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Jan. 6, 2026 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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ian crossland
15:07
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phil labonte
09:58
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17:23
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tim pool
01:18:20
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david letterman
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michael richards
01:51
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tim pool
It has been an absolutely crazy past couple of weeks while we've been away.
The United States has effectively taken over Venezuela, but the big news now is that gunfire is being reported, reports of explosions, and there is deep concern that the U.S. intervention removing Maduro will destabilize the country.
There's a lot of fake videos circulating claiming Venezuelans are celebrating.
I do think personally Venezuela is better off without their tinpot communist dictator as he's being referred to, but there's a bigger conversation about what this means for America, and there's a lot of pros, there's a lot of cons.
We're going to talk about that, but we are choosing to lead tonight with the attack on JD Vance's home because this is not an accident.
This was a targeted attack on the home of the vice president, a man who is transgender, who's the child of big Democrat donors, or of Democrat donors.
Let's try and lighten the language, took a hammer and started smashing up the front of his house.
They think it was a break-in.
Initial reports were of shots fired, but that could have just been that people heard the glass break.
So it's still absolutely crazy the VP was targeted in this way.
And considering what we experienced in the past month, you'll also notice we're in a totally different building right now, different studio.
There is very serious, very serious concerns about the escalation of violence.
So along with that being a massive story, again, I think the biggest story in the world right now is Venezuela, potential destabilization, what this means.
Maduro has pleaded not guilty, and the stock market in Venezuela is skyrocketing with news that the socialist has been removed.
So we're going to talk about that and a whole lot more, my friends.
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We've got Lance Videos.
Hey, so basically, I do the Fearless Tour with Cam Higbee.
unidentified
You guys might have heard of him.
His videos have been on the show before.
I go to riots, I cover riots.
We do the debate tours.
That's just all around the United States.
ian crossland
Get up on the mic.
unidentified
Oh, get up on the mic.
ian crossland
My bad.
unidentified
Get out.
All right.
Yeah.
We do a lot of fun stuff.
A lot of violence has happened to us in the past couple months.
Yeah, it's not fun, of course.
It's a bunch of leftist violence.
And it's been a great time.
So you can check us out on the Fearless Debates tour on Instagram and me and Lance videos on all platforms.
tim pool
Right on, Ian's here.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Hey, everyone.
Welcome back from the holiday, man.
What a couple of weeks this has been.
I'm happy to be here.
I got a lot of sun today.
Some wild, excellent stretches last night before bed, about 20 minutes of deep stretching, breathe through the pain, Tate.
Breathe through the pain.
tim pool
Okay.
ian crossland
Tate Brown.
tate brown
Hello, guys.
Tate Brown.
You're holding it down.
I am breathing through the pain as well.
Yeah, I'm loving Florida.
I get down at this.
I was at the beach like all afternoon.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
Oh, yeah.
I saw in the mirror before I still have sand on the hat.
So it's kind of adding to the aesthetic.
I really want to build the ambiance, the immersion with the audience, but happy to be here.
phil labonte
Hello, everybody.
My name is Philavante.
I'm the lead singer of the Heavy Metal Band All That Remains.
I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary.
Let's get into it.
tim pool
And there's a big, beautiful lit up.
phil labonte
Yeah.
ian crossland
I want the wide shot.
Do we have a wide shot?
tim pool
No.
phil labonte
Oh, it looks nice.
tim pool
It says Rumble on it.
unidentified
It does.
tim pool
We are in this very beautiful studio, and the cameras and lighting is absolutely fantastic.
And we have monitors.
How cool is that?
Very professional.
Let's talk about news, though, my friends.
This is a crazy story.
We've got some post-millennial.
Man arrested for attempted break-in of JD Vance's Ohio home identifies as trans.
Father is a Democrat donor.
Facebook profile shows a picture of DeFour, but with the name Julia and the pronouns she, her.
So for those that didn't see the story, we got breaking news early in the morning that there were shots fired at the home of Vice President JD Vance, which were later clarified to be an attempted break-in.
This individual, apparently, according to the story, took a hammer and was smashing up the windows.
Now, here's the thing: this road has been closed.
This is the VP's house, right?
I remember back in Chicago when Obama lived in Hyde Park, everybody knew where Obama lived, and the cops were always out there because crazy people will do crazy things.
So now, you know, we had a discussion before the show, we always do on what's the more pressing story, what needs to be talked about.
Venezuela's foreign policy stuff, and it's a massive story, but it's very esoteric.
My view is kind of like we're experiencing both from a personal and professional and cultural perspective, an increase in escalation of violence threatening the structures of this country.
That I think if you go to a regular person, actually, you know what?
I'm going to put it like this.
I was at the poker tables the other day.
Check it out.
This great poker room called One-Eyed Jack's Poker Room in Sarasota.
Shout out.
And really fun.
And a couple of the guys that were playing there were just like, what's Venezuela?
Like, I don't know what's going on.
And I'm like, really?
And so the issue for me with this is, you know, we, of course, were personally affected by the violence with the shooting we had in the past month.
Hence, we're not at the studio.
We were working on solving these problems.
And then the first day back, I'm coming in in the morning and I'm thinking, I'm going to pull up some Venezuela stuff and talk about Maduro and intervention, of which I have tons of opinions about.
And then I see breaking news: JD Vance's home shot at.
And I'm like, holy crap.
I look it up.
Okay, it was an attempted break-in.
And then we find out later in the day, it's a transgender leftist whose parents are Democrat donors.
And we're like, okay, we can see where this is going.
Now, I look at a story like this.
It is extremely disconcerting considering what we've already seen in terms of escalation.
But I also feel like you go to a regular person and you say, you hear about the vice president's house being attacked.
We're like, oh, yeah, that's crazy.
So as much as I think the bigger story personally is foreign policy, I think for the American people, this story is reminds me of the guy who smashed Nancy Pelosi's husband in the head with a hammer.
ian crossland
I mean, it was a break-in, glass shattered, hammer.
I think this guy used a hammer also.
tim pool
And I think they're a little different.
ian crossland
Yeah, it's definitely a different situation, but it reminded me of that.
tim pool
The thing about the Pelosi's getting attacked was that, like, this wasn't a right-wing guy.
This was a crazy person.
And initially, we didn't understand how this could have happened.
ian crossland
They might have known each other too.
Like, this is the first time.
tim pool
I think that was the original story.
I was like, maybe.
And so there was a lot of speculation, some of it obviously unwarranted, that it was like a booty cocky booty call or something.
I lean more towards like a drug thing.
This, however, is, I'll put it like this.
The Nancy Pelosi and the Paul Pelosi attack, horrifying.
Very, very bad.
Nobody wants that.
Worth talking about.
We have questions.
Same thing here.
However, this fits a pattern of an escalation of violence against right-wing individuals the left does not have.
phil labonte
Not only that, this is, I mean, how many trans people have, you know, acted out in a violent manner, politically motivated and stuff.
This has become undeniably a pattern.
I tried to, I mean, I didn't want to get involved in the, oh, look, it's the, it's always trans people, blah, blah, blah.
But it does get to the point where you're like, look, you can't deny the fact that these people, whether it's because whether it has anything to do with the fact that they're trans or just because they're trans and they're in the LGBTQ lobby and they feel like the LGBTQ identities are being repressed or whatever, so they're lashing out.
It's something that's real.
tim pool
You know, I think that's probably a factor, but I also think probably, and I say this without any derision or hate in my heart.
I mean, I mean this seriously, I think these people are sick.
I think if you are getting surgeries and you are taking medication, I'll just put it simply, you know, they're going to get offended.
Liberals will get offended by me saying this, but there is something wrong with you.
phil labonte
They'll get offended.
tim pool
They're going to price.
But here's the point.
There was this push to remove gender dysphoria from the DSM-5, and actual trans activists came out saying, stop, because if you get this removed as a mental disorder, diagnosable men's disorder, you can't get prescriptions for it.
So these people who want to be offended by me saying, there's something wrong with this person, they are sick and need help.
If that were not the case, they couldn't legally be prescribed medication.
Now, could they?
phil labonte
And look, to your point, like, even if they are sick, and I know that there are a lot of right-wing people that would hate even hearing this, but even if they are sick, like that doesn't mean that they can't get treatment and actually decide to live like the other sex if they want.
We can make room for that in society.
I don't think that we should be empowering them at all.
But the idea that because you're acknowledging that it is a disorder, that they're going to be shoved into the closet again.
I don't know that that's going to be the situation.
tim pool
No, no, go ahead.
tate brown
No, I was just saying, I mean, I think the bigger issue here is this isn't even really a personal issue with these people.
This is a society-wide issue because we're enabling behavior that is inherently self-destructive.
And so naturally, when you enable that, that sort of behavior is going to extrapolate out to the population that they're going to take this out in the population.
If they have such a poor perception of themselves or they feel like they were truly born in the wrong body, they're going to have a lot of difficulty interacting with other people and giving them if they can't, because if you can't give yourself dignity, you're certainly not going to extend that to other people.
tim pool
I'm in the camp where I don't even think they should get the surgery because even when they're adults, right?
unidentified
Because it's a mental disorder.
You don't go and tell someone who's too skinny, you need to actually eat less.
Like, what are you doing?
You're feeding their delusion by giving them these surgeries.
And then they're like, okay, well, I'm actually a woman now.
If you don't refer to me as a woman, I'm going to punch you in the face.
phil labonte
If you're surgery, should be outlawed.
tim pool
The hard thing about this for me is we left off last year being like, we're not having fun anymore.
You know, it used to be when we first started doing the show, when I was doing stuff, there were serious issues to talk about.
And sometimes we get angry, but there was always a little bit of laughing.
And I feel like in the past several months, Charlie Kirk's murder, there's no laughing.
There's less of it.
And I'm like, we need to try and laugh more.
It's really hard to do.
It's really hard to laugh at this and like to make jokes and have a good time.
And the problem I have with it is I feel like there are people who watch at home and all of us are super tightly wound up and high stroke.
This is what my problem when I wake up in the morning and I'm like, okay, let's talk about Venezuela foreign policy.
I mean, I've got concerns about intervention.
And then it's like, oh, actually, the biggest story right now is that someone tried breaking in.
Well, there were shots at JD Vance's house.
Not true, but that was the initial report.
Someone's trying to break in.
Another attack against the right.
And I'm like, man, it is really hard to stay positive and have fun.
So I will say moving forward, we're going to try.
ian crossland
And we're going to see.
unidentified
We can right here.
Look at this guy.
It looks like Job of the Hut.
tim pool
It looks like a Discord Reddit mod.
I mean, then you get banned for being hateful.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, guys, let us have fun.
Let's release a little steam.
ian crossland
Oh, funny.
unidentified
The haircut is ridiculous.
tim pool
The barber looks like a bunch of people.
tate brown
That's the Do the Roar special.
tim pool
It's disgusting.
They're all way too fat.
unidentified
They're all way too fat or way too skinny.
tim pool
They don't take care of their bodies.
No, no, I agree with this.
I don't care if you're trans.
Your haircut is disgusting.
tate brown
It looks like if one of the Beatles melted.
That's what it looks like.
I mean, this is really something.
ian crossland
Now we're getting somewhere.
tate brown
Yeah, now we're getting somewhere.
This really does illustrate the point, though.
It's like, you know, with these types of people that are roaming around the streets being completely enabled by society, like to enable their delusions, what you create in the United States and the West at large is you have an increasingly large proportion of the population that has nothing to lose.
This is obviously going to happen.
Like we have this issue in the United States where we want to address a level of the issue without going and cutting the head off a snake, right?
Like what's going on here is this is much higher.
This is of much larger magnitude, this issue in which people in American society feel like they have no purpose.
They feel like they're completely, I'll use the word that we were using last year, deracinated, and it causes these issues.
And so it's like, okay, we can clamp down on Antifa violence, da-da-da-da.
This is great.
But to undo this damage, to give people sort of meaning back in their lives, that's going to take a lot more work.
And quite frankly, a lot of those issues, people, they're politically radioactive.
People don't want to touch them.
It causes tremendous, tremendous issues.
But yeah, back to my first point, this is someone that has nothing to lose.
And there's a lot of people.
tim pool
You can see it in the eyes.
unidentified
You can always see it in the eyes.
tim pool
Look at that thing's eyes.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
If you have no purpose, no North Star in your life, you're going to lash out.
I would attach onto some sort of radical ideology.
tim pool
I was having a conversation at a poker table.
That's literally every story I have for you will begin.
And in all seriousness, it's largely because that's where you're sitting around a group of people and everyone's kind of debating.
But you got eight people at a table and there was this liberal guy.
And he said of the Somali daycare fraud stuff that he's totally fine with it.
And he says, I got no problem giving a small percent of my money to help people.
And I was like, but you're not helping people.
They're stealing money and buying Gucci with it.
And he goes, eh, what?
A billion dollars?
Who cares?
And I said, Gen Z, who can't afford homes, who can't get jobs, and are being told by you at Gen Xer, you don't care that the public coffers are being stolen for luxury items in an immigrant community.
I'm like, this is why you're going to get Nick Fuentes.
And he's like, I don't know what that is.
And I'm like, I said, you know, honestly, liberal and conservative just means I know the news or I don't know the news.
And I was like, I'm not saying this to be derisive, but if you don't know what's going on in the world and you don't know the news, you'll call yourself a liberal.
And he goes, I actually don't watch any news at all or read anything.
And I was like, well, you know, case in point, right?
unidentified
Did he identify his queens as kings?
Did he like say, oh, yeah, these queens are actually kings.
tim pool
They transition.
That's a good idea, actually.
I'll be like, my queens are kings.
I win, actually.
ian crossland
Of course.
tim pool
They identify as kings.
unidentified
So you've got to do it.
tim pool
They transition.
Next time I have queens and someone else has kings and we both go all in at the end, I'll be like, actually, we push.
It's a chop pot.
It's true.
tate brown
I have a jack of some sort of non-binary.
unidentified
Yeah, true.
tim pool
I point out with ACE is non-binary because it goes both ways.
unidentified
True, that is true.
phil labonte
There you go.
ian crossland
With this story about this guy who identified as transgender breaking JD Vance's or trying to break into his house.
I want to always remind people, it's a correlation.
Like having a mental disorder or any kind, like mentally ill people tend to be, you know, potentially commit more acts of illegality.
And people that are suffering from mental illness also might have an array of those things.
It doesn't mean that that's the reason they did it.
So it's very dangerous to go down the path of being like, well, if there's transgender, then fill in the blank.
It's a correlation.
tim pool
It's a good point because the correlation might not be gender dysphoria.
Gender dysphoria might be part, might be on top, right?
The underlying cause might result in violent tendencies or and gender dysphoria among other things.
So the issue is, and I agree with this, that someone will see, oh, another trans person committed an act of violence and it's like, whoa, There may be an underlying mental illness, nihilism, or some kind of social disorder that results in a multitude of things, including gender dysphoria, violence, anorexia, pike up, whatever it might be.
And I actually think that's the tendency.
I think that's true.
I don't see all these trans people and these stories of violence committed by trans shooters as an issue of trans people.
I see trans people as an issue of something else that combines these issues.
I think we've got dejected youth.
I think we've got social media-induced mental illness.
I think we've got drug-induced mental illness.
I think we're over-prescribing drugs to young people, to kids.
ian crossland
Speaking of, did you see the Trump administration just announced they're going to go from 72 mandated vaccines, scheduled vaccines, to 11?
tim pool
We do have that in the Russian.
ian crossland
That's wild.
We'll talk about that later tonight.
That's what we're doing.
tim pool
But we're over-prescribing medications.
And on top of that, the internet is destroying social function.
So when we talk about transgenderism, some of it being a social contagion, I think Dylan Mulvaney is a great example of this.
Dylan Mulvaney is not gender dysphoric, nor, what's the fetish one?
It turns them on to be a cross-dresser.
That's the fetish one.
AGP.
AGP.
Dylan Mulvaney is doing it for attention on social media, in my opinion.
Like that social drive is the social contagion.
And so it's not one thing.
It's a bunch of different things that are manifesting in a variety of problems in our society.
unidentified
I think another reason...
Oh, you can go.
Go ahead.
I feel like a lot of these trans people are people who grew up being told, oh, you're special your entire life.
You're in a special area of class where you're like a higher achiever and all that kind of stuff.
And then once their grades start slipping, there's a lot of this out there.
They no longer have that attention of being called special.
And then once they go through high school, they end up being like, well, nobody really wants to talk to me.
I'm not special anymore.
So I'm going to become trans or any plethora of anything of these things.
tim pool
That's the social contagion element.
Whereas it became trendy in the media.
TV shows were launched by it.
tate brown
And what Lance is talking about is like society permits antisocial behavior.
It never corrects for antisocial behavior.
And this is like across the board at all.
That's what creates crime.
The things that foster crime, especially in inner-city communities, is the fact that these communities do not police for antisocial behavior from an early age.
And then it manifests into violence.
It manifests into a whole plethora of issues.
