THEY'RE LOSING THEIR MINDS | Timcast IRL #1444 ft. Andrew Wilson & Rob Noerr
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Well, they only showed the problem was, you know, people went and found the video.
They only showed this small amount which was attached to the clip.
And of course, that small amount only showed.
So that's kind of what the left-wing cope about this is.
And they're going berserk.
Every single major talking head that I've seen who's on the left who needs no excuse to call out the evil racist, you know, imperial overlord Donald Trump is losing their shit collectively over this.
By the way, this article comes in from it's Tim Scott, TMZ.
Trump's Obama ape video was extremely racist.
Getting into it, U.S. Senator Tim Scott is slamming President Donald Trump's controversial video depicting Brock Barack and Michelle Obama as apes, which he's describing as incredibly racist.
I was not, listen, I was laughing because of how uncomfortable that made me to say that.
Yes, I could tell.
Not because it was funny.
Stop it.
You're going to get me canceled.
I see why am I.
Okay, so the video which Trump posted on True Social Thursday night showed Barack and Michelle's faces imposed on a pair of apes.
And as we know, depicting black people as monkeys or apes is a racist trope that's been around for centuries.
Like, I think it would have been way more based if he would have shared like the Allen clip with, you know, Michelle Obama's junk, you know, juggling around.
Scott, the only black Republican in the Senate, hit out at Trump on X writing, praying it was fake because it's the most racist thing I've seen out of this White House.
The president should remove it.
And of course, California Governor Gavin Newscomb called it disgusting.
By the way, this is the Kill Tony audition here, right?
Anyways, Mike Lawler, right?
Mr. Open Border himself.
Let's give like, it's not amnesty.
Ask yourself this.
What's more offensive to the black community?
I'm not black.
I don't know if you could tell.
If I was, I would find it more offensive that Chuck Schumer's out there saying 71% of Democrats want voter ID, including over 50% of Democrats are blacks, and he's saying that's Jim Crow.
So, on one hand, we have a little harmless joke that was obviously accidental.
The Democrats claiming that even black Democrats are like, sure, I don't have a problem with voter ID.
That's Jim Crow 2.0 because, you know, black people are incapable of accomplishing the Herculean task of getting an identification.
It's such a joke.
So I'm not going to clutch my pearls or leave people clutch pearls over some dumb story like this.
It was an accident.
The real truth is that black Americans are being screwed by this government, including Democrat administrations that care more about foreigners than they do the people in their own communities.
And so this is a nice distraction for them to pretend like they care about this community.
They don't care.
It's the same playbook that it's been for years.
Just scream racist and do nothing to help your constituents.
I think the next time we go and we do some hard ice raids and stuff, we just throw out a video like this and, you know, people get way more upset about this than what's going on.
This comes from Fox News Politics over on X. Justice Department charged 158 Minnesota anti-ICE protesters with obstruction, assault, and FACE Act violations, crimes carrying up to 20 years in prison.
So nearly 160 people arrested for impeding assaulting federal officers in Minnesota last month.
Borisar Tom Holman said drawdown in federal agents will happen when more Minnesota counties cooperate and if people stop interfering with federal agents.
Quote, if you violate the law, you will be federally prosecuted, Holman said during a press conference on Wednesday.
Is there anything new going on here though, really, Rob?
This is this is the Republicans in a nutshell, right?
Like I remember when Roger Stone got like 10 years for the same crime that we knew people in the FBI committed, like misleading or lying to law enforcement.
And Bill Barr stepped in and was like, no, man, two years.
And Republicans were like high-fiving each other, like, we did it.
And then meanwhile, it's like, well, how much did Bill Barr recommend for Andy McCabe or Comey?
Zero years.
That's constantly the Republicans like, what a victory.
There are lefties that are rioting, collaborating across the country with big money donors, politicians in the Democratic Party that are encouraging them to go out every single night on the street, an insurrection, right?
And we are supposed to get all excited because it's like, well, 158 people got arrested and 80 of them, they're already considering prosecuting.
It's so absurd.
I just want you to think for a second.
Imagine anywhere in this country in a red area, right?
Where you had some Republicans that start paying lip service to like, well, we're against Obamacare, so we're going to stop federal authorities from coming in and doing things with Obamacare.
And all of a sudden, right-wingers just start beating the shit out of like the FBI under Joe Biden or something.
The Marines would have been sent in day one.
And yet we have cities in this country like Seattle, Portland, now Minneapolis, where it's perpetual every single day.
What happens is inevitably it's going to lead to a conflict with ICE, and then they get to have their martyrs and clutch their pearls.
So I'm sorry, it's not enough.
It's a good start, but I want to see actual people in positions of power start to be held accountable and not just their street communists that they have on the street there.
What they're doing, what these protesters do is they want the stand down orders from the locals.
They don't want any local PD, period.
If there's no local PD, then the feds have to deal with it.
And every minute that protesters are dealing with feds who aren't supposed to be doing any sort of riot patrol and aren't even trained for doing that, the chances of an incident increases.
And that's what the entire plan is and has been for a long time.
We can watch this night after night after night out in front of Portland, and we do on the Crucible all the time.
We're watching these people out in front of Portland.
They're rioting in front of the ICE station.
They do it in Minnesota.
They do it all over the place.
And that's what the goal is.
And so I think what's happening here finally is they're trying to bring some kind of charges forward so that they can try to disperse these people.
But I don't think it's going to go anywhere.
If you have the locals and they have a stand down order, then there's going to be federal agents who have to deal with them in front of these federal facilities.
And that is inevitably going to lead to conflict with protesters.
