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EPSTEIN ARRESTS HAVE BEGUN | Timcast IRL #1453 w/ Robbie Bernstein

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Leaking State Secrets? 00:01:30
tim pool
Prince Andrew, or former Prince Andrew, has been arrested.
And this is in direct relation to the release of the Epstein files, where it's been revealed he was arrested for potentially releasing information to Epstein on foreign affairs.
And it's a big deal.
He is facing life in prison, which is pretty dang wild.
Now, Thomas Massey, you know him, you love him.
I don't know, maybe not.
He tweeted out an image of all of the different hoaxes and scandals for which no one has been arrested save Epstein files, which he changed the zero to a one.
Now, this guy, Andrew, he's not being arrested for trafficking or anything like that.
Some are speculating that it's because they can't, because the statute of limitations would be up at this point.
No, I think they're getting him because he was leaking state secrets to Epstein, which is actually, honestly, in my opinion, much more interesting.
And I don't mean to downplay the severity of what Epstein is accused of, but Prince Andrew leaking state secrets to Epstein, the question is why.
The speculation has been for some time that Epstein was working for foreign intelligence.
Perhaps, as Dan Bongino stated on this show, Middle Eastern intelligence.
We wonder which country.
Why then would Andrew be giving privyed information to Epstein?
It makes you wonder.
Could it perhaps be blackmail?
That's the longstanding theory that Andrew was being blackmailed by Epstein or not necessarily Andrew, but that Epstein was blackmailing powerful world leaders for access, information, or otherwise.
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tim pool
So we'll talk about that.
Very interesting.
But my favorite story actually is that Trump confirmed aliens are real.
And I got a community noted, or no, they're trying to community note me on X because Trump was asked on Air Force One about Obama claiming aliens are real.
And Trump immediately goes, that's classified information.
He shouldn't have done that.
And then Ducey is like, so they are real.
And he's like, well, I don't know, but it's classified information.
And so everyone's like, well, Obama saying a thing, you know, aliens existing, and then Trump just blurting out that was classified implies it's true and you're not supposed to know.
So we'll talk about that.
There are a bunch of other interesting stories, of course, we have throughout the day that we'll get into.
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Claims About Trump Corroborated 00:15:37
tim pool
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more, it's Robbie Bernstein.
robbie bernstein
Hey, pleasure to be here.
tim pool
Who are you?
What do you do?
robbie bernstein
Oh, I'm Robbie Bernstein.
I'm a comedian.
I got a podcast, Run Your Mouth, and I also do Dave Smith's show, Part of the Problem.
So a little bit in the hybrid comedy and, you know, politics lane.
tim pool
There was a, I guess like a mini beef between me and Dave that wasn't really a beef, but other people told me I had a beef.
And then Piers Morgan had us both on, and I was like, well, Dave's my friend.
And then he was like, I loved him.
And Piers Morgan was like, oh, come on, because he wanted us to yell at each other.
No, but it was a lot of fun.
Dave's great.
robbie bernstein
It was funny after the episode because I asked about that.
And I guess they didn't get the Jerry Springer moment they were looking for.
tim pool
I told them when they asked me, I was like, they know that I like Dave, right?
Like, we get along.
And I was like, all right, whatever.
It was fun, though.
So it should be fun.
Glad to have you here.
We got Libby hanging out.
libby emmons
Yeah, here I am.
I'm hanging out.
I'm Libby Emmons.
I'm with the Postmillennial.
And you actually, I have a new podcast.
You guys can check it out.
It's called The Pod Millennial.
You can go to thepodmillennial.com to see all the episodes and find the links to wherever you listen to podcasts.
And I just interviewed Tim tonight, so that's awesome.
tim pool
Were you impressed by how I can talk non-stop for 40 minutes?
libby emmons
You know, I didn't know that about you, Tim.
I was totally taken off guard.
I was very surprised.
tim pool
Well, it's because like Libby's like, I've got questions.
She clearly wants to ask, but I just wouldn't stop talking.
libby emmons
That's correct.
Yeah.
No, but it was good.
It was actually super fascinating.
brett dasovic
The goal of every interviewer is somebody who will just talk the whole time.
libby emmons
Right.
brett dasovic
You don't have to do any of the work.
libby emmons
Well, there are people who just don't say anything.
And you're like, really?
What is this?
This is a cocktail party?
I have to draw you out.
What's going on?
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
We got Brett hanging out.
unidentified
Yes.
brett dasovic
Guys, what is going on?
Normally, I am doing Pop Culture Crisis Monday through Friday at 3 p.m.
We actually just had episode 1000 on Tuesday, which was a huge deal.
Today I had special guest Vera Dark on the channel.
Colonel Kurtz will be back on tomorrow.
Mary will be back on Monday.
We have a lot of fun over there.
You should go and subscribe to the channel if you have not done so already.
phil labonte
Hello, everybody.
My name is Phil Labonte.
I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band, All That Remains.
I'm an anti-communist and counter-revolutionary.
What's up, Carter?
tim pool
And we got Carter over there pressing the wrong button.
carter banks
I thought you might have a little commentary afterwards to introduce Phil, but I was wrong.
I'm Carter Banks.
You might know me from Music and Trash House, but I am pressing buttons now as well.
And yeah, let's get into it, Tim.
tim pool
Here's a story from the BBC.
Andrew released under investigation after arrest on suspicion of misconduct in public office.
I love how we call him Prince Andrew, but they don't.
That's because he's not a prince anymore.
Look at this picture of him.
libby emmons
Oh, he looks terrified.
phil labonte
How do you like imagine being such a scumbag that you get booted from being a prince?
libby emmons
That's worse than your family disowning you by a guy like King Charles, who cheated on Princess Diana of all people for a very long time and then married that weirdo.
tim pool
Yeah, you know, I just got to stress to anybody who's only listening to audio, you are missing out because his picture of Prince Andrew would, well, it'll probably freak you out, but we had some good descriptions.
There's a little shot in front of me.
libby emmons
We need some good descriptors before the show of that.
Should we should we miss?
tim pool
Of his picture.
libby emmons
Yeah, of what was going on in the picture.
brett dasovic
It says he's home.
tim pool
No, no, we'll save that for the uncensored portion of the show.
robbie bernstein
It looks like a man who had a psychotic break.
Like if you accidentally got unplugged from the Matrix and saw the real reality, and then they had to pull you out of your home and instantly get you to the psych ward, that is the face of.
tim pool
Like they put him back in, like he broke through the veil and saw the truth, but then they pulled him back and he's like, I have seen it all.
carter banks
Like how they get this angle.
libby emmons
I mean, it's like through the front of the cop car.
Okay, you're crazy.
tim pool
We have to explain the news.
So they write, and I love saying this.
Andrew Mountbatten Windsor has been released under investigation following his arrest on suspicion of misconduct in public office.
This we understand, but let's jump to the meat and potatoes here.
It's the first time he's been arrested.
He consistently and strenuously denied any wrongdoing.
Indeed, indeed.
And what is the misconduct?
I'm going to have to jump down because they are really laying it on thick.
So he's always denied wrongdoing in his association with Epstein.
These files get released.
And now we've got this former UK minister Gordon Brown has told the BBC he has submitted a five-page letter to several UK police forces providing new and additional information from the Epstein files.
So let's see.
A former, we got Jufre.
This is just a very, very poorly put together article, I must stress.
From here we go.
In 2010, Andrew appears to have forwarded government reports from visits to Vietnam, Singapore, and China to Epstein.
Files relating to the late financier recently released by the U.S. Department of Justice appear to show.
The documents also appear to show Andrew forwarded information on investment opportunities in gold and uranium in Afghanistan to Epstein.
Now, this is fascinating.
And I know a lot of people are saying, oh, you know, you got a lot of Trump supporters and you got a lot of strangely weird, not Trump supporter, moderate people who are like, the Epstein files are a nothing burger.
It's all exaggerated.
Virginia Jufrey is a liar.
And now they're saying Andrew wasn't even arrested, related anything to the girls.
It was public misconduct.
Here's what I find fascinating.
First, he's facing life in prison over this.
libby emmons
That's a big deal.
tim pool
This is a life in prison penalty.
Misconduct in public office giving this information to Epstein.
The question is, why did he do it?
Well, there's a picture of former Prince Andrew with Virginia Jufre, who I believe she was 17 at the time in that photograph.
libby emmons
Oh, I don't know.
tim pool
I could be wrong, but I believe that's the case.
And the argument for a long time, the conspiracy is that Epstein would bring on underage girls.
The play that Epstein, the conspiracy is this.
He says, hey, I got a private jet.
You want to fly?
I'm going from, you know, California to New York.
And you're like, oh, wow, private jet.
So you're some politician.
You're some corporate boss.
You get in the plane and then you're flying.
When all of a sudden you see this young lady come up and Epstein says she can take care of you.
And then the powerful person says, okay, you know, don't worry, she's 18.
Then after she takes care of him, Epstein goes, she's 16 and I own you.
And if you don't do as I say, I'm going to release the videos of the photos.
Now, I don't know if that's true, but that's one of the theories.
So when you have this picture of Prince Andrew with a 17-year-old girl, these young women reportedly were hired on as masuses, but they were just underage prostitutes.
And then Prince Andrew, it's revealed as arrested for leaking privy information to Epstein.
It does lightly corroborate this claim.
It doesn't mean it's proving it, but it does lend itself to this theory that Epstein was getting access and information from powerful global elites after they had, you know, now it's possible Andrew's just a slime ball and was leaking information to Epstein, his buddy, because he was giving him underage hookers.
phil labonte
I don't know.
tim pool
But either way, Andrew is a scumbag and now he is in deep, deep trouble.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, like I said, I mean, you've got a really bad situation when you get, you know, booted from being the prince.
And that was before.
libby emmons
Yeah, didn't his mom pull his title?
phil labonte
Yeah, I think actually, I do.
I do think it was the queen before she passed away.
But I mean, and that was before all of the allegations or the evidence of him giving state secrets to Epstein, you know?
So, I mean, I would like to see Americans that have engaged in some of the nefarious activity be investigated or see something come of that.
Because as much as, you know, everyone wants to see people that have violated kids, you know, face punishment and face the music.
But like, Andrew's not an American, and there's a lot of Americans that have influence here that are alleged to have done some sort of stuff.
libby emmons
Well, it really does.
The whole Epstein thing really does seem to be taking a toll on the UK.
It took out one of Starmer's top aides, who I think he'd appointed as ambassador to Washington.
It's taken out like some other people in the Labor Party.
And I got to say, I find that kind of funny because here you've had, you know, Jamie Raskin and all of the rest of them howling for months to release these files despite the efforts to release the files.
And then it turns out that it's actually just taking down Democrat allies in the UK.
robbie bernstein
Well, speaking to what Tim was saying about blackmail, this is the second case of someone in the UK getting in trouble for sharing financial secrets.
I think it was the Starmer case that you were talking about, who let Epstein know that there was a big bailout going on before it happened.
libby emmons
Yeah, I think that's right.
robbie bernstein
But I love it because, you know, if other countries are taking this seriously, it plays into the reality of something actually happened here.
And I think that puts more pressure on the United States government to actually investigate it and start bringing some allegations and some lawsuits against these people.
brett dasovic
Depends on how blackpilled you are.
Because if the first person you see that gets arrested for most, by the way, it's not one, it's two technically, if you count Ghelain Maxwell, I suppose that counts as arrest number one.
But in general, if the first person you see, you know, when the whole of the scandal seems to, at least at its face, took place in America or started in America and the first arrests are happening overseas.
It's like just how deep is the rot in the corruption in the U.S. government that it finds its way to the UK before any of it finds its way here.
And I do think one of the problems with all this going on right now is like people are getting blackpilled because you're following the story every day.
It feels like it's kind of re it's like retold to you and you see the horrors or you hear about the horrors of what is going on and every day goes by, you don't see anything happen.
And it's really easy to lose faith in anything when that continues to be your reality each and every day.
tim pool
I don't think that they're arresting Prince Andrew, former Prince Andrew, over nothing, right?
And what that means is what we're hearing is probably just the tip of the iceberg.
Because typically people in this position of power, even a disgraced individual, they protect them.
There are tons of people who have been disgraced, but for some reason, you never get accountability.
And now they're going after him because I fear they, or I should say, I believe there is something much, much worse underneath all of this.
And this is just what they're telling us to avoid the worst of possible reactions.
libby emmons
What do you think the worst stuff is?
tim pool
I think he was didlin kids.
I think that based on what we know about the Epstein thing.
libby emmons
Epstein was or this Andrew?
tim pool
Well, so here's the challenge with the Epstein stuff.
There's a lot of people arguing that what Epstein was doing was with teenage girls, not children.
There are videos and creepy things of underage kids, pre-best kids, in the Epstein files.
So I do believe there is evidence to corroborate that Epstein, in fact, was a diddler.
But there are a lot of people who argue that's not the case.
I think knowing, seeing some of these videos are censored, by the way, but they're appearing on X.
Yeah, I think Epstein was probably doing a lot worse than what they're just claiming.
For Andrew, I'd throw this under, Andrew knew that he was with underage girls.
He was going to the island, engaging in it quite a bit, and they know he was doing it.
When he gave that interview in the BBC and they were like, Virginia Jufrey says that you were dancing together and you were quite sweaty.
And he goes, oh, well, that's not quite strange because I don't sweat.
Or at least I didn't.
And it's like, what?
I have a peculiar medical condition where I don't sweat.
No, I think they're looking at the files coming out now and they're saying, if more comes out, it's going to destroy the royal family.
Arrest him now.
Because the Virginia Jufre stuff was bad enough.
Now we find out he was leaking information to Epstein.
They're probably saying this can't go any further.
If more information comes out or is found, because people haven't even gone through all of the files yet.
If we don't do anything, they're cooked.
So I think the attitude of the royal family and just the UK in general is arrest him now.
When the worst stuff comes out, we can say, see, we arrested him.
We're on top of it.
carter banks
Sometimes they'll like get you on something smaller so they can build their case around something bigger when they know they have it, but they need time.
libby emmons
Like getting Al Capone on tax evasion.
carter banks
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, that's what they couldn't get them on anything else.
libby emmons
Yeah.
robbie bernstein
That's why I actually see this as a giant white pill because I feel like we're educating the general American public to the actual corruption of our government.
And typically speaking, when it comes to these corruption storylines, they aren't that sticky.
They go away.
But I feel like the public's demanding that this is looked into and people are held accountable.
And so the fact that the elites have to pretend like they actually represent us and now the UK is folding and actually arresting Andrew, I think that's starting to, the wheel's starting to turn.
And I actually think that this is a very, in my opinion, a very promising storyline because it's not going away.
phil labonte
Yeah, it's definitely not going away.
And honestly, I think that's largely because of all of the people online that are really just kind of hammering it away.
There are constantly people talking about this.
This doesn't, you know, whether it be on podcasts or just in chat rooms talking on X and stuff, like this is something that actually ignoring it isn't going to make it go away.
It's something that has to be addressed by the administration.
robbie bernstein
Yeah, unless you're such a Donald Trump fan that you feel like innocent CEOs are going down over Democratic hoax.
phil labonte
I mean, fair enough, but like that's a fair criticism.
But the thing is, like, I don't think that that's, I think that the people that are Donald Trump fans that are just like trying to brush it off, I think for the most part, their argument is just, well, Donald Trump isn't actually accused of these things in the Epstein files.
He's all over the Epstein files.
Yes, he was, you know, like he was friends with Epstein at some point or to one point, but like, it's not like there's, you know, really legitimate credible accusations in there that are like, oh, Donald Trump did this recently or what have you, you know?
libby emmons
Well, a lot of it was news articles that had his name in it.
tim pool
Well, it's not just that.
It's their releasing these.
There's files, FBI cold tips from five years after Epstein's dead.
What is the purpose of submitting a tip with no corroboration in 2025 about Donald Trump?
They're wild and outrageous.
And I really do recommend when read them.
Read these claims against Donald Trump because they are the epitome of the absurd.
When Brett Kavanaugh was going through confirmation, these stories started emerging from these accusers that Brett Kavanaugh was involved in parties in college where the men would line up outside of a bedroom where a woman would be held captive during the party.
And these men would take turns forcing that woman while she was trapped in that room.
Okay, I'm being very light with the language in case there's children.
And it was the most shockingly insane thing.
Because if you have 100 people in a frat house and there's a woman trapped screaming as guys take turns lined up outside, everybody would know that was happening.
Look at the lacrosse scandal.
Zoop La Cross game.
Like, come on.
libby emmons
That ended up not being real anyway.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
The claims against Donald Trump in these files are beyond that level.
I don't want to, it's really graphic accusations.
I am not saying that 100% of them are definitively false, but they are so over top absurd.
One of them is that Donald Trump walked around a room full of little girls with a measuring tape.
And I can't, I'll save the description of what was going on for the uncensored portion of the show because this is really graphic stuff.
Corrupted Claims and Lawyer Moments 00:15:00
tim pool
But this is just the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
Donald Trump was not walking out of the measuring tape and little girls and it's just not happening.
I mean, these are, and this is an accusation from like 2025.
So we are in the height of anti-Trumpism and a tip gets called in during an elect, you know, right after Trump gets elected.
And some of these are 2024 during an election cycle.
And it's just like, okay, we get it.
You're putting up billboards.
You're trying to claim that Trump is involved with Epstein.
That being said, there are claims about Trump going back a long time.
And I've got no problem if it sounds reasonable to pursue.
In that capacity, I'll shout out Dan Bongino and Kash Patel when they say some of these things are ridiculous and uncorroborated.
It's not just about Trump.
I've made this point ad nauseum.
Tony Hawk was not on the island, did not get married on the island.
And this is another FBI tip that came in on the phone accusing Tony Hawk of getting married on Epstein Island.
It's just absolutely insane and not real.
So when you hear that stuff, I'm sorry.
I just, we have 10 years now of orange man bad.
It makes it very difficult for me to believe these wild, ridiculous accusations.
robbie bernstein
I think the accusations against Trump trying to implicate his involvement or anything with kids is completely unsubstantiated, is not a valid criticism.
I think criticizing this administration for taking part in covering this up, not wanting to investigate it, and not digging in more and being, you know, not that the other administrations did a terrible job with this too, but he's the most recent administration.
And I don't think they just fumbled on it.
I think they took a look in there and realized, hey, we don't want any part of cracking this door open.
And I think it's fair to criticize the administration, Kash Patel, and Dan Gongino for that.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, I think that it's fair.
Look, anytime you're in government, you're opening yourself up to criticism, right?
I mean, everyone, you know, everyone has some kind of beef with the government to some degree.
So if you're in a position in the government, you're opening yourself up to criticism, and it's perfectly fair.
And as for the administration's handling, it's probably, I mean, it's incredibly obvious that this was the biggest blunder that the Trump administration has done.
Like the handling, whether it be the binders when they came out, all of that stuff, like all like, and a lot of it falls on Pam Bondi, I think, personally.
But Donald Trump definitely has his fair share because of the way that he treated it when he says, when he says things like it's a Democrat hoax, I understand what he meant, as in it was them saying, it was Democrats saying that Donald Trump is in the files and had done inappropriate things in the files.
That's what Trump was talking, or that's what I think Trump was talking about when he said the hoax, that it gets another Democrat hoax, just like the good people on both sides implied that he had said something that they do so many of them.
Yeah, but they do.
So I think that that's what he meant.
tim pool
Sure, sure.
He's not doing anything.
It was horribly mismanaged.
