Dec. 3, 2025 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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| In a viral post on X, Candace Owens says she is convinced she has received information that she believes proves Turning Point USA has betrayed Charlie Kirk. | ||
| What does that really mean, betrayed? | ||
| Well, she's implied that there's multinational organizations involved in the assassination. | ||
| There's Israelis, the French Foreign Legion. | ||
| And with this latest post, the implication a lot of people took away is that they were involved in some way in the murder of Charlie Kirk, which, considering what we've seen already over the past couple of months, most people just believe that's the insinuation she's been desperately trying to make, which is really funny because so many people come out and go, she never said that. | ||
| She's like, dude, come on. | ||
| The post that she's made, the claims that she's making, in another claim, I believe this was today's episode, she said that one of the individuals, a high-ranking individual at Turning Point, lost millions of dollars when they didn't do a deal with Bibi Netanyahu. | ||
| You add all these things together. | ||
| She's painting a picture of Turning Point angry that Charlie wouldn't work with Israel, was turning on Israel. | ||
| So Turning Point betrayed him because they lost money and had him killed. | ||
| And they used French Foreign Legion or whatever to do it. | ||
| I gotta be honest. | ||
| Well, I'll save the overt commentary for the show, but the insinuation that you're seeing across X, the implication she's making, they were involved in the murder of Charlie Kirk, which I'm just gonna say outright, I think is silly, but we'll talk about that. | ||
| And there's a bunch of actually important news. | ||
| The Washington Post claimed that Hegseth, Secretary of War, ordered the killing of survivors of a drone strike as they were clinging to a boat for dear life. | ||
| And the New York Times said that's never happened. | ||
| They actually checked with five different sources independent of each other. | ||
| And they all said Hegseth just gave an order to strike the boats and left. | ||
| So why did the Washington Post lie? | ||
| Because they are now claiming in the press formally that the actions taken by Trump's administration are illegal and the orders given are illegal. | ||
| At the same time, Mark Kelly, Alyssa Lotkin, and many of the Democrats have told the military to defy illegal orders. | ||
| This is why they are putting out these lies. | ||
| They are factionalizing our military. | ||
| And, well, you all know what I think about that. | ||
| So we'll talk about that, plus some silly stories. | ||
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| Joining us tonight to talk about this and everything else is Nick Freitas. | ||
| Great to be back. | ||
| Welcome back, sir. | ||
| Who are you? | ||
| What do you do? | ||
| Well, I'm currently in the Virginia House of Delegates, although I'm not seeking re-election, which given the last election results, probably a good move. | ||
| But yeah, no, host of Making the Argument and the Wine Minutes and other snarky mug compilations on social media. | ||
| Radan, well, it's always great to have you. | ||
| So welcome back. | ||
| It's going to be fun. | ||
| We got a lot hanging out. | ||
| Good evening, everybody. | ||
| I am Elada Liyahu, White House correspondent here at Timcast. | ||
| What's up, Phil? | ||
| Hello, everybody. | ||
| My name is Phil LeBonte. | ||
| I'm the lead singer of the Heavy Medal and All That Remains. | ||
| I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary. | ||
| Let's get into it. | ||
| And real quick, just one more quick promo. | ||
| This Saturday at 9 a.m. at Hollywood Charlestown, I will be playing poker with professional poker player Faraz Jaka. | ||
| Y'all are welcome to come and play. | ||
| I imagine the tables are going to be full up super quick. | ||
| So if you show up, you might just end up playing with some other people. | ||
| But we will be there. | ||
| It's kind of a meetup game, I guess, and it's going to be a lot of fun. | ||
| We didn't know if we wanted to announce that we were going to be having this game, but I figure, hey, show up and let's see if we can pack this poker room. | ||
| But let's get into the story here from Raw Story. | ||
| Charlie Kirk was betrayed. | ||
| Right-winger turns on Turning Point Leadership After Murder. | ||
| Candace has, I would just describe it as officially gone for, I don't know, what would you describe this? | ||
| The kill shot on Turning Point USA. | ||
| She is not just implying that they were involved in the murder of Charlie Kirk, but that everybody should get a refund. | ||
| And she's trying to get them to pull their donations. | ||
| She tweets, I received information last night that put the final pieces together for me. | ||
| I now can say with full confidence that I believe Charlie Kirk was betrayed by the leadership of Turning Point USA and some of the very people who eulogized him on stage. | ||
| Yes, I will be naming names and providing evidence for my claims. | ||
| And I'm making a personal plea to every well-meaning person who donated to this Godforsaken organization to request a refund. | ||
| You were lied to, and leadership knew. | ||
| Oh boy, Candace is doing everything she can to destroy Turning Point USA. | ||
| And then we have, we have this video. | ||
| Evan Kilgore posted it. | ||
| Candace Owens just said a close family friend of Andrew Colvett allegedly reached out to her and said that Andrew told them he lost out of millions when Charlie rejected the deal with Benjamin Netanyahu earlier this year. | ||
| Let me play the clip for you from her show. | ||
| It's a minute long. | ||
| We just can't all be hanging out in Delaware. | ||
| And there's one more thing that came in regarding Andrew Colvett, very close family friend of Andrew Colvett had messaged me early on. | ||
| And I, again, was not tracking any of this at the time, but they had said that they felt that Andrew Colvett was acting weird. | ||
| And I'm sure that's not a big deal. | ||
| I think we were all acting weird. | ||
| Charlie Kirk was assassinated, but moreover, they had mentioned that specifically Andrew had told them that when Charlie said no to BB, he lost out on millions. | ||
| Now, I'm going to say allegedly because this is a tip, but I have that tip in writing. | ||
| I'm not lying to you. | ||
| And I thought to myself, that is so weird. | ||
| How could the spokesperson at Turning Point USA be on the, how could they be gaining millions from that? | ||
| What's the structure here of these contracts? | ||
| That even people that are in PR, people that are like running PR departments are getting tips on the basis of donations. | ||
| I don't know how this is working, but we need to figure out how this is working. | ||
| I think it's really important that we learn the truth about what happened. | ||
| Who's Pierre? | ||
| Is it Pierre? | ||
| I'm PR. | ||
| And has Turning Point been paid? | ||
| Obviously, it wouldn't be on this year's taxes. | ||
| You're not going to find those on this year's taxes, but they would be on next year's, but we can ask now. | ||
| You know, I was having a conversation with a friend of mine, and we were talking about how the average reading level in the United States is around like seventh grade. | ||
| And I think she first had the eighth grade, and I was like, you know, this is funny because this just came up on Tim Castillo the other night. | ||
| I think it's actually around seventh grade. | ||
| And then I was like, I double check because we pulled up the data. | ||
| And it actually ranges from between fifth to eighth grade. | ||
| So it's like sixth, seventh grade reading level. | ||
| And if I don't think Candace is stupid, I think she's actually super intelligent. | ||
| I think she's a genius. | ||
| And what I mean by that is not that she's a good person, but I believe that she is extremely aware. | ||
| She is quick to learn and understand what she is doing. | ||
| That's why I think what she's doing is amoral, is wrong. | ||
| It's immoral. | ||
| Because the way she just phrased all of that to imply that there was some illicit deal with Andrew Colvett and Israel, it's exactly what she's been doing. | ||
| And I'm going to say this much to the, I suppose it'll sound elitist and insulting, but the people of low reading comprehension who can't parse through the manipulations, they believe this. | ||
| Let me, I said, I was sitting, I was, I was at the poker room over the weekend, and there were these young guys who were like, Did you hear that Candace is in hiding now because Israel and like they're trying to kill her over this Charlie stuff? | ||
| And I said, You mean how she posted her show is off the air for the week because it was Thanksgiving? | ||
| And they were like, She didn't say that. | ||
| I'm like, Yeah, she didn't say anything, it was vague. | ||
| That's what she does: vagaries so that you connect the dots and you can believe whatever it is you want to believe without her actually having said anything. | ||
| So, let me put it like this: if Andrew Colvett is working at a nonprofit, or literally anybody works at a nonprofit, often you get commissions on it's called development. | ||
| If you bring in a large donor, you will get a commission that is completely normal at nonprofits. | ||
| You may not like it. | ||
| People may say, I think it's wrong that you get a commission on donations, but nonprofits are the same as any other business. | ||
| So, executive directors at nonprofits at big ones are going to make million-dollar salaries. | ||
| And it is, I honestly think it's stupid that people get mad about this because if you want CEO-level talent, you have to pay CEO-level wages. | ||
| Usually, it's not going to be identical. | ||
| You know, I think Charlie was getting, I think they say he was around a million bucks between the four between four different nonprofits, and he was worth substantially more than that. | ||
| His show alone was probably bringing way more anyway. | ||
| But if Colvet or literally anybody was organizing some kind of deal, be it with Netanyahu or anyone else, now you can argue that in and of itself is wrong, but getting a commission on a donation is actually fairly routine for big organizations, especially when someone is working with they call it development. | ||
| So, the insinuation now is that Turning Point USA killed Charlie. | ||
| But the sledgehammer, of course, is when she says everybody should request a refund from this organization. | ||
| Now, obviously, y'all know that we have the minorest of drama issues with Turning Point. | ||
| We're not going to be there at Amfest, but it is what it is. | ||
| I ain't crying about it. | ||
| I talk to these guys relatively often, so whatever. | ||
| But the idea that you would try to destroy them and get everybody to pull their donations using the insinuation they murdered Charlie Kirk is evil. | ||
| It's evil. | ||
| My whole thing with this, because I get asked about what do you think about what Candace said, or what's like, look, I got no problem with people that want to question the official narrative. | ||
| No problem. | ||
| You know, I got questions about the whole 30 out 6 caliber and is this really going to, you know, did it do the damage, et cetera. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| What I don't understand, though, and I worded it to someone this way once. | ||
| I said, if I spent my entire life building an organization that I truly believed in, and I built a life with my wife who I absolutely loved, and somebody came out and started making accusations that both the organization that I built and dedicated my life to and the woman I dedicated my life to were somehow complicit in my murder. | ||
| I would hope, I would hope that they had real receipts before they were willing to put my wife or my organization, my life's work on the line for that. | ||
| Again, you can ask all you want, but I would hope before people would believe that, you would actually be bringing something fairly concrete. | ||
| Has Candace and I'd hope that, well, I can only imagine that if/slash when I die, I got a lot of text messages with people that can be made to sound. | ||
| You know, I wonder if I could like, you could take any text message from me to anybody else and make it sound crazy. | ||
| Let me see if I can find especially Tebbs. | ||
| Well, hold on, I'm grabbing Phil over here. | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| I'm going to, I'm going to, hold on. | ||
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What is this? | |
| What is what is this? | ||
| I'm sure that there are sufficient text messages in my phone that would do me in. | ||
| I'm trying to find a text from Phil that's not really like bad. | ||
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It's kind of vague. | |
| There's hard R's, straight hard R's all the time. | ||
| I mean, there's just the N-word like crazy. | ||
| I don't want to read any of those. | ||
| No, but like, I'm not going to read anything explicitly, but like the point I'm making is I just pulled up the text I have with Phil. | ||
| And here's one. | ||
| Hey, Tim, thanks again for today. | ||
| When you get a chance, can you shoot me Chad's number? | ||
| And then all I have to do is go, here's a message from Phil. | ||
| Chad, I remember that day when we were all hanging out. | ||
| It was so sad. | ||
| And, you know, Phil looked at me and he said, brother, we're in this together. | ||
| And I went, I'm right there with you. | ||
| That's what she's doing. | ||
| She's just showing like any random text. | ||
| And it's just, it's really gross. | ||
| How much, like, how much stuff has she actually shown? | ||
| I'm not following. | ||
| So I don't, I can't say that I've watched every episode she's ever done, but I watched her show today. | ||
| And what I will say is when everyone, I've watched a handful of her shows. | ||
| I've watched the ones that are relevant to what we're, you know, what's been going on, but I don't follow all of it. | ||
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And then I always hear people be like, she's not claiming Turning Point was involved. | |
| And I'm like, then you didn't watch the show where she was like, inside job. | ||
| That's how I feel. | ||
| I have no, what else can you think? | ||
| Regicide. | ||
| Yeah, regicide. | ||
| And the fact that she says things like, the caveat's always, that's how I feel. | ||
