This it's it's fascinating how little people know, even people on the right, how little they understand and little they know about guns, considering how little I know. | ||
| But I can tell you this from my personal experience, my immediate thought was what? | ||
| 150 yards? | ||
| I've seen children hit 100% accuracy. | ||
| 15 rounds, every target. | ||
| Move it like, not moving targets, but you know, at the range, a bunch of different targets. | ||
| I have seen a 12-year-old sitting down with a bolt action rifle make every hit at you know a hundred or so yards. | ||
| So I'm like, this is not considered to be a crazy shot. | ||
| And there are people who are saying, yeah, but like he was under pressure, you know, on a rooftop, there's wind, and I'm like, listen. | ||
| I looked a couple different sources, because I'm not an expert. | ||
| And I've asked a few experts with real training. | ||
| What is the degree of training required for a person to make a shot at 150 yards with a bolt action rifle with a scoped with uh uh properly zeroed at 100 yards? | ||
| Everyone says the same thing. | ||
| A couple hours, I guess. | ||
| Couple hours. | ||
| I looked up training sites and analysis, and they all basically say the average person with about one to two hours training will have tremendous accuracy at a hundred to two hundred yards within an hour or two. | ||
| But then they say, yeah, but he was nervous and under pressure and all that. | ||
| So maybe he had a month of training. | ||
| Not just that. | ||
| What what what do people pop? | ||
| M AOI inhibitors or whatever to calm the nerves? | ||
| People before public speaking will take a pill that settles them down. | ||
| Spare me. | ||
| That's the next thing I'm seeing from liberals. | ||
| There's no way this was a leftist. | ||
| This is no way it was motivated by left ideology. | ||
| There's no way, because this was professional. | ||
| Now, what I will say is the New York Times is claiming that law enforcement is walking back the claims that the bullets had trans or anti-fascist ideology inscribed on them, that they may have been misinterpreted. | ||
| Perhaps it had been confirmed by multiple sources, and the leaked DOJ memo by Steven Crowder, for which he got subpoenaed. | ||
| Sounds real. | ||
| That they found a weapon and the bullets had engraved on them trans or anti-fascist ideology. | ||
| That still could mean they are wrong. | ||
| Not that Crowder's wrong, but that these agents who recovered the weapon misinterpreted them. | ||
| However, just saying some of one official says it could be misinterpreted, does not reject or deny. | ||
| With this suspect suspect in custody, I'm looking uh forward to learning more in this press conference in the coming few minutes. | ||
| I imagine they're going to be late, but uh I'm I'm looking forward to to hearing more from this about this. | ||
| And uh maybe it turns out this guy has some other ideology. | ||
| Maybe he's anti-Israel. | ||
| It's possible. | ||
| Charlie Kirk was one of the most prominent and important pro-Israel voices in this country because he was speaking to young people. | ||
| That's why it's fascinating. | ||
| You see the other people claiming Israel did it. | ||
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And I'm like, come on, bro. | |
| Charlie Kirk was holding events where he brought in a bunch of young men to explain to them why he supports Israel and why they shouldn't hate Jews. | ||
| And you mean to tell me that you think Israel took him out for that reason? | ||
| And they're sharing these videos, they're so laughably absurd. | ||
| Charlie was talking to Ben Shapiro and he said, How do you respond to people that are saying it's a genocide? | ||
| And they're like, whoa, look, whoa, Charlie said Charlie was asking a normal question that Ben Shapiro has no problem answering. | ||
| And the reason for asking the question is to give a pro-Israel voice an opportunity to refute the claims. | ||
| It was not evidence of Charlie being anti-Israel. | ||
| They loved the guy. | ||
| Ridiculous conspiracy theories. | ||
| So while we're waiting for this press conference, I just want to make sure I can pull up any – Yeah, there's a post someone made. | ||
| On Wikipedia, George Floyd is murdered. | ||
| Irina Zarutska is killed, and Charlie Kirk was shot. | ||
| These people are evil. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| I uh I I always try to make that assessment. | ||
| I I wake up, I look I think to myself, is there really a both sides to this? | ||
| And every honest assessment is no, and don't take my word for it, this is what we get. | ||
| Now, I I want I want I want to I want to say this about these polls, right? | ||
| 70% of 70% of Republicans say it's unacceptable. | ||
| Democrats don't. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| That's terrifying. | ||
| 38% of Democrats share this view. | ||
| 38% of Democrats, 53% of independents, and 77% of Republicans say that it is always unacceptable. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| And uh to be fair, I'll make sure he give you the numbers. | ||
| 18% of Democrats are not sure. | ||
| Five percent of Republicans are not sure. | ||
| Four percent of Dems think it's always acceptable. | ||
| Independents and Republicans, only 2% think so. | ||
| 7% of Democrats think it's usually acceptable. | ||
| That means when we break the numbers down, 11% of Democrats polled believe that at some point it's acceptable to celebrate the death of an opponent, where six percent, so around twice as many, though it is a smaller number. | ||
| 70 percent believe that it is always unacceptable, or I'm sorry, it is in some in some instances unacceptable, either always or usually, whereas 89% of Republicans. | ||
| The way they frame this by saying 30 to 77 makes it seem like most Democrats would support this. | ||
| 70% of Democrats say usually or always unacceptable. | ||
| But of those who think it's more acceptable, Democrats have the numbers. | ||
| They do. | ||
| So when they claim it's coming from both sides, here's what's actually happening. | ||
| Are there fringe right wing lunatics or right-aligned crazy people? | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| Of course there are. | ||
| And Cuomo sees them. | ||
| And are there left? | ||
| Yes, of course there are, and we see them too. | ||
| And then instead of doing a breakdown of the scale, size, impact, Cuomo just says, guess it's both sides. | ||
| So if you have ten people to your right, and they're saying awful things, and you have a thousand people to your left, you can only hear so much. | ||
| And people like Cuomo goes, both sides are yelling at me. | ||
| Now, I said it's not ten to a thousand, one to a hundred. | ||
| My point is, I have a video that I can't play of Hassan Piker. | ||
| I I I I would agree a bit of it's hyperbole, saying to kill stab conservatives, people on the right. | ||
| There are other videos where he's outright telling people to go and murder other people. | ||
| That is not hyperbole. | ||
| He has said some very awful things. | ||
| Sam Hyde, with with all due respect to Sam Hyde, because I do think he's he's a funny guy, I think he's very smart. | ||
| I think he's uh uh I think he's a smart guy, and I think I probably agree with him on a lot of things. | ||
| But he had an event, said into a microphone that he was going to kill Hassan Piker. | ||
| And I said, that's not okay. | ||
| The man, the the man there says as a joke, right? | ||
| And he says, No, in real life, I'm coming to your house, Hassan. | ||
| And people were laughing. | ||
| And I said, that's not okay. | ||
| Like, I'm sorry, like this is not a joke. | ||
| Hassan's going to have to have a security assessment, he's gonna spend an insane amount of money. | ||
| He's gonna have to probably leave his home right now. | ||
| At the same time, it's not about the feelings of Hassan Piker. | ||
| It's about the fact that there are people on the left who are fans of Hassan, as one of the biggest streamers in the country, in the world, who are sitting there terrified seeing a sweaty, angry Sam Hyde, not really angry, but you know, putting on a performance, saying he was going to kill Hassan, and it's not a joke. | ||
| And what do you think that that leftist thought? | ||
| He went to his friends, showed everyone, dude, they're gonna kill Hassan, man. | ||
| Then when they say, see, Charlie wants you dead, they're gonna show that video of Sam Hyde, and they're gonna use it as evidence the right is trying to kill people. | ||
| And people said, Sam's joking. | ||
| I said, I don't care if he's joking, man. | ||
| And again, I say this with respect to Sam Hyde because I he's a funny guy, he's a smart guy. | ||
| I respect a lot of the stuff that he does. | ||
| Um but I find that to be overline and inappropriate. | ||
| I've said it every single time. | ||
| We have we have shut down episodes of IRL because people on the show have used innuendo or have made statements that would either inadvertently or directly put some push someone to violence. | ||
| Not just because it's against the rules, but also because we we don't want that kind of rhetoric. | ||
