All Episodes
May 28, 2025 - Tim Pool Daily Show
01:03:53
Democrats NEW CON, Tapper Claims Biden SCANDAL Bad As WATERGATE, Feigns Ignorance
Participants
Main voices
a
ashton forbes
14:47
t
tim pool
41:39
Appearances
j
jake tapper
01:14
Clips
k
kayleigh mcenany
00:12
l
lara trump
00:34
m
michael kratsios
00:34
| Copy link to current segment

Speaker Time Text
tim pool
Well, I can't say that I'm surprised to see Jake Tapper now calling the Biden cover-up almost as bad or as bad as Watergate.
This is a new con.
They know they're exposed.
They know people can see that Joe Biden was infirm.
How do you recover?
Well, certainly there are many prominent Democrats that are still playing the game that Joe Biden was fine.
They're hoping to capture that audience.
Jake Tapper's game plan is how did we miss this one?
And maybe the conservative criticism about me was right.
Do you believe this guy?
Honest question.
Do you actually believe that he was taken for a ride by Democrats in the Biden administration?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
This is the CNN play.
If there was any actual integrity at CNN, they'd fire Jake Tapper for his years of defending Joe Biden.
Now, I got the videos for you where he says to Laura Trump, you're just making fun of his stutter.
Everybody could tell that Joe Biden wasn't all with it.
But the problem is CNN viewers at the time weren't getting exposed to this information until the debate happened, which appears they intentionally threw Joe Biden under the bus.
I think the plan was all intentional.
I think this is how they hoped it would run out.
Now, of course, the claim is Kamala Harris's team was furious.
Biden didn't step down early to give her give her more runway.
No, they wanted no time at all.
They thought people hate Trump.
They'll vote Democrat.
Get Joe Biden out.
Who cares?
Kamala Harris will win because she's a Democrat.
However, it didn't work.
It didn't work because trust in the corporate press is shattered.
They're desperately trying to buy it back, and they're doing it multiple ways.
They've got Project Sam speaking with American men, they call it.
They're big play to find their liberal Joe Rogan, which it's not going to work.
They've got, was it Derek Thompson?
The Atlantic says, I know.
Let's make health and fitness podcasts at the very last minute.
Tell people to vote Democrat.
I seem to recall a one Casey Neistat telling everybody to vote for Hillary Clinton back in 2016.
If you're not familiar, he's basically the godfather of modern vlogging.
I don't know if he's as big today as he used to be, but it was a big deal.
And he came to regret it later.
Jake Tapper.
Now has, according to LA Times, a bestseller.
I think it might be number one.
I'm not entirely sure.
But this is the new con.
The book is a bestseller.
unidentified
How?
tim pool
How is this possible?
We may see it, but understand, many people do not.
Enough people saw through this to elect Donald Trump, or at the very least, enough people were feeling the pain that they thought voting for Donald Trump was the right move.
But Democrats, the corporate press, still do everything in their power to obfuscate.
So with Trump winning, and it becoming painfully obvious to everybody that Joe Biden was infirm, suffering from stage four or five, I don't know, cancer, prostate cancer, metastasized to the bone, with not much long to live, it's sad, yes, people are starting to say, hey, wait a minute, maybe this guy was sick for a long time.
Jake Tapper now comes out and says, you know, we have to recognize that governments lie to people.
He knows this.
He was in on the take.
The game plan they have now is to act like they were taken for a ride by corrupt government actors, and they're the honest press.
Trust us.
Read our version of history with our new best-selling book, Original Sin.
And it works.
It works on the weak-willed.
So we'll get into all of that, my friends.
Before we get started, don't forget to smash that like button.
Share the show with everyone, you know.
Take the URL to this video right now.
Post it on every social media platform.
Let's make Rumble number one.
How about that?
And I'll give a shout-out to Steven Crowder and the Mug Club.
This is your Rumble morning lineup.
I am transitioning.
I make jokes, right?
Into the afternoon hour.
I'm your host, Tim Poole.
Of course, you can follow me on X and Instagram at TimCast.
Before we get started, my friends, make sure you check out that link in the description below.
BooniesHQ.com.
Now, I have a question for you.
Do you believe that bears should be wearing flannel shirts, straw hats, and carrying shotguns?
If you do, then the right-to-arm Bears skateboard is the skateboard for you.
Head over to boonieshq.com, pick up one of these boards today.
I'm doing a big push on these because we may actually be retiring several of the graphics, as we've got several new graphics that are coming up.
Maybe I shouldn't say just yet, because it'll be more impactful if we just put them up and you can buy them.
But also, we're going to keep Step on Snack and Find Out as one of our signature boards forever.
So if you think people who step on snack should find out, perhaps you should buy that skateboard.
Or my personal favorite, the 28th Amendment.
Chickens being necessary to the security of a free state.
unidentified
The right of the people to keep bear and breed chickens shall not be infringed.
tim pool
And it's a half joke, but I actually agree with this amendment.
The spirit of which is that the American people have a right to grow their own food and not be reliant on massive corporations and genetically engineered garbage crops and artificial dyes.
We should have a right to grow on food.
And believe it or not, as much as this is a silly kind of joke, there are many jurisdictions in this country that bar you from growing vegetables or even having small animals like chickens.
I disagree.
Check it all out at boonieshq.com.
But let's get into the news.
We have this from Newsweek.
Jake Tapper compares Joe Biden health cover-up to Watergate.
You don't say, Jake.
I'm going to say this.
I think it's worse than Watergate.
And I'm going to add on top that Jake Tapper's, what's the right word?
As a co-conspirator, it's substantially worse than Watergate.
Although I do see in the chat some people are mentioning that, you know, Woodward worked in naval intelligence and his first big story was Watergate.
I don't know if that's true, but someone tweeted it.
The author of a bombshell book laying bare former President Joe Biden's alleged declining mental faculties.
During his presidency, he says the scandal may even be worse than Watergate.
He's right, it is.
It's remarkable that Jake Tapper is so late to the game.
This scandal is substantially worse than Watergate.
You had the entirety of big tech censoring people.
You had all of the corporate media, save Fox News, lying and covering this up, including Jake Tapper.
And a government, a White House administration, we don't know who was actually running the show.
And to be fair, my view largely at the time was that Joe Biden was running the show, and it's exemplified by the ineptitudes of the White House and their administration.
I think Joe Biden was muttering to himself, and people were like, okay, and kind of just doing whatever they wanted.
Now, there are a lot of people that believe that there was a secret guiding hand behind the scenes, perhaps an Obama.
Maybe, I don't know.
To me, it looked like Joe Biden sitting at the table was like, come on, guys.
Afghanistan.
