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June 16, 2025 - Tim Pool Daily Show
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U.S. Preparing For DIRECT WAR With IRAN, Air Tankers & Strike Group Deployed
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Things have been heating up in the Middle East, particularly over Israel and Iran, with both countries striking at each other, deaths in the dozen.
Iran's taken way more casualties, more than Israel, though Israel, I believe the death toll may be around 24 and growing.
It may be higher at this point.
But Israel is now claiming complete air superiority over Iran as tensions escalate.
But the news for the Americans.
The U.S. is deploying the aircraft carrier USS Nimitz, as well as, it appears, 30 air refueling tankers.
People begin to speculate when they start tracking the flight paths of 30 refueling tankers, big aircraft used for refueling, I believe, F-16s, U.S. and Western shorter-range fighter jets.
It appears these are not needed and not headed to a multinational training exercise.
And the speculation across the board is that this is a deployment to the Middle East for the purpose of refueling U.S. aircraft as they begin airstrikes on Iran.
With speculation, of course, being Israel paved the way with strikes, taking out the air defense systems in Iran, which have always been a major blockage.
We'll put it that way.
For U.S. military strikes.
The U.S. operates on air superiority principally.
And Iran has great military defense against airstrikes.
Now that Israel's claimed superiority, the speculation is the U.S. will begin strikes of its own.
And these refueling tankers will provide the fuel necessary for the return trip of these jets.
We don't know exactly what's going to happen, but of course, the US is already involved in the war, just not directly against Iran.
The US has deployed several defensive measures for Israel.
To shoot down the rockets that are striking Israel or attempting to from Iran.
So the United States is very much involved in this war.
But the argument we often get from those that want us to be involved is that, no, no, no, guys, listen, this is not boots on the ground.
This is military assets in the region.
I don't play these games, my friends.
The U.S. is involved or it isn't.
Doesn't have to be our guy standing there with the weapon when it's our battleship firing missiles.
When it's our weapons handed off to Israel, we are involved and our adversaries will see it that way.
That being said, I think Iran's screwed.
I don't see a scenario where Iran's allies rush to its defense over these strikes.
However, Pakistan is threatening to nuclear strike Israel if they use a nuclear weapon themselves.
So it may be not that any large enemy But it may be that smaller nations do escalate conflict.
And then we don't have World War III.
We have a world at war, which is arguably the same thing.
But the reason I draw the distinction is the world wars were large allied nations fighting over principally the same issue.
World War II, Japan was doing its thing, but did have an alliance with Germany.
I believe we'll end up seeing possibly pocket conflicts all over the world that escalate to the point of war and are very serious, but not necessarily a unification of the enemy powers, the adversarial nations, I should put it.
However, a world at war, for obvious reasons, may very well turn into World War III.
That is, if Iran is being battered by Israel and the U.S., and then Pakistan and other nations join the fray with Iran.
With Russia and Ukraine and NATO and Ukraine, Venezuela in South America, you may actually see nations like China say, we're supplying weapons to Iran to these countries.
Eventually, the U.S. draws a line.
China draws a line.
There's a strike in the Pacific.
And then Iran says, you need to work with me because the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
And that's how things dramatically escalate.
But let's take a look at the current news and these deployments.
This is the Nimitz's final deployment.
It was headed to the Indo-Pacific already.
It's being deployed early because of the conflict.
And the conspiracy theorists are out.
They're saying, wait, wait, wait, wait.
They're deploying an aircraft carrier set to be decommissioned to this conflict.
Of course.
Speculation as that this soon-to-be decommissioned aircraft carrier will be damaged, attacked, or sunk.
And now we are seeing U.S. lawmakers say, in the event...
We must enter that war.
And that's how you get Donald Trump to sign off on it.
Now, he said it's not going to happen.
But I'll tell you this, my friends.
There is a strong probability that there will be an attack on U.S. forces.
Trump will say, I told him not to do it.
We have no choice.
And that's what pulls the U.S. into the fray, as it is always typically the case.
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Let's jump into that news, my friends.
We've got this from Newsweek.
U.S. deploys aircraft carrier USS Nimitz over Iran-Israel conflict.
Now, in fact, we actually have a report from Fox News that breaks this down, which I find to be particularly interesting.
Let's play this clip.
And let's play the audio as well.
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Strikes launched by Iran.
The two sides trading more tax overnight as that conflict continues to escalate.
Jennifer Griffin, live from the Pentagon, brings us up to speed from her post now.
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Jennifer, hello.
Hi, Bill.
The Israelis using American-made F-35 stealth fighter jets did in less than four days something that the Russian Air Force has been incapable of doing in Ukraine for three and a half years.
It established air superiority.
That means Israeli non-stealth F-15 and F-16 fighter jets can now carry out airstrikes and hunt down the mobile ballistic missile launchers that are terrorizing Israeli cities.
Two U.S. Navy-guided missile destroyers, the USS Sullivans and USS Arleigh Burke, in the eastern Mediterranean have been shooting down Iranian missiles aimed at Israel.
The Navy has ordered the USS Thomas Hudner for backup, along with a fourth Navy destroyer.
And we have now learned the aircraft carrier strike group, the USS Nimitz, on its final sea voyage will deploy from the Pacific, deeply symbolic since it was the Nimitz deployed in 1980 and its helicopters that were part of the failed U.S. effort to rescue the American hostages held at the U.S. Embassy in Tehran.