| Press conference should be starting at any moment, so I do have it pulled up. | ||
| We're just waiting. | ||
| With all that being said, when Hassan Piker goes on his show and says he wants to see leftists and liberals take a knife, and I'm not going to describe what he explains next, but let's just say he calls for the death of people in public, and the response is he's just being hyperbolic. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| There is a line. | ||
| And that line is when you say, Oh, won't someone rid me of this priest, we that that's the line, right? | ||
| Because the concern is we understand your just venting when you say, Oh, won't someone rid me of this priest? | ||
| That's not a call for violence. | ||
| But it is the line. | ||
| Why? | ||
| As the story goes. | ||
| Uh, I don't know, you guys know the story better than I, but you know, the king said that, and then two of his knights went out and they killed a priest, and then they were like, You told them to do it. | ||
| It's like, no, I didn't. | ||
| I was just making, I was ex- I was just making an expression. | ||
| I didn't mean it. | ||
| You see, in that regard, saying things like that can result in violence. | ||
| But we don't say, you're not allowed to say something like, Oh, won't someone rid me of of this priest? | ||
| Be careful when you do. | ||
| That's the point we're making. | ||
| We're not gonna ban you. | ||
| We're gonna say, hey man, tone it down a little bit, because that's that's where we're getting close to the line, right? | ||
| Hassan didn't say, Oh, won't someone rid me of this priest? | ||
| He said, Go do thing. | ||
| Literally, in the video, he says, go and take lives. | ||
| He says that. | ||
| And they go, he's being hyperbolic. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Bro, it's one thing if Hassan was literally like, man, these landlords, these right wingers. | ||
| I wish they would stop. | ||
| Won't anyone do anything? | ||
| If he said something like that, I'd be like, You're allowed to express that opinion. | ||
| It's a bad one. | ||
| You're getting dangerously close, but that's not even what he did. | ||
| I can't I cannot play the video of what Hassan said. | ||
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| Well, YouTube would ban it. | ||
| Twitch won't, because they agree. | ||
| We're waiting for this press conference any minute right now. | ||
| I see a comment. | ||
| Someone said, Sam Hyde is a comedian, it's a joke. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Except he said it's not a joke. | ||
| And you say, Yeah, but that was a joke too. | ||
| But leftists don't know. | ||
| And the powerful and prominent leftists who are smart enough to understand don't care. | ||
| And there is going to be millions of people on the left. | ||
| Well, to be fair, I think the actual fringe violent is much smaller than that. | ||
| But they're sitting in their room watching this video of Sam beat red screaming into a microphone, he is going to kill Hassan. | ||
| And you go, he's just joking. | ||
| Those people don't know and don't care. | ||
| And they saw that and they said, Oh my God, this crazy white supremacist wants to kill Hassan. | ||
| So what do they do? | ||
| They go to their friends and say, guys, buy guns, arm up. | ||
| Look at what this guy said. | ||
| That's my point. | ||
| Now Hassan's substantially worse saying the things that he said. | ||
| I get that those this was a performance on a stage on camera, but it crossed the line. | ||
| And I said that with respect to Sam Hyde. | ||
| I've seen a lot of things that he's done. | ||
| I respect a lot of what he's done. | ||
| He's a smart guy. | ||
| But that I will say crosses the line. | ||
| I think Hassan is worse. | ||
| Following this, Hassan, he did an interview on Politico, and he said Charlie Kirk was a bad faith debater. | ||
| He's tweeting up a storm saying, look what the right is doing, fanning the flames. | ||
| And that was it for me. | ||
| We'll see, we two-minute warning maybe. | ||
| Because we're minute, we're four minutes. | ||
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One, two, three, four, five, six. | |
| We're hoping to get at least a three minute warning when they start walking, but they don't got that yet. | ||
| So one, two, three, four, five, six, seven. | ||
| Everybody good? | ||
| One, two, three, four, five, two, three, three. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So he says, they'll give us a three minute warning. | ||
| I'm not I'm not playing these games with people who are saying things like it was a joke. | ||
| Why can't you take a joke? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Hassan was joking. | ||
| When Hassan said, you gotta take a knife, walk up to conservatives, and then he explains in great detail how to end them. | ||
| Just joking. | ||
| Don't get mad about it. | ||
| You know, someone took him seriously. | ||
| Hassan Piker said on his show, and I have the video. | ||
| At these debates, why won't leftists take a knife, go up to the conservative, and then he explains in great detail what I will not repeat. | ||
| He says, why won't they do it? | ||
| Well, guess what? | ||
| Someone did just the other day. | ||
| And now a great leader, a young father, a friend, is dead. | ||
| Because people listen to Hassan Piker, and other people think it's fine when the rhetoric reaches that level. | ||
| I'm not playing that game. | ||
| I'm not gonna sit here and pretend that Sam is is the worst of the worst. | ||
| He's certainly not. | ||
| I'm highlighting a joke that I understand he made that crossed the line. | ||
| When he said, I am going to go do this thing, and was asked as a joke, not as a joke in real life. | ||
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Um we will try to give at least a five minute warning on that, but uh we'll do our best on that. | |
| So we're still waiting, but I'll stay I'll stay live until we get this. | ||
| I I you know I I rushed to get this up, I didn't realize it was gonna take them as long, but you know, these things take some time, but this is important. | ||
| I'm not gonna I'm not gonna sit here and play games just because I I think the left is more likely to be at fault, most of these cases, that they that they lie about their stats, that they use underhanded tactics, I think all of these things, and I believe, based on a reasonable assessment of the data and the facts and the truth and the reporting, it's discernible to anybody who cares to pay attention. | ||
| They claim the right is the originator of the violence. | ||
| Then you take a look at the ADL and you can see that they label everything right wing, white supremacist, right wing, anti-government, right-way, wait, anti-government is right wing? | ||
| Yup. | ||
| That means if a far leftist goes out and says, burn the government or whatever, they're gonna put in the right wing category. | ||
| They also have a category called right wing other. | ||
| I think all of this is wrong. | ||
| I do not want any of this escalate. | ||
| And my point is this. | ||
| The proof is in this video, and and in so many other statements, that when jokes are made about killing the left, we condemn them and say, hey man, Benny Johnson made a great point in that video. | ||
| When they announced that Joe Biden had cancer, he said, I wish his family well, I hope he gets better. | ||
| I have said it over and over again. | ||
| I wish Joe Biden can sit in a rocking chair with a blanket on his lap in the sun, beautiful day with some sun tea brewing, his grandkids hanging out with their great-grandkids, playing in the yard, dog running back and forth at Rehab Beach, got a smile on his face. | ||
| Despite the fact I think the man is evil and has done tremendous harm to this country, I just want him to bow out, go away and relax, leave us alone. | ||
| I do not wish harm on any of these people in the political space. | ||
| That's not the world we want to live in. | ||
| There's a great quote. | ||
| Politics is what saves us from violence. | ||
| The fact that we have these debates and we engage in these conversations is to not enter the arena of violence, where you have to watch a video of your friend being shot in the neck. | ||
| And it's not just about me. | ||
| Every veteran who had to witness their friend dying, every combat veteran who was overseas, every person who did not think that it was coming to them who had to witness and experience it, and the people who had to die painful deaths. | ||
| You know, I think the people who call for violence are the people who haven't experienced it for the most part. | ||
| And that's why I was saying early on that when these videos would go viral when I was younger, I was a teenager. | ||
| I'm not gonna just act, I ain't watching that. | ||
| I'd be like, I'm I need to watch this. | ||
| I need to see the brutality of man and what they're willing to do. | ||
| I was driving once, driving um, it was from DC to New York. | ||
| This was about ten years ago, I think. | ||
| And An accident occurred some hundred feet in front of us. | ||
| We heard it. | ||
| We saw the cars. | ||
| It was bad. | ||