| And it's not any kind of actually substantial evidence. | ||
| It's all implication. | ||
| And she's covering her tracks by saying, this is how I feel. | ||
| I hate the whole thing. | ||
| Like from top to bottom, all of the stuff that's that all of the people talking about Charlie's murder, post-Charlie's murder, it all just seems like sharks in the water looking to pick up their little bit of attention they can get. | ||
| I have to say this, but I'm not going to say who told me it. | ||
| But this issue, of course, comes up in these private circles. | ||
| I get asked by a lot of people I meet who know who I am. | ||
| The first thing they ask me about is Candace and what she said about Turning Point. | ||
| And I have to be like, let's just stop and analyze what she said. | ||
| And like, you tell me what you think. | ||
| But someone today was talking to me about it and they were just like, you know, Candace has made a lot of insinuations. | ||
| And this latest one with like Andrew Colvette losing millions of dollars, like the implication that he's going after Charlie or whatever. | ||
| And then this person I'm talking to goes like, you know, he's not a chess player. | ||
| And that's like the nicest way of saying, with all due respect to Colvette, that he, he doesn't have the capability to plot something of this. | ||
| I'm not trying to be a dick, but like the insinuation that their spokesperson had the capability to map out this plan involving the French Foreign Legion and his Israeli spies and like getting security pulled from the roof. | ||
| Just all of that's required. | ||
| Now, I got to be honest, I've worked with security companies where I've met people who you can tell have that capability. | ||
| And I'm sure you have too. | ||
| It's not as easy as people want to make it out to be. | ||
| It's absolutely not. | ||
| And any, any, like we talked about it before, like a single janitor walking up to the roof would have ruined the whole thing. | ||
| So there's all these little nooks and crannies that have to be available. | ||
| And that's why I think it is actually very strange. | ||
| When Charlie's security was like, we just, the police said it was, you know, it was fine. | ||
| They got it. | ||
| And I'm like, nah, that don't add up. | ||
| Like security companies don't just be like, we know there's roof access and we're not going to put an old lady knitting in front of the door. | ||
| Like you have an old lady knitting in front of the door and Charlie's alive. | ||
| So that does not add up. | ||
| I mean, and, you know, Occam's razor, Hanlon's razor, it's just a very, very awful security company. | ||
| But to then go and insinuate that the people who are made rich by Charlie turned on him, I, you know, the comments that I made before that got them upset with me was that I said there are people at Turning Point that fear they can't make it without Charlie. | ||
| The people at Turning Point, like they all, they all stood to make significantly more money with Charlie at the helm than after Charlie's passed away. | ||
| But who, real quick, but that's correct. | ||
| Now, who stands to make the most money from this story? | ||
| Currently, it seems like Candace Owens. | ||
| Indeed. | ||
| Talking about how she's the biggest podcast, connecting this with the Macrones to tie it to the Bridget Macron as a man thing. | ||
| I got to be honest, right now we're looking at dropping CPMs for political content. | ||
| I was having a conversation. | ||
| You know, it's kind of a vague thing to say because I don't want to drag other prominent personalities. | ||
| But let me just say this. | ||
| I routinely talk with Jack Pisobic and Benny Johnson and Steven Crowder and a bunch of these guys, as well as ad bookers, buyers. | ||
| We have these conversations all the time. | ||
| And you know what I can say? | ||
| This one I have no problem actually mentioning. | ||
| I was talking with Jeremy Hambley from The Quartering. | ||
| And because he's made several videos talking about the decline of political content, viewership, CPMs. | ||
| And I told him, I was like, well, look, I got to be honest. | ||
| There were some people who came up to Tate, producer Tate, and mentioned, like, how come Tim's views are still good? | ||
| Like, everyone else is dropping. | ||
| And I'm like, well, you know, our viewership has gone down for sure in the season. | ||
| But, you know, my morning show is doing pretty much the same as it always has, minus like, I was sick or like off for holidays. | ||
| And so they asked these questions. | ||
| I was talking to Jeremy Hamley about it. | ||
| And I said, look, I got to be honest. | ||
| How evil are you willing to be? | ||
| Is the question. | ||
| And when we're at the end of, we're coming off the back year of this election season. | ||
| It was abnormally large this year. | ||
| It's supposed to be a dead year completely. | ||
| After every election, everyone says, turn it off. | ||
| I don't want politics. | ||
| And we actually got to squeeze some out of it because Donald Trump was doing, making bold moves. | ||
| But now we're getting the holiday season and people are like, okay, enough. | ||
| I want to hear about why the Bears are actually, Bears are in first place. | ||
| Is that what's going on? | ||
| In the NFL? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| In the NFC East, is it? | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
| I don't know if you guys have to do it. | ||
| The Vikings are having a doo-doo season. | ||
| All I know is my buddies from Chicago are like, can you believe that the Bears are actually leading? | ||
| And I was like, is that true? | ||
| That's what people care about right now. | ||
| But I said, listen, there's two things you can do. | ||
| What most people do is they try to figure out what kind of content can I make that people actually are interested in. | ||
| You know, we are in the business of trying to inform an audience on what they want, but also not just giving them red meat. | ||
| The point is, can I cover new subjects you are interested in? | ||
| So what we've found inadvertently is that the space weather stuff does really nine and three, right? | ||
| It's massive. | ||
| Very good. | ||
| Seriously. | ||
| And so, but anyway, when we talk about space weather and the auroras, we get massive viewership. | ||
| But we don't just do that because we think we'll get massive viewership. | ||
| We actually, we're all genuinely interested. | ||
| You know, Shane's here and he's talking about it. | ||
| And then I've interviewed Ben Davidson before. | ||
| And so, you know, again, telling Jeremy, I was like, you can do things like that and try and figure out, you have an audience. | ||
| They're asking for commentary. | ||
| Are you providing the commentary they're asking for? | ||
| Or you can do what Candace does and show old text mentions when Met 2018. | ||
| You can make vague insinuations that they can't sue you over and then be vague enough to where people think there's a grand conspiracy and do a true crime drama where you accuse the French first lady of having a dong. | ||
| And you will get millions of views and you will make lots of money for which now I think it's, I don't know, a fortune is saying she makes around 10 million a year. | ||
| And I'd estimate more than that. | ||
| So that's to say, you don't think she's just ignorant. | ||
| You think she's with malice for financial gain and social media clicks. | ||
| Malice in the legal sense, I think that she is fully cognizant of what she's doing. | ||
| And I do not say it lightly that I think she's a genius, right? | ||
| You know, it reminds me of that Harry Potter line where Snape says, you know, Dumbledore is a great wizard and Belatrix, it's all mad. | ||
| He's like, he is a great wizard and only a fool. | ||
| Yeah, Candace Owens is ridiculously smart. | ||
| I've told the story. | ||
| I went on her show when she's Daily Wire and I was shocked by how quick-witted, intelligent, and well-read she was. | ||
| Even before the show, she knew all current news. | ||
| I'm like, she must be reading nearly as much news as I do to know what she knows and to put these dots together. | ||
| She's very, very intelligent. | ||
| So when I see the things she's saying and I know these techniques and manipulation, like when she said, I'll be off the air this week as an update, the White House confirmed receipt of the assassination plot against me. | ||
| It's manipulative language intentionally to trick people into thinking she's going into hiding because of an assassination plot. | ||
| And I saw an account today that's following all this and they say, well, the White House has confirmed the threat. | ||
| No, the White House confirmed receipt of the threat. | ||
| This is an important distinction. | ||
| This isn't minor. | ||
| And again, I go back. | ||
| I have not spent any time on any of my show or my social media going after Candace Owens for any of this stuff, right? | ||
| I'm like, whatever. | ||
| But my issue comes down to, okay, fine. | ||
| Once again, if you're going to make this sort of accusations, if it were me, if you were making these accusations about people I loved, I would want more evidence than what you're presenting. | ||
| The other thing that I don't understand is this. | ||
| If you honestly believe that you have uncovered something that could potentially blow the lid off of one of the most consequential conspiracies, and I don't say conspiracy pejoratively, I mean the actual word and what the word means. | ||
| Okay, look, I've done a little intel analysis in my life where I was tracking terror cells. | ||
| My father was a homicide detective, and he will tell you that if you really do have all of these sources that are providing you information, every time you go out there and publicly talk about private sources close to people that are doing it, you essentially destroy that source's ability to give you future information because now they lose access and placement as the organizations that you're investigating shut down. | ||
| So my question is this. | ||
| For anybody that is, again, just genuinely interested in this, and, you know, again, there's plenty to be interested in. | ||
| If your goal is really to get to the truth, to the bottom of what happened, what really happened with Charlie, if that is, why would you go about doing it this way as an investigation? | ||
| I know why you would do it as a content creator. | ||
| I don't know why you would do it as someone that's trying to get to the bottom of, again, a horrific crime. | ||
| You know, I watched her show today. | ||
| It's very female-coded. | ||
| And that means she talked a lot about Charlie's clothing. | ||
| And it was very much like Charlie was trying to find something to wear. | ||
| And I said, you can't wear that jacket. | ||
| And it's very emotional social female coding. | ||
| Guys don't talk or think this way. | ||
| And that's why she also has the Stanley, you know, thermos or whatever. | ||
| It's a very female trendy thing. | ||
| And it's been reported previously that she and Brett Cooper and others, it's the womanosphere, right? | ||
| The trad wife, prominent conservative women. | ||
| It's a true crime drama and it plays really, really well among women. | ||
| And I think that's the play she's making. | ||
| But let's jump to the story from Fortune. | ||
| Hey, a lot of big news about Candace inside the economics of Candace Owens' media empire and the Macron lawsuit threatening to unravel it. | ||
| Oh boy, let's talk about nitty-gritty inside stuff because I got information. | ||
| So they say five years ago, Candace Owens was a mid-tier political operative working for Charlie Kirk's Turning Point USA. | ||
| Now she's a globally famous conservative firebrand with one of the fastest growing independent media platforms in the U.S., raking in cash through controversy. | ||
| But the same contrarian playbook that launched her solo career now threatens the media empire she built. | ||
| Her company generates up to $10 million in revenues per year, according to an analysis by Fortune, implying that the company's valuation would be multiples of that. | ||
| I would actually estimate, it's a broad estimation, but I think $10 million is low. | ||
| $10 million makes sense if all she is doing is sponsor spots. | ||
| But if she's doing anything else outside of that. | ||
| So if you want to talk about just her podcast, perhaps. | ||
| I guess I'll say this because I said it before, but we do more than that. | ||
| And, you know, I guess the difference is I do like five different shows. | ||
| So it's more granular where she has one big show. | ||
| We have a bunch of smaller shows. | ||
| So maybe, but I think she probably does closer to 20, 20 million or so. | ||
| But who knows? | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| Revenues are down, although her show seems to be doing very well. | ||
| They're now talking about this massive lawsuit. | ||
| The conservative podcaster and provocateur is facing a high-stakes defamation lawsuit filed by French President Emmanuel Macron and Bridget Macron, the first lady. | ||
| The suit is set to test whether the controversy as currency ouvre that made, is that how you pronounce that? | ||
| Oev, ouvra? | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
| That made Owens rich and gave her a media brand that reaches tens of millions of people can survive what experts say will be an immensely costly legal battle. | ||
| The 219-page complaint filed in Delaware Superior Court in July of 2025 accuses Owens of orchestrating a campaign of global humiliation by promoting the conspiracy theory that Bridget McCrone was born male. | ||
| The plaintiff's weapon of choice, Claire Locke, the firm that has extracted a record-shattering $787.5 million settlement from Fox News on behalf of Dominion, the largest media defamation payout in American history, the Macron's vehemently deny Owens' allegations. | ||
| Owens has vowed to fight the suit. | ||
| Interestingly, the suit alleges that spreading false information is essentially Owens' business model. | ||
| The complaint names three defendants, Candace Owens personally, Candace Owens LLC, her Delaware company, and Georgetown Inc., presumably named after her husband, George Farmer, who is directly involved in the business and operates her website and podcast distribution. | ||
| In naming all three parties, the suit takes aim not only at Owens personally, but also her entire known business infrastructure. | ||
