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Donald Trump is sending 2,000 federal agents into Minnesota over the immigration problems, the fraud cases.
There's even been rumors floating for some time now that they could denaturalize and deport Ilhan Omar because the White House themselves tweeted she married her brother.
That's immigration fraud.
And the law is clear.
If you commit immigration fraud, they can denaturalize and deport.
We'll talk about that.
Then Tim Waltz's daughter has come out in a podcast and admitted, yeah, there's Somali daycare fraud going on in the state.
So it's funny that all these liberals rushed out to defend these daycares saying, what do you mean?
They're all totally legitimate.
And then she's like, well, my dad's resigning.
But yeah, there's enough truth to that that, you know, it's actually happening.
And then Donald Trump putting out a truth post saying that we're going to take large quantities of oil from Venezuela and sell it.
And he's going to be the one managing the money because, you know, you got to make sure it's done right.
But of course, it was always about the oil.
The question is, is it good for America?
And there's a big question in this as to how the right has been reacting to the actions of Donald Trump and to each other, to be completely honest, because there is, of course, this civil war among the right with various personalities fracturing off into different factions.
Same time, what I absolutely love about this Venezuela story is corporate press, some of which are still attacking Trump no matter what he does is wrong.
Some of which have gone rather neutral and are now just saying Trump, the president, and you know, took out the president of Venezuela and is going to take their oil instead of saying, you know, Trump, comba, convicted, sex offender, and fraudster.
They're running it neutral, which you get it.
Trump says we're going to go into a foreign country.
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There's going to be war.
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2,000 federal agents are being deployed to Minneapolis in an escalated immigration push.
Here's what we know: they say in the days since a conservative content creator raised allegations of fraud in a YouTube video with little evidence.
I love how they do this.
Okay.
I love how they just, because look at what they're saying, right?
A conservative content.
They could call him a journalist.
They could.
Allegations of fraud in a YouTube video with little evidence about Somali-run daycare centers.
Here's the New York Post.
Tim Waltz's firebrand daughter, Hope, admits there is enough truth in the Minnesota fraud scandal as she opens up about her dad's decision to drop out of the governor's race.
I love that they do these things.
CNN just peppers the lies into these stories.
And then at the same time, you get the daughter of the Democrat resigning, being like, yeah, this is basically happening.
So major escalation.
Here's the weird, the weird stuff going on right now, okay?
Obviously, we'll talk about this.
I'm going online and I'm seeing a bunch of people on the right attacking Trump.
You know, Dan Bongino announced he's coming back.
People are attacking Dan Bongino.
And I'm just sitting here being like, are we not happy that 2,000 federal agents are being deployed?
Like, I'm not going to sit here and pretend that Trump is perfect and does everything right all the time, nor that he's evil and wrong and doing everything wrong all the time.
I'm not going to sit here and pretend that Dan Bongino walked through the doors of the FBI and instantly just turned into an evil demon.
That's ridiculous.
There's politics involved and not everything gets done the way you want to get done.
What is happening to where so many people are like, I've just decided Trump's bad now and I've just decided Dan Bongino's bad now.
It's like, bro, you were allowed to criticize them for screwing up and doing bad things, but we're looking at the story about what's going on in Minneapolis and they're responding quickly with something good.
They get the ice cream, they get the whipped cream, but they don't get the cherry on top.
And that's the problem.
They're mad.
They're just having a temper tantrum because they didn't get everything they want.
The people that are really upset are the people that believe in their heart that there are people in the government or in the Epstein files or what have you that actually were pedophiles that were raping kids.
And they already believe that.
And so what they want is confirmation of what they already believe.
You know, I don't know, but because Dan Bongino was head of the FBI and didn't give them what they want or deputy head, deputy of the FBI, and because he didn't give them what they want, well, he must be hiding the information for the FBI.
Well, I've been down the road from where Dan worked over at the Pentagon, really across the bridge or whatever.
I've said from the very beginning, everything with Dan Bongino, look, I know what Dan gave up because I know what we had to give up to go do a very similar thing at the Pentagon.
I've said from the very beginning, I trust Dan.
Do I necessarily trust every agent that gave Dan everything that he asked for and it was given to him in its entirety how it was originally?
No.
Just like I saw with Secretary Hagseth, he would ask for things and it would come in halves or not the whole thing or things would be left out.
We have let the American people believe that everything is just to Tim's point instant like that.
And I do believe that people thought that Dan Bongino was going to walk in the FBI building.
He was going to grab people like Comey by the throat and throw them in jail for the rest of their lives with no due process, no trials, no nothing.
And if you actually look at what Dan did get accomplished, it actually is very impressive.
And I believe that even more things are going to happen now that he's out from things that he initiated, got started, policies in place.
They reorganized the entire structure of the FBI.
I was in his office when he showed it to me.
The entire structure on how the FBI was organized.
Dan Bongino and Kash Patel eradicated, fired, got rid of, reorganized everything.
But normal people don't see that stuff and they don't realize how important that is as they move forward.
I'm going to derail everything and just say that I think big tech and prominent influencers like Candace Owens are intentionally trying to destroy the right.
And so YouTube puts Candace on the front page.
That's how she gets massive viewership, largely.
It's promotion.
And they're doing it because it's destabilizing to the right.
Dan Bongino, and it feels rather coordinated.
We can get super conspiratorial.
How do you get rid of Dan Bongino, who's getting 150k concurrence on Rumble?
Bring him to the White House, bring him to the FBI.
He goes in.
It's an immovable object.
He's unable to get these things.
Then they immediately send out their propped-up influencers to accuse him of being evil when it's more like it's politics.
I can criticize Dan all day for I'm disappointed and Donald Trump for things I think did wrong as well.
But I'm not stupid.
I praise the things they do right.
And if not Dan, then who?
But I take a look at what's going on right now.
And you've got, there was one post where I want to stress this.
Like we have a deal, we have a sponsorship with Caul Shi, major competitor polymarket.
And then you get this viral post where someone posted Tim Poole's part of the 7K Polymarket Network, you know, funded by Israel to go after Candace Owens.
And I'm like, we have a sponsorship deal with their competitor.
But it's, you go on X and you're seeing all these prominent people on the right just saying the stupidest things in the world.
You've got people that are just screaming the Jews non-stop.
Candace Owens comes out and says we invaded Venezuela for Zionists.
And it's like, what?
That's just like an incongruent statement.
But there are a lot of prominent people that people have been in the show.
I got a message.
I don't know.
It might have been you.
Someone messaged me saying, Tim, why are so many of your former guests backstabbing you?
And I'm like, yeah, I don't know.
Weird stuff going on.
And then I'll give a shout out to Matt Strickland, the guy from VA, who during COVID, the state came and seized all his liquor and shut him down.
So we rallied, brought him on the show, went down to support him.
And then what does he do?
He goes on X, makes up a fake story about us having no security, lies and claims he went to our Virginia Studio.
He's never been to, so that he can just say Tim Poole's an Israel guy.
I'm like, I'm looking at all this going, wow, why would he do that?
Well, here's what I think, right?
We're talking about, and I know we derailed largely from the principle story that we're bringing up: Trump deploying 2,000 feds over this immigration stuff.
Good.
Exactly.
I'm like, I'm really happy about what's going on.
But for some reason, I go on X and all of these, not every single one, but most of these prominent, I shouldn't say most of, but many prominent right-wing people have flipped on a dime.
Their opinions are inverted.
Trump is bad now.
Everything he's doing is wrong.
And it's the Jews.
And I'm just like, I don't understand how some of these high-profile people flipped on a dime.
Seriously, it makes no sense.
I do understand how the lesser personalities are doing it because they're just grifters.
So my opinion generally right now is that why is it that Candace Owens is propped up on the front page of YouTube?
And my front page, there's no default front page, but why is YouTube recommending someone breaking their rules to so many people?
It destroys the right populist movement in a midterm year, which we're entering, and Trump's going to get impeached.
So then what happens?
People like Matt Strickland, a disloyal betrayer who the lowest circle of hell is reserved for, knife me in the back by lying about us, leaving me shocked.
He could call me on the phone.
Well, people like him, he's a grifter.
Yes, he was wronged by the government.
We came to his aid.
But what he's looking at is how do I get more?
And so if all of these people are watching Candace and she's doing so well, I should be like her.
And one by one, these retards march in lockstep with their crackpot worldview.
I mean, the influencer things, I mean, it's going to happen.
People want to make money.
They want to be famous.
They want to have clicks and likes.
I'm more concerned about the general population that follows along with this, right?
What is their mindset for hearing these things and saying, I believe these things, these things to be true?
And I think it's because it's very simple.
They want to blame someone.
They want to have a name for it, right?
And the easiest way to do that is say the people who are in charge, those are the names that I'm not going to blame because what happened to kids is terrible.
We can all agree on that.
