THEY ARE REAL, Aliens Exist Says Congressman, Artemis II MAKES IT Around The Moon | Timcast IRL
Tim Pool and guests confirm Artemis II's lunar orbit while debating if space missions mask ICBM development or alien hybridization programs. They dissect "cancer guns," the Greater Earth ice wall conspiracy, and critique a pro-communist Animal Farm film adaptation. The group analyzes Bob Lazar's element 115 claims, discusses toxic food additives like Gellan gum, and explores whether UFOs are PSYOPs or genuine extraterrestrial craft, ultimately questioning if geopolitical conflicts distract from advanced technologies and historical truths. [Automatically generated summary]
The Artemis 2 mission has made it from the dark side of the moon.
The blackout is over and they will begin transmitting data.
And still, people are denying that we've gone to the moon.
They don't believe it.
They think that this is a big hoax campaign, that NASA isn't real, it's demonic, and that there's like this gondola that came out of the launch site.
They say that's where the astronauts escaped to, and they've been staging this whole thing.
None of it is real.
Well, I guess you choose what you want to believe, according to all of the reporting.
They made it out and they're going to have new images.
And there are, in fact, indications of specific natural resources which we may begin to moon mine when we build a mine on the moon.
I'm excited for that.
In the meantime, Tim Burchett followed up on the statement he made last week when he said, If the American people learned about these briefings on aliens, the nation would become unglued.
And he told TMZ, They're real.
He has been briefed.
They came to him and said, They're real, that aliens and alien technology have been in contact with humans.
And I certainly hope it's not the way Matt Gaetz explained it, where he said, Women were being kidnapped to be forced to carry the babies of aliens to create alien human hybrids.
Okay, this is the news, I guess.
The big trending stories.
Donald Trump also pulled off a historic rescue mission involving what is it, like hundreds of aircraft, like 100 plus aircraft, to rescue one guy who climbed up 7,000 feet while bleeding and activating his beacon.
They came in and they got him.
It was amazing.
Apparently, the CIA was doing these decoy missions to distract the Iranian government so we could get in, get this guy, and get out.
It's amazing stuff.
At the same time, I'm just, it's a weird place in the podcast space these days.
The podcasts that tend to do the best right now are the ones that are rooting against the United States.
And by all means, I'm not saying every single one of these top podcasts critical of the war in Iran is rooting against us, but some of them literally are.
And they're telling people to watch the Iranian media for truth, which is just crazy.
But this is where we're headed.
Whatever that means, any way you cut it, there is a campaign against the United States to diminish it, whether Trump succeeds here or not.
So, my friends, we're going to talk about that and a whole lot more.
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I was living in England for the past three years, moved back when Trump was elected, and I started posting because I felt like people didn't know what was happening in Europe.
I mean, that's true too, but I mean, like, imagine 100 years from now we've overmined the moon, and there's very, like, we've just ripped out, let's say, 3%, and it shifts the moon's weight and Earth's mass increases by 0.3% of moon mass.
I listen to a lot of podcasts with futurists and stuff, and there's this one dude who's like, totally, he's like, the moon had it coming.
We are going to totally disassemble the moon, and we're going to strip mine it and turn it into a Dyson sphere, which is basically a means to collect a significant portion of the sun's energy.
Look, I'm not saying that it's a good idea because I do think that the fact that it would affect the tides is probably something that we actually have to think about.
But that kind of big idea is the stuff that people are actually starting to talk about seriously now.
Like the idea of a million satellites in space that are part of Elon Musk's data center.
He's literally talking about putting, eventually, a million satellites in space.
So, first things first, I made a video talking about how we went back to the moon.
I got absolutely dragged.
Apparently, my entire generation, my friends, basically everyone that I interact with socially, Thinks that I'm the dumbest person alive for thinking that we went to the moon, which is terrifying in and of itself.
You know, I'm a moon landing believer and I'll tell you why.
I actually don't think it's all that complicated.
Like, obviously, building a rocket is advanced science.
It's rocket science, literally.
I'm just saying, like, fundamentally, a bunch of dudes in a room with a chalkboard drafted up the trajectory of being like, we're going to blast them up on a rocket and point them straight at the moon.
And not just that, the great fear that the US was trying to instill in other countries, aside from the fact, hey, we can launch a rocket into space and then at you, was that we could have missiles on the moon.
The idea was that if we went to the moon and kept going there, what could we have there and could we launch attacks from.
From the moon, because lunar gravity is not particularly strong.
That being said, I have to admit something, and that is most businesses and even governments operate on the cost benefit analysis model that's standard.
And I got to tell you, if Ian came to me and said, we should prove how great of a podcast we are by climbing the Mount Everest and doing the show there with Starlink, and it would be amazing, I'd be like, that's a really great idea.
It would be a lot cheaper if we just made a fake Mount Everest set and didn't actually do it, and we'd accomplish the same thing.
So I do understand why people believe there was a motivation not to go to the moon.
But I will add this the functional reason, as Phil pointed out, why I think we probably did was the US is sitting in a room, and here's what I think really happened they said, hey, We want to blow up Moscow.
How do we do it?
Well, we've got a bunch of rockets, but they're easily detected.
We need a rocket that can come straight down so they can't intercept it.
Well, how do we do it?
We need a big rocket.
It's going to have to go pretty dang far.
Okay.
How do we build and test for this?
You think the American people are going to tolerate you building a world ending 100 megaton vertical drop bomb onto Moscow?
You're going to request this budget, and people are going to be standing off in Florida looking at this thing you're building and saying, Why are you doing this?
And they're like, Fair point.
So what do we tell them?
Eh, we're going to the moon.
We do some moon missions, and that'll be the PR play so that we can build intercontinental, nay, planetary ballistic missiles.
But the thing is, like, those, the people that are so distrusting of the government, like, there's a reason for that.
And a lot of it, I think, is because of COVID, personally.
I think that the COVID narrative that turned out to not be true really did, you know, did a whole one shot on a lot of people.
It ruined a lot of people's youth because if you're 16, 17 years old and you have to be locked in your house for two years, And you miss all the things that normal 16, 17, 18 year olds miss or do, and then come to find out it was for no reason, you feel like you got duped.
You feel like you can't trust anyone.
And so I completely understand why they're so skeptical and so like.
And then you toss on the fact that, to be honest with you, the government has lied to us a lot.
So, my point largely is again, if documents were uncovered that showed we never actually went to the moon, that was cover for spending $300 billion to make planetary stratospheric nuclear strikes on our enemies.
And we wanted them to know we could do it.