All accounts.
phil labonte
That's one overall point I was making.
tim pool
Let's give a quick shout out to Thomas Massey real quick, because he's not technically correct, but he's technically correct.
The best kind of correct.
He posted this image: number of arrests, Russia collusion hooks, zero, Jancic, zero, Marla Grade, zero.
Biden autopenned, zero.
2020 election, zero.
Epstein pedophile arrests, one.
COVID, zero.
Benghazi zero, doge finding zero.
Ukrainian Petrie Hook zero.
And he says, you're welcome.
So it is a fact.
RoCanna and Thomas Massey's efforts largely are responsible for the arrest of former Prince Andrew.
So there you go.
But let's jump to this next story because this is where it gets real spicy.
We've got this from Mediaite.
unidentified
Lex.
tim pool
Les Wexner gets wild legal advice during House Epstein deposition.
I will effing kill you.
Now, hold on.
It does seem like it may be a joke, but it also seems like it may be a jokey way to literally threaten someone.
So I don't want to say I know for sure.
But we do have the video here, and I'm going to play it for you.
This is Les Wexner giving a deposition, and his lawyer's right here laughing, and you can hear what he whispers.
So we've got to be real quiet, and hopefully you can hear this.
unidentified
It was just regularly done.
Answer the question.
Okay.
tim pool
He said, I will effing kill you if you answer another question with more than five words.
Okay.
Now, it does seem like it could just be a joke.
For those who are not familiar, Les Wexner is a potential co-conspirator in the Epstein case, and his name was redacted in a document of potential co-conspirators.
They argue the FBI argues they don't have evidence to actually take him down.
He's giving his deposition, and he says, I will effing kill you if you answer another question with more than five words.
And again, it may be jokey.
There are a lot of people on X that are trying to make it seem like they're threatening to kill him for talking.
There's one where they're like, Wexner's lawyer just threatened to kill him if he answers questions.
And it's just like, oh, these people are just lying.
Okay.
We could be reasonable about this.
It's a creepy thing to say to somebody.
It might just be a joke.
But considering what's going on in the background, it is possible it was more like a, I'm not really joking.
robbie bernstein
That strikes me as a pure lawyer moment.
unidentified
Yeah.
robbie bernstein
That's sitting down with your lawyer.
You're talking to the cops and they walk in and go, shut up, quit talking.
libby emmons
Correct.
robbie bernstein
With that said, I know that Les Wexner lied in these depositions.
And I know this, and I'll say it.
It's because he said he did not understand why Donald Trump was at the Victoria Secret modeling events because he's not in the fashion industry.
And you're telling me you can't understand why a man wants to go to Victoria's Secret show.
That was a hot ticket.
All right.
phil labonte
We were all.
libby emmons
He's also running beauty pageants.
robbie bernstein
Yeah.
So he's literally in, but I'm just saying the idea of, oh, I have no idea why this man would be here.
You know exactly, you know the brand you run.
You know exactly what this is.
You've got hot chicks up in lingerie.
You're starving them to try and convince other women to not eat and be thin as well.
And we all appreciated that in the 90s.
libby emmons
He's a secret guy.
Yeah.
robbie bernstein
But the idea that you're running a Victoria Secret fashion show and you're trying to pretend you don't know Donald Trump and you don't know why he was at the event you met him at because there's no reason for him to be there.
It's called he's a dude.
libby emmons
Right.
A rich dude.
phil labonte
Yeah.
libby emmons
A rich dude who likes models.
brett dasovic
The point of people saying on X with like complete certainty that this is why he did that is because that's the benefit to gather more clicks for your content, right?
If you say, well, it could be this, but the context might say something else, like we're saying right now, it could be a lawyer movie.
It could just be saying this because you've been answering the questions too fully.
I keep telling you not to.
But if you make it seem like you're actually threatening his life, if you talk at all, that's more salacious.
So you make the more salacious statement because more people will click on it.
It's why I think ad revenue is one of the worst things to happen to X because it disincentivizes giving nuanced takes on anything, at least for the initial post.
You might get into it more once people start debating it, you know, underneath the actual post.
But if you want to get the eyes on it, the best thing you can do is to be as dubious as possible.
libby emmons
Yeah, you're rewarded for making stuff up.
brett dasovic
I hate it.
libby emmons
And the other thing, too, that drives me nuts, just super quick, is the thing where people post videos and they're like, this is shocking.
And then you look closer and it's like literally from six years ago.
unidentified
Yep.
libby emmons
You know, that drives me insane.
robbie bernstein
I feel like if this lawyer handed Wexner one of like those Bush funeral letters, I would go, okay, he was threatened.
tim pool
He slides a picture of Epstein across the table.
unidentified
Do you remember?
phil labonte
I mean, like, look, this is exactly how I would want my lawyer to talk.
You know, I mean, there's not a whole lot.
tim pool
I disagree.
phil labonte
To you, I would want my lawyer to be very clear and concise.
And if he felt like swearing, I'm fine with that.
libby emmons
My lawyer wouldn't have to say a thing because I would keep my mouth shut no matter what.
phil labonte
Fair enough.
tim pool
He shouldn't be speaking.
I know he tried to whisper, but it was miserably done.
He could have just taken a little note, written down shorter answers, talk less, and then just held it and showed it to him and then and folded it.
libby emmons
He knows he can't write I will effing kill you because what Wexner needs are those attorneys from the Tyler Robinson case who make sure that there can't be a camera or a mic or anything even within like five feet, 20 feet, 100 feet of the.
carter banks
But then you have people reading their lips.
libby emmons
Well, but that's why they moved the cameras.
They don't do that now.
robbie bernstein
What did you guys make of the fact that there were no Republicans there for the deposition?
The Republican staffers, Comer sat it out saying he had a dental appointment.
tim pool
Isn't it fascinating that the left has become QAnon?
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Liberals on X, mainstream normie libtypes are posting things like a cabal of satanic pedophiles are running our government.
And it's just like, oh, welcome to the club.
unidentified
Welcome to 20.
libby emmons
Like we've known this for a while now, guys.
brett dasovic
Yeah, this is 15 far earlier.
tim pool
It'd be funny if the whole QAnon thing was fake and it was just a, you know, the right was like, we need to really smear the Democrats to win.
The Democrats are like, well, if you do that, then we're going to do it too.
And they've just created a world in which everyone is adamant that Democrats and Republicans are just in the business of protecting pedos.
libby emmons
Well, Democrats and Republicans who are leaders, you know, I mean, once you get into government, I feel like you get completely corrupted by power.
Who doesn't get corrupted by power?
You know, I mean, that's a huge reason to have term limits because people get corrupted and then they don't have the best interests of the people at heart.
And you have to get them out and get somebody in who actually has some hope and optimism for the country.
phil labonte
I feel like, go ahead.
robbie bernstein
I would love it if the next election cycle is people running with slogans and satanic rituals in D.C. I'd be like, all right, we've made some progress as a country.
phil labonte
I feel like I'm still of the mind that the idea of term limits is a double-edged sword, right?
Like if you've got someone that is in there for a short amount of time, then you end up with the bureaucrats that are installed even with even more power and doing more running of the government.
libby emmons
I get that.
I mean, they're the ones who keep everything sort of stable.
phil labonte
Yeah.
libby emmons
And then they get corrupted as well.
So, I mean, maybe there should be term limits on lots of things.
phil labonte
Maybe we should just get rid of more of the bureaucracy.
libby emmons
Maybe there should be way less government.
unidentified
Yeah.
libby emmons
Less regulation, less government.
brett dasovic
I also don't know if I buy that the left had become conspiracy theorists.
This only stands on its feet for them because of Trump.
Like, they just don't like Trump.
The second, if Trump's name wasn't mentioned, they wouldn't be talking about satanic pedo.
tim pool
Technically, but we saw this when Trump was kind of out of the limelight for a bit in like 23, when Ron DeSantis had become the frontrunner in all the prediction markets.
They immediately started writing articles saying DeSantis is worse than Trump.
If you thought Trump was bad, oh no, DeSantis is coming.
And I got to be honest, like DeSantis is, he's pretty good in Florida, but he was pretty much vanilla yogurt everywhere else.
And they were acting like he was neo-Mecca Hitler.
libby emmons
They said that about Vance every time.
They're like, Vance is worse.
He's worse Nazi than Trump.
They say that kind of stuff.
phil labonte
I mean, look, as of the beginning of next year, they're going to be talking about whoever's running for president because that's when they're going to start, people start announcing, and they're going to just start sliming them all as worse than Donald Trump.
And they'll actually, they'll ease up on Trump for the last two years.
I mean, obviously the House will still be doing the impeachment stuff, but the actual, the rhetoric surrounding Trump.
libby emmons
You think the meat terms are already lost?
phil labonte
I'm behaving as if they are.
I think that I'm of the.
tim pool
Well, it's a districting thing.
libby emmons
Yeah.
phil labonte
Yeah.
I'm of the mind that if the economy is gang is doing gangbusters, the Republicans can win.
robbie bernstein
Well, once this Iran war started, I don't know.
phil labonte
Hold on.
Let me finish my question.
tim pool
We don't know for sure because wartime does improve historically a president's approval rating.
phil labonte
If the Republicans, if the economy is doing gangbusters, the Republicans can win.
If the economy is not doing gangbusters, the Republicans cannot win.
And just because I'm saying the Republicans can, I'm not saying the Republicans will.
I'm not predicting that they will.
It's still going to be dependent on the actual people running.
tim pool
What do you think would happen if Iran, and I'm not trying to, you know, a lot of people are going to be like, stop, don't say it, Tim.
You're going to war.
You're for war.
No, no, no.
But genuine question, like, what would you think would happen if Iran staged a large-scale terror attack on the United States?
robbie bernstein
Oh, that's a much different story.
unidentified
Right.
robbie bernstein
Yeah.
If Iran, I mean, I don't think they are going to nor do they have the capability, but if they did, yeah, I think that would probably get people excited for more military action against Iran, and that would probably help Republicans.
tim pool
Let's say an attack happened that was clearly and definitively Iran on, say, you know, like Times Square or something, and thousands of people.
robbie bernstein
Yeah, that would probably help Trump.
tim pool
But so you know, if that happened, I think everyone could agree, this country would be overwhelmingly in favor of war with Iran.
You'd get 60, 70% being like, yes.
The question is, is that enough for Trump to rally for a midterm victory for Republicans?
robbie bernstein
What, if there was a terror attack on our country?
tim pool
If there was a terror attack where most people agreed or felt that we should go to war, would that give Trump the power to then rally and say, vote Republican, and then they would vote congressional, you know?
libby emmons
I think that would, I mean, I think you'd get pretty close, but I do think you're right about the district situation because New York State eliminated Nicole Mallee Toxis's district, essentially.
robbie bernstein
Totally, yeah.
The only reason it might not is if they blamed Trump for it and said you kicked the beehive when you bombed him.
Right.
unidentified
That's a good point.
libby emmons
Don't you think we're sick of that, though?
Don't you think we're sick of being blamed for when people hurt us and we're like, oh no, you hurt me.
I must be a bad person.
Mommy, please don't beat me again.
phil labonte
You get the reaction to the Venezuela raid, right?
Like that is almost ubiquitously on, you know, a positive thing to most Americans.
They're like, okay, we didn't actually lose any Americans.
We showed how strong we are, blah, blah, blah.
Most Americans are like, that was actually cool.
Like, whether I understand that libertarians don't have that same perspective.
So I get where the criticism would come from.
But most, I mean, libertarians are like 3% of the population or something like that.
Nobody wants to be free.
They want to control other people.
So if Iran turned into some kind of military action, if there is some kind of strikes or even if there is a ground war, if it's not something that turns into a quagmire where Americans are coming home in slew of caskets and stuff, if the United States goes in and essentially loses almost no one, the American people are going to be like, actually, that's kind of cool.
I really, and whether or not, again, the chat's probably going to chew me up for this, but I really do think that most of your normies will be like, actually, that's kind of cool because I think most Americans like winning.
robbie bernstein
I think where Iran might differ from Venezuela is, for one, there's a lot more risk factors on the table, such as how China might react, whether or not there's going to be disruptions in oil trade, whether or not you're going to see Turkey or other people get more aggressive with Israel.
But also, there's a lot of discontent in this country right now for how aggressively this administration is supporting Israel.
Risk Factors on the Table 00:15:02
robbie bernstein
And I don't know that when Venezuela had more of a pitch for America first, even though it was all lunacy, I think a lot of people will see a strike against Iran as being for and in Israel's benefit and not in America's benefit.
And I don't know that even a quick strike, depending on how successful it is, but assuming the best case scenario, I think some people might still say, I don't like that we took this risk and that we did it for another country.
phil labonte
I think that that's something that young people might think, but young people don't vote in the midterms.
tim pool
Yeah, and I think young people are typically anti-Israel to a certain degree.
We've seen this in the Pew Research.
Based on the swings from young people and a little bit from the middle-aged generations, it is around like 54% in opposition to Israel.
But that is a weaker voting bloc than all of the old people.
And they largely support Israel.
I do think in 10 or so years with boomers dying, you're going to see support for Israel basically evaporate.
Not because it's going away, but because it's already gone among younger generations.
When the older generation that supports Israel dies, you have largely just the right wing, we don't care about your country and we don't want to support you.
And the left wing, we hate Israel.
So the right is going to be much more moderate.
Like, whoa, whoa, we don't hate Israel.
We just don't want to be involved.
And the left is going to be like, well, we absolutely hate them.
Hey, we'll compromise.
Cut them off.
libby emmons
There is sort of a thing, though.
You were talking about potentially disrupting oil in Iran.
And I'm not in favor of going into Iran because I'm not really in favor of any foreign conflicts of any kind.
But the thing with Venezuela, where Trump was basically like, okay, your oil is ours now, might mitigate any fallout from an oil disruption from Iran.
And also, to your point, Phil, the Pentagon at this point, like I was on this Pentagon trip yesterday.
We went to Missouri and visited Boeing.
And it's like the second time I've traveled with Pentagon.
And they are so intent on buying all of these kinds of autonomous weapons and things like that.
They're really into it.
So we're sort of at a point where our guys can stay home and play video games with, you know, autonomous weapons and take people out and take out entire nations without anybody batting an eye.
tim pool
It's kind of crazy.
We have breaking news.
Let's jump to this story.
It's a post from Donald Trump.
He says, based on the tremendous interest shown, I will be directing the Secretary of War and other relevant departments and agencies to begin the process of identifying and releasing government files related to alien and extraterrestrial life, unidentified aerial phenomena, and unidentified flying objects, and any and all other information connected to these highly complex but extremely interesting and important matters.
God bless America.
Of course, this comes shortly after Donald Trump has confirmed the existence of aliens.
I say that.
I'm half kidding, but listen.
donald j trump
I would love to have China and Russia.
They've been invited.
Yeah.
unidentified
So we've got a lot of attention.
tim pool
You need both.
donald j trump
You need all persuasions.
No discrimination.
unidentified
Something that got a lot of attention this week.
Barack Obama said that aliens are real.
phil labonte
Have you seen any evidence of non-human visitors to Earth?
donald j trump
Well, he gave classified information.
He's not supposed to be doing that.
unidentified
So aliens are real.
donald j trump
I don't know if they're real or not.
I can tell you he gave classified information.
He's not supposed to be doing that.
He made a big mistake.
He took it out of classified information.
No, I don't have an opinion on it.
I never talk about it.
A lot of people do.
A lot of people believe it.
Do you believe it, Peter?
unidentified
Well, the president can declassify anything that he wants to.
donald j trump
I may get him out of trouble by declassifying.
tim pool
We know illegal aliens, really.
donald j trump
Only illegals.
unidentified
What else?
tim pool
Okay, so hold on.
Trump is asked about Obama saying aliens are real.
And Trump's response is he gave away classified information.
He accidentally confirms the existence of aliens.
Now, apparently, what people are saying is that the actual story that Trump is referring to is that Obama made references to Area 51 that he's not supposed to mention.
That was actually given with classified information.
Or it could be some have spawned as by confirming or denying the presence of aliens at Area 51, he's not supposed to do that.
Some people believe that the myth of aliens at Area 51 was a U.S. PSYOP to terrify our enemies, particularly the Soviets during the Cold War, to make them fear that we may have advanced technology they don't know about.
And it may just be that there are aliens and Obama admitted it.
And Trump is saying he shouldn't have done that.
And that's why Obama walked it back.
brett dasovic
That's the only reason I don't believe it now is because he's confirming it with the tweet, right?
The second he made the mistake and made it seem like an accident, I was like, okay, maybe this is actually real.
tim pool
But the government quasi-admits aliens are real like every couple of years when they need to, you know, I honestly think the probability that they announced the existence of aliens and we actually see aliens is going up a lot.
And I'm not saying it's a great probability at all.
I'm saying it's like, you know, more than people would actually imagine, not impossible.
But the general idea is over the past decade or so, they've been giving out more and more information, having more discussions about it.
It's becoming boring.
When Obama said aliens are real, literally nobody cared.
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
He's like, well, of course they're real.
It's not A51.
And everyone's like, oh, would you look at that?
That's interesting.
The point is, the fear was decades ago, if the government came out and said aliens exist, everybody loses their mind and they freak out.
And the conspiracy theory for a long time was the government would have to trickle out a little information to desensitize the public.
That way, when they do announce, in fact, we have made contact with non-human intelligence, people would go, ah, they finally said it.
And it's boring.
brett dasovic
The news cycle is instant now.
People would be over it in like 10 seconds.
tim pool
Exactly.
brett dasovic
Unless they fought out like an actual alien body isn't going to care.
tim pool
No, And even then they won't care.
Bro, literal gray aliens could walk on the White House lawn and 10 seconds later, people would be like, Did you hear Trump?
He called Rosie O'Donnell fat again.
libby emmons
I don't know.
I wonder about that.
Like, if aliens actually showed up, you don't think we'd unify?
hell no I don't think we'd be like the left would be like are they communists They're the leaders to come together and be like the Federation of Planets.
tim pool
No way.
If aliens showed up first, there's questions about whether or not they have the same degree of technology.
Do they have faster than light travel or a facsimile of faster than light?
Is there actually a federation?
All of these things.
It may just be like we traveled 100 years on a colony ship and came here and now we're going to kill and eat you.
unidentified
Who knows?
robbie bernstein
If aliens actually showed up, I would be the first to die because I would go, this is COVID nonsense.
You're trying to trick me back into my home.
It's a government illusion in the sky.
And I'd be the first to get vaporized.
brett dasovic
The only way this could end up being worse for Trump is if they actually came here because they needed a place to live and we had to deny them entry because they're actual illegal aliens.
And we're like, we don't have any room.
I'm supporting everybody else.
libby emmons
I would be in favor of that.
I'd be like, sorry, fellas, you got to go home.
brett dasovic
Mexico's over there.
That's over there.
tim pool
Section 9.
libby emmons
You don't have to.
Yeah.
tim pool
I don't think that's the movie, right?
brett dasovic
I just see that one by the way.
tim pool
District 9.
robbie bernstein
That was a great movie.
tim pool
District 9.
phil labonte
Great movie.
robbie bernstein
That was a good movie.
tim pool
It was really good.
I thought that it kind of got off the rails when Weakest turned into an alien.
I don't know what that was about or why that was relevant to a story about the refugee aliens, but you know.
phil labonte
Oh, to show them what it was like to be on the other side.
tim pool
Yeah, but for the most part, he's half.
He's like a weird, like, I'll turn it into a bug.