And it's going to lead to more of the shootings.
It's going to lead to more of this type of violence.
It's so criminally like just disgusting what the Democrats, the media, et cetera, are doing.
The problem we have is the Republicans are incapable of winning a narrative.
Like we literally have people rioting.
Remember, they freaked out.
Black Lives Matter happens.
We see the riots.
It's mostly peaceful.
The media is all on board with it, right?
I had been saying we are doing these debates.
People like me and Andrew are doing these debates over and over again with these people.
I told them the entire summer of love.
Eventually the rules are going to change and it's going to be like the right's going to say, oh, we're allowed to riot.
We're allowed to just do that.
Right.
And when it happens, the first time it happens, you people will lose your mind and you'll say it's the biggest deal in the world, but it's predictable because once you tell one side, go ahead, you could riot with impunity, other side's going to do it.
January 6th happens.
Now all they do is kick and scream.
It was an insurrection.
Kick Trump off the ballot.
Section 3 of the 14th Amendment.
He engaged in an insurrection because he said fight like hell.
Now we're right back to where we started.
By their definition, this is an insurrection on a daily basis.
And not only is it occurring, the media is celebrating it.
The Democratic politicians are celebrating it, saying they need to go further.
We have people like Don Lemon breaking into churches.
He's getting celebrated at the Grammys.
AOC saying he did a great job.
AOC on tape telling people how to de-arrest people, right?
This is clear obstruction and based on their definition, insurrection.
And yet we play this game where we have to sit here and hyper parse anytime there's a violent conflict.
Oh, well, was the Renee Good shooting good?
Oh, was the Alex Preddy shooting good?
It is inevitable.
You take any law enforcement agency in the world and put them hundreds upon hundreds of times in conflict with people that are against them that are being supported at high levels.
And inevitably there's going to be a violent altercation.
The left wants martyrs.
Imagine being with a group in an organization that's hoping you die so they could stand on your corpse and then photoshop you like they did Alex Breddy because you're too much of an ugo to be the martyr that they need.
It's really disgusting.
And I'm tired of the do-nothing Republicans incapable of winning this narrative.
They fall for it every time.
Well, let's go frame by frame through this shooting and see.
Yeah, maybe the shooting was good.
Maybe it was bad.
But it's inevitably going to happen again and again and again until people call it out for what it is.
The left doesn't like the results of an election, so they riot.
And their game is, if you vote for us, we'll stop the riots.
So they essentially are saying that they're causing, they're causing the problem and then promising that they're going to fix the problem that they're causing, right?
Well, and if you're building barricades out in these streets, what are you preparing for?
It's not anything good, right?
And that we saw that recently.
We had protesters, protesters going out and they're building barricades preemptively.
Why?
So that they can get behind them after they start, you know, throwing fireworks and firebombs at police officers, which is what they do constantly.
So they're preparing for another summer of love.
It's happening.
The fact that these protests have even been able to sustain themselves in this temperature and they use outside agitators.
They bring them in.
They've been bringing them in from all over the country.
We were watching the Minnesota Live the day of Don Lemon going in and creating all the havoc at the church.
And one of the guys who was out on the street, they're going protester to protester to protester.
Hey, where are you from?
None of them were from there.
They're all from outside areas and they're busting them in because, of course, people don't want to stay out there and freeze their balls off, but agitators will do that.
And so they're just trying to keep it alive for as long as possible until the weather warms up.
And that's when you start to see this thing really pop off again.
You got to play the Imperial March while they're coming in.
And they got to bring in some orders.
And they got to put them under the boot because if your local police is basically being told to stand down, and that's what's happening, where the hell are they?
I watched him take a guy.
There was a guy who was out there and he had his bullhorn and he was just saying in a crowd swarmed him.
They beat him all the way back to his car.
It was insanity.
It was insanity.
Never seen anything like it.
Not a cop in sight.
Where the hell are they?
Well, the local governments are telling them to stand down.
That's what's going on.
They're telling they're keeping them away from enforcing anything that's going on with these protests.
The whole point of that is so that then federal agents, they themselves have to protect the federal buildings, which are being surrounded.
These protesters, what they do is they march through the streets and where do they always end in front of the federal building.
National Guard units and things like this are usually dispatched in order to guard those federal buildings.
And so that's what's going on.
They're trying to increase the likelihood of incident between them and federal officers.
They can point to them and say, they're Nazi fascists and look at what they're doing to us.
What would be the difference at this point if you sent in the stormtroopers here in order to guard these buildings?
Yeah, but the message has to be it's going to be ugly and we have to get used to the fact that it's going to be ugly because the left wants it to be you have to win the PR battle.
You have to be aggressive and you have to win the PR battle.
January 6th, how many law enforcement officers died?
What was it?
Like four or five, right?
That's the narrative they beat in our head.
Actually not true.
None did that day.
But that's the narrative.
You want to know why?
Well, a lot of officers unalive themselves months later.
That's how great they were at propaganda.
They were able to push that narrative.
I wonder how many ICE officers may self-harm, seeing as how they can't even be at a hotel without these people riding and trying to take it over.
And yet, where are the Republicans?
Where's the Trump administration telling their story?
We had an ICE officer with his finger bit off the day Alex Predty was shot.
It was out of the news in 20 minutes.
The Trump administration should be out there daily.
Every time they do a press conference, they should have a big screen behind them just showing the violent left riding 24-7 just playing.
Every time they take a question from anyone in the mainstream media.
And before we get to that question, here's another example of the violent left attacking law enforcement officers again, over and over.
This was true in Trump term one, too.