Get out of Afghanistan.
And then everybody at the table is just looking at each other like, what did he just say?
And they didn't know.
So they kind of just did whatever they wanted.
I think if Obama was actually in charge, you wouldn't have gotten chaos.
You would have actually had a coherent presidency.
I think what actually happens is Joe Biden ain't with it and nobody wants to be the one to say, you know, maybe we should remove this guy.
That being said, I think the plan from the DNC was here's how we get Biden out.
We put him up at the debate.
I also believe that his resignation letter from the candidacy wasn't written by him because it was published abruptly on his ex account without a statement from him.
I think the dude got to the point where they were like, we're taking over.
But I do think largely.
Not that he necessarily was in charge.
I think his staff was.
But they were acting like a bunch of chickens with their head cut off because Joe Biden, who was supposed to be the head of the administration, was infirm.
Tapper was appearing with his co-author Alex Thompson to promote their book Original Sin, in which several named insiders claim the former U.S. president was faltering physically and cognitively in a decline that was hidden from the American public.
Hidden to who?
This is what I absolutely love about this whole narrative, is that Donald Trump largely wins because you hit nothing.
We could see Joe Biden.
We could see him fall up the stairs.
Come on.
Truing in a shop at a pressure.
Batacaf care.
Next nilresent.
The dude had a new voice.
We call those Bidenisms or Biden's famous neologisms.
Words he invented.
Personally, my favorite, of course, is Truing in a shop at a pressure.
Because it's a long one.
I like Batacaf Care.
Batacaf Care.
What does that mean?
I have no idea.
I think he was trying to say better health care, maybe.
True international cooperation under pressure, maybe.
True international cooperation under pressure.
It's like, how do you speak?
You know what?
To be fair, when Jake Tapper heard true international cooperation under pressure, he was thinking to himself, like, wow.
He's able to say so much crammed into a small space.
His brain must be working at 10 times the capacity of mine.
To be fair, I think it may have been, but not for the reason Jake Tapper thought it was.
Biden stepped aside on the presidential campaign trail last year amid fears of his health and cognitive abilities, which left Vice President Conal Harris the top of the Democratic ticket.
She later lost to Donald Trump, and some Democrats were furious at the bungled campaign.
Everybody knows this.
Now, the book by Tapper and Thompson, which has shot to the top of the bestseller chart, suggests that senior members of Biden's admin were aware of his fragile health for some time before he stepped down.
Dude, let's be real.
The guy has stage four cancer.
It's in his bones.
This is not something that just happens.
Now, I had the honor and the privilege of speaking with Dr. Drew when this news broke, I believe, a couple weeks ago, who explained.
This is, even if it was aggressive cancer, it's a couple of years to find this.
And there's no way they did a routine exam and said, oh boy, stage four cancer.
Considering this man is a former president and was a president, he's getting the best healthcare imaginable.
And if he's experiencing any kind of symptoms, they'd be like, homie, you got serious cancer and it's in your bones.
So no, we don't believe it.
That being said, we live in this wacky world where, you know, let me throw it to Bill Maher.
I've had a great conversation with the guy, but he told me on Club Random, you watch too much Fox News.
And I was like, and CNN and Politico and the New York Times.
I read everything, right?
The fascinating thing is, I don't think Bill watches enough.
We had a great conversation, by the way.
But for people who live in MSNBC or CNN world, do they not know these things?
I got to be honest.
I don't think they live in the same world we do.
I think, you know, people like Bill Maher.
He's got a consequential, I call it the most consequential political show.
And that is specifically because he's been in the air for like, what is it, 30 years?
And his show has had a major impact culturally.
I mean, maybe the viewership is there today.
I don't know.
My point is, the show mattered.
The show matters.
Still, everybody wants to be on it.
Steve Bannon goes on it.
But I don't believe that Bill Maher and these prominent liberal thinkers are on X. See, I go on Twitter and I follow liberals and conservatives.
And so I see videos of Trump and they say, look, Trump's struggling to walk downstairs.
And I'm like, not really.
It was raining and it was wet and he was being very careful.
He didn't fall.
I'm not going to run down a slippery ramp either.
And I'm 39 and physically active.
I did watch the video of Joe Biden saying Trinidad shot out of pressure and Batacaf care.
And I had questions.
But see, here's the thing.
Bill Maher says, you watch too much Fox News.
Perhaps I should have said, no, actually, I'm just on Twitter all the time.
And you can look at who I follow.
You can go to x.com slash Timcast.
Do it right now.
Follow me and look at who I follow.
And you will see liberal journalists, left activists, conservatives.
I try to try.
I think I know I'm probably not following Harry Sisson, although he does pop in my timeline quite a bit.
But I should follow him.
I follow a lot of these because I want to know what they're thinking.
Steve Bannon points this out.
He watches MSNBC all day.
He says, I know what conservatives think.
I want to know what they're saying and what they believe.
Indeed.
Take a look at this.
Rolling Stone says, despite backlash, Jake Tapper's book on Biden's decline becomes a bestseller online.
Original sin has prompted backlash and soul searching from Democrats and comes amid news of Biden's cancer diagnosis.
That's right.
Original sin.
President Biden's decline.
It's cover up.
And his disastrous choice to run again by Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson, who only recently discovered this.
The best part is, if they went outside of their offices in New York and walked up to literally any person and said, do you think Joe Biden's with it?
They'd be like, yeah, probably not.
That's why Donald Trump won the popular vote.
To be fair, they need only ask three people to really get the ratio to the right probability.
I suppose in New York, you're going to bump into a lot of liberals who have no idea what's going on.
But I'd imagine you might bump into some people who are like, I'm a tourist and yeah, Biden ain't working.
Let's roll.
Fox News Post.
That's a typo.
Come on, mediaite.
What are you doing?
Fox News host asks, should liberal outlets face consequences for not covering Biden's decline?
Well, my question is, what consequences do they mean?
We don't need that song.
kayleigh mcenany
May go down as bigger than, wait for it, Watergate.
jake tapper
It is a scandal.
unidentified
Yes.
jake tapper
It is.
It is without question.
And maybe even worse than Watergate in some ways.
THAT'S WHY I'M GOING TO BE And, you know, so the idea that, yeah, we don't mean to exonerate.
The only reason that we have the Watergate thing is there because we quote Archibald Cox, who had an interest in keeping that president propped up.
kayleigh mcenany
Emily, here's why I agree this could be worse than Watergate.
You know, I've been pulling out the policy implications of Biden's disconnect.
tim pool
Well, you get the point.
I want to give a quote.
They say Fox News raised eyebrows on Tuesday with a post on X asking if liberal adults should face consequences over how they covered or did not cover President Joe Biden's mental fitness.
