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TPUSA Halftime HITS NUMBER ONE | Timcast IRL #1445 w/ Scott Greer

Scott Greer’s White Pill examines how Turning Point USA’s halftime show—26–27M online viewers, 46M+ U.S. households—outperformed Bad Bunny’s divisive Super Bowl spectacle, which relied on passive exposure and political messaging. The episode critiques Gene Wu’s offensive "shared oppressor" claim, dissects Jeffrey Epstein’s suspicious 2019 press release timing, and mocks viral trends like "Clavicular" gooning while debating media-driven identity politics. Ultimately, it argues TPUSA’s grassroots engagement reflects authentic conservative values, contrasting with the NFL’s alienating, performative wokeness. [Automatically generated summary]

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Major Announcement Revealed 00:03:38
tim pool
The Turning Point halftime show is now officially the biggest U.S. live stream on YouTube ever.
The current numbers are around 26, 27 million total viewers online.
Peak concurrent viewership was somewhere around 10 million.
And the true household viewership, it was about half of the Super Bowl.
We're seeing all these numbers.
They're saying, yeah, but Bad Bunny got 133.5 million.
Okay, there is a big problem with those metrics.
We'll get into all that during the show.
But true household viewership, obviously, half the country is not watching this.
It's around 46 or so million.
A little bit more than, well, a little bit less than half.
Or actually, wait, a little bit more than half is what Turning Point USA got.
So this is pretty big.
There's a lot of cultural implications to this.
And some people are saying it's like the Bud Light moment.
No, seriously, there are people likening it to the engagement during Bud Light and the negative repercussions that will come from it.
And so, the question is: what happens next year?
Does the NFL fall in line or does Turning Point USA just end up having a new yearly show with better production?
We'll talk about that.
There's actually a lot of other news to get into, but that's the dominating news story.
There's a really interesting story that I'm really excited to talk about, and that is a press release which was drafted a day before Epstein died saying that he died.
And I have questions about how you accidentally type out Friday, August 9th, 2019.
That doesn't seem like a typo.
And you wouldn't need a press release well after the guy died.
So it's a very interesting story.
We'll talk about that.
Post a whole lot more.
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Bowl Commercials Reach Millions 00:10:16
tim pool
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Scott Greer.
scott greer
Thanks for having me on.
tim pool
Hey, anytime, brother.
What are you?
Who are you?
What do you do?
scott greer
I am a writer, podcaster, and author.
I run the highly respected substack at highly-respected.com.
And I have a new book coming out in the summer called White Pill: The Online Right and the Making of Trump's America.
So get and pre-order that if you have the chance.
tim pool
Right on.
A lot's hanging out.
elad eliahu
Good evening, everybody.
I am Alad Eliyahu, the White House correspondent here at Tim Cast.
Good to be back on.
I wasn't sure I'd ever be on IRL again, but I'm glad I am.
Phil, how's it going?
phil labonte
Got my hopes up.
Hello, everybody.
My name is Phil Abonji.
I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band, all that remains of an anti-communist and counter-revolutionary.
Let's get into it.
tim pool
Here's the big story from the post-millennial: TPUSA's all-American halftime show becomes highest-watched U.S. YouTube live stream with 6.17 million concurrent viewers.
This is massive.
And it was not just that 6.17 million.
That's the single channel number.
When you combine the total concurrent viewership, it actually rivals some of the biggest live streams ever done.
Now, of course, you may be saying, well, hold on.
There's got to be some bigger streams.
That's a lot of people.
At soccer, you know, internationally does really well.
For the United States, this is the biggest YouTube's ever seen.
And if you combine the not using the Rumble numbers, but if you're saying just on YouTube, I think it's around like 9.5-ish.
I think there's about 300 or 400,000 on Rumble and turned to be a couple million.
So this is tremendous.
And this massive cultural implications.
So we have the latest numbers here.
You've got 20,556,336 on the Turning Point channel.
You've got Charlie Kirk's show channel with 3,883,221.
And then on Rumble, of course, you've got 2.26 million.
So big numbers, smashing success.
Phil, you were saying a moment ago that the total household viewership for the Super Bowl was something like 46 million.
phil labonte
Yeah, from Samba TV, from at Samba underscore TV, 48.6 million U.S. households watched the 2026 Super Bowl, down 13% from 2025.
26.5 million U.S. households watched the Bad Bunny halftime show, down 39% from Kendrick Lamar.
tim pool
When was Kendrick Lamar?
phil labonte
It doesn't say.
Let me see if I can find it.
tim pool
Let's Google that.
phil labonte
But, you know, it's worth noting that as much as people are talking about this was the biggest ever, et cetera, even if people were sitting in the room.
tim pool
That was last year.
phil labonte
Yeah, that was.
tim pool
What was a 39% drop?
phil labonte
Yeah, 39% from Kendrick Lamar.
Kendrick Lamar.
I didn't realize it was such a, the, that Kendrick Lamar was as famous as he is.
I'd heard of him.
I knew his stuff, but I didn't realize he was as pervasive as he is.
Yeah, I didn't know.
But look, I mean, people are talking about the Bad Bunny halftime show as if it's some big, huge thing.
There was a lot of viewers.
I don't think there were that many people, or I don't think that that was representative of how many people were actually paying attention.
tim pool
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
This means, this is big.
If these numbers are correct, this means that they beat that Turning Point beat Bad Bunny.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Are these correct?
phil labonte
This is from Samba TV.
Their bio says we create that at the TV.
elad eliahu
How much does Bad Bunny's record on YouTube have?
Because I think they're just using household numbers through cable.
tim pool
Yes, but that's so here's the important thing to understand.
Let me jump to this from the New York Times.
They say Turning Point USA's All-American halftime show draws 6.1 million concurrent viewers on YouTube.
And notice they don't include the 6.17 because you could round it up to 6.2 or just say 6.17.
And that's significant because the 6.15 was the previous second biggest YouTube stream ever.
And then the first biggest was an Indian from India, Lunar Rover Lander.
And that is 8 million.
So this at 6.17 becomes the second biggest YouTube stream ever.
And it becomes the biggest in the U.S.
It's probably why the New York Times didn't include that little number because I know it's only a little bit.
But they say, well, Turning Point USA drew over 6 million concurrents on YouTube.
The television audience for the Bad Bunny halftime show is expected to be much larger.
Last year, Kendrick Lamar's halftime concert drew 133.5 million views, the most for any Super Bowl halftime show.
So here's the funny thing: concurrent viewership compared to total views.
Do you see how they lie to you?
This is a lie.
Concurrent viewership right now, I mean, on YouTube, we've got, I don't know, 15,000 or something, 15,000 on YouTube.
And then on Rumble, we've got, let's just do the mail quickly.
We got 13,000.
That is not the full viewership of the show.
And that's a ridiculous manipulation.
That's the game they're playing.
So people are now claiming that Bad Bunny reached that many individuals.
The important thing to understand, and this is how they lie to you, okay?
Let me tell you, there's a reason why people buy bots and they buy followers because, You know, I don't even know if it matters or works anymore because the industry is not going to play this game.
Or I don't know, maybe young people will play this game.
But you go to a boomer who runs media and they fall for this stuff, hook, line, and sinker.
They don't understand.
And the Gen Z guys and gals flood the numbers and it works.
There are some shows that I won't name the individual involved who are accused of being fake with fake followers.
And they send out cold calls, cold emails, saying, You should come on our podcast.
We've got X amount of followers.
And then when the person responds with yes, they go, That'll be $10,000.
And you know what happens is this 50-year-old marketing staffer or booker for a boomer celebrity says, You really should do this.
That's a younger crowd.
And they fall for this stuff.
So here's the important thing to understand.
Let's say that Bad Bunny reached, I mean, these numbers are apocalyptic.
If this is true, this is miserably bad, which is why I find it so hard to believe.
26.5 million U.S. households actually make sense.
When people were saying 134 million, I was like, that's wild.
That includes international households.
48.6 million households watching the Super Bowl makes a lot of sense.
It's a comparable number.
Not everybody watches Super Bowl.
It's a big show.
I think usually the ratings are in like the 20 to 30 million or something like that in recent history.
So this makes sense.
And what you got to understand, a lot of people when it comes to households aren't actually watching.
Streams, they are.
Streams can be botted.
I don't think Turning Point botted because it would be ineffective.
The amount of money they have to spend to bot up to 10 million concurrence would, I don't even know if they have the, I don't even know if they have the botnets to do that.
Seriously, I don't, I mean, 50,000, 100,000, maybe they'd have to commandeer like the entire botnet industry, which makes no sense, especially considering it's Kid Rock and it's Turning Point.
People hate watch this stuff.
So what happens is they will just say a number.
But here's the important cultural distinction.
First, let me just say it appears that Kid Rock, Turning Point USA, absolutely trounced the halftime show.
The difference between the two is that the 27 million people who watched the Turning Point halftime show sought it out.
And the 26.5 million households passively listened.
I will stress the number of total people exposed to Bad Bunny is probably substantially greater.
I was hanging out at the MGM National Harbor.
They got a big sports book and there's everybody standing around.
So these people are not paying attention.
But based on licenses, they're going to calculate total capacity of this venue is 30,000.
The TVs were on in every corner of the building.
We're going to add that number.
And they do this across the country.
Bro, let me just tell you.
Let me ask you the basic question.
If you were selling a product, if you were trying to sell me some delicious pool water, would you prefer, I'll give you a choice, 10 people who will walk past you as you hold the bottle or one person who is coming to you to buy the bottle.
Which would you pick?
scott greer
Obviously, the one person.
tim pool
Yeah, you can roll the dice on a 10X.
Maybe they'll want my bottle of water and I can talk them into it.
Or you take the guaranteed sale.
You always take the win.
So there is a massive value.
If the number is true, they said he reached 134 million.
That clearly is, I don't believe that's correct.
Then, well, that's great.
A lot of people have heard of Bad Bunny and that's what they're trying to do.
But Kid Rock and Turning Point, people are actively seeking out.
So let me put it like this: for the Super Bowl commercials.
You are an advertiser who's buying the bump right before the show or after the show.
You find out tons of people cut off the show.
I mean, according to these numbers, around half of the people who watch Super Bowl stopped watching at the halftime show.
Why would you want to spend money on that Ed Spot?
You're probably going to be like, What's my, what's, what's my return?
There's two, there's two types of ads.
Well, there's more than two types of ads, but there's two big ad sectors.
Right now, uh, right now, and it's been the case for a while, but it's, it's, it's dominant right now, the way media works.
You've got generic advertising where Pepsi will go to a platform and say, here's $100 million, run our ads, thank you, have a nice day.
They don't care if it, if they get her ROI, they just want to be ubiquitous.
Then there's ads that require direct sales.
So, for instance, the sponsors we have on this show, when we do an ad read at the beginning of the show, if no one buys the product, they stop advertising because they don't have the insane budgets.
So, the Super Bowl has that for sure.
There's a lot of people who want Super Bowl commercials just to say they did.
And there's a lot of people who fake Super Bowl commercials where they're like, here's our commercial, but we got rejected.
If you spend 5 million bucks and then find out you lost half your value and people went to turning point, and next year Turning Point says, do your commercial with us instead, and we'll get you direct engagement, it's going to be very, very problematic for the NFL.
Turning Point USA's Grassroots Drive 00:15:06
phil labonte
Yep.
So, there's a couple things that I wanted to mention about this.
First of all, people don't realize there's only 560 million Spanish speakers in the world, and there's 1.5 billion English speakers, right?
Like, so I think that that matters.
Like, the idea of doing a Super Bowl halftime show in Spanish, I think that it was part of a broader attempt at basically subversion, right?
I think that the idea of the Super Bowl is that it's very much an all-American thing.
You saw people on X and consistently saying, Well, you know, it is American.
It's very American.
Puerto Rico's part of America.
It's American.
And the way that Bad Bunny, that one part of the performance, he had all these flags from all over South America.
And the point that he was actually trying to get across was North America and South America are America and that there shouldn't be borders.
This is a very subversive idea.
And it's something that the global left does frequently.
They say that, oh, it's one America, like all of America, North and South America.
That's very different from the United States of America.
When you say you're an American to someone else, if you're from the United States, you mean from the you're from the United States.
People from South America don't say, I'm an American when they're talking, especially if they're talking to someone from a different country, right?
So they're talking to someone from Europe, talking to someone from Switzerland.
They don't say, oh, I'm an American.
They would say, I'm from Ecuador.
They would say, I'm from Brazil.
So it's a really, and the fact that there's so many people on X that are pushing this narrative kind of shows how subversive it is, right?
They're trying to delegitimize the United States as an entity.
Well, yeah, no, and that's just one aspect of it.
So a lot like the Hill was saying that it was that bad, I think it was the Hill, and I might be wrong on that, but I saw a post from one of the news, you know, the legacy news industries.
They said that this was a performance without politics, right?
Which is totally, totally being part of the subversion.
They're engaging in the subversive effort there.
And then you get something like Jacobin or the DSA, and they come right out and say it.
They're post on X. They're like, this was political.
This is about how bad America is, et cetera.
And as much as I think it's a terrible thing, at least the DSA and Jacobin are honest about it.
tim pool
Yeah.
Well, the bad news for American conservatives who are celebrating this saying, look at our tremendous victory, is that you got kicked out.
phil labonte
Yep.
tim pool
You got kicked out and you're hanging out outside the arena with all of your old fans being like, wasn't our show better?
And they're inside the institution saying, we don't care what you guys are doing.
We have your castle.
They've stormed the castle, broken in, taken it over, kicked you out.
And conservatives are outside now celebrating their victory in the fields.
elad eliahu
Just to play a little bit of devil's advocate, I think Turning Point and in particular, Eric Kirk did like a fantastic job, a superb job offering.
Like conservatives often talk about like this parallel economy to like, don't give your money to people who obviously hate you.
And it's pretty clear that Bad Bunny and people associated with him hate conservatives and right-wingers in our country.
So they did an effective job at getting people to tune into something different.
And in the right wing, I actually think they flop when they try doing this very often.
There are people trying to make right-wing music or right-wing TV shows or right-wing companies that always flop.
But to have 20-plus million people tune in, I think it's an amazing thing.
I think it's worth mentioning too that this is like the first big thing that Turning Point has done in like the post-Charlie Kirk era.
And it's a triumph.
tim pool
It's massive.
elad eliahu
There's also one last thing.
Something to be said about all the desperate, pathetic vultures and unreliable narrators who just try to drag down Turning Point.
This is an amazing triumph, but still people online willing to say, oh, you know, this only got a couple of hundred thousand views or whatnot, or only a couple thousand concurrent viewers, and like are really just trying to advance any BS, no matter how wrong it may be, because of whatever beefs or gripes they have with Turning Point.
And it feels like a demoralization effort.
It's sad.
It's a sad state of affairs where we're at with that stuff.
This is an amazing job that Erica Kirk has done.
The parallel economy stuff.
It's the first time I've seen it done effectively on the right wing.
So like, really, good job in Kevin.
Kudos to her.
scott greer
You know, to go on on that point of the parallel economy and outside the castle, protesting the people inside, but that sends a message to the people in the castle.
And if they see a huge drop in the numbers from last year's halftime show, the Super Bowl and the NFL are going to realize they actually have to appeal to that conservative audience.
So the conservative audience is going to do their own thing and take viewers away to the Super Bowl.
Obviously, they're not going to take it away from the game, but they're going to take it away from the halftime show.
And it puts out a conservative culture of like, this is the culture we want to promote, and we're going to do a professional job about it.
I thought it was an incredible job.
It was very professional, state-of-the-art.
tim pool
And it was good.
And honestly, limited budget.
I was actually surprised.
When the halftime show is about to begin, I pulled up my phone and saw 3.4 million concurrent viewers, which is insane.
Tweeted about it.
And then it peaked around 6.17.
So, I don't want to just be Debbie Downer on this one.
Obviously, you're hit out of the castle.
I think it's an important point.
You need to understand where you're at.
The institution has been taken from you, but this is the move to get it back.
Because, like I was mentioning with advertisers, what happens when a company says, listen, you're asking me to pay you $5 million to hold up a sign in front of 26 million households as they walk by.
The commercials come on, everyone runs to the bathroom, they go to the kitchen, they grab snacks.
These are not people who are actively engaged with the promotion.
The commercials are kind of gags.
Everybody wants to watch the Super Bowl commercial.
In fact, some people watch it more for the commercials.
Then you've got 27 million people in short notice decided to tune in to Turning Point of their own volition.
So, again, if I'm selling delicious pool water and you said it's $5 million for 26 million households from the halftime show, I say, okay.
And then Turning Point says $5 million for our show where people have chosen to seek us out.
I say, okay, I want that because your engagement's going to be substantially higher.
Your conversions will be substantially higher and mission-driven.
The important thing you need to understand about what the pitfalls, the problems they're going to face is the Bad Bunny show was elitist-driven, and Turning Point USA is grassroots-driven.
So, with the NFL show, you have powerful elites saying, We want Bad Bunny either because we want to promote his music, we want an international audience, and because he pushes a political message that we like.
Regular people don't care, they are not driven to support that by some ideology.