Remember when they attacked ICE facilities and they would take down the American flag and fly the Mexican flag?
These are people that are funded by big interests that want mass migration and hate the people of this country.
And the Trump administration needs to push it because I'll tell you this much, ain't going to be the feckless Republicans, many of which allowed this immigration crisis to get out of control in the first time.
So they're sitting back.
That's the big, like, the big, well, why don't they end the filibuster to pass some of this stuff?
You want to know the dirty little secret?
Because enough people in the Senate, the Republicans, don't want Trump's agenda.
And that's why it's left to Trump to go out there and say what you will about him.
I think he could be doing a better job.
But it's all on him and his administration to win the PR war and to make all the perfect moves.
And as soon as something happens like the Alex Predty situation, all of a sudden the Republicans come out of the woodwork.
Well, we don't like this.
Maybe it's time to have the Dignity Act.
Maybe it's time.
Because that's what they want.
They're sellouts that want this mass migration to continue.
As federal agents conducted operations in St. Cloud back on January 12th, that same day, officers made an arrest detailed in this court document.
Prosecutors accused Timothy Catlett of giving an officer the middle finger.
When the officers tried to leave, they say Catlett pounded on the hood and kicked the side door of their car.
The Department of Homeland Security posted his photo on social media, calling him an agitator, and then Thursday filed to dismiss its own case.
Davis Redmond is among the eight others whose photo was posted online by DHS.
Prosecutors accuse Redmond of driving aggressively while following Border Patrol agents before he suddenly accelerates his car, colliding with the black GMC driven by Border Patrol.
Redmond's attorney called the charges bogus and the decision to bring the case outrageous, saying the charges were downgraded on Thursday to a misdemeanor.
In a separate case, prosecutors say this federal agent was shoved and punched in the face.
Brittany Stallings is accused of assaulting him.
Borders are Tom Homan said in the last month, 158 people have been arrested, accused of impeding officers.
It's unclear if that number includes cases like Matt Allen, better known as Twin Cities rapper Nerd D. Our cameras captured the arrest the day Alex Predty was shot.
A lot of the foot soldiers do think it's a LARPing game.
But the reason I don't advocate for sending out the stormtroopers, or I'm real concerned, is because in the rules for radicals, when you read about a radical attempt at a communist takeover, you want to get your enemy to do the mistake.
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They're trying to lull the federal government into becoming the fascists that they're telling them they are.
And they're like, if the government cracks down and becomes deadly fascist, then the communists will say, see, we told you all along, now rally to our cause and let's overthrow this government.
So like the government has to not snap, but at the same time, pick up criminals and arrest criminals without becoming the brutes that are saying they are.
It's the same mistake Trump made in the summer of love.
This is exactly, you're right.
This is the game they were setting up.
The argument going into 2020 is Trump's a fascist.
So they kept setting the dominoes.
We'll have places like Kenosha.
We'll stand down.
We'll just tell the cops to stand down.
We'll do it in New York City.
We'll do it in Atlanta.
We'll do it in Portland.
We'll do it in the Chad Zone.
And then we'll wait for Trump to send in the National Guard and then say, see, he's a fascist.
The problem is Trump should have sent in the National Guard.
Because at some point, if you're like, well, we're worried that if we do this, they'll use this to weaponize and make us look like the bad guys.
Okay, then the alternative is don't do it.
Leave them call you the bad guys anyways and get away with this with impunity.
What they should have been doing when this started in LA, this is what I would have done.
Declare the Insurrection Act or send in the National Guard, whatever the courts allow you, which is a joke in its own right.
And then go out during the day, go to your Home Depot, go everywhere.
Every time they riot, get five times more legal the next day.
Send five times more Border Patrol.
And then at night, take them all back to the federal buildings, protect the federal building, and let them burn.
Let them burn down the city.
Go ahead.
You go burn down LA.
Leave the LAPD deal with it.
We're just going to protect our little area.
You guys, you come in our area, we're going to throw the book at you.
We're going to arrest you, throw the book.
But you go ahead, go loot.
Go for it.
We don't care.
Do it every day until finally they're like, then you have to win the PR war as well.
I agree with that portion of it.
But we cannot allow the left to be like, well, we're allowed to just riot and do whatever we want with impunity if we don't win, knowing that if you guys try to crack down, we'll say, oh my goodness, here are the communist fashions.
Meanwhile, when you guys lose, we'll go after your lawyers.
We'll go after everyone connected to Trump.
We'll go after you for mortgage claims.
We'll have sedition hunters that we now know the government was paying to watch all these videos on YouTube to go after blue-haired grandmas.
They'll throw around their weight and no one calls, oh, the media, no one's calling them fascists or anything like that.
So I'm tired of it.
Like, maybe you're right, Ian.
Maybe it ends up worse.
I don't care, though.
The status quo is just me getting trampled on over and over again while the people that lose get to use violence whenever they want.
So if the Democrats sweep in in the midterms, and they may, they very well may, they're going to impeach him again.
He'll be the thrice impeached president, and that will be the legacy of his entire administration will be that he's battling a third impeachment, right?
That's what it's going to be.
So what does Trump have to lose at this point by fighting back a little bit, by sending in the federal troops?
How's that going to defame him more or hurt him more than if he doesn't?
It might not harm his career to sent him in, but I'm concerned for just the statute or what it would set as a precedent for a president just to unilaterally send National Guard into cities against the will of the governor.
When they wanted to make sure that little black kids could go to school, the president, he federalized the National Guard.
And that was against the will of the governor.
So there is precedent for it.
That's one.