Because what the American people don't get for the most part on average, you talk to someone about the moon missions, they go, yeah, it was really cool, went to the moon.
What do you think the Russians were thinking when they saw this footage?
The first thing they said was, BLET.
Yeah.
What are the capabilities that they could launch one of these things?
Straight up in outer space and then come straight down onto Moscow.
And they're like, yeah, they could.
They have built a missile that can go to the moon and back.
So, that being said, if documents came out saying we never actually went and there was a soundstage for the purpose of a cover so we could build rockets to make nuclear bombs that come straight down, I'd be like, oh, that's entirely plausible.
However, I actually think if we can make rockets that can do that, there's not a firmament that's going to stop us from actually going to the moon.
And I do believe the moon missions.
There is a function for this.
Was it viable to plant weapons on the moon that could be used to launch strikes?
In the event US nuclear capabilities are destroyed, what if we had missile silos or a moon base or weapons that could be launched from the moon?
I think the real purpose of the moon landings, to be honest, my conspiracy theory is when they launched the return, what was it, the lander, it launched out.
They were testing whether or not they could deploy a weapon from the moon without needing a base.
You could deposit a weapon that lands on the moon and relaunch it at a later date with minimal energy, and it would just fly straight towards the Earth.
This particular kind of iteration of the space program, I think that the Trump administration really does want to see America do inspirational things again.
Whether it's a good thing or not is up for debate.
Now it's about building a moon base to mine rare earth minerals.
And then talking about launching it back, you can create a rail system where we can mine these minerals.
We can launch it back.
We could use probably moon rock so it doesn't explode in our atmosphere.
And then we're Completely energy dependent.
And if we get there before China, because China's going to get there, they're projected to get there about 2030.
And Artemis 4 is going to be, what did we say, 2028 is estimated.
And so we're quite literally, so China said that they're going to land 2030.
And their program is, they're looking to land 2030.
So we are actually in a race, in the AI race with China, we are now in a race to the moon because if they can do this and create this energy monopoly, it's whoever gets there first.
It's like a, it's this gigantic arc shaped structure.
And inside of it, they have basically like a hammer that spins around super fast and then launches the object out of a tube using, you know, centripetal force.
And the thing about with the moon, you don't need that much energy to escape.
Lunar gravity.
So, and because with Earth's gravity being stronger, it'll drift straight towards the Earth, towards the target.
So, we could be launching materials back relatively easily.
So, we have to deploy resources to the moon for construction and for a moon base.
We're going to have to have vehicles for return missions for humans, of course, but for materials, they're going to launch them like on a slingshot.
I want to talk about aliens, but I do want to talk about this a little bit more because I think it's important.
Candace Owens calls for extreme measure against mad King Trump.
Indeed.
She said, This is a satanic administration.
We all realize that satanic Zionists occupy the White House and Congress needs to move to have the mad king Trump removed.
All of our lives may depend upon other countries realizing that Trump is deeply unwell and surrounded by religious fanatics who have convinced him that he's a messiah.
We are in uncharted territory.
Leaders worldwide need to act accordingly.
I'm going to say this our top podcasts are anti America for the most part.
Screw it, Mark.
Very largely.
Candace is absolutely now, she's crossed the line.
Trump is the mad king who must be removed by all.
Other countries?
Okay, fair point.
She didn't say that explicitly.
But the implication is Congress needs to have him removed, and our lives may depend on other countries realizing that Trump is deeply unwell.
Started by religious fanatics.
It's not just her, but there are many prominent personalities.
I'm not going to name all the other podcasters.
She's just one of the more prominent ones, so she's going to get the name recognition.
But there are prominent personalities that I'm watching with these viral clips basically saying look, they're basically saying the U.S. is wrong, Iran is right.
And it is insane that that exists in our media and that it is sponsored, like that companies pay for these people to keep running this content, basically rooting for the destruction of this country.
And I want to stress, I'm not just saying podcasts that are like the war with Iran is bad.
I'm like, that's an opinion that was always allowed.
I'm talking about ones that are saying outright that our government is evil, that Trump is a mad king that needs to be stopped.
Her base, which is the scary part, is that people have gone, they've gone so black pilled though.
There's this like sect of conservatism that is not the antithesis of conservatism.
And they go down this black pill rabbit hole and they go into all these conspiracies and they don't trust the government so much that there's no distinction between fact or reality.
Yeah, I was just like in Minneapolis covering the rights and all the white liberal women that I met.
All lefties, but they all listen to Candace and they all march to that beat of her drum.
I even saw some of the podcasters kind of in this space also even sharing like a story that even with this F 15 fighter jet rescue operation, that the US military was like trying to kill our own airmen on the ground and people like shared that.
And it seems like that type of content is just on this algorithm.
Joe Kent shared a post from Iranian media saying, That the US was trying to kill this weapons officer before Iran could get to him.
And he posts this right before the guy gets rescued, and they're all screaming and cheering and celebrating.
So the question comes down to do you trust the Trump administration?
I'm going to tell you this I trust Trump infinitely more than I trust the Iranian government.
And it is crazy, Joe Kent's response.
So Jake Tepper calls him out and says, He's pushing this Iranian media source claiming that the US was trying to kill its own guy.
And he said Jake Tapper's job is to stop you from thinking critically.
You should be watching American media and Iranian media.
And I will say, I don't disagree, but I'm going to tell you Iranian media is outright lying about everything related to what we are doing because they are in the business of being our enemies and arming people in the region.
Now, look, if Iran wasn't arming Houthi rebels and giving militia groups weapons to kill people in the region, and you know, erase all of that.
Let's argue.
All of that may be propaganda.
If Iran wasn't blowing up civilians in this war, maybe I'd be inclined to believe something that their government or state media had to say.
But a fundamentalist country that marches in lockstep is not a country with what I would describe as trustworthy news.
In the United States, you have, as much as powerful people don't like it, Nick Fuentes gets his message out, CNN gets theirs out too, and you actually have choices within the American population that will give you contrasting viewpoints.
And for all of my complaints, we actually have.
We've got Crowder, who is obviously more pro Trump on this one.
CNN, not particularly pro Trump.
You've got Fox News, much more pro Trump, pro the war.
And you have Candace Owens, completely opposed to it.
So I'm going to say this state media from Iran, I think is trash, and you shouldn't be listening to it.
Let me clarify.
By all means, listen to it to understand what they are claiming.
I'm saying don't believe it, take it with a grain of salt.
We don't have to pretend like the U.S. is trying to free anybody.
The U.S. wants control of natural gas and oil around the world, and they will blow up whoever they have to to get it.