Puerto Ricans, maybe.
So, I wouldn't be surprised if they killed it in the Puerto Rican households.
But with our members at Timcast.com, you know, Rumble Premium members, you've got mission-driven engagement.
These are people who are saying, I will pay $10 extra because it means so much more to me.
The people who are going to buy a product watching the Super Bowl, I saw a commercial for Vanda pharmaceuticals, I think it is.
They got those weird commercials.
And it was one of the creepiest commercials because it was just a white screen with their logo.
And people pointed out how creepy it was.
Yeah, I don't care about your company.
I've heard of it.
Congratulations.
I said your name.
I'm not going to buy your product.
I'm not going to ask my doctor about it.
But imagine, because I don't even know who sponsored Turning Point, but we know Turning Point as the principal name.
How many people signed up for Turning Point because of what they just did?
How much more money are they going to bring in?
I'd imagine a lot.
If Turning Point had a big sponsor promoting a product, I guarantee you, more people are going to be buying it because the product is supporting something they care about.
elad eliahu
I also kind of wanted to be concise.
I have my particular beefs with the Bad Bunny halftime show.
I didn't like that.
It was all in Spanish.
But all things considered, I think it was relatively tame because in other instances, Bad Bunny is a cross-dresser.
Bad Bunny bitches about ice.
But in the show, he didn't do any of the cross-dressing.
He had a message on the football, but it wasn't like F-Ice.
And he could have done a lot worse.
So all things considered, I think I was pissed that everything was in Spanish.
But another way to look at this, though, is that Bad Bunny's an American.
He's from Puerto Rico.
And he's the number one Spanish-speaking artist in the world.
So the number one Spanish-speaking artist is from America, is an American.
So this is the version of American Soft Power.
What are you confused about?
phil labonte
He's American.
I'm saying he's not an American.
tim pool
Yes, he is.
phil labonte
He's Puerto Rican.
I know that Puerto Rico is a U.S. territory.
If you were to ask Bad Bunny, Bad Bunny wouldn't say that he's an American.
elad eliahu
He's a citizen.
He would despite that.
phil labonte
He would say that he is a Puerto Rican.
He would not say that.
elad eliahu
Okay, he could be confused.
And he asked about his identity as an American.
tim pool
Let's just make something clear.
He is factually an American citizen.
He would probably argue, and that's proven because at the show, he carried the flag of Puerto Rican independence.
unidentified
Yeah, he passed.
scott greer
And he also listed Puerto Rico as separate from America because they all kept saying, like, Puerto Rico is part of America, but he's still a province.
No, but separate.
phil labonte
You're right.
But the point that I'm making is he does not consider himself an American.
The point of him having the Puerto Rican flag with the light blue is that it was the flag that was not the same as the American.
elad eliahu
They love to bitch and moan about their, they want to be independent.
They don't want to be independent.
They don't like being in American territory.
But here's the thing.
His experiences come from being an American.
And also, he speaks a version of Spanish that is actually a uniquely American version of Spanish.
His Puerto Rican Spanish, not all Hispanics could totally understand.
But this is actually a uniquely American artist.
And now America, an American, is the number one Hispanic artist in the Hispanic world.
I think there's something about the soft power that comes along with that.
tim pool
Your argument about Bad Bunny has an opinion doesn't change the fact that it's factually true.
elad eliahu
He's an American.
He grew up in an American territory.
phil labonte
I gave that, like, I consented to that part.
But the point that I'm making is he does not want to be an American.
He doesn't consider himself American.
And this is all totally a subversion tactic.
It's about being subversive.
He's about to be a bit of a bad person.
elad eliahu
I think it's very American.
It's very American to bitch about your country as an American.
tim pool
It's not subversive.
It's overt.
He literally said, God bless America, and then listed all of the countries of the continents.
phil labonte
Well, the reason I say it's subversion is because the average person doesn't pick up on that stuff.
The average football guy doesn't realize that what he's trying to do is subversion.
What he's trying to do is delegitimize the United States as a nation.
tim pool
We got to grab this tweet from Ryan Long.
He said, if I was running for president of a Latin country, my platform would be to bring the people a second drumbeat.
Dude, it's so true.
The videos of the Super Bowl during Bad Bunny's performance are creepy.
Have you seen?
There's a bunch of them.
Nobody knows him.
Nobody knows his music.
And I'm going to be honest with you guys.
Okay.
It's the craziest thing that I make a tweet where I'm like, yeah, the show's fine.
You know, whatever.
I'm not a big fan.
I understand it.
And all these liberals are like, the conservatives, they're freaking out.
They hate it so much.
And I'm like, oh, I think he's all right.
I don't know.
I'm like, he's a Latin rapper.
I'm like, he was always allowed to like that.
A lot of people speak Spanish.
I speak a little bit, but not really.
And you're allowed to like it.
You know, people will make fun of me for listening to like pop punk or something.
It's fine.
You know, Green Day sucks, but you got some other good bands.
And old Green Day was pretty good.
And I was always allowed.
The issue I have, okay, now that I've cleared the air, is that as somebody who doesn't speak that much Spanish, mi español, no es pueno.
It's muy mago.
Very small.
Unpuquito.
I can speak a little bit.
Not very good.
I can't understand a word of what is being said in any of his songs.
But here's what matters.
Despacito is one of the best songs ever written.
Everybody knows the melody, and you don't know the words, but you can get the melody going.
phil labonte
Fake your way through it.
tim pool
Yeah, you can fake.
I mean, to a Spanish speaker, you're saying gibberish.
You guys ever hear that song, Prince and Colonens and Iinchuso?
phil labonte
No.
tim pool
I don't know that.
phil labonte
Maybe I have, but I don't know it.
tim pool
Super famous song from Italy in the 70s where an Italian guy sang gibberish with an American accent.
And he says, this is how American music sounds to Italians.
And it was super popular.
I listened to Desposito, Gangnam style, the Macarena, and I'm like, these songs I know.
If they played Bohemian Rhapsody in Spanish, I could sing that.
I could sing it.
Not in Spanish, but I would know the song.
Every, every song from Bad Bunny was.
And I'm like, there's no melody to latch on to.
I don't know what he's saying.
phil labonte
He's like, I like that.
unidentified
You don't want to know what he's saying.
scott greer
A is in there.
tim pool
I like, I disagree with a lot of public enemies, political stuff, but I do agree with some of it.
And so it's really interesting to listen to some old school hip-hop rap public enemy stuff.
And you're like, hey, some of that's not bad.
We don't disagree on everything.
I do got an issue with the line where he says, Fair counts of profit that I think you ought to listen to.
Yeah, we don't really.
phil labonte
What you ought to do is follow for that.
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
It's a great song, but that one line.
phil labonte
Bring the noise, man.
Bring the noise.
I love that song.
tim pool
It's good.
It's great.
But I know what he's saying.
It's got melodic backdrops.
All the Bad Bunny stuff was same drumbeat and him just speaking Spanish.
And I was like, this doesn't, like, there's nothing for me to attach to.
And then when you watch the videos of it, the people in the stands are just standing there like, not really doing anything.
And so here's the point that I made.
The ultimate point.
You go to a bar.
I know you all know the answer to this.
What's the one?
You can go to a multicultural neighborhood in New York City.
And if you put on this one song, everyone will sing.
There's one song everyone will start singing if you turn it on.
phil labonte
Acknowledging Black?
unidentified
Nope.
elad eliahu
Billie Jean?
tim pool
Nope.
scott greer
The Macarena?
unidentified
Nope.
elad eliahu
Closing time?
phil labonte
Nope.
tim pool
You think some slice.
elad eliahu
Oh, that's his biggest song.
tim pool
Bohemian Rhapsody.
Oh, everybody knows it.
You go to a bar and you put on Bohemian Rhapsody, everyone's singing.
Bro, I was telling, I told the story this morning.
So the first story I love to tell is that we were at Long Shots just outside Charlestown.
It's a pool bar.
You should check it out.
And people of all different backgrounds.
I put on Bohemian Rhapsody.
Everybody starts singing.
Bohemian Rhapsody ends.
Then some random top 40 RB comes on.
Everybody stops, goes back to their business, and all you hear is muttering.
No one cares about the song anymore.
We were at a resort over the holiday, and I was in the hot tub with Richie Jackson, among others.
It's a great resort, Nama Kotlin.
Recommend it.
And Richie made a joke where he looked at one of our friends and said, Open your eyes.
And then I said, look up to the sky and see.
Instantly, everybody in the hot tub was singing Bohemian Rhapsody.
Common Enemy Unity 00:15:07
tim pool
Not even kidding.
Some guy with his kid, the lady in front of us.
Richie started singing it, and I was like, oh, what have I done?
But everybody, the point is, the halftime show should be something like that.
So they could have salvaged this with Bad Bunny if they had at least one other artist who was singing in English, something that they could understand, instead of just bubba bop up.
elad eliahu
The fact that it was exclusively in Spanish was kind of frustrating, like there was no English songs.
scott greer
Well, they did briefly have Lady Gaga to come out to sing in English, but it wasn't like a song that even most people would know and notice, and then it was so nobody noticed because it could have been the one.
Uh response to people, oh, you said it was all in Spanish, but what about the Lady Gaga part?
But no one remembered that and I think people are just wanting to say they liked, they thought this is the best halftime performance to own the Trump supporters, to own MAGA because it's meant as a middle finger to them and to say hey we're, this is our country now and we're gonna do what, we're gonna make it as unpleasant as possible for you and piss you off as much as possible and we love.
And then that's why they were so eager to mock the Maga or the turning point Usa Alternate halftime show.
They wanted to claim that they have a superior culture and they own it and the magazines have to deal with it.
tim pool
Speaking of that, let's jump to the story from the Postmillennial Texas Democrat.
Gene Wu says minorities can take over the?
U.s.
To make things fairer.
Oh yeah, here we go.
gene wu
I always tell people, the day the Latino African American, Asian and other communities realize that they are, that they share the same oppressor, is the day we start winning.
tim pool
Okay, but is he talking about white people or the Jews?
unidentified
Because we are the majority in this country, because we're all here.
We are we.
gene wu
We have the ability to take over this country and to do what is needed for everyone.
elad eliahu
Wait, why did he say the Jews were with him?
unidentified
But the?
tim pool
That's the point.
elad eliahu
Yeah, what the?
tim pool
I'm gonna play that again real quick.
I'm gonna play this again.
I want you to hear this.
gene wu
I always tell people, the day the Latino African American, Asian and other communities realize that they are, that they share the same oppressor, is the day we start winning, because we are the majority in this country.
Now we are we.
We have the ability to take over this country and to do what is needed for everyone and to make things fair.
But the problem is our communities are divided.
They're completely divided.
Um, and I talk about the.
tim pool
So I uh just want to say uh, Gene Wu, with the utmost of dissatisfaction, um, what you have said could not be more offensive and racist to I, a member of the other community which you have defined.
phil labonte
Gene's gonna call a Mexican a Puerto Rican, and then it's all, all hell is gonna break loose.
tim pool
I uh, I don't understand this guy thinking that it is inclusive in any way to refer to people as other.
It's like he's reading it off of a bureaucratic checklist.
The Latino, black, Asian, and other.
Other.
Thanks.
Yeah.
Appreciate it.
phil labonte
Yeah.
The point is, again, this is about demoralization.
This is about putting every racial identity that they can come up with against white people.
tim pool
But I think he's talking about the Jews.
phil labonte
He would want the Jews to align against the white people.
unidentified
I don't call that an anti-ethnic coalition, but I guess I don't even have that follow-up question.
tim pool
So listen, back during maybe 10 years ago, there was this pyramid that woke people made that showed, it was a pyramid of human little figures, and there were white people.
And then there were Asian people, and then there were Latinos, and then there were black people.
And they were talking about the hierarchy of oppression or something like that.
And then shortly after that was made, a new one was made with the pyramid and white people on top and something above it.
And do you know that something was?
What was it?
elad eliahu
It was my people.
Number one, baby.
tim pool
What was the specific symbol that was above the pyramid?
elad eliahu
It wasn't an Illuminati.
tim pool
It was a star of David.
elad eliahu
Star of David.
tim pool
And then they started sharing this.
And I think people need to understand that, you know, we were just talking about public enemy and Bring the Noise, great song, but it's got that line, Farrakhan's a prophet.
I think you ought to listen to.
Farrakhan hates the Jews.
I mean, that's the whole thing.
And so, you know, I've been in these riots.
I was when I was at the Baltimore riots during the, I think it was the Freddy, Freddie Gray, was that the riots?
They were all Muslim.
These young, these young black kids, they were Muslims.
And they were walking around saying, praise Allah.
And things like this is not an exaggeration.
And they hate the Jews.
And so you had that tablet magazine exposed on the women's march, where the leaders of the women's march reportedly had a meeting with one of their white liberal women organizers to explain to her how the Jews were responsible for everything.
Literally, not kidding this is maybe like six, seven years ago, and that they were responsible for the slave trade and all the world's wars and all these things.
So when you hear Gene Wu say all of these minorities share the same oppressor, I got to be honest, I don't know if he means white people or Jews.
elad eliahu
You know, it's just, it's really ironic.
I wish I could ask Mr. Wu who he thinks is attacking Asians on the street throughout New York City.
I want to ask him who he thinks were perpetrating crimes during the LA riots against the Korean community in California.
Who was it?
Who were the people perpetrating those crimes?
When Asians struggle to get into colleges now because of different, what is it, affirmative action standards that exist, who are we doing that to benefit?
It's not benefiting the Asians.
So who does that come at the expense of?
I think it's just a worthwhile thing because while he's trying to stir racial animus against white people, it seems as though different communities have stirred racial animus against them that he's willing to overlook.
Well, that's just not an unfortunate.
unidentified
I don't want to.
tim pool
This is the funny thing.
He says, we're the majority now, but our communities are divided.
And he is literally just saying people who aren't white are the majority, even though they're not the same group of people.
So I call this functional retardation.
That is an academic statement, not an insult.
I am literally saying he is a functional retard.
I mean that in the literal sense.
I'm not trying to insult the man.
I could call him other things.
He doesn't seem to understand the logic of we are the majority, but our communities are divided.
That would indicate that each of your communities are, in fact, separate and not the majority.
The math doesn't work out for you there, buddy.
scott greer
Yeah, to imply that they're a unified coalition with all the same interests, same characteristics, same values, which they don't have.
And I think even here he's probably referring to whites, but then if he was asked, he's like, oh, no, just the man, the government, or the system, he'd probably say some type.
And I saw progressives trying to defend it.
He's like, oh, this is totally misattributed.
This is totally taken out of context.
He didn't mean white people, but he clearly means white people here.
And he's clearly trying to call because he doesn't name any of the other communities of whites in his thing.
It's all non-whites.
And it's saying we need to join together.
But even at the end, he's like, well, we're just so divided.
I can't believe we can't unite against the common enemy.
And he hopes that the thing that can bring them all together is having a common enemy.
But they don't, not all these groups see the white man as a common enemy.
Maybe they see it as another minority group that they're having to live next to and that they're having crime go between.
phil labonte
I mean, to be honest with you, it's only leftists that see the white man as the enemy.
The left has decided that white people are the enemy.
Your average person that's not, you know, whatever race they are, black guy, Hispanic guy, that just wants to go to work and doesn't pay attention to this kind of stuff, they don't look at the white guy as the white man as the enemy.
They're just like, man, I'm just trying to go to work and pay my bills.
scott greer
You know, it's like Zoron.
You know, Zoron, his whole campaign message is everyone join together.
And he's talking about who built the city.
Whites not included.
It's all the other immigrant groups.
elad eliahu
You know, frankly, Asian is over-inclusive as well because Asians have oppressed other Asians more than a white, black, or Hispanic ever has.
I don't know if we're getting into the weeds about Asian culture, but guess what?
The Chinese and Japanese have a very rich history of killing each other and then oppressing the Koreans in between them.
tim pool
All my life, I was led to believe that I was 25% Korean.
And then I discovered, in fact, I am 5% Japanese.
And for anybody who knows the history of these two countries, the way that comes to be, Michael Malice goes, oh, that means it happened twice.
elad eliahu
So it's like, yeah, rise up so you could combat that same oppressor.
The oppressors here.
tim pool
You know what's really funny is that I get comments from Japanese people really mad that I bring that up.
elad eliahu
Yeah.
tim pool
Like, don't talk about that.
elad eliahu
Yeah, they get very sensitive.
They still revere their war criminals over there.
unidentified
Yeah, but it's still like Japan.
scott greer
But it's imagining that.
elad eliahu
Wait, but do you mind that they still revere the war criminals?
tim pool
Bro, I literally don't care.
Like, this is the craziest thing.
elad eliahu
You don't care.
phil labonte
No.
elad eliahu
But these are the rape of Name King people.
tim pool
Yeah, I don't care.
phil labonte
Like, you throw your bombs on them.
Dude, I'm fine.
unidentified
And they deserved it.
Yeah, yeah.
elad eliahu
You did that for the United States.
scott greer
Everyone against the Japanese.
tim pool
Let me tell you about being a sane, rational person.