And when you have evidence come out that's redacted, when you have, you know, people think they're slowing it down, they want to blame someone because what happened was terrible.
But they didn't just walk in.
There's not some room where all the information, all the files are sitting there with a nice little pretty bow on it and they're not being walked through this.
That's not real at all.
And investigations do take time.
This has been a 20-year process, right, with Jeffrey Epstein.
It's been a very long time.
And I mean, nothing's going to come out for it.
It's not going to happen.
And I don't think the left would have been, look, I'm not a criminal mastermind.
I did take down the entire government, you know, in the course of 20 minutes, but I wouldn't leave things behind that incriminated myself and my friends on the way out the door.
There's no button at the DOJ or DHS or any of these organizations.
There's no fix everything button that like you can just press and immediately solve everything.
And then these people who operate in this sort of outrage, that's where all the incentive structures point to is outrage, click, click, rage baiting, that sort of thing.
You can't expect them to understand prudence.
Like that's what the Trump administration is doing here.
They're being prudent.
They're being careful.
They're being calculated because that's how you maintain power.
I think with like the Epstein stuff, Trump wants to wield the one ring.
Trump gets in and is like, no, no, no, the Epstein stuff.
I think it largely has to do with the petrodollar.
I think we're going to find Saudi princes on the list.
I think Trump is like, I'm trying to renegotiate a contract with Saudi Arabia.
And if these princes are ousted, it's going to jam up our petrodollar negotiations.
Democrats are playing a game of chicken where they're basically like, if we can't have the ball, nobody can.
So the reason why these liberals are coming out being like Epstein and they're screaming about it is because they know Trump's between a rock and a hard place on the petrodollar deal.
You've got Democrats who demanded we remove Maduro, now claiming Trump's wrong for removing Maduro.
It's insane.
The question then becomes, why are people on the right all of a sudden on board with this?
Well, the Democrats got smart.
They tried in 2018 to censor and ban people who oppose the Uniparty establishment machine, and it did not work.
It backfired.
Some people did get banned.
That did work.
But for the most part, Trump's back.
Guess what?
Charlie Kirk is dead.
If you take a look at all of the machines and mechanisms that helped Trump and the populist movement win, and the Uniparty establishment got knocked down to an extreme degree, these things are being fundamentally dismantled.
With Charlie Kirk's assassination, the attacks on Erica Kirk.
Listen, you're allowed to not like Erica Kirk, but she's not really that much in the spotlight.
I saw this video of a woman insulting her, and I just, I thought to myself, like, I don't understand what Erica Kirk has done to warrant this extended campaign of people attacking her.
But to do these like insults, mockeries, accusing her of knowing about her husband's assassination, I'm just like, what did she do?
I don't look.
I can look at Nancy Pelosi and talk about the insider trading and be like scumbag.
I can look at Chuck Schumer, similar things and be like Democrat, Uniparty Shill, scumbag, Lindsey Graham, all these things.
Erica Kirk's barely been in the spotlight.
What the is going on?
Where tons of prominent right-wing personalities are marching in lockstep with this inverted narrative overnight?
Trump wins like flipping on a dime.
All these conservatives are now living in this crazy world of conspiracies.
The French legions, the Jews, Israel forced us to invade Venezuela.
And when you look at what is happening, remove intent from all of it.
I just look at the actions.
What have we seen so far?
Dan Bongino is now a villain.
He was the hero.
They were celebrating.
Kash Patel, the same thing.
Everybody campaigning.
They're unsatisfied with what they were able to get done.
Sure.
I look at what Trump did in his first term and I say, yeah, Trump did good, but messed a lot of things up.
I voted for him again.
I don't expect him to get everything done perfectly.
We said it over and over again.
Now, Dan and Cash are villains.
Now, Marjorie Taylor Greene is out.
You've got Matt Gates in a, I don't have too much bet.
I don't have anything really to say about Matt Gates critically, but he is moving away and him and Dan are now at odds.
You've got the death, the assassination of Charlie Kirk, which has negatively impacted Turning Point, which was a massive force organizing for the right populist movement.
And you've got Candace Owens being propped up and effectively driving the normie mainstream right and suburban moms into retardation.
I'm like, I look at all of this and the one thing I say, the one thing I see that says to me it's intentional is that Candace has broken every rule on YouTube.
I mean it figuratively.
She's broken tons of the rules and YouTube makes sure she's propped up.
And I will add this too, because it's not about her.
I know people are going to be like, who Cruzbook is?
It's not about her.
It's about big tech and what big tech is doing.
Earlier today, on my following feed on X, I screenshotted this.
I shared it internally.
I got a post from Candace Owens on my following feed, not my for you.
I don't go to the for you.
It was following people I follow in reverse chronological recent to see what's coming in the news.
I don't follow Candace Owens on X. Why was her post in my feed?
Why is she being put up on the front page of YouTube?
Why is she breaking the rules and being propped up while saying retarded things that is resulting in people, some of whom used to watch this show, believing retarded things, come the midterms?
These people are anti-Trump now.
And they're anti-Republican, and it's going to help Democrats win.
So my opinion is, and this is a hypothesis, not a theory, Democrats realize censorship doesn't work.
What you have to do is control the opposition, infect the right with retardation.
So what do you have?
Trump wins in 2020, 2024 with suburban housewives.
Okay, get rid of them.
How do you do it?
You need a female-coated show to make all the women anti-Trump.
And that's the move they're making because of RFK Jr., this happened.
I look at all this stuff right now and I'm like, it's intentional.
It's coordinated.
The Democrats are going to win in the midterms.
Trump will be impeached.
And then who knows if JD Vance will win because Gripers don't want him.
Neocons don't want him.
So what support base will he have left?
MAGA?
No.
Most of the MAGA people are, I shouldn't say most, but MAGA is being split between those who are now critical of Trump and prominent Trump personalities.
Meaning, if I was going to make a bet on Call She or Paulie Market, I wouldn't bet on JD Vance at this point because the right's fractured.
Now, to be fair, maybe he still does win the primary, but if the Democrats can muster up a middling marginal figure, maybe Newsome, I don't know, with the fracturing on the right, how do the Republicans even win in 2028?
Charlie Kirk was going to be the VP.
That was the exclusive reporting, and they killed him.
But this is what's necessary to elevate the levels of deportations to the level that people have been saying for the past year that they want to see.
There's so many people that are so blackpilled on how many people are not getting deported.
There's not enough deportations.
If there was 20 million people that came in, they're not doing even close.
They're going to get rid of maybe a couple hundred thousand or maybe half a million.
That's not close, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Which fair enough.
I understand that the numbers don't, you know, the math isn't math.
And at the same time, you need to have funding to get this stuff done.
That's what the Big Beautiful Bill had.
That was one of the reasons that Trump was saying this has to pass because we need this kind of injection of cash to be able to do the deportations that we need to.
We need to expand ICE.
Now that it's here, people are not really even paying attention.
I want to address this comment on Rumble where they said, you shut up in your following because someone you follow comed on her post.
How do you not know this?
Wrong.
Of course, I know this.
I buy ads.
I operate on all these social media platforms.
I own a multi-million dollar company with 40-plus staffers operating on all these social media platforms.
Okay.
This was weird.
A post from her showed up on my feed in my following recent on X.
No comments, no retweets.
I don't follow her.
Why?
Honest question.
Was it a glitch?
A glitch put Candace Owens in my personal feed?
I called her a very disparaging term on this show.
I don't follow her on X. There was no comment made on her post.
I have the screenshot.
Maybe I should just tweet it out and say, like, this is really weird.
Why is X pushing her into my feed?
There was no comment.
I fully understand.
If someone I follow comments another person's post, you will see their post and their comment.
This is not that case.
I genuinely believe that big tech is propping up Candace Owens because she says retarded shit and she's tricking conservatives into being retarded.
And there are a bunch of people who used to, who have been on the show several times that I've considered friends who now don't want to come on the show and they're tweeting about the Jews nonstop.
They sound like they're fucking retarded.
By all means, criticize Israel.
By all means, criticize those prominent Jews in media with agendas, but y'all sound like retards.
And if you go to a suburban housewife and you say, this is the Jews, they're going to be like, I'm just trying to buy diapers.
You've got all these black pilled people that talk about people like us and, oh, it's the Jews and they're bought for and all this and kind of stuff.
In my opinion, that's the new litmus test of who the real grifters and who the real traders are.
And what I mean by that is everyone that does this for a living, you know, certain things.
We had this very conversation.
I would be shocked if you guys didn't have it on the show here election night.
We all looked at each other and said, you know, if Trump wins, we're probably going to lose 25, 30% of revenue next year because in good times, advertisers don't buy.
I mean, that's just kind of how things work, right?
This is a business after all.
The same people, the same people that are now attacking Trump and all of this, how do you make up for that revenue?