The U.S. has been in a shadow war against Iran ever since.
Israel may not be able to reach the parts of Iran's nuclear program that are buried inside mountains and underground without U.S. help.
U.S. B-2 bombers are the only air asset that can drop the 30,000-pound bunker buster bombs known as the massive ordnance penetrator.
Only the U.S. has them when pressed on whether Trump had denied any military requirements Like the 30,000-pound bunker buster bombs delivered by those B-2 bombers needed to hit Iran's deeply buried nuclear sites, Netanyahu deflected, saying it was President Trump's decision.
Quote, I trust his judgment completely.
That from Brett Baer's exclusive interview with the Israeli prime minister yesterday.
Bill?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼
Now what's interesting, I think I might have this article here from the Navy Times.
USS Nimitz waves goodbye to San Diego for likely final deployment.
This from March 28th, 2025.
It is set to be decommissioned in 2026 after its 50-year—it's supposed to be commissioned for only 50 years.
Now, the speculation, of course.
I'm going to say it, and they're going to call me a conspiracy theorist and come to whatever they want.
But I think saying something like this is important because if it's on the—look, whatever.
This is the perfect scenario for a PR move to get the U.S. involved in the war.
The USS Nimitz strike group, symbolic as it attempted to rescue hostages in 1980, final deployment set to be decommissioned, goes to the region and then, oh no, heavens me, it's sunk and destroyed by the Iranians.
We have no choice but to enter the war on the ground with our existing Middle Eastern forces being sent to the front line to engage in combat with Iran.
Now, maybe you tell me, that's crazy, it's not going to happen.
I'd say, okay, yeah, maybe, I don't know.
I'm just telling you right now, as the fact that we know and we see this maybe makes it unlikely.
Fine.
But when you look at the history of war and conflict, notably the Gulf of Tonkin incident, a U.S. vessel being attacked has been used as a precursor before.
And of course, as people are already saying, if we are attacked by Iran, We got the story here, in fact.
Lawmakers urge defense if Iran attacks U.S. targets.
The U.S. wants to be involved.
Maybe not Donald Trump.
Maybe Donald Trump.
I don't know.
Trump says it's impossible.
We won't.
We won't get involved.
But I tell you this.
If the Nimitz is attacked, Trump's going to change his tune in two seconds.
And he's going to say, you know, there are people saying don't go to war, but you know what?
They attacked our men and women.
Just after his parade and all that stuff?
Trump's not going to stand for that.
Now look, there's a reality where Iran just attacks us.
And it's not so much that it was planned or a false flag.
But understand, the U.S. enters these waters knowing there's a real possibility it may happen.
And I guarantee you there are national security interests in the United States are crossing their fingers hoping Iran attacks a U.S. target.
To give us the casus belli for a full ground invasion.
We should not be involved in this war.
We have been involved in a shadow war.
The U.S.'s business should remain in the United States.
But this is the product of the liberal world order and the world police who are upset that Iran has fallen out of line with demands of our liberal world order.
Look it up.
Council on Foreign Relations.
And so they've long wanted to remove the Iranian power structure.
Me, I'm more of an America should do America stuff.
But of course, there are many liberals that want and call for this liberal economic order to be maintained.
Notably the Democrats, Joe Biden, Obama, Clinton, they were all about it.
Donald Trump, not so much, and that's why they didn't like him.
He wanted to withdraw our troops from these regions.
No new wars.
Yet they would do whatever they could to stop him to maintain the concept of the international liberal economic order.
And now we have this from the Times of Israel.
US appears to be deploying large number of aerial refueling tankers across the Atlantic.
The US Air Force appears to be in the midst of an unprecedented mass deployment of aerial refueling tankers.
The number of KC-135 and KC-46 tankers continues to rise, with at least 30 moved east in the late hours of Sunday, according to flight tracking data.
Such tankers are required to refuel aircraft participating in strikes far away from their home country.
Such as the Israeli jets hitting Iran.
Take a look at these images.
Evergreen Intel saying 26 tankers.
It's now up to 30. And we've got this image.
We'll pull this image up showing this deployment of all of these refueling tankers.
Now, the argument is, based on the trajectory, they are not heading to Finland, where there's a multinational exercise underway.
Yahoo News says armada of USAF tankers just deployed east over Atlantic, spurring speculation.
Over two dozen U.S. Air Force KC-135R and KC-46A tankers from across the U.S. appeared in flight tracking software yesterday evening.
Taking off from their bases and heading east over the Atlantic, it isn't clear if they were dragging any combat aircraft with them, but there wasn't any obvious signs of that.
While tanker movements in this direction are far from abnormal, such a large, near-simultaneous migration of jets was very peculiar, especially at a time of crisis in the Middle East.
The exact reason for the mass deployment is unclear, although many of the potential answers would indicate a change or preparations for a potential change in the current conflict between Israel and Iran.
Open source enthusiasts took to social media after all the tankers began popping up on flight tracking software.
While there is a multinational exercise in Norway that is about to kick off that wouldn't require anything like this level of relocation of refueling assets, there is no other apparent exercise or commitment that would necessitate such an operation.
On the other hand, these are precisely the assets that would be needed if the U.S. were going to change its support of Israel's Operation Rising Lion, or if there were urgent concerns that the conflict is about to widen significantly.