And they're like, so we're going to kill you, I guess.
brett dasovic
So we're going to sell it.
libby emmons
Well, if somebody's turning into a bug.
tim pool
And why did the fuel from the battery turn him into a bug?
libby emmons
Yeah, well, why do you have put on the sunglasses so that you see the aliens and that other movie?
phil labonte
They live?
Different movie.
tim pool
That's a totally different movie.
And that one makes a lot of sense.
libby emmons
Sure.
But all of our sci-fi content is kind of loosely related.
Not all of it.
There's sort of different genres of sci-fi content, but a lot of it builds on similar concepts.
brett dasovic
Makes even less sense in the X-Files that they like, the government constantly tries to stop him, but he works for the government.
His explanation is like, I have friends in Congress.
I'm like, I don't know if anybody in Congress is like powerful enough to stop this from, to stop them from shutting you up.
tim pool
Wishful thinking.
robbie bernstein
Listen, I would love it if they exposed aliens, Bigfoots, Ray Eps.
Give us all the conspiracies.
I would love it if they actually had transparency on this stuff.
I don't think Obama actually said anything.
He was asked on the podcast, do you believe aliens are real?
He basically said, yes, but not because of anything I've seen from the government.
And then he clarified later on, what I mean is because of the mathematical probabilities.
tim pool
No, no, he's walking it back because Trump said that's classified and you're going to go to jail.
robbie bernstein
Well, he walked it back prior to Trump saying that for one.
And for two, Trump says crazy shit.
tim pool
Well, it's because he got the call.
robbie bernstein
Trump says crazy stuff all the time.
He's not that careful with his words.
This is classic funny Donald Trump gotcha.
I don't think he accidentally said, oh, that's classified.
I think he's kind of having fun and prodding at Obama, but that's my reason.
unidentified
No, no, no, no.
tim pool
It's obvious that the aliens have returned and they want control of Israel because that's the original site where they started creating the hybrid humanoids to mine gold for them.
robbie bernstein
I thought they liked the ice wall in Antarctica because there's tunnels there.
brett dasovic
The greys are greys can be Antarctica.
robbie bernstein
You understand?
tim pool
You understand?
robbie bernstein
Okay.
I get to show up today for this education.
tim pool
I'm going to have to educate you.
unidentified
Please.
tim pool
You see, the Anunnaki need gold for their weak atmosphere because they're an elliptical orbit around the sun.
So every 2,500 years, when the planet returns to proximity to Earth and the sun, they come to Earth to mine the gold they need to survive.
So what they did, they hybridized themselves to create a slave race.
The only problem is the first race they created was too smart, understood the nature of reality, and defied their order.
So then they said, we need to make a stupider race.
So they hybridized with monkeys and created humans.
And this was obviously, of course, in where Israel is now.
And they said, we're going to have you mine gold.
And then the first group of hybrids that were created went to the humans and were like, nah, you don't got to listen to them.
You've got to be slaves and told them the truth.
And this created all this chaos.
And so then, you know, the Nibiru is the name of the planet.
It leaves and it heads off for another 2,000 years.
There's about a 500-year period where it's close enough in proximity that they can travel to and from the Earth.
Well, this is when they were on their way out.
And now they've been gone for 2,000 years, but now they're back and they want that land back and they want gold for their atmosphere.
And they've got the next 500 years to seize control of the Earth.
And that's really what's happening.
robbie bernstein
Now, can I ask one question from the student?
unidentified
No.
robbie bernstein
Yes, go ahead.
When they had sex with the monkeys, did they return to their planet with AIDS?
tim pool
They didn't.
They took their DNA and they fused it with some monkeys and get this, some viruses.
unidentified
Ooh.
tim pool
Indeed.
That's why humans have some DNA in their systems that are not found anywhere else.
They believe that it was from the genetic engineering process.
robbie bernstein
So are we all in a capitalist structure because we're just serving these alien creatures and producing gold for them?
tim pool
The theory, the conspiracy theorists believe that life, intelligent life generally understands the nature of existence because it seems odd that you would be intelligent but not know why you're here.
And that humans are actually not a fully intelligent race.
They're a hybrid, semi-intelligent race that are smart enough to be programmed to do any job.
You take a human child and you can make it a specialist, but not smart enough to fully comprehend the nature of reality.
And that is the conspiracy theory about why we like gold.
robbie bernstein
So we got to opt out from making money and become socialists.
That's what I've learned here today.
libby emmons
What creatures would be able to comprehend the nature of reality?
tim pool
The conspiracy theorists believe that all of them.
libby emmons
All of them except us.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Like we were specially engineered to not understand God.
libby emmons
Well, but that's, I mean, that's just sort of like what I love about all these simulation theories is it's like, oh, so God created theory.
Right.
But this is the other one sorry.
tim pool
This is a whack-aloon.
Somebody tried to create a sci-fi movie explaining a whole bunch of random things and just jammed.
Well, they did.
It's just, if you make up a bunch of crazy nonsense, you can make anything sound, you know what I mean?
libby emmons
But I mean, if you look, I mean, if you look at the Old Testament, it's sort of, it discusses essentially how human beings cannot achieve God knowledge and cannot fully understand God.
I mean, that's right.
tim pool
And so the people who make up this theory about the Nibiru and the Anunnaki read the Bible and then said, what can I make up to extrapolate from that statement?
libby emmons
That makes it sort of Jewish.
tim pool
Right, exactly.
So they say, well, the reason why the Bible said it is because it was the word from the aliens who created us telling us we couldn't.
That's the point of the conspiracy theory.
libby emmons
Every time I hear the Anunnaki thing, I think of the Abenaki, which was one of the Algonquin tribes.
tim pool
Oh, probably where they got the name from.
Because they just made it all up.
libby emmons
Yeah.
Really good stuff.
brett dasovic
How long ago is that?
Did they make that up?
libby emmons
The Algonquin?
Yeah.
brett dasovic
No, no, no.
Tim's.
tim pool
Oh, well, actually, you might not notice, but Native Americans, not real.
Not real.
Made up by leftists to make white people feel guilty.
libby emmons
It didn't work.
I don't know.
tim pool
When you see a Native American, Asian.
brett dasovic
Is it possible that Epstein was our envoy to the aliens, and that's why they don't want to laugh?
tim pool
One of the things that I love is how the aliens wanted to rape young women.
brett dasovic
Well, they took him back.
They took Epstein back.
That's why we can't find it.
libby emmons
One of the things I love is how the left spent decades telling us that you're not actually of German, Italian, Irish, Polish heritage.
You're just white.
And now AOC is going, whiteness is just a myth.
You're actually just all these other things, and there is no such thing as white culture.
And it's like, you just spent the last, you know, 75 years explaining to us why everything is every Euro-descended person is homogenized and just plain white and white culture, and that white culture is bad.
And now you're telling us it doesn't even exist.
phil labonte
She's the worst.
libby emmons
Yeah, I watched her Munich stuff so much.
I watched all of it.
Why?
Because I found it fascinating.
I also watched, I like the Munich stuff.
I thought Rubio was good.
tim pool
She's making me want to run for office.
libby emmons
I liked Vance.
Yeah.
The last year.
tim pool
AOC is so bad at just general politics.
It's making me want to just.
libby emmons
She didn't know where Venezuela was.
tim pool
I know.
libby emmons
She said it was below the equator.
And it's like, did you go to school?
I mean, she went to school in Westchester.
Those are like top-rated school districts.
tim pool
Well, you know, she's real dumb.
libby emmons
Yeah, I guess so.
I guess so.
unidentified
Yeah.
libby emmons
She just got pretty jeans, but no smart jeans.
tim pool
You know, you know, one of the things about me is I can't stand watching someone do something wrong.
And so if I see somebody trying to like put a doorknob on and it's taking a long time and they're doing it poorly, I'll be like, just get out of the way.
Let me do it.
Like, I'll be done in a minute.
So when I see her up there.
libby emmons
It's better than like beating them with the doorknob.
tim pool
No, I just, it's just, can we get it done?
Why are you taking so long?
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tim pool
It frustrates me.
libby emmons
Yes.
tim pool
So when I watch AOC do anything, I'm just getting frustrated being like, let me do it.
You're doing it wrong.
libby emmons
Yeah, but she's saying it's incoherent.
She's going to run for Chuck Schumer's seat.
She's going to be in the Senate and then she's going to run for president.
Or one or the other or both.
robbie bernstein
I stand by this.
I've been wrong on a lot of things.
Too stupid to run for president.
I don't think you have to be smart to run for an actual run.
libby emmons
You don't have to.
She doesn't have to.
All she needs is somebody else to do it.
robbie bernstein
She's worse than Kamala Harris.
phil labonte
No.
libby emmons
No, she's better than Tom Malharris.
unidentified
And come on.
phil labonte
She's got less experience, but she's not worse.
libby emmons
And she doesn't have to.
tim pool
Hold on, hold on.
Laugh.
Here's what I will say: the answer she gave at the Munich Security Conference does really knock her down a peg or two in one.
libby emmons
The Taiwan one?
tim pool
Both Taiwan and the rules-based order stuff.
Yes.
You need to be able to sound smart, not be smart.
So Trump is sort of good at this.
Sort of because sometimes it does sound like, what is he even talking about?
But it's the weave.
He can dodge difficult questions and he can simplify things to the point where he gets away with it.
AOC can't.
Okay.
You can't have a stuttering, rambling nonsense.
The rules-based order thing was so much worse than the Taiwan thing.
She was just basically saying a bunch of words strung together, not even making any sense.
You need to, you need to set.
I've had people say to me, they say, Tim, you know, you're really, you really, I watch your videos.
Like, you're a really smart guy.
And I'm like, no, I sound like I'm really smart.
There's a difference.
I'm probably knowledgeable in a lot of things, but understanding that what works in media is sounding intelligent, not being intelligent, and then you'll understand basically how politicians actually win and why their policies tend not to work.
libby emmons
And why all of the news outlets are a disaster.
Indeed.
brett dasovic
That's why it's time to elect Fetterman.
tim pool
So AOC needs to be able to weave, and she cannot.
That's a problem for someone trying to run for a higher office.
libby emmons
So do you think Kamala could weave?
tim pool
Absolutely not.
I think AOC is better than Kamala.
But that Taiwan answer, she could have literally, I mean, I got to be honest, if AOC's response was, you know, that's a very difficult question, and I'm not sure I have a really good answer for you.
Everyone would have, no one would have cared.
They would have been like, okay.
libby emmons
That's the kind of answer JD Vance is comfortable giving.
unidentified
Yeah.
libby emmons
Because he's confident.
tim pool
Yeah, instead she was like, I need to make it sound like I'm smart by saying random things.
libby emmons
That don't, yeah, that I don't even know what words mean.
unidentified
Yeah.
libby emmons
Yeah.
robbie bernstein
I think Trump has a superpower and he's one of one and no one can duplicate it, which is he says nothing.
He's a sales guy and so he just goes, we'll get it done.
And he refuses to give you a reason.
He refuses to give an explanation.
brett dasovic
Well, that's what Kamala Harris did.
She said nothing every time she spoke.
robbie bernstein
No, but Kamala Harris tried to pretend like there was a reason there and then it came out as gobbling gook.
brett dasovic
Yeah, but it was nothing.
That's the point.
No, Trump sells nothing.
robbie bernstein
Trump doesn't actually say anything.
It's, hey, I'm going to end the Ukraine war in one day.
Doesn't tell you how he's going to do it.
Won't validate how he's going to do it.
tim pool
I disagree.
I completely disagree.
When asked about ending the Ukraine war, he says, he goes, we're going to end it on day one, day one.
And that's blovy idiots.
That's arrogant.
He didn't get it done.
But that's okay.
He's a salesman, right?
Do you want to buy a product from the guy who says, I'm not sure it'll work?
Or the guy who says, I guarantee it'll work.
So when Trump is asked, how do you get it done?
He says, listen, listen.
He says, these guys don't want to be fighting.
Putin and Zelensky don't want to be fighting.
We're going to go in there and we're going to stop the fighting.
And that's a very, very, very simple answer.
He's giving you 1%.
Basically, I'm going to tell them to stop fighting.
That's the answer that he's giving you.
There is the smallest of substance there.
Kamala Harris, her answers are like, you know, fighting is like when you're up against someone and they're trying to make you do something and you're not letting them.
And you're fighting and you're just like, oh, she's not even telling us what she's going to do.
She's not giving us the lightest of morsels of, I will tell Putin to stop.
So Trump at least gives you that little bit.
And I think the strategy with Trump, as with many presidents, is to target the lowest common denominator because that's how elections work in this country.
You try and sound smart.
Congratulations.
7% of people are going to vote for you.
You try and sound as simple as possible.
Listen, Putin and Zelensky, they don't want to fight.
So I'm going to tell them stop.
And then unfortunately for this country, the lowest common denominator is going to be like, well, I think it's good that Trump's going to tell them to stop fighting.
And that's all that.
brett dasovic
And that version of that is like, and Ukraine is a country in Europe.
tim pool
And Russia is a bigger country.
brett dasovic
Yeah, exactly.
robbie bernstein
Well, Trump did it in Venezuela too.
We run the country now.
He didn't explain what that meant.
I actually find that where Rubio and Vance get themselves in trouble is they try and fill in some of the details and there aren't details.
tim pool
I just, I get so frustrated with that AOC thing because she could have just said, yes.
Should the U.S., that is the policy of the United States.
So who am I to say otherwise?
Next question.
phil labonte
The policy is to be ambiguous, isn't it?
robbie bernstein
Well, instead.
tim pool
Largely, but we have troops there.
robbie bernstein
Instead, she decided to take a Biden pause.
tim pool
Let's jump to the story from the post-millennial.
Illinois Democrat Lieutenant Governor Juliana Stratton releases F-Trump Senate campaign video vowing to abolish ICE.
unidentified
Okay.
Vote Trump.
Vote Juliana.
Fuck Trump.
Vote Juliana.
Fuck Trump.
phil labonte
Vote Juliana.
juliana stratton
They said it, not me.
I'm Juliana Stratton, and I'm proud to have lived my whole life on the south side of Chicago.
I'm not scared of a wannabe dictator.
I'm running for Senate to stand up to Donald Trump.
I'll abolish ICE and hold Trump accountable for the crimes he's committed.
Just like they said, fuck Trump.
unidentified
Fuck Trump.
Fuck Trump.
tim pool
Vote Juliana.
juliana stratton
That's why I approved this message.
tim pool
So let me just stress this.
J.B. Pritzker, in this video, the degradation of politics, we are so far gone.
And I'm going to say this to all these Democrats.
Trump didn't start it.
Trump was a symptom of it.
Okay.
And where we are now, y'all are just rolling around in it like pigs in, well, since we're already swearing, pigs and shit.
So this is, this, this breaks my heart.
We have, we have much bigger news than anything we've talked about today.
Much, much bigger news.
Much, much bigger news.
We've talked about Epstein, Prince Andrew, former, arrested.
Trump saying aliens are real.
There's a bigger story here.
Chicago Bears are leaving Chicago.
libby emmons
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
And this is quite possibly the worst thing that ever could happen anywhere in all of human history.
And it is because of these pieces of trash Democrats who have lived on the south side of Chicago our whole lives.
So now we have two options for the Chicago Bears.
They can go to Arlington Heights, which is okay, fun, still Illinois, but it's a northwest suburb, or Indiana.
Okay, we can talk about that in a bit.
I just had to bring it up because I'm not even a big football guy.
And I see this woman being like, I have lived here.
F I saw abolished, you know, them and Trump is bad.
And I'm like, you are why everything is falling apart in our state.
And people like me and my friends fled because y'all burned it to the ground with 100 years of Democrat supermajority rule and your crackpot gerrymandered garbage districts.
And now the city is turning to garbage.
And it's miserable.
They won't fix it.
I see this lady.
You know what she may as well have just said?
I put on my they live glasses and she goes, buzzwords, buzzwords that you've heard.
So you think I'm cool and like you vote for me.
Here's another Democrat.
He agrees.
That's all I heard.
phil labonte
It's pretty comical.
The fact that she's like, well, yeah, I'm going to stand up to Trump.
It's like, you're supposed to be, you know, you're campaigning for the upper house, right?
The Senate is supposed to be the one where people kind of aren't really clowns.
Like they move slowly.
They've got longer terms.
You know, it's fine when you hear people in the house doing ridiculous things.
There's 435 of them.
They do stuff to get attention because there's 435 of them.
The upper house is supposed to be the one that the or where the people that have a little more poise, a little more dignity and stuff.
And this is her, her campaign.
This is, this is a clown show.
libby emmons
A couple years ago, there was a story that came out that was basically saying that there was evidence to suggest that people who curse more are smarter.
And did you notice a lot of stupid Democrats start cursing way more all of a sudden as soon as that study came out?
phil labonte
I didn't notice the, I didn't notice that it was incorrelated with that.
robbie bernstein
It'd be fun if she competes with Jasmine Crockett for who can be the sassiest in Congress.
phil labonte
Yeah, you know?
robbie bernstein
It's a fun direction that we're headed in, a complete freak show.
But yeah, I mean, this really does speak to the degradation of politics of there's no campaign promise.
There's nothing.
It's just F that other guy.
That's pretty, it's pretty absurd that anyone would rally behind that.
brett dasovic
And a lot of times the swearing has to do with when they feel threatened.
So I talk a lot about on our show about like, there's something about the average celebrity when ICE comes up, they have to say F ice and they say it with their whole chest because and they say the same thing about AI.
They say F AI because they're so scared of what it's going to do to their industry that all they can muster is to say a swear word alongside it because they don't have an actual coherent argument against it.
And any coherent argument is going to fall in the face because it's not going to work.
The technology is already evolving.
In this case, ICE is already doing what it's doing.
They're not able to stop it.
And so the only thing that they can muster is to swear.
phil labonte
It's just sad.
It's, you know, I mean, I assume that there is a portion of the electorate that is going to appeal to, you know, the Democrats that really hate Trump, of course, and stuff.
But like, you know, she's not just running in Chicago.
She's running to represent Illinois.
And that's a very, like that, that ad is very, very narrow.
It's targeted at a very narrow group of people.
tim pool
You know, I love the Chicago weather and the architecture and parks and all these things.
Growing up there, you know, like I'm talking to my wife about where do we really want to settle down?
Like where we truly want to live.
We're in West Virginia now and we do love it because it's not too dissimilar weather-wise.
But of course, when we think about it, we grew up in Chicago.
We love the summers where you can go swimming and go out and do outdoor activities.
We love the winter where you can play in the snow and there's snow activities.
Not great skiing or anything like that.
The problem is everything in this spattering from Wisconsin to Minneapolis to Chicago is deeply corrupt, evil, human waste running the machine.
And Brett, from our cousins over there in Minnesota, knows exactly what I'm talking about, how corrupt and garbage everything is.
And it pisses me off because I'd love to live there.
brett dasovic
I don't want to move back.
Right.
Me and my wife have talked about moving back to Michigan where she's from, which is still just like we were there.
Remember over the winter, we had to go to a funeral.
It was like negative nine.
And I'm like, no, I'm good.
unidentified
I love it.
brett dasovic
I can get back into it if I'm there for a period of time, but I like when here it gets down to like 20.
You're getting into the 20s.
I'm fine with that.
tim pool
I'm down for Alaska, man.
When we went to Anchorage, amazing.
What a beautiful place.
phil labonte
Everything's so much more difficult in the wintertime.