How do you make up for that?
You go after the thing that causes division that people are paying for.
I've said this a million times.
It's not just Candace Owens.
Warn everyone that listens to talking heads.
We know for a fact in Congress.
We know for a fact that Youtube and everything absolutely admitted that they were censoring, shadow banning uh, deplatforming people.
But yet you have all of these conservatives that blew up during the Biden administration and are blowing up and being featured now, that are breaking every rule and all of this and back when they were on the conservative train and Pro-Trump, they still somehow were making it.
All of them are now on my watch list, every single one of them.
I don't trust a thing that any of them say, because how, how do you, how do you grow in that time if you're actually speaking the things that they claim were bad?
Still, I was talking to a guy on sunday and he was like what happened?
Yeah, i'm like wow.
And then you go online and these prominent personalities are starting to align around weird things that are not in the zeitgeist.
Israel Cutter is not in the.
Okay, you go outside.
Uh, i'm driving in Loudoun County right so, so our studio which uh, we're not going back to after following the shooting I think this is clear to everybody there were people who were like Tim's full of it, he'll be back watch.
And like, no, we're, we're not, we we're shot at we, we live.
We were in West Virginia and so we're about 30 seconds away from Loudoun County.
Loudoun County is where, at the school that uh, that father's daughter uh, that young girl, was raped and the father went in and screamed.
They dragged him out.
When you would drive into Louden, there are parents outside holding up signs protesting.
We went to it's the Catoctin Skate park, look it up, and this is around that time, and we could see tables set up and parents were pamphleting.
That's real world stuff.
Yeah, masks during Covid, we would go places and see the mask signs real world stuff.
Literally nowhere anywhere do I go outside and see people going.
Israel, no cutter.
Israel is the Jews doesn't exist yeah, and so i'm sitting there be like, why are they talking about this why?
Why are podcasts focusing on this it's?
Why are prominent conservative personalities accusing Trump of being a zionist?
Yeah well, yeah well, and like, Trump has these like supposed crises where the entire well, this sort of apparatus that we're describing like, comes out and they're like, this is the end of Trump.
Trump's betrayed us.
And you look at the polling and nothing changes.
Nothing budges, because the average American is just like not paying attention to these weird, like esoteric stories.
They're concerned about prices of things.
They are concerned about like is the illegal immigration topic being tackled, stuff that they can feel and see in their everyday life?
I think the reality is that everything is fake and gay.
That's true.
I think that what the algorithm is on YouTube and X and all these places, literally except Rumble, are intentionally allowed.
I said this about our show years ago.
People were like, Tim, why is your show doing so well?
It's a pressure release valve.
The machine state allows us to operate on YouTube because, at least for the time being, they did.
Because we were, you know, I described it like there's an island and the cliffsides are eroding.
They wipe out most conservatives and keep the moderates to be the right.
So that's why they allow us to exist because if you come out and just ban literally anybody aligned with this worldview, then you cause a shockwave.
You get riots, you get protests.
And that's literally what happened.
And they realized it wasn't working.
So they're shifting their method now and saying, no, no, we need to be the right.
We need to control them.
I think it's all fake.
I think they're intentionally propping up certain posts.
I think retweets, likes, comments, they're mostly botted and fake.
There was a viral clip where this woman on Twitch accidentally revealed that she understood how botting worked.
Basically, it was like they were doing a live stream, and then someone mentioned botting.
She goes, well, you know, it would cost you like 50K to do this.
And a guy turns and goes, how do you know how much it costs to bot?
And then she like, I just, I know people.
It's like, right.
Whether it's private or intentional, think about how a government can control its people, especially following the Trump movement.
It's possible.
I'm not saying I know for sure, but here's a hypothesis.
With the rise of the internet, they didn't expect a movement to emerge that would elect someone like Donald Trump.
They thought Trump would lose.
Hillary Clinton was very unlikable.
And with meme magic, they call it, a movement was built that actually got Trump a little bit more votes than the machine state expected.
Trump wins.
What do they do?
Accuse him of being a Russian spy, impeach him, accuse him of crimes.
Eventually, Joe Biden.
We have questions about the 2020 election.
And it's funny because I have these people tweeting at me being like, oh, no, I don't bullet election fraud.
No.
Pennsylvania changed their election rules in violation of their state constitution.
Every stop was pulled out to make sure Trump would lose.
Well, guess what?
What happened?
Thanks to the intrepid work of Turning Point USA.
And I genuinely mean of Turning Point USA.
Charlie Kirk got young people to vote conservative.
Now look at what's going on.
They killed him.
And by they, I mean interested parties who opposed what Charlie did, whoever you think it was.
He's gone.
It seems now that the realization was we have to, we are going to actually control the narratives, what's allowed.
Our show is allowed as a pressure release valve.
They ban Alex Jones.
They ban Nick Fuentes and all these people.
Now they're basically like, let's be these people.
The algorithm promotes people who are clearly breaking the rules, as we already described, and you're wondering why it is.
And the lesser personalities march in lockstep because they see someone getting 3,000 retweets posting Zejus.
But I'm going to say it again.
When I go outside and I see parents protesting that a boy was in a girl's bathroom and raped her, I see people in Louden County protesting.
I go to a poker table, which is usually the basis of my conversations if you watch this show.
Or I go to a venue or a restaurant or meet someone in person.
There are real tangible things they're talking about.
Even Venezuela is not one of them.
Foreign policy stuff is beyond people.
But Israel is certainly not there.
But for these people online, it's very clear to me, maybe I'm wrong, but it's very clear to see.
People following a political narrative that is not attached to the regular working class person is it seems intentional so that the issues in this midterm election are detached from the working class person.
Prominent conservative personalities, libertarians, conservative, or otherwise, who used to go on shows like this and say, we need cheaper gas.
We need to secure our borders.
We got to stop the fraud are now going the Jews.
And if you go to a regular working class person and say, would you help me fight the Jews?
They're going to say, huh?
And if you go to them and say, would you help me secure the border, deal with this illegal immigration so we can stop the murder and the crime, they go, yeah, I heard about that.
There are people who talk to me every day about, or our routine conversation here is about illegal immigration in Chicago, how they're giving away property and community centers to illegal immigrants, how they're giving hotels to illegal immigrants in New York City.
These things affect regular people.
Gen Z, people being like, I can't afford a home, and I'm watching them put up these hotels for illegal immigrants.
Now, what are people talking about on social media?
No, no.
The Venezuela thing was the Jews again.
And I'm like, okay, good luck winning a midterm election.
That being said, I do think we've talked about that quite a bit.
So we should jump to this next story.
We've got this from the White House, indeed.
President Donald J. Trump announces interim authorities in Venezuela will be turning over between 30 and 50 million barrels of high quality sanctioned oil to the good old US of A. Trump truthed.
I am pleased to announce the interim authorities in Venezuela will be turning over between 30 and 50 million barrels of high quality sanctioned oils to the U.S.
The oil will be sold at its market price, and that money will be controlled by me as president of the United States of America to ensure it is used to benefit the people of Venezuela and the United States.
I've asked Energy Secretary Chris Wright to execute this plan immediately.
It will be taken by storage ships and brought directly to unloading docks in the United States.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
So just a moment ago, we were talking about the weird trends and the shift in narrative.
Let me put it like this.
Let me ask this.
Why are there people who are effectively on effectively, I don't mean literally, but effectively on the side of Chinese expansion?
Honest question.
Venezuela in the 2000s seized American oil assets, stole it from us, billions of dollars, and we did nothing.
We sanctioned them.
We say that's BS.
Now you've got a combination of factors, including the narco-terrorism stuff, narco-gangs, crime, expansion, but more importantly, Iran and China operating through Venezuela, and Venezuela selling oil that we've sanctioned to Iran and China.
China has to import a lot of this oil.
Why would we just allow them to do this?
They have aggressed upon us a long time ago.
There's already conflict and they're aiding and abetting China.
I'm not suggesting it's good that we went in and snatched Maduro, but I am saying this does benefit the United States more than, say, Afghanistan or Iraq.
But there are people, once again, on the right who are blindly just in the America shouldn't do these things.
It feels more like people are marching behind fake narratives as opposed to actually having a nuanced argument about this.
So again, with the previous conversation that it seems like people have flipped on a dime, I see the exact same thing here.
There is a nuanced conversation about Venezuela.
The issues that took place with the regime change wars we launched by invading Iraq and Afghanistan are palpable, and we can discuss all of the problems that have emerged.
We're still dealing with Afghanistan.
The removal of the president of Venezuela is an entirely different story.
And we don't want it to become a regime change war.
I don't want boots on the ground, but there is nuance.
It's completely different.
There are people who are just tweeting things where they're like, it's one or zero.
That's it.
The United States should do nothing.
They should let Venezuela sell oil that they stole our assets to produce and give it to China.