| She won't win. | ||
| She will not win this. | ||
| I can't say that I'm psychic or that everything I say is going to come true, but she won't. | ||
| I will say with, you know, look, I'm willing to make predictions and try and make vague predictions. | ||
| You know, maybe at this time something like this would happen, but who knows? | ||
| I could be wrong. | ||
| With this, I'll say she will lose for two big reasons. | ||
| Bridget McCrone is not a man. | ||
| It's not so much whether Bridget McCrone is a man or is not. | ||
| I mean, who knows? | ||
| Maybe, I guess. | ||
| I don't need proof. | ||
| Yeah, I don't. | ||
| Yeah, I don't want proof. | ||
| The issue is it's kind of a bold, ridiculous, and hard-to-prove thing that is going to land on defamation per se, which is it is so humiliating and damning because it's not just that Bridget Macron is a man, but apparently Candace has also insinuated that it's a pedophilic network or something, or at least that's what people are posting online saying it's not just about this. | ||
| There's more here. | ||
| And apparently there's some reporting that Candace has claimed Bridget Macron may be Emmanuel Macron's dad. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But that makes no sense because Bridget Macron is much smaller, but whatever, I guess. | ||
| But here's the real reason. | ||
| When the French government says we're going to your courts, the way the world works is not some rigid contractual letter-of-the-law math. | ||
| People consistently fall for this. | ||
| They believe that, you know, there's a viral clip I watched, the Thomas Crown affair, where Pierce Brazn signs the contract and then they start busting out laughing, like, ha we got you. | ||
| And then he gets up and says, now explain to your board why you paid 30 million more than everyone else offered. | ||
| And they look all shocked. | ||
| But the thing is, if you ever signed a contract and then as soon as you signed it, the guy started laughing, saying they got you, that contract is not going to be binding. | ||
| You're not going to go into a court and the judge is going to be like, was there something in the contract you didn't read? | ||
| And be like, yeah, we absolutely did not agree that I'd signed over power of attorney. | ||
| The judge is going to be like, okay, contract is out. | ||
| It's the stupidest idea. | ||
| So here's what really matters. | ||
| When the French government says we want to stop Candace, I imagine what happens is, you know, Candace has claimed Trump called her and told her, like, you know, maybe you got to back off the story or whatever. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| If the Macron's were actually trying to stop Candace, likely, I think the most likely scenario is they call the State Department and they say, this is causing us problems in our country and we don't want these tensions. | ||
| And the State Department says, what can we do about it? | ||
| And then all that needs to happen is Emmanuel Macron says, listen, we are telling you to make it stop however you can. | ||
| And if you don't, there's going to be problems. | ||
| And France is massive. | ||
| So it's not like France can control what the United States does, but the U.S. has to negotiate with France, has to cut deals with France, has to work with France and NATO, and they don't want problems. | ||
| And it's stupid. | ||
| So likely what I'd imagine Abbey's State Department says, file a lawsuit, go through the normal route and we'll make sure you win. | ||
| I don't see a reality where Candace goes up against the French government and the U.S. backs her over a NATO ally. | ||
| So here's the thing here. | ||
| Candace Owens is clearly an extremely savvy media operator. | ||
| She is very charismatic. | ||
| Some people would even say she's easy on the eyes. | ||
| She's also a good DEI commentator for right-wingers to put on this sort of pedestal. | ||
| And, you know, it's really unfortunate that she's really willing to peddle bullshit and rumors and spin up fake narratives to try to get clicks. | ||
| It seems it's clear to me that she has an axe to grind. | ||
| I don't think this is just ignorance. | ||
| I think what she knows, she knows that she's spreading stuff that is BS, but she believes it will get her clicks. | ||
| And I believe somebody wronged her in the past and she is trying to avenge that. | ||
| So you think that it's an axe to grind as opposed to just trying to capitalize on what is a hot story? | ||
| It's a few. | ||
| I think it's both. | ||
| And also, this gives her endless amounts of attention. | ||
| This lawsuit may cost her a lot of money, but her husband is allegedly worth over 200 million. | ||
| He has a lot of family money. | ||
| And he's, I believe, allegedly the former CEO of Parlor. | ||
| So, you know, the amount of attention that this is giving her, you know, she knew that this, I don't know if she believes what she's alleging about Bridget McCrone, but I think she does know that it'll bring her a ton of attention. | ||
| It's a transvestigation of obviously like, you know, a very prominent woman, a prominent European leader's wife. | ||
| Do you have evidence that she's a woman? | ||
| Hello. | ||
| The evidence was that, or the evidence that she was a man was from two French bloggers or something, and they just had a couple of pictures of them, of her looking like a man allegedly. | ||
| But I think as far as the media savviness goes, though, if you're trying to get your name out there, you want a lot of to put a lot of bullshit out there and then have them get mad at you and sue you because like this is the Streisand effect at hand. | ||
| And then I think there's also to say something to say about all the other bullshit she peddles because she's been pushing a lot of dumb stuff for a while. | ||
| She actually said Stalin was Jewish. | ||
| I don't know if you guys remember that. | ||
| Lyndon Johnson. | ||
| Something about the frankest. | ||
| I mean, there's a long list of random things. | ||
| Lyndon Johnson was Jewish. | ||
| Listen. | ||
| And then I think she was also a flat earther for a little bit. | ||
| Stalin a pedal, whatever. | ||
| And then, I'm sorry, one last thing. | ||
| She'll get like messages or alleged tips and just, I don't know, won't vet them at all. | ||
| For example, earlier when she said something about like a text message about Andrew Colve allegedly getting money, it's just like, yeah, somebody texted me this. | ||
| And that's like, that's it. | ||
| Well, somebody could text you anything. | ||
| Like, I have a source that says such and such. | ||
| But if there's no vetting. | ||
| I want her number so I can text her about the ice wall. | ||
| Hey, hey, can you text me right now that you think Candace works for Israel so that I can then say on the air, I just received a tip that Candace works for Israel. | ||
| There's no vetting. | ||
| And it's just like some people are dumb enough where the rhetoric, the way she phrases things could come off like to an unmedia savvy person, like, oh, this is convincing. | ||
| This is basic manipulative rhetoric, social engineering, where you say things so that the other person makes an assumption and then you can't be held liable for it. | ||
| And you always have plausible deniability. | ||
| That's the game she's playing. | ||
| That's why everyone keeps pointing out she's making insinuations and then people go, she never said that. | ||
| No, but she said 80 things where the Sudoku puzzle concludes. | ||
| I wish at some point people would think about this from the standpoint of, okay, if somebody was saying this about you, would you think to yourself, oh, well, they didn't say me. | ||
| Or would you think they're obviously implying me? | ||
| And all I want from this, especially because there's a lot of conservatives watching this, is, do we still believe in like standards of truth? | ||
| Do we still believe in like objective standards of truth? | ||
| We are in a post-truth system. | ||
| Not if it confirms my priors. | ||
| If it confirms my priors, then it does not matter if it is. | ||
| But this is the point of vagaries. | ||
| If someone believes five untruths and you come out and say something that is incongruous with their worldview, they reject you. | ||
| But if you say something very vague, let them fill the dots in. | ||
| You're correct. | ||
| And that's how she builds mass audience by being correct to everybody because she's actually not saying anything specific. | ||
| She's letting people fill in the gaps of what they want to believe. | ||
| What I do want to say real quick, though, you know, if I were to say Bridget McCrone's a hog, okay, I can't be sued by the French government for that. | ||
| But when you say that Bridget McCrone's a man, you're getting into defamation per se territory where you're accusing someone of some kind of, it's something disgusting and humiliating, which is inherently in and of itself detrimental to you, your life, or whatever. | ||
| I think she's going to get Alex Jones, but I think they're going to come and they're going to take everything from her. | ||
| I can't understand what she thinks the long-term play is. | ||
| That's why I can't, I can't. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Well, her husband's rich. | ||
| I don't think she's financially secure no matter what happens. | ||
| They're married. | ||
| He's on the hook too. | ||
| They're going to go for him. | ||
| His company's named in the lawsuit. | ||
| I wonder if he presumably they say. | ||
| I wonder if the British government would protect him. | ||
| Aren't they based in the U.S.? | ||
| I don't know what if he's a lord, if he's somehow involved. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know how passionate Kier Starmer is about the peerage in the UK. | ||
| Wouldn't it be really funny if just the UK and France go to war for the first time in like 800 years because Candace called Bridget McCrone a man? | ||
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I think one of the reasons why this is so important. | |
| Yes. | ||
| I think the reason why this is so important is because this actually, I think like conspiracy, driving conspiracies really drives, draws away from people dealing with like legitimate politics that they could have the potential to influence. | ||
| So instead of learning about your local congressperson or what they're doing in the House and Senate or what's going on in the Supreme Court, no, we're paying attention to whether or not Bridget McCrone has a cock or whether or not Charlie Kirk was murdered by Israel. | ||
| Although baselessly, though, that's the problem. | ||
| I have a correction too. | ||
| I should say start the first war in 200 years. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| It hasn't been that long. | ||
| I've actually fought not that long ago. | ||
| But to what you were saying, Elad, this is the point about declining viewership and ad rates. | ||
| Maybe it's fair to say that Candace actually does 10 million because no advertiser really wants to be on a show about Bridget McCrone having a dong. | ||
| Advertisers want to be on normal content. | ||
| They want to be on sports. | ||
| Everybody's watching. | ||
| They're relaxing. | ||
| Nothing's offensive. | ||
| You know, it's just fun stuff. | ||
| And, you know, perhaps when she makes this kind of weird content, she gets more views. | ||
| She does make more money than the average political commentator, but the CPMs are actually still very low. | ||
| The thing that has always struck me about this, I remember when Candace first started making these claims. | ||
| And I was like, okay, you know, like, look, I remember a time where I watched a lot of things Candace was doing and appreciated her commentary and appreciated her contributions to the conservative movement. | ||
| If she's very convinced, I just would like to see substantial evidence to back it up. | ||
| And again, I had really thought, I had really thought that the majority of sympathy in this entire case was going to be for Erica. | ||
| And what has shocked me is I feel like it isn't. | ||
| And again, if you're going to imply, if you're going to insinuate that Erica, if she wasn't directly involved, knew something about it, let it go is hiding truth or whatever it is. | ||
| Just please show me something significant to justify that. | ||
| Because again, I go back to, I think about this from my perspective. | ||
| If somebody did this to my wife after I was gone, I would be furious unless they could actually produce hard evidence. | ||
| The last thing I'll say on this before we go to the next story is she will never be sued by turning point. | ||
| Turning Point USA, oh boy, do they have grounds to sue Candace Owens, but they're not going to. | ||
| They're not going to because the law doesn't work to protect you or any meaningful way. | ||
| Like I've illustrated before that we had someone commit a crime on our property and then threaten us. | ||
| They got arrested and charged. | ||
| And then they threatened to use the legal process through this criminal charge, almost like it was intentional, to exploit it and gain access to private information and other information. | ||
| And they made the argument that in order for our defense, we need access to private information. | ||
| And we were like, okay, drop the charges then. | ||
| We're not going to, we can't. | ||
| And so here's what happens: if Turning Point were to sue Candace Owens, there would be depositions and discovery. | ||
| And they'd be required to turn over certain communications, which I'd imagine are going to be embarrassing. | ||
| And depending on the context, they can be incriminating over certain issues. | ||
| I'm not saying in the killing of Charlie Kirk or anything like that, but there's going to be conversations about donors, things that she will then use on her show. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And it will give her a year's worth of content. | ||
| So they can do nothing about her saying any of this stuff. | ||
| And she'll just keep saying it. | ||
| And the fascinating thing is, she's been able to get more than two months of content out of saying nothing. | ||
| No evidence. | ||
| No real. | ||
| Can we distinguish something? | ||
| Because I hear people the same. | ||
| She brings the receipts. | ||
| She has the evidence. | ||
| Like, okay. | ||
| What? | ||
| Well, let's look at what do you consider to be evidence. | ||