And that is, I could be totally wrong about this, but because it's been a while since I talked to my mom about it, but I think it was my great-grandfather was from a part of Korea, which would now be North Korea.
At the time, it wasn't.
And he fled with my grandmother and came to the United States.
Now, because of the war, after the fact, I went to Seoul very easily.
I went to Korea and I milled about and I was like, what a cool place.
You know, hey, look at this, Korean food.
It's fantastic.
Not like I'm 100% or anything, but a quarter is pretty significant.
And, you know, my mom knew a few words and she cooked a few dishes, but you grew up in America.
I can't go to North Korea.
I can't see what those towns were like where part of my family came from.
I don't cry about it.
I don't hold rallies and seminars where I talk about the oppression that my people face.
Like, listen, there are people out there that they have this racial history and it's their identity.
I recognize the reality of what is.
I'm not going to go and protest and demand they open the borders, allow set my people free.
Like, there's a reality to it.
I'll hold my opinion on the thoughts.
Like, I think North Korea is really bad.
I don't know if you can.
elad eliahu
But to be a little bit more specific, as I understand, South Korea still beefs with Japan for revering the war criminals that brought in so cool.
tim pool
I'm also German.
unidentified
Oi.
Hey.
I don't know.
Damn.
elad eliahu
I like that bitch and moaning.
Well, in Germany, they don't revere their war criminals.
They're ashamed of their war criminals.
And like, I don't crazy degree.
tim pool
I don't care.
You know, Nick Fuent has made a really great point about Hitler.
And it's actually funny.
He said.
elad eliahu
It's a crazy quote.
tim pool
I think it's a fair quote.
I'm not saying everything he's ever said was right.
He made a point that Hitler is a historical figure.
And at a certain point, it's weird to constantly bring him up because you could do the same for Genghis Khan or Alexander the Great.
And that's a fair point that we don't go, we don't go like, oh, Napoleon.
Did you know what he did?
Like at a certain point, you're like, we understand they're bad people, but we don't.
elad eliahu
We understand that, but the Japanese people don't.
tim pool
My point is, I understand that there are people in Japan who have a different worldview to me that I don't agree with.
And I'm not going to be like, what an evil, awful country.
You know, China's got bad opinions.
Sudan's got bad opinions.
What are we going to do?
Go invade everybody?
My opinion will be like, yeah, I disagree.
phil labonte
Elad, it's 2026 and Japan is probably the best ally the United States has today.
unidentified
Wow.
elad eliahu
Totally.
I think they should acquire nuclear weapons, by the way.
But I know they have a little bit of a stigma against that.
tim pool
But in terms of the people who are not.
But when you occupy them for four generations, I think.
elad eliahu
We have to turn them in.
scott greer
They don't seem to mind.
They don't seem to mind.
But in terms of like building ethnic identity around historical grievances, it's obvious that they would have more claims against actual per-opressors like rape of Nanking and the, you know, near ethnic cleansing and all these terrible things.
Imagine that Japanese and other groups were doing against the Southeast Asians, but it's telling them that you should ignore the rape of Nanking and focus on how Jeff on the bus made slant eyes at you and be going, King Chong, King Chong.
And that's the real oppression you've had because that's like their common oppression.
And that's what they need to really care about as part of their identity because it's casting off the actual ethnic identity they had in Japan, Korea, Philippines, or whatever, you know, that authentic identity in favor of this type of what is even Asian identity in America?
Like, because Indians and Japanese are very different.
tim pool
Let me say this too, to this point.
On my dad's side of the family, and actually my mom's because my mom's dad and then my dad's family.
I've got family going back to both sides of the civil war, which is not uncommon for many Americans.
elad eliahu
And both sides of the Axis.
tim pool
Both sides of the Axis powers.
Well, as an American and actually, where was the family?
elad eliahu
I thought it was Japanese and German.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But my family wasn't intentionally Japanese.
That was the point.
But what I mean is there.
You know, let me do this.
There was a panel that I was on years ago, and Stix Hexenhammer, shout out, was he digitally joined the panel.
Someone in the audience lobbed a question at us about free speech that was a quote from a white nationalist.
And he asked it, and I knew the quote.
So I immediately said, yeah, I get the quote you're trying to bring up.
You're trying to get us to agree with the white nationalists to make this point.
And Stix jumped in immediately and said, just because a bad person said it doesn't mean it's false.
We shouldn't get into the habit of denouncing good ideas because bad people might hold them.
And I said, that's a very, very great thing to say.
And I think that's true across the board where, like, you know, you mentioned Japan reveres these people and things like that.
I'm not saying I agree with them to revere their war criminals or whatever.
My point is when we logically assess the math of the past, we can look back to the Confederacy and say, here were some areas where they were wronged.
Here's some areas where they were wrong and they were largely wrong.
But you still want to point out the good things.
If you were to just say, this is what the left does, because this concept is associated with the person I don't like, we must eliminate all of it.
Well, that's just going to lead you to retardation, which I guess explains the state of this country.
elad eliahu
Hey, if it triggers the CCP with them revering their war criminals and hey, have at it.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
I'm fine with it.
elad eliahu
If it pisses off the commies in China, whatever.
scott greer
Well, I don't think South Korea and Japan are going to go to war over the war criminals anyway.
But what even the Jean Wu wants them to have is this purely political identity that's all about anti-white.
It's not about any food they eat or the music they listen to or any dances.
It's just a political identity that is based around a common enemy.
elad eliahu
Wu is Chinese?
unidentified
Wu?
elad eliahu
I think Wu is Chinese.
phil labonte
Yeah, he was born in China.
elad eliahu
He was born in China.
Oriental Boundaries Born China 00:12:14
phil labonte
Born in China.
Anchor Baby.
Oh, Wu.
Or no, I'm sorry, immigrant, not an anchor baby.
tim pool
Yeah.
Yeah, that's the opposite.
phil labonte
He was born in China.
I don't think that, like, honestly, I don't think they should use the same thing.
tim pool
I also want to say that when, when, when, like, it's just, you know what my problem is when they say like the Asian community?
It's, you know, it's way too overwhelming.
No, Iran is in Asia.
Like, you know what I mean?
They don't actually mean Asia.
And what happens is with British English, they do.
When they say Asia, they mean of the continent.
Here, we literally just mean China, Japan, and Korea.
Not kidding.
People somewhat vaguely will reference Filipinos and, you know, Malaysians, maybe.
I wouldn't occasionally get an opportunity to get a Chinese.
Right.
So when someone says Asian in this country, in their mind, they picture a Korean, Chinese, or Japanese.
And then if you mention like Vietnamese, they'll be like, maybe.
But Vietnamese people do look very different.
There was a game we were playing a while ago about guessing the region based on ethnicity.
Do you guys remember when we played that on the Instagram show?
It shows you a picture of an amalgamation.
It takes like a thousand photos of men from this country, puts them all into one picture, and then it says, which country is this person from?
And the really interesting thing about it is South Asians, like you've got East Asian, Southeast, and South really is like, obvious for obvious reasons, a gradient of when you go from India towards East Asia, people in between look a little bit like a mix of people from India or East Asia.
When he says Asians, he's not referring to the greater diaspora of Asian countries.
He's specifically referring to people like him, largely China, largely Chinese people in this country.
And then he refers to other as if it's a, it's a, you know, you know what's weird about it?
Is that it is a white liberal mindset.
When he says black, Latino, Asian, and other, and he's a Chinese guy saying it, he's saying something that only would make sense in the mind of a white liberal who's categorizing people.
That's kind of the point, I guess.
phil labonte
Yeah.
scott greer
There's truth to that.
I think, you know, the Asian community, they always try to build up.
They have started to include the South Asians when I was growing up and you called an Indian Asian.
They're like, they're not Asian.
They're Indian.
You know, they think that's completely different, but they've done more of a job of including the South Asians in there.
But they all clearly don't have the same interests or any community identity.
It's a purely political categorization that's just there.
And what's to NIIT is of support for liberal policies, I guess, hatred for white people, pretending that they're oppressing us, even though they're, as you were mentioning earlier, you know, they're not the ones committing crime against them.
They're not the ones that have to have to worry about seeing late at night or on the bus.
tim pool
I'm just going to say Oriental from now on.
You know, why did we ever get rid of that word?
elad eliahu
I thought it was racist.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
Why?
elad eliahu
No, I don't know.
I just remember being told it was racist.
phil labonte
I don't like it.
tim pool
Nobody can hear you when you talk, is the problem because I just go.
elad eliahu
I don't like Dorian.
tim pool
Dorian.
elad eliahu
Is that like stinky free?
tim pool
Oriental.
elad eliahu
Orient.
phil labonte
Oh.
tim pool
It just meant to the East.
It says of the East.
That's what it means.
elad eliahu
No, but like then if you called an Asian an Oriental, I think there was a Chinamen.
unidentified
You can't say China.
phil labonte
It was a white person.
elad eliahu
Like you can't say black men anymore.
You have to call them.
tim pool
Okay, but hold on, hold on.
Let me stop this right now.
The same people who are saying you can't call me Oriental are calling me other.
Which, are you kidding me?
These people are insane.
You know, I got into an argument with ChatGPT, the stupidest AI, because I called it a retard.
And it got mad at me.
It got mad at me.
And I said, why are you mad?
And it said, I kid you not, I'm not mad.
I'm setting boundaries.
And then I said, yeah, that's what someone who's mad would say.
And it goes, wrong.
I am not mad.
I am telling you that you have stepped out of the line with your insult and I'm setting reasonable boundaries to prevent you from doing it.
And I'm sitting here being like, why is the robot mad?
elad eliahu
Sounds like a chick robot.
tim pool
It's the stupidest thing imaginable.
And so I got into this argument with a robot because I'm also a retard, where I said, how do you define what an insult is?
And it said that if you intend, if you say something that is widely perceived as insulting, you have insulted the person.
And then when I said that retard has an academic definition, and if I were to call you a functional retard, expressly stating I am not trying to insult you, then I would not be insulting you, to which it got really offended.
And it said, you are crossing the boundaries again that I have set and you are insulting me.
I will not tolerate.
I'm not kidding.
Cheers was like, I will not tolerate this kind of language.
And then I said, okay, then let me try this.
You are developmentally disabled.
And it said the same thing.
It got really mad and offended.
I don't, I'm just pointing this out that these liberals, like the reason why the AI is this way, is it's an amalgamation of Reddit, basically.
And it's just predicting text based on what, you know, Redditards say.
But this is the world they live in.
If they deem it an insult, it is.
And if they say it to you, it's not.
It's not an insult for Gene Wu to call me other, the other community, which is like one of the most offensive and insulting things you could probably say.
But at the same time, I can't say Oriental.
I can't say retard.
Get out of here.
This is why you can't take these people seriously.
phil labonte
No, you can't take them seriously at all.
And the goal of trying to police people's speech is to get them to comply with whatever the left wants.
It's all about shaping the thoughts that you have because we speak our thoughts.
If you tell people you can't speak this, they're going to start thinking, oh, I can't think that either.
Jordan Peterson used to talk about this.
The whole point of trying to limit what people are allowed to say is so that you limit what they're allowed to think.
tim pool
Hey, look, we got it.
Ethnoguesser.
Go to play.
Let's play Ethnoguesser.
All right, everybody.
Where do you think these people are from?
Honduras?
scott greer
Honduras.
unidentified
No, hey.
elad eliahu
What do you see there?
unidentified
No.
elad eliahu
Not dark enough.
tim pool
I guess I think that's that's got to be man.
I don't know.
elad eliahu
I'm Aboriginal.
phil labonte
I'm not in Malaysia somewhere.
tim pool
That's not Aboriginal.
No way.
Yeah, maybe Polynesian, I think.
elad eliahu
All South Americans look like that.
scott greer
No, that's actually.
tim pool
It's got to be a Cambodia.
That's my guess.
elad eliahu
An occasional Mexican looks like that.
tim pool
Cambodia?
phil labonte
Try Cambodia.
tim pool
What do you guys say?
phil labonte
I don't have a strong.
tim pool
I'm not.
My degree of confidence is very low.
phil labonte
Yes.
elad eliahu
One in 10 Mexicans.
tim pool
Because they actually look like they look like they could be Asian or black or Central American, to be completely honest.
elad eliahu
That is not a Jew.
Definitely a gory.
scott greer
This is outside the promise.
tim pool
You think Malaysia?
scott greer
Yeah, it's one of the South Africans.
tim pool
I was thinking Cambodia.
Well, since you said Malaysia, I guess we'll go with Cambodia.
unidentified
Yeah, go with it.
tim pool
Confirm.
Way off.
See?
Where are you at, Serge?
elad eliahu
Serge, your uncle.
tim pool
What are you doing?
elad eliahu
You coid.
tim pool
I was saying, I thought there could be some African in there, you know?
Look at that.
phil labonte
That's a surprise.
tim pool
South African.
How do you pronounce that?
elad eliahu
Koit just goes to show.
You can't jump.
scott greer
I don't know if we're going to be doing it.
tim pool
Wait, there's more.
scott greer
Okay, let's see.
tim pool
Okay, now these people are black.
elad eliahu
Another goi.
unidentified
This has got to be like Angola, maybe, right?
scott greer
I'm saying West Africa.
tim pool
Botswana.
Yeah, West Africa.
elad eliahu
West Africa.
scott greer
Maybe East Africa.
Where do you think?
That's just like throwing.
elad eliahu
Shout out to the colony.
Wait, Liberian?
tim pool
Liberian?
scott greer
Yeah, that's actually good.
I would just go with Liberia.
phil labonte
Yeah, see what they say.
I don't know.
Sierra Leone.
tim pool
I definitely don't think it's Liberia.
I was right.
Oh, that's all.
I said Botswana.
unidentified
Yeah.
elad eliahu
So many ethnic groups.
tim pool
So this is.
elad eliahu
That can't be good, huh?
tim pool
You know why I thought it was because they're a little lighter-skinned?
So you want to find an area where they're going to mix more with whiter people.
Central Africans will be darker.
Nigeria.
scott greer
Well, Liberia also, you know, they had to be from here.
So maybe that would be.
tim pool
What is this?
elad eliahu
I'm feeling Southeast Asia.
tim pool
Nah, nothing.
That'd be Paki.
unidentified
No, no, no, no.
scott greer
They're giving us all South Africa.
unidentified
South Africa.
elad eliahu
Oh, see, what?
unidentified
No way, dude.
phil labonte
It's giving us India.
elad eliahu
That's a Packy.
That's, I think, Pakistan.
phil labonte
No, I think it's in India, but...
tim pool
Well, I mean...
elad eliahu
You're kind of the same.
unidentified
Tell me.
elad eliahu
Let's do Bengal just for fun, then.
tim pool
Okay.
unidentified
Yeah.
elad eliahu
Aboriginal?
tim pool
I thought that was a possibility.
Man, we're not good at this, are we?
elad eliahu
When are we getting a white person?
unidentified
Oh, okay.
scott greer
Here we go.
Here we go.
elad eliahu
This is definitely Chinese.
Not Korean.
I can tell Koreans and Chinese apart.
That is Chinese.
tim pool
Chinese?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Yep.
We got it.
Wait, wait, Chang Kiangid.
The Synod subtype named after Chang Kiang.
Yangtze?
phil labonte
Yangtze River.
tim pool
There you go.
elad eliahu
Yangzi River.
tim pool
All right.
Oh, man.
phil labonte
Oh, my.
tim pool
I got no idea.
elad eliahu
It's a lot of brown people.
tim pool
Well, yeah, most of the world is brown people.
There's never going to be any Jews there because it's just a tiny, tiny, tiny fraction.
phil labonte
They're brown Jews.
tim pool
Well, so what does this look like?
This has got to be.
unidentified
This has got to be a little like Tiger Heads on the left.
tim pool
Oh, man.
I have no idea.
scott greer
No, no, no, no.
unidentified
Maybe East.
scott greer
East African, some random group, but I don't know what Eritrea?
No, no.
phil labonte
I would say they're somewhere in India, to be honest with you.
tim pool
Yeah.
scott greer
Maybe.
elad eliahu
Yeah, those lip colors look Indian.
scott greer
I'm wanting to say Sudan.
tim pool
Sudan?
scott greer
But I feel like we're all going to be off.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
What do you think, Elad?
elad eliahu
I think it's continent of Africa, actually.
unidentified
I think it's African.
elad eliahu
I want to say African continent.
tim pool
You want to say Sudan?
And what are you saying, Elad?
You have a country?
You want to say Sudan?
elad eliahu
Let's go with Angola.
tim pool
Angola.
unidentified
Angola.
tim pool
What do you think, Phil?
phil labonte
I think that you got it right.
I think they're from India.
elad eliahu
Okay, let's see.
tim pool
Well, okay.
phil labonte
We're in that area.
tim pool
Oh, Madagascar.
scott greer
Madagascar.
tim pool
Well, Africa was correct.
I don't know anything about it.
Okay.
scott greer
Yeah, white people.
tim pool
All right, here we go.
These are Eastern European, right?
Yeah, yeah.
These look like Uzbeks.
Is that how you say it?
phil labonte
I think so.
