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June 3, 2025 - Tim Pool Daily Show

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Democrat Support Falls To RECORD LOW 19%, GOP At 40%, Democrats QUIT Party

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tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Democrats are cooked, my friends.
		Their support, well, I call it support, but it's a bit nuanced.
		When asked if there were any strong leaders in the Democratic Party, only 19% said yes.
		For the Republicans, 40% said yes.
		And here's what's funny.
		I think it's a fact statement to say that Democrats have no strong leaders.
		I think that it is an incorrect assessment to say the Republicans have none.
		So 60% of people got it wrong on the Republican side.
		Let's be real.
		Donald Trump may be a lot of things.
		You may not like the guy.
		You may think he's plum crazy, but he is a strong leader.
		Call him the Mad King, I guess, but no one's denying the dude's got strength.
		They're calling him a fascist dictator on the left.
		So how are they going to go ahead and say there's no strong leaders on the right?
		There's plenty of strong individuals on the Republican side, many whom we might disagree with.
		The Democrat side, they got a whole lot of nothing.
		Now, the numbers for Democrats were so bad.
		CNNs, they got this pollster guy, and he is becoming a meme over his shock at how bad Democrats are doing poll-wise.
		Nate Silver's got an assessment for us.
		He's telling us why young men are leaving the left, leaving the Democratic Party.
		And my favorite assessment is, he says, they're mentally unwell.
		Now, he didn't literally say Democrats are all crackpots, but he may as well have.
		He said self-reported mental health among liberals is really bad.
		And actually, the way he describes it is a correlation between whether you have self-reported strong mental health and self-reported bad mental health.
		So what ends up happening is young men who think they're of sound mind end up being conservative.
		And I got to be honest, guys.
		I actually think it's fair to say the assessment is if you are suffering mental ailments, you are likely going to adhere to a liberal worldview because it's emotional, illogical, and your brain isn't processing that information correctly.
		Call me biased.
		It's probably why the right right now in this country is a coalition of liberals and conservatives, and the left seems to be a bunch of, I don't know, chickens with their heads cut off.
		Now, of course, there's every excuse in the book popping up.
		Liberals are centrists, quote-unquote centrists, saying, well, it's because liberals are seeking mental health and they're much smarter.
		And then they go and disparage conservatives when in reality – I'm just going to stop you there, buddy.
		Yeah, there's a – reality has a conservative bias.
		Let's just call it that.
		And maybe it's because there's an ebb and flow to these things.
		I had a discussion with this woman who we actually will bring up as an example of why people are leaving the Democratic Party.
		And she was saying maybe it was bad that progressives won the culture war by censoring people because it made the left look insane.
		I warned that was going to happen like seven or eight years ago.
		So let's talk about this and break down exactly what's going on with the polls here.
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	But let's jump to the story from the New York Post, my friends.
	Vast majority of Americans don't see Dems as a party with strong leaders that get stuff done.
	And this is according to CNN, they say.
	Now, I don't know why the video for the New York Post says, two-year-old boy dropped down baggage chute and Port Authority police found him unharmed near x-ray machine, managing to scoop him up before he went into it.
	But I do appreciate that little blurb of a story, which is weird.
	But thank God that kid is all right.
	Anyway, they say fewer than a fifth of Americans view Democrats as a party with strong leadership that is able to get things done.
	The Republicans scoring roughly double on both of those metrics, a new poll has found.
	When asked about which party has strong leaders, 40% of American adults said Republicans compared to 16% of Democrats and 43% said neither.
	According to CNN SSRS survey taken last month, asked about which party can get things done, 19% felt the descriptor applies to Democrats, compared to 36% who said Republicans and 44% who felt neither.
	All this comes as a record share of Americans, 58%, want to see the federal government step up and do more to tackle problems vexing the country, a 30-year high for that figure per CNN.
	Oh boy.
	I'm just going to tell you, man, I feel like that is apocalyptic to be completely honest.
	The States are supposed to handle their own business.
	And the fact that people are increasingly turning to the federal government Anyway, they say, Look at this.
	See Democrats as a party of strong leaders.
	Oh, my God.
	Democrats have long sought to cast themselves to the party of government, while Republicans have portrayed themselves as a political machine set on reducing the government's footprint in people's lives.
	The abysmal figure for Democrats comes against the backdrop of multiple polls over recent months, showing the party underwater and lagging behind Republicans when it comes to their overall approval ratings.
	House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries chalked up the bleak survey dated to the fact that.
	No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	That's desperation.
	He says, but we have to continue to make the case, one, that Democrats, of course, are the party that is determined to make life more affordable for everyday Americans.
	Understandably, there's real frustration among the American people.
	The top House Democrat also pointed to some recent polls.
	That has shown his party edging out Republicans when it comes to the generic congressional race heading into the 26th cycle.
	Democrats have a 2.4% percentage point lead over Republicans when it comes to the generic congressional race, according to the latest RCP aggregate polling.
	That's bad news.
	Let me explain, my friends.
	Generic polls always favor Democrats.
	There's dense urban populations.
	When they get polled, they lean Democrat.
	They have to overcome a massive discrepancy.
	I'm fighting a sneeze, by the way.
	This is really annoying.
	And they usually, I don't know.
	It could go either way.
	Let me just tell Republicans, don't count your chickens before they hatch.
	The polling data looks good for Democrats.
	Let's just assume that's the case.
	They're going to say that's the latest RCP.
	Rep.
	Ro Khanna later praised Jeffries for his leadership in response to footage of the top House Democrat addressing the bleak polling figures.
	House Democrats have never been more unified or organized than under Hakeem Jeffries' leadership.
	I gotta be honest, that's why it's so low.
	No one is standing up against the insanity.
	Fetterman seems to try, but they don't like that guy.
	House Democrats have never been more unified.
	Democrats' advantage over Republicans and the potent issue of abortion has also waned, slipping from a 16-point edge in the fall of 23 to roughly 10 points, according to the CNN poll.