The answer is, yes, they should.
But what are the consequences?
Obviously, I don't think the government should go in and pull their licenses or shut them down.
They do have free speech so they can pander for whoever they want.
But I think they need market consequences.
That's what I would advocate for.
And if nothing else, people should stop watching them.
Here we go.
New York Post says Jake Tapper slammed for rewriting history to cash in on Biden's decline in bombshell book despite defending ex-president while he was in the White House.
I think I've got some of these tweets.
Oh boy.
Yeah, this one's going massively viral.
Stephen L. Miller says here's Jake Tapper incensed over Joe Biden's stutter and outraged over claims of Biden's cognitive decline.
unidentified
Every time he comes on stage or they turn to him, I'm like, Joe, can you get it out?
lara trump
Let's get the words out, Joe.
You kind of feel bad for him.
jake tapper
How do you think it makes little kids with stutters feel when they see you make a comment like that?
lara trump
First and foremost, I had no idea that Joe Biden ever suffered from a stutter.
I think what we see on stage with Joe Biden, Jake, is very clearly a cognitive decline.
That's what I'm referring to.
unidentified
It makes me uncomfortable to watch the money on stage search for questions.
jake tapper
It's so amazing to me that...
cognitive decline.
lara trump
When you're trying to tell me that what I was suggesting was a stutter.
jake tapper
I think that you were mocking his stutter.
unidentified
I have no idea, Joe Biden.
jake tapper
Yeah, I think you were mocking his stutter, and I think you have absolutely no standing to diagnose somebody's cognitive decline.
lara trump
What I'm saying, Jake, is that we completely see that Joe Biden is struggling at many times on stage.
And it's very concerning to a lot of people that this could be the leader of the free world.
That is all I'm saying.
I genuinely feel sorry for Joe Biden.
jake tapper
I appreciate it.
I'm sure.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And that's Jake Tapper.
And that's not the only one.
I think there's a, there's a bunch of other ones.
I don't know if I haven't pulled up.
We've got other clips of, I have one last question for you, Laura.
Took personal offense, got emotional, and didn't report the news.
If you're a journalist and you want to interview somebody, I'm going to tell you.
You'd say, Laura Trump, what do you think of this interview that people are talking about?
She'd say cognitive decline.
And then the journalist could simply say, is this just your personal opinion?
Or are you getting information from, say, medical?
Is this just you viewing it?
And then she'd say, yeah, I mean, I'm watching this and here's what I think.
And your response should be, thank you for your thoughts.
You are Laura Trump.
Journalists aren't supposed to get angry and emotional, but that's what it's turned into.
And these people have the nerve to say things like, Tim Pool's not a journalist because only we're journalists.
Bro, you guys lie about everything, okay?
You lie about everything.
I'm not going to sit here and say that Donald Trump is a spring chicken.
He's an old man.
But he's...
And what does that mean?
It means he's got energy for an old guy.
Now, with all due respect to Trump, the man, I don't know how he does it.
Of course, they try and push lies about him.
But as far as I can tell, he's on TV almost every single day doing the job.
I've met him in person.
He's with it.
It is kind of funny to hear, though, right?
We live in this world where I can tell you.
I can't.
I'm a guy sitting in a room right now.
I'm staring.
There's a little camera ring.
That's all I see.
It's a lens and the reflection in it a little bit.
And most of you at home, you're watching this.
You're looking at a screen.
So who am I, right?
What's the difference between, say, like me and Jake Tapper?
Now, me, I can tell you that being somebody who personally met Donald Trump, I was like, the man's with it.
He walks up.
He smiles.
He looks at everybody, shakes hands.
He makes comments about them.
He went around.
He was there all day at Mar-a-Lago when I met him.
I met him at the Libertarian Convention.
And I have to say, it was rather mundane.
I told Adam Friedland this.
I went on his show, and I was like, he's kind of boring.
And it's like, oh, meeting the president is so boring.
What a humble brag.
I'm like, no, I like my point was.
It's not.
You walk up to him.
It's like, nice to meet you.
Thank you.
Thank you for coming.
I really do appreciate it.
It's like anybody else.
And he was with it.
The funny thing is that Democrats say the exact same thing I'm saying about Trump about Biden.
Now, my question to you is, how come we're always right?
That's my question.
How come we're always right?
How come we were right about lab leak?
And I'm not going to give myself full marks for this one.
I'm a middle-of-the-road guy.
And people would say, Tim Pool's a fence-sitter.
No, you know, I will.
This started when someone commented on a video of mine like 10 years ago and said, Tim Pool's a milquetoast fence-sitter.
And I rolled with it.
I was like, absolutely.
My position is, give me the proof and I will accept it.
Show me the video and I will analyze it.
For Donald Trump.
He's an old man.
He's no spring chicken.
But he's doing the job and we can watch it.
Those that are paying attention and watching his speeches, watching his videos, sometimes he slurs.
It's happened.
But for the most part, it's like, I'm not really concerned.
He seems to be sitting there signing the executive orders and doing the work.
Joe Biden, we all watched, and he was not all with it.
Not at all.
In fact, quite barely with it in any capacity.
And then Jake Tapper came out.
And, oh, I love this one.
Joe Scarborough saying, I called him cogent and I undersold him.
This is the best version of Joe Biden ever.
How many of you guys have ever seen Tenacious D?
Pick of Destiny.
One of my favorite movies of all time.
So anyway, for those that don't know, I just absolutely love this scene.
They go play open mic night.
It's Jack Black and Kyle Gass.
And the open mic host, who is it?
Paul F. Tompkins, I think the guy's name is.
And he's like, next up we have, you know, and he names them.
He doesn't care and he's blonde.
He walks away.
Then they play and nobody likes them or something.
But in Jack Black's imagination and dream of what happens, the guy goes up on stage and Paul F. Tompkins, the open mic host goes, this next band is the greatest band, period!
And he's just like, way over the top, banging on the table, screaming.
And that is the fictional reality that Jack Black's character wanted to live in.
I think actually he's called Jack Black in the movie, so whatever.
That's what I see with Joe Scarborough.
This version of Joe Biden is the smartest version I have ever seen.
Yeah, dude, were you dreaming?
Or on drugs?
Perhaps both.
Mediaite says Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson on explosive Biden book.
Media cover it, cover up, and why The View won't have them on the air.
Oh no, The View won't have them on the air.
Harry Sisson chimes in.
Naomi Biden just slammed Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson's book about Joe Biden really well written because they're going two directions on this one.
For the people who are truly captured, they're going to maintain Joe Biden was always the right choice.
And Jake Tapper's con, the game he's playing is they're trying to go after the middle-of-the-road audience.