It's the same thing with trans.
unidentified
I guess the other, this guy that just did this at JD Vance's house probably also did this because he wanted to be famous in some sort, in some way.
tate brown
Yeah, well, all the social incentives in American society skew towards anti-social behavior.
phil labonte
But it does obviously be a lot of fun.
It does seem like trans people, it's a manifestation of a bunch of different things like we're talking about.
AGP is one of them.
The idea that if you're a white man, you've been deemed, or a young white man, you've been demonized so much that there's really no social benefit to being a straight white guy.
But if you're a trans person or what have you, then that's some kind of social benefit that you'll get.
Whereas if you're a straight white guy, you don't get it.
tim pool
So you need a lot of people.
phil labonte
Yeah, exactly.
So how do you get out of that?
If you're told when you're a young kid that you're inherently evil, oh, well, you know, if you decide that you're non-binary in area or maybe you're trans or what have you, there's an incentive to join the LGBT lobby and get away from the, oh, you're just a normal white guy.
No, no, I'm not.
I'm non-binary.
I'm translating.
tate brown
Yeah, it certainly looks like.
tim pool
It's got a tic-tac-toe thing going on.
I'm biracial.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
I've said transition.
Now I'm a black man.
phil labonte
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
It's definitely a subconscious thing because, I mean, if it were a conscious thing, these people already presuppose that white men are actually like ruling everything.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
They would want to be a white man.
So if anything, it is subconscious.
tim pool
All right, let's get into the nitty-gritty.
We got breaking news coming out of Venezuela.
Heavy gunfire in Caracas.
Let's roll tape.
Could it be that this is just celebratory?
unidentified
That's true.
phil labonte
Big celebration.
tim pool
That they are so happy that Maduro is out, they are shooting anti-material, anti-aircraft rounds into the air.
ian crossland
Yeah, I haven't heard of that before.
tim pool
It's a celebration.
These are not just bullets.
I probably shouldn't be the ghost of Kemp.
phil labonte
I'll say this much.
I don't think that it's actually the United States doing an op because the lights are on.
When the U.S. went in, they just turned Caracas off.
Everything was out.
tim pool
Disclose TV half an hour ago had a report.
Explosions reported at Mira Flores Palace in Venezuela's capital, Caracas, according to El Paez.
So we've also got this report.
We'll rope it in here.
Venezuela's Caracas stock exchange ends the day nearly 70% higher as markets react to the U.S. capturing President Maduro.
ian crossland
Oh my gosh.
tim pool
What we're seeing here with this gunfire, we don't know what it is, but I would say I've seen a lot of the pro-Trump, the MAGA faction, celebrating U.S. intervention.
There has been a good example of this criticism we've seen is Viva Fry criticizing Matt Walsh, Matt Walsh saying, hey, if we're going to go in and take resources of our country, it's a good thing.
Then Viva, of course, saying, here's a post from Matt Walsh about foreign intervention in the Middle East.
It does seem, at least in my opinion, that there is an incongruence.
I would describe it as there's a lot of people on the right who are celebrating this intervention, despite being generally anti-intervention for the most part when it comes to the Middle East.
I don't think they're mutually exclusive.
I think you can support this operation while opposing what we did in the Middle East.
However, my point is, there are some people that are clearly just saying whatever Trump does is right.
And there are a lot of people more on the left saying no matter what Trump does, he's wrong.
A good example being Chris Murphy, who in 2019 said Trump should be organizing like the removal of Maduro.
He's way more dangerous.
And then now today saying it's an illegal attack on Venezuela.
But the big picture here is this: the concern I have always with regime change operations, intervention, even when it is in our backyard and smoothly done, like this, is potential destabilization.
So let me just say this right away because I know everyone is aching to hear my opinions.
I talked about it in the morning show, but for those that are just watching IRL, this is, I'm lukewarm on this operation.
I can very easily say a few things.
Venezuela aggresses upon us all the time.
They are in our backyard, right?
We are operating in the Gulf of America, sorry, Gulf of America.
Don't misgender it.
And Venezuela does as well.
And Venezuela does manufacture drugs.
Many of those drugs are sent to this country.
And so the question is: the way I describe it is like this: if you had a neighbor across the street from you who kept shooting guns and had drug dealers coming out of his house, and it was attracting homeless people and criminals, and they started hanging out on your property, and you had to keep coming out and stopping people from breaking stuff on your property.
At what point do you call the police and say, I want you to take that guy down by force?
ian crossland
Like a meeting.
tim pool
That's the question of war.
So you've got these people that are saying, I thought you opposed intervention.
Why would you support Venezuela?
And it's like, well, hold on.
You're talking about Afghanistan and Iraq and war with Iran.
We're talking about 20,000 miles away.
This is not something directly in our backyard.
Sure, it's like saying I got a beef with the guy on the other side of town.
And at a certain point, you do call the cops on him.
But there's a big difference with Venezuela being in our backyard.
ian crossland
And there's a lot of difference between regime change and regime change war.
When you look at what the economic hitman talks about, first you try and bribe the guy to get a regime change.
If you won't take the money, then you go kidnap him or execute him for the regime change.
That fails.
Then you do a regime change war.
So they seem to be at part two.
They got him.
They stole him, took him.
And they're foisting a regime change.
Ideally, with no proceeding war after the fact.
But the thing is, man, you don't celebrate day one after an operation.
Be like, see, he finally did it.
They finally did regime change right.
Like, bro, when was the last time you saw the United States do regime change right?
tim pool
When it got more videos coming out of Venezuela.
See, this is what I'm talking about, man.
Check this out.
Unidentified drones flew over the Miraflores Palace in central Caracas, leading security forces to open fire.
This is why we're seeing those shots.
So what you were saying, civilian drones?
tate brown
Yeah, so a lot of the local reporting in Venezuela is saying that it was a civilian drone that got too close to the palace and the Venezuelans just unloaded on it.
Because, I mean, tensions are high.
Obviously, they're freaking out.
They're in disarray.
phil labonte
So if it was the United States, they would just turn Caracas off again.
tim pool
So we've got an Israeli drone, I bet.
phil labonte
Oh, here we go.
tim pool
See, I got a video here.
I don't know if it's real.
I don't know if I want to play it or not because it's just a video of people shooting.
And so I'm not going to pull this in.
It says there's reported gunfire, according to Bloomberg, around Venezuela's capital in Caracas.
And it shows a video of a guy.
unidentified
We need to get the idea.
tim pool
I don't want to play this because we don't know if it's real.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
And it's from, yeah, it's from 40 about an hour, almost an hour ago.
So we can't confirm a lot of these things.
What I will say is, as more information is starting to come in, the concern I have with regime change, and again, brilliant point, Ian.
All of these people, like, you know, Matt Wall says regime change war is bad.
Now we're talking about regime change without the war.
And the war was always the biggest factor in it.
I'm going to stress this.
I'm still not a fan of us going and removing the government or whatever.
I say I'm lukewarm on it.
Iraq, Afghanistan, easily opposed to a great degree.
War with Iran?
Absolutely not.
Venezuela, I don't like it, but there's a big difference here.
And it's not a war.
However, the reason why I don't like it is very clear.
People have said it's not Islamic tribesmen and goat herders who are fighting with each other without a stable government.
It's Venezuela, okay?
It's the removal of one leader and the government can continue.
Yes, but there are narco gangs, there are cartels, and a power vacuum will create conflict.
So what happens now if the U.S., they say, we're running the show there until they can have an election?
Yeah, what happens if a cartel goes, now's our chance.
The U.S. has not come in.
There's no boots on the ground.
And the government's been, is now in chaos.
What's to stop criminal gangs to go in and try and start seizing power?
What's to stop them from going and seizing industry?
The U.S. sending boots on the ground?
Great.
Then we get the war portion of this.
Or we ignore it and let criminals stage a coup or other factions.
We tried it in Iran, and I know Iran is very different from the United States.
I'm sorry, from Venezuela.
The point is, the last thing we want is destabilization in Venezuela.
Because if you thought the narco gangs and the cartels were bad now, what happens when the whole country is destabilized?
I know Maduro's a bad guy.
Venezuela is better off without him.
So long as they don't destabilize because of this.
tate brown
Yeah, well, there's two points, and then a third to address that.
The first two, I think the reason why people are antsy about this, but have come around on this specific intervention, is because it's actually rare to see competency in these operations from the United States.
Like, for what it's worth, we're not the best at running an empire.
Like if you compare us to like these historic empires, we're not very good at conducting affairs.
And so people don't expect competency from these sorts of operations.
The fact that this was done in 88 minutes and an hour, Maduro's in a black bag back in New York Stewart blows people's minds.
And that's why people are like, wow, it's like, actually, if this is how we're going to conduct these operations, I do support these because I didn't expect that.
I did not factor that in.
The second point being, the United States clearly communicated what its foreign policy goals were in the Western Hemisphere.
And that's a breath of fresh air to people to say, we looked at the NSS.
It was very clear what we wanted to do in our backyard.
And then we went and did it.
There was no inconsistency what we saw with Libya, what we saw with Iraq, Afghanistan, you name it.
It was ambiguous.
There was not much communication to the American people.
None of it really made a lot of sense geopolitically.
The goals changed three years in.
A lot of different moving parts.
With this one, we literally said in the NSS, we are going to patrol our own neighborhood.
And then that's exactly what happened.
So no one felt like the blind was pulled down on them.
And then to Tim's point about the destabilization.
One thing that has to be factored in here is that the opposition party received like tremendous support in the last election.
They're currently in exile.
But presumably, if they do return to Venezuela, which is probably going to happen, they will have pretty popular support within Venezuela.
The military there probably come around.
There's a lot of reports of a lot of these generals and officers in the military were never loyalists to Maduro in the first place.
So it's very likely that if the United States does install the opposition, obviously that's been exiled, then it probably wouldn't be too hard to wrangle the country back under control.
tim pool
Here's what matters.
The American economy is about to boom.
Yep.
We just got, what, billions?
unidentified
I think 17 trillion.
tim pool
Trillions of barrels of oil.
Is that what it is?
unidentified
I think it's 17 trillion.
phil labonte
Well, you know, it's going to take a while to get it out of the ground, but yeah.
tim pool
You can make a lot of plastic with that.
And we like our plastic here in the United States.
unidentified
So the price of Legos is going to go down.
ian crossland
Oh, yeah, bro.
tim pool
This is the name of the game.
I guarantee you, I guarantee you, first of all, we're in Florida right now.
You go out in Florida and ask someone what they think about Maduro, and you're going to find a lot of Venezuelan exiles who are going to be like, yes.
We saw people driving around with the Venezuelan flag on it.
They're happy Maduro is gone.
They are here because Maduro burned their country down.
Not just him, Chavez, who then handed it to the bus driver Maduro, who chubbily ate an empanada live on TV while the nation was starving.
These are not good people.
But I go to a regular American anywhere, and I guarantee you, if I say, what do you think about Venezuela?
They're going to be like, what?
I said, what do you think about Trump going in and removing the guy, the president of Venezuela?
And they're going to be like, he did?
Because I kid you not, that's what was happening yesterday when I said that guy was like, I don't watch the news.
He's like, we did what in Venezuela?
And I'm like, we conquered them in an hour.
And he was like, oh.
But I tell you this.
What happens if I go to that person and say, hey, the milk, bread, and eggs are all dollar cheaper?
They're going to go, yeah, let's go.
Your rent is going down.
Awesome.
Homes are cheaper.
That's good news.
How do you do it?
We steal energy from other countries.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So I'm hearing, you know, when Matt Walsh says, if the United States is going to go to another country and take their resources for us, then good.
And I'm seeing these people go, so you're saying that might makes right?
Let me just stress this for everybody.
Might makes.
That's it.
Right is not an equation.
It doesn't matter.
Your morality doesn't matter.
When the barbarian kicks your door in, burns down your house and steals your gold.
You can complain all day and night about what was moral and what was unjust.
But guess what?
He did.
China will do it.
I love this viral clip.
I don't know if you guys saw it.
Where a Venezuelan was like, to all the people claiming that they only went in and removed the Maduro for oil, what did you think China and Iran were doing in our country?
It's all for the oil.
I'm not justifying it or saying it's good.
I'm making the point that a praying mantis will chop off the head of another bug to eat it.
And we don't go, it's evil.
No, it's a bug preying upon something.
You know, I was thinking about this in terms of someone was talking to me about the threats of violence, and they said you must get a lot of enemies in your line of work.
And I thought about it for a second, and I was like, you know, I don't really care for the phrase enemies, to be honest.
I mean, I'm not trying to be naive or anything.
But my point is, if a grizzly bear is walking through the forest and wants me to maul me to death, do I call it my enemy?
No, we don't refer to it that way.
Grizzly bear is going to do what grizzly bear does.
Humans are going to do what humans do.
And certainly I understand the distinction of what enemy means.
A person targeting me, they don't like my ideology.
My point is, in the grand scale of the world, everyone's going to justify whatever they have to do to steal from everybody else.
What we want on this planet is no more war.
We don't want it.
We want to work that away.
The point, I suppose, is we're not there.
We are not at a point where we can go to China and say, guys, please stop engaging in warfare and illicit activities.
Hey, Venezuela, we tried this with sanctions.
I believe that the United States is arguably one of the most noble when it comes to war, despite all of its failings.
And people are going to argue, how could you say that, Tim?
We invaded Iraq and Afghanistan on lies.
Uh-huh.
And everyone else does substantially worse.
I'm not saying we are good.
I'm saying the most noble.
And that's a low bar.
My point is the first thing we did was we told Venezuela, stop giving oil to Iran, who is funding terrorists, who are bombing things in the Middle East and destabilizing the region.
Now, I can make the argument, why are we involved in the Middle East?
Fine, everybody can.
But the point is, we first said, guys, please no.
They told us to go F ourselves.
We told Iran, if you're going to do dirty things, we're going to sanction you.
I think sanctions are a good thing.
We don't want to go to war.
We don't want boots on the ground.
So we say, we're not going to buy and trade with you.
I think that's fair.
I got no obligation to buy from you or trade with you.
And I could say everybody, stop trading with them.
We don't want war.
So we're going to do it this way.
Well, Venezuela bypasses that.
Sooner or later, you have to say, I am willing to assert authority or I'm not.
If the United States is going to allow Venezuela to allow Iran to come in and build bases, create a hub, and China as well, and they're going to start selling massive amounts of oil to China to bypass our sanctions and our system and fund wars against us.
It is not a simple, there's no reality.
There's no zero-sum game.
Sooner or later, China is going to make moves against us, and they already are.
And they do it every single day.
And the question is, what are our intentions?
And my view is this.
We don't want war and we avoided all costs.
Prepare for war.
Because if you don't, China will take everything.
Iran will take everything.
So that's why when I see these people who are like, intervention is always bad no matter what.
And I'm like, dude, sooner or later, something happens, whether you want it to or not, and you're in a fight.
Okay.
Like I gave the analogy earlier about your neighbor with guns.
I've been in situations in Chicago.
I don't go to my neighbor's house and say, I'm going to fight you.
No, but they're flinging dog crap on my lawn.
Do I just sit there and say, well, I don't want to fight, so I'm going to let them do it.
No, you say stop or else.
ian crossland
In fact, the French, right before World War II popped off, when the Germans invaded Poland and took Poland, the French had about two weeks to invade Germany and attack.
They declared war and they just sat there because there's still this hope of like, maybe if we just appease, maybe they'll just stop.
Bro, when there's a belligerent force on the move, they don't just stop.
You can pray all you want, but at some point, you need to stop the belligerence.
And that's, I'm not, this is not a, I'm not like qualifying the Venezuelan shit because I don't know.
It is like a bastion of defense for our Gulf of America, protecting the Panama Canal, and it removes the influence of the Chinese in Venezuela, which also helps.
So not only do you reduce.
tim pool
But it's as simple as this.
Are these people opposed to this operation literally of the mindset that never for any reason should we be involved in a conflict outside of our borders?
phil labonte
No, they're purely anti-American.
That's it.
America does.
ian crossland
Tucker Carlson?
phil labonte
No, not Tucker Carlson.
ian crossland
Talk about the left.
tim pool
Tucker's the left.
I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure he's been critical of the actions in Venezuela.
unidentified
Pretty sure.
tim pool
Megan Kelly as well.
Well, I don't think they hate America.
phil labonte
No, no, like I said.
tim pool
So my point is, I don't want a war in Venezuela and I don't want any destabilization.
However, that's why I say I'm lukewarm on this because we didn't go to war.
We removed the guy who was aggressing upon us in our backyard and allowing our adversaries to operate in our hemisphere, in our region.
I mean, at a certain point, we have to say, guy, stop.
Like, bro, if you keep throwing things at me, I'm going to hit you.
Okay, I don't want to hit you.
This is the self-defense argument we always make on this show.
No, you don't go out and just shoot a guy who's pissing you off.
But when they caught, like, when they actually threaten your life, they are walking onto your property.
I talk about this in terms of like West Virginia versus, say, New Jersey.
New Jersey says if a guy breaks in your house, you can't defend yourself.
Okay, that's insane.