And if your concern about the war in Iran has to do with the morality of collateral damage and blowing up bridges, I respect that argument.
It is a good argument.
But the reason.
The Trump administration, or any administration in the US, comes out and says they hate us for our freedom or they're slaughtering protesters, is because they can't come out and say, Listen, we are going to force them to bend the knee so they stop arming extremists and they get their oil and energy on the global trade system.
And if we have to blow up their power plants to do it, we will.
But that'll teach them a lesson.
That's the mentality of what the US is willing, or the United States largely, is willing to do.
By all means, again, say it's bad.
They're not going to admit it.
But I will stress, we're all adults here.
We don't need to pretend that we're great heroes going to liberate the Iranian people.
So, a graphite string bomb, also known as a blackout bomb, is a non lethal weapon designed to disable electrical power grids by releasing conductive carbon filaments, graphite fibers, over power infrastructure.
Ian, if I say, I want to fight you, we're going to have fisticuffs, and you say, and then you pull out a hammer and say, I will crack Card over the skull if you try it, I'm going to be like, bro.
They were other countries transporting goods through the Red Sea, and the Houthis bombed them because they were like, we will not let you have trade because Israel's at war with Gaza and the U.S. is allied.
We're going to bomb random civilians in the Red Sea and blow up their cargo ships.
I'm sorry, they're the bad guys.
We don't have to support Israel or be happy about what they're doing, but the idea that the retaliation against Israel is arming psychopaths to bomb civilians, I'm sorry, those are the bad guys.
And so the US finally gets involved in a war with Iran.
I am not suggesting we should have or that it was good.
My argument is we didn't just willy nilly start a war with Iran.
I'm not happy that we're involved with it.
I would like us to not be involved with it.
I'm concerned about the long term effects.
Gas is at $4, diesel is at $6 near us.
That's freaky and it's bad for us politically, and there are risks.
But again, I think it was the Bill Burr joke.
I can't remember who pointed out on the show that you can argue we shouldn't have gone into Iran.
But to say there's no reason, really?
No reason?
I think Iran has been evil.
It's just, it's evil.
Someone comes to you and they're negotiating, and they're negotiating with heavy power, but largely with soft power.
So you give a bunch of gangbangers guns, start shooting up a school.
How does that, how does, okay, now you're getting the boot.
And that's what's happening now.
Again, I think us getting involved in these things are, it's a roll of the dice.
It's very, very bad.
It's very dangerous.
But I will just say, To the people who think Israel controls our foreign policy, Donald Trump did not discombobulate Caracas and then seize Maduro to get access to all of their oil infrastructure because Israel wanted him to do it.
He did it because he knew the U.S. was going to make a move on Iran and Trump was going to regime change them.
Again, there are these arguments and the propaganda oh, they're killing civilians, there's protests, the people don't like it.
None of that is really relevant to what the military is trying to accomplish.
That's a narrative that works for regular people who don't pay that much attention to be told, we're the good guys.
I think any way you cut it, There's going to be collateral damage, which is bad, and the U.S. goes to great lengths to avoid it, but we are the good guys here.
Ian, if I go to you and I say, I'm going to give you your money back, you don't have to bend the knee, and then you plot a gun and shoot a kid, you're getting the boot.
We said stop doing it, stop doing it, stop doing it.
They did it.
Iran is an octopus.
Iran's the head, and all their proxy groups are the tentacles.
After October 7th, Israel and the U.S. went after the tentacles.
We went after all of the proxy groups, and they got weak and weak and weaker.
And they felt it.
Their economy was plummeting.
Their currency was almost near zero at this point, hit zero.
And they were feeling it.
And so they didn't really have any other options in funding their other proxy groups because they didn't have the money because their economy is plummeting because of all the work that Israel and the U.S. did.
And so they're backed into a corner.
So they're They're backed into a corner and they say, What do we do?
How do we get out of this?
Race to nuclear.
There's one single reason, one reason only to enrich uranium past the single digits.
We're putting your oil in the system and you immediately start making bombs.
You're lying to us.
I don't even feel a need to analogize a situation like this because I think it's obvious, but let's put it like this Ian, you live on a city street, and one block over, there's a guy who keeps giving guns to gangbangers, and they're shooting people with it, and they're robbing people.
And you go to him and say, Bro, if you keep doing this, we are going to lock you down.
We're going to stop letting delivery trucks come out of the street.
You know, my concern with U.S. military foreign policy largely is around wanton actions, violence, collateral damage, but principally the failure of function.
And that is, Iraq was miserable, Afghanistan was doubly miserable.
Obviously, these moves against Iraq and Afghanistan, for anyone who's been paying attention, were a pincer strike against Iran because Iran has basically been funding all of the chaos and destabilizing the region.
Barack Obama's strategy with Syria and ISIS and was it Timber Sycamore?
Miserable American foreign policy across the board, just all the time.
And now you've got collateral damage in Iran.
That being said, the U.S. is the most moral and righteous country on the planet.
And in terms of global powers, historically, it is the most moral and it is the best.
Certainly, you can point to things that the U.S. has done that are bad.
I do it all the time.
Barack Obama ordered a drone strike.
Killing Abdulrahman al-Alaki.
And I think he did it because you want to send a message to the terrorists, we'll kill your kids.
I don't think that was a good thing.
I don't think he was a good person.
I don't think that the United States is a pure goodness all the time.
I just think that when you look at what China does, there is deranged psychotic evil and ethnocentric evil militaristic policies, like with the rape of Uighur Muslims in concentration camps and forced abortions and things like that.
Take a look at the conflict that's happening with Kashmir.
And it's not just Pakistan and India.
Don't get me wrong, the British were absolutely involved in that.
Historically, it looks like the US goes to painstakingly great efforts to be just, to be nice, to try and help people.
But some people don't want to be helped.
Some people are fundamentalist extremists who will kill you.
And that was certainly ISIS, and that was largely Obama's fault, his administration.
I just look at the US historically.
I look at the communists historically.
I look at the Nazis, the fascists, and you can go back way in time and you're like, man, the Americans are pussies.
Although I think the stories of World War II was that the Americans were the most terrifying guys to come into contact with because they were like a bunch of farm boys that would rip your throat out and they were happy to do it.
I'm going to say this with all seriousness, and let's talk about aliens.
I'm going to say this with all seriousness.
It may be that one of the reasons they will not release the Epstein info is because the children are being trafficked for the explicit purpose of alien hybrid programs.
I'm only half kidding.
