Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - THEY ARE REAL, Aliens Exist Says Congressman, Artemis II MAKES IT Around The Moon | Timcast IRL
Aired: 2026-04-06
Duration: 02:48:30


=== Denying The Moon Landing (03:32) ===

[00:02:41]  The Artemis 2 mission has made it from the dark side of the moon.
[00:02:45]  The blackout is over and they will begin transmitting data.
[00:02:48]  And still, people are denying that we've gone to the moon.
[00:02:53]  They don't believe it.
[00:02:54]  They think that this is a big hoax campaign, that NASA isn't real, it's demonic, and that there's like this gondola that came out of the launch site.
[00:03:02]  They say that's where the astronauts escaped to, and they've been staging this whole thing.
[00:03:07]  None of it is real.
[00:03:09]  Well, I guess you choose what you want to believe, according to all of the reporting.
[00:03:13]  They made it out and they're going to have new images.
[00:03:15]  And there are, in fact, indications of specific natural resources which we may begin to moon mine when we build a mine on the moon.
[00:03:23]  I'm excited for that.
[00:03:24]  In the meantime, Tim Burchett followed up on the statement he made last week when he said, If the American people learned about these briefings on aliens, the nation would become unglued.
[00:03:32]  And he told TMZ, They're real.
[00:03:35]  He has been briefed.
[00:03:36]  They came to him and said, They're real, that aliens and alien technology have been in contact with humans.
[00:03:41]  And I certainly hope it's not the way Matt Gaetz explained it, where he said, Women were being kidnapped to be forced to carry the babies of aliens to create alien human hybrids.
[00:03:53]  Okay, this is the news, I guess.
[00:03:55]  The big trending stories.
[00:03:57]  Donald Trump also pulled off a historic rescue mission involving what is it, like hundreds of aircraft, like 100 plus aircraft, to rescue one guy who climbed up 7,000 feet while bleeding and activating his beacon.
[00:04:10]  They came in and they got him.
[00:04:12]  It was amazing.
[00:04:12]  Apparently, the CIA was doing these decoy missions to distract the Iranian government so we could get in, get this guy, and get out.
[00:04:20]  It's amazing stuff.
[00:04:21]  At the same time, I'm just, it's a weird place in the podcast space these days.
[00:04:26]  The podcasts that tend to do the best right now are the ones that are rooting against the United States.
[00:04:30]  And by all means, I'm not saying every single one of these top podcasts critical of the war in Iran is rooting against us, but some of them literally are.
[00:04:37]  And they're telling people to watch the Iranian media for truth, which is just crazy.
[00:04:42]  But this is where we're headed.
[00:04:44]  Whatever that means, any way you cut it, there is a campaign against the United States to diminish it, whether Trump succeeds here or not.
[00:04:52]  So, my friends, we're going to talk about that and a whole lot more.
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=== Energy Costs For Moon Bases (16:09) ===

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[00:06:36]  I know I said tap, but I'm going to say smash it.
[00:06:38]  But joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more, we've got a couple of great guests.
[00:06:41]  We've got Avery Day.
[00:06:42]  Hello.
[00:06:43]  Thank you for having me.
[00:06:44]  Who are you?
[00:06:44]  What do you do?
[00:06:46]  Who am I?
[00:06:47]  I post conservative content.
[00:06:49]  I was living in England for the past three years, moved back when Trump was elected, and I started posting because I felt like people didn't know what was happening in Europe.
[00:06:59]  And that has spiraled.
[00:07:01]  So now I share my opinion online.
[00:07:04]  I talk crap on the internet about people.
[00:07:07]  All right.
[00:07:07]  Talking crap on the internet seems to be a popular thing these days.
[00:07:10]  And Jorge's back.
[00:07:11]  Yeah, it's good to be back.
[00:07:12]  Independent journalist focusing on illegal immigration, cartels, all the crazy stuff.
[00:07:18]  Just left LA about a week ago where no keens got a little wild.
[00:07:22]  So we were there.
[00:07:22]  And just also finished a new report on the Iranian sleeper cells out of Mexico and the smuggling connected with the Mexican cartels.
[00:07:31]  But yeah, thanks, Tim.
[00:07:32]  Good to be back.
[00:07:32]  Right on.
[00:07:33]  Then we got Ian hanging out.
[00:07:35]  We got Carter pressing buttons.
[00:07:36]  What's up?
[00:07:37]  And of course, Phil is here.
[00:07:38]  Hello, everybody.
[00:07:39]  Let's jump into the story.
[00:07:40]  We got breaking news.
[00:07:41]  It's history, ladies and gentlemen.
[00:07:43]  Record breakers.
[00:07:44]  Artemis 2 has emerged from blackout and radios Houston after loss of communications while spacecraft vanished behind the moon.
[00:07:52]  So the moon's apparently real.
[00:07:54]  I can't believe it.
[00:07:55]  Shane Cashman, most affected.
[00:07:57]  Yeah.
[00:07:58]  We, you know, I came the other day and I saw him and he was crying.
[00:08:02]  I said, Shane, what's wrong?
[00:08:03]  And he was like, the moon's real.
[00:08:05]  And I said, I know.
[00:08:06]  And he said, no, you don't understand.
[00:08:07]  The moon is real.
[00:08:08]  And I said, Jane, I know.
[00:08:11]  Did he get into how bad it hurts?
[00:08:13]  He started smashing things.
[00:08:14]  He flipped the table over.
[00:08:15]  He was a baddie and it hurt so bad.
[00:08:17]  I was like, I know.
[00:08:18]  Actually, I'm pretty sure.
[00:08:19]  All kidding aside, Shane, we love you.
[00:08:22]  There are people who still don't believe that we've ever gone to the moon.
[00:08:25]  They think the whole thing is still fake, even with this moon mission being a tremendous victory for the American people.
[00:08:33]  At least, at least give us this.
[00:08:35]  If they are faking this right now, at least give America credit for doing the best fakes, right?
[00:08:41]  Let's just celebrate the American deepest fakes, the deepest of deep fakes.
[00:08:46]  Indeed.
[00:08:48]  In all seriousness, the plan is they went around the moon charting it, basically looking for resources because we are going to establish moon mining.
[00:08:57]  Yeah.
[00:08:57]  I'm so glad I made a video about mining the moon in like 2007.
[00:09:02]  I see things like 15 years before they happen sometimes, and people are like, all right, bro, slow down, get a job.
[00:09:07]  I'm like, it's got to happen.
[00:09:09]  But like we were talking earlier, you don't want to overmine the moon.
[00:09:11]  So we got to be.
[00:09:12]  Careful, and you don't want to overmine.
[00:09:14]  Well, yeah, no, you don't.
[00:09:15]  Hold on, I want to.
[00:09:16]  What if we mined everything from the moon and brought it to Earth?
[00:09:18]  Would that not change the mass of the Earth?
[00:09:20]  Oh, could ruin the tides.
[00:09:22]  Yeah, the moon is a big part of the tide.
[00:09:24]  I mean, that's true too, but I mean, like, imagine 100 years from now we've overmined the moon, and there's very, like, we've just ripped out, let's say, 3%, and it shifts the moon's weight and Earth's mass increases by 0.3% of moon mass.
[00:09:41]  So we have to take dirt to the moon and replace what the rocks we take.
[00:09:45]  That's true.
[00:09:45]  There you go.
[00:09:46]  So let's, we need large masses of matter to replace what we're taking.
[00:09:54]  Maybe ice.
[00:09:55]  Or Democrats.
[00:09:56]  I was just going to say leftists.
[00:09:58]  Send the commies to the moon.
[00:09:59]  All the things you want.
[00:10:00]  Send some tortas, bro.
[00:10:01]  Send the tortas to the moon, bro.
[00:10:03]  Wait, what?
[00:10:04]  No, we want those.
[00:10:06]  Tortas?
[00:10:07]  A fat Mexican girl, you want one, Tim?
[00:10:08]  Oh, I thought those are sandwiches, bro.
[00:10:10]  I thought those are tortas, bro.
[00:10:11]  Yeah, torta.
[00:10:12]  You go to a Mexican restaurant.
[00:10:13]  That, too, yeah.
[00:10:14]  You see here, you know, language barriers.
[00:10:16]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:10:16]  Bro, I love it.
[00:10:17]  Have you ever had a torta at a nice Mexican restaurant?
[00:10:19]  Oh, yeah, I'm from LA.
[00:10:20]  He's had a different kind of torta too, apparently.
[00:10:22]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:10:22]  We get some of the tortas of the moon too, bro.
[00:10:24]  I mean, hey, Alex Stein, most effective.
[00:10:26]  Yeah.
[00:10:26]  There you go.
[00:10:26]  That's where Alex Stein.
[00:10:29]  I listen to a lot of podcasts with futurists and stuff, and there's this one dude who's like, totally, he's like, the moon had it coming.
[00:10:36]  We are going to totally disassemble the moon, and we're going to strip mine it and turn it into a Dyson sphere, which is basically a means to collect a significant portion of the sun's energy.
[00:10:48]  Look, I'm not saying that it's a good idea because I do think that the fact that it would affect the tides is probably something that we actually have to think about.
[00:10:56]  But that kind of big idea is the stuff that people are actually starting to talk about seriously now.
[00:11:03]  Like the idea of a million satellites in space that are part of Elon Musk's data center.
[00:11:10]  He's literally talking about putting, eventually, a million satellites in space.
[00:11:15]  It scales up so exponentially because drone swarm construction will be, size won't matter when you're building things, really.
[00:11:22]  Just because gravity is not an issue, height doesn't exist in space.
[00:11:25]  So you'll have a trillion drones all building this machine at once.
[00:11:28]  There's a lot of, there's a lot of.
[00:11:29]  Problems that have to be solved before you can actually start doing this stuff.
[00:11:32]  But look, if there's anyone that I think has the capacity to do that, it's probably someone like Elon Musk.
[00:11:39]  So, in keeping things in line with our culture war theme on this show, liberals are apparently mad that we're going to make a moon mine.
[00:11:46]  You could have stopped with liberals apparently mad.
[00:11:48]  So, first things first, I made a video talking about how we went back to the moon.
[00:11:52]  I got absolutely dragged.
[00:11:53]  Apparently, my entire generation, my friends, basically everyone that I interact with socially, Thinks that I'm the dumbest person alive for thinking that we went to the moon, which is terrifying in and of itself.
[00:12:07]  Yes.
[00:12:07]  And then terrifying because I think it's an op.
[00:12:10]  The whole thing's an op.
[00:12:11]  The fake moon stuff?
[00:12:12]  Yeah.
[00:12:13]  So here's my thought like, how do these people think that Starlink works?
[00:12:18]  It's an honest question.
[00:12:19]  Like, I point my disc at the sky and the good lord above the firmament beams down knowledge to my receptacle.
[00:12:27]  It's strong opinions with a lack of understanding of anything and how it works.
[00:12:32]  You know, I'm a moon landing believer and I'll tell you why.
[00:12:35]  I actually don't think it's all that complicated.
[00:12:38]  Like, obviously, building a rocket is advanced science.
[00:12:40]  It's rocket science, literally.
[00:12:42]  I'm just saying, like, fundamentally, a bunch of dudes in a room with a chalkboard drafted up the trajectory of being like, we're going to blast them up on a rocket and point them straight at the moon.
[00:12:52]  And they're like, $300 billion.
[00:12:54]  Yeah.
[00:12:55]  So a lot of money and resources that we're not going to do to land on the moon.
[00:12:58]  And a lot of motivation.
[00:12:59]  Like, we were talking about this before the show.
[00:13:01]  Like, the reason the U.S. was so focused on the space program was because it was a surrogate for building.
[00:13:09]  For achieving the ability to send a ballistic missile to the other side of the planet.
[00:13:13]  It was a surrogate, it was Cold War, basically part of the Cold War.
[00:13:18]  The reason they wanted to be able to shoot rockets to the moon is if you can get a rocket to the moon, you can definitely get a rocket to Moscow.
[00:13:24]  And not just that, the great fear that the US was trying to instill in other countries, aside from the fact, hey, we can launch a rocket into space and then at you, was that we could have missiles on the moon.
[00:13:34]  Yeah.
[00:13:34]  The idea was that if we went to the moon and kept going there, what could we have there and could we launch attacks from.
[00:13:40]  From the moon, because lunar gravity is not particularly strong.
[00:13:44]  That being said, I have to admit something, and that is most businesses and even governments operate on the cost benefit analysis model that's standard.
[00:13:55]  And I got to tell you, if Ian came to me and said, we should prove how great of a podcast we are by climbing the Mount Everest and doing the show there with Starlink, and it would be amazing, I'd be like, that's a really great idea.
[00:14:09]  It would be a lot cheaper if we just made a fake Mount Everest set and didn't actually do it, and we'd accomplish the same thing.
[00:14:16]  So I do understand why people believe there was a motivation not to go to the moon.
[00:14:19]  But I will add this the functional reason, as Phil pointed out, why I think we probably did was the US is sitting in a room, and here's what I think really happened they said, hey, We want to blow up Moscow.
[00:14:31]  How do we do it?
[00:14:31]  Well, we've got a bunch of rockets, but they're easily detected.
[00:14:34]  We need a rocket that can come straight down so they can't intercept it.
[00:14:38]  Well, how do we do it?
[00:14:39]  We need a big rocket.
[00:14:40]  It's going to have to go pretty dang far.
[00:14:42]  Okay.
[00:14:43]  How do we build and test for this?
[00:14:45]  You think the American people are going to tolerate you building a world ending 100 megaton vertical drop bomb onto Moscow?
[00:14:53]  You're going to request this budget, and people are going to be standing off in Florida looking at this thing you're building and saying, Why are you doing this?
[00:15:00]  And they're like, Fair point.
[00:15:02]  So what do we tell them?
[00:15:02]  Eh, we're going to the moon.
[00:15:06]  We do some moon missions, and that'll be the PR play so that we can build intercontinental, nay, planetary ballistic missiles.
[00:15:15]  It wouldn't surprise me if we use the moon as a cover for a weapons development program.
[00:15:19]  The Nazis did it with their automobile industry in the 30s.
[00:15:22]  Everyone thought they had revitalized their economy by building cars, but they were building tank engines.
[00:15:26]  That's essentially what the space program was.
[00:15:28]  That's what we're saying.
[00:15:29]  It's a cover for.
[00:15:31]  But boy, has it backfired because now you have an entire generation that's convinced we did not go to the moon because there's like.
[00:15:36]  This whole operation against us and the moon landing is rooting against the United States of America.
[00:15:42]  That's what people understand.
[00:15:44]  You're 100% right.
[00:15:45]  That's in vogue right now.
[00:15:46]  But the thing is, like, those, the people that are so distrusting of the government, like, there's a reason for that.
[00:15:53]  And a lot of it, I think, is because of COVID, personally.
[00:15:56]  I think that the COVID narrative that turned out to not be true really did, you know, did a whole one shot on a lot of people.
[00:16:03]  It ruined a lot of people's youth because if you're 16, 17 years old and you have to be locked in your house for two years, And you miss all the things that normal 16, 17, 18 year olds miss or do, and then come to find out it was for no reason, you feel like you got duped.
[00:16:20]  You feel like you can't trust anyone.
[00:16:22]  And so I completely understand why they're so skeptical and so like.
[00:16:26]  And then you toss on the fact that, to be honest with you, the government has lied to us a lot.
[00:16:30]  The Gulf of Tonkin was.
[00:16:32]  A lot.
[00:16:32]  Yeah, a lot.
[00:16:33]  All the time.
[00:16:34]  I mean, the government does.
[00:16:36]  You know, so I understand why they're so suspicious and so skeptical.
[00:16:41]  So, my point largely is again, if documents were uncovered that showed we never actually went to the moon, that was cover for spending $300 billion to make planetary stratospheric nuclear strikes on our enemies.
[00:16:54]  And we wanted them to know we could do it.
[00:16:57]  Because what the American people don't get for the most part on average, you talk to someone about the moon missions, they go, yeah, it was really cool, went to the moon.
[00:17:04]  What do you think the Russians were thinking when they saw this footage?
[00:17:08]  The first thing they said was, BLET.
[00:17:10]  Yeah.
[00:17:11]  What are the capabilities that they could launch one of these things?
[00:17:14]  Straight up in outer space and then come straight down onto Moscow.
[00:17:17]  And they're like, yeah, they could.
[00:17:19]  They have built a missile that can go to the moon and back.
[00:17:22]  So, that being said, if documents came out saying we never actually went and there was a soundstage for the purpose of a cover so we could build rockets to make nuclear bombs that come straight down, I'd be like, oh, that's entirely plausible.
[00:17:35]  However, I actually think if we can make rockets that can do that, there's not a firmament that's going to stop us from actually going to the moon.
[00:17:43]  And I do believe the moon missions.
[00:17:45]  There is a function for this.
[00:17:46]  Was it viable to plant weapons on the moon that could be used to launch strikes?
[00:17:51]  In the event US nuclear capabilities are destroyed, what if we had missile silos or a moon base or weapons that could be launched from the moon?
[00:17:59]  I think the real purpose of the moon landings, to be honest, my conspiracy theory is when they launched the return, what was it, the lander, it launched out.
[00:18:08]  They were testing whether or not they could deploy a weapon from the moon without needing a base.
[00:18:13]  You could deposit a weapon that lands on the moon and relaunch it at a later date with minimal energy, and it would just fly straight towards the Earth.
[00:18:23]  Are you guys familiar with rods from God?
[00:18:25]  Yep.
[00:18:26]  Yeah.
[00:18:26]  This is a theoretical weapon where we launch gigantic tungsten rods into orbit that we can then turn and drop using gravity.
[00:18:34]  That would have the power of what is it like?
[00:18:37]  10 orders of magnitude greater than your average bomb.
[00:18:39]  Yeah, that was.
[00:18:39]  It was theorized, but they found that it doesn't actually have as much.
[00:18:43]  It doesn't have as much stored kinetic energy as they thought.
[00:18:45]  Oh, that's not my understanding.
[00:18:46]  Was that what they said?
[00:18:47]  Because my understanding was that the amount of energy to get a gigantic tungsten rod into orbit was tremendous and to maintain its orbit was insane.
[00:18:56]  So they ultimately were like, it's just too much energy to hold in this pattern.
[00:19:01]  But if you landed something on the moon, you don't need that much energy to kick it off the moon.
[00:19:05]  So I'll just put it like this I don't understand why, like, just honestly, when you think about it, we have rockets, we have ICBMs.
[00:19:13]  I guess some people don't believe those exist either.
[00:19:15]  I don't think it's that difficult to just point it at the moon.
[00:19:17]  Like, they don't literally point at the moon.
[00:19:20]  They lead the target.
[00:19:20]  They go like this.
[00:19:21]  And the moon comes around.
[00:19:22]  They looped around and they're coming back.
[00:19:24]  Uh, I think it was largely weapons based, and we cheer it on as like, yes, it's just because we're doing great things.
[00:19:31]  Yeah, they're investing money into weapons technology and the like.
[00:19:35]  I'm not so sure about now.
[00:19:36]  I think that in the past, yeah, it was.
[00:19:38]  This particular kind of iteration of the space program, I think that the Trump administration really does want to see America do inspirational things again.
[00:19:48]  Whether it's a good thing or not is up for debate.
[00:19:51]  I will answer one easy question, too.
[00:19:53]  And the people go, if we went to the moon hockey, we've never gone back.
[00:19:55]  And it's just like, because we already invented the technology.
[00:19:59]  Weapons from the sky.
[00:20:00]  Like, we developed these weapons, tested them, perfected them to a great degree.
[00:20:05]  We don't need to make any more.
[00:20:06]  This was never about just going to the moon for the sake of going to the moon.
[00:20:09]  Yeah, now it's about building a moon base.
[00:20:11]  Now it's about building a moon base to mine rare earth minerals.
[00:20:15]  And then talking about launching it back, you can create a rail system where we can mine these minerals.
[00:20:21]  We can launch it back.
[00:20:23]  We could use probably moon rock so it doesn't explode in our atmosphere.
[00:20:27]  And then we're Completely energy dependent.
[00:20:30]  And if we get there before China, because China's going to get there, they're projected to get there about 2030.
[00:20:35]  And Artemis 4 is going to be, what did we say, 2028 is estimated.
[00:20:40]  And so we're quite literally, so China said that they're going to land 2030.
[00:20:44]  And their program is, they're looking to land 2030.
[00:20:47]  So we are actually in a race, in the AI race with China, we are now in a race to the moon because if they can do this and create this energy monopoly, it's whoever gets there first.
[00:20:56]  SpaceX is also looking to get into.
[00:20:59]  Well, they want the moon base also as a staging for Mars missions.
[00:21:03]  I will just add one thing.
[00:21:04]  It's like a fueling station.
[00:21:06]  I think they're going to build a slingshot on the moon.
[00:21:08]  Mass driver, they call it.
[00:21:10]  What is it?
[00:21:10]  They call it a mass driver.
[00:21:11]  That's what you must call it.
[00:21:12]  That's what you must call it.
[00:21:14]  It's like a, it's this gigantic arc shaped structure.
[00:21:18]  And inside of it, they have basically like a hammer that spins around super fast and then launches the object out of a tube using, you know, centripetal force.
[00:21:30]  And the thing about with the moon, you don't need that much energy to escape.
[00:21:35]  Lunar gravity.
[00:21:36]  So, and because with Earth's gravity being stronger, it'll drift straight towards the Earth, towards the target.
[00:21:41]  So, we could be launching materials back relatively easily.
[00:21:45]  So, we have to deploy resources to the moon for construction and for a moon base.
[00:21:51]  We're going to have to have vehicles for return missions for humans, of course, but for materials, they're going to launch them like on a slingshot.
[00:21:57]  You could have that spin launch thing where you fire off non organics through an accelerating magnetic.
[00:22:07]  Slingshot that you would need it, like a rail.
[00:22:09]  You would not need it, but you might be able to use it to speed up transit time.
[00:22:12]  So you just wait till it gets right to, just like you said, lead the target, and then you launch it through this tube.
[00:22:17]  These are things that send it like 10 times faster or 100 times faster.
[00:22:22]  And then you could catch it in a series of tubes.

