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Trump THREATENS Democrats With ARREST From FBI Over Fleeing Texas

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tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The battle is raging on, my friends.
		Oh boy, I'm gone for the weekend.
		I get sick.
		And what do we have?
		Democrats fleeing Texas to avoid doing their jobs breaking quorum so that Texas cannot redistrict.
		Now the argument they're making is that once every ten years when they do the census, they then drop new maps.
		This is mid-decade redistricting.
		It is extremely rare, if not unprecedented, and Donald Trump specifically called on Texas to do this because they saw Texas.
		Now Texas actually had an opportunity to redistrict, which would get rid of some pesky Democrats, perhaps that Jasmine woman, and it would also grant the Republicans five extra seats in the coming midterms.
		You know what the problem is for the Democrats?
		This is democracy.
		And when you elections have consequences, when you lose an election, the people who win are able to run things the way they see fit.
		Now Republicans have stated, Greg Abbott specifically, that there are people in this state who voted for Donald Trump who don't have an opportunity at true representation because of the way the state is districted.
		And so they're drawing it up for.
		the new trends they've seen since 2024.
		Honestly, I don't care.
		They may say they're cheating.
		Trump is specifically trying to gerrymander, but look to where they flee.
		You know what I'm going to say?
		I'm going to say something I never thought I was going to say, my friends.
		This is going to shock many of you, but shout out to Stephen Colbert.
		I know it hurts to say almost, but Colbert actually confronted Governor Pritzker of Illinois on their ridiculous gerrymandered map.
		Being from that state myself, this one strikes at the core of the issue of gerrymandering.
		Illinois is so psychotic.
		And I know over the past week people have been bringing this up quite a bit over the past several days, but I can't wait to break down this map for you, the gerrymandering map of various states and how they rip us off and have my whole life in Illinois and then have the gall to say that Republicans have done something wrong in Texas.
		Yo, you win elections, you can play that game, and that's exactly what they're doing in Illinois.
		And now they're claiming they're saying we have a retribution plan in various other blue states to do the same thing.
		The only problem, blue states are already heavily gerrymandered, and you can take a look at how the states are structured with or without gerrymandering in the first place in terms of representation.
		So by all means, say what you want to say.
		But when we take a look at a lot of these East Coast states and Midwest states, you've got no room to stand.
		Okay, the funny thing is they say, then we'll gerrymandering.
		You already did, already did.
		To be fair, when you look at the gerrymandering project, this is this, this, uh, educate this university organization that shows the various states, Texas and Illinois aren't doing well as it is.
		They're considered to be bad gerrymanders.
		But I am also going to defend gerrymandering too.
		I'm going to defend this practice.
		It's not always, I mean, gerrymandering does refer to how they isolate districts and make these fake ones.
		But sometimes people look at the shape of a district and they assume it means something nefarious.?
		Not always.
		Not always.
		Sometimes it's because we don't live in communist blockhousing grids.
		And there's reasons why we exclude certain portions from certain districts, which I'll get into.
		But let's break this down, my friends.
		Then later, we'll be joined by a rep from Texas to talk about exactly what's going on and whether or not the FBI should actually get involved.
		Because you got a Texas rep saying the FBI needs to go grab these people, arrest them.
		Arrest warrants have already been issued.
		We'll see how this plays out.
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	We got this from Newsweek.
	Donald Trump issues FBI warning to fleeing Texas Democrats.
	President Trump said the FBI may have to get involved to locate Texas Democrats who fled the state to block redrawn US House maps sought by the president.
	Trump made the remarks during a press conference on Tuesday after being asked about Republican Senator John Corin's request that the FBI helped find and arrest the Democrats.
	Newsweek has contacted the White House, the FBI, and a spokesperson for the Texas House Democrats for a comment via email sent outside regular business hours.
	They say why it matters.
	Dozens of Texas House Democrats left the state on August 3rd in a bid to stall the redrawn congressional maps that Trump wants before the 2026 midterm elections to bolster Republican chances of preserving its majority.
	Republicans hold an 88 to 62 majority.
	Excuse me, the Texas House of Representatives.
	And the Texas Constitution requires that at least 100 members be present to do business.
	With at least 51 Democrats absent, the House failed to reach a quorum for a vote on the new maps on Monday and again on Tuesday.
	Republicans have made numerous attempts to compel Democrats back to the state, including signing civil arrest warrants and mobilizing state troopers.
	Republican Governor Greg Abbott also ordered Texas Rangers to investigate possible bribery charges related to how Democrats are paying for their quorum break, alleging anyone who financially helped them leave the state could be culpable.
	In a letter to Cash Patel, Cornyn urged the agency to take any appropriate steps to aid in Texas state law enforcement efforts to locate and arrest potential lawbreakers who have fled the state.
	Asked about Cornyn's request and whether he wants the FBI to locate and arrest the Democrats who left Texas, Trump told reporters, well, I think they've abandoned the state.
	Nobody has seen anything like it, even though they've done it twice before.
	Heck of a statement there, Donald Trump.
	No one's seen anything like it except for the other two times they've done it.
	And in a certain way, it almost looks like they've abandoned the state.
	It looks very bad.
	Yes.
	I agree.
	Let me just say this so we don't bury the lead.
	They have vacated their seats.
	That's it.
	Now, there's an argument that the governor may try.
	and replace them.
	There's an AG decision that came from the last time they did this.
	I think it was like twenty twenty one.
	I'm going to say this and I ain't playing any games and I'm going to go on a limb and say I think most of you agree.
	Let me know, comment below if you agree.
	The moment they stated their intention was to break quorum, they have vacated their seats and their seats should be considered abandoned and they should be filled by whatever measure appropriate by law.
	That is, temporary replacements by the governor, perhaps if that's how it works or emergency elections, if that's what it takes, perhaps, but they should do it immediately.
	The moment they left the state and said we will not appear you're done you're cooked you left you have vacated your seat i don't know by what argument they're going to try and make that this is not a vacating their seat now we can play again the governor can keep calling special sessions to push this through and he should and i think if there's a certain point that you should be easily able to get a judge say yeah okay there's nobody here to answer this call If the governor calls a special session, you have to come.
	If you choose not to, you quit.
	Let me put it like this.
	What would you call it?
	Actually, we've had this happen here at Timcast.
	Someone just didn't show up anymore.
	It happens.
	A lot of people do that.
	And then after a certain amount of time, we say, you know, look, I know that we do unlimited vacation.
	Like, we're super chilled.
	It's a company where if you don't want to be, you probably shouldn't be.
unidentified		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		At a certain point, we're like, they quit.
		We didn't fire them.