They've got Project Sam, the quest for the liberal Joe Rogan, and the Jake Tapper, how could we have missed this one?
I can't believe they lied to us.
Believe me.
She says, just read a copy of this silly book, and if anyone is curious for a review from someone who lived it firsthand, this book is political fairy smut for the permanent professional chattering class.
That's you and Joe Biden!
What are you talking about?
But see, this is part of the game.
The Biden camp is going to say, you're the chattering class of elites.
Okay.
That's all of them.
They're trying to act like they are anti-establishment.
Check this clip out.
Jake Tapper at the age of 56 and after 30 years in what one may loosely call journalism pretends to have just woken up and realized what is in fact the first axiom of Journalism 101.
Politicians and governments lie and journalists shouldn't blindly believe them.
jake tapper
And I think that we need to be skeptical of everything that we are told by people in power.
And, I mean, that obviously should be the mantra of being a journalist to begin with.
If your mother tells you she loves you, get a second source.
But we just need to remember that.
Like, politicians lie.
White Houses lie.
Power is an aphrodisiac.
And we just need to all remember that and not take at face value anything that we're talking about.
tim pool
Hey, I got an idea.
I didn't plan this, but let's go Jake Tapper Net Worth.
Now, these net worth searches usually aren't pretty good.
HotNewHipHop.com, an excellent source, I would add.
That's a joke, by the way.
Says he's worth $16 million.
Google AI Overview says that his salary is $7 million per year.
I'm going to estimate that if he's getting $7 million a year, his net worth is substantially higher than $16 million.
Unless he's buying lots and lots of chimichangas, which I doubt.
So basically, he gets paid $7 million a year.
He probably only spends tens of thousands per month.
The rest of those millions, he's going to put into hard assets, which likely will accrue value.
So I'd estimate his net worth way higher than that.
So, power is an aphrodisiac, he says.
What about you?
See, there's two ways to look at this.
He took the opportunity to cash in on a book, which is now a bestseller, because he's a scumbag.
He saw the writing on the wall.
No one believes Biden is fit.
And no one did.
And it was clear after the debate.
So he gets together with his buddy.
And, you know, I'd love to have a brain probe.
Because I just want these people to be exposed.
We know they know.
They know we know they know.
And they lie anyway.
Because they're going after the lowest common denominator anti-Trump low-hanging fruit.
unidentified
Now.
tim pool
The bigger picture may be, this is part of how we regain the confidence of the people.
The corporate press led people on a wild goose chase.
unidentified
A wild goose chase.
tim pool
Claiming Joe Biden was fine when he wasn't.
A lot of people blindly believed it.
And they said he was, they watched MSNBC, they watched CNN, they said, all of this is true.
And then they watched Joe Biden debate and they said, what did I just watch?
There's that one Trump reply guy.
I'm not going to say his name, though.
But he tweeted out, Joe Biden's going to ride in on a bicycle, run to the podium, slam a bottle of water, bang on the table and say, sup, bitch?
Something like that.
And everyone's like, bro, have you ever seen Joe Biden walk?
And then after the debate, he said, what the F did I just watch?
These people genuinely thought that Biden was coherent and capable.
Because the media lied about everything.
Well, once they realized the media was lying, what's their defense?
Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson coming out and saying, we missed this one.
Oopsie-daisy.
And here we go.
But I'll tell you what matters to me.
Take a look at this.
From Fox News, Watchdog finds no evidence Biden knew of crucial climate executive orders, demands answers on who signed Autopen.
Power of the Future is calling on Congress to investigate the validity of former President Joe Biden's signatures.
Indeed.
A pro-energy group is renewing its call for an investigation into over a half-dozen Biden admin executive actions related to climate that it believes should be deemed null and void due to them being signed by an autopen without any public comment from Joe Biden, confirming his knowledge of them.
Power of the Future, a non-profit organization that advocates for American energy jobs, reviewed eight Biden executive orders that it says were significant shifts in domestic energy policy and said it found no evidence of the president speaking about any of them publicly, raising concerns the orders were signed by Autopen and that he was not aware of them.
Okay, I say we void all executive orders that were signed by Autopen.
I don't care, Trump's or otherwise.
Let's roll, baby.
The issue is clear, my friends, and I think we all know it.
The pardons should be vacated.
The executive orders should be vacated.
It's time to use power.
Maybe the Republican Party, as we know it today, doesn't want to.
But I do, and I look forward to doing so.
That's going to wrap up the first portion of the live show.
We do have an amazing interview coming up.
Ashton Forbes, I believe, will be joining us.
And we're going to talk about UFOs.
And directed energy weapons, the government may or may not have capability.
It's going to be a little wild conversation.
I'm a skeptic, mind you.
But there are interesting bits in the news that have been going viral related to UAPs and members of Congress having these hearings.
So it should be interesting nonetheless.
That will be up at 4 p.m.
At rumble.com slash timpool or youtube.com slash timcast.
Smash the like button, share the show with everyone you know.
You can follow me on X and Instagram at timcast.
Thanks for hanging out, and we'll see you all in that next interview.
As for everybody else, we will keep this going by kicking off the story.
Take a look at this from the Daily Mail.
Scientist delivers ominous message to humanity after UFO covered in strange writing is found.
I saw this.
And it's this, like, metal sphere.
I wonder if I can play the video.
unidentified
Okay, it's all Spanish.
tim pool
I'm not gonna...
The images obtained yielded surprising results.
Inside, you can see a dense layer surrounding the white outline.
I don't know that this is real.
Maybe it's fake.
This is an image.
It's got strange symbols on it.
I don't know why it needs to have those strange symbols on it.
Interestingly, there's been a viral video going on for some time that many claim is debunked, showing orbs circling an airplane.
Now we have this story from Colombia of a so-called UFO in the town of Buga, zigzagging through the sky.
They say it was struck by powerful energy, fell down, and this is what we got.
Interesting.
Scientists have been analyzing it.
And it's got three layers of metal-like material in 18 microspheres surrounding a central nucleus they are calling a chip.
Now, I'm not sure if aliens exist.
We had Eric Burleson, the rep, on several times, a couple times in the past couple of weeks, as he discussed his hearings on UFOs.
I'm a skeptic.
Aliens could be hiding from us, perhaps.
I mean, do geese understand what we are?
They can see us.
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
Do ants?
Maybe they're aliens that have the technology that we can't.
See them.
Maybe they can move interdimensionally.
Who knows?
I'll tell you what I think is more likely.
In this article from some time ago, U.S. government announces it has achieved ability to manipulate space and time with new technology.
And that's where things got interesting.
Let me play this clip.
michael kratsios
The well-intentioned regulatory regime in the 1970s became an ever-tightening ratchet.