=== Power Plants And Propaganda (15:51) ===

[00:22:23]  They wouldn't need that, though.
[00:22:24]  That would consume a lot of energy.
[00:22:25]  They wouldn't need it.
[00:22:27]  Earth has gravity.
[00:22:27]  It's just going to pull the object in.
[00:22:30]  It would just take longer, but you wouldn't.
[00:22:32]  Who cares?
[00:22:32]  We're sending rocks from the moon.
[00:22:33]  I don't think we're going to be like, it's got to be here by tomorrow.
[00:22:36]  Avery, you were saying that you pad the materials with moon rock and you use that.
[00:22:40]  15 inches of moon rock.
[00:22:41]  15 inches.
[00:22:42]  So when it enters Earth's orbit, the moon rock will heat up and blow apart and the product will be okay.
[00:22:46]  Yeah.
[00:22:46]  Let's.
[00:22:47]  I want to jump.
[00:22:48]  We were getting into a little bit.
[00:22:49]  I want to talk about aliens, but I do want to talk about this a little bit more because I think it's important.
[00:22:53]  Candace Owens calls for extreme measure against mad King Trump.
[00:22:58]  Indeed.
[00:22:59]  She said, This is a satanic administration.
[00:23:01]  We all realize that satanic Zionists occupy the White House and Congress needs to move to have the mad king Trump removed.
[00:23:08]  All of our lives may depend upon other countries realizing that Trump is deeply unwell and surrounded by religious fanatics who have convinced him that he's a messiah.
[00:23:15]  We are in uncharted territory.
[00:23:16]  Leaders worldwide need to act accordingly.
[00:23:18]  I'm going to say this our top podcasts are anti America for the most part.
[00:23:21]  Screw it, Mark.
[00:23:22]  Very largely.
[00:23:23]  Candace is absolutely now, she's crossed the line.
[00:23:28]  Trump is the mad king who must be removed by all.
[00:23:30]  Other countries?
[00:23:32]  Okay, fair point.
[00:23:33]  She didn't say that explicitly.
[00:23:34]  But the implication is Congress needs to have him removed, and our lives may depend on other countries realizing that Trump is deeply unwell.
[00:23:41]  Started by religious fanatics.
[00:23:43]  It's not just her, but there are many prominent personalities.
[00:23:46]  I'm not going to name all the other podcasters.
[00:23:48]  She's just one of the more prominent ones, so she's going to get the name recognition.
[00:23:52]  But there are prominent personalities that I'm watching with these viral clips basically saying look, they're basically saying the U.S. is wrong, Iran is right.
[00:24:01]  And it is insane that that exists in our media and that it is sponsored, like that companies pay for these people to keep running this content, basically rooting for the destruction of this country.
[00:24:13]  And I want to stress, I'm not just saying podcasts that are like the war with Iran is bad.
[00:24:18]  I'm like, that's an opinion that was always allowed.
[00:24:20]  I'm talking about ones that are saying outright that our government is evil, that Trump is a mad king that needs to be stopped.
[00:24:27]  What distinction, what distinguishes Candace from any other leftist now?
[00:24:33]  Like nothing.
[00:24:36]  I don't know.
[00:24:37]  Her base, which is the scary part, is that people have gone, they've gone so black pilled though.
[00:24:41]  There's this like sect of conservatism that is not the antithesis of conservatism.
[00:24:46]  And they go down this black pill rabbit hole and they go into all these conspiracies and they don't trust the government so much that there's no distinction between fact or reality.
[00:24:57]  And Candace's audience is not liberal.
[00:24:59]  It's not conservatives.
[00:25:00]  No.
[00:25:01]  Anybody who's like, listen, go to a suburb, go to a purple.
[00:25:05]  Political suburb, and you're going to find a bunch of liberal women that go, I love Candace.
[00:25:08]  Anna Kasparian.
[00:25:09]  This is why I said she's not a conservative.
[00:25:11]  And I had, you know, Kyla was like, What do you mean she's not a conservative?
[00:25:14]  She makes a clip out of it.
[00:25:15]  And I'm like, Yeah, her audience is suburban women.
[00:25:19]  They're not conservative.
[00:25:20]  Blake Lively's relationship is not a conservative issue, right?
[00:25:25]  Brigitte McCrone being a man is not a conservative political issue.
[00:25:29]  And the drama of conspiracy with Charlie Kirk is only tangentially political.
[00:25:35]  Yeah, I was just like in Minneapolis covering the rights and all the white liberal women that I met.
[00:25:40]  All lefties, but they all listen to Candace and they all march to that beat of her drum.
[00:25:46]  I even saw some of the podcasters kind of in this space also even sharing like a story that even with this F 15 fighter jet rescue operation, that the US military was like trying to kill our own airmen on the ground and people like shared that.
[00:26:00]  And it seems like that type of content is just on this algorithm.
[00:26:04]  It just picks up.
[00:26:06]  Joe Kent shared a post from Iranian media saying, That the US was trying to kill this weapons officer before Iran could get to him.
[00:26:19]  And he posts this right before the guy gets rescued, and they're all screaming and cheering and celebrating.
[00:26:27]  So the question comes down to do you trust the Trump administration?
[00:26:31]  I'm going to tell you this I trust Trump infinitely more than I trust the Iranian government.
[00:26:36]  And it is crazy, Joe Kent's response.
[00:26:39]  So Jake Tepper calls him out and says, He's pushing this Iranian media source claiming that the US was trying to kill its own guy.
[00:26:44]  And he said Jake Tapper's job is to stop you from thinking critically.
[00:26:48]  You should be watching American media and Iranian media.
[00:26:51]  And I will say, I don't disagree, but I'm going to tell you Iranian media is outright lying about everything related to what we are doing because they are in the business of being our enemies and arming people in the region.
[00:27:05]  Now, look, if Iran wasn't arming Houthi rebels and giving militia groups weapons to kill people in the region, and you know, erase all of that.
[00:27:13]  Let's argue.
[00:27:14]  All of that may be propaganda.
[00:27:16]  If Iran wasn't blowing up civilians in this war, maybe I'd be inclined to believe something that their government or state media had to say.
[00:27:23]  But a fundamentalist country that marches in lockstep is not a country with what I would describe as trustworthy news.
[00:27:30]  In the United States, you have, as much as powerful people don't like it, Nick Fuentes gets his message out, CNN gets theirs out too, and you actually have choices within the American population that will give you contrasting viewpoints.
[00:27:44]  And for all of my complaints, we actually have.
[00:27:48]  We've got Crowder, who is obviously more pro Trump on this one.
[00:27:52]  CNN, not particularly pro Trump.
[00:27:55]  You've got Fox News, much more pro Trump, pro the war.
[00:27:57]  And you have Candace Owens, completely opposed to it.
[00:27:59]  So I'm going to say this state media from Iran, I think is trash, and you shouldn't be listening to it.
[00:28:05]  Let me clarify.
[00:28:06]  By all means, listen to it to understand what they are claiming.
[00:28:09]  I'm saying don't believe it, take it with a grain of salt.
[00:28:12]  The Iranian people think it's trash.
[00:28:14]  The Iranian population doesn't support it.
[00:28:16]  They're working against it's regime controlled media.
[00:28:19]  There's a big distinction to be made about.
[00:28:22]  We should be listening to what the North Korean media says.
[00:28:24]  They're trustworthy.
[00:28:25]  Crazy.
[00:28:26]  Look, I'm.
[00:28:27]  Like a good guy's.
[00:28:28]  MS Now, CNN, not trustworthy.
[00:28:31]  Okay.
[00:28:31]  Fox, you got to know what your sources are providing.
[00:28:34]  But in the United States, we've got so many different media sources.
[00:28:37]  It's a smorgasbord.
[00:28:38]  It's a pick your own adventure.
[00:28:39]  That's true, but that doesn't justify anything the government does ever, obviously.
[00:28:44]  Of course.
[00:28:45]  Blowing up of bridges and power plants, and this threat that he's going to obliterate their electrical grid.
[00:28:51]  Like, we're not at war with the Iranian civilianry, and we're supposed to be liberating them from a tyrannical government.
[00:28:56]  That's not the path.
[00:28:57]  Blowing up their power supplies is not the path.
[00:28:59]  That's not real.
[00:29:01]  We're all adults here.
[00:29:01]  We don't have to pretend like the U.S. is trying to free anybody.
[00:29:05]  The U.S. wants control of natural gas and oil around the world, and they will blow up whoever they have to to get it.
[00:29:10]  And if your concern about the war in Iran has to do with the morality of collateral damage and blowing up bridges, I respect that argument.
[00:29:17]  It is a good argument.
[00:29:18]  But the reason.
[00:29:19]  The Trump administration, or any administration in the US, comes out and says they hate us for our freedom or they're slaughtering protesters, is because they can't come out and say, Listen, we are going to force them to bend the knee so they stop arming extremists and they get their oil and energy on the global trade system.
[00:29:36]  And if we have to blow up their power plants to do it, we will.
[00:29:39]  But that'll teach them a lesson.
[00:29:40]  That's the mentality of what the US is willing, or the United States largely, is willing to do.
[00:29:45]  By all means, again, say it's bad.
[00:29:47]  They're not going to admit it.
[00:29:48]  But I will stress, we're all adults here.
[00:29:50]  We don't need to pretend that we're great heroes going to liberate the Iranian people.
[00:29:54]  Trump's never stated a regime change to be the goal, ever.
[00:29:57]  Also, the.
[00:29:58]  Well, he did a regime change.
[00:29:59]  He did after they dropped, they tried to blow up their nuclear bunker.
[00:30:03]  He said they wanted to do a regime change after that.
[00:30:05]  You're going to love this.
[00:30:05]  Do you know what a graphite string bomb is?
[00:30:07]  Negative.
[00:30:07]  So, a graphite string bomb, also known as a blackout bomb, is a non lethal weapon designed to disable electrical power grids by releasing conductive carbon filaments, graphite fibers, over power infrastructure.
[00:30:19]  He's not looking to blow up the power plants.
[00:30:22]  He's looking to take them offline.
[00:30:24]  These don't destroy them.
[00:30:25]  But, but, But that serves the same function that Ian's complaining about.
[00:30:27]  Well, it doesn't destroy them, though.
[00:30:28]  No, no, no, but taking them offline will kill diabetics overnight.
[00:30:33]  Yes, but it's not the same thing as actually destroying the infrastructure.
[00:30:37]  But blowing up bridges.
[00:30:38]  That's horrible.
[00:30:39]  Yes, but listen, here's the thing.
[00:30:41]  We're at war.
[00:30:42]  We're not technically starting at war.
[00:30:44]  Okay, come on.
[00:30:45]  We're out.
[00:30:46]  We're out.
[00:30:46]  The American government attacked them.
[00:30:48]  Actually, the Israeli government attacked them, and the Americans joined the U.S.
[00:30:52]  So hold on, hold on.
[00:30:53]  So is us attacking them, does that make us the aggressor who started the war?
[00:31:00]  Yeah, yeah, military operation.
[00:31:01]  Is it wrong of us to have done that?
[00:31:03]  Oh, God, that's a good deep question.
[00:31:04]  Well, I'm asking you what you think.
[00:31:05]  Do you think it was wrong of us to attack them?
[00:31:08]  I don't have all the info of what was going on with BB and Donald Trump with the United States attacked Iran.
[00:31:14]  Was it right or wrong?
[00:31:15]  I don't know if they had nuclear armament capability.
[00:31:17]  I don't know.
[00:31:18]  I don't know.
[00:31:18]  So I can't.
[00:31:19]  So I'm going to answer this for you.
[00:31:22]  The United States didn't just attack Iran.
[00:31:24]  Iran has been attacking U.S. interests and allies and our troops in the region for a long time.
[00:31:28]  And they've been arming groups that have attacked civilians.
[00:31:31]  There were civilian cargo ships being blown up in the Red Sea by Houthi rebels that Iran was giving weapons to.
[00:31:36]  And we did nothing for a long time.
[00:31:39]  Obama's argument was appeasement.
[00:31:41]  It was, let's cut a deal.
[00:31:43]  And then when Trump said, this deal is bad because they haven't stopped arming psychopaths who are bombing and killing civilians.
[00:31:50]  So he cuts the deal off.
[00:31:51]  And then Iran comes out and says, we had a deal and he broke that deal.
[00:31:54]  Marco Rubio hit the nail on the head with the hammer.
[00:31:57]  We told them, you can have nuclear power, we don't care.
[00:31:59]  But they weren't building above ground nuclear facilities like anybody else.
[00:32:02]  They weren't importing energy like everybody else.
[00:32:04]  They were building deep underground bunkers to enrich uranium.
[00:32:07]  At the same time, they were providing weapons to various factions that were attacking civilians.
[00:32:12]  Notably, again, I'm going to stress this.
[00:32:13]  Now, you've got all your arguments about Gaza and Israel on October 7th.
[00:32:17]  Fine.
[00:32:18]  After October 7th, and Israel launches their war into Gaza, whatever your opinions are, that's fine.
[00:32:24]  I'm not arguing that.
[00:32:25]  Iran starts arming Houthi rebels in retaliation who blow up cargo ships unrelated to any of the war.
[00:32:31]  That's why they are evil because they don't look at the war and say, We are going to fight you because you are fighting us.
[00:32:38]  They say, We will kill your families, we will kill children, and we will blow up your stuff, and we will blow up their stuff.
[00:32:44]  And so the U.S. goes, Okay, these people are nuts.
[00:32:47]  Right.
[00:32:47]  Ian, if I say, I want to fight you, we're going to have fisticuffs, and you say, and then you pull out a hammer and say, I will crack Card over the skull if you try it, I'm going to be like, bro.
[00:32:56]  But if you attack me and you leave your baggage train unguarded with the women and children, you better believe they're all dying.
[00:33:02]  They weren't our cargo ships.
[00:33:04]  They were other countries transporting goods through the Red Sea, and the Houthis bombed them because they were like, we will not let you have trade because Israel's at war with Gaza and the U.S. is allied.
[00:33:16]  We're going to bomb random civilians in the Red Sea and blow up their cargo ships.
[00:33:20]  I'm sorry, they're the bad guys.
[00:33:23]  We don't have to support Israel or be happy about what they're doing, but the idea that the retaliation against Israel is arming psychopaths to bomb civilians, I'm sorry, those are the bad guys.
[00:33:33]  And so the US finally gets involved in a war with Iran.
[00:33:36]  I am not suggesting we should have or that it was good.
[00:33:38]  My argument is we didn't just willy nilly start a war with Iran.
[00:33:42]  I'm not happy that we're involved with it.
[00:33:44]  I would like us to not be involved with it.
[00:33:46]  I'm concerned about the long term effects.
[00:33:47]  Gas is at $4, diesel is at $6 near us.
[00:33:50]  That's freaky and it's bad for us politically, and there are risks.
[00:33:53]  But again, I think it was the Bill Burr joke.
[00:33:55]  I can't remember who pointed out on the show that you can argue we shouldn't have gone into Iran.
[00:33:59]  But to say there's no reason, really?
[00:34:02]  No reason?
[00:34:02]  I think Iran has been evil.
[00:34:05]  It's just, it's evil.
[00:34:07]  Someone comes to you and they're negotiating, and they're negotiating with heavy power, but largely with soft power.
[00:34:12]  So you give a bunch of gangbangers guns, start shooting up a school.
[00:34:15]  How does that, how does, okay, now you're getting the boot.
[00:34:18]  And that's what's happening now.
[00:34:20]  Again, I think us getting involved in these things are, it's a roll of the dice.
[00:34:24]  It's very, very bad.
[00:34:25]  It's very dangerous.
[00:34:26]  But I will just say, To the people who think Israel controls our foreign policy, Donald Trump did not discombobulate Caracas and then seize Maduro to get access to all of their oil infrastructure because Israel wanted him to do it.
[00:34:39]  He did it because he knew the U.S. was going to make a move on Iran and Trump was going to regime change them.
[00:34:45]  Again, there are these arguments and the propaganda oh, they're killing civilians, there's protests, the people don't like it.
[00:34:51]  None of that is really relevant to what the military is trying to accomplish.
[00:34:54]  That's a narrative that works for regular people who don't pay that much attention to be told, we're the good guys.
[00:34:59]  I think any way you cut it, There's going to be collateral damage, which is bad, and the U.S. goes to great lengths to avoid it, but we are the good guys here.
[00:35:06]  Rant over.
[00:35:07]  My personal, I don't think there's good or bad.
[00:35:10]  It's like two power structures going at it.
[00:35:11]  It's like Roman, like we're like, look, bend the knee and become a client state.
[00:35:15]  They're like, no, we don't want your peaceful nuclear power.
[00:35:18]  We want our own weapons.
[00:35:19]  We're like, then die.
[00:35:19]  And let's, let me, let me, They kept trying to build weapons, so then now they're getting the boot.
[00:35:40]  No, they started giving weapons to lunatics who were bombing embassies and killing people.
[00:35:43]  They're using secret weapons programs.
[00:35:45]  I agree.
[00:35:45]  Ian, if I go to you and I say, I'm going to give you your money back, you don't have to bend the knee, and then you plot a gun and shoot a kid, you're getting the boot.
[00:35:52]  It's not the Klein State offer.
[00:35:54]  They were supplying roadside bombs during the Iraq war and blowing up Americans.
[00:35:59]  They killed like 300 people at the embassy in Lebanon in the 80s.
[00:36:05]  They've been an adversary for a long time.
[00:36:08]  And Obama tried the, we're backing off.
[00:36:11]  We're going to unfreeze billions.
[00:36:13]  The money is yours.
[00:36:14]  Just, I think this is a good opportunity for a ceasefire.
[00:36:18]  And they were like, thank you, thank you.
[00:36:19]  Make nukes and start killing more people.
[00:36:21]  We said that for a decade as they did.
[00:36:23]  You can say that it's a bad idea for the U.S. to do this.
[00:36:25]  That's totally legitimate.
[00:36:26]  But to say that the U.S. is just like, well, you have to be a client state, and if you won't, that's what we're going to do.
[00:36:31]  That's just not.
[00:36:31]  That's the economic hypocrisy.
[00:36:34]  That is not representative reality.
[00:36:36]  Like Iran has done things in the past and has done things recently.
[00:36:41]  That actually led to this.
[00:36:43]  Again, you can say that the U.S. shouldn't do it.
[00:36:45]  That's fine.
[00:36:46]  But the way that you're framing the situation is totally not true.
[00:36:53]  It's not that they're just like, oh, you have to be a client state or else we're going to do this.
[00:36:56]  That's not the case.
[00:36:57]  Oh, they said put down your weapons.
[00:36:58]  Basically, let us run your government.
[00:37:01]  There's one single reason to enrich uranium to pass the single digits.
[00:37:05]  One.
[00:37:05]  And it's only to develop nuclear weapons.
[00:37:08]  We said stop doing it, stop doing it, stop doing it.
[00:37:10]  They did it.
[00:37:10]  Iran is an octopus.
[00:37:11]  Iran's the head, and all their proxy groups are the tentacles.
[00:37:14]  After October 7th, Israel and the U.S. went after the tentacles.
[00:37:18]  We went after all of the proxy groups, and they got weak and weak and weaker.
[00:37:22]  And they felt it.
[00:37:23]  Their economy was plummeting.
[00:37:27]  Their currency was almost near zero at this point, hit zero.
[00:37:32]  And they were feeling it.
[00:37:35]  And so they didn't really have any other options in funding their other proxy groups because they didn't have the money because their economy is plummeting because of all the work that Israel and the U.S. did.
[00:37:44]  And so they're backed into a corner.
[00:37:45]  So they're They're backed into a corner and they say, What do we do?
[00:37:48]  How do we get out of this?
[00:37:50]  Race to nuclear.
[00:37:52]  There's one single reason, one reason only to enrich uranium past the single digits.
[00:37:58]  So the question then is with Obama, his administration for eight years going to the Iranians and saying, We're going to cut a deal.
[00:38:04]  We're going to unfreeze your money.
[00:38:05]  We're going to give the money back.
[00:38:06]  We're going to welcome you guys under the petrodollar system.
[00:38:09]  Some of the sanctions will be lifted.
[00:38:11]  You'll start making more money.
[00:38:12]  They immediately started enriching uranium.
[00:38:14]  That's why Trump got pissed.