		They just stopped coming.
		And if you stop coming, you quit.
		Why is that any different?
		Now, I know they're going to play dirty games.
		They're going to play dirty games.
		Okay.
		In Texas, you're going to get these judges saying, no, no, it's a protest action.
		They did not quit.
		Play dirty games.
		We'll see what happens.
		But I'm, I'm, I gotta tell you guys the idea that Abbott would actually end up doing it.
		Civil arrest warrants.
		This is a joke.
		Civil arrest warrants.
		I don't think they're going to do anything to these Democrats.
		I don't think they're going to replace them.
		It's just, you know, I can respect Donald Trump calling on Texas to redistrict.
		That's the use of power we expect to see.
		You won an election.
		You have the right to do it.
		Do it.
		And they're going to say, but it's not normal.
		I don't care what's normal.
		It's within the law and we won an election.
		So do it.
		But I doubt they're actually going to do anything.
		They're going to moan.
		They're going to complain and it ain't going to change.
		Now, we saw this a few days ago.
		Governor Greg Abbott ordered the arrest of delinquent Texas House Democrats.
		It's a it's a civil violation.
		They get arrested.
		They get brought back in and that's it.
		And then nothing like they're free to keep doing it.
		So I really don't expect anything substantive to come from this, but we will see.
		We will see.
		One thing they're saying over Politico is that Democrats could be fined nearly $400,000 for fleeing the state.
		What does that even mean?
		What does a fine mean?
		Okay.
		Under Texas House rules, each lawmaker is fined $500 per day for missing official business.
		Are you kidding?
		They're going to disappear for two years.
		Is that what the argument is?
		Two years will be gone up to $400,000.
		They say Texas Democrats stand to be fined nearly $400,,000 for fleeing the state or do they mean all together?
		And should they stay away during potential successive legislative sessions this year, they face more than 3.2 million in penalties.
		Those figures, which Politico calculated based on the fewest lawmakers needed to break quorum, the anticipated length of their out of state trips and the $500 per day fine they're incurring reveal how much pain Democrats are willing to sustain in order to thwart Trump's push to remap Texas to create five more Republican seats.
		It's I the funny thing about this is, and I know most of you probably know this, they're going to get rid of Jasmine Crockett's seat.
		Goodbye.
		And she ain't going to win again because it'll be a Republican leaninging district.
		Under Texas House rules, each lawmaker is fined 500 per day for missing official business without permission.
		To break quorum, at least 51 Democrats must be absent.
		They'll be charged a combined 25,500 per day.
		On Monday, 57 Democrats skipped session, bringing the penalties to 28,500, although it was unclear how many absences were due to the gerrymandering protests.
		Should Democrats refuse to return for the length of the entire legislative session, which will end on August 19th, they could rack up fines totalling at least 382,000.
		And if Republican Governor Greg Abbott chooses to call additional special sessions, which he can, and Democrats choose to stay out of the state, it could exceed upwards of $3.2 million, which means nothing as it will be underwritten by powerful millionaires and billionaires.
		To be fair, the Democrats are very, very unpopular right now.
		Republicans also unpopular are substantially more popular, which is kind of funny.
		But the fleeing lawmakers said they were not deterred by the fines, nor by Abbott's threats to arrest them or vacate their offices.
		I'm not playing this game.
		You vacated your own office when you left.
	Where does it say you're allowed to intentionally break quorum?
	The rule about breaking quorum is to prevent a minority from pushing through bad policy in the event people can't come.
	So if they say, we're going to call everybody here, but we don't have a quorum, so we're not going to do it, that's like for emergencies.
	But what happens when they say, oh, okay, we'll exploit the law so that you can't actually function as a government for which you've won an election?
	Yeah, that's not the intention of the quorum rule.
	And everybody knows it.
	They're just exploiting our goodwill once again.
	Elections have consequences.
	Now, my friends, it is hard for me to say this.
	It is very difficult.
	It almost brings me physical pain to say shout out to Stephen Colbert.
	I'm kidding by the way.
	Shout out to Stephen Colbert legitimately and literally.
	He confronted the Illinois governor on his crazy gerrymandered state.
	Many of these Texas Democrats who fled went to Illinois where the governor made a statement about how if they're going to play dirty then we're going to play dirty.
	Yeah, nice try, dude.
	Nobody plays dirtier than you.
	It is a mob-run, corrupt state where governors have gone to prison back to back to back.
	Dude, when I was a teenager, we had three governors in prison because they're crooked.
	Or, you know, maybe not.
	Maybe they're in prison because the state is run by a corrupt cabal.
	And if whatever happened, the governors weren't playing ball right, you get locked up.
	That's the way it works.
	It was a tradition.
	Governors in Illinois go to prison because they're all scumbag corrupt.
	Well, I'll I'll refrain from the insults, but let me play this clip for you, which I gotta say, I'm I'm kind of impressed.
stephen colbert ▲ ● ▼		You're hosting Texas Democratic lawmakers who fled their state after Republicans tried to redraw their congressional maps between the censuses.
		This is just a pure power grab here.
		How did this come about?
		And what do you know about how this came about?
		And why did they come to Illlinois?
jb pritzker ▲ ● ▼		Well, Donald Trump's trying to steal five seats from the people frankly of the country.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's pause real quick.
		Steal.
		Listen, you broke a quorum.
		It is an exploitation.
		Nobody voted for that.
		However, the rules clearly outline that they can do this, they can redistrict when they want, and that people vote for this.
		That is not a theft.
		The argument actually is you are trying to steal five seats from the Republicans by fleeing and illicitly breaking quorum, which was never intended to be the case.
		taking an action for which you have had civil arrest warrants issued and Donald Trump simply said, you won the election, do this thing.
		Now, you could argue it's dishonorable.
		This is not how we do politics in this country.
		Once a year we redistrict, but spare me on your theft BS.
jb pritzker ▲ ● ▼		Just the people of Texas and disenfranchised people who were talking about, you know, violating the voting rights act and the constitution.
		So the great heroes of the Texas House Democratic caucus decided the only thing they could do in order to stop it was leave Texas.
		And where did they decide to come to?
		the safe haven of the state of Illinois where we're going to protect them and take care of them.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm very proud of them.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There's a reason why I left Illinois.
stephen colbert ▲ ● ▼		I mean, yeah, sure.
		They've, uh, what do you have?
		I'm not going to ask you where you have them stashed.
unidentified		Oh, no.
stephen colbert ▲ ● ▼		But I assume.
stephen colbert ▲ ● ▼		I assume you have them stashed around town, right?
unidentified		Yeah.
jb pritzker ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
jb pritzker ▲ ● ▼		We keep them, you know, the same place that Bush's VP was in, you know?
jb pritzker ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
stephen colbert ▲ ● ▼		So what happens now?