| Traffic dead stops. | ||
| We begin to drive slowly past the accident. | ||
| A man was thrown from his vehicles, a bunch of young people. | ||
| They were probably in their 20s. | ||
| And we were crawling a mile or two an hour. | ||
| Because people had to go around the accident very slowly onto the shoulder. | ||
| And it's a it's it's the first time. | ||
| I think I was probably, you know, despite everything you see online, it doesn't, it doesn't hit the same way. | ||
| The man's legs had been vaporized. | ||
| And there was a woman screaming and crying, holding his hand, he was thrown from his vehicle, and his legs were s were were pulverized by a passing vehicle. | ||
| And when he lifted them up, you just saw blood spraying. | ||
| And I hate to be crass, but pulverized meat. | ||
| And I experienced in that moment witnessing that in slow motion as we drove past. | ||
| It was a feeling I had never felt before. | ||
| An emotion that I have no word for. | ||
| I felt it in the core of my being terror, horror, pain, fear, and I know that there are many people who have experienced substantially worse. | ||
| My dad was a firefighter. | ||
| And he's seen like this all too often. | ||
| And he had explained something similar to me when I was a kid. | ||
| That there's something indescribable, that there is something you you experience when you see someone die. | ||
| And in gruesome ways. | ||
| And our police officers, our men and women in uniform, our firefighters, our EMTs, they deal with this all the time. | ||
| And people don't get it because they don't see it because we are shielded from it. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| A few years later, I was in Egypt, and I watched a man get shot and killed. | ||
| And it wasn't graphic. | ||
| Like it wasn't gory, it wasn't the same thing, but there was a feeling that you get as well. | ||
| It was it was different. | ||
| It's one thing when you see brutality. | ||
| It's another thing when you see death. | ||
| And this was actually the first time I actually personally seen someone die. | ||
| They were shooting each other in the street, these various factions. | ||
| And someone got blasted close range with a shotgun and collapsed. | ||
| And people grabbed his body and they were running down the street carrying what was very obviously a dead body. | ||
| And it's it's a horrible, it's it's horrifying. | ||
| I've never been in an active war zone. | ||
| I've been in urban conflict. | ||
| So that is riots and civil unrest revolution. | ||
| That's the extent that I've experienced. | ||
| There are people who have witnessed and have been in actual combat and have taken lives. | ||
| And every single one that I've met, they say, man, you don't want this here. | ||
| You don't understand. | ||
| The first people to say, stop, we don't want to talk like this, are the people who've actually had to experience it. | ||
| So when I see people in the comments saying war and it's time or whatever, it's like I know it's not always, but I have to make the assumption that y'all have no real experience dealing with death. | ||
| There's certainly a lot of guys who are brutal, who are, and I don't mean this in a derogatory sense, but barbarians. | ||
| They are brutes, they're men of great strength, they are trained, and these people exist. | ||
| And they are saying they will go fight. | ||
| But I think when you actually look at the average person who's dealt with war, they're saying we do everything we can to stop that from affecting our homes and our lives. | ||
| Uh we're still waiting on this press conference, which is very late, but it's okay. | ||
| I'm not saying that to be uh uh in any way upset with we're just hoping to get this information on the suspect in custody, and uh, we're awaiting this. | ||
| Of course, at 11 o'clock, we are going to be having our Culture War live show. | ||
| Uh uh in just a minute. | ||
| Uh well, at 11, and we're gonna be discussing the psychology of this violence. | ||
| I'll read this from a uh Mad Dogs on uh on Rumble, he says I'm a combat infantryman of 18 years. | ||
| Tim is 100% correct correct, you guys aren't prepared for what war is I am. | ||
| I've I've never in my life met with a uh uh individual who served in combat who told me they want war at home. | ||
| I've never met one. | ||
| I've never met a security contractor or PMC, and I've met many and I've interviewed many. | ||
| Even in foreign countries, I have met people, and everyone says every time, those that are involved, we don't want this. | ||
| I have seen grown men cry, terrified for their families, and they always feel like it came to this point out of their control. | ||
| Dominoes were falling. | ||
| I have friends with very high kill counts, and we don't ask them about it, but we all know, and only in the most serious uh serious of conversations do these veterans and active duty guys bring it up. | ||
| I've never been in the experience, I've never been in the presence of a man who has served who laughs and talks about his his kill count or his body count. | ||
| Never. | ||
| They never bring it up. | ||
| And when these conversations happen, they won't bring it up. | ||
| Only in the rarest of circumstances do they get quiet and say, listen, I have done these things. | ||
| I have never, and I'm not saying it doesn't exist. | ||
| I certainly believe there are men who have served, who are in combat, who who will laugh and smile and say that they're ready for war, that they're proud of what they've done and the people they've taken out. | ||
| I know it exists. | ||
| But every single person I've ever met, they always just say, like, you don't want it. | ||
| You do not want it. | ||
| These people online who are saying they do, I don't think understand what it's like to wake up one day in the middle of the night, your wife is sleeping next to you, and you hear an explosion followed by rapid gunshots. | ||
| You don't know which direction to go. | ||
| You don't know who's being targeted. | ||
| There's a video of a mass shooting. | ||
| I'm not gonna say which one, but everyone knows about it. | ||
| Now when the shooting happens, everybody hits the floor because that's what you're supposed to do, right? | ||
| The person doing the shooting just walks up to everybody on the floor and just starts executing them. | ||
| And you'd think to yourself, like, man, if they just ran away, they wouldn't have because they hear the shots, and then like 30 seconds later, the guy walks up and kills them. | ||
| But this is the thing. | ||
| We got a warning. | ||
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| One, two, one, two, three, four, coming, war, seven, just a mic check again. | ||
| No warning. | ||
| So, anyway, the point was when you're in an when you're in uh a conflict or combat, uh you don't know what's happening, and if you're especially if you're not trained, it makes sense that people hit the floor. | ||
| But with this guy who was doing the shooting, if people ran instead, they'd have lived. | ||
| But you don't know which way to run. | ||
| And that's what's scary. | ||
| I was in Ferguson, and it was when they announced uh Darren Wilson was not guilty, not even the first time I got shot at in Ferguson, but I think it was three. | ||
| I don't I actually almost got shot in Ferguson. | ||
| Um I I I don't know if I was gonna die from asphyxiation, but I almost passed out from uh oxen displacement due to tear gas. | ||
| When the when the word came out that Darren Wilson was being found not guilty, we immediately heard gunshots and I'm on the ground. | ||
| It's like instinct. | ||
| I've had I've had some minimal training, but it's like instinct. | ||
| And I looked to my right, and the producer I'd been working with advice was on the ground. | ||
| And I looked to my left, and there is a guy from a corporate news channel, a large overweight man looking around as everyone's hitting the floor. | ||
| And he looks at me and goes, Those fireworks. | ||
| And I and we yelled, get down. | ||
| And I was like, Do you see anyone carrying fireworks? | ||
| He's like, No, no. | ||
| I was like, Do you see people carrying guns? | ||
| And he's like, Yes. | ||
| It is insane to me. | ||
| Now here's the terrifying reality is we didn't know where the bolts were going, where they were coming from, or who was getting shot. | ||
| So all we could do is hit the ground. | ||
| And that's terrifying. | ||
| Because if that guy was looking for press or journalists or people who like if white people or people who he thinks are white are just non-black people, I have no idea. | ||
| It's funny because in the first week of the ride, same thing happened. | ||
| Shots ring out, I I drop down, everybody hits the floor. | ||
| Vice producer looks around saying, it's just fireworks. | ||
| Because they they they think gunshots. | ||
| You you watch movies and you hear gunshots, and they're these deep boom, boom, boom. | ||
| They don't they don't understand what a 22 or a nine mil sounds like. | ||
| They've never heard it in real life. | ||
| That pop is kind of it's substantially a higher pitch than in the movies. | ||