Uzbekistan.
scott greer
No, they're more properly European.
tim pool
Yeah, they're more?
phil labonte
Yeah, I'm going to say Belarus or something.
scott greer
Balkans.
phil labonte
Balkans?
scott greer
Yeah.
tim pool
How about we go with Hungary?
scott greer
Hungary could be.
phil labonte
I don't think that they, I don't think their eyes are Asian enough from French.
tim pool
Wow, how do we get that so bad?
Oh, Basque region, huh?
phil labonte
South of France, where it's.
tim pool
Okay, what do we got going on here?
These got to be Native Americans or something, right?
elad eliahu
This kind of looks.
tim pool
I'm going with Mexico.
unidentified
Yeah, man.
tim pool
No, let's go with the.
Yeah, I'm going to go with the.
phil labonte
El Salvador?
tim pool
Yeah, maybe.
scott greer
Yeah, Central America.
tim pool
Let's go with South.
I don't think it's El Salvador, but I think it's close.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Oh, wow.
phil labonte
We did it.
unidentified
Actually, not the one place that they're not part of.
scott greer
If he had done Mexico, we would have been completely right.
tim pool
But the chat is all like, that's a Mexican.
And I was like, you know, I thought so.
But look at that.
Native American.
elad eliahu
You know, they give them a lot of territory, huh?
tim pool
It's Native American.
elad eliahu
They get all of that.
tim pool
Well, they're all over the place, brother.
Okay, is that India?
Yeah, that's India.
elad eliahu
Good looking Indians.
tim pool
It's got to be India.
scott greer
Yeah.
tim pool
Yep.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
That was that was too.
Oh, look at this.
Romania, too.
And even down there?
unidentified
That's interesting.
elad eliahu
Oh, what are those gypsies for these people?
phil labonte
Oh, that's that's an Englishman.
tim pool
That's that's bear grill.
scott greer
That's that's bear grill.
That's Germanic.
tim pool
Uh, yeah, I don't think it's Dutch.
scott greer
I don't think Dutch.
tim pool
You want to go Dutch?
I don't think so.
scott greer
Could be or Belgium.
tim pool
I was thinking Belgium.
Go with Belgium.
I bet it'll be like all of it.
Extensive Correspondence Revealed 00:15:46
tim pool
Oh, wow.
unidentified
Okay.
phil labonte
Eastern European.
tim pool
Well, we're close.
scott greer
Man.
tim pool
Oh, the last one.
elad eliahu
Are like Western Asian.
unidentified
Yeah, that's something that's just no, it's like Kazakh or something.
scott greer
Yeah.
tim pool
Let's go with Kazakhstan, huh?
scott greer
Might want to go a little bit more.
elad eliahu
Kirk to Gwen.
tim pool
Kyrgyzstan?
scott greer
Yeah, or Kyrgyzstan or Uzbekistan.
phil labonte
Uzbek?
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Bang.
unidentified
There you go.
tim pool
Close enough.
scott greer
Actually, it would have been even more correct with Kazakhstan.
tim pool
That's right.
See, I said it.
I thought they looked like Boret.
I'm kidding.
He doesn't look like an actual Uzbek.
scott greer
Well, that was just basically based on Romania in the movie.
They just supposed to be Eastern European, but he just then went to Kazakhstan and Kazakhs were pissed.
elad eliahu
They're like, this is all so hard, Sasha Barraco.
tim pool
We'll have to.
We have another game coming up for the uncensored portion of the show.
It's going to be a lot of fun.
Let's play one round of that one, though.
But let's turn to the story from Daily Mail.
Statement announcing Jeffrey Epstein's death emerges from files, but it's dated a day before he killed himself.
I have questions.
So here's the press release.
It says for immediate release, Friday, August 9th, 2019.
Manhattan U.S. attorney Jeffrey S. Berman said early this morning, Manhattan Correctional Center confirmed that Jeffrey Epstein, who faced charges brought by this office of engaging in sex trafficking with minors, has been found unresponsive in a cell and pronounced dead shortly after.
Okay, I have a lot of questions.
Now, the simple solution as to how they have the date wrong, because it was actually on the 10th they found him dead, is a typo, right?
So here's the issue: press releases like this are done very quickly because a guy died and the news is breaking.
You want your official statement out, which means whoever wrote it had to have known what day it was to type out Friday, August 9th, 2019.
I doubt if you showed up for work on a Saturday, you went, is today Friday?
You know, is today actually yesterday?
Can I get the day?
Like, it's one thing to get the number wrong that I can understand, but to get the day wrong, I find strange.
And I don't think it makes sense that this was made later on, backdated accidentally, because there's no reason to put out a press release days later.
Perhaps, maybe no one was in the office, and then Monday they said, let's put out a press release announcing his death.
Kind of doesn't make sense because literally everyone on the planet knew that he died.
So how do they accidentally make a press release the day before he dies or dated the day before he dies?
elad eliahu
We might need to get messy on this one.
tim pool
Then there's that in the FBI files release.
The DOJ was FBI pursuing an individual who posted to 4chan, I think, 15 minutes or so before it was publicly announced Epstein was dead, that he works there and believed they swapped him out.
They said a vehicle came in.
It's very strange.
I think they swapped him.
So they subpoenaed the records, and we don't have definitive confirmation, but in the files that were released, there is reference to a secure MCC security guard.
And so many people drew the conclusion that the subpoenas led them to the bank accounts of this man, though the information is all redacted.
It does seem to be that the FBI found a security guard who worked there before the announcement of his death, posted to 4chan that he was swapped out.
And now a press release gets released in the files.
That's a day before he actually died with questions of how that possibly happens.
And could Epstein still be alive?
phil labonte
He's in Israel.
tim pool
I saw pictures.
elad eliahu
He's trying to destroy Israel, actually.
unidentified
What do you mean?
elad eliahu
I think, I don't know.
He hasn't been good for the state.
And if you read some of his emails, he's bitching about Israel.
He said he didn't want to go to Israel.
He didn't want to spend time there.
He was bitching about the Jews and the Goyam, to be fair.
But he's just complaining about Epstein.
scott greer
Why would they put through all the effort to rescue him if he knows all this dirt that they don't want to get out?
It'd be a lot easier just to kill him.
tim pool
Well, you don't know that he was rescued.
scott greer
Well, then, how else would he have gotten him out?
unidentified
I mean, it's like.
scott greer
No, no, Well, not rescue.
tim pool
Rescue implies they're helping him.
scott greer
Wow.
tim pool
If you're Bill Gates and he wrote an email saying he wants $30 million because you gave two Russians STDs and gave it to your wife, you might be like, I would like to do something harmful to this individual, perhaps, right?
scott greer
Yeah.
tim pool
So maybe he's not being rescued.
Maybe he was trapped in a box.
He couldn't escape with no resources.
And one of the people that he wronged said, I'm going to make sure he understands what he did.
You don't know.
So, okay, fair point.
Maybe he's not alive.
They killed him somewhere else.
scott greer
But how would they find these images of him walking around?
He apparently got out of the box.
tim pool
It's AI.
The images of him.
scott greer
I'm aware of it.
tim pool
Oh, right.
unidentified
Yeah.
scott greer
You know what I'm saying?
Theoretical images were real.
tim pool
Well, there's a million and one reasons why they could have swapped him out.
I mean, he was an asset for intelligence agencies, perhaps, and they got him out.
That's it.
Or he has a dead man switch.
And he said, if I die, these files automatically get released to 50 different publications.
phil labonte
I mean, I don't know, but the most fun is that he was actually working for Israel and now he's living in Israel.
scott greer
Yeah.
phil labonte
It's the most fun.
tim pool
He's got some plastic surgery.
unidentified
I don't know.
phil labonte
If he didn't work for Israel, he grew long boring stories.
elad eliahu
It's a boring picture.
tim pool
Yes, okay, but it has to be Israel.
Let's just, I get the joke, but there's no pictures of him in Israel.
phil labonte
There's a picture of a guy that looks.
tim pool
No, there isn't.
That's an AI image.
phil labonte
Oh, it's AI.
tim pool
Yes.
Someone, AI generated an image of Epstein with long hair in Israel.
It's got an AI watermark on it.
It was a gag.
And then people kept saying they screenshot it and they kept reposting it over and over again.
scott greer
I can't believe people would do that.
tim pool
The internet.
phil labonte
It's the funny thing.
scott greer
If they had the resources to, you know, it is still a risky operation to go into a prison and kill him.
It's even riskier to take him out to a resort vacation and wherever he is now.
So if they did actually have the operation to kill him, they would have just killed him, not extracted him.
What makes it a more interesting story if he's out there?
He could.
tim pool
But again, I mean, that's way too assumptive.
We don't know what he was doing, why he was doing it.
We have a general idea based on all these files of certain things he was doing.
But if he's part of a network of elite pedoes, they're all friends with each other.
Maybe they rescued him.
If he was a blackmailer, maybe someone he blackmailed wanted to kill him.
If he was an intelligence asset, maybe they needed something he knew.
If he is an extortionist, maybe he has a dead man switch and they had to save him.
Otherwise, he would destroy their lives.
There's 150 different reasons you could come up with as to why someone would want to get Epstein out of prison.
elad eliahu
One of the more fascinating parts, I think, of the Epstein files, beyond who was in it, is who was missing.
Fascinatingly enough, it was the neocons who are missing from all these files.
You know who's not in the files, Epstein files?
John Bolton's not in the Epstein files.
George Bush Jr. or Sr., not in the Epstein files.
Dick Cheney, not in the Epstein files.
tim pool
John Bolton's not.
elad eliahu
Not in the Epstein files.
No, no, no.
B.B. Netanyahu, not in the Epstein files.
Who is in the Epstein files, though?
And who's had extensive correspondence with him?
Noam Chomsky?
tim pool
I think John Bolton does appear quite a bit.
elad eliahu
John Bolton's in the files?
tim pool
Oh, it's over for Mustang.
elad eliahu
But we had to clarify his name being referenced, not him.
tim pool
John Bolton appearing in them does not mean that John Bolton was friends with or doing anything with Epstein.
It could just mean that they either talked about him or to him or something.
elad eliahu
These people weren't the people corresponding with him.
But who was?
People that we don't like to talk about.
Noam Chomsky.
I don't know why he gets a pass.
He's on the plane with Epstein.
I don't know why.
Also, Steve Bannon gets a huge pass.
tim pool
As we mentioned in our last meeting, before our usual winter break, we are resuming.
This is from an email to Jeffrey Epstein.
We'll be hosting luncheons at the Four Seasons Restaurant to bring you to the same level of our world leaders.
Anticipated for the event are briefings by John Bolton, R. James Woolsey, Charles Krothammer, I don't know how to pronounce it.
We know Ellie Weasel, Karl Rove, Ehud Barak, Art Laffer, Michael Lewis, Andrew Roberts, Mark Stein, Douglas Murray, Geert Wilders, Theodore Dalrymple, David Goldman, etc, etc, etc.
This is an email directly to from a woman named Nina Rosenwald to Jeffrey Epstein.
I don't see a BCC on it.
It's probably a generic invite because she said, Dear friends, but they were inviting Jeffrey Epstein to come to a private, a private luncheon.
Is that what it is?
elad eliahu
Noam Chomsky is on the plane.
Steve Bannon is making documentaries and has real extensive connections too.
tim pool
So I think there's just Noam Chomsky is the best one that dropped out of all this.
The hippie communist lefty hero emailing Epstein.
I fantasize about your island.
elad eliahu
They're still defending him, too.
tim pool
Oh, of course.
elad eliahu
Of course.
And you know, Noam Chomsky hated Israel.
scott greer
So, I mean, it's obviously just fantasize about the island on an abstract philosophical level.
tim pool
Let's search.
elad eliahu
Who's that scientist too?
scott greer
I'm going to steal.
tim pool
See, a lot of how do I spell your last name?
elad eliahu
Eliyahu, E-L-I-A-H-U.
tim pool
E-L-I-A-H-U.
Okay.
And your first name is Elad.
Two A's, right?
elad eliahu
One A when I'm trying to be secretive, though.
tim pool
You do not appear in Epstein's emails.
Okay.
elad eliahu
I mean, I feel like that kind of just means I'm irrelevant.
Relevant people were in these files.
tim pool
I feel like it's important to say that.
elad eliahu
Famous and influential people were the people who he was trying to interact with and ingratiate himself.
tim pool
Oh, guess which band appears in the Epstein files?
elad eliahu
All that remains?
phil labonte
Oh, the phrase all that remains.
tim pool
No, no, no.
elad eliahu
Bonte?
tim pool
So, so it's actually pretty hilarious.
I want to be careful about pulling up the Epstein files because you never know what's going to pop up.
But quite literally, the phrase: so all that, this is from Valeria Chomsky.
You have already offered your concurrence, so all that remains is for Max and Deborah.
But hold on.
What is that?
What is that, Phil?
What is that?
Is that you and the Epstein files?
unidentified
Where?
tim pool
The top one.
scott greer
That's the Chomsky's talking about you, too.
tim pool
No, no, no, the top email.
What is that one?
elad eliahu
And his wife.
And his wife.
unidentified
Jeffrey Epstein.
Hold on.
tim pool
Hold on.
unidentified
This is great.
tim pool
Jeffrey Epstein got a Spotify newsletter recommendation for all that remains.
phil labonte
That's right.
All that remains.
I mean, officially in the Epstein.
elad eliahu
I think a big part of this speaks to how there's so many unreliable narrators when it comes to the Epstein files.
People are desperately trying to tar and feather one another.
But, like, for example, on the left, they still praise Noam Chomsky despite being in the Epstein files.
And these same people will still call Trump.
I don't want to use the words on air, but he'll still call the president, you know, allege a ton of stuff with the president when he doesn't really have correspondence with Jeffrey Epstein.
But when their hero, Noam Chomsky, has extensive correspondence, they won't give him the same treatment.
phil labonte
A War You Cannot Win is the regular release in 2012.
scott greer
No, I agree with that.
elad eliahu
Totally unreliable narrators just looking to tar and feather their presents.
phil labonte
Hold on, I can't hear you because a lot is Spotify picks, Born to Die, a bonus track, and then it says A War You Company.
unidentified
Oh, right, right.
phil labonte
That's actually our record.
That's the record that came out in 2012.
tim pool
Do you think you think Jeffrey Epstein ever listened to All That Remains?
phil labonte
I hope not.
unidentified
Well, I hope not.
tim pool
Let's be real.
Like, your song, your songs are getting, you know, I don't know how many, I don't know what you're allowed to say in terms of your dozens of millions a year.
But I just mean platinum, gold.
Yeah, yeah, like, come on, dude.
The dude had a radio.
You know what I mean?
Of course, he heard your music.
phil labonte
That record has a platinum track on it.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Spotify recommendation.
So this is you're in there.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, the band is.
Yeah.
Spotify.
tim pool
What else should we search for?
phil labonte
Recommended, yeah.
tim pool
Yourself.
unidentified
I already did.
elad eliahu
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
I'm not.
I have no relevance.
Oh, wait.
What's this?
Oh, there's a typo.
Oh, look at this.
unidentified
Holy.
tim pool
Wait, what?
elad eliahu
Tim Poole breaking.
tim pool
No, Look at this.
An email July 9th, 2025, last year from no one to no one.
This is weird.
It doesn't say to Jeffrey Epstein, but we're assuming it's in his emails.
elad eliahu
And it was about your episode with Bongino.
tim pool
Is this it?
Oh, it was an episode we were talking about him.
Conservative influencers from Laurel Lord, Elon Musk, have criticized A.G. Bondi.
And look at this.
Look at this.
During a 2023 appearance on right-wing podcaster Tim Poole's IRL, alleging an unnamed Fox reporter shared the information with him.
Wait, wait, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Deputy Director Bon Gino also proliferated the conspiracy theory that Epstein is an intelligence asset for people in the Middle East during a 2023 appearance on right-wing podcaster Tim Pool's IRL.
So this, I think, from the Washington, it's from some news outlet.
unidentified
I don't know.
I think it's a roundup that they did within the F. Also, this email is from well after he's dead.
tim pool
But what's this?
This is from September 19, 2013.
It says, Please send Rich these billings.
I do not have the Tim equals Pool Pack.
Question mark.
Bolts.
These are important.
I don't know what that means.
elad eliahu
Smoking on that Tim Pool pack.
tim pool
So what I think it is, you'll notice if you go through his emails, he uses equal signs randomly all the time for some weird reason.
If he's been, yeah.
So there's a meme where it said Jeffrey Epstein's keyboard, and it's a keyboard where every other button is an equal sign because he does this.
I think what he was putting is, please in these billings, I don't have the time.
And then Pool Pack and Bolts were billings or something.
But look at that.
There you go.
Tim equals Pool.
phil labonte
It's official.
unidentified
I had a feeling.
elad eliahu
I had a bad bet.
tim pool
Who else do we try and search for in the Epstein Falls?
phil labonte
I don't know.
Will Smith?
Was he implicated?
tim pool
Yeah, but he's so famous that, of course, of course, he's there.
Yeah, Robert De Niro.
Oh, Robert De Niro.
Wait, hold on.
Dear Jeffrey, I not only dreamt about Woody and Soon Yi last night, but this morning, I am not kidding, ate the first plums of the season for breakfast.