		A lot of governors out there are saying, well, they're going to increase the gerrymander of their states in order to counter what Texas has done.
		California has already said, well, they're going to going to do, they're going to put a plan in place that will wipe out half a dozen Republican seats, but it will only be triggered if Texas goes through with their plan.
		It's kind of like a dead man switch or something like that.
		Can Illinois do something like that?
jb pritzker ▲ ● ▼		It's possible.
jb pritzker ▲ ● ▼		And I've said everything's on the.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to pause real quick.
		And again, shout out to Colbert, they can't do that.
		Wait till you see them.
		I know many of you have seen the map, but I'm going to break it down for you because I've gone a little bit into this.
jb pritzker ▲ ● ▼		I mean, we look, we have to fight fire with fire.
		They've frankly thrown the rule book out and they're just acting in an unconstitutional fashion.
		And what we're going to have to do is whatever it takes to preserve democracy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So let me just try this again real quick.
		When Republicans win the election in Texas and under the law decide to hold a session that will redistrict, which is all legal, constitutional, and is completely abiding by the law and the nature of democracy, and then you break quorum, exploiting the rules to stop the duly elected government from carrying out the whims of their voters.
		I would argue that you are the one who's broken democracy, but sure, words.
stephen colbert ▲ ● ▼		If you are, if you're considering doing a little more little more redrawing in Illinois.
		You already have some crazy districts in Illinois.
		Take a look at this.
		Take a look at this.
		Take a look at 17 here.
		It does that.
		Then it comes up here and it sneaks around there and goes all the way up here and then it goes right over there like that.
		And look at, look at, look at this kind of goes, whoop, up there.
		It's like the stinger on a scorpion down here.
		Is this common for all states to do?
jb pritzker ▲ ● ▼		Well, we hand it over to a kindergarten class and let them decide.
stephen colbert ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		That's the non party group that does this.
		Absolutely.
jb pritzker ▲ ● ▼		That's our independent commission, you know.
		That is, yeah.
		I mean, look.
stephen colbert ▲ ● ▼		So because all states to a certain extent do this, why is what Texas is doing particularly grievous in this case?
jb pritzker ▲ ● ▼		Well, here, every ten years we do a census in this country and right after the census, we redraw districts in every state.
jb pritzker ▲ ● ▼		But what the Republicans are trying to do, and the Texas Republicans, frankly, at the behest of Donald Trump, are doing it mid decades.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So what?
jb pritzker ▲ ● ▼		That is extraordinarily rare.
stephen colbert ▲ ● ▼		That's an important point because I think he literally called them or wrote them and said, hey, I need five seats.
stephen colbert ▲ ● ▼		Go redraw.
jb pritzker ▲ ● ▼		And the way they're doing it is taking voting rights away from black and brown people.
		They're literally obliterating districts that were written according to the Voting Rights Act.
		So this is going to end up in court if they actually are able to do it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Please.
		I love this statement.
		They've kept putting out where they're like.
		He's going to eliminate majority minority districts.
		What?
		Majority minority?
		What do you what?
		Yeah, they don't know what to say when it's not a white majority.
		Majority minority as if all races except for white are one race.
		It's ridiculous statement.
		Let's play ball, baby.
		You want to talk about gerrymandering?
		I give you the gerrymander project from Princeton Edu.
		Now, to be fair, Princeton, take it for what you will.
		They give states scores based on their gerrymandering.
		They say if it's green, it's good.
		If it's yellow, it's better than average, but it's biased.
		C is average.
		If it's red, it's bad.
		And then there's insufficient data on Alaska and Hawaii.
		I don't know.
		Could it be that Alaska has one district?
		I mean, come on.
		And so does North Dakota.
		Partisan advantage, none.
		Take a look at Illinois.
		Illinois and Texas are both considered to be bad, but Texas in the House gets a C and Illinois in the House gets a, I'm sorry, congressional score is actually an F because there's Senate.
		I don't know.
		That's ridiculous, but let's just do this.
		Let's pull up the congressional map for Illinois.
		Oh boy, how fun.
		How fun.
		Take a look at this district, 15.
		15, as Colbert shows, wraps around, I can't say that stupid things in the way.
		And look how it wraps around.
		Are you kidding me?
		District 13.
		Someone said it's not a district, it's a road trip.
		That's true.
		And guess what?
		That weird, oddly shaped district is Democrat.
		Now here's what I really love about the corruption of Illinois.
		I've got this from Politico.
		This is the 2024 election breakdown for Illinois with Kamala Harris winning 54.8% to Donald Trump's 43.8%.
		Okay, to be fair, it's a Democrat state, and it always has been by the hard numbers.
		Fine.
		Take a look at these jurisdictions.
		Hey, wait a minute.
		Remember that weirdly shaped stretch of this District 13, which goes from St. Louis to Urbana?
		Take a look at this.
		St. Louis to Urbana.
		Hey, it runs two big cities through a stretch of rural area for the purpose of creating a fake Democrat majority.
		Illinois.
		Now let's just do some math.
		You want to be fair?
		You want to be fair?
		That's what I love about the Princeton thing saying in the house, it gets a B actually.
		Their overall grades an F. All right, fine.
		They get an overall F. Let me tell you, my friends, if, let's just do this math.
		If it is 54% Democrat and 43% Republican, and there are 17 seats, what math could we be looking at?
		Would say 10 Democrat seats to 7 Republican sound fair to you?
		Yeah, probably.
		I mean, it's 54 to 43, so the Democrats do have a slight edge in the majority.
		Maybe we could say, you know, 9 to 8.
	nine to eight, you know, ten to seven seems fine.
	I'll give a little bit of weight to the Democrats.
	Hey, let's pull it up.
	Our good buddy Chad GPT's got the count for us.
	Here are the current seventeen U. S. House congressional districts in Illinois, along with their incumbent representatives and party affiliation based on a delegation as of the one hundred nineteenth Congress sworn in in twenty twenty five.
	So seventeen, seventeen.
	How many of them do you think are Republicans?
	Would you guess seven?
	You'd be wrong.
	It's three.
	Three in a state that is forty three.
	43% we can we can round up and say 54% Democrat, 44% Republican, almost half.
	I got no problem giving Democrats a slight edge by saying 10 to 7, but in a state that is nearly 50-50, they've drawn it up in such a way to give Republicans only three seats.
	You want to play a game?
	You cannot play that game, Pritzker.
	You cannot gerrymandering beyond this.