| So they hear and they go, ah, it's a firework. | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| Because people don't understand. | ||
| They don't get it. | ||
| You know what I do think what's benefited me in my career covering these things on the ground is uh. | ||
| I grew up in Chicago. | ||
| You all know it. | ||
| And it's just another day. | ||
| You heard a gunshot, you look around. | ||
| Man. | ||
| I think most people really are sheltered from the world. | ||
| Strong men make good times. | ||
| We are in good times, but they are quickly becoming bad times. | ||
| Oh, I should say we were in good times. | ||
| I was in Venezuela, sent there by Vice to cover student uprising against the communist government. | ||
| We dispatched to a location where students were protesting. | ||
| About block or two north of this protest site was Venezuelan National Guard with rifles and handguns drawn and ready. | ||
| They they weren't they weren't high-ready, but they were holding them. | ||
| And we walked down the street with garbage, debris, and barbed wire strung up as obstacles to block the National Guard. | ||
| And we're filming it like, wow, this is crazy. | ||
| In fact, for about 10 years, my ex banner was this image of fires in the street. | ||
| They they burned the inner, they set fires around the intersection. | ||
| We get our footage, we talk about it, we head back to the protest crowd. | ||
| When all of a sudden, all of a sudden, here's the protest crowd, here's the intersection, right? | ||
| Here's the National Guard, here's the crowd. | ||
| So let's let's actually rotate it and see if you can visualize. | ||
| We're standing about right here. | ||
| Here's the protest crowd, here's the National Guard. | ||
| Screaming, shrill screeching. | ||
| Everyone starts running. | ||
| So I look at my crew and I go, Move now. | ||
| I I run about two steps away from the crowd. | ||
| National Guards coming in, crowd this way. | ||
| After a few feet, I stop and look, and they're just standing there shrugging. | ||
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| And so we run away from the direction of the National Guard and the crowd and take cover behind a small uh cinder block brick wall. | ||
| Basically, it was like a plant or it was elevated with dirt, so it was good cover. | ||
| And they go, Well, what's going on? | ||
| And I'm just I'm flabbergasted. | ||
| I was like, did you not see the men with guns that were had them ready in that street? | ||
| And they're like, Yeah. | ||
| And the people screaming and running away from them, and they were like, uh yeah. | ||
| I was like, why do you think everyone is running away? | ||
| Well, I don't I don't know. | ||
| Do you want to wait and find out why there's a group of about a hundred, two hundred people screaming at the top of their lungs, running away from armed men with guns pointed in their direction? | ||
| The fact they wouldn't move, they really, really were not prepared for this. | ||
| We got in the vehicle, we got in our car, and I said, Let's get let's let's leave. | ||
| I asked the producer from Vice, do you have hostile environment training? | ||
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| Have you ever been in a combat or conflict situation? | ||
| No. | ||
| I said, take us back to the hotel. | ||
| We're calling it. | ||
| We're leaving. | ||
| And he was like, what do you mean? | ||
| And I was like, my friend, I will not be responsible for your death. | ||
| I only have the the the little amount of training that I do. | ||
| I have not gone through a basic training. | ||
| I've not served. | ||
| I have not spent a thousand hours on the range. | ||
| At that point, I had never even fired a gun. | ||
| I had minimal conflict training and general street awareness. | ||
| Honestly, not even necessarily good enough. | ||
| But at least I was not a burden to them. | ||
| Looks like we're beginning. | ||
| or a five-minute warning. | ||
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| Hello, hello, Tessie, Castine. | ||
| Hi everyone. | ||
| We are four minutes out from starting a press conference. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Four minutes out. | ||
| So to my point, I I'm not going to pretend to be able to lead a group in a conflict situation. | ||
| But at least I have general situational awareness. | ||
| I can follow orders. | ||
| And I'm not going to get you killed. | ||
| But if you are on the ground in a conflict situation where people are being shot and killed, and they are in Venezuela at the time especially, I cannot be responsible for someone who doesn't know what to do. | ||
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I have no question. | |
| I will not be in a situation, be it Ferguson, Baltimore. | ||
| The same thing happened when I was in Ferguson. | ||
| And I and the producer that they had sent to me, apparently they told me was a music video producer. | ||
| And I said, Is this a joke? | ||
| What's gonna happen when shots ring out and they don't know what to do? | ||
| Am I gonna have to run into the street and grab them and throw them on the ground, risking my life? | ||
| In Ferguson, on what during one of the uh it was like a week-long thing we were there, shots started to ring out, and I within a second, flopped to the ground, threw everything, my arms out flat on the ground, and I heard the bullet snap past my head. | ||
| I don't know how close it was. | ||
| I believe it hit the brick wall just to my left, and I dropped to the ground. | ||
| Close enough for me. | ||
| I was in Wisconsin during one of these protests, and uh they sh the the the BLM people shot a 19-year-old kid in the neck with a 22. | ||
| And uh he's holding his neck, bleeding. | ||
| They brought him into a house, some locals, and then I was filming as an APC pulls up and a bunch of cops, SWAT guys get out, forming a circle, covering everyone's, you know, covering all directions, moving up to the house, taking the kid and bringing him in. | ||
| I filmed it. | ||
| It is it is wild, a wild thing to experience. | ||
| In Ferg in Ferguson, there were there were, I think, three shooting instances. | ||
| The one I mentioned was the the greatest risk. | ||
| There was one where shots rang out, and uh, I believe Vice deleted this. | ||
| They deleted the video. | ||
| I was with a journalist named uh Marcus De Paula. | ||
| He's got a big TikTok profile these days. | ||
| And uh he has general situational awareness and training. | ||
| We have we had covered these protests, you know, not together, but like he's there on there, we know each other, and we see each other every time. | ||
| But I consider him a friend. | ||
| I haven't seen him in like 15 or I don't know, was it 12 years? | ||
| But you know, he was a friend, and we hear instantly on the ground, taking cover behind a transformer, laying down, and there's a guy standing up with a camera looking around, and Marcus screams, get down, come here, get down. | ||
| And it's crazy that we have to do that. | ||
| The police then say, go now, run, run, run. | ||
| They walk up, they got their gear, and they got their armor, they got their gas masks, gas is filling the streets. | ||
| And I was live streaming, I run through the gas, I jump a fence, the tear gas was thick, I was hyperventilating, and it displaced the oxygen in my lungs, and I don't know if you've ever experienced a uh hypoxia, but everything started to come to a point. | ||
| Tunnel vision, I was Passing out, and then I collapsed on a lawn. | ||
| And within a second, crazy experience. | ||
| It was a young black kid from the neighborhood, poured water on my face, and I went, and I instantly snapped back. | ||
| It is it is a crazy experience. | ||
| It's um, I forgot what it's called. | ||
| But when you could splash with cold water, you have an you have a uh a response, you you inhale. | ||
| You if you've ever jumped into a pool and you go, you inhale when you when you when you get that cold shock. | ||
| And uh I don't I don't think this kid knew that. | ||
| I don't know how he knew to do that, but it was the right thing to do, and I instantly inhaled, and everything just came back. | ||
| I don't know that I was dying or anything. | ||
| I don't know what would have happened, but I was I was passing out. | ||
| I was wheezing, hyperventilating, shots had been fired, and this happens when there's too much tear gas, it irritates and displaces the oxygen. | ||
| I was in Turkey when something similar had happened when the police had fired tear gas into a tunnel where protesters have been running, and oxygen is displaced, you're not getting enough, you go hypoxic, and you collapse. | ||
| And I believe that's basically what happened to me. | ||
| Probably a combination of high blood, you know, high blood pressure, high heart rate, um, and not enough oxygen because of the tear gas. | ||
| And so, you know, you you ever stand up too quick because you're getting lightheaded, it's kind of like that, and it gets more and more intense, and then you just and then I wake up with some kid pouring water on my face. | ||
| Wild. | ||
| Just wild. | ||
| Nobody. | ||
| Anybody want who claims they want to live that way, they're lying. | ||