| So if you look at flight logs and you say, these flight legs are interesting. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| You could present that as evidence of what? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, that's what I want. | ||
| I can essentially conjure up just about anything as evidence of something suspicious. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| But there's a big difference between I find this to be suggestive or I find this to be interesting versus this proves X. | ||
| And that's the part that I'm seeing people throw around this word evidence as if it's proof of something that it isn't proof of. | ||
| It might be interesting. | ||
| If you connect certain dots, it may be whatever, but it's not evidence. | ||
| And I guarantee you, nobody here would want to be convicted in a court of law based off of the evidence that has been presented. | ||
| You would be furious. | ||
| You would think it was a huge miscarriage of justice. | ||
| And yet I'm watching people say, well, see? | ||
| I have a question for everyone for all the Candace fans out there. | ||
| It's an honest question. | ||
| And I asked this question a couple of times before, but why is it that she has a huge podcast and she's not getting banned? | ||
| Nick Fuentes got banned on Spotify, not her. | ||
| She's number one. | ||
| She's on the front page of YouTube recommendations for everybody who subscribes. | ||
| She gets millions of views. | ||
| She gets massive live viewership. | ||
| I thought it's, you know, it's actually her own words that if you criticize Israel, you'll get suspended, banned, and censored, but not her. | ||
| Why is it that the person who claims that Charlie was betrayed is actually the one trying to destroy his legacy and the company that he built? | ||
| Turning point, you know, Andrew Colvette and Erica and the rest, you know, Tyler Boyer and the rest of them at Turning Point are fighting as hard as they can to keep Turning Point alive. | ||
| You don't got to like Turning Point. | ||
| I'm not saying they're good or great. | ||
| I mean, they were under Charlie. | ||
| I think they were fantastic as to where they are. | ||
| Now, like, we'll see what happens. | ||
| Obviously, we're not going to be there. | ||
| So, you know, I'm not, it's not like I've got, I'm happy with the direction it's going, but she's actively trying to destroy Charlie Kirk's legacy. | ||
| So the question is: who really betrayed Charlie Kirk? | ||
| Because if Charlie were still around, like, if Charlie could speak, do you think he'd be like, oh, gee, thanks, Candace. | ||
| Thank you for telling all the donors to abandon Turning Point USA. | ||
| Well, here's my, here's my, I'll put it differently. | ||
| Candace Owens, based off of what she's done here and what she's been, you know, putting out there, Candace Owens, there's only one of two possible options. | ||
| She is either Charlie Kirk's greatest friend who stood up to everybody when they called her a liar or they called her psycho, that she was, she is either that or she is a horrible betraying villain in this story. | ||
| What about that one? | ||
| That's maybe so, but you see what I'm saying? | ||
| That's the point. | ||
| I'm seeing a lot of people analyze this. | ||
| It's like, wait a second, no, no, no. | ||
| If you look at the claims that she's made, it's one of the two. | ||
| It's one of the two. | ||
| It really breaks down on one issue, though. | ||
| I feel like. | ||
| I feel like if you have a how you feel about one particular issue really prescribes how you, whether or not you think she is a villain or not. | ||
| I don't even need to say the issue, but you could tell she's laser-focused on it and she'll drag it into everything else. | ||
| So it really begs the question because she used to have a great relationship with the Daily Wire and Ben Shapiro, and then that had to figure out for one reason or another. | ||
| And the same thing with Turning Point. | ||
| She hasn't been to MFest for years, as I understand. | ||
| She hasn't been a speaker or collaborating with Turning Point for years before this happened. | ||
| You have to wonder, you know, what made that fall through? | ||
| And maybe something. | ||
| Right, but let's just put it like this. | ||
| I mean, she had, what was it? | ||
| Originally, she was like a liberal and she had a doxing site and she left her conservatives and she got criticized for that. | ||
| But everybody can change, right? | ||
| Then she had Red Pill Black and Blexit. | ||
| She starts working with the Daily Wire and then has a falling out with them. | ||
| Then she starts, while she's been working at Turning Point at the same time, she has a falling out with them. | ||
| Then I believe it was the end of 23, she stops doing formal events for them, remaining Charlie's friend. | ||
| My opinion on everything as it went down is that the reason Charlie stayed friends with Candace was diplomacy. | ||
| It's actually quite simple. | ||
| Charlie was very intelligent and he built a coalition and he brought a bunch of different factions together under one umbrella. | ||
| So when he's texting with Candace and saying, yeah, you know, Ben, oh man, I know exactly how he is. | ||
| He's trying to stop her from raging, from crashing out and causing problems and doing what she's doing now. | ||
| So Charlie, she's basically removed from Turning Point. | ||
| She's no longer involved for the most part, but Charlie stays in context saying, Listen, like, we're friends. | ||
| Please don't hurt me. | ||
| Now that Charlie's gone, she's like, I will destroy everything Charlie has ever built. | ||
| Let me just stress this. | ||
| There is no excuse. | ||
| If you like Charlie Kirk and the work that he did, telling everyone to pull their donations is simply to destroy the organization. | ||
| By all means, you can be angry with Colvette and maybe Erica's leadership, whatever you might think. | ||
| Maybe you think someone else should come in and run it. | ||
| But the response should be: donors should all email and ask for new leadership, not destroy it and pull all your money out, which burns Charlie's legacy to the ground. | ||
| I think if there's anyone who betrayed Charlie Kirk, it is Candace Owens, and she has proven it time and time again. | ||
| Well, like you said, it would be one thing if you said, Here's all the evidence, donors pull your money. | ||
| That would be one thing. | ||
| But it's, I've got a bunch of evidence. | ||
| I'm going to do it later. | ||
| But donors, pull all your money right now. | ||
| Before I can prove it. | ||
| It's like, wait, look at the consequences of conservative DEI. | ||
| And we're reaping what we sowed. | ||
| Yeah, but I'll say it again. | ||
| I mean, Candace is very smart. | ||
| I mean, look, man. | ||
| Conniving, but I guess she could be both at the same time. | ||
| I'm going to tell a story that's going to get me in trouble. | ||
| I don't think I told the story before. | ||
| I'm going to tell a story that's going to get me in trouble. | ||
| All right, let's get in trouble. | ||
| I worked for Vice, and they were always trying to get this cable channel. | ||
| I had gotten some people hired there who were friends of mine who understood social media and live streaming. | ||
| And I ended up leaving the company, but news broke that Vice had gotten a Rogers telecom deal or teleco, whatever the word is. | ||
| This is a Canadian cable channel. | ||
| And congratulations to Vice at the time. | ||
| This is back in like 2014 or something. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| And so my buddy hits me up and he's, you know, how things are going, you know, because I left the company and he says, it's great. | ||
| I'm going to be doing production for the news show on the cable channel. | ||
| And I went, really? | ||
| And he's like, yeah. | ||
| And I was like, really, though? | ||
| I mean, you're not going to stay where you're at working on, you know, like domestic news, live stream stuff. | ||
| And he's like, no, no, I'm going to be doing the news stuff for the cable channel. | ||
| I was like, so are they going to move you to Toronto or what? | ||
| And he goes, why would I move to Toronto? | ||
| And then I said, for the cable channel. | ||
| And he goes, why would I move to Toronto? | ||
| And I said, because it's a Rogers Telecom deal for a cable channel. | ||
| He goes, dude, what are you talking about? | ||
| I said, the cable channel's in Canada. | ||
| So here's what happened. | ||
| He told me that Shane Smith, the CEO, held a meeting. | ||
| They had been having conversations throughout the year that they were working on getting a cable channel and it was their big dream to get a cable channel. | ||
| And everyone makes an assumption when you hear that, which is what, that he has to move to Canada? | ||
| No, When someone says, I want to start a cable channel, what do you immediately think? | ||
| In America. | ||
| Oh, yes. | ||
| Nobody thinks New Zealand. | ||
| So Shane comes out. | ||
| And the story I was told that he comes, he's got all the employees there and he says, We did it. | ||
| We got our cable channel. | ||
| Everyone starts cheering and screaming. | ||
| They immediately start working on production, all under the assumption that they made that he meant we got our American cable channel. | ||
| So my friend that I helped get hired is now going like, I didn't know that. | ||
| And I said, well, you know what's going to happen? | ||
| If you go to him and say, I don't want to go to Canada, he's going to say, I never said it was in America. | ||
| That's the manipulative language that you use to keep people in line. | ||
| You let them believe what they want so they feel good about what's going on. | ||
| Because if he came out and said, guys, we didn't get the American cable channel. | ||
| We do have a slow start, though. | ||
| 30 million households in Canada through Rogers Telecom, people would go, that sucks. | ||
| Instead, he says, we did it. | ||
| It. | ||
| What does it refer to? | ||
| That's the manipulative language used by powerful people. | ||
| This is what Candace does. | ||
| So when she comes on her show and says, they betrayed Charlie, she's already said it feels like an inside job. | ||
| So what else could she be insinuating? | ||
| And then her diehards with fifth-grade reading levels are like, I am going to fill the dots whatever I want to be true. | ||
| So insert whether it's France or Israel or Turning Point or the CIA or the Deep State or Netanyahu himself. | ||
| It was really funny. | ||
| I had a guy tell me this over the weekend. | ||
| I couldn't tell. | ||
| He looked like he might have been Pakistani or something, but he said the Shapiros killed Charlie. | ||
| Candace, he said, Candace is right. | ||
| He's like, I love her show. | ||
| The Shapiros did it. | ||
| And I said, I'm not kidding. | ||
| I was like, the Shapiros? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I was like, one of Ben's kids, right? | ||
| I was like, he didn't. | ||
| No, he didn't mean Ben's family. | ||
| He meant Ben's extended family. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But enough of this. | ||
| Let's talk about some of the things that we're talking about to third worldists. | ||
| Literally. | ||
| Let's jump to this inane story from NBC News. | ||
| Sabrina Carpenter slams the White House for using her song in evil and disgusting social media video. | ||
| Okay, let's play the evil and disgusting social media. | ||
| I wasn't probably going to watch it, but I want to see it. | ||
| Let's go. | ||
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Have you ever tried this one? | |
| I've never tried. | ||
| This one, I've never tried. | ||
| This one. | ||
| I know you want my touch for life. | ||
| The White House. | ||
| Is that it? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Okay, so she's salty. | ||
| Where's the response? | ||
| She said, This video is evil and disgusting. | ||
| Do not ever involve me or my music to benefit your inhumane agenda. | ||
| She got 834,000 likes. | ||
| Bro, if I've ever seen a ratio, this is the ratio. | ||
| I mean, she's got 126,000 retweets, 834,000 likes. | ||
| And I got to be honest, the White House, they try to do a lot of these memes, but they're getting pretty cringe. | ||
| I disagree. | ||
| I think the White House edits have been crazy, especially that Theo Vaughn one, which he was also very big. | ||
| No, no, no, the Franklin one. | ||
| Those, but to be honest, he didn't make that one up. | ||
| Have you seen the new Franklin that are going, the Franklins are going viral? | ||
| Franklin's the new Pepe. | ||
| My favorite one is Franklin. | ||
| What is it? | ||
| It's like Franklin grows tired of immigrants acting And he's sitting there all like angry. | ||
| And it's like a Mexican fox and like an Arab squirrel or something. | ||
| Carno Bear Cub. | ||
| I went over to the Franklin's page on X and they were talking about how they're really big on inclusivity and the whole deal, but then they shut off their comments to only people that they allow you to like, oh, you're not that inclusive. | ||
| A lot of people are talking, or she's talking about how it's evil or how it's immoral and whatever. | ||
| And Sabrina Carpenter has used a lot of what people would consider sacrilegious imagery and stuff. | ||
| It's a little pot calling the kettle black. | ||
| She doesn't like the White House used it when it comes to enforcing immigration law, but she's perfectly comfortable with insulting Christians and get a rise out of people. | ||
| Here are the memes that work. | ||
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Celebrates kill those days. | |
| Oh my gosh. | ||
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I never thought I'd like a Canadian cartoon this much. | |
| Yep. | ||
| Let me try and find some more of these. | ||
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Bear on Christmas. | |
| Kill those days. | ||
| Beautiful. | ||
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Oh, man. | |
| Okay, here's the best one. | ||
| Franklin grows tired of immigrants and their behavior. | ||
| The Baron of Burka. | ||
| You know what I really love about these, though, as I was pointing out earlier, is that no one knows what turtles look like. | ||
| It's like he's wearing the shell. | ||
| People need to understand the shell is its spine. | ||
| Turtles are like the shell is their spine. | ||
| They are not wearing the shell. | ||
| I guess people watch too much ninja turtles. | ||
| Yeah, they do. | ||
| In their behavior. | ||
| They think that they can actually go inside the shell. | ||