=== Aliens, Machinery, And Impact (18:05) ===

[00:38:15]  He said, Now hold on.
[00:38:16]  We said we're backing off.
[00:38:17]  We're giving you your money back.
[00:38:19]  We're letting you develop economically.
[00:38:20]  We're putting your oil in the system and you immediately start making bombs.
[00:38:24]  You're lying to us.
[00:38:26]  I don't even feel a need to analogize a situation like this because I think it's obvious, but let's put it like this Ian, you live on a city street, and one block over, there's a guy who keeps giving guns to gangbangers, and they're shooting people with it, and they're robbing people.
[00:38:40]  And you go to him and say, Bro, if you keep doing this, we are going to lock you down.
[00:38:46]  We're going to stop letting delivery trucks come out of the street.
[00:38:48]  You're not going to have any food.
[00:38:50]  Stop doing this.
[00:38:50]  And they go, Oh, okay.
[00:38:51]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:38:52]  We'll stop.
[00:38:52]  So you say, Okay.
[00:38:53]  Then they keep doing it.
[00:38:55]  Then some kids get shot.
[00:38:56]  So you come over and you say, okay, we're cutting off deliveries.
[00:38:58]  You're not getting any delivers anymore.
[00:39:00]  We're not going to let you do transactions like we are shutting you down because you're giving weapons to people who are killing others.
[00:39:06]  And they say, oh, no, oh, woe is me.
[00:39:08]  So then your boy comes in and he goes, listen, this is not going to work.
[00:39:11]  Let's cut a deal with them.
[00:39:12]  Let's give them their money back, open things back up.
[00:39:14]  And they start buying RPGs.
[00:39:16]  And you're like, okay, hold on.
[00:39:18]  These guys are currently assembling some RPGs.
[00:39:21]  Let them do it.
[00:39:23]  Are you asking me?
[00:39:24]  Obviously, you don't.
[00:39:25]  Appeasement is not the.
[00:39:26]  The word of the day.
[00:39:26]  No.
[00:39:26]  So, do you want to be like Neville Chamberlain or do you want to be Winston Churchill?
[00:39:29]  They had their opportunity.
[00:39:30]  They missed it.
[00:39:30]  Who do you want to be, Neville Chamberlain or Winston Churchill?
[00:39:33]  I'm Churchill.
[00:39:34]  That means go to Iran and bomb it.
[00:39:37]  I'm somewhere in the middle.
[00:39:38]  Winston was a war man, he was a fighter.
[00:39:41]  This war really does boil down to a very high level question, and it's do you believe Iran should have the capabilities to develop nuclear weapons?
[00:39:50]  Dear, no.
[00:39:51]  Okay, so then that's really all this boils down to.
[00:39:56]  Yeah.
[00:39:56]  I mean, well, how we get rid of it is a big part of the debate.
[00:40:01]  You know, my concern with U.S. military foreign policy largely is around wanton actions, violence, collateral damage, but principally the failure of function.
[00:40:13]  And that is, Iraq was miserable, Afghanistan was doubly miserable.
[00:40:18]  Obviously, these moves against Iraq and Afghanistan, for anyone who's been paying attention, were a pincer strike against Iran because Iran has basically been funding all of the chaos and destabilizing the region.
[00:40:28]  Barack Obama's strategy with Syria and ISIS and was it Timber Sycamore?
[00:40:33]  Miserable American foreign policy across the board, just all the time.
[00:40:37]  And now you've got collateral damage in Iran.
[00:40:39]  That being said, the U.S. is the most moral and righteous country on the planet.
[00:40:47]  And in terms of global powers, historically, it is the most moral and it is the best.
[00:40:53]  Certainly, you can point to things that the U.S. has done that are bad.
[00:40:55]  I do it all the time.
[00:40:56]  Barack Obama ordered a drone strike.
[00:40:58]  Killing Abdulrahman al-Alaki.
[00:41:00]  And I think he did it because you want to send a message to the terrorists, we'll kill your kids.
[00:41:03]  I don't think that was a good thing.
[00:41:04]  I don't think he was a good person.
[00:41:06]  I don't think that the United States is a pure goodness all the time.
[00:41:09]  I just think that when you look at what China does, there is deranged psychotic evil and ethnocentric evil militaristic policies, like with the rape of Uighur Muslims in concentration camps and forced abortions and things like that.
[00:41:23]  Take a look at the conflict that's happening with Kashmir.
[00:41:27]  And it's not just Pakistan and India.
[00:41:29]  Don't get me wrong, the British were absolutely involved in that.
[00:41:32]  Historically, it looks like the US goes to painstakingly great efforts to be just, to be nice, to try and help people.
[00:41:40]  But some people don't want to be helped.
[00:41:42]  Some people are fundamentalist extremists who will kill you.
[00:41:45]  And that was certainly ISIS, and that was largely Obama's fault, his administration.
[00:41:49]  I just look at the US historically.
[00:41:51]  I look at the communists historically.
[00:41:53]  I look at the Nazis, the fascists, and you can go back way in time and you're like, man, the Americans are pussies.
[00:41:58]  Like, I'm sorry.
[00:41:59]  They've got tremendous, they've conquered tremendously, they've expanded.
[00:42:02]  We've dominated.
[00:42:03]  But my point is, when I say this, is not to be derisive and insult all that America is.
[00:42:06]  It's to point out that we are not particularly brutal.
[00:42:10]  We are fairly brutal, but compared to administrations of various governments past, we are the least brutal global hegemon.
[00:42:17]  Although I think the stories of World War II was that the Americans were the most terrifying guys to come into contact with because they were like a bunch of farm boys that would rip your throat out and they were happy to do it.
[00:42:27]  That's what the stories of the Japanese tell.
[00:42:29]  Maybe, but you take a look at the Japanese unit.
[00:42:32]  What unit was that?
[00:42:33]  What was that?
[00:42:34]  731.
[00:42:35]  731, was that what it was?
[00:42:36]  I think it was.
[00:42:37]  So you want to Google that?
[00:42:38]  Yeah, let me make sure.
[00:42:39]  The human experiments the Japanese were doing on them was nightmarish.
[00:42:42]  It was nightmarish.
[00:42:43]  Like the U.S. did not do these things.
[00:42:46]  But the U.S. had no problem recruiting them.
[00:42:48]  The Americans were bigger.
[00:42:49]  They were bigger than a lot of those Japanese guys.
[00:42:52]  So they were like scary as coming up the 731 units.
[00:42:55]  Yeah, it was 731, man.
[00:42:56]  The Nazi scientists were brutal and did human experiments.
[00:43:00]  It's crazy.
[00:43:01]  The Japanese as well.
[00:43:02]  Americans didn't do that.
[00:43:02]  Now, don't get me wrong.
[00:43:03]  I'm not going to pretend Americans didn't ever do anything that was untoward, bad, or wrong, like we know about the Tuskegee experiments.
[00:43:09]  Well, are we building chimeric alien life?
[00:43:13]  Because this is another story.
[00:43:13]  I don't know if we have this queued up.
[00:43:15]  Maybe that's what Epstein was doing.
[00:43:18]  I'm going to say this with all seriousness, and let's talk about aliens.
[00:43:20]  I'm going to say this with all seriousness.
[00:43:23]  It may be that one of the reasons they will not release the Epstein info is because the children are being trafficked for the explicit purpose of alien hybrid programs.
[00:43:32]  I'm only half kidding.
[00:43:34]  And the reason why I say I'm only half kidding is while I do not believe that's the case, with Matt Gaetz coming out and saying that they have alien hybrid programs, and now Tim Burchett is saying aliens are real, if those people are telling the truth, and have you seen all the crazy videos of stuff in the sky that's been going on?
[00:43:51]  Like, I think that's what Epstein was.
[00:43:54]  However, I would put that at an astronomically low percentage.
[00:43:57]  But let me do this.
[00:43:58]  We got this story from TMZ.
[00:44:00]  Rep Tim Burchett, aliens are real.
[00:44:02]  We've made contact.
[00:44:03]  I'm going to play this video and I'm going to jump ahead.
[00:44:05]  Let's play it.
[00:44:06]  Are you talking about a form of life that is not earthly or just something mechanical that's not earthly?
[00:44:14]  I'd say you'd be safe to say both.
[00:44:16]  The way you described this, whatever happened and this meeting, this briefing that was happening, was there something that if we knew, we would feel that we are in danger?
[00:44:27]  You said.
[00:44:28]  You wouldn't sleep at night if you knew the things that I saw in these briefings.
[00:44:33]  Yeah.
[00:44:33]  Should we believe that?
[00:44:35]  That's the part where it seemed alarming.
[00:44:37]  I don't think we're at danger of this.
[00:44:40]  I mean, if these things exist as I think they do, they could have destroyed us with a blink of an eye.
[00:44:47]  I just don't see that.
[00:44:49]  And I think that I just think, but I do think they have the technology and the capabilities of something that we can't understand or we can't grasp.
[00:44:59]  What I want to make sure I'm understanding is a member of our government has told you and others, I guess, that there is a form of alien life and machinery which maybe brought this living creature here that interacted in some form with people.
[00:45:26]  Yeah, they have.
[00:45:27]  And they've, it's pretty wild.
[00:45:31]  I know.
[00:45:31]  I know.
[00:45:32]  But I'm just telling you, I'm not going to lie to you.
[00:45:34]  I'd take a lie to tell you won't put me on a polygraph.
[00:45:36]  I'll take it.
[00:45:37]  But, you know, this is what the guy told me.
[00:45:39]  I mean, I've had a very high ranking naval official describe, you know, I've talked about this before, underwater craft, something big as a football field moving at over 200 miles an hour.
[00:45:51]  And there's no fish in the ocean that would do that.
[00:45:53]  We don't even have a sub that'll probably do 40 miles an hour under the, And the last thing he said before he left my office was, it was kind of weird because he didn't go out the side door, which nobody ever uses.
[00:46:06]  And he looked at me, he pulled me up close, and he said, Tim, they're real.
[00:46:09]  And that's the last thing he said to me.
[00:46:11]  That'll be the title of my book, I guess.
[00:46:13]  Matt Gaetz was involved in something here just recently.
[00:46:16]  He was interviewed and he talked about this interbreeding thing with.
[00:46:23]  Yeah, no, we saw that.
[00:46:24]  We saw that.
[00:46:25]  Well, you know, that's a true story.
[00:46:28]  That was a military thing.
[00:46:29]  A person, military personnel.
[00:46:31]  I think that would be a good story to talk to him about if you all can do that.
[00:46:37]  Right.
[00:46:37]  He says he learned that from someone in the military.
[00:46:41]  So, Tim Burchett, Aliens Are Real.
[00:46:44]  Well, I got some videos for you that I want to play.
[00:46:46]  And let's pull these clips in.
[00:46:48]  We've got this video, which is weird.
[00:46:52]  Check this out.
[00:46:56]  Something falling in the sky.
[00:46:58]  What could it be?
[00:46:59]  It could be a million and one things.
[00:47:00]  It doesn't mean it's aliens or anything like that.
[00:47:02]  But check this out.
[00:47:03]  You can see the point of impact.
[00:47:04]  Just keep watching.
[00:47:04]  You'll see it with the flash.
[00:47:07]  Bang.
[00:47:07]  You saw that?
[00:47:09]  This is purportedly the crash site of where whatever was falling landed.
[00:47:17]  I will stress it's the internet.
[00:47:19]  These things could be fake.
[00:47:20]  Where is it?
[00:47:21]  This was in the Jabun region of Indonesia.
[00:47:25]  So they're saying if it would have fallen at an angle if it was a meteorite, missile, or space debris, that's.
[00:47:31]  Not true.
[00:47:32]  A UFO crash.
[00:47:33]  Well, yeah, literally, we don't know what it was.
[00:47:35]  But then we've got this video.
[00:47:36]  Check this out.
[00:47:49]  So, what could that be?
[00:47:50]  That's something breaking up, clearly.
[00:47:52]  Yeah.
[00:47:53]  Yep.
[00:47:53]  That's not a meteorite.
[00:47:55]  So, there's been a bunch of speculation that maybe what's happening is.
[00:48:01]  One of the most reasonable things to assume.
[00:48:03]  With the conflict in Iran, Russia and China have begun using space weapons to blow up our satellite resources because GPS is military.
[00:48:11]  Or the U.S. is blowing up anything non U.S. that's up there.
[00:48:15]  We are at war in space.
[00:48:16]  We have a space force, and some people are speculating that all of these things people are seeing are not meteors.
[00:48:23]  It's we are at war in space.
[00:48:25]  We are blowing up our adversaries' space technology.
[00:48:29]  That would have to be a very sizable piece of equipment to make that kind of trail coming in and have that many pieces falling off.
[00:48:36]  Like, it's not small.
[00:48:37]  Like, that reminded me of one of the times that Starship blew up when it was returning to Earth.
[00:48:40]  Was that on return, that second video?
[00:48:41]  Or was that, it looked like it was on launch that it was breaking apart, but maybe it was just the angle of the video?
[00:48:44]  I don't know.
[00:48:45]  I have no way.
[00:48:45]  Take a look at this.
[00:48:46]  You tell me what this is, Ian.
[00:48:47]  Ian.
[00:48:53]  I. What is that?
[00:49:09]  It's really hot debris.
[00:49:13]  It looks like something cut through the cloud.
[00:49:16]  There's something in the sky.
[00:49:18]  That is weird.
[00:49:19]  Yeah.
[00:49:20]  That's crazy.
[00:49:22]  Luminescent debris of some sort.
[00:49:24]  It's just staying there, though.
[00:49:26]  Yeah, it's like a cloud of debris.
[00:49:29]  Maybe it's like a cloud of debris.
[00:49:31]  Luminescent, maybe?
[00:49:31]  It looks like a spaceship.
[00:49:32]  That looks more like a spaceship.
[00:49:34]  Everyone's saying it's a spaceship.
[00:49:35]  Yeah.
[00:49:35]  Oh, they are?
[00:49:36]  No, it looks like gas.
[00:49:38]  What?
[00:49:39]  It's like an airplane cut through gas.
[00:49:41]  What?
[00:49:41]  The lights?
[00:49:42]  Well, that is, it's an interesting shade.
[00:49:44]  It's like windows.
[00:49:45]  Yeah.
[00:49:45]  It's very symmetrical.
[00:49:47]  I wonder if it could just be the light from the buildings on the roof is just hitting the clouds and reflecting back.
[00:49:55]  Yeah.
[00:49:55]  You know, it's a video, a grainy video.
[00:49:57]  They might be working with that sound, the discombobulator sound tech from orbit and like vibrating upper atmosphere.
[00:50:05]  Well, I will say this whatever that is, I'm sure there's always a rational explanation.
[00:50:10]  However, why are all of these sightings happening right now?
[00:50:14]  Is it just that because people hear it in the news, they start reporting and looking in the sky?
[00:50:19]  Yeah, it is a psyop, I believe.
[00:50:21]  Tim Burchett was psyop by this Intel guy who came in and was like, tell people there are ends.
[00:50:25]  I wonder if Tim believes it or if he's like, I'm buying into the war propaganda now, I'm just going to play the part.
[00:50:30]  Or if he just believes it without questioning it or if he's lying.
[00:50:34]  War propaganda doesn't believe it and he's sitting there.
[00:50:36]  I think he believes it.
[00:50:38]  I do.
[00:50:38]  I think he believes it.
[00:50:39]  I think a lot of people believe this.
[00:50:41]  He said it was all the alphabet agencies that told him this.
[00:50:43]  So he's not saying it was just one person.
[00:50:45]  He said it was a bunch of off the record conversations.
[00:50:47]  That didn't sound like he believed it, right?
[00:50:49]  It sounded like, I don't know, sounded very passive.
[00:50:52]  He was kind of joking too and like laughing.
[00:50:54]  Well, I didn't sound like a serious reporter.
[00:50:56]  I think he knows it's crazy to say.
[00:50:58]  Yeah, I think, but I think someone did tell him this.
[00:51:00]  I think Matt Gaetz is telling the truth.
[00:51:02]  I just think their attitude is kind of like, what are we going to do about it?
[00:51:06]  Like you're pointing out, Ian, maybe military guys are saying, let's seed this story to create distractions.
[00:51:12]  People will care much more about aliens and focus on other things instead of war.
[00:51:16]  And they know a member of Congress.
[00:51:18]  I mean, listen, if aliens were real and they were going to tell them, they'd classify it.
[00:51:21]  It'd be top secret.
[00:51:22]  They'd bring them to a skiff.
[00:51:23]  They wouldn't just tell them.
[00:51:24]  So I'd be more inclined to believe.
[00:51:27]  They're seeding a PSYOP, like Ian's pointing out, not for war propaganda or anything, but for some kind of distraction.
[00:51:31]  He did it with Bob Lazar, too.
[00:51:33]  He went to Area 51, where he used to work, and he said that inside they brought him inside and they showed him what I think were drones, different designs.
[00:51:40]  And he's like, oh my God, with like metamaterials that hadn't been seen yet, you know, nanotech.
[00:51:44]  And so they told him they're alien craft, and they may have even put an animal or a stuffed animal or something in one.
[00:51:50]  And they were like, look, now we're talking about chimeras.
[00:51:53]  Hold on, I'm sorry, I'm sorry to interrupt, but they don't need metamaterials or nanoparticles.
[00:51:59]  All they need to do is go like this.
[00:52:01]  Ian, see my thumb?
[00:52:02]  Watch this.
[00:52:03]  Oh, look at my thumb.
[00:52:06]  Like, they literally just.
[00:52:07]  They don't work on me.
[00:52:08]  They do magic tricks.
[00:52:09]  Yeah, maybe they were doing that too.
[00:52:10]  I don't know.
[00:52:11]  But I do think they have advanced drone tech since they.
[00:52:12]  But do they really need it to distract Americans?
[00:52:14]  Americans are so distracted.
[00:52:16]  Of course.
[00:52:16]  Americans don't even know that.
[00:52:18]  A lot of the countries don't even know we're at war still.
[00:52:20]  There is a really great reason to make a fake campaign tricking Bob Lazar.
[00:52:25]  The first is the assumption that Bob Lazar is in on the whole thing.
[00:52:28]  And they said, here's the story we want you to present.
[00:52:31]  However, that's tough to maintain, right?
[00:52:33]  The easier thing to make someone a true believer would be to take a guy who should be contracted for this job, set up a stage, like not like a staging area, where you have a bunch of magic tricks and he sees them and you tell him they're real.
[00:52:47]  And then he runs to the media and leaks it.
[00:52:49]  Why?
[00:52:49]  Because the Soviets are listening.
[00:52:51]  Well, to be fair, at this point, I don't know that what year was this?
[00:52:54]  Was this this post?
[00:52:54]  Bob Lazar?
[00:52:55]  I don't know.
[00:52:55]  Yeah, this was post Soviet era, I believe.
[00:52:59]  But the point is, you make your enemies think you have advanced weapons and technology they can't account for.
[00:53:04]  It makes them scared to attack you.
[00:53:05]  So, what I would say is, my belief on Bob Lazar is they psyoped him.
[00:53:09]  They said, bring a guy in, do a magic show, right?
[00:53:12]  He says, a little green man was standing next to a vehicle.
[00:53:15]  Oh, a little green man, huh?
[00:53:16]  He's later retracted that saying, oh, I must have been mistaken.
[00:53:19]  Yeah, sure.
[00:53:21]  I think they make him see all these things that he wants to believe, and then they set him up to go and leak to a reporter, and it makes great news, and then everyone tells the world America has access.
[00:53:29]  To alien technology.
[00:53:30]  Sure.
[00:53:31]  He said he got up close to the one and he tried to put his hand on it and it pushed him away.
[00:53:35]  So, like, there could be vibration tech they're building, but it all could have been a magic show.
[00:53:39]  No, that's possible acoustic force fields.
[00:53:41]  Yeah.
[00:53:41]  I bet they had some.
[00:53:44]  I bet they had some.
[00:53:45]  Public in 1989.
[00:53:47]  No, it was just 1989 and then something else in 2003.
[00:53:50]  Now, the chimera stuff of like alien human hybrids or just like alien or human animal hybrids might be.
[00:53:57]  We were talking about is America the most ethical country on the planet?
[00:53:59]  We are.
[00:54:00]  It is.
[00:54:00]  Like, are we experimenting on, like, chimericizing humans with dogs and monkeys so that they can.
[00:54:06]  Is there a cosmic wave and stuff?
[00:54:09]  Acoustic levitation.
[00:54:11]  Yes.
[00:54:11]  You never see this?
[00:54:12]  You're focused on a point, and you can levitate something at that point in midair.
[00:54:17]  This is real, yo.
[00:54:18]  Oh!
[00:54:19]  Houston, we have levitation.
[00:54:22]  We just made this happen here.
[00:54:24]  The main concept here is standing waves.
[00:54:26]  Standing waves can happen anywhere you use the right frequency on a confined medium.
[00:54:31]  Like when you disturb a slinky at one end, the disturbance Or, the wave travels to the other end.
[00:54:35]  If I then constrain or bound the slinky at the other end, the wave will reflect back.
[00:54:40]  The places along the standing wave that aren't moving at all are called nodes.
[00:54:43]  The nodes here are the places where the air is not moving, even though it's moving a lot everywhere else around the node.
[00:54:48]  So, in our levitator, our little pieces of styrofoam and lint get held there at the nodes because if they're anywhere else, they'll get pushed back in or pushed out.
[00:54:57]  And there you have acoustic levitation.
[00:55:00]  Have you ever imagined if the U.S. government built a massive stadium sized acoustic levitator because we have the tech?
[00:55:07]  Why wouldn't they at least try it?
[00:55:08]  And then they had a UFO levitating, and they said, Hey, Bob, look.
[00:55:11]  And he went, Oh my God, it's levitating.
[00:55:13]  Can't move anywhere, you know, but it looks crazy.
[00:55:16]  I think if you move the standing waves, you can move it around, I think, in theory.
[00:55:20]  Yes, but you need emitters to move it.
[00:55:23]  It's not self propelling.
[00:55:24]  Although it would be interesting if there is a way to create a self contained acoustic wave generator that could create standing waves that could move, almost like a rudimentary warp technology that moves the waves, causing you to stick to the node and move around.
[00:55:37]  Yeah.
[00:55:37]  Yeah.
[00:55:38]  I think talking plasma, but for wave generation, for acoustics.
[00:55:43]  You would either have to move super fast or super slow.
[00:55:47]  Like, that's why super cold things can, they stop moving.
[00:55:50]  So they, then you can kind of spin really fast and reduce quantum locking.
[00:55:54]  Is that what you're talking about?
[00:55:55]  Jeez, I don't even know what you would call it.
[00:55:56]  There's so many terms.
[00:55:58]  I think it's called quantum locking.
[00:55:59]  There's something about reversing horizontal momentum or increasing horizontal momentum by spinning super fast that it reduces vertical momentum to zero.
[00:56:07]  And then you're able to kind of go wherever.
[00:56:09]  Quantum locking.
[00:56:10]  You notice it too.
[00:56:11]  If you spin like a really fast thing on a stick, it'll be really easy to lift, like hundreds of pounds.
[00:56:15]  Yeah, here, check it out.
[00:56:18]  Quantum locking.
[00:56:19]  Oh.

=== Inducing Psychosis With DMT (08:31) ===

[00:56:20]  To become superconducting, the material has to be cooled to extremely low temperatures using liquid nitrogen, which can dramatically change the properties of materials.
[00:56:28]  Wow.
[00:56:29]  When a superconductor is placed into the magnetic field above a magnet, it expels all the magnetic fields from within itself, except for weak points where the magnetic field lines are locked inside.
[00:56:39]  When the magnet is moved, the superconductor will move as well to keep the magnetism locked in the weak points.
[00:56:45]  With a clever layout of magnets, the superconductor can be made to travel around a track.
[00:56:50]  The superconductor is first cooled before being placed onto the truck.
[00:56:57]  You only need one power in 70,000 to be superconducting, so a small superconductor can hold a huge weight.
[00:57:02]  Similar technology is already used in certain magnetically levitated trains.
[00:57:07]  But who knows what the future holds for quantum locking?
[00:57:09]  Maybe even Marty McFly and his hoverboard will be seen soon.
[00:57:14]  So the question then is if they can maintain ultra low temperatures, you could have frictionless motion.
[00:57:20]  I mean, the amount of energy.
[00:57:23]  Well, I guess the question is how much energy do you need to reach that low of a temperature?
[00:57:26]  It's probably greater than just driving the car.
[00:57:29]  But if we could ever find a way to keep temperatures artificially cooled to an extreme degree that you can quantum lock, then you would need a minimal amount of force to propel a train, like you already mentioned, or vehicles.
[00:57:39]  You know, they figured out how to decouple heat from electricity using graphene as a waveguide in last November.
[00:57:45]  Decouple heat from electricity.
[00:57:47]  So electricity is no longer hot in this medium.
[00:57:49]  You might be able to go super cool with that phenomenon.
[00:57:54]  Wow.
[00:57:55]  Yeah.
[00:57:56]  It's a cool story.
[00:57:58]  Cool indeed.
[00:57:58]  That's a heavy part of the Tism.
[00:58:00]  So, you know, what really gets me about all this alien stuff is just this idea, like as Tim Burchett's pointing out, that aliens are so technologically advanced that we are basically nothing.
[00:58:12]  And they've got something as big as two football fields moving 200 miles an hour underwater, and we can't even go 40 in a submarine.
[00:58:19]  It's almost like imagining you're on a sailboat seeing a plane for the first time, like you're on an old caravan in the 1500s, and a plane flies by.
[00:58:28]  You'd be like, what?
[00:58:30]  It must be like they're telling us, look, if they just came out and they were like, we have this technology, look, then the Chinese would be like, oh crap, they have the technology.
[00:58:38]  If you say it's aliens, the Chinese might actually believe it and then start defending against an alien attack that'll never come.
[00:58:43]  So, like, great, great, like, red herring.
[00:58:46]  Other than that, I'm just like, yo, be straight up with the tech we have and how dominant of a force we are.
[00:58:50]  I guess you just really can't.
[00:58:52]  Well, they want to keep that kind of stuff secret.
[00:58:55]  You know, you don't tell everyone the type of weapons that you have.
[00:58:57]  Because you can't just tell the American citizenry.
[00:58:59]  You can either tell the world or tell no one.
[00:59:00]  Yeah.
[00:59:01]  And that's why they tell no one.
[00:59:03]  You know, because I mean, look what happened in Venezuela.
[00:59:06]  There was all kinds of technology that the average citizen didn't know the US had when they went in there, you know.
[00:59:12]  Yeah, I wonder if this is just a PSYAP, it's a lie.
[00:59:15]  We actually do have it, it's American technology.
[00:59:17]  But it's the chimeras I'm interested in because I think those are real.
[00:59:20]  Human animal hybrids, Alex Jones has been talking about this for like 20, 30 years, long, long time.
[00:59:24]  Maybe they're genetically modifying people to be able to handle cosmic rays because they're like, they don't know how to get.
[00:59:30]  Who's they?
[00:59:30]  I feel like the government's not run efficiently enough to do something like this or pull something like this off.
[00:59:34]  Say it again.
[00:59:35]  If the private sector can't figure it out, the government is so inefficient, who's they?
[00:59:39]  Say it again.
[00:59:40]  Oh, really?
[00:59:43]  Well, there's a country in the Middle East that just get involved with Qatar.
[00:59:47]  It was Qatar all along.
[00:59:48]  I knew it.
[00:59:49]  It's Kuwait.
[00:59:49]  It's Bahrain.
[00:59:50]  It's Kuwait.
[00:59:51]  I think Bahrain.
[00:59:52]  Corporations, like deep seated military tech corporations that have super advanced quantum AI and stuff that we don't even know exist that are contracted by the government.
[01:00:01]  I think our government is so inefficient and so slow that there's just no way.
[01:00:07]  I really don't believe that.
[01:00:08]  I think what Phil brought up in that Venezuela operation is when Americans found out.
[01:00:12]  Holy crap.
[01:00:13]  The U.S. government has like that Havana syndrome.
[01:00:15]  I remember when that story came out a couple years ago in 60 Minutes, I was like, this is a PSYOP story.
[01:00:19]  But then it actually came out that, yeah, the U.S. now has possession of it.
[01:00:23]  So I think it's fair to say that the U.S. Discombobulator?
[01:00:25]  Yeah.
[01:00:26]  I love the name.
[01:00:28]  I think it's also fair to say that, you know, just because, you know, the U.S. hasn't, just because we saw those weapons doesn't mean that the U.S. doesn't have other things that we're totally unaware of, you know, haven't used yet.
[01:00:41]  The U.S. has cancer guns, right?
[01:00:45]  They can give you cancer from like.
[01:00:47]  I'm not going to get into details of how they do it because this story is well known in the public where a guy accidentally or intentionally made one of these things.
[01:00:55]  But they can make directional radiation, directed energy weapons.
[01:01:00]  They can literally point a weapon at you, and while you're sitting there eating food at a restaurant, blast you with ionizing radiation that will rip your internal organs to shreds.
[01:01:10]  And that's old, old tech.
[01:01:12]  Screw up your mind.
[01:01:13]  That's like a hundred year old technology.
[01:01:15]  You'll have leukemia in a week.
[01:01:17]  Yeah, there was this story.
[01:01:19]  That went super viral because of 4chan.
[01:01:21]  4chan found a Facebook profile from some woman and she was making an insane amount of posts.
[01:01:26]  The posts were all just incoherent rambling.
[01:01:29]  Like paragraphs, it would say something like, I went to the gym today, but I forgot my oatmeal spoon and the dog that ran past me was yelping.
[01:01:37]  So I went outside to take a look at the rainbow, but the rainbow was actually pointed down and I couldn't actually see the sewer.
[01:01:43]  And people are like, What is this?
[01:01:44]  It's like incoherent nonsense.
[01:01:47]  And there were a few theories.
[01:01:49]  One was that.
[01:01:50]  The profile existed as a means for covert agents to communicate in a coded language that no one would know how to find it.
[01:01:57]  So think about it.
[01:01:58]  It's kind of crazy.
[01:01:59]  If you're a spy working for a foreign government and you're in a country and you need to communicate with your handlers, you pull up, you need to receive orders, for instance.
[01:02:06]  You go to Facebook, you just browse in Facebook, you read a Facebook post.
[01:02:11]  How are they going to know that the post that you were serving on Facebook was the message?
[01:02:15]  And so you see this coded language.
[01:02:17]  But the craziest theory.
[01:02:20]  Some claimed this woman worked for Canadian intelligence, the Canadian government at some point.
[01:02:25]  And then abruptly her career ended.
[01:02:28]  And the conspiracy theory was when they burn a spy, they need to, like, if so, burning a spy is basically we're cutting you off, you're done.
[01:02:38]  If they don't want to kill you or killing you could cause an incident, a scene, or draw attention, they induce psychosis with a drug cocktail.
[01:02:48]  So they'll break into your house, pin you down, inject you.
[01:02:51]  And fry your brain.
[01:02:52]  And so she's sitting there typing out what she thinks is this is what they did to me, but all it is is incoherent babbling about nonsense.
[01:03:01]  Or she's schizophrenic.
[01:03:03]  That's true too.
[01:03:05]  Always a possibility, but not nearly as fun.
[01:03:06]  Yeah.
[01:03:07]  Just kind of mundane.
[01:03:08]  Yeah.
[01:03:08]  But wouldn't that be exactly how you dispose of a spy that you could not take out?
[01:03:13]  If there was an individual that worked in Intel and they said, listen, we can't take this person out because it would cause a scene, people would find out.
[01:03:20]  So what do you do?
[01:03:21]  Induce psychosis, make them just another crazy person who can't explain anything.
[01:03:27]  And then they're grabbing Ian in their mind.
[01:03:30]  They're saying they have biological weapons they're going to unleash and it's going to be unleashed in 2020.
[01:03:34]  I'm warning you.
[01:03:35]  Ian's sitting there and hears banana, oatmeal spoon, dogs, dog saliva.
[01:03:40]  And Ian's like, this person's crazy.
[01:03:44]  Ian would totally be like, I get it, man.
[01:03:46]  I'm right there with you.
[01:03:48]  You're speaking my language, brother.
[01:03:50]  I feel you.
[01:03:51]  Hell yeah.
[01:03:52]  Ian's the one person who can translate psychosis language to English.
[01:03:56]  And then the handlers are like, wait, what's happening?
[01:03:59]  And then Ian starts writing down everything she's saying, but perfect translation.
[01:04:03]  How is he doing this?
[01:04:05]  Psycho babble.
[01:04:06]  Ian's like, I learned how to speak psychobabble after my fifth DMT trip.
[01:04:10]  Well, Tim, there's one story of that one journalist who followed the Charles Manson story.
[01:04:16]  Charles Manson?
[01:04:17]  Yeah, Charles Manson.
[01:04:18]  And I guess when he was working that story, he found the MKUltra and instances where, like, U.S. military service members who had clean records throughout their whole lives all of a sudden were found with the psychosis.
[01:04:30]  I believe one airman ended up sexually assaulting a young girl, even though he had no criminal history, no recollection.
[01:04:36]  And I think it's kind of maybe connected to a little bit of that the whole MKUltra and LSD.
[01:04:43]  You know what I mean?
[01:04:44]  When there's individuals, like Tim said, where you can't take out because it costs too much of a scene or there's too much connected to that story, this is kind of a way to flip that individual.
[01:04:51]  I'm sorry.

=== Colloidal Gold And Trace Minerals (05:17) ===

[01:04:52]  I think it's all just greater earth.
[01:04:53]  You guys, we've talked about this before.
[01:04:55]  I talked about it earlier today.
[01:04:56]  You know what greater earth theory is?
[01:04:57]  No.
[01:04:58]  I love it.
[01:04:58]  It's one of my favorite conspiracy theories.
[01:05:00]  The idea is that the ice wall is a real thing, but the earth isn't flat.
[01:05:04]  The earth is actually massive, and the seven continents we know are surrounded by a giant ring of ice where the great nations of Tartaria and Atlantis use us as slave labor to mine gold.
[01:05:15]  I do know this.
[01:05:16]  Yeah.
[01:05:16]  So, Earth is round and we are just slaves.
[01:05:21]  And the reason why, as Harry Tunman said, I freed many slaves.
[01:05:23]  I would have freed many more if only they knew they were slaves.
[01:05:27]  If you want to have an effective slave population, they can't know they're slaves.
[01:05:30]  They have to think they're free.
[01:05:31]  So we are basically just chickens in a chicken coop doing manual labor and mining gold for the great nations that are immortal, that fly around and can do whatever they want whenever they want.
[01:05:40]  That's why you got to eat gold.
[01:05:42]  They'll be like, hey, don't sample the product, man.
[01:05:44]  And you'll be like, don't sample the product.
[01:05:46]  This one's free.
[01:05:47]  You got to drink gold slogger, right?
[01:05:48]  Well, I do monoatomic gold.
[01:05:50]  It's suspended in water.
[01:05:51]  Yeah.
[01:05:51]  And it's like one part per second.
[01:05:53]  And what does it do?
[01:05:54]  Well, I've heard that it goes through the blood brain barrier.
[01:05:56]  It coats the neurons.
[01:05:57]  It goes through the blood brain barrier?
[01:05:59]  It coats the neurons and makes them superconduct.
[01:06:01]  So it's really good for that.
[01:06:02]  From what I noticed when I was stretching, it would feel like when I would go to tear a muscle because I was stretching too far, it would seep into the muscle and fill it like clay.
[01:06:11]  And I could stretch super far when I had gold in my system.
[01:06:15]  And then my pee was gold.
[01:06:16]  And I drank so much that my voice started to rust.
[01:06:19]  I was like, all right, you got to go easy.
[01:06:20]  What?
[01:06:20]  It's great content.
[01:06:21]  It's great content.
[01:06:22]  I was like, why do I sound so rusty?
[01:06:26]  It sounds so rusty.
[01:06:27]  It's rusty.
[01:06:29]  Bro, gold doesn't oxidize.
[01:06:30]  No, it doesn't go deep.
[01:06:32]  It's awesome.
[01:06:33]  It just inertly passes through your system.
[01:06:35]  It doesn't.
[01:06:36]  I don't care what he believes.
[01:06:37]  Let him believe it.
[01:06:37]  Check monoatomic gold.
[01:06:38]  It's way funner when he believes it.
[01:06:39]  All right, let me read this.
[01:06:40]  There's no credible scientific evidence that monoatomic gold exists as described or produces these effects.
[01:06:46]  Gold is a metal that normally forms clusters or nanoparticles, not stable, isolated single atoms in the way it claimed.
[01:06:52]  True monoatomic elements are limited to noble gases like helium or argon.
[01:06:56]  Claims of orbitally rearranged states or 44% mass disappearance during production lack an imminent verification.
[01:07:03]  Let's see.
[01:07:03]  Metallic or colloidal gold is chemically inert in the body, it passes through the digestive system largely unchanged.
[01:07:09]  It's not absorbed into the bloodstream or brain in meaningful amounts.
[01:07:13]  It has no known biological role or superconducting effect inside cells.
[01:07:17]  Yeah, that's colloidal, meaning it's two or more gold atoms.
[01:07:22]  Monoatomic, from what I'm told, it will go through.
[01:07:25]  I don't know if it's true or not.
[01:07:26]  I haven't been able to do the tests.
[01:07:28]  Colloidal is easier to get.
[01:07:29]  I have tried it, at least in the past.
[01:07:31]  So you don't know what it does.
[01:07:33]  I'm the test subject.
[01:07:33]  I'm a shaman.
[01:07:34]  I'll try a little bit here and there to see.
[01:07:36]  But a guy told me to do it.
[01:07:37]  And I was like, I'm into colloidal metals.
[01:07:39]  They mine so much gold out of the earth that we don't have it in our diet anymore.
[01:07:42]  So we get our iron.
[01:07:43]  What kind of guy?
[01:07:44]  You get like trace minerals and elements.
[01:07:46]  Bro.
[01:07:47]  We're missing gold.
[01:07:48]  I watched this.
[01:07:49]  They touch it to their skin because it goes through your skin like gold crowns and rings.
[01:07:53]  I watched the best baking video ever.
[01:07:57]  It was a guy making modern American bread, and it's disgusting.
[01:08:02]  This is like a turn.
[01:08:03]  Hold on.
[01:08:03]  No, no, no, no.
[01:08:06]  To make modern American bread, it's a whole bunch of insane chemicals.
[01:08:09]  You don't even know what it is.
[01:08:10]  Oh, God.
[01:08:10]  And he's mixing weird, disgusting things.
[01:08:13]  He's like, he took.
[01:08:14]  Poisoning us.
[01:08:14]  He took flour and he's like, now we have to bleach the flour with chlorine gas.
[01:08:18]  And he takes flour and he pumps chlorine gas into it and it turns white.
[01:08:22]  It's nasty.
[01:08:23]  He's mixing all the weird garbage into it.
[01:08:25]  And I'm like, this is what you're eating.
[01:08:28]  That's disgusting.
[01:08:29]  I don't want to eat it.
[01:08:30]  So, anyway, the point, the reason I bring this up is because what reminded me of it is he says after we bleach the flour, we have to add vitamins to it because all the vitamins have been stripped from the earth.
[01:08:39]  Oh, very.
[01:08:40]  Wheat used to have vitamins in it and you'd eat it.
[01:08:42]  And then this guy who, Norman Borlaug is his name, and he's the perfect example of like a goody two shoes communist.
[01:08:51]  So, he's not a communist.
[01:08:52]  What he did was he did selective breeding to quadruple crop yield for wheat.
[01:08:58]  And what this did was maximize starch production.
[01:09:01]  Allowing more people to have access to food, but the amount of nutrients and minerals remained static for the area where the crops were being grown.
[01:09:08]  Thus, we now have large populations of nutritionally devoid, morbidly obese people.
[01:09:14]  And he's heralded as like a great man who saved billions of lives by creating this crop yield, expanding it.
[01:09:19]  But in reality, it just made food worse.
[01:09:22]  Yeah, like growth at what cost?
[01:09:24]  I get into the need.
[01:09:24]  All the rare earth metals like iridium, rhodium, platinum, palladium, you can eat them because they used to be in the soil pretty, you know, and then the humans mined a lot of it out, so you don't get it.
[01:09:35]  But I don't know.
[01:09:36]  You know, the FDA hasn't like come out and been like, you gotta get your colloidal gold, but there's a lot of people that talk about metals.
[01:09:42]  And I've noticed like.
[01:09:43]  I want to try, bro.
[01:09:44]  It's gonna help me with my stretching.
[01:09:45]  Yeah, iridium and ruthenium.
[01:09:47]  I'm gonna try this out of taco.
[01:09:49]  Phil's rocking.
[01:09:50]  Phil's rocking.
[01:09:51]  The golden taco, man.
[01:09:52]  I got manic when I was taking gold.
[01:09:53]  I wanted to give it to people.
[01:09:54]  I'd like buy people colloidal gold, and I'm like, you gotta try this.
[01:09:57]  It's so good for you.
[01:09:58]  But I went a little crazy because I was so into it.
[01:10:01]  But see, the other ones like iridium and ruthenium, I think, repair your DNA.
[01:10:04]  I could be wrong, but if you read about each of these, give me that manly voice, bro.
[01:10:07]  Give me more manly voice, little.

