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Feb. 20, 2026 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Tommy Robinson RETURNS To The US, The FIGHT Against Islamization of Europe | Timcast IRL #1454

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ian crossland
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libby emmons
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tim pool
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tommy robinson
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phil labonte
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Supreme Court Strikes Down Trump's Tariffs 00:15:06
tim pool
The Supreme Court has struck down Donald Trump's emergency tariff powers in a major blow to his foreign policy trade negotiation leverage.
And I got to be honest, I'm going to cut right to the chase.
I'm a huge fan of Trump's tariffs.
I'm a fan of his strategies and plans on this one.
I think ultimately this will be very, very bad for these United States because we simultaneously have the offshoring of our jobs and our manufacturing with the opening of our borders and the flooding of illegal immigrants.
So our low-skill labor is being shipped overseas while we're getting a flood of low-skill laborers.
This is a recipe for disaster in this country.
So, in fact, we're not going to focus too much on that because we have a much bigger story for all of you today.
And it is the return to the United States of the legendary Tommy Robinson.
tommy robinson
Thank you, Tim.
It's a good reception.
tim pool
Who are you?
What do you do?
tommy robinson
Who am I?
unidentified
What do I do?
tommy robinson
Well, I'm a journalist from the UK.
I wasn't a journalist always.
I was a street activist.
I started off in 2009 combating and discussing problems with mass open border immigration, specifically from Islamic nations.
I was born in Luton Town, which is 30 miles north of London.
When I was born in 1982, there was one mosque.
There's now 45.
I've seen the change to my town.
I've seen the problems.
Luton was named by the CIA as the epicenter for terrorist atrocities across Europe.
I've seen it all.
So I don't talk about what I've read in a book.
I talk about life experience.
I've seen the loss of freedom.
I've seen the two-tier policing.
I've seen the weakness and the cowardice by authorities to deal with these gangs.
What you've seen is in Minnesota, you know, the little thing you've seen with the Somalians.
Well, I've watched this my whole life.
Yeah.
The inability to tackle crimes from a certain community in the town.
Kid gloves for every other community.
Iron fists for every other community, but kid gloves for the Islamic community.
So I've seen lots of problems.
I started talking about them in 2009.
I formed a street protest movement called the English Defence League.
We were pretty lively.
I'm not going to lie.
tim pool
Lively.
tommy robinson
Lively is one word.
You have to remember at that time, you know, we all now talk about grooming.
You've heard about grooming gangs.
Grooming gangs is rape jihad.
They're not grooming gangs.
Grooming is something you do to a dog when you groom it.
We're talking about young children being kidnapped, prostitute, raped, and murdered in every town and city across the UK that has an Islamic community.
And we're talking about a conspiracy of silence from police leaders, religious leaders, and political leaders who all knew it was happening but let it happen because rather than offending the Islamic community or how dare they be deemed racist.
So police officers didn't want to be called racist.
So rather than be called racist, they literally sacrificed a generation of Britain's daughters.
I came along in 2009, started making a hell of a lot of noise with a hell of a lot of brave people who took to the streets with us.
We took to our streets in our thousands and tens of thousands of time, but we were pretty aggressive on the streets.
We had to be.
It was never going to be female school teachers or nurses that stood up.
tim pool
And they have prosecuted and persecuted you just over and over and over again.
These stories are crazy.
You know, I remember that story where you came out of prison gaunt with a beard.
They were denying you food.
You were in solitary confinement.
We got a lot to talk about.
And your story is a warning for the United States about what happens when it goes too far.
We can see what's going on in the UK and we can see some of it happening in the United States.
And we are fighting back against these open border policies, the destruction of our cultural institutions.
And we are seeing very similar.
You mentioned the Somali stuff.
That's not just Minnesota.
It's Ohio.
It's California.
It's Washington.
So, Tommy, it's amazing to have you here.
It's going to be a great conversation.
Thanks for joining us.
Libby Emmons is hanging out.
libby emmons
I'm Libby Emmons.
I'm hanging out.
Really glad to be here today for this conversation.
I'm with the Postmillennial and also my new podcast, which you can check out at thepodmillennial.com.
tim pool
And to spice things up, we brought Ian.
ian crossland
Let's get flavorful.
Tommy, I thought you were, well, I didn't think you were racist.
I was fully propagandized in 2018 about there's like, oh, Tommy Robinson is the biggest racist on the planet.
I didn't understand the danger of mass migration.
And then we can go into Islam and even talk about like, you know, radical theology as well.
But thanks for being here, man.
tommy robinson
It's good to be here, man.
And I'm honored to be in America.
Do you know how long I've waited to be here?
Do you know how much I've wanted to be here?
tim pool
15 years, right?
tommy robinson
Well, I was here in 2011.
I've got 10 months in jail.
I spent 22 weeks in solitary confinement for two days in New York.
unidentified
Wow.
tommy robinson
So I stupidly come here on another passport.
But I come here to give a warning to America because I wish someone came to my town 30 years ago, 40 years ago, and told us, this is what's going to happen.
This is how it's going to happen.
I've experienced it and gave a warning to the people of England 34 years ago.
So I felt my message was that important to America.
Say, look, we've failed.
Britain's failed.
France has failed.
Germany failed.
It does not work.
So you have to stop it now because we'll get on to the discussion of how powerful that migrant base becomes.
tim pool
Indeed.
We got Phil hanging out.
phil labonte
Hello, everybody.
My name is Phil LeBonte.
I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains.
I'm an anti-communist and counter-revolutionary.
unidentified
Carter?
tommy robinson
It's a good introduction.
carter banks
Dude, thank you so much for coming.
I've been following your work for a long time, and it's really good to have you here.
Very excited for this conversation.
tim pool
I'm going to start with this story from the AP to kick off the American perspective on what's going on.
We have this Supreme Court strikes down Trump's sweeping tariffs, upending central plank of economic agenda.
There are a couple of things to point out in this story as I think it relates to what's going on with the UK, what you're fighting against, Tommy.
And I'll start with.
First, Trump has used this, the tariffs, as leverage for the American worker to stop the offshoring of our jobs when we have a dysfunctional Congress and when our low-skill labor and even mid-skill labor is being shipped off to China, to Indonesia, to Mexico.
But at the same time, our borders have been open effectively for a decade plus.
And there are estimates ranging from 30 to 50 million illegal immigrants in the United States today.
And many people might say, I thought it was 10 to 20.
No, no, no.
10 to 20 million was the number given during the Biden administration when he opened up the border and flooded this country with non-citizens who then he the administration basically killed their their court hearings making them de facto second-class permanent residents what it looks like Trump is doing and I say looks like because it's hard to To know for sure exactly what's going on.
Trump recognizing that the American way of life is being eroded.
You've got, as Tommy pointed out in the intro to the show, the Somali fraud crisis, billions of dollars from American workers and taxpayers being funneled by the Somali migrants and shipped off to Somalia.
And it's happening in Ohio.
It's happening in California.
It's happening in Washington.
It's happening all over.
The problem here, and beyond this story, because admittedly, Trump says he's got a backup plan.
We'll see how this goes.
It's breaking news.
But here's where I see the risk.
And it's a difficult problem to face.
Our Supreme Court, the ultimate law of the land, ruled six to three against Donald Trump.
Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito, and Brett Kavanaugh agreed with Trump's right to issue emergency tariffs under this law.
Unfortunately for us, there are two conservatives who are more concerned with appearing factually correct as the sentence is written than doing what must be done to save your country.
Now, that's a challenging question that one would pose, but I throw it to everyone's favorite president, Abraham Lincoln.
Lincoln gets into office and starts cracking skulls.
And I'm not even trying to be funny.
The man literally pulls a bunch of troops in, says, we're not going to let the South secede.
We're going to crush this, suspending habeas corpus, arresting politicians, arresting journalists, threatening to arrest a sitting Supreme Court justice.
Lincoln said, this country will not fall under my watch.
Now, as much as that's scary, Abraham Lincoln is the most popular president because in a time of great emergency, he used whatever power or maneuver he could to preserve the Union.
Now, I'm not going to say that we're at the exact same period in the United States, but when I see a Supreme Court say, you know, there is an interpretation that Trump could issue these tariffs to protect American interests, he says, well, you know what?
I know the country's burning down.
I know our working class are suffering.
I know we're being defrauded, ripped off every which way, but the rules are the rules, so we have to let them do it.
And this is the attitude, I think, of a dying nation.
libby emmons
I agree with you.
tim pool
This is very Buchanan-esque.
And so when I look to the story for you, Tommy, I think the UK is much, much, much further along than we are.
People are being arrested for things they post on social media.
Young girls are getting raped and trafficked.
And when the fathers try to stop it, the police arrest them instead.
And this is because you have institutions that are more concerned about looking bad than doing what must be done to preserve their country.
tommy robinson
Looking bad and power.
I just think in my hometown in Luton, we had Vauxhall's car plant was there, and they were allowed to ship off.
And it's destroyed the town.
30,000 jobs gone.
And I look at Donald Trump, when he was coming in, what he was saying to the car manufacturers, you're not leaving.
If you leave, we're going to tax you bringing the cars back in.
And I think we needed that.
We needed that to protect our jobs in the UK, to protect Luton.
If we didn't have an airport, Luton is rated the roughest town in Britain.
It's a failure of a town.
It's totally gone.
50% Pakistani, Kashmiri, but the town's gone.
So I look at what Donald Trump was trying to do for American workers and wish we had someone that cared about our workers or cared about British citizens.
But everyone in control of our country at the minute are more cared about global affairs.
tim pool
It feels like across the West, Europe and the United States, but seemingly most pronounced in the UK, or maybe it does feel like it's mostly the UK.
There is an effort to destroy national identity, culture, tradition, a way of life of people.
So we see the Biden administration flooding the United States with 10 to 20 million people from all over the world.
You know, a lot of people immediately just assume it's going to be Guatemala and Mexico.
We had people coming in from Eritrea.
They're in Eastern Africa, fly to West Africa, fly to Brazil, and then come to the Mexican-U.S. border to come into our country illegally.
Slowly over time, we have seen a really great example of what this does.
Polls right now are saying Republicans are bleeding Latino voters over immigration operations.
You know what that means?
It means that there is a voting population in the United States that is significant enough to cost a party an election who cares more about non-citizens than the citizens of this country.
When you keep letting in non-citizens and you give them the right to vote, their interests will lie outside of your nation and it will erode your country.
ian crossland
So, in the case of the British, is it just that I'm wondering, and tell me, no, if I'm wrong, that the royal family, the landowners are like, you know what, we're just going to sell out.
We're going to become a corporate arm of the liberal economic order.
We're going to become part of this technocratic banking establishment out of Switzerland with the World Economic Forum.
They're just like, we're going to sell out our people and our populace.
England's a small territory anyway.
Our holdings are an overseas value.
tommy robinson
I agree.
None of it's a mistake.
Your borders weren't open in the way they were the same time as Canada's, the same time as Britain's, the same time as the whole of Europe's.
None of it's a mistake.
Literally, they're not even, they come off 20 meters off the coast of Libya and NGOs funded by the European Union pick them up, bring them on boats to the next step, and they're funneled the whole way.
It's all organized people trafficking and it's people trafficking to replace voters.
So, like, your borders are open.
If they get to vote, if you look at the swing states in America, the immigration rate went up 700% by the illegals, 700% in swing states.
They wanted to make it so there was no swing states ever again by importing and bringing in voters.
Spain's just about to recognize 1.3 million because they're worried about Vox.
They're worried about the Populist Party who are against immigration.
What do they do?
They give citizenship to over a million people.
Those million people will vote for them.
Now, all they really care about, which we realize, and I can use the rape gangs as an example, all they actually care about is power.
So, and I'll give my hometown again as an example.
I'm from Luton Town.
In 2013, I looked at the demographical change of the communities.
By 2030, which was a 17-year period, the Bangladeshi and Pakistani community were going to increase by 70 to 77%.
The white and black community by 1.2 to 1.4%.
So, the Labour Party, your Democrat Party, know that in Luton, the future is the Islamic community.
The future is not us.
At that point, we're irrelevant.
We are irrelevant.
So, if you even look where they put the Somalis, because when I say they put them, Minnesota, they bought them in.
So, they bought them in from the hottest place in the world and they put them in one of the coldest, yeah, in America.
Why would they do that?
That doesn't make sense.
Why would they even do that?
They do that because they're bringing them in because they want the vote, they want the block future Democrat vote in this area, in this area, in this area.
So, they flood these certain places purposely.
It's important votes to change the demographic future of a nation.
The Republicans would, unless Donald Trump gets rid of the illegal immigrants and they under the Biden regime, they're trying to get the record, allowing them to vote, they're allowed to vote in Europe.
All of this is happening across Europe, you'll never win an election again.
tim pool
But, but let me let me let me explain.
Uh, are you familiar with the electoral college system in the U.S.?
No.
So, we often hear from conservatives that the Democrats want illegal immigrants to vote, and they're hyper-focused on fraud, and that's not actually the issue.
The issue is congressional seats are created based on population size of any type.
tommy robinson
Minnesota has a lot of seats, isn't it?
tim pool
Well, so it's not that it's a lot of seats.
Uh, using California is a really great example.
California, they call themselves a sanctuary state, they're on the border with Mexico, so they basically let illegal immigrants come in.
The census happens every 10 years, 2020, 2030, 2040.
So, they go to California, they say, How many people you got, and they don't ask if you're a citizen.
So, when they're figuring out a congressional district, and they get money for it, so oh, oh, they get money from the federal government.
But here's the thing: amount of people.
AOC's district, Ocasio-Cortez, 775,000 people.
How many are actual citizens?
We don't know.
So, what happens is AOC could hypothetically be in a district of 700,000 citizens and 75,000 non-citizens.
And she says, and the Democrats say, but they're still my constituents.
Now, if you were to remove all those illegal immigrants, they would widen her congressional district and Democrats would lose one seat.
So, every illegal immigrant counts towards a congressional seat.
It doesn't matter if they vote or not.
It creates Democrat seats.
Now, here's the crazy thing.
We don't actually vote for our president.
We vote for electors who then go to Washington, D.C. and cast a vote for president.
There is one elector for each member of Congress.
And then I think we have three for is it three for D.C. Here's how it works.
We have 538.
So if you put a million illegal immigrants into California, California as a state gets one extra vote for president.
It doesn't matter if those illegal immigrants vote or not.
Just by being here, they get counted.
Democrats get extra seats in Congress.
And so what we end up seeing is in Congress right now, it is estimated that if you got rid of all the illegal immigrants, they would lose 12 congressional seats and the Republicans would have a strong majority to control the country.
So they flood them in.
Democrats Flood California With Illegal Immigrants 00:15:12
tim pool
They place them in areas where they need to displace conservative votes.
And the next move they're making, redistricting, they are intentionally now setting up all the blue states.
So they're, let me actually show you how this works.
It's going to blow your mind.
Illinois congressional map.
It's going to blow your mind how we do this.
So you guys have the House of Commons, is that what it's called?
And I believe that's intended to function similarly to like our House of Representatives, in a sense, it represents the people.
So this is how we draw up our maps, a map.
Illinois is a great example.
tommy robinson
They're remapping it.
tim pool
So Illinois doesn't.
tommy robinson
They're doing the same here in the UK.
tim pool
Yep.
They're making it so that, check this out.
Take a look at this district right here from this weird strip of land that cuts.
See this big purple?
That's all conservative.
This city, Champaign and East St. Louis, and I think you got Peoria in there, they are all hyper-liberal, but small populations.
So what did they do?
They cut a line through a large swath of conservative territory to create a specific jurisdiction that is 70% Democrat, guaranteeing they get a seat in Congress.
tommy robinson
Okay.
tim pool
Yep.
tommy robinson
They're reshaping it in order to support their vote bank.
libby emmons
They're doing that in California.
There's a lot of conservatives, but the governor just got the people to vote for a law that says they can bypass the California Constitutional Mandated Commission that does the redistricting so that they can eliminate conservative districts by basically folding smaller amounts of conservatives into larger leftist districts.