Doing anything outdoors is way more difficult.
brett dasovic
It's just really skating is actually better in the winter.
carter banks
It's so human hot.
tim pool
But isn't there substantially less crime the colder it gets?
brett dasovic
Well, that's why people were saying that the ice riots were ironic.
The ice riots were going to be less substantial because it was winter and they weren't all out in the summer.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, you know, you can still turn up the political temperature even when it's cold outside.
robbie bernstein
I got to say, Chicago is one of my favorite cities to visit.
I love it.
Great American city.
I don't follow football.
The fact that the bears are leaving Chicago makes me sad.
phil labonte
Yeah.
robbie bernstein
That's like such an American thing.
The Bears are Bears.
tim pool
Yep.
Well, it's people like this lady who have thrown a noose around the neck of our cultures and our tradition and are just strangling it to death.
robbie bernstein
And you know what they should do?
They should start a new town called the Bears and let all the super thing.
Yeah.
And just let them all move there and start a new city that's awesome.
tim pool
Just let's try this one out.
You've got the Chicago Bears, but let's just hear it.
The Hammond Bears.
robbie bernstein
It doesn't work.
libby emmons
Sounds like teddy bears.
It sounds like a German stuffed animal company.
unidentified
It sounds like the Gummy Bears.
robbie bernstein
It sounds like the Haribo gummy bears.
tim pool
Hey, can I copyright or trademark Hammond Bears right now before it happens?
libby emmons
You should definitely get Hammond.
tim pool
Own the phrase.
They have to change it to the Indiana Bears.
brett dasovic
So they are leaving Chicago.
The Bears are leaving Chicago.
Who's getting blamed for this?
Like, are they blaming the politicians?
Because you know what they're going to do.
They're going to say that the billionaires aren't paying enough in taxes to keep the football team in Chicago.
phil labonte
They should absolutely go to Gary.
It's right there.
The Gary Bears.
unidentified
Come at your ears.
libby emmons
Gary, just like another disaster.
Like Chicago is a disaster.
brett dasovic
They pay you to go to the game.
tim pool
I just want to point this out.
HammondBears.com was parked by GoDaddy, and so is Indiana Bears.
libby emmons
Oh, interesting.
tim pool
So I wonder if that's an indication of something.
And guess what?
Arlington Heights Bears?
Nope.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
It's for sale.
Anybody listening to the show right now, you can go and buy ArlingtonHeightsBears.com.
Something tells me that will not be the name they use.
robbie bernstein
And then make it the fruitiest website of all time.
Make it an exclusive place to meet other people of your specific orientation.
libby emmons
Or just sell a bunch of gummy bears.
phil labonte
Yeah, their colors have to be.
robbie bernstein
Now, is this just a negotiation tactic to try and get the city to buy them a new stadium type deal?
tim pool
No, the issue is they should not buy the stadium.
It's that the property taxes are too high.
So it's going to cost them around $250 million a year in property taxes.
And they want the city to give them an exemption.
And the city is a bunch of communists who won't do it.
So Indiana passed a bill saying, No, you're good.
We'll take you.
I think, I think I think they should leave.
I think they should absolutely leave.
libby emmons
I think everybody should leave where they're being overcharged.
You know, I mean, all of the people in New York did this thing with Mamdani where he's trying to extort Albany into paying a whole bunch more money to the city for his promised social programs.
And what he's saying, which, you know, everybody already heard already, but like, what he's saying is if you don't do it, I'm going to raise property taxes almost 10%.
And the thing is, if you look at the way the property taxes are calculated in New York City, there's four tiers.
There's private homes, like one, two, three family homes.
Then there's apartment buildings.
Then there's utilities.
And then there's commercial, right?
Like hotels and office buildings.
Private homeowners are already paying over 19% in property taxes, 19% of the assessed value of their home and property.
So he's talking about raising property taxes on New York City homeowners by another 10%.
That brings them to like almost 30% of their property taxes.
People are going to have to sell their homes and be able to afford the property taxes.
And basically, his goal to eliminate private property in the city will be much faster on the way anyway, because their idea, his whole administration's idea, is to create not just a city full of renters, but a nation full of renters.
And they want them paying their rent to the government.
Parents Complaining About Schools 00:09:21
libby emmons
And if you look at it, Mamdani's had this whole thing where he was like, oh, we're going to let tenants come in and complain about their housing and complain about their landlords, but they're not allowed to complain publicly.
You know who's not going to be able to complain publicly in those hearings?
Residents of New York of the New York City Housing Authority.
That's public housing.
That's projects.
So if you live in the projects and you don't like your housing, you can't go to this like rental thing and start complaining about how the city is a crap landlord.
And the city is the biggest landlord, the city is the biggest landlord in the city, and their housing stinks.
And all the time during the campaign, he was like, oh, we'll change light bulbs in the city housing, you know, because the light bulbs are out.
And he didn't even mention the elevators, which like our open shafts half the time.
He didn't even mention that.
And then he's like, but you know, for you private property owners, we're going to raise your taxes and drive you right out.
And I think all those private homeowners should get the hell out of that city.
phil labonte
How many people that voted for Mamdani do you think have are now regretting their vote?
And that's like, this is like three months in.
libby emmons
I think a lot of them because, you know, he's talking, and if you look at what he wants to spend his money on, meanwhile, Albany just gave him another 1.5 billion like five days ago.
If you look at what he wants to spend the money on, it's pretty much entirely social programs.
It's entirely social programs.
robbie bernstein
I think.
libby emmons
And it's like, that's great and stuff, but you have to, you know, quality of life is what matters in the city.
robbie bernstein
I think all of them, because the way our political system works, is who can lie to the best during the campaigning process, and none of them can pull through on what they're saying.
The thing that I'm shocked people are upset about is that I guess part of his campaign promises was that New York City could keep their homeless.
And I can't believe that that's the pitch that they're mad at him about is that he promised not to clear them out of the parks.
And now because they're freezing to death, he realized he has to, and they're upset at him of you broke your promise to us of letting these people stay in the parks.
phil labonte
Yeah, because it's better to let them die.
libby emmons
He went around in his New York City monogram bomber jacket handing out blankets to these homeless people who then died.
robbie bernstein
I'm sorry that that's funny.
It's just socialism right there.
unidentified
Yeah.
robbie bernstein
Yeah.
phil labonte
It really is.
Yeah, the monogram, they were red and they were like compliments of Mamdani or something.
robbie bernstein
The government couldn't figure out they needed bad.
libby emmons
They weren't electric blankets.
No, they were just your regular well.
phil labonte
And if you're homeless, where are you going to plug it in?
libby emmons
Where are you going to plug it in?
What are you kidding?
New York City, like open up one of the lampposts and just plug stuff in there.
You can plug stuff in all over the place.
phil labonte
Really?
libby emmons
There's plugs.
phil labonte
I didn't know that.
tim pool
You know how they have those kiosks?
I don't know if they still do, like with the internet.
robbie bernstein
Homeless guys are masturbating.
libby emmons
They just charge your phone and stuff.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There were like these digital kiosks they set up where you could just use the internet whenever you wanted.
And then homeless guys were using it to, you know, you know what I'm saying?
They were gooning.
libby emmons
Well, any if human beings create a thing, it's going to be used for porn.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
Essentially, yeah.
tim pool
You know, I got to be honest: if they set up a digital internet kiosk for free use of looking things up, anything you wanted, literally anything, and it was at a ski resort, you would not have a gooning problem.
libby emmons
Not at all.
phil labonte
At a ski resort.
libby emmons
But at a ski resort, you would leave thousands of dollars of equipment just hanging around outside.
Well, because skiers don't steal.
phil labonte
Why?
libby emmons
Because they don't, Tim.
phil labonte
Because they have money.
tim pool
Let's jump to the story from the postmillennial.
Student struck by car, injured during Florida anti-ice walkout.
The student was taken to a local hospital with non-life-threatening injuries.
phil labonte
Stay in school, skids.
tim pool
Did you guys see the video where the mom tries to stop her son from protesting?
He walked out of school and she's like, You get in this car right now.
He's like, No, mom.
And she's like, You gotta do it.
He's like, I could do it.
I'm allowed.
You can't stop me.
And he ignores her.
I'm like, Man, mom, you need the chonkla.
libby emmons
You need the what?
tim pool
Chonkla.
What's the chonkla?
You guys don't know nothing about this?
robbie bernstein
I don't know the chonkla.
tim pool
It's when the Latina mom takes her flip-flop and starts whacking the sun with it.
And then the son's like, Mom, stop, stop, stop.
libby emmons
Oh, that wouldn't have been what happened at my house.
unidentified
Belt?
No.
tim pool
What you do is you get a leather belt, broom, and you get a broom.
You guys think I cannot imagine.
I could not imagine.
That is crazy to me.
When I grew up, if any of the kids in the neighborhood said no, mom, she would be like, what?
libby emmons
And she'd be your mom's awesome, though.
tim pool
I'm just saying, all the kids in my neighborhood, no one would dare say no, mom.
Like, that's just not happening.
I know, but you guys see this.
I'm just like, oh, we're cooked, man.
More importantly, the bigger picture is your schools are letting your children run amok.
And there was another viral video.
The dad walks in.
You guys saw this one where he walks into the school and he's like, why are you having my kids go to protests?
libby emmons
He was like, get them out of here.
tim pool
He said, a kid got hit by a car.
What are you doing?
libby emmons
A kid got hit by a car in Florida today during an anti-yeah, that's oh, that's the story.
We ran that.
I was talking about God.
I even assigned this one.
tim pool
It's been a minute.
It's been one minute.
libby emmons
Sorry.
tim pool
But the dad was like, Give me my kid.
I'm taking him out of your school because you're allowing this.
Guys, you got to homeschool your kids.
I'm not saying it's going to be easy.
I'm not saying everyone can just make it and do it.
But if you're in a burning building and I say, you got to go outside, you got to get out of the building.
You can't be like, but it's cold outside.
I know it's difficult.
I know it's tough.
I know some people have it easier than others, but you've got to get your kids away from this psychotic behavior.
libby emmons
Yeah, no, I agree with that.
I think this is absolutely insane that this is what's going on.
And the thing is, schools have a responsibility.
Once you send your kid on that bus or whatever, drop him off to school, they have a responsibility to keep your kids safe in the schools.
And I was wondering that too.
Like when I was in high school, juniors and seniors could get permission to go off campus during certain times of the day to go get lunch.
But your parents had to sign it.
And one of my friends, he forged his mom's signature.
And then he went off campus with another one of my friends.
And the one of them got his arm broken by like a gang of thugs because in Germantown, Philadelphia.
And they said to my one friend, they were like, Don't touch him.
He's a brother because he was black.
So they didn't beat him up.
They just beat up the white kid.
And then when they came back inside, the whole thing was for my friend whose name I can't, why can't I think of like a fake name?
Let's call him Tom.
Anyway, so Tom comes back in, and everyone's like, Keep quiet.
Don't say that Tom was off campus because he's not allowed to go off campus because his mom will freak out.
And so it became this whole thing where the whole story wasn't about the arm broken.
It was about trying to cover for Tom so he didn't get, you know, whooped by one of these sandals or something.
robbie bernstein
I guess in the modern day, this is a good high school because how else are these kids going to be ready to go protest in college?
unidentified
Yeah, right?
robbie bernstein
You got to get them ready for the college experience.
They're just doing stupid things.
libby emmons
So just setting up camp, not going to class, and harassing Jews.
unidentified
Yeah.
robbie bernstein
You got to get them started early on dumb things.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
Yeah.
Well, I mean, look, this, this is just, like I said earlier, it's another advertisement for like stay in school.
And I mean, inside the building.
libby emmons
Did you see the principal who was like, okay, you guys are all out here.
We're not doing this.
You can go back inside right now or you can get suspended.
Your choice.
What are you going to do?
phil labonte
Did they suspend them all?
libby emmons
Or was he just like, you know, it was a 20-second clip on Twitter.
I have no idea what happened after that.
Very brief.
It auto-scrolled to the next thing.
It's probably AI and it's rotting my brain.
That's why I follow through.
I think we were talking about this story five.
phil labonte
Follow through.
libby emmons
That's what I'm talking about.
phil labonte
They should definitely follow through.
They should suspend them all.
The teachers that organize this stuff should be suspended, actually, because you know that it's like the kids, kids are going to be like, I get to go outside and screw off with my friends and holler and make a big stink about something.
Yeah, I'm going to do that.
Heck yeah.
Like, for the most part, kids don't have like real strong convictions about this kind of stuff.
But if they do, they get them from their teachers.
They get them from their guidance counselors, you know, or possibly from the parents.
But, you know, like teachers organizing this stuff, because you know all the schools of education are completely inundated with leftists.
libby emmons
So it's like, this is like all the graduate schools and stuff.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, all the, no, the schools that teach teachers.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's like they're all leftists and they're teaching the teachers to be leftists.
brett dasovic
The cops have to wear body cams.
The teachers should have to wear body cams too.
libby emmons
Teachers are wearing body cams.
robbie bernstein
Growing up, unless I showed up to school and my teacher wanted to tell me about the situation that was going on in Minnesota, that's not something that would have came up at my dinner table.
It's not something my parents were telling me about.
Maybe it's different nowadays.
No, I'm saying what?
libby emmons
Like your parents didn't talk politics at home?
robbie bernstein
Not really.
Particularly not if like they were kind of horrifying stories, you know, like that's not coming up.
Hey, someone died today because they were out protesting.
unidentified
Really not.
robbie bernstein
That wouldn't have been a conversation at that table.
libby emmons
They're arguing about politics half the night at dinner.
phil labonte
My dad would complain about the government because he would, like, he constantly was dealing with like regulations.
libby emmons
My dad was complaining about mine.
phil labonte
He's like, he's like, yo, the government, blah, You know, it's like, because he's like, he was a business owner.
tim pool
And all kinds of regulations.
My parents didn't really talk about all that much, but I had the internet since I was a little kid, so I was online all the time.
libby emmons
My son comes home from school and he says, Mom, has there been any big news today?
phil labonte
That's when you say, child, no, go do something fun.
Algorithm Farming Tricks 00:15:08
libby emmons
And I say, well, we could run through some of the headlines.
tim pool
You should say.
libby emmons
And then he says, I'm going to go talk to my friends now.
tim pool
No, you got to use this.
You got to say something like, yes, it's terrifying.
There was an attack, and the only way to protect ourselves is you need to do 10 reps of these weights here.
And then we're going to run a couple laps around the house.
libby emmons
Actually, what actually happens is I tell him what the big news stories of the day were.
And I just tell him, they shot this kid.
This lady's dead.
We might be going to a war with Iran.
And then he says, okay, I'm going to go talk to my friends now.
I love the laugh track.
It's great.
phil labonte
Perfect.
libby emmons
That's so 80s.
It's retro.
unidentified
So 80.
tim pool
You know, it's going to be funny when.
libby emmons
AI movies.
There should be AI movies with laugh tracks.
tim pool
I just got to tell everybody, you know, podcasts came about because people were passionate and interested in subjects.
But now that it's becoming ubiquitous, you are going to get laugh track podcasts.
I would not be surprised.
You're going to get out my balls the podcast, where it's going to be the most like idiotic nonsense.
But, you know, have you guys ever watched Big Bang Theory without the laugh track?
libby emmons
NPR morning news show.
phil labonte
Yeah, but I want to hear an NPR morning news show with a laughter.
tim pool
No, Big Bang Theory without the laugh track.
You've heard it, right?
libby emmons
No.
tim pool
It's like Sheldon walked in and goes, Oh, what are you doing?
And then I'm just sitting there being like, What's the laughing for?
Like, nothing was done.
And so they made these edits where they removed the laugh track, and it's really just psychotic people where it's like he'll walk up and be like, a hot dog.
phil labonte
It's bad.
tim pool
Yes, I'm eating a hot.
And you're like, what the is going on?
brett dasovic
I like the ones where they add the scary music into it too because it works just as well.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
We have a, we had, we had uh, Callen sent me Sad Trombone to add to our Twitter.
carter banks
Yeah, you used it yesterday for me.
brett dasovic
And I think it's innate that we're like, we're desperate.
tim pool
No, it was actually after Phil's statement about going on tour.
phil labonte
Yeah, got it.
brett dasovic
I just added like audience, like an audience applause button on our show, too.
tim pool
Just audience applause.
brett dasovic
Yeah, like you start the show.
It's like the show started just like I intro the show with like claptor as if there's like a bunch of people watching us live from in studio, but it's just me.
libby emmons
I know claptor.
unidentified
Clapter.
brett dasovic
Yeah, it's what it's what like stand like late night comedians get.
libby emmons
Yeah.
brett dasovic
It's not laughter.
It's not clapping.
It's clapter.
tim pool
I uh I can only stress this again because I do it every single day, but guys, content is over.
We talked about this on Libby's Pod Millennial podcast.
libby emmons
This is a sneak preview, you guys.
tim pool
Sneak preview.
There are programs that can auto-generate anything.
So if you want to make a YouTube channel, you'll need some capital to get started because the scale does get expensive.
But you're not competing with anybody.
We're not competing.
It's as simple as this.
If I want to make a two-hour podcast, it's going to take me two hours.
It's going to take me other people, production, whatever it might be.
If I want to do a two-hour podcast entirely on my own, which I do for my morning show, it takes me at least two hours.
Now, here's the thing: I got to do research, I got to find articles.
So it actually takes me like five hours to make a two-hour podcast.
There are programs already online you can sign up for to varying degrees of expense, some relatively cheap.
And you type in, you click a button and it'll show you all the top YouTube videos for the day.
You will then say, copy.
It'll then prompt you to what title do you want?
It'll say, here's titles based on this video.
You then copy the title.
It'll then auto-generate a script, auto-generate the voiceover, auto-generate all the visuals, auto-animate them, and then create a backing track.
And it renders it all for you.
And then all you have to do is click upload, and you can produce a two-hour podcast in literally with 15 minutes of labor, rendering time, maybe an hour.
So you do the 15 minutes of work, you get up, you leave, you go play video games, you come back, it's done, you upload it, boom.
And I would argue that a good portion of YouTube right now is all AI.
And the only reason you, dear viewer, don't know is because you are in YouTube's algorithmic bubble.
That is, as a long-standing YouTube viewer, you are seeing things you're used to seeing, but newer viewers are being fed all AI slop because it's being mass produced.
The other thing to point out is Gen Z doesn't actually make content anymore.
They make their algorithm farming.
So an example of this is they don't actually need to say anything in a TikTok video.
So the example that I gave on the Pod Millennial was: you'll see a young woman, you'll swipe, and she'll go, You will never believe what just happened to me at Wendy's.
I can't even believe it happened.
So, right away, she's shocked you without saying much.
So, you're waiting.
She's got a big piece of lint right here on the top of her head.
And what happens is the people sit there and they see it.
She then starts saying, You're never going to believe this.
The story is totally mundane and pointless.
So now you've got at least 10 seconds.
For YouTube, it's 30.
But the lint results in them commenting.
Everyone's spam blasting.
She gets 50,000 comments.
Now the TikTok algorithm or Instagram or YouTube says, Wow, this must be a good video.
That's the content Gen Z is making right now.
They're spam blasting AI slop because they don't got to do any work and it requires no talent and it's making them money.
Or they're doing algorithm farming where they make fake videos with engagement tricks to trick you into liking.
There's the really obvious stuff where it's like, I'm going to do this thing.
Click the like button and then you'll see.
And then stupid people go, oh, and they click the like button.