| Or they've never they truly don't know what it's like. | ||
| You don't want to live that way, man. | ||
| Take a look at Kytenhouse. | ||
| Kyle Rittenhouse didn't want to go through that. | ||
| He didn't want to experience that. | ||
| He didn't want that to be his life. | ||
| He still struggles with what what what they call him and what they made him. | ||
| And he was just some kid who was trying to keep his community safe. | ||
| He was armed because violent writers were were trying to kill people. | ||
| An old man who was trying to protect his business was bashed over the head with a brick. | ||
| And they say the violence comes from the right. | ||
| Always has been. | ||
| We are just a few minutes out from the from the uh press conference. | ||
| Um I'm hoping that uh I hope they got the guy. | ||
| I hope they learn and understand these motivations, and uh I'll say this. | ||
| The initial reporting that we got seems like it is a a a left-aligned individual, but you never know. | ||
| You never know. | ||
| We've got uh uh Steven Crowder's report stating that there was trans and anti-fascist ideology inscribed on the bullets. | ||
| He has now been subpoenaed by the ATF. | ||
| Sounds like it was real. | ||
| Now this is corroborated by the Wall Street Journal. | ||
| And CNN reported there were cultural issues engraved on the bullets. | ||
| The New York Times says a law enforcement individual says they may have been misinterpreted, they're not sure yet, they're still being analyzed. | ||
| I I really do think that's silly. | ||
| I think at this point, you can reasonably infer what was written and what it means. | ||
| That being said, this individual may have been trying to frame the left. | ||
| I think I would go with Occam's razor. | ||
| Charlie was speaking about transgender mass shooters. | ||
| He has been accused of being racist, white supremacists, all the worst things in the book. | ||
| And the left were very much the the principal agitated group. | ||
| However, there's always possibilities we can't predict or understand. | ||
| Um so I I would say in the absence of evidence, the solution that makes the least amount of assumptions tends to be correct, Tuckham's razor, and that is if they're reporting that there's trans or anti-f ideology inscribed on these bullets, probably the case. | ||
| Possibly possibility they were misinterpreted. | ||
| Considering who Charlie is, corroborates that. | ||
| The press conference yesterday corroborated the weapon they found, and the Wall Street Journal corroborated the reporting from Steven Crowder, and CNN corroborated their reporting despite not mentioning what those cultural issues were. | ||
| So we have no reason to believe this was anything else. | ||
| But I always entertained possibilities. | ||
| Perhaps this guy wanted to frame the left. | ||
| He was thinking this is going to make the right go to war with the left, knowing that Charlie Kirk was the main figure, but I doubt it. | ||
| But maybe we'll learn something. | ||
| Maybe we'll learn something today that will be so shocking. | ||
| I have a million and one predictions. | ||
| And I fear that nothing can stop what is coming. | ||
| Nothing's going to stop what's coming. | ||
| The videos that I've seen celebrating the death of Charlie Kirk caused me. | ||
| Let me put it like this. | ||
| I have there are a lot of people in the public space, politicians, celebrities, personalities. | ||
| If something were to happen to them, I'd I'd be shocked. | ||
| When Donald Trump, when that video broke of Trump getting shot, surviving, but getting shot. | ||
| And in that moment, I did not know if he made it. | ||
| My reaction was, oh my God. | ||
| He stood up and said, fight, fight, fight, and I was like, whoa. | ||
| When I had heard that Charlie got shot, I was panicking. | ||
| When I saw the first video, the first video that came out, it didn't look that bad. | ||
| I started freaking out. | ||
| I was I was my wife was starting to cry. | ||
| I was tearing up. | ||
| When I saw the first frame of the close-up video, I threw my phone and started crying more than I have in a decade. | ||
| Because of what Charlie meant to all of us. | ||
| So the motivations. | ||
| It looks like they're beginning the press conference. | ||
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Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. | |
| At today's press conference, we will hear from Governor Cox, FBI Director Cash Patel, and Sheriff Mike Smith. | ||
| We also have with us Utah DPS Commissioner Bo Mason, Lieutenant Governor Didra Henderson, FBI special agent in charge, Robert Bowles, and local and federal law enforcement partners. | ||
| Following the remarks today, Governor Cox, Director Patel, and Commissioner Mason will take questions. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| We got him. | ||
| On the evening of September 11th, a family member of Tyler Robinson reached out to a family friend who contacted the Washington County Sheriff's Office with information that Robinson had confessed to them or implied that he had committed the incident. | ||
| This information was relayed to the Utah County Sheriff's Office and seen investigators at Utah Valley University. | ||
| This information was also conveyed to the FBI. | ||
| Investigators reviewed additional video footage from UBU surveillance and identified Robinson arriving on UVU campus in a great Dodge Challenger at approximately 8.29 a.m. on September 10th, in which he is observed on video in a plain maroon t-shirt, light-colored shorts, a black hat with a white logo, and light-colored shoes. | ||
| When encountered in person by investigators in Washington County on September 12th, in the early morning hours, Robinson was observed in consistent clothing with those surveillance images. | ||
| Investigators interviewed a family member of Robinson who stated that Robinson had become more political in recent years. | ||
| The family member referenced a recent incident in which Robinson came to dinner prior to September 10th, and in the conversation with another family member, Robinson mentioned Charlie Kirk was coming to UVU. | ||
| They talked about why they didn't like him and the viewpoints that he had. | ||
| The family member also stated Kirk was full of hate and spreading hate. | ||
| The family member also confirmed Robinson had a gray Dodge Challenger. | ||
| Investigators identified an individual as the roommate of Robinson. | ||
| Investigators interviewed that roommate who stated that his roommate, referring to Robinson, made a joke on Discord. | ||
| Investigators asked if he would show them the messages on Discord. | ||
| He opened it and showed several messages to investigators and allowed investigators to take photos of the screen as each message was shown by Robinson's roommate. | ||
| These photos consisted of various messages, including content of messages between the phone contact name Tyler with an emoji icon and Robinson's roommate's device. | ||
| The content of these messages included messages affiliated with the contact Tyler stating a need to retrieve a rifle from a drop point, leaving the rifle in a bush, messages related to a to visually watching the area where a rifle was left, and a message referring to having left the rifle wrapped in a towel. | ||
| The messages also refer to engraving bullets and a mention of a scope and the rifle being unique. | ||
| messages from the contact Tyler also mentioned that he had changed outfits. | ||
| I know there's been speculation as well as to the the writing on those casings, those those those bullet casings and I believe we have that as well. | ||
| And I'll share that with you now. | ||
| So the area north of Campus Drive Road where the suspect crossed over. | ||
| You saw some of that in the video that we released last night. | ||
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Consists of a grassy area with trees on the edge of the UBU campus. | |
| Investigators discovered a bolt action rifle wrapped in a dark colored towel. | ||
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The rifle was determined to be a Mauser model 98 306 caliber six caliber bolt action rifle. | |
| The rifle had a scope mounted on top of it. | ||
| Investigators noted inscriptions that had been engraved on casings found with the rifle. | ||
| Inscriptions on a fired casing read notices, bulges, capital O W O. What's this question mark? | ||
| Inscriptions on the three unfired casings read, hey fascist exclamation point, catch exclamation point. | ||
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Up arrow symbol, right arrow, and uh symbol and three down arrow symbols. | |
| A second unfired casing read, O Bella Chow, Bella Chow, Bella Chow, Chow Chow, and a third unfired case he read, if you read this, you are gay L M A O. We are indebted to law enforcement across the state who has worked seamlessly together, local law enforcement, state law enforcement, and our federal partners with the uh with the Federal Bureau of Investigation. | ||
| We're grateful for everyone who worked together in uh in such a short amount of time to uh to find this person and uh and to uh to bring justice. | ||