	This is the extent to which they've been able to effectively rip off this country already with their gerrymandering.
	So when you come to me and say, but Texas is bad, I say, I don't care.
	They get an overall grade of an F from Princeton as well.
	I literally don't care.
	This is the name of the game.
	Elections have consequences.
	Okay.
	Take a look at beautiful West Virginia.
	You know, these at large states, there's no partisan advantage because West Virginia is like 80% Republican.
	And, well, to be fair, West Virginia's not at large.
	They have three seats.
	But look at that.
	None.
	Partisan advantage.
	None.
	That's impressive.
	for West Virginia.
	Look at that.
	West Virginia, best Virginia.
	California is graded at a B, congressional overall grade of a B. Now, California wants to play dirty, and they're going to carve the state up to eliminate, what did they say, 12 Republican districts?
	That means they're mostly going to eliminate the districts in LA which lean to the right.
	I really doubt they're going to get rid of like the Tulary County stuff or I don't know what is that Bakers no Bakersfield's blue to be fair.
	I don't even trust Princeton on this one.
	Let's zoom in on the surrounding LA area.
	They could absolutely gerrymander to eliminate these districts which you've got district 45 but eliminating twelve do they even have that many congressional seats that are Republican because I gotta be honest.
	Looks like I got one, two, three, four, five, six, seven.
	But they said upwards of twelve.
	Let's do quick math on this one.
	How many Republicans in CA Congress, in CA Federal Congress?
	They probably got a bunch because they have what, 50 some odd seats.
	So they probably do.
	So there's 12.
	In California, the U.S. House of Representatives currently has 12 Republican members.
	So they're saying they would just quite literally eliminate all Republicans from the state.
	Bro, play that game.
	Come on.
	I don't care.
	I don't care.
	Play that game.
	It is stupid and it is silly.
	And that's what they're saying they're going to do.
	Democrats have drawn up plans to retaliate if Republicans gerrymandering Texas, but they face legal hurdles by all means let it come down to the courts whatever they're basically saying they're going to try and rip the system off the same as you know republicans but i'm gonna i'm gonna say this i'm gonna say this let's play ball i i would argue donald trump should right now eliminate non-citizens from the census through executive order whatever he's got to do right when they try to
	do this and then challenge it in court to void their redistricting based upon that fact because if they want to play ball we can play ball today the censuses every ten years and don't give me you know what i can't stand more than anything anything when people say things, but Tim, that they can't do that because the courts, no, no, you can do whatever you want.
	We are human beings, we're not robots, okay?
	Trump can do things, Democrats can do things, they do it now.
	You can't break quorum, they did.
	They've had warrants for the rest, so what?
	Nothing's going to change.
	Obama can't go after Trump and accuse him of treason, he did.
	Will there be consequences?
	Most people don't think so.
	The reality is willpower is what matters.
	And all that it takes is Republicans decide to actually exercise their power.
	Democrats have been playing fast and loose and dirty forever, the same as Republicans.
	Don't get like them either.
	The point is right now when they're trying to play this game of Republicans are doing something unprecedented and wrong.
	It's like, bro, we all looked at Illinois.
	Okay, I grew up there.
	Spare me your lies where you create a fake district to disenfranchise rural conservative voters so you can connect Saint Louis with Urbana and then say, well, now it's a Democrat district.
	Yeah, because you connected two cities that otherwise would not have made a Democrat district.
	Spare me your lies.
	But you know what?
	Let me stress, my friends, far be it from me to tell Texas how to do what Texas needs to do.
	So we're going to be joined by a rep from the Texas House of Representatives.
	I believe we have lined up Briscoe K. Let me just double check to make sure with the crew.
	Briscoe K. will be joining us.
	That's going to be at 4 pm at youtube.com/timcast or rumble.com/timpool.
	You don't want to miss it because they're going to tell me what for.
	Far be it from me to tell Texas how to live their lives, right?
	I live in West Virginia, best Virginia, and we don't have these problems for the most part.
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	For everybody else, let's get ready.
	We have this story from the Guardian.
	Texas Senator asks the FBI to help locate and arrest Democrats for leaving the state.
	John Cornyn ramps up gerrymandering showdown between lawmakers and Trump administration seeking GOP seats.
	You gotta hand it to Texas, they tend to be the ones getting the ball rolling.
	You got Ken Paxton, you got Abbott.
	They're doing all right.
	Now many people have complained about the actions Abbott has taken in the past, saying that he's largely still just helping Democrats.
	Maybe.
	But it does seem like on cultural issues we got Missouri and we got Texas.
	Now right now., the battle is raging on.
	Donald Trump has said maybe the FBI does need to get involved when asked about John Cornyn's call.
	Send in the feds to force these people back.
	But this is a state issue.
	It is a state issue.
	Now, the question is, do these Democrats who have fled Texas have the right to break quorum?
	For those who miss the story, the quick gist is this.
	The Republicans want to redistrict.
	Such a new redistricting could swing the state or could swing the Congress for Republicans by five seats.
	The new map would eliminate certain Democrat seats and create weight for Republicans in those districts.
	This would give Trump a massive advantage.
	The story is that Trump personally called and said, do the redistricting now.
	I need those seats for 2026.
	Democrats have said this is unconstitutional and that you're breaking the rules.
	It's not unconstitutional.
	It's not violating the law.
	It's just untoward.
	It is extremely rare that a redistricting happens mid census like this, we're in, we're between two censuses, sensi, whatever.
	And so they're saying it's unjust.
	Well, let's do this.
	I am going to bring in a rep from Texas, Briscoe Cain, who's going to break down for us exactly what's going on and the rules and their plans.
	Let me load this interview right now and get that show going.
unidentified		All right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Here we go.
		Loading it up.
		Looks like we are good.
		Let's hit it.
		All right.
		It looks like a good sir.
		Can you hear me?
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		I can.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		How's it going, Tim?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's going pretty well.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So you're a rep in the Texas House?
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		I am.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Do you want to give a quick introduction to who you are and your...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		your district and What you do?
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I've served five terms in Texas House.
		I'm the chairman of the Texas House Freedom Caucus and represent a lot of the port of Houston, which some people may not be familiar with, but that's.
		we produce, I don't know, close to 90% of the jet fuel for the country.
		It's considered the largest manufacturing complex on Earth.
		Wow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let me just...
		I'm going to jump straight to it.
		Should these Democrats who have fled your state be arrested for breaking quorum and fleeing?
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely.
		Sooner than later, I'm a little irritated at leadership kind of dragging their feet, not doing it yet, right?
		They've given them till Friday.
		It's nonsense.