Or they say, double tap the screen right now and you'll see the reveal.
And that makes you like the video.
So they're engagement baiting.
But the algorithm farming is hilarious.
They'll misspell a word on purpose.
The comment trick, the comment baiting is really, really interesting.
Doing something like wear a button-up shirt, but have one button unbuttoned.
And then what happens is people watch the full video because the video is rolling, but they comment and they're typing, you need to learn how to button your shirt.
What's wrong with you?
And then you get 10x comments and the algorithm promotes you and makes you famous.
brett dasovic
That's like that happens every time.
Sometimes we'll have like a misspelled word.
Like the worst today was like when it's not even like a bad one where like clearly you just hit the wrong button.
It was like journalist, but the end wasn't there.
And it's like, that's my nightmare that somebody's like, oh, you freaking idiot.
Why don't you know how to spell these words?
tim pool
Gen Z has started misspelling words intentionally.
libby emmons
Yeah, but they didn't know how to spell them in the first place because they were not educated.
tim pool
Well, sure, but the reality is they're intentionally misspelling words to bait people because they know that other people will see the misspelled word and then comment.
And it doesn't matter what the comment is.
YouTube just says they're getting a lot of comments and a lot of likes.
Yeah.
libby emmons
And also, there's no human intervention at any point.
tim pool
There's another trick that you've all seen.
And that's where a video will start and it'll be like, this is the craziest roller coaster ever done, like ever built.
And then they'll say, it was built in 1981 and it goes up 100.
And then at the end of the video, it'll say something like, and then the drop is 85 miles an hour.
And that's why.
brett dasovic
And it starts over.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
They do that because if they can trick you to watch even two seconds again, then the algorithm is going to boost the video.
So I instantly block anyone that does that.
Any video that loops, I instantly block the account.
But it doesn't matter.
So blocking does degrade them algorithmically.
But this is basically what Gen Z content is going to be.
AI generated random nonsense.
There's going to be a bunch of history and news videos that are wrong because there's no fact checking.
libby emmons
Yeah, nobody looks at what's actually real because they just trust AI to get it right.
And AI gets things wrong.
tim pool
No, they don't care.
brett dasovic
Not even later.
tim pool
They don't care if it's right.
libby emmons
So they don't trust anything.
Like we looked up, so when Usha Vance announced that she was pregnant, we were like, oh, I wonder how many second ladies have been pregnant while their husbands were in office.
And we looked it up.
And AI, like Google AI, told us that she was the very first one.
And that was a lie.
tim pool
Yep.
libby emmons
She was actually the vice president of Ulysses S. Grant's wife.
tim pool
It's not about whether it's right or wrong.
These guys are literally going on.
There's a whole bunch of AI websites that create these studios and these toolkits.
So there's the simple ones that we've discussed, like there's the ones everyone knows, you know, Claude, there's Gemini.
But there's derivative ones that use APIs to create one-stop shops to produce everything rapidly.
Gen Z doesn't even know what the video is about.
They don't care.
They will just, you click trending and it'll show you all the top trending videos.
And then you just say, okay, Batman's trending.
And then they go in and they say, write a script about Batman.
What can we do?
Batman's most difficult villain.
And then it will just AI generate a script.
It'll be a 20, 30 minute long video, maybe 10, whatever you want it to be.
It'll make all the visuals and then just, it renders it for you.
Takes you 10, 15 minutes of doing work.
The estimates that we've seen reported are that some of these people who are making close to a million bucks will work for about two hours a day.
And they don't actually know any of this stuff.
They don't care.
What's really interesting is that the Claude Bot website was hiring humans.
So what was happening was someone would make an AI agent and then say, I want this task done.
The AI agent would then say, this task is best suited for a human and then start making requests of humans to do the job.
Yeah.
Crazy.
And then now there's a website where humans can apply for jobs given to them by AI.
Yep.
And they just put their hourly rate.
They say what they can do.
And the AI is like, I need a human to do this.
Now, I predicted this.
Remember when I said the future is going to be, you're going to have an app, and it's going to be called like Job Hunt or something.
And it's going to be like, you're going to say, accept the job.
And it's going to say, find this man and accept this object.
And I'm going to be like, okay, it's a picture of Brett.
I walk down the street.
Sure enough, there's Brett.
And he's holding this.
And he walks up to me and he goes, I hand this to you.
Okay, we're good.
Brett hands it to me because his job was find me, give it to me.
Then I take it and I go, great.
Then my app says, now bring this app, bring this object to this man.
We have no idea why we're doing it, what we're doing, but the AI knows it's building a machine.
We just have nothing.
I don't care.
I get 50 bucks.
That's where we're going.
That's going to be the future of jobs.
robbie bernstein
You get to do GTA missions in the future.
phil labonte
Essentially, yeah.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
You're lucky if it's a GTA mission.
libby emmons
You get your 50 bucks and then you go to the weed store.
tim pool
You'll literally get a job.
It's going to say, like, go walk to third and Lexington and then wave your arms up and down and then leave.
And you're going to be like, okay, I guess why?
And then there's going to be someone else that's going to be like, when you see the man wave his arms, that's when you press the button.
robbie bernstein
It's like, we're all in a spy movie.
We don't even know it.
brett dasovic
It's the worst part.
It would be cool if you actually knew you were in the spy movie.
robbie bernstein
There's something hilariously tragic when I think about the hundreds of hours I've put into stuff that was not very well consumed.
And then you just hear AI slop is crushing it.
I don't know.
There's something like funny in a very pathetic way to think about the amount of hours going into stuff that no one looks at.
phil labonte
Well, the thing is, if it's on YouTube and people are getting paid, then people are watching it.
You know, like if you're making money, if you're making YouTube videos that people are watching, the ones that people aren't watching are the AI ones that are like stuff for sleep.
So like science for sleep, which I've actually listened to a bunch of those.
You just go and get some topic about physics or about space or whatever, write up a big long, go to ChatGPT and have it write a big long script.
Take that script, you plug it into Mid Journey or whatever, and it makes the video for you.
And then you take the video and you upload it.
And, you know, some of them have thousands.
robbie bernstein
Maybe I'll create a Spotify channel, AI background nonsense to get me paid.
carter banks
I will say I've seen some videos that are actually doing the opposite, where there'll be like human-read stories for four hours or like human-read history of this, this, and this.
And sometimes I'll listen to those for like sleep.
They might be using AI to write the script.
tim pool
Sleep videos for sleep are massive.
It's free money.
phil labonte
Yep.
tim pool
You AI generate a calm, soothing British voice that explains something interesting to you.
carter banks
That's exactly how he reads it too.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yep.
tim pool
And that's going to program your brain while you sleep and you'll become a functional retard.
robbie bernstein
Or play British man.
phil labonte
Yeah.
robbie bernstein
Everyone's probably.
phil labonte
In the future, everyone's going to be David Attenborough.
tim pool
You know what I'm going to do?
You know what?
I got an idea.
I know how we can break this machine and I'm going to need all of your help.
We need to create like five hour long videos where it's like, you know, peaceful something to sleep to.
It's like peaceful history lessons or math or something.
But then at like an hour mark, the person just starts saying really graphic, disgusting things.
libby emmons
Oh my goodness.
Just to like get in your head while you're sleeping.
tim pool
You're sleeping and he's like, the things I'm going to do to you, you're not even awake now, are you?
And then people start having nightmares.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
And then they stop.
They're like, we need to stop.
This is freaking me out.
I'm waking up.
I'm sweating.
I don't even know why.
What are you listening to?
That's the key.
robbie bernstein
Scare people off.
tim pool
Actually, hey, this is a really good idea.
Not like that, but it's like you make a two-hour long, you know, something to sleep to, and it starts really nice where it's like story, fairy tales to fall asleep to.
But as it slowly goes on, things gradually just get darker and more, more like the story gets more horror and discordant.
phil labonte
Well, yeah, then they have a nightmare and it wakes them up and they have to put on another video.
That's a gold mine.
It's a gold mine.
robbie bernstein
Pays for itself.
phil labonte
That's right.
libby emmons
I literally just watched Star Trek if I can't sleep.
tim pool
What I've been told is that Lex Fridman, a lot of people say they fall asleep to his show, which massively boosts them in the algorithm because then they end up watching the full podcast.
And for those industry people have said this, they said that it's a very calm and relaxing show to listen to where they ask questions very lightly.
And so people turn it on and just pass out.
And as far as YouTube's concerned, that works.
You know, it's funny though, YouTube has been completely derelict in their duties because there are people buying ads on videos for sleep.
And that's how they're making money.
And that is a, that's fraud.
That's a scam in my opinion.
libby emmons
Why?
tim pool
Because people are asleep.
They're not getting an ad.
So if I buy an ad on YouTube for pool water and YouTube's putting it on videos that are designed for people sleeping, I'm spending money on nothing.
libby emmons
Yeah, that's not reasonable.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
That's completely.
robbie bernstein
Maybe they wake up in the morning and want to buy a pool.
tim pool
Either way, if I run an ad, I expect someone will try to listen or close the ad.
But if they're sleeping, you're stealing my money.
And I think that's, that's interesting because I wonder how you solve for that.
Ads in Sleep Mode 00:04:53
tim pool
I got to be honest.
There's millions of dollars being pumped into videos for people who are sleeping.
Literally, there's a ton of videos for sleep and people are making money on them, which means ads are playing.
That means the advertiser are being ripped off by YouTube.
And what's YouTube's excuse?
Back in the day, back in like 2018, when the apocalypse happened, YouTube was like, we didn't know our ads were running on graphic content.
So they created the demonetization system.
Well, now what happens if you're an advertiser and your ads are running on videos for people sleeping?
Again, you're just burning your money.
That's messed up.
brett dasovic
I can't believe you would even want to watch a video about, you know, if you're trying to watch a video about sleeping and then you know that there's going to be an ad coming, why would you even click on that video?
tim pool
Because you're asleep.
brett dasovic
Yeah, but you're not going to like, do you first that quickly?
tim pool
The first 10.
Most of these people do.
Yeah, I mean, most people fall asleep within a few minutes.
brett dasovic
Well, then why would you lay down?
It's a sleep playlist.
tim pool
It's white noise.
brett dasovic
Okay.
tim pool
It's soothing.
You turn on a show and then you just, you pass out.
A lot of people grip with the TV on in the background.
brett dasovic
Yeah, but I'm guessing that the audio isn't equalized, right?
Like the sleep playlist is going to be playing at a different frequency or at a different volume.
tim pool
Bro, you're asleep.
Most of these people are not differentiating between the ad or the show.
brett dasovic
And I'm saying the last thing I want to do is if I'm like on the verge of falling asleep and then some ad just like pops up.
libby emmons
That would be really loud.
tim pool
And I'm sure that happens, but it's so rare it doesn't matter because these channels work.
They're making tons of money.
brett dasovic
Who are these people falling asleep that quickly?
libby emmons
Most people fall asleep.
brett dasovic
Not too bad.
Like I'm a bit overexaggerated, but I go to bed super late to begin with.
Like I go to bed at like two or three.
So by the time I fall asleep, it's pretty quickly once I lay my head down.
But if I had to go to bed earlier because I had to be up at a specific time, it's a little bit different.
tim pool
It's actually really quickly, I'm pretty sure.
The average is 10 to 20 minutes.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
brett dasovic
But you're getting that ad.
You've got to be getting that first ad before 20 minutes or before.
phil labonte
I think the fastest you can fall asleep is like seven minutes.
tim pool
I can go to sleep whenever I want.
I get on a plane.
I sit down.
Like I flick a switch.
libby emmons
Also, I fall asleep on planes.
I fall asleep in any form of conveyance.
tim pool
Yes.
You put me in a car.
This is why I don't like driving.
If I sit down in a car, as soon as the door closes, I'm asleep.
I wake up when I'm there.
It's like fast travel.
robbie bernstein
That's a superpower.
Yeah.
phil labonte
It's a superpower.
tim pool
I get on a plane.
Doesn't matter.
I will sleep until the plane, I'll just wake up when I'm landing.
My brain's just like, all right, we're not needed for the next three hours.
Turn it off.
robbie bernstein
You start doing live shows and going on tour.
I mean, that's a superpower for having to hit the road.
tim pool
Sleeping?
phil labonte
Yeah.
robbie bernstein
Just waking up in your gig.
You're just there.
Oh, my God.
unidentified
Yeah.
robbie bernstein
Gig is over and you got to go to bed because you got an early call time.
They'll tell you that's a superpower.
phil labonte
When I was younger, it used to be a little bit more difficult now.
Like nowadays, if I go on tour, we get off stage and I can be asleep by midnight without a problem.
And then the bus doesn't usually leave until about two.
So then it's driving, you know, five to seven hours or whatever.
So as long as the bus is moving, I'm usually still asleep.
libby emmons
Do you wake up when the bus starts?
phil labonte
No, but when the bus stops, I do.
carter banks
Yeah, I would feel like the moving would be comfortable.
phil labonte
Awesome.
Yeah.
It's awesome.
Like the bunks, it's your own little apartment or whatever, and you've got everything set up the way you want it to, you know, want it to be or whatever.
Climb in there and watch videos on your phone for 10 minutes or whatever, and you're out.
And then it's dark all the time.
robbie bernstein
I'm a cartoonishly light sleeper.
If I'm like a, if I'm asleep at a hotel and there's a noise in the hallway, I hop out of bed like, who's trying to kill me?
phil labonte
Yeah, when you're on a bus, like if you can, if you, if you can fall asleep on a bus, you're used to the motion and stuff like that.
So usually, you know, the stopping is what wakes people up.
So that's, that's why you usually want your driver to get, like, get fuel in the morning, not get fuel at night.
robbie bernstein
Take that break.
phil labonte
So that way they don't stop because you stop and like people start sticking their hat out at their curtains.
They're like, what's going on right now?
robbie bernstein
I did a gig in Key West once and they didn't tell me that there was a military base there and that they had like military jets.
unidentified
Oh.
robbie bernstein
And that's nice.
I woke up in the morning.
I thought I was listening to a missile and I hopped out of bed and screamed, we're being invaded.
It gets worse.
I was like looking for a weapon.
I picked up the lamp and then I remembered, I'm not a soldier.
What am I going to do?
libby emmons
What are you going to do with a lamp?
And then shoot anything.
robbie bernstein
Yeah, I walked out of my Airbnb for the comedy club at seven in the morning and locked myself out.
And that might have been one of my single most pathetic moments on the road.
phil labonte
That's the worst.
Getting locked out of anything when you're on the road.
Everything that you have is inside and you're just like, oh, you know, there's no one really you can call or whatever.
robbie bernstein
Go to the bathroom in the park like a homeless man.
tim pool
We got to pull up this tweet right here from New York Prepper.
Locked Out in Nashville 00:15:10
tim pool
U.S. presidential doomsday plane rushing back to DC at 700 miles per hour from, how do you pronounce that?
Dyes?
phil labonte
Dias.
tim pool
Air Force Base.
And according to this flight radar map, it is indeed going 695 miles an hour, which apparently is very, very fast.
That doesn't mean much of anything, though.
Grock says that, well, you know, it does routine flights like this, although that is pretty fast.
I think the reason people are concerned is that this is the doomsday plane, which is like it's for in the event of like nuclear disasters.
libby emmons
Is that Fort Dias?
robbie bernstein
I think they shouldn't have talked about this aliens.
phil labonte
Yeah, right.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
You know, the speed of sound is 767 miles an hour.
I don't know if what, you know, what plane it is.
What is it?
747.
tim pool
That's fast.
phil labonte
That's fast.
libby emmons
Well, Hegseth was in Nashville and Fort Campbell today, so I don't think it was him.
phil labonte
No, look at this.
tim pool
It does appear to be going straight towards Nashville.
What time was this?
libby emmons
It might have had to pick him up or something.
But yeah, he was in Nashville, Tennessee to deliver remarks at the National Religious Broadcasters Freedom Celebration.
And he was also in Nashville.
And then he went to Fort Campbell.
Oh, on Friday, he's going to Fort Campbell.
So I'm not sure if they're heading back because they've been doing so many of these Arsenal of Freedom trips.
And of course, I'm sure that they're talking, they're referencing like the World War II Arsenal of Freedom and not Star Trek TNG season one, episode 21, the Arsenal of Freedom.
But yeah, they do all these trips and they're like, it's like a half hour.
So for press, they tell you show up at Andrews at a certain time and then you take off and then you get back that night.
It's kind of crazy.
That was yesterday.
I went to St. Louis and I was excited about it because I'd never been to Missouri.
So I got to check it off on my map.
phil labonte
Yeah.
I've been in every state.
So.
tim pool
You know, it'd be the greatest thing in the world if tomorrow I woke up and it was just like my phone's got 8,000 notifications.
And then like, I don't really, I wake up and I look and I'm like, what's going on?
And then like I go in the living room and the news is on and my wife's sitting there and it's just like Trump talking to an alien.
I just be like, I am not going to work today.
unidentified
No, you're not.
tim pool
Actually, no, I'd be like, I got to go live.
And I'd just like run over in my shorts.
phil labonte
You're actually more likely to wake up and find out that we're at war with Iran, honestly.
tim pool
Well, I'm actually really excited for that.
Think about all the footage that is going to drive ratings and make the media rich.
So, you know, if it bleeds, it leads, baby.
phil labonte
Yeah, you know, the Iraq, or not, they, well, yeah, the second Iraq war and Afghanistan basically were, you know, you have so many videos of that.
And I imagine nowadays it would be that times 10.
tim pool
Yeah, actually, we're, our sales team is already calculating and factoring in this to our sales.
And we have a tier pricing now for our sponsors.
An ad read on this show will be a $5,000 in the event that no war happens.
If the war does break out, it's going to go up $7,000.
But if we get videos of dead civilians, $10,000.
Because that's really going to drive the rating.
So you got to pay a premium.
So, you know, everyone in cable TV news is sitting there just begging and begging that Trump goes to war with Iran.
brett dasovic
How much is the ad if the aliens are real?
And he's actually standing there with an ad and you're talking about it.
tim pool
I feel like if they actually confirmed aliens were real, we'd have substantially, we'd have much more, we'd have more substantial things to worry about than whether or not we're selling ads and the nature of our reality would shift dradically.
libby emmons
Or everything would go on exactly that.
tim pool
50% more?
libby emmons
No good.
phil labonte
You know, I think that if like you can have evidence and whatnot, and that's one thing, but I think if there was actually like communication with an alien species that could teach us how they have like, you know, managed to travel from a different star system, whatever.
That's the thing that I'm interested in.
It's like, if there are aliens here, how did they get here?
Or if they're from another star system, right?
tim pool
They're coming up to Moral Land in D.C.
And they're going to be like, take us to your leader.
phil labonte
And they're going to go to Trump.
tim pool
And then Trump's going to come out and he's going to be like, listen, I'm here to meet you.
And they're going to be like, who is this?
We said your leader.
And they're going to hold a picture of Joe Rogan.
carter banks
Or Trump wasn't.
tim pool
We have been watching your media.
We know who it is that you follow.
And Trump's going to be like, wait a minute.
phil labonte
Joe Rogan's going to come out in like a t-shirt smoking a joint, right?
tim pool
He's going to be like, yeah, yeah, he's going to be like, take us to your leader.
And then Trump's going to walk out.
No, no, he's going to come out of the UFO smoking the joint with them.
And he's going to be like, they picked me up, asked me for advice.
I said, maybe we should go talk to Trump.
They're going to be like, well, we've been monitoring your communications.