Outside of some sort of unlikely signaling move, an undisclosed massive exercise or some other yet-to-be-known long-established commitment— The U.S. has decided.
Or is preparing for the possibility that will provide Israel with aerial refueling support to dramatically accelerate its offensive air operations with Iran.
That being the case, the U.S. will enter directly into the fray of this war with Iran.
You're not going to make any stupid argument where, like, we're not dropping bombs.
We're only refueling the ones that are.
No, we're involved.
Number two, joining the kinetic fight.
This would mean the U.S. would enter the air war directly.
Or is preparing to be more capable of executing that option.
These tankers would be needed for such operations as well as refueling Israeli aircraft.
This, of course, would be a massive shift in U.S. policy and it could have cascading effects throughout the region, especially in terms of the likelihood that Iran would start targeting American installations.
Three, it's prepping to deal with Iran attempting to close the Strait of Hormuz.
If this were to occur...
This would mean the war would instantly widen.
And this cannot be done just by going out and sinking small boats.
It would require a massive operation that includes SEAD, DEAD, and persistent surveillance aircraft sorties.
It also means having to hunt for highly mobile shore-based anti-ship missile launchers on a grand scale.
An incredibly challenging task.
Once again.
This would demand large amounts of continuous tanker support.
You can read our complete report they're going to say here.
And finally, providing a robust air bridge from the U.S. to the Middle East.
This may be the most likely option as it would be needed if major assets are going to start flowing into the region.
Or at least the option to support such actions is being put into place now.
But that being said, if the U.S. is shuttling these refueling tankers for the purpose of shuttling more planes and more jets.
Stands to reason the first three arguments they've made, the fourth is just basically saying to facilitate the first three.
It's looking highly likely.
We will be deploying more assets into the region, and I believe the U.S. will get involved in this conflict.
First of all, we already are, but I mean directly.
I don't know if boots on the ground would actually happen, but I kind of think so.
When they put boots on the ground in Syria, they told us it would never happen.
And they just went and did it.
Now, with these U.S. lawmakers saying we need to get involved, it could be out of Trump's hands.
The perfect play.
The U.S. is attacked.
Trump says we will not.
We will not risk the brave men and women of the United States over a regional conflict in the Middle East.
But after an attack on U.S. assets, Congress declares war.
And Trump says, OK.
I doubt it.
Doesn't seem to be the way that Congress or the presidency has operated.
And based on the things Trump has said, I think what's likely is we will be attacked.
We're sending all these deaths in the region.
And then they're going to say, whether they did or didn't, it's going to be Iran.
And this will be the start of a war, the response of which in the public will be, we didn't start the war, they attacked us.
Now, of course, Israel started this.
Now, I know there's going to be a lot of people that say war isn't started instantly overnight.
This is something that's been building up for a long time.
Israel and Iran have already traded barbs.
We get it.
But I'm saying, in the past week, Israel decided to launch strikes on Iran, initiating the current conflict.
Now, it's a tough argument.
You guys, tell me what you think on this one.
The argument is, Iran is attempting to build a nuclear weapon.
They've been attempting to build a nuclear weapon for a long time.
At least that's the claim.
Iran wants to wipe out Israel.
Hands down.
They've been supplying Hamas with weapons.
They've been funneling weapons in the region.
The conflict is only getting worse.
The argument is that Israel said they are very close to a nuke and we're not going to wait around.
This is self-defense.
What do you think?
Attacking someone first because they might get a weapon is self-defense?
I don't think so.
That's just me.
I certainly understand why if we were the United States and the cartels were building a nuke, we would flatten them in two seconds.
Let's put it again.
If the United States, we got word and there was evidence, real, and you knew for a fact the cartels were loading up short-range, low-yield nuclear weapons to fire at the U.S. border, we would strike them in two seconds and just flatten them before anything like that could happen.
Israel's doing all this on our dime and our time, our weapons, and it's going to drag us into the fray.
Already we have U.S. destroyers in the Mediterranean defending Israel.
U.S. fighters just already intercepting strikes, targeting Israel.
Iran's just going to say the U.S. is acting as a shield and Israel is acting as the sword.
The question is, will anyone come to Iran's defense over this?
I say no.
If the U.S. gets involved, then I think it's much more likely.
The U.S. gets involved and then, like, actually striking Iran.
Iran's going to say to all these other countries, now's your chance.
They're split.
China makes a move on Taiwan.
Who knows what?
World War III.
This is from three days ago.
U.S. forces enter Iran-Israel feud.
You don't want to say war?
Despite Trump vowed to end all wars.
Trump said it wouldn't happen.
Now he's saying this.
Trump says it's possible U.S. will get involved in Iran-Israel conflict while urging deal.
I hope you all are ready.
According to ABC News, the Republican president also said talks over Iran's nuclear program were continuing and that Tehran would be more inclined to make a deal now that the Islamic Republic was training massive strikes with Israel.
There has been no public indication of negotiations continuing since Israel launched its offensive in Iran early Friday.
And Tehran canceled Sunday's planned sixth round of talks.
It's possible we could get involved, Trump said in his off-camera interview with ABC News senior political correspondent Rachel Scott.
He stressed the U.S. was not at this moment involved in military action.