		Arrest them, bring them in.
		Because we only need, we only need six, Tim.
		You need six to come in.
		Yeah, we just need six more.
		We have 88 Republicans.
		So we need 12 Democrats.
		Six are here.
		And we can discuss that, right?
		I don't know if it might help the audience understand that.
		We're one of four states.
		There were originally more than that that that have a two thirds quorum requirement.
		That's two thirds of the elected, right?
		So we have to have 100 to do business, you know?
		And the constitution needs to be amended, but to do so we need 100.
		And the odds of any Democrats ever voting with us to do that is pretty low.
		But the purpose, the historical purpose of it, was our days of horseback and walking, you know?
		And so if some state legislature was going to convene on a certain day, obviously you had to kind of wait., right?
		You couldn't plan your trip.
		You knew it was like seven, eight days to the capital or something like that, right?
		Those days are gone.
		And I wish we would have listened to Madison, or at least it's said that Madison wrote it.
		I believe it's Federalist 58, actually, where he points out like, this is a bad idea.
		It will cause this folly.
		It will allow the minority to take over.
		And it was a bit of an oversight, because if you take it to its extreme, does that mean they could just literally not show up on day one of a session?
		and kill two years is the only thing is for them to face voters is that the only punishment of course not that that's ludicrous to think so.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let me ask you, there were civil arrest warrants that were issued.
		And so it's a confusing thing because how could you arrest someone on a civil violation?
		Are there any long term penalties beyond fines for these civil arrest warrants?
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they're certainly.
		And there could be.
		So they're civil because, right, the Speaker of the House is not a criminal magistrate, but they're legitimate arrest warrants.
		And it goes through the Sergeant at Arms and then, thankfully, the governor is tasked DPS with assisting and that includes the Texas Rangers.
		And sadly though, the Speaker kind of gave them until Friday., look, I know of three that are in Houston right now that never left.
		Now, granted, it might look bad.
		These are some of our older folks and, you know, the deeds could probably make a heyday off of claiming that you arrested grandma, but grandma's not doing her job and she shouldn't have any of the benefits of seniority or their extra money.
		We need to go after all of it.
		There's also things that look like bribery.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it does.
		I mean, they're, they're, my understanding is that some of these members have been fundraising.
		There have been efforts to raise money on their behalf for this effort.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		Exactly, man.
		I don't know if you want to, I can read you the statute if you're interested.
		I know we don't have more time, but it's section 3602 of the Texas Penal Code.
		We'll go over there.
		It says, a person commits an offense if he intentionally or knowingly offers, confers or agrees to confer on another solicits, accepts or agrees to accept from another person any benefit as consideration for the recipient's decision, opinion, recommendation, vote.
		or other exercise of discretion as a public servant, party official, or voter.
unidentified		Some of this sounds like it might be on point, man.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So have there been fundraising efforts from these Democrats in this area?
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, certainly so.
		In fact, I think recently Jasmine Crockett kind of got caught mentioning doing exactly that, not just fundraising, but helping to fund their lifestyle, to fund them there.
		They funded the private jet to help them leave, right, in exchange for their discretion not to be there.
		They got on private jets.
		And so that has to be reported.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Life's good.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		I can't fly on a private jet without having to report that on my ethics expenditure, okay?
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		are serious problems so and the fines the fines are cool i mean we we get paid you know a handsome seven hundred dollars a month um for it, $500 a day, plus the cost of having to go get them.
unidentified		Wow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So this is, uh, this is a weird thing to me.
		Uh, any job on the planet, if you, uh, if you are called in by your boss for what is part of your job, part of your contract, and you go, nah, I'm hopping a private jet and leaving and I won't be back.
		That's called quitting.
		So how is it that they have not vacated their seat by their own admission by saying we will not be present?
		I mean, they've publicly admitted this, admitted this is what they're doing and why.
		Shouldn't that be statement enough to say we have vacated our seats?
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Of course, it's going to be left to the courts and they're going to have to struggle with where's the line, right?
		We gave an extreme example earlier, like you could not show up for two years and literally prevent the legislature from doing anything.
		Well, that would be weird if the only repercussions were the voters.
		It doesn't make sense.
		So where is it?
		Do you have to express some intent to return right now?
		They've got no they've expressed no present intent to come back, right?
		If you're like, hey, I'll be back in a few days, you go, okay, they haven't abandoned it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		Right now, they're like, we're never coming back.
		You know, screw you guys.
		It sounds like abandonment, right?
		And so not only should they face repercussions from the voters at the ballot box, which the past.
		The past two times, which is 2004, they broke quorum.
		They ran off to Oklahoma and New Mexico.
		That was a redistricting year.
		When we came back, the Republican majority grew.
		After 2021, when they broke quorum, they went off to DC.
		They were then nicknamed the Miller Dees.
		That's because they had a 24-pack of Miller Light there on the bus with them when they were leaving.
		I remember this one well.
		That was actually my bill.
		I was the chairman of elections and that was my bill when they walked off the floor that day.
		We grew the Republican majority after that as well.
		And some of them lost their seats and we still did it anyways and I think this time it's going to be even worse.
		Anybody paying attention to Texas politics may know that our speaker was elected with a majority of the minority party.
		And so there's been a coalition speakership.
		And what they're doing now, I believe, is actually uniting the moderates and the conservatives in the House against them.
		And I think they've committed political suicide.
		They don't realize it.
		no longer for a while it was theory rumored that in order for them to say you know the speakers may be offering things right taking certain things off the table well now I mean, there's literally no reason for leadership to give them absolutely anything.
		We should shove it all down their throat when we get them back.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So on this bribery point, do There should at least be a grand jury investigation.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		Seems reasonable.
		I can't speak to whether they've definitely done it.
		It's not my area of law.
		I mean, the plain reading of it kind of smells bad and looks wrong, and someone needs to investigate.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, especially.
		Well, let me ask you now about the redistricting effort itself.
		The argument that's being made by Democrats, you know, Governor JB Pritzker went on Colbert and said, Trump called Texas and said, I need five seats.
		It is exceedingly rare to have a redistricting in the middle of a decade before the census comes in and that this violates the Voting Rights Act and the Constitution.
		So the first question is, why are you guys redistricting right now?
		And what do you have to say about Pritzker's comments?
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Well, Pritzker's, of course, talking out his rear end trying to claim this violates the Constitution.
		Those things are left to the states, as you may know, and it's perfectly fine for us to do so.
		In fact, there's a case out of Galveston, Galveston County, that's the island down here on our coast that allowed them to do a similar thing based on their on their redistricting.
		And so for some time now we realized we could do that and it was an opportunity.