And the reason why I say I'm only half kidding is while I do not believe that's the case, with Matt Gaetz coming out and saying that they have alien hybrid programs, and now Tim Burchett is saying aliens are real, if those people are telling the truth, and have you seen all the crazy videos of stuff in the sky that's been going on?
Like, I think that's what Epstein was.
However, I would put that at an astronomically low percentage.
But let me do this.
We got this story from TMZ.
Rep Tim Burchett, aliens are real.
We've made contact.
I'm going to play this video and I'm going to jump ahead.
The way you described this, whatever happened and this meeting, this briefing that was happening, was there something that if we knew, we would feel that we are in danger?
You said.
You wouldn't sleep at night if you knew the things that I saw in these briefings.
What I want to make sure I'm understanding is a member of our government has told you and others, I guess, that there is a form of alien life and machinery which maybe brought this living creature here that interacted in some form with people.
But I'm just telling you, I'm not going to lie to you.
I'd take a lie to tell you won't put me on a polygraph.
I'll take it.
But, you know, this is what the guy told me.
I mean, I've had a very high ranking naval official describe, you know, I've talked about this before, underwater craft, something big as a football field moving at over 200 miles an hour.
And there's no fish in the ocean that would do that.
We don't even have a sub that'll probably do 40 miles an hour under the, And the last thing he said before he left my office was, it was kind of weird because he didn't go out the side door, which nobody ever uses.
And he looked at me, he pulled me up close, and he said, Tim, they're real.
And that's the last thing he said to me.
That'll be the title of my book, I guess.
Matt Gaetz was involved in something here just recently.
He was interviewed and he talked about this interbreeding thing with.
He went to Area 51, where he used to work, and he said that inside they brought him inside and they showed him what I think were drones, different designs.
And he's like, oh my God, with like metamaterials that hadn't been seen yet, you know, nanotech.
And so they told him they're alien craft, and they may have even put an animal or a stuffed animal or something in one.
And they were like, look, now we're talking about chimeras.
There is a really great reason to make a fake campaign tricking Bob Lazar.
The first is the assumption that Bob Lazar is in on the whole thing.
And they said, here's the story we want you to present.
However, that's tough to maintain, right?
The easier thing to make someone a true believer would be to take a guy who should be contracted for this job, set up a stage, like not like a staging area, where you have a bunch of magic tricks and he sees them and you tell him they're real.
And then he runs to the media and leaks it.
Why?
Because the Soviets are listening.
Well, to be fair, at this point, I don't know that what year was this?
But the point is, you make your enemies think you have advanced weapons and technology they can't account for.
It makes them scared to attack you.
So, what I would say is, my belief on Bob Lazar is they psyoped him.
They said, bring a guy in, do a magic show, right?
He says, a little green man was standing next to a vehicle.
Oh, a little green man, huh?
He's later retracted that saying, oh, I must have been mistaken.
Yeah, sure.
I think they make him see all these things that he wants to believe, and then they set him up to go and leak to a reporter, and it makes great news, and then everyone tells the world America has access.
Standing waves can happen anywhere you use the right frequency on a confined medium.
Like when you disturb a slinky at one end, the disturbance Or, the wave travels to the other end.
If I then constrain or bound the slinky at the other end, the wave will reflect back.
The places along the standing wave that aren't moving at all are called nodes.
The nodes here are the places where the air is not moving, even though it's moving a lot everywhere else around the node.
So, in our levitator, our little pieces of styrofoam and lint get held there at the nodes because if they're anywhere else, they'll get pushed back in or pushed out.
Although it would be interesting if there is a way to create a self contained acoustic wave generator that could create standing waves that could move, almost like a rudimentary warp technology that moves the waves, causing you to stick to the node and move around.
There's something about reversing horizontal momentum or increasing horizontal momentum by spinning super fast that it reduces vertical momentum to zero.
To become superconducting, the material has to be cooled to extremely low temperatures using liquid nitrogen, which can dramatically change the properties of materials.
Wow.
When a superconductor is placed into the magnetic field above a magnet, it expels all the magnetic fields from within itself, except for weak points where the magnetic field lines are locked inside.
When the magnet is moved, the superconductor will move as well to keep the magnetism locked in the weak points.
With a clever layout of magnets, the superconductor can be made to travel around a track.
The superconductor is first cooled before being placed onto the truck.
You only need one power in 70,000 to be superconducting, so a small superconductor can hold a huge weight.
Similar technology is already used in certain magnetically levitated trains.
But who knows what the future holds for quantum locking?
Maybe even Marty McFly and his hoverboard will be seen soon.
So the question then is if they can maintain ultra low temperatures, you could have frictionless motion.
I mean, the amount of energy.
Well, I guess the question is how much energy do you need to reach that low of a temperature?
It's probably greater than just driving the car.
But if we could ever find a way to keep temperatures artificially cooled to an extreme degree that you can quantum lock, then you would need a minimal amount of force to propel a train, like you already mentioned, or vehicles.
So, you know, what really gets me about all this alien stuff is just this idea, like as Tim Burchett's pointing out, that aliens are so technologically advanced that we are basically nothing.
And they've got something as big as two football fields moving 200 miles an hour underwater, and we can't even go 40 in a submarine.
It's almost like imagining you're on a sailboat seeing a plane for the first time, like you're on an old caravan in the 1500s, and a plane flies by.
It must be like they're telling us, look, if they just came out and they were like, we have this technology, look, then the Chinese would be like, oh crap, they have the technology.
If you say it's aliens, the Chinese might actually believe it and then start defending against an alien attack that'll never come.
So, like, great, great, like, red herring.
Other than that, I'm just like, yo, be straight up with the tech we have and how dominant of a force we are.
Corporations, like deep seated military tech corporations that have super advanced quantum AI and stuff that we don't even know exist that are contracted by the government.
I think it's also fair to say that, you know, just because, you know, the U.S. hasn't, just because we saw those weapons doesn't mean that the U.S. doesn't have other things that we're totally unaware of, you know, haven't used yet.
I'm not going to get into details of how they do it because this story is well known in the public where a guy accidentally or intentionally made one of these things.
But they can make directional radiation, directed energy weapons.
They can literally point a weapon at you, and while you're sitting there eating food at a restaurant, blast you with ionizing radiation that will rip your internal organs to shreds.
4chan found a Facebook profile from some woman and she was making an insane amount of posts.
The posts were all just incoherent rambling.
Like paragraphs, it would say something like, I went to the gym today, but I forgot my oatmeal spoon and the dog that ran past me was yelping.
So I went outside to take a look at the rainbow, but the rainbow was actually pointed down and I couldn't actually see the sewer.