	That's despite the survey finding that a staggering 36% of the public want abortion to be legal under any circumstance.
	One of the highest margins CNN survey has found on that front in years.
	I think this is largely young people who don't have kids that are fueling this.
	Broadly speaking, respondents also felt that the two parties have significant differences, with 81% saying there are important distinctions between Republicans and Democrats.
	That's the highest that figure has been in over two decades.
	The CNN survey sampled 2,539 adults between May 26 and had a margin of error of plus or minus 2.7 percentage points.
	Heavens me, my friends.
	Take a look at this.
	Living meme.
	What is this?
	Harry Eaton?
	Is that his name?
	Yeah, Harry Enton.
	Sorry.
	Yikes.
	Shock polling showing Democrats still languishing behind Republicans on economic issues stunned CNN analyst Harry Enton on Monday.
	We get these videos so often of CNN's Harry Enton, like, losing it.
	I don't think they have the video on the New York Post.
	They're talking about But it's hilarious.
	Let me pull up this video of Harry.
	I'm sure it'll be on X. And we're always deeply entertained.
	Let's see if we can get this one.
	I'm sure somebody's got it.
	Here we go.
	Tony Saruga.
	No, that's just a screenshot.
	Here we go.
	We got DeVore.
	Is this right?
	Nope.
	That's an old story.
	Did nobody get the video up?
	Come on, guys.
	We want to see Harry Enten lose it over this polling.
	I gotta be honest, it doesn't look like people popped this one up.
	I don't know why they don't have the video.
	That's actually surprising.
	I thought, is this?
	Well, here we go.
	What is this?
	Wow.
	Still interesting data nonetheless.
	Let's pull up some of this analysis from Harry Enten and see if I can find that.
	What is this?
	Here we go.
	Well, we have this from Harry Enten.
	On X, this is him, the man himself.
	For decades, polls showed Dems had a double-digit edge on the party who was the middle class.
	Polls now show the GOP have totally eliminated that gap.
	This comes as the GOP maintains a 10-point lead in the economy after four months of Trump.
	Wow.
	Let's take a listen.
harry enten ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you would think after all of the waves, Kate Baldwin, after the last few months, the first five months of the Donald Trump presidency, right, the first four months of the Donald Trump presidency, that you expect that Democrats would have this massive lead on the economy.
		It ain't so.
		It ain't so.
		The party that is closest to your economic views, in November of 2023, it was the Republicans by 11 points.
		Now it's still within that range, still within that margin of error.
unidentified		There you go.
harry enten ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
kate bolduan ▲ ● ▼		This is new CNN polling.
kate bolduan ▲ ● ▼		How is that, when we look for trends, how is that trending with other data that you're pulling in?
harry enten ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, if it was just one CNN poll, that would be one thing.
		But take a look at Reuters' Ipsos.
		What do we see here?
		Party with a better economic plan.
		Well, in May of 2024, just before Donald Trump was re-elected president, Republicans had a nine-point advantage.
		Look at where we are now in May of 2025.
		The advantage actually went up by three points.
		Now Republicans have a 12-point advantage when it comes to the party with a better economic plan.
		And again, this is after months of supposed economic uncertainty in which the stock market's been going bonkers, in which the tariff wars that Americans are against have been going on, and yet despite all of that, the Democrats are down by 12 points on the economy.
		This speaks to Democratic problems on the economy better than basically anything that you could possibly look at the Republicans.
		Still holding advantage on the all-important key issue of the day, and that is the reason why, even if Donald Trump's approval ratings are a little bit lower than they used to be, Republicans are not out of the ballgame because they still have a clear advantage on the economy, whether you look at CNN's polls or whether you look at the Ipsos poll right here, in which they have a 12-point advantage on the economy.
kate bolduan ▲ ● ▼		And also in the CNN data, it does show that Republicans are gaining ground in Yeah.
unidentified		Wow.
harry enten ▲ ● ▼		Historically speaking.
		Which is the party of the middle class has been a huge advantage for Democrats.
		I have polling from NBC going all the way back since 1989 when Democrats had a 23-point advantage.
		2016, a 17-point advantage.
		But by this decade, we already started seeing declines back in 2022 where you saw that Democrats led, but only by four points, well within the margin of error.
		And now in our latest CNN poll among registered voters, which is the party of the middle class?
		It is tied?
		This, I think, speaks to Democratic ails more than anything else.
		They have traditionally been the party of the middle class.
		No more.
		Donald Trump and the Republican Party have taken that mantle away, and now a key advantage for Democrats historically has gone adios amigos, and now there is no party that is the party of the middle class.
		Wow, you know what that means?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		When we're seeing over a long period of time a shift towards Republicans, it means the younger generation favors the Republicans heavily and the older generation favors the Democrats.
		Rarely or only to a small percentage basis.
		Is there an ideological shift?
		What people don't understand, and I know I bring it up quite a bit, but everyone seems to think that there is America as this static block that is in a game of tug of war, left and right, where most people are going, you know, I was a liberal, but the conservatives made a great point and I'm a conservative.
		Hey, wait a minute.
		The liberals just made a great point and I'm a liberal.
		It's not how it works.
		The way it works is...
		That's going to change the polling numbers.
		To a certain degree, Gen Z has moved rightwards, and I mean literally this generation.
		If you look back at previous data, tracking specifically by age, the same people, you can see that as they're getting older, they are skewing rightward, which indicates an ideological shift.
		However, we're going to look at the same people.
		Now, an interesting point that was brought up to me by this liberal woman on the culture war, when I argued this is probably going to be due to birth rates, which I think to a certain extent is.
		She made a great point saying actually conservatives have outnumbered liberals for some time.
		Going back to, I think, the 70s or 80s, conservatives have outnumbered liberals in terms of the birth rate.
		We should have seen this a lot sooner.
		Fair point.
		But I don't think that it's wrong.
		I think that when people argue liberals indoctrinate conservative kids, they're correct.
		But something happens when the market crashes.