And two, the situation dictates at this point, if you have local governors, local mayors, and local Democrats who refuse to enforce local law, and they're allowing the federal buildings to get surrounded.
How do you deal with that except to reinforce the federal buildings?
Like, I don't even see how you do it any other way.
They're going to believe that he's a fascist no matter what.
They're all playing for this small block of the undecided, of which there's, I don't even think there's that many of them anymore.
And what's happening right now is people, people want action.
They're sick of seeing these lunatics on the street doing this day in and day out.
They don't understand why the government is so hamstrung.
And it's due largely in part to the advice that they're given, especially through the libertarian arm, telling them, look, optics, optics, optics, optics.
We're past optics on this.
We're way past optics on this.
And by the way, they're winning the optics war through the inaction.
So there needs to be action.
And Trump has nothing to lose.
And we have nothing to lose by rolling it all here on red.
Another outcome that could be bad is if they are like, in order to collect these 20 million illegal immigrants, we need to set up our spy tech network through Palantir.
We need to start using satellites to read your biometric data through walls with radio telescopes.
Can't we have a happy medium of like, oh, you just have to show your ID to vote and not, oh, you have to give up biometric fingerprint data?
You know, I feel like the libertarians constantly do this.
They're constantly pushing this idea that it's either 1984 George Orwell, right?
Or no law and order whatsoever.
And it's like, no, you know, we can have reasonable laws.
The idea that you need to show ID to vote, the idea that you need to follow some basic laws of the land, I think is fine.
And I don't think that that's crossing any Rubicons.
I don't think that that's, you know, your dishwasher talk.
I don't think people are supporting your dishwasher spying on you and your cell phone spying on you and your computer spying on you and biometric hacking.
They don't want any of that, but they do want illegals to not be able to vote in our elections.
They do want to make sure that illegals can't get public welfare with, you know, by just petitioning for it with no ID, no nothing.
There's still part, a little remnants of like the libertarian adjacent in me.
So I don't want that.
Problem is, isn't it interesting how we always come up with this when it comes to doing the things that the American people want or people like me want, right?
So when Obama is in office, like, no problem, Patriot Act, George Bush, no problem, Patriot Act, Fourth Amendment shredded, no problem at all.
But when it comes to like keeping our country secure from illegal immigrants, now all of a sudden, well, there's privacy concerns.
Under the last administration, I had to listen to the left tell me over and over that I needed to have a vaccine card to go out and do anything.
They needed to see everything about my medical history.
They needed to be able to look into my banking information if I ever went to like, you know, a January 6th rally or anything like that.
But now all of a sudden, those people are like, well, you're a bootlicker and you're invading people's privacy.
If you want to be able to make sure that people are legal or else we kick them out, that's too far.
So I'm sorry.
At some point, this game begins exhausting where the one side plays for keeps and they're like, we'll be the most authoritarian.
We'll start a disinformation board.
We'll collaborate with Twitter trying to censor people off social media.
But as soon as you're like, hey, can we have an ID to vote?
Can we kick out illegals?
Well, now there's privacy concerns.
I'm just sorry.
I think that it's right that we should focus on making sure things don't go too far.
But the problem is so bad the other way right now.
We have to start making inroads and hopefully cooler heads prevail.
I mean, that's why when you say, okay, device name, it turns on because it's listening to you the whole time.
Exactly.
I was all about sending in the National Guard in 2020, day one of that riot.
I walked downstairs.
I was working with Tim Poole at the time.
I walked down.
I was like, bro, where's the National Guard?
And he was like, I don't know.
I don't know.
And then three days went by and I'm like, where's the fucking National Guard?
It was an, but the problem is that was a riot, an acute issue that could be dealt with and quelled.
This pulling people out of their houses and evicting, like getting illegal immigrants out of here isn't an acute issue that can be like tamped down overnight or in four days with the National Guard.
It's like a chronic situation that could take seven years.
So I don't want National Guard flooding city streets.
Cam, and they get the shit beat out of them, right?
And the local police, what was the woman, the one woman, this was a couple months ago.
She gets smacked in the face with like a flag, right?
And she follows the woman that hit her and she gets a cop.
It's like, here, right here.
And the cop talks to her and she starts screeching, ah, I'm underage.
Let me out.
And the cop just lets her go.
And it's like, at some point, if law enforcement doesn't act, here's what's going to happen.
And I predicted this before Rittenhouse.
What happens is, if you say, listen, here's the deal.
The left gets the right with impunity.
Local police stand down and we don't want the feds to go in and do it.
People are going to take matters into their own hand.
They're going to say, okay, we're going to see roof Koreans.
You're going to see people that are like, that's it.
We're not going to be intimidated.
So we'll take to the streets ourselves.
Now you got a real problem.
Now all of a sudden, it's like we got a situation where a group of pro-ICE people are going to be like, then we'll go out in the streets and we'll stop them.
And unfortunately, from that perspective, because the left has won the culture war for so long, the right can't get away with that.
They'll bring the hammer down on the right as soon as you try to do that.
So we're in this weird position where the best case scenario, I think, even from a libertarian perspective, is to say law enforcement must step in right now.
And if the local law enforcement's unwilling to do it, then the next next thing is to declare the Insurrection Act and protect our ICE officers.
If you don't like the deportations, then go vote.
But right now, we voted.
And by the way, also to your point in the PR point, consistently, Trump polls lower than his right-wing positions.
So in other words, mass deportations are more popular than Trump right now.
And so I think Trump's team's telling him, like, well, we have to back off from some of this because, you know, we're going to lose the midterms.
I think the truth's the opposite.
I think if he would go more in and to paint in these things, that you would actually see more support for him.