Well, they're talking out of both sides of the mouth then because you can't, on one hand, say, we want someone to do something and then get mad when someone does something.
And we didn't start a war.
We took one guy.
We took one person.
And it was kind of badass how we did it too, wasn't it?
And you know what helps is ejecting all of the adversarial media from the Pentagon.
I mean, hello.
Like everyone was like, why did that happen?
It's like, because this would have been on the front page everywhere if that happened.
These people are sourcing stories.
Also, it's hilarious.
Seeing like Brian Krassen in there, who's like always chirping about Ukraine, it's like, dude, people with zero geopolitical consciousness are like jumping on the story.
Do you know how you defeat Russia?
You flood the market with cheap oil and you force them to bring their oil price down.
That will destroy their economy.
This is the worst thing to happen to Russia than any victory Ukraine has inflicted on them in the battlefield.
This is how you conduct the geopolitical affairs.
This is how you bend the arm of our political adversaries.
This is geopolitics 101.
And these people, their entire political dichotomy is just Trump or no Trump.
I think, based on the trends that we're seeing, the response to Trump from the right even, is that we are going back to uniparty politics.
I imagine by this time, you know, four years from now, we are going to be, it's going to be Hillary Clinton versus Mitt Romney-esque.
You're going to get 20, look, it was supposed to be Charlie Kirk and JD Vance.
That's the reporting that Kirk was going to be the VP for JD in 28.
I don't know what's going to happen in 28.
Maybe JD Vance, but the way the right's fighting, especially still lingering into a midterm year, I'm not sure that they're going to be able to muster up a coalition to win.
Sounds like 2032 is the plan to return to Hillary Clinton versus John McCain.
It just seems to me the issue is the Democrat Party, because the parties are reacting to each other.
And we were talking yesterday about Mamdani, and I was evaluating Mamdani's viability as like this truly transformational mayor in New York City, even though the transformation would be grim.
But I made the point, I was like, I think fundamentally he's going to be rage baiting the right for four years because all he's really trying to do is legitimize his ideas in the Democrat Party.
How do you do that?
Will you become the boogeyman for the right?
So that way people on the left say, wow, this Mamdani guy seems to draw the ire of Republicans more than anybody else.
And the way that people conduct politics now, because it's an outrage economy, is they just seek for how do I inflame the other side as much as possible.
It's kind of base when we do it, but you know, that something to be said about that.
So it's really tough to see a situation in which either party sort of moderates like their base actually moderates their taste.
I just don't see the appetite for that in either party.
Yeah, well, it's even, I mean, I mean, obviously there's a different story at play here, but like even Mamdani, like there's not that much America can actually do in New York City.
It's a city council-driven government.
So, what's really going to be the most consequential result of Mamdani's sort of reign, so to speak, is just like vape shop, more vape shops opening and just like the decline continuing.
Like, I don't think he's going to actually establish this Maoist state in New York.
What he's doing is actually worse.
Because it's one thing, if it's like concentrated to New York City, New York City falls apart, and everyone in this country goes, wow, we can't do that.
We can't repeat that.
What's happening is far worse.
He's going to be ineffective as mayor, and he's going to legitimize his ideas in the Democrat Party.
And now, the entire Democrat Party is going to be Mamdani-style politics.
That's far worse.
It'd be much better if it was just contained in New York City.
That would be optimal, but that's just not what's going to happen.
He's just going to continue to rage bait.
He's going to continue to say these really inflammatory things that we, as commentators, have no choice but to jump on because you've got to correct the record.
And it's just going, it's just going to legitimize his philosophy.
I mean, this is the thing about social media that causes problems.
I was talking about on the show today.
We are developing sort of this international consciousness, but it's really only occurring on the left.
And this is why Antifa is increasingly effective.
Like in Berlin, they had an attack, I believe it was like last night, our time, where they effectively took out the entire power grid in Berlin.
It was an Antifa cell.
And the issue is like you can't contain these things anymore.
Like that's not just something that happens in Germany.
That's happening globally.
That's why when we classified Antifa as an FTO, that wasn't just like a sleight of hand trick so we could go after them.
It was like, no, they genuinely are collaborating over borders.
And that's what's so terrifying.
And then this point with Memdani, it's a really good point that needs to be made.
Is we have this tendency in America to just want to go back to like the 90s.
Like we're like, oh, that's when things are perfect in the 90s or 80s.
But the thing that you have to do, if you're really trying to restore America, if you're trying to make America great again, you have to ratchet it all the way back because you can't ratchet liberalism back to an earlier stage and then just freeze it there and hope it doesn't develop into this.
Every like 10 times out of 10, it's going to result in Memdani because that's how political philosophy works.
You have to keep moving the football down the field in order if you have like a sort of vision for what you want the country to be.
And it's just going to naturally turn into this every single time.
Like you can't just freeze a political ideology in place.
It's always going to continue to develop along the way.
Well, I don't see the policies that the Democrats are pushing being popular with the older people in the United States, but I do see a lot of energy in the young people.
Well, and it's exactly as they, I mean, because they've been seeking to overhaul the demographic of the United States, and there's no question about that.
Biden was pretty open about that.
And so it's just going to get worse as the older population dies off because, again, the younger you get, the less American it gets.
Like it's more and more people who are foreign-born or that, you know, like their children are foreign-born and typically children of foreign-born politics reflect their parents.
So it's like the Democrats have set this play up.
They set this up 60 years ago, like with the Hart Seller Act.
Like this has been in development for a very long time, is to make Republicans just politically unviable as an institution.
And so that's what like, that's kind of the problem.
I don't think people realize like there was an hourglass that was turned over.
And in many ways, we kind of ran out of time already.
Trump's sort of brought denaturalization to the table.
It's like, okay, we might actually be able to undo some of this damage, but it's like, dude, this has been a masterful play by the Democrats.
They're not idiots.
Some of their actual politicians are idiots, but a lot of these guys are careful.
You know, guys, this video of Chuck Schumer, I walked out the door and he said, there he is, get him.
I'm just, I'm just, I'm so over it.
I'm just, I'm completely over it.
I don't care about any of this.
It is a bunch of fake people saying fake shit nonstop all the time.
I, you know, I've been over the holiday break.
I talked to a lot of people who have been expressing that it's just the same story every day.
Nothing's changing.
Now, don't get me wrong, Trump has done some stuff, but it feels like it's just, you know, again, with all due respect to Dan Vangino, it's disappointing.
If not Dan, then who we thought he was going to go in, and then he comes out and he's like, yeah, nothing, we can't do anything.
Nothing is here.
Like, Epstein killed himself.
So everybody's just continually disappointed.
Nothing ever happens, right?
Don't get me wrong, like a lot of happenings have happened in the past couple of months.
And over the past year, there's been a lot happening.
But in the political space, the day-to-day, it is mind-numbing to listen to the Democrats.
Yeah, I mean, to some degree, like, it's kind of a good thing if politics gets boring.
Like, C-SPAN should be boring to watch.
Like, that's historically how politics operated is for wonks.
They had like a slur.
We called them wonks because it's like, you guys are nerds.
And if things go well with the Trump administration, I mean, if this trajectory continues into a potentially advanced presidency, hopefully politics is back to just being like a snooze fest and people can go back to their lives.
I mean, that's been the big issue.
That's been the big issue.
That's been the big issue with why we're seeing so much slop in the political zeitgeist is because it's not boring.
And it's like, again, what we were talking about earlier, it's like, no, we're talking about life and death.
We're talking about the country we're going to leave to our kids, these sorts of things.
Like, we should take this a little bit more seriously.
People, but people love the sensational.
They love that.
So it's like, maybe like returning the boring.
I know it's bad for us, bad for business, but like there's something to that.
But the only thing about that, though, is it was, it's a double-edged sword, right?
And it really kind of goes to your point earlier.
It's always going to be a football kick down further and further and further.
If we go back to that, it's going to lead to what has got us in the situation that we're in in the first place.
Oh, you just vote Republican down the ticket.
You have no idea, or Democrat down the ticket.
You have no idea what's going on.
You couldn't even name your congressman or woman.
You have no idea what's happening.
And then that leads to the decades of decades of decades of decades of corruption that we're now trying to fight against.
That's what I said.
We did a very bad job as talking heads, influencers, creators, whatever you want to call us.
We did a really bad job, myself included, of the American people understanding that one election is not going to make America utopia.
It's not going to happen.
You're talking about at least 50 years of just horrible, horrific corruption all day, every day.
But with everyone being interested in what's going on and everybody getting to the bottom of what's happening, eventually you're going to get to this point where nobody can do it well enough.
And then the question goes, well, what happens then?
What happens with all of the people, all of America, or enough of them at least that are like, no one's going to do what we need to do?
Does that lead to government overthrow?
What is that?
Where does that lead?