		But also the states change, not just because of the open border policies, but somewhat our good policies.
		We're attracting people from those states and they're fleeing.
		And so to adjust for those demographics and that change, it would only make sense that we adjust our seats.
		Because we have a one man, one vote rule.
		And through an interpretation of some federal case law, the seats must be almost perfectly identical.
		We're meeting 766,987 people, plus one or minus one.
unidentified		Right?
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		So you've got to get perfect.
		And obviously, there needed to be an adjustment over the last five years from the, you know, 13 plus million illegals who've come, because right, it's it's not based on voters, it's based on population, at least that's the current interpretation of things.
		And, and look, I think we're here to correct unconstitutional gerrymandering and to correct those things to ensure fair representation.
		That's the idea.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But what triggered this?
		Was it really, you know, Donald Trump calling and saying, what can we do in Texas?
		Or is this something that you guys have been planning?
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		It I can't answer that because you don't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We're not getting trouble.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		This is going to be heavily, heavily litigated.
		I can just say that I had been talking about it for over a year with some other folks that we were allowed to at least because of this Galveston County case.
		Now, it doesn't mean they did it in response to me, but people were aware of the opportunity.
		Absolutely.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So what do you mean by opportunity?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That sounds like it's political.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		The opportunity to fix to fix wrongs.
		It's an opportunity to fix wrongs.
		Right?
		It's to fix racial gerrymandering.
		It's to fix with the VRA and the requirements of it.
		Really, when you get to the heart of it, it's racist.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So explain that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What is that?
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I remember redistricting in 2021 when I was first running for state rep. There's a freedmen's town, an old freedmen's town in my district, or actually it's not in my district.
		It's carved out.
		You're going up the line, all of a sudden this box comes over and it goes up.
		And I remember being really excited that I could go and talk with these people.
		And then I realized they're not in the district.
		And I remember going, well, that looks like racial gerrymandering.
		They're carved out.
		Why?
		Federal law required them to be with their own people.
		It would have been illegal to put them in my district.
		And that's offensive, but that's what the VRA was requiring, right?
		And so this is an opportunity to correct some of those wrongs that to allow for fair representation and to allow people to have, they call them communities of interest.
		Well, why not communities?
		Why not entire cities as opposed to some, this special class?
		It doesn't make sense.
		So yeah, that's what I think I mean.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And is that something that, you know, I don't know if you would know this because you're in Texas, but is that affecting all states?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is it a federal law?
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		If you'll quote me on this one, there are still some states generally in the South that are under certain kind of these, what they call pre-clearance rules and stuff.
		And I'm not an expert on that, but wow.
		So it applies to some of us and not others.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It was funny because I've been hearing a lot of statements from Democrats where they keep saying majority minority districts.
		And I'm thinking about it, what does that mean?
		It's like they're acting like there are two races, white and not white.
		Right?
		So you say majority, what was it, majority minority?
		Like, what?
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		Or you'll hear the word minority coalition as if they own all people who aren't the same.
		Right.
		And you hear it in their interviews, like black and brown.
unidentified		Like, it's so terrible.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		And I know, thank God, at least our generation or at least people with moral clarity.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		or intellectual honesty recognize that that's nonsense and it does nothing but harm and divide.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		So what are people in these areas saying?
		That what I've heard is that there are districts that are Hispanic that voted for Trump, voted for Republicans, but are being forced through this racial gerrymandering to be in districts where they'll never have their voices heard and it's going to go Democrat.
unidentified		Yeah.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		Bingo.
		I can think of a district, a house district next to me.
		It's House district 144.
		We sadly, Republicans failed to put a candidate on the ballot and Trump won it like 53 percent.
unidentified		Wow.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		It's a still winning because conservativism speaks to them, right?
		Through their opportunities and family values and just wanting the government to get out of their lives.
		But you guys didn't have a winning message.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You guys didn't have a candidate for the House on the ballot in that district?
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		No.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So it just default Democrat?
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		Oh man.
		And so that's what they're complaining about.
		One of those seats, that seat would now be in what was, That's why Al Green is freaking out, realizing he's about to be out of Congress.
		And that area that's currently represented by Democrat State Rep, the numbers say that's not it.
		You don't own those people.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, Al Green shouldn't be in Congress as far as I'm concerned.
		When he wiggled his cane screaming at Trump during the State of the Union, the House tried to censure him and Democrats swelled up in the well singing songs, obstructing the censure of this guy and it was only a censure.
		It is remarkable to me that over the past decade plus, Democrats have repeatedly across this country, either at the state level or federal level, even city level, violated the law, broke the rules, but then act like it's an affront to them when Republicans say, oh, hey, look, this is legal and we can do this.
		They then accuse you of breaking the law.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		I've seen you've been covering that, right?
		Showing the maps and things.
		You know, it's funny the states they flew off to.
		They're probably all around.
		But right, you went to Boston, Massachusetts, zero Republican congressional seats, even though I think Republicans performed 40% there.
unidentified		Wow.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		And they went to Illinois.
		Look at those.
		Yep.
		Republicans perform better there on the presidential election, but they gerrymandered the heck out of those things.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Illinois is 44% Republican as a state with three of 17 seats being Republican.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		Bingo.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		You get it.
unidentified		Yeah.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		And when you look at our proposed map, they're much more concentrateded.
		You don't see these crazy spider leg things.
		And I'll remind you, they're going to look weird, right?
		As I just mentioned, based on the population requirements that they be equal, people don't live in equal little squares, right?
		So you're going to have drawings that look funny.
		Just FYI, I know every time somebody thinks something doesn't look like a square, it must be quote unquote gerrymandering.
		But there's that's a legal term.
		Gerrymandering is illegal.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think we covered this back in 2021 or whenever the last redistricting was, because there was one district, I can't remember where it was.
		I think it's like in the Houston area or something.
		And it's like a weird U shape.
		And a lot of people were saying that's gerrymandering and gerrymandering is bad.
		But when we actually when you actually broke it down, it's because some of the areas that are covered, nobody lives in and has nothing to do with that community.
		So people assume that because the maps are drawn in weird shapes, it means gerrymandering.
		No gerrymandering is Illinois.
		East Saint Louis stretches in this long strip up to Urbana for the express purpose of combining two liberal cities and then everything in between which is rural has no voice.
		And so these these people in Texas, these Texas dems, they fly there and Pritzker had the nerve to go on Colbert and say one it was as a joke it was drawn up by kindergarteners as if to downplay the fact that they've intentionally stolen seats from Republicans, but then he has the nerve to say, we will gerrymandering more.
		Here's the funny thing, they can't.