Yeah, Biden made fun of him, told him to go back to his bunker and all that stuff.
You want to know why that they didn't get into the White House?
Because everybody knew.
I knew it.
You knew it.
Every single Secret Service agents knew it.
All the law enforcement know the left's going to riot.
They're going to riot.
And with January 6th, they didn't expect that.
Now, I think that they intentionally set it up.
But it's so ubiquitous with the left.
We're like, of course, they're going to riot.
Of course.
We've just come to accept it.
And so at this point, it's just like, man, we're not even upset about it because, yeah, that's what the left does.
They just riot every time they feel like it.
So sure, there'll be law enforcement there.
They can protect the president.
But other than that, they're just going to run rampant through the streets of D.C. or Portland or Seattle or wherever.
And I'm sorry, at some point, people are losing faith in our legal system where they could look out and they could see this happen over and over and over again.
Meanwhile, we live in this anarcho-tyranny where if you get a speeding, you go ahead.
If you don't like what your local government's doing, ram your car into them.
Where are the voices on the left going, you know what?
Maybe we should stop our people from attacking ICE.
Maybe we should stop people like Larry Krasner, who's the like AG or whatever, the DA in Philadelphia.
That's like, we're going to go after every ICE agent with Nuremberg type trials.
We're going to unmask you all afterwards.
There's like you put them in this untenable situation where it's like, hey, if you do this work that the people voted for, lefties are going to hunt you down and hunt your family down, right?
And the politicians and left are going to basically pay lip service.
They won't say be violent, but they're going to say, oh, you'll never work in California again if you work for ICE.
Oh, we'll find out who you are.
Oh, we're going to go after you with Nuremberg trials.
Like, we're in this situation where it's like all of the problems are starting because we've allowed the left to be violent thugs and no one will call it out.
They're just like, well, we don't like the symptom.
We don't like the fact that now they're wearing masks.
They wouldn't have to wear masks if the left didn't get away with riding with impunity over and over.
Oh, we can just laugh at them because they're silly.
They're stupid, weak soy boys, blah, With no action.
Yeah, that's not working.
You can't just laugh at them.
We have to take actual action here.
And if we don't take action here and the administration doesn't take action here, they're going to continue and they're going to win this overwhelmingly.
Yeah, there's no voices on the left because this is what they want to.
See, I mean, they literally, you know, and there's a lot of low information people on the left.
I get it because they're like, oh, you know, we like brown people and oh, you know, tears for brown people or whatever.
But you have, you know, the people that are actually doing these actions admit this stuff.
I mean, we saw it in Minnesota where they were going after the hotels.
They were working with local businesses to figure out where ICE was staying, what they were doing, the rental car places that were giving them the cars.
We have, lest we forget Charlie Kirk being assassinated, two assassination attempts against Donald Trump.
He had Kavanaugh, a would-be assassin, go into his house.
Just the other day, we had OMB Russ Vought.
Someone was arrested outside of his house that was screaming about Project 2025 that was apparently trying to take his life.
Right.
Now imagine that you saw Charlie Kirk happen and the paper of record, the New York Times, comes out the next day within 24 hours and puts out an article that they then had to put a retraction at the bottom of 24 hours later.
And it says, yesterday's clip said that Charlie Kirk had said some anti-Semitic things on his channel.
Well, this is true.
He was quoting someone else and then rebutting it, right?
Almost ubiquitously, the Democrats came out and were like, well, Charlie's a fascist, basically wink, wink, nudge, nudge.
He had it coming.
Then what do they call ICE?
Well, you're a fascist too.
And we're going to unmask you and we're going to come for you.
Knowing full well that they're stormtroopers, just like the people you saw over social media making fun of Charlie Kirk dying and saying more people should deserve it.
All these ICE people see this.
You see it.
You see the mass movement of the people calling for your head.
And then when you look and you see what the mainstream narrative is with the Democratic Party, you're basically getting wink, wink, nudge, nudge.
Yeah, we're coming for you.
And so the entire point is we want you unmasked.
We want you fearful because we want to intimidate law enforcement to not take action when we aren't in power.
Again, this is one of the specific points in the letter that went out by Senate Majority Leader Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries.
I won't negotiate the individual points from the podium, but it is obviously something the White House will be discussing with lawmakers on Capitol Hill in the coming days.
Is the administration concerned that the shake-up that we're seeing of DHS activity in Minneapolis could potentially embolden different obstructionist protesters around the country as they now have a playbook on how to get ICE out of their cities?
No, because what you saw yesterday with the drawdown of 700 agents only occurred because the condition that the president of the United States set for local states, local counties to turn over illegal aliens to ICE has been met.
And as for the left-wing agitators who have been illegally obstructing ICE's immigration efforts, we are not letting that behavior go unnoticed or unpunished.
In fact, just today, the Department of Homeland Security arrested this individual.
He is a self-proclaimed Antifa member who has been threatening, doxing, harassing ICE.
He called for the murder of federal law enforcement officers.
He encouraged bloodshed in the streets of Minnesota.
He proudly acclaimed affiliation with the domestic terrorist organization, Antifa.
And the Department of Justice, thanks to the great work of HSI and the FBI, were able to locate and arrest this individual today.
So what we are hearing on the ground and from the leftists is that, you know, the ICE presence and the deportations and stuff are still going on and are just as strong as before this, the quote-unquote standdown order.
And the idea that Homan going in, you know, doing what he did was just to kind of get the PR, the public to kind of lull back to sleep and forget about it and maybe talk about, you know, Obama monkey videos or whatever.
So like, I guess I'll throw that caveat in there to you guys.