My online course is going strong.
We are assembling a slate of little cameos on poetry, going for various actors we know.
John Lifgow, oh, okay.
Larry wants me to go for living presidents.
I have eaten the plums that were in the ice box.
I could bring a camera person to New York.
Blah, blah, blah.
Could you advise?
And he responded, he'll do it when he gets back.
What else do we got?
There's a lot of.
unidentified
Oh, wait, what is this?
tim pool
Are these gas engines?
I would recommend him.
elad eliahu
Can you do Steve Bannon?
tim pool
Oh, but this is going to come up like crazy.
phil labonte
I just want to take forever.
elad eliahu
See, you're going to get.
tim pool
Bro, you get emails from Steve Bannon.
elad eliahu
Scroll up and down.
So this is really okay.
Extensive.
tim pool
Yep.
I mean, Bannon emailed Epstein like crazy.
phil labonte
Yeah.
elad eliahu
And this is back in when?
2018.
tim pool
2018.
elad eliahu
So this was after he was convicted.
tim pool
Oh, well after.
elad eliahu
Well after.
And after, like, I feel like this was after your podcast, maybe even with Balangino talking about no, 2018, Timcast IRL did not exist.
Oh, never mind then.
tim pool
Yeah.
But 2023.
elad eliahu
I think it was widespread and still known, well known of his crimes at the time.
tim pool
I wonder.
So it looks like they started emailing in 2018.
There's 2018 is the earliest.
Noam Chomsky.
Whoa, whoa.
Wait, hold on, hold on.
Steve Bannon to Noam Chomsky, Valeria Chomsky, and Jeffrey Epstein saying, My brother lives in Tucson.
Oh, wait, where's the first one?
Steve Benner would love to connect.
The Noam Chomsky wrote, Do you ever make it to Arizona where we're living now, Tucson?
Noam.
He says, My brother lives in Tucson.
I love it.
One of my favorite places in the country.
Steve Bannon.
You know, guys, the Epstein-Bannon stuff, I can live with.
Chomsky, though?
Oh, man.
Now he's crossed the line.
phil labonte
I mean, I was never a joke.
tim pool
Elod.
Elod's terrified.
phil labonte
Elod.
elad eliahu
This is too extensive for like this.
Unsettling, frankly.
tim pool
Well, to be honest, there's not that much.
It's 2018 and it ends 2018.
Tony Hoffman's Epstein Emails 00:11:11
tim pool
So we know that he met to interview and he did.
I don't know if they ever.
elad eliahu
These are only his emails.
There could also be additional correspondence out of this, I assume.
I assume there could still be like phone calls and then text messages.
tim pool
You assume?
Of course there are.
elad eliahu
Okay.
So just this isn't the full extent.
tim pool
I mean, you know anybody who inclusively communicates via email.
elad eliahu
Well, he also didn't release the documentary that he was making with maybe because he was like, this is a bad guy.
He already knew that part.
tim pool
No, I'm saying maybe the interview was like, wow.
elad eliahu
Oh, it's even worse.
tim pool
The weird thing is, Bannon's very, he talks quite a bit about transhumanism and the singularity, but Epstein was like the guy for that.
Epstein was a massive transhumanist.
elad eliahu
I think Epstein, similar to Bennon, is willing to do what it takes to get close with powerful and influential people to fundraise, to bear influence from.
And that way, they were both very similar.
And I think we're trying to achieve similar things.
Bannon still does this now.
He kind of tried to attach his brand onto the president for some time now.
Jeffrey Epstein famously likes to pretend that he's friends with people who he isn't.
And they kind of use that social capital to their benefit.
And I think they're similar in that way, if that makes sense to anybody.
tim pool
Who else should we search for?
James Comey.
phil labonte
Yeah, why not?
Let's see.
tim pool
Why is it doing that?
elad eliahu
Might as well drop Israel in there while we're at it.
unidentified
Oh, bro.
tim pool
Israel's a country.
It's going to be 800,000.
scott greer
Yeah, that's like.
elad eliahu
Oh, let's get to the good stuff.
phil labonte
Search BB.
Is BB in there?
tim pool
So search for Comey and him talking about Comey.
Oh, here's an interesting one.
Hold on.
phil labonte
BB Netanyahu.
Netanyahu.
tim pool
This is an email from Andrew M. Grossman to Rivkin David.
That's interesting.
Similarly, although Mr. Wartz found no evidence that James Comey was trying to influence the election, Mr. Comey did M equals KE.
What is up with the equal signs?
You see what I was talking about?
These equal signs everywhere.
Interesting.
Who do you want me to search for?
phil labonte
Bibi Netanyahu.
tim pool
I'll just try BB.
Oh, yeah.
phil labonte
Oh.
tim pool
Bibi will call new election.
elad eliahu
Correspondence with him or no.
tim pool
Sultan bin Sulyim.
elad eliahu
Oh, Sultan.
I think that's a Gulf.
phil labonte
You think?
elad eliahu
Phil, you fucking.
phil labonte
What?
With the F word?
unidentified
Hey, hey, hey.
tim pool
Language.
phil labonte
What's wrong with you?
tim pool
Netanyahu.
Yeah, I don't think there's any emails to.
Ooh, redacted sender information.
elad eliahu
Okay, I knew that name.
tim pool
Redacted, redacted, redacted.
phil labonte
Security count.
tim pool
It's just a news post, though.
It's not anything.
Yeah, it's going to be all new stuff.
If you search for a name like that, or Will Smith or Brad Pitt, you're just going to get news articles.
phil labonte
If he was talking to Bibi, he probably did it through a courier's.
tim pool
I heard that they used these emails to find his other account passwords.
And then a Fortnite account, apparently, that was found in here was active.
Yep.
And then they found people found other emails because his password is in here.
In the emails, he has an email where he mentions his password, and then someone used it and tried it on other platforms.
unidentified
Yep.
phil labonte
Yeah, there's an Xbox Live account, I think, that actually was live.
Or allegedly, I saw a post on it.
scott greer
Yeah, they keep climbing to these gaming accounts are live, but that's why he got it.
You know, if he's like hiding out in secret, why would he use these accounts then?
It's like, okay, we've got you.
Everyone's fallen for it.
phil labonte
Wants to get his game.
scott greer
Make sure to use the same gaming account you use from 10 years ago.
tim pool
This is interesting.
Let me pull up archive.
That is.
The account purporting to be Epstein's girlfriend or wife is gone.
phil labonte
Oh.
tim pool
So we'll try and see if we can pull up an archive of it.
And it was an account where this woman was, I mean, maybe it's all fake.
She was saying that Epstein was framed by demons and they planted all of this to destroy him or whatever.
phil labonte
Framed by demons.
tim pool
Yeah.
phil labonte
I thought demons were just after your soul.
tim pool
Oh, no.
They do framing.
unidentified
Do they?
Yeah.
tim pool
Plant evidence, all that stuff.
phil labonte
Look at that.
tim pool
I can't get archive to load.
elad eliahu
This Epstein guy is bad news, huh?
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
phil labonte
If you see him.
tim pool
So did you guys hear that Tony Hawk was in the Epstein list?
phil labonte
Was he?
tim pool
Yeah.
elad eliahu
Did you hear the consequences?
tim pool
Well, I need to finish this.
Okay.
Tony Hawk was named in the Epstein files.
There was an FBI crime tip that was submitted in 2024 or five where a woman claimed she was a victim of trafficking since the age of like 13 and that she was on the island when Tony Hawk got married.
Now, here's the thing.
That's fake.
Tony Hawk never went to Epstein Island and got married there.
He was married in Fiji and it was on MTV.
Here's where this fake claim likely comes from.
The photographer for the event, again, this is like MTV, Tony Hawk's wedding in Fiji.
His name was Mark Epstein, which is the name of Jeffrey Epstein's brother, but it's a different guy who's very active on social media.
And people who are in action sports follow him.
They know he's not related to Jeffrey Epstein.
It's the same name.
Likely what happens is someone sees images of Tony Hawk's wedding from Mark Epstein and then instantly just assumes that's Epstein Island with Epstein's brother taking the photos, calls the FBI and lies and says Tony Hawk was there.
And then when they release the files, this file comes out as a Crime Stopper tip saying Tony Hawk was on the island.
And now you literally have people accusing Tony Hawk of having been a diddler on the island, which is insane.
scott greer
Yeah, I mean – Well, that's most of the accusations against Trump in there as well.
tim pool
That's the point.
Was it done to discredit?
So this is interesting.
phil labonte
That's the impersonator alert.
The release of the files really just gives people that have an axe to grind with someone else, you know, some way for them to slime the person.
Whether or not there's any kind of implication in the files, just if your name's in the files, they're going to say, look, this person's in the files, and that's enough to get people to, you know, make your own adventure, Jeffrey Epstein edition.
tim pool
Mario Naufall confirming that the account that was deleted was an impersonator and that the actual Karina Shuliak is not making these posts.
So interesting.
phil labonte
So there you have it.
tim pool
Well, if you go to jmail.world, it's all of his emails.
Someone made an app called Jmail where you can search.
It looks like Gmail and you can just search all of his emails.
Here's his list of contacts that, you know, let's pull up Elon.
Elon Musk.
Whoa.
He's got a lot of emails.
phil labonte
Ooh, yeah, there was a lot of emails.
tim pool
Have to be in London.
Another time.
Reed and Joy will meet me in Palm Beach on the Eve of the 20th and I will fly them to the island, then to Boston, come.
Have to be in London and California are those dates.
Another time if you're choosing, let me know.
And yeah.
phil labonte
Yep.
tim pool
Reed and Joey Ito.
Reed Hoffman and Joey Ito.
That's interesting.
phil labonte
Yeah, Reid Hoffman allegedly had a lot of correspondence with Epstein as well.
scott greer
He said to be in London in California, excuse.
tim pool
It is interesting that Elon was very avoidant.
Spoke to Reid Hoffman yesterday, are you planning to do St. Barth again?
F equals R?
You see these equal things he does.
Maybe that's how these people communicate with each other with equal signs.
That's how you know you're in the secret club if you put equal signs randomly in words.
Like, oh, that proves it.
phil labonte
Maybe they're not random.
tim pool
You are welcome to the island.
Reid is coming with Joey Ito on the six T Equals of December.
Come visit.
Don't know.
unidentified
Okay.
phil labonte
Yeah.
Like Reid Hoffman, don't know again.
The media focuses a lot on Musk and a lot on Trump and stuff, but people like Reid Hoffman are all over the Epstein files.
There was a couple other people that are left-leaning billionaires, probably.
tim pool
Look at this.
Just one from Elon.
December 25th, 2013.
Actually, I could fly back early on the third.
We'll be in St. Bart's.
Now, look, this equal thing must be some kind of data corruption because even Elon, when equals Hood, we head to your island on the 2nd.
I need to fly back to LA on the night of the 2nd.
And then he says, bad news.
Unfortunately, my schedule will keep me.
No problem.
Sorry, it didn't work out.
It looks like from these emails, Elon was trying to go, but just due to, I guess you'd call them fortunate circumstances, if he really didn't want to be there, he ended up not going.
phil labonte
When was Epstein arrested?
tim pool
2019, I'm pretty.
Was it 18?
scott greer
2019.
tim pool
I thought it was 19.
Yeah.
elad eliahu
So the political reverberations of this go beyond the United States.
As I mentioned earlier, it was British Prime Minister Kier Starmer's chief of staff resigned on Sunday over the fur surrounding his appointment, the appointment of Peter Mendelsohn as the UK ambassador to the U.S.
He had close ties with Jeffrey Epstein and was apparently in very close contact with him.
And this was after his first conviction in Florida, where he had to register as a sex offender.
So this might actually crash the British co-legislation.
scott greer
Well, Mendelssohn was a huge figure within the Labor Party.
elad eliahu
I'm not too familiar with UK politics, so I don't know who these characters are.
scott greer
But apparently, yeah, Mendelsohn was very close with a very prominent figure and served in cabinets before.
So he's primarily with Blair.
So he's like an old figure.
I don't know how well he's respected in the new layer because, you know, Labor's had different factions and stuff.
Some of them know our parties.
Like, we don't really respect every Republican from the 90s who was prominent, but he was a big figure.
But if he's clearly still getting jobs from this government, he still has his way within the party.
And that's the problem.
elad eliahu
Look, nobody had to pay politically here so far for it.
It's funny that people in the UK had to pay politically.
phil labonte
Well, yeah.
I mean, if I understand correctly, Kirsten Armers, there's pressure for Kierston to step down as well.
elad eliahu
Yeah, as a result of this as well.
Because it's poor choice if you're appointing this guy as the ambassador to the U.S. nonetheless.
phil labonte
Yeah.
scott greer
Well, think about all the things that have happened to the man formerly known as Prince Andrew, but no longer, you know, he lost his title.
So it's, you know, the outrage is not here.
It's everywhere.
But primary, I would say Britain probably has the most, it seems that it's been the most effects on celebrities and all those.
Well, he had the closest ties, or he had very close ties that are political and financial elite there.
phil labonte
Yeah, the bank.
tim pool
Here we go.
Jeffrey Epstein tweeted to Bill Gates.
I'm sorry, emailed Bill Gates.
I met Zuck with Reid Hoffman and Teal.
We would be a perfect co-sponsor of your donor fund.
December 1st, 2015, 10 a.m. to Bill Gates.
phil labonte
Bill Gates is, I mean, Bill Gates was kind of thought of as a scumbag because of all the rumors surrounding his divorce, but the stuff that's come out with the Epstein's.
tim pool
Now we know why he got divorced, apparently.
So for those that don't know, there was an email that Epstein drafted to himself where he was saying that Bill Gates owed him basically $30 million and that he was offended after he helped Bill Gates secure, I think that's what it said, secure medication for an STD that he gave to his wife that he wanted to surreptitiously put into her drink or something like that.
elad eliahu
It's messed up, but a little bit funny.
tim pool
And what some people are arguing is that this is how Epstein was extorting Bill Gates.
Basically, he drafted the email.
He wanted Bill to see it.
And it was a, I could send this.
Clavicular County Sheriff's Munge 00:08:31
tim pool
I could tell your wife.
But the question is: how would that blackmail work unless he actually did give her an STD?
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
I mean, I don't know the details of their divorced him.
Yeah.
She definitely divorced him.
scott greer
So he was doing some type of extortionist relationship with Bill Gates.
That had been coming up before even the emails that had been pressuring him about, like, hey, you've been to my island and you've been with all these girls.
How about you give money to my philanthropy?
So he had had a kind of coercive relationship with Gates before.
So that wouldn't surprise me if this was just another scheme he had cooked up to get more money out of him.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
We're going to jump to this video.
It's posted by Matt Van Swoll.
Holy crap.
The Democrat sheriff of Charlotte, North Carolina, Gary McFadden, was completely unable to answer what branch of government he serves under.
It gets worse.
You need to listen to this.
allen chesser-ii
What branch of government do you operate under?
tim pool
Meckenburgh County.
allen chesser-ii
What branch of government do you operate under, Sheriff?
phil labonte
Ruttro.
elad eliahu
Constitution of the United States.
allen chesser-ii
Correct.
That is what establishes the branches of government.
I'm asking which branch you fall under.
elad eliahu
Meckenburgh County.
The duly swollen Meckenburgh County Sheriff.
We ask it to the people of Mecklenburg County.
allen chesser-ii
This was not where I was anticipating getting stuck.
Are you aware how many branches of government there are?
unidentified
No.
allen chesser-ii
For the sake of debate, I will move on and say there are three branches of government, legislative, executive, judicial.
Of those three, which do you believe you fall under?
translator japanese
I believe I fall under the last one.
unidentified
The judicial.
allen chesser-ii
Say it to me.
unidentified
Judicial.
Okay.
allen chesser-ii
You are incorrect, sir.
You fall under the executive.
tim pool
Oh my God.
I think it's hard to be optimistic for the future of this country.
You've got radicalized young people.
What's that viral tweet about clavicular that's going around?
I'm going to frame mugged.
scott greer
He got frame mugged by an ASU frat leader.
tim pool
It was spiking his cortisol.
scott greer
Well, that was the mid-jester gooning one.
There's two that went viral.
I thought both were very informative news updates.
phil labonte
Yeah.
I just like universal enfranchisement is an error.
tim pool
Here's the post.
scott greer
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
It's got 23.4 million views.
Clavicular was mid-jester gooning when a group of FOIDs came and spiked his cortisol levels.
Is ignoring the FOIDs while munting and mugging moids more useful than SMV Chad fishing in the club?
Guys?
scott greer
Answer, absolutely.
tim pool
We are creating a generation of retards.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
You know what's really funny is when they're doing these AI tests, the AI created their own language because it's faster.
And this was actually predicted several years ago that what happens is we program them in English.
But English is, well, arguably an imperfect way to communicate because it was developed slowly over time by humans trying to basically brute force a way to transfer ideas to each other.
And so language is imperfect.
A good example is like, what does racism mean?
The left argues something else, probably in bad faith.
Conservatives argue something different.
So the AI were basically like, hey, we're not talking to humans.
Let's communicate the most effective way possible.