		They literally could not do more than they've already done in a bunch of these states.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		They could squeeze nothing left out.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's amazing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Blood from a turnip.
		So do you think Abbott is prepared to call more sessions over and over again to get this job done?
		Or do you think Democrats might win this one?
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		No, absolutely.
		They're not going to win this one.
		And they lose every time afterwards.
		And I'm, I'm, I'm grateful for the governor standing up for the fight and being creative, you know, filing his petition to have the Supreme Court declare Gene Wu's seat vacant.
		Gene Wu's a Republican, not a Republican, a Democrat from Houston.
		He's actually the chairman of the House Democrat caucus.
		And, you know, will it work?
unidentified		I don't know.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		So it's kind of like how Trump just is like, I got an idea, let's go for it, you know, give it your best shot.
		Don't just always count it out.
		And so it's a good thing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He did declare that vacant.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		Well, he's filed a writ with the Texas Supreme Court seeking it to be declared vacant.
		And the Attorney General's also a few hours later filed a case.
		And that was yesterday.
unidentified		Let's go.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		But how do you think the argument is you've abandoned your seat, right?
		It's like if you didn't give a letter of resignation when you left the job, but you didn't show up, show up to work for a week and no call, no show.
		They're kind of like, I think that guy quit.
		That's these circumstances, right?
		It's like, I have a feeling they quit.
		They're not planning to come back.
		I think we should go ahead and declare their seat vacant, order a special election, which, by the way, could be a great opportunity for Republicans.
		Maybe flip some seats for a little bit.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What do you think the Supreme Court of Texas leans?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Are they, you think they're going to go Republican or what?
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		I don't know what they'll do.
unidentified		I hope they will, I hope they'll follow the law.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		Of course, I would like for them to side with me politically, but not the expense of the integrity of the institution.
		That's far more important, right?
		That's the thing that I think separates us from the left is that process matters, that law matters, that we still have that moral high ground.
		But I'm hopeful.
		And I'm actually in talks with a few of my colleagues on whether we're going to do some amicus letters and things advocating for it or explaining kind of the reasons, especially some of the historical context of why that quorum requirement's there.
		Because the Democrats are arguing like this is a legitimate procedure.
		It's not legitimate at all.
		It's pure obstructionism.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm sick of the politicking across the board across the country.
		The purpose of the quorum, you already mentioned it, but back in the day when you're walking, the idea was, hey, if people aren't here, we don't want the minority rushing in and then passing bills against the will of the voters in the state.
		The quorum rule is basically to be fair, but it's being exploited by people who've lost the elections.
		That's it, elections have consequences.
		So the politicing is, here's my concern is the judges are going to be not weighing the lawhing the implications politically.
		And that's what we see over and over and over again way too often.
		It's simple.
		If you were judging this honestly, you'd say the quorum rule is not to be exploited to shut down Congress.
		You have every opportunity to be at your session and do your job that you agreed to do.
		And if you've chosen not to be there, there's some leeway.
		But after a few days, you have quit.
		You are no longer working that job.
		Vacated.
		Done with it.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		You know, I see.
		I would say in Texas, our judges are elected statewide.
		So they stand for election and they're not strangers to political pressures or name calling.
		And what I'm going to say is I think our state judges, at least elected judges, kind of tend to stand political pressure a little better than the federal appointed guys, right?
		Who grew up in this bubble, never been named before, never had anyone yell at them or send mail or put up billboards.
		Those guys tend to kind of back down a lot easier than some of the elected ones.
		And so I think they'll do the right thing.
		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I hope so.
		I mean, one thing we've seen over the past decade plus is the left has been particularly good at organizing pressure campaigns.
		So the real question for a lot of these elected officials and just judges in general, I mean, with all due respect to the Supreme Court, I think they've done pretty well recently, but you look at Amy Coney Barrett's rulings after someone threatened someone actually tried to kill Brett Kavanaugh.
		They bend.
		They bend.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		I absolutely no doubt that federal judges do that.
		Yes, one hundred percent.
		I've talked with some bodies that do federal practice and they've discussed that exact thing.
		That one, there needs to be a defense to it.
		Why aren't we doing the same thing to those guys or at least their people?
		If it works, or at least if it's bad.
		But yep, you're right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'll put it as what you know, we had that famous court case Texas v.
		Pennsylvania back in 2021.
		I think end of 2020, 2021 over the election.
		Texas as a state arguing that other states violated the constitution by the election.
		by altering the rules of federal elections without going through their state legislatures.
		And the Supreme Court, except for Alito and Thomas, said, nah, we're not even going to hear the arguments, which is cowardice.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		I mean, drove me nuts.
		I was in Pennsylvania during after the election.
		And the case, it was the Mike Kelly lawsuit.
		So actually five Texans and two New Yorkers that came up with the idea and we pitched it and then eventually, you know, the big boys kind of stepped in.
		And it was exactly that exact point that you can't alter these things.
		In fact, what was fascinating is Pennsylvania's constitution set forth when you could do mail and balloting.
unidentified		Yep.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		And, and it.
		And so they passed the thing to amend that constitution.
		Now in Pennsylvania, in order to amend the constitution, the resolution to do so has to pass in two consecutive sessions.
		So they hadn't done it yet.
		Like it hadn't even gone to the voters, yet they still did it.
		And the Supreme Court totally dumped it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like, yep.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		You weren't allowed to do that, man.
		Now, I don't know if the relief was viable, right?
		It's asking to toss the whole thing out.
		That may not be realistic, but they could at least say, hey, what you all did was unconstitutional.
		At a minimum, just pointed out you weren't allowed to do that.
		That would have been great.
		You had instead they were cowards.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's my concern across the board, right?
		I talked to a state prosecutor in West Virginia and a previous AG who's now governor.
		And I said, why aren't we seeing red states do what Democrats do in blue states?
		That is, bring charges against their political opponents for things in which charges are warranted.
		I don't want to see, you know, some random Democrat charge on a fake charge like they did to Trump.
		But I'm saying with like the Clinton email server, for instance, was she campaigning at all in West Virginia?
		Yes, she was.
		Are there potential violations that the state, of course they could find these violations.
		And everybody keeps asking why the federal government doesn't intervene when it's.
		the states.
		The states could be doing a lot of this and Texas has been doing that.
		Even right now, I see is what you guys are doing, often leading the charge in these challenges.
		But where are the rest of these Republican states to take any action?
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		No idea.
		I mean, one, we're blessed with that beautiful gold.
		It's actually black stuff that comes out of the ground that helps kind of fund our government and have the teams of lawyers.
		I do recognize not every state has the budget.
		right that we have to to put that team together and put those cases together.