Now we do have this from Axios.
Israel urges U.S. to join the war with Iran to eliminate nuclear program.
And then I'm not sure what we have.
We have this from Axios.
Lawmakers urge defense.
If Iran attacks U.S. targets.
Now we do have a video.
This is nothing graphic.
You know, we don't show the graphic stuff.
This is just a video of a building that was struck in Iran that housed a television studio.
Check this out.
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"Seda'i متجاوز به خاک وطن!
"Seda'i متجاوز به صدای حق و حقیقت است!
"انچه که ملاحظه کردید "صدای که شنیدید "فضای قبارالوده استدیوزی" "الله اکبر!
"الله اکبر!
"الله اکبر!
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It's the reality of war, my friends.
And I think it's a very strong possibility the U.S. does get involved.
Lawmakers are urging defense if Iran attacks.
And Donald Trump said, maybe.
The Daily Mail says, blitz on Iran.
Israel has full aerial superiority over Tehran and has destroyed a third of its missile force as U.S. aircraft carrier steams toward the Middle East.
Israel comes in, flattens their air defense, And now it's cleared for the U.S. to come in and launch a ground invasion.
I don't know that it's the case.
Iran is not Afghanistan.
Iran is not Iraq.
That's an important lesson.
People seem to think, you hear Iran, you hear Iraq, you think, oh, they must be the same thing.
No way.
Iran is a massive, mountainous nation.
Massive.
Very hard to navigate.
Very hard to get past air defenses.
And it is developed.
It is not like Iraq and Afghanistan.
Now, Iraq and Afghanistan surround.
Iran and the East and West.
And we have military bases and assets prepared for this.
And they've been preparing for this for a long time.
From the Daily Mail.
Pakistan tells Iran they will nuke Israel if Netanyahu uses nuclear weapons against Tehran.
Regime officer claims in huge World War III apocalypse threat.
That's why I say we shouldn't be involved in this stuff.
There are challenges.
There are questions.
We don't want to be involved in World War III.
We don't want to start World War III.
It's all heading in that direction.
We don't want China to gain unipolar global dominance.
So what do we do?
For a lot of reasons, there's a lot of arguments.
We don't know for sure.
One of the arguments we hear is that Europe is being strangled out by Russia's control over natural gas into the region.
Europe needs cheaper energy to grow its economy and compete with the Chinese growing economic bloc.
But so long as Russia is strangling out energy and the U.S. can't control the flow of energy, it's going to weaken one of our principal allies and strengthen the East.
This is why you get the Ukraine war, the principal reason.
If that were the case, I don't think we'd see so much deference to China from the United States, however.
That being said, China is growing.
And it's expected to overtake the U.S. as the global economic power in only a few years unless something happens.
Thucydides' trap predicts that there's a tendency towards war, full-scale war between these empires if that does happen.
I don't think we need or want any of that.
But I can't say I know for sure exactly what happens if we do nothing, exactly what happens if we get involved.
And it's easy to be a guy complaining on the Internet.
Telling y 'all.
It's easy to be an armchair activist saying here's what we should do when we don't know the realities of what's really going on in the world and what's happening on the ground and we just have to trust what the media tells us.
But they lie every day.
So my friends, we are knocking on the door of Armageddon.
The weapons that we have now, you ain't seen nothing.
Nukes.
That's nearly a hundred-year-old technology at this point.
The weapons they've developed will probably terrify them.
So all I can say for now is we'll see how this escalation goes.
For the interview today, we'll be joined by Andy Ngo to talk about the escalation of violence on the far left and the riots over the weekend.
The Marines clashing for the first time with protesters in generations.
Far leftists shooting and killing innocent bystanders.
A lot to break down on this, plus the assassination in Minnesota.
That'll be up at 4 p.m.
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For everybody else, we will continue this story live.
We've got this story from Fox 13. Gunmen arrested for murder of protester despite not firing the shots.
At a protest turned, I don't know if you can call it a riot.
It's in Salt Lake City with what appears to be a thousand plus marching.
A man reportedly was, quote, manipulating a rifle when some of the organizers from the event, the 50501 movement, took aim.
and opened, took aim at the man who fled and they shot at him as he was fleeing, killing an innocent bystander.
This is insane.
The man who fired the shots was not arrested.
Fox 13 says one person has died after a shooting that occurred Saturday as protesters marched to the streets of downtown Salt Lake City following a No Kings protest.
Police arrested a suspect for alleged murder, although he was not the person who fired the fatal shot.
Red identified the suspect as Arturo Roberto Gamboa, who was found with an AR-15 and a gas mask.
Two additional people were detained following the shooting.
They were wearing high-visibility vests and armed, with Red saying they were possibly part of the march's peacekeeping team.
Now, this has been confirmed.
These men were, quote-unquote, peacekeepers.
I think about Kyle Rittenhouse.
When he was threatened with death, physically attacked, and fled, And only after someone fired a shot that he turned around and a man tried to grab his gun, actually touched it, attacked him, he opened fire.
As he fled, they attacked him further.
And the left said he was a vigilante.
The media said he was a vigilante.
They claimed he murdered three black people.
None of it ever happened.
Now we have liberal organizers of the No Kings protest, the 50501 movement, involved directly with shooting and killing an innocent bystander.
And they're not even arrested.