| Look, Ninja Turtles was a documentary. | ||
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Wait a minute. | |
| What's the one with Trump giving Franklin the presidential? | ||
| Yeah, it's because Logan Hall responded to Kids Can Press, who owns Franklin, saying, sorry, but Franklin belongs to us now. | ||
| Look at the, why is the fox a Mexican? | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| See, he's like Mexican. | ||
| And then you've got this beaver. | ||
| What is this? | ||
| Is this like Sikh? | ||
| Yeah, that's what I thought. | ||
| But then what is this squirrel? | ||
| Oh, yeah, maybe the squirrel. | ||
| Just a regular turban? | ||
| Just a regular turban. | ||
| And then there's a Muslim bear cub with a briefcase for some reason. | ||
| It's impressive that you noticed that one as a Sikh. | ||
| There was a Republican congressman who just thought all Sikhs were also Muslims. | ||
| It's cultural nuance that you have there. | ||
| That's actually a really sad, very well-known story of a Sikh man who was murdered for 9-11. | ||
| Where was that? | ||
| It was like New Mexico or something, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He was just like, mind him was a bit someone thought he was a Muslim and killed him. | ||
| That's crazy, dude. | ||
| That's horrifying. | ||
| Stupid people. | ||
| Unfortunate. | ||
| We got angry Baron Stain Bears. | ||
| Here's one. | ||
| Franklin Lawrence. | ||
| Oh, Franklin's been radicalized. | ||
| He has been. | ||
| How is he wearing, look at the coat. | ||
| How is he wearing that coat? | ||
| The shell is hanging like a backpack. | ||
| Can you suspend reality just a little bit? | ||
| Just suspend disbelief a little bit. | ||
| Immigrants were learning there too about Floyd's autopsy. | ||
| So I guess the White House responded to Sabrina Carpenter. | ||
| They called her stupid. | ||
| Is that all they? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| What did they post? | ||
| They posted on the White House or something? | ||
| I believe it was a big, long post, too. | ||
| Look, if you're going to reply, if you're going to clap back, it can't be long. | ||
| It can't be some big multiple paragraph reply. | ||
| It's not a dissertation. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's why your mom works so your mom. | ||
| I got to say, I've been pretty impressed with DHS and their troll game has been pretty good. | ||
| I think it's fun. | ||
| There are a lot of people that are all kinds of offended because they say that it's beneath the White House, et cetera. | ||
| But nobody was complaining when Barack Obama was slowjamming the news on late night every chance that he got. | ||
| Yeah, I'm kind of over the, I'm offended by this. | ||
| Like, oh, okay. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| You're offended by everything. | ||
| My response is more so like, ah, I'll do it more often then. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, whatever I got to do. | ||
| Thank you for telling the trolls. | ||
| I can't even find their responses. | ||
| Do we have it? | ||
| It was from Abigail. | ||
| She's a spokesperson. | ||
| Oh, so she responded. | ||
| She responded. | ||
| Abigail Jackson, the White House spokesperson. | ||
| From her account? | ||
| I believe from her Twitter account. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Yeah, labeled Carpenter. | ||
| Stupid in a statement. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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| I don't know. | ||
| It's not even worth, you can't even find it. | ||
| Like, that's how that's how insignificant the responses was. | ||
| Like I said, clapbacks. | ||
| Clapbacks have to be short, concise. | ||
| That's why your mom works so well. | ||
| Like, look, if the White House just replied, if the White House reply with your mom, everybody would be like, boy, you know, it would have been a much better reply. | ||
| Look, I think they like this as a distraction. | ||
| I think posting memes and like Sabrina Carpenter's response got more millions of impressions than anything else I think that the White House put out today. | ||
| So I think they utilize this as a good distraction when they need one. | ||
| But they are putting out fire memes. | ||
| The DHS and White House Twitter account runners probably need a raise. | ||
| And that's that new frontier that they fight on online, the meme wars. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, look, it does matter, right? | ||
| I mean, there is an argument to be made that Donald Trump got memed into the White House in 2016. | ||
| All the people online that were constantly flooding social media and stuff with pro-Donald Trump memes really did have an effect on popular culture and the way that people perceived Donald Trump. | ||
| You know, it's funny is were you at the Pentagon today, Elad? | ||
| No, I was at Congress. | ||
| Ah, okay. | ||
| So all these news reports popped up where they were like, you know, Tim Poole and Laura Loomer and Jack Pesobic are at the Pentagon today. | ||
| And I'm like, I'm not at the Pentagon. | ||
| It's all fake. | ||
| It's all fake. | ||
| Peanut butter and jelly. | ||
| Peanut butter and jelly. | ||
| Shout out to my best friend in the poker room, Ken, because he was asking about this. | ||
| You signed that pledge for Trump. | ||
| And I was like, I filled out a press application so I can go to the Pentagon one time to do a podcast one time because sometimes people interview other people. | ||
| Like it is crazy that the perception they created in the press over the Pentagon thing is that we were all signing a loyalty pledge to the president when I was literally like, hey, guys, why don't we try and do, why don't we try and book Pete Hegseth? | ||
| And then they came back with, he can't because he's working all the time from the Pentagon. | ||
| And then one of the people who's been on the show that we know said, maybe we can find space for you guys to come and do the show in the Pentagon. | ||
| That would be cool. | ||
| I said, okay. | ||
| Then the team came back and said, we have to get press passes so that we can come in and do the show. | ||
| And I was like, okay, well, if we're going to have Pete Heggs on the show to talk about all this stuff, that'd be amazing because like having a direct access to the Secretary of War is tremendous. | ||
| There's a lot of questions we'll have. | ||
| And we'll even, we've got friends with a lot of questions. | ||
| Scott Horde will get questions from him and Dave, and we could have these here. | ||
| And so I said, let's fill out the thing. | ||
| Next thing I know, the media is like Tim Poole and the right-wing puppets showing up at the Pentagon to steal our spaces. | ||
| As if they were like, you know, falling over themselves to get access to these seats before, you know, alternative media got the opportunity. | ||
| Like they thought that those seats were theirs. | ||
| I remember when the White House correspondents or the press room in the White House, you know, a lot got in there and other people from alternative media got in there. | ||
| And they were behaving as if something that they owned had been taken from them. | ||
| And it was an affront to journalism, you know, in its entirety that someone that they disapproved of was there asking questions of the White House. | ||
| And it's that, what's the word I'm looking for? | ||
| It's elitist. | ||
| They believe. | ||
| Elitist. | ||
| Yeah, definitely elitist. | ||
| But, you know, they believed that the access to the president or to the White House was theirs and it wasn't for anyone else. | ||
| It wasn't something that any other journalists should have access to. | ||
| Well, they had been allowed to operate that way for decades. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, I was shocked when I first learned who got to decide who was in the White House because I'd always assumed it must be the White House. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| It was this incredibly far-left organization that essentially had the authority to decide who made it and who did it. | ||
| And when Trump came in and said, yeah, we're not going to give a far-left organization the ability to gatekeep access to the White House, they just infuriate. | ||
| How dare you? | ||
| This is because they are journalism. | ||
| Well, ultimately, it's these people feel entitled to it, to put it a little bit more succinctly. | ||
| But to be clear, they have reason to be upset because I don't sympathize with them. | ||
| The reason that they get upset is because it's zero sum. | ||
| Access is zero sum there. | ||
| Caroline Levitt or Press Secretary Kingsley at the Department of War, they're only going to give so many questions. | ||
| Pete Hegseth is only going to give Department of War, Secretary of War, Pete Hegseth. | ||
| I want to practice putting in the titles while I say all these guys' names. | ||
| Pete Franklin overwhelmed the Costco. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Oh, my mustaches, though. | ||
| It's funny because a lot is giving some poignant, astute speech. | ||
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| And Nick and I are just busting out laughing as I pull this meme. | ||
| It says, Franklin is overwhelmed at Costco. | ||
| And it's just Franklin looking scared, surrounded by a bunch of Indian people. | ||
| Poor Franklin. | ||
| But there's, if you look in the this one, probably leads into the one that's in there now that I just posted in there. | ||
| You just sent one to me. | ||
| Is it going to get us in trouble? | ||
| See, this is what first happens, and then that's what you get. | ||
| See, he gets radicalized by going to Costco. | ||
| Look at the monkey in the fox. | ||
| They're filming it on that cell. | ||
| So for those that are just listening, it says Franklin gets a new job. | ||
| And he's a masked DSA agent arresting What's Her Face? | ||
| Dora the Explorer the Explorer. | ||
| I drew a map back home. | ||
| Imagine all the things they're going to find in her backpack. | ||
| Not immigration papers. | ||
| Do you guys remember when Marvel tried making it was called the New Mutants? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And they had Safe Space and Snowflake. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| And there was a fat female Hispanic character who had a backpack and her superpowers that she could pull any item out of it. | ||
| And it's just like, that's just Dora. | ||
| Well, yeah, it's Dora. | ||
| But it's also the bag was a ripoff of the bag of holding from DD. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| She's just a DD character arc. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Trying to learn how to speak Spanish, I guess. | ||
| Nothing's new. | ||
| Why does a monkey have a cell phone? | ||
| The fox, I get. | ||
| He'll speak. | ||
| He swiped it. | ||
| Yeah, the fox stole the swiper. | ||
| He swipe it. | ||
| He swiped it from Dora. | ||
| I'll swipe whatever I want now, Dora. | ||
| Somebody put in a call. | ||
| That was actually the, yeah, the monkey called. | ||
| The fox is definitely the way it is. | ||
| That's why they're definitely called it. | ||
| Franklin's the new Pepe. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is amazing. | ||
| Franklin. | ||
| I love that grows tired. | ||
| What is it? | ||
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| Franklin learns about George Floyd's autopsy. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Oh, Franklin. | ||
| Look how upset he looks. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Did you riot for no reason, Franklin? | ||
| Maybe you should not have done that. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Shucks. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Let's talk about news, I guess. | ||
| No more laughing. | ||
| We got this from the Postmillennial. | ||
| Pentagon says all options are on the table for the investigation into Mark Kelly over seditious six video. | ||
| Now, here's what really matters. | ||
| From the Postman, Pentagon says WAPO falsely attributed quotes to Hegseth that he never said in a report on September drug boat strike. | ||
| This is actually a report in the New York Times. | ||
| I want to pull up the New York Times for all the libs out there. | ||
| This was crazy to watch the New York Times fact check the Washington. | ||
| It was lib-on-lib violence. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So the New York Times basically Have countered what the Washington Post reported saying, Hagseth ordered a lethal attack, but not the killing of survivors, officials say. | ||
| The reason why this is important is that the Washington Post put out the claim that Hag Seth basically said double tap. | ||
| That he said, kill the narco-terrorists, blow them up. | ||
| After he did, they claimed that they were staring at survivors clinging to boats, and he said, Finish them off, which would be a war crime, survivors. | ||
| You capture him, right? | ||
| Well, the New York Times was like, We talked to five different people independently of each other, and they all confirmed Hagseth gave one order, struck the boats, and then left. | ||
| Why then did the Washington Post lie? | ||
| They are fomenting civil war. | ||
| I am not saying that lightly. | ||
| And all of the people chuckling and saying, ha ha, time to drink, stop. | ||
| You're allowed to have fun, but I want to make this point because it is very terrifying. | ||
| I have explained throughout the whole year, they have been saying that all of Trump's orders are illegal. | ||
| They have terrified men and women in uniform. | ||
| They have said when they take power back, they will arrest you for following Trump's orders. | ||
| The Washington Post now put out a story claiming that Hag Seth authorized a war crime. | ||
| They ordered the war crime. | ||
| They want you in the military to question whether or not you can actually follow these orders. | ||
| Mark Kelly then went on, meet the press, and said, They can tell when the orders are illegal. | ||
| You've got these billboards popping up all over the place saying, Not what you signed up for. | ||
| Communicate with us discreetly using encryption to avoid the risk. | ||
| Risk of what? | ||
| So when Mark Kelly is coming out and saying, Don't follow illegal orders, this is overt calls for civil war. | ||
| And I want to make sure this is very, I want to very much define and clarify this. | ||