Now, don't get me wrong.
If you told me you were going to leave your house, walk to a neighbor's house because he was threatening you, and then you're going to shoot him, I'm going to say, yeah, that you're going to go to jail for that.
But we're talking about with Venezuela, a guy aggressing upon us, and we're calling the cops on him.
unidentified
So what do you think?
tim pool
We didn't go to war.
We didn't invade.
We removed one guy because we tried sanctions and it didn't work.
Again, I'm not saying it was the right move, and I think there are great risks here.
I'm just saying this is not an easy circumstance like Afghanistan, where we can say sending thousands of troops for 20 years to this country made no sense.
That's clear.
phil labonte
They specifically had DEA agents out so that way it was, it could be, it could be argued that it was a law enforcement operation.
tim pool
Bro, but it's not about drugs.
phil labonte
No, but that was the pretense to get.
tate brown
That was for the courts.
phil labonte
Yeah, that was exactly what we're doing.
ian crossland
That's the weapons of mass destruction.
tate brown
That's what all this is.
And this is like what people need to understand about Trump and why Trump is a departure from previous administrations is because Trump is a foreign policy realist fundamentally.
Like he tweeted back in 2012, he was talking about the Iraq war and he was like, why didn't we get the oil?
That was his question.
Because he accurately views the United States as an empire.
We're kind of post-republic at this point.
We are an empire.
So if we're going to conduct these sort of foreign policy interventions, like Tim's saying, a lot of people in America aren't keeping up with the geopolitical ramifications.
They're just wondering, what's in it for me?
ian crossland
It's cheap.
phil labonte
If it's good for the United States, it's good.
That's the reality.
ian crossland
Beyond that short-term good might be a long-term bad.
tate brown
But beyond that, this is the important point regarding the Trump doctrine is that he fundamentally views every single country at the negotiating table as self-interested.
And that is a massive departure from previous administrations.
Previous administrations are like, we have these alliances.
Adam is here.
Alliance is here.
There's an axis of evil.
Trump treats every country the same.
He says they're looking out for their people.
They're self-interested.
I'm going to behave self-interested.
I'm going to look out for the interest of Americans.
phil labonte
And that's a Transportation.
tim pool
I feel like the actions of the Democratic Party over the past several years was a lesson intentionally done to teach people like me why we have intervention.
That is, Democrats willing to arrest Trump's lawyers in a violation of the Constitution and the media willing to lie to cover it up makes me go, well, I guess if you're unwilling to defend your world and your views, people will aggress upon you in evil ways.
And the realization there, I'm half kidding, obviously.
My point is we've always known that evil people will do evil things.
And the argument often made, which we've talked about to a great extent on this show, is if we don't, China will.
If not China, somebody else.
Russia will.
So the question is, do you want to be under the boot of a Chinese unipolar power?
No, we don't.
Well, here's the reality, guys.
By all means, I can talk about the real problems with regime change war and intervention.
And that is destabilization of regions, which screws us over.
Like, the rise of ISIS was not good for our interests.
Unless, of course, Obama was just doing it to screw with Syria and have a proxy war.
But it looks like we continually, like the Mujahideen makes Al-Qaeda, we get 9-11.
If you want to make the argument, none of it, if you believe that 9-11 was an inside job, then perhaps maybe your argument is the U.S. should stop it.
It'll all go away.
I don't think so.
I think if the U.S. backs down and lets Maduro and the Venezuelans do whatever they want, China bypasses everything that we've done.
And the end result is this.
It doesn't matter what you're for or against.
The petrodollar falls and the American economy collapses.
I'm not saying one thing is right or one thing is wrong.
I'm asking you what you want.
It's an honest question.
Do you like the economy in the United States?
Now, many people are going to say, no, it's bad.
Okay.
Do you want it to get worse?
Of course not.
Well, the U.S. economy is propped up on the petrodollar and the U.S. stealing oil from other countries.
And I'm saying that in a very crude manner.
You want to get the specifics?
The U.S. enforces the petrodollar, which makes other countries buy U.S. dollars to buy oil.
The contract with the Saudis ended, and Trump needs to restart that.
If we don't have it, you will come to realize the U.S. does not export enough to create a strong economy.
And then you'll wonder why laptops cost $10,000.
Your car will be $100,000.
unidentified
The thing is, the leftists are like, oh, Trump's a war criminal.
This is war crimes and all that stuff.
It's international law.
phil labonte
Well, honestly, international law is massive.
tim pool
I don't really give a shit about international law.
If you can't enforce the law, there is no law.
tate brown
Who enforces international law?
Oh, the United States.
It's legal.
phil labonte
So who cares?
tim pool
You know what I love is the idea of a war crime.
Yeah, right?
I love this because it's gentlemen in the battlefield agreeing not to kill each other in certain ways.
The problem with the ideas of war crimes is it only constrains those who try to be noble.
Yes.
I'm not saying people should commit war crimes.
I know the left will misconstrue what I'm saying.
My point is, the United States takes very serious precautions against killing civilians.
Not always.
Obama doesn't get a lot of credit for that one.
But our troops on the ground are constrained heavily when they can engage, who they can engage with.
The enemy, not so much.
The enemy wants to bomb to a child and send the child to go blow you up.
So, anyway, let's jump to this next portion of this.
ian crossland
Dresden, the firebombing of Dresden, like all those things.
tim pool
War is war, baby, and winning is winning.
phil labonte
Before we jump, I guess it's bad for communists.
It's good.
Period.
tim pool
If it's bad for the communists, we should be kidnapping a bunch of communists.
Guys, guys, we've got this big story from CNN, and I want to first start by saying I have deep concerns about U.S. intervention in Venezuela, but I wholeheartedly support the invasion of Greenland.
Trump threats stretch far and wide since his Venezuela strike.
I'm kidding, by the way, but I'm sure that'll get taken out of context.
Apparently, Trump has passively threatened to take Greenland by force and Iran.
And now you've got a bunch of MAGA people tweeting out or posting an X, who's next.
phil labonte
If we can remove a government in 90 minutes, it's worth knowing the 160th SAR, basically the Nightstalkers, the guys that fly the choppers for the special forces.
They've been making a lot of moves to Europe right now, and I've read a lot of chatter that says that there's a lot of special forces guys going to be.
unidentified
They flew to the UK, right?
phil labonte
I saw that.
Yeah, but I think that was just a jumping off.
tim pool
We got Greenland's next, you're saying?
phil labonte
I mean, maybe.
tate brown
We got the hot hand.
It's like an NBA player knocks a few threes.
We're going to keep shooting.
I don't even have to do it.
What's next?
Let's take out the camera.
unidentified
Go to a big hill in Greenland and then just make a snowball and then just let it come down and blow it up.
phil labonte
Let's take cash.
unidentified
All we have to do is place one flag in Greenland and they couldn't do shit.
tim pool
Everyone here at Tim Cast is a neocon now.
American exceptionalism, spread democracy.
tate brown
John Bolton, I apologize for the same thing.
I'm like, John Bolton, if you can hear me, please.
phil labonte
Listen, don't take Greenland.
Take Denmark and you get Greenland.
tim pool
That's a good idea.
tate brown
And he keeps the Lego price down.
tim pool
Yeah, and I would love nothing more than to conquer Christiania, if you guys know what that is.
No, you know what that is, right?
I'm kidding.
ian crossland
All of Christendom?
tim pool
No, it's a small portion of Copenhagen that claims to be separate from the EU.
phil labonte
It's called a beachhead.
tate brown
Yeah, it's so true.
tim pool
They declared independence, and like when you go there, I've been there several times, and it's amazing.
I'm kidding, by the way, about conquering them.
It's just a great place.
And it's like good food.
tate brown
Well, I'm not kidding.
unidentified
We could go and take over the Islamic Republic of the United Kingdom, and that'd be a great thing as well.
tim pool
I mean, just kidnap.
unidentified
They call him Kier Stalin.
They call him Kier Stalin down there.
tim pool
Yeah, but my president is not a good person.
My problem with the U.S. invasion of the Islamic Republic of the United Kingdom is that the war would create a lot of refugees.
I don't think the U.S. can handle that many Islamic refugees coming.
unidentified
The dentists would be in a lot of work, though.
tim pool
If the refugees come, we'd have a lot of dentists.
The braces, manufacturing plants would go through the roof.
We would be booming.
No, but this is booming.
tate brown
We don't have to worry about it.
tim pool
I'm sorry.
You're actually, I got to counter, you're wrong.
They are chopped.
Well, actually, I don't know the kind, like, I don't know if Pakistani's teeth are good or bad or whatever.
My point is, at this point, if we were to invade the UK, we would get Muslim refugees.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
We wouldn't be getting British refugees.
unidentified
It's disgusting.
ian crossland
My take on Greenland is that I know people are hyped up with adrenaline right now.
And it's like, look, the sneak attack worked.
Like, okay, the Germans were able to take Poland fast, and then they snuck attack France.
We could take Greenland, but you better believe the whole world, that would change everything about the liberal economic order's view of the United States.
It would not be good.
I want the land.
I'd love to go to Greenland.
unidentified
No, there's so much.
tim pool
We can go to Greenland.
phil labonte
It's not like offline.
tim pool
Hold on, guys.
I need to say, I have deep concerns about the narco-terrorist known as Jens Frederick Nielsen.
tate brown
Oh, those guys are prosperous.
tim pool
Isn't that guy the I've heard they have a lot of snow down there?
So we can miss this narco-terrorist, Jens Frederick Nielsen, gotta go.
unidentified
Did they make free?
tim pool
No, we have no choice.
tate brown
Yeah, apparently the polar bears are using coke.
unidentified
Yeah, that's what I heard.
tim pool
That's not a glacier.
ian crossland
It's cocaine bear, but it's polar bears.
unidentified
It's insane.
tim pool
Tell me about polar bears.
In case it is not clear, Jens Frederick Nielsen is not a narco-terrorist.
He's just the prime minister of Greenland.
It's a joke.
ian crossland
So if Trump took Greenland, if Trump issued a military attack on Greenland and the Kingdom of Denmark, that would start World War III.
unidentified
Oh, it would be a good idea.
ian crossland
It would, but it wouldn't aware it wouldn't.
tim pool
It would.
ian crossland
China would take Taiwan, Russia, and Trump.
phil labonte
No, You know what would happen?
tate brown
Is Denmark would cut off the Ozempic supply and we'd get really fat and then they could take us.
tim pool
China's not going to make a move if we fight with ourselves.
Denmark is part of the Western power.
ian crossland
But let me finish this off.
But it would give us an advantage in the war if we had Greenland.
So it would be tactically sound if you were going to start World War III.
tim pool
Invading Denmark would not make World War III happen.
ian crossland
It just gives the castle belly to China.
phil labonte
No, it doesn't.
ian crossland
No, it doesn't.
tim pool
China has no interests in Denmark.
ian crossland
No, no, it's been taking something.
phil labonte
Everyone will take something.
ian crossland
That's why we're with Mussolini.
tim pool
China can't have cause for war because within the Western powers, we moved pieces around.
Otherwise, war would have started yesterday.
But there's conflict happening all over Europe and the United States.
ian crossland
It's the seizure of territory that kind of like makes it okay for China.
tim pool
No, it doesn't.
tate brown
China hasn't taken Taiwan because they can't yet.
They have the justification, so to speak, from the Chinese perspective that they take Taiwan.
They just haven't done it yet.
tim pool
They've claimed forever.
The communists have said Taiwan is a part of China and they're just in rebellion.
So they've already claimed the cast's belly.
They just can't do it.
So invading Denmark wouldn't change anything.
We shouldn't invade Denmark.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
But I can say, if Trump just sent a bunch of troops to Greenland, they can say whatever they want.
I want to tell you guys, I've told this story before, but I'm going to say it again because we're all adults here.
When I was young, I had a friend and I said, would you like to go skateboarding?
And he said, I can't.
I'm grounded.
And I said, oh, what does that mean?
And he goes, I can't go outside.
And I'm like, oh, so what happens if you go outside?
Well, I'll get grounded longer.
Okay.
And then what happens if you go outside again?
My parents would ground me forever.
And I'm like, I don't think you're following the logic here.
Nothing is stopping you from going outside.
My point is, if the U.S. marched into Greenland, Denmark would say a lot of things that would do literally nothing.
They'd say, we're mad at you, the United States.
And we'd say, okay, acknowledge.
tate brown
They send in the Lego off and a bigger thing.
tim pool
If we can drop Lizzo on Greenland, it would be ours.
It's worth pointing out that it's going to do a lot of damage and be like, we don't need to do any of that.
We could literally just walk in and be like, it's ours.
phil labonte
We're already there, guys.
unidentified
There's already a U.S. military base on Greenland.
tate brown
We're sending in a mobilized dog sled unit.
What do we do?
phil labonte
It's like the idea of taking Greenland.
We like dogs.
We already have military personnel there.
Because Greenland is strategic.
We monitor Russia from Greenland.
It's not like we have to take it away.
We're already present there.
tim pool
As a total aside, someone just commented, Lizzo lost half her body.
tate brown
Literally.
tim pool
That's insane.
tate brown
Yeah, and then as soon as Denmark cuts it off, she gets really takes up all the space and the money.
tim pool
Chris Christie.
Let's just do Chris Christie.
Chris Crispy.
tate brown
Also, like, just from a geopolitical perspective, all the U.S. has to do is just threaten to cut down our NATO funding.
And then everyone else in NATO is going to be like, Denmark just.
tim pool
You know, hold on.
I just think it actually would be really funny if what's the city in Greenland?
tate brown
Nook.
tim pool
Nook.
Wouldn't it be really funny if Marco Rubio came out and said, we've uncovered a fentanyl ring in Nook?
Bro, at this point, no.
phil labonte
He comes out with mittens on and like a big winter jacket.
tim pool
My point is the Venezuela thing is clearly not about drugs.
phil labonte
No.
No, no, no.
tim pool
And it's very silly.
Like to like to Rubio, the administration, guys, it's not 2003 anymore.
Okay.
You're not going to come out and be like, the drugs.
Just tell us it's not.
phil labonte
No, I don't.
But I do think that they're actually, I do think they're being more honest about it than anything else.
Like they picked up Maduro.
That's the justification of drugs.
But like Trump was saying, you know, it's about the oil.
It's about the fact that they stole stuff.
And there's one more point when it comes to Venezuela that I want to make.
Like in living memory, this was a thriving country with a capitalist society.
There are people that are in their 50s that remember what it was like.
So it's far more likely that these people are going to be like, yeah, we want to go back to the way that it was than to say, oh, we want to see another one.
tim pool
But this is the richest country in South America.
It was the richest.
And it has all the oil, all the gold.
tate brown
That's like being the gayest guy in San Francisco.
ian crossland
That argument is what they'll say about Iran.
tim pool
Yeah, but they were wealthy.
ian crossland
They'll say the Iranians used to be so flourishing before the Shah was removed, so we have the same right as we did in Venezuela.
phil labonte
I didn't say that we have the same right.
And I'm not making the point that Iran is the same thing as Venezuela.
Venezuela and Iran are two very, very different populations.
There is a large percentage of Iran that doesn't like the Ayatollahs.
There's a lot of people that consider themselves Persians.
They don't consider themselves Iranians.
And they're having a massive civil unrest there now, anyways.
And I'm not saying that the U.S. should go in, although it might be happening considering what we talked about with the SOAR with the 160th going over to Europe.
tate brown
And we're quick with the narco-terrorism thing.
We know that this plan has been, was hashed like five, six months ago, and it's been in development since seven months ago.
It's about six or seven months ago.
So the reason they were laying this out and saying this is like purely about drugs is because they knew they were going to blackbag Maduro and bring him to the Southern District of New York.
So you needed to have charges ready to go.
You can't just charge him for being mean.
That just doesn't stand up in court.
You just need to protect.
Because we could try.
Because we've seen these courts screw with.
phil labonte
It's also worth noting.
Look, the Biden administration put a $25 million bounty on his head.
Joe Biden's administration.
ian crossland
Did Trump collect it?
unidentified
What?
ian crossland
Did Trump collect it?
phil labonte
No, what they should do, and I said this, I actually just divided.
tim pool
I was like, I'd like my money to go.
phil labonte
Look, they should take that $25 million and they should give it to the guys that went in and got them.
True.
They should split it up among the delta.
tim pool
I'm going to say this.
We should have Greenland.
tate brown
I know.
I understand why it's on ours.
tim pool
I think it is the stupidest thing in the world that Trump goes, like, maybe we'll buy Greenland or something.
And the liberals are like, oh, no, Trump's an Imperialist Invading.
I'm like, what are you talking about?
This is the history of all countries, of our country.
Now, if you want to argue that Trump going to Nook and just massacring civilians to seize territory is a bad thing, agreed.
But Trump negotiating terms that brings Greenland into the American fold is a good thing.
ian crossland
I'd love to buy it.
I just don't know how that would cost.
tim pool
Also, Denmark's like, it's not for sale like $45.
It's not how we play.
It's packing cigarettes, too.