		People in cities probably had a lot less kids due to cost of living, and people in rural areas and lower income people still had lots of kids.
		You ended up with more conservatives.
		But I do believe there is an ideological shift as well.
		It's just not as pronounced.
		Now take a look at this.
		YouGov data.
		I love it.
		YouGov.
		Democratic Party favorability, 37.9.
		Yikes.
		That's pretty dang bad.
		What about the Republicans, though?
		43.1.
		Now, it's not like Republicans are perfect or anything, but Republicans have a higher favorability than Democrats, which brings me to this probably could be a standalone segment because everybody loves to click on the title.
		Democratic politician quits the Democratic Party.
		Longtime Kentucky Democrat is switching parties.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Another one of these.
		These stories, you know, we got so many.
		The Hill.
		A longtime member of the Kentucky General Assembly has said she's switching political parties.
		State Senator Robin Webb of Grayson in Carter County is now a registered Republican.
		Webb has served in the legislature since 1999 and has been in the Senate since 2009, all as a Democrat.
		But she told Fox 56 News on Friday, she's been considering changing parties the last couple of years.
		Quote, I want people to know where I stand.
		I know who I am that's not changing.
		I am not changing my priorities.
		I am not changing my advocacy positions.
		And my votes will remain the same on subject matter.
		I think everyone knows that, Webb said.
		We've got to think of the people of Kentucky.
		Sometimes we get into this, you know, I'm on this team or that team.
		And I understand that.
		That's our system and I respect that.
		But at the end of the day, we've got to do what's right.
		State Senator Gerald Neal, a Democrat, said.
		This marks the largest ever Republican supermajority in the Senate.
		32 of the Senate's 38 members are Republicans.
unidentified		Woo!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Kentucky.
unidentified		I wonder how their labor laws are.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Listen, people are quitting the Democratic Party because they're a bunch of crackpot lunatics.
		Don't take my word for it.
		Let's ask Nate Silver.
		Here you go from natesilver.net.
		The man himself, higher self-reported mental health correlates with conservative political views.
		Indeed.
		Self-reported mental health.
		Of the people who say they have excellent mental health, 51% are conservative, 30% moderate, 20% liberal.
		Now on the inverse.
		Of people who say they have poor mental health, 45% are liberal, 35% are moderate, and 19% are conservative.
		You know, it's just, it really is that simple, my friends.
		Now, the Democrats want to make excuses saying, actually, it's because Democrats are willing to go to therapy and get checked out.
		There's also other polling showing outside of self-reported mental health, diagnosed mental health.
		And there's always some excuse as to why it doesn't really mean that liberals are more crazy.
unidentified		It does.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So there was a polling going back seven years.
		We talked about this.
		The higher your diagnoses of mental illness and mental disorder, the higher the percentage of liberals.
		That's just the way it is.
		And they say things like, well, it's because liberals go to the doctor and conservatives don't.
		And because conservatives don't seek mental health treatment, they don't get diagnosed.
		Then they say, conservatives think their health is so good, but they're actually crazy.
		It's because they're arrogant.
		There's always an excuse as to why the data doesn't matter.
		Whatever, dude.
		Play the game.
		I don't care.
		All that matters is it's right in front of your face.
		There is a correlation between high mental health.
		Self-reported and being a conservative.
		Yep.
		So among young men, they're probably saying, I don't want, look, young men aren't saying, I'm not crazy, you're crazy.
		They're looking at the left and going, you're crazy.
		That's it.
		Men can be women and whatever else.
		And people are just like, okay, I'm out.
		I have some examples for you.
		But let me read this first.
		Nate Silver says, Although I've seen it written about elsewhere, I was honestly surprised by how strong the relationship is.
		Among voters who report poor mental health, liberals outnumber conservatives 45 to 19. Among those who reported excellent mental health, conservatives outnumber liberals 51 to 20. So the young men that Democrats have trouble with aren't necessarily the ones who have been captured by the conservative menosphere or who are looking for a helping hand.
		Rather, it's those who report relatively high mental health.
		And see Democrats as being too neurotic and perhaps constraining their opportunity to compete and reap the rewards of their work.
		Is there an element of misogyny too?
		Well, since these are young men we're talking about, sure.
		In the CES, 40% of Gen Z men said that women are too easily offended.
		Essentially the same percentage as older men.
		What do you mean?
		What is this?
		Misogyny?
		Holy crap.
		It is misogyny to point out that women are more likely to be offended by men?
		It is misandry to tell a man that he should be more offended.
		Look, I just can't stand these people.
		They are all psychopaths.
		Nate Silver, your gynocentrism is showing.
		Let me explain.
		There are two biological sexes, meaning they both operate relative to another.
		If you are going to say it is misogyny that a man says a woman is too easily offended, I can inversely say it is misandry to say that men don't get offended enough.
		You see the point?
		Men have a tendency.
		It is not misogyny or misandry.
		It is quite literally that men and women are different.
		But what this shows is that, and I don't mean this sarcastically or like in a silly way, it does show that Nate Silver, largely many of these liberals have a gynocentric worldview.
		That is.
		Women are the standard.
		Men are the deviant.
		If men say something negative about women, it's misogyny.
		But women can say things negative about men, and that's fine.
		It is also the critical gender theory, critical race theory worldview of men are oppressors.
		Your gynocentrism, Nate Silver, come on.
		Is there an element of misogyny, too?
		No.
		But young men don't tolerate the degree to which women get offended.
		Now, of course, we can jump over to our friends over at r slash centrist who posted this.
		What I love about centrists is that they're just liberals.
		You know what it is?
		See, like, I'm a centrist.
		I really am.
		I can logically break down why I voted for Trump.
	I supported Democrats in 2020.
	And then I voted for Trump only after they ousted Tulsi Gabbard, Andrew Yang, and Bernie Sanders.
	Well, I wasn't as big of Bernie Sanders at the time.
	2015 I was.
	2020 I was still very much saying Democrats need to regain control of their party, but they lost the plot.
	And so where do we end up?