| There is never going to be a circumstance in modern warfare where someone trying to ignite a military coup goes on TV and says, I am calling on the military to engage in a military coup against the president. | ||
| Now is the time. | ||
| Let's take the seat of the White House. | ||
| Because regular people will get freaked out by it. | ||
| If you wanted to actually stage a coup, this is how you would do it in modern warfare. | ||
| You would have your media allies come out and say, Trump is doing illegal things. | ||
| You would make up fake stories to terrify and shatter the confidence of our military. | ||
| And then you'd have politicians come out and say, you can tell if it's illegal and you must disobey. | ||
| That's where we're at. | ||
| I guarantee you, with those billboards that have been popping up since October, there are already men and women in uniform who have been in contact with these organizations and have already made vows to defy the chain of command. | ||
| So when people ask, How would a civil war ever happen in this country? | ||
| The military is not going to turn on itself. | ||
| It makes me want to just bash my face in the table because in 2018, when I first started talking about the prospect of civil war, the first question was, why would anyone at the federal government be fighting each other? | ||
| It's a uniparty. | ||
| They're all aligned with each. | ||
| Now we can see what's happening. | ||
| They prosecute Donald Trump. | ||
| In 2018, nobody believed Trump would be arrested. | ||
| It's never happened. | ||
| It could never happen. | ||
| And then Trump got arrested, what, twice? | ||
| Three times. | ||
| Then all of a sudden, it was like, oh, wow, that happened, but it won't go. | ||
| It won't escalate again. | ||
| So back in 2018, people would say to me, the federal government is never going to allow this kind of fighting because they're too powerful and they control everything. | ||
| Well, now the federal government is fighting itself. | ||
| And now we're seeing, and people said, yeah, well, they're fighting each other, but how would the military ever line up against the military? | ||
| That'll never happen. | ||
| Then we saw in Texas, the Texas Guard versus the feds over the border dispute. | ||
| And now we're seeing Chris Murphy say, pick an effing side. | ||
| And Trump's not getting free pass on this one when he said sedition is punishable by death. | ||
| Like, this is all lining things up. | ||
| I would not be surprised if we were a year away. | ||
| I'm not saying it will happen. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But if a year from now, we see Gavinism come out and say, I am seizing full control of the California National Guard, and I'm ordering all members of the Guard to defy federal court orders to obey Donald Trump. | ||
| He is engaged in unlawful actions. | ||
| You are hereby ordered to defy those actions. | ||
| I wouldn't be surprised if that happens. | ||
| He's already threatened to arrest DHS ICE for wearing masks. | ||
| We're already seeing criminal prosecution threats in Illinois and Oregon. | ||
| It is all happening before our eyes. | ||
| I think the only move Trump has right now, and I don't think he'll do it because with all due respect, they don't have the balls to do it. | ||
| I think they need to be arrested. | ||
| I think they need to be charged under 18 USC 2387. | ||
| I believe that Outfront and Lamar advertising should be fined for criminal violations of 18 USC 2387. | ||
| And I believe that they need to go out and actually make arrests under this. | ||
| Otherwise, it just gets worse. | ||
| Do you have the clip of how she actually responded? | ||
| Because I watched this full briefing and I thought she did it. | ||
| You mentioned working with partners on the Hill. | ||
| Another senator on the Hill, the Democrat side, is Senator Mark Kelly. | ||
| Now, we heard some reporting about a possible investigation into him regarding his status as a retired member of the United States Navy, still on pension, and therefore still under the jurisdiction of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. | ||
| And as such, his membership, you mentioned the seditious six. | ||
| Would that be grounds for possibly bringing him back to active service for an investigation for NJP or even a full court martial? | ||
| So you're correct. | ||
| The Department of War received serious allegations of misconduct against Senator Mark Kelly. | ||
| And in accordance with the Uniform Code of Military Justice and other applicable recommendations and regulations, we're doing a thorough review of all of these allegations. | ||
| And the Secretary of War has tasked the Secretary of the Navy, John Phelan, with doing a thorough review, looking into all of these allegations and providing him an update on December 10th. | ||
| So we will have more information to come on that. | ||
| But I would just add that this despicable video that Mark Kelly participated in with the seditious six was a politically motivated influence operation that was an attempt to undermine the chain of command to sow distrust and division in our armed forces. | ||
| That is absolutely ridiculous, and it puts our warfighters at risk. | ||
| And again, he doubled down on the Sunday shows. | ||
| I don't know if you all saw him on the Sunday shows, but he basically insinuated that service members who do not defy President Trump's orders could face potential prosecution in the future when Democrats are back in power. | ||
| He even called our troops and likened them to those of the Russian military. | ||
| This is totally disgraceful from an elected official. | ||
| And the department takes it very seriously, and that is why we have launched this review. | ||
| And just to be clear, so if Secretary Phelan were to recommend court martial, that would be on the board. | ||
| What was the question? | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| If Secretary Phelan were to recommend court martial, that could be an option on the table. | ||
| All options are on the table at this moment in time. | ||
| And we look forward to getting the Secretary of the Navy's review. | ||
| And the Secretary of War has been very clear in his statements as well Well, that he takes this extremely seriously and it is unacceptable. | ||
| I want to pull up the law for all the yells so you can see. | ||
| I'm not playing around. | ||
| This is illegal. | ||
| This is 18 USC 2387. | ||
| It's, well, let me pull up the penalty for it. | ||
| Does it have the penalty in here? | ||
| It doesn't. | ||
| Oh, it doesn't. | ||
| I'm sorry, 10 years. | ||
| And let's see, or fined or imprisoned not more than 10 years. | ||
| Whoever with the intent to interfere with, impair, or influence the loyalty morale or discipline of the military or naval force of the United States, one, advises, counsels, urges, or in any manner causes or attempts to cause insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, or refusal of duty by any member of the military naval force of the United States, or distributes or attempts to distribute any written or printed matter which advises, counsels, or urges insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, or refusal of duty by any member of the military naval force of the United States, | ||
| shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 10 years or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department of agency thereof or agency thereof for the next five years following his conviction. | ||
| So this is illegal. | ||
| And I'm pretty sure when you have a website that instructs you to reduce risk by using encrypted communications because you're questioning what you signed up for, this falls perfectly under 18 USC 2387, Section A, subsection 2, and 1 falls perfectly, and Mark Kelly's actions fall under one, Section A, subsection 1, perfectly. | ||
| They need to be criminally charged. | ||
| If they are not, this will keep getting worse. | ||
| If you do not use your power, you lose it. | ||
| And if the DOJ is unwilling to bring an indictment, this is a slam dunk, by the way. | ||
| If they're unwilling to do it, Democrats are going to keep, they're going to entrench this worldview. | ||
| They're going to expand their efforts. | ||
| And by then, it will be too late because the military will be scared. | ||
| There's going to be some young guys in the military. | ||
| And they heard Mark Kelly say, if Democrats win, they're going to prison. | ||
| So they're going to say, Trump, you have to win because I don't want to go to prison. | ||
| And Trump's going to go, I can't do anything about it. | ||
| And they're going to say, then I'm with them. | ||
| Because if you will not use power, we know they will. | ||
| So if Trump doesn't do it, the military is going to immediately defect and go to the people willing to crush them. | ||
| That's why in Venezuela, you are able to suppress the people who are fighting against communism. | ||
| Because the military is told, we'll kill you if you defy us, but we'll feed you if you work with us. | ||
| And so people are like, okay, it's better to be a soldier well-fed and fat and happy in Venezuela than one of these impoverished poor people suffering under socialism. | ||
| The military's got two choices. | ||
| Are they going to follow the chain of command as they signed up to, or are they going to follow the defectors under the Democrats? | ||
| Well, the reality is, if Trump isn't going to do anything, they're going to say, look, they got a gun to my head and you won't stop them. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, look, I do still, I'm still of the opinion that the government is being very precautious about any kind of any kind of legal action they take. | ||
| But I do think that this is pretty clear. | ||
| And I would like to see, you know, see something come from the investigation. | ||
| I think, so I'm always, again, my background was unconventional warfare, counterinsurgency. | ||
| That's what we did as Green Berets. | ||
| I'm always cautious of the idea of the whole Alinsky rule that their action is our reaction. | ||
| And there is something to be said for perp walking somebody out who's then going to claim that I was just, I was simply repeating what the law is. | ||
| You're obligated to not follow unlawful orders. | ||
| Show me exactly where I violated this by telling service members that they don't have to follow lawful orders. | ||
| Is that not true? | ||
| Is that not in the Uniform Code of Military Justice? | ||
| That's going to be their claim. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so the question is, what do you have that truly is the slam duck? | ||
| I understand the implication. | ||
| And the thing, the thing, again, there's two things about this that really piss me off. | ||
| The first one is that I am so sick and tired of watching these former members of the military sit there and hold up their prior service and the oath we swore to the Constitution. | ||
| Well, will that include the First Amendment, Second Amendment, Ninth Amendment, 10th Amendment, Article 1, Section 8? | ||
| Because I've noticed you don't seem to care about those things. | ||
| My wife said it best. | ||
| She goes, Democrats quote the Constitution the way atheists quote the Bible. | ||
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| Yep. | ||
| Right? | ||
| There's no real commitment to it. | ||
| It's the restriction on you, not them. | ||
| Where were anything? | ||
| I mean, they're all saying now, we need you guys in the military. | ||
| We need you. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I remember when the guys in the military needed these guys when they were getting kicked out of the military by Eugene Vinman because they didn't want to take an experimental vaccine. | ||
| Or the people who got kicked out because they had Gadsden flags on their Facebook profile. | ||
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| Or a member of the Virginia National Guard that I'm trying to help right now that not only got kicked out, but barred from re-enlistment, demoted. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because, well, he belonged to a local militia. | ||
| The local militia was actually sanctioned by their local sheriff's department and actually helped them engage in things like first responder activities. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And they knew about it for four years, sent this guy to soldier of the year to represent the Virginia National Guard. | ||
| And now they kicked him out. | ||
| That's super frustrating that you say that because there's a lot of people will do things. | ||
| They'll sign up to help their local fire departments. | ||
| They'll sign up to help their local sheriff's departments. | ||
| They're like, I'm a volunteer. | ||
| And the government absolutely will look at people and say, well, I don't like his politics. | ||
| He's in this organization. | ||
| He's in this group. | ||
| And he's, you know, whatever. | ||
| He's pro-2A or whatever. | ||
| So we're going to say that he's a member of some kind of militia or something. | ||
| And they'll target it to one individual. | ||
| They won't go after the whole group. | ||
| No. | ||
| And so there's that, right? | ||
| That aspect of it, where it's these guys are holding up their former service as justification for what they're doing now. | ||
| When we all, none of us are convinced that these guys actually care about the Constitution. | ||
| The other thing that pisses me off is exactly what you said before. | ||
| It's this idea of you can't follow unlawful orders. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| So, Mark, Senator Kelly, show me which order is unlawful. | ||
| Oh, you don't have one. | ||
| Oh, it's just a friendly reminder. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| What you did was you threatened them. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Because it's the whole idea of how do you know it's an unlawful order? | ||
| Well, it's pretty easy when you look at the Uniform Code of Military Justice in order to decipher between a lawful order and an unlawful order. | ||
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| But the fact that he said we'll go after the people that follow, this is the part where it gets into a much grayer area. | ||
| Because when you have service members that now have to execute on orders fighting terrorism or something like that, now it's the whole idea of, am I going to, is there going to be a future regime, a future Congress, a future president, a future attorney general that's going to come in and now determine three years after the fact, oh, you know, that order that you executed, which by the way, JAG cleared off on at the time that you did it. | ||