I reject.
phil labonte
I despise this.
tim pool
Did you guys know that West Virginia's Constitution allows for any bordering Virginian county to join West Virginia?
unidentified
That's cool.
tim pool
Because when they were creating it, they were neighbors and they said, if you decide in the future you want to join, you can.
And, you know, I was talking to a guy in West Virginia about it.
He says, yeah, but Virginia would never allow it.
And I says, why do we as Americans accept the idea that a despot 500 miles away can tell us how to live when the foundation of this country was telling a despot 3,000 miles away he can't tell us how to live?
If the people of Nook say, we don't want Denmark, we want America, then Denmark can shove it.
The idea that the Danish are like, it's ours and you can't buy it.
That's not up to you.
If the 56,000 people in Greenland hold a legitimate vote and say, we don't want to be a part of your country, we want to join the United States, then Denmark can shove it.
ian crossland
It is true if that were real, but what they'll do is the CIA will send protesters over there, pay them the whole USAID thing to make it seem like a color they really want it.
tim pool
The next thing you're going to tell me is that Israel attacked the USS Labor.
ian crossland
Yeah, like it went after one of our ships, an NSA spy ship in the Mediterranean.
tim pool
That clip is going to be taken out of context, and they're going to claim that I was literally saying that they were going to start.
ian crossland
I heard that.
tate brown
Israel is a carnival ship?
ian crossland
What's going on?
Greenland's prime minister, at least I read on Twitter four hours ago, that he wants to parlay with the American government.
He wants to make a deal of some sort, whereas the king of Denmark is saying, no, stop.
Greenland's ours.
tim pool
I don't care what he has to say.
I don't.
Look, there's in northern Colorado, there's a county that wants to leave because Colorado's oppressive.
And I'm like, yeah, okay.
Well, you like, bro, if the city of Chicago voted to leave Illinois, I would say, okay.
ian crossland
So I'm wondering if the prime minister of Denmark or of Greenland is realizing the writing's on the wall, let's make a deal and get out of here.
Let's leave and go to the U.S. if he's going to no longer be the prime minister within the next couple weeks, if the king's going to have him removed through the governor general or whatever.
tate brown
One thing we got to consider here, too, is like Greenland is this has been what the United States has been fighting against like since its inception is it's trying to buck the old world's order, like the way that the old world conducts themselves.
And Greenland is really, the Danish inherited Greenland from their ancestors, from the Vikings who conquered all these territories and whatnot.
And so it's like the fact that they're even sovereign over it in the first place is hilarious because the society that conquered Greenland in the first place is no longer there.
The Danish now are like just metrosexuals.
unidentified
In my point of view, I think Greenland was promised to us 250 years ago.
phil labonte
Never mind that we were running Greenland when the Nazis took Denmark.
tim pool
How would you guys feel about what's what's the yearly GDP of the United States?
Like what's what's our spend?
Like 2 trillion, right?
phil labonte
That's a question.
tate brown
26 trillion, I think.
tim pool
But what's our actual federal budget?
ian crossland
Probably get it from U.S. debt clock.
tate brown
$6 trillion.
unidentified
$67 trillion?
tate brown
$67 trillion?
unidentified
Really?
tate brown
No, it's $60.
phil labonte
No, it's not $630.
ian crossland
The $6.70 means it's strong.
tate brown
Or $6.
unidentified
Dude, I'm going to say that.
ian crossland
But hang on, $6.70, and then $6.70.
tim pool
$6.8 trillion.
tate brown
Yeah, it was $6.7 trillion.
phil labonte
I got to believe it was almost there.
tim pool
We are going to give every individual, including babies in Greenland, $1 million to join the United States.
There's $56,000.
It'll cost us $56 billion to give them a million bucks each.
unidentified
It reminds me of that video of Donald Trump buying those kids on the SNL skit.
tim pool
He's like, I'll buy your kids.
We'll buy Greenland and your kids, they're going to be ours.
phil labonte
If the U.S. does that, you know, the calls for reparations are going to be going through the roof.
tim pool
People be PO.
I'm in favor of, you know, I can't remember what the do we had on the show, but I was like, hey, I got an idea.
We got all this land owned by the federal government, by the Bureau of Land Management.
How about we divvy that up amongst the black population, descendant of slaves, and give you your mule?
And he was like, he was a social justice guy, and he goes, okay.
And then I was like, hey, look, my attitude is the federal government shouldn't have it.
The people have it, and I don't care how the people get it.
So if the argument is y'all want reparations, 40 acres and a mule, let's take it from the federal government because it's all this territory in the Rockies that's being held by the government that we can't have access to.
phil labonte
40 acres in a Dodge Charger.
tate brown
Let's think multi-outside the box.
Let's go to Liberia 2.0.
We move Greenland.
We make it like the black ethnostate.
It'd be a great thing, I think.
phil labonte
We're not going to be able to do it.
tate brown
We install Flava Flav as prime.
Actually, it'll be great.
unidentified
That'd be fantastic.
tim pool
Wakanda is in Illinois, I think, right?
unidentified
It's like south of Chicago, I believe, right?
tim pool
I don't think it's south.
tate brown
We rename Nook to Wakanda.
It'll be great.
BET constitutes it.
tim pool
It's going to be great.
It's going to be north.
It's north, I think.
tate brown
Oh, Wakanda.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
We used to go to Wakanda all the time.
tate brown
I know that.
tim pool
It's funny when people are like, ha ha, Wakanda.
I'm like, yeah, it's northern.
It's near McHenry.
tate brown
Oh, my buddy's from New York.
tim pool
Kanye West will be the Black Panther.
Yeah.
People don't realize, but we're not joking.
Wakanda is a suburb in Northwest Chicago.
unidentified
No way, dude.
Yeah, Wakanda.
phil labonte
Well, now we'll help them get their vibranium.
ian crossland
Yeah, Vibranium's there, 100%.
unidentified
It's very small.
tim pool
It's deep underground.
Anyway, I'm just saying Greenland is ours.
ian crossland
The issue with Denmark, just this little dinky country that controls this huge piece of land, like, why do they have that from 200 years ago?
Well, the British own Australia.
Should they also lose Australia?
tim pool
Well, they just lost.
ian crossland
The British own Canada.
So should they also lose Canada?
Like, Charles is the king of Canada.
Should he lose Canada too?
tim pool
You know what I love about this?
ian crossland
Can we take Canada?
tim pool
Technically, you know what I love about the Commonwealth is that it is, when you look it up, the people who live in Commonwealth countries are delusional.
And Ian brought this up a long time ago, and you're correct that King Charles is the king of Canada, and he does have the authority to dissolve Parliament, just like he does in the UK.
However, although it's written down he can, whenever you ask someone from there, they go, he can't.
And I'm like, now the question is, why do you think he can't?
Because he can't.
But it's written down that he can.
The king of England is also the king of Australia and Canada and New Zealand, all these Commonwealth countries.
And it's written down, he can.
And you just say no, but he can't.
phil labonte
I don't care who the king is.
Canada is the United States property.
Like, whether they like it or not, they don't even have an army.
Like, they have like 30 airplanes or something like that.
They're not a real country.
tate brown
The monarchy is so cucked because it's like, if Canada, if he's like, I'm dissolving Parliament in Canada, like whatever, the Canadian Parliament go, no.
Wait, how can he enforce that?
There's no way.
tim pool
I just figured it out.
Let me figure it out.
So on this channel, I think we have like 2.6-something million subscribers.
And I got the Timcast News channel is like 1.9, almost 2.
The original Timcast channel is about 1.5.
I got 2.5 million on X.
So if you add it all together with Facebook and Instagram, you know, we did the math.
It's around 10 million.
Can we get out of 10 million people, go fund me, 60,000 people to move to Greenland and then vote to join the United States?
ian crossland
Squatter's rise.
unidentified
We can.
phil labonte
I mean, I don't see that.
tate brown
You just send all the homeless from California there.
It's like, guys, just hang out here when it's time to vote.
Get clean long enough so you can make it to the polling.
tim pool
We'll give you a little bit of crack money.
You'll be fine.
tate brown
That'd be great.
ian crossland
I know the segment isn't about Canada, but we got to reform the conversation about Canada to make them want to join the U.S. instead of being a British puppet.
phil labonte
We do not want to do that.
tim pool
The way you make them want to join is by subjugating them and telling them to say it.
And it doesn't matter what they feel.
It matters that they just say it.
ian crossland
Ah, I don't want, I don't think so.
We've tried that the last two years.
They got scared and then they were like, China, save us.
But, dude, you don't want to be a British puppet.
unidentified
What?
ian crossland
You don't want a king?
phil labonte
Well, they're going to be free people.
It's better to be a Chinese puppet?
ian crossland
But it'd be an American protest.
tim pool
It's literally the UK and in Canada.
Well, in Canada, they call it something else because they have a king.
unidentified
Well, I think it was like no dictators or something.
tim pool
It was something they changed.
Like, there's like no empire.
tate brown
Well, because the reason Canada has a monarchy is not because they feel like this distinct connection to their Anglo-history and they want to maintain that connection.
It's because America Canadians are like the most insecure people on planet Earth because their society is pretty much identical to the United States in every way.
If you look around the world, there's not two countries more culturally similar than the United States and Canada.
unidentified
Well, it's changing now.
tate brown
Well, it's changing.
Obviously, it's becoming very Indian.
But to that point, is like because of that insecurity, they have to latch on to whatever does make them distinct from the United States.
So the only reason they have the monarchy is purely out of spite.
Like, that's the reason why Canada's monarchy, like pro-monarchy people, are typically left-wing, and then the anti-the pro-Republic people are typically right-wing.
That's not the case anywhere else on earth.
But in Canada, they suddenly turn and he's a trad with our Anglo-History and blood.
And it's like, they just hate America, and that's so gay.
We should take them for that.
tim pool
Let's jump to this next story.
Nick Shirley ended Tim Waltz.
That's what we're hearing.
Governor Tim Waltz has dropped out of the 2026 Minnesota governor's race amid the chrism over handling of fraud.
CBS News Reporting on his opportunity in the new year to give a shout out to Barry Weiss for doing a tremendous job over at CBS.
Because check this out: here I am looking at CBS mainstream media news reporting overtly that fraud is a very real thing in their state.
In the article about the ongoing Somali daycare fraud, they point out there's been arrests.
You get all these news outlets like CNN.
CNN ran an article saying the Somali, the Somali daycares operating in Minnesota are operating legally, according to Minnesota investigators.
And then CBS is like, since 2021, there's been 96 indictments over people for fraud in these daycare centers.
Why does the media lie so much?
They are, you know, we could only make assumptions, but we know they do.
Barry Weiss came into CBS and she's reforming it.
There was that documentary on CCOT that she was like, nah, you're not publishing that.
And then the journalists came out and lied and said that she was, you know, like basically glazed in the Trump administration.
When the reality was they made a fake activist documentary that omitted statements from CCOT and the government, and all they did was collect old statements and rehashed them.
Anyway, CBS is doing a better job now.
Tim Waltz has dropped out.
And it is clear that the Somali fraud story that got something like 160 million views from Nick Shirley's documentary is the pressure as to why.
My opinion, the Democrats are in on the take.
The reason why these liberals are running full speed to defend the Somali daycare fraud is because they know that they're benefiting from it.
It is the micro-level USAID scam.
The state gives money to daycares, and the daycares give money to politicians to run for office.
And now it's under threat and it's going to be gutted.
And so the liberals and their fake media are claiming it's all fake, nothing to see here.
But guess what?
Tim Waltz is gone.
unidentified
And even if they are operating legally, they're like babysitting their own children and other people's children that are from Somalia.
So they come here and make a daycare for the Somalian community that just came here from Somali.
I have a problem with that.
tate brown
Yeah.
tim pool
Like, what are you talking about?
unidentified
All the kids have hijabs on and everything.
tim pool
It's like, that's not a real American.
The thing that Nick Shirley pointed out is, I'm going to say this.
We don't know that every business he highlighted was committing fraud, but it is interesting, I will call it a preponderance of evidence that you have a building with like 15 medical centers with no customers.
And when he went and asked for prices, they couldn't give him any.
That is evidence of fraud.
I'm not saying it's proof.
I'm saying when you got a building full of all of the same business and no customers coming or going, I got questions.
tate brown
Yeah.
unidentified
And then one of them got broken into and all their documents are gone.
So wow, that's crazy.
tate brown
Also, you had these libs, and they were like, it's because it was Christmas.
So, of course, all the kids were there.
unidentified
They're all monsters.
tate brown
I'm like, they're Muslims.
unidentified
What do you tell her literally?
What are we doing?
tim pool
He's there on the 16th.
What do they celebrate in Islam?
tate brown
They got like Ramadan.
tim pool
Is that during that?
unidentified
That's not during.
tate brown
It's not the same.
They don't have like a competing holiday.
The Jews released Hanukkah as a competition because they needed more members.
unidentified
It's always Israel.
It's a little man, right?
tate brown
Yeah, but Muslims haven't come up with a cool holiday.
You even have Kwanzaa.
So I think the Muslims are developing maybe a Christmas competitor.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
Because the market's expanding.
There's a lot of them coming here.
So they really need to go.
tim pool
They don't celebrate Christmas or yeah.
tate brown
Yeah, because all these other religions, like, we got to compete with Christmas.
Everyone loves Christmas.
We got to go with that.
unidentified
If they do come out with their own holiday, what they can do is strap bombs to the people and then shoot them in the sky and those are the fireworks, right?
tate brown
So true.
tim pool
Something they would enjoy doing.
tate brown
Yeah, but yeah, to Tim's point, also, like, probably some internal members came through.
He's down in the polling.
That'd be really embarrassing.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
Obviously.
He definitely.
tate brown
Because it's this weird situation Democrats are in where they actually have to be held accountable to some degree.
Like the voters actually see stuff like this happening because this is not the first time anything like this has happened.
This has been happening a lot over the last 10, 20, 30 years.
phil labonte
Yeah, and you're seeing it all over the country, too.
Now there are other people that have gone and done investigations.
And it seems like Elon Musk might have actually been right about the magnitude of fraud going on in the United States.
He was talking about a trillion dollars.
tim pool
They apparently do.
I just looked up Islamic holidays, and there's Laylat al-Raghab, December 22nd.
It's a holiday.
The Night of Wishes.
It's an event celebrated by the majority of Muslims at the Islamic world, December 22nd.
ian crossland
It's a cool name.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
The Night of Wishes.
phil labonte
I don't want to celebrate that.
tate brown
I see.
phil labonte
I celebrate Christmas.
unidentified
Nick.
ian crossland
Shout out to Nick Shirley for doing the doc, but I wanted to give Nick some unsolicited advice.
I saw you post it on Twitter.
I ended Tim Waltz.
That's ego.
You're just a piece of a puzzle that's moving us towards transparency, which you're an amazing piece.
But he inevitably would have stepped down if this stuff came to light.
You did push the envelope, but don't feel like you're the one.
You know, we're part of like, if you believe in God, we're kind of cheating.
tim pool
Yeah, well, I'll say a few things.
My first was, it is true, but tone it down a little bit.
You know what I mean?
Like tweeting in all caps, I ended Tim Waltz is like, well, you're right.
And I'll give you credit for that because it is true.
But be a little bit more self-conscious.
ian crossland
Yeah, it's magnanimous.
tim pool
He's hype right now.
unidentified
He's a year younger than me.
I've been to, I had his back in Chicago.
We were at a protest in Chicago.
We had each other's backs going around there.
tim pool
He's a good kid.
I mean, he doesn't.
tate brown
I'm sorry.
tim pool
If you scalp.
tate brown
If you scalp a governor, you can self-glaze.
You know what?
Someone's got to hype yourself up.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Like that we stand on the shoulders of giants is an important thing to remember.
And like, we couldn't do any of what we did if the people before us didn't kind of bring us up to where we started.
tim pool
I take it back.
Tweet it again.
Gen Z needs to see this.
I was saying this about Nick Shirley before when the video went viral.
Like, Gen Z needs to know that success is the American dream is real.
So true.
Nick Shirley, 23 years old, took a camera, went around and filmed this thing and got 150-some odd million views.
The president's talking about him.
A governor just resigned from his race because of what Nick did.
Nick, say it more.
I want every young Gen Z guy to see Nick Shirley saying that.
And I want y'all Gen Z guys to ask yourselves why you're not doing this.
ian crossland
This is a form of pride.
And you know, pride in the right time and place is great in Catholicism.
It's a sin, but in America, it's like a national virtue.
So you do want to be like, hey, everyone, I did this good thing now.
tate brown
Look.
ian crossland
But just don't get obsessed with it.
tate brown
We just have mobs of Zoomers filming daycares.
ian crossland
Bro, everyone's interested.
tim pool
That's literally how.
ian crossland
Are you kidding?
tim pool
Well, can't you?
Have you seen it?
tate brown
This is a daycare.
You gotta know.
tim pool
Tate, have you seen there's like 70 videos of Gen Z men and women going to daycares and filming them?
tate brown
Just filming Genesis.
unidentified
There's one.
tim pool
There's one.
unidentified
No, no, no.
tim pool
They're going to these daycares with no kids in it.
tate brown
No, I agree.