First, hampering America's ability to become a net energy exporter and then making it harder and harder to build.
We seem to have lost focus and vision, to have lowered our sights and let systems and structures and bureaucracies muddle us along.
But we are capable of so much more.
Our technologies permit us to manipulate time and space.
They leave distance annihilated, cause things to grow and improve productivity.
tim pool
Very, very interesting.
So, let's dive into this.
I'm going to bring in our guest now, Ashton Forbes, who's generated a lot of attention talking about these issues.
I believe we have this loading up now.
Usually takes a quick second, but bear with me.
And, Ashton, can you hear me?
ashton forbes
Yeah, how's it going, Tim?
tim pool
How's it going?
ashton forbes
Oh, it's gone, man.
It's gone.
tim pool
Four orbs I see floating behind you on that wall.
So, have you seen this story coming out of Colombia of the Bugha Sphere?
ashton forbes
Yeah, I've seen it.
A lot of people ask me about it.
They ask me, is that the thing inside of those orbs spinning around the plane?
And I tell people, I don't think so, but I don't really know because I can't tell what's inside the orbs.
tim pool
You've been putting out information that you believe this is, the video that we're getting is some kind of government's, what is it, infrared technology for video or something?
Do you want to explain that?
ashton forbes
Yeah, so I've been exposing the MH370 videos.
I don't know if you can share what I show here.
I'll show the screen.
These MH370 videos, the biggest revelation that has come along recently is that this is Gorgon Stare.
Air Force's Gorgon Stare technology in one of these videos that people think is fake.
They think it's, I don't know, whatever, Unreal Engine, Armor 3, Call of Duty, or whatever.
It's not any of those things.
Those MH370 videos are real leaked military footage.
The big revelation was finding out is Gorgon Stare wide area motion imagery.
That's why we see the video move around.
And that's why we're seeing a low frame rate.
That's why we see the coordinates in the bottom left update in a higher frame rate than what we see the actual background move around in.
And I had multiple sources confirm to me that the video is actually Gorgon Stare.
So anyone that doesn't think so, I mean, it's simple to confirm it.
All you have to do is just talk to somebody in the Air Force and they can confirm that that's legitimate.
tim pool
So this is a video of, this is research you've had going back to MH370.
Were you doing this research before those videos came out?
ashton forbes
No, that was just something that when I saw those videos, saw that they seemed to be authentic, I dug into it, researched it.
That's when you invited me back on the show back in, I think it was January of 2024.
And the reason why I wanted to talk to you is that you had said that you had a source that told you that we have faster than light communication.
tim pool
Yep.
ashton forbes
And if those videos were real, which now I know for sure they are, then I knew that must be real as well.
And that's the exact same science that is on display in those videos.
Quantum tunneling, faster than light communication, we're seeing that just scaled up in the video.
tim pool
So for those that are not familiar, just to make sure we give you guys the proper context, MH370, of course, that was the Malaysian airliner, went missing?
ashton forbes
Yep.
So MH370, Malaysian airliner, disappears March 8th, 2014.
Never seen again.
We get a few pieces of debris wash up in Africa.
Everybody admits there must be some cover-up going on.
Planes can't just disappear.
Planes should leave a massive debris field if it crashes into the ocean.
And it's taken me two years to figure out what really happened.
And now I think I'm fairly confident that what it was was not just a simple covert operation.
It was a counter-espionage operation.
The person responsible, the people responsible for MH370 is China.
China was trying to steal our technology, and the CIA and the United States said that's not going to happen.
And you say, well, that's kind of crazy.
They would target a civilian airliner for something like that.
Well, welcome to the price that it takes to keep us safe in America.
tim pool
But you believe that—so there's this video.
There's two videos.
And they show orbs circling—it's four orbs circling around the plane?
ashton forbes
So it's actually three orbs circling around the plane.
The fourth orb, if you remember, Dave Rossi was the person I brought with me on your show in January of 2024.
He's a defense contractor.
He's the one that came up with the idea in theory that there's a fourth orb that determines the entanglement.
They entangle the three orbs to the fourth orb's location.
And that's how it determines the vector of where it's actually going to go.
tim pool
Interesting.
ashton forbes
And I actually found out what the orbs are, too, in the last two years.
I couldn't believe I would find it, but I'm just going to read off this paper and what it's called.
This is by Frank Mead, who is Air Force Research Labs, 2006.
Propulsion and power generation capabilities of a future dense plasma-focused fusion system for future military aerospace applications.
And it says what this can be used for.
Is a dense plasma fusion and propulsion technology with an advanced lifting body airframe utilizing air-breathing magnetohydrodynamics, which means it just zaps the air and uses it as energy, to produce a single stage-to-orbit vehicle.
So a vehicle that can just go from the ground into orbit.
tim pool
Where was this published?
What is this document?
ashton forbes
And the papers that people are going to want to read are the Air Force Research Lab papers from the early 2000s.
That's when they figured out between the 90s and 2000s, they figured out that plasma can become stabilized under the right conditions.
And they looked at the Russian hypersonic, the Ajax and the scramjet designs, and they figured out something called perfect plasma.
Listen to the efficiency rate of this engine from this scientific paper.
The Q factor was varied from 3 to 6. That's the overunity factor.
tim pool
What do those mean?
ashton forbes
That's producing 3 to 6 times excess energy.
So from a fusion reaction that we've been trying to produce publicly, to get a Q factor of 3 that's sustained, we'd basically have free energy on this planet.
So a Q factor of 3 to 6?
In one of these orbs they're generating, it says resulting in gigawatts of excess power.
Thruster efficiency was varied from 90% to 100%.
What they've figured out is perfect propulsion.
So you see these orbs, and what the orb really is, is something where it's got like a cavity that sucks in the air.
So while it's moving around, it's actually producing energy just from moving around in the sky.
And the efficiency of the engine itself is near perfect efficiency.
So the end result of this is that you have a ball of electricity that's producing essentially free energy by just moving around in the sky.
tim pool
But you say essentially it's actually consuming matter and just converting the matter at a very efficient rate.
ashton forbes
It's a very clever use of normal physics.
Exactly.
tim pool
Which is most technology.
ashton forbes
And that's what I think all this UFO stuff is going to boil down to.
tim pool
I was going to say, that's just most technology.
We're finding better ways to efficiently convert energy, or we're consistently trying to do so.
I'm skeptical.
You know, what I will say is the weird thing to me, and I want to preface this one more time.
The reason I thought it was interesting to talk to you is we have this story of the Bugha Sphere, and maybe completely unrelated, but here you have this story where in Colombia they see this giant silver sphere floating in the sky.