He seemed like the most reasonable guy to talk to for now.
phil labonte
I gave them DMT.
tim pool
I was just going to say the aliens are all true.
libby emmons
We already came back from our ayahuasca trip.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
The UFO crashes into the Rose Garden.
And then they get out and they're all just like on drugs.
libby emmons
And Trump's like, who cracked my rose garden?
Who cracked the cement?
You're going to pay.
phil labonte
Yeah, I imagine.
I can imagine them all just like staggering around, just like their big black eyes.
Actually, they have tiny little white pupils that you can't see.
And they're huge.
tim pool
Was it like the plot of E.T. that immigration services were trying to capture him?
Was that what E.T. was?
phil labonte
I don't think it was.
tim pool
It should have been.
libby emmons
I mean, it should have been.
phil labonte
If they remade it today, it would be.
tim pool
Can someone use C-Dance 2.0 to make that ice-detaining E.T.?
brett dasovic
Send them back.
Send him back.
tim pool
No, it's just, I want to see a video of an ice guy pinning E.T. on the ground and cuffing him, being like, stop resisting.
phil labonte
He wanted to go lure him with Reese.
The whole movie was about.
He wanted to get out of here.
unidentified
He was trying to get him.
brett dasovic
He almost hits him with a bike and they shoot him.
tim pool
E.T. is in a car and then they try to pull him over and then he speeds off and hits a lady.
phil labonte
The modern ET is his phone.
The app doesn't work on his phone.
The self-deport app.
He wants his $2,600.
So he goes to Washington and is banging on the White House.
Like, I want my $2,600 and I'll get out of here.
tim pool
Man, we got so many alien parodies we can do.
libby emmons
Yeah.
phil labonte
Mars attacks.
libby emmons
A lot of them.
phil labonte
We come in peace.
We come in peace.
robbie bernstein
That was a fun movie.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
phil labonte
That's smoking.
It was great.
They're just like zapping everybody.
We come in peace.
tim pool
It was great.
phil labonte
It was great.
tim pool
Ensemble cast.
Everybody dying.
phil labonte
Yep.
unidentified
That's what I'm talking about.
phil labonte
That's what I want to.
If I'm in an alien movie, I definitely want to be one of the people that gets taken out by the aliens.
tim pool
You don't want to have your head surgically grafted to a dog's body?
phil labonte
Well, I mean, like your own ass.
Now that you mention it, no.
But yeah, I mean, look, if you're going to be in an alien movie, it's got to be like, you know, take me out in a fun way, right?
No?
unidentified
Yeah.
libby emmons
You wouldn't want to be in one of the serious alien movies like Gattaca or something.
phil labonte
No, I wouldn't.
robbie bernstein
I'd rather be evaporated immediately.
tim pool
What did you say?
libby emmons
One of the sort of serious movies.
tim pool
Who movie did you drew?
libby emmons
Space movies.
I meant to say space movies, not like Gattaca.
tim pool
Gatta's not a space movie.
libby emmons
No, it's sort of a space movie.
It's like a future sci-fi-ish movie.
tim pool
Yeah, but it's like not aliens.
libby emmons
No, I misspoke.
tim pool
I was like, what?
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
Gattaca is where, was it Ethan Hawk?
Yeah.
He's like, I can't fly because I'm not a genetically engineered human.
libby emmons
Yeah, so he steals the identity of some guy that got paralyzed who is genetically engineered.
He ends up on the space mission anyway, but he has to kill people.
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
You know what I like?
I like Minority Report.
robbie bernstein
That was a good movie.
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, I like that one.
brett dasovic
See, if Independence Day was real, then the president wouldn't know about the aliens anyways because he didn't know about the aliens in that movie.
libby emmons
And he didn't know about it in Men in Black.
They get away with it for like, what, four movies or something?
brett dasovic
A lot of it.
robbie bernstein
That was great seeing, sir.
It's called Plausible Deniability.
tim pool
Yeah.
robbie bernstein
Yeah.
I remember that from when I was in like eighth grade and that came out.
tim pool
How come they can't make good movies anymore?
phil labonte
Because there are too many women writers in Washington or in Hollywood.
Sorry, Libby.
tim pool
Yeah, that's probably true.
libby emmons
I don't think that's the reason.
tim pool
The guys are like, the guy should have to crawl through broken glass to save the puppy.
And the women are like, oh, but that would hurt.
Let's just have him hug the puppy.
brett dasovic
We've got Street Fighter coming out this year.
There is hope.
tim pool
Oh, I don't know, man.
phil labonte
Who plays Guy Ellen?
brett dasovic
Is that the one that Cody Rhodes flues?
phil labonte
I don't know.
Just the guy with the blonde hair, the military guy.
tim pool
Yeah.
What was the last good movie?
phil labonte
The last good movie.
brett dasovic
I went and saw Shelter the other week.
It was good.
It's a Jason Statham movie.
unidentified
Every Jason.
tim pool
Oh, does he go around just beating people up?
brett dasovic
Oh, he kills a bunch of bad guys.
tim pool
No, I was upset.
brett dasovic
Like, at first theaters.
The whole point was that, yeah, yeah, it's in theaters.
At first, it thought the movie was about him fighting the weather because it was called Shelter and it was like all in inclement weather.
phil labonte
I'm like, oh, yes, he's going to just shoot nuclear missiles at Hurricane.
brett dasovic
No, it's every Jason Statham movie you've ever seen.
It's awesome.
tim pool
I am going to make when See Dance 3 comes out the most insane Jason Statham movies.
I'm like, give me any reason to justify him going around beating people up.
It's going to happen.
brett dasovic
He's making a movie right now called Jason Statham Stole My Bike.
unidentified
What?
libby emmons
That sounds awesome.
brett dasovic
He plays himself.
tim pool
I want to see a movie where he orders a pizza, but it comes and the cheese is slightly shifted to the side because the delivery driver put it on the back seat and when he turned, the cheese shifted.
So then he puts it down and opens it and he's like, what is this?
So then he goes and just wipes out the entire pizza chain franchise.
phil labonte
All of them.
tim pool
It's like goes just one by one and then he makes his way to corporate.
But it's got to be justified.
Like when he goes back, he's nice.
But he's honorable because he's an honorable guy.
And he's like, I just want my cheese pizza.
You ruined it.
You make me a new one.
And then the guy's like a snooty guy.
Be like, I'm not giving you a pizza.
You get what you get.
So he's like, and then he fights him.
Then the manager comes out and he's like, you don't get a pizza from us.
And then he's got to fight his way all the way to corporate.
And then after he beats up the CEO, he gets his $7 back.
libby emmons
Yeah.
brett dasovic
What if it ends up being pro-capitalist propaganda?
And the CEO is actually really nice to him.
And he's the one who gives him the money back.
And he spares the CEO.
phil labonte
I'm comfortable with pro-capitalist propaganda, to be honest with you.
tim pool
Yeah, it's a communist pizza restaurant.
unidentified
Well, no, no, no.
libby emmons
It's captain.
unidentified
It's a good thing.
brett dasovic
It's a big full of a bunch of jerks.
But the one guy who finally gives him his money back is the CEO because he understands business.
tim pool
All the employees were communists?
brett dasovic
Yeah, all of them.
They're not making enough money.
tim pool
You know, actually, what would be good is Jason Statham is a pizza delivery driver, but then communists take over, and then he goes and he just beats all of them up.
brett dasovic
He just kills them all with like the pizza cutter.
tim pool
Well, he doesn't always kill.
You know, he just punches them, they fall down and don't get back up.
brett dasovic
Yeah, but that's the what's one of the most annoying tropes in Hollywood now is the innocuous.
Maybe it's death, maybe it's right.
And it's ruining everything in filmmaking.
It should be absolutely for sure whether okay.
tim pool
Well, if it's AI, then I'm going to have him go around with like a 12-inch buck knife.
And he just, you know, they're gone.
Every single one of them.
And he makes his way all the way up to the government.
He kills every single communist revolutionary.
And then the president of the United States is like, you've saved us from communism.
And he goes, I did what?
brett dasovic
Unintended consequences.
tim pool
But why did you just kill all those people?
unidentified
Why not?
phil labonte
Yes, Jason Statham movie.
He deserved it.
unidentified
Because.
tim pool
All right, we got to go to your Rumble Rants and Super Chats, my friends.
Smash that like button.
Share the show with everyone in your life.
Maybe that's special somebody, your neighbor.
Tell them to watch the show.
And let's just see what y'all have to say about that.
NNY says, Re-Rumble Wallet.
Can I tip Phil directly every time he chastises Ian?
I want to encourage this behavior.
Also, if you can build Crisis Party and Chicken Party, can we have seat shockers?
phil labonte
I just want to understand what Ian's thinking.
So, like, I'm usually just asking questions.
Like, where did you get that idea?
tim pool
You know, okay, now this is a really good idea.
We should do a comedy podcast where each seat has a punching glove on a retractable arm, and there will be four meters.
And when any one of them hits $100, it will punch the person.
But not a serious punch.
robbie bernstein
And the nuts are in the head.
tim pool
In the face.
robbie bernstein
Okay.
tim pool
You'll get like, you know, it'll be enough to make you laugh, not actually hurt you, but it'll be funny because then people will be like, Ian's on the show.
We'll make millions of dollars.
He's going to be hitting.
phil labonte
You have to offer him like 10% or something like that.
All right, man.
unidentified
Cool.
Yeah.
tim pool
Perfect.
brett dasovic
Cover the CTE.
tim pool
That is a good idea.
And as for tipping Phil directly, if Phil has a Rumble account, I do.
And yes.
phil labonte
You do.
Yeah.
You can send me Bitcoin.
tim pool
I was going to say what we could do is we could add the QR to the lower thirds.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
phil labonte
There you go.
tim pool
So it'll pop up with a name with the QR code.
So if you have the Rumble wallet, you can just scan it while watching the show and tip the person if you like them.
Like that's a cool idea.
Look at us revolutionizing the internet.
phil labonte
Rumble wallet.
carter banks
People said QR codes were dead.
unidentified
Nah.
tim pool
All right.
Let's see.
AMC Conahey says, first, Super Chat to Timcast, I love this channel and thank you for all you do.
I'd like to give a shout out for my newish Catholic channel, Samco Vagabond.
God bless the Timcast crew.
Thank you, sir.
unidentified
Thank you.
tim pool
Zuzu's pedals, they need to be this angry for all the young girls gang-raped and trafficked by rape gangs and even sold by care home employees to their rapists.
Yeah, you know what's funny is the Epstein stuff is crazy.
We want the answers, but there's rape gangs in the UK.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Like, it's happening and we know it's happening.
libby emmons
And it's happened in multiple places.
And now they're like deleting the files.
You know, Kier Starmer's deleting files.
phil labonte
Because if they actually look into it, it's racist.
libby emmons
It's yeah, because it's racist to say that it's wrong to rape white girls.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
We got that place that I am says, why didn't the U.S. government release this information pertinent to Andrew to the UK government before the release of the Epstein files?
I bet they did.
And the UK didn't do anything because they protect the elites.
And with the release of the files, they said, uh-oh, we're in trouble.
We better arrest them now.
I think there's worse stuff.
Worse, worse.
robbie bernstein
Or the files came out and the UK was like, shit, that's not in the redacted part.
tim pool
Yep.
Phalanx says, so is Obama going to get arrested for leaking classified information?
Trump got raided for having allegedly declassified information in a locked room that is guarded by the U.S. Secret Service.
robbie bernstein
I'll be right back.
phil labonte
No, he's not going to get arrested at all.
Of course not.
That's ridiculous.
tim pool
Schnaj Berry says, this $10 Rumble rant, you'll be seeing more of this if you run for office, Tim.
Wink, wink.
The only thing that actually makes me consider wanting to run is that I'd love to answer these questions.
Like make the media ask me questions that I just want to answer.
brett dasovic
Like which one specifically?
tim pool
Literally anyone.
brett dasovic
Any of them at all.
tim pool
I will never get AOC'd.
It's impossible for that to happen.
First of all, I have no problem saying, you know, I don't have a good answer for you.
Quick-Witted Politician Answers 00:02:39
tim pool
It's that simple.
And all of the basic questions I love to talk about.
AOC has no idea what's going on, but see, here's the thing.
If I was lacking of intellect like her, but with the same degree of charisma that she and I both have to certain degrees, I'd also run for office.
You know, AOC has got charisma.
She does.
But she's not very smart.
But she is able to talk to people.
So politics is the natural place for her to be where she doesn't have to actually prove anything.
She can always blame everybody else.
libby emmons
She was also probably a good bartender.
unidentified
Indeed.
tim pool
Now, for me, I am good at talking and have a degree of charisma.
So I will actually just use my abilities to run a business and be successful.
And that's why I'm not in politics.
brett dasovic
Is there like a rule, like a hard and fast rule with politicians where like their advisors say, don't ever say, I don't have a good answer for you?
Are they like advised against that?
tim pool
Well, with AOC, the presumption is she was given an answer for these questions and she was struggling to remember.
So they told her, and the issue of Taiwan, you will say it's a long-standing U.S. policy that we do defend Taiwan.
However, we want to avoid at all costs any circumstance where this would actually happen.
And she was trying to remember.
So she's going, you know, that's bad.
Because she's like, where is it?
Where is it, my brain?
Man, she literally could have just said, you know what?
Let's put a pin in that real quick.
And I want to mention something.
She could, like, there's so many just simple, quick-witted segues you could do.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
She could have, she could literally just be like, you know, yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
brett dasovic
I mean, there's times like on the show where I'm like making a point and then just like I'm halfway through and then something just clicks and goes away and I'm like, crap.
And then I have to work my way back to it.
tim pool
Oh, that's easy.
If you're ever making a point and then you lose your train of thought, but you want to sound like it's not, get frustrated and change the subject, acting as though something just bothered you.
But if you really don't have anything top of mind to snap to, like, so let's say you're thinking of saying something, you're in the middle of your train of thought.
Like my final point is going to be that, you know, Trump is a great business person.
You weave a little bit to give an example, then you forget where you're going.
If you're quick-witted, you can just, you can just do something like, you know, no, I should even say this.
What I should say is, like, I forgot my train of thought.
So I'll just, you know what?
not gonna go there but if you're not quick-witted you can always just go you know right in the middle of your phil what are you doing And then it's like, I didn't lose my train of thought.
Cast Brew Attraction 00:11:34
tim pool
What were you doing?
Oh, I'm sorry.
Phil was doing something.
I got distracted by Phil.
phil labonte
Blame the other guys.
libby emmons
Yeah, you always, that's always effective to blame.
phil labonte
They're also known as the shit rolls downhill rule.
tim pool
Or, and this literally happened in here last summer, there was a frog running around.
libby emmons
Really?
Just a real frog?
tim pool
A real frog.
And what happened was I think.
libby emmons
I like how you say it was running.
tim pool
Was it Tate, maybe?
Or Kellen?
Somebody had a frog in their backpack.
unidentified
What?
libby emmons
What?
But why?
Did it sneak?
tim pool
When was this?
It might have been Dane.
carter banks
There are frogs outside.
tim pool
Oh, they're everywhere.
carter banks
Yeah.
There's thousands, especially when it rains.
tim pool
And they're all screaming.
brett dasovic
The worst was like we'd be in the middle.
We were in the middle of the show and there's bats in the other studio.
There was bats in the what?
Because there's the chimney there.
tim pool
There's bats?
brett dasovic
Well, not right now.
They're all dead.
But the point is, like, I'm in the middle of the show trying to deliver a point and you just hear like a bat in the background.
And I'm like, I was looking at the camera like.
phil labonte
You're like, are we in, are we on the very world?
libby emmons
They sound like mouses, but horrible.
phil labonte
They sound like they sound Eastern European.
libby emmons
I can't think of bats without thinking of those like three-foot-tall Australian bats.
unidentified
Yeah.
libby emmons
And then I just get crazy.
phil labonte
Oh, yeah.
libby emmons
Those are creepy.
phil labonte
Those things.
Fox bats, are they?
tim pool
Let's grab a couple more.
We got it.
I'm not your buddy guy.
Does anyone see that deucey question on aliens to Trump?
Here's a fun hypothetical.
What if they exist?
However, it's more of a spore-like alien that takes over the host.
And that's where all these woke come from.
Well, in the children's book series, Animorphs, they're little worms called Yerks.
I think.
Yerks.
I remember when I was like fifth grade and those books came out.
We were like, whoa.
brett dasovic
I never read them, but I watched like a 45-minute documentary on them.
Apparently, they were very traumatizing to us.
tim pool
Oh, no joke.
Dude, I couldn't believe they were giving these to us as kids.
Like one of the alien races had like a blade scythe tail that would slice people's heads off and stuff.
unidentified
Nice.
tim pool
And I'm like, why are children reading this?
libby emmons
Well, children read all kinds of things.
I mean, Grimm's fairy tales are brutal.
Very brutal.
tim pool
Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says, Brett and Co., we are once again headed towards World War III for the seventh plus time in the last couple of years.
How do you feel about it?
Guys, it's going to be so relaxing when the machine breaks down and I can just go be a chicken farmer.
libby emmons
I think about stuff like that a lot.
phil labonte
Farming chickens?
libby emmons
No, I think about opening a little, I think about opening like a little Italian restaurant.
phil labonte
Oh, okay.
libby emmons
You know?
phil labonte
I always assumed that it would be a bed and breakfast in upstate New York.
libby emmons
No, I don't need people staying over.
My God, that sounds awful.
You have to deal with these people in the morning.
Like you eat your spaghetti, you go home.
phil labonte
There you go.
libby emmons
But it would have a killer wine selection.
phil labonte
I was going to say, a couple drinks, right?
tim pool
We have an idea for Cast Brew.
libby emmons
We have a little good bar.
tim pool
You guys are going to love this.
One of our ideas for a Cast Brew Coffee Shop is that we're going to have a little miniature craps table and roulette wheel.
And the promo is, it's free.
It's not really gambling.
It's just, depending on how we do the promo, it's like you order a coffee.
You can then make a wager.
So let's say you're like, okay, we'll do roulette and I'll put, you know, I'll put my coffee on black.
And if it comes up, the coffee's free.
libby emmons
Oh, that's fun.
tim pool
Yeah.
So it's like, not all the time, but we'll give out coupons where it's like, you know, you might win a free coffee.
libby emmons
I'll go off Instagram like that.
It looks really cool.
Yeah.
tim pool
And then you're like, you roll a seven, you get a free coffee.
libby emmons
When is it checkoutable?
tim pool
We're thinking it's probably going to be up just by the end of March.
libby emmons
Nice.
tim pool
So what we're going to do is once we, so it's almost done.
Then we're going to do the final check, run through of everything, and then we're going to set a date.
But we want to do a members-only VIP pre-opening.
libby emmons
Okay.
tim pool
So Timcast.com, Discord members.
Can I get it?
Of course.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
Yeah.
You'll be one of the attractions.
libby emmons
Oh, how fun.
tim pool
We want to convince people to come.
We're going to say you can meet Libby.
Okay.
And so a couple of weeks, it should be totally done.
Very excited.
All the machines there.
The fridges are there.
There's going to be ready-to-eat food.
I don't think there's going to be hot food.
So it's going to be like ready-made sandwiches and things.
It's like how Starbucks has it.
And then coffees and all that stuff.
Second floor is a collectibles shop.
Third floor is trading card gaming collectibles.
So that's where we're considering, well, that's where we are.
If we do the show, which we believe we will, that's where the gaming show will be with Ian.