| I want to thank the public who has been so engaged, reviewing uh reviewing videos, helping us with uh sending in tips and helping us get to this point. | ||
| I want to thank uh the uh the family members of Tyler Robinson who did the right thing in this case and were able to uh to bring him into uh to law enforcement as well. | ||
| I especially want to thank the family of Charlie Kirk, Erica, um Charlie's parents, his children. | ||
| I want us to be thinking of them as we bring justice in this case. | ||
| They will be involved in that justice. | ||
| We will be working very closely with them as we move through this process as well. | ||
| This is a very sad day for again for our country, uh, a terrible day for the state of Utah. | ||
| But I'm grateful that at this moment we have an opportunity to bring closure to this very dark chapter in our nation's history. | ||
| With that, I will now turn the uh turn the microphone over to the director of the FBI Cash Patel. | ||
| Bella Chow is a reference to an anti-fascist song from the Italian resistance. | ||
| Thank you, Governor. | ||
| It means goodbye beautiful. | ||
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This is what happens when you let good cops be cops. | |
| The FBI and our partners are proud to stand here today together to bring justice to the family of Charlie Kirk in honor's memory. | ||
| I want to express my deep gratitude to President Trump, the Vice President, and the entire White House who have been so incredibly supportive with both resources and just personally to the FBI as a team. | ||
| They had our backs the entire way, and I just want to express my gratitude for giving us the resources we need to operate in this space to bring this sort of justice at this sort of speed. | ||
| In 33 hours, we have made historic progress for Charlie. | ||
| Governor Cox, our partnership has been absolutely incredible these last few days. | ||
| Our partnership will endure. | ||
| Your state and local partners, your sheriffs, your DPS community has been unbelievably impressive in the hardest of times. | ||
| And a case like this cannot be solved, cannot be brought without partnering with your state and local authorities. | ||
| The FBI has a certain role to play. | ||
| We will play that role, and we will lead out to the federal government. | ||
| We are so grateful for your state partnership that led out on this investigation. | ||
| A little bit of the timeline. | ||
| Charlie was shot at 1223 p.m. on Wednesday. | ||
| The first FBI agents arrived on scene in 16 minutes with chiefs of police at 1239 and secured the scene. | ||
| The FBI immediately launched fixed wing assets. | ||
| We utilize these assets to transport personnel, specialty technicians, hostage rescue teams. | ||
| We also utilize these assets to go back and forth from the East Coast and here in Utah to transport forensic evidence and other evidence that will be analyzed and is being analyzed at our FBI laboratories in Quantico and other laboratories, including the ATF. | ||
| At my direction, the FBI released the first set of FBI photos of the suspect at 10 a.m. local time on 9-11. | ||
| Then, shortly thereafter, the FBI reward of 100,000 was released at 1045 a.m. local. | ||
| Myself and Deputy Director Bon Gino arrived on the scene at approximately 5:30 p.m. on 9-11. | ||
| The governor led a press conference last night at approximately 8 p.m. | ||
| Where in my direction the FBI released a never before seen video of the suspect. | ||
| We also released new images to the public of the suspect. | ||
| And just last night, the suspect was taken into custody at 10 p.m. local time. | ||
| In less than 36 hours, 33 to be precise, thanks to the full weight of the federal government and leading out with the partners here in the state of Utah and Governor Cox. | ||
| The suspect was apprehended in historic time period. | ||
| And I want to highlight what Governor Cox said. | ||
| This would not have been possible without you, the media, and you, the public. | ||
| That's why we went so public, so fast, and we're so transparent, and we're committed to that transparency. | ||
| The crime scene, just a little bit there. | ||
| It is a large crime scene. | ||
| State local authorities along with federal authorities processed that crime scene quickly. | ||
| And I even had the ability to walk through that crime scene and walk through the steps the suspect took to learn more about what was needed and what resources we need to bear to create a full picture for the FBI and leadership back in Washington. | ||
| Furthermore, thankfully to state and local partners, forensic evidence has been seized and continues to be garnered. | ||
| Forensic evidence has already been evaluated, FBI laboratories in Quantico and state local authorities here. | ||
| We will continue to process evidence as we see it as we collect it, and we'll continue to deliver to Governor Cox and his team. | ||
| Last night we had a total of approximately 7,000 interviews, excuse me, 7,000 leads. | ||
| As of this morning, thanks to your great work. | ||
| And we are running out every single lead that we can. | ||
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Every one of those leads will be run out. | |
| The arrest is a testament to dedication of good law enforcement being great. | ||
| And partnerships in law enforcement, which I've tried to highlight as my tenure as a director of the FBI. | ||
| There is no better relationship for law enforcement than the FBI to partner with state and local authorities, and you've seen it here in these last few days. | ||
| The FBI Salt Lake Field Office, along with our offices in LA, Phoenix, Denver, San Antonio, Las Vegas, Pittsburgh, Buffalo, our headquarters component in Quantico, all participate in the FBI. | ||
| I want to express my deep gratitude to the employees of the FBI, the men and women, the evidence response team tacticians, the special operators, the agents, the support staff. | ||
| You have done monumental work in historic time when the public who had a right to demand such an expeditious solving of an investigation. | ||
| The FBI answered that call diligently, critically important to our nation. | ||
| And we delivered. | ||
| And I'm proud to be their leader. | ||
| I'm proud to be the director of the FBI. | ||
| This is a very much an ongoing investigation, as the governor said. | ||
| And we will continue to work with state and local authorities to develop the investigation to provide them the evidence they need for their ongoing prosecutions, and we will be here to answer every call. | ||
| They absolutely have, as long as it takes, for as long as we need to find an apprehend of whatever suspects were involved in this crime. | ||
| Lastly, to my friend Charlie Kirk. | ||
| Rest now, brother. | ||
| We have the watch, and I'll see you at Valhalla. | ||
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Valhalla. | |
| Thank you. | ||
| Good morning. | ||
| I would just like to take a few minutes as the sheriff to express my gratitude for everybody who has played a part in this investigation. | ||
| As you know, it's been a vast, complicated, and a very, very fast-paced investigation. | ||
| You're looking at people standing up here who are running on, if they got an hour's sleep in the last couple days, they're probably lucky. | ||
| It has been very taxing. | ||
| It has been so impressive speaking on behalf of the local law enforcement to see the cooperation that we've seen in this type of case. | ||
| Across the state, sheriffs, chiefs, our state partners have stepped up and have come to the call on anything that we needed. | ||
| Our county chiefs have been phenomenal. | ||
| Our Utah County Attorney Jeff Gray, who's standing up here with us, has been phenomenal in leading us through this investigation. | ||
| I would like to thank the federal government for their resources, their assets. | ||
| Our local team here, our FBI team has been extraordinary in helping us work through this and bring this person to justice. | ||
| Most of all, I would like to thank the public, and specifically, I would like to thank the public who turned to prayers and who turned to positiveness for us. | ||
| I would like to thank them on behalf of the law enforcement community because we needed those prayers. | ||
| That's what we needed to get through this. | ||
| We needed your support, and you gave it to us. | ||
| We needed your patience, and you gave it to us. | ||
| And I would like to thank you for the Kirk family because that's what they need, is your support and your prayers, and that will get us through all of this. | ||
| So thank you everybody for everybody that have stepped up. | ||
| We've had such a phenomenal response to this. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| I also want to give a special thanks to the Attorney General and the Department of Justice. | ||
| Their unwavering support and their commitment to justice is shown true here. | ||
| And without A.G. Bondy and Deputy Attorney General Todd Blands and the resources they brought to bear. | ||
| We would not have been able to complete our mission. | ||
| And I just want to say special thanks. | ||