And then that way they basically get rid of the Republicans in California.
There's not a single conservative representative from the entire states of New England, even though there's plenty of conservative states.
tim pool
So explain to us how the House of Commons and the House of Lords works in the UK.
tommy robinson
So we've got 650 politicians.
The House of Lords gets selected and rewarded.
Most of them, like now, we're seeing paedophiles being rewarded, criminals being rewarded.
The Labour Party.
tim pool
So it's very similar.
tommy robinson
It's very similar.
Yeah, so if you look at everyone who gets rewarded, it's basically they're a Roman.
That's how it looks like.
ian crossland
Do they get appointed by the government?
The House of Lords.
tommy robinson
So yeah, by the Prime Minister that selects who goes to the House of Lords and then they just reward them.
So they make deals and agreements in politics and then they'll get their seat in the House of Lords.
ian crossland
It's like the Senate, kind of, our version of the Senate.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Like the 100.
Anyway, so that's what it is.
phil labonte
Like the upper house and the lower house.
tommy robinson
What I say is a warning to America is you've had immigration for years.
And when I hear people, I used to hear Americans moan about Hispanic immigration.
And I used to think, you've got no idea, if I'm honest, yeah, with what Joe Biden's just done.
What's happened over the last decade in the United States of America with the open borders and the 10 million or 20 million, it's not Hispanics coming in.
What they've brought in is Afghani, Iraqi, Syrians, Somalis, Eritreans, Sudanese.
Now, the way this works different.
For example, again, I'll just bring it back to my hometown.
I've watched it.
Luton is a very diverse town.
Line up all my friends.
We're all sons of immigrants.
But no one votes in the military fashion that the Islamic community do, right?
So there's 45 mosques and there's the council of mosques.
So the leader of the council and the mosque, all the mosques, even though they hate each other, met some of them, they come together with one leader at the council of mosques.
He sits down with the government and he does a deal for the vote.
They get 50,000 votes.
And literally, when their mosque tells them who to vote, they vote.
ian crossland
Yep.
tommy robinson
That's it.
tim pool
Are you familiar with the revolution in Egypt and how it went down?
There were two revolutions.
tommy robinson
With the Muslim Brotherhood?
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Yes.
It's a really fascinating story.
So I'll give you the quick version because I do want you to talk more and tell us all about what's going on in the UK.
But they had the first revolution and it was, I believe, Mubarak gets removed.
They had 30 years of military leadership.
What happened was you had seven or eight secular factions and the Muslim Brotherhood.
The problem is all the secular factions were in light disagreement with each other, but they wouldn't line up to vote for one cause.
So the Muslim Brotherhood won the election with around 20% of the vote of Egypt.
Well, that's a recipe for disaster because 80% of the country opposes the Muslim Brotherhood.
Didn't matter.
When the Muslim Brotherhood said, you vote for our guy, you vote for our guy.
So they always were unified.
So they win, and you got Morsi in power, who legitimately won the election.
And the second revolution happens because all of these people were like, no, no, no, we don't want the Muslim Brotherhood to take over.
The issue is that most people were decentralized, but the Muslim Brother was organized.
And the end result for Egypt, to deal with the problem of the fact that no matter what they did, the Muslim Brotherhood would always win the elections because when they say vote, the people say yes.
So they went and started gunning them down.
That was the end result.
I don't think anybody wants that to be what happens, but you can take a look at Egypt.
What happens when a majority of the population opposes the ideologically driven unified faction?
It comes to violence.
That's a scary reality when we're watching this degree and what you're describing in the UK.
tommy robinson
My warning is that they'll use democracy to end democracy, which is what we're witnessing.
We're witnessing it.
phil labonte
Charlie Kirk said that Islam is the sword that the left left used to slice through.
tommy robinson
Wow, that was his words.
And that was pretty much just before he was murdered.
But they, I just don't know if Americans understand the power of that small community when they get organized.
And when I say the power, Republicans will bow to them, Democrats will bow to them.
unidentified
Indeed.
tommy robinson
If they're in the swing states, they're all going to bow to them.
If they can guarantee the vote, if they can give them the guaranteed vote in that town and that town, and that's what we've seen.
And there's an extremist organization in the UK, an Islamist extremist organization in the UK.
And one of their speeches from a mosque, I went through the transcripts of what he was saying.
And he said that it doesn't matter if they call us jihadists or extremists, right?
Liberals, Labour, and Conservatives will work with us.
We now swing the seat in 15 seats.
They need us.
Now, that was five, 10 years ago.
If you look at what's happened now with the division in British politics, it's come down to we've just had five jihadists, independents.
Labor have lost the Muslim vote, it looks like.
And it's fragmenting because Labor didn't hate the Jews enough.
Labor didn't hate the Jews enough.
So the Muslims now they're all calling themselves Greens and screaming our Aqba when they're in winning elections.
But my warning to America is simply they will organize themselves in a military fashion if they concentrate.
And that's what Joe Biden has done.
And what they've done is they replaced the working class.
So the Labour Party replaced the working class with the loyal, happy to be dependent on the state, Islamic community.
They're happy.
My local Imam's got 14 kids and three wives and he doesn't work a day.
And we pay for every penny of it.
And they're happy.
It's a halal life.
It's a halal life.
They go to the mosque five times a day.
They live their life.
We're paying for all of it.
And the rates, if you look at the rates of what works and what doesn't work, I can give you the stats for every country in Europe.
This does not work.
They are important people who do not work.
They're not here to work.
They're on benefits.
You've seen, and I think you've just had an amazing wake-up.
Nick Shirley, well done, son.
You have had the wake-up very quickly.
And when you look at the numbers of how many Somalis come into the country and 10 years later, can't speak English.
You look at the numbers of how many of them are reliant on the state, they're killed.
Kids will be relying on the state.
Studies have now been done in Holland that show not just is the first migration reliant on the state, the second, third migration are reliant on the state.
libby emmons
Really?
tommy robinson
So it's endemic.
It's endemic.
They're not going to work.
They're not here to work.
They're not here to assimilate or integrate.
They're here to dominate.
And that's not every Muslim.
But per se, you have to look at the broad numbers.
And I'll give you some numbers.
In the UK, Muslim men make up 3% of the population.
They're responsible for 90% of the convictions for rape gangs.
90% from a 3% population.
Now, 30% of the men convicted are called Muhammad.
If you go to Sweden, 63% of the rapes, Muslim migrants.
There's about 15% Muslim population, but 63% of the rapes.
Paris, 77% of the rapes are Muslim migrants.
Austria, 48% of the rapes are Muslim migrants.
Germany, 58% of the rapes are Muslim migrants.
Now, all these things are migration and immigration is meant to benefit the nation.
So if we look in Germany, since Angela Merkel, I just said 58% of the rapes are German are foreign national Muslim migrants.
11% of the rapes in that country last year were by Syrian nationals.
They're from Syria.
They're passports from Syria.
They're born in Syria.
They've been brought into the country.
We're told, Germans are told, for diversity.
It's not for diversity.
You opened your borders, you let a million men in, you didn't know who they were.
Just look at the rape statistics that have gone up from 2017 to 2022.
The rapes have gone up 45% in Germany.
In the UK, 2023 to 2023, our rapes went from 8,800 to 88,000.
In a 2020.
88,000 rapes.
And that's going to be 100%.
From 8,000 to 88,000.
88,000.
Now, you take that same statistic and go another 20 years, you're talking a million rapes, 880,000 rapes.
And nothing's going to stop it.
Nothing's stopping it.
They're not stopping it.
The men that are coming in are hostile.
An Afghani is 22 times more likely to commit a sexual assault and rape in Britain than any other nationality than British nationality.
Why are they coming in?
If migration is meant to benefit, how have the Somali community benefited?
How have they benefited coming into America?
It's meant to benefit the nation.
They benefit the Democrats.
tim pool
The Somalis have benefited tremendously.
tommy robinson
They have.
And the money goes to Somalia and probably goes back to the Democrat Party.
tim pool
My question was: are these rapes resulting in pregnancies?
tommy robinson
Are they resulting in pregnancies?
tim pool
They're resulting in abortions.
tommy robinson
So I've got three best friends I grew up with who are all their mums are the white girls who were the sexual slave of the Pakistani.
That's free of my mates.
So they're half Pakistani, don't see their dads.
They were babies from rape.
That's free mates, free of my mates growing up.
tim pool
This is an extremely, extremely well-known and common warfare tactic is rape.
Literally, rape, the origin of the word rape and pillage was, I believe it was the Vikings would come, destroy the village, and then take the women.
And the word rape comes originally meant to steal, but now it means to force yourself on a woman because that's what was happening in conquest.
libby emmons
Well, the thing is, though, in Islam, rape of, in Islam, if you're a Muslim man and you rape a woman who is not Muslim, that's not considered a crime.
That's not considered rape.
Those girls are just looked down upon.
So they don't care about those girls at all.
phil labonte
To this point, the Independent was just put out an article that said the Taliban has a new penal code that puts husbands on par with slave masters and legalizes domestic violence.
libby emmons
Right, yeah, I was looking at that this morning.
tim pool
It was a crazy thing.
Let me get this article for you guys.
From the Independent.
New Taliban penal code puts husbands on par with slave masters and legalizes domestic violence.
A Kabul-based legal advisor says it's now impossible for women to get any justice in the Taliban-run courts.
tommy robinson
That's because the Taliban-run courts are based on the Quran and the Islamic teachings.
And the Quran says quite clearly: if your wife disobeys you, sit down and talk to her.
If that doesn't work, you give her no sex in the bedroom.
If that doesn't work, you beat her.
tim pool
So real quick, what you're saying is we have a choice between feminism and Islam.
tommy robinson
But the feminists are on the Islam side.
unidentified
What's going on?
What's going on?
phil labonte
It's worth noting that the left will lose to the Muslims, you know.
tommy robinson
They did in Iran, but they want to bring down the system.
tim pool
Maybe the offensive thought is women are tired of these, and I mean this in the political sense, not tribal, women are tired of these weak, effeminate liberal guys.
And so a Muslim guy comes in and he's like Myron Gaines, and he's like, shut up, I don't care.
Do what you're told.
And the women are just like, okay.
libby emmons
I think there's something a little different to it than that.
I think that the feminist left in the West never believes that they're going to be impacted by anything negative that's going to happen.
Look at Renee Good.
She thought she was protected from police violence by her whiteness.
She didn't think that anything bad could happen to her.
And so I think when you think about leftist Western feminists, they think, okay, we're going to open up everything to all of these Muslims because we're compassionate.
And it doesn't occur to them that anything bad is going to happen to them because of it.
And they also like to say, you know, that having a woman in burqas and hijabs and niqabs and the rest of it, they say that's their cultural thing.
Let them be part of their cultural thing.
But they don't actually think that anything is going to happen to them.
tommy robinson
The only real feminists, the only real feminists in our generation are the Persian women in Iran.
They're the only real women.
They're like Kelly J. Keene.
But what I mean is the only people in our generation who have stood up for women's rights are the ones taking off their hijab and getting killed.
libby emmons
Well, and they're the ones who are saying, hey, Western women, where are you?
Why aren't you helping us?
tim pool
The funny thing is, if we want to be true to the sense of feminism in that protecting women's rights, it's conservative women in the United States.
It's these Iranian women protesting.
And the quote-unquote feminists, as we describe them, hate women.
tommy robinson
Hate women.
libby emmons
That's correct.
unidentified
They hate women.
libby emmons
They hate women.
tim pool
And you see the new, they're wearing feminism like.
tommy robinson
Have you seen these?
What do they call them?
Islam?
What do they call them?
Nemesis.
Have you seen the group in?
You know this lad who just got murdered in France?
libby emmons
Quentin.
tommy robinson
Yeah, Quentin New just got murdered in France.
So he was protecting a women's group in France.
There's a new women's group.
It's an amazing group.
Look them up.
tim pool
It's called Nemesis.
tommy robinson
Nemesis Collective.
Look them up.
They're on X. There's now 600 of them.
So they're women.
There they are.
They are amazing.
unidentified
Yeah.
tommy robinson
Wow.
They're on the street.
tim pool
Oh, wait, wait.
I'm sorry, real quick.
Wikipedia says their ideology is anti-immigration, anti-Islam, xenophobia.
phil labonte
Yep.
tim pool
So the funny thing is...
tommy robinson
He's a real feminist.
Xenophonism.
tim pool
I know.
But xenophobia isn't a political ideology.
They put that in there just to insult them because that's what Wikipedia is.
ian crossland
And being concerned with mass immigration or theocratic regimes or extremism religions is not xenophobia.
Xenophobia is a blanket fear of external unknown people.
It's very different.
unidentified
Wait, wait.
ian crossland
Because you oppose mass, say, for example, these female nationalism.
tommy robinson
That's what they call them, feminationalists.
tim pool
Feminationalists.
tommy robinson
They call them feminationalists.
tim pool
All right, let's go.
tommy robinson
I just walked through Paris.
Did you see?
I had a video last week where I walked through Paris with these girls, yeah?
unidentified
Oh, wow.
tommy robinson
With Alice.
And as I walked through Paris, Muslim migrants were following us, saying they're going to fuck her.
unidentified
Wow.
tommy robinson
Threatening her.
And this video has probably got 800,000 views last week.
And as we're walking through, I'm arguing with these migrant men.
And then the leader in charge of the government for Paris mocked us in a quote.
There was a big backlash against them, but absolutely mocked us.
Now, 77% of the rapes in Paris, in that city where those women are, the Eiffel Tower now is a rape spot.
It's not...
America, if you're listening and you think of Paris and you think of the City of Love, it's not there.
There is no city of love anymore.
There's a hellhole governed and controlled by migrants of violence.
It's the same with Berlin.
You can fly into Berlin, you won't know where you are.
You fly into Paris, you won't know where you are.
You fly into London, 33% English, you probably won't meet an English person unless you get in a black cab and they're trying to get rid of them as well.
All of these cities are falling.
Rapes In Paris: A Hellhole 00:07:24
tim pool
Tell me, I remember that viral video of the young girl, I think in Britain, and she pulled out the knives or whatever.
libby emmons
That was Scotland, yeah.
ian crossland
Scotland.
tim pool
And this, explain the story and what happened.
It was massive.
tommy robinson
Yeah, she was being threatened by migrants.
But this is nothing new.
The victim is the victim again by the authorities and the system.
Because they're too scared.
So you know, you spoke earlier.
I think just so people can really get the scale of what's been happening in Britain.
We had a rape scandal, which was what we started talking about in 2009.
It's why they shut us down.
And to understand why they wanted to shut us down so bad, if you Google my name, you'll read so many articles, smears, slandering comments by politicians, by media.
They despise me.
The reason why is because they've all got dirty hands.
They allowed the rape and prostitution.
I've done a five-part series called The Rape of Britain.
They're all documentaries where I went to one city and I went to Telford and I spent 18 months there and I got to speak to the survivors, the victims and the survivors who were raped by these gangs.
Now we got say 18 girls.
I'd interview them for three hours, four hours, three or four times.
And I built a database of the rapists.
Now, the reason why I chose Telford is because Telford only has a 1.7% Muslim population.
Now, the police investigation in Telford found 1,000 victims.
Five are dead.
Five are dead in this little town.
unidentified
Yeah?
tommy robinson
1,000 victims.
So when you take the Muslim population, the police identified 200 rapists in this town.
They've only prosecuted 11.
So when you see the rape gangs getting prosecuted, they're prosecuting them.
It's like a little gesture.
Out of the 200, they prosecuted 11.
So the police investigation finds 200.
Our investigation found 264.
An inquiry, an independent inquiry, found over 300.
There's only a thousand Muslim men.
20% of them by the police's numbers have been raping the kids.
20% of them.
In this small town of Telford, you've probably heard of Rotherham.
Rothram has 3.7% Muslim population.
Yeah, there's none there.
1,400 children raped.
Now, what I did is look through all these cities, and that's when we went through the numbers, which is you take the convictions, you take the men convicted, because they make it very hard, and we found out how many names are from an Islamic background.