And people are like, What is this?
It's like incoherent nonsense.
And there were a few theories.
One was that.
The profile existed as a means for covert agents to communicate in a coded language that no one would know how to find it.
So think about it.
It's kind of crazy.
If you're a spy working for a foreign government and you're in a country and you need to communicate with your handlers, you pull up, you need to receive orders, for instance.
You go to Facebook, you just browse in Facebook, you read a Facebook post.
How are they going to know that the post that you were serving on Facebook was the message?
And so you see this coded language.
But the craziest theory.
Some claimed this woman worked for Canadian intelligence, the Canadian government at some point.
And then abruptly her career ended.
And the conspiracy theory was when they burn a spy, they need to, like, if so, burning a spy is basically we're cutting you off, you're done.
If they don't want to kill you or killing you could cause an incident, a scene, or draw attention, they induce psychosis with a drug cocktail.
So they'll break into your house, pin you down, inject you.
And fry your brain.
And so she's sitting there typing out what she thinks is this is what they did to me, but all it is is incoherent babbling about nonsense.
But wouldn't that be exactly how you dispose of a spy that you could not take out?
If there was an individual that worked in Intel and they said, listen, we can't take this person out because it would cause a scene, people would find out.
So what do you do?
Induce psychosis, make them just another crazy person who can't explain anything.
And then they're grabbing Ian in their mind.
They're saying they have biological weapons they're going to unleash and it's going to be unleashed in 2020.
I'm warning you.
Ian's sitting there and hears banana, oatmeal spoon, dogs, dog saliva.
And I guess when he was working that story, he found the MKUltra and instances where, like, U.S. military service members who had clean records throughout their whole lives all of a sudden were found with the psychosis.
I believe one airman ended up sexually assaulting a young girl, even though he had no criminal history, no recollection.
And I think it's kind of maybe connected to a little bit of that the whole MKUltra and LSD.
When there's individuals, like Tim said, where you can't take out because it costs too much of a scene or there's too much connected to that story, this is kind of a way to flip that individual.
The idea is that the ice wall is a real thing, but the earth isn't flat.
The earth is actually massive, and the seven continents we know are surrounded by a giant ring of ice where the great nations of Tartaria and Atlantis use us as slave labor to mine gold.
And the reason why, as Harry Tunman said, I freed many slaves.
I would have freed many more if only they knew they were slaves.
If you want to have an effective slave population, they can't know they're slaves.
They have to think they're free.
So we are basically just chickens in a chicken coop doing manual labor and mining gold for the great nations that are immortal, that fly around and can do whatever they want whenever they want.
From what I noticed when I was stretching, it would feel like when I would go to tear a muscle because I was stretching too far, it would seep into the muscle and fill it like clay.
And I could stretch super far when I had gold in my system.
And then my pee was gold.
And I drank so much that my voice started to rust.
So, anyway, the point, the reason I bring this up is because what reminded me of it is he says after we bleach the flour, we have to add vitamins to it because all the vitamins have been stripped from the earth.
All the rare earth metals like iridium, rhodium, platinum, palladium, you can eat them because they used to be in the soil pretty, you know, and then the humans mined a lot of it out, so you don't get it.
But I don't know.
You know, the FDA hasn't like come out and been like, you gotta get your colloidal gold, but there's a lot of people that talk about metals.
And we had been asked to read ads for it on this show.
Now, I'm a huge fan of Angel Studios.
They do a lot of really great work.
Not everything they do is perfect, but that's okay.
And their members saw this film and voted to purchase it for distribution because it's Animal Farm.
For those that aren't familiar, I assume most of you are, it's the classic George Orwell novel.
That is an allegory for the Bolshevik Revolution and how communists are bad.
The story is wholly just about how communists are bad, and that's about it.
This film is an anti capitalist film that is actually pro communist, or at least I would call it like pro agenda 2030, pro WEF, the whole stakeholders, you will own nothing and be happy kind of mentality.
And what happened was when the trailer was released several months ago, it was heavily criticized by everybody, hence this article, because the trailer shows there's a new villain.
It's pro communism entirely, and it's wholly anti capitalism.
I don't want to spoil any of the movie bits, so I'll keep it for the most part to things you may have seen from the trailer.
But I will just say this The main villain is Elon Musk's mom, a corporatist, and the motivations behind the bad guys are finance, financially related.
The exploitation is not communist related, it is monetary and capitalist.
The struggles the animals face are based on monetary policy and not.
Communist political revolution.
It is entirely.
The movie starts with a critique of banking and finance and capital.
And one of the antagonists is working for the bank.
And the main villain is a corporatist who's trying to buy everything.
The pigs are effectively henchmen.
And I will just say that the ending is just bonkers insane.
It's not family friendly.
Not absolutely not.
This is not a movie for kids.
There's elements of leftist terrorism in it.
And I would argue that the message is capital structures are inherently bad and you must kill everyone to accomplish your goals of freeing the people from their oppression.
And I'm like, yeah, that's all just literally Marxist garbage.
Uh, the farmer, it was sort of like it shows you the danger of capitalism in the very beginning because the farmer has become like this monarch, and they're like, they've had enough, he's mismanaging the farm, they chase him off the farm.
So, like, okay, we get it, there are problems with capitalism.
And then the communism starts to seep in the vanguardism, and the whole thing's about the internal struggle of the farm.
There's very little external force of capital in that.
Oh, bro, but you started by saying that the farmer is a monarch, he was like the yeah, it's like the capitalist monarch, you know, the corporatist, and it's like, but that's not the beginning of the book, they kick him out right away, yes, but he's not a capitalist.
It's really amazing how they are trying to trick people.
I think the film, not necessarily the Angel Studios.
Here's my genuine thought.
On what happened.
I could be wrong.
Well, the Harmon Brothers, founders of Angel, have asked to come on and talk about this.
I said, absolutely, because we're fans.
They've done great work in the past.
I think this was just a flub.
And here's what I think happened I think that.
Hollywood produces an Animal Farm movie with the explicit intention to trick families into bringing their kids into a pro communist film and destroying the message of Animal Farm.
I believe that this production is so thick, the anti capitalism, like they're hitting you over the head with it.
It's just screaming.
With Elon Musk's mom as the villain driving a cybertruck.
I mean, dude, it's just so overt.
There's things, again, I don't want to spoil it because the movie's not out, and I wasn't asked to do a strong review of it.
I think Hollywood said, how do we make kids communist?
Well, first, we destroy the culture of America.