Things are getting crazy, and it's hard to say if this is escalation or inter-leftist conflict.
From The Guardian, U.S. Marines detained civilians in first known instance since Trump deployed troops to L.A. This is a dramatic escalation.
As the No Kings protests across the country, in some instances, descended into rioting.
Now, my friends, we're going to be joined by Andy Ngo.
He's an expert on all of this stuff and he knows a lot about who these people are, what went down.
So let's pull in Andy right now.
We're going to grab that camera here, get it all set up.
I believe we have our sources synced.
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We've got Andy.
Andy, can you hear me?
Can you hear and see me, Andy?
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I do.
Hello.
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Hey, how's it going?
Thanks for joining.
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My pleasure.
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Do you want to give a brief, just real quick, who are you and what do you do?
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Yeah, my name's Andy Ngo.
I am an independent journalist most known for reporting on Antifa, Tarantifa, and the violent far left.
I'm originally from Portland, Oregon.
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So you've experienced it on the ground, of course.
You've written a book about it, unmasked.
You've been physically attacked on more than one occasion.
This past week and into the weekend, we've seen an escalation of far-left riots.
The No Kings protest, of course, in certain areas of the Pacific Northwest devolved into just outright riots.
But we have this story of these peacekeepers who shot and killed a guy, and they arrested somebody else.
This is pretty confusing.
Out of Salt Lake City, can you break down?
What happened with that, who these people are, and why they arrested this other guy?
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The story is confusing because, well, once I explain it, you'll understand why.
There are a lot of Democrat and liberal media narratives at risk.
We've been told now for the last couple of days that the No Kings protests that happened nationwide were peaceful, and this was a lawful demonstration against the authoritarian tendencies of the president.
Trump.
But as you mentioned a moment ago, there were some places where there were violence that devolved.
In Portland, in particular, after the main demonstration.
But in Salt Lake City, Utah, it turned deadly.
Yesterday, the Salt Lake City police did a press conference detailing how a suspect had been charged with murder.
And they released his name, Arturo Gambois.
The reaction online from those who read the headlines was they thought it was potentially a Trump supporter or some right-wing maniac who brandished a rifle and killed an anti-Trump protester.
But that's not what happened at all, according to the police and according to footage that has emerged.
The shooting happened.
So this is a liberal demonstration.
For those who don't know sort of the background, the No Kings event, it was organized by nearly 200 Democrat-aligned unions, PACs, non-profits, activist groups, etc., all on the left.
And at the protests in Salt Lake and in other cities, they did not want a large visible police presence because there's still anti-police sentiment among the mainstream left going back now for a long time because of BLM and also because they blame police for potentially allying with federal law enforcement.
So some places have their own volunteer peacekeepers, which are just Left-wing liberal protesters who don a vest and have the task of maintaining peace.
And a peacekeeper may have misjudged the situation because a radical leftist who came allegedly with a rifle, and you can see in the video, he was holding something that looked like a rifle and did not appear to be brandishing into anyone's.
A peacekeeper fired shots in the direction of the Radical Latino leftist and raised him only and instead killed an innocent bystander who was part of the protest.
A Samoan American man died.
And so the radical Latino leftist, Mr. Gamboa, is the one that's been charged.
Even though he is not accused of firing any rounds, the so-called peacekeeper has not been named at all by authorities, and it's unclear if he will be facing any charges.
Salt Lake City Police is asking for people who have video or photo evidence to submit it to them in their investigation.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼
So this guy they arrested— He's not pointing at anybody or anything like that?
andy ngo ▲ ● ▼
In a video, which is somebody from high up on a building is panning over in the crowd, and it just happened by coincidence to catch the shooting as it's happening.
And you see a person who is identified as the murder suspect, the radical leftist, running away.
He's dressed all in black.
He's running away.
His rifle appears to be pointed at the ground, and you see a person wearing a bright vest, the alleged so-called peacekeeper, firing rounds in the direction of the Latino man, and a person standing nearby was shot dead.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼
This is a very, very weird story.
Like, you know, I've compared this with the Kyle Rittenhouse case where He was attacked.
And he fled.
And only after someone fired a shot behind him did he turn around, got attacked again, shot, you know, he killed that man Rosenbaum.
He tried to go to the police, was attacked again.
This is a weird story where it appears, you're mentioning, you're saying there's video of what appears to be one of these, these liberal peacekeepers, I understand it, were associated with the 5051.
It's the stupidest name because you've got to explain it.
It's 50501.
It appears they shot at this guy for no reason.
From everything I've read, and as you're describing it now, it sounds like there's a far-left Antifa guy, he's got a rifle, some other guy points the rifle at him, so he runs, which I think a lot of people might do if they get a rifle pointed at him, and then this 50501 guy starts shooting into the crowd.
Yet they didn't arrest him.
They didn't call this a liberal mass shoot or anything like that.
It's just, I'm quite confused as to how this is how it played out.
andy ngo ▲ ● ▼
So it was the peacekeeper who pointed a pistol and fired it, not the rifle, by the way.
The radical leftist is the one with the rifle.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼
Interesting.
andy ngo ▲ ● ▼
He has it on him.
He's running away.
It's pointed at the ground as he's running away.
We don't know if he was brandishing it at anybody.
That's not part of the allegations, and no footage has emerged of that.