You're upwards of 84% of the convictions, up to 90% are Muslim men from such a small community.
And the question we need to ask, because if we care about anything, it should be our daughters.
You talk about rape being a weapon of war.
It's always been a weapon of war.
When Boko Haram took 200 Nigerian girls, they told us quite clearly why they'd done it because Muhammad has commanded us to do it.
They're telling you why they've done it.
Look what they've done to the Yazidis.
Look what ISIS done.
What are all these terrorists?
Look what the Taliban are doing.
phil labonte
And Tommy, this goes back to, this literally goes back to the founding, like right after the United States got founded, the Barbary Pirates.
Their emissary told Thomas Jefferson that the reason they were taking our ships and putting our men into slavery was because the Quran told them that they could.
tommy robinson
There's four verses in the Quran.
One of the verses actually says you're blameless.
You can take whatever your right arm possesses, the arm of the sword, outside of your four wives, and you can take them as war booty.
tim pool
That's the same thing.
And what did Thomas Jefferson respond with?
phil labonte
Created the United States Marine slaughter.
tim pool
He said, if you do this, I will raise an army and I will destroy you.
And then he did.
unidentified
He did.
tommy robinson
Well, our leaders now are not raising an army to destroy you.
They're raising an army to destroy the people who talk about it.
libby emmons
Well, and that's sort of what's going on.
And if you look into Islam, I remember I had a writer a few years ago, Maddie Martin, and she wrote about this.
And she told me something that I found really surprising, which is that there are several stages of jihad.
And one of the first stages of jihad is that you go into a place where you are a minority.
And when you're a minority, a Muslim population, you behave in a certain way.
become you take on a victimhood presentation so that people feel sorry for you and you work with the people around you who are non-Muslim as a way to gain their trust and then slowly slowly you take over until you're in charge of the entire society and then you're able to eradicate the people who you claimed to be friends with you're allowed to pretend to be friends for example with Christians but you're never allowed to actually be friends with Christians why they do that Because that's exactly what Muhammad did.
tommy robinson
In Muhammad's first 10 years of teaching, which is why if we get onto the scripture of Islam, in Muhammad's first 10 years of teaching, he had 300 followers.
He was a peaceful man.
So all the peaceful verses in the Quran come from the first 10 years.
Then he found a winning formula.
His winning formula was jihad, war, rape, slavery, piracy.
And this is their scripture, not me saying it.
And this is where so many Americans will just think, well, Islam's like Christianity.
Muhammad's like Jesus.
No, Muhammad said, Jesus said, turn the other cheek.
Muhammad said, cut their heads off.
Mohammed beheaded 600 people in one day.
That's what he did.
That's their scripture.
He stopped Kinana.
He tortured a man called Kulnak Kanana, burnt his chest, took his gold.
The evening he beheaded all the men in the tribe, evening he beheaded them, he took his wife, Sophia, as his wife that night.
He raped her that night.
This is the man that they believe is the moral compass for the world.
This is why we have so much war, so much jihad.
And the problem with them, which people need to realize, is when your borders are open, say, for example, a Pew research shows 99% of Afghanis want Sharia law.
When they get to the American border and they cross in, or when Joe Biden flies them in, when they come in, they don't leave that policy at the border.
They bring it with them.
So it's like if you think of communism, say Sweden was an entirely communist nation, and everyone in Sweden supported communism.
Well, if you bring 4 million Swedes into the United States of America, there's going to be a drive for communism.
This is why you have a drive for Sharia.
It's why now you've got so many calls for Sharia.
We have 23% of British Muslims, which is a low number considering how they think in the Middle East.
But 23% of British Muslims want Sharia law.
23%.
Now, 23% of British Muslims is a million Muslims.
That's a million Muslims in our country.
We should overthrow democracy and replace it with an authoritarian supremacist ideology which subjugates non-Muslims, keeps us as slaves.
We become dhimmis in our own nation.
Now, all these numbers need to be looked at.
I looked at the United States.
You've got 26% of Muslims in the United States, 18 from 18 to the age of 29.
45% of French Muslims believe suicide bombing is justified.
35% of British Muslims believe suicide bombings is justified.
These numbers are insane.
You're talking one and a half million British Muslims in our country believe suicide bombing.
It's 26% of them Muslims in America.
Wake up.
Now, those numbers, when you think of 26% of Muslims, it's all right when the numbers are small.
Well, I say it's all right.
We've got 40,000 Muslims on a terror watch list.
40,000 British Muslims on a terror watch list.
3,000 of them are monitored 24 hours a day, seven days a week at a cost of £9 billion.
The last five terrorist attacks in the UK weren't from those in the top 3,000.
So when this becomes such a problem, because Manchester, for example, after the Ariana Grande concert attacks where 26 children were blown up by Salman Abadi, you know, if we had a Trump-style ban, you know, he banned certain countries, red flag countries, if we had that, then those children would still be alive.
220 who were murdered in France and Germany would still be alive for that simple ban.
No matter how much opposition or names Donald Trump gets called, that ban keeps you safe from bringing terrorists into your nation.
It's not a game of, if you had a pack of Skittles there or a pack of sweets and you said, pick those sweets, one of them's going to kill you.
You wouldn't pick a sweet.
Now with mass immigration from these Islamic nations, literally, some of them are going to kill you.
They're going to rape your women in mass numbers.
We're literally being raped and pillaged across the whole of Europe.
phil labonte
I mean, it's not a stretch to think that out of the 20 million illegal immigrants that were led in during the Biden administration, there was 100,000 people brought in that hate America and want to do bad things.
tommy robinson
More, more.
Jefferson's Stand Against Tribute 00:02:16
tim pool
Let me read this while you guys are talking.
I pulled up a quick little blurb on what happened with Jefferson and the Barbary States, and this is very interesting.
Thomas Jefferson didn't make a single famous direct quote to the Barbary pirates.
However, he was deeply involved in the U.S. dealings.
The most notable came in March of 1786 when Jefferson, he was the current minister to France and John Adams to Britain, met in London with the Tripoli ambassador, envoy Sidi Haji Abu Drahmahan.
They inquired why Tripoli claimed the right to attack American ships despite no provocation or injury from the U.S.
The ambassador explained that it was founded on Islamic law as written in their Quran.
All nations that had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, and it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave them.
He added that any Muslim slain in such warfare was assured paradise and described boarding tactics that terrified enemies into surrender.
Jefferson and Adams reported this in March 28th, 1786 letter to Secretary of Foreign Affairs John Jay, noting the ambassador's demands for tribute around 30,000 guineas for a perpetual peace with Tripoli, plus his personal cut paid in cash, no goods accepted.
Jefferson was skeptical of paying tribute from the start, viewing it as an ineffective and likely to encourage more demands.
In private correspondence and proposals, he advocated force over tribute, arguing war would be cheaper and more honorable long term than endless payments.
He wrote things like preferring to, quote, affect a peace through the medium of war and calculated that building a navy to fight would cost less than ongoing tribute.
As president in 1801, when Tripoli's Pasha demanded higher tribute and then declared war by chopping down the U.S. flagpole in Tripoli, Jefferson refused payment and sent U.S. Navy warships to the Mediterranean.
He authorized aggressive action to chastise their insolence by sinking, burning, or destroying pirate vessels.
This led to the First Barbary War, the U.S.'s first oversea conflict ending with a treaty where tribute was minimized or phased out for Tripoli.
A slogan often linked to this era, millions for defense, but not one cent for tribute, is frequently misattributed to Jefferson.
It actually originated from Congressman Robert Goodlow Harper in 1798 during the XYZ affair, a separate dispute with France, though it captured the anti-tribute sentiment Jefferson embodied in his Barbary policy.
American Policy on Kidnapping 00:02:08
tim pool
I absolutely love this because I will stress today, the American policy for kidnapping in the Middle East is you will get not a single penny from us.
We will show up with special forces at three in the morning in night vision goggles and we will kill everyone you know.
And so what happens is when if you are European and you are in North Africa or the Middle East and you're kidnapped, they smile.
These people will take you.
They find you.
They smile and say, we're about to get paid millions of dollars.
When they find an American, they say, we don't touch the Americans because we like being alive.
Now, the ISIS did change this when ISIS started to rise up.
They said, try us, we don't care.
And no longer were Americans basically receiving the benefit of these not a penny for tribute tactics.
tommy robinson
No, the tribute tactics, that's them asking for money, which again is in Islamic scripture.
You convert, you convert, you leave, or you give us money.
unidentified
That's right.
tommy robinson
You become a Dimitri, you become under us, and you give us money to live.
libby emmons
Well, and they also say also part of it is if you convert, then you can be part of our raiding squads and you can get some of this plunder as well.
You know, and that's part of it.
What I find is sort of amazing about the European situation that has opened borders to Islamic extremists all over the Middle East and the rest of the world.
What's crazy about that is Europe literally fought like hundreds of years of war to keep Islamic people out of Europe.
tommy robinson
I went through one.
libby emmons
And now it's just like, okay, well, instead of fighting you guys, we're just going to open the door and let all the hordes in.
But I mean, there was the Crusades were hundreds of years of the same thing.
tim pool
Is this not just very similar to the fall of Rome?
tommy robinson
The difference here is he's not talking about Islamic interpretation.
He's just talking about Islam.
He's not talking about interpretation.
Now, I went through, you know, Islam is a religion of peace, the phrase.
Do you know that was never said in history?
libby emmons
Well, it's not real.
tommy robinson
Until George W. Until George W. Bush, until George W. Bush, try and find that by anyone, by a historian, by an academic, by an Islamic scholar.
Try and find the phrase, Islam is a religion of peace by anybody in the world before George W. Bush.
George W. Bush said it, and then it was said a thousand times and a million times, and now it's repeated as a matter of fact.
Pubs and Political Elections 00:05:28
tommy robinson
Now, William Gladstone, I went through trying to find, do you know, the leaders of a country, it's their job, like Thomas Jefferson, to warn the public of danger.
Now, all leaders, military leaders, political leaders throughout America and Britain's history have warned about Islam, not warned about an interpretation of Islam.
Sir William Gladstone held the Quran above his head in British Parliament and said, There will never be peace on the surface so long as we have this book.
It's a violent and cursed book.
He didn't talk about an interpretation of the book.
He talked about the book.
Yeah, the Quran.
That's what he spoke about.
Winston Churchill said, Islam and a man is like rabies and a dog.
He explained that individual Muslims, so amazing traits.
This is his words.
Individual Muslims show amazing traits, but Islam will bring Europe back to the dark ages.
So all of our leaders understood Islam and they spoke openly about Islam.
Now, if we had no Muslims in Britain, I'm sure our leaders would still talk openly about it.
But what we have now is 5,000 Muslims who are hostile and ready to go to violence at the click of a finger.
Since they rioted in 2002 in the UK and they burned cities, it went from Bradford, it went to Oldham, it went to multiple cities.
Since then, our government have got on their knees and gave them concession after concession after concession.
They have pandered to mob rule of violence and threats of violence.
And they're weak.
It's happening in Sweden.
It's happening in France.
We now have a Europe that doesn't know how to deal with this problem.
And rather than deal with it like American leaders would have done, they just surrender to it.
And they try to appease and they try to appease.
And they continue doing that.
libby emmons
How much of this has to do with the West, Europe, and America just having no value for their own culture or religion?
tommy robinson
It's filled a vacuum.
So, but I believe all of this.
I believe the attack on the family, the feminization of men, the weakness, the breakdown of community, even the British pub.
Look at the British pub.
The British pub is the heartbeat of British culture.
Now, when we formed the English Defence League in 2009, we formed from the pubs.
We built a movement of men from the pubs.
We got men together and men sit in pubs and they discuss the problems.
How are we going to deal with these problems?
It's somewhere where you can come together and you can build that community.
The pubs are gone.
libby emmons
That was like pre-revolutionary war in New England.
tim pool
The pubs are gone.
tommy robinson
The pubs are gone.
I think the pubs, the pubs are gone.
Even the Labour government, I've done a piece on it recently where I went into a local pub in a town where all the other pubs are closed.
And I asked the people in there, when this closes, what's it mean for you?
They said it means everything.
This is where we meet.
unidentified
Why are they closing?
tommy robinson
Well, they're closing because I'd say it's an effort by the government to make sure that we do not have centres.
They don't want you community-based.
They don't want you together.
They want you broken, isolated, fragmented, and on your own.
They want you isolated.
That's how they want you.
Now, if you can have community, every pub that we use through the English Defence League, they're gone.
They've closed them all down.
Now, this is happening.
If you look, there's another 2,000 pubs going to close this year in Britain.
unidentified
Wow.
tommy robinson
They're closing.
They're disappearing.
libby emmons
Can you open more or do they not give you permits?
tommy robinson
They're making it impossible to finance them.
The taxes, the Labour government have just made more policies now.
They come in in April where many more of them are going to have to close.
Now, this is purposely done.
They are breaking the community as they bring in mass immigration.
I can tell you, I've seen it in my own town.
As they bring in mass immigration, we flee, we leave.
The community is broken.
I used to walk down the street.
I'd hug everyone.
I'd know everyone.
We'd all know the families.
We'd know everyone.
So when you have a strong community like that, you can build and you can get together.
And if you want to resist something, you can resist it.
And when you bring strong men together, men who know who they are, they know their identity and they know where they've come from, they know their history, they'll fight for it.
You break all those things.
You've got a country full of people who don't know who they are.
They're walking around with blue hair.
They don't know if they're a man or a woman.
It's all an attack.
tim pool
I have a question about all this because I pulled up, you know, we were talking about the hadith.
Ian, would you like to read that quoted portion?
ian crossland
Yeah, but it's too blurry for me from here.
tim pool
You can't see it.
Phil, would you like to read the quote?
phil labonte
The power will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say, oh Muslim, there is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him.
tommy robinson
You know, that's in Hamas's charter, yeah?
tim pool
Is it what?
tommy robinson
That's in Hamas's charter.
phil labonte
Yeah.
libby emmons
It's in Hamas's charter.
tommy robinson
That's in Hamas's charter.
So they removed it recently, saying like, oh, you know, a few years ago after the hoo-ha come out, and everyone knew that this is what Hamas is about.
Hamas don't talk about Zionists, they talk about Jews.
The final day of judgment will not come till every Jew is dead.
Yeah, and Hamas were elected by the people of Palestine.
They were politically elected, whether you trust it or not.
There's never been an election again from it, but they were voted in by a majority.
There was two groups.
There was Hamas, there was Fatar, both terrorist organizations.
Both want the destruction of the Jews.
Both want the killing of the Jews.
And they are the party that many in the Western countries' politicians now are supporting.
And they're supporting them to appease the block Muslim vote.
tim pool
I, the community.
I have no problem with people criticizing the government of Israel and even their military.
By all means, even the culture, whatever you want, you are to criticize.
But what's fascinating to me is we have feminism, hates Israel.
Like the left hates Israel, hates the Jews.
Israel is often used as an excuse where they, we have seen this massive explosion of Jew hatred across social media.
And I'm sorry, I look at what's going on with this mass migration with Islam, which is a religion explicitly telling their people to go and kill all of the Jews.
And I'm curious why the Jews who are in control of everything haven't just stopped this.
tommy robinson
Well, even the LGBTQ groups.
libby emmons
You mean like the international?
tim pool
The point is, if the left...
No, no, no, no, no, no.
I'm saying that somewhat ironically.
libby emmons
Yeah, that's what I'm asking.
tim pool
The left makes the argument the Jews run and control everything.
Meanwhile, they're not doing a very good job at all.
tommy robinson
If they control the media, they're not doing a very good job.
Fighting for Asylum in Europe 00:15:43
tim pool
Why is it that you, Tommy, were put in solitary confinement on multiple occasions?
You've been falsely accused of crimes.
They've lied about you incessantly in all these different media organizations.
And then I'm told that, oh, it was the Jews who did it, not Islam.
tommy robinson
Within the last 12 months, I've spent seven months of solitary confinement.
I've been found not guilty of a terrorist trial.