The concern everyone has is, will Ian be reliable enough to host a once-a-week show?
phil labonte
That's a great question.
Can we get that up on call sheet?
tim pool
Make our own internal prediction market.
unidentified
Right?
Yep.
tim pool
Let's scrab a couple more of these.
phil labonte
I'm putting $1,000 on no.
tim pool
Your fave says, Phil, you need to get Tim to change the cold brew to anti-communist cold brew.
What could be more American than coffee capitalism and hating communism?
phil labonte
Nothing.
brett dasovic
I'm excited about a concentrate because that's the only type of coffee I drink is cold brew concentrate.
tim pool
Yeah, it's lightly sweetened because it's just how we ended up making it.
And it's light.
So there are these little bottles.
It's two ounces.
You put it in a glass with like, I think eight or 10 ounces of water and you got a glass of coffee.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
You got a couple of coffee.
libby emmons
It's clever to just have the small things.
And you'll be able to buy those at the coffee shop?
tim pool
Yes.
And you can order them now at cashbrew.com.
Because we were trying to do cans of cold brew because we love it.
And then when we looked at it, it was like $5 per can.
libby emmons
Right.
tim pool
Because of the shipping costs.
brett dasovic
These are expensive at stores.
tim pool
We would have to map.
So the way Starbucks and all these other companies do it is they make millions of cans.
So if like we're talking about making, here's the challenge.
Are we going to sell 5,000 cans?
Probably not in a short amount of time.
The coffee will go bad.
So we can't have just coffee wasting away on a shelf.
So what if we did 1,000 cans?
We could probably sell that before they expire.
Okay.
That's not a very large order, which means it's going to be very expensive every time you do it.
And the first order goes through.
We don't know what our sales are going to be.
So we can't just say, we're going to sell these in four weeks.
So two weeks in, we need to have the next order.
You know, we've got to have a lead time on it.
So the easiest way to do it was concentrates.
So you can buy one bottle that's going to last you a lot longer.
It's a little bit more, it's like a comparable price, one bottle, whereas you'd normally get a can or like a six pack or something, you know, whatever.
The prices are comparable.
We don't got to deal with the shipping weight.
brett dasovic
It ends up being cheaper over like the jug of concentrate ends up being pretty cheap if you're making it throughout the week.
tim pool
Yeah.
And it works out too because Cold Brew has much, much, much, much higher caffeine.
Like serious like three or four times.
So, all right, let's see what we got.
We'll grab one more before we go to the uncensored portion.
What does that say?
SJC, Jason Statham enters corporate.
We are sorry, Jason, but your pizza is in another castle.
All right, everybody, smash that like button and share the show with every person you've ever met in your life.
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Robbie, do you want to shout anything out?
robbie bernstein
Yeah, I actually, if you guys live in this area, Perryville, Maryland at Fifth Company Brewery, I'm opening up for Sam Tripoli Friday night and then Dave Smith Saturday night.
Dave Smith sold out, but a couple tickets left for Sam Tripoli and Eddie Bravo, which is going to be a great show.
unidentified
Tomorrow?
robbie bernstein
Yeah, if you want to come out, Fifth Company Brewing.
tim pool
Can't do it, but what's Dave Davis?
He's got to come hang out.
robbie bernstein
Come Saturday night, bro.
That's it.
Dave Smith's there, Saturday night.
tim pool
In Perryville?
robbie bernstein
It's probably about an hour and a half from here.
It's a fun brewery.
I've done quite a few shows.
tim pool
Doing Friday and Saturday?
robbie bernstein
I'm personally doing Friday, Saturday.
Dave's just there Saturday night.
I'm doing Friday night with Sam Triple.
I don't know if you know him.
He's great.
unidentified
Of course, he's doing another show.
robbie bernstein
Yeah.
tim pool
Oh, man.
It might be rough.
I might try.
robbie bernstein
Yeah, come out either night.
I'm there both nights, and it's good lineups.
tim pool
Where are y'all based out of?
robbie bernstein
I live in Stanford, Connecticut, and then Dave lives in Jersey.
phil labonte
Oh, okay.
tim pool
So he's not that far away.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Well, because we want to come on after we did the micro beef.
I was like, just come on the show, bro.
robbie bernstein
Let's start more beef.
It's good for you.
tim pool
Because it wasn't.
It wasn't a real beef.
You know what I mean?
But like people wanted it to be.
People here were like, did you see what Dave said about you?
He called you cringe.
And then I was like, oh, I don't know.
Probably.
robbie bernstein
I got to be honest.
I'm a sucker for some, like as a podcast viewer, I'm a sucker for when people have drama going.
So, you know, it's good.
It's good for the market.
phil labonte
It's fun.
tim pool
Yeah.
You know, I don't think I said this on Piers, but I was like, I'd vote for him.
You know what I mean?
If he's going to run, he's my guy.
Anyway, Libby.
libby emmons
That's me.
Anyway, Libby, I'm over here.
I want to encourage you guys to go listen to the Pod Millennial, our guest this week.
It was Sopranos star Drea Demateo, and it was great.
We had a really fascinating conversation.
It got a little wild.
We've also had other amazing guests like rock star Phil Labonte, Jack Pesobic, Michael Knowles, and we have Tim Poole coming up.
So please check it out, thepodmillennial.com.
brett dasovic
Guys, if you could go follow me, I'm on Instagram and X at Brett Dasovic on both of those platforms, but you should also go check out Pop Culture Crisis.
We are on YouTube and Rumble.
We are getting dangerously close to 400K on YouTube.
And we just did our 1,000th episode.
You can go back and check that one out.
We are also live Monday through Friday, 3 p.m. Eastern Standard Time, which is New Pacific.
We'll see you there, guys.
phil labonte
I am Phil that Remains on Twix.
The band is all that remains.
You can check the band out at allthatremainsonline.com.
We're going on a tour this spring.
We're going out with Born of Osiris and with Dead Eyes.
The tour starts April 29th in Albany, and we'll be going through the end of May.
You can get tickets also at allthetermainsonline.com.
VIP packages are selling out, so you should probably get them soon.
You can check out the music at Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify, YouTube, and Deezer.
Don't forget the left lane is for crime.
Carter.
carter banks
What's up, everyone?
Thank you for watching.
Thanks for coming, man.
Got a really big show tomorrow, and you're not going to want to miss it.
So you can follow me at Carter Banks everywhere and follow our label at Trash House Records on YouTube.
tim pool
We do have indeed a very big show tomorrow with a very, very excellent guest.
We're very excited for this.
It's going to be a crazy conversation.
So you don't want to miss it.
We're going to leave you hanging on who it might be.
But for everybody who wants to come hang out, go to Rumble.com slash TimCastIRL, and we'll see you there in about 30 seconds.
Anyway, Robby, you were just telling us how you were taking a dump?
unidentified
Yeah.
robbie bernstein
Yeah, that's exactly what I was hoping to put out in the universe.
I wanted to let people know how comfortable I feel in other people's homes or studios.
tim pool
Sam Cedar broke the toilet.
Oh Ginger, The Processor Incident 00:02:19
tim pool
And he came in.
We were live and he was like, I'm sorry about your toilet.
And I was like, what?
He's like, I broke it.
And I was like, what?
Why are you telling us?
I think he was trying to insult that we have one of these like eco toilets.
libby emmons
It is a weird toilet.
tim pool
It's like a space age, butt-warming, low-flow toilet.
So it uses less water because it uses, it's got a motor, so it, you know, blasts.
But he, like, came in, he was like, I broke your toilet.
And I was like, why would anyone say that on a podcast?
unidentified
Yeah.
robbie bernstein
Yeah, just keep that to yourself.
That's you information.
unidentified
Yeah.
robbie bernstein
No, the second that door was locked, I came back.
I was like, man, it's going to look like I took a dump.
brett dasovic
That's one of my fears.
My fear was always like, if I leave during the show, that I'm going to get locked out.
The other one that I used to have back because I used to live over when we were at the castle, I had these dreams that I would walk into IRL with that while it was going on and not know that it was going on.
And I would just absentmindedly walk into the studio and Tim would look at me like, what the hell are you doing?
libby emmons
Oh, dude, I had a major screw-up similar to that today.
Did you?
Yeah.
So I was booked on Newsmax and the booker was like 12:30.
And I knew he'd said 12:30.
And I wrote it down in my handy date book as 12:30.
And I was wrong.
And so at 12:02, he says, Hey, we're ready for you.
And I'm literally like, I had just finished my workout.
I'm in my workout clothes.
I am a mess.
Like, I hadn't brushed my hair or nothing.
And I was like, oh, okay.
Like, I need two minutes.
I need two minutes.
brett dasovic
Was it just like a time zone?
Like, what happened?
libby emmons
No, I fucked up.
I thought it was at 12:30.
It was at 12.
And I was already running behind because, like, in addition to having worked out, I like had, you know, and I hadn't showered yet.
I had also decided that like it was exactly the right time to make banana muffins.
And then I was making the banana muffins and I was like, oh, ginger would be good in this.
So I put ginger in the food processor.
And then I was having too much fun with that because I was like, oh, now I can make ginger miso butter because I just got this food processor.
So I'm like making cool stuff.
So then I was like, oh, I'm having steak for dinner.
I'm going to make the ginger miso butter.
And so I was doing that.
And then I'm like, I get this message.
We're ready for you.
And I was like, fuck.
I'm texting the speaker.
tim pool
I'm like, fuck.
Why This Video Matters 00:02:31
tim pool
We're going to play this video for you.
Here we go.
Ready?
unidentified
Well, you better let me off here.
I don't think you can make it up the driveway.
tim pool
They catching missiles here or what?
unidentified
That's right, buddy.
We are.
And it's very hush, hush, top secret.
So forget you were up here and forget you saw any of this.
Forget about Tim.
Ah, home craft haul.
tim pool
And did you catch why this people are showing this video?
libby emmons
No.
robbie bernstein
Only because I saw the post.
tim pool
Well, what I would say is you started talking before the video completed.
libby emmons
And he said home crap home.
tim pool
No, the radio says, it's children singing, I am pizza, ready to eat.
So I guess people are thinking that's an insinuation of something, but it's a pizza delivery guy.
And there's a song about pizza.
brett dasovic
When is this from?
tim pool
1986.
robbie bernstein
What's the conspiracy with Wilson?
I know that there is a conspiracy.
tim pool
Wilson?
robbie bernstein
Yeah, and the volleyball, but they, the castaway, the handprint on it, someone's his blood.
I know, but I never dug into that conspiracy.
tim pool
It's heavily implied that he had sex with that volleyball.
robbie bernstein
Oh, I didn't pick up on that.
tim pool
Well, haven't you seen the movie?
robbie bernstein
Yeah, but I don't remember that.
unidentified
My favorite movie.
tim pool
He's like, Wilson!
That's the cry of a lover.
I didn't think the only explanation.
robbie bernstein
No, it's some sort of a symbol.
tim pool
You didn't see the scene where he's got it and he's like slowly moving it down.
robbie bernstein
I missed that part of the movie.
No, they say that it's some sort of a symbol, but I never dug in on that one.
But that's a little weird.
carter banks
I've heard about the ones where Tom Hanks would post pictures of socks or gloves he would find on the sidewalk.
phil labonte
Yeah, he used to do that all the time.
What?
He used to, on his ex account, he used to just post like random pictures of socks, like individual socks that he would see like out in the street.
robbie bernstein
It's fun to think that Tom Hanks might be the chief lizard.
brett dasovic
You know what I mean?
robbie bernstein
If you're going to be cartoonish with conspiracies, it's fun to think that this jolly guy that we loved his whole life is actually running the whole scheme.
phil labonte
I mean, that proves it.
libby emmons
It's like in that Simpsons episode when it's like the cabal of Mr. Burns and a bunch of other people, and they're like, who made Steve Gutenberg a star?
unidentified
It was us.
tim pool
Oh, the stone cutters.
libby emmons
Yeah, the stone cutters.
Government Moves Slow 00:07:43
tim pool
We do.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
phil labonte
I don't know what the stone cutters are.
tim pool
It was a joke on the Simpsons about the Freemasons.
phil labonte
Oh, okay.
tim pool
And then it turns out Homer is the chosen one, and he's got the stonecutter symbol as a birthmark.
And then Lisa convinces him to use their secret society for good in charity.
So they all quit and form a new secret society called the No Homers.
robbie bernstein
I remember as a kid thinking having a super secret tunnel that you could skip traffic.
I thought that was the coolest thing in the whole world.
tim pool
Skip traffic?
robbie bernstein
Yeah, there was the giant stone that moved to the side next to the stone.
Oh, right, Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, they clicked, what did it click a button or something?
robbie bernstein
Something like that.
tim pool
Yeah, the ring.
robbie bernstein
I just remember as a kid.
tim pool
The vending machine, you put your ring on it and turn it, and soda's free.
robbie bernstein
I don't remember that.
phil labonte
Basically, anything that allows you to skip traffic is pretty cool.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
You know, traffic is awful.
robbie bernstein
And I don't know, even as a kid, that resonated with me, though.
You would think that's more of like an adult thing once you got to commute to work and you're just sitting in it.
tim pool
Let's grab some callers and we'll start with Zachary.
Yo, what's going on?
unidentified
There we go.
Can you all hear me?
phil labonte
Yes.
unidentified
Hey, hey, thank you guys for having me.
I really appreciate it.
phil labonte
Thanks for calling.
unidentified
I appreciate that.
So my question is for everybody.
Are you guys all familiar with the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact?
tim pool
Indeed.
unidentified
Great.
Well, maybe.
What do you guys think would be the effects of that if, and frankly, in my opinion, when that becomes a thing?
Because the way I view it, they're like one state away from making that a national thing, which would just nuke the Electoral College.
So what do you think would happen when that happens?
And what do you think we can do to now to slow, if not stop it?
phil labonte
The Supreme Court might find it.
tim pool
There's an argument that if it were to be enacted, it would hurt Democrats because right now we don't count Republican votes in places like California for the most part because it's two to one Democrat.
But this would mean that The argument is there are more red state voters in blue states than blue state voters in red states.
So if we went popular vote, Republicans would actually come out in a much, much higher turnout.
The reason why the Democrats are always like, oh, the Republicans never win the popular vote, it's because California Republicans don't bother.
And so you've got, what is it, like 10 million Republicans in California just don't bother voting.
Like they largely are just like, hey, what's the point?
We can't win.
You add those to the mix, and there's an argument that it could actually change things for in favor of conservatives.
phil labonte
Yeah.
But I mean, it's possible that the, you know, someone would take a, take it, you know, come up with a lawsuit, go to the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court might find it unconstitutional.
You know?
So, because the way that the, you know, the structure of our government is laid out is supposed to have the Electoral College.
So if you just go around it, they might be like, well, that's defeating the purpose of the Electoral College.
brett dasovic
So 10 million voters in California that just don't come out because of the way it always goes.
phil labonte
I mean, why bother?
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
In California, it's like, why am I going to go and stand in line?
Especially in LA.
I mean, obviously, if you're in Orange County, people in Orange County go out and vote consistently.
But at the same time, it's like if you're anywhere, if you're up in Cupertino, I mean, I'm not going to vote.
Like, we know what's going to happen, you know?
So it does make sense that they would be like, hey, I'm going to stay home.
And if there was a national popular vote, it might actually change.
But not if they allow illegals to vote.
unidentified
Yep.
Yeah, and that's the big concern because I frankly forgot about how many Republicans there are in California, like today, that just don't vote because they're like, what's the point?
And for a few years, I was one of those guys that was stationed in San Diego.
But like, so that's, I've been kind of like basically blackpilling the thought of that.
Like, oh, wow, well, all right, they're just kind of our, you know, structure of elections at the federal level if they do that.
But that's, that's reassuring.
And the, the concern, though, is like, if we can't clean up voting state by state and they just flood illegals into places like Minnesota and California, like, okay, well, then they can just do what they want anyway.
Yeah.
phil labonte
I mean, that's, that's the argument that I always make when people are like, oh, you know, I'm not going to go vote because the Republicans didn't do this or didn't do that.
And it's like, I mean, I get it.
I understand being pissed off that they didn't do, you know, they haven't done what they said they were going to do.
But at the same time, it is only right now.
We're like not even a year and a half way, you know, or a year and a half through the first through the term.
And like people are already blackpilling.
It's like, I mean, look, the government moves slow.
That's just the way that it is.
It's the way it's always been.
And to think that like Donald Trump was going to come in and be a dictator, that was never going to happen.
Like he's not a king.
He's not a dictator.
Our government actually, you know, prevents the executive from doing a lot of stuff.
And he's actually done a lot of things considering the restraints put on the executive office.
So this idea that he was going to come in and just like, you know, make these dramatic changes, that was never realistic.
So if people voted for him thinking that was going to happen, as much as I hate to, you know, say it, it's like that's their fault because they didn't understand the way that our government works.
And to, like I said, I hate to blame people and be like, well, you know, you're dumb or whatever.
But it's like, come on, man.
You have to understand that the government works slow and that's the way it's supposed to work.
brett dasovic
I guess I was just like, from the very beginning, I never thought that any swamp was getting drained.
I thought like maybe we'd get some tax cuts.
Maybe they'd do some work at the border and maybe we'd see gas prices come down again.
tim pool
I didn't mean they nuked USAID.
brett dasovic
That's it.
And even that one or Doge and stuff like that.
Like that was about the majority of what I thought was going to happen.
So when I see the way it is now, like I read a post this morning that was like, have you ever seen someone lose the midterm so quickly?
And it was about glycophate.
And I'm just like, I was like, I'm tired, bro.
Like, I'm, I'm tired.
Like, I can't do this anymore.
phil labonte
I mean, all the criticism that most people have of Donald Trump, it's legitimate, but it's also, you know, it's also like, well, I mean, what did you expect?
Like, did you expect him to, you know, be a dictator?
Because that was never in the cards.
It was just never going to be possible.
You could, I, I think that a lot of this could have been a lot of the anger with the Trump administration was brought on by themselves because of the way they handled the Abstinene files.
And I think that I think that it's also a small but vocal portion of the population that are worried about that.
I'm still one of those guys that thinks that kids table issues are what people listen to, you know?
tim pool
Yeah, the national, I don't think the Popular Vote Compact is a play right now.
I don't think it matters that much.
The way that polarization is happening, the redistricting, there's a lot of other things that are much more important.
libby emmons
Yeah, I didn't even know about it.
tim pool
You didn't really?
libby emmons
No.
tim pool
I mean, it was a huge story a few years ago because it's looking like it might happen.
But now with the exodus from California and New York and the redistricting efforts, there's so much worse stuff going on.
unidentified
Well, yeah, but like with how they're doing, with what they're doing in Virginia, like they've had the bill on their deck and they're going to ran that through.
Pennsylvania has a bill pending, and so does South Carolina of all places.
But I mean, like, if it turns out that more Republicans are like, oh, wow, I matter now, then it might not be all that bad.
But yeah, that's like I said, I've been kind of like black pilling on this point because of, you know, what I mentioned just a couple of minutes ago.
So I appreciate the reassurance.
Prosperous Optimists Cheers 00:06:20
tim pool
Thank you.
phil labonte
Cheers.
unidentified
We'll see.
tim pool
Do you want to shout anything out?
unidentified
Yeah, thank you.
So I read books.
I write books about learning languages.
I have a couple specifically on Spanish and also make journals for languages about focus, productivity, and fitness.
You can search on Amazon, Zachary Kerr, post with no C, and find me there.
tim pool
Thank you.