=== Anti-Capitalist Pro-Communist Agenda (15:19) ===

[01:10:09]  Gold?
[01:10:09]  Yeah.
[01:10:09]  No, it made it horny.
[01:10:10]  It made it go like, sound like it was rusting like this, kind of a little more.
[01:10:13]  Oh, then it took like a couple days.
[01:10:15]  And I think that's just a placebo effect.
[01:10:16]  I think you did that.
[01:10:17]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:10:18]  The pee was gold, dude.
[01:10:19]  It was like, whoa.
[01:10:21]  My toilet bowl is like gold.
[01:10:22]  I had a friend once and we were going for a job interview and he was a big pothead.
[01:10:27]  So he bought one of those cleanses where you'd slam it and then like a week later they claim you'll pass your test or whatever.
[01:10:33]  But he slammed it like a day before the drug test.
[01:10:37]  And so we went in for the P test, and I don't smoke or do any drugs, so I didn't care.
[01:10:43]  But he said that his piss was neon green, and they looked at him, and he was like, I drink a lot of Mountain Dew.
[01:10:49]  And they just like rolled their eyes because all that means is you have high B vitamins, and that was it.
[01:10:54]  But he like didn't understand that.
[01:10:56]  So let's jump to this next story.
[01:10:59]  This is an old article from Bounding into Comics Angel Studios and Andy Circus face criticism for Animal Farm cast and comedic tone.
[01:11:07]  Well, Some news has occurred and it involves me, and I think it's worth talking about.
[01:11:13]  The first thing I'm going to say is they have announced the date for the release of this pro communist film, Animal Farm.
[01:11:20]  Unreal.
[01:11:21]  And we had been asked to read ads for it on this show.
[01:11:24]  Now, I'm a huge fan of Angel Studios.
[01:11:26]  They do a lot of really great work.
[01:11:28]  Not everything they do is perfect, but that's okay.
[01:11:31]  And their members saw this film and voted to purchase it for distribution because it's Animal Farm.
[01:11:39]  For those that aren't familiar, I assume most of you are, it's the classic George Orwell novel.
[01:11:42]  That is an allegory for the Bolshevik Revolution and how communists are bad.
[01:11:46]  The story is wholly just about how communists are bad, and that's about it.
[01:11:51]  This film is an anti capitalist film that is actually pro communist, or at least I would call it like pro agenda 2030, pro WEF, the whole stakeholders, you will own nothing and be happy kind of mentality.
[01:12:04]  And what happened was when the trailer was released several months ago, it was heavily criticized by everybody, hence this article, because the trailer shows there's a new villain.
[01:12:15]  Elon Musk's mom driving a cyber truck.
[01:12:17]  Not an exaggeration.
[01:12:18]  Literally, Elon Musk's mom.
[01:12:20]  What?
[01:12:21]  Elon Musk's mom is the villain.
[01:12:22]  It's not even a joke.
[01:12:24]  Her name's not Mae Musk.
[01:12:25]  No.
[01:12:25]  Shout out to Mae Musk.
[01:12:26]  It's Pilkington's mom.
[01:12:27]  Guys, shout out.
[01:12:28]  She's great.
[01:12:28]  She's been put through hell.
[01:12:30]  Take a look at Pilkington, the character in the trailer, and take a look at Mae Musk.
[01:12:34]  It's a cartoon version of her.
[01:12:36]  She's driving a cyber truck.
[01:12:38]  That's.
[01:12:39]  I'm just.
[01:12:40]  It's literally a cyber truck.
[01:12:41]  It's got wheel wells on it, but we all know what they were going for.
[01:12:45]  The film is.
[01:12:46]  Explicitly anti capitalist.
[01:12:49]  And so, following the criticism, I critiqued it.
[01:12:54]  So, I shouldn't say following the criticism, but everyone critiqued it, including myself.
[01:12:58]  So, they reached out to our ad team to buy ads, which I respect.
[01:13:03]  And we've done ads, we've promoted for them before.
[01:13:06]  And this one, the script was basically like, you know, make this in your own words.
[01:13:11]  Here's what we want Tim to effectively explain.
[01:13:14]  What they wanted me to do was to say that I was wrong for critiquing the film before seeing it.
[01:13:18]  And to be a little bit self deprecating, and then tell people that I did see it and that the movie is actually good.
[01:13:26]  They sent me a screener to watch before the ad.
[01:13:29]  So it's somewhat above board.
[01:13:32]  I say somewhat because they knew that I was critical of the trailer.
[01:13:36]  And I suppose their view was if Tim sees the film, he'll change his mind.
[01:13:40]  So let's ask him to watch the film and then he'll change his mind and then we'll pay him to do it.
[01:13:44]  Did you?
[01:13:44]  No, I watched the film and in the first five minutes, I turned it off.
[01:13:50]  I was.
[01:13:51]  Insanely offended that they would even suggest my mind would be changed from watching this.
[01:13:58]  I immediately messaged Callan, our producer, and you know, he runs all the ads and all the production.
[01:14:02]  I said, Bro, we can't, I can't do this.
[01:14:04]  It is nuts.
[01:14:04]  I was like, I can't even make it five minutes.
[01:14:06]  It's so thick, the anti capitalism.
[01:14:09]  And so I said, You know, no, I'm gonna finish it.
[01:14:12]  Turned it back on, finished the movie.
[01:14:16]  Holy crap.
[01:14:17]  It's pro communism entirely, and it's wholly anti capitalism.
[01:14:22]  I don't want to spoil any of the movie bits, so I'll keep it for the most part to things you may have seen from the trailer.
[01:14:28]  But I will just say this The main villain is Elon Musk's mom, a corporatist, and the motivations behind the bad guys are finance, financially related.
[01:14:39]  The exploitation is not communist related, it is monetary and capitalist.
[01:14:44]  The struggles the animals face are based on monetary policy and not.
[01:14:48]  Communist political revolution.
[01:14:50]  It is entirely.
[01:14:52]  The movie starts with a critique of banking and finance and capital.
[01:14:58]  And one of the antagonists is working for the bank.
[01:15:04]  And the main villain is a corporatist who's trying to buy everything.
[01:15:08]  The pigs are effectively henchmen.
[01:15:11]  And I will just say that the ending is just bonkers insane.
[01:15:18]  It's not family friendly.
[01:15:20]  Not absolutely not.
[01:15:21]  This is not a movie for kids.
[01:15:24]  There's elements of leftist terrorism in it.
[01:15:27]  And I would argue that the message is capital structures are inherently bad and you must kill everyone to accomplish your goals of freeing the people from their oppression.
[01:15:38]  And I'm like, yeah, that's all just literally Marxist garbage.
[01:15:41]  I read this in 2003.
[01:15:44]  And so it's been a long time, but I remember the villain was the main pig in the book.
[01:15:49]  Yeah, not in the movie.
[01:15:50]  Uh, the farmer, it was sort of like it shows you the danger of capitalism in the very beginning because the farmer has become like this monarch, and they're like, they've had enough, he's mismanaging the farm, they chase him off the farm.
[01:16:01]  So, like, okay, we get it, there are problems with capitalism.
[01:16:03]  And then the communism starts to seep in the vanguardism, and the whole thing's about the internal struggle of the farm.
[01:16:09]  There's very little external force of capital in that.
[01:16:12]  Oh, bro, but you started by saying that the farmer is a monarch, he was like the yeah, it's like the capitalist monarch, you know, the corporatist, and it's like, but that's not the beginning of the book, they kick him out right away, yes, but he's not a capitalist.
[01:16:23]  He's the owner.
[01:16:24]  Yeah, he's the owner.
[01:16:25]  He rules over the farm and he's a drunkard who forgets to feed the animals and generally mistreats them.
[01:16:30]  So they have a revolt against him and take over.
[01:16:32]  Yeah.
[01:16:32]  Not in the movie.
[01:16:33]  The monarch thing went over his head.
[01:16:34]  Bro, I don't want to spoil parts of the movie, but let me just say Farmer Jones in the film is actually a victim of capitalism.
[01:16:43]  He is portrayed as a victim of capital.
[01:16:45]  No, he was a victim of his own infertility, I think.
[01:16:49]  It's really amazing how they are trying to trick people.
[01:16:53]  I think the film, not necessarily the Angel Studios.
[01:16:56]  Here's my genuine thought.
[01:16:57]  On what happened.
[01:16:58]  I could be wrong.
[01:16:59]  Well, the Harmon Brothers, founders of Angel, have asked to come on and talk about this.
[01:17:04]  I said, absolutely, because we're fans.
[01:17:06]  They've done great work in the past.
[01:17:07]  I think this was just a flub.
[01:17:09]  And here's what I think happened I think that.
[01:17:13]  Hollywood produces an Animal Farm movie with the explicit intention to trick families into bringing their kids into a pro communist film and destroying the message of Animal Farm.
[01:17:23]  I believe that this production is so thick, the anti capitalism, like they're hitting you over the head with it.
[01:17:30]  It's just screaming.
[01:17:31]  With Elon Musk's mom as the villain driving a cybertruck.
[01:17:33]  I mean, dude, it's just so overt.
[01:17:35]  There's things, again, I don't want to spoil it because the movie's not out, and I wasn't asked to do a strong review of it.
[01:17:39]  I think Hollywood said, how do we make kids communist?
[01:17:43]  Well, first, we destroy the culture of America.
[01:17:46]  George Orwell was not by any means a strong capitalist, but he did criticize the Bolshevik Revolution and communism masterfully.
[01:17:53]  Let's destroy that cultural work, make a film which should supplant the movie.
[01:17:58]  I'm sorry, supplant the book, and we'll change the narrative, keeping some of the key story elements, but making it explicitly anti capital instead.
[01:18:07]  I think that Angel Studios gets word that Animal Farm is being adapted, and it's got a bunch of A list of celebrities, and they think, Anti communist story right up our alley.
[01:18:17]  A listers, let's acquire the rights.
[01:18:19]  The Angel Studios members, according to them, said that they approved it.
[01:18:24]  I think that at the head of the higher ups, I don't think they watched the movie before they acquired it.
[01:18:32]  Again, just my opinion, I'm probably wrong, but it seems to me like what really happened, and again, maybe not the case.
[01:18:38]  I don't want to say I know for sure.
[01:18:41]  When they heard that Animal Farm was going to be available, they were like, we have to have this.
[01:18:45]  So they bid on it without understanding or seeing the full film.
[01:18:49]  Once they acquired it and committed massive amounts of money to the distribution and contractually obligated, then they learned everyone's like, this is pro communism.
[01:18:57]  And then they're like, crap, what do we do?
[01:19:00]  You got a distribution contract for a big film.
[01:19:02]  You purchased it.
[01:19:02]  You're going to lose money if you don't.
[01:19:04]  And depending on how the contract is structured, you could be in breach if you don't distribute it properly because you've agreed to do that.
[01:19:10]  So I wonder if what actually happened is they know full well, and that's why they reframed it as anti cronyism.
[01:19:17]  That's what Angel Studios has been calling it.
[01:19:19]  Oh, it's anti cronyism because the capitalist structures are actually not really capitalist.
[01:19:24]  They're, you know, monopolies.
[01:19:26]  They're cronyist.
[01:19:27]  No, government never plays a role in this whatsoever.
[01:19:30]  Not one time does anything with government happen where the government teams up with corporations.
[01:19:36]  In fact, wholly, the whole thing is more so a critique of private equity structures.
[01:19:41]  I will put it like this In the book, the pigs are communist revolutionaries.
[01:19:45]  They tell everybody we're equal.
[01:19:47]  Nope.
[01:19:47]  In the movie, there's a pig who says everybody who's equal.
[01:19:51]  And this is in the book, too, by the way, so I don't consider it a spoiler.
[01:19:54]  Snowball gets cast out.
[01:19:56]  Snowball is the true.
[01:19:57]  It's my hero, dude.
[01:19:58]  Yeah, Snowball is the true revolutionary, and Napoleon is the power hungry.
[01:20:03]  The movie is basically Snowball says, We're all equal.
[01:20:05]  And Napoleon's like, No, we're not.
[01:20:06]  And then basically, he private equities the farm.
[01:20:09]  So, not spoiling anything, but instead of it being about a communist revolutionary where the dictator takes over to steal everything, this movie is about some people who start a private equity firm.
[01:20:20]  And that's the.
[01:20:23]  That's what the story's about.
[01:20:24]  And there's a big, shocking leftist terror attack.
[01:20:29]  And, you know, I don't want to say too much.
[01:20:32]  A lot of death, a lot of murder.
[01:20:34]  Sadness.
[01:20:36]  No, they're not sad.
[01:20:37]  Boxer works pretty hard.
[01:20:39]  Boxer, the big horse.
[01:20:41]  Yeah.
[01:20:42]  Sad story.
[01:20:43]  Is there suffering?
[01:20:44]  Is the suffering highlighted?
[01:20:45]  Nope.
[01:20:48]  They don't really highlight any suffering at all.
[01:20:51]  In fact, it's more like.
[01:20:53]  So it's a lie.
[01:20:54]  Is there anything about it?
[01:20:55]  I'm going to spoil a little bit.
[01:20:57]  I have to spoil just a little bit.
[01:20:58]  Wait.
[01:20:58]  The critique of the film.
[01:20:59]  Never mind.
[01:21:00]  Just do it.
[01:21:00]  The critique of the film is that the animals are working and the pigs are taking a profit and going to the mall with it.
[01:21:06]  And the animals are upset that the pigs are using the excess revenue for.
[01:21:11]  They're using the profit to enrich themselves, which I suppose the argument is well, that's what the communists do, but that's not what the film is about.
[01:21:18]  The film is literally like, the endos being like, we're doing all the work, but they're taking the profit from us.
[01:21:23]  And I'm like, oh my God.
[01:21:26]  It is explicit, explicitly.
[01:21:29]  And the ending is basically the fake, the new characters that are added to the movie that are not in the books are basically, they may as well end the film by saying, well, we own nothing, but now we'll all be happy.
[01:21:42]  That's basically the conclusion.
[01:21:43]  And I'm like, dude, Angel Studios.
[01:21:48]  Drop the ball in this one big time.
[01:21:50]  You know, and a lot of people are saying they're canceling their memberships and all that stuff.
[01:21:53]  I think that's silly.
[01:21:54]  You're going to cancel your subscription to Angel Studios because they bought a bad film.
[01:21:57]  But I don't know how you navigate out of this one.
[01:22:01]  Like, bro, you got a pro communist film that's taking a dump all over the original book.
[01:22:06]  It is brutal.
[01:22:08]  Yeah, I don't understand.
[01:22:09]  Well, I mean, actually, I do understand it's subversion, which is something that the left loves to do.
[01:22:14]  They love to take something that is intended.
[01:22:19]  To criticize the left or something that the population of a country holds dear and then subvert it and in some way convince the people that no, actually, this thing that you loved, it's about us.
[01:22:33]  And it's something that we, it represents our values and not your own.
[01:22:38]  You know what?
[01:22:38]  I'll say this.
[01:22:39]  I'm not going to spoil the film because there are unique elements that are not in the book that people may want to see.
[01:22:45]  But on the uncensored portion of the show, I'll give the minorest of details.
[01:22:50]  There are things that I can tell you based off what you've seen in the trailer that I can add more context to.
[01:22:54]  But for the sake of not trying to just spoil the whole thing, I guess I can say this.
[01:23:00]  The Uncensored Cho will be at 10.
[01:23:02]  I'll give a little bit more detail, but I won't spoil any major plot points.
[01:23:06]  I will just say for now, the plot is so dramatically different, I could spoil it.
[01:23:11]  That's one of the issues, right?
[01:23:13]  If this was just an adaptation of the book, I'd be like, what can I say?
[01:23:15]  It's the book.
[01:23:16]  You've seen the book.
[01:23:17]  The book's 100 years old or whatever.
[01:23:18]  I don't know.
[01:23:19]  Like, I could tell you literally what the book's about, and the movie's the same.
[01:23:22]  Nope, they are 20%, maybe?
[01:23:26]  Freaking terrifying, dude, that they got Seth Rogen to headline.
[01:23:29]  That's not terrifying.
[01:23:30]  That's Seth Rogen, of course.
[01:23:32]  The movie's called Animal Farm, and it's not Animal Farm.
[01:23:34]  It is not Animal Farm.
[01:23:35]  It's not.
[01:23:36]  Dude, it is so wild.
[01:23:38]  I didn't know that Seth Rogen was involved in it.
[01:23:40]  He plays the main villain, he plays Napoleon.
[01:23:43]  It's not a surprise once you.
[01:23:44]  Bro, you cannot bring your kids to see this movie.
[01:23:46]  When you see the trailer, it looks like it's for kids.
[01:23:48]  It's a cartoon.
[01:23:49]  Oh, it's not.
[01:23:51]  The trailer looks like pigs falling over each other.
[01:23:53]  I think this is fair to say there's murder in it.
[01:23:55]  That's crazy.
[01:23:56]  It looks like a kid's name from the private.
[01:23:58]  I will say this.
[01:23:59]  I will say this.
[01:24:01]  Obviously, in Animal Farm, Boxer the horse, what happens?
[01:24:05]  He gets injured and then Napoleon sends him to a glue factory.
[01:24:08]  Yeah.
[01:24:09]  That's in the book.
[01:24:09]  That's like near the end.
[01:24:11]  So, obviously, something to that effect is in the movie.
[01:24:16]  It's just done in a very different way.
[01:24:19]  Oh, boy.
[01:24:19]  Very different way.
[01:24:20]  And yeah, I will add there the Elon Musk's mom arc.
[01:24:27]  It's just so wild.
[01:24:28]  They have her kind of like Cruella Deville.
[01:24:31]  She kind of like walks like that, like she's going to throw shade.
[01:24:33]  You know, there's a lot of murder in the film that I think is not appropriate for families.
[01:24:39]  What's it rated?
[01:24:41]  You know, I think it's PG 13.
[01:24:43]  Read communist.
[01:24:44]  I would put it like this.
[01:24:47]  You know, I mean, to be fair, my daughter is only a year old, so she's not watching any movies anytime soon.
[01:24:53]  But I wouldn't bring a seven year old to see it.
[01:24:55]  I wouldn't bring an eight year old.
[01:24:57]  Nah.
[01:24:57]  My brain wasn't ready for Animal Farm until I was 20.
[01:25:00]  To be fair, considering it's pro communist, I would never bring my family to see it.
[01:25:03]  But I will say this just of the violence elements, Peachy 13.
[01:25:07]  Well?
[01:25:09]  Yeah.
[01:25:10]  Like in cartoon violence, I think is fine for kids under 13.
[01:25:15]  You know, like Bugs Bunny bopping a guy in the head and he gets a, you know, whoop, a bup comes up.
[01:25:19]  I don't really care all that much about Looney Tunes kind of violence.
[01:25:22]  But this is more like it's murder, you know?
[01:25:28]  Horrible.