They charged me on the terrorism legislation for nothing, for nothing.
My last two cases, the judge's rulings were this was politically targeting.
You're harassing him.
You're persecuting him.
That's the judge's comments in my last two cases.
I wish I had this.
And God bless Elon Musk because Elon Musk funded my lawyers for my last two cases.
Otherwise, I'd be convicted.
I'd be sitting in now as a convicted terrorist.
Well, I wouldn't be here, would I?
tim pool
Because I'm never going to hang out with him.
tommy robinson
I'd love to hang out with him.
I'd love to shake his hand, to thank him for Elon Musk has given.
Have you reached out to him?
I've sent just a message.
I speak to his lawyer, so I've sent a message to his lawyer to thank him.
tim pool
That has to happen.
You'd be an amazing sit-down.
ian crossland
Are you cleared out now in the UK?
Can you just live and work there and do what you do and not be harassed?
tommy robinson
I faced 10 years on the 26th of October.
I'm on trial on the 26th of October and I faced a 10-year prison sentence.
what for so when the riots kicked off in the uk and remember they is this the southport stuff Southport riots, yeah, which I wasn't involved in.
I wasn't in the country.
In fact, all of my videos...
libby emmons
You spoke about it though, didn't you?
tommy robinson
All my videos called for calm.
unidentified
Yeah.
tommy robinson
And peace.
Now, what the media did, from the very first day of the riots, the police officer came out and blamed the English Defence League.
Now, I led the English Defence League.
It ended a decade ago.
There hasn't been an English Defence League.
So as soon as I saw the mention of the English Defence League, I thought, I don't know, it's coming here.
They're sticking this on me.
They're going to put this on me.
And then they started coming out and blaming an organized far-right.
Now, since there's been full investigations that have said there was no link to any far-right, it was local people writing.
But at the time, they done this.
Now, when they've done this, the town's, the country's burning, yeah?
And the country's burning because the people have had enough.
What they don't tell you is in each, say, look, hole, there was trouble in hole on the streets outside the hotel.
They don't tell you that a Muslim migrant who has come into our country as a refugee was put in a hotel, come out and stabbed a pensioner to death while shouting about Palestine.
They don't tell you there was a terrorist attack in the town when there was trouble in Tamworth.
They don't tell you Mohammed left the hotel and raped an English woman.
Each city where there was trouble, people are angry for a reason.
The people who are being housed in our country are in hotels.
There's been 25 children sexually assaulted.
There's been murders.
There's been rapes by the people we're putting in hotels.
So there's a lot of anger in the country.
But what they've done is as the riots kicked off and they celebrate this, they give themselves an award.
They changed the image of the riots from that summer to a picture of me on the sunbed.
So I was away with my family.
I was away with my children.
And I don't get many breaks.
I live since 2011.
I got my first Osmond warning in 2011.
I've got a video of them on my phone where the police knocked on my door and said, Al-Shabaab want to kill you.
It's three o'clock in the morning.
They told me and my wife, she's had ones.
They're going to attack you with acid.
There's plans to hurt you and kill you, kill the kids.
I've had 11 or 12 official government warnings.
The most recent one was last week.
The police come to me last week and said, you've been named in ISIS's magazine this month that they've released to be killed.
We cannot protect you and you cannot take steps to protect yourself.
So to Americans.
libby emmons
Why?
tommy robinson
You're not because I'll get done for carrying a weapon.
We're not allowed weapons.
We're not allowed to carry weapons.
libby emmons
So you're just supposed to let them out.
tim pool
Living screwdrivers, right?
tommy robinson
No, nothing.
Four times as many British Muslims went to fight for ISIS in a three-year period than they've ever joined the British military in 50 years of them being in the country.
libby emmons
And they're taking the ISIS brides back, too.
tommy robinson
No, we've had 2,000 of them come back.
And my hometown in Luton, I know those kids.
So I went to school with them.
So they're walking around my town.
So when people talk about terrorism and jihad, no, I'm standing next to them in the bank.
Well, I'm not in the bank anymore because all the banks close me down.
But that's what's happened.
So ISIS fighters come back, 40,000 terrorists on the watch list, and then we have to leave.
The police told me, leave.
We cannot protect you.
Leave.
ian crossland
Have you considered doing that and becoming an American citizen?
tommy robinson
No.
So people told me to do this and try and claim asylum.
I feel that would be turning my back on my country.
I feel that the fight for me is Britain.
I wish I had safety for my family.
I wish my family were somewhere where they're just safe.
That's what I wish.
libby emmons
But it's your country.
tommy robinson
The last three years I've been hiding in different European countries.
tim pool
I think.
tommy robinson
I don't live in the same place.
For the last seven months, I've lived in hotels.
I go from hotel to Airbnb to hotel to Airbnb.
And I do that because I don't have security.
I have no security.
So I don't have 24-hour day security.
But when the police to Americans, do not give up your guns.
Do not become disarmed like us.
Do not get into a position where your government and police are not there to protect you.
They didn't protect anyone during the riots.
Muslims were coming out during the riots, armed with swords, armed with machetes, attacking people, jumping people.
If it wasn't for Elon Musk by an X, no one in Britain would have even known any of this.
tim pool
I think after we liberate Canada, we will then go.
tommy robinson
Liberate the UK.
tim pool
The UK is next, and we will be greeted as liberators.
ian crossland
Some people will like flee, like Einstein fled Germany to protect Germany from the Reich, from Hitler's Reich, basically.
He didn't, I don't think he turned his back on the Germans.
tim pool
Wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on.
He didn't.
He fled.
ian crossland
Einstein fled Germany when they broke into his apartment.
tim pool
Indeed, and how was that protecting Germany?
ian crossland
Well, he wanted to fix the country, but he couldn't do it from within because they were going to destroy him if he stayed there.
phil labonte
He stayed in the US.
tim pool
He helped make nuclear bombs to end the war.
libby emmons
But I feel you on that, Tommy.
Like, I like, you know, our country has been in a bit of disarray, and I don't feel like I would ever leave this country.
This is my country.
tommy robinson
I felt the calmest.
I've been there 24 hours.
I said, I feel calm.
I don't feel calm when I'm in Europe.
I don't feel calm.
And the media track down where I am and tell people where I am.
So what happened?
My newest court case.
I'm on holiday with my kids in there 24 hours.
Next day, headline in the Daily Mail.
They name the hotel I'm in.
They tell them what hotel I'm in.
They put pictures of my family in the national newspaper.
I'm looking at it.
A Muslim made a video of machine guns saying they're going to kill me.
Another Somali pirate in the UK made a video saying he's going to kill me.
All these death threats are coming in.
Police knock on my mum and dad's door.
So they don't just threaten me.
They knock on my mum and dad's door, give them an official warning.
You need to leave.
We can't keep you safe to my mum and dad.
So I find my mum and dad out of the country.
All of this is going on.
And I look up the journalist names who run this story.
There's no need to picture my family.
There was no need to give the location.
You could have run.
I don't care about them chatting about me and lying about me and bullshitting about me.
The headline was Tommy Robinson stokes riots from his sunbed.
I didn't stoke any riots.
I was calling for calm.
So it's a lie.
I don't care about your lies.
You've done it for over a decade, 15 years.
You've targeted me with your lies.
But I do care when you're jeopardizing the safety of my children.
Yeah, I had to leave so that I had to go into a hotel room.
The next day, six different groups of men turned up at the hotel.
This isn't in Cyprus.
Turned up at the hotel.
The manager said, Please stay out of the way.
We've got men turning up asking where you are.
We've got all this going on.
So I then sent private investigators and I put a message online saying to the journalists who have endangered my family, I'm a journalist.
You're in my story now, and I'm coming to find you.
Yeah, and the camera's going.
I made it very clear, not violence.
A camera's going in your face.
You're going to answer questions on camera how you think this is legitimate journalism.
And I made a point.
So I sent cameras to find them and I got pictures of them coming out of their houses.
unidentified
Yeah.
tommy robinson
And I published a picture of them.
I cut out, I blurred the images of their family.
I didn't show them.
Yeah, I blurred the images of their houses and I put a picture of them.
I said, you know what?
I'm a journalist with morals.
I will never, you know, I've got pictures of your family.
Yeah, I will never show an image of your family.
I'm never going to the family reading this.
I'm never going to let anyone know where you live.
But you know, I found you.
You know, I'm coming to find you.
So what you need to do is you need to contact me for my story and answer some questions.
The plea, I faced 10 years for this.
libby emmons
So they were allowed to do that, but you faced 10 years for that.
tommy robinson
The media are a weapon of a totalitarian state.
The judiciary is a weapon.
They're all tentacles of a totalitarian state that is right now crumbling.
So I will, this may sound bad.
All the stuff I sound is depressing.
Don't be too depressed because Britain is on a rise.
There is a cultural revolution brewing in Great Britain right now.
We had an event on September 13th.
It was the biggest event in British history.
Millions descended on our capital city.
I felt for a decade like I'm banging my head against a wall in Britain.
Right now, I don't.
Every wall, every street I walk down, everywhere I go, I get a hero's reception.
I get a reception, but I get to see the passion in the British public to how they now see it.
They see it.
libby emmons
And I get their country back.
tommy robinson
It's happening.
phil labonte
What do you think about Rupert Lowe?
tommy robinson
Rupert Lowe is our Trump.
Rupert Lowe is the only political figure that will say Britain.
Do not believe any bullshit about Nigel Farage.
He's weak.
Nigel, these are Nigel Farage's comments.
Yeah, so don't believe Nigel Farage's comments are by 2050, the Muslim population is that dominant in the UK that we cannot alienate them or we will never win an election.
That's his comments.
Now, we know that to come in.
So that's why we need to stop that.
Yeah, we can't get into a position where we have to bend and cower to an Islamic supremacist group because we're worried about offending them because we won't win an election.
So Nigel is already putting up the white flag.
Rupert Lowe won't put up the white flag.
Rupert Lowe is the solution to our problems.
Restore Britain is a new political party, 80,000 members this week.
And Nigel has sold us out.
He's betrayed us.
Our next home secretary, if Nigel wins, is Zia Youssef, a Muslim.
Our next mayor of London under Nigel's party of reform is Layla Khan, a Muslim.
Yeah, so and why is that a problem?
People say, why is that a problem?
If it was a Sikh, would it be a problem?
Because Muslims will tell you, Islam comes first, second, and third, right?
Not democracy, not rule of law, not the non-Muslim community, not any of it.
It all that matters is Islam.
Now, when you understand the teachings of Islam, well, non-Muslims are treated as second citizens.
They're subjugated.
The teachings are a supremacist mindset.
That's not, doesn't mean every Muslim follows that, but if they believe in the teachings of Islam and follow the teachings of Islam and the word of Islam, we have the problem.
But I do say it in optimism: something huge is happening in Britain.
tim pool
I want to explain why I think it's so important for Britain to survive.
And it's because I'm a big fan of baked beans, mushrooms, tomato, blood pudding.
tommy robinson
No baked beans.
I went for my breakfast in the hotel.
I put it from America, right?
I tweeted, where's my baked beans?
tim pool
But here's my point.
That I actually am a huge fan of the British breakfast.
I love it way more than the continental English.
The full English.
Incredible.
Hello, what?
tommy robinson
Have you had white pudding?
tim pool
Probably.
tommy robinson
It's Irish.
My mum's Irish.
But in Ireland, it's white pudding and black pudding.
Oh, go to an Irish.
tim pool
See, a lot of people don't like the blood pudding.
I love it.
And the point is this.
I want to be able to visit London and see what Britain has always been, to learn of the history.
We share a history here in the United States.
And I feel the same way for Somalia.
I would like Somalia to be a stable, beautiful country where you can see the ocean without fear of piracy and a stable government.
I want that for all people's self-determination for their country.
I agree with the left when they complain about colonization.
Right, right, right.
The only problem is they're not actually advocating against the crushing of culture and decolonization.
They're saying, I hate white people.
libby emmons
Well, and that's what they're doing.
We saw AOC in Munich last week, and she was over the weekend, and she was talking about how whiteness doesn't exist and white culture is the problem and all of this stuff.
And it's like, well, everything that she's railing against is what has allowed her to be a congresswoman representing New York.
And she doesn't care about that at all.
And she was saying how there's no such thing as whiteness after decades of complaining about whiteness.
And now she says, you know, go back to your original heritages.
And she doesn't believe in that either.
tommy robinson
Most of this has happened.
It's our own fault as well at the same time because we've lost our culture.
We've lost our identity.
Again, you don't have to be a Christian or believe in Jesus Christ to understand that the foundations of built our country is Christian principle foundations.
libby emmons
JD Vance spoke about that.
tommy robinson
This is what's built Britain.
And there is, do you know I stood in on the 27th of July?
We met two years ago.
We bought 10, 15 influencers, if you want to call them.
You know, Katie Hopkins, Lawrence Fox, Cole Benjamin.
We brought all the people who have been attacked together and we sat around a table for two days and we said, right, lads, lads and lasses, Jordan Peterson flew in.
We spoke about that.
If you change the culture, you change the politics anyway.
That's right.
So our goal was we can try and start a political party.
You need hundreds of millions of pounds or we can change the culture on the streets of the UK.
So we got 15 people together.
You've got a million followers.
You've got 500,000 on TikTok.
You're big on YouTube.
We can reach.
If we all come together, at the click of a button, we're going to reach bigger than any media outlet in this world.
Just overnight.
If we agree on five principles, we don't have to agree on everything because when you bring people together, we all know it's difficult to get all these egos in one room.
Everyone's got an ego, whether they say they have or not.
Everyone wants it about themselves at some point.
So when we brought them together, so let's agree on five things.
Free speech, against mass immigration, against sexual exploitation of children, just these little principles.
Can we all agree?
And what's important to us?
Judeo-Christian culture is important to us as a country.
So we agreed on these five points and said, right, now we're going to go out and we're going to hold the first celebration of identity.
And let's not make it against something.
Let's make it for something.
We have not been able to be pro-British.
It has become cool to convert to Islam.
All the boxers are converting.
All the youth are converting.
And that's happened because a void is there.
A void where we've lost our Christian identity and Christian culture.
Right now, there is a revival happening for Christianity.
And I'm standing watching in Trafalgar Square.
We held our first event, which was on the 30th of June, which was in London.
And 30,000 people turned up.
And we had a gospel band and we had a celebration of identity.
It was beautiful.
It was beautiful.
But what we did at that first event is we gave tickets to YouTubers and TikTokers and podcasters.
So not the mainstream media.
We bought them in and we celebrated them.
And as we had 800,000 people watching live online, thanks to Elon Musk again on X, we got them up and said, introduce yourself.
So these TikTokers got up and they were like, what?
I said, get up on the crowd and give us your channel.
How do people follow you?
How do they support you?
How do we get away from these traitors, the mainstream media?
We need to become the media.
This is the biggest battle: media.
We need to become the media.
Citizen journalism, I say mainstream media is the cancer, citizen journalism is the cure.
We need to beat them.
At that first event, we had 30 that we gave invites to.
At the next event, which was six weeks later, 100,000 people turned up, which at the time was the biggest, the biggest patriotic gathering London's ever seen.
Yeah, and then 100,000 people are there, and the whole crowd is chanting Christ is King.
And I'm standing watching, thinking, I don't even think most of you believe Christ is king.
So something's happening here.
And as I'm watching it, I'm feeling it.
And I felt it in, I went to Poland in 2015.
When I went to Poland in 2015, I went for their Independence Day when a quarter of a million Polish march.
And I remember standing at the front of the march.
And my hair's on the back of my neck standing up now, thinking about it.
And I felt energy as they were all together for a common cause, for their country, for their identity.
And they didn't care.
They were unashamed.
They were unapologetic.
They were celebrating history of Poland.
And when I looked at Poland's history and understood why they feel this way, they've always been outnumbered every battle, 40 to 1.
They've been off the map.
They've fought communism.
It's in their last generation to understand what it's like not to have freedom.
And I stood there and felt jealous.
I left and thought, we don't have this in Britain.