| It's an honor to be a part of the Department of Justice. | ||
| Thank you again to our incredible law enforcement team who has worked so hard. | ||
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Sheriff, I got a solid 90 minutes last night, so I'm probably the most well-rested person up here. | |
| Ladies and gentlemen, I uh I get the microphone, so uh I hope you'll permit me uh a moment just to share a few more thoughts about where we are and how we got here, and and uh and maybe a little bit of where we go from here. | ||
| Um I don't want to get too preachy, but I think it's important that we, with eyes wide open, understand what's happening in our our country today. | ||
| I I've heard I've heard people say, well, why are we why are we so invested in this? | ||
| There's violence happening all across our country, and violence is tragic everywhere, and every life taken is a child of God who deserves our love and respect and dignity. | ||
| This is uh this is certainly about the uh the tragic death, uh assassination, political assassination of Charlie Kirk. | ||
| Um, but it is also much bigger than an attack on an individual. | ||
| It is an attack on all of us. | ||
| It is an attack on the American experiment, it is an attack on our ideals. | ||
| This cuts to the very foundation of who we are, of who we have been, and uh and who we could be in better times. | ||
| Political violence is different than any other type of violence for for lots of different reasons. | ||
| One, because in the very act that Charlie championed of expression, that freedom of expression that is enshrined in our founding documents, in having his life taken in that very act, makes it more difficult for people to feel like they can share their ideas, that they can speak freely. | ||
| We will never be able to solve all the other problems, including the violence problems that people are worried about if we can't have a clash of ideas safely and securely, even especially those ideas with which you disagree. | ||
| That's why this matters so much. | ||
| Over the last 48 hours, I have been as angry as I have ever been, as sad as I have ever been. | ||
| And it was uh as as anger pushed me to the brink, it was actually Charlie's words that pulled me back. | ||
| I'd like to share some of those, and specifically right now, if I could. | ||
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I I need to talk to the young people in our state, in my state, and all across the country. | |
| As President Trump reminded me, he said, you know who who really loved Charlie? | ||
| The youths. | ||
| And he's right. | ||
| Um love Charlie. | ||
| And young people hated Charlie. | ||
| And Charlie went into those places anyway. | ||
| And these are the words that have helped me. | ||
| Charlie said, when people stop talking, that's when you get violence. | ||
| He said, the weak can never forgive. | ||
| Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong. | ||
| The only way out of the labyrinth of suffering is to forgive. | ||
| Welcome without judgment, love without condition, forgive without limit. | ||
| He said, always forgive your enemies, nothing annoys them so much. | ||
| A few months ago, I referenced this last night. | ||
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Charlie posted to social media. | |
| When things are moving very fast and people are losing their minds, it's important to stay grounded. | ||
| Turn off your phone, read scripture, spend time with friends, and remember internet fury is not real life. | ||
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It's going to be okay. | |
| He again said, when you stop having a human connection with someone you disagree with, it becomes a lot easier to commit violence. | ||
| He said, what we as a culture have to get back to is being able to have a reasonable agreement, being able to have reasonable agreement where violence is not an option. | ||
| Now, again, to my young friends out there. | ||
| You are inheriting a country where politics feels like rage. | ||
| It feels like rage is the only option. | ||
| But through those words, we have a reminder that we can choose a different path. | ||
| Your generation has an opportunity to build a culture that is very different than what we are suffering through right now. | ||
| Not by pretending differences don't matter, but by embracing our differences and having those hard conversations. | ||
| I hear all the time that words are violence. | ||
| Words are not violence, violence is violence. | ||
| And there is one person responsible for what happened here. | ||
| And that person is now in custody and will be charged soon and will be held accountable. | ||
| And yet all of us have an opportunity right now to do something different. | ||
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I want to thank my fellow Utons. | |
| You know, this bad stuff happens. | ||
| And for 33 hours, I was I was praying that uh that if this had to happen here, that it wouldn't be one of us. | ||
| That somebody drove from another state, somebody came from another country. | ||
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Sadly, that that uh that prayer was not answered the way I hoped for. | |
| Just because I thought it would make it easier on us if we could just say, hey, we don't do that here. | ||
| Um indeed, Utah is the special place. | ||
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We lead the nation in charitable giving, we leave the nation in service every year. | |
| Um but it did happen here. | ||
| It was one of us. | ||
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But I want you to look at how Utawn's reacted the last two nights. | |
| There was no rioting, there's no looting, there were no cars set on fire, there's no violence. | ||
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There were there were vigils and prayers and people coming together to share the humanity. | |
| And that, ladies and gentlemen, I believe is the answer to this. | ||
| We can return violence with violence, we can return hate with hate. | ||
| And that's the problem with political violence, is it metastasizes because we can always point the finger at the other side. | ||
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And at some point we have to find an off-rand, or it's going to get much, much worse. | |
| But see, these are choices that we can make. | ||
| History will dictate if this is a turning point for our country. | ||
| But every single one of us gets to choose right now if this is a turning point for us. | ||
| We get to make decisions. | ||
| We have our agency. | ||
| And I desperately call on every American, Republican, Democrat, liberal, progressive, conservative, MAGA, all of us to please, please, please follow what Charlie taught me. | ||
| I'll just conclude with uh with words I share often from a friend and author you've all lived in, who was asked if he was optimistic about our country. | ||
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And uh he said, I'm not optimistic. | |
| He said, I hate optimism. | ||
| God, that sounds bad. | ||
| Uh but he said, he said, optimism is a vice. | ||
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It's this idea that good things are just going to happen. | |
| He said, in the history of the world, good things have never just happened. | ||
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He says, I'm not optimistic, but I am hopeful. | |
| And hope is the virtue that sits between the vices of optimism and pessimism. | ||
| Hope is the idea that good things are going to happen because we can make them so. | ||
| I still believe in our country. | ||
| And I know Charlie Kirk believed in our country. | ||
| I still believe that there is more good among us than evil. | ||
| And I still believe that we can change the course of history. | ||
| I'm hopeful because Americans can make it so. | ||
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Ladies and gentlemen, we're happy to answer any questions you want to do. | |
| Governor, can you please speak to whether the suspect is speaking with authorities and his demeanor, Tyler Robinson when he turned himself in? | ||
| Um we I cannot speak to that. | ||
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Governor, how do you try to put the including so long? | |
| Well, I will leave that up to you to interpret what those engravings mean. | ||
| Um I I think the uh the clearest one that says catch fascist. | ||
| I it there's not and by the way, that's like catch like of all catch this. | ||
| Um that's uh I think that that speaks for itself. | ||
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Governor, so you talked about this level of hatred that this person expressed. | |
| Beyond that, is there anything in your view that you've discovered that may have radicalized or changed and to prompt him to commit such a horrific? | ||
| There's nothing more that we can share at this time. | ||
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Governor, you have indicated that he had been communicating with a friend on Discord about the gun. | |
| Do you anticipate any more arrests? | ||