And so the truth is, we really, what we're all debating right now and where the American people find themselves and why you feel this thing going on that you don't really know what you're feeling is we're in the middle of both of those spectrums right this second.
By the end of the century, 20% of Pennsylvania, no, by 2100, 20% of Pennsylvania will be Amish.
So, like, really?
Yeah, you're going to have this situation.
Again, Brooklyn, by like 20%.
There's like a lot of projections by 2070 at this trajectory, things could change.
Brooklyn will be as red as Alabama because the Hasidics have such a high birth rate.
So you know what?
We're going into a world where it's like a lot of people are going to self-filter out of the gene pool and these uber-religious communities are going to dominate.
Like, there's the timeline that we're entering makes Fukuyamala look like the biggest idiot on planet Earth because it's like there's so many moving parts now.
No disrespect to Fuyama.
Well, there's so many moving parts now that it's like, you have to start considering these really sensational things because they're real.
If you go back to like, and it's caused by the economic collapse, which shocked a lot of people, they began asking why it was they couldn't afford to live anymore.
Millennials started asking why they couldn't afford to live, have families, buy houses.
Gen Z is in a similar spot.
But I think Gen Z is very nihilistic.
So whereas millennials became activists, Gen Z is like, y'all are stupid.
Who cares?
And they're largely just like detaching.
And man, you look at the current trends among Gen Z and what people are starting to focus on, sports betting.
I think Gen Z is basically just like, we literally don't care anymore.
So, you know, my point is, like, I remember when I first started making content during Occupy Wall Street, there was this bubbling up of politics in the mainstream.
People were interested in it.
But I remember when I was younger, nobody cared.
Sure, there was protests and stuff, but this was not the popular thing that everyone was focused on.
I think we're probably in the back end of this political swing.
And I'm wondering if the next few years politics becomes esoteric, just I don't know, droll garbage that most people don't care about, and political channels become substantially smaller with less money.
I think with the George Floyd riots, a lot of us expected, man, people are going to lose their minds.
And like you said, some of these Gen Z they're split between extremists and nihilists.
But I think for a lot of people, they're going to be like, yeah, I don't care.
If you grew up at a time where you saw all of these crises and all these political conflicts and Trump and impeachment and Brisma and all these things, and then nothing happened, and you've got these Gen Z people saying nothing ever happens, why are they going to turn the TV on and pay attention?
Why are they going to turn on a podcast and pay attention?
I mean, it's cash too, but Dan's leaving now and they're making fun of him.
I think the reality is you can't stop the machine.
I said this of Obama.
I said this of every president.
I've been saying it for decades.
You get elected.
You say, when I get in office, I'm going to do this thing.
You get in, and then you can't for a million and one reasons.
And it's not always that there's an evil deep state cabal that's like, we'll kill you if you do.
It's like you get in office and you say, okay, guys, I want to deal with this border crisis.
And they go, well, here's the thing.
If we don't have the illegal immigrants, look at all these areas of the country where population decline is setting in and we don't have low-skilled labor to replace the young people who are aging out.
That's the Democrat worldview.
Trump, the reason they hate him is because he goes, huh, I don't care.
Shut the border down.
And they're like, but don't you understand you're knocking pegs out from the machine?
He's like, I don't care.
We can't keep doing the same thing.
And that's why people liked what Trump was doing.
But basically what I'm saying as it pertains to Dan Bongino, my assumption would be he goes in and says, I want to do something here.
You know what I genuinely think happened?
The reason the Epstein list doesn't come out is because Saudis are on it.
And Trump said, guys, don't screw up the petrodollar negotiations.
And so you're told, and again, it's hypothetical, I don't know for sure, but Dan Bongino, a guy like him, he gets in and he goes, we got to put this list out.
And they go, see these three guys on the list?
If they get arrested, we're going to lose an oil contract.
We're going to lose an oil pipeline.
And we're going to see a 17% collapse of the U.S. stock market because this person holds X amount of equities with BlackRock and this.
And then it's like crap.
And so, for a lot of people, they've said to us, I don't care what the ramifications are.
I don't care if this economy tanks because of it.
I don't care if it starts a war.
Do it.
And I'm not saying that's wrong.
I get it.
Don't protect these people and let them get away with it.
But what happens when Donald Trump personally says to you, I will not be the president that watches the union collapse.
Please don't do this.
Again, not saying this is actually what happened, but I'm saying it's a hypothetical of how the machine works.
What do you do when you say to everybody, I'm going to expose the Epstein list?
You get in, and then the president, who you know and trust, says, Here's what will happen if you do.
And then he hands you the button and says, You're allowed to press it if you want.
Just know, here's all the collateral damage the U.S. will face because of it.
Do you press the button?
I know a lot of people would say yes.
A lot of people would say no.
I'm not saying what you should or shouldn't do.
I'm pointing out these are the scenarios faced by people who try and get into politics.
The world is not so simple and cut and dry.
No, it is not so easy to just say, we shouldn't.
Like people think that the Venezuela move against Maduro was an easy yes or no.
No, it wasn't.
I say I'm lukewarm on it.
It's not the same thing as Iraq and Afghanistan.
That was a debacle for sure.
Mistakes were made, horrible mistakes.
But the people were just like, the U.S. should never, for any reason, intervene in either country.
There's a lot of questions in morality like if you had a document that would expose a billionaire for being a pedophile.
And then as you're like, I'm going to publish this, a man slides a picture of your daughter through a sniper, through a scope, saying the moment you press this button, she dies.
Well, and then the other, like outside of hypotheticals, the other realities of the American people is I've said this on my show all the time.
We've talked about states that are lost causes.
We've talked about triaging, you know, getting out of certain states and going fortifying actual states that are winnable and then we never have to worry about things again.
And people will tell me, well, Graham, I can't just move.
Like it's not that simple, but you want to publish a list that hypothetically could collapse the entire American system, a government, economic system, and things like that.
Like, I know there are some people who stand true.
And if you're out there, you know who you are.
But let's be real.
If the release of the Epstein documents, and I'm not saying this is absolute, because I know the responsibility is going to be like, but it's not true to me.
No, I'm saying hypothetically, if the release of the Epstein documents did implicate enough prominent people from foreign governments to corporations that the U.S. economy would destabilize, knocking us down 80%, would you release the documents?
I guarantee you most people are going to be like, of course I would.
Because I hear it all the time from people that they would rather, like we've had these conversations on the show before, and like we did polls where people are like, I'll put it like this.
You can expose all of the Epstein pedophiles.
Easily done.
Let's take it to the extreme end.
You have the file in your hands.
You can choose to, you know, a digital file.
You can press go and the internet, everyone will have it.
The point is, if it was something as simple as Trump says our economy is going to take a 20% hit, people will die, then Dan Bongino is going to be like, I can't do anything about it.
Is he going to be the guy who pulls a trigger and goes on to history as the one who caused, you know, deaths because he was like these people?
And I'm sure what happens behind the scenes is someone like Trump says, do you really want to see the U.S. economy collapse for these 15 assholes?
And people are going to be like, no.
So who's really going to press that button?
The truth is, all these people screaming, they would, I doubt they would.
Well, that and the very people who want you to release that information or press that button will then turn on you and probably kill you because you destroy their entire lives in the process.
I think the chat right now is actually hilarious in that it's divided between people who say they would actually kill their daughters to publish the Epstein list and others saying it's disgusting you would consider killing your daughter to publish the Epstein list.
Like, I know it's an extreme end, but this is the reality of politics is that it's not yes, no.
It's not zero sum.
It's not, I can just do it and there's no ramifications.
The idea that Trump got into office and then decided to become evil is laughable.
Trump is Trump.
The idea that Dan Bongino dedicated his life to calling out all this evil, walked through a door and instantly just was transformed to a Sith lord.
It's just not correct.
Something is going on we don't understand and it's a rock and a hard place.
Everybody who lives on the outside, one of the challenges in being in politics and being in culture is like this kind of space is that most people who watch are not involved.
I'm not saying everybody, those who are, you know who you are and you're going through the fight.
But a lot of people just passively watch and they don't have to actually be the one who pulls the trigger.
The lines that, or the, the rant that Jack Nicholson did in A Few Good Men was actually true.
Yeah.
Even though he was the bad guy and whatnot, like it's actually true that like, you know, brave men or, you know, brave men stand ready to do violent, visit violence on bad people so you can sleep soundly in your bed.
So we feel the effect of one person dying more than a thousand people dying because we cannot wrap our heads around a thousand people just dying at the same time or a million people dying at the same time, right?
So we're very passionate about when we see like that one person, they're suffering, right?
So we see the girl who was murdered on the bus by a black guy.
I mean, that broke news ever.
We see Daniel Penny.
It's very easy to see it one time.
That stuff happens all the time, thousands of times a day.
And around the world, I mean, it happens millions of times a day.