We've lost this.
I wish for this.
And on the 27th of July, I stood in Trafalgar Square and I remember and I felt it.
I thought, oh my God, this is what happens when people come together.
This is people power.
So we went from the 27th of July and then at our next event on the 13th of September, which is now, if you look at the aerial shots of it, the biggest, the biggest event Britain's ever seen, we had 185 citizen journalists.
I'm going to invite you now, Tim.
Please come 16th of May.
I'm going to ask everyone.
We want the worst 66 million people watch that demonstration.
The most watched demonstration.
66 million eyes on that demonstration.
People Power Unleashed 00:02:43
tommy robinson
The media now are irrelevant.
So the Guardian come out and run pieces and they all run these pieces.
That was the biggest celebration, but it was a celebration of British identity, culture, celebration.
And our organization is called Unite the Kingdom.
I didn't do this.
Those coming together are 15 people who have been silenced, betrayed, slandered, demonized.
Cole Benjamin, all these influencers who come together and said, Lads, we need to change culture.
tim pool
I feel like they wouldn't let me in.
tommy robinson
No, they'll let you in.
tim pool
You think so?
tommy robinson
Well, if they don't, like, do you see, they banned Eva Vlanderbrook.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yep.
tommy robinson
They banned Eva Vanderbrook.
But when they do this.
tim pool
She said a lot less than I did.
tommy robinson
But when they do this, when they do do this, it's great.
I say it's great.
tim pool
Show the world.
tommy robinson
Show the world.
Like I went to jail last year for playing my film.
I intentionally played my film.
I knew, I went to court.
I made a documentary.
The documentary was far bigger than my story.
It was about the weaponization of the judiciary.
It totally proved the corruption of the judiciary.
Why is that important?
Because it's been used against Donald Trump.
He'd be spending the rest of his life in jail if he didn't win the election.
It was used against Alex Jones.
It's used against Katie Hopkins.
In fact, Google any politician in Europe who stood against the European Union, Geert Wilderss.
If you look at Morton Messenger, leader of Danish People's Party, look what they've just done to Le Pen.
Any of them, they've been hit by the courts.
So they target you, they weaponize the courts, they do this.
So I played my film.
ian crossland
Let me ask you, they forced his hand because they tried, they used the corrupt judiciary to try and strip him of everything he owned.
tommy robinson
But thanks to Elon Musk, that doesn't work now because the world's eyes are watching.
So I keep saying, when I played my film, they took me to court and they said, if you ever, if you ever show anyone, I had covert recordings proving corruption.
If you ever show anyone this, you get two years in jail.
On the 27th of July in central London, 100,000 people, million watching on live.
I played the film and said, now send me a jail.
Come and send me a jail.
And they did send me a jail.
I got 167 million views, that documentary.
tim pool
I want to ask for your advice real quick on this because you said May 16th?
tommy robinson
May 16th, please, Tim.
tim pool
So bring your eyes.
I used to travel all the time, especially when I worked at Vice.
And the standard policy was usually fly under the radar.
When you approach the border checkpoint, just be as vague as possible.
Like, what are you here for?
Just checking things out, probably film a little bit.
Ha ha, you see how it goes.
Uh, when I went to go interview Kim.com in New Zealand, they intentionally set me up with a second interview so that if I was asked, because it's a small country why I was there, I would say, we're interviewing this person.
And it's true, I don't need to bring up Kim.com.
They may have turned me around.
In this instance, I think I'm way too high profile.
So if I went, I would have to say I am here for Tommy Robinson.
tommy robinson
What I'd say is, well, I heard Kier Starmer in the Oval Office and he talked about the freedom of speech in Great Britain, so I'm here to experience that freedom of speech.
ian crossland
You said the prime minister.
tim pool
I'm going to say naughty things in your country.
Christmas Call to Prayer 00:08:24
ian crossland
Things that you said that stand out to me, people are saying that Christ is king.
How does the actual emperor feel about that?
Not that you can speak for Charles, but the King of England, the King of the Emperor.
tommy robinson
Fuck Charles.
Yeah, he's not like King.
ian crossland
How does Chucky feel about other people saying we're going to serve?
tim pool
How did you feel about the Queen?
tommy robinson
I love the Queen.
tim pool
It is kind of sad.
tommy robinson
I love the Queen.
Prince Charles is a traitor.
He is World Economic Forum.
He's all this global homogenization.
He loves Sharia.
tim pool
Tommy Jesus.
tommy robinson
He loves Islam.
He's in Qatar's pocket.
phil labonte
Do you think his heir will be better?
tommy robinson
Yes, I like Prince William and I like Kate.
Yes, it should have skipped Prince Charles.
Prince Charles has always been politicized.
He's always been weak.
He did with Qatar.
Look, Qatar, we talked about the Muslim Brotherhood Revolution earlier, yeah?
There would never be a Muslim Brotherhood if it wasn't for Qatar.
There would not be a Hamas if it wasn't for Qatar.
There wouldn't be an al-Qaeda if it wasn't for Qatar.
tim pool
What can William do?
Like, let's say Charles advocates whatever.
tommy robinson
I think they need to recognize, which is happening anyway, with or without them.
What we've done now, you see, the cultural celebration, we held a celebration at Christmas called Crisis King.
Now, they've took Christ out of Christmas in the UK.
And this is where America, I know you've got your Bible belt here, yeah.
Stick to your Christian principles.
Do not allow it to be eroded like Britain has, because a void is then filled with whether it be communism, Marxism, LGBTQ, Islam, Islamism, all these things fill this void.
And then you have a broken people who are lost without any identity or any or any structure.
And that's what's happened to us.
Broke the family, broke the community, broke the spirit, broke Christianity.
The church leaders do not represent us.
So when I was leading the English Defence League, six local councils, six councils across the country, changed the name of Christmas.
Winter Festival, winter celebration.
So there's 360 councils in the UK.
So I sent them all a letter saying, my name is Tom Robinson, leader of the English Defence League.
When we come to your city, it costs half a million to a million pounds to police our demonstrations.
You have to board up the city.
If you take the word Christ out of Christmas this year, and if you Google this, put Tommy Robinson Blackmail's Council Christmas.
If you take the word Christ out of Christmas, we're coming.
And it will be accused of blackmailing Christmas letter.
So I sent every council this letter.
And I basically said, I'm a black man.
But what I realized, I learned from the Muslims on this issue.
I learned.
And it works.
And unfortunately, when you've got a group behind you who can bring places to a standstill, they bend.
Now, out of 360 councils, after we sent that letter, how many do you think took the word Christ out of Christmas that year?
Not one.
tim pool
Not one?
tommy robinson
Not one.
tim pool
I was going to say maybe five.
tommy robinson
Not one.
And I then left the English Defense League in 2014 because I felt that the way we were managing ourselves, conducting ourselves, I felt a bit embarrassed as I've grown up.
I feel embarrassed.
I see, I went to a group in Germany called Pagida and I saw the peaceful way they conducted themselves, the orderly way they conducted themselves.
Some of our supporters were there for a day out, not there for a cause.
It meant so much to so many different people.
So I've grown up and I've learned that a better way to get our message across.
But back then, 2014, they didn't do it.
Then a shopping center put in, you know, the whole Saudi sort of toilets where you got a hole in the ground.
So I contacted the shopping center.
I said, you've got a week to put toilets in.
Yeah, you're in Great Britain.
What are you putting holes in the floor for?
Put a toilet in.
In a week, they put the toilets in.
My local town, Luton Town Centre, in my shopping center, they were opening a mosque in the shopping center.
So I went into the shopping center.
There's a family bakery called Robbie's.
It's been there 40 years.
I went up to, and the mosque was going to be next door to it.
I said, have you been consulted about this mosque?
They said, no.
I said, what do you think?
And I said, what do you think we think?
Outside every mosque, it's 50, 60 men.
Said, our business is going to end.
So I went into the Turkish Muslim-owned business.
Another restaurant near there.
I said, what do you think, lads?
They said, last thing we need is a mosque.
unidentified
Wow.
tommy robinson
I went around all the businesses.
What do we think?
So no one had asked for it.
No one had been consulted.
So I said to the leader of the shopping center, I said, I'm telling you what I'm going to do.
I'm going to shut your shopping center down every Saturday.
Literally, you're going to get no trade.
I'm going to bring this town to a standstill in Luton because I had the power to do that at the time because I had an army of men behind me.
I said, that's what we're going to do.
So if you open, if you dare to open that mosque, they never opened the mosque.
unidentified
Wow.
tommy robinson
Now, this is what the Islamic community do.
They just threaten them.
So they threaten the government, the government panda.
The government bow.
tim pool
It's what we see here in the United States when you have the right and the conservatives.
You know what?
I'll give you the example of this.
I don't know if you saw the incident where the fat kid punched the pro-ICE kid.
Big story.
Probably not that big for you guys over in the UK.
But here, there is a kid in a school in Illinois, it's at Chicago, holding up a sign saying, I support ICE.
A fat kid comes in and says, I'm going to punch you in the face.
And then he's like, you're going to get in trouble.
And then the kid punches him in the face.
And the kid who gets hit says, you're going to get in trouble.
This is the problem I see.
And I'm not trying to disrespect this kid who was saying he supported ICE, but the right gets punched and just says, that's not allowed.
But here's the thing.
You got to defend yourself.
Say, don't punch me, otherwise a fight will begin.
We are allowed to defend ourselves.
The point is, the police, the administrators don't want to be involved.
So what happens?
Someone says, if you do it, I will harm you.
We get this from the far left all the time.
The example that I love to give back during the Berkeley riots was with the censorship on X on Twitter at the time.
I said, do you think that Twitter fears Carl Benjamin pulling together a horde of classical liberals with torches to go burn down buildings?
No, of course not.
So when Carl Benjamin says something, they say, we don't care what your threats are.
Do you think that they fear the far left will put on black masks with Maltaf cocktails and crowbars and come beat and burn things down?
Of course they will.
So when the far left says, shut them down, they say, please don't hurt me.
We'll do whatever you say.
When Carl Benjamin says that is immoral and wrong, they say, what are you going to do about it?
unidentified
I don't care.
ian crossland
You get it for the park.
No, exactly.
tommy robinson
In the city of Birmingham, they were building a mega mosque on a disused building, a massive mega mosque.
And there was big arguments about when we had the English Fence League.
So we got up in the middle of the night and we played the call of prayer on a speaker system to let the community know what's going to happen.
Muslims come out, they were writing in the middle of the night.
And then I went home and I read that a Muslim had attacked a police officer with a brick, but then he had been 200 Muslims with the Imam went to the police station, demanded his release, and they let him go.
So I read this and thought, well, that couldn't have happened.
But as leader of the English Fence League, I used to have gold commander meetings with the police.
So when we go to cities, we meet with the police hierarchy and we discuss what we're doing.
We try and work with them to make sure it's a safe event.
So I went to the meeting.
I said, lads, can I ask you a question?
I said, I read this story about when we was in Dudley and a Muslim attacked a cop with a brick and you just let him go.
They all just looked at each other.
I went, tell me that's not right.
And they said, Tommy, we've got a way up.
We've got to weigh up one arrest and one charge.
We've got to weigh up a city burning in Birmingham.
And if the city in Birmingham burns, so does Bradford.
So does Oldham.
We saw what happened in 2002.
So it's one arrest, Tommy.
And I said, so hold on a minute, lads.
So who controls the streets of Birmingham?
It's not you, Lot, is it?
It's the Imam.
The Imam told you what to do and you've done it.
Now, you don't do that for us.
And that's why they have a continued threatening force where their leaders say we won't be able to control the roof.
You can't upset Muslims because they'll behead you.
You can't upset Muslims because they'll blow things up.
You can't upset them.
And they use that.
They use that.
They use it.
And I used it with it.
And I learned from them.
I used it in this period.
And it worked.
unidentified
Well, there was.
libby emmons
I was thinking it's a crazy thing in Brooklyn when I lived in Brooklyn.
And I lived in Bay Ridge, which is a pretty, it's a pretty Arab neighborhood.
It's actually where Linda Sarsour is from.
And it's where Osama bin Laden's family would hang out when they were in New York.
And I moved into this apartment building and there was a call to prayer.
And I could hear it all the time.
And gradually the church bells stopped.
So I wouldn't be hearing church bells anymore.
I would just be hearing the call to prayer.
And when I moved out here, it was like, oh, wait a second, those are church bells again.
That's so, and it felt so nice to hear church bells instead of all this chanting.
And every weekend, there would be, almost every weekend, there would be these massive anti-Israel protests right on my block where they were like yelling and screaming about Israel.
And it was really, it was crazy.
I was like, why is this, why is this going on right here in the middle of Brooklyn in a neighborhood that like, you know, it's a classically immigrant neighborhood.
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libby emmons
It had been Norwegian, it had been Greek, it had been Italian, and now it had been Chinese, it has had been, you know, Central American, and now it's primarily Arabic.
And you can't, there's like no room for anybody else now.
You know, all the Greeks and Italians and everybody else lived together.
It was fine.
You know, Central Americans, Chinese, everyone, you know, shop at each other's grocery stores and you're like, oh, you guys have the good noodles.
This is great.
And now they don't like tolerate living together.
tommy robinson
Well, they don't.
And the thing is, what Americans need to realize is, and everyone needs to realize is, you know, like the little promo for a movie.
That's where we're at at the moment, is the promo.
The movie ain't started.
When the movie starts, which is gonna, I don't think anyone's quite aware of the danger that's been brought into your nation.
tim pool
Do you remember what Erdogan said?
tommy robinson
The mosque is our barracks.
He said there is no moderate Islam, this Islam.
tim pool
And we will, I have, I have millions of people in your countries.
tommy robinson
Yeah, you threaten Germany.
Shut up, or we will make them rise up.
Moroccans make up, I think there's half a million Moroccans now.
Is there in and 40% of the Moroccan second generation have been in contact with the police?
This is Moroccans.
It's the same situation in Holland.
And you know, the grooming scandal, it's not unique to Britain.
In Moroccan, in Holland, they call it Loverboy.
In India, they call it Love Jihad.
It's exactly the same issue.
unidentified
Yeah.
tommy robinson
It's going on in every country.
If you don't think it's going on in America, right?
It's happening.
You will have Islamic grooming gangs wherever there's Islamic community.
100%.
Now, your Democrat Party will be doing exactly the same as the Labour Party.
The same way the Minnesota fraud was allowed and it's covered up.
They knew it's happening.
They turned a blind eye.
They'll turn a blind eye to the American girls getting raped.
phil labonte
You already see the seeds of it with all the Palestinian flags and all of the support for Gaza.
tommy robinson
I think that was great as well.
Not great.
I think many of these things had to happen, right?
The riots had to happen in the UK.
Lucy Connolly was a mother.
She got 31 months for a tweet.
That had to happen.
Now, when the government, after the Southport riots, when they tried to blame it all on me, they made me the scapegoat for these riots.
They hoped that people would kill me.
I've got death threats again.
But when they done that, they locked up Lucy Connolly, who was a mother.
They gave her 31 months in prison.
They televised the court cases.
Within 48 hours of people going to a demonstration, they were locked up and put in prison.
No one got bail.
Everyone got remanded.
So they literally, literally politicized the courts and the media as a weapon against the British public.
Now, locking up Lucy Connolly, there was Peter Lynch was a grandfather.
He held a sign against the government.
They locked him up.
He hung himself in jail because of the targeting from the Muslim gangs.
Muslims have took over our prison system.
The most recent prison I was in was 40% Muslim population from a population of five or six percent Muslims.
Now, they've done this in order to strike fear into the British public.
The same as January 6th.
January 6th was supposed to strike fear into the American public.
It was supposed to stop you ever demonstrating again.
They could rob elections.
They could do what they want.
You're too scared to protest because of the consequences of what they will do to you.
Look what they've done to all those protesters.
Now, rather than scare the British public and scare the mothers and grandmothers by what they've done to Lucy Connolly, they lit a fire in the heart of British mums.
Our demographic now is British mums and nans at the demonstrations.