To explain a bit more of the context for people who might be confused, understandably, at a lot of these left-wing demonstrations, these radical anarchist communist revolutionary types, which, by the way, the social media that is alleged to belong to the Latino guy, he would have those views.
They go to these demonstrations to act sort of with firearms, to act
I can imagine a situation, because it's happened before, where these militants on the radical left who come with tactical gear, they're dressed in all black, they're wearing masks, and they're open carrying weapons, other people who don't know who they are might...
And in this case, it turned deadly.
It remains to be seen if that's actually what happened, but there's no evidence so far that the man actually charged with murder.
Was threatening to anybody other than opening carrying, but that's lawful in the state of Utah.
And for why he's been charged with murder, a lot of states in their criminal statutes on murder, it can include if you create the conditions where somebody gets killed, you don't necessarily have to be the one who pull the trigger or stab somebody, for example.
But if you create the conditions where somebody is killed, you can be charged.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼
I think what they were saying is that this Gamboa guy was in the process of committing a felony, and then someone died, so therefore it's his fault.
But the question is—I don't know.
I mean, we could check.
Is it legal to open-carry a rifle in Salt Lake City?
I'd imagine it is.
Maybe there's some restriction on him, or I don't know if that's come up in your investigation.
andy ngo ▲ ● ▼
I'm not aware of any restrictions for open-carrying in Salt Lake City.
I might have— Maybe people who are watching live can then correct me if I'm inaccurate on that.
But it just shows how sort of paranoid liberals on the left are.
Like, they think everybody is a proud boy or a white supremacist seeking to kill them.
And, you know, they've targeted a lot of people, not killed them, but violently assaulted people with just, like, all it needs is just, like,
tim pool ▲ ● ▼
What do you think would have happened if the peacekeeper, they're calling him, I mean, it's kind of a ridiculous thing to say, but what if that was a uniformed police officer who fired live rounds into a crowd of No Kings protesters?
How do you think the media and the liberals would be reacting?
andy ngo ▲ ● ▼
We would get some type of reaction maybe similar to 2020.
You know, it's all about sort of convenient victims and convenient perpetrators for the radical left and liberal media.
Accuracy doesn't really matter.
It's about what narrative is being reinforced.
So the No Kings protest is still being called peaceful when you have somebody who was shot dead, just a person who was attending.
This is surprising to me.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼
I tweeted this morning.
I said something like, so a far-left extremist with a rifle, you know, freaked out some other far-left extremists who then shoot into the crowd, killing a random person.
So the cop arrests the extremist who was running and not the guy who was shooting.
The response I got from people was, huh?
I thought this was something everybody was going to know about.
I thought this was going to be major trending news, especially considering local media reports said that it was the group 5051, 50501, I hate their name by the way, had said one of our people was involved in this, we were involved in this, and they were saying things like we had to make a very difficult decision when this happened and it's a tragedy, blah, blah, blah.
I think you're right when you say it's being swept under the rug and people aren't discussing this.
This should be a massive story.
This is, you go out peacefully at one of these events and these are private organizations, liberal organizations, that have armed, unsanctioned individuals.
These are not legally sanctioned individuals walking around with guns, trained and ready to kill if they perceive a threat.
And that's exactly what happened.
But I will move on a little bit because...
Can you tell us what was going on up there?
andy ngo ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, so there's been a lot of protests that are happening, and I think people might be confused on what's what.
So there's been the ongoing insurrections that first started in LA now over a week ago.
And so there's already been days of violence in LA, in Portland, in Seattle.
And then the No Kings protests coincided on Saturday with this sort of larger insurrection.
In Portland, the rioters that were trying to burn down the local ICE facility, again, had their numbers bolstered by people who, once the No Kings demonstration was over, which was peaceful in Portland, then some of those people were brought over.
Or encouraged to go to the ICE facility where the rioters launched another very violent attack on the building and smashed open the front doors, which are glass, and with the intent to go inside to burn it down from the inside because the fires that they had set on the outside had failed to make the building catch on fire.
And the building is next to an elementary school, by the way.
I've been on the ground a lot in that area, not in this particular case, but in prior years, because in 2018, when there were a lot of lies and incitement to violence against ICE at that time, during the first Trump administration, remember what we were told about family separations and all the hysteria about that.
Antifa, really many of the same people that are involved in violence now in Portland, violently overtook the ICE.
And there aren't very many federal officers who can just mobilize on an incident to go and respond.
You know, they have to fly people in, drive people in.
It takes a day or two to mobilize that.
So for hours, whilst staff inside were calling Portland Police 911, For help, the Portland police declined to provide any assistance, saying that, well, this is federal property, so it's your problem.
The response this time is a little bit different.
We have a new mayor who, you know, he's woke, but he also remembers what happened to Ted Wheeler when Ted Wheeler tried to placate Antifa for many, many years.
And the Portland police have responded to the rioters on the street.
So at least they're doing something.
They're not going on the federal property to try to restore order, but at least the crimes that are being committed immediately in front of the building, because the street is shut down and people, Antifa, are bringing blockades and other things into the streets and terrorizing this residential community, by the way.
So there were four arrests last night.
There were three the night before.
A couple nights ago, there were 10 arrests.
So we're just over 15 arrests now from five days of attacks on the ICE facility in Portland.
And then in Seattle, it was also really violent.