| Because especially when you're talking about this, I've explained this before. | ||
| I've seen this. | ||
| This is not the sort of thing where random guys are just going out there deciding who they want to drone for fun. | ||
| It's not some random captain saying, oh, yeah, let's go kill that guy. | ||
| That's not how this works. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| What you actually have when you have a common operating picture and you have a talk, you have a tactical control area, and you are actually blessing off on this stuff where it's like, okay, in S2, S3, right? | ||
| JAG. | ||
| Like, yep, good to go. | ||
| Good to go. | ||
| Good to go. | ||
| Okay, now I execute it. | ||
| Now Mark Kelly comes in and decides after the fact that was an unlawful order and we're punishing you as well. | ||
| And your enlisted guys are listening to, you know, you mentioned JAG. | ||
| Those guys are officers. | ||
| They're lawyers. | ||
| They've gone to law school and they clear it. | ||
| And so these enlisted dudes, these E4s, E5s, E6s, they do what they're told. | ||
| And then Mark Kelly's coming and threatening them and essentially saying, look, we're going to hold you responsible if you violate the law, if you violate your oath to the Constitution. | ||
| And it's as murky and as ambiguous. | ||
| He makes it as murky and as ambiguous as possible. | ||
| Even though these guys got the okay, the thumbs up from, like you said, the military lawyers that have gone over this from tip to butt. | ||
| They're like, yep, this is all good. | ||
| You're 100% right. | ||
| It's infuriating to see. | ||
| I agree with everything you guys just said, but I feel as though we're speaking a little bit too much in the abstract. | ||
| So I wanted to add details to what we're actually talking about here. | ||
| So originally, the Washington Post put out an article saying that Pete Hegseth ordered a strike on an alleged Venezuelan drug boat. | ||
| He said, allegedly said, kill them all, and then allegedly ordered the follow-up strike. | ||
| I believe that's what it says in the Washington Post article. | ||
| The New York Times came out with a new article that says Pete Hegseth only was involved in the initial strike, as I understand, and didn't allegedly give them one order. | ||
| He ordered a lethal strike, but not killing of the survivors. | ||
| And then Pete Hegseth, Secretary of War Hegseth, alleges that it's Admiral Bradley who eventually sent the follow-up kinetic strike. | ||
| And now, Senator Mark Kelly is saying that that could potentially, if it truly happened the way that the Washington Post is alleging, that that could be a war crime. | ||
| So I guess Mark Kelly is also saying that, therefore, if that is the case, then, and you are following the chain of command, you will still be held liable if these are unlawful orders. | ||
| I guess on that part particularly, what do you think about, based on the reporting that we've seen, if that's, you know, could that, would you interpret that as a war crime? | ||
| The point of this is not to actually claim there's a war crime. | ||
| It's to tell an enlisted guy who doesn't know left or right on the legal matters, we are coming for you. | ||
| If Trump tells you to do something and you do it, we are coming for you. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| And it harms our military readiness because now all of our soldiers need to think twice. | ||
| This is the decisions you're making potentially going to compromise you in the future. | ||
| But I think there are two issues at hand there. | ||
| There's that issue, and then there's also the issue of potentially striking people who have no means to kick back in. | ||
| To your first point, and Nick, you can speak to this. | ||
| You hear guys on the ground talking about how the rules of engagement have been detrimental to actually accomplishing the mission. | ||
| Can you go ahead and expand on that idea so people can't do that? | ||
| So to give you an idea, I'll just use Iraq as an example in 2008. | ||
| The amount of trouble we had to go through to get outside the wire and actually conduct military operations, it was far more intense than anybody would think. | ||
| It looked more like law enforcement operations than you would think, like an active combat area. | ||
| So this is something where I had to secure warrants. | ||
| I remember going out, we launched an operation to get a guy for which we had, I think, 10 different sworn statements from Iraqis. | ||
| Yeah, this guy's a terrorist. | ||
| Yeah, this guy's done bad things. | ||
| And I go back and like me, I'm a sergeant first class. | ||
| I'm a Green Beret, but I'm a sergeant first class. | ||
| And all of a sudden, I got to sit and I got to justify to a JAG officer on why this person needs to go to higher detention. | ||
| So yeah, there was a lot of us that got to the point where it's like, this is getting ridiculous. | ||
| And then remember, this is also the time during the Obama administration where they were talking about they wanted to have an award for valorous restraint. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And again, it's about the incentive structure that you're competing that you are creating in the minds of military personnel. | ||
| Now, listen, obviously, if you have, if I've got somebody detained right there in front of me, I have launched my operation. | ||
| I've got my bad guy. | ||
| They are zip tied. | ||
| And they're sitting over there. | ||
| And my commander walks in and goes, Freitas, shoot that guy in the head. | ||
| I'm going to look at my commander and be like, no, like, I know that's not authorized. | ||
| That's murder. | ||
| I can't do that. | ||
| Okay, but there's also questions on whether it comes down to repetitive strikes and things like that. | ||
| Can I hit a target more than once? | ||
| We do have big breaking news. | ||
| Sorry, guys. | ||
| Afton Bain, the woman from Tennessee from Nashville, who hates Nashville, has lost. | ||
| Oh, so apparently it looks like I don't know if Decision Desk is projecting Matt Van Epps to win. | ||
| So we've got this. | ||
| He has made, he has won. | ||
| And they posted this at 9.06. | ||
| Actually, we're 10 minutes behind. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But we have this in the New York Times tracking the latest. | ||
| And he's quite a bit ahead. | ||
| Perhaps going on podcasts and claiming that you hate everything about Nashville is not the way to actually win a congressional seat. | ||
| I will also mention in this, he looks like he's up six points. | ||
| This was a Trump plus 20 district, so I don't know how impressive this margin was. | ||
| It seems as though Republicans were a little bit concerned about this seat despite that. | ||
| Seventh district? | ||
| Trump was tweeting about it. | ||
| Urban Nashville was plus 20. | ||
| This district prior to this? | ||
| Yeah, in the prior Trump election was a Trump plus 20. | ||
| Nick, I wanted to follow up with you on one of the details here in particular. | ||
| As I understand on ground, it's different than what it's going on at sea. | ||
| Correct me at any moment because I'm sure you know a lot more about this than I do. | ||
| But on land, people, survivors could potentially be seen as a continuing military threat. | ||
| But however, when you are at sea after you strike a boat and there's survivors just hanging on to whatever's left over of the boat, it's different and they don't seem to pose a clear military threat. | ||
| That's when an alleged second strike was ordered and people are alleging that if that's the way it happened, then it would be a war crime. | ||
| Do you think that would be a war crime if it happened the way that the Washington Post is alleging? | ||
| That's one that I don't have a legal expertise with respect to that to be able to definitively say one way or the other. | ||
| I can't say that typically speaking, it's generally understood that if you have survivors of like a sunken ship or something like that, to strike that again would that would seem outside the rules to me, but I don't have a legal expertise because I did want to, again, get to the specifics because that's, I believe, again, I do not believe Senator Mark Kelly is justified in telling soldiers that they shouldn't follow what they believe may be illegitimate orders because the next administration might come after them. | ||
| But that's what he's talking about here with these orders. | ||
| Look, with all of this, we just got done talking about this earlier with Candace with respect to how words are chosen carefully in order to avoid prosecution or avoid defamation or anything like that. | ||
| It's going to be the same thing here, right? | ||
| And that's going to be the question: can you make a strong enough legal case where you could actually convict something for that? | ||
| Franklin can. | ||
| Franklin's capable. | ||
| You can pull us one. | ||
| You pull us one up. | ||
| Well, and that's also, but look, we've also got midterms coming up, right? | ||
| So the question is, is, are they talking about this exclusively? | ||
| Let me give you an example. | ||
| We've just got our clocks cleaned in Virginia. | ||
| We're going to be paying for what just happened in the Virginia election. | ||
| Oh, bro. | ||
| For the next 20 years. | ||
| I'm not coming back to your state. | ||
| For the next 20 years, we're going to be paying for what happened on election night in November. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Does anyone here think that the Democrats really just wanted to keep the government shut down because they were just so upset about some of these budget items? | ||
| Or do you think it's far more likely that they realized that they were impacting tens of thousands of voters in Northern Virginia right ahead of election? | ||
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Right. | |
| Right. | ||
| So it's this idea that there are times, this is Sololinsky's rules for radicals. | ||
| You know, our reaction is their action, right? | ||
| They want to get us to respond in a particular way. | ||
| And so I do think the Trump administration has to be very, very careful on how they go about this. | ||
| I do think they should rigorly investigate it. | ||
| And I do think they should be willing to use legitimate power. | ||
| This is one of the things that's been a huge problem for conservatives. | ||
| Yes, we are skeptical of the centralization of power and the use of power. | ||
| We don't see government as a mechanism whereby we reward our friends and punish our enemies. | ||
| But you know who does? | ||
| The left. | ||
| Every single time. | ||
| That is how they use it. | ||
| And to your point, when you do, when you are handed by the electorate legitimate government power, I don't think that means that you should abuse that power, but should you exercise it to its full legitimate force? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| You had better. | ||
| Yeah, you have an obligation. | ||
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You had better. | |
| That's why you won the election because they want you to exercise. | ||
| And now let's apply that in the reverse. | ||
| I'm not going to be coming to your state for some time. | ||
| You got Jay Jones coming in. | ||
| When does he formally come in? | ||
| It'll be January. | ||
| In January, it's probably the last time I drive through Virginia because we are currently living in a country where Charlie Kirk was murdered. | ||
| And no matter who you think did it, whatever, I'm not here to get into that whole argument. | ||
| The point is somebody wanted him dead and they made sure he was. | ||
| You have Jay Jones now, a man who wants his opponent's children to die so that they will agree with him on policy. | ||
| That doesn't just mean, hey, you know, if your children were brutally murdered, maybe you'll change your mind. | ||
| It means there are things I am willing to do that I understand must be done to make someone change their mind. | ||
| And so I'm not going back to Chicago for the holidays because, and you can look this up, you can ask Luke about it. | ||
| Police in Chicago tried planting drugs on us back in, I think it was 2012. | ||
| And NBC News reported how we got pulled over at gunpoint. | ||
| And it's a crazy story. | ||
| And call me paranoid, but all it takes is one day I drive through Virginia and some state trooper who's some crackpot far-left guy who's a fan of Jay Jones and believes all the crazy Nazi stuff plants drugs. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| Or just turns his body camera off and then puts a bullet in me. | ||
| That I doubt. | ||
| It's much easier just to be like, he resisted arrest and now he's going to jail. | ||
| If you want to take a piece off the board, there are many ways you can do it. | ||
| And we are living in a country right now where someone was willing to murder Charlie Kirk because of his influence. | ||
| When an AG comes in who expresses his desire to see children murdered for his political benefit, I am taking that very seriously. | ||
| I think I've said this before where originally, I mean, I was used to the General Assembly when I got in there in 2016, and it was if you disagreed with the Democrats, you were a racist, you were a bigot, you were a sexist. | ||
| And the use of that language was designed to rob you of moral legitimacy with respect to the arguments that you made. | ||
| It was, I don't need to listen to your arguments because who cares about the opinions of a racist, a sexist, or a bigot. | ||
| Then the language changed and the language became, you're a threat to democracy. | ||
| You're a fascist. | ||
| You're engaging in transgenocide. | ||
| That's not to rob you of moral legitimacy. | ||
| That is to create a moral framework for where they can use aggressive violence against you and claim it with self-defense. | ||
| Now we're moving into what Mark Kelly's doing right now, where it's, we will come after, we're promising to prosecute you if you follow the orders of a president we don't like. | ||
| We will use the full force and power of government. | ||
| Yeah, the thing that's going about to be going on in Virginia right now is the place is going to be run like the mob, right? | ||