Thanks for coming in.
carter banks
Thank you, man.
tim pool
All right.
unidentified
Next up, we've got Jay Dirt Biker.
phil labonte
What's up, Jay Dirt Biker?
unidentified
Hey, can you guys hear me?
All right.
Yep.
carter banks
Coming in clear.
unidentified
All right.
So my question is mostly for Tim and Phil, but anyone could jump in, I guess.
Both being new fathers and myself being one as well, constant bombardment of stories of AI taking over most jobs in the next few years.
What are you guys doing to set up your children for future success in the AI age?
And what can us normie blue-collar workers in the same position do so that our children are set up for success in this rapidly changing world?
tim pool
I'd say that I'm much too far away from that right now because my daughter is super young.
So we're not really planning for how to teach her to survive in an AI world, much more how to walk.
You know, I don't know.
I guess it's general self-reliance, probably nature stuff.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, I mean, when it comes to, look, I'm one of those guys that's very pro-AI and very pro-technology and stuff.
Like, I'm one of, like, there's probably like only like two of us here, two, maybe three of us here at Timcast that are like that.
And so I don't, I think the changes that are going to happen in the next three, four years are going to be so dramatic that it's impossible to predict like what the future is going to be five, 10 years out.
So, I mean, I intend to homeschool my kid.
I also intend to have a lot of help from AI doing that because that's, I think that that's literally what it's going to be.
I don't know if you know, but like ChatGPT just bought the Open Claw.
Basically, they hired the guy that came up with the Open Claw software.
Apple has not been doing anything for AI because it looks like they're just going to outsource it.
So, everyone that has Siri, like everyone knows that if you say, I won't do it to anyone, but you can activate Siri.
And it was supposed to be able to do things for you.
Well, Apple got out of the AI business and they just worked on the hardware.
And now they're going to outsource it to one of the existing AI companies, if I understand correctly.
So in the next couple of years, your Apple phone is going to be able to do things that agentic AIs can do because the technology is there now.
So the world is going to change a whole lot in the next couple of years.
So trying to predict, I don't even bother.
I like Tim said, it's like I'm worried about, can he sit up by himself yet?
robbie bernstein
I think your daughter sounds like she's young, so she'll make an easier transition to cyborg.
And if anything, you're lucky to have that child to be able to care for you and you can as easily integrate with the machines.
phil labonte
That sounds like a little on the blackpilled side.
robbie bernstein
No, I think technology is a great tool.
And people are always fearful of new technology and it displaces some industries, but makes things more efficient and actually leads to wealth and prosperity.
So unless the machines become self-aware and we were the dumb people that created the thing that was here to replace us, then I think we'll be all right.
So you either won't exist or your child's going to live in a much more wealthy and prosperous world, prosperous world.
libby emmons
I like prosperous.
robbie bernstein
Yeah, let's go with that.
You sound smart if you mess up the words.
That's how you make a convincing argument.
phil labonte
There you go.
Anything else you want to add?
libby emmons
That should legit be a word, prosperous.
tim pool
Or shouting out.
unidentified
No, not really.
I'm just concerned about the world that my daughter is going to be living in, I guess.
libby emmons
I'm worried about that too.
My son's 15.
And, you know, I thought when he was born, I thought I was doing a good thing by like starting to save for him for college.
And now I'm kind of like, you might not want to use this money for college.
You might just want to, and there's like a good chunk of it now.
Like it could pay for college.
phil labonte
He's going to be in college in like what, or a college age in what, two or three years?
Something like that?
libby emmons
Yeah, three years.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, he might, but like, if you've got a kid that's like, like my kid who's only a few months old, like, I don't expect to have to worry about him going to college.
Like, honestly.
libby emmons
Yeah, I mean, the colleges might all collapse, you know?
I mean, that's a concern too.
But I mean, it's hard when you are part of a, you know, it's hard when you've like grown up and existed in a specific kind of social order to imagine what it will be or to prepare for what it will be.
You can only, it's like, you know, with my son anyway, I've been preparing for what it was when I was coming up, which it's not like that at all.
I can't even buy for him the education that I got.
Like, it's not that I can't afford it.
It's that it literally doesn't exist.
And probably I couldn't afford it if it did, but it doesn't exist.
phil labonte
I have one piece of advice.
If you're going to pay attention to technology, which I think you should, you really should listen to the optimists.
There's plenty of people out there that are blackpilled that say that, you know, blah, blah, blah, everything's going to be terrible and we're going to be in a dystopia.
You got a kid, like listen to the optimists because there's so many people that are negative on it.
It's actually kind of hard to find the optimists.
So at the very least, search out the optimists, listen to what they say.
There are going to be really disruptive changes and there's going to be probably some issues that we have to deal with as a society as a society.
But you should at least expose yourself to the optimists, not just the pessimists.
So right on.
That's all I got.
tim pool
You want to shout anything out?
Anything out, brother?
unidentified
Absolutely.
I'll take that to heart.
Yeah, I'd just like to shout out my friend Arnie, ArnieRadio.com or the Arnie State Show on Rumble, 10 to 1 Eastern.
phil labonte
So cheers, bud.
tim pool
Thanks for calling in, brother.
carter banks
Thank you, man.
Optimists vs. Pessimists 00:03:27
unidentified
Next up, we've got Michael the Libertarian.
michael the libertarian in unknown
Hey, thank you so much for taking my call.
So my question was, why do you think there's no interest from our government in actually pursuing investigations or prosecutions in the Epstein files?
phil labonte
I mean, there's a million things that I can do.
tim pool
Yeah, I mean, I think we've talked about it a million and one times.
It's implications for people who are in major companies, threats to the stock market, international treaties, powerful global elites who are engaged in untoward activities from around the world, destroying and disrupting their businesses and making the U.S. look bad and disrupting the liberal economic order.
unidentified
You know?
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, it could be any number of reasons.
You know, it could be that they don't think that they have enough evidence to actually put someone in jail.
And so if you arrest people and you can't succeed in putting people in jail, it makes you look weak.
brett dasovic
That was always one of them.
It's like the release of the documents was one of those things where it's like, there's a reason why that information doesn't come out usually before a prosecution happens, right?
Is they release the information now.
And if you can't get any type of conviction for that, first of all, the U.S. government doesn't take somebody to court unless they know they are going to get a conviction.
Now, obviously, that is the very, very rose-colored glasses version of this.
And the more pessimistic version of this is obviously all of the evil that it entails involves all of the same people.
So they're not going to want to prosecute their own.
But it does call into question, you know, whether the release of the documents may have hindered some of that to begin with.
I don't necessarily know if that's the answer, but it definitely could have played a role.
robbie bernstein
I think if they wanted to investigate it, they can muck crack the thing right open and prosecute the hell out of people.
And the easy leads would be the chain of custody on the safe that came out of Epstein's apartment.
And then the next easy leads would just be hitting staff members with bullshit charges.
Could be as easy as the man act on the pilots until they want to testify on the next guy all the way up to the top.
There's enough loose crimes on the books.
The FBI is very good at prosecuting crimes when they want to.
And if they wanted to go after these people, they could get them all to turn on the next guy all the way up to the top.
They're just not interested in it.
brett dasovic
Are there statutes of limitations on some of those crimes that may come into play?
robbie bernstein
I bet if I spent a day and looked into all of the potential financial crimes and other crimes that these individuals engaged in, we could find some laws that were broken that you could still prosecute.
I can't imagine that every single crime that is alluded to in those documents are all past the statute of limitations.
brett dasovic
Then is it possible that they could go, like what they were doing with Prince Andrew, right?
Is the idea is that he's not going to go down theoretically for any crimes involving minors.
He's going to go down for something like selling state secrets, that they could get some of these criminals on those charges.
And then, like, if you were looking at it from the government's perspective and they're trying to satiate the people who want to see these people prosecuted, is like you were talking about Al Capone earlier.
robbie bernstein
That would still fall into what Tim was describing, that there's enough of an embarrassment or that it would turn the American public against the basically intelligence agencies that the government's not actually interested in digging into it.
So that would still kind of fall into the category of a cover-up if they decided to get everyone on the lighter, more palatable crimes to the general public.
Cover-Up Charges? 00:11:50
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
There you go.
You got anything you want to add?
Any follow-ups?
michael the libertarian in unknown
Well, I mean, I had one, but it's kind of irrelevant right now.
I just wanted to say, I'm going to the Perryville show, and I am very excited for that.
robbie bernstein
I've got a sick man say prepared.
Oh, I know you.
What's up, dude?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
robbie bernstein
Cool, man.
michael the libertarian in unknown
So, by the way, check your whistle pig.
Yes, I've got the whistle pig ready.
Tim, you should probably come out too, by the way, on Saturday.
tim pool
If I can.
unidentified
Yeah.
michael the libertarian in unknown
But just I wanted to shout out Run Your Mouth and Porsche Troy, by the way.
robbie bernstein
That's a good man.
You got good fans, Tim Pool.
michael the libertarian in unknown
Yeah, no, thank you so much for taking my question.
tim pool
Right on, brother.
Thanks for calling in.
All right.
And I guess last but not least, who do we have?
Is Pandish the last one?
Or do we already get through everybody?
Pandish, did we?
We didn't have you yet, right?
phil labonte
I don't think so.
unidentified
No, not yet.
tim pool
Oh, there we go.
phil labonte
We got you.
carter banks
Panda.
panda-ish in unknown
Hey, how's it going?
So my question is a panel question.
So with everything that's going on, if you were the PR team for the White House, like what do you do to get people, like what commercials or whatever would you suggest that they could do to get people and the public back into favor of like ICE, abstain any of this stuff, tariffs, Iran?
tim pool
Put Ice on a leash.
Stop falling for agit prop.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I don't know how you get back because they walked into this problem themselves.
It's tough.
phil labonte
I mean, I think that it might take firing Pam Bondi.
I think that, you know, great.
Yeah.
I mean, I think that it would take some changes at the administration.
And I like, you know, like we were saying, if they put some people in jail that were on the Epstein list, if they, I mean, nothing's going to be done before the midterms anyways.
But if they had, you know, people in, if there was a process beginning regarding people that were on the Epstein list, that might help.
But I think that they've kind of dug their own grave.
I'm not sure exactly how they get out of it.
Like I've said it a million times.
I'm still of the opinion that it will boil down to the economy, how people feel about their economic situation and how the actual candidates themselves are actually performing their campaigns.
I don't think that Donald Trump can save anyone.
I don't think that doing a bunch of stuff at the DOJ and arresting people is going to actually activate people because I think that the people that care most about that are mostly young people.
Not that there aren't people older that care, but I think they're mostly young people and they're low propensity voters anyways.
So these are just kind of like they're boring DC kind of talking points, but that's kind of the way that it works.
brett dasovic
As far as ICE goes, they've run into such PR trouble given the fact that they've become under so much fire for incidents with the general public.
Somebody like me is wondering why they're not going after factory farms or looking to punish the businesses that make it attractive for people to come here.
And I just don't know if there's a way to work your way back into the public's good graces with that sentiment right now.
libby emmons
Yeah, I think that's a tough, I think it's tough.
I think the way that Minnesota was handled was pretty bad, obviously.
And you wonder if they're going to take a fresh look at that blueprint before they roll out operations in other places.
But I think that the right is really, I mean, not the right, the Trump administration is really good at messaging to the right.
They're much better at that.
And they have absolutely no messaging for the left whatsoever.
Like they're not even seeking to get people who hadn't voted for Trump in the past or hadn't voted GOP in the past.
They're not even hoping for that.
And they're barely even trying to hold on to what they have.
I find it very bizarre some of the policy measures that are rolled out and what we see from the official Twitter accounts and how they're treating what's going on.
I mean, I even think the whole Board of Peace thing was kind of tone deaf, you know?
brett dasovic
What do you mean, like the stuff they're posting on social media?
Do you mean like the stuff that like ICE was posting of like hype reels of no, I mean like the rapid response.
unidentified
Okay.
libby emmons
You know, it's just so many clapbacks of like, you know, actually it's like this.
And it's like, okay, first of all, you're posting that on X and X is a pretty conservative platform at this point.
But none of this stuff is going to appeal to people that don't already think that you're doing a good job.
brett dasovic
When they argue with like celebrities, I get, I get annoyed.
Like I do.
libby emmons
Like the stuff where they're like yelling at Bruce Springsteen, it's like he's just a stupid old man.
Like, don't worry about Bruce Springsteen.
Don't worry about Bono.
brett dasovic
Trump brought it all on himself when he got into it with Kimmel and them, which was a message that he could have, it's a, it's a problem he could have completely avoided if he just didn't talk about it.
unidentified
Yeah.
brett dasovic
They were already irrelevant.
libby emmons
They were talking about how he thinks Rosie O'Donnell is fat anymore.
brett dasovic
Nobody cares about late night show hosts anyways.
You gave them more credibility just by talking about it.
And now it's going on again with Brendan Carr and the FCC and all of that.
libby emmons
And they're lying.
I mean, you know, what's his name?
Stephen Colbert and Tallarico are lying.
It's pissing off Jasmine Crockett, which is the fun part of it.
But yeah, I don't think that they're handling messaging well for anybody who isn't already like chill with what they're doing.
brett dasovic
I think they kind of talked themselves into believing that more, like some of the moderates were more right than they are, the people that were willing to hold their nose and vote for the Republicans because they were upset with immigration with under Biden and all of the other things that happened.
And they lost a decent amount of people because they're messaging to people that are farther right than they are.
libby emmons
And they're super snarky about it.
brett dasovic
Yeah.
libby emmons
Which is a little distasteful when you're talking about like, okay, you know, Predty and Good were definitely doing stuff you shouldn't be doing, but these are also people's lives.
You don't get those back.
unidentified
Yeah.
brett dasovic
And then you saw people that were saying like, look, you know, when Charlie Kirk was murdered, you know, and people were celebrating his death and they're like, the right would never do that.
I saw stuff immediately about Predi and Good.
libby emmons
They were bad.
unidentified
Yeah.
brett dasovic
Like, I'm just, and I'm not like, if you're going to say that, then stand on business and actually own up to your, you know, to what you're saying and don't talk crap about people that it happened to, but they did.
libby emmons
Right.
brett dasovic
Meaning that they're not really all that much different than the left anyways.
libby emmons
Better would have been like, we really, we seriously mourn this death.
We wish that this wouldn't have happened.
You know, we hope that Tim Waltz and other sanctuary state governors take a closer look at their policies and maybe allow our federal agents to work with their local officers.
You know, say stuff that is meaningful instead.
brett dasovic
That's not even supposed to be an emotional argument at its core either.
It's all about PR and it's all about making yourself effective as an administration.
Now, it's not to say that you can't say, like you said, they put themselves into really, really stupid situations and bad shit happen.
110% understandable.
But like if you're talking about messaging to people who do lean in a more emotional manner, you do have to get through to them.
Now, that's not always going to be fun because you are going to have to soften your language when you might want to be more snarky.
But if we're talking about being effective, that is the way forward.
phil labonte
Okay, you got anything you want to add?
panda-ish in unknown
Yeah, because I was thinking, I think the best way at least to get people back on the especially criminal deportations would be to have Homeland Security literally create a tab for every sanctuary city with all the people that they're willing not to give up that are doing crimes and put how much,
like, how many crimes, like some of them have like, what, 20 arrests, 20 plus arrests, and then put the budget of how many times it costs to arrest that dude, put him through, you know, the courts, and then the courts just keep releasing them back out into the city and just blur that out, especially before the elections, because then people will be like, wait, you're using money and just not kicking this dude out.
libby emmons
Yeah.
unidentified
Yep.
libby emmons
And it is expensive to like keep arresting the same.
panda-ish in unknown
Because some of these blue cities have like over like 2,000 people that they're just not giving to the government to just kick out of the country.
libby emmons
Yeah, I think you're right.
I think you're right about that.
But that takes a level of organization, and it takes somebody to sit down and do that job.
And they're too busy clapping back on Twitter at Bruce Springsteen.
brett dasovic
It's so annoying.
panda-ish in unknown
Well, that's what I'm saying.
It's like, if you were the PR team, it's like, you know, what would you do to get positive PR back to them?
And especially with ICE, because all these sanctuary cities keep on saying they're not going to release even their criminals to ICE, which is ridiculous.
libby emmons
Yeah, who was the DHS press secretary?
Was it basically Trisha McLaughlin who was doing that?
And now she quit.
phil labonte
I don't know.
libby emmons
She was basically doing that stuff.
Anyway, I'm sorry.
tim pool
She quit probably because the pressure was merciless.
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
And it's like, who wants to be in an administration where if you lose, you're going to prison next time.
libby emmons
Yeah.
And they tried to put everyone in prison last time.
unidentified
Yeah.
libby emmons
Including 19 people indicted in Georgia.
panda-ish in unknown
I got an Epstein conspiracy theory for you guys.
carter banks
Also, okay.
tim pool
All right.
panda-ish in unknown
I think Epstein was actually a Patsy.
He's like the Bill Clinton to Delaney's Hillary Clinton.
She's actually the agent that everybody's been trying to figure out, like, you know, Mossad and all the MI6, all that shit, because she's having sex with the teenage girls.
tim pool
I agree.
And then Epstein was like a random nobody, and Gee Lane Maxwell was the son of the spy.
And so they were like, we need somebody who takes the fall for us in the event that it comes crashing down.
panda-ish in unknown
Yeah, that's why they killed him.
They thought that that would end the whole situation so that she could continue doing the spy stuff.
Because even in Trump's thing back in 2006, he said, hey, she's the actual evil one.
So she's actually the agent.
She just gets them hemmed up with the guy with the charisma who's, you know, who has the motion to fucking do all sorts of weird shit.
robbie bernstein
I think the Mossad was smart enough not to trust its organizational work to a lady, and that's why she recruited Epstein.
brett dasovic
Won't be able to park the getaway car.
It's going to be horrible.
robbie bernstein
And that's how they keep us down is by socializing the rest of us to hire women so that we can't compete with these intelligence agencies who know better.
unidentified
You see?
robbie bernstein
It's all part of the scheme.
libby emmons
You have a problem with women having jobs.
robbie bernstein
No, I'm making a joke.
tim pool
No, just voting.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
robbie bernstein
I'd like to issue a clarification that I have no problem with female labor just voting.
unidentified
Okay.
panda-ish in unknown
All right.
tim pool
You want to shout anything out, brother?
panda-ish in unknown
You know how Gavin Newsome said he was Trump was a sexual Trianosaurus Rex?
How did nobody make an AI thing with Trump's head on Justin Vitruv's body and behavior?
robbie bernstein
There's no rock awaits, brother.
libby emmons
I think you should probably do that.
panda-ish in unknown
With a can of ice and just tells him this will make you a fucking sexual Trianosaurus Rex.
Come on, nobody remember that scene, The Predator?
unidentified
Of course.
panda-ish in unknown
Awesome.
All right.
That's it.
That's all I got.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Thanks for calling in, brother.
unidentified
Have a good one.
Tomorrow is a big, big show.
robbie bernstein
It's the biggest.
tim pool
It's going to be big.
So we're going to wrap it up there.
Guys, thanks so much for hanging out.
We're back tomorrow morning, of course.
No culture war, but it's okay because IRL is going to make up for it.
It's going to be fantastic.
And we may be shifting how we actually do it with IRL and Culture War to get the debates going.
So, Robbie, thanks for hanging out.
robbie bernstein
Thank you for having me.
This was awesome.
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