They knock it down, and when they scan through it, it just looks like dense metal with weird microspheres inside of it.
Maybe it's a hoax.
I don't know.
There was a story where they claimed to have found alien mummies or something.
It could all be fake.
I have no idea.
But I will say this, and this is not to get to the validity of...
I honestly don't know.
I'm skeptical.
But I've been getting—as soon as you mentioned, like, we're going to interview you again about this stuff, because there is one more story.
This is the science administrator for the Trump administration saying that we have the technology to manipulate time and space, which I'll talk to you in a second.
So these stories pop up, and I'm like, all right, let's talk to Ashton about what he's been working on.
I started getting hit—inundated by a bunch of people.
Angry, furious.
Yo, we've had flat earthers.
We did a show on the culture war where we had a flat earther, a geocentrist, and a standard physicist debate these issues.
And they asked us to pull up papers and pull up these videos.
Nobody messaged me.
Nobody tweeted at me.
Nobody attacked me.
But when you posted that we were going to talk about this, That just talks about Sasquatch and UFOs and ghosts.
Why is this one issue so heated that I have to, have to believe the VFX guys claim it's debunked?
I'm like, sure, I don't care.
It's fun to talk about.
But I got a wave of hate and attacks for even entertaining this.
And, you know, my view is, you know, they've got a video of an orb flying over Columbia.
We had Rep.
Eric Berluson, a congressman.
Recently had hearings on UAPs where he was told by some aerospace physicist engineer that there are four species of aliens.
Again, I'm not saying I believe any of it, but when members of Congress are having these conversations, I'm like, hey, let's talk about this space and what people think may be happening.
The backlash I found pretty interesting.
ashton forbes
Oh, man.
Also, I just got to tell you, I intentionally leaked that because I wanted you to see that.
I want the world to see what people are trying to do to me behind the scenes.
Because like you said, people don't do this for Bigfoot or Flat Earth or whatever else.
I'm out here just trying to tell people we've got teleportation is real and trying to explain it.
I'm trying to solve a cold case of a missing airplane.
And people are acting like I'm, you know, the worst thing on the earth.
Like, that should really tell people something.
I had Ross Colhart, News Nation anchor, or, you know, a journalist, quote-unquote, email Scott Roeder, the guy that did that story about the Las Vegas aliens or whatever it was, the tall aliens, emailed him because the guy put a post up on social media that was supportive of me.
Emails him and says that he makes up stories about how my followers are sending him death threats and I'm the worst person in the world.
That's an anchor on News Nation doing that.
unidentified
No way.
ashton forbes
They were trying to say I'm a grifter.
I'm not selling anything.
They tried to say I'm crazy.
I learned quantum mechanics.
They tried to say I'm an alcoholic.
It's crazy.
I have better people in my family that suffer with that.
tim pool
Well, they're not very good at smearing you, I guess.
You know, that is the point.
Of all of the subjects, this one became a weird hot-button issue.
And I've never cared all that much about the MH370 story.
I remember it was on CNN 24-7.
They wouldn't shut up about it.
It's like their biggest story.
And now there are people.
I randomly got people posting super chats on IRL saying, you're a scumbag, Tim, pushing fake videos to trick stupid people.
And I was like, what?
And I'm like, we've talked about way crazier stuff.
We talk about ghosts and demons and stuff.
Why is this one?
But let's get back into it.
I did find that interesting, but we had that story, I think it was a month or two ago, where that science administrator for the Trump admin said, our technology allows us to manipulate time and space.
And the first thing I thought, you know, when talking to my friends and other workers, my first question was, you know, I know the answer for me, but has anyone ever referred to any technology in common use as manipulating time and space?
No.
So is there a turn of phrase where it's like, my car goes so fast, it effectively allows me to manipulate time?
No.
There is no common parlance to claim that planes manipulate time and space as if we're exaggerating because we can fly to London in a few hours.
It sounds like what he was saying was that our trains are slow, our cars are slow, our planes are slow, and they shouldn't be because our technology has reached the level of manipulating time and space.
Now, when you look at the past 30 years of quantum mechanics, at the quantum scale, we've had numerous experiments showing the ability to manipulate time and space.
There was one study where they said they, and you probably know this better than me, they sent a photon forward and backward in time at the same time.
Things like that.
And they always preface it with, but this is just the quantum level, we don't know how to scale it up.
But it sounds like, you know, now I'm asking for your take on this, The technology actually goes a bit further than what we know, and that would make sense.
The government keeps this technology a secret.
ashton forbes
Yeah, absolutely.
And so if we had a unification theory of quantum and general relativity, the small and the very large, then we could scale it up.
So if they were hiding a unification theory, if they knew what the answer was to the questions in physics that we struggle with, dark matter, dark energy, and how it all comes together, then they could scale it up.
And I would argue they have figured that out.
I would argue they've had that figured out for many decades.
And the reason why they've hidden it is that it leads to fusion and it leads to free energy and other things that our society is not prepared for.
Now you mentioned that Eric Burleson talked to Eric W. Davis, that science guy talking about the aliens.
Fun fact about Eric W. Davis.
He's the right-hand man of Hal Pudoff, who I've identified as the world's leading expert on zero-point energy.
He's a government spook.
He might be MJ number one, if you believe in the MJ-12 stuff.
tim pool
We got a lot of jargon real quick.
So first, what is zero-point energy?
ashton forbes
So zero-point energy, you can think of it as what makes up space-time itself if you were to take out all the energy.
Take out all the light, take out all the heat, and what's left.
What we refer to as space-time, what gives our physical reality structure.
That space-time is the scaffolding, or that zero-point energy is the scaffolding holding up that space-time.
That's why distance is an illusion.
Because if you can manipulate the zero-point energy, you can manipulate space and time.
That's what they figured out.
And so how do you manipulate it?
Well, we know.
The Casimir effect shows us.
That's why you hear all these people on Joe Rogan and everything.
I always talk about Casimir effect.
Just put two plates together.
And they come together.
tim pool
In a vacuum, yeah.
unidentified
Why?
ashton forbes
Because they're pushing out certain wavelengths.
Because think about the zero-point energy is like the white noise, but it's just a bunch of waves everywhere.
So if you push out certain waves, you manipulate that zero-point energy.
tim pool
So in the film The Incredibles, for those who remember, the bad guy syndrome used zero-point energy to be able to move any object by pointing at it.
ashton forbes
And so think of it like using noise cancellation, like with your headphones.
If you were to cancel out all that noise, Then you can theoretically push out space and time or manipulate space and time.
So what are the orbs doing in the MH370 videos?
They are jamming themselves together to create a very powerful EMP, a non-thermal radiative pulse.