I mean, as far as like playing devil's advocate, what do you think?
If that was their strategy, you know, is this, is this a small thing?
Deportations were going on under Biden at these facilities.
They didn't care.
It has nothing to do with that.
It has to do with get the fascist and get the fascists out.
What that reporter asked was a brilliant question.
He puts it back on them.
He says, look, if it's the case that now, now that they have a playbook and they can prove, it's proven to work that if they agitate enough, you will do a drawdown because you're going to make a deal.
You've given them all the leverage.
Now, Trump's supposed to be the master of the art of the deal.
So how's that a good deal?
You don't give the leverage over to the domestic terrorists.
The reality is less important than the perception here, right?
Because right now, if you're a person considering going on the street and rioting in, say, Portland or Atlanta, any city, right?
You're like, well, did it work?
Am I going to get in trouble?
Did it work?
Most of them are getting away with this with impunity.
I could show you video after video of CBP and ICE pulling people over for obstructing them and saying, okay, you need to go home now.
Every single one of those people that you let go is a riot that's occurring in the future because people are emboldened by the fact that they're able to obstruct basically with impunity.
Sure, we got the worst of the worst, and that's good.
At least that's if we assume that's what they did.
Nonetheless, you should be going after all these people.
So, what happens is the perception, even if you're right, even if you're right, it's like, yeah, but this is really all they wanted.
And let's be honest, I think at least with us three, maybe you as well, Ian, I don't know.
Trump's not as hardlined on immigration as we are.
I want them all gone, all of them.
I used to have a big heart, no more.
Trump's out there saying, Well, we're just going to get the worst of the worst.
No, take them all.
But let's assume that's not the case and they just want the worst to the worst.
Could this be seen as a victory?
Maybe.
But perceptually, what it looks like is you negotiated with terrorists.
And when you do that, the terrorists say, Oh boy, all we have to do is keep using this playbook over and over.
So for me, this is just going to ensure, as you said, we're going to have Several Love 2.0.
We're going to see riots all over the country when the weather gets better.
Listen, anyone that turned me on this show, I literally want checkpoints out there.
I want in West Virginia, they stop to do these checkpoints for like sobriety where they'll pull people over and they check and see, are you drunk or whatever?
Why aren't we doing that for citizenship?
Like, why, you know, I was, oh, there'll be the Gestapo that's optically terrible.
Like, why can't we do that?
We could do that if someone's drunk, but not if they're a citizen.
They create the problem and then say you have to go to them to solve it.
So they create the problem of sort of pushing this materialistic worldview that basically encourages feminism for women to not want to be mothers anymore.
Then that puts women in the workforce, what makes it very unaffordable to have children.
And then after all that, they're like, oh, shucks, we're not having enough kids.
Now we have to import third world immigrants, which, by the way, happened to be our globalist agenda in the first place.
So, you know, for me, I think that there is a way in the short term to keep immigrants or have people go home and then bring the ones back based on a merit-based system that we need.
But I think the case is overstated.
Look at all the problems that are coming.
If you watched Besson the other day talk in front of Congress, he was like, Look, we're going to start to see rent prices and home prices go down.
Why?
Because hundreds of thousands of people, if not millions, that we're kicking out, that were competing and increasing the demand for those housing things.
Young people right now can't afford houses.
And we're telling them, well, listen, sorry, we got to mass bring in people from India and illegal immigrants, et cetera, that are going to be these homeowners and rent all of this.
I don't care about GDP to the extent that that means that a bunch of people get wealthy that weren't in this country in the first place.
Why don't I care about my neighbor that's a citizen and his fortunes?
I don't care your skin color or any of that, but I care about that person, not, well, hey, that person's unemployed now because we brought some dude in from India or some illegal migrant came over and does that job for $5 less.
But what we're getting at here in the critical issue, kind of to move it back to this, if we had, if we, if we had a choice, if we had the choice right now, Trump send in the stormtroopers now, lock it all down now, nationwide, before there even is signs of a protest.
I don't want them to like, all right, I'm not so hardlined that I want them to be like, man, Baton Rouge.
Let's send the Marines to Baton Rouge right now because maybe there'll be a riot.
What I'm saying is it is entirely predictable the areas that aren't cooperating and having law enforcement standing down.
And the point's not to have the Marines in there enforcing the law.
The point is to create law and order, right?
That we're going to have a show of force that will prevent the necessity for Border Patrol to have a situation like Alex Freddy.
Border Patrol should not be in the business of having to try to deport illegals while simultaneously protecting themselves from people that are using an app to instruct people how to create flashpoints and obstruct them.
Now, if anything, remember, there were people arrested on January 6th that never entered the Capitol that weren't even there that day, but they went through their Telegram messages and other things and said, we think this is a big conspiracy, you know, in order to have an insurrection.
We are literally talking about signal apps that are giving people instructions on how to create altercations with law enforcement.
That, like, you talk to your normie friend, they're like, oh, that Alex Preddy shooting was bad.
And you're like, yeah, but you don't see what's happening every single day.
Every single day.
Like, they're creating this.
You literally, if you're in an Uber there, did you see this video the other day?
The guy had an Uber driver.
He was like, I think from the Blaze or something.
And his Uber driver was like, you know, look to be of African descent.
And like they run his plate and they're like, we have you with ICE, but clearly you're not.
Yeah, because you're an actor.
Like it is the idea.
And it builds a rage in me and I'm assuming a bunch of other people where it's like, why do we have to accept these losers having authority over us?
Screw that.
None of us voted for that.
It's outrageous.
And at some point, you're going to see more and more conflicts.