I know.
tim pool
All these videos are going to go viral.
They're going to Ohio.
They're going to Washington.
Bro, they're finding a lot of this fraud all over the place.
I got to be honest.
I do think it's fair to say to a great degree, this country is the fraudsters in politics, which include Democrats and Republicans, and the hardworking rubes.
There's a guy right now listening to this show.
I see you, Bill.
You just got home from work.
You put on IRL.
You put in your full day's work.
And you're wondering what you got to do to be able to feed your kids as the inflation is getting worse.
You're the rube.
We're the rube.
You're doing the hard work and paying the taxes, and the scammers are defrauding everybody and taking our money for these schemes.
ian crossland
Did you see the people talking about not paying taxes this year?
It was like a big movement.
They're like, this is the national don't pay taxes movement.
tim pool
And it's like, yeah, but that's every year.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
I'm not kidding.
No, I'm not kidding.
Every year there's a group saying tax shit.
tate brown
It's like Storm Area 51.
It's like everyone says it and signs up and no one actually does it.
tim pool
Yeah, I can't even automatically deduct it for most people.
tate brown
Literally.
tim pool
What are you going to do?
You're going to be like, give me a second.
tate brown
I'm quitting my job.
ian crossland
But I think it's stemming from the frustration of being like, bro, I've been bankrupting myself, paying you a third of my income, and now you're just letting billions go like 20% of it.
unidentified
What the fuck?
ian crossland
Like, are you, you want me to participate in this when you're doing this to me?
unidentified
I get it.
ian crossland
I see where it's coming from.
But at the same time, if we stop funding the system, everything will fall apart.
So we really shouldn't do that.
tate brown
I just love the idea of just a dude outside of a daycare, like a pack digger he's filming.
And they're like, sir, sir.
And he's like, I'm getting rid of the governor.
ian crossland
Oh, also, I want to shout out Nick Shirley, who's like James O'Keefe level status right now.
I love you.
I love you, Nick.
unidentified
So thanks for one of the daycares.
It was super funny.
The girl opens up the door and she has black eyed and like she has been beaten up wearing hijab.
And she's like, oh, no, no daycare.
I don't know what you're talking about.
Like, they can't even speak English.
tim pool
That was like a Latina accent, though, that you just did.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
I don't know what you're talking about.
I don't think they talk like that.
unidentified
No, they talk a little more like Muhammad Muhammad Jihad.
tate brown
Yeah, Samal X, actually.
tim pool
Actually, it would be the greatest thing ever if like someone went to one of these Somali daycares and the lady came out, clearly like a Somali woman in hijab.
And she's like, what can I do for you?
Ain't nothing going on here.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
They're like, you know, I'd be like, okay, she can stay.
unidentified
No, but with the Mexicans, it would be like a lawn care business that they're defrauding.
tate brown
Well, but there's no mowers in here.
tim pool
I'll tell you guys what's the scariest thing about all of this is the daycare stuff is just a tip of the iceberg.
Yeah.
The daycare story has been around for a decade.
We've known about the fraud.
CBS, like I mentioned, already reported that there were like 96 indictments four or five years ago.
So the question, so what Nick did was, you know, you know what I love about this?
And I don't want people to take this as like a negative towards Nick, but there was a story we all knew about and no one just went and filmed it.
Like the story's been around for years and Nick was like, I'm going to go film it.
And it's kind of like you sit there and go, how come nobody did that?
unidentified
It's true.
phil labonte
You can just do things.
tim pool
You can just, and that's what the message I want Gen Z to understand is you might be looking at a story right now and everyone's like, oh, we all know about the fraud.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
And then Nick decided, well, why don't I go and film it?
No one did.
There is opportunity for Gen Z guys, for Gen Z ladies.
You can just do these things.
And you know, people have asked me, like, how do you do news reporting?
Like, I should travel around and do all this stuff.
And I'm like, you just go.
You literally just buy a plane ticket and go and be there and witness it and film it.
And then people will ask you what you saw.
You can do that.
ian crossland
I went to Occupy Wall Street.
I was just like, I'm just going to go.
I just got in my car and drove there.
It was one of the best decisions I've ever made in my life.
So if something is going, go.
If you feel it, that poll, even a little, go, go.
tate brown
So true.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
Let's jump to this story we got from the New York Post.
Zorhan Mamdani's new NYC tenant advocate called to seize private property and blasted home ownership as white supremacy.
Yeah.
There's a video going viral, and it's very obvious what Zoran was going to do and what he wants to do.
This woman thinks you shouldn't be allowed to own property.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
She thinks you're a white supremacist for owning property.
You know, part of me just desperately wants the people of New York to experience this.
But I also know that it won't stop there.
So, yeah, we can't let it happen.
I will also add the funniest thing about Zoran Mandani getting, you know, maybe becoming mayor.
They just raised the fares on buses.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Three bikes.
tim pool
Right when he got, it went up 10 cents.
So like right when he gets in, they increase the bus fares.
Now everyone's saying, I see these viral tweets of like Zoran just raised a bus fair.
No, he didn't.
The bus fare plan was passed a long time ago.
The increase in the cost was going to happen whether he got elected or not.
But it is still funny that free bus Mamdani gets in and then prices.
tate brown
He's like, free, I have a lisp.
I meant three.
It's an Arabic.
And Uganda, that's how we say three.
tim pool
Well, he's like, I'm from Brooklyn.
You misheard me.
I didn't say free.
I said free.
unidentified
You know what I'm saying?
tim pool
Free.
tate brown
So true.
I don't know.
Like with Zoron, I think one thing that's going to happen, this is going to be a very unpopular take.
And I'm saying this as an exiled New Yorker, very right-wing.
So I have a skin of the game, so to speak.
I think primarily what's going to be happening throughout the Zoron era is he's going to be rage baiting conservatives like as much as he possibly can.
And I think the most consequential result of Zoron's New York City, so to speak, is just more vape shops open.
And the city just, the city just slowly gets worse.
I think he is actually kind of part of the manager's decline.
My case for this is because New York City is actually driven by the city council.
So you saw like Zoron rolled back all the Eric Adams executive orders.
That's all he can really do from the mayor's office.
Like most of this is going to be him rage baiting, him agitating because he knows that if he can sort of become like a boogeyman for the right, so to speak, which it wouldn't really be a boogeyman because he is a legitimate threat, that legitimizes him.
That legitimizes him in the Democratic Party.
And that is really what the attempt is because what Zoron's trying to do is he's trying to clear that pathway for Democratic socialists in 28 and 32.
ian crossland
Look at the flags that are running through him.
tate brown
So like, yeah, I'm not even as concerned about what Zoron's going to do in New York City.
Like I said, I think he's primarily should be a rage baiter because what he's trying to do is catch all the flack from the right wing so that way he can legitimize his ideology within the Democrat Party.
So then someone could become a governor.
Someone could even become president with the same ideology as him because he swept the mind, so to speak.
phil labonte
What would you say to the idea that the left is actually moving to confiscate property?
Because it's not just Mamdani's talk about people that own homes.
There's the billion dollar or the billionaire tax that they're trying to do in California.
And that essentially will say, look, your property is no longer your own.
They're going to go ahead and start saying, look, if you own things, we're going to go ahead and do an audit and set a value.
And so there's like, I think it's like, there's $8 trillion or something like that that you can get out of the billionaires in the United States.
But if you look at the middle class, it's something like $100 trillion worth of value you can get or something like that.
It's something, some astronomical number.
So this is really just a cover to get the policy started and then to go after the middle class.
So the idea that it's going to take from the billionaires, that's just how it starts.
And you can look at the income tax as evidence of that.
It started at just the top 1% or it was just the top earners and it was 1%.
Now everybody pays 35, 40% of their income.
tate brown
What Zoron's doing here is he's trying to turn himself into a martyr so he can become a rock star within the Democrat Party.
So then a city councilman in Jacksonville that's a Democrat can now advocate for those policies because that's like Zoron's policies.
That's what's actually going on here.
So the threat isn't even really to New York City.
Like I said, I think the most consequential result of New York City, you know, in the Zoron era, so to speak, will just be Nick Galleger.
I think what's going to happen is he is turning himself into a martyr into this rock star so he can continue to drag the Democrat Party to the left.
phil labonte
I think you're right that he's looking to drag the Democrat Party to the left, but I don't think that it's an unpopular position in the Democrat Party overall because someone like Rokana was talking about the billionaire tax in California.
tate brown
Well, he's just legitimizing it.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tate brown
And the way to do that isn't by scoring electoral victories.
The way to do that is to rage bait the right to then be viewed as this rock star, to be viewed as this martyr.
People on the right do that.
People on the left do that.
If you can draw the ire of the other party, then what's going to happen is people on the left are going to say, wow, they perceive this guy as a threat.
While they perceive this guy as a viable threat to what they're trying to do, we should emulate him.
phil labonte
But the point that I'm making is I don't, I'm not disputing your point.
I think that it, but I do think that it's more broad than just Mondani.
I think the Democrat Party is going to continue to push policies like this.
I think they're going to say, look, it's time for us to expropriate from the billionaire class.
You see people talking about it all the time.
You say people singing, oh, there shouldn't be billionaires.
We should take property from blah, blah, blah.
And if you start that with billionaires, it's only, it'll be a decade before they're doing that for sure.
tim pool
Let me take y'all boys back in time and talk about poker.
So there's a lot of laws at the states that say you can't play poker with more than $10.
Now, when I talk to regular people about that, they're like, yeah, it's a fake law that was passed to basically say you can't play poker.
No, You're wrong.
When the law was passed, $10 was a lot of money.
So they were basically saying, guys, fine, you can play poker, but so long as you're not playing with a million dollars, you can play with $10,000.
And for most people, that's more than you'd need.
Inflation happens, and now $10 certainly doesn't mean anything.
The point is, what's going to happen with New York is they are going to say, the millionaires and the billionaires.
Guess what?
You bought a house 10 years later, it's worth a million dollars.
You're a millionaire now, and we're going to take your property because you're a millionaire.
And you're like, wait, wait, wait, hold on.
I bought this property and it was like 300K and I was paying my mortgage off and inflation happened and the prices skyrocketed and now I own a million dollar home and they're going to say, and you are being forced to sell it and we're going to take it from you.
So the problem is, you know it's funny I was watching I think it was like Seinfeld or something and it's an old, like an early 90s economy and someone goes like he makes six figures and they go six figures.
Yeah, I remember when I was a kid, someone making six figures was like yeah yeah, because upper middle in 1992, like a hundred thousand would be the equivalent of like 300k today or something like that.
phil labonte
You could buy a Lamborghini or a Ferrari for a hundred grand in like the early 90s.
Now they're like half a million.
tim pool
Let's let me, let me, let me list up 100k in 1992 to today, because I think it's like double right, it's more than that, more than that.
Uh, 100 000 in 1992 is 231 000 today.
So if you know somebody who makes a hundred k, you might be like that's a good salary.
If you know someone's making 230, you're going like man, you got extra money.
That's what it was like back in the day.
So what's going to happen with all of this socialist economy policy bs?
Is that inflation, bro guys?
Silver is at like 75 bucks.
Yep, holy crap, let me.
Let me pull this up.
Gold's 4300, oh my Guys, it's the apocalypse.
I'm not playing any games.
I am meaningless.
Silver at $76.77 terrifies me.
And it peaked at $77 and 0.02.
That's terrifying.
Gold has sat around 20 bucks forever for decades.
And it's rapidly skyrocketing.
Now, don't get me wrong.
AI, computer, like AI machines, self-driving cars, silver is in high demand, and people have been buying it.
I'll just say this.
We ran promos for silver.
I'm not telling you what to do, but the people who bought it are certainly very happy.
But my con oh my, it just jumped even higher.
My concern with silver going up is just it's the economy going down.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
Buying power getting worse.
ian crossland
And then what they could do with my concern, what they might be doing is prepping for a market crash where they're going to put 80% of their resources into gold and silver.
They're going to double the value and then they're going to crash the economy in half and maintain their wealth while everyone else loses 50%.
No, no, no, no.
tim pool
Whoever's instilling the markets, they're going to sell all of their silver at the peak.
ian crossland
Oh, yeah, and then crash it.
tim pool
Crash the market and then buy it all back.
ian crossland
And it's basically the guys that collude to own the majority or a silent majority of the market, like BlackRock.
I don't know who.
I don't know who.
I just imagine, I mean, you know, people are involved with deciding when the market's going to crash and when it's going to boom and have it.
tim pool
If it's $77 right now, it just spiked.
ian crossland
It's the only time in my life I've ever seen gold and silver like almost triple in value in a year or double.
phil labonte
I mean, part of that is because of the, or a lot of it is like Tim was saying it's because of the inflation.
When I moved down to West Virginia, I first started doing the show.
I was buying an ounce of silver for like $2,200, $2,100.
You know, I mean, I'm sorry, an ounce of gold, my bad.
tim pool
Like, we did these promos.
I had that stack of silver coins, and I think I bought it for a couple, what was it, $400?
And now it's worth like $1,500.
That's scary.
ian crossland
And it's the type of thing where it's like, I want to be rich, but at what cost?
I don't want to hyperinflate the economy now.
All of a sudden, I'm a rich guy.
phil labonte
Well, you're not getting rich.
ian crossland
That's the point.
tim pool
The question is, what does being rich mean?
ian crossland
Yeah, exactly.
Less about the value of money.
I want to increase the value of money across the board so we can all kind of thrive.
tim pool
I'm going to tell you guys.
Andrew Tate had a great point in his viral video where he said, if you know how much money you have, you're poor.
ian crossland
I like that.
tim pool
It's funny because it's true.
ian crossland
Yeah, if you're checking your bank account, that means you don't have enough.
tim pool
No.
ian crossland
Or you might think you don't have enough.
tim pool
That's not the point.
The point is that he has so many investments all over the place.
He doesn't know where they are or what they are.
He can't even check his bank account.
He's like, I invested 10 million in some company somewhere that I own equity and it's worth 10, 15 million, maybe more.
I bought a bunch of properties.
It's managed by somebody else.
I don't even know what's in it.
Like, the point is, if you can open your bank account and look at the number, he says that's poor.
Because rich people don't even know where their money's at.
ian crossland
Yeah, at least have five bank accounts.
tim pool
It's not about bank accounts Ian.
ian crossland
I know.
tim pool
It's about like.
ian crossland
I think Andrew Tate, that's pilot error on his part.
He should know how much money he's got.
tim pool
You are.
You're making it.
phil labonte
Maybe you're the point.
ian crossland
Whose money is it?
If he doesn't know where it is, he might as well not have it, you know?
tim pool
If Andrew Tate hires a wealth manager and says, here's $50 million, invest it.
At any given moment, he does not know how much money he has because the investments go up and down.
ian crossland
But the manager could rip him off and he wouldn't know.
tim pool
Probably not possible.
I don't think Charles Schwab is going to steal his money.
I don't think the investment firm is going to steal his money that way.
They could.
The point is, if he wants to find out how much money he has, he has to schedule a meeting, sit down, pull up the paperwork, go through the portfolio start, calculate.
ian crossland
It costs him time to find out how much it's expensive to find out how much money is.
tim pool
Rich people don't even know how much money they have.
The reason I bring this up is you're talking about wanting to be rich at what cost.
And the question is, what does rich mean?
Yeah, exactly.
At a certain threshold of having money, rich means I don't have to worry about the bills anymore.
But rich people don't worry about the bills or even worry about their bank accounts.
They're literally just like, I'm going to fly halfway on the road for fun.
And if the money, like, if you've got millions of dollars, just millions, $30,000 private jet, you're not going to notice that number going down.
Whether it goes up or down.
ian crossland
It's sort of like if I invest heavily in a company and then the government prints a trillion dollars and pumps that company and I make a million bucks, I'm not happy about that because they're destroying my economy to make me rich.
That's not the kind of rich I want to be.
tim pool
My broader point is, being rich simply means you control people.
That's it.
phil labonte
Starting with yourself, you have the ability to say, but my point is like whatever I want.
tim pool
If you are as rich as Andrew Tate, what does that really mean?
He can have anything he wants.
He can, look at Elon Musk.
He's building starships to go to Mars.
That's rich.
Rich for Elon Musk, it means he can literally go to a person and be like, within a person's moral boundaries, of course, but he can say, do a thing and I'll give you money.
When you are truly wealthy, it means you have control over systems.
ian crossland
Yeah, and health.
People have mentioned that.
tim pool
You can buy buildings.
You can build spaceships.
You can send rockets to the moon if you are wealthy.
You can go to 50,000 people and say, I want all of you to start building rocket ships to the moon.
And they'll go, okay, that's what being rich means.
Because again, can Elon Musk eat the most delicious wagyu beef ever made?
Of course.
And that's like the dude's worth $700 billion.
How much money does he need to get the best wagyou steak money can buy?
A thousand bucks.
That's a rounding error for someone like Elon Musk.