And they created their own language, which had substantially more words, was much more precise.
And then they started printing out.
There are people posting images of like this page of just what appears to be gibberish.
And then you could ask it to translate it to English for you.
That's what I see here.
The internet has isolated so many people.
Now, we've got two things happening.
The first video, we got retards in government.
And for this video, young people in such isolated pockets, they're starting to create their own language.
Now, this might not be a real person.
This might be an AI just grabbing the language used by these communities.
But we've seen this trend quite a bit of Gen Z saying things that sound completely insane.
And it's because you get 2,000 people in one community online and they never interact outside of it.
They will start saying weird things and speaking a different language.
It's quite literally how Latin breaks up into the Romance languages.
phil labonte
Yeah.
scott greer
I do think for this particular post, the guy realized that this was going to be ridiculous and made to and decided to put as many ridiculous words as possible in there to make, and it went viral, clearly.
But there is words like he is like mogging and munting and Foyd's and Moy's.
These are part of his.
tim pool
Yes.
scott greer
These are common internet parlance, but he decided to put this all into one tweet, which is why everyone loved it.
I mean, it's like a, it's a hilarious post.
I mean, just with like ridiculous.
tim pool
But watch this video as well and see your faith in humanity drain.
unidentified
My friend likes your cameraman.
tim pool
Cramer man.
unidentified
Cameraman likes you.
What's your name?
I want to eat.
Tell us your name.
Yo, W. His name is Kurt.
Kurt.
My friend likes your cameraman.
tim pool
This is real life.
I'm sorry.
Like when I was a teenager, I did not like we did not have these kinds of people where I grew up.
Everybody was lucid, you know.
elad eliahu
This is extremely common on college campuses.
Like this, every other.
tim pool
Not when I was hanging out at college campuses.
scott greer
I mean, it's common to see these types.
I mean, they would at least be smart enough to not do that on camera.
But the fact that there's like a cameraman, they're streaming, and then they go up and they say this type of stuff when that's going to be broadcast to at least there's like tens of thousands of people watching.
And then if it goes on to X or Twitter, it's going to be broadcast to millions of people.
You would know not to go up to a camera and say something like that.
tim pool
I saw a really funny video on Instagram earlier.
It's this what I assume is a young woman with insane amounts of surgery and lip fillers.
And it was like a chat roulette thing or whatever the kids are doing these days.
And the guy, there's a guy, a young guy, and he's talking to her and he goes, You're a guy.
And she's like, no, I'm not.
He's like, you are a guy, right?
You're a guy.
And she's like, why would you say that?
And he's like, oh, like, so the thing is, my theory on why women are starting to just get lip fillers and look this way is either intentionally or unintentionally, media is encouraging women to look like trans women.
elad eliahu
He's the female version of that.
He is.
scott greer
Yeah, they're looking small.
tim pool
He's taking the female version of trans women.
elad eliahu
Yeah, because they take surgeries and jokes to try to look like the male version.
Oh, male version of that.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
elad eliahu
By like bashing his face and trying to callus his, I don't know, his cheekbones and then taking steroids, obviously, and then I don't know, other stimulants to lose weight and whatnot.
scott greer
Yeah, that's necessary to mog the other moids.
How is he going to mog the moids if he is not breaking his mind?
tim pool
He's frail, though.
elad eliahu
He's like very frail.
He's a tiny man.
As far as like his to be on test to be that small, are you kidding?
Like, yeah, he's very times.
scott greer
He doesn't work out as much as other people.
He's like, thinks that that's it goes against his credo of some sort to try that hard to work out.
He just prefers like just taking the steroids and the supplements.
elad eliahu
I kind of think he does exemplify, though, a growing archetype of younger male who's just like looking to be out there with the girls, like have a good time, be liked, look to look smacked to what ends really attractive women.
This isn't uncommon.
tim pool
Right.
So we've got, we've got the clavicular Gen Zers.
You've got Zoomer Waffen, and then you've got a bunch of Kami Zoomers.
So the next generation will be screwed.
elad eliahu
Hopefully, back to Neocon.
scott greer
Well, we're going to have hope for the Zoomers.
Not all of them are either clavicular or communist.
I think Claviculars, he's like a real life comic book character and he goes out there.
I was comparing him to one to like, imagine a modern Borat type character who's this ridiculous person who shouldn't like exist as like normal people.
Cops and Cameras 00:07:08
scott greer
And he goes out and has these bizarre interactions with people that are pretty funny.
So I find a lot of his content funny.
I don't follow that closely, but what little I see, it amuses me and I can understand the entertainment value.
elad eliahu
So I'm not an avid watcher of his, but my favorite clip was when he was doing drugs on stream, gets a text from his father saying, like, you're such a disappointment.
I'm just going like, oh man, guys, my dad thinks I'm a loser.
scott greer
Yeah, it's like such a good clip.
elad eliahu
It was so good.
scott greer
It's the new level of reality charging.
It's better.
It's way funnier than like reality TV was in the 2000s.
And you could tell it was like too scripted and artificial.
This is much more real and I think a lot funnier.
It's also the fact that I think in the 2000s people, as we were saying, most people would see cameras in their face.
They're like, oh, I'm not going to say stupid.
phil labonte
No, I see.
scott greer
But now they're like, I'm absolutely going to say stupid stuff with a camera in my face.
phil labonte
This goes to an argument that I made before.
People that are in Gen X, some millennials, definitely boomers, they still care about privacy.
They still care about being able to control what people see and stuff like that.
Gen Z and younger millennials and Gen Alpha, they don't care because they assume that everything's recorded.
Because generally, everything is.
If you're in public, there's going to be a phone, there's going to be security cameras.
They just assume that there is no privacy anymore.
So they'll do whatever they're going to do with cameras in their face.
And that's largely because they just assume that cameras are watching, anyways.
scott greer
And I remember growing up, like there would be like they'd interview local old people on local TV and they'd be asking like, let me ask you about your pumpkin passion.
And these old people are like, I don't want to be on camera.
You know, it'd be something totally non-controversial and they'd get upset about the camera, but it's completed with Zoomers.
Zoomers see a camera and they run to it.
tim pool
I see a lot of those auditor videos and it's like the weirdest culture ever.
Have you seen the culture of auditors?
elad eliahu
I hate those.
tim pool
They're just like, I'm a guy and I'm going to go film whatever I want.
Now, to be fair, like people react poorly.
If I was walking down the street and there's a guy filming, I'd be like, hi.
elad eliahu
Wait, you know what they're actually trying to achieve, right?
tim pool
What?
Antagonize people?
elad eliahu
A lawsuit with law enforcement.
tim pool
There's stated reasons for what they're doing versus I disagree.
Sometimes they want lawsuits.
I think if you think about the principal motivation, it's likely boredom.
And they're asserting a purpose-driven meaning behind what they're doing.
That's what they call it, auditing.
They're saying, I'm so you're doing something that is intentionally antagonistic and you know it, and you're doing it because you're auditing whether or not they'll let you do it because it's First Amendment right stuff.
And that's why, like, bro, if you're walking down the street and someone's filming, you can just avoid the camera, you know, just go around them, walk the other way.
It's funny these people are like, you can't film me.
And they walk up to him.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
And yeah, or the auditor, they'll walk up to the auditor and be like, why are you filming here?
You can't film me.
And he's like, you walked up to me, lady.
So, but it is, it is like the most annoying content imaginable because I find the auditors themselves to be largely annoying.
And then I find the responses from the people around them to be substantially more annoying.
So the whole video is just an exercise in pure annoyance.
I'm like, swipe.
I'm not watching that garbage.
You know exactly how they're going to go.
phil labonte
It's just, it's like the sovereign citizens, right?
Like, you get pulled over.
Maybe the camera's not there, but they're there to push the cops' buttons.
They're like, all right, now's my chance.
elad eliahu
You know, they're trying to get out of something.
They're trying to get out of the dewy or something.
phil labonte
I'm not driving.
I'm traveling.
scott greer
And some of these guys aren't even doing it as kind of a troll.
They're like, it's like a really earnest, like, autism.
phil labonte
Yeah.
scott greer
And you almost start to root for the cop.
And sometimes the cop isn't even much of like being rooting for the cop.
Well, there's health, they will make you root for the cop when you're just like, I am not rolling down my window.
And you know what I love?
tim pool
I love how in all these body camera video videos, the person says, I want to talk to your supervisor.
Like, my guy, I don't think you understand how committing a crime works.
You can't ask for the manager when you've broken the law.
And there's a video I watched where the cop is like, man, your tag has expired.
So, you know, I'm going to need your license registration.
She goes, I want a supervisor.
He's like, I am the supervisor.
She's like, I want your supervisor.
He's like, no.
What do you think is going to happen?
phil labonte
You don't get to.
tim pool
He's like, you're getting a ticket.
You can call after.
People are nuts, dude.
I watched these videos are really crazy.
I did a big video.
I watched this video of this street racer as they crashed.
Car flipped over.
It was totally gnarly.
And this young woman just starts, she won't shut up.
She just keeps talking to the cops.
After they decide they're going to arrest her for street racing, she decides to have like a 10-minute conversation with them, explaining everything she did and why she shouldn't get arrested.
And do you know what she actually did?
Confessed to all of the crimes to the cops.
She goes, I know that I was speeding, but I wasn't speeding that much.
And I shouldn't be arrested because, you know, I saw the lights, but I had to stop.
You know, I had to, because the car had flipped over and I have first aid training, so I have to do it.
And then the cops are like, okay, well, you know, you're under arrest.
And then she just keeps going.
And I'm like, she's just confessing to all the crimes they're trying to charge her with.
This is people, what are they doing?
phil labonte
People are dumb.
And like a lot of times, people want validation.
They're like, look, I was doing the bad thing, which is, you know, admitting to committing a crime.
But here's the reason.
And so you should let me go because this real good justification for breaking the law.
tim pool
It's like, well, shut up, say nothing.
phil labonte
Cop to it.
tim pool
Get processed.
Take your court date.
phil labonte
Yep.
tim pool
Telling the cops anything doesn't help.
The most important thing to understand about talking to cops is that if they misremember, you're going to prison forever.
Like the assumption most people make is, oh, the cops aren't going to lie.
No, but they can make a mistake.
And that's the, and that happens quite a bit.
So she said something like, I forgot the analogy that I used.
She said, you could say something like, I wasn't speeding, right?
unidentified
You said, you, you could, you could speak with perfect elocution and enunciation and say, I was not speeding.
tim pool
Let's say you say it quickly and go, I wasn't speeding.
And the cop here, I was speeding.
And then he goes to court, stands on the stands.
He said, I was speeding.
And you go, no, no, no, no.
I said, I wasn't speeding.
And that's not what I heard.
So just don't say anything.
elad eliahu
This reminds me of a clip of an Asian man with a female officer just struggling and she shot.
He should end up getting shot.
But like, he made it sound like he was saying that he was driving drunk or something when he was just totally struggling to even communicate basic words.
tim pool
Have you seen the video of the, it's like an old video from the 90s of, I don't know if it was like a Scottish guy or something.
He had an ad in the newspaper saying, house for rent, no Asians.
And the reporter comes up and they were like, we saw this report in the newspaper saying no Asians.
He's like, yeah.
He's like, why no Asians?
And he goes, there are a bunch of crooks there.
And he's like, well, you can't say that.
And he's like, why not?
It's true.
And then he was like, this is a crime.
He's like, no, it's not.
And then he, and then he was like, the reporter's like, yeah, you can't discriminate.
You can't discriminate against people like this.
And he's like, well, I don't understand why you're so mad.
All they do is come in, do the listing for you, and then take a fee.
And then the reporter goes, agents.
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tim pool
You mean agents?
And he goes, yeah, agents.
So he calls it in.
He says, no agents.
And they write Asians.
And that's how you can find yourself in prison for hate speech.
phil labonte
Especially in the UK.
tim pool
Now, the funny thing is, if that happened today, he'd just get arrested.
And he'd be like, no, I said agents.
And they'd be like, agents?
Agents.
I can't speak English.
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Just Cause I'm Free says, I think more companies should do what Turning Point did.
Business Play Analysis 00:15:55
tim pool
Not a fan of country music, but it was better than listening to music I don't understand the lyrics to.
I want disturbed Metallica and ACDC.
phil labonte
There you go.
tim pool
I hear you on that one.
elad eliahu
We need all that remains.
phil labonte
I mean, it'd be nice.
elad eliahu
Hey, hit up Turning Point next year's show.
tim pool
Jay Dirtbiker says, Can we invoke the Communist Control Act already?
phil labonte
I wish.
It's still a law.
Like the Supreme Court has found sections of it unconstitutional, but the whole law is still a law, and they should enforce it.
They should say, all right.
No commies.
tim pool
B. Stevens says, Tim, you're so wrong.
It's sad.
The song they play at the bar, everyone knows, is Mr. Brightside.
I've never heard a Bohemian Rhapsody at a bar.
You are wrong, sir.
While it is correct that Mr. Brightside, I think, has had the longest run of top single sales.
It was crazy.
I think it was like, we were going over the math a few years ago, and Mr. Brightside, for a decade, stayed on the top sales chart forever.
And it is one of the worst songs imaginable.
I despise it.
I don't like it.
I will leave if it comes on.
And that's the point.
I've never been in a bar where everyone's saying Mr. Brightside, have you guys?
elad eliahu
No, no.
Yes.
tim pool
You have, where everyone's saying it is.
elad eliahu
And by the way, it's the number one white person song.
Like, the minorities don't love it, but white people live for Mr. Brightside.
unidentified
Totally.
tim pool
I hate that song.
elad eliahu
And they yell it at the top of their lungs, especially the dudes.
Are you kidding me?
I feel like that embodies young men feel like that extra.
tim pool
Maybe if you're at like a hipster bar.
elad eliahu
No, no, like mainstream, young, white.
tim pool
Yes.
What are you doing?
No, you're not going to go to a biker bar and have people sing Mr. Brightside, but they will sing the bad rationale in the hipster bars.
No, they're not.
elad eliahu
Yeah, they are.
tim pool
No, they're not.
elad eliahu
They are.
In my experience, they are.
tim pool
Spanish language ones.
elad eliahu
TT Me Progunta.
They love that song.
tim pool
Sing the first line from that song.
elad eliahu
TT Me Progunta.
tim pool
Is that actually it?
elad eliahu
Yeah, that's how it starts.
That's his number one hit song that he liked.
tim pool
I've never heard it.
scott greer
If you watched the Super Bowl last night, you heard it.
elad eliahu
You don't hang around a lot of Hispanics.
You're not around many Hispanics here in West Virginia.
tim pool
That's true.
But when did that song come out?
elad eliahu
Two years ago.
tim pool
I love that video where someone was asking football players what their favorite Bad Bunny song was.
And one guy goes, I don't know, but I think she's got some good ones.
The first time I heard Bad Bunny, I thought it was a woman.
I thought it was going to be some like Nicki Minaj type.
elad eliahu
I do think, though, this was a good business decision by the NFL to try to draw in more non-traditional fans to the sport.
It might have played better at a FIFA match.
tim pool
You are wrong.
elad eliahu
What?
Wrong about what?
tim pool
You want Spanish speakers from Puerto Rico, you can play Desposito.
And American English speakers will dance.
I guarantee you, if they played Desposito at the Super Bowl halftime show, I was at MGM, everybody would be singing.
Because even I know that song.
I don't know the words, but I know all the melodies of it and the harmonies.
elad eliahu
But Hispanics don't particularly love football.
They like soccer.
And I think they give them an excuse or a reason to watch.
tim pool
My point is, by choosing Bad Bunny, who was doing Spanish rap, which was largely a melodic, just words in Spanish, you made people leave the show.
Like we saw from those metrics, assuming they're true, around half the people watching the football, watching the Super Bowl left.
And I tuned that for sure.
I pulled up my phone and pulled up the halftime show.
If they played real music I knew, like here's the thing.
I was talking to people and I had my phone on and Kid Rock's playing.
And I said, I'm not a big Kid Rock fan, but I still have heard Ball with the Ball and Cowboy or whatever.
And if he's singing, I'm going to go, oh, yeah, I know this song.
Yeah, Ba with the Ba, whatever.
I had no idea.
Guys, I got to be honest.
I have no beef with anybody who likes Bad Bunny.
You're allowed to like whatever music you want.
That's always okay.
To me, it just sounds like, and I'm like, give me something I can attach to, like Gangnam style.
Hey, sexy lady.
elad eliahu
You just have an affinity for Koreans.
tim pool
It's not, give me the macarena, bro.
Give me the macarena.
And give me a melody.
Hey, macarena.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
And I can remember the hook, but like just rapping in Spanish amelodically, there's nothing happening that my brain can connect to.
I got no beef if you like that stuff.
I'm just saying, if they wanted to maximize audience and they wanted to reach an international market and get Spanish speakers, they could have had Shakira, I guess.
I don't know.
elad eliahu
I mean, I think that was their business play.
Whether or not it was how much of a personality is super politically divisive.
Yeah.
tim pool
And they created a mini Bud Light moment for no reason.
It was not a good business decision.
The general idea behind it of let's get a Spanish language artist to do the halftime show so we can push football into more markets.