	Well, I guess Trump, because that's what a centrist would do.
	I'm looking at my options, the far-left whack-a-loon Democrats or Donald Trump, and I'm like, well, I win some things with Donald Trump.
	He's done a pretty great job cutting back the size of government.
	It's a good thing.
	Everybody agreed with this for 30 years, cutting waste, fraud, and abuse.
	Take a look at the centrists.
	Top comment.
	I'd be interested to see how this study was conducted.
	Mental health isn't viewed the same in these communities.
	So I could definitely see conservative views of mental health influencing the responses.
unidentified		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Conservatives are more likely to reject mental health as a concept and let their ego determine their answers.
		No, they're just liberals.
		They're like, we're not liberals.
		No, you're liberals.
		You're just like center-left liberals.
		You're not centrists.
		Democrats support policies that make dealing with mental health easier.
		People vote for their interests.
		More medical support on democratic policies.
		More people covered and more types of coverage.
		Less stigma for needing medical support.
		More support if it makes working difficult.
		I wonder if there's a strong correlation between voting dem and having major medical debt.
		Probably.
		Breathtakingly stupid conclusions about people self-reporting their own mental health.
		Do people fall for this?
		Once again, if you look at the centrist's subreddit, they're just like, isn't it weird that Trump keeps defending Peyton?
		Uh-huh.
		No, don't get me wrong.
		The centrists in this subreddit do criticize wokeness in the left, but that basically should just be r slash liberal.
		The only problem is liberals taken over by woke.
		Now, if you wanted to ask me, Tim, why do you think it is that people are leaving the left?
		I will throw you to a video of me.
		Well, it was a culture war debate show we did.
		And I'm just going to show you the introduction.
		A liberal woman debating me said, this is what a woman is.
		What is a woman?
unidentified		What is a woman?
unidentified		It is a performance.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What does that mean?
unidentified		It means that you appear a woman.
		It's like porn.
		What's porn?
		Well, you see it when you know it, right?
		If you look at it, that's porn.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What did you say?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You see it when you know it?
unidentified		It's not porn.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Why can't liberals answer this question?
unidentified		Do you want me to go why?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because they're scared to?
unidentified		No, because we went into it before.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is a woman an adult human female?
unidentified		No, not at all.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		The issue is that it's Sorites Paradox.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		Do you know what sword I, sword's paradox is?
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		I've got a, And I say, that's a heap of sand.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		Would you agree with me?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I know this.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I use it all the time.
unidentified		Okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		How many grains of sand makes a heap?
unidentified		Exactly.
		Right?
		And the line there is hard to know.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		Right?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's really not.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		So Blair White is a man.
unidentified		Is a man.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And Blair White will tell you Blair White is a man.
unidentified		Okay.
		That's fine.
		Okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, you get the point.
		I love this episode.
		Shout out to Kyla.
		Am I getting your name wrong?
		I meet too many people.
unidentified		Sorry.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But this is the point.
		Being a woman is not a performance.
		Okay.
		Actually, where in this, I think she mentions like something about having boobs, right?
		She mentions, like, how do you know a woman?
		Which would mean they can no longer get medical treatment or prescriptions.
		Yeah, yeah, that's funny.
unidentified		it okay
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		whatever anyway she asks me like how do you know i'm a woman and i was just like you have a woman's body you've you know your skin blah blah blah and then she actually says that having bigger breasts like breast implants will make you more of a woman and i was like no she's like well it makes you more femme and i'm like no dude this is why guys but largely everybody is leaving the party liberals trying to justify being liberal with insane contradictory statements like this
		holy crap take out of the I would love to see this.
		I want to see Andrew Tate.
		Tate, I want to hear you say this.
		Say, the bigger the woman's tits, the more of a woman she is.
		And watch every liberal start bashing their faces on the table, screaming how offensive and misogynistic that is.
		Then play this clip where a liberal literally argues that.
		It's incoherent.
		Therein lies the issue.
		Why would someone want to align with a political party that is illogical, incoherent, and can't solve their problems?
		Now, don't get me wrong, there's a lot of people who do.
		And it's largely because they don't pay attention to the news.
		So, there you go.
		Democrats are in for a world of hearts.
		I don't see them course-correcting.
		Because even when we have someone like Kyla on the show, and I said, you're a conservative.
		She's like, no, I'm not.
		She then just engages in this long-winded sophistry to justify why she actually believes things that make no sense.
		She argued that the United States should issue false passport documents identifying men as women and women as men if they choose so they can enter a foreign country in violation of international treaties.
		It's the stupidest thing.
		And then by the end of it, she was like, actually, no, they shouldn't.
		And I'm just like, okay, it's incoherent.
		Just say you agree.
		Then the question becomes, what is it to be liberal?
		See, the issue is...
		Because then everyone would say Tim Pool is a liberal.
		Easily.
		What makes you left or right is whether you believe certain things and are willing to admit them.
		And Democrats are not.
		And young guys are seeing it.
		And everybody's seeing it.
		So good luck.
		And we'll say if the Republicans don't get their ducks in a row, they'll lose the midterms.
		We'll see.
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		Not that one, this one.
		Let's jump to the story from the New York Post.
		Trump threatens large-scale fines on California after trans athlete wins girls' track events.
		Trump has declared early Tuesday that large-scale fines will be slapped on California after a transgender athlete racked up a pair of wins at a girls' high school track and field championship despite the commander-in-chief's prior warnings.
		A.B. Hernandez of Europa Valley High School in Southern California captured first place in the girls' high jump and triple jump events at the May 30 meet in Clovis.
		Quote, A biological male competed in California girls' state finals, winning big, despite the fact that they were warned by me not to do so.
		Trump warned.
		As Governor Gavin Newsom fully understands, large-scale fines will be imposed.
		Last week, under pressure from the Trump administration, the California Interscholastic Federation, which governs high school sports in the state, adjusted its rules to allow biological females who lost qualifying position to transgender athletes to compete.
		I think it is insane, if you're to ask me, that we are still at this point.