George Orwell was not by any means a strong capitalist, but he did criticize the Bolshevik Revolution and communism masterfully.
Let's destroy that cultural work, make a film which should supplant the movie.
I'm sorry, supplant the book, and we'll change the narrative, keeping some of the key story elements, but making it explicitly anti capital instead.
I think that Angel Studios gets word that Animal Farm is being adapted, and it's got a bunch of A list of celebrities, and they think, Anti communist story right up our alley.
A listers, let's acquire the rights.
The Angel Studios members, according to them, said that they approved it.
I think that at the head of the higher ups, I don't think they watched the movie before they acquired it.
Again, just my opinion, I'm probably wrong, but it seems to me like what really happened, and again, maybe not the case.
I don't want to say I know for sure.
When they heard that Animal Farm was going to be available, they were like, we have to have this.
So they bid on it without understanding or seeing the full film.
Once they acquired it and committed massive amounts of money to the distribution and contractually obligated, then they learned everyone's like, this is pro communism.
And then they're like, crap, what do we do?
You got a distribution contract for a big film.
You purchased it.
You're going to lose money if you don't.
And depending on how the contract is structured, you could be in breach if you don't distribute it properly because you've agreed to do that.
So I wonder if what actually happened is they know full well, and that's why they reframed it as anti cronyism.
That's what Angel Studios has been calling it.
Oh, it's anti cronyism because the capitalist structures are actually not really capitalist.
They're, you know, monopolies.
They're cronyist.
No, government never plays a role in this whatsoever.
Not one time does anything with government happen where the government teams up with corporations.
In fact, wholly, the whole thing is more so a critique of private equity structures.
I will put it like this In the book, the pigs are communist revolutionaries.
They tell everybody we're equal.
Nope.
In the movie, there's a pig who says everybody who's equal.
And this is in the book, too, by the way, so I don't consider it a spoiler.
Yeah, Snowball is the true revolutionary, and Napoleon is the power hungry.
The movie is basically Snowball says, We're all equal.
And Napoleon's like, No, we're not.
And then basically, he private equities the farm.
So, not spoiling anything, but instead of it being about a communist revolutionary where the dictator takes over to steal everything, this movie is about some people who start a private equity firm.
And that's the.
That's what the story's about.
And there's a big, shocking leftist terror attack.
The critique of the film is that the animals are working and the pigs are taking a profit and going to the mall with it.
And the animals are upset that the pigs are using the excess revenue for.
They're using the profit to enrich themselves, which I suppose the argument is well, that's what the communists do, but that's not what the film is about.
The film is literally like, the endos being like, we're doing all the work, but they're taking the profit from us.
And I'm like, oh my God.
It is explicit, explicitly.
And the ending is basically the fake, the new characters that are added to the movie that are not in the books are basically, they may as well end the film by saying, well, we own nothing, but now we'll all be happy.
That's basically the conclusion.
And I'm like, dude, Angel Studios.
Drop the ball in this one big time.
You know, and a lot of people are saying they're canceling their memberships and all that stuff.
I think that's silly.
You're going to cancel your subscription to Angel Studios because they bought a bad film.
But I don't know how you navigate out of this one.
Like, bro, you got a pro communist film that's taking a dump all over the original book.
Well, I mean, actually, I do understand it's subversion, which is something that the left loves to do.
They love to take something that is intended.
To criticize the left or something that the population of a country holds dear and then subvert it and in some way convince the people that no, actually, this thing that you loved, it's about us.
And it's something that we, it represents our values and not your own.
Just because I didn't like it and I was a Offended by doesn't mean I should take that away from a company that is offering a product to people they can choose to see or not.
It's, it's, I was not, I was not asked to reveal story elements.
I was not given a screener so that I could expose what the story is about.
And I would, I don't want to do that to Angel Studios.
If people really want to see for themselves and learn, fine.
If they reached out to me and said, Tim, here's a screener, please give a review of the story, spoilers are fine, then I would do it.
But I think it's fair to say if a character is not in the film, that is an important point to bring up because people might be going to this film expecting it to be a one for one adaptation of Animal Farm.
It is a completely different movie.
It is a completely different movie.
And the reason why I'm saying I won't spoil it is because I could.
Like, it is so different from the book.
I would have to spoil a new script unrelated to Animal Farm.
Look, the Harmon Brothers were saying, like, they've issued a bunch of statements saying it's an anti communist film.
Let me show you this, actually.
Let me show you this.
This is from Newsweek from December.
Studio responds to criticism.
Here's what Newsweek wrote The adaptation, which took 14 years to complete, looks to examine capitalism and corporate greed as opposed to Soviet era authoritarianism.
A spokesperson for Angel Studios told Newsweek, Four facts Angel is the distributor of the film, not its producer, nor with creative control.
Angel Guild members viewed the film and voted heavily to support it.
While the title is the same as the classic book, updates were made to make it relevant to a broad, value centric, family friendly audience.
This is an anti communism film, and the Angel Guild will ensure that it stands by the principles of our members.
It is, I would not, it's not for kids, man.
Guys, like, a family friendly film is Space Jam, where the stakes are you will be trapped in a video game forever unless you win a game of basketball.
There's a famous story about a painting from a revolution where it goes something like I'm probably bastardizing this story.
Historians probably know better, but it goes something like there was a painting made of a bunch of redcoats in formation firing on a bunch of rebel farmers during the Revolutionary War who were dropping their guns and fleeing.
And so this painting was of an actual battle that occurred.
Well, someone asked to recommission the painting and said, I would like one for myself of this battle.
And so the next version shows some of the militiamen, the Minutemen, fighting back.
And then years later, someone says, I would like my own version of this.
Well, the new one shows the Minutemen breaking ranks but violently fighting back as the Redcoats advance.
Someone asked for another commission.
Now it shows the redcoats are a little frazzled and some are being shot.
Long story short, after several iterations, it completely flipped to a small handful of valiant minute men firing on frantic and fleeing redcoats, despite it never happening.
Because every time it was made, the person who got a commission of this great battle wanted it showing the heroism of the Americans.
So we've made this movie where we're like, Mel Gibson is a dad who doesn't want to go to war and votes against it.
This is what I love, right?
We always talk about the guy at the bar.
And there's some dude acting a fool, and he says, Listen, man, I don't want to be involved.
And the guy goes, What are you, pussy?
And then, like, pours a beer on him, and then gets his ass kicked by the guy who wasn't asking for trouble.
I've heard people complain that, I mean, someone in the chat just said this that Angel Studios is a Trojan horse because a lot of, again, this is a comment.
They said a lot of their films are actually anti conservative values.