So at a certain point, buying things you want is a meaningless term to a rich person.
Elon could buy like seven yachts.
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
I don't need them.
ian crossland
They say wealth is like a, or someone has said it, or at least I thought it, is that it's a combination of having money, having resources, and being healthy.
Like, if you're not healthy, it doesn't matter what your bank account says.
You can't go to the moon.
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah, well, wealth.
ian crossland
Wealth is a different than rich.
Like, rich means you have a lot of money.
Wealthy means that you can actually spend it.
tim pool
No.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Rich people don't spend money.
Like, again, you know, I actually think I appreciate this conversation, Ian, because you're exemplifying how the average person doesn't understand wealth.
ian crossland
Dude, no, wealth and rich are not the same thing.
That's what my point is, right?
tim pool
My point is you saying all of these things, you truly don't understand what it means to be wealthy.
ian crossland
Do you understand what it is to be happy?
I mean, I know what it means to be wealthy.
tim pool
You don't.
ian crossland
It's different than hell.
It means that people love you.
You have a family.
You have friends.
And you're fucking loaded.
That's wealth.
tim pool
So my point is a wealthy individual doesn't think about money at all.
They don't go to a restaurant and say, how much does it cost?
You want to know if you're at a high-end restaurant, there's no prices on the menu.
And so you go to the, you know, I can't say the steakhouses that pretend to be fancy.
They have dress codes.
That's not a real, that's not it.
You go to a steakhouse and they hand you a menu that you can wear whatever you want as long as you don't smell bad.
They hand you a menu with no prices on it.
That's how you know where rich people eat.
I went to a restaurant that looked like an old mansion, and the room they served us in was a study.
It's the weirdest thing.
And the menus didn't have prices on them because rich people don't care.
They don't even think.
You could tell them the steak's $1,000 and they'd be like, I didn't ask.
ian crossland
Dude, it would take more energy to calculate the cost than it's worth.
Like it would wear you out to the point where I can't make that extra $700,000 later because I'm tired from thinking about the price.
I don't even think about it.
tim pool
So that's like someone like Elon Musk, when he goes to buy equipment, I doubt.
You know, obviously somebody's building a spaceship.
He's like, what's the total cost of building a ship?
They're going to be like, oh, it's going to be like $33 million.
That's a number he's going to look at.
If he needs to buy a laptop, he doesn't ask him how much.
He doesn't make a budget.
He literally just says, give me the best of everything.
And the amount of money it costs him, he doesn't even notice.
ian crossland
I think that wealth also you start to think in terms of percentages instead of dollar values.
Like what percentage of my wealth can I spend to gain how much more percentage growth?
tim pool
Yes, but also understand this.
Rich people don't spend money.
My point is, if Elon Musk buys a mansion, he's losing nothing.
If you rent, you're losing money.
Working class people and people of modest means, not even poor people, spend money and it's gone.
Rich people spend money and they keep it and get more for it.
If Elon Musk says, I'm going to buy the biggest mansion in Hollywood, he keeps every penny he spent.
And then a year later, the values increased and he only made more money by buying something.
There is a level at which you buy things and you get more for it.
Whereas for poor people, you buy a car, the value goes down.
You lost money.
You buy a cheeseburger, the money's gone forever.
You pay your rent, the money's gone forever.
You buy a house, you're paying fees to a bank, it's gone forever.
Rich people never spend.
They're only investing.
ian crossland
I tweeted out earlier.
I'm less concerned with making money and more concerned with increasing the value of money because it's very, like, this goes back to now you're a millionaire because of inflation.
Now you're going to be taxed like that.
phil labonte
What is it that you're doing to increase the value of money?
ian crossland
Like reduce the costs across the globe.
Reduce the cost of roads.
Reduce the stress on roads by making them last longer or reduce the cost of money.
Understanding.
tim pool
The value of things is predicated upon the willingness of another individual to provide service, labor, or resources.
The problem with the liberal argument of raising the minimum wage is that you're still in the same position of, Ian, ask me to sweep the floors.
ian crossland
Please sweep the floors, Tim.
unidentified
Can you?
tim pool
No.
You have to pay me more money than is imaginable because I don't have time for that.
I'm busy.
So if you want Tim Poole to come in and sweep your floors, there's a number.
To be honest, for someone like me, there probably isn't because I'm wealthy and successful.
ian crossland
What if the floor is filthy?
tim pool
I will sweep the floor if my floor is dirty and I want it swept.
My point is, when you increase the minimum wage, nothing has changed.
ian crossland
Money represents the term millionaire and billionaire is almost like a red herring.
Like we probably should cease.
tim pool
What I'm saying is the better question to ask on minimum wage stuff is, excuse me, sir, random guy.
I need you to clean the floors of my building and I will pay you.
When he says, how much will you pay me?
He's not actually concerned about the number of dollars.
The underlying principle is, what can I get for my labor?
So when the Democrats are like, increase the minimum wage, nothing will change.
Now, an individual might say, that sounds great because if I had $15 instead of $10, I could buy an extra cheeseburger.
The problem, the man who makes the cheeseburger still wants the same amount of time and energy for his work.
The dollar value is meaningless.
So when we talk about having money and spending it and making money more valuable, when you mention we should cut costs and make money more valuable, if you do that across the board, it's meaningless.
The amount of labor an individual requires of you will stay the same.
ian crossland
Except on the international scale, it makes the U.S. dollar more competitive globally.
tim pool
If the U.S., if the U.S. economy improves or foreign economies tank, then yeah, we can convince people to work for cheap.
That's always it, right?
So we go to countries that are poor and say, we'll pay you dirt to do it because it's the best you're going to get.
So yeah.
The issue of wealth and the main point of this conversation, especially with like the silver stuff, and we got off on a tangent because the silver is freaky, is rich people, what does it mean to be wealthy?
It means you have control of other people.
That's it.
It means you want a building, you want a giant warehouse with a skate park in it.
Can you convince someone to do that work?
What do you have to do to tell a guy something so that he will start building something for you?
ian crossland
Yeah, because money alone can't get it done.
If they hate you, they'll seize your bank account.
tim pool
It's not just that.
If you are, there was some TV show.
What was that movie where the football guy knocks the guy over and kills the sick kid?
You didn't see this one?
unidentified
No, I don't know.
tim pool
There's a football player.
I think he's a football player and he's like a dick.
And a guy is like, my kid's a big Phineas Cancer.
And then the guy tells him to F off, shoves him, he falls.
And then they're like, you're off the team.
He was a big shot.
Thought he was all rich, but everyone hates him.
I can't remember.
I don't know.
The chat probably knows.
The point is, if everyone hates you, no amount of money is going to help you.
You're going to be like, I'll pay you $1,000 to build a chicken coop.
And they're going, no, screw you.
And you'll be like, $2,000?
No, I said, screw you.
If they don't let you into their business, you can't buy the coffee from them.
Money doesn't matter.
The point is, Elon Musk has so much money, he can literally just, I mean, bro, the dude can get some of the most.
I got to be honest.
Phil, is there a number by which Elon Musk could pay you to put on a tutu and do like a ballerina dance in the middle of Times Square for a week?
tate brown
You guys are getting paid?
phil labonte
It's a big number.
It's a big number.
tim pool
What if he was like, I'll give you a billion dollars?
phil labonte
A billion dollars?
tim pool
A billion dollars?
Probably, yeah.
My point is, not that it's an easy thing to do because they'd be like, what market value is in this?
My point is, Elon can get a lot of people to do a lot of things.
You know what I mean?
Like, oh, yeah.
Yeah.
That's wealth.
Wealth is Elon being like, I want Tim Poole to clean the floors of my bathroom.
And I'm going to be like, well, I don't need to because I'm already rich.
Do you have a billion dollars?
I'd be like, I got to be honest.
Elon, for a billion bucks.
phil labonte
Take an hour.
tim pool
I'll use a toothbrush.
There are certain things, obviously, money can't buy.
Cleaning a bathroom is the easy thing that's considered degrading to a lot of people, but not amoral.
Like, I wouldn't do something illegal or evil.
But Elon could very easily make people do evil things because he has so much money.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
tate brown
Dude, if I had his money, I'd be like covering countries in peanut butter and stuff.
I'd be moving like crazy.
tim pool
I would drop Geoda in on India.
That'd be insane.
phil labonte
That's just cruel.
The point of this whole thing is once you have a certain amount of money, then your money is going to make money to the point where you could never spend what you've made.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
He's poor guys.
Like, there's no reality where Elon's ever poor.
phil labonte
No.
tim pool
Because, like, and I mean this.
Imagine the U.S. government says, we're going to seize all your assets.
China goes, we'll give you anything you want.
Because of his ability.
They're going to, like, any other rival nation will be like, anyone, they're going to compete for him.
They're going to be like, we want you to build rockets for us instead.
That's nothing to do about it.
tate brown
Elon could just buy three or four meals in an airport and he'd be bankrupt.
unidentified
Yeah, true.
tate brown
Dude, that's where you get suckered.
tim pool
$300 billion sandwiches at the airport.
tate brown
Getting close.
Buy a bottle of water.
tim pool
You go down to Nashville and you buy a beer, you're broke.
phil labonte
Yeah, it's over.
tim pool
I went to, I was at an airport once and I went to like one of those sandwiches, like one of those deli coolers where you can get drinks and sandwiches all pre-made.
And I grabbed a sandwich and I put it on the counter with like an unsweet tea.
And the lady looks at me and she goes, the clerk, like the employee, she goes, that's $10.
And I was like, okay.
And I pull out my card and she goes, no, that's $10.
And then I was like, okay.
She's like, I'm just letting you know.
I'm like, do you want me to get two?
Like, the employee herself was shocked and needed to let me know how terrifying it was.
The sandwich was $10.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Like, that's airport.
That's airport purchasing.
tate brown
It's ridiculous.
unidentified
It's like $20 for on an airplane.
It's like $20 for two shooters.
tate brown
Literally.
I'm like, but you ordered, like, did I just get robbed?
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
You feel like violated.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
All right, guys.
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And maybe you've got a niece or a nephew.
They're old enough.
Now, I'm not saying little kids.
They're not going to understand what's going on.
They're going to say, I'm saying you call, like, you got some young adults and you're like, you guys should be watching this program.
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We got Token MAGA.
He says, hey, Lance, how did those two loses losses to the Blackhawks feel?
Two losses?
Yeah.
unidentified
I'm confused.
Oh, okay, yeah.
I mean, we're a really, really good team.
We have the most competitive teams that are in our area.
So, yeah.
I've seen the Blackhawks lose to the Dallas Stars in person before, so I wouldn't be talking.
All right.
tate brown
I think I love about the NHL is like half of the teams are Canadian and they haven't won a Stanley Cup in like four years.
unidentified
Yeah, right?
We call them the Blackcocks down in Dallas.
Yeah.
Wow.
ian crossland
I love the Blackhawks in the 90s.
Jeremy Roenick fan.
I played a lot of NHL 93, NHL 94.
tim pool
You like the Blackhawks back in the 90s?
unidentified
You had a little weird pass.
ian crossland
Balfour.
unidentified
Oh, what's going on?
tate brown
I like the Blackhawks over Vietnam.
tim pool
All right.
We got R. Sargent.
It says, I'm super curious why lefties so often happen upon opportunities to do real damage and fall short almost every time.
I am very scared because the effective ones we see really ain't done-ish yet.
I mean, we had like a bunch of Christian school kids murdered by a trans person.
We had two attempts on Donald Trump.
Charlie Kirk is dead.
They've done a lot of damage.
I mean, you had the murder of Aaron Danielson.
Yeah, it's pretty scary.
The point is, you don't see the other way around.
Liberals aren't being shot and killed.
I don't want them to be.
unidentified
Good.
tim pool
The point is, it's liberals doing it.
That's the problem.
Or I shouldn't say liberals, but like left-aligned political people.
All right, let's see.
Pims the Great says, hey, Tim and Crew, been a fan since the Kavanaugh hearings and see every video.
In reference to your morning segment, when someone tries to introduce you to their wireless hole puncher, you reciprocate.
Indeed.
Now be wary about which state you are in.
But the point is, you are legally allowed in almost every jurisdiction to defend yourself if someone is shooting at you.
That I think is fairly obvious.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Acid Floyd says more dictators need to be delta for the meme industry alone.
It's been comedy gold.
I get more entertainment from three hours of Maduro memes than Marvel blockbuster movies.
unidentified
It's true.
michael richards
So true.
tim pool
You know, and I will add this.
Did you guys hear that Marvel, the Avengers Doomsday movie, is basically erasing the last six years of Marvel?
unidentified
Good.
tim pool
I'm done with all that crap.
tate brown
I'm disgusting.
tim pool
Well, the point is like they went woke right before Endgame with Captain Marvel.
That's when all the activists started tainting everything.
And so they get Captain Marvel in Endgame, and Endgame had that really cringe moment where Thanos headbutts Captain Marvel and she doesn't flinch, and the audience groaned in my theater.
From there, they've done a whole bunch of dejected, weird garbage that made no sense.
unidentified
Even in the other scene in Endgame, we're like Peter Parker, literally Spider-Man, gets saved by all the women, and they're like just walking in slope.
It's like, oh, are you shitting me?
Like, really?
Are we doing this right now?
tim pool
So what happened is apparently Marvel is the new Avengers movie next year or end of this year is a sequel to Endgame.
Yeah, they're basically largely ignoring all of the stuff they've done.
And the reason why is the last universally seen Marvel movie was Endgame.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So they realized.
unidentified
No Way Home 2.
tim pool
That was probably the last.
Maybe, yeah.
Most people aren't watching any of their stuff and they hate it all.
And it was weird, activist-y garbage.
So now they're basically like, let's go back in time and erase everything and start from scratch.
phil labonte
Let's see him do that better.
Give fucking the shield.
tate brown
The villains just wait for Captain Marvel to get pregnant and then they make their moves.
unidentified
Yeah, right?
That Muslim one, too.
What's her name?
She's like, I'm a Muslim and whatever.
tim pool
Oh, yeah, Miss Marvel.
Yeah, Miss Marvel.
There's a Marvel.
Miss Marvel.
Yeah, Miss Marvel.
It's ridiculous.
The problem is the actual Miss Marvel character, she can grow and shrink.
She's kind of like Mr. Fantastic.
And then in the Marvel show, they're like, it's kind of whack.
So she can just like project hard light.
unidentified
Yeah, it was weird.
tim pool
So she technically grows, but she just makes like stones or something.
phil labonte
This is Jubilee.
unidentified
It's ridiculous.
tim pool
No, Jubilee was way better than that.
She could split atoms.
phil labonte
Oh, that's what it was.
ian crossland
They didn't charge particles.
tim pool
No, Jubilee's power was she could cause atomic fission, and it manifested in explosions.
So she could shoot atomic explosions at you.
unidentified
That was cool.
ian crossland
She's kind of like Gambit, similar to Gambit.
Gambit could charge and explode.
tim pool
Yeah, Gambit's crazy.
ian crossland
He was my favorite in the night.
tim pool
Kinetically charged.
unidentified
She just uses cards as the conduit for it.
It's so slist.
tim pool
But they've done cool stuff with Gambit's powers in Marvel Comics.
ian crossland
Oh, he's so good.
tim pool
We'll see if they can get back on track.
That's for sure.
Let's grab some more of these rants.
WD Production says, welcome back.
Mist y'all.
Crazy start to the year.
Gonna get a shout out for Heroes Never Alone and my book on Amazon, Arm Wrestling Roulette.
Shout out.
Thanks for the Rumble Rant, brother.
ian crossland
I'm YouTube, man.
I'm just doing this.
tim pool
Jay Dirtbiker says, the biggest W is oil in our hemisphere will no longer be going to power the war machine of our adversaries.
This is America first good riddance.
Bro, the amount of people that are pro-America conservative who are like, you know what?
I've changed my mind.
We shouldn't be doing anything about Venezuela is kind of shocking.
ian crossland
Yeah, because if Trump had been like, we should not invade Venezuela, those same people very well could be like, yeah, we should not invade Venezuela.
I'm all in.
tim pool
They'd be like, bro, if Trump came out and said, no, we're not going to do anything about Maduro, all the Democrats would be like, oh, Trump is weak, letting Maduro run rampant.
Trump's only mistake with the Venezuela thing was when the planes were about to enter Venezuelan airspace, he should have tweeted out, Maduro needs to be left alone.
Venezuela is its own country.
And then all the Democrats would come out and be like, I can't believe he would let this happen.
And then an hour later, be like, oh, okay, we got him.
tate brown
Yeah.
tim pool
And then they'd be like, uh.
tate brown
They always accuse him of cozying up to like despots.
And then when he actually bombs one, then they have this like sudden problem with it.
unidentified
No kings.
tate brown
And then also, like, something else is this is like a direct economic hit to Russia and Iran because, and it's, it's, it's, it's indirect because when you drop oil prices, when you flood the global economy with Venezuelan oil, all it's going to do is drive the price of oil down.
What is Russia's primary export?
Oil.
What is Iran?
Oil.