And what that does is push away all the zero-point energy.
Salvatore Pais, U.S. Navy engineer, his patents basically show this.
And when you do that, for a brief moment, that plane blips out of existence.
It blips out of existence, and it's in the true nothingness, the true nothingness.
And so what this would mean is that there really is this extra dimension, but it's not like the extra bizarro dimension.
It's just a shortcut between any two points of space and time, an Einstein-Rosen bridge.
tim pool
Like an Einstein-Rosen bridge, you said?
ashton forbes
Yes, like an Einstein-Rosen bridge.
And then there's this idea of ER equals EPR.
Einstein-Rosen bridge, a wormhole, is fundamentally equivalent to Einstein-Poldoski-Rosen, which is quantum entanglement.
So if you can do...
Use quantum sensing to look for these wave patterns in this medium.
Then you can detect, you can create a Morse code situation.
You can create a situation where the plane disappears out of time and then reappears somewhere else.
tim pool
So you mentioned earlier that I had talked about faster than light communications.
And I've had people tweet at me that's wrong and I'm crazy and Superchan stuff.
The general idea is quantum entanglement, and you might be able to explain this better than me, but the idea is two, I think, two electrons are entangled.
ashton forbes
So you just entangled two particles, and here's what they figured out.
There's a DIRD, Defense Intelligence Reference Documents.
These were the most popular classified documents in the 2010s.
There's like 38 of them.
Eric W. Davis, the guy that was sitting next to Eric Burleson, he wrote six of them.
unidentified
Wow.
ashton forbes
One of them is quantum communication systems.
In fact, they figured out a way where they can get around the retro causality issue.
They basically put in a speed limit.
Into the quantum entanglement.
And what this would allow you to do, Tim, is you could control a rover on Mars in real time.
tim pool
Yep.
ashton forbes
Think about that.
You could control a rover on Mars in real time.
tim pool
But beyond that, you could send a video in real time.
So right now, what's the light delay?
Like 20 minutes to Mars or something like that?
ashton forbes
Yeah, I thought it was 8 or something.
But yes, whatever the delay is, you could get away with that.
There would be no lag.
If you'd like to play video games, we could create a quantum network where there's no lag at all.
Where all the actions are seemingly happening in real time.
tim pool
So what was explained to me is, real quick, for people who probably don't understand this stuff, entangled particles, they do something to the particles.
There's two particles that, I'll give you the real simple layman term.
If you charge one or interact with one, the other reacts the same way.
And so the general idea is...
You are poking one and the other one's moving as if being poked despite no one being in the room.
So then they realized, hey, we can send binary through an entangled particle in one place and have it instantaneously transmit that binary.
It's almost like a sub-quantum or a quantum transmission line.
It was explained to me that we actively are building these systems.
It doesn't really matter that much on Earth because you can almost nearly instantaneously communicate as it is in terms of military importance.
But as we're getting into space travel, we're going to need this technology, especially if we start colonizing Mars.
So we're not going to be happy with a 20-minute lag time between communications.
We're going to want real-time communication.
Entanglement communication, FTL communication is that key.
ashton forbes
Yep.
And Hal Pudoff was just on Joe Rogan.
And the best part of that interview was when he was talking about his quantum communication patent from the 90s.
And I'm guaranteed that he built one of those for the government in the 90s in the version that he's got publicly.
The reason why he couldn't keep doing it is that our public material manufacturing industry, Yeah.
One more thing I want to say, too.
Eric W. Davis, his right-hand man, he's the world's leading expert on wormholes.
I think he's the one that figured out the teleportation for the Air Force.
And then the last thing is, Sonny White, he was also just on Joe Rogan.
Go look at the comments.
They're all saying that Joe Rogan needs to talk to me because I've been basically talking about Hal Putoff and Sonny White.
Sonny White showed Joe Rogan a free energy microchip.
He said, here you go.
Hold this prototype in your hand.
And said, you just put this in your phone, and your phone would never, ever run out of battery.
tim pool
And I don't know if people know this.
ashton forbes
One last thing.
Sonny White was the guy that tested the EM drive.
Remember that Impossible drive?
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
ashton forbes
He's the one that tested it for NASA and found anomalous thrust.
They had to, like, backtrack on his findings.
tim pool
I just want to clarify when we say free energy.
It's figurative free energy.
Yes.
ashton forbes
It's just a good word, but what it means is extracting this quantum energy of space-time.
If space-time has this structure and we can extract that energy, that's essentially free energy.
Or like the plasma balls, if they can just pull energy from air and just get energy from them moving through air, that's also essentially free energy.
tim pool
The energy is there.
So I don't know if this chip, is this the piezoelectricity?
ashton forbes
No, it's using the Casimir effect.
So what it does is just like the plates, but it does it on a very, very tiny scales.
So on these very small microchip scales, the smaller and closer together they get, the more powerful the Casimir effect becomes.
So the smaller you get it, the more powerful it is, the more energy you can extract from that.
So they basically create a little motor.
tim pool
But for people who don't know, the Casimir effect is a long.
This is, you go to any college freshman laboratory and they can show you this.
Two plates in a vacuum and they begin to pull towards each other because there's, I think, electrons passing between them, like they're coming into and out of existence or something like that?
ashton forbes
There's more waves on the outside than on the inside.
Think of it like that.
If there's more on the outside, on the inside, then it'll push together.
So we create this pressure.
And what it means is that unification has been figured out.
What is the unifier?
Electricity.
Tesla was right.
Electricity is the thing that unifies the very small and the very large.
There is no dark matter.
There is no dark energy.
The zero-point energy accounts for these things.
We're in a medium of energy.
The answer to the three-body problem, like, why doesn't the Earth get pulled out of its orbit by Jupiter?
Because it's outside of us?
Because we're in a medium.
It's not an empty space.
We're in a sticky substance that we're sitting inside, moving around all the time.
tim pool
Man, well, I think the reality...
Who knows?
We need a population that builds things from the smallest components, sourcing raw materials.
If the U.S. government, technology companies, or any foreign government came out right now and said, here's how we can extract energy from the atmosphere and convert it with near-perfect efficiency.
We don't need oil anymore.
The economy just implodes.
I hear a lot of people say, oh, we have access to this, to anti-gravity, or we have functional free energy.
And they've been saying this for years online in these conspiracy videos, but the government won't let us have it because the oil companies want control.
And I don't think it's that simple.
I think it's, if we're going to build rocket ships, if we're going to source the components for these machines and technologies, somebody has to mine the cobalt.
And so the concern is, So, likely, military component, military applications that are above top secret are utilizing these technologies.
And conventionally, what we see on TV and think we use, they're functional but largely for show, I'd say.