So these videos keep going viral showing America in like the 50s and 60s.
I mean, like, everybody's white.
But it's showing all of the best stuff.
And I do think it's silly because bad stuff happened all the time, you know, like.
At this point, but these people are obviously romanticizing the nicer areas and things like that.
But uh, I forgot, I've we pulled this up, and I guess I wanted to just talk about this because you were uh, Ian was just before the segment talking about They Shall Never Grow Old, I think it's called, right?
And um, the reason why I thought it'd be good to bring up this video that we had pulled up and like talk about all these nostalgia videos uh, the what is it called, the Christmas Truce World War One?
I mean, white people, but it's only a certain segment of white people, too.
But I mean, even like you could hear Muhammad Ali making these arguments in the 60s, where he's like, I don't have a problem with white people, but I'd rather be around people like me.
The people that are voting based or like saying, yo, you're my race, therefore innocent, are they like shocked into behaving like just kind of animalistic?
I just left Minneapolis, bro, and I covered the rights there for like two weeks.
So I was surrounded by white liberals all over Minneapolis.
And one thing that I like to do as a reporter is I just like to act like an MPC and just talk to people because I want to know exactly how they feel and what's motivating them.
And when I was talking to the white liberals in Minneapolis, like they do view when ICE does an arrest or an apprehension, like they view that as, oh, a Nazi official is kidnapping.
My Somali brother.
This is like a white person telling me that.
And they do feel like they have this moral standing to have to get out there and interfere in operations or anything like that because they feel like they're standing up for their Somali brother or sister.
Then when you go interview a Somalian, they're not even protesting.
What Ian's basically saying is that there are two groups, and they crashed, and one guy says he got chocolate on my peanut butter, and the other guy says he got peanut butter on my chocolate, but in reality, they both just made a delicious treat.
So I like heavy cream for my coffee, just a little boop, you know.
But all of the heavy cream brands put gum in it to thicken it up.
I don't want that.
I just want regular old cream.
And they put it in there because they think people like the texture of a thick cream better than runny cream, I guess.
At Mom's Organic Shop, they've got real heavy cream.
Ingredients, cream.
And they're in, like, they're from a farm nearby or something.
All I need.
But that's really far from us.
So, if we go to, like, a regular grocery store, like a food line, every single cream they have has Gellin gum in it.
And there are some hypotheses that the increase of gum in our products for thickening agents has resulted in this massive spike in colon cancer in millennials.
Of all the conspiracy theories people have claimed about how we never went to the moon, I just don't believe any of them until today because this new moon mission can't possibly be real.
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All right, let's see.
Mitho says, having worked for the government, I can attest it is far too incompetent to have kept this secret for almost 60 years.
Plus, you would have had to have gotten the Soviets to play along.
And that's the greatest argument, in my opinion.
The Soviets would absolutely be coming out being like, they lied and we can prove it.
In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the anti American commentary claiming the moon stuff is fake is literally foreign influence to destroy Americanism.
Only the truth that says Tim is a coward when he actually has the opportunity to do what is right.
He bends the knee.
Spoil the movie.
Angel Studios deserves it.
First and foremost, if I was a coward, I'd take the money and get paid and have thousands of dollars to buy pizza with and just lie to you and tell you the movie was good.
Instead, I did probably the stupidest thing any host could do when they're in the business of running ads.
I attacked, I criticized heavily the advertiser for trying to advertise with us.
The end result could be companies saying, we don't want to advertise on Tim Pool's show because if it turns out he hates the product, He's going to attack us.
If you sold like a skin cream, you might be like, what if Tim Poole thinks the chemicals in it are bad?
So instead of doing an ad, he attacks us.
Let's just stay away from him.
So it was dangerous as a company.
And I had people asking me, like, why don't you just call them instead of making a public statement?
And I said, because people are already running ads for this.
There are conservatives doing ads for a pro communism film right now that is spitting in the face of one of the few anti communist legacy pieces of culture that we have.
And I've talked to people and they're telling me, well, I don't know.
They bought ads and I just promoted the film.
And I'm like, yeah, well, you should have watched it.
As soon as they said, oh, they want you to do ads for Animal Farm, I was like, what?
No.
We saw the trailer for that.
And they're like, well, here's what they sent.
You can watch the movie.
And I was like, okay.
And then I read it.
I was like, well, fair point.
I didn't actually watch the movie, just the trailer.
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Send this to a friend who still thinks bread is just flour and water, and let me know would you eat this crap?
I don't want to spoil too much, but I will say a little bit more about the film.
I mentioned the motivations are banking and finance.
So, what I will say is that they don't revolt against the farmer, the farmer gets foreclosed on, and the animals have to make money to pay the bank off.
And so, I don't want to say like a heavy spoiler because this is part of the trailer.
If you watch the trailer and analyze it, the first opening scene shows the Pilkington and the woman being like, I'm going to make some new friends.
And like, so I think it's important to bring up for people that want to see an adaptation of Animal Farm.
That's not the case.
They turned one of the characters in the book into a banker.
And the principal motivation of everything is that they need to make money.
When they start making money, the pigs start taking the profit for themselves, and the animals are like, Why are they taking the profit from our labor?
And then the pigs, this is an allegory, right?
I'm not going to tell you main spoilers again, but effectively, instead of a communist revolution, the pigs form a private equity firm, which they cut a deal with Elon Musk's mom on.
And the solution to the problem is a terror attack that the good guys foment to say that you will own nothing and you'll be happy.
So.
You know, holy shit, people want to ask more questions about it, but yeah, I mean, it's overtly anti-anti-anti-capitalists.
The book, I should say, shows flaws in capitalism without being anti-capitalism because it shows a farmer who's very wealthy, who has a farm, whether through inheritance or what.
If you replace Napoleon with Stalin and you squealer with Trotsky and Old Major with Marx, he was literally saying these fucking pigs, Stalin, Lenin, and Marx, they are who I am writing about.
Jones was representing the royalty, the government, not capitalism.
Well, the first thing you said was that I always take the extreme, I think it was a bit of a hyperbole, but I do sometimes go the opposite direction to poke holes in my own beliefs.
If I come across as believing insane shit, I just can't stop and slow down to show my work every step of the way.
So people get confused.
They're like, why is he saying that?
Like, I think three steps ahead and then I'll just say it.
And they'll be like, how did you get there?
Why are you saying that?
And then in a show like this, we don't always have time to go back and walk through my point by point to get there.
Sometimes that's usually the case.
Tim and I mean, I don't know.