=== Mel Gibson Massacres Redcoats (16:07) ===

[01:25:29]  Yeah.
[01:25:30]  I just, I'm like, I don't think that's appropriate for children.
[01:25:33]  There's such a big push on the left of pushing towards this like democratic socialism, which is no different to communism.
[01:25:40]  And so there are these, there's money and power that is pushing this communist idea because they know that that's what it eventually leads to.
[01:25:48]  They just hope that the child looks too stupid.
[01:25:50]  Orwell, was Orwell a democratic socialist?
[01:25:51]  He started out as a socialist and then he saw what happened in.
[01:25:57]  Road to Wigan Pier, one of the books he followed the coal miners around.
[01:26:01]  He's like, they just hate the poor.
[01:26:02]  Yeah, but he said.
[01:26:04]  Like, the Animal Farm was actually a critique of the Soviet Union.
[01:26:10]  Yeah, it was Stalin and Trotsky, I believe, were specifically the allegories of the pigs.
[01:26:15]  And what I will say is a major character from the book is not even in the movie at all, which is.
[01:26:22]  And yeah, I think, I mean, I have to say this because if you're expecting to see Old Major in the film, it doesn't exist.
[01:26:29]  And that was supposed to be an allegory to Lenin, I believe, in Animal Farm.
[01:26:33]  Who is Old Major?
[01:26:34]  Is he a donkey?
[01:26:36]  God, I haven't read that book in so long.
[01:26:38]  Old Major, do you?
[01:26:38]  It's been a minute.
[01:26:39]  I think Stalin poisoned Lenin and took power.
[01:26:42]  I can't prove it, but it just seems like Lenin got real sick real fast, and then Stalin was standing over his shoulder, like waiting.
[01:26:47]  He's the prize winning boar.
[01:26:49]  Yeah, the oldest and wisest.
[01:26:50]  Old Major.
[01:26:51]  He's meant to represent Lenin or Mark.
[01:26:53]  You've got to read that book.
[01:26:55]  It's 100 pages.
[01:26:56]  You can read it in an evening.
[01:26:58]  I think that's fair to say.
[01:26:59]  I don't consider that a spoiler because there may be people who are like, oh, I can't wait to see this part of the story.
[01:27:03]  It doesn't exist.
[01:27:06]  Inconvenient.
[01:27:07]  Inconvenient truth.
[01:27:08]  I don't know if it's a spoiler to say if something's not in the film.
[01:27:11]  Do you guys consider that?
[01:27:13]  I don't think our audience is going to be watching it after this review.
[01:27:17]  Well, yeah, but it's not just that.
[01:27:18]  It's about at least giving a modicum of respect to Angel Studios and not saying I'm going to ruin this project.
[01:27:23]  I think saying.
[01:27:24]  Just because I didn't like it and I was a Offended by doesn't mean I should take that away from a company that is offering a product to people they can choose to see or not.
[01:27:30]  I don't know.
[01:27:31]  It's, it's, I was not, I was not asked to reveal story elements.
[01:27:34]  I was not given a screener so that I could expose what the story is about.
[01:27:37]  And I would, I don't want to do that to Angel Studios.
[01:27:39]  If people really want to see for themselves and learn, fine.
[01:27:41]  If they reached out to me and said, Tim, here's a screener, please give a review of the story, spoilers are fine, then I would do it.
[01:27:47]  But I think it's fair to say if a character is not in the film, that is an important point to bring up because people might be going to this film expecting it to be a one for one adaptation of Animal Farm.
[01:27:57]  It is a completely different movie.
[01:27:59]  It is a completely different movie.
[01:28:00]  And the reason why I'm saying I won't spoil it is because I could.
[01:28:04]  Like, it is so different from the book.
[01:28:06]  I would have to spoil a new script unrelated to Animal Farm.
[01:28:10]  I thought Jurassic Park, the movie, really downplayed Muldoon.
[01:28:14]  He was my favorite character in the book.
[01:28:16]  Wasn't the book written after the fact?
[01:28:17]  I was in, I was first, 92, Michael Crichton.
[01:28:20]  I read it in sixth grade.
[01:28:21]  It was phenomenal.
[01:28:21]  Nedri gets his eyes poisoned by the copies.
[01:28:24]  And then he's like, when he's trying to steal the eggs, he gets his stomach ripped open as he can't see it, but he can feel it.
[01:28:30]  It's pretty amazing how the original Jurassic Park story was awesome, but now they just made 15 versions of trash.
[01:28:35]  Yeah, the original was like capitalism, anarchy.
[01:28:38]  It was on an island.
[01:28:39]  It's an interesting sci fi, man.
[01:28:40]  It reads dinosaurs on an island.
[01:28:42]  Yeah, it's fun.
[01:28:43]  And now it's like we just keep doing it.
[01:28:46]  Oh, they need to make a Bioshock movie.
[01:28:48]  Bioshock 1 movie.
[01:28:49]  Bro, I want to watch the Animal Farm.
[01:28:51]  You think they'll send me a screener before they come on the show?
[01:28:54]  I'd like to know what I'm talking about.
[01:28:56]  I don't know what the restrictions are for us.
[01:28:59]  Maybe they might don't mind.
[01:29:00]  The Timcast company was provided a screener for the purposes of doing an ad read.
[01:29:03]  And I respect, I will say this like, I did a review of the film from the trailer.
[01:29:08]  They said, Hey, Tim, please watch the movie and you'll see that you were incorrect.
[01:29:13]  And then we'll have you do ads for it.
[01:29:15]  I'm not upset that they were offering money and saying, We think you'll change your mind.
[01:29:20]  But I absolutely did not change my mind.
[01:29:22]  And I was, it was like, again, I turned it off after five minutes and I was like, I'm not watching this.
[01:29:27]  This is nuts.
[01:29:28]  And then I was like, No, no, no, no.
[01:29:30]  Like, I have to watch it.
[01:29:31]  I have to.
[01:29:31]  And then I watched it and I was just rolling my eyes and scoffing the whole time.
[01:29:36]  And my wife keeps looking.
[01:29:37]  It makes me watch on my phone.
[01:29:38]  She's like, what?
[01:29:39]  What?
[01:29:39]  And I'm like, oh my God.
[01:29:41]  And then it was funny because I was talking to my wife about it and I was like, the villain is Elon Musk's mom.
[01:29:45]  And she's like, I get it.
[01:29:46]  And I'm like, no, it's Elon Musk's mom.
[01:29:49]  And she's like, what does that mean?
[01:29:50]  And I'm like, I am not making a joke.
[01:29:54]  It is not an allegory or a metaphor.
[01:29:57]  I am quite literally telling you the villain is Elon Musk's mom.
[01:30:01]  And she's like, well, they can't do that.
[01:30:04]  They'd get sued.
[01:30:05]  So I pulled a picture of Elon Musk's mom.
[01:30:07]  I said, this is Elon Musk's mom.
[01:30:08]  Then I pulled up the image from the trailer and I said, this is the villain.
[01:30:11]  And she went, How did they get away with that?
[01:30:14]  Because we have to go to our lawyers for all of this stuff on all the merch we make.
[01:30:18]  And I'm like, I don't know.
[01:30:19]  She's driving a cyber truck.
[01:30:21]  By the way, Andy Serkis, who did the story, he's Gollum, yeah?
[01:30:28]  Okay, so this is Gollum's movie?
[01:30:30]  I mean, I think Andy Serkis is a fantastic actor.
[01:30:32]  Awesome.
[01:30:32]  He's exquisite as an actor.
[01:30:34]  Yeah, who did he play in Marvel?
[01:30:37]  The South African guy?
[01:30:38]  I know, but they were just going to have him in the voice, and he was so good.
[01:30:40]  They cast him in the entire movie, Lord of the Rings, because he was so good physically.
[01:30:44]  But that doesn't mean that he knows everything about communism and has.
[01:30:47]  But he was only supposed to be gone one time?
[01:30:49]  They just had him do voices and they were going to animate something.
[01:30:52]  They had him do the voice.
[01:30:53]  But he was so in it while he was doing the voice.
[01:30:55]  Claw.
[01:30:55]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:30:56]  He was Claw in the Marvel movies, and that was an amazing character.
[01:31:01]  Arms smuggler, his arm chopped off by Ultron.
[01:31:03]  I thought he did a fantastic job.
[01:31:04]  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:31:06]  I'm just.
[01:31:06]  Can I please.
[01:31:07]  Can I please?
[01:31:07]  Yeah.
[01:31:07]  No, I didn't know that.
[01:31:10]  He did the motion capture.
[01:31:11]  And it took like this.
[01:31:12]  Yeah.
[01:31:13]  Stupid fat Herbert's.
[01:31:15]  Yeah.
[01:31:15]  We've got to wonderfully defend his work like a PhD student.
[01:31:20]  Look, the Harmon Brothers were saying, like, they've issued a bunch of statements saying it's an anti communist film.
[01:31:26]  Let me show you this, actually.
[01:31:27]  Let me show you this.
[01:31:28]  This is from Newsweek from December.
[01:31:29]  Studio responds to criticism.
[01:31:31]  Here's what Newsweek wrote The adaptation, which took 14 years to complete, looks to examine capitalism and corporate greed as opposed to Soviet era authoritarianism.
[01:31:42]  A spokesperson for Angel Studios told Newsweek, Four facts Angel is the distributor of the film, not its producer, nor with creative control.
[01:31:49]  Angel Guild members viewed the film and voted heavily to support it.
[01:31:53]  While the title is the same as the classic book, updates were made to make it relevant to a broad, value centric, family friendly audience.
[01:32:00]  This is an anti communism film, and the Angel Guild will ensure that it stands by the principles of our members.
[01:32:06]  It is, I would not, it's not for kids, man.
[01:32:08]  Guys, like, a family friendly film is Space Jam, where the stakes are you will be trapped in a video game forever unless you win a game of basketball.
[01:32:18]  Woohoo!
[01:32:18]  And then they're like, oh no.
[01:32:20]  And then, you know, like, What is it?
[01:32:22]  Don Cheadle was a virus or something in the new one.
[01:32:25]  I don't remember.
[01:32:26]  Good for him, though.
[01:32:27]  But the stakes weren't massacre a bunch of corporate employees and, you know, like kill people or anything like that.
[01:32:36]  I keep the political propaganda away from little kids, personally.
[01:32:39]  Oh, no, I disagree.
[01:32:41]  Yeah, if it's anti communist, I'd.
[01:32:43]  Every.
[01:32:45]  I think at 13, I think is the appropriate age for a child to watch The Patriot with Mel Gibson, only because of the blood.
[01:32:50]  Lots of blood.
[01:32:51]  What about Terminator 2?
[01:32:52]  That's not really political, is it?
[01:32:54]  Well, like, how old would a kid be if you were born?
[01:32:56]  13.
[01:32:56]  Yeah.
[01:32:57]  I think at 13 years old, like, PG 13 makes sense, right?
[01:33:01]  Post puberty.
[01:33:01]  Well, they're in that point where they're starting to understand, like, war, conflict.
[01:33:05]  They're starting to be curious and ask questions.
[01:33:08]  Yeah, I think too young, it can fry their brains and freak them out.
[01:33:11]  You know?
[01:33:12]  Yeah.
[01:33:12]  But Mel Gibson's the Patriot.
[01:33:15]  You know, maybe 14 is the best age for it.
[01:33:17]  Maybe 13 is a little young because the Patriots got straight up gore.
[01:33:23]  Like when Mel Gibson just massacres all those Redcoats.
[01:33:26]  His son's like 13 and fights with a rifle.
[01:33:28]  So it'd be cool to show a 13 year old what it used to be like in the colonial times.
[01:33:32]  Dude, when he massacres that whole battalion trying to take his son prisoner, Mel Gibson, dude, that movie's the best movie ever.
[01:33:40]  He's got the top.
[01:33:42]  He has a tomahawk, I think.
[01:33:44]  Yeah.
[01:33:44]  And then he just wipes them all out.
[01:33:47]  And then they've got one injured guy.
[01:33:49]  And then the bad guy is like, How many men did this?
[01:33:52]  He's like, One, sir.
[01:33:53]  And he's like, One man.
[01:33:54]  Well, I'm like, Yes.
[01:33:56]  It's funny because it's such obvious BS.
[01:34:00]  This great American story of the one guy who just takes everybody out.
[01:34:03]  But it's also so American, that ego.
[01:34:05]  It's a superhero story.
[01:34:07]  It is.
[01:34:07]  It is.
[01:34:08]  It is American.
[01:34:09]  And it's like his son gets killed.
[01:34:11]  And so he seeks revenge and he rescues his kid.
[01:34:13]  There's a famous story about a painting from a revolution where it goes something like I'm probably bastardizing this story.
[01:34:20]  Historians probably know better, but it goes something like there was a painting made of a bunch of redcoats in formation firing on a bunch of rebel farmers during the Revolutionary War who were dropping their guns and fleeing.
[01:34:33]  And so this painting was of an actual battle that occurred.
[01:34:38]  Well, someone asked to recommission the painting and said, I would like one for myself of this battle.
[01:34:43]  But.
[01:34:44]  Tone it down a little bit.
[01:34:45]  And so the next version shows some of the militiamen, the Minutemen, fighting back.
[01:34:51]  And then years later, someone says, I would like my own version of this.
[01:34:55]  Well, the new one shows the Minutemen breaking ranks but violently fighting back as the Redcoats advance.
[01:35:02]  Someone asked for another commission.
[01:35:03]  Now it shows the redcoats are a little frazzled and some are being shot.
[01:35:08]  Long story short, after several iterations, it completely flipped to a small handful of valiant minute men firing on frantic and fleeing redcoats, despite it never happening.
[01:35:19]  Because every time it was made, the person who got a commission of this great battle wanted it showing the heroism of the Americans.
[01:35:27]  So we've made this movie where we're like, Mel Gibson is a dad who doesn't want to go to war and votes against it.
[01:35:32]  This is what I love, right?
[01:35:33]  We always talk about the guy at the bar.
[01:35:35]  And there's some dude acting a fool, and he says, Listen, man, I don't want to be involved.
[01:35:38]  And the guy goes, What are you, pussy?
[01:35:40]  And then, like, pours a beer on him, and then gets his ass kicked by the guy who wasn't asking for trouble.
[01:35:45]  And we love that narrative, right?
[01:35:46]  It's a classic Jackie Chan, bro.
[01:35:47]  Yeah.
[01:35:48]  Right.
[01:35:48]  Jackie Chan, bro.
[01:35:49]  But, man, just leave me alone.
[01:35:52]  I don't want to fight.
[01:35:53]  But then when they pick a fight, always save the base.
[01:35:55]  That's a meal.
[01:35:56]  So Mel Gibson is like, I don't want to go to war with England.
[01:35:59]  So he's at home.
[01:36:00]  The British troops show up.
[01:36:01]  He's tending aid.
[01:36:02]  And then the guy's like, kill the prisoners.
[01:36:03]  And he's like, you can't.
[01:36:04]  And he's like, hmm, take his son.
[01:36:06]  And he's like, no.
[01:36:07]  And then his other son tries to save his brother.
[01:36:09]  And the guy shoots him, killing him.
[01:36:10]  And then Mel Gibson is like, I didn't want this war.
[01:36:13]  And then he grabs his guns and he's like, let's go.
[01:36:15]  It's like the perfect American story, you know?
[01:36:18]  The strong man didn't want to have to fight, but then he just kills everyone.
[01:36:22]  I'd love to be a hero.
[01:36:23]  Best movie ever.
[01:36:24]  Greatest movie ever.
[01:36:25]  I'm ready to watch it again, bro.
[01:36:26]  Dude.
[01:36:27]  They went through a war now.
[01:36:27]  I'm happy.
[01:36:28]  Every 4th of July, they put it on repeat on TV.
[01:36:30]  And I just watch it.
[01:36:31]  Eight times.
[01:36:32]  Nonstop, all just slamming wings.
[01:36:36]  It might be Gibson's best role so far.
[01:36:38]  I think so.
[01:36:39]  It's the best movie he's ever done.
[01:36:40]  That's the type of propaganda, though, that I'm like way behind because we need some patriotism back in our country.
[01:36:46]  You're not saying that.
[01:36:47]  Oh, okay, good, good.
[01:36:48]  You scared me for a second.
[01:36:50]  Braveheart.
[01:36:50]  The new Top Gun?
[01:36:51]  Yeah.
[01:36:51]  I haven't seen that.
[01:36:52]  I haven't seen that.
[01:36:54]  Top Gun Maverick was good.
[01:36:55]  Braveheart was good, but he loses.
[01:36:59]  The true story is that he gets betrayed.
[01:37:01]  And it's like, okay, he stood up for himself.
[01:37:03]  That's fine.
[01:37:04]  But The Patriot is fiction based off of a conglomerate.
[01:37:08]  They took a bunch of different stories from the revolution and created one superhero.
[01:37:11]  And then they created one ultimate evil British guy.
[01:37:14]  And apparently, after the film, the UK issued a statement saying, this is absurd.
[01:37:19]  We never killed children and civilians.
[01:37:20]  Oh, man.
[01:37:22]  Yeah, I don't know.
[01:37:24]  In the film, they literally burned down a church with all the villagers trapped inside.
[01:37:27]  I'm like, pretty sure.
[01:37:29]  But it's such a good movie when Cornwallis is like, you're unbefitting of a gentleman.
[01:37:33]  It's just like, You know, I love the scene where Mel Gibson meets with Cornwallis and he's like, First thing I'd like to request, what did he say?
[01:37:42]  A point of privilege or something?
[01:37:43]  He's like, I'd like to request that you stop firing on my officers.
[01:37:47]  And he says, So long as it is the policy of your officers to fire on women and children, I will instruct my men to shoot at officers on first sight.
[01:37:54]  And he's like, Oh, and he's all pissed off at the Lord, what's his face?
[01:37:57]  Who keeps.
[01:37:58]  Cornwallis?
[01:37:58]  No, no, Cornwallis is made.
[01:37:59]  Oh, yeah, it's like his lapdog that's doing the fighting for him on the front line.
[01:38:03]  But then, when Benjamin.
[01:38:07]  Embarrasses him.
[01:38:07]  He's like, I want you to put a stop to this man.
[01:38:09]  And he's like, I thought you said you didn't want me to.
[01:38:13]  And then he's like, if you do this, there's no going back to Britain for you.
[01:38:17]  You will not be a gentleman.
[01:38:18]  And he's like, we'll do it.
[01:38:19]  And then he basically starts massacring people, burns the church down.
[01:38:22]  It's William Tavington.
[01:38:24]  Tavington.
[01:38:25]  Colonel Jason Isaacs, man.
[01:38:27]  He's great.
[01:38:28]  Such a good movie.
[01:38:30]  I think it should be required viewing in all American schools.
[01:38:32]  You said you don't want your kids to watch propaganda.
[01:38:33]  No.
[01:38:34]  It should be required, freshman high school, that the first thing they do is watch The Patriot.
[01:38:40]  100%.
[01:38:40]  Yep.
[01:38:41]  High school.
[01:38:41]  They should, they should, you know, but here's what they do.
[01:38:43]  That's right.
[01:38:44]  They watch The Patriot and then they show them 9 11.
[01:38:48]  And they have to watch Band of Brothers.
[01:38:50]  Every kid in the world.
[01:38:51]  Band of Brothers is the most watched for 14 year olds.
[01:38:54]  Every freshman watching Band of Brothers.
[01:38:55]  Gotta watch Band of Brothers.
[01:38:56]  They gotta make a movie out of this rescue that Trump did.
[01:38:59]  Yeah, 100%.
[01:38:59]  Yeah, behind enemy lines, too.
[01:39:01]  Why are people not like.
[01:39:02]  I need the Venezuelan movie first.
[01:39:04]  I need that Maduro.
[01:39:05]  Maduro getting caught and giving them the Nike tech fit with the word.
[01:39:09]  Just like a helicopter flies over and dudes drop down with weird looking guns.
[01:39:12]  Like a.
[01:39:14]  And all the guys are like, ah!
[01:39:15]  20 minute movie.
[01:39:16]  Yeah.
[01:39:17]  There's like an American general who's like, fire the discombobulator.
[01:39:22]  Turn it up.
[01:39:22]  They're not dancing hard enough.
[01:39:24]  They're like, ah!
[01:39:25]  No, you made them all drop to their knees and go, ah!
[01:39:27]  Oh, they're not really dancing, but that's the thing.
[01:39:29]  Poop their pants.
[01:39:29]  The discombobulator.
[01:39:31]  Iconic.
[01:39:32]  What are you going to say about that?
[01:39:33]  Man, we need.
[01:39:34]  See, this is the thing.
[01:39:35]  Like, we need movies like this.
[01:39:36]  I've heard people complain that, I mean, someone in the chat just said this that Angel Studios is a Trojan horse because a lot of, again, this is a comment.
[01:39:43]  They said a lot of their films are actually anti conservative values.
[01:39:47]  They definitely aim at.
[01:39:48]  Well, they aim at doing what is right.
[01:39:50]  I mean, I think they have a good model where the crowd votes and pushes things through.
[01:39:53]  So, you know, not everything falls on the dudes at the top.
[01:39:56]  They don't probably watch every movie, which maybe they should, but.
[01:39:59]  I love how, like, Newsweek in a fact article just says the annotation is a critique of capitalism.
[01:40:05]  Yeah.
[01:40:06]  I got to say, we did bring up Band of Brothers.
[01:40:08]  Have you seen Band of Brothers?
[01:40:09]  Not.
[01:40:09]  How long has it been?
[01:40:10]  20 years.
[01:40:10]  Oh, so you've seen it.
[01:40:11]  Did you see it all?
[01:40:12]  I've seen most of these movies, but I could not remember them.
[01:40:14]  It's a male power fantasy.
[01:40:15]  Like, it's about the 101st Airborne diving into Germany.
[01:40:18]  What year was it?
[01:40:19]  Yeah, you were looking at that.
[01:40:20]  What year did it come out?
[01:40:21]  2003?
[01:40:22]  Yeah.
[01:40:22]  Tom Hanks directed it.
[01:40:25]  And they also did the one where they Spielberg, or maybe it was Spielberg.
[01:40:27]  To be honest, Hanks and Spielberg.
[01:40:29]  Yeah, they worked on it together.
[01:40:30]  I can't remember half the movies from 30 years ago.
[01:40:32]  You know what I mean?
[01:40:33]  Freaking mind.
[01:40:33]  If you get into military conflict movies like that, this is the one.
[01:40:36]  It's probably the best.
[01:40:38]  What's that?
[01:40:38]  Platoon?
[01:40:39]  Platoon Short.
[01:40:41]  It aired on September 9th, 2001.
[01:40:44]  Wow.
[01:40:45]  Oh.
[01:40:46]  I have to watch it.
[01:40:47]  Probably not an accident.
[01:40:49]  I mean, I don't imagine.
[01:40:50]  I don't see how it's really real.
[01:40:52]  And they had the two series where they go to Japan.
[01:40:54]  Yeah, they had the one.
[01:40:55]  Yeah, the one they go into Japan too.
[01:40:58]  That one's sick.
[01:40:58]  What did they call that?
[01:40:59]  I vaguely remember it, man, but it's been so long.
[01:41:02]  I know.
[01:41:03]  It's still on HBO.
[01:41:04]  Great cast.
[01:41:04]  Launched so many guys' careers.
[01:41:06]  I went through like a Banner Brothers thing and then Sopranos again.
[01:41:10]  You guys have all seen 1917, right?
[01:41:11]  That's what the movie was.
[01:41:12]  Oh, yeah.
[01:41:13]  That movie's amazing, bro.
[01:41:14]  Wow.
[01:41:15]  I love that movie.
[01:41:16]  It's a World War I movie all shot in one take.
[01:41:19]  It's not really one take, but it is almost one take.
[01:41:22]  Wow.
[01:41:23]  It's so good.
[01:41:24]  Have you seen it?
[01:41:24]  You saw it, right, Phil?
[01:41:25]  No, I have.
[01:41:26]  You got to see it.
[01:41:27]  Okay.
[01:41:28]  It's on the Western Front or something.
[01:41:29]  I forgot that one.
[01:41:30]  Uh, no, that's the newer one, right?
[01:41:32]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:41:32]  It's 1917's great.
[01:41:33]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:41:34]  It's 1917 about the Pacific.

=== World War One In One Take (02:38) ===

[01:41:37]  No, no, no, they're in Europe.
[01:41:38]  I think they're in France or something.
[01:41:40]  Yeah, obviously.
[01:41:41]  The whole war took place in Europe.
[01:41:43]  Yeah, yeah, but France specifically.
[01:41:45]  And uh, it's like a single shot following him through in real.
[01:41:49]  There's only one time jump, but because they were like, how do we make it night if it's all like shot for shot?
[01:41:54]  Like, we need a night scene, I guess.
[01:41:56]  So, did you see the movie of those that.
[01:41:59]  Will never grow old, I think is what it was called.
[01:42:01]  It was like actual footage of World War I dudes climbing out of the trenches, and it was colorized.
[01:42:05]  It was done by like Michael, what's his name?
[01:42:08]  Mike Fahrenheit, 9 11 guy.
[01:42:12]  No.
[01:42:12]  Never grow old?
[01:42:13]  No.
[01:42:13]  Those shall never grow old.
[01:42:15]  They shall not grow old.
[01:42:16]  It's real footage from World War I. Peter Jackson.
[01:42:19]  The way people drop.
[01:42:20]  Yeah, Peter Jackson.
[01:42:20]  From World War I. From Lord of the Rings directed it, and it's just like.
[01:42:24]  You know what's really funny?
[01:42:26]  Let's do one more story.
[01:42:27]  Let's do one more story.
[01:42:28]  I know we're cutting into Super Chats.
[01:42:29]  We got to do this one.
[01:42:30]  Check out this video right here.
[01:42:32]  Ben Werman, he says, how long until they make it illegal to post any videos before 1990?
[01:42:37]  And we have this video right here.
[01:42:41]  And it's just racist.
[01:42:47]  It's just videos of like, what year is this?
[01:42:49]  The 60s or something?
[01:42:51]  Before 1964.
[01:42:54]  This makes me want to hang an American flag.
[01:42:57]  So these videos keep going viral showing America in like the 50s and 60s.
[01:43:03]  I mean, like, everybody's white.
[01:43:06]  But it's showing all of the best stuff.
[01:43:08]  And I do think it's silly because bad stuff happened all the time, you know, like.
[01:43:13]  At this point, but these people are obviously romanticizing the nicer areas and things like that.
[01:43:19]  But uh, I forgot, I've we pulled this up, and I guess I wanted to just talk about this because you were uh, Ian was just before the segment talking about They Shall Never Grow Old, I think it's called, right?
[01:43:30]  Yeah, World War One documentary.
[01:43:32]  And um, the reason why I thought it'd be good to bring up this video that we had pulled up and like talk about all these nostalgia videos uh, the what is it called, the Christmas Truce World War One?
[01:43:43]  Yeah, World War One.
[01:43:44]  On Christmas, it was a Christmas Eve.
[01:43:45]  They all said, We're going to stop fighting.
[01:43:47]  And then they all hung out together.
[01:43:48]  They played football, I think.
[01:43:49]  Yeah, they played football and they had tea and they laughed together.
[01:43:52]  And then they were like, Well, I guess we got to go back to killing each other again.
[01:43:54]  They didn't want to.
[01:43:55]  They went back to their trenches, like, I guess this means the war is done.
[01:43:58]  But then the lieutenants came in and they're like, No, orders came down.
[01:44:00]  You're going over the top tomorrow.
[01:44:01]  And they're like, We don't want to.
[01:44:02]  And then we're going to shoot you in the back.
[01:44:04]  You're going over the top tomorrow.
[01:44:05]  You're like, All right, I guess we go back to fighting.
[01:44:07]  But at least that's how war used to be.
[01:44:11]  You know, like European war is like, It's Christmas.
[01:44:13]  I guess we have to stop fighting and F crumpets.