It's families.
It didn't work.
It didn't work.
And I always say it's in British DNA.
We fight.
We are fighters.
We fight.
We have forgot who we are.
And all we need to do is remember who we are and where we come from.
Remember what our forefathers done.
Remember what runs in our blood.
It's in our blood to fight.
And everyone kept talking about when the British lion's going to wake up.
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tommy robinson
When's it going to wake up?
And I've been looking for years thinking, where is this fucking British lion?
Where is it?
It's awake now.
And I'm confident it's awake.
It's awake.
You're going to witness a cultural revolution.
You're going to witness a political revolution.
The problem is we're running out of time.
You can learn.
America can look and learn.
It's whether you're brave, you have rhinos, you have people who are conservative in name only.
You have all the same problems that we had.
It's whether they're going to stand up quick enough and fast enough before the problem is so embedded in your country as it has become in Europe.
You have an opportunity to save America.
tim pool
I do think that there is no path to winning for whatever this machine is that's supplanting the West because it looks like the end result would be more just like the fall of Rome.
It's going to disintegrate.
tommy robinson
Yeah, chaos is coming.
unidentified
Yep.
tommy robinson
But I don't know if Americans are aware.
I don't know if you really realize that when you vote for Donald Trump, which was supposed to be a vote to save America, that's far bigger than America.
It was a vote to save Western civilization.
If you don't survive, if you don't have legitimate elections, if you don't say have free speech here, there's no freedom anywhere in the world.
We don't have it.
We live in a post-free speech era.
Do you know when I heard JD Vance's speech?
You know, recently Rubio in Munich, when we hear these speeches coming out, the American, the American state, telling our European politicians that we need free speech as people, do you know how much an uplift this gave all of us?
I felt like we were losing.
I felt like we had no hope.
Elon Musk literally picked me up off the ground.
I'd fled the country.
I was sat in Spain.
I was demoralized.
I was beaten.
We'd lost all social media.
We didn't have a voice.
And then Elon Musk went, boom, go on, boys.
There you go.
Have your voice back.
tim pool
You know what it is?
Elon's got a chip on his shoulder.
He creates the best electric car company in the world.
Tesla is sound like hotcakes.
Everybody loves it.
He played the game the way they said to play it and he became the richest man because of it.
And what did they do?
They exclude him from these events.
They tax him.
They bar his pay packages.
And I think finally he said, it's a big club and you ended even when you're Elon Musk.
Because it's not about being rich.
And this is funny.
There's a meme where someone said that Elon is more in line with the working class than the billionaire elites.
And the liberals look at that like a joke.
No, the issue is if you are a globalist World Economic Forum elitist, you are likely going to be wealthy and in the circle.
And if you're outside that and gain power through other means, you are still never going to be welcoming.
I think Elon personally is offended that he has done so much good the way they described it.
And they still treat him like crap and try and strip him of his resources.
So he says, I'm going Trump.
ian crossland
That guy is Julius Caesar, is Elon Musk.
If they try and take his money with legal lawfare, you will see him use the force of technology around him to overthrow this system.
So he's the real.
tommy robinson
I don't think he'll be remembered for putting Brookies up in space.
His place in history is free speech.
He has saved.
He has single-handed.
Everything that you're witnessing happen in Britain, when you watch, and I believe it's coming, I believe revolution's coming in Britain.
I believe the people are awake.
They wouldn't have been without Elon Musk.
None of us would have been.
We wouldn't even have a chance.
tim pool
Hold on.
People need to remember a chance now.
People need to remember.
Like when Megan Murphy was banned from Twitter for saying men aren't women, though.
People need to remember.
You could not say, don't wear a mask on YouTube.
You couldn't even say, I believe the coronavirus came from the coronavirus lab across the street.
They were banning you left and right, demonetized, censored, and it was only ever in one direction.
But Elon Musk's purchase of Twitter shifted the market balance.
And all of a sudden, Alex Jones was back.
Eventually, Nick Fuentes was back.
And this put a tremendous pressure on the other social media platforms where they said, we will lose the market battle if we do not ease up.
And guess what ended up happening?
I believe it is wholly because Elon bought X and opened the door back up that it forced YouTube and other platforms to be more, to back off of their overt censorship to the tremendous degree that they were doing it.
ian crossland
And even Biden's regime was forcing them behind the scenes.
So when Biden got kicked out of office or left, they were like, oh, we don't have to do the will of the tyrant anymore.
tim pool
But Elon made those moves during Biden was worried about prison.
tommy robinson
That's what I believe.
ian crossland
What's that?
tommy robinson
Zuckerberg was worried about prison.
tim pool
Oh, yeah, he said that.
tommy robinson
Even though he started going to the gym and become a man.
libby emmons
That's why he had to do that because he was worried about prison.
unidentified
You had to do that.
tommy robinson
When Trump won the election, you better sort this shit out.
But even now, Meta, which is Facebook, Dana White, I believe, has been put in the position to resource some sort of free speech.
I'm still banned from Facebook.
I never committed a crime.
You can't even say my name on Facebook.
ian crossland
It's a free speech thing because, okay, you're dealing with the British form of free speech, which isn't real.
Well, isn't American free speech?
Like, you serve free speech at the king's leisure, basically.
If the king wants to raise an army and kill you, I think he has the legal authority to do it.
Is that not true?
tommy robinson
I don't know, but he's a wanker.
He never would.
unidentified
Free speech.
tim pool
I wish you had a king.
tommy robinson
I wish you had a king.
I wish we still had the question.
ian crossland
Because Americans, we have told we have free speech, just like the British are told.
But then if the corporation wants to shut you off.
tommy robinson
When I say that, when you talk about the constitution and free speech, you didn't really have it because at that time for those few years there, they controlled big tech, which was where free speech was then used.
So they didn't care you having free speech to stand to speak to one other person because you couldn't use it like this, could you?
We were having a discussion.
You couldn't have had this discussion.
tim pool
No, no, absolutely not.
I mean, even during this period, like up until a few years ago, we couldn't have you on.
tommy robinson
No.
tim pool
It was difficult.
Let me ask you a question, though.
tommy robinson
You still won't monetize me, though, YouTube.
tim pool
We'll see what happens.
I think we'll be okay.
But let me ask you a question.
If let's say that Charles goes into a Blue Origin spaceship and says, I'm going to Mars, he's gone.
And then William takes the throne.
What could he do?
What could he do that would affect change in a meaningful way, in your opinion?
tommy robinson
I just think that they need to stand for Britain and Christianity and stop talking about being...
Prince Charles says he's the leader of the faiths.
Faiths?
tim pool
Yeah.
tommy robinson
You're the leader of the faith.
Not faiths.
We have the Quran and we have the Bible in the same drawer.
Which one do you think is on top of which?
tim pool
Well, I think we all know.
tommy robinson
But that's the point.
That's the point.
How have we got to this position?
How are we pandering?
How are we surrendering?
How are we lying to the public?
How are we lying to each other?
tim pool
You know, I saw this video.
There's this liberal woman.
She does Man on the Street interviews, Woman on the Street interviews.
And we're going to try and book her.
She's a young liberal.
She had a video where she was talking to some, what is it, stupid organization?
Not like this guy was good.
He was an American first guy, but he looked kind of silly.
And he said that we want to bring Christianity back into government.
She responds with Christianity was never in government.
We have a separation of church and state.
Completely incorrect.
Completely incorrect.
There's a reason why we put our hand on the Bible and swear when we're taking an oath in our courtrooms.
It's changed in the past couple of decades to now be any book of faith.
tommy robinson
Our politicians are swearing.
Second Quran, as I guess.
tim pool
Right.
Any item.
But the important thing is, it is true that before the foundation of the United States, and you can argue, many people argue the exact date when the United States came to be, you had to, in each of these states, profess a belief in a Christian God.
In most states, it was a Protestant God.
In some, it was, well, you know, because as Catholics, you do you.
But you had to profess a faith in a Christian God to hold office, and it's still true in many states.
However, around the time of the ratification of the Constitution, many of these states eased off of that requirement, but it was largely because it was presumed to be.
And the issue at play was not Christianity, it was your sect of Christianity.
So Maryland famously was largely Catholic.
So they said, so long as you're Christian, you're good.
And this was your freedom of religion.
I'm not saying it should be that way.
I'm saying that's the way it was.
And so this very much was a Christian nation where you put your hand on the Bible and swore because people were God-fearing.
They would not lie with their hand on the Bible.
Now it's whatever you think.
And what do we have?
We have a fractured community in the United States.
Diversity is not strength.
It is we have the Somali community as the greatest example of they are going to extract from you for their benefit.
Diversity didn't benefit this country.
It made it so that large sectors of individuals exploited those who are weak enough to be exploited.
They no longer fear God, or at least they don't fear ours.
And so when they go to court and they put their hand on whatever object they deem to be their object, they're just going to lie.
They don't care.
So it's now just about accruing power.
And Democrats, I would argue that Democrats are the party of let's extract whatever we can in the short term.
Who cares what the future holds?
Kick the can down the road.
And conservatives are, as long as I sound like I'm right, I don't care if the country burns.
ian crossland
A bunch of people that don't have a vision for the future.
It is unfortunate on both sides of the aisle.
You see people that can't see three years.
tommy robinson
We don't plan beyond our political politicians.
This is the problem.
They're planning four years.
Islam's planning hundreds of years.
ian crossland
So it's Chinese.
tim pool
And China.
tommy robinson
That's it.
We're planning four years.
ian crossland
Some of you asked about William.
What could William do?
I'm going to mention this to William when I see him too, but some idea that I like to ask you, Tommy, probably within the next 1.7 years.
What is the strength of the British royal family?
The biggest strength is their land ownership.
They have a lot of territory.
What if they converted the royal family into a corporation, the wealthiest corporation on the planet, and they created a republic, like the best government on land where?
tommy robinson
They own less property in London now than Qatar do.
ian crossland
But if they, a way to get away from monarchy, because monarchy is like a dead tribalistic feared thing, like one guy could replace it with a republic.
Like William could write up the greatest government on earth.
tim pool
Let me ask you, what would you do if like Charles abdicates, right?
And then William like walks out on the balcony or whatever and he just goes, Deus Walt.
How would you feel?
tommy robinson
I feel great.
Now we're getting somewhere.
ian crossland
Would you be more comfortable if they converted away from monarchy and created a better...
Because the technocracy that's being built is probably inevitable out of the World Economic Forum.
tommy robinson
I feel that politicians and probably the world, when there's a shift, which is happening now, they'll all jump.
I watch now as political figures.
Did you see face the flags in the UK?
phil labonte
Yeah.
tommy robinson
The campaign.
You couldn't drive.
You never see a flag in the UK.
You couldn't drive from one road to another road without seeing a flag.
Overnight, the whole country was littered with flags.
phil labonte
Is that something that's ongoing now?
Do you still see more Union Jackson?
tommy robinson
It's ongoing.
It will come again in summer.
It was ongoing.
And it was a sign of resistance and a sign of we and this is where people, when you actually witness your culture disappearing, your identity disappearing, you start searching for it and you start panicking.
And that's what Britain's doing in the last two years.
They're panicking and they're searching.
And then they're looking.
And if you look at the figures of how many young men are now going to church in the UK, the figures are going through the roof.
It's the fastest revival of Christianity that's happening.
Something huge is happening.
And that is men searching for identity.
There's now all these groups of young men meeting in parks to pray and to wrestle and to fight and young men changing.
No one's in the churches, the Church of England.
They're so detached from the people, which is now why you're seeing a rise now in Christian nationalism in Britain, which is happening probably across Europe, but it's happening because people have lost their cultural identity.
Now, I think that when you shift politics, which is what we've managed to do in the UK, now all the political figures, the people who were silent, like Robert Jenrick has just joined Reform.
He was our immigration minister for 14 years.
He's now mass deportations.
What about the rape gangs?
Islam, this, he turned up at a court case.
This is insane.
He turned up at the court case to defend the man who burnt the Quran.
That's unthinkable 12 months ago.
So something huge is happening.
And that's where what's happened is they know public opinions with us.
They know the public are listening to us.
They know this revival, this revolution is brewing, it's happening.
And they all jump ship.
They don't give a shit.
Politicians don't give a shit.
Nigel Fridge was against mass deportations 12 months ago.
Now he's for it.
He didn't care about demographic replacement.
Now he has to.
As Rupert Lowe grows, he will shift the overtime window.
I've never seen a shift like this.
And remember, I've been doing this 15 years.
So I get to understand the feeling of the people when I walk around the streets.
Something orgasmic, something historic is happening in Britain.
People are awakening at a number that is just insane.
People are feeling passionate.
And you know, I went to Ireland.
I've done a documentary called Rise of the Celts, Rise of the Celts Plantation 2.
And I went there and I knew because of the situation in Britain.
So I wore a hidden camera.
And I went to Ireland and I went to the cities affected by the new migrant invasion because it's new to Ireland.
Remember, we've had like a little drip, slowly.
One rape, two rapes, ten rapes, twenty rapes.
Ireland have had no immigration and overnight they've flooded the nation.
So I knew there was going to be resistance.
My mum's Irish.
I know the fight in Irish.
I know how they are.
Don't mess with an Irish woman.
And I'd seen the mums leading the revolution in Ireland.
So I went over to Ireland.
I wore a hidden camera.
I went up to women in the street and said, Excuse me, what's happened?
What's it like living here?
And the women would say, we're scared.
I can't walk the street.
Do you know?
I work there.
I live there.
My husband has to come pick me up to walk me home.
My friend was every woman I spoke to on you can watch the documentary.
Everyone I spoke to on COVID recording said how scared they were, the changing face of their town, they're panicked.
Then I'd say, okay, I'm a journalist from the UK.
Come here, mate.
And I'll call my camera over.
No, no, no.
Can't say that on camera.
No, no, no, no, I can't say anything.
And that is self-censorship.
They don't need laws to take your speech when you're too scared to exercise your speech.
You're too scared for cancel culture to lose your job for threats.
But those same women 24 months ago that were whispering and hiding their faces are now on TV outside.
They're organizing their own demonstrations outside hotels in towns and cities.
That fear has gone.
Something's happened where the dam has burst.
People are not silent now.
People are not going to be silent.
So it's the cat's out of the bag.
They can't put it back in.
They keep hoping.
Every time they try and make a move, like put me in jail last year, it just builds us.
So whatever they want to do, when I land back from America, I expect to probably be arrested again for something.
It's not going to work.
phil labonte
Yeah, do you think that it's reached the inflection point that the more that they, you know, like the more they squeeze, the more people slip out and realize that they're trying to actually do it?
tommy robinson
Because of because of social media, because of Elon Musk, because of our freedom again, because they can't silence us in the way they could, people can see it.
So I don't mind.
When I played that film, I thought, yeah, send me a jail.
Go on, please send me a jail because I'm going to walk out of jail and I'm going to walk out to a nation that's awake.
167 million people watch my film.
My film absolutely proved the corruption of the judiciary, the weaponization of the court.
It showed, do you know what it showed?
It showed the unholy alliance of the media, the judiciary, the NGOs, the far left.
It showed and proved how I can't give you the name of the film.
I can't share the film because I go straight to prison for two years.
I can't even tell you right now.
I'm for the rest of my life.
I spent 80 months.
I got an 80-month prison sentence.
When I was getting released from prison, four weeks before I got released from prison, they told my solicitor, the minute he walks out, he's going straight back to jail.
Yeah, for two years, unless he removes that film.
So the film, when I went to court, they said, delete the film and we'll give you a reduced sentence.
I said, I'm not deleting the film.
The film's staying on my ex.
And I held it on my ex.
And I was in jail, 1st of January.
And this was a risk because it might not have worked.
But when I was in jail, the first January, I rang my son, and my son's like, Dad, dad, dad.
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tommy robinson
I said, what?
He said, Elon Musk has pinned the film.
I went, what?
He said it's on 50 million, 60 million.
And I'm ringing each.
I was ringing back a few hours later.
It's on 100 million views.
I was like, yes, we've done it.
We've done it.