| Uh we do not at this time have any information that would lead to any additional arrests. | ||
| Do you believe he acted alone? | ||
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Yes. | |
| But the investigation is ongoing. | ||
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How he came into custody of uh police and where he is right now with the question. | |
| Uh yes, so right now, Mr. Robinson has been booked into the Utah County jail. | ||
| Uh you you heard the president this morning uh report that uh that he was taken into custody, that uh that his family and uh and a friend um helped to uh to deliver him in uh to the the into custody of law enforcement in Washington County. | ||
| Those of you that don't know where Washington County is, it is the southernmost, southwesternmost part of the state of Utah. | ||
| It's about a three and a half to four hour drive from here where we are right now, and uh that's uh that's where where he lived and where he uh they turned into the state. | ||
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About Tyler Bob. | |
| I can't share any more than what I've already shared. | ||
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How did you talk about how they got back to Washington County and how the gun was obtained? | |
| So um we we the how we obtained the gun, the gun was found. | ||
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So how the speaker obtained the gun and how the shooter then was able to get back to Washington. | |
| Uh so I I don't have much more details um uh on that. | ||
| Um we we do know that uh that that he drove, uh we had his car here um on campus, and then uh and then we had his car going south back to back to uh the St. George. | ||
| It's actually the city of Washington in uh in Washington County. | ||
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Is he talking with authorities and did he discuss a voting? | |
| I'm sorry. | ||
| Did the suspect plan to carry out any other attacks? | ||
| We don't have any information that was. | ||
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Are you gonna be releasing the mugshot? | |
| Yes, uh, in fact, it's already it was just released. | ||
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Is he talking with authorities and did he discuss a voting? | |
| We um I I can't I can't answer that right now. | ||
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It's expected very eloquently about trying to reunite this country. | |
| Do you feel that this is a woman to shed in American history? | ||
| Uh I I absolutely believe that this is a watershed in American history, yes. | ||
| Um the question is what kind of watershed, and that that chapter remains to be written. | ||
| Is this the end of a dark chapter in our history or the beginning of a darker chapter in our history? | ||
| We we have uh look, I mean, if if you look at true political assassinations in this country of someone of this stature, um this feels a lot like the late 60s, um, and and having one so gruesomely displayed uh on camera in all of our hands and in all of our pockets. | ||
| We are not wired as human beings biologically, uh uh historically, we have not evolved uh in a way That um we are capable of processing those types of violent imagery. | ||
| And by the way, we've seen another one with a gruesome stabbing very recently that went viral. | ||
| Um this is not good for us. | ||
| It is not good to consume. | ||
| Um social media is a cancer on our society right now. | ||
| And I would encourage, again, I would encourage people to log off, turn off, touch grass, hug a family member, go out and do good in your community. | ||
| Uh there are people that is happening, and it's happening organically right now. | ||
| I had a friend in a small city in Utah who said we're we're we're getting together. | ||
| The Republicans and Democrats in my little town are getting together to have a discussion tonight, uh last night, um, just to find a way to to find a better angel. | ||
| So, yes, this this could be. | ||
| I I mean you know, again, you have to go back to JFK to have seen a video live of something like this happening. | ||
| Um I wasn't born until 1975. | ||
| But uh but I know that things were really dark in the in the late 60s. | ||
| Sorry to some of you. | ||
| I know some of you were there. | ||
| Uh but this is the this is our moment. | ||
| Um do we escalate or do we find an offering? | ||
| And uh again, it's a choice. | ||
| It's a choice. | ||
| And every one of us gets to make that choice. | ||
| Two more questions. | ||
| Two more questions right here. | ||
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Could we um clarify that the release of those enhanced images at 8 p.m., the timeline the director Patel gave us led to the arrest at 10 p.m.? | |
| Is there a direct connection between those two events? | ||
| I I cannot comment if there is a direct connection or not, but uh all I can say is that uh that that through some process the family came to know that this had happened. | ||
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One more thing, Governor. | |
| Could you just clarify the clothing issue you mentioned earlier? | ||
| Was he changing outfits? | ||
| Correct. | ||
| Yes, yes. | ||
| So uh so when he's first spotted on campus, he has different clothing on, and then he changes clothing on the roof, and then changed back into that clothing at some point so that when when he was uh when he was apprehended when he when he was arrested, um the clothing matched the clothing he had on before the shooting here at UV. | ||
| Last question here. | ||
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Can you kind of tell us a little bit more about where and was he a student here at this university? | |
| And is there any history of mental illness? | ||
| Yeah, uh so um I I I don't have any information on the mental illness part. | ||
| He was not a student here at UVU. | ||
| Um he was living and uh and had lived for a long time with his family in uh in Washington County. | ||
| Thank you everyone for uh for your great work in getting this information out. | ||
| Uh I I would just say process-wise, this may be important. | ||
| And I know many of you aren't familiar with with the process in Utah. | ||
| I think it's important that you understand that um basically um we have three days for uh charging documents to be filed. | ||
| Uh uh a CI will be filed. | ||
| We'll have more information then, more detailed information as those charging documents are filed in in preparation for a preliminary hearing. | ||
| So three days, so you know we would anticipate then that early next week those charging documents will be filed. | ||
| We will obviously be working, the uh the county attorney will be working very closely with uh with Mr. Kirk's family as uh as those documents and decisions are prepared and made. | ||
| Thanks, everyone. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Confirmation that this individual was uh left-aligned ideologue with bullet casings reading, hey fascist catch. | ||
| Oh, Bella Chao is a reference to an Antifa Italian resistance song. | ||
| It is quite literally Antifa, sung by people to fight Nazis. | ||
| And the phrase about bulges and OWO is trans or furry aligned comments. | ||
| So I believe the post that we're seeing online show that it is a reference to furry culture. | ||
| Uh this part this person perhaps was uh aligned with that. | ||
| I think that's why they said transgender or uh uh and antifa. | ||
| But uh but it is confirmed now. | ||
| Um the information that we have. | ||
| My friends. | ||
| We will be live in about 20 minutes at rumble.com slash the culture war, as well as YouTube.com slash Timcast for a conversation with some uh experts on the psychology of the mass violence that we're seeing, the cause, what is happening in this country, the politics of it. | ||
| So with this breaking news, of course, during the show, The Culture War, which is typically more conversational and debate oriented, we will be still tracking any breaking news and updates as it comes while we have a conversation of the underlying political elements that are causing all of this. | ||
| And of course, we will uh I'll be wrapping up the stream so that we can prep we can be prepared for that. | ||
| Thank you all so much for joining me and for uh honoring the legend that is Charlie Kirk. | ||
| And uh I'm grateful to Cash, the and law enforcement, uh the government in Utah for doing everything they can, the DOJ for for bringing this man to justice, at least so far. | ||
| And it does sound like they have reasonable uh evidence beyond a reasonable doubt. | ||
| So I'm hoping this is the case and we can we can put a stop to this violence. | ||
| So um please stick around. | ||
| Again, we'll be live in about 20 minutes for uh the culture war podcast on Rumble and on YouTube. | ||
| We'll continue this conversation again with any updates and a deep dive discussion on what is causing all of this. | ||
| Thank you everybody. | ||
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| Please stay tuned. | ||
| We are back shortly. | ||
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