So for me, it's not an escalation.
It's a de-escalation to be like, look, if law enforcement's not going to do their job protecting, it's an unfair burden to put on ICE and CBP to carry out their duties and protect themselves from left-wing mobs.
So we're going to put a show of force around them to let them go do their jobs, not to be aggressive.
We don't want the Marines out there arresting people for, you know, like speeding violations, but they should be there as a protective force.
If you're going to riot, then we're going to send in, we're going to declare the insurrection.
And by the way, you can do this at federal buildings now.
Yeah.
Those are federal buildings.
There's no reason why you can't deploy only to the federal buildings.
But what they're saying is, no, we don't want even troops at the federal buildings.
And it's like, no, he has the authority to do that.
And he's always had the authority to do that.
They can lock their own federal buildings down.
That's where the points always will be.
So they're always going to march to the streets and end at those federal buildings, or they're going to start at the federal buildings, march around and end back at the federal building.
So I don't know why not preemptively lock them down during the winter, right?
let's play that funds in addition to helping support criminal and civil enforcement efforts the irs will also soon announce the formation of a task force as civil enforcement is auditing financial institutions that facilitated the laundering of minnesota funds in addition to helping support criminal and civil enforcement efforts you Is that a deep fake?
I mean, this is the same organization that lost to Scientology in the 90s because they were killing their dogs and like going in their houses and stuff.
The problem with these executive agencies is right.
Remember Lois Lerner at the IRS when they were targeting the conservative groups?
Everybody's like, well, did Obama sit her down?
And like, hey, you know what we should do?
No, because what happens is the left has embraced this idea that they are morally superior.
And so no one needs to say a word.
The ends always justify the means.
So whatever position you're put into in the executive branch, great.
Go ahead and abuse that in order to justify your means.
Because after all, Obama's great, right?
Biden's great.
Kamala's great.
And the other people's evil.
So do whatever you want.
So yeah, I mean, even if you have people running the IRS that are stretching for this, will the on-the-ground agents, many of which are going to be radical lefties, which is why they got in the government position in the first place, are they going to enforce it?
I don't know.
But the other side to that, though, is this is exactly what we should be doing.
You could play whack-a-mole with the, you know, street communist psychopaths that are out there half them LARPing, and it's not going to put that much of a debt.
But if you start going after the actual people that are funding them, now all of a sudden you'll start to see results.
Well, it would be premature to say, yes, I think that is true, but damn, that's, I cannot discount that that is possible.
I think about it with the Epstein stuff, too.
I feel like that's a federal red herring that they want us to all complain and laugh while they're preparing for war in Iran and crashing the U.S. economy and getting us on crypto or gold.
The most exciting part of the Trump administration was Doge, right?
And they absolutely nailed it.
You know, I know he's been on the show before, but Mike Benz, he's been on a tear here talking about like the EU, right, and their censorship efforts of X.
But one of the things he talks about is how the United States, through cutouts, like the Atlantic Council and other NGOs, are actually sort of pressuring the European Union to censor X so that it could censor Americans, right?
It's the same thing with the rest of these NGOs.
That's what they're talking about with the IRS, going after, it's like you set up this cutout, right?
Like, I don't think it's any surprise that the IRS has tools and the ability and the want to audit the shit out of people, right?
And so when you have an organization that is geared on investigating finances, the idea that we wouldn't use those tools to save billions upon billions of dollars that's being used fraudulently seems to be ridiculous.
Now, do I want the IRS to like develop new like, you know, telepathic powers or some shit or whatever, you know, some crazy tech power?
Maybe not.
But I think utilizing the IRS when there's clearly things that are going wrong.
I mean, after all, how'd they get out Capone?
Right?
Tax evasion.
So the idea, it's like, look, if one of the ways we could get these people is to show that through their fraud that they're supporting these financial institutions, there are problems that showed up on their taxes.
Well, this is not my position, Andrew, but yeah, this was the opposition.
This is 100% my position That they would, you know, they would disrupt with working with Walt, like they would disrupt the left and now the left going after Walt is kind of what the idea of them with the stand down or whatever you want to call it, like to kind of start that.
I think we're just speculating, but it'd be nice to hear from him because it appears that way.
You know, having ICE show up to the government center and arrest two people that were meeting with their attorneys yesterday is a completely escalation, in my opinion.
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And in your opinion, what can he do to mend what has been broken right now to make things right?
The tactic here being that if in any way, shape, or form, you're not doing what this lunatic base that you have molded for yourself wants, they're going to turn against you, which gives every incentive for those particular politicians to enact their insane agenda.
And this is exactly what we're supposed to be doing on our side with the Trump administration, saying the exact same thing that they're saying.
I hope it's because they're going after the money.
I hope that's why, and that they don't want to create ill will, bad optics, another riot in the street because they arrested 19-foot soldiers that didn't know what the, and they're really time.
I hope that they're really going through records and chat rooms and looking for funding.
I was talking to him on the phone the other day, and he's sort of talking about, you know, behind the scenes trying to whip up organization or Republicans for causes.
And he's like, he's telling me this story once.
He's like, Democrats in this particular area, I can't remember because I have a bad memory, but he's like, they primarily this dude that voted 95% of what this organization wanted.
And the dude getting primarily like, why are you doing that?
I vote 95% with you.
And they're like, because you don't vote 100%.
That's their mentality.
It's like, no, we don't care.
The person that's doing 95% of what we like, that's where we're going to put the most pressure because we know that's a person that's willing to listen to us.
They know that at this point, Walls is absolutely beholden to them.
And so if he doesn't toe the line, any bit of capitulation on their part, they're going to say his weakness.