The real capabilities are probably behind the scenes, and people would be shocked at the exponential technological advancement that the military's got.
unidentified
Yep.
ashton forbes
So what I'll say is, real quick, you ask people, what's the energy source of these UFOs?
There's no SpaceX rockets with fuel tanks on them.
They're using an external energy source, clearly.
That's what people should be pressing everybody in the UFO community on.
And then Sierra Nevada Corporation is the one that produced Gorgon Stare.
So you can pretty much just say whatever you want about them because apparently they're recording secret illegal operations and sending them to the Joint Intelligence Tactical Network.
And then the last thing is you brought up the best point.
It's really not as simple as like it's just they're hiding it because they're greedy.
It's a lot more than just that.
It will literally change our entire civilization forever.
We're talking about not just free energy but transmutation as well, which means Star Trek replicators are in our future for everyone.
tim pool
And it's dangerous.
ashton forbes
Imagine if terrorists or ISIS had this type of technology.
The scary part about the technology is it's not hard to create.
It's actually relatively simple.
So when this does get exposed, we're going to get whiplash from how quickly our entire civilization changes.
tim pool
I think the issue largely is – I'm more skeptical.
I don't know that they can do that.
But let's just say the technology for replication exists.
And the way it works in sci-fi is, Star Trek, for instance, the ship is absorbing free energies in space.
Electrons get dragged in.
Those particles are forced and reshaped through a replicator into a food item or a glass or whatever.
The issue is, you need to build those replicators.
You need certain components.
You need certain raw materials that can't necessarily be replicated, so someone's got to mine the cobalt.
If you came out and said everyone's got free food forever, then people are going to say, then I don't want to work.
And they'll go lay on the grass and they'll stare at the sky.
So they intentionally keep these things scaled in such a way that the work that needs to be done will always be getting done.
And then maybe at some point...
Now, I'll give you the final thoughts, but my final thoughts.
I don't think the technology necessarily exists today, but I do think there is technology that would blow our minds that does exist, and we have no idea what it is.
ashton forbes
Yeah, no, it definitely exists.
They've got a coherent matter wave beam.
You're going to want to look that one up.
There's a good clip on my Twitter about it.
That's exactly what they can do to produce nanoscale atomic level manufacturing, which is what would be needed for a replicator.
It also is a thousand or a million to a billion times more powerful than a laser.
It's essentially like taking matter.
And combining it down to a single point, just like you would with a laser beam.
And quantum mechanics shows that that's actually possible.
The last thing I want to say is that you're right about them dripping out the stuff to us.
That's what they're allowed to do to us with fusion.
They're going to show us fusion.
They're going to say, we broke fusion.
It's going to be this really inefficient version that's slightly more efficient than probably coal and oil and stuff like that.
They're going to make it into a whole political thing, like they've done with solar and wind.
And then the last thing is, Elon Musk has no idea about this.
I know people are going, he knows he's covering up.
And I can't wait to see when he ends up finding out that the reason why the defense contractors aren't competing is because it's a national security issue.
That's the reason why they're not destroying him and SpaceX.
It's going to be the biggest red pill ever.
tim pool
Or could it be that they're beyond this technology and so they don't care?
ashton forbes
Exactly.
That's the thing.
Why are we not coming back to the moon?
I would take a different approach from Candace Owens, although I highly respect her.
I would say we haven't come back to the moon because it's a legal liability to send a rocket up to the moon that has like a low percent chance of, you know, some chance of something horrible happening when we just have magical orbs that can teleport stuff.
tim pool
Yeah, I don't know.
I mean, we've got this bucosphere, and it's always easy to dismiss these things as— The Bukha sphere is fascinating.
And we say, yeah, but maybe it's a hoax.
The problem is, any time we were to make a tremendous discovery, we can't just assume there are always hoaxes.
I think it's fair to say, trust but verify, or in this instance, I remain skeptical but open to the possibilities.
If we were to actually see an anti-grav device or a teleportation device, and everyone just says, it's a hoax.
Okay, well, maybe it's not, right?
We have to be open to the possibility, otherwise how do we discover these things?
So when people say they see aliens or ghosts or whatever it is, when people say, oh, you're crazy, the video's fake, I'm like, yeah, sure, maybe.
And I think it's fine to approach all of this from, it's probably not real, but we should be analytical of it.
We should question these technologies, because it kind of goes to that saying of, you know, Jesus returned today, how would you know it was him?
You have to be open to the possibility of miracles, of things you can't comprehend, and you can't just dismiss everything all the time.
Otherwise, you'd never discover anything.
I'll put it this way.
Imagine the first dude who ever saw a lightning strike and started a fire, and then he went and said, a flash of light blinded me, and the streak came from the sky, and then this emerged.
They'd be like, BS!
Get out of here!
You're making that up!
No, you gotta be like, okay, maybe they're telling the truth.
But thanks for joining me, Ashton.
Where can people find you?
ashton forbes
Yeah, find me at JustXAshton on Twitter.
And just remember, guys, if you gave DaVinci the iPhone, he wouldn't know what it is either.
Antigravity is just a clever use of physics.
It's not some magical thing.
tim pool
Right on.
Well, thanks for joining me.
We'll see you next time.
Take care.
I love all this stuff.
I love all these stories, claims.
Who knows?
I'm going to say it again.
I remain skeptical, and I think it's fine if you're like.
It's probably all fake.
We wish these things were true because life is more mundane.
But I do think it's fair to say the U.S. government has technology we don't understand.
That doesn't mean we can teleport.
I've heard from intelligence individuals that we are working on building faster-than-light communications.
That's not science fiction.
We have entangled particles.
This is like routine physics you get at any university.
And if these things are true, then we can conceptualize utilizing entanglement to transmit data.
I suppose we won't know unless someone releases all the information.
So, my friends, we are going to send a raid to our good friend Russell Brand, who I believe is gearing up to go live now.
And we'll send you over there.
Make sure you smash the like button.
Share the show.
Follow me on X and Instagram at TimCast.
We'll be back tonight for TimCast IRL at 8 p.m.
I humbly request all of you join us tonight at 8 p.m.
You guys have made the show consistently the second biggest show, and I really do appreciate it.
Getting back into the warmer season, which means most people are going to be outside not watching online videos.
And so it is what it is.
We need your help.
If you think that we do a good job and the show is good, sharing shows is how everything gets big.
Honestly, you go to the industry, you go behind the scenes and say, how do you get a big podcast?
They say, people have to share it.
That's how every podcast succeeds.
Somebody watches it and says, I love this show, you guys should check it out, and then boom.
So if you like this show, if you like Timcast IRL, please share it.
Export Selection