		And once again, as we are discussing how Democrats are losing support, losing favorability, young men are shifting rightward, it's plain as day.
		This is the issue.
		It is illogical and incoherent.
		There's a reason why we separate the biological sexes in sports.
		Because females are not going to defeat males in almost every single sport, physical ones.
		And even honestly, in chess it happens.
		So we create separate divisions.
		Yet here we go.
		Now, Donald Trump has issued his warning, and we're going to be joined by Mike.
	Let's see if we can get this pulled up for you guys.
	Let's discuss this.
	Hopefully this works.
	Looks like we're...
	Looks like we're having computer issues because it's not set up properly.
	Let me see if I can get it going.
	And let's see here.
	Is it rolling?
	Hey, can you hear me?
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I can hear you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Amazing.
		All right.
		I was worried there for a second.
		Welcome.
		How's it going?
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		Fabulous.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		Just here in D.C. It's finally warmed up around here.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Excellent.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Would you like to introduce yourself for those that are just tuning in?
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'm Tina Deskovich, the CEO and co-founder of Moms for Liberty.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right on.
		Well, thank you for joining me.
		should be great.
		We just had a story that's actually, I think, from just yesterday, and it's still ongoing in many different states, where biological males are still competing in women's sports, particularly in California, and Donald Trump is threatening once again to pull federal funding.
		I'm curious what y'all at Moms for Liberty are working on and your take on this.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		We have daughters.
		And watching our daughters work for years and years to compete in their sport and then watching them be robbed of all of their accomplishments that they've had over the past several years, it's devastating to many of our moms.
		And so we've been standing firm on this issue.
		The whole entire time when the Biden administration rewrote Title IX and tried to make it, you know, law last year, we actually sued the Biden administration in conjunction with another organization and three states.
		And we won a federal injunction that said if you were a member of Moms for Liberty and your child attended a public school, that that public school was exempt from having to implement the Biden Title IX.
		So we've been in this fight for the last few years, strongly fighting.
		We're continuing to do so.
		And what's happening in California and Oregon these last few days is devastating to watch.
		But we are so proud of these girls and the actions that they're taking.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's interesting.
		You mentioned if you were a member of Moms for Liberty, then this applied to you.
		I'm curious because it seems like anytime the ruling is against conservatives or Trump, there's a universal injunction applied on everybody.
		But when you guys said it only applied to your organization.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, it's still being debated in the court system, believe it or not.
		Even with President Trump's executive order, it still has to play out through the levels of court system.
		And so it is the last thing we expected that judge to rule.
		We were asking for relief from the cases that we So we were grateful that it expanded to all of Moms for Liberty members across the country.
		I mean, it helped us grow our membership like crazy last year.
		But also, it was a little bit odd, because if it's good for Moms for Liberty members, if it's right, if it's true, if it's just for Moms for Liberty members' children, then it's good and it's right and it's true for all children in America.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What would happen if someone joined Moms for Liberty right now?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Retroactively apply, I imagine, right?
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		It does.
		Yes, the judge is allowing.
		So I can't remember what month last year was the ruling, but we then ran campaigns saying, joins Moms for Liberty, because the judge was accepting.
		We were sending him lists every 30 days of all the new school districts that now were exempt, or the schools that were exempt.
		And so, yeah, it is retroactive.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Now, you guys, you had a press release today.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Did you want to tell me about that or what's going on?
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so today I'm here in D.C. Obviously, we're having a press conference at 1.30 on the steps of the Supreme Court.
		Today, or actually June 1st, but the month of June is the 100th anniversary of the Supreme Court ruling Pierce v.
		Society of Sisters.
		And most people have no idea what that is.
		But that was when the Supreme Court established that children are not mere creatures of the state.
		In other words, parental rights were then codified and protected by the Constitution.
		We're going to celebrate that on the steps of the Supreme Court today.
		But we're also going to take that time to warn parents across America that parental rights are under attack like never before.
		And we are lucky or blessed, however you want to look at it, to have U.S. Secretary McMahon joining us today.
		We're going to have Florida or U.S. Congresswoman from Florida, Ashley Moody.
		We're going to have Congresswoman, or did I say Congresswoman?
		Senator Ashley Moody.
		Congressman Mary Miller is going to be with us.
		I'm the president and CEO of Alliance Defending Freedom.
		She's a warrior herself.
		So it should be a great press conference.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Wow, really cool.
		I'm curious about your political background.
		I imagine you consider yourself conservative or Republican.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I am a Republican, and I am definitely a conservative Republican.
		My son has a shirt that says Libertarian-ish, and so I've never worn that shirt, but I do feel like I could put that on for sure.
		We came up with the name Moms for Liberty in 2020.
		One, when we launched Moms for Liberty, and there was a reason we used the word liberty.
		I definitely lean libertarian.
		I believe in liberty and freedom.
		It runs deep in my veins.
		And so that's where I stand.
		My political background is, you know, zero until 2016 when I served on a school board locally in Florida from 2016 to 2020 and ran my campaign to run for school board.
		So that's the experience I had before launching Moms for Liberty.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I just bring it up because I feel like a lot of people – I was just talking about this in the previous segment.
		They're leaving the Democratic Party.
		They're no longer identifying as liberal.
		And for a lot of people that I know, they don't like Donald Trump.
		I'm from Chicago, a lot of liberal people.
		But the issue of gender has been outsized for them because there's no logic behind it.
		It kind of just slaps you in the face.
		I'm curious if you've experienced that personally or people in your organization that they used to consider themselves liberal, now finding themselves aligned with Republicans and conservatives?
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I love that question for a lot of reasons.
		One, at the high level, I'll tell you, this issue of gender, girls, or boys and girls'bathrooms, boys and girls'sports, polling, And so there aren't too many issues that Americans agree on, but they agree that boys don't belong in girls' bathrooms, and they believe that boys don't belong in girls' sports.
		And so we can unify around that.
		But as for Moms for Liberty membership, it's fascinating.