So we need to go further.
Meanwhile, on our side, and I know you deal with this, Andrew, how many times do you have people on our own side saying, well, you can't criticize Trump?
You can't criticize the Republicans because we all need to coalesce.
I agree in the importance of coalescing, but we have a unique opportunity to tell the people we elect, this is why you should carry out the promises that you claimed when you ran.
There's another story here about a dog casting its ballot.
It's pretty interesting.
This coming in from Shiloh Marks, California resident, Laura Urix, report self-reported that she had registered her dog to vote and had, in fact, cast a mail-in ballot on behalf of her dog.
She did this to expose the corrupt election system, and she was brilliant for this.
Costa Mesa woman charged with five felonies for illegally registering her dog to vote, casting mail-in ballots sent to dog into elections.
Costa Mesa woman has been charged with five felonies for legally registering her dog to vote.
In the 2021 California gubernatorial recall election and the 2022 primary election, the dog's vote was successfully counted in 2021, but was rejected in the 2022 primary.
Laura Lee Urix, 62 of Costa Mesa, has been charged with one felony count of perjury, one felony count of procuring or offering a false or forged document to be filed, two felony counts of casting a ballot when not entitled to vote, and one felony count of registering a non-existent person to vote.
Urix is scheduled to be arraigned at the Stephen K. Tamura West Justice Center in Westminster September 9th of 2025 in Department.
Okay, gotcha.
So walk me through this, Rob.
The dogs can vote, but isn't this the system working?
Tell Chuck Choe, now we're taking away dogs' rights to vote.
Absolutely outrageous.
Yeah, I mean, of course they'll throw the book at this lady.
What was the woman?
I forget what state it was, but they threw the book at her for like trying to get the like, you know, proof of the ballots.
They were like, oh, you can't do that.
The left is intentionally making elections inauditable.
And there's only one reason to do that because you want the cheating.
That's why they don't want the idea.
That's why they, oh, oopsie, we lost the ballots.
Oops, we lost the video tape.
Remember how they were supposed to, like, in all these states legally when they started to do the mail-in ballots and you had these drop boxes, you legally had to have like cameras watching.
Oops, all the camera footage, so much of it disappeared.
You know, here, okay, they caught one lady, right?
Because probably, you know, she voted Republican.
If it was a left-winger, they'd have been like, eh, forget about that.
Yeah, well, it turns out that McCarthy was largely right.
As far as the idea, I'm not a good reader of that era, so I'm not sure if there were people rioting, but it certainly with Weather Underground and stuff you saw into the 70s was absolutely bombings.
So seeing how far gone France and Britain are, along with everything the left has done across the West, do you think Western civilization still has a chance, Rob?
And again, I'm sympathetic to the people that are like Trump needs to do more.
I am.
And I certainly criticize.
But my goodness, what are the Republicans doing?
What are they doing in the House and Senate?
You'd be forgiven for not thinking that they didn't have control.
And here's the dirty secret.
The reason they don't want to end the filibuster is because if they did, then the American people would see, actually, we're not on board with Trump's agenda.
Right now, they could hide behind it.
Well, we need 60 votes.
So what can we do?
They don't want voter ID.
They don't want to enshrine Trump's executive orders to secure the border.
Well, and I also saw this spray, and there's like video of this where it's like this orange spray where you can like go in the crowds and you spray it on them, and they're like, People can't stand it, and they start throwing up and stuff.
And the self-deportations, which is actually arguably more important.
And that's why it's important.
I think Trump makes this strategic mistake where he's like, we're just going after the worst of the worst.
No, you should randomly be going after the ones that aren't the worst to send a signal to everyone.
None of you are safe.
My recommendation: if you're an illegal, I'll look at the game.
If you're an illegal, here's what you do.
Any day now, you could be rounded up like that, and your whole life could be turned on its head.
So take that thousand dollars, make plans, and get the hell out of the country.
So that'd be the best case scenario.
But yeah, we need more deportations, and sadly, we probably won't get those numbers, but still, it's much better than it would have been the alternative.
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Opposition, the American Kennel Club, the AKC, and other groups are actively campaigning against the petition, urging voters not to sign it.
It's currently in the signature gathering phase for November 2026.
And also the show of force isn't just for the hardcore.
Obviously, the hardcores are going to do what they're going to do, but we're seeing middle schoolers out there now, like literal middle schoolers and high schoolers.
Like it's gotten so crazy that we've allowed this that literally anyone thinks they can get into it.
So it's like, you know, once you start pushing back the normies, the hardcore people are still going to be hardcore, whatever, you know, go after their funding.
But like the George Floyd, how long did that name resonate?
Now, now we got Alex Preddy and Renee Good.
Look at the propaganda push.
Everyone, you know, in Hollywood, they're all pushing the same thing.
And I just don't know if it's resonating with the normies.
I think they're over it.
I think most people are like, we are tired of the riots.
We're tired of it in 2020.
We got locked down while they were allowed to go out with impunity and we're not putting up with it again.
So if there was a push to be more aggressive with a restrained hand, I guess, Ian, and then also push out this PR, I think that it's actually a positive move for Trump and go after the funders and stuff.
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Yeah, I mean, this is something you saw with the, remember there was investigations, Crossfire Hurricane, and the mid-year exam into Trump and Hillary at the same time.
With Trump, this is the plan.
All the lefty is getting.
Get the low-level people, get them to flip.
With Hillary, it was let's give everyone immunity.
So, yeah, absolutely.
It's effective.
Throw the book at these people and say, hey, unless you got some names, where did you get the organization?