We have showed the world what they're doing.
We've shown the court that the faith in the judiciary is ended.
They cannot lie to people anymore.
They bring up my criminal record.
Yeah, well, I've faced lawfare for 15 years.
Yeah.
I've never been tried by a jury.
I've been in 10 prisons.
I've spent years of my life on solitary confinement for my journalism.
It's insane.
And I've never been tried by jury, by my peers.
Never.
Never once.
libby emmons
Why haven't you been able to?
tommy robinson
Because they bring it because contempt of court is the only offense you can get two years in prison without a jury.
So they charge me with contempt to court twice, three times.
They've charged me with contempt to court.
Now, contempt of court, one time it was proven illegal.
I spent 12 weeks in solitary.
They had to release me.
And each time I've come out of solitary, I've come out a mess.
An absolute mess.
Seven months sitting in a room on my own.
I was a mess.
I come out each time damaged by it.
tim pool
We're going to go to questions from the Discord community that's watching right now.
So for everybody who's watching live, smash the like button, share the show.
Of course, really do appreciate it that you guys are tuning in.
We got some great questions coming in from the Discord Timcast.com community.
We got Hades Farmer member says, Tommy, serious question.
Would you prefer the Marines or Rangers or both to help liberate you and Britain?
To help you liberate Britain?
tommy robinson
The SBS.
phil labonte
There you go.
tommy robinson
Special Boat Squad.
The best of the best.
Now, do you know what?
We've still got the military on our side.
We've still got, they are trying to weaken the military.
They're destroying the military.
They're destroying the confidence in the military.
They're demoralizing the military.
libby emmons
They were doing that here too.
And then Pete Hegseth and Trump came in.
And now there's like people are signing up.
ian crossland
People want freedom and free speech, but like there's no going back to what it used to be before the internet.
And like, it's kind of like, okay, well, we won.
We win.
So what is it going to be now?
And if we don't give them a data of what it's going to be, they'll make something else, which will be technocracy, spy tech, go to jail for saying fuck, things like that.
But we have to craft something better right now.
tim pool
Let's grab another question.
We got Bert.
He says, question for Tommy.
What would it take for you to apply for asylum in the U.S.?
And if you won't, what can Americans do to help you?
tommy robinson
Shine a torch on Britain, shine a torch on Europe, defend America.
If you survive, we survive.
That's the reality.
If you don't survive, everywhere fools.
If you don't survive, everywhere fools.
Everywhere.
tim pool
What would it take?
You said you didn't want to abandon your country, but is there something that could happen where you'd say, okay, I got to get out of here?
tommy robinson
No.
For my kids, I just wish I wish my family were there.
tim pool
Yeah.
You know, the story that I often tell about the problem of this global homogenization is I went to NASA in the Bahamas.
And I was on a cruise and they were like, we were supposed to go to the cruise owned an island with like beaches and huts and stuff.
It's part of the cruise.
And instead, we had to divert because of a storm to NASA.
And I thought, well, this would be cool.
unidentified
It's the Bahamas.
tim pool
It's like its own country.
I'm going to go there and have some local food.
And when I got off the boat, it was Starbucks, McDonald's, Gucci, Hard Rock.
And I was just like, this is everywhere.
This is boring.
There's nothing interesting about this.
When I go to London, I want to have fish and chips.
I want to have the full English breakfast.
I want to see a British guy with crooked teeth be like, how you do?
And I want to experience what's gone.
What's what?
tommy robinson
It's gone.
tim pool
I know.
tommy robinson
It's gone.
phil labonte
I haven't been to the UK since 2019, I think.
tommy robinson
I went to Bahamas.
So when my film, this film that I made, I obviously weren't allowed to show it.
And General, it was premiered in a, it was premiered in Florida.
General Flynn was part of it.
It was shown in Florida.
I then went to the Bahamas and I started making a documentary.
And this was when Joe Biden was in power.
I was going to come to America and do what they're doing.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tommy robinson
So I went to Bahamas.
Do you know all the people who are coming illegally into America?
Maga Movement Rising 00:07:57
tommy robinson
White Irish, travelers, gypsies.
$10,000 it was.
So I started off and it's $10,000 to get from the Bahamas into the United States illegally.
So I went there and started filming.
I thought, I'm going to do this.
But I illegally entered America once.
First time was a misdemeanor, second time was a felony.
Two-year prison sentence.
I spent three weeks in Bahamas and I was like, nah.
Now I'm snookered.
I'll get two years.
It's pointless.
I'll go straight to jail for two years in America.
But yeah.
I just, I wouldn't want to, if I claimed asylum, do you know if you claim asylum?
So when I come out of America, a lot of people, when I come out of jail this time, a lot of people were telling me to flee and claim asylum.
I feel that we have built a movement now that's never been built in Britain.
You know, the United Kingdom movement is our MAGA.
It's our MAGA.
I think I would demoralize them.
I would betray them by fleeing and leaving.
So I don't think I'm even in that position if I wanted to.
ian crossland
And Charles de Gaulle had no choice during World War II.
He was up, was that World War II?
He fled France when the Nazis took and he ruled out of Britain for a while until the Nazis were defeated.
Then he went back to France a hero.
Was that de Gaulle?
tim pool
I think that was de Gaulle.
libby emmons
But you're fighting your own government.
I mean, it's a much different, more difficult thing.
tommy robinson
Yeah, they're not going to be in government long.
Things are changing.
ian crossland
You know what?
You're a hero if you stay or if you leave.
It doesn't matter.
Just keep doing what you're doing.
That's the key.
unidentified
Thanks, bro.
tim pool
What's the radio?
We got Pastor Gandalf says, do you feel there is a boiling point being reached that will result in a significant collas between Christians and Muslims?
Asking because we have 1,400 years of Muslim history to tell us how they act.
tommy robinson
I think that, do you know what I'm seeing in America, which is pretty frustrating when I see commentators on the right of politics who are talking about the Muslim-Christian alliance and it's all the Jews' fault?
phil labonte
Yeah.
tommy robinson
And I sit there and listen to it and think, oh, you've got no fucking idea.
You've not lived with them.
You've not lived surrounded by them.
So say, for example, in Luton, I'm surrounded by terrorists.
That's just a reality.
Well, Israel is just surrounded by total terrorist states that wish the total destruction of them.
So when I see Christians, I think, well, come and, and I looked at the Christian population in Syria, in Iraq, in Afghanistan, in Nigeria, in all these countries where it's disappearing.
It's a genocide.
The only place the Christian population has grown in the Middle East is in Israel.
The only place you can safely be homosexual to all these left-wing moronic groups is Israel.
The only place you can be a feminist in the Middle East is Israel.
So I think that it's coming to a point.
I always sat and thought, will there even be a fight back?
And the problem is, they don't have to be 30, 40, 50% of the population to overthrow the country.
They don't.
Because they're youth.
So they're all going to be between 18 and 19, 21, 22 years old.
We're all going to be 60, 70 years old.
They have 5.6 children on average, I think.
3.4 in some countries, 7.1, I think, in France on average.
We have 1.3.
We can't sustain it.
But we're funding them the ability to have that.
We're paying the benefits.
So we have to do so much.
We have to address the situation.
Re-migration is the word of our next generation.
Re-migration is going to become, and that was unthinkable to say that word.
tim pool
Maybe two years ago.
Maybe the political leaders are like, I know, let's destroy our country so no one wants to be here.
tommy robinson
No, they want to be here.
They don't care, do they?
What's happening is all the good people are leaving.
My friends, they're all going to Portugal.
They're going to Dubai insanely.
Everyone's leaving.
Everyone's fleeing.
It's not safe.
The safety, I've always said, when the public realize what they've done, they're going to be so fucking angry.
They're going to look to politicians.
They're going to look to the media.
And then they're going to look to who told the truth, which is where we've got to now.
So I get people who come up to me who hated me.
My DMs every day is full of people who didn't like me saying, I'm sorry, I believe what they said.
I see now that you're just telling the truth.
So I know that as years go on, my videos are going to age very well.
Every warning I've given are going to age very well.
And people at the minute, some of them in America, your commentators who are talking about an alliance and protecting Iran, you wankers, yeah, protecting the Ayatollah of Iran, standing up and speaking for an Iran as a so-called patriot of America, it's insane.
None of it's going to age well for them because jihad's coming to America.
Jihad's here now.
The Islamic community are here.
They're going to grow in numbers.
You're going to witness it.
You're going to see the rapes.
You're going to see the terrorism.
You're going to see it all.
Although, again, it goes to those people who just say some sort of outside operation or something.
tim pool
What I can say for you.
Wikipedia doesn't describe you as a white supremacist.
So you have that going for you.
tommy robinson
Getting somewhere.
tim pool
Yeah.
tommy robinson
Winning.
We call that winning.
tim pool
It just says you're a British far-right anti-Islam activist, which is actually surprising that they didn't throw white supremacists in there.
tommy robinson
Even the word far-right, though, we're not far right.
We're not far wrong.
tim pool
Isn't it?
Isn't it?
tommy robinson
You're right.
tim pool
When I first heard of you and they were describing you as far right, I know that they exaggerate far right.
And I'm like, oh, so I assumed you were going to be like some very staunch conservative guy.
You're not even a staunch, like hardcore conservative guy.
tommy robinson
Well, growing up, I didn't care about politics.
Yeah.
And the problem is, many of us working class don't.
And that's a problem.
So we need to politicize the next generation of working class because the Islamic community are political in every sense.
They're brought up in politics within the mosque.
The mosque is a command and control center.
Islam is a political ideology.
So they're bought up in politics.
We're not.
I didn't care.
Left-wing, right-wing.
I thought I'm not rich enough or poor enough for it to make much of a difference.
Didn't give a shit.
Just wanted to live my life until my life changed due to my circumstances of my life.
But I think now, if there's anything we've done that's positive, all we're doing that's positive is we are politicizing the working class.
And you know, Kier Starmer got voted in off 9 million votes.
20 million people didn't vote.
unidentified
Yeah.
tommy robinson
He got voted in off 9 million votes.
Now, our job, what I see my job as, I don't want to be in politics, but I want to be leader of a cultural revolution, a cultural movement that gives people back their sense of identity, that electrifies that 20 million, that gives them a sense of purpose and identity and gets them politicized.
I direct them, Rupert Lowe, lads.
Rupert Lowe, yeah.
Rupert, you do the politics, yeah?
Let us do the identity.
We've lost identity.
So what we want to focus on now, we've wrote a vision that we hope we have a free of all-year vision.
Media and culture, the two and politics.
They all need to work together.
I want to build a brand of citizen journalists, an international brand, bringing together all the citizen journalists under one umbrella and giving them help.
We hope for support for this, but you see these citizen journalists who are taking out the phone and they're live streaming.
They're going to need help because they're coming under attack in the UK.
I'm watching it week in, week out.
They're being targeted by the police.
They're being targeted by the authorities.
They're going to need legal help.
They're going to need training.
I started off as an activist and become a journalist.
I went and paid for my own legal help to understand what was legal, what wasn't legal, what I can do, what I can't do.
And there's an army out there of citizen journalists which is growing in European nations.
Don't know about in America.
I know that now the alternative.
Trump won off of Trump's presidency this year.
I heard General Finn describe it as a podcast presidency.
So these new media need to be celebrated, recognized.
You have media.
tim pool
Nick Shirley.
tommy robinson
Yeah, look at Nick Shirley.
Look at Nick Shirley.
tim pool
Young guy said, I'm going to go do it.
tommy robinson
He came to each of our demonstrations, Nick.
So he came.
If you watch his videos from United Kingdom, he came and done a report on each one of ours, which is what's now needed.
We need to help each other, support each other.
And I say this to the public: get rid of Amazon, get rid of Netflix, give your support and your money to any of these shows, any of these podcasts, which have these live discussions, any of them.
You have to agree with every one of them.
Support them.
That is the next generation of media is us.
tim pool
I want to say one thing real quick too on the Nick Shirley thing is he's a young Gen Z guy.
And I hope the success that he's having, all these other young guys see that and realize you need to stand up and just go do something.
Nick Shirley, what did he do?
Get to camera.
He went to Minnesota and he started asking questions.
All of a sudden, everyone's saying, this is incredible.
Thank you for doing the work.
He chose to do the work.
Young men being inspired, instead of sitting around saying it's hopeless, it's not hopeless.
It can be done.
You've got to stand up and you just got to go do the work.
And maybe you're not going to get 2 million subscribers and followers like he did, but you're going to start somewhere.
And as long as you're laying a brick every single day, then I'll put it this way, the journey of 1,000 miles begins with a single step.
So be, in this instance, we want to be that snowflake in the avalanche.
ian crossland
I want to.
Oh, we should do more.
tim pool
We got a question here.
We've got this.
People Are Awake 00:05:24
tim pool
Sir Samuel says, how can Europe wake up to the Islam problem?
I don't think the elites will do anything.
So how do the masses wake up?
tommy robinson
They're waking up.
If you look through the voting patterns, look through the voting patterns of each nation, they're waking up.
The people are awake.
Fastest grand political parties, whether it be the AFD, Vox in Spain.
Now, to combat Vox in Spain, the leaders now recognizing a million migrants, they're worried.
They're scared.
All the fastest growing political parties, the future of Europe, the future leaders of Europe, it's not Macron.
It's not weakness.
It's men.
It's strength.
That's the future.
The future has borders.
The future is nationalism.
That's the future.
Now they're trying to withhold it.
They're trying to stop it.
They keep doing it in France.
They're banning Le Pen, but Bedella is going to be probably more successful.
So Europe's waking in.
Now, our plan, again, which we're hoping for, May 16th is Unite the Kingdom.
September 12th, we hope to unite the West.
We want to do what we're doing in London.
I went and met Salvini in Rome.
I went and met Eric Zamour in France.
I've spoken to Belgian political parties.
I've spoken to Dutch.
We want to have a day of unity across Europe to celebrate European culture and identity because mass immigration is destroying it.
And our vision is to see mass, mass cultural celebrations in every European capital city by the European people coming out and saying, listen, let the world know.
The world heard us on September 13th.
The world will hear the raw from London on May 16th to tell the world that our government are betraying us.
We've had enough.
ian crossland
You know, in addition to that, I want to steel man Islam and the values of Islam because some of it actually is pretty cool.
Fasting.
You know, it has tenets of pillars, but that whole organization of faith has been seemingly co-opted by the caliphate for 1,300 years.
I can't tell.
So the grotesque extremism, when you steel man it, then you can see the aspects of it that are wrong or that are bad.
And that's what you can fight against.
You don't have to just vaguely, you know, insult 3 billion people, you know, because they're Muslim.
tommy robinson
And what I say, you know what they say about Islamism?
Now, does everyone agree Islamism is wrong?
ian crossland
Islamism is different.
Yeah, what is Islamism exactly?
tommy robinson
Well, this is what people say is political Islam, but then I'd ask the question as, okay, was the Prophet Muhammad in Islamists.
It's all our political.
ian crossland
No, I brought this up before the show.
tommy robinson
He was.
He enforced Islam with violence.
ian crossland
Yeah, but I have a feeling, I don't know if it's true, that the caliphate came along and they're like, hey, good religion.
It would be a shame if somebody co-opted it and they took it and they used it for political power, just like the Vatican and the Catholics did with Christianity when they came along.
They formed a business around it.
tommy robinson
Muhammad was a barbarian, war-mongering, paedophile.
phil labonte
Yeah, there's actual writings that exist.
tommy robinson
Yeah, he was from a wartime.
But the problem is they don't recognize he's from a wartime.
So the difference is, so Muhammad married a six-year-old had sex with her when she was nine.
They still believe he was perfect.
And it's like, don't you recognize that time?
ian crossland
He was doing what he had to do.
tim pool
Hold on.
unidentified
It doesn't make sense.
tommy robinson
Okay, they don't accept today is any different.
He's perfect then.
He's perfect now.
So the laws of today have to be what he done.
That's sex with kids.
tim pool
What's this electronic travel authorization requirement that's beginning on the 25th in the UK?