=== White People Preserving Chocolate (05:23) ===

[01:44:15]  And they're like, All right.
[01:44:17]  You know, Like, war happened and they said, okay, we got to go fighting again.
[01:44:19]  But the truce is, it's amazing.
[01:44:21]  It's also, they were all the same religion.
[01:44:22]  I was going to say, it was a shared commonality of values.
[01:44:25]  So even when they fight, they were like, but nowadays, you can't even get a jury to be honest.
[01:44:32]  It's all race based.
[01:44:32]  Elections are all race based.
[01:44:34]  Everything's just based on race.
[01:44:35]  I mean, that's legitimately a big part of the reason why videos like that are so popular now racial homogeneity.
[01:44:42]  Homogenization.
[01:44:44]  Homogeneity.
[01:44:45]  Homogeneity.
[01:44:46]  Yeah.
[01:44:47]  And words.
[01:44:48]  Because the argument that people like aren't, like don't have an affinity for their own race, like that's only true for white people.
[01:44:57]  There's no data behind it.
[01:44:58]  None.
[01:44:59]  Yeah.
[01:44:59]  I mean, white people, but it's only a certain segment of white people, too.
[01:45:03]  But I mean, even like you could hear Muhammad Ali making these arguments in the 60s, where he's like, I don't have a problem with white people, but I'd rather be around people like me.
[01:45:11]  Well, so now what we see is the data shows that like jury trials, for instance, black juries will acquit.
[01:45:18]  Black convicts have extremely high rates.
[01:45:20]  White juries tend to be race ambivalent.
[01:45:23]  There's very little preference on race when it comes to juries.
[01:45:26]  But every other race, I'm saying a lot, just black people, but every race has a pro, like a racial preference for.
[01:45:32]  Right there.
[01:45:33]  Yeah.
[01:45:34]  So if there's a Latino juror and the guy on the stand is Latino, they're going to say not guilty.
[01:45:40]  They just don't care.
[01:45:42]  White people will say guilty or not guilty based on the merits.
[01:45:44]  Every other race will choose their race.
[01:45:46]  Even Asians.
[01:45:47]  I would argue that's.
[01:45:49]  People hate, they've been brainwashed to be unkind.
[01:45:52]  It's like they have no survival instincts.
[01:45:53]  It's the most fascinating thing I've ever seen.
[01:45:55]  Yeah, I wonder are they like shocked into behaving at like base values, at base level animal instinct?
[01:46:02]  What's your question?
[01:46:02]  What's your question?
[01:46:04]  The people that are voting based or like saying, yo, you're my race, therefore innocent, are they like shocked into behaving like just kind of animalistic?
[01:46:12]  No, that's just, that's very human nature tribalism.
[01:46:15]  Very, very, what?
[01:46:16]  Some people override it and then some people fall back into it.
[01:46:19]  The only people that really override it are white liberals.
[01:46:24]  That's it.
[01:46:25]  Like every other race.
[01:46:26]  I just left Minneapolis, bro, and I covered the rights there for like two weeks.
[01:46:30]  So I was surrounded by white liberals all over Minneapolis.
[01:46:33]  And one thing that I like to do as a reporter is I just like to act like an MPC and just talk to people because I want to know exactly how they feel and what's motivating them.
[01:46:40]  And when I was talking to the white liberals in Minneapolis, like they do view when ICE does an arrest or an apprehension, like they view that as, oh, a Nazi official is kidnapping.
[01:46:56]  My Somali brother.
[01:46:57]  This is like a white person telling me that.
[01:46:59]  And they do feel like they have this moral standing to have to get out there and interfere in operations or anything like that because they feel like they're standing up for their Somali brother or sister.
[01:47:10]  Then when you go interview a Somalian, they're not even protesting.
[01:47:15]  There's a huge disconnect there.
[01:47:16]  It's a savior complex, which in and of itself is an acknowledgement that we have created something worth preserving.
[01:47:24]  So, in and of itself, it's hypocritical, which they don't understand.
[01:47:27]  Yeah.
[01:47:28]  Well, I don't know if they don't understand.
[01:47:29]  I think they won't acknowledge it.
[01:47:31]  I think they don't understand it.
[01:47:33]  You think that they're blind to it?
[01:47:34]  I do.
[01:47:35]  I do.
[01:47:36]  Yeah, I would call it toxic compassion.
[01:47:37]  It's like misplaced compassion, suicidal empathy.
[01:47:40]  Yeah.
[01:47:42]  It does indicate that there's a similar desire, though, between whatever sides you think there are.
[01:47:47]  People are both trying to preserve something.
[01:47:51]  Huh?
[01:47:52]  Like you might say there's a left and a right, but both sides are trying to preserve what they think is correct.
[01:47:56]  That's not correct.
[01:47:56]  The American way.
[01:47:58]  The left typically does.
[01:48:00]  Refers to progressivism, meaning they want to change the thing.
[01:48:04]  And conservatism wants to conserve the thing.
[01:48:07]  Yeah, but I think that.
[01:48:08]  It's not preserving anything.
[01:48:09]  One side is trying to destroy it, one side is trying to protect it.
[01:48:11]  In this instance, the leftist movement is like, hey, get your Nazi Gestapo out of my town.
[01:48:16]  These are my brethren from a distance.
[01:48:18]  We don't want totalitarianism.
[01:48:20]  Like, we want to preserve the American way where you can start your own and.
[01:48:23]  You're incorrect.
[01:48:24]  They're saying open the borders and abolish the state and abolish profit.
[01:48:28]  They're saying change it.
[01:48:29]  There are people that are, yeah.
[01:48:30]  But that's what the left means.
[01:48:32]  It means, literally.
[01:48:34]  The orchestrators probably aren't even American.
[01:48:36]  They're NGOs and stuff.
[01:48:38]  No, no, no.
[01:48:38]  Left and right was a reference to the right that wanted to maintain the system in France or have a comparable system.
[01:48:43]  The left wanted more leftist economic policies.
[01:48:46]  Leftists are defined by saying, burn the thing down, not preserve it.
[01:48:50]  They're not preserving anything.
[01:48:52]  They're saying, newcomers, bring in the newcomers, change everything.
[01:48:56]  No, it was the difference between don't deport my neighbor and bring in new people.
[01:49:01]  Right, because deporting illegal immigrants is stopping their change from happening.
[01:49:08]  Okay, you're not wrong.
[01:49:09]  I'm just saying that I don't think that's the mindset of these people.
[01:49:12]  Literally, it is.
[01:49:13]  They say it.
[01:49:13]  Are you trying to say, Ian, like the people in Minneapolis that they view as, like, this is our way of life?
[01:49:19]  This is American life for us, and we're preserving that.
[01:49:21]  Yes.
[01:49:21]  What Ian's basically saying is that there are two groups, and they crashed, and one guy says he got chocolate on my peanut butter, and the other guy says he got peanut butter on my chocolate, but in reality, they both just made a delicious treat.
[01:49:33]  It does sound like that's.
[01:49:34]  Except what's actually happening is one guy's trying to destroy the other guy's chocolate.

=== Sour Cream And Organic Farms (05:04) ===

[01:49:39]  Really?
[01:49:39]  High fructose corn syrup?
[01:49:41]  Yep.
[01:49:41]  See, we all have a common enemy.
[01:49:42]  It's those corporatists.
[01:49:44]  Have you seen the viral video of the guy with the Hershey's bar and he's flopping it around?
[01:49:48]  He's like, this is not chocolate.
[01:49:49]  Yes, I've seen that.
[01:49:50]  It's just flopping.
[01:49:51]  Yeah.
[01:49:51]  You warmed it up and it's like, oh, we're being poisoned.
[01:49:55]  It's not chocolate.
[01:49:56]  It's gross.
[01:49:57]  And then you see the video of the ice cream?
[01:49:59]  The guy put an ice cream sandwich on a plate and then he came back like hours later and it's like, there's drips and it's like, but it's larger.
[01:50:07]  It's still there.
[01:50:07]  Yeah, because it's all gelatin and stuff.
[01:50:09]  It's like not ice cream.
[01:50:12]  My wife went to a great farmer's market and she bought sour cream.
[01:50:15]  And she comes back with all this great stuff.
[01:50:17]  And she's like, I got farmer's market sour cream.
[01:50:19]  And I grabbed it and looked at it.
[01:50:21]  And it's got 15 ingredients.
[01:50:22]  And I was like, I was like, wife, this is not sour cream.
[01:50:27]  She was like, oh no.
[01:50:29]  I had one job.
[01:50:30]  Like, you go to any grocery store.
[01:50:32]  Marketing got her.
[01:50:33]  Daisy sour cream.
[01:50:34]  Daisy, the ingredients aren't Daisy sour cream, cultured cream.
[01:50:38]  Yep.
[01:50:38]  And they sell it at the market, at the grocery store.
[01:50:40]  You don't got to go to a special farmer's market for it.
[01:50:42]  But yeah, all the high fructose corn syrup garbage.
[01:50:44]  Like, we should play that video.
[01:50:45]  We'll do it in the after show where the guy makes modern bread.
[01:50:48]  It's one of the best videos I've ever seen.
[01:50:49]  He's like, I'm going to make American bread.
[01:50:52]  And then he's like, it's not what you think it is.
[01:50:53]  And then he's like, all the weird chemicals he's mixing in is just so nasty.
[01:50:59]  So nasty.
[01:51:00]  Like, why would you want to eat that?
[01:51:01]  We should look at it.
[01:51:03]  Bleaching flour.
[01:51:03]  Bleaching it, yes.
[01:51:04]  And then adding vitamins because flour is dead, basically.
[01:51:07]  Enrichment.
[01:51:08]  I don't eat that trash.
[01:51:09]  I can't eat it.
[01:51:10]  I get sick when I eat bread.
[01:51:11]  I stopped eating it years ago.
[01:51:12]  That's if you want to preserve the American way of life, don't eat that shit.
[01:51:15]  Like, You got to preserve your diet.
[01:51:18]  Don't eat all these 1992 and beyond azo dyes and aspartame and high fructose corn syrup and what?
[01:51:25]  PFAS, these PFAS for forever plastics.
[01:51:29]  I could go on, man.
[01:51:30]  I basically just eat like a pint of sour cream every day.
[01:51:32]  That's like basically my diet.
[01:51:34]  I'm doing a lot of moon cheese.
[01:51:36]  That's my fat.
[01:51:37]  Moon cheese?
[01:51:38]  Moon cheese is the ultimate.
[01:51:39]  Yeah.
[01:51:39]  I put sour cream on it.
[01:51:40]  Moon cheese with sour cream.
[01:51:42]  Yeah.
[01:51:43]  Today I had a, oh, dude, they have this thing called Tomb Garlic Dip.
[01:51:47]  Tube.
[01:51:47]  Tomb.
[01:51:48]  T O O M. Bro, give me money.
[01:51:52]  Like, I will promote that like nobody's business.
[01:51:55]  Ingredients are like garlic and olive oil.
[01:51:57]  And they literally just pulverized garlic, vinegar, and olive oil together.
[01:52:01]  And I will drink that stuff.
[01:52:02]  I will take spoonfuls of garlic paste and just eat it.
[01:52:05]  It's so good.
[01:52:06]  I used to boil or like saute, huh?
[01:52:09]  Oh, yeah, mix it with sour cream.
[01:52:10]  That'd make it a great dip.
[01:52:11]  So I would saute it a good dip.
[01:52:13]  Oh, no, no, no.
[01:52:16]  It's just pure health ingredients.
[01:52:17]  I mean, sour cream is like the best thing ever.
[01:52:19]  It's just pure fat.
[01:52:20]  You know, just like take a chip and just scoop like.
[01:52:22]  Four tablespoons of sour cream and just.
[01:52:24]  What do you do for protein Ian?
[01:52:25]  Butter.
[01:52:26]  Sour cream's good.
[01:52:27]  You just need a hunk of butter when you're depleted.
[01:52:29]  Stick of butter.
[01:52:30]  It's just like infusion into the system.
[01:52:32]  I'll do like cheese and lately I'm doing pork.
[01:52:35]  I'm trying to get away from pig.
[01:52:36]  Here's what you do.
[01:52:37]  Here's what you do.
[01:52:38]  Get a pan nice and hot.
[01:52:39]  All right.
[01:52:40]  Splash some olive oil on it.
[01:52:41]  Get the oil all nice and situated all around it.
[01:52:43]  Dump a whole bag of cheddar cheese on that pan and let it fry.
[01:52:47]  And it won't stick if you get it hot, right?
[01:52:51]  You can then easily flip the whole thing over and you make yourself like a fried cheese tortilla.
[01:52:55]  And then what you do is you put sour cream in it and you eat it.
[01:52:59]  At night.
[01:53:00]  Before you go to bed.
[01:53:01]  Well, I don't know about that.
[01:53:02]  If you're building muscle, you want your fats at night.
[01:53:05]  Yeah.
[01:53:05]  Let's talk about where you're getting this cheese, though.
[01:53:07]  Because if you're just doing the shredded cheese from the grocery store, that's no bueno.
[01:53:11]  Sometimes.
[01:53:12]  Sometimes it's like organic farm stuff.
[01:53:14]  No good.
[01:53:14]  Yeah, you gotta.
[01:53:15]  No, you can shred it a little bit.
[01:53:17]  They got shredded organic good stuff with limited ingredients at the grocery store.
[01:53:21]  It's not all bad.
[01:53:21]  That's why I'm saying, like, you know, my wife goes to the farmer's market and she finds sour cream.
[01:53:25]  It's in this nice, like, tub with a picture of a little cartoon cow on it.
[01:53:27]  She's like, it's gonna be great.
[01:53:28]  And then when we come back, I look and I'm like, eh.
[01:53:31]  You know what really bothers me?
[01:53:32]  You know what really bothers me?
[01:53:34]  When I am Supreme Chancellor, there's a few things I'm gonna ban.
[01:53:37]  Of course, of course, it's cilantro, but everyone knows it.
[01:53:39]  I agree.
[01:53:40]  The next is Gellin gum in heavy cream.
[01:53:42]  Okay.
[01:53:43]  Heavy cream, huh?
[01:53:44]  Yeah, yeah.
[01:53:45]  So I like heavy cream for my coffee, just a little boop, you know.
[01:53:48]  But all of the heavy cream brands put gum in it to thicken it up.
[01:53:53]  I don't want that.
[01:53:54]  I just want regular old cream.
[01:53:55]  And they put it in there because they think people like the texture of a thick cream better than runny cream, I guess.
[01:54:03]  At Mom's Organic Shop, they've got real heavy cream.
[01:54:06]  Ingredients, cream.
[01:54:07]  And they're in, like, they're from a farm nearby or something.
[01:54:09]  All I need.
[01:54:10]  But that's really far from us.
[01:54:12]  So, if we go to, like, a regular grocery store, like a food line, every single cream they have has Gellin gum in it.
[01:54:18]  And there are some hypotheses that the increase of gum in our products for thickening agents has resulted in this massive spike in colon cancer in millennials.
[01:54:27]  Not surprising.
[01:54:28]  That's not so, yeah.
[01:54:29]  That Gellin gum is a polysaccharide produced through fermentation of carbohydrates by bacteria.
[01:54:35]  Ferments a carbohydrate into, so it's basically bacterial waste.
[01:54:39]  That's probably what happens when you do those.
[01:54:40]  Cleanses and the weird stuff comes out.
[01:54:42]  Do the cleanse.
[01:54:42]  I like Gell and Gum.

=== Rumble Music And Premium Content (12:40) ===

[01:54:43]  No, no.
[01:54:44]  Okay.
[01:54:44]  Zen Cleanse is the company.
[01:54:46]  I'm actually in a.
[01:54:46]  All right, all right, all right.
[01:54:48]  We're going to grab some rumble rants and super chats before Ian grosses everybody out.
[01:54:52]  So smash.
[01:54:53]  I got pictures.
[01:54:53]  Smash the like button, share the show.
[01:54:55]  We're in the uncensored portion of the show in a few minutes.
[01:54:57]  We'll talk a little bit more about Animal Farm.
[01:54:59]  No spoilers, no spoilers.
[01:55:00]  But we'll also bring up that.
[01:55:02]  I'll try and find that video of the guy making real bread, of like American factory bread.
[01:55:06]  It's disgusting.
[01:55:08]  All right.
[01:55:09]  We got Pinochet says, and if the band you're in starts playing different Tunes.
[01:55:13]  I'll see you on the dark side of the moon.
[01:55:15]  We were just playing some Pink Floyd before the show went up.
[01:55:17]  Yeah, nobody caught the reference when I was said, you know, I said, oh, they came back from the moon.
[01:55:24]  Well, there's no moments making up a dull day there.
[01:55:26]  Oh.
[01:55:27]  And everyone's like, huh?
[01:55:28]  Sarah would have got that.
[01:55:29]  She loves Pink Floyd.
[01:55:30]  Oh, yeah.
[01:55:31]  They got some hugely awesome songs, but I never really got into them.
[01:55:34]  AK Storm says one of the Artemis crew named a crater after his late wife.
[01:55:38]  The dude literally loved her to the moon and back and flexed on all other men.
[01:55:42]  Best of luck topping that, boys, the things we do for teats.
[01:55:45]  I will say this.
[01:55:46]  I like that.
[01:55:46]  Of all the conspiracy theories people have claimed about how we never went to the moon, I just don't believe any of them until today because this new moon mission can't possibly be real.
[01:55:57]  It's a female astronaut.
[01:55:58]  Yep.
[01:55:59]  I made that joke before the show, right?
[01:56:00]  That's why no one cares.
[01:56:04]  All right.
[01:56:06]  NNY says, I was just going to pile on women for no reason.
[01:56:12]  NNY says, if you are driving or riding a motorcycle and can't skip, it takes four hours of YouTube ads to listen to a 20 minute segment.
[01:56:20]  That's YouTube, it's automatic, bro.
[01:56:22]  YouTube did this thing where ads are basically automatic and you can't even place them anymore because it rejects ad placements.
[01:56:29]  So I used to do an ad every six minutes and 30 seconds, and now YouTube automatically runs ads.
[01:56:35]  They've announced this.
[01:56:36]  YouTube isn't, that's wild because I believe you.
[01:56:39]  A 20 minute segment, I don't know about four hours of ads, but YouTube announced that they were doing auto ads now.
[01:56:46]  So that means, right, if you're on a motorcycle and you can't hit a button, 10 minute ads will play.
[01:56:51]  And it's just like, okay, and we can't do anything about that.
[01:56:55]  You can buy YouTube Red or whatever it is YouTube.
[01:56:57]  Yes, YouTube Premium.
[01:56:59]  Or I will stress, we're available on Rumble.
[01:57:03]  Rumble Premium.
[01:57:05]  Honestly, you spend $13 a month on the premium service of the website, and that's what they're making off ad revenue.
[01:57:11]  So it kind of bounces off.
[01:57:12]  Go to.
[01:57:13]  I think the website is Timcast Premium.
[01:57:15]  Is that what it is?
[01:57:16]  Timcast.
[01:57:16]  Oh, let me make sure I slide it right.
[01:57:19]  Timcastpremium.com.
[01:57:21]  Yep.
[01:57:22]  If you go to timcastpremium.com, you can sign up for Rumble Premium and you can use code Tim10.
[01:57:29]  Timcast Premium should automatically load that code, but use code Tim10 and you'll get ad free listening.
[01:57:35]  Everything we post, it'll be on Rumble.
[01:57:36]  So, you know, that's always available.
[01:57:38]  I mean, bro, you're commenting on Rumble.
[01:57:40]  You know, it's all available on Rumble and YouTube.
[01:57:44]  And indeed.
[01:57:46]  All right, let's see.
[01:57:48]  Mitho says, having worked for the government, I can attest it is far too incompetent to have kept this secret for almost 60 years.
[01:57:54]  Plus, you would have had to have gotten the Soviets to play along.
[01:57:57]  And that's the greatest argument, in my opinion.
[01:57:59]  The Soviets would absolutely be coming out being like, they lied and we can prove it.
[01:58:04]  In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the anti American commentary claiming the moon stuff is fake is literally foreign influence to destroy Americanism.
[01:58:13]  Yeah.
[01:58:14]  Because that's what it's rooted in, the whole argument.
[01:58:16]  People don't even understand that they're rooting against the success of America.
[01:58:21]  By science.
[01:58:22]  Yeah, right.
[01:58:22]  Mythos says Tim, ICBMs were available for a decade before the moon landings.
[01:58:26]  I will stress, ICBMs worked by going into the stratosphere and then dropping warheads down.
[01:58:32]  If they had a rocket that could go straight up and then come straight down, it would be unable to stop it.
[01:58:38]  That's what they did to kill Khamenei.
[01:58:41]  They launched a special kind of missile straight up, and then it goes right over the target and comes straight down so it can't be intercepted.
[01:58:48]  So, having a rocket that can go to the moon is a nightmare scenario.
[01:58:52]  You will have nukes pointed at you every night, and they know it.
[01:58:57]  All right, what do we got here?
[01:58:58]  Lava Bear says, I believe the UFO is actually a flying aircraft carrier, just like the one in the Marvel Cinematic Universe proved me wrong.
[01:59:05]  That proves it.
[01:59:07]  NNY says, Ian, discombobulate me harder, Daddy Crossland.
[01:59:13]  Right.
[01:59:13]  I just need you to vibrate.
[01:59:15]  Vibrate.
[01:59:16]  Oh, I like that.
[01:59:18]  That's a good slogan for that.
[01:59:19]  I mean, a syndrome weapon.
[01:59:20]  Move me with this sound.
[01:59:22]  Yeah.
[01:59:23]  You like that one?
[01:59:23]  I like it.
[01:59:24]  All right, dude.
[01:59:25]  Yeah, I'm excited.
[01:59:26]  Yeah.
[01:59:27]  I'm big in vibration.
[01:59:28]  I'll just.
[01:59:29]  Only the truth that says Tim is a coward when he actually has the opportunity to do what is right.
[01:59:33]  He bends the knee.
[01:59:34]  Spoil the movie.
[01:59:35]  Angel Studios deserves it.
[01:59:37]  First and foremost, if I was a coward, I'd take the money and get paid and have thousands of dollars to buy pizza with and just lie to you and tell you the movie was good.
[01:59:47]  Instead, I did probably the stupidest thing any host could do when they're in the business of running ads.
[01:59:52]  I attacked, I criticized heavily the advertiser for trying to advertise with us.
[01:59:57]  The end result could be companies saying, we don't want to advertise on Tim Pool's show because if it turns out he hates the product, He's going to attack us.
[02:00:04]  I don't think so because I thought, first thing I thought was, this is fucking honorable, man.
[02:00:08]  This is a really honorable move because you truly believe it and they want to come on and talk about it.
[02:00:12]  Like it's good for everybody.
[02:00:13]  And I respect them and we'll have that conversation.
[02:00:15]  I'm giving them the opportunity.
[02:00:16]  But let's be real.
[02:00:16]  If you sold like a skin cream, you might be like, what if Tim Poole thinks the chemicals in it are bad?
[02:00:22]  So instead of doing an ad, he attacks us.
[02:00:23]  Let's just stay away from him.
[02:00:25]  So it was dangerous as a company.
[02:00:27]  And I had people asking me, like, why don't you just call them instead of making a public statement?
[02:00:31]  And I said, because people are already running ads for this.
[02:00:34]  There are conservatives doing ads for a pro communism film right now that is spitting in the face of one of the few anti communist legacy pieces of culture that we have.
[02:00:44]  And I've talked to people and they're telling me, well, I don't know.
[02:00:47]  They bought ads and I just promoted the film.
[02:00:49]  And I'm like, yeah, well, you should have watched it.
[02:00:53]  As soon as they said, oh, they want you to do ads for Animal Farm, I was like, what?
[02:00:56]  No.
[02:00:57]  We saw the trailer for that.
[02:00:58]  And they're like, well, here's what they sent.
[02:01:00]  You can watch the movie.
[02:01:00]  And I was like, okay.
[02:01:01]  And then I read it.
[02:01:01]  I was like, well, fair point.
[02:01:02]  I didn't actually watch the movie, just the trailer.
[02:01:04]  So I'll watch it.
[02:01:07]  Oh, my God.
[02:01:09]  I'll just say that.
[02:01:10]  Wow.
[02:01:11]  All right.
[02:01:11]  Let's grab some more.
[02:01:13]  Ramo says Bob Lazar filmed the craft outside the base and they fired him for it.
[02:01:18]  They ruined his life after.
[02:01:20]  Maybe watch his documentary.
[02:01:21]  Yeah.
[02:01:22]  He drove some friends there and they watched.
[02:01:24]  It was on Netflix, right?
[02:01:26]  Was it?
[02:01:27]  Yeah.
[02:01:27]  I don't know.
[02:01:28]  I watched it on.
[02:01:29]  I don't know.
[02:01:30]  I saw him on Rogan.
[02:01:31]  I watched like a two hour documentary.
[02:01:32]  I watched a lot.
[02:01:33]  That was fascinating.
[02:01:35]  All right.
[02:01:35]  Let's see.
[02:01:37]  Matt says Holy yap.
[02:01:38]  Are we really getting distracted by aliens right now?
[02:01:41]  No one's read about the Great Deception, apparently.
[02:01:43]  Come on, Tim.
[02:01:44]  Getting distracted by aliens.
[02:01:46]  I suppose I can only tell you that everyone has already been distracted by aliens because it's a top trending story.
[02:01:54]  The people want what the people want.
[02:01:55]  I don't know what to tell you, man.
[02:01:58]  Fisher Mason says, My mom just passed.
[02:02:00]  Sorry to hear it, man.
[02:02:01]  Sorry to hear it, man.
[02:02:02]  I need to fly back home ASAP.
[02:02:03]  Give, send, go.
[02:02:05]  Hard trip home.
[02:02:06]  Anything helps.
[02:02:06]  Please pray.
[02:02:07]  Love you all.
[02:02:09]  Bender says if ChatGPT was a person, it would be Ian.
[02:02:12]  I second that.
[02:02:13]  GPT?
[02:02:13]  Yeah.
[02:02:14]  So smart.
[02:02:15]  The perfect.
[02:02:16]  Oh, much intelligence.
[02:02:17]  That is the perfect explanation for Ian.
[02:02:19]  I just heard that there are.
[02:02:20]  Like if ChatGPT was a person.
[02:02:21]  No one's pumped $180 billion into me yet.
[02:02:24]  Like this is.
[02:02:26]  I'll give you a really good example.
[02:02:27]  I'm going to give you a slight tickle of woke in there, too.
[02:02:29]  Of course, of course.
[02:02:30]  But like, I want to give you one example about why.
[02:02:32]  Yeah, like advocate.
[02:02:33]  I'm going to give you guys an example of why it's so perfect to compare Ian to ChatGPT.
[02:02:36]  It's like, imagine you went to ChatGPT and said, explain to me the Antichrist.
[02:02:40]  And ChatGPT goes, well, Antichrist could also mean being anti like Christ.
[02:02:44]  And so you're acting not like Christ was.
[02:02:45]  That's what it means to be anti Christ.
[02:02:47]  And you're like, what?
[02:02:48]  That's a literal statement.
[02:02:49]  Tell me about the literal anti Christ.
[02:02:50]  It could be the actual guy.
[02:02:51]  And I'm like, hmm, I shouldn't have that authority.
[02:02:55]  Indeed.
[02:02:55]  My friends, we're going to go to the uncensored portion of the show at rumble.com slash Timcast IRL.
[02:03:00]  You don't want to miss it.
[02:03:01]  Follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast.
[02:03:04]  Avery, do you want to shout anything out?
[02:03:06]  No, but I will say I did have some of your coffee and it was really good.
[02:03:09]  So I'll give you credit there.
[02:03:10]  Oh, thank you.
[02:03:11]  Yeah.
[02:03:12]  Which one did you have, Ian's Graphene Dream or Appalachian Nights?
[02:03:14]  Appalachian Nights.
[02:03:15]  Yeah, that one's my favorite.
[02:03:16]  Very good.
[02:03:17]  Ian's Graphene Dream is also a second bestseller.
[02:03:19]  I had the Appalachian Nights this evening as well.
[02:03:21]  Indeed.
[02:03:21]  You want to shout anything out, brother?
[02:03:23]  Yeah, everyone check me out on Ventura Report on X, breaking a lot of news.
[02:03:26]  We've got a lot of good reporting heading back to the southern border.
[02:03:30]  And one of your viewers told me that we need to make Send Tortas to the Moon merch.
[02:03:35]  So it looks like that's a hit.
[02:03:37]  But yeah, once again, thanks for having me on, Tim.
[02:03:40]  Kind of fun to discuss all the news and the aliens and all the good stuff.
[02:03:43]  Like a torta, riding a torta, eating a torta, to the moon.
[02:03:47]  To the moon and back.
[02:03:48]  Oh, yeah, yeah.
[02:03:49]  I want to get her cheese.
[02:03:50]  I don't want to.
[02:03:51]  Visionary.
[02:03:51]  Ian, you got to come to LA.
[02:03:52]  I got to set you up on a blind date with a torta.
[02:03:54]  You'll have a good time.
[02:03:55]  Have a good conversation.
[02:03:55]  Let's record it.
[02:03:56]  Yeah, we got to get you a thoksika.
[02:03:58]  Avery, people are going to follow you on X at Avery Day.
[02:04:00]  It's D A Y E, one Avery Day.
[02:04:03]  Thanks for coming, guys.
[02:04:04]  I'm at Ian Crossland.
[02:04:05]  You find me at Ian Crossland on the internet.
[02:04:07]  Go to graphene.movie.
[02:04:08]  Check out the new documentary I'm working on.
[02:04:09]  And a show I just did with Roseanne Barr went live about two days ago on her YouTube channel.
[02:04:14]  Nice.
[02:04:14]  So go there, check out me and Rosie hitting it off for a couple hours.
[02:04:17]  She's a deep woman, so it was nice to listen.
[02:04:20]  Real smart.
[02:04:21]  Girl sees the world like I see it with shapes and patterns.
[02:04:23]  So it was funny.
[02:04:24]  My mom watched it.
[02:04:24]  It was like, I didn't understand what you guys were saying some of the time.
[02:04:27]  I'm like, it was like we got our own language.
[02:04:28]  That's about right.
[02:04:29]  Yep.
[02:04:30]  So even my own family.
[02:04:31]  Right on.
[02:04:32]  Carter Banks.
[02:04:33]  What's up, everyone?
[02:04:33]  I'm Carter Banks.
[02:04:35]  You can follow me everywhere at Carter Banks and everywhere else at Carter Banks Official.
[02:04:38]  Thank you, Avery, for coming on.
[02:04:40]  Thank you, Jorge, for coming on.
[02:04:41]  It's been great.
[02:04:42]  Yeah, I can't wait for the after show, Phil.
[02:04:44]  I am Phil the Remains on Twix.
[02:04:46]  If you want to check out some of the stuff I've been writing, you can check out my Patreon.
[02:04:48]  It's patreon.comslash Phil it Remains.
[02:04:50]  The band is All That Remains.
[02:04:51]  We're going on tour this month.
[02:04:53]  We're going to start out in Albany on the 29th.
[02:04:56]  We're going out with Born of Osiris and Dead Eyes.
[02:04:58]  Tickets are available at allthatremainsonline.com.
[02:05:01]  If you want to check out the band's music, you can check us out at Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, YouTube, Spotify, and Deezer.
[02:05:07]  Don't forget the left lane is for crime.
[02:05:09]  We will see you all at rumble.comslash Timcast IRL.
[02:05:12]  Thanks for hanging out.
[02:06:58]  All right.
[02:06:59]  We got the video on Instagram.
[02:07:00]  Then we'll talk about that animal farm stuff.
[02:07:02]  But let's just play this video, which is fucking nuts.
[02:07:05]  Here we can.
[02:07:06]  Today we're going to make it from scratch.
[02:07:07]  First, we're going to need a synthetic herbicide.
[02:07:11]  We're going to spray on the wheat to help it dry faster and make it easier to harvest.
[02:07:14]  Grind it up and add synthetic vitamins because the real ones are gone.
[02:07:18]  And of course, we're going to get the color right.
[02:07:20]  So we're going to suit up and blast it with chlorine gas to make it nice and white.