And then, you know, like Bangladesh, like a thousand die in a mudslide, and you're like, oh, well, that's why we care about Epstein so much more than, you know, the other child trafficking that's happening all over the world that we're obviously complicit into at some level.
I think the reality of politics, geopolitics, the world and everything is that when it comes down to it, 99% of people would never sacrifice their friends, their families, and their security for the collective.
The reason why it works on the left is they don't have friends, family, or kids.
And the right does.
And that's why the right usually gets beaten down.
Because when it comes down to it, it's very easy for a crackpot leftist to shoot at your studio and threaten the life of your family and then put us in a position where we're like, we don't want to bring risk to our family.
But these leftists don't have families themselves.
So they don't face the same risk.
And then we're between the rock and the hard place of do we continually expose ourselves to a degenerate faction of evil scumbags who don't face the same remote, like the same fears, the same threats.
Most people in politics, like you, you look at some of the things that are happening around the world and you ask yourself why it is that Congress is a bunch of corrupt scumbags who are doing insider trading.
It's because nobody wants to risk their families to stop someone else.
To put it simply, Nancy Pelosi should be in prison for insider trading, but she's got the power to subpoena you and put you in prison, like the Jason's committee did to Bannon and Peter Navarro and that.
And so you're sitting there, depending on your age, especially, with your young kids and your wife, and you're like, if I try to fight this evil person, she will cause harm, not just me, but my family.
And the thing that we've brought up is that the founding fathers made that choice.
They sacrificed blood, treasure, and family.
Some of their, one guy's wife was kidnapped.
One guy has kid kid.
One guy's kid betrayed him.
And there are real questions about when people are willing to make those choices.
For the most part, right now, in this country, nobody wants to go head to head against these corrupt forces in government because these corrupt forces in government will arrest you and your lawyers.
They will make up fake crimes about you.
They will go on TV and accuse you of working for Russia or some other psychotic nonsense.
They will lie and claim that you've abused women or that you stole a lectern you didn't steal.
And I would be remiss if I didn't mention that January 6th, there were about 1,600 people that were willing to risk their freedom to speak up and say our country is being stolen from us.
So I do think those people do exist.
I think the entire reason they're still doing this is to remind you, we will come after you if you ever do this again.
Why are Democrats having a candlelight vigil to say to anybody who would make the choice to risk everything, their family, blood, treasure, or otherwise, they are going to destroy you and everyone around you?
It is the kill you and three generations of your family threat.
You walked into a room, threw the velvet ropes, and everybody was seemingly on a tour with cops taking selfies with people, and you picked up a lectern and waved and put it down.
It's funny because, you know, I was talking to this liberal guy who's always arguing with me.
And I said, you know, we're not going to be at the studio anymore because of the shooting.
And I said, look how easy it is.
All liberals have to do is murder a few conservatives, then take some shots at me, and they can shut us up, right?
And this part of what I'm sick of with these, with the left.
You know, the Millennial Woes tweet that basically exemplifies the culture war.
Leftists pretending like they don't understand things to make discourse impossible.
There is no reality where these progressive personalities are unaware that it's conservatives and moderate right-leaning individuals that are facing the real threat of death.
Someone just tried breaking into JD Vance's home with a hammer smashing out his windows.
The lie and pretend it is the way that they treat themselves as victims, the way that they pad the numbers whenever it comes to how many politically motivated attacks are performed by the left versus the right.
They've been basically controlling the narrative for so long that your average person believes them.
And the more we try to get the word out, the more pushback you get.
There's a comment here that I think makes a good example of the destabilization we're facing.
And it's small rabbit monkey says, I mean, you are a bit of a coward, Tim.
That I think that comment really does exemplify why we lose in the long run and why we've, you know, we've had tremendous victories.
I do think there's some optimism to look forward to right now.
It's tough.
It's tough not to be black pilled.
But imagine, and again, I will stress too, like this could be a bot.
It could be a liberal masquerading as someone on the right, trying to destabilize things.
I'll give you an example of why I'm singling this one out.
We had Father Ripperger on the culture war, and I talked about, I asked him, he's talking about demonic possession, demonic obsession, which is where the demons influencing you as opposed to being within you.
And he said, when people are effectively advocating for things that are wrong or bad, they're being influenced.
I had Seamus Coglin on, and Seamus brings this up as well as G Prime 85.
I recommend you guys follow G Prime.
He's an amazing artist.
And conservatives insult artists, comedians, gamers.
They insult me for skateboarding.
And I asked the father if that was demonic.
And he said, yes.
The reason why is regular people live in these spaces and you have to fish where the fish are.
If there are people attacking you to try and get you to stop doing good work, it's demonic.
If you are an artist like Seamus Coughlin or G Prime and you're trying to bring comedy to Americans that expresses and explains a conservative worldview in a funny way that makes them come into the house, if people then try to stop that work from happening, it's demonic.
That's what he was saying, that someone like Seamus, who's a devout Catholic, who makes funny videos, this is entertaining to regular people and it will open the door for them to come into his worldview, deeply religious, devout.
And then he's surrounded by conservatives screaming at him to stop because he's childish and it's for babies and he's wasting his time and wasting his life.
That's demonic.
So for these people, I would say two things.
One, this could just be a liberal trying to antagonize me.
It's troll.
It's fake.
But there are many conservatives who do this, sit in their houses, don't engage in the culture war, aren't getting shot at, and then smugly sit there and insult you for doing it, seemingly only to try and get you to stop.
Because, again, the reason why I say it could be a liberal, because now I'm faced with two distinct scenarios from both sides.
Death threats and getting shot at, which is a risk to me and my family that I don't want to deal with.
And conservatives insulting me over it.
Why would I fight for you?
Why would I risk getting shot at for you sitting at home doing nothing, insulting me?
Again, I stress probably a liberal and I largely ignore these things.
But when you're looking at prominent conservative personalities that have been on this show that are stabbing me in the back, lying about me because they're more concerned with Zijus than having real conversations, my question is, why would I risk getting shot for you?
You know, the fault here comes to a nation-scale thing where you're fighting for people you don't know who hate you, right?
Not everybody, but many people.
I'd argue, I have sometimes more fans than haters, that people who hate me don't even know who I am, they don't follow the show.
So like when we go out and we go places, we never run into anybody who's actually like, I hate you, because they don't know, the people who don't like me don't even know what I look like.
But there is a challenge, again, to go back to like the Dan Bongino conversation of here's a guy who literally sacrificed everything to try and do it.
And when he couldn't do it, they insult him and they're trying to burn him to the ground.
And I'm just like, you can be disappointed in the guy and you can say, you failed.
That's fine.
But it's weird to me that they're acting like Dan's evil.
Well, and it's from the same people that look what Dan had to give up to go.
I know what I had to give up to go to the Pentagon.
You're not allowed to make any money outside of what you're getting paid from the federal government, which is not a lot.
It's expensive in D.C.
They don't pay you a lot.
You get max taxes pulled out across the board.
These same people that are mad at Dan Bongino or me or whoever it is, again, they're the same people.
Look what Dan gave up, millions and millions of dollars to come out and be ridiculed by people, back to my earlier comment, that won't even move out of horrific cities where their families are not safe because they're worried about their paycheck of two grand every paycheck or something like that.
You're the same people that are, you would not do what Dan Bongino did.
And so are you really mad at Dan Bongino or are you mad because now you see that it's worse than you thought it was?
And I'll stress this too, because I would say ignore the direct comments on Dan Bongino, you, the threats against yourself, me, but look at the movement on the right right now and what the right is doing.
And the question I have is, is the right something worth fighting for?
And if there is a large faction of prominent individuals who are either degenerate evil scum or cowardly backing degenerate evil scum, I have to ask, it's not about one person insulting me.
It's a question of what the movement is and what it would do should it succeed.
Now, I know you made the point you have convictions and you're fighting those who want a better future for your kids.
Completely agree.
The question then is, is the time and energy I'm spending doing this and the risks accrued actually going to be a net benefit for my kids?
I don't believe that if the right moves in the direction of Candace Owens, it will be something worth preserving or making happen in the future.
And thus I would oppose it and fight against it, which is why I've criticized her.
And again, it's not about her.
It's about what she represents.
And it's about people like Megan Kelly who are continually backing her and lining up in her space.
It's about people like Matt Strickland who put a knife in my back because he wants to cozy up to her.
It's about the people that know she's lying but don't actually care about what the future is.
So when I see these trends and these movements among these individuals that, again, Candace literally used the same security as Charlie Kirk.
It's an easily provable fact.
It's so patently obvious she worked for Turning Point.
You don't even need to say anything beyond that.
And she's lying about it, but people don't care because she has views and they're going to follow that.
Is that group of people something we want to help?
If the right wins, is she and the people around her going to benefit from it?
We don't want that.
Well, then the question is, what is the right actually fighting for?