This was not connected to the No Kings protest, even though it fell on the same day.
It was just part of the daily violence that federal protests.
So there's a DHS building right by Seattle in a different city called Tukwila.
And so Seattle Antifa, after having carrying out multiple nights of arson attacks and vandalism on the federal building downtown, they went to this DHS building and created a blockade similar to what they did in Portland in 2018.
They were trying to prevent anybody from coming in or out.
And there's some viral footage of, you know, these mass militants with their arms locked and these, like, sort of things that they've dragged onto the street to create a blockade.
But what they didn't know was that the, at least in Washington State, at this building, there were federal officers who were ready.
They were inside, and they responded very quickly and shut it down.
They pepper sprayed and cleared the crowd.
The riot hurts.
Basically kicked open that blockade and the DHS vehicles, ICE vehicles were able to drive away, potentially with detainees inside, we don't know.
And that really angered Antifa.
So then at night they went downtown to where they have been attacking the federal building.
They returned to that and started fires, vandalized the building.
There were a number of really violent assaults over the weekend on journalists.
Um, by Seattle Antifa.
So, uh, Brandy Cruza, who's a really great Seattle-based independent, um, YouTuber.
Your followers should, um, check out her content.
You know, she's this woman who, uh, a young woman who's gone independent now, but she worked for the local, um, I forget which affiliate.
It might have been a Fox affiliate, but she was in Legacy Media for a long time in Seattle, and now she's independent.
And she's been quite critical of left-wing political violence.
And anytime you do that, you become a target, unfortunately, speaking from experience.
And Brandy, she came with security outside that Tukwila facility.
And the rioters assaulted her, assaulted her security.
They tried to blind her with some chemical spray in the eyes.
They hurled all this water and liquid and unknown stuff all over her and threatened her.
They were quite emboldened, and it was caught on video.
or other journalists who recorded it.
And then at night, Cam Higby, who's an incredible young citizen journalist who I mean, you used to cover riots.
I used to cover riots.
You know how dangerous it is and how, you know, why a lot of people stop because you get targeted.
So Cam was undercover and the militants were looking for him.
They found him and they beat him.
He was very, very lucky that he was wearing a helmet because they were beating him on the head.
His helmet was dented.
He had to go to the hospital the next day because he was bleeding from his nose when he was sleeping, and he's diagnosed with a concussion.
So he's lucky that he's alive, for one.
This is the type of violence in Seattle.
The response from the mayor and the governor, you know, Democrats.
Run Washington State at basically every level.
So they sort of set the narrative.
They're describing these protests as peaceful and their condemnations are only directed towards their political targets.
Like a few weeks ago, there were Christians who did a Christian worship rally in Cal Anderson Park, which is where Chaz was.
And they were condemned by the mayor and the governor as he's like far right.
Christian nationalists.
And they had nothing really to say about the masked, violent organizers who came to attack people.
So I reluctantly describe Antifa as an unofficial paramilitary of the Democrats in the sense that the relationship is not official, like Democrats are not directing Antifa to attack this or do this or that, but rather it's like...
And I think that's what we're seeing now.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼
Man, it is getting really, really crazy out there.
This past weekend, I think, is crazy.
I think we'll probably end up seeing more this week.
But for those that are watching, where can they find you?
andy ngo ▲ ● ▼
I am on nocomment.com.
That's my subsect.
NGOcomment.com.
No comment.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼
And then you got an X account?
andy ngo ▲ ● ▼
I do.
It's MrAndyNGO.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼
Andy, I really do appreciate you joining and explaining all this for us.
So thanks for hanging out and we'll see you next time.
andy ngo ▲ ● ▼
Thank you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼
Have a go on.
All right.
That was the intrepid journalist Andy Ngo who joined us.
A little shorter interview today, but, you know, and he's a busy guy.
He's a busy guy doing a lot of really great work out there.
And so in the meantime, we'll just jump over and pick up some of this other news that's been going on.
I think probably the more interesting and most notable is the Marines have actively gotten involved on the ground, detaining individuals.
And this is the first time in potentially generations because it is rare that we see U.S. military actually involved with U.S. law enforcement.
We have this.
From The Guardian, U.S. Marines detained civilian in first known instance since Trump deployed troops to L.A. This is from the 13th on Friday, in fact.
They say Marines took charge of the Wilshire Federal Building early on Friday in a rare domestic use of U.S. troops after days of protest over immigration raids.
Ritter's images showed Marines apprehending a civilian, restraining his hands with zip ties, and then handing him over to civilians from DHS.
Asked about the incident, the U.S.'s Northern Command spokesperson said active duty forces may temporarily detain an individual in specific circumstances.
Any temporary detention ends immediately when the individuals can be safely transferred to the custody of appropriate civilian law enforcement.
About 200 Marines arrived in L.A. on Friday morning.
Of course, we have seen their deployment.
And now, of course, the No Kings protests sees violence in some instances, as we explained and as Andy Ngo explained.
Not all of the violence of the weekend was associated with the No Kings protest.
No Kings is a more of a mainstream liberal event.
That being said, you take a look at this instance, and we've got ourselves the makings of a very serious scandal.
As I mentioned to Andy, I was very shocked to find that when I tweeted about this, people were responding totally confused, having no idea what I was talking about.
In one instance, someone thought I was talking about a shooting from five years ago.