		I launched a podcast a few weeks ago where we just bring on Moms for Liberty chapter chairs.
		That's all we do.
		And we just tell their story for an hour.
		And even I've been surprised every week as we talk because every one of them so far has said, oh, I didn't vote for President Trump in 2016.
		I didn't vote.
		One of them said, I don't think they didn't even vote for him in 2020.
		Anyway.
		You get the point.
		One after another.
		I left it blank.
		I didn't vote.
		Most of our members were not political at all.
		I was in an Ohio chapter leadership training two years ago.
		I had about 15 Ohio chapter leaders there.
		half of them voted for Obama for president.
		And so I think Moms for Liberty, you know, the media tries to pigeonhole us one way or another, but in reality, we are just moms who are just really fed up at what's going on in schools and around this country Has it been changing rapidly?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Has it been improving?
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		I mean, President Trump took office and within days we were invited to the White House for the signing of getting boys out of girls sports.
		And then we were invited to the White House to reduce the size, hopefully, and the Department of Education.
		And then we were invited to the White House for this and this and this.
		And he was just spitting out these executive orders.
		They were all campaign promises of his.
		I got on the Trump bandwagon heavily last year because of his campaign promises to our platform and our issues that we care about.
		And he has been delivering left and right.
		And we are so grateful for him because we were in a sad state of affairs last year with the weaponization of government against moms calling us after speaking at school board meetings and asking if our mental health was okay, if we owned weapons.
		It really was getting out of control under the Biden administration.
		Average moms were under attack.
		And so President Trump is, you know, he's tackling that weaponization of government.
		He is getting the swamp out of government.
		He's returning local control where education needs to be.
		Education is in such a bad state of affairs right now.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Wow.
		They were calling you?
		Was it like the DOJ?
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so I'm not sure how close you followed this, but this was over the span of two to three years.
		So Merrick Garland put out a threat tag for parents when they were showing up at school board meetings and a hotline, right, that you could turn parents in.
		And that was happening.
		People were calling that number on our moms.
		And so some of our moms were getting calls from the FBI on the phone.
		And as a side note, my co-founder and I went on 60 Minutes with Scott Pelley two years ago and told the story and he called us liars.
		He said the FBI doesn't call on the phone.
		And we were like, yes, they do.
		They absolutely do.
		They were calling our moms and interrogating them.
		By asking them questions, if there was a weapon in their home, if they had any mental health issues.
		And one of them even said, you know, here's your case number, but don't tell anybody I called.
		Like, what is going on in America?
		And then, you know, we partnered with the Heritage Foundation, and they did.
		Some records requests of the DOE and of the DOJ to find out what was really going on and why they were coming after Moms for Liberty so bad.
		And they refused to supply those records.
		They ended up having to sue for them.
		And what we uncovered and found out is the, oh my gosh, so many things happened.
		The SPLC declared us a hate group.
		And right before that, the Biden, And that lined up right with the DOJ and their threat tag.
		And then, you know, then it was the National School Board Association came after us.
		And then it was just one hit after another.
		And so the whole system was just weaponized against us.
		But you know what, Tim?
		We just kept going.
		Like, whatever.
		We don't care.
		Like, this is all too important.
		You guys are nonsense.
		We're just going to keep going.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I do love the idea of the government trying to get in between mothers and their babies.
		It's like, I don't see that as a victory for this machine.
		But actually, our studio and where we are, we're just outside of Loudoun County.
		Ah.
		Right, which is in many ways ground zero.
		Exactly, for a lot of this stuff.
		And so our other studio literally is 30 seconds.
		We're right by the bridge that goes into Loudoun from Maryland.
		When all this stuff was going down, we heard, All about it, all day.
		We would drive into, say, Leesburg, and we'd see parents holding up signs, and they were tabling.
		And the crazy thing is, it's not a conservative area.
		These were just rather apolitical parents who were thrust into this.
		And what gets crazy is you had that story of the father who got arrested after his daughter was assaulted in a bathroom.
		And I remember the DOJ listed these parents, and I think this included you guys, as terrorists.
		What was that?
		Was it a terror watch list or something?
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		What they did is they used the act that was used after 9-11, they used the guidelines of that to label parents as domestic terrorists.
		And that's what kicked off that hotline to call and the threat tag, because they were using the Patriot Act to come after us.
		And so it did stifle speech.
		I mean, at that time, it made social media...
		And at one point, Twitter, when it was Twitter, froze our account.
		And, you know, PayPal froze our assets.
		Governor DeSantis in Florida had to hold a press conference to get our assets released.
		And so it's just, it's the most absurd story.
		It's almost hard to believe because really, we are just moms, like, trying to stand up for our children.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I didn't even know it was that bad.
		this is crazy.
		I mean, we, I mean because it went after Trump.
		It went after you guys.
		It went after parents.
		It went after businesses.
		It went after targeted individuals.
		But I wasn't aware to the extent of which they targeted – I mean I heard some of the stories, but this sounds like Gestapo-level government collusion.
		To shut down a political group, I mean, violating the Constitution in so many ways, this is just—I'm shocked by it.
		Were you scared at all, having the FBI target you guys?
		No?
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		No.
		I mean, it stifled some of our moms.
		It did scare some of them.
		But I would say 99% of them, it strengthened their resolve.
		We know what's right and wrong.
		And no government entity, no SPLC— You know, at one point after the SPLC declared us a hate group and put us on their map, and let me point out, Tim, also, they just updated their map.
		They added TPUSA and some others.
		But 20% of their hate map, their hate map that has the KKK on it, 20% of their hate map is Moms for Liberty chapters.
		That should make people's minds explode.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What are you guys doing?
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		It's so ridiculous.
		And so, no, not scared.
		I will say that about that same time period, I don't know if you know who Anonymous is.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I know all about Anonymous.
		It's not a real – it's a media manipulation.
		I'll tell you that.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		Well, they came after us, and they locked up our website for the longest time.
		We had to invest money in cybersecurity.
		They tried to access our database.