Because if prominent individuals like, you know, Megan Kelly is a great example.
She's repeatedly just been demure to Candace and like refused to just say like literally Candace is making shit up and lying.
Many people have come out and called her out on it.
But again, there's a few other people that I'm not going to name because we have no public beef, but people have been in the show who have lost their fucking minds and are no longer talking about populist issues or foreign wars.
They're screaming about Israel 24-7.
I'm not here to fight for those people.
So if I'm getting shot at and I've got psychotic, you know, retards like, you know, in Candace's sphere, and then you've got cowards unwilling to stand up to her, do I really want to risk things for that future?
No, then what do you do?
Well, we got to figure out what we are fighting for and who we are fighting for.
And the challenge I see now is the right is fracturing and the left is fractured.
Not a single Democrat that might correctly call out something Trump has done or these crackpot conservatives is worth defending because they defend child sex changes all the same.
But I'm not going to defend the Zejus people who live in a retard world either.
So then who is our community and what is the future going to look like?
Honestly, I have no idea.
In the meantime, do I want to get shot at not knowing what I'm fighting for?
I mean, that was the problem with the Republican Party for, again, 60, 70 years, is they're just primarily the opposition party.
They were just slow down what the Democrats were trying to do and manage the decline.
And like, if you're in politics, your entire job, whether you're in media or like, you know, actually in elected office, your entire job is you have a set of ideas or a set of, you know, a vision for how you want America to be.
And then you have to identify the political vehicles that are viable to bring forth this vision.
And yeah, like Tim's saying, we're kind of entering this period where engines or vehicles that are not viable are now starting to lead the packet.
And in some regards, and it's just you sit back and you go, okay, this is a little frustrating.
I understand that there are people that are like, well, you know, principle matters, et cetera, et cetera.
We live in the real world.
Principle does not actually provide you with victory.
Principle is a way to say, well, you know, we lost and it's an excuse for losing.
We live in the real politic world.
So like the important thing is victories.
So it doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter that you don't like to work with this person or that you feel kind of squishy about something.
Victory, winning, having, you know, running the scoreboard up on your side is the only thing that matters.
And the situation that we're in today, where people on the right are getting killed, people on the right are being put in jail for BS, BS charges, like that will only get worse.
Yeah, principle only matters if your opposition also has principles and then you have competing principles.
But we're in a situation where one side has principles.
This is the entire, like, this is what the back to the Venezuela thing.
This is why it's driving so many of these people that are sort of adherent to the old system crazy because it's like Trump accurately views other countries as self-interested.
We have felt that because we've had big tech go after us.
You've been put in prison.
You've had people shoot at you in your house.
I get 100 death threats a day.
We call it a Tuesday at the office.
Like we deal with actual targeting against us for our views and what we think and what we feel.
The average American has not had to deal with that.
That is just the truth.
And a lot of people see us right now, Tim.
I know they see it in your face because I see it in your face too.
They see it in mine in the show.
We know more than we did 10, 12 years ago when we first started doing this.
We have seen more.
And we are in real time watching what's going on.
And we're also trying to discern and figure out which way is this thing turning?
Who's real?
Who's not?
Who's actually on the team?
Who's just in it to get their bag, as you said, Tim?
Who can we actually trust?
I'm being generous when I think, when I say, I think you can automatically say 50% of the people that you listen to and that you watch are not in it to help you.
They do not give a crap about this country.
They do not care if it burns to the ground.
They just want their money and or they want the power of being famous.
And that's generous, 50%.
I think it's more 87, 90% personally.
But that is where we really are.
And people don't want to hear it, but that is the truth.
It's one of those things that's like, it was after the Charlie Kirk assassination.
I think people realize this is like when the left says things, you actually should believe them when they say these things because they actually intend on doing it.
Like I get tweets every day.
If you have expressed any support for the mass deportations with ICE's operations, you're on a list.
Like people don't realize this.
Even if you're like have a small Twitter account, if it's your name on there and you've tweeted like these things, I promise you, go to archive.org.
Someone has logged your account.
They've documented it.
It's on internet archive.
So the commentariat, but even like patriots that are supporting the commentariat are cooked if the Democrats get back in because when they tweet, they tweet at me all the time.
They're like, Nuremberg trials for conservatives.
It's coming.
You're in trouble.
I actually believe them.
I'm like, yeah, if they ever get back in power, they do intend on doing that.
Well, people get mad at people like Tim, all of us, because we get behind the mic and they can see we are frustrated, right?
But these are the same people that Dan Bongino, when he was deputy director, in his office, looks me in the eye and go, yeah, you're on all kinds of lists in here.
Like, you know what I mean?
Like, like, we know.
We know that we know that we know.
And they're going to go after us first because we're the dissenting voices.
We are the ones.
They're going to go after us to make examples out of us for all of the other people that watch us.
And then when we're not there anymore, they're going to go after everybody else.
So it's frustration.
Tim, to your point, we're trying to work it out in our heads at the same time.
We're fighting for this country, but this country is now turning against us because we're not bobbing and weaving with every freaking thing because they're not the trending thing going on.
They're an extra-national force that wants to create global economic blocks.
The liberal economic order may have started with the United States, but it's effectively an extra governmental entity that just puppet strings the United States.
And the problem is, how do you stop someone who's figured it out?
And any conspiracy, right?
Someone goes, I'm on to something.
I think I have evidence that you're doing a thing.
You want them to go in the wrong direction.
So I mentioned this with Pizzagate.
People started to say, hey, these emails from the Democrats are really weird.
What's this talking about?
A handkerchief with a map on it.
What could that mean?
What do they mean when they said, is it more fun to do play dominoes on pizza or on pasta?
Okay, well, if I was working in government and I was concerned that people figured out Democrats were having drunken drug field orgies, how do you break that chain?
They inserted fake stuff about ping pong and pizza restaurants.
A guy went and shot the ground looking for a basement that didn't exist.
Everyone then is told, see, it's not real, you're crazy, and it dissipates.
So when you begin talking about the liberal economic order formed after World War II to create economic blocks, their view was the World Bank switch payment system.
We will prevent World War III by making everybody trade with each other.
That's why Canada, with no bauxite mines, refines aluminum for the United States.
I mean, we have bauxite mines in Louisiana.
Why are we importing aluminum from Canada?
Canada imports their raw minerals from China and like New Guinea and Brazil.
It's because the goal is war stops if you're dependent upon each other.
That's the liberal economic order plan.
When people start pointing this out, what do you do?
Tell them it's the Jews.
Then they sound like they're retarded and won't actually be able to pinpoint who's doing what.
Because remember for a long time, what were we all talking about?
The World Economic Forum, the Davos group?
These same people are now tweeting the Jews all day.
I assure you, random regular Jews have nothing to do with what the World Economic Forum is doing.
There may be some people who are Jewish, but if you go to someone and say, there is a group, the Davos group, there is Soros, there is the World Economic Forum, there is the Council on Foreign Relations.
These things exist.
You can read their websites.
Here's what they're doing.
I think it's a bad thing.
Enough people start calling out, you will own nothing and you will be happy.
You will eat the bugs.
And they go, crap.
How do we get them off this?
Put Cannes on the front page.
He never screams the Jews.
Now the people that were once talking about the Davos group are talking about the Jews, and they sound like they're retarded.
That's how you break it apart.
So, to the point, what is happening with this country when you say they're going to put us on lists and they're going to do these things to us?
It's not America that's doing it.
Trump is America.
We're America.
It's the forces outside of America that want to create an international order since World War II that are looking at us like basically chickens in a chicken coop that are ruffling feathers.
And you know what you do with chickens that are causing fights?
At this time, I have all of these global elites and politicians and family of royalty in and around Davos.
And they're saying our intention, they didn't say like, we are going to conquer the world and make everyone use crypto.
They were saying our company, our family, our politicians, our government, we want crypto to be the thing.
Look where crypto is now.
It's expanding.
It's growing.
I think it's very clear that international elites of varying political factions, their intention is to make crypto the currency of the, it exists for a reason.
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Alleged criminals and other Democrat Funded leeches have drained billions of our taxes that could help people like myself.
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Um uh, Callum's pretty banged up but he was discharged.
Uh Mark, staying overnight hopefully.
Uh, everything's good.
But I don't want to say uh, I don't know if serious is the right to describe it, but I think serious were the injuries, like um, Mark's mark's pretty bad, you know, but we think he's gonna be okay.
So you know, hoping for the best.
Pinot says for the record, not one damn corrupt federal agent was fired.
Well, also, even if, even if, which is not true, but hypothetically, even if Dan accomplished nothing and he was this terrible deputy director, which he was not, even if, okay, the guy tried.
Didn't Tim have a meeting with Netanyahu, and he's the one that keeps saying the Jews trying to discredit a legitimate complaint about foreign influence on our government.