This happened over the weekend.
And one of the groups that is organizing with no kings pulled out—I didn't realize it was a pistol, so this is why we talked to Andy Ngo, right?
He tracks this stuff.
He's investigating these things.
Pulled out a pistol and fired into a crowd indiscriminately at somebody who apparently wasn't doing anything.
Now what I do want to do is look up the—I'll say this.
What are the open carry rules?
In Utah.
Because I'm curious as to what makes what this guy Gamboa did a felony.
I don't like the far left.
Okay?
Now, in Utah, 21 and up, permitless open carry is allowed of a loaded or unloaded firearm.
I'm assuming this guy, I believe he was 28 years old.
The question is, what did the guy they arrested do that was a felony?
They even say this from Fox 13. Despite not firing the shots.
I believe what we're seeing right now, and the reason why this story isn't as well known, is that the liberal organizers of this event were involved in this.
Let me pull this one up.
We've got this.
I want to grab this quote for you and make sure you guys can see it.
From UtahNewsDispatch.com.
They have a quote.
It's in a Facebook post on Sunday morning.
Utah 50501, the group that organized the protest, said, quote, Our team was directly involved.
We have been in direct contact with law enforcement.
Some of you seem to think that a keyboard and social media gives you a free pass to be nasty and accusatory.
Our teams just had to deal with something extremely traumatizing and, when faced with personal risks to their own lives, chose to run towards the danger.
No, it actually sounds like from the evidence we have, they created the danger.
The organizers themselves shot and killed a guy and have not been charged.
This is insane.
They say we respectfully ask you to refrain from speculation about the alleged shooter's motives and identity.
That information will come out soon enough.
Hold on, hold on.
The shooter's motives and identity?
He was part of your group you were involved with and he was shooting at a guy he was scared of.
We know about his motive.
Are they implying the guy who didn't fire a shot and had a rifle was a shooter?
This is insane.
They say it is better to wait for the facts even though it is difficult given the emotional and charged nature of the incident.
The group said in a separate Facebook post.
This was a horrific moment of violence in a historic day of thousands of Utahns exercising their rights to protest.
Nothing will ever change the undeniable strength of the community.
Why aren't the police grabbing the guy who did it?
I don't understand.
Unless they're trying to cover up who this guy is and what was actually going on.
As Andy Ngo pointed out, there is video that shows this guy.
Rifles pointed down and he's running away.
Now I ask you this.
They said we were directly involved.
That's 50501.
They organized the protest.
The protest organizers directly involved.
It's their guy who shot.
In what reality do you shoot at a man running away?
Honest question.
If this guy, if the police know there's a guy who's already killed and he's armed and may kill again, yeah.
But a person armed running from you does not present an active threat that you can kill him over.
This is insane.
Now we are about rounding out this show.
I do want to grab some of your Rumble rants.
Coldtown992 says, Bolton won.
I hope not, man.
That's in reference to Iran.
John says, But he could still have it fought in a way that de-escalates U.S. involvement.
Guido says, I agree with that.
I agree with that.
Let's see.
The default points out that Iran has called for the death of America and Israel.
You don't need to believe the news.
You can watch the videos.
Indeed, we know that they do this, in fact.
The question is, why would the U.S. be involved in a regional conflict?
It's really sad to look at what's happened in Iran since the revolution.
People used to be rather Western.
Now they're a deeply fundamentalist Islamic nation.
I still don't.
The U.S. should be the world police going and telling everyone else how to live their lives.
Our sergeant says the news is covering the two reps that got shot.
My liberal local newscaster asked the question, are people emboldened to commit political violence because January 6th, rioters had been pardoned.
It's fascinating, isn't it?
The left engages in violence endlessly for the past 20 plus years.
Remember back at the RNC?
And I think it was in Minnesota, where leftists had Molotov cocktails in a van and they arrested a bunch of these guys.
I remember that.
We then get all of the protests throughout the 2010s.
Not necessarily the Occupy movement itself.
And I have no problem with, you know, Andy points out, No King's largely peaceful.
Something's going on with these guys shooting, that's for sure.
The right has one riot.
A bad riot for sure, but one riot.
They launch a manhunt for these people.
They hunt them down, lock them in solitary.
And the question is, is the right emboldening people?
I don't know.
I'd have to think that when a liberal organizer, associate of this group that is doing the organizing, shoots and kills a guy by firing indiscriminately into a crowd and you don't arrest him, you're emboldening violence.
It's getting crazy out there, my friends.
I don't know where things go.
I really don't.
I will just tell you all, man.
My friends, I do think violence is going to escalate.
Younger people are hyperpolarized.
They've seen enough and they want action.
They want something to be done about it, but the left is more violent and the right is...
I would argue the left is more violent.
We've seen the riots across the board.
We see what they agree with.
The right is more action oriented.
The right wants the law to be used to go after these people and shut them down and lock them up.
Both sides want an escalation in the use of force against their political opponents.
I don't see how we escape any of this.
It's generational.
Now, my friends, we will be sending you all over to join our good friend.
I believe we've got Russell Brand today.
Let me make sure.
Sometimes it's different.
Yep, we got Russell Brand gearing up to go live to talk about U.S. involvement in Iran and the assassin in Minnesota, which is another huge story here, by the way.
Very little information about.
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