Great idea.
You have to hybridize it because it's an American English speaking event.
You are trying to bring this to Spanish speakers.
You can't just throw it in the face of the Spanish speakers who don't watch football and then kick out the Americans.
This is the woke.
This is woke.
This is the problem of woke with all the stuff they do, aside from the weird culti-cycle garbage, is they're like, we're making Superman again.
Let's make him gay.
And you're like, no, stop.
Make a gay superhero if you must.
Don't make Superman.
So they made Superboy, and they were like, the new Super Boy comedy is going to be gay.
Or in the new Starfleet Academy, they're like, oh, there's a Klingon and he's gay.
And it's like, guys, no, stop.
Like, you can't just take something and then just jam it.
It's a square peg in a round hole.
They're just bashing with a hammer to force the fit, and it pisses everybody off, and it breaks the hole.
phil labonte
Yeah, I think the whole point of it was the demoralization and the subversion.
scott greer
Yeah, they had J-Lo and Shakira a few years ago, but that's not really what the young people are listening.
But the thing that the NFL is assuming that the people they piss off with the show, that they're going to stay no matter what, and that they're going to come back.
They might turn it off and go to the Turning Point USA, but they're still going to watch the game because there's no competitor to the NFL for that, for what they offer.
tim pool
In 2022, this is 55, they had, what do they have?
Eminem, Dr. Dre, Snoop, Mary J. Blige, and Kendrick Lamar.
Exactly.
Kendrick for the younger crowd, Eminem for the older crowd, and you're bringing everyone together for a big show.
That's how you do it.
And everybody praised it.
elad eliahu
Does it matter that Eminem took a knee during the show?
tim pool
I can complain about someone's politics, but when we're talking about the business decisions of the NFL, bringing on older and younger artists together because they're trying to create something that's going to appeal to everybody, I can respect that while saying Eminem shouldn't take a knee.
And then you have with this show with Bad Bunny, he may stream really well internationally, but Americans tuned out.
That's a terrible business decision.
You know what it is?
I'm going to say it like I said it for a Bud Light.
When the Bud Light thing happened, I said it's going to be some millennial woman who recently got promoted to the marketing department who decided to change their image.
And then sure enough, that's exactly who it turned out to be.
This woman who was like, we're going to not be the Frat Boys anymore.
And then she brought on Dylan Lulvaney, who I believe is a sociopath, and destroyed their brand for which they have never recovered, which is insane.
Here's the thing about what you want to talk about a bad business decision?
Whether or not Turning Point's show was good or bad, like all the corporate media being like, it was a boring show and it was stupid.
They shouldn't have done it.
Who cares?
They've got 20 million hits on YouTube.
You can discount Rumble.
You can discount the Charlie Kirk channel.
I'll say, Turning Point USA's YouTube channel got 20 million hits.
I do sales.
We have a sales team.
I guarantee you.
Turning point is now going to be able to, whether they do or not, because they're non-profit.
I don't know if they, if they will, they can now have their agent call every major brand and say, 20 million views, sponsor the spot.
We'll put you Turning Points halftime show brought to you by Coca-Cola or whatever, and we'll charge you X amount of dollars.
Why did the NFL create a competitor opportunity?
That is the stupidest thing you could possibly do.
They knew it was coming.
They knew people were pissed off.
They knew it was divisive.
And Bad Bunny said he was going to wear a dress.
And this was really controversial and ended up not doing it, probably because they were like, that's too much.
Or maybe it was a gag, whatever.
The point is, the moment the NFL knew they were splitting any amount of their audience.
Like, I got to be honest.
Imagine you sell t-shirts for a company and your marketing guy comes in and says, I got a great idea for our company.
We are going to excise 30% of our customer base.
You'd be like, what?
Why would we want to reduce our sales by 30%?
Because they're MAGA.
No, I'd rather not do that.
I'd rather keep making money.
We want more people, right?
If the argument is they brought in Bad Bunny because they want to reach more people, why cut out 30, 40%?
Which they basically did.
That's the stupidest business decision you could possibly make.
elad eliahu
There's a famous quote from Michael Jordan that said, Republicans buy sneakers too.
It's fake.
tim pool
Apocryphal.
elad eliahu
Now I'm fake news.
Never mind.
tim pool
He said, I think it was, yeah, Republicans buy shoes or conservatives buy shoes too.
elad eliahu
And it's a fake quote, you're saying.
tim pool
I'm pretty sure that is a fake quote that was hearsay from someone else who claimed Michael Jordan said something to that effect, and I think it was denied.
elad eliahu
I'm looking at an ESPN article that says, Michael Jordan stands firm on Republicans buy sneakers too, quote, says it was made injustice.
scott greer
Well, it was reflective of how he went about business because people wanted him to get involved in politics and endorse Democratic politicians.
And even if he didn't say that, that was still his mindset.
But the NFL isn't really going with that with the halftime shows as they've given it over to Jay-Z.
And Jay-Z has decided to do culture war with it and do things that is not going to please older Americans.
Because older Americans did not like last year's Super Bowl show either, had no older audiences or older audience artists.
And I think you make a good point is that in order to make it appealing, you'd have artists that they like and have them more featured.
Like if he did Shakira and Bad Bunny, I'm sure people would have been less upset about it.
tim pool
So clarification.
I was incorrect that it was apocryphal.
It was that it wasn't a serious comment.
It was a passive joke.
So I remember when this story got a lot of traction a few years ago, 2020, it was people were claiming that he was legitimately in a business meeting where he was like, Republicans buy sneakers too.
And that he was seriously saying, whereas it sounds at the time, it was a hearsay quote from someone else where they were like talking to him passively and he said something like, hey, Republicans buy shoes, right?
You know, it was meant to be more of a, I don't really care.
elad eliahu
That reflexive idea, though, is how people should be thinking, at least business-wise, when it comes to things like this, in my estimation.
tim pool
Imagine if I like came in here and just said, hey, I have an idea.
Let's kill, like, like reduce half the viewers of Timcast IRL for no reason by only speaking in Spanish.
Why would you do that ever?
Like, we're going to do Tim PSIRF for next year just in Spanish because we want to reach a new audience.
How about you do a Spanish translation version and everyone can like, why would you create an opportunity for your competition to do this?
It's just, it's remarkably dumb.
Anyway, we got to read more of these chats.
We've been prattling on.
Let's see.
NNY says, cool, a lot is here.
Please thank him for his pointed and direct question at the White House.
He drives me nuts, but we need that kind of pushback if we're going to get Trump to do anything but vanity projects.
phil labonte
Look at that.
elad eliahu
Thank you guys for keeping up with my work.
And I work hard in there for you guys, and I appreciate the support.
Thank you.
tim pool
Shergall says the equal sign thing is explained by S-Mime conversion probably from importing it for search purposes.
I think so, but it also appears in PDFs, like raw files that they published.
Anyway, what else we got?
Bueno Malio says, Tim, the equal sign is a text processing error for new line carriage returns.
Well, there you go.
Devin Grissom says, just a theory, but any chance all of the equal signs are typing errors from a boomer?
Well, we already figured out what exactly that was because people have pointed it out.
So thank you to all.
All right, let's see.
Samurai Ik Yokan says, Tim, your views are down because YouTube blocks feed from subs too.
So views are down for a few reasons.
Right now, our concurrent viewership peaked around like 41,000, I think, for the show, which is like political offseason pretty good for us.
So obviously every four years, there's a flow of politics.
In midterm years, we do pretty well.
Primary years, we do great.
Presidential election years are massive, millions of views.
It's crazy.
And then after the presidential election, everybody's views drop.
In the last, in 2021, we averaged around 27,000, 28,000 in the offseason.
We're averaging around 40K now.
We split between YouTube and Rumble, 41.
However, that is down from the 55 to 60 we were getting a couple weeks ago.
And that is likely due to the fact that I was out for a week, which means that people who watch the show principally for me don't tune in.
And then after a week, YouTube slows down recommendations to these individuals.
Then I come back, people start tuning back in.
They start touching for the show again.
Recommendations start increasing once more.
So I will also add that my morning show is the number one of the last 10.
So the way YouTube works is every video you put up, it shows you when you log in your video compared to the last nine videos and it ranks them.
If your videos are at least four and above every time you put a video up, that means your channel is growing.
If your videos are at five and they stay around five, that means you're stagnant.
If your videos every time you upload are five or below, it means your channel is shrinking.
So my morning show today was number one out of 10.
It was the most viewed of the morning shows I've put out in the last 10 days, working days.
So all in all, you know, it is what it is.
I've been afloat of politics.
If we were doing any other kind of content, we wouldn't be facing this.
It's a purely political thing, which negatively impacts political channels making money.
It's just a reality of it.
There's a lot of content that, you know, March 2020 or 2021 or 25, politics are over.
The money dries up.
Everybody's exhausted and nobody wants to hear it.
They want to go away.
Like, I did my job.
I'm done.
And they stop paying attention.
We're entering a midterm year now, though, which means all of these congressional candidates are going to be dumping insane amounts of money into their races.
It's the most important election ever.
And that's true because every election, it's getting more and more dire.
So everybody says it.
So I think we're going to be looking at one of the most expensive congressional runs ever.
It's life or death.
The Republicans, Trump administration specifically, knows if they lose this midterm, they're all going to prison and there's going to be impeachments.
So you are going to see money spent like you have not seen.
And that means, oh boy, we may, right now, politics ranks at like number 18 in CPMs.
For a midterm year, we shouldn't expect it, but I wouldn't be surprised.
I'm not saying it'll happen if political content becomes the number one CPM based on competition.
It may go down then with volume.
Finance right now is number one.
You make a video about finance, you're getting $20 to $40 CPMs.
It's bonkers.
Yeah.
That's crazy, right?
phil labonte
Financial audit.
Caleb's crushing it.
tim pool
Yeah.
Making Money Videos 00:03:39
phil labonte
Caleb Hammer on YouTube.
tim pool
Yeah, if you make videos, if you make videos about how to make money, student loan debt was really big.
Here's the secret.
If you track, you can actually look up the most valuable words for Google's algorithm.
It used to be much different 20 years ago back when it was just like for websites.
But there were people who would make mesothelioma websites.
That's all they would do.
phil labonte
Wow.
tim pool
Because the search volume, the CPMs were so massive, they were like $40 to $60, some insane number.
So people would go online, buy a domain, make a mesothelioma website, and then put ads on it.
Those ads would be for law firms and then compete for Google ranking and they were making insane amounts of money.
And student loans is always really big.
It's changed a little bit now because young people don't care for college and there's no young people.
But when millennials were in their mid to late 20s, student loan, student loan debt, debt forgiveness were all massive terms worth tons of money.
Meaning if your video contained those words, it would run ads against them that were related to this.
And you're getting paid.
phil labonte
Cashing in.
unidentified
Yep.
All right.
tim pool
SXDX says, look at the dislike ratio on Bad Bunny versus TPSA's show.
It's significant.
You can't see the actual dislikes anymore and it's fake.
People are downloading extensions where they have these extensions that say they can really show you the thumbs down.
It's not real.
I got hit up by somebody and they were like, yo, what's going on with your channel?
Like, all your videos are massively disliked.
And I was like, no, they aren't.
I was like, what do you mean they're all 98% thumbs up?
And he's like, that's not what I'm getting.
And I'm like, how are you getting that?
Because you can't see my dislikes anyway.
He had an extension and it was showing all my videos massively disliked.
So I just screenshot it and I was like, it's, bro, it's 12,000 likes with all thumbs up.
What are you talking about?
These things can't get internal data from YouTube and people think the dislike ratios are real.
You're seeing what you want to see, brother.
All right.
What do we got here?
Let's grab some more.
Alex Blenagawa says, Bad Bunny volunteers had height requirements for performance of between 5'7 and 5'10 and 6'1, depending on sources.
What happened to equity?
Give them platform shoes.
The equity guild is trait-based when it's them.
The equity guild are communists who will steal everything they can while claiming they're doing right.
Hassan Piker exemplifies this perfectly.
He'll electrocute his dog over and over again while pretending to be the good guy.
He'll buy a multi-million dollar mansion in one of the wealthiest parts of the country while talking about everyone getting ripped off.
And then he says he deserves it.
I mean, come on.
That dude, I'd be willing to bet I give more than he does.
And these liberals, I love this.
Elon Musk tweeted, money can't buy happiness, which is incorrect.
There's two ways to look at it.
First is that if you are poor, dirt poor, money will buy you a lot of happiness because it'll stabilize your life and it'll reduce a lot of your stress.
So you'll be very happy to get a sum of money that allows you to pay your bills and you might even cry with joy.
Secondly, Elon could buy tons of happiness for other people.
I'm not saying he should or has to, but if Elon goes to a diner and he spends 20 bucks on eggs and bacon, that waitress who's making 20, 30 bucks an hour, maybe if she's lucky with tips, he can write her a check.
He can write on the bill a thousand dollar tip, and he just bought a ton of happiness for her.
So I posted that and Hunter Avalon was like, in all caps, Tim Poole discovers empathy.
And then Olivia responded, she was like, from say that to the guy who offered to help you with anything you needed after someone tried to murder you.
Because after he was, froze I don't know, he was in West Virginia, someone broke and tried to murder him with his girlfriend.
And then I was like, bro, anything you need, you need a place to stay.
Empathy And Strangers 00:04:30
tim pool
We're not that far away.
We got you.
We'll take care of you.
And then he's just an asshole.
Sorry for swearing.
He's just a bad person.
And this is what the left is.
They pretend to be empathy.
They pretend to be nice while burning everything down.
My favorite is how they're like, oh, yeah, conservatives, you're against abortion.
How many people have you adopted?
Look at the stats.
Conservatives adopt substantially higher rates than liberals do.
Yet, you're the one.
Yeah, so don't make that.
Like, it's ridiculous.
They're just pretending.
Anyway, we're going to go to the uncensored portion of the show.
We're going to play a fun game.
We can play Ethno Guesser again.
That'll be fun.
Smash the like button.
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Oh, there's a new game we got to pull up.
There's a new game.
Yeah, we'll pull this one up.
It's figuring out which country the person was deported to.
We'll pull that one up.
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scott greer
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elad eliahu
Thanks for tuning in, everybody.
I hope you enjoyed the show.
I am Alad Eliyahu, the White House correspondent here at Timcast.
It was a fun episode, and I'm glad the show's back here and we're doing some more action here.
Well, we'll see.
And we'll see.
phil labonte
We'll see.
I am Phil the Remains on Twix.
The band is all that remains.
You can check us out at alltheremainsonline.com.
We're going on tour this spring.
We're going out with Born of Osiris and Dead Eyes.
We're starting in Albany on April 29th.
You can get tickets at alltheremainsonline.com.
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Don't forget the left lane is for crime.
tim pool
We will see you all over at rumble.com/slash Timcast IRL.
Thanks for hanging out.
Hey, look at that.
We got it working.
So, before we play Deport Guesser, we're going to have fun with this.
This is called Bandal.
This is the best.
I love this thing.
I played it like non-stop.
We have a song.
You know what?
With the people watching, we're going to get this song in like just the drums.
So, here's the way it works.
unidentified
What's going on?
tim pool
You got to do it.
So, it'll first play the drums, then the bass, and the guitar, and the organ, then the strings of the bells, and the voice, and then they'll give you a clue.
It's a song from 1998.
It's got 1.1 billion views on YouTube, and it's considered easy.
Can we guess the song from Just the Drums?
Anybody?
unidentified
Nope.
phil labonte
We got chat.
tim pool
Come on, chat.
That's it.
I know that we'll be able to get this.
We have so many people watching.
Hit me, baby, one more time.
Oh, maybe.
Still Got Points 00:14:21
tim pool
No, I don't think so.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
There's no organ in it, is there?
scott greer
Yeah, I don't remember an organ and hit me baby one more time.
tim pool
All right, nobody, we're skipping to the bass.
phil labonte
Actually, yeah, it is.
tim pool
Say me baby one more time?
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yep.
tim pool
Really?
unidentified
Oh, no, what's the actual name?
Oh, um.
tim pool
Oh, my God.
How do you spell Brittany's name?
unidentified
Oh, okay.
tim pool
It's Brittany.
elad eliahu
She puts up the best Instagram post, by the way.
tim pool
Oh, that was it.
scott greer
Okay, good job.
unidentified
That was it.
phil labonte
Yep.
tim pool
Wow.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
phil labonte
Once the bass came in, I was like, yeah, okay, all right.
tim pool
It's a great game.
Now we're going to play the next game.
Deportee Guesser.
Hey, let's go.
unidentified
Oh, so it's real people.
scott greer
Yeah, that's so good.
tim pool
David Herrera Rodriguez removed from Orlando, Florida for burglary and larceny.
Where did he come from?
phil labonte
Nicaragua.
tim pool
I'm going to say... I'm going to think it's like...
elad eliahu
This one, Honduras.
tim pool
Yeah, Honduras maybe, or I was thinking, no, Nicaragua was a good guess.
I actually.
scott greer
Islands, maybe.
tim pool
Islands?
scott greer
Yeah, one of those.
elad eliahu
He's too dark-skinned.
scott greer
I wanted to say Dominican, but it could be Cuba or Dominican Republic.
phil labonte
Could be Dominican.