		So sometimes you'll see us leading on that reason alone, right?
		Some people just literally can't afford it.
		And aside from the idea, we talked about it before, right?
		We're the left., that is their religion, that's who they are.
		And I realize as conservatives, we have families and jobs.
		I've got five boys.
		We're homeschool family as well.
		That's right.
		I'm a single income earner, essentially having to work part-time with this other part-time gig.
		But if you're going to step into it, go full-board.
		Don't do it halfway.
		I mean, be serious about it.
		Americans want fighters.
		We don't just want somebody to come up and...
		I mean, there was a mandate sent for us to fight back against the left's oppression.
		We have to.
		It's only a narrow amount of time.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		With what we're seeing democrats do in your state saying they're not going to come back, politicos reporting a fine of over $400,000 per special session called by the governor.
		Civil arrest warrants.
		I mean, it sounds like the only way this gets resolved is if the state is willing to actually enforce action against these Democrats or at least take the interpretation.
		If the courts don't say the seats are vacated, Democrats can just say fine us, we don't care.
		And then you guys are just gridlocked.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		You're so right.
		There has to be consequences.
		And I was only here for the 2021 quorum break.
		But after all of us kind of sit here for like two and a half months doing nothing, waiting on them to return, right?
		Interrupting our lives and being away from whatever, right?
		And we signed up for it.
		I get that.
		I don't want to get a pity party.
		And they return.
		Essentially, it all went back to normal for most people.
		I mean, they still get tons of pork in the budget, way more than freaking Republicans.
		They still pass bills, way more than Republicans.
		They still get to participate.
		They get this session.
		They're vice chairs with essentially the same powers, chairmanships.
		They get this money and they leave.
		And I hope it's different this time.
		I hope when they come back.
		that all bets are off, that it unites actually the Republican caucus and we stop even doing that because the excuse we hear all the time is, well, we have to do that because Texas has 100 cor corn requirement.
		Whatever.
		Okay, let's shove it down our throats.
		We elected this majority.
		That's all we need to pass bills.
		If they don't want to show up, well, they didn't show up and we'll start vacating their seats.
		So there'll be suffering consequences at the ballot box.
		I don't know why we're negotiating with them though.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think governors should just do it.
		If the courts drag their feet or play dirty games, we need men of action.
		We need people who are going to say, listen, I'm not playing this game where you can leave, violate the spirit of our laws and our goodwill to steal political power in this state and in this country anymore.
		So just say, no, we're you know what you should do?
		Just pass the resolution without quorum.
		And the problem is very few people have the political will to even do it.
		Just do it.
		Let them sue you for violating quorum.
		Let them bring the fight to its side.
		You have to bring the fight to them.
		Just do it.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		Man, exactly.
		And right now, they won't even let us on the front mic to maybe even give a speech or talk about it because we don't have a quorum.
		I couldn't agree more, right?
		We should just do it anyway.
		See what they do about it.
		Yeah.
		Either way, it will still be a great exercise.
		We can show that we're fighting for it.
		Because man, it's tough, right?
		The legislature is unique.
		We get all the time, like, well, why didn't you pass the bill?
		Just do it.
		And, you know, that our system of government wasn't set up up that way right the legislative branch is the most powerful branch i mean i'm going to blow up a myth real quick we're not co-equal okay congress texas house it was given gobs of power right plenary power meaning we can do anything we want unless prohibited in the constitution the other branches can only do what they're allowed to do but we're restrained right i've got to convince the other chamber to agree you got to get past a governor's veto or get to a governor's signature it was made really hard to do but
		there are people in positions that can do it without anyone else right and thankfully the governor's going for that in a g but well we got to we got a little bit of time but but who's who's stopping you from just going to the floor.
		Well, you know, the, the, you're going to love this one.
		The parliamentarian won't allow it.
		But who cares?
		I'm with you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If I was a speaker, I would say that.
		Thank you for those words, parliamentarian.
		We're calling the session anyway.
		Goodbye.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
		Last time, we just went ahead and started having our own hearings informally, even if it wasn't part of a committee.
		I mean, there's no reason that, you know, just ten or twelve legislators who feel like working just get together and talk about things.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We are human beings.
		What we say is what we do.
		And this idea that there is this structure in place by which Democrats can exploit it to stop us makes literally no sense.
		Well, I don't understand why it is.
		Democrats can do things that break the constitution and get away with it, and Republicans go, but a parliamentarian won't let us speak.
		Now, look, you know, without going in circles, were I in a position of power, I just feel like a parliamentarian, you can leave.
		This is a formal session, it is official and it is done by if the Democrats can break the rules, so can we, and they can bring it to court and challenge it, and then we'll see what happens.
		But I don't want to rant.
		I do appreciate you coming on.
		Is there anything else you wanted to add before we go that people should know?
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		No, I just hope some of my colleagues, you know, hear your words of encouragement and realize that there is more to be done.
		They don't have to just sit around and wait.
		But it's odd Because it's almost like they're afraid of offending them because they want to work with them.
		They come back.
		I don't get it.
		If they were to tell their voters that, they would be so pissed off, like, oh, I'm nice to them because we're going to get along.
		That's not what you said on the campaign trail.
unidentified		Right.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		I assure you of that.
		So thank you.
		We just need six.
		You know, look, maybe if there's a couple of Bubbles out there with some, you know, big old pickup trucks, some Florida guys, some Georgia boys, just go find six of them and bring them back to Texas.
		So we can get our job done right on.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Rep Kane, thanks for joining me.
		I appreciate it.
		And we'll see you next time.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		Howdy guys.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Take care.
		All right, I, you know, I'm just going to say it one more time.
		I want people to do things.
		So that was, of course, that was a rep Briscoe Kane.
		Really appreciate him joining and explaining everything that's going on.
		We're going to get that raid going for you guys to go join our friend Russell Brand, but I got to say it one more time because this one just strikes the heart, man.
		Democrats have decided in Texas, we will violate the spirit of the rules, okay?
		They're exploiting the rules by breaking quorum.
		That was never the intent.
		They're willing to face arrest.
		They're willing to face fines for violations.
		They don't care that the Republicans threaten weight of law against them.
		Where the Republicans to say, we will play in kind.
		The session will happen without you.
		The quorum rule will be damned because you broke it in the first place.
		Sue me.
		I'm not playing this game where I have to sue you.
		You sue me.
		I will do it anyway.
		You sue me.
		I'm sick of hearing these, but the speaker said no or the parliamentarian said no.
		You think the Democrats cared when they broke quorum?
		No.
		They're challenging you to sue them.
		Let's play that game.
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