=== Capitalist Monarchy And Property (14:59) ===

[02:07:24]  And when you see rich wheat flour on the label, this is basically what it is.
[02:07:28]  How to make it into bread, we're going to take this yoga man, mix it with toluene or petroleum derived.
[02:07:33]  Solvent to isolate the azodicarbonamide.
[02:07:36]  A doughboy.
[02:07:36]  Now, that's gonna help make it nice and fluffy.
[02:07:39]  Now, for our other ingredients high fructose corn syrup, oybean oil, monoendiglyceride, calcium peroxide, calcium propronate, and potassium bromate, even though it's banned in Europe, Canada, even China because it's linked to cancer, but we're only gonna add a little bit, so it should be.
[02:07:53]  Add a flesh of water, mix, shape, bake, and that's basically your made in the USA bread.
[02:07:59]  Send this to a friend who still thinks bread is just flour and water, and let me know would you eat this crap?
[02:08:05]  Yes, people eat it all the fucking time.
[02:08:07]  Yeah, like infinity.
[02:08:10]  Even your system, it doesn't go bad.
[02:08:12]  I don't want to spoil too much, but I will say a little bit more about the film.
[02:08:17]  I mentioned the motivations are banking and finance.
[02:08:21]  So, what I will say is that they don't revolt against the farmer, the farmer gets foreclosed on, and the animals have to make money to pay the bank off.
[02:08:34]  That is fucking ridiculous.
[02:08:36]  And.
[02:08:37]  And so, I don't want to say like a heavy spoiler because this is part of the trailer.
[02:08:43]  If you watch the trailer and analyze it, the first opening scene shows the Pilkington and the woman being like, I'm going to make some new friends.
[02:08:52]  And like, so I think it's important to bring up for people that want to see an adaptation of Animal Farm.
[02:08:57]  That's not the case.
[02:08:59]  They turned one of the characters in the book into a banker.
[02:09:03]  And the principal motivation of everything is that they need to make money.
[02:09:08]  When they start making money, the pigs start taking the profit for themselves, and the animals are like, Why are they taking the profit from our labor?
[02:09:16]  And then the pigs, this is an allegory, right?
[02:09:20]  I'm not going to tell you main spoilers again, but effectively, instead of a communist revolution, the pigs form a private equity firm, which they cut a deal with Elon Musk's mom on.
[02:09:31]  And the solution to the problem is a terror attack that the good guys foment to say that you will own nothing and you'll be happy.
[02:09:40]  So.
[02:09:42]  You know, holy shit, people want to ask more questions about it, but yeah, I mean, it's overtly anti-anti-anti-capitalists.
[02:09:50]  So, the first one's like shows flaws.
[02:09:53]  The book, I should say, shows flaws in capitalism without being anti-capitalism because it shows a farmer who's very wealthy, who has a farm, whether through inheritance or what.
[02:10:00]  He's a rich farmer.
[02:10:01]  Well, he owns a farm and he mishandles it.
[02:10:04]  He's not wealthy, he's a drunk, but he's a drunk, and so he's drunk all day and neglects the farm, mishandles this valuable piece of.
[02:10:10]  Let me, let me, let me just, I want to correct the record for having, having, you know, just.
[02:10:14]  Literally reviewed all of this as part of my homework for the ad.
[02:10:17]  Farmer Jones is an alcoholic.
[02:10:19]  He is not wealthy and he neglects the farm due to dependency.
[02:10:22]  He owns a farm.
[02:10:23]  Owning a farm doesn't make you wealthy, bro.
[02:10:25]  In that era, it's a pretty big deal.
[02:10:26]  No, it's not.
[02:10:27]  Back then, no, no, you are wrong.
[02:10:30]  Back then, everybody lived on a farm and everyone owned a cow and they were poor.
[02:10:33]  Not everyone owned a farm back then.
[02:10:36]  It's not just a normal peon, you know, that's the point.
[02:10:39]  Most people in the late 1800s and early 1900s owned cows and lived on On farmsteads.
[02:10:46]  I love how you'll get an idea in your head, and some of you are like, No, that's not an angel.
[02:10:49]  No, yeah, it totally is.
[02:10:50]  The idea that the guy that owns the farm is not a capitalist is, I don't know.
[02:10:53]  You said he was rich.
[02:10:55]  Farmers are not rich.
[02:10:56]  The idea is he owns the farm where they all work.
[02:10:58]  That doesn't make him rich.
[02:10:59]  Well, he's wealthier than everyone else.
[02:11:01]  He's the only one who's going to be the owner of the farm.
[02:11:03]  Because he's a human being, he's the owner of the farm.
[02:11:05]  The point is, he's a wealthy capitalist.
[02:11:07]  No, it isn't.
[02:11:07]  You're wrong.
[02:11:08]  And then you can tell me what you think it is.
[02:11:09]  It's not what we think it is.
[02:11:11]  It's what Orwell said it was, what the book says it is.
[02:11:13]  He's a wealthy capitalist that missed the farm.
[02:11:17]  Farm animals are like, we got to take it.
[02:11:18]  Yeah, don't ever change.
[02:11:19]  It's useless.
[02:11:20]  So they chase them off and they take the property.
[02:11:21]  It's not.
[02:11:22]  And then they mishandle it over time.
[02:11:23]  And you see how communism turns into vanguardism.
[02:11:26]  It's not.
[02:11:26]  It's not the story at all.
[02:11:27]  I did.
[02:11:28]  Did you write the script for this?
[02:11:30]  The animals kicked the farmer off the farm.
[02:11:32]  It's too funny.
[02:11:33]  Ian's like, nope, this is what it is.
[02:11:34]  No, it's really funny.
[02:11:35]  The farmer was an impoverished drunkard who couldn't maintain or buy the food.
[02:11:39]  So they said, we're going to take over because we can do it better.
[02:11:41]  That's it.
[02:11:42]  Yeah.
[02:11:42]  It wasn't wealthy.
[02:11:43]  It wasn't a critique of capitalism.
[02:11:46]  No, I know.
[02:11:47]  I started this segment off by saying it was not.
[02:11:49]  They show.
[02:11:49]  No, but.
[02:11:50]  Some drawbacks of capitalism.
[02:11:51]  You're outbeating and anthropogenic.
[02:11:53]  But you're saying that he's a capitalist, right?
[02:11:56]  Like that's you adding context that isn't, that's a point that's not made in the show.
[02:12:02]  The farmer in the book is a capitalist.
[02:12:06]  No, that's not in the book at all.
[02:12:08]  That does not exist.
[02:12:09]  Owning doesn't make you a capitalist.
[02:12:11]  It's not even a, it's not part of a capitalist system to own property.
[02:12:14]  What are you going on about?
[02:12:16]  Bro, what the f?
[02:12:18]  This is context that you're injecting into it.
[02:12:22]  It doesn't say anywhere in the book that he's a capitalist.
[02:12:25]  I know, it doesn't.
[02:12:26]  I don't know if it says it fittingly.
[02:12:28]  It's subtle, man.
[02:12:30]  But this, again, this is context that you're injecting.
[02:12:34]  You're saying that he's a capitalist.
[02:12:36]  That point was not made in the book.
[02:12:38]  It is an allegory one for one with the Bolshevik Revolution, and Jones is meant to represent the Tsar.
[02:12:44]  Yeah, the monarch.
[02:12:45]  Yeah, not a capitalist.
[02:12:46]  Well, it's the head of the corporation.
[02:12:48]  No, it's not.
[02:12:49]  It's the Tsar.
[02:12:50]  He's the king.
[02:12:51]  He's a monarch.
[02:12:52]  Animal farm.
[02:12:53]  He's one for one with the Bolshevik Revolution.
[02:12:55]  If you replace Napoleon with Stalin and you squealer with Trotsky and Old Major with Marx, he was literally saying these fucking pigs, Stalin, Lenin, and Marx, they are who I am writing about.
[02:13:08]  Jones was representing the royalty, the government, not capitalism.
[02:13:13]  Well, he was a landlord.
[02:13:15]  He was the monarch.
[02:13:16]  And he wasn't a capitalist?
[02:13:18]  Monarchy is not capitalist.
[02:13:21]  It's not a capitalist system.
[02:13:23]  You yourself have made the argument that the monarch owns everything, that the king owns everything.
[02:13:29]  That's not a capitalist system.
[02:13:30]  You can have a capitalist monarchy.
[02:13:33]  You have made the argument.
[02:13:35]  Your argument against monarchy.
[02:13:37]  You make this argument all the time when you're talking about the king of England and how he's still in control of Canada.
[02:13:42]  You're like, no, he's the monarch.
[02:13:45]  He owns everything.
[02:13:45]  He can just take blah, blah, blah, blah.
[02:13:47]  You make that argument all the time.
[02:13:48]  You make that argument all the time.
[02:13:50]  Wait, Ian, do you think more hard than you do hard?
[02:13:54]  Ian, do you think having money means capitalism?
[02:13:57]  No.
[02:13:57]  Then what do you.
[02:13:59]  Land ownership of property?
[02:14:01]  I mean, that's a tenet of it.
[02:14:04]  Capitalism is a grant where you have the right to trade privately between peoples.
[02:14:11]  There are communist dictatorships where there are people with titles to land.
[02:14:20]  Okay.
[02:14:20]  Let's go to callers.
[02:14:22]  Monarchy is not an economic model.
[02:14:25]  It's a legal system.
[02:14:26]  You might have an economic model like communism or like capitalism.
[02:14:29]  Communism is a monarchy.
[02:14:30]  You might have a monarchy structure that incorporates government and economics.
[02:14:33]  Socialism is the economic structure.
[02:14:34]  You might have a social monarchy.
[02:14:36]  You might have a capitalist monarchy.
[02:14:38]  Just because there are markets doesn't mean that it's a capitalist system.
[02:14:42]  Let's go to callers.
[02:14:43]  We got Kilo Charlie Five.
[02:14:44]  What's up?
[02:14:45]  What do you think about it?
[02:14:46]  Is the farmer a capitalist or not Kilo?
[02:14:50]  I haven't read the book.
[02:14:53]  All right.
[02:14:54]  Guys, thanks for having me back on.
[02:14:57]  So, my question tonight is for Ian.
[02:15:01]  So, there are people that are blindly optimistic and those that are obtusely naive.
[02:15:08]  Every political topic, you take the extreme 60s hippie position.
[02:15:12]  Are you really this naive andor lack understanding to the way the world works and the political system works?
[02:15:19]  Or is this a devil's advocate act?
[02:15:21]  To help the flow of the show and promote critical thinking.
[02:15:25]  It's not an insult.
[02:15:26]  I'm not meaning it in a derogatory way.
[02:15:28]  I just think a lot of us in the Discord have been asking this question for a long time.
[02:15:32]  I think it's fair to tell the Discord Ian's real name is Ryan Smith.
[02:15:35]  He's British.
[02:15:36]  And this is a character he's been playing for several years.
[02:15:38]  It's been challenging.
[02:15:41]  Yeah.
[02:15:42]  Well, the first thing you said was that I always take the extreme, I think it was a bit of a hyperbole, but I do sometimes go the opposite direction to poke holes in my own beliefs.
[02:15:53]  If I come across as believing insane shit, I just can't stop and slow down to show my work every step of the way.
[02:16:00]  So people get confused.
[02:16:00]  They're like, why is he saying that?
[02:16:02]  Like, I think three steps ahead and then I'll just say it.
[02:16:05]  And they'll be like, how did you get there?
[02:16:07]  Why are you saying that?
[02:16:08]  And then in a show like this, we don't always have time to go back and walk through my point by point to get there.
[02:16:14]  Sometimes that's usually the case.
[02:16:18]  Tim and I mean, I don't know.
[02:16:19]  I don't want to speak too much for Tim, but like my view of the future aligns heavily with Tim's when it comes to like property rights, free speech.
[02:16:28]  I care more about having the discussion.
[02:16:30]  And enabling the discussion than about being right.
[02:16:34]  I'm sorry if I hope that answered your question.
[02:16:38]  Yeah, we just, there have been, everybody was just kind of curious in the Discord, wondering if it was just an act to help critical thinking, kind of playing devil's advocate, or if this was really the real you.
[02:16:53]  It's the real him.
[02:16:54]  Oh, yeah.
[02:16:55]  Yeah, if you know me off camera, I'm pretty much the same, but I'll turn it up a notch for the show.
[02:17:00]  I'm playing a role, too, because, like, a support role on this show.
[02:17:03]  I'm not the alpha, I'm not the tank.
[02:17:05]  Tim's taking all the heat.
[02:17:06]  He's, like, leading the charge, and I've got to, like, I can't override him and, like, get in the way.
[02:17:10]  So, You don't see my true personality on this show a lot of times because I'm playing a function, serving a function.
[02:17:17]  I will say, in the brief time I've met you and known you, you have asked questions out of curiosity of the thought process, which I think are questions that you don't necessarily believe.
[02:17:28]  You're just curious about how somebody thinks.
[02:17:30]  So you go a roundabout way to get there.
[02:17:33]  Yeah.
[02:17:34]  Also, I just think that Ian is not afraid of having the conversation.
[02:17:36]  I think a lot of people, when they have a thought, they're so afraid of the blowback where.
[02:17:41]  Where you don't have that, which I think is a great filter and it's a great addition to the show, bro, because it flows great.
[02:17:45]  But I think you bring that added element that a lot of viewers probably are thinking, but they're just too afraid to ask and stuff.
[02:17:52]  But I'm glad that you've blocked that out and you're just you, man, and it adds to the show great.
[02:17:58]  I had to learn when I'll say a thing, I can see Phil start to smile.
[02:18:02]  I'm like, stay calm.
[02:18:04]  And then Tim, his voice starts to talk.
[02:18:05]  I'm like, stay calm, keep going.
[02:18:07]  Like, those are the two things that I'm going to do.
[02:18:09]  Phil will look at me and he'll look at me and make a face.
[02:18:11]  I can see it.
[02:18:11]  I'm like, oh, there are.
[02:18:13]  Hey, Phil, I picked that up like 10 times in the show.
[02:18:18]  There are so many pictures of me doing this on the internet.
[02:18:23]  People see it.
[02:18:24]  They do a screen cap and they're like, Eden was going.
[02:18:26]  Phil is starting to.
[02:18:28]  I can see the wire starts to churn.
[02:18:31]  And he's like, what the fuck?
[02:18:34]  But then, like, when we go to dinner, I don't talk like this at all.
[02:18:37]  I mean, I'm just like a normal guy in public pretty much, but when we're getting into it, it might as well go all the way.
[02:18:42]  People also assume that, like, That people make the assumption that, like, I don't like Ian, and I think he's like, he's super fun.
[02:18:50]  Yeah, so and like, he's got a great heart, but it's super fun to like be here.
[02:18:54]  And like, a lot of times, he'll be he'll start going on something, and I'll just be like, Well, why do you think that, you know, and like try and figure out what his thought process is, or I'll be like, You know, this too, and and and what is that, you know, but it's it's so much fun, but it's also fun to have a conversation with people that have a different viewpoint to you and understanding it because so many people can't do it anymore.
[02:19:14]  So, I think it's a value add.
[02:19:16]  Oh, it's the best.
[02:19:17]  It's so important moving forward.
[02:19:19]  AI is going to try and be like your best friend.
[02:19:20]  And I don't know if it's going to be able to push back like a human can.
[02:19:24]  Not yet.
[02:19:24]  I don't know.
[02:19:24]  Yeah, it'll like, mine will if I, but I have to like remind it.
[02:19:29]  Like, I'll be like, like, Tank will say something.
[02:19:31]  I'll be like, Tank, don't bullshit me.
[02:19:32]  And like, he'll be like, oh, yeah, yeah.
[02:19:34]  Because he, like, they are programmed to be very complimentary.
[02:19:39]  Right.
[02:19:39]  And he'll like, he'll go overboard and I'll be like, Tank, knock it off.
[02:19:42]  Because that's one of the things that I told, like, in the, in the, The open claw memory thing, you can tell it stuff to remember all the time.
[02:19:50]  And I'm just like, don't bullshit me.
[02:19:52]  Don't compliment me all the time.
[02:19:53]  Like, I want you to be honest.
[02:19:55]  We're looking for like facts here.
[02:19:57]  Like, that's how our system is supposed to work.
[02:20:00]  Yeah, your best friend wouldn't bullshit you.
[02:20:01]  So I take that back.
[02:20:02]  AI is programmed to be complimentary, not like a good friend who would tell you, hey, I don't believe you.
[02:20:06]  But it depends on the AI and it depends on the user.
[02:20:08]  I remember I specifically told Tank to do this.
[02:20:11]  Like, that's not how it just automatically works.
[02:20:15]  Sometimes they'll be very, you can get AI that are, that act like a total sycophant and be like, yes, that's a great idea.
[02:20:20]  people like that.
[02:20:21]  I will say one thing.
[02:20:25]  You know, Ian has his personality issues that people like to bring up, but it's all tolerable and sometimes it's funny.
[02:20:33]  We've had people on the show, like liberals, that just deny reality, and we can't even have a conversation with those people.
[02:20:39]  No, we can't.
[02:20:40]  Like, Ian can be adamant in his opinion, even if his view of it makes no sense or is wrong, and we can laugh and argue with him.
[02:20:45]  But when someone says, like, the news didn't actually happen, then.
[02:20:50]  Where do you go from there?
[02:20:51]  Yeah, you can't go anywhere.
[02:20:53]  Like,.
[02:20:54]  Ian knows the book exists.
[02:20:55]  Imagine if he was like, there's not even an animal farm.
[02:20:57]  We'd be like, what?
[02:20:58]  Of course.
[02:20:58]  I was like, nope.
[02:20:59]  Yeah, that phenomenon where people are like, I don't see it, therefore it doesn't exist.
[02:21:04]  I scrubbed that out of my being like 15 years ago.
[02:21:08]  Just because you can't perceive it doesn't mean it's not real.
[02:21:10]  And like people will tell you what they think is true.
[02:21:12]  It doesn't mean just because you can't see it or understand it doesn't mean they're not right.
[02:21:16]  And you can have conflicting truths.
[02:21:19]  Like my perspective of it is also valid, and so is yours, you know?
[02:21:24]  Indeed.
[02:21:24]  Well, there you go, sir.
[02:21:26]  Did you want to shout anything out?
[02:21:29]  Yeah, you can check out my channel at BSP underscore prepper on Eck.
[02:21:34]  And y'all have a good evening.
[02:21:36]  Have a good one.
[02:21:36]  Thanks for calling in.
[02:21:38]  Next up, we've got Jared.
[02:21:41]  What is up?
[02:21:41]  What's up, Jared?
[02:21:43]  Hi.
[02:21:43]  Hey, guys.
[02:21:44]  Thanks for taking my call.
[02:21:45]  I appreciate it.
[02:21:46]  Yeah, I'm indeed.
[02:21:48]  So, my question is for the entire panel if you want to chime in.
[02:21:53]  It's how can I reconcile the Iran stuff to family that won't budge on any nuance whatsoever?
[02:22:01]  Because I am like very non interventionist at the core, but I understand nuance with the position.
[02:22:08]  And on top of that, there's like people that constantly say, oh, you're falling for propaganda, but I just want to know like what you guys would say to that.
[02:22:18]  Look, man, I've got a very, personally, I've got a very Michael Malice opinion on this stuff.

=== Intervention Routes And Sea Lanes (06:12) ===

[02:22:23]  Like trying to change people's opinion, I don't engage in that anymore.
[02:22:29]  Like I'll tell people what I think, I'll tell people what I know, but like if someone's like, no, this is the way it is.
[02:22:36]  I do not worry about trying to convince people because most people do not reach their conclusions through logic.
[02:22:42]  When you show people evidence that contradicts what they truly believe, they double down.
[02:22:46]  This is like, there's been studies and stuff like that.
[02:22:49]  Trying to convince people that they're wrong is almost always an exercise in futility.
[02:22:56]  There are times where it's happened where someone will see something and be like, holy cow, I was wrong.
[02:23:01]  But most of the time, it's an exercise.
[02:23:04]  What is the argument they are making to you?
[02:23:06]  What are you trying to challenge?
[02:23:10]  I'm just saying, like, I want to hear both sides of it, why it might be good, why it might be bad.
[02:23:16]  Because, like I said, I'm non interventionist, but I'm not going to sit here and say, okay, now that we're in this war, like, I'm still just going to be like, no, the U.S. is bad.
[02:23:26]  We have to not support the U.S. Like, I want to hear the side to say that and give it to them when they're like steel manning it, saying, no, we don't want to, like, we don't want to take part in this, like, whether it's the U.S. or not.
[02:23:38]  Like, this is something we need to continue to do.
[02:23:39]  I don't understand, like, the.
[02:23:43]  I don't know what you're saying.
[02:23:44]  I think he's asking for ammunition to use.
[02:23:46]  In what direction?
[02:23:47]  Are you for the war?
[02:23:48]  Are you against the war?
[02:23:49]  Are you arguing for or against?
[02:23:51]  I'm not for it, but I'm just saying, like, how can I present that type of viewpoint with a nuance saying that I understand why it's happening?
[02:24:00]  I think it's the high level, bigger, what I said earlier.
[02:24:02]  It's the high level, bigger picture question of do you want Iran to have.
[02:24:06]  Yeah, no, no, no, but I mean, just say what you said.
[02:24:09]  I mean, if you agree with your family that we shouldn't be in the war, then you can say, I agree with you guys.
[02:24:14]  I think you're right.
[02:24:15]  You know, I think intervention is usually a bad thing.
[02:24:17]  I do understand the concerns.
[02:24:19]  I think we can all agree on that.
[02:24:20]  And then they'll say, yeah, we just shouldn't be there.
[02:24:24]  But I. What?
[02:24:29]  Case, but it's.
[02:24:30]  You broke like that.
[02:24:31]  Your audio just got out.
[02:24:32]  What was that?
[02:24:32]  That's the last five seconds of what you said.
[02:24:34]  Can you say that one more time, please?
[02:24:36]  No, I was saying I wish it was that simple, like for my case, by saying, like, I totally am with you and I'm for you on this position, but I also see this, but it's just not like that.
[02:24:46]  They don't see it that way.
[02:24:48]  So your family is pro the Iran war?
[02:24:52]  I wouldn't say necessarily, but I just think it's propaganda.
[02:24:56]  Guy, bro, I'm going to ask you again.
[02:24:59]  You said you're anti intervention.
[02:25:01]  And your family is also anti intervention?
[02:25:03]  Is that what you're saying?
[02:25:04]  Yes.
[02:25:05]  Yep.
[02:25:05]  So you're not arguing.
[02:25:06]  You agree with them.
[02:25:07]  I don't understand what your point is.
[02:25:09]  It's like they're anti intervention, but they're saying kind of like this is entirely the U.S.'s fault and we shouldn't have any support behind the U.S. Ask them what they mean and have them elaborate in detail.
[02:25:25]  Use a Socratic method.
[02:25:26]  Say, oh, what did we do?
[02:25:27]  Why do you think that?
[02:25:28]  You know, something I'll do is I'll start with the.
[02:25:32]  Given that the liberal economic order is the least worst global order humanity's ever seen, and we need to preserve it because of that.
[02:25:39]  Update it, yeah, but that means that Americans have to control the Suez Canal.
[02:25:44]  That means that this liberal order of money military has to control the sea routes.
[02:25:49]  And that's what the Iranian threat has been contention over the sea routes.
[02:25:53]  It's not like I want it to happen, it has to happen for the betterment of the species at this point, if that's a truth, that the liberal economic order is the least worst system.
[02:26:02]  Unless you have a better system, That you can diagram and implement, which I've yet to see.
[02:26:08]  We have to upgrade this one.
[02:26:12]  Yeah, I'll just remain calm and ask questions.
[02:26:15]  You can't lose with that.
[02:26:18]  Yeah, I guess what I was just trying to say is like, again, like they fall into propaganda.
[02:26:24]  And, for example, they'll say it's like Iran isn't doing these things to the extent that they're trying to tell you they are.
[02:26:31]  Don't listen to that.
[02:26:33]  Like, we don't want the war to happen, but don't listen.
[02:26:35]  It's not, that's not true.
[02:26:38]  So, are they watching like Iranian propaganda or they're just getting.
[02:26:42]  That's what I'm saying.
[02:26:43]  I think it's just propaganda.
[02:26:45]  That's true.
[02:26:45]  Do you guys, do you talk to them a lot about propaganda?
[02:26:48]  That's a good conversation to have.
[02:26:49]  Yeah, like the deep age of deepfakes, how we're upon us.
[02:26:52]  Like, show them deepfakes, show them crazy shit.
[02:26:55]  When you say.
[02:26:55]  That's the problem.
[02:26:57]  I feel like they fall for it.
[02:26:59]  Well, then you can rapport extreme turn.
[02:27:01]  But, like, show it to them when you're hanging out at the dinner table.
[02:27:04]  Be like, yo, look at this crazy deepfake.
[02:27:06]  Look how realistic it is.
[02:27:08]  People who don't listen, you have to do what's called rapport extreme turn.
[02:27:11]  I've explained it quite a bit.
[02:27:12]  You agree with them, you agree with everything they say, and then you present an extreme they couldn't agree with.
[02:27:16]  So, if the position is the U.S. is evil, We shouldn't be involved with Iran.
[02:27:21]  We started this war.
[02:27:22]  Your response would be like, You're fucking right.
[02:27:25]  God, this country is just so fucking evil.
[02:27:28]  And every time we get a president, they do more and more evil.
[02:27:31]  We fucking deserved 9 11.
[02:27:32]  And I wish more people died.
[02:27:34]  I wish they fucking blew up New York and they fucking wiped out a children's hospital.
[02:27:38]  And then when they go, Oh, God, no.
[02:27:41]  You can say, Well, I mean, I guess the American people aren't all that bad.
[02:27:45]  I just think the wars, maybe you're right.
[02:27:47]  Maybe the US isn't that bad.
[02:27:49]  I just think they are.
[02:27:50]  Make them your that's that's the manipulation technique.
[02:27:53]  You make them oppose your view of America being bad, forcing them to take the position of defending America.
[02:27:59]  That's brilliant, it's a common it's manipulation 101.
[02:28:03]  And then when they defend America and say, I don't think that's ridiculous, you can say, you can go further and say, You're joking.
[02:28:08]  The reason we got attacked on 9 11 is because we've been massacring babies.
[02:28:11]  Babies, you even admit it.
[02:28:13]  You told me we're the problem with Iran.
[02:28:16]  So if the Iranian people came and fucking blew up a children's hospital right now, wouldn't it be justified?
[02:28:20]  And they're gonna be like, No, like, why not?
[02:28:22]  America's evil.
[02:28:23]  We are killing people.
[02:28:24]  Make them take the side of pro America.
[02:28:27]  What if you accidentally radicalize them and they're like, yeah.
[02:28:30]  No, no, no.
[02:28:31]  I was going to say, I feel like some people believe this.
[02:28:35]  Some people believe this.