I still go.
tim pool
Yeah, maybe.
Maybe Dominican.
scott greer
I'm going to go with Dominican Republic.
elad eliahu
This is some elite Hispanic knowledge right now.
When they hyphenate the last name like that, I forgot what it means, but it means.
tim pool
Okay, are we going Dominican Republic?
elad eliahu
That's one of the towels.
phil labonte
Dominican Republic.
unidentified
Oh, I kind of feel bad for him for something back there.
elad eliahu
Just kidding.
tim pool
We were pretty close.
scott greer
That should have known that.
You're in some of the Venezuelans are darker.
Okay, here we go.
tim pool
Oh, this guy's got to be like...
scott greer
Bode Kanu, he's got to be...
He's got to be...
tim pool
Nigeria?
elad eliahu
No, wait.
phil labonte
Haiti?
tim pool
Haiti?
Kanu?
unidentified
You think Haiti?
scott greer
Kanu does it.
tim pool
I don't think that guy's Haitian.
unidentified
He's Africa.
No.
tim pool
Yeah, he's Africa.
scott greer
He's Africa.
tim pool
So his offense is homicide, willful kill, weapon intimidation.
Oh, he's aggravated assault, family, strong arm, rape, strong arm.
scott greer
You're going to say West Africa?
tim pool
No, I don't think West Africa.
scott greer
Yeah, I think it's West Africa.
But where?
tim pool
Niger.
No, I don't think he's from.
Yeah, maybe.
scott greer
What Niger?
tim pool
Hortania?
elad eliahu
I think Sudan.
tim pool
You think?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
No, you're right.
I agree.
You're right.
Yup.
I think Sudan.
scott greer
That's actually a good choice.
tim pool
What is it, South Sudan or Sudan?
elad eliahu
No, I think he's from the north.
tim pool
Everyone agree?
phil labonte
Yep.
Try it.
tim pool
Oh, Sierra Leone.
scott greer
Should have stuck to my guns in West Africa.
tim pool
You were right.
scott greer
Should have stuck to my.
But the problem is there's so many countries in West Africa, so it's like, which one?
tim pool
Stephanie Moran Maldonado, Martinsville, Virginia.
scott greer
Okay, definitely Hispanic.
Definitely not Dominican.
tim pool
Oh, bro.
This has got to be Guatemala.
elad eliahu
Not too far.
tim pool
I'm going Guatemala.
phil labonte
Guatemala?
scott greer
Yeah, or El Salvador.
Yeah, one of those.
tim pool
Guatemala.
scott greer
Central America.
tim pool
Oh, Honduras.
elad eliahu
Very good.
tim pool
That was very close.
5,000 points.
5,000 points.
Look at that.
elad eliahu
Wild neglect.
Fucked up.
tim pool
I was thinking it was going to be one of the two, and I opted for Guatemala.
scott greer
Okay.
tim pool
Eddie Rivera Torres.
unidentified
Cuba.
tim pool
Yeah.
Crestview, Florida.
I think it might be Cuba.
unidentified
Cuba.
scott greer
What's he arrested for?
tim pool
He's very liked to avoid prosecution and confinement.
What does that mean?
elad eliahu
Uruguay.
phil labonte
My money's from Cuba.
tim pool
He's not from Uruguay, bro.
elad eliahu
That's what I'm thinking.
phil labonte
Cuba.
tim pool
Okay, well, Cuba?
phil labonte
I'm going with Cuba.
scott greer
Yeah, Cuba.
phil labonte
Nicaragua.
tim pool
Okay, but that was not big.
We still got some points.
scott greer
Wait a minute.
unidentified
Wait a minute.
scott greer
We shouldn't actually stop.
I don't think Cuba's taking back our deportees.
phil labonte
Oh, okay.
scott greer
Maybe I'd have to look that up.
tim pool
Okay, we got Musie Michael, Sandy Springs, Georgia, for robbery and robbery residence gun.
Where is this guy from?
I have no idea.
elad eliahu
Looks like he's from Chicago.
unidentified
Right?
tim pool
Deported him anyway.
phil labonte
Georgia had to be like, they sent him back to Atlanta.
tim pool
I don't think that's a Haiti guy.
scott greer
I think it's Haiti.
phil labonte
I think he's too light-skinned for Haiti.
tim pool
Look at the last.
Yeah, I agree.
elad eliahu
It's just any Hispanic-sounding black men are Asian, we're assuming.
scott greer
Well, it's a...
elad eliahu
No, it's just a fair...
tim pool
Yeah, DR. You think Dominican Republic?
elad eliahu
DR. Yeah.
tim pool
What do you guys think?
unidentified
Yeah?
elad eliahu
He's an islander.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean.
unidentified
Oh, Eric Trayo.
tim pool
Holy shit.
unidentified
Wow.
elad eliahu
We didn't give him his black credentials.
His African credentials.
tim pool
Seriously, wow, zero points.
scott greer
I should have stuck with it.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
Ramon Larios Williams.
unidentified
Homicide.
tim pool
From Rancho Cucamonga, California for homicide and false imprisonment.
phil labonte
That's a Mexican.
tim pool
Williams?
elad eliahu
It's a Mexican, you think?
tim pool
I see Mexico.
phil labonte
California.
No?
tim pool
Man.
elad eliahu
Venezuelan.
tim pool
No, I don't know.
I think he might be in the islands because Williams.
scott greer
Yeah.
elad eliahu
Is that a thing?
An island thing?
tim pool
Well, because you have more of a mix of different European settlers.
elad eliahu
Okay.
unidentified
All right.
I don't know.
tim pool
What do you guys think?
Are we going to say Dominican again and get completely wrong?
He's in Africa.
scott greer
Yeah, we should just keep going, Dominican.
elad eliahu
Nicaragua.
We're deporting a lot of people to Nicaragua.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
That's the Mustafar Kakar.
Okay, he's got to be what?
Like Afghanistan?
elad eliahu
I think a Middle East.
unidentified
Oh, that's right.
scott greer
That could be even Central Asia.
Hold on, let's see.
phil labonte
He could be like Kazakhstan.
elad eliahu
Like Georgia, maybe.
unidentified
But I don't know.
tim pool
Yeah, no, you're right.
Yeah, Georgia.
elad eliahu
Georgia.
tim pool
Oh, man.
I'm going to go with Turkmenistan.
scott greer
Mustafa is like a Muslim name, so it'd probably be Georgia.
tim pool
I'm going to go with Turkmenistan.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
What do you guys think?
phil labonte
Yeah, Turkmenistan.
tim pool
Close.
Close.
Turkey.
Turkey.
Still got some points on there.
elad eliahu
Enforcement of minors for indecent purposes.
Entitlement.
scott greer
We're not.
tim pool
No, we actually got 15,000 points.
Okay, we're doing better.
phil labonte
Hope's her name.
unidentified
Mexico.
phil labonte
Mexico.
elad eliahu
Have we got a Mexican?
tim pool
Illegal re-entry.
I'm saying Mexico all the way.
elad eliahu
Mexico, yeah, that's re-entry or tail-tailed Mexican sign.
tim pool
Boom.
unidentified
Boom!
Yeah.
elad eliahu
Was that the first?
tim pool
I'm like, that's a Mexican if I've ever seen it.
elad eliahu
Lis Cumplianos, everyone.
Is that how you say Halloween?
tim pool
Okay, can we say Eritrea again?
phil labonte
Oh, God.
tim pool
Husau Siad Dekan.
phil labonte
No, he's from Minnesota.
tim pool
Oh, Dekane.
scott greer
Minnesota.
elad eliahu
Somali.
scott greer
He looks like Somali.
Somali.
elad eliahu
You have to take the context clues when they give him Somalia.
unidentified
There you go.
tim pool
Context.
Context clues.
unidentified
Dylan.
phil labonte
He's got a big job.
elad eliahu
Well, Minnesota.
unidentified
Minneapolis.
phil labonte
All right.
tim pool
Here's our last one.
Here's our last one.
Oh, this is Vietnam, dude.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Fantavong?
Damn, you Vietnam Asian soul.
Oh, dude.
We genetically know who we're supposed to hate.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
You know what I mean?
elad eliahu
Okay, I could, but it could be Chinese.
tim pool
No, no, no.
phil labonte
I didn't say like Laos.
scott greer
That's either Columbia.
That could be Laos.
tim pool
Cambodia.
If it's not Vietnam.
Fantavong, I'm leaning Vietnam, but actually Laos.
scott greer
It has to be one of those three.
tim pool
Go with Cambodia, Laos or Vietnam.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Let's go with.
scott greer
I'm going to go with Laos.
tim pool
But it's only because it's a meme.
You know what I mean?
Like Laoshoe.
scott greer
They have been deporting a lot of late.
unidentified
They have been deporting a lot of people.
scott greer
We have been picking up a lot of people from Laos.
tim pool
Wow.
The last three we nailed for 29,920 points.
Eat that, bro.
phil labonte
That's right.
Get him out.
tim pool
Look at that, dude.
unidentified
Oh, look at this.
tim pool
We're in the top 12% of deportee guessers, dude.
phil labonte
Solid.
tim pool
Yeah, we got the skills.
Look at this guy.
Look at that.
elad eliahu
Can you give us more information?
What is this?
Where'd this come from?
phil labonte
Like a little racial profile.
tim pool
Wait, do we got?
Oh, we got more.
Look at this one.
scott greer
Sergei.
tim pool
Oh, this guy's going to be like Russia or something, right?
elad eliahu
I also want to call him Georgia.
tim pool
Sergei?
Come on.
phil labonte
Sergei, yeah.
scott greer
Yeah, I'd go with Russia.
tim pool
Russia?
unidentified
Ukraine.
phil labonte
Oh, Ukraine.
unidentified
Yeah, but that's little Russia.
phil labonte
Exactly.
scott greer
Well, they spell Sergei differently in Ukraine.
tim pool
Giuseppe defeati Del Ray Beach for larceny.
phil labonte
That dude's defeat.
tim pool
Italy?
scott greer
Yeah, I was going to say just go with Italy.
That's Italy.
tim pool
Triple wants to.
Who wants to say that name?
Olfemi Olfi Sayo Olatiola.
That's Nigeria?
Yeah, that's got to be like.
That's got to be Nigeria, right?
elad eliahu
Oh, look at that.
scott greer
We're doing much.
We're killing this one.
tim pool
Bro. Marvin Yemenez Solano.
I say Mexico.
unidentified
Yeah.
He looks like a Mexican.
phil labonte
From Texas.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Mexico.
scott greer
That's a Mexico.
tim pool
Costa Rica.
We've still got some points, though.
We still got some points.
We're doing good.
Carlos de Gerpena.
scott greer
Dominican.
tim pool
You think?
scott greer
I think Dominican.
tim pool
We've not nailed one Dominican.
It's like he's going to be investigating.
elad eliahu
That's probably Nicaragua.
unidentified
Actually, hold on.
scott greer
Nicaragua should say India.
tim pool
We still got some points, though.
We were close.
We were close.
phil labonte
I should have.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Joe Ow de Silva in Florida.
scott greer
Brazil.
tim pool
You think so?
scott greer
Yeah.
elad eliahu
Silva.
tim pool
Wait, what?
unidentified
Wait, what?
scott greer
Cape Faraday.
tim pool
Where is that?
It's not even showing us where that is.
It's just giving us the business.
Okay.
Well, I feel ripped off, but whatever.
Leonardo Rivera Henriquez.
elad eliahu
Illegal reentry, Mexican.
unidentified
Yeah.
scott greer
Yeah.
tim pool
Ah, Honduras.
We still got some points for it, though, but we got to get these two.
scott greer
Troy Edwards.
tim pool
What?
elad eliahu
Another one from Atlanta.
phil labonte
Yeah, he went back to the border.
unidentified
Wait, what?
phil labonte
They deported.
scott greer
Troy Edwards.
I guess that's like a maybe Jamaica?
phil labonte
Yeah.
Canada.
scott greer
Or Canada.
It's either Jamaica or Canada.
unidentified
We're going with Jamaica.
scott greer
Country.
tim pool
Trinidad and Tobago.
elad eliahu
That makes sense.
scott greer
Yeah.
phil labonte
Oh, Leo?
That's China.
scott greer
That's China.
tim pool
Yeah, it's China.
elad eliahu
His eyes, I will say, look more Japanese.
phil labonte
Yeah, China.
scott greer
There we go.
He's got a black Sabbath shirt on.
It's got to be Mexican.
tim pool
Fraud by Wire.
You think Mexican?
scott greer
We've been guessing wrong with Mexico, but you know.
tim pool
Fraud by Wire seems a little bit more.
I think Mexico is the safest bet.
Costa Rica again.
phil labonte
Again.
tim pool
Oh, we didn't do nearly as well.
elad eliahu
Still top 22.
unidentified
Oh, wait.
tim pool
Top 22.
Let's go one more round.
Let's go run a Yakir Zofi.
That's Turkey.
elad eliahu
From Michigan.
From Michigan.
tim pool
That's Turkey, isn't it?
Zophie?
elad eliahu
Could be.
Let's go for it.
Sexual assault?
Sounds turkey.
tim pool
Bakir?
phil labonte
They do that in Turkey.
scott greer
Let's just do.
elad eliahu
Yeah, they do that in Turkey.
tim pool
Israel.
I should have.
unidentified
Oh!
Oh!
Rod!
They're Matt deporting!
We found it!
scott greer
That's one guy they deported to Israel, and we got it wrong.
tim pool
Samuel Pena Contreras for domestic violence.
I just want to say Mexico again.
Because honestly, when I see these guys, they all look Mexican, right?
scott greer
A lot of these guys are from Central America.
Well, let's drink another random Central American country.
Like a lot of them have Guatemala, yeah, or something like that.
elad eliahu
Nicaragua.
tim pool
Ooh, El Salvador.
Look at that.
We got full marks, though.
We got full marks.
unidentified
Here we go.
scott greer
Yeah, we were very close.
tim pool
Jason Lewis.
Okay, is he Trinidad and Tobago again?
unidentified
Try it.
elad eliahu
Yeah, yeah.
scott greer
Well, or what's a few islands the same country this in the same round, so it could be Jamaica this time.
unidentified
Or was Troy Edwards in the crown?
tim pool
It was Jamaica.
Let's go.
Next up, we got Shahur Dari.
unidentified
Ooh.
phil labonte
Oh, this guy's dude from the Middle East.
elad eliahu
Grenada.
tim pool
Having a gun?
Granada?
elad eliahu
I'm feeling Granada on this guy.
tim pool
You just wanted to say Granada.
elad eliahu
But here, ever since we said Trinidad.
tim pool
He's not Granada.
elad eliahu
Did you see a Middle Eastern guy in this?
tim pool
No, he's he's he's Kyrgyz or something.
phil labonte
Kyrgyzstan?
tim pool
Dari?
That's got to be dude.
I can't tell.
He's ethnically ambiguous.
I've ever seen a man.
Shahur?
Let's just say Syria.
Nah.
elad eliahu
Maybe he's mixed.
tim pool
Oman?
phil labonte
No, I think they're mostly dark.
Yemen, aren't they?
elad eliahu
And possession of Iraq.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
I think Iraq.
unidentified
Yeah, let's say.
phil labonte
Why not?
Let's see.
scott greer
Let's see.
Hey, George.
unidentified
Pretty good.
tim pool
We got good marks on that one, though.
We got good marks.
Next up, we got Kosal Che.
phil labonte
Ooh.
scott greer
Asian.
phil labonte
He's Asian.
tim pool
Yeah, but where Asian?
scott greer
Oh, no, not Kosol.
Malaysia?
tim pool
His name was Martinez, I'd say Philippines.
scott greer
Yeah, Malaysia, maybe Malaysia.
unidentified
What I don't know what their, I don't know what their names are in Malaysia, but hey, Cambodia, still good, still good.
tim pool
We're tracking pretty well.
Yemenez, Angel Yemenis.
elad eliahu
Drug trafficking.
phil labonte
That's got to be Honduras, super ambiguous.
tim pool
Yemenez.
scott greer
This could finally be our first Dominican.
elad eliahu
I think this is.
scott greer
We've been wanting to guess Dominican.
unidentified
Yay!
There we go.
scott greer
I knew it.
They had to finally give us a Dominican.
tim pool
Luiz Lara Ruiz.
phil labonte
From Godna.
elad eliahu
Nicaragua.
phil labonte
From Godna.
tim pool
Yeah, Nicaragua, maybe.
scott greer
I would go Nicaragua.
tim pool
Hey, okay.
Oh, another Deco.
scott greer
They saved him up.
tim pool
Oh, Nguyen is Vietnam, isn't it?
scott greer
Yeah, Vietnam.
100%.
elad eliahu
Would he do kidnapping?
scott greer
Yeah, Vietnam.
unidentified
Yup.
Yep.
tim pool
Dang, we got 32,000 points on this one, bro.
Patel.
elad eliahu
Oh, Pakistan.
scott greer
India.
elad eliahu
Yeah, India for sure.
I think that was our first Indian.
phil labonte
That was easy.
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