I'm looking up because I was looking up, should I get a J visa for going to the UK?
Typically, the UK, I've been to London dozens of times because in my work, you don't need anything.
It's the UK.
It's like you show up and like, what are you here for?
It's like, I work for a media company.
I'm doing journalism.
They say, yeah, we don't care.
Like, stay up.
Welcome to the country.
Considering where we are now, I was like, maybe it would be safer if I dig at one.
But it says, when I looked it up, you actually, Americans don't need anything, but starting on February 25th, we have to apply online for approval.
So you don't, it's like, it's not really a visa.
It's just you have to write, you have to go to a website, pay £16 and say, here's my travel date.
They say, okay, we'll see you then.
So I was not familiar with this.
I wonder, we'll see.
I'll apply.
I'll plan to be there.
tommy robinson
Great, Tim.
Yeah, we'll host ya.
We'll host y'all because what we've done again, we done it last time.
We put on a dinner night for all the citizen journalists.
We give them access.
So say we had politicians from six, seven, eight nations in Europe who leaders of parties who come to speak, as well as influencers from across Europe as well, and from and from Britain.
But we give the VIP treatment.
Anyone you want to interview, we set the interview stage up for all of the new media.
unidentified
Yeah.
tommy robinson
None of the, I remember the day the Daily Mail email me, like, can we have a pass?
I'm just fucking, fuck off.
libby emmons
And you were just like, no, you can't.
tommy robinson
No, you can't.
No, you can't.
And then they run their headline, which I pulled up their headline live, and they run their headline, football looking to take to the streets of the UK.
I said, now, the problem they've got when they run this headline, it's been shared by how many people?
Hardly anyone, yeah.
We've got 800,000 people watching live.
They don't realize it yet.
You've lost, guys.
Yeah.
Where we're at now, thanks to Elon Musk, thanks to the new media, thanks to the ability of bringing all these people together.
Thanks to, for example, Tim, if you come, what you're going to show, 2 million, 3 million followers on one social media, all your, you're going to show the world what's happening in London.
It doesn't matter what the Daily Mail said.
It doesn't matter what the BBC say.
We've gone past them.
They're irrelevant.
No one trusts them.
No one believes them.
No one believes in them.
You have a passionate base here who believe in you.
You have Discord.
You have these communities.
The mainstream media don't have this.
And you see the left wing trying to do these podcasts now.
It's like you're trying, you can't do it because you can't tell the truth because what you're saying is not truthful.
Your argument's not truthful.
So, yeah.
I think that the real battle here is with the new media.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
I'm at gov.uk and Americans now require an electronic travel authorization.
The Battle for New Media 00:03:24
tim pool
It's pretty crazy.
libby emmons
They said that they did that.
Some countries did that, like Canada and others.
They said that they started doing that because of the restrictions Trump put on people coming into the U.S.
So it really just seems to be like a bit of backlash against Trump.
tim pool
They want me to download their app.
libby emmons
I never want to download an app to Canada.
Canada made you download an app if you wanted to get into Canada during COVID and they made you like fill out all this stuff on your phone.
It was pretty egregious.
ian crossland
This is the technocracy that seems inevitable.
libby emmons
It does seem really inevitable.
And it's crazy how it's like nobody wants it, but it's pressing down anyway.
ian crossland
Nations, you said nationalism is like the future, but nations are being stripped apart with internet and mass lightning speed communication and money transfer.
I don't even think nationalism has a place on earth anymore, as far as I can tell.
tim pool
That's silly.
ian crossland
Unless electricity goes out.
tommy robinson
No, that's silly because people are reverting back to national identity because they're feeling under attack.
It's like in Britain, what the European Union wanted was everyone being European.
We're not European.
tim pool
But Ian, you can make the argument like we're all American, but there's still Texas and there's still New York and there are distinct things about it and there are different laws.
And I, for instance, say, I would like to live in West Virginia because our laws are better.
So the idea that there's no nations would be silly because even at the county level, people say, I don't want to live in Cook County because I raise your taxes.
I'm going to move to DuPage.
So the borders all still exist.
The laws are all still different.
And that was always okay.
And it is creepy to me that there has been this effort for a long time to eliminate all, let's just describe it as a preference for way of living.
That's an impossibility.
The global homogenization people, these World Economic Forum Davos people are like, everything should be uniform.
Well, what happens?
Okay, take a look at Maryland.
You've got Western Maryland where it's more like West Virginia, somewhat mountainous, and you're in the middle of nowhere, and you've got wild animals, so you want a gun.
And then Baltimore says, now we're voting so that you can't have guns.
That's the stupidest thing imaginable.
The law in Baltimore restricting guns, hey, maybe that makes sense if you live in Baltimore, but doesn't make sense for people to live in the mountains.
This idea that we would create a world where we should ban guns because they're problems in cities.
But then some dude who lives in rural Wyoming is like, no, I can't have a gun.
That makes no sense.
There's not even any people to go shoot.
So, the purpose of nations on the grand scheme of things is: maybe I don't want to live in a country where women aren't allowed to drive.
Maybe I would prefer if my wife could go to the grocery store on her own without having a chaperone.
I should be able to live that way.
ian crossland
Yeah, it's better than trying to force every country to have the same law.
It's better to have different laws.
tim pool
And we can be at peace.
ian crossland
Yeah, we can be at peace, but it's challenging.
But peaceful slavery would be probably worse than chaotic freedom.
tim pool
There's a line in which we tolerate and don't tolerate certain behaviors from certain countries.
And I accept the argument that maybe there can be some kind of baseline of slavery shouldn't be allowed.
But if you want to live in a country where people are doing drugs like crazy, then good.
You go live there and we'll live in our country where we say don't do drugs.
libby emmons
The other thing, too, is it's so it becomes so apparent that the goal of mass migration has nothing to do with giving people from crappy countries a better life because they come from the crappy countries where they're like, oh, we don't want to live here anymore.
Now we're going to turn your country into the crappy country we just came from.
Why We Leave Crappy Countries 00:09:16
libby emmons
I saw this thing the other day.
It was like a viral clip and I couldn't track down if it was real or not or like something that was staged.
But it was basically this lady cop in the UK talking to like a group of like 20 Muslim guys who were like, there's a guy preaching.
tommy robinson
Preaching Christianity.
Yeah, there's a real Muslim area.
He shouldn't be doing that.
Get rid of him.
unidentified
Right.
libby emmons
And they were like, you know, he shouldn't be talking here because we live here.
And she's like, no, that's legal.
You're allowed to preach.
You can preach too if you want.
That's the beauty of the thing.
tim pool
And did you hear what the men did?
They said, oh, okay, but this was hate speech.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Because he called the prophet a donkey.
libby emmons
Well, and then he was like, I misheard it.
And if I misheard it, other people will mishear it too.
tim pool
So they tried lying to use these laws to manipulate.
Right.
I'm going to try and get some more of these questions in for the members.
Patrick of Ohio says, is Trump's attack on Iran going to stir up unrest within the Islamic communities within the USA?
Is this part of Trump's plan to justify his deportation effort?
ian crossland
Well, I would say no, because I think most Muslims in the United States are not radical and they think that theocracy is insane.
Most people think it's crazy, but that's my take.
What were you going to say?
What were you guys going to say?
tim pool
Well, what do you think about this potential strike on Iran from smash them?
Smash them.
tommy robinson
Smash them.
Iran's a very different.
So it's not Afghanistan.
It's not Iraq.
The Persian people were not Muslim.
They've had Islam enforced on them.
It's a historical wrong.
We did it.
We brought the Ayatollah in.
Britain did.
America did.
We supported it.
We shouldn't have done.
libby emmons
Because we supported the Iranian Revolution.
tommy robinson
But we supported.
If you look at all of our conflicts, we supported the Taliban.
We supported ISIS.
We funded many of these groups because geopolitically, we gave home in London to many of these terrorist organizations because it suited us politically abroad.
It suited some of our world structures at the time.
So I want to see the Ayatollah fall.
I want to see 70 million people freed.
I really passionately feel passionately about the Iranian people.
It's a very different story.
Do you know when I watch those women?
Think about this.
Many Americans after January 6th would have been scared to go out and protest.
They were scared to go into jail.
In Britain, we see people who are scared about losing their jobs.
They're worried about losing their jobs.
They're worried about being called a racist.
These people have been out on the streets now for months.
They're getting killed.
They're still out on the streets.
Women, children, families, they're not backing down.
They are fighting for their freedom of their people.
They want freedom.
America is the, America has the ability.
unidentified
Yeah.
tommy robinson
Donald Trump has made the comments.
And I'm not for when people talk about foreign intervention, I don't want to see American soldiers go into Iran.
I don't want to see British soldiers.
But I do believe there's enough that you can do to isolate the Islamic regime, to end the Islamic regime.
The people are fighting up.
He's bringing in mercenaries now from other countries to oppress the people, murder the people, pillage them.
So I watch their fight and I real feel passionately about the Iranian people and the Persian people being free.
And I really hope that each time I've watched these revolutions grow and each time I'm watching, I'm thinking, this is the time it's going to fall.
The Islamic regime's going to fall.
And it doesn't.
It's propped up.
It manages to stay in power.
So I really hope that I'm watching the formation of the American, the might of the American military surround Iran.
I hope they smash him.
tim pool
You know, I just hope that we don't get regional destabilization, which causes the rise of an ISIS-like group.
I hope that we don't have to spend billions of dollars every year for 20 years like we saw.
tommy robinson
But I think Iran and the Iranian people is a very different story to what we've seen in Iraq, Afghanistan, any of these countries.
It's a very different story.
tim pool
Yeah, I want to stress too, because it's a fair point made by my neocon friends, who I typically disagree with, is we can't be a generation traumatized by the failures of the Bush administration forever.
tommy robinson
Death to America is all the Islamic regime say.
And look at what Iran supports, the funding, the terrorism, all the organizations.
They are the epicenter.
They are a terrorist state.
I think the world would be a better place without them.
libby emmons
Well, and they fund Hamas.
tommy robinson
They fund Hamas.
They fund it all.
Well, October 7th wouldn't happen without Barack Obama going and giving them all the money.
libby emmons
Well, and they greenlit it.
Iran greenlit that attack.
It wouldn't have happened if they hadn't said it was okay.
The Wall Street Journal uncovered that.
tim pool
Well, you know what I think?
We see a lot of people that have lost their minds.
And I'm going to stress this again.
Like, I really don't, if you hate Israel, that was always allowed.
By all means, you are welcome to come sit at this table and talk to us about why you don't like Israel.
And we have many friends of the show who are very, very critical of Israel.
But there's a lot of people who go around blaming the Jews for everything.
And it freaks me out when I see individuals that I've known for a long time, their whole demeanor has shifted in six months, where they used to be like, I am concerned about free speech issues and, you know, oligopoly.
Now they're just Jew posting.
tommy robinson
Because there's a propaganda war that Israel's losing, if you believe.
I believe you like them or not, they're losing it.
They're losing it.
And that's because Iran, Qatar, these massive states with massive money are getting the next generation of influencers.
Whether it be Dan Blizzard Jane, what's his name?
The Jew said, Jew said, Dude, all these people, he's sitting taking pictures, reading the Quran, like you wanker.
Like, come on, man.
How much do you get paid for that?
Who's supporting that?
You see that?
And now, because of the youth in the country, many of the youth, whether they be Islamic or Jew haters, they're getting a lot of traction from these comments and from these posts.
It's not, people talk about me and call me a Zionist and you're a traitor and all this.
It's not a good place.
I don't get any benefit from supporting Israel, contrary to all the bullshit.
I don't get any benefit.
I just know it's the right side of the argument.
tim pool
Well, why aren't the Jews helping you out when you're getting locked up and oppressed, shut down, denied entry to countries?
tommy robinson
Many of the Jewish groups condemn me.
tim pool
That's the funny thing.
tommy robinson
Those Jewish groups condemn Israel, yeah?
Those same Jewish groups, the left-wing LGBTQ plus open border mass immigration groups, they condemn Israel.
tim pool
You know what?
What I will say is, of course, with shows like this, we don't solve all the world's problems.
But I do think that you've given a good cause for optimism.
One, just by being here, like you've made it to the United States after a long time.
You're talking about this big rally coming up.
People are waking up.
And I think that for a lot of people, this should be cause for optimism.
So for everybody watching, thank you all so much for hanging out.
We are just about at that time.
So smash the like button, of course.
Share this episode with people you think it would matter to so they can hear this because I do think you've brought a good amount of optimism.
And we're, you know, people are saying today, especially with the SCOTUS ruling, you know, I'm doom pilling or black pilling, whatever.
So I'm glad you were able to come and say, no, no, things are turning around.
Before we go, do you want to shout anything out?
Where can people find you?
tommy robinson
You can find me on X, T. Robinson, New Era, Tommy Robinson online.
Now I'm back on YouTube, which is mad.
Three weeks before I got released from jail, again, I ring my son.
He says, your YouTube channel's back then.
unidentified
Wow.
tommy robinson
It was deleted.
It was deleted.
And that shift only come from the election of Donald Trump.
That's come from the election of Donald Trump.
So we have hope.
We have hope now in Britain.
And hope's contagious.
It's pretty powerful when you've got hope.
And for a nation now, I think our people are looking, thinking, we have hope because we know we've got friends in that White House.
We know that the American government are not going to allow them to rule over us with tyranny.
And we feel that.
We see it.
We hear it from Rubio.
We hear it from JD Vance.
And again, whilst I'm in America, I want to thank America for electing Donald Trump.
I want to thank Elon Musk more than anything for relighting the fire in my belly, but also giving us a fighting chance.
tim pool
Right on.
ian crossland
Well, I'll say right off that top of that that yes, we should fight fire with fire.
If you can't beat them, join them.
We've got to build a corporate governance with Elon, with X, because to fight back against the actual corporate governance that they're trying to build out of ESG and controlling your thoughts and narratives.
If we can do it right and implement American Christian ideals into the government of the new technological era, I think.
tommy robinson
Have you seen the new website?
tim pool
That just got a lot of people to agree with you.
The first part, people were drifting away, and then you mentioned bring Christianity, and they said, okay, and tell me more.
tommy robinson
Have you seen the new website, the portal the American government are forming?
libby emmons
Freedom.gov.
tommy robinson
The Freedom Government.
So websites that are banned in Europe, things that we're not allowed to see, the American government are going to put on the website so we can see them.
Come on, America.
unidentified
So cool.
tommy robinson
It's great.
Look, Kingstarma.
Your power's gone, mate.
ian crossland
Libby Emmons.
libby emmons
Oh, that's me.
Yes.
This was so great.
I was really glad to come on today.
Thanks, Tim, for having me.
I'm Libby Emmons.
You can find me on Twitter at Libby Emmons, and you can check out my podcast, ThePod Millennial, at thepodmillennial.com, which has all the links.
And our latest episode was with Drea DeMateo, and it was really pretty wild and crazy.
Thanks.
phil labonte
I am Phil that remains on Twix.
The band is All That Remains.
We're going on tour this spring.
We start in Albany on April 29th.
We go through May.
Bands going out with us are Born of Osiris and Dead Eyes.
You can check out all that remains music at Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify, YouTube, and Deezer.
You can check out tickets for the tour at allthatremainsonline.com.
Don't forget the left lane is for crime.
unidentified
Carter.
carter banks
I'm Carter Banks.
You can follow me everywhere at Carter Banks, follow our label Trash House Records.
Tommy, thanks so much for coming.
I was really kind of like expecting a lot of darkness, but you brought a lot of positivity with everything that you've done and an outlook that's really inspiring.
So thank you again.
Thank you for coming out, man.
tim pool
Absolute legend, Tommy.
Thank you so much for hanging out.
tommy robinson
Thank you very much, bro.
See you in May 16th, yeah.
tim pool
I'm going to start.
We're getting the gears going, man.
We're going to keep it going.
For everybody else, thank you guys for hanging out this special Friday episode.
We're back, of course, on Monday.
I'm probably going to be working a little bit throughout the weekend, so you may see some stuff from me.
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