		I mean, it was just, we have been under every kind of attack you can imagine, not to mention postcards from Satan that are postmarked from Colorado on a weekly basis, and which is, you know, casting hexes on us.
		And so we've had, like, the amount of attacks that we've been under under the last four years is, it means nothing to us anymore.
		Like, let it roll and keep fighting.
		I know you're doing something right when all the evil in the dark and the underbelly of the world is coming after you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What is the reason?
		Like, what are they citing that you're doing?
		I gotta be honest, your group sounded to me like fairly innocuous, like any other advocacy group.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I know.
		Isn't it wild?
		You know, we're called the hate group.
		We're called bigots.
		We're called racists.
		It's really, I think the left saw the power of our organization early on, and we needed to be destroyed.
		And so we are none of those things, but we needed to be destroyed because, Tim, we also ended up having a huge impact on the 2024 presidential election with Get Out the Vose efforts in swing states.
		And so I think even before I knew that we were going to have that kind of impact when we created Moms for Liberty, the left, the powers that be, saw what was happening.
		They saw the media coverage.
		They saw the power.
		They saw the grassroots.
		And they knew what was going to happen because they've been doing this a whole lot longer than we have.
		and we had to be destroyed.
		Too bad for them.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And the narrative for a long time—and you probably know this—was that Trump did very poorly among suburban women, and he needed to improve that.
		So I suppose when Moms for Liberty emerges out of a true need because the—I don't know what it is liberals are doing.
		Like, I used to be—I consider myself just a liberal, city-dwelling, normal guy, and I, in 2020, wanted to vote Democrat.
		I ended up going for Trump because I felt like they were losing it.
		To me, it sounds like— Instead of trying to engage in a normal political process, they tried to just abuse the system, terrify, intimidate, and, you know, it's like a mafioso-style attempt to terrify women.
		But that's not going to stop people from making their votes.
		I mean, I guess to try and stop your organizing efforts, I'd imagine.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, of course, shutting us out of social media.
		I mean, we had to be very specific with any vendor that we used because they would just shut us down, freeze our data, lock us out.
		And so early on, we had to be strategic in that, you know, and we're kind of having a little fun talking about the government coming after us and Satan coming after us.
		But it's also very serious.
		This is the United States of America.
		And I never thought in my entire life that our government would act in that way.
		Thank heavens for President Trump.
		I voted for him in 2016 and 2020, but I will say I went to that ballot box in 2016 for him very reluctantly.
		I didn't even know who to vote for that day.
		I stood there and I tried to think about who I aligned with more and I pushed that button.
		You know, in no way was I early on on the Trump train, but now I am committed to him because, my goodness, what he has done to save America is remarkable.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What was the issue that lit a fire under you that got you started in all of this?
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		You know, there's quite a few.
		I served on the school board from 2016 to 2020, but it was my own children.
		I started seeing, you know, a heavily involved PTO mom, as you can imagine.
		I was the PTO president.
		I think the school even at one point set up an office for me at the school because I was there so much.
		And so, but what I wasn't involved in is school district policy and no parents are, right?
		If you volunteer in your kid's school, you show up, you make cupcakes, you, you, you, And so once I stepped into that arena, I really had my eyes open.
		I like to say that I saw behind the education curtain and really started seeing that parental rights were, parents were abdicating them in one respect.
		They were just getting lazy and turning their kids over and dropping them off.
		But also, school districts were taking a lot of leeway.
		And then as 2018 started, while I'm on the school board, these gender guides, support guides, they called them here in Florida, started appearing in school districts.
		They were never brought before any school boards.
		They were put in by the staff, by the bureaucrats.
		And honestly, it's a policy change.
		So these gender guides, what they did is they said how they were going to handle transgender.
		Issues that were coming up.
		But they allowed minors to make decisions about their pronouns, their names, which bathroom they were going to use, which locker room they were going to change in, and even where they were going to stay on overnight field trips.
		And minors were able to sign them with an adult at the school as the witness.
		No parents notified.
		And many of these transgender support guides actually said, And so to me, that was a huge red flag on what was happening with parental rights in this country.
		And for me, that's the line in America.
		That's the line in the sand.
		You want to divide what parents can do to raise their children.
		You have destroyed families.
		And if you've destroyed families, you've destroyed communities.
		And if you've destroyed communities, you've then destroyed our country.
		And so it may sound melodramatic, but I see the direct line.
		And so, you know, Moms for Liberty was launched.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I completely agree.
		I mean, we've talked about the books they put in schools.
		There's that viral video of Senator Kennedy reading from two books.
		It's particularly graphic and disturbing.
		And then there's all these videos of parents going to these school board meetings or these PTO meetings or whatever and saying, here's a book you gave to my child.
		And as soon as they start reading it, they say you're going to be removed because that's graphic and obscene.
		Here's what I'm curious about.
		I'm in West Virginia.
		We're very close to D.C., Maryland, Virginia.
		It's like a tri-state area.
		On our side, which is like the Harper's Ferry side of the eastern panhandle, it's 55-60% Republican, but there are a lot of Democrats because they come here from D.C. They try to go to an area where the laws don't affect them, I guess.
		It's better here for obvious reasons.
		But the school out here, the individuals on the school board brought in this gender ideology stuff and these books, and it was confusing to the locals because this is MAGA country.
		You know, certainly there's a lot of people who are Democrat-leaning, but how did the school end up bringing this in?
		I'm curious if you guys have dug into this, how it is that so many schools seemingly around the same time started adopting this gender ideology, even in areas that seemingly don't support it.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		You know, this would need a 12-hour show to dig in to the depths of all of this, but I'll try to give you the 30-second version because I don't think we have 12 hours.
		It's coming from several different directions, but you can peel back the layers, and honestly, it's a global issue right now.
		It's not even just in the United States.
		It's at the UN.
		It's being delivered through the WHO, and underneath there, when you pick up the cover, the International Planned Parenthood Federation is right there, loud and proud, with their own guidelines and standards to bring comprehensive sexuality education.