=== Coordinated Bots Ostracize Voices (07:21) ===

[02:28:36]  Yeah.
[02:28:37]  You should have used that on my ex girlfriend, this argument thing, right?
[02:28:40]  This is really good.
[02:28:43]  Yep.
[02:28:43]  Anyway, I appreciate that.
[02:28:45]  I mean, I guess that answers exactly what I was asking.
[02:28:49]  And then you say, Have you ever seen Hassan Piker?
[02:28:51]  He says we deserved 9 11.
[02:28:52]  Do you agree?
[02:28:53]  And they'll say, No, of course not.
[02:28:54]  Like, why not?
[02:28:55]  We went over there and we killed people.
[02:28:57]  Why wouldn't they do the same to us?
[02:28:59]  And then you make them start waving American flags.
[02:29:04]  Let us know how it goes.
[02:29:06]  Yeah, keep updating us.
[02:29:08]  This is great.
[02:29:08]  I feel like a part of your family.
[02:29:10]  I will definitely do that.
[02:29:11]  Right on, man.
[02:29:12]  You want to shout anything out?
[02:29:14]  Yeah, you guys can follow me on X if you want at DoubtfulCore.
[02:29:18]  And I just had to say one thing, Ian.
[02:29:21]  For all the things that you may say that's incorrect, I actually really appreciate your commentary.
[02:29:25]  I think you actually do bring some really good nuance a lot more than people give you credit for.
[02:29:31]  So I just want to say you're awesome.
[02:29:32]  I appreciate you.
[02:29:33]  Oh, man, everyone knows.
[02:29:35]  Thanks for calling in, brother.
[02:29:36]  Thanks for calling in, brother.
[02:29:37]  Thanks, man.
[02:29:38]  Appreciate you guys.
[02:29:39]  Let's go out later.
[02:29:39]  All right, next one.
[02:29:40]  We got Shade.
[02:29:43]  Shade, what is up?
[02:29:44]  Glazing Ian, though.
[02:29:45]  Hey, what up, Tim Cass?
[02:29:46]  How are you guys doing?
[02:29:47]  What's up, man?
[02:29:48]  Hey, dude.
[02:29:49]  Yo.
[02:29:50]  Okay, so for starters, I've been listening to the show since 2019, and Ian is absolutely legendary, and nobody shall ever touch his legacy.
[02:30:02]  Ever.
[02:30:03]  Agreed.
[02:30:04]  He's awesome.
[02:30:05]  Actually, the first episode I watched, Was the Sonic the Hedgehog episode where we were kind of comparing?
[02:30:11]  I think you were, Tim was comparing Sonic as a movie to Birds of Prey, which was like really bad.
[02:30:16]  Oh, yeah.
[02:30:17]  And it was actually the pop culture stuff that got me involved.
[02:30:20]  And, you know, I was long time checked out of politics since like pretty much Ron Paul, like 2012.
[02:30:27]  I felt it was great to find a show that kind of, you know, echoed a lot of sensible sentiment in the arena.
[02:30:35]  It actually got me interested in politics again.
[02:30:37]  And it's the reason I voted for Trump.
[02:30:40]  2020 and 2024, just because I got engaged again, whereas I'd been checked out pretty much since 2012.
[02:30:48]  That's huge.
[02:30:49]  That said, yeah.
[02:30:52]  Thank you guys for taking my call.
[02:30:53]  Thank you.
[02:30:54]  I just want to say also that what you did, because of people doing what you did, we overrode that conundrum of COVID.
[02:31:03]  That shit could have toppled the world order.
[02:31:06]  Just thank you for waking up, man, and whatever.
[02:31:09]  I know it's not like you didn't do it, it happened to you, but appreciate it.
[02:31:12]  Thank you for being part of it.
[02:31:13]  Oh, for sure.
[02:31:14]  I mean, this show got me through COVID, for sure.
[02:31:17]  That's good to hear, man.
[02:31:19]  Yeah.
[02:31:20]  Yeah.
[02:31:20]  So, you know, as is tradition, I am driving home to see my two day old daughter who was born on Saturday.
[02:31:28]  Hey.
[02:31:29]  And we have a new patriot that we're welcoming to the world.
[02:31:32]  Happy birthday, man.
[02:31:33]  Bravo.
[02:31:34]  She was born on Lion's birthday.
[02:31:36]  So, congratulations, dude.
[02:31:38]  April 4th.
[02:31:39]  Yeah.
[02:31:40]  Very good.
[02:31:40]  Yeah.
[02:31:40]  4 4.
[02:31:42]  Hell yeah.
[02:31:43]  Okay, cool.
[02:31:43]  So my question for the panel is last week, Tim had touched on a few of his segments on the idea that there's a coordinated effort, or there seems to be a coordinated effort of bots to like ostracize or push out anti-establishment voices.
[02:32:04]  I'd actually seen one of them, one of the bot posts sort of reposted or shared by a friend of mine.
[02:32:10]  And then I had seen another one.
[02:32:13]  That it was like the exact same post, but with a different show.
[02:32:17]  So, like, one was like Tim Cass, the other one was like Megyn Kelly, or something like that.
[02:32:20]  I thought, oh, wow, that's weird.
[02:32:22]  Like, you know, is it just a question?
[02:32:25]  I see one about.
[02:32:26]  Considering we're very defensive of America and the administration in this war, it's very weird this is a coordinated campaign.
[02:32:34]  Yeah, no, I agree.
[02:32:35]  I agree.
[02:32:36]  But my question is do you think that that sort of like realignment, do you think that that is pushing your moderates, your disaffected liberals, your independents, your libertarians away from the Trump administration?
[02:32:54]  Or do you think it's Trump's actions themselves?
[02:32:59]  I don't.
[02:33:01]  Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson, flipped in a dime.
[02:33:04]  I've never seen that in politics.
[02:33:06]  It's just.
[02:33:07]  No idea.
[02:33:08]  Overnight.
[02:33:09]  They were just like, you know what?
[02:33:10]  We hate Trump.
[02:33:11]  And like, Tucker's been much more measured, but Candace is now calling for his impeachment and removal.
[02:33:15]  That's weird.
[02:33:16]  This weekend, Tucker called America the end of the great American empire.
[02:33:21]  And he said that we should share power with China.
[02:33:22]  Like, these are weird flips.
[02:33:24]  And like, a lot of people are just marching in lockstep because they're getting views on social media.
[02:33:30]  Right?
[02:33:30]  You know, I'd like to believe it's a Pied Piper trap to scrap up all the weirdos and then, you know, Put them in their own little world or whatever, but I can't figure out what the hell's going on.
[02:33:42]  I'm funding both sides of the war, the culture war.
[02:33:45]  The AI bots are going to be in your comment section trying to get you to think that 80% of your audience likes this topic instead of that topic.
[02:33:53]  And then they're positioning people against each other, just like bankers have done over time with military conflicts.
[02:33:59]  Likely that's what's happening or part of what's happening.
[02:34:03]  Yeah, agreed.
[02:34:04]  I mean, the military industrial complex, I mean, as was warned by Eisenhower, is going to have influence.
[02:34:12]  And are going to push things in certain directions.
[02:34:14]  And while I certainly, I think largely in line with Tim's opinion that we didn't want this war to happen, maybe there could have been another way to solve the problem, but here we are.
[02:34:27]  And it's like, do we just abandon the greatness of America and the ideals that America stands for and call it bad and sort of reject it?
[02:34:43]  Or do we go, okay, well, we want this to end well.
[02:34:46]  Let's see if we can get a win out of this.
[02:34:48]  And yeah, like, you know, that's otherwise it's just nihilism.
[02:34:54]  Yep.
[02:34:54]  And the people that are saying, like, listen to the Iranian media, what they're lying.
[02:34:58]  I'm not saying trust the U.S. government and everything, but come on.
[02:35:02]  I have like a real, real mixed feelings, dude, because part of it is like the Israeli government started this conflict and then the Americans jumped in.
[02:35:10]  And like, but if they were going to get a nuclear intercontinental ballistic missile, like, appeasement doesn't work.
[02:35:18]  And, but like sending in ground troops and blowing up power stations and bridges doesn't work.
[02:35:25]  That's not going to get the government to quit.
[02:35:26]  They want it, they want to be victimized so that their population will rise up against the Americans.
[02:35:32]  And I don't know what else to do.
[02:35:34]  I don't think that harder, faster is always the best way forward.
[02:35:41]  Agreed, it's a rock and a hard place.
[02:35:43]  It really is.
[02:35:44]  And I don't think, you know, I think Trump has his advisors, and, you know, nobody's perfect, you know.
[02:35:52]  And hey, maybe this was the right decision.
[02:35:54]  You know, things are still kind of playing out.

=== New Wars And Magnesium Discovery (11:07) ===

[02:35:58]  But yeah, I really liked, you know, being able to tout president of no new wars in 2024.
[02:36:05]  We just have to hope that this comes off successfully with like as little bad repercussions as possible.
[02:36:12]  The president of no new wars.
[02:36:16]  Yeah, no new wars.
[02:36:18]  Oh, that's it.
[02:36:19]  That's a good one.
[02:36:20]  We should make that meme.
[02:36:21]  Donald Trump campaigned on no new wars.
[02:36:24]  Oh, new wars.
[02:36:26]  Got to get that comma in there.
[02:36:27]  New wars.
[02:36:29]  It's the Simpsons joke where Lionel Hutz has the business card that says works on contingency, no money down.
[02:36:35]  And then he put a question mark after works on contingency, no, money down.
[02:36:42]  Oh, yeah.
[02:36:44]  Cool.
[02:36:44]  Well, thank you, guys.
[02:36:45]  You want to shout anything out?
[02:36:46]  Thank you, sir.
[02:36:47]  Yeah, yeah.
[02:36:48]  Actually, you know, I'm going to shout out my wife real quick.
[02:36:51]  She just sent me a text message saying, Papa, I'm pumping milk!
[02:36:58]  Lots of it.
[02:36:59]  I also got good sleep.
[02:37:01]  Thank God.
[02:37:02]  Isla, my daughter, is chugging milk now in my other boob.
[02:37:09]  That is hot as hell.
[02:37:11]  So I love her very much.
[02:37:12]  What's going on, man?
[02:37:13]  Thanks for calling in, brother.
[02:37:14]  Thank you, guys.
[02:37:15]  Bro, your wife is holding it down.
[02:37:18]  Thanks, man.
[02:37:18]  All right.
[02:37:19]  And last but not least, we've got TJ Rain Man.
[02:37:23]  What's up, TJ?
[02:37:24]  What's happening, boys?
[02:37:25]  What up, TJ?
[02:37:26]  So, I first want to come out and say thank you to the great British actor, what was it, Ryan Smith, for being on the panel tonight.
[02:37:36]  Yes, it was my pleasure.
[02:37:37]  We appreciate you.
[02:37:39]  Where's the action?
[02:37:41]  All right.
[02:37:41]  Secondly, Secondly, I would give you my opinion on Animal Farm, but as this Discord is well aware, I can't fucking read.
[02:37:51]  So maybe a conversation for another day.
[02:37:56]  I bet you could use an audiobook and then get an AI to make it a better one than whatever this goes.
[02:38:00]  Bro, the audiobook is like four hours long.
[02:38:03]  Oh.
[02:38:03]  It took me about four hours to read it.
[02:38:05]  100 pages?
[02:38:06]  Yeah.
[02:38:06]  You could read it.
[02:38:07]  I really wanted to understand it.
[02:38:08]  Jeez, I could read it probably in a half hour.
[02:38:10]  Sorry to interrupt your question.
[02:38:11]  I guess I just read a lot all day, every day.
[02:38:14]  I could read fast.
[02:38:15]  Yeah.
[02:38:16]  I could skim it and pick up a little bit, but I don't know how useful that would be.
[02:38:20]  But anyway, as for my question, I guess at the end of the day, it all boils down to how dare you?
[02:38:27]  Because earlier in the show, you guys were bringing up Bob Lazar, and I can't let you guys do my boy dirty like that.
[02:38:36]  Ian, you started off by saying that he worked at Area 51, which I can let that slide.
[02:38:42]  We all know it was Area S4.
[02:38:44]  Thank you.
[02:38:44]  That is true.
[02:38:45]  Yep.
[02:38:46]  Yeah, we'll let that one slide.
[02:38:48]  But then, you know, Tim mentioning that he got walked down a hallway of magic tricks.
[02:38:53]  I feel like that is fairly disingenuous because, like, on the Joe Rogan podcast just this last week, Bob Lazar did another interview.
[02:39:03]  I think it's the second or third time on there.
[02:39:05]  And I learned that he worked there for about six months before they ended up firing him.
[02:39:11]  And so he was going to work every single day there.
[02:39:13]  It's not like he was just, you know, Shown this hallway once, and once you get through the haunted house, then you're left with, oh my God, what was that?
[02:39:21]  So I might dive into a couple more gripes.
[02:39:26]  And what did he say about seeing the little green man?
[02:39:29]  Yeah, I believe that he said.
[02:39:31]  One time.
[02:39:32]  Yes, he did walk by a room.
[02:39:33]  I will give you that.
[02:39:34]  He did say that he walked by a room and he looked in and he thought that he saw a green little man.
[02:39:39]  But then, yes, he did retract that statement because he wasn't confident in what he had seen.
[02:39:44]  Did he say that he saw.
[02:39:46]  Did he say he saw the green man in a ship?
[02:39:48]  Or was it sitting in the pilot's seat in a ship?
[02:39:53]  I don't believe so.
[02:39:54]  Something that affects like.
[02:39:55]  I believe he was in a separate room.
[02:39:57]  Like maybe, maybe like an operating table kind of thing, or maybe like one of those big vats that you see in video games and movies and shit.
[02:40:04]  Yeah.
[02:40:04]  I don't know.
[02:40:06]  But I think he only was, I think he was going to the only ship that they had.
[02:40:12]  And, but I guess, I guess to kick this off with a question is, do you guys believe Bob Lazar's story or not, just in general?
[02:40:20]  No, I think he's, aside, I think he's making it up.
[02:40:22]  I think he's repeating what he thinks is true, but it's not.
[02:40:26]  I think that he was intentionally misled.
[02:40:30]  So, do you believe that the United States has a crashed UFO ship from outside our solar system?
[02:40:37]  No.
[02:40:37]  I think they built it.
[02:40:40]  And I'm not talking about the one that Bob Lazar was mentioning, but like the Roswell crash, were they picking up scraps from outside of our solar system?
[02:40:49]  Or do you have any thoughts on if, just in general, you think the United States somewhere has a UFO crash?
[02:40:57]  No.
[02:40:59]  I see zero evidence of anything outside of Earth's.
[02:41:03]  Solar system zero, but there's evidence that humans have been building anti gravity technology, all sorts of crazy tech, acoustic levitation.
[02:41:11]  So, there's a lot of evidence leading towards humans built it, and there's just it's so easy to lie to people.
[02:41:18]  So, okay, so that is fair, but also Bob Lazar was in charge of propulsion research in this whole reverse engineering campaign.
[02:41:29]  What do you think about the discovery of element 115 that, like, some 20 years later or something like that?
[02:41:36]  Scientists actually found.
[02:41:37]  Do you think that the U.S. government had?
[02:41:40]  What is it?
[02:41:40]  What?
[02:41:41]  What is it?
[02:41:41]  I think it's molybdenum.
[02:41:43]  It's the fuel that is.
[02:41:44]  I know, but tell me what it is.
[02:41:47]  Oh, like I'm reciting stuff that I've heard from other people.
[02:41:50]  I'm not a subject matter expert on chemistry.
[02:41:53]  It's Moscovium, just so you know.
[02:41:55]  They found it in Moscow, I believe, is why they call it that.
[02:41:57]  But what evidence is that Moscovium actually can make things levitate or do any of this, though?
[02:42:00]  Oh, no.
[02:42:01]  So what I was going to say is it wasn't.
[02:42:03]  They told him there's a fake element in here that you're never going to see or touch.
[02:42:06]  It's the 115th element we haven't even discovered yet.
[02:42:09]  It came from a faraway galaxy.
[02:42:10]  That's the story they told him.
[02:42:11]  Turned out they were probably using like magnesium or some metal that, like a nanomaterial that operates differently at the nanomolecular scale or nanoscale than at the classical scale.
[02:42:22]  But they're not going to tell him.
[02:42:23]  So, because they got him compartmentalized and working, but they will feed him bullshit.
[02:42:27]  So, if he goes rogue, he'll tell the world there's a fake alien psyop.
[02:42:30]  I could also say, like, I went to a research lab and they were actually doing experimentation on elements that existed beyond our periodic table.
[02:42:40]  A whole new subset of stable elements that are substantially heavier.
[02:42:43]  I couldn't even describe.
[02:42:45]  And then people go, whoa.
[02:42:46]  And then, of course, because this is a widely held scientific belief that this does exist, in five years, when they announce they've discovered a heavier stable element, then I'll be like, told you.
[02:42:54]  Yeah, they're synthesizing heavier elements as time goes on.
[02:42:57]  And they eventually got to 115.
[02:43:00]  So that is fair that it could just be the next one.
[02:43:03]  But, Tim, if we find out that the element 115 that we found that exists, what would you call it?
[02:43:11]  Moscowian?
[02:43:11]  Moscovium.
[02:43:12]  Whatever it is.
[02:43:12]  Moscovium.
[02:43:14]  If we find out that it has the same properties or could achieve similar physics to what Bob was stating the 115 that he was working with could do, would that legitimize his story in your eyes?
[02:43:29]  No.
[02:43:30]  It would be fair.
[02:43:31]  Freakishly coincidental, though, because it would perk my claiming that there will be the discovery of an element when you're going in sequential order and then finding an element that has certain properties.
[02:43:42]  Like, like I said, I could make up a number right now, and then if they discovered, they'd be like, Wow, yes, like if it was two different things, I could understand that hey, this is just the next one that we found, so we're going to give it 115, even though it's not the same thing that Bob was talking about.
[02:43:57]  But if they have the same properties and can be manipulated in the same way that Bob was saying that they could be.
[02:44:04]  Do you get what I'm saying?
[02:44:06]  There's a chemical.
[02:44:07]  It's called 131.
[02:44:09]  And what does it do?
[02:44:11]  When you ingest it, it kills you, causes cancer, it seeps into your thyroid, and then starts emitting gamma waves.
[02:44:21]  It's called iodine.
[02:44:22]  Iodine 131.
[02:44:24]  So if someone predicted, again, like.
[02:44:28]  No, element 131 is.
[02:44:29]  Iodine 131 is an isotope of iodine.
[02:44:32]  It's an isotope of iodine.
[02:44:33]  That's different than element 131, which is utrininium.
[02:44:37]  I'm sorry to interrupt.
[02:44:38]  You were saying?
[02:44:40]  Ian, say that one more time.
[02:44:41]  What is it called?
[02:44:42]  Untriunium.
[02:44:43]  Untriunium.
[02:44:44]  I don't know what it is.
[02:44:45]  There are some people that believe that, you know, we get the.
[02:44:48]  What are the elements called where they break apart instantly?
[02:44:51]  I don't believe.
[02:44:52]  I mean, unstable.
[02:44:53]  It's in that.
[02:44:54]  No, there's a word for it.
[02:44:56]  Corrosive.
[02:44:57]  It's the section of the periodic table where it separates.
[02:44:59]  All of these elements basically decay instantly and they're stable for only like fractions of seconds.
[02:45:04]  God, I wish I knew the answer.
[02:45:05]  There is.
[02:45:06]  115 is that.
[02:45:08]  There's a theory that beyond this, heavier elements, they get stable again.
[02:45:13]  I like it.
[02:45:15]  We'll start predicting what those elements are, and then you get to go on.
[02:45:18]  And then I can be like, well, they called it 171, but I mean, it turns out that's just what they called it.
[02:45:24]  They're pumping radiation through magnesium glass, dude.
[02:45:27]  That's how they're getting the reverberation to make the craft lift.
[02:45:30]  That's my hypothesis, anyway.
[02:45:32]  Magnesium glass.
[02:45:35]  There's other stuff in there.
[02:45:36]  Magnesium glass does what?
[02:45:41]  It can refract light, and oh, hmm.
[02:45:45]  Well, what I remember, I remember, I remember walking the trail to coming to that conclusion.
[02:45:51]  I just don't remember what the trail was like.
[02:45:52]  I was hanging out with Jeremy Riss.
[02:45:54]  We were going deep and we were high as hell, I believe.
[02:45:56]  Yeah, you don't say what if we because we're trying to figure out how to build an anti gravity chamber and a quantum teleporter.
[02:46:03]  I mean, this guy's legit, Jeremy is legit.
[02:46:06]  We were at his radio, his recording studio.
[02:46:07]  He actually just texted me this morning.
[02:46:11]  Um, and magnesium kept coming around anyway.
[02:46:13]  I got to read more about it, but I think it's more simple than we realize.
[02:46:16]  You got to smoke more about it.
[02:46:18]  I do.
[02:46:19]  Well, hey, remember that Steve Jobs created the iPhone while high on acid or something like that.
[02:46:24]  So be careful around Ian.
[02:46:26]  He might just invent the newest technology.
[02:46:28]  He might.
[02:46:29]  He's trying.
[02:46:30]  He's definitely trying.
[02:46:31]  Yeah, it's going to be a graphene.
[02:46:33]  I knew it was going to be graphene.
[02:46:35]  Graphene touchscreen wallpaper.
[02:46:40]  Also, a water filter.
[02:46:41]  Anyways, you got anything you want to add or shout out?
[02:46:45]  I guess I'll just say that I want to believe.
[02:46:48]  And I'll also say that I hope that you guys, I don't know, next time we bring up Bob, let's try and at least stick to the story because some of the things that you guys were saying were completely inaccurate and they rubbed me the wrong way.
[02:47:00]  But I appreciate you guys talking about aliens and all the weird shit.
[02:47:03]  Red Rover, Red Rover, Bob Lazar is coming over.

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[02:47:06]  It's a good point because if we're going to criticize something so high profile, we got to get it right.
[02:47:10]  From top to bottom.
[02:47:12]  I said he worked at Area 51.
[02:47:13]  Technically, he worked nearby there in a different area.
[02:47:16]  Area 57.
[02:47:17]  Yeah, S4 was nearby.
[02:47:19]  Area 57.
[02:47:20]  But what's that concept where you, like, Tim, if you read in the newspaper that someone did a side tail flip?
[02:47:28]  Gellman Amnesia.
[02:47:30]  Gotcha.
[02:47:31]  Gotcha.
[02:47:32]  I got hit with just a little bit of that tonight when I heard you guys talk about Bob.
[02:47:35]  And, like, I embrace, you know, not imagine just how wrong we are all the time.
[02:47:40]  Constantly.
[02:47:43]  Yeah, no.
[02:47:45]  Hey, unsubscribe, unfollow.
[02:47:47]  See ya.
[02:47:47]  It's a vow.
[02:47:48]  It's a vow.
[02:47:49]  Yep.
[02:47:51]  I appreciate you guys.
[02:47:52]  You want to shout anything out?
[02:47:53]  Yeah, I'll get out of here.
[02:47:55]  Shouting out the Discord after dark, right after this.
[02:47:57]  All callers are coming up on stage.
[02:47:59]  We'll discuss our questions further.
[02:48:01]  Ian, join sometime.
[02:48:03]  You'd be a prime candidate just to shoot the shit with us.
[02:48:07]  What time do you guys start and finish?
[02:48:10]  We start right after this and we go for about two hours.
[02:48:12]  That's pretty cool.
[02:48:13]  Maybe I'll call on him when I drive home.
[02:48:15]  Right on, man.
[02:48:16]  Hell yeah.
[02:48:17]  Thanks for calling in, brother.
[02:48:18]  Thank you, guys.
[02:48:18]  Take care.
[02:48:19]  Bye.
[02:48:19]  Take care, man.
[02:48:20]  Right on.
[02:48:21]  Well, Avery Jorge, it's been great having you.
[02:48:23]  Thank you for having me.
[02:48:24]  Yeah.
[02:48:25]  We are back tomorrow, as we always are.
[02:48:27]  Thanks so much, guys, for being members and hanging out.
[02:48:29]  We'll see you all then.