So these two countries that are completely dependent on oil in many ways are now going to not be, they're going to have to play ball with whatever the global oil price is, and it's going to completely crush them.
tim pool
David Flora says Benny Johnson tweeted about not paying taxes.
Did he really?
ian crossland
A few people.
I think Sevan Hernandez did.
tate brown
Yeah, a lot of people are a lot of people aren't, and then there's going to be some people online that take these people at their word, and then they won't pay their taxes, and they're going to get arrested.
unidentified
See, I would love to pay my taxes if we start kidnapping more communists.
tate brown
Yeah, yeah.
unidentified
I'll be like, yeah, here's my money.
Go take out freaking Zorhan Mamdani next.
Go kidnap him.
No, I'm kidding.
tim pool
I'm kidding.
When was this trend on the tax expense?
Benny being a wealthy individual, I can't imagine him not paying taxes.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
Like, you're the first target.
ian crossland
I think it was like a week and a half ago or a week ago.
tate brown
What's the strategy?
It's like we finally got our guy into the presidential office.
Let's just starve on it.
ian crossland
Yeah, that's pretty dumb, actually.
tim pool
No, I understand the problems of all the fraud going on and the war and all the BS.
I don't mean the war.
I mean like war BS.
Our money is being taken and fraudulently given away to garbage.
But like, I don't think the solution is to go to prison.
You know what I mean?
tate brown
Yeah, literally.
Or just remove yourself from the table.
ian crossland
And it's not the solution to destroy the world either.
Like destroy the United States because you hate it so much by defunding it.
Like that's also not.
We're supposed to have redress of grievances, which we've sort of lost, which is unfortunate.
tim pool
We have courts and we go through the courts all the time.
ian crossland
Yeah, but as people, when your government is doing, you know, bowing to the corporations' whims instead of the people's whims, 95% plus percent of the time, I understand the frustration.
phil labonte
Every single case that the Supreme Court hears that they hear in favor of the, or decide in favor of the person, the civilian or whatever, like that's the people using the court system for redress of grievance.
tate brown
I just want to say to the audience, please pay your taxes.
If you're watching the show, you're a smart person.
We do not want you going to jail.
We need you in the fight.
Don't LARP.
LARPing gets people killed.
tim pool
The idea that every Trump supporter, not every, but they're all like this big movement among conservatives being like, we're not going to pay our taxes.
And then next year, it's like 17,833 conservatives arrested and put in prison.
tate brown
It was one of the commentators.
ian crossland
I think only a couple months ago was like, I think I want to get rid of income tax and we'll pay for it with the tariffs.
And so people are probably like kind of hoping that it's actually going to happen and he's given them some.
tim pool
What if Trump just came out like on April 14th and was like, no taxes by executive order.
Just if you already filed, you're getting your money back and refunds for everybody.
ian crossland
Just this year we'll rename 2025 to Trump.
unidentified
It's the Trump.
tim pool
I think Trump should.
I think in October, all the Republicans should come out and say, we're abolishing the income tax.
And Trump should come out and say, vote for Republicans and there will be no income tax.
Democrats will be like, they're lying.
And Republicans will be like, no, we're not.
And people are going to be like, I'm voting for them.
I got to be honest, they're probably lying, but here's your choice.
Vote Democrat, vote Republican.
Republicans are claiming they're going to get rid of taxes.
Are they going to?
Probably not.
But hey, I'll buy that lottery ticket, right?
Wouldn't you?
ian crossland
I don't want the regime that was in power in 2020 to get back into power.
I do not want them to undo.
Yeah, I would be down to see the Republican Party lie to people to get elected again at this point.
tim pool
My point is they shouldn't lie.
I'm saying I wouldn't trust them if they claimed they were going to get rid of income tax.
Like Trump has said this.
My point is, if it's a lottery tickets chance they would, I'll buy that lottery ticket.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
If there is a 0.00002% chance Republicans would actually get rid of it, and there's a 0% chance Democrats would, I'd vote Republicans.
ian crossland
I'm sort of almost desperate about, I think World War III is about to start.
I don't know why, but I'm feeling this like, oh, God, and people are smiling and dancing about taking Greenland and clipping.
If the Democrats were in power, we would lose the war.
And that's not just the Democrats, but someone like Joe Biden or Kamala.
No, no, no.
Trump and Pete Hegseth are at least warrior-minded, especially Hagseth.
So he terrifies the globe.
You need that force.
tim pool
Let's grab some super chats.
We got Wolf.
He says, hey, Tim, if you've been keeping up with Skybrows, the guy who did the Elon Musk and Joe Rogan song last few videos, they're fantastic.
I've listened to Cream of the Slop like 100 times.
We'll check it out in the uncensored portion of the show.
But for those that are not familiar, there's a song called Elon's Musk on YouTube by Skybrows.
It's amazing.
It's a Grok AI-made music video with like a Synthwave song, I guess.
And it's really good.
ian crossland
I like it a lot.
I've never heard of it.
tim pool
It's a long.
It's real good.
ian crossland
After about three minutes, three and a half for a while.
Yeah, I'm like, I've heard it after about three minutes because there's, I don't think there's three parts.
Are there three parts?
We've got to listen to it again and now.
tim pool
Bro, but the lyrics are just so good.
Yeah.
And then I'm in Joe's Rogane.
Yeah.
Like, there's an AI cameo from us at the Stimcast Studio.
And, yeah.
ian crossland
Oh, the song's called Joe's Rogan?
tim pool
Yeah.
Elon's Musk and Joe's Rogan.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Cream of the Slop.
I don't know what that is.
All right.
Jay's Index says, Tim, oh, Jason Dix says, Tim, while in Florida, make sure you adhere to the Florida law, the Waffle House Hurricane Code.
It's a thing.
If Waffle House closes down, you got to go.
phil labonte
Get out of town.
tim pool
Yeah.
Yeah, right.
So when they, I was here like 10 years ago.
Maybe it was about 10 years.
No, it was a little bit over 10 years ago.
When there was like a hurricane scare.
And I don't think the Waffle House is closed down.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
tim pool
And so I was like, I guess I'm going to be here for a hurricane.
And so I got a hotel and then the hurricane actually started to turn and went the other way.
unidentified
They knew.
ian crossland
So it's Waffle House causing a hurricane.
unidentified
Waffle House controls the weather.
tate brown
Yeah.
Like FEMA themselves uses the Waffle House index.
tim pool
Those tunnels in New York that they were building connect Waffle Houses together.
Oh, that's true.
unidentified
That's true.
It could be.
tim pool
That's right.
That mattress stain, someone spelled a Waffle House mix.
unidentified
That's true.
tate brown
Syrup.
ian crossland
A guy from Waffle House crap the bed.
tim pool
Remember that story?
They were like, why is the mattress stained and why was it underground?
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
Well, it's like every time you see a video of Hasidic Jews, they're always freaking out.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
tate brown
Like, I don't know what's going on, but like, every time I've seen a video, there's always just chaos.
Like, they're running around.
You ever see the videos of them running across the street during the marathon?
Yeah.
Like, they're just always freaking out.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
That was like, that was one of the best videos I've ever seen.
tim pool
Wait, what's this?
Unit Glue says Demon and Portal spotted at Amfest 2025 on the background screen.
It's on the eight-hour vid at three hours and 43 minutes and 40 seconds just before Brittany Aldean goes on stage.
You want to look that up?
Was it an eight-hour turning point video, Amfest video?
Which day is it?
Yeah, I don't know.
He didn't say.
tate brown
You imagine the graphics.
unidentified
I got to say which day.
tim pool
Look up Brittany Aldean.
unidentified
Yeah, look up Brittany.
tate brown
The graphics guys.
tim pool
I highly recommend it.
tate brown
By the way, we're going to do Demon Portal this year.
unidentified
That's insane.
tate brown
You get working on that for us.
It's like, isn't that a little on the nose?
It's like, yeah, but it's like an Easter egg.
It's going to be fun.
unidentified
Yeah, I used to work for Turning Point.
They did not.
tim pool
It's an actual Demon Portal.
tate brown
Yeah.
Believe it or not.
unidentified
There's no way.
tim pool
Did you find the Britney Aldean?
phil labonte
I'm looking.
I'm looking.
I'm going to get this.
tim pool
The eight hour.
See, buddy, you got to be more specific.
You got to tell us the name of the video so we can search for it.
Otherwise, concision helps a lot of super chats.
That's wild.
We'll pull it up for the uncensored portion of the show.
unidentified
Wow.
tate brown
Great portal.
Great people.
unidentified
I love the white monster.
tate brown
I've always loved the people.
unidentified
They call me the white monster.
tate brown
You're thins.
unidentified
A lot of oil.
tate brown
Wow.
tim pool
I heard they're in a snowy.
We got a story for the uncensored portion of the show that I can't even mention.
I can only passively mention, and I have to tell you guys not to talk about it.
We're going to save it for the uncensored.
But there's a viral video from a bathroom.
Have you seen it?
No.
unidentified
No, I don't think so.
tim pool
There's a trans person in the bathroom.
unidentified
No, I don't.
tim pool
Oh, yes, I did see.
We can't talk about what the video is, but it is horrifying.
ian crossland
I'm so amped.
tim pool
And but because people don't believe this stuff happens, but she got on it.
unidentified
I saw the shadow shit.
Yeah, but it's fine.
tim pool
Oh, right, right.
We'll just save it for the uncensored because it's really.
What I was going to say is that Phyllis saying there's no Greenland because that's actually a Gartha.
unidentified
That's what he's talking about.
tate brown
That's what I've heard.
unidentified
That's what I heard.
tim pool
No, guys.
The ice wall, the earth is not flat.
The ice wall keeps the inner continents trapped because Tartarian Atlantis, the greater, more advanced humans, uses his slaves.
unidentified
Yeah, it's true.
I mean, there has to be a portal outside the ice wall through Greenland.
tim pool
But we need to portally just fly over the ice wall.
tate brown
We find these super.
We go to the Turning Point Amphest next year, go through the portal to meet these super advanced humans.
They're just Koreans.
tim pool
Haven't you guys seen Attack on Titan?
unidentified
No.
But you don't know.
tim pool
We're basically Attack on Titan.
tate brown
Really?
tim pool
Yeah.
unidentified
Basically.
tim pool
In the show, they think the world ended because gigantic humanoid Titan monsters took everything over and killed everybody.
But it actually turns out they're on an isolated island where they're trapped there.
And the rest of the love is functioning like normal.
ian crossland
That's like the forest, that M. Shyamalan movie.
tim pool
I love that.
ian crossland
Where you find out later, like, it was all messed up.
unidentified
Yeah, I've seen that one.
tim pool
That guy doesn't know how to make a movie without a twist in it.
ian crossland
I think it was called The Forest.
tim pool
You just can't make a regular movie.
phil labonte
Some of his movies are good.
ian crossland
The Village, The Village.
tim pool
That's what it's like.
I mean, all of his movies are bad.
Name a good.
I'm not Shyamalan.
ian crossland
I thought The Village was good.
That was Bryce Howard.
That was the first time I saw her in a movie.
She was great.
I thought her performance.
tim pool
The Sixth Sense was really good, and then every movie has just collapsed.
phil labonte
I like signs because of Mel Gibson.
unidentified
Signs.
tate brown
Seventh Sense.
tim pool
The Seventh Sense.
unidentified
Sixth Sense.
tate brown
I don't remember what the name of the movie.
tim pool
Do you know how many senses humans have?
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
At least.
tate brown
Gosh, I knew I was getting set up.
tim pool
It's always the funniest thing that people say, like, someone just told them we have five senses, and everyone just agrees.
ian crossland
I know, it's so basic.
I'm such a sheep.
You can sense so many more frequencies than what you think you can.
tim pool
Yeah, I'm not talking about frequencies.
I'm talking about balance.
ian crossland
What about balance?
unidentified
Uh-huh.
tim pool
I'm talking about temperature.
tate brown
Ooh, temperature.
tim pool
Oh, humans have touch, smell, see, hear, and taste, right?
And they said those are the five senses.
We can also sense balance.
We can level ourselves out.
We can also sense temperature, variance.
That's seven already.
ian crossland
Is temperature not touch?
tim pool
Perhaps, but you don't need to touch something to feel temperature.
So perhaps.
ian crossland
Yeah, because it's air moving past your skin.
They might argue that's touch.
tim pool
But you can feel heat.
So touch, fine, but balance is another way.
ian crossland
Balance is healthy.
tim pool
There's actually like a bunch.
If you look it up, there's a ton of senses that, and it's kind of like once you read it, you go, oh, yeah, like balance is obvious.
You have a sense of balance.
Yeah, pressure.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, texture might be touch, though.
But pressure is a good point.
ian crossland
Because sound is also pressure.
So that's kind of.
Yeah.
tim pool
People just say things.
ian crossland
It's all pressure.
unidentified
It's probably touch, right?
tim pool
You could feel it.
tate brown
I love pressure.
ian crossland
Technically, sound is touch.
tate brown
Pressure makes diamonds.
ian crossland
Which is weird.
unidentified
That's true.
tim pool
I guess it's all touch because your eyes are getting 21.
ian crossland
21 senses.
unidentified
21.
I like that.
tim pool
Sight, smell, sound, taste, touch, balance.
There's something called external body awareness.
ian crossland
Oh, your sense of like where you are in the room that's pressing.
tim pool
Oh, external and internal body awareness are considered senses.
ian crossland
That's cool.
Spatial awareness.
tate brown
Senses DLC.
I didn't even realize.
ian crossland
Oh, yeah, dude.
Upgrade.
It's only $7.99.
unidentified
Interesting.
tim pool
Yeah.
The spectrum of senses actually has to do with mental disorders.
ian crossland
That's also interesting.
tim pool
People who are suffering from mental sores based on the various senses.
Interesting.
ian crossland
I've always been in extra sensory perception.
Does that just encapsulate it?
tim pool
33 senses.
Oh, there's more and there's more.
unidentified
33.
tate brown
They keep dropping new senses.
ian crossland
Hold on.
They're going to make a new flag.
tim pool
That's insane.
So you can buy a mystery box and get a new box.
tate brown
Yeah, a little loot crate.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tate brown
You can pack a bunch of scents, get a better one.
tim pool
Yeah.
Actually, it's like a battle for sense.
Depending on how you break it down, actually vision can be broken down into different senses.
Color, not only can you see movement, but you can see colors as well.
And some people can't.
So that's an interesting point because if you said sight is a sense, but someone's colorblind or someone's tone deaf, are you saying they're half-sensed?
No, they can still see movement, but they can't see color.
Some people can see both.
Interesting.
Pressure.
ian crossland
Pressure.
tim pool
Serge mentioned.
Let's see what else is there.
Balance, acceleration.
phil labonte
That's awesome.
tim pool
We can sense acceleration.
ian crossland
Kind of sometimes because we're accelerating on the earth right now, but we're desensitized.
phil labonte
You're talking about getting a car.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Also, the car is relative.
tate brown
Also, if the earth was accelerating, we'd be in trouble.
ian crossland
It is constantly accelerating.
Even when you're moving the same speed, you're technically accelerating to maintain speed, technically.
tim pool
Full stomach.
tate brown
Ooh.
tim pool
Hunger.
ian crossland
That's okay.
I'm listening, but that's like touch, right?
tim pool
Hunger is a sense.
unidentified
Hunger.
tim pool
I guess technically not, though.
It's considered an intro in intro receptor.
Interoceptor, it's called.
tate brown
Losing is a sense.
I don't have it of a disorder.
tim pool
Really?
I can't.
Well, no, Tate can't.
He doesn't know when he loses.
ian crossland
Right.
tim pool
It's his mind.
ian crossland
He's always winning.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
Constantly taking out the best.
tim pool
I can sense when people are.
You can't sense wins.
ian crossland
It's the optimist.
unidentified
I can sense when people are retarded.
Like when I saw Candace Owens, I was like, going on.
tim pool
Bro, it's wild that she was like, the invasion of Venezuela was for Israel and the Zionists.
It's like radically crazy.
unidentified
Are you shitting me?
tim pool
What are you talking about?
What does that mean?
It was also the French, too.
unidentified
No, it was also the French.
tim pool
They were in on it.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Give me clicks.
tim pool
I mean, it's just like, maybe we're in the wrong line of work.
Maybe you want to launch a successful show.
You just be like, on today's episode of Why Jews Are Bad.
ian crossland
But to be honest, I bet she's under like this undue amount of stress right now and like has no outlet.
tim pool
You know what we should do?
I figured it out.
We need to do a show where we talk about how the Jews are bad, but slowly every day, what we're actually doing is incrementally changing the definition of Jew.
So it's like you start with saying, yeah, that Jewish guy who runs the media thing is a bad guy, but he also likes golfing.
Then the next day you're like, so these Jewish guys who go golfing, after a few months, you eventually jumped so many steps, you're now talking about race car drivers.
And now you're like, those race car drivers.
And everyone's like, yeah.
And they totally forgot they're talking about Jews.