		To kindergarten, actually pre-K through 12, globally.
		And so I was just in Poland a couple months ago.
		They actually flew me over there to speak because their new education leader that has been put in place starting September 1st is going to implement comprehensive sex education, which includes all this gender ideology.
		and they're a staunchly Catholic country and they are terrified of what's coming.
		And when I spoke to them and I put the genderbred person and the unicorn...
		Person and all the things that we see in schools all over America right now in kindergarten classrooms, they were shocked and appalled.
		And so I met a guy from Kenya who said, it's in our villages.
		I don't understand why they're teaching our five-year-olds.
		They can be a boy or a girl or neither or both.
		And I said, you know, it's a global thing.
		And so if you want to hone down more in America, it's these NGOs.
		In Florida, it was – And they actually, they then got a speaking spot and presented it at the School Board Association meeting, the Florida School Board Association, and the Superintendent's Association meeting.
		And so, and then they deliver it like this.
		If you don't adopt this, kids are going to commit suicide.
		And then all these bleeding heart teachers that are in education are like, oh, I don't want our kids to commit suicide.
		We got to make sure this is put in place now.
unidentified		Wow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And it's not true.
		One of the things that we've gone over quite a bit, I've debated this so many times, desistance rates.
		You know all this, I'm sure, but for the viewers, desistance, which is when a child who is gender dysphoric simply ceases being dysphoric, not detrans, desistance, it's somewhere between 65 and 90 plus percent.
		So when you do the math and you look at suicidality, ideation, or otherwise, among trans people, that means if you take a child who's dysphoric, who has a 60-90% of just growing up and being normal, give them gender-affirming care, I'll put in air quotes, you increase the likelihood of suicide or suicidal ideation substantially.
		What they've offered makes literally no sense.
		But that's why it feels so strange and the way you're describing it, I mean, perhaps it's silly to say, but it's like a global conspiracy.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, go get your tin hat.
		I'll put mine on for this one because I've been studying enough and watching it unfold enough and talk to enough people around the globe now.
		You can call it a conspiracy, but I think I've seen the memes on X that are like, it only takes two years for the conspiracy to become fact.
		And that's where we are with comprehensive sex ed and gender ideology.
		I mean, you see it unfolding everywhere and it doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
		But I think the good news is, They're getting angry.
		It's starting to happen to them, to their daughters, to their children.
		And unfortunately, it's too late for a lot of them.
		I mean, you can see the stories of the detransitioners and things happening.
		But we're going to continue to fight loud and proud and boldly against this and share facts and information like you just shared.
		Because places like Great Britain, I'm sure you know, we're about five years behind them.
		They were all in for this and they've had to shut down some of their gender transition clinics.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Lastly, you want to tell us what you're currently working on?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, obviously you have this press conference today, but what's the big thing that you guys are doing?
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Moms for Liberty is working on so many things.
		But one thing that's important to us is school board races.
		There just isn't any...
		And so this year is an odd year.
		So states like Ohio and Pennsylvania have all of their school board races this fall.
		And guess what?
		Planned Parenthood is now endorsing in school board races in Pennsylvania.
		They're actually running candidates to sit on school board.
		And so you have to ask yourself why.
		And we have to put candidates against them that are pro-parental rights, pro-children, protecting children.
		And so we're putting all our eggs in those baskets to fight those candidates in Pennsylvania and Ohio this year.
		You know, we do a lot of other things, Tim, but that's a huge priority for us right now.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right on.
		Well, I do appreciate you joining me.
		Where can people find you or find out more?
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, go to momsforliberty.org.
		Obviously, our website, you can sign up to be a member.
		You can start a chapter if you don't have a chapter in your county.
		You know, in just four years, we've grown to 48 states.
		We do have a chapter in West Virginia.
		It's very active.
		And we have 130,000 members.
		We're in 320 counties, but there's 3,000 counties.
		So we have a lot of growing to do.
		So you can join us, you can sign up, and then you can find us on all social media outlets at Moms4Liberty.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right on.
		Well, good luck.
		I appreciate the work you do.
		Thank you for joining me, and I look forward to seeing more from you.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		Thank you so much for having me on.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		Have a go and take care.
		All right, ladies and gentlemen, that was Moms for Liberty.
		Amazing work.
		I didn't realize the extent of the...
		I know most of us knew about the story where the feds were accusing parents of being terrorists, things like that, putting out these documents saying watch out for parents at school board meetings.
		This is crazy.
		The extent to which the Democratic establishment, uniparty establishment, was weaponizing the DOJ to terrify voters.
		This is why they're losing.
		We can see the desperation that they had.
		And we can see why regular people weren't having it.
		But I wanted to add one thing, you know.
		I'm a new dad.
		You guys know this.
		I have a daughter.
		And we're not going to be putting our kid in these schools.
		You know, it's not going to be easy.
		We're absolutely planning on having more kids, and we know that challenge of...
		I shouldn't say I know it's not fair, but we are planning for how do we – And for so many parents, school is a place they can bring their kids where they trust their children will be looked after and taught while they do the jobs they're supposed to be doing or have to be doing.
		Now, me, I'm probably a bit more traditional.
		I think it is paramount that the mom is with the kids and being motherly.
		I think the dad obviously has his place as well, doing chores and helping with the family, but the dad is out, you know, hunting the bears and the deer and bringing back the resources to the family, and mom is helping craft a family and new children.
		Dad obviously provides guidance, but I like that family structure.
		It's not easy for everybody to accomplish, and so many people rely on these schools, but the schools have betrayed these families.
		For us, we're looking at either doing some kind of pod learning or homeschooling.
		And we have the privilege to be able to do that, but I don't trust any of these schools.
		Not at all.
		And I know most people aren't, and that's why we have groups like Moms for Liberty.
		I hope Trump can reform or get rid of the Department of Education, and Moms for Liberty can succeed, and many people can start to trust schools will actually be there for their kids, and they can trust their teachers.
		But man, we've got a long way to go, I'll tell you that.
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