Why are the people that make the most money doing what we do?
Are they allowed to talk about Israel and talk bad about Israel?
By the very premise, if Israel controls everything, then why do those of us that make the most money, Tucker Carlson, Megan Kelly, Candace Owens, all these people, they make the most money out of all of us that do this?
There's an idea I've heard that if you want to make people believe anti-Semitism is real, then you have to promote it.
Right.
And so maybe the large amount of things we're hearing online for people being propped up is them saying, see, anti-Semitism is real and it's everywhere.
I mean, that would mean that in the next few years, they will be censored and shut down.
And perhaps it's a false flag, maybe, that you get this, you know, Candace, massive show, Ian Carroll, all of these Zeju people, and on the left and the right, a year or two later, the government comes out and says, see, look at this problem.
I mean, I still think that his constantly fighting with Trump, I think, is pointless.
I mean, I know there are things that Trump does that he doesn't like, but I feel like he's just kind of counter signaling like Tate says, you know, he doesn't need to be so.
I definitely think that Candace is at minimum controlled opposition.
I have a running theory that she probably still works for Daily Wire in some capacity because they all have the same kind of mission where we can't get JD Vance elected.
The populist movement needs to end.
And I mean, I'm going to be happy to vote for JD and I think it's going to be Rubio in 28.
And I don't know.
I think we need to, what is it?
The movement now is Starve the Grift, right?
That seems to be the thing we're all talking about online.
And for the longest time, I said we need generals on the field because we haven't recaptured any territory.
But we are in a place now where we can start saying, okay, demoted.
We're going to lower that voice a little bit because that's not what the main populist, main MAGA movement is about.
And then there's greater continents outside of it.
But it's not flat.
There are some people that talk about a flat Earth where there's an inner ice wall, but that's stupid.
Greater Earth Theory is there's a spherical Earth and there's one small portion of the planet that is surrounded by an ice wall.
We are slaves.
And the theory is that Atlantis and Tartaria are beyond the ice wall.
That's why you're not allowed to fly south of Antarctica because you'd go over the ice wall and then you'd make it to, what was it, Admiral Bird or whatever?
So there's like great lands beyond Antarctica or something.
So you can actually do the experiments and see the Earth is curved.
You can do the camera thing with the lights.
Oh, yeah, great distance because it's not flat.
And flat Earth is intended to trick people into ignoring greater earth theory.
To be honest, like it would be a really cool video game if it was you play as Alex Stein and you get a single engine Cessna and you fly over the ice wall with like anti-aircraft gunfire.
And you're like the opening scene of the game is your Alex Stein flying this.
Have you guys seen the real life Pokemon videos that they've been making?
Yes.
It's crazy what they're making.
Someone made a Legend of Zelda trailer and it was close.
What was really crazy is that the doomsday X-Men Doomsday trailer came out, but it was only in theaters.
And so I don't know if you guys have seen it, but some screenshots got leaked and it's like Cyclops going, ah, that's like fucking mess.
Somebody took those screenshots, loaded them into, I don't know, GPT or something, and made a trailer based on the description and the screenshots.
So I went on YouTube before the trailer was officially released and I saw this video and I watched it and it was weird because it was clearly AI, but it did match up.
And I'm like, this doesn't make sense.
And then I realized what someone did.
With the limited information, they used AI to make what was basically the trailer.
We are going, like in a couple of years, man, it's going to be nuts.
You're going to be like, make me a video game where I steal lecterns from the Capitol.
The problem we have as a country is that gambling has a definition that's not being enforced unilaterally.
Gambling is when you back off and there's chance.
So you go to a casino, you go to a craps table, you say, I'm going to put $25 on the pass line.
Someone else rolls the dice.
And if it comes up 7 or 11, you win.
2, 3, 12, you lose.
And the rest of the numbers are the point.
That's just random chance.
That's gambling.
Blackjack is gambling.
The stock market is not gambling.
The problem is, what's happened is because of people's perception based on movies and just, it's a cultural thing.
They think anytime something can change out of your control, you're gambling.
That's not correct.
If I buy Bitcoin and the price drops, was I gambling?
No, because I can wait and the price will go back up.
That's not gambling.
You're investing in something for some reason, whether it's a commodity or a company.
You have reason to believe the company will be valuable.
When you invest in that stock, typically when you have like an IPO, you're buying the stocks that the money can be used by the company to invest and grow the company.
You are now a part owner of that company.
That's not gambling.
That's you saying, hey, buddy, like if I went, Adam, I'm going to give you $100 because I'm pretty sure your book's going to sell.
I'm just talking statistical odds of like, if I put it in the stock market, the stock market has a less likely chance to fail consistently over time as opposed to a deck of cards.
And now your entry fee can only be written off at 90% and your winnings are at 100%.
People think W2G means a hand of blackjack.
The IRS has argued that some tournaments, if the prize is a pooled prize, meaning you're going to win based on, if there's 10 people, each at $100, you win $1,000.
Now you're gambling.
Can you control where the fish will be?
Can you control where on the lake you're going to be?
No, you're gambling.
Tennis, not gambling.
Why?
Static, indoor tennis court, same for everybody all the time, no wind, and it's your skill.
Guys, keep giving this comment likes because I don't understand why for the fucking life of me, people don't listen.
There are not 1,000 people in the country writing off gambling losses.
There are 10 plus million people using FanDuel and FanDuel will auto-report your wagers.
Sports betting is exploding, and there are people in golf tournaments, in fishing tournaments, and this is called W2G tax forms.
You are not going to your lawyer and saying, I gambled on a golf tournament.
I'm sorry, your accountant, but your accountant is going, this is a wager.
You can't write it off anymore.
But no matter how many times I say it, people go, who's even writing off gambling anyway?
No one cares.
In 2027, a shitload of people are going to get surprise tax bills on income they don't have because they either sports bet, which fine, fair point is gambling, but you're going to go, but they're not even writing that off.
No, but FanDuel DraftKings, they're going to submit because they're legally required to the tax form on your behalf.
Then the IRS is going to say, you failed to file this tax form.
Then there's going to be people who every fucking day enter a dog running contest or a fucking dressage tournament.
And they're going to say, contests are always W2G gambling.
And you failed to properly account.
The IRS, you're going to get a tax bill.
You're going to be like, I go on a fishing contest tournament.
This came up because specifically there was a golf and a fishing tournament that were, that the IRS argued were gambling because it was a prize pool and the golfers couldn't control the wind.
So their skill couldn't account for, they made this argument.
I think they lost.
The fishing thing, though, was they said, you don't know where the fish will be, and no amount of skill will make it so that you can catch the fish.
If someone is put in an area where there's lots of fish and you're putting an area where there's not, it was chance and you couldn't control it.
And so therefore you gambled.
And that meant some random dude who didn't think he was gambling got a surprise tax bill from the IRS for failing to file his tax form because I run a business and we want to hire somebody and they have to give us tax forms.
And we always tell these skaters, like when we do the skate night events, we're like, you need to file your taxes because we are.
When you skate in our contest and you win your prize, be it 1,000, 100, 300, 3,000, whatever it might be, we tell the IRS, we gave this person W2G income.
Actually, for us, because it's a skate event, it is all skill.
It's not W2G.
It's straight up 1099.
If they don't file this, the IRS is going to come and send them a bill later on.
For people who are now encountering this W2G law that was put in Trump's Big Beautiful Bill, who aren't gambling, but they don't realize what they're doing is going to fall under our W2G form because the tournament says, I don't give a fuck who you are.
We are filing the way our accountants told us we have to file because I'm not paying the flag for it.
You will get surprise tax bills and we are going to see millions of people hit with them.
Not a thousand people.
Anyway, I digress.
I love the, I love the reason I talk about it so much is because seemingly, no matter how many times I try to explain it, people go, but I don't gamble.
You might not, but W2G does not mean casino losses.
But the issue is if they come at you for 50 bucks, you're not going to call a company to fight the $50.
You're going to go, whatever.
I guess I'll fucking pay it.
Surprise tax bills.
A lot of people are going to ignore them because they don't know what it is.
And they're going to be like, what is this?
I don't want anybody money.
They're not, and it's, it's, it's coming.
Now, don't get me wrong.
There is big scale thing like bigger higher profile events that are going to happen here with the expansion of casinos all over the country.
It's going to, it's going to have an impact.
But anyway, let's grab the next caller.
We've got Asirdar.
Is that how you say it?
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Aseardar.
Azardar.
Azardar.
What up?
Hey, hey, happy new year.
So let me just get right into this.
This is a question from yesterday, actually.
So not terribly relevant to today, but you know, whatever they accept me anyway.
But it's talked about Maduro's seizure of Venezuela.
Do you think this could be part of like a greater plan to consolidate and unify kind of the entirety of the Western hemisphere under American hegemony?