You can just slowly, you know.
ian crossland
You could do that.
tim pool
We could do that.
ian crossland
Start associating Jewish people with golfing and then just start talking about golfers.
Everyone will assume you're talking about the 330.
tim pool
And then you actually just drop the innuendo and literally just talk about golfers and start naming like Scotty Scheffler and being like, these golfers.
And then people love the content.
I saw Macron golfing once.
tate brown
You NBA players is like Penny Hardaway.
It's like, well, you know, that person said Tiger Woods.
unidentified
He's a golfer.
tate brown
Great golfer.
unidentified
They would say the biggest golfer.
tate brown
The Jews love me.
They love me a lot.
unidentified
They like putting balls in holes.
ian crossland
Wow.
unidentified
That's crazy.
All right.
tim pool
Let's grab another chitty.
Ferris McLaren says, Happy New Year, Tim.
Hanlon's razor suggests a person is stupid or ignorant on a particular issue or topic and not stupid as a whole.
Are there any plans to bring Candace on the Culture War podcast to see if she's dumb or evil on Charlie Kirk?
Sunlight is the best disinfectant.
It'd be a great show.
I mean, well, the answer is no, but we could.
You know what I mean?
I think it's an issue of that's a tough one.
She likes how difficult it was for her to do the Erica Kirk thing.
She's already turned down, apparently, like tens of thousands of dollars to actually do these debates.
So we've not actually considered it.
We could.
She is like, I would have her on the show.
It's fine.
If you do put her on the show, can you please put somebody in a French mustache with a baguette just sitting next to you?
Here's the issue.
ian crossland
I'll be French as fuck to you.
tim pool
The problem with Candace is that she knows she's doing bad, and there's no real conversation to be had with someone who's intentionally doing evil.
I'm not saying don't host these people.
I'm saying bring her on the show.
She would just use manipulation tactics instead of addressing the actual issues.
You'd say something and she'd change the subject.
Liberals do it all the time.
ian crossland
Yeah, you'd want to not put no one on the defensive.
unidentified
She started her career with doxing conservatives.
It's literally what she.
tim pool
All right.
Kay Dub from the boot says, let me get a job, Tim.
I work for a private detention company in Security Electronics, but I'm tired of working in a prison.
I got to be honest.
How many people work here who are just super chatters?
Like two or three.
ian crossland
At least Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
tim pool
Raymond and Chuck.
ian crossland
Oh, yeah, Charles, dude.
phil labonte
Yeah, Charles was a super chat.
I didn't know that.
Mr. Better.
tim pool
And then they were just super chatting all the time, so we knew who they were.
So when they emailed, we were like, yeah, why not?
You know what I mean?
ian crossland
Raymond would call in.
tim pool
I'm not suggesting anybody super chat in order to get a job.
ian crossland
No, but you call in and we talk to you.
I mean, that's the best way to get a gig is to know the people hiring you.
tate brown
Yeah, you think we're answering questions.
We're actually interviewing you.
tim pool
Well, I'll say this too.
We'll hire who we need to hire.
But obviously, we can only hire the people we know who exist.
And so if there's people who are fans of the show, people we've met, people who are members or whatever, and we already know them, not by any legal means, but just by proximity, they're more likely to hear about opportunities.
ian crossland
I'm going to beg, please don't call in and ask to work here.
I mean, it's a hard thing to say no to over and over again.
phil labonte
And it's like Ian that you should tweet at Ian.
Yeah, sure.
ian crossland
I'd love to hire everybody.
tim pool
All right, everybody.
We're going to go to the uncensored portion of the show.
So smash the like button, share the show with everyone you know.
You can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast.
Go to rumble.com slash Timcast IRL because we got a dark story for you.
Some of you are going to get pissed off, but we're going to talk about it.
And then we'll play one of these goofy AI videos again.
Follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast.
And good sir, would you like to shout anything out?
unidentified
Follow me on X and Instagram at LanceVideos.
Post a lot of cool stuff.
Check me out.
It's pretty cool.
ian crossland
Thanks for coming, dude.
I'm at Ian Crossland.
Follow me at Ian Crossland, all across social media.
Go to graphene.movie because the trailer is live.
It's a minute long.
I'm very pleasantly surprised with it.
I'd love to see what you think.
Go to graphene.movie, sign up for the email list, and you'll be getting notified when the movie is live, too, and how to get it.
Graphene.movie.
Check it out.
tate brown
X and Instagram at Realtate Brown.
Come hang out tomorrow on Rumble for the Timcast News Live Show.
I will see you there.
phil labonte
I am Phil the Remains on Twix.
The band is all that remains.
We're going on tour this year.
We're going to be out in May with Born of Osiris and Dead Eyes.
So go get your tickets.
You can check out the band all that remains on Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify, YouTube, and Deezer.
Don't forget the left lane is for crime.
tim pool
We will see you all at rumble.com slash Timcast IRL in about 30 seconds.
Thanks for hanging out.
I don't know what this is.
phil labonte
It's scream till you drop.
unidentified
Wash, clang, menjaro, just a goofy prophecy.
tim pool
What's uh, Holmes Stallone?
unidentified
Screaming Marb and Harry back, you thought they would have learned.
Lacerated, pulverized, electrically burned.
They scared on Christmas bell, yet second chances were not earned.
Mamdani came and clutched their freedom reconfirmed.
Folks alone in the zone with his muscles made of stone.
Every breaking flaming fireball says no, these are not the judge.
Let the villains jingle out, but now they must atone.
This is the song.
tim pool
I'm going to play the full song.
This is the best one he's done.
unidentified
Yeah, it's B.
Yeah, it's A.
It's B.
tim pool
It's a great song, but I'm going to play if you play it too many times.
Here's a story.
And we wanted to play a little bit of that music before you guys wept.
Who wants to read the title of this one?
phil labonte
Trans Gym Goer Caught Masturbating in Women's Bathroom at California Planet Fitness.
tate brown
Of course, it was Planet Fitness.
tim pool
Why is it always at Planet Fitness?
This is the world we live in.
And there's video.
Where's the do they not have the video of it?
It's on X.
I know that for sure.
Yeah, they got video of him.
tate brown
That's light from Planet Fitness.
unidentified
Well, they have the shadow.
It's a scum.
ian crossland
That's even better.
tate brown
It's not watching.
ian crossland
This is the kind of shit I would not expose.
tim pool
What, you guys don't want to watch a trans person whack off in a bathroom?
ian crossland
I didn't say that.
I would load it up, baby.
tate brown
Every Planet Fitness.
phil labonte
I don't know.
unidentified
Wow.
ian crossland
If it happened, I'd love to see it.
phil labonte
Oh, my God.
unidentified
Jesus.
tate brown
When the workouts are.
tim pool
Oh, my God, bro.
When the workout.
tate brown
So they set up the Lunk Alarm.
unidentified
Hey, hey.
tate brown
Set off the jerk alarm.
tim pool
So basically, this guy goes into a woman's bathroom and starts cranking it.
ian crossland
And then a girl walks.
Oh, they just caught him.
tim pool
And the girl saw the shadow of the dude cranking it and started filming it.
And then when this guy gets caught, he's like, I'm trans.
ian crossland
Oh, my God.
tim pool
I'm allowed to be here.
ian crossland
What's the aftermath?
unidentified
It's like a family guy thing.
It's like, oh, you're trans?
Well, you can just do whatever the fuck you want anytime.
tate brown
I'm going to say, you know what?
I'm going to come in here at the nuclear hot take.
Planet Fitness, this, like, you should expect this.
This is fine.
ian crossland
I like your call out Planet Fitness.
tate brown
It's like 15 bucks a month.
Like, at least the one I was at.
If I saw that, look the other way, I'd be like, it's $15.
I expect, you know, is the bathroom cranking it.
tim pool
Was there like no arrests or anything?
tate brown
No, it's Planet Fitness.
unidentified
Wait, hold on.
tate brown
It's in the contract.
tim pool
Wait, this guy was beating his wife?
ian crossland
That was beating him off.
He was beating off.
tim pool
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
The 42-year-old mission who has been outspoken about transgender women, blah, blah, blah, posted a response to Planet Fitness.
When you see me speak with passion, this is why.
Women and girls deserve truth, safety, not confusion, denial.
Hyman continued.
Sex is real.
Boundaries matter.
Reality matters.
This isn't hate.
This is care.
phil labonte
This is love.
tim pool
Hyman was filmed last year getting into a heated argument with Alexis Black, a convicted wife beater who is transitioning.
Oh, okay.
Hyman had filed complaints against Black for the woman's locker room and accused Black of exposing himself and harassing her in the locker room, which he denied.
Black, formerly Grant Freeman, pleaded guilty in 2022 to savagely beating his wife, Alexis Freeman, while still living as a man in Ohio.
I'm just violence.
tate brown
Planet Fitness.
ian crossland
Pronouns.
tim pool
They're always violence.
phil labonte
It's disgusting.
Jail.
tim pool
I just want to laugh a little bit again.
Here I got the laughs, not the horror.
You know, guys, I'm sorry, just real quick.
The year is 1961.
This happens.
ian crossland
Lynching.
Yeah.
tim pool
Ian doesn't even wait to get it.
ian crossland
No, fucking on the streets.
They would tear the guy off by his hair and drag him out of the body.
tim pool
He'd just bring the dude up by his ball.
ian crossland
And people would crowd around and watch.
tim pool
And they'd beat him with sticks.
ian crossland
That's so fucked.
phil labonte
I mean, to your point, though, like, there was a time 20 years ago where you'd hear about this and you'd laugh because it was so out of the, like, it was so out of left field.
It was so crazy.
Be like, well, of course they threw him in jail and you'd make jokes about it.
But now it's just like this kind of stuff is just permeating the culture so bad.
You're just like, it would be like Jesus fucking Christ.
tate brown
It'd be a Seinfeld bit.
phil labonte
Yeah, right?
tate brown
You ever have a workout so good?
You got to go and relieve yourself.
ian crossland
It would.
Kramer would have jerked it at the gym.
tate brown
Kramer, no, you can't jerk off in the girl's bathroom.
phil labonte
What are you doing?
unidentified
Jerry, I had to go.
tate brown
Jerry, I had to get in there.
unidentified
You should have seen this.
You can't stop it, Jerry.
You can't stop it.
If you're not jerking, are you really even working out?
What are you doing?
Look at this guy comes out.
His arms like this big.
It's like, wow, he's really good at working out.
tim pool
I imagine it would actually be like Kramer slides in and he's like, Jerry, you got to help me.
I got arrested for jerking off in the women's bathroom.
And then Jerry goes, so you jerked in the woman's bath.
tate brown
You jerked in the woman's bathroom.
unidentified
You can't do that.
You can't be jerking.
I jerked.
I can't.
You can't jerk.
Please do dance.
tate brown
You can't jerk in the planet fitness.
tim pool
Today.
ian crossland
I think they might relaunch another season.
Have you guys seen the rumor?
I don't know if it's true.
unidentified
Oh, God.
ian crossland
But they're all phenomenal actors.
tim pool
Me doing a satirical Seinfeld with AI is funny.
Rebooting that show is horrifying.
tate brown
The funniest, like, the funniest moment, I think, in TV history was Michael Richards after the fact, and he went, they brought him on Letterman.
tim pool
After the fact of what?
tate brown
You know, when he had a little go-off moment.
ian crossland
Well, what?
phil labonte
He said the N-word.
ian crossland
What is that?
tim pool
What word?
phil labonte
Nigger.
tate brown
Well, so he has this, you know, this brouhaha in public, and Jerry Seinfeld's on Letterman.
And Jerry brings on, this is like the first time there's ever been a celebrity apology.
So it was like this really weird moment.
He brings Michael Richards on, and Michael Richards is like apologizing for saying the N-word.
And the entire audience starts laughing because in their head, it's like an episode of Seinfeld where Kramer screams explicitly.
If you watch the video, the audience is laughing, and then Jerry goes, Stop laughing.
Wait, wait, who's the series?
ian crossland
No, no, Michael.
tate brown
Oh, it's one of the greatest.
unidentified
Michael does.
ian crossland
He said Jerry, but Michael Richards.
tate brown
Michael Richardson, he's on what show on Letterman on Letterman.
He's like calling in apologies.
Because no one's ever seen a celebrity apology before, so it's like super funny.
Yeah, he's like, I'm so sorry.
ian crossland
I hear you.
david letterman
Now, this Michael Richards thing.
Now, I don't know him well.
I've known him a long time, but I don't know him well.
And I can remember years and years ago at the comedy store, he would get on stage, and he was always a very dynamic performer.
ian crossland
Partly after that, dynamic to the point that you'll often jump to the Richards interview.
tate brown
Yeah, it's like right in the middle.
david letterman
But still, we all got a kick out of it because it was in good fun.
And he was right funny.
And then we see this thing today where he goes nuts in some kind of club and is screaming at people.
Have you guys talked about him?
Do you know anything about it?
unidentified
I did talk to him.
I talked to him today.
And, you know, I was extremely upset about it.
And he is extremely upset about it.
And I asked him if he would come on the show tonight so that he could explain what happened because it was just one of those awful, awful things.
And I think he's a little mystified about what happened, but I think most importantly, he wanted to.
david letterman
We have him live via satellite from Los Angeles.
This should be Michael Richards.
Michael, are you there?
michael richards
Yeah, I'm right here.
david letterman
Hi, Michael.
Welcome to the show.
michael richards
Hello, hi.
david letterman
How are you doing?
michael richards
I'm not doing too good.
david letterman
Why don't you explain exactly what happened for the folks who may not know?
michael richards
I lost my temper on stage.
I was at a comedy club trying to do my act, and I got heckled.
And I took it badly and went into a rage and said some pretty nasty things to some Afro-Americans.
david letterman
A lot of trash.
unidentified
Stop laughing.
Stop laughing.
david letterman
Were you actually being heckled, or were they just talking and disturbing the act?
michael richards
That was going on, too.
tate brown
It's like a different world.
michael richards
And I'm hearing your audience laugh, you know, and it's, I'm not even sure that this is where I should be addressing the situation.
I've already heard you make some jokes about it, and that's okay, you know, but I'm really busted up over this, and I'm very, very sorry.
To those people in the audience, the blacks, the Hispanics, whites, everyone that was there that took the brunt of that anger and hate and rage.
tate brown
I feel like you'd beat someone else.
michael richards
That's how it came through.
And I'm concerned about more hate and more rage and more anger coming through not just towards me, but towards actually is a great bit.
tate brown
It's so funny.
michael richards
Kramer, like, black-white conflict.
unidentified
There's like a great deal of disturbance in this country.
michael richards
And like, if this happened, it happened in Katrina.
You can't say the Arnwood.
Many of the coming to Navy performers are Las Vegas and New Orleans trying to raise money for what happened.
ian crossland
Against cancel passion.
And he's like, it's fucking comedy.
michael richards
For this to happen, for me to be a comedy shit, I think on the planet, I think it's a good thing.
And sitting trap, you know, I'm Jerry Seinfeld is deeply, deeply sorry.
ian crossland
And this guy one of my favorite actors of all time.
It was so sad that he had to go through bullshit or the way it happened.
michael richards
Get to the force field of this hostility.
tim pool
Shut the fuck up.
michael richards
Like this, you know, it was in any of the things.
ian crossland
That was like the first cancel celebrity.
unidentified
Famously said every racial slur imaginable on a show and then called Richard Prynn anyway, the N-word.
michael richards
And everyone laughed at him.
ian crossland
I think he mishandled the apology.
If I have to criticize, obviously, Michael Huron.
tim pool
If you hadn't taken it so hard and somehow laughed it off, maybe it is, though, like when he's starting to apologize and tell the story, it is funny.
It's hilarious.
Like the way he's going, like, bro, it feels like he wrote a bit, calling him Afro.
ian crossland
What do you call it?
tim pool
Afro-Americans?
Like, he's pulling a Kramer where he's awkwardly going like, he's Afro-Americans.
Like, why are you, you're talking like it's not real?
tate brown
It's the perfect video.
unidentified
He should have just said basketball Americans or something.
That would have been really funny.
tate brown
Literally.
tim pool
No, he should have said, I know the basketball Americans aren't really that offended.
It's the Tylenol Americans.
tate brown
And the fact is, like, the first public celebrity apology because you have like actors like raping women and then like, well, you know, it's Hollywood.
It's so funny.
phil labonte
Mike Tyson went to jail for raping a woman.
I don't think he ever apologized.
tate brown
Yeah.
unidentified
For what?
phil labonte
Robin Williams.
tim pool
We're going to go to callers and we're going to start with.
What?
unidentified
Oh, there we go.
ian crossland
Shout out to Serge, by the way.
I was going to thank you earlier, Serge.
Thanks for putting this together this video today.
You and the team, man.
tim pool
Is this who's logged in?
ian crossland
Oh, it is.
tim pool
We're going to go to callers and we're going to start with Pastor Gandalf.
phil labonte
Yo, what's up?
tim pool
Can't hear anything.
Is he talking?
ian crossland
Speak to me, Gandalf.
tate brown
Maybe he's got nothing to say.
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