I don't want to speak too much for Tim, but like my view of the future aligns heavily with Tim's when it comes to like property rights, free speech.
I care more about having the discussion.
And enabling the discussion than about being right.
Yeah, we just, there have been, everybody was just kind of curious in the Discord, wondering if it was just an act to help critical thinking, kind of playing devil's advocate, or if this was really the real you.
I will say, in the brief time I've met you and known you, you have asked questions out of curiosity of the thought process, which I think are questions that you don't necessarily believe.
People also assume that, like, That people make the assumption that, like, I don't like Ian, and I think he's like, he's super fun.
Yeah, so and like, he's got a great heart, but it's super fun to like be here.
And like, a lot of times, he'll be he'll start going on something, and I'll just be like, Well, why do you think that, you know, and like try and figure out what his thought process is, or I'll be like, You know, this too, and and and what is that, you know, but it's it's so much fun, but it's also fun to have a conversation with people that have a different viewpoint to you and understanding it because so many people can't do it anymore.
So, my question is for the entire panel if you want to chime in.
It's how can I reconcile the Iran stuff to family that won't budge on any nuance whatsoever?
Because I am like very non interventionist at the core, but I understand nuance with the position.
And on top of that, there's like people that constantly say, oh, you're falling for propaganda, but I just want to know like what you guys would say to that.
I'm just saying, like, I want to hear both sides of it, why it might be good, why it might be bad.
Because, like I said, I'm non interventionist, but I'm not going to sit here and say, okay, now that we're in this war, like, I'm still just going to be like, no, the U.S. is bad.
We have to not support the U.S. Like, I want to hear the side to say that and give it to them when they're like steel manning it, saying, no, we don't want to, like, we don't want to take part in this, like, whether it's the U.S. or not.
No, I was saying I wish it was that simple, like for my case, by saying, like, I totally am with you and I'm for you on this position, but I also see this, but it's just not like that.
It's like they're anti intervention, but they're saying kind of like this is entirely the U.S.'s fault and we shouldn't have any support behind the U.S. Ask them what they mean and have them elaborate in detail.
You know, something I'll do is I'll start with the.
Given that the liberal economic order is the least worst global order humanity's ever seen, and we need to preserve it because of that.
Update it, yeah, but that means that Americans have to control the Suez Canal.
That means that this liberal order of money military has to control the sea routes.
And that's what the Iranian threat has been contention over the sea routes.
It's not like I want it to happen, it has to happen for the betterment of the species at this point, if that's a truth, that the liberal economic order is the least worst system.
Unless you have a better system, That you can diagram and implement, which I've yet to see.
So my question for the panel is last week, Tim had touched on a few of his segments on the idea that there's a coordinated effort, or there seems to be a coordinated effort of bots to like ostracize or push out anti-establishment voices.
I'd actually seen one of them, one of the bot posts sort of reposted or shared by a friend of mine.
And then I had seen another one.
That it was like the exact same post, but with a different show.
So, like, one was like Tim Cass, the other one was like Megyn Kelly, or something like that.
But my question is do you think that that sort of like realignment, do you think that that is pushing your moderates, your disaffected liberals, your independents, your libertarians away from the Trump administration?
You know, I'd like to believe it's a Pied Piper trap to scrap up all the weirdos and then, you know, Put them in their own little world or whatever, but I can't figure out what the hell's going on.
I mean, the military industrial complex, I mean, as was warned by Eisenhower, is going to have influence.
And are going to push things in certain directions.
And while I certainly, I think largely in line with Tim's opinion that we didn't want this war to happen, maybe there could have been another way to solve the problem, but here we are.
And it's like, do we just abandon the greatness of America and the ideals that America stands for and call it bad and sort of reject it?
Or do we go, okay, well, we want this to end well.
Let's see if we can get a win out of this.
And yeah, like, you know, that's otherwise it's just nihilism.
I have like a real, real mixed feelings, dude, because part of it is like the Israeli government started this conflict and then the Americans jumped in.
And like, but if they were going to get a nuclear intercontinental ballistic missile, like, appeasement doesn't work.
And, but like sending in ground troops and blowing up power stations and bridges doesn't work.
That's not going to get the government to quit.
They want it, they want to be victimized so that their population will rise up against the Americans.
And I don't know what else to do.
I don't think that harder, faster is always the best way forward.
But then, you know, Tim mentioning that he got walked down a hallway of magic tricks.
I feel like that is fairly disingenuous because, like, on the Joe Rogan podcast just this last week, Bob Lazar did another interview.
I think it's the second or third time on there.
And I learned that he worked there for about six months before they ended up firing him.
And so he was going to work every single day there.
It's not like he was just, you know, Shown this hallway once, and once you get through the haunted house, then you're left with, oh my God, what was that?
And I'm not talking about the one that Bob Lazar was mentioning, but like the Roswell crash, were they picking up scraps from outside of our solar system?
Or do you have any thoughts on if, just in general, you think the United States somewhere has a UFO crash?
They told him there's a fake element in here that you're never going to see or touch.
It's the 115th element we haven't even discovered yet.
It came from a faraway galaxy.
That's the story they told him.
Turned out they were probably using like magnesium or some metal that, like a nanomaterial that operates differently at the nanomolecular scale or nanoscale than at the classical scale.
But they're not going to tell him.
So, because they got him compartmentalized and working, but they will feed him bullshit.
So, if he goes rogue, he'll tell the world there's a fake alien psyop.
I could also say, like, I went to a research lab and they were actually doing experimentation on elements that existed beyond our periodic table.
A whole new subset of stable elements that are substantially heavier.
I couldn't even describe.
And then people go, whoa.
And then, of course, because this is a widely held scientific belief that this does exist, in five years, when they announce they've discovered a heavier stable element, then I'll be like, told you.
If we find out that it has the same properties or could achieve similar physics to what Bob was stating the 115 that he was working with could do, would that legitimize his story in your eyes?
Freakishly coincidental, though, because it would perk my claiming that there will be the discovery of an element when you're going in sequential order and then finding an element that has certain properties.
Like, like I said, I could make up a number right now, and then if they discovered, they'd be like, Wow, yes, like if it was two different things, I could understand that hey, this is just the next one that we found, so we're going to give it 115, even though it's not the same thing that Bob was talking about.
But if they have the same properties and can be manipulated in the same way that Bob was saying that they could be.
And I'll also say that I hope that you guys, I don't know, next time we bring up Bob, let's try and at least stick to the story because some of the things that you guys were saying were completely inaccurate and they rubbed me the wrong way.
But I appreciate you guys talking about aliens and all the weird shit.