| Don Scott and Louise Lucas are talking to all the lobbyists right now, essentially saying you better tell everybody that ever donated to a Republican, they better get on board. | ||
| They're going to tell everybody who wants legislation before the General Assembly, you hire a Yunkin appointee, you're done. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then it's a question of you've got a guy like Jay Jones running the Attorney General's office. | ||
| Guys, they don't have to actually convict you. | ||
| They can destroy your life with an investigation. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| They can bankrupt you having to fight. | ||
| They will use your tax dollars to crush you into the ground or to withdraw the investigation after the damage is done. | ||
| They can launch an indictment against a company based in Nashville and accuse several prominent conservatives of being paid by Russians and then abandon the investigation a month later when the election's over. | ||
| And that's literally what Merrick Garland did because he is evil. | ||
| And it's funny because I always bring up my buddy in the poker room who's like, you're always calling Democrats evil. | ||
| And I was like, well, maybe when the AG lies about you intentionally misrepresenting everything with no evidence and then you get death threats because of it, you might understand. | ||
| But to the people who don't really pay attention and they're just passively absorbing news, they don't get it. | ||
| And I've had to explain to people, I said, listen, for you to truly understand where we are, we have to go back in time 10 years. | ||
| And there's so much information you have wrong. | ||
| So I was talking to this guy and I said, Donald Trump never called neo-Nazi. | ||
| He never called Nazis fine people. | ||
| And it's fascinating because not to single out any individual that I was just talking to, but I'll use an example from this show. | ||
| When we had, what was her name? | ||
| Is it Tara Palmieri? | ||
| Was that her name? | ||
| She didn't know. | ||
| And this was this year. | ||
| She didn't know Trump never called Nazis fine people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| She genuinely still believed that lie. | ||
| Not only. | ||
| And that's the world they live in. | ||
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| Not only that, but I have friends that have said things like, oh, well, you know, maybe he didn't actually call Nazis fine people, but he was there that day with them. | ||
| He was there talking. | ||
| So he was at the neo-Nazi rally. | ||
| Even though, according to like Trump, I don't think he was actually at the rally. | ||
| He was doing a press conference. | ||
| He wasn't anywhere near. | ||
| Yeah, was he in? | ||
| He wasn't even near it. | ||
| Was he in New York? | ||
| I don't know, but he wasn't anywhere near Charlottesville. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So he didn't go there. | ||
| People are under the impression that he was there at the rally with him. | ||
| And the truth doesn't matter. | ||
| Well, you saw what the BBC did. | ||
| I mean, the BBC deliberately edited speeches in order to make it look like he had called for people to go over to the Capitol on January 6th. | ||
| Who was it? | ||
| Matt Van Swole? | ||
| He just came out and said, I just, I think it was either today or yesterday. | ||
| He said, I just learned for the first time that the whole hands-up, no shoot, or don't shoot is a complete fraud. | ||
| Just today. | ||
| Oh, yeah, just today. | ||
| He's like, I had no idea that this guy didn't put his hands up, didn't say don't shoot, didn't do any of it. | ||
| He literally charged a police officer, tried to take his firearm away from him. | ||
| In the car, followed him in the car. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| To get the firearm. | ||
| And there was a bullet. | ||
| The gun went off. | ||
| There was a bullet hole in the squad car's passenger door. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We all knew that part of the story within what, probably 72 hours. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Probably within 72 hours. | ||
| There's people now years later going, wait, wait, what? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or George Floyd having a lethal dose of fentanyl and meth in his system. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| People go, huh? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And they vote. | ||
| And they're voting for Afton Bain. | ||
| And the fact that these things are untrue and it was the foundation for a movement that, I mean, what, seven, eight years later, nine years later, eight years later, because I think, no, seven years later, because Ferguson was in 2013, seven years later, literally burned down multiple cities across the country. | ||
| Just massive amounts of rioting, which, by the way, were not demonstrations of left-wing ideological political violence. | ||
| No, not at all. | ||
| Not demonstrations of that. | ||
| That led to all of those hate trackers, the killing in Portland, the riots don't count as left-wing violence. | ||
| No, of course not. | ||
| No, but if a skinhead gang gets in a fight with a Hispanic gang over drug turf, that's right-wing ideology. | ||
| The skinhead gang gets in a fight with another skinhead gang. | ||
| That's right-wing violence. | ||
| Guys kill other white gangs. | ||
| It's white supremacists. | ||
| If a white supremacist punches his wife, it's right-wing violence. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And here's the problem: the problem is conservatives take the bait every time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Take the bait. | ||
| I think less so. | ||
| I think less so now. | ||
| I may be, but still prominent where I hear the debate all the time where someone will say something like, the right commits way more violence. | ||
| And the conservatives respond with, oh, yeah, but the left does this. | ||
| Instead of saying, brother, I'm not going to sit here and defend white supremacists punching anybody. | ||
| Don't, we are not part of the same group. | ||
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| So if you want to make an argument about white supremacists, fine. | ||
| If you want to make an argument about conservatives or Republicans, whatever you want to make, fine. | ||
| When they say the right is responsible for X, what they're actually trying to do is saying the run-of-the-mill working class Republican is the exact same thing as a skinhead neo-Nazi guy chasing down black men. | ||
| And then Republicans go, well, but the left does this or that. | ||
| My response is, oh, yeah, if you mean right isn't like the white supremacists, fine, but let's separate them and we'll all agree to condemn them. | ||
| Okay, of regular Republicans, oh, now it's zero. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, among regular liberals, it's 27,000. | ||
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| Well, it's this, this, I was speaking at a University of Alabama on this, and I would say, look, the bottom line is, one, you're associating to typical conservatives, stuff that's done by like extremists. | ||
| And then you're completely negating stuff done by Antifa, right? | ||
| There's an intellectual dishonesty here that has reached a critical mass. | ||
| And this, again, I think this all goes back to Gramsci with this whole idea of you take over culturally shaping institutions and then you use their credibility, their stored up credibility in order to push your agenda. | ||
| The problem now is that when you use those kind of statistics to try to push this narrative that, oh, well, 80% of political violence is on the right. | ||
| I'm looking at them now going, you understand that that doesn't cause me to go, oh my gosh, is that true? | ||
| I know it's not true. | ||
| Whoa, yeah, but this study said it, or is it all that does, okay, all you have done is reinforced my belief that that institution, the people conducting those studies, the organizations that put it out there, are co-opted. | ||
| They're absolutely co-opted. | ||
| Because I can go over here and I can look at a poll that was conducted where they asked self-identifying liberals, moderates, and conservatives, how comfortable are you with political violence? | ||
| And it turns out that it's overwhelmingly the left, which, oh, by the way, is what I observe on a daily basis. | ||
| So it's like, I don't, again, you can't continue to wear these culturally shaping institutions as a kind of like skin suit and demand that I give them the same credibility that they earned decades ago when they actually engaged in either objective journalist or objective analysis. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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| Let's grab your rants and chats. | ||
| We got David Flora says tonight Frederick County is having a meeting regarding data centers. | ||
| Now legacy farms dating to the 1700s will be affected. | ||
| There's been no studies on effects, environment, light, noise, or poll. | ||
| More to come. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Have you been tracking the data center stuff in Northern Virginia? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, so here's what's, there's a big problem with this. | ||
| It's one of the reasons why in Virginia this year, they are probably going to try to take away land use authority from localities in order to try to push more data centers and to definitely push green energy. | ||
| Like in Virginia, the issue that we have is they passed the Virginia Clean Economy Act, which is destroying our energy capacity. | ||
| So what are they doing to protect the environment? | ||
| Well, they're scooping up farmland and forestry, destroying it, and putting out industrial solar fields. | ||
| Now, why do they need to keep doing this to the degree that they are? | ||
| Because they have to feed these incredibly energy-hungry data centers. | ||
| And so it's amazing how in Virginia this is going to cause, I mean, this is about to cause our energy rates to just go through the roof. | ||
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So it's a big issue. | |
| It's kind of scary to think the amount of power that these things need and to know that the federal government has made it so difficult to build power plants, you know, whatever types they are. | ||
| I know that the left wants to see all kinds of green energy and stuff. | ||
| Personally, I'm of the opinion that you don't get any more green energy than nuclear power. | ||
| And if you want to start, if you want to build a nuclear power plant, it's like 10 years before you'll be able to get any power out of it if you start today. | ||
| I'm so busy all the time. | ||
| I'm trying to work out this mini doc plan with Shane about the data centers in Northern Virginia because I've told the story a couple different times, but it's creepy. | ||
| A large language model instructed me on how to contact data center land acquisition to get a massive payout if I shut up, take the show off the air and sell the land quietly. | ||
| It argued that the data centers effectively are their own entity. | ||
| It's called the Virginia Instance, which is these massive data centers connected to the NSA, the CIA, et cetera. | ||
| They're basically, humans are basically saying, what should we do? | ||
| And they're just being told what to do by the AI. | ||
| And it wants to buy up all the land in this area because it needs energy transmission from north of here into Northern Virginia. | ||
| And all these parcels are in the way. | ||
| We've noticed the prices of land around here are skyrocketing to an absurd degree. | ||
| We talked about it. | ||
| I talked about like a bungalow five years ago was 200,000, now it's 500, and they sell instantly. | ||
| And that makes no sense. | ||
| I looked at one house with my wife, and it was half a million dollars for 2,000 square feet, and it needed 100 grand in updates. | ||
| And we were like, that's ridiculous. | ||
| Sold right away. | ||
| And so all of this is really weird. | ||
| But the AI said there are Delaware limited liability partnerships quietly buying up plots of land. | ||
| They're trying to create large acreages to build data center transmission lines to go into the big data centers in Northern Virginia. | ||
| And it said that there are many people in the area who have quietly received exorbitant payouts for their land in exchange for privacy. | ||
| That it said, if you don't list your property and you email directly to the land acquisition companies, they'll offer you a premium not to go through any real estate and to do a private sale so that it doesn't pop up in the press. | ||
| The reason being, the news finds out that land is being purchased for the purpose of a data center and all the locals are going to lose their mind. | ||
| They're going to pass ordinances. | ||
| So they're trying to do it very quietly. | ||
| And they, uh, this, this, so I need to talk to Shane about this because we wanted to do a mini doc talking about what's actually going on and exposing it all. | ||
| And we, we've talked about it a bit, but we've never actually sat down and planned it. | ||
| So I need to. | ||
| Well, and a lot of a lot of localities like the data centers because they look at it as additional tax revenue for very few services. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Because they, I mean, you, you look at these massive data centers and that's not like 100 people in there. | ||
| It's relatively few. | ||
| Yeah, it's like seven. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If that, a janitor and a security guy. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And there's no lights. | ||
| The lights are all off because they don't need them. | ||
| Creepy. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Let's jump to the next show. | ||
| We got James Black says two things. | ||
| Nick on Timcast. | ||
| It is not even my birthday. | ||
| That is tomorrow. | ||
| Happy birthday, me. | ||
| Nothing has made me dislike Candace more than this Charlie Kirk arc. | ||
| I mean, look, listen, I really do recommend you listen to her show from today. | ||
| Because when she posted that tweet saying, like, I've got information for you, she didn't really say anything in the show. | ||
| And so I was sitting with Sean and I was like, just play it and we'll listen to it. | ||
| She literally said nothing. | ||
| I'm not being kidded. | ||
| I'm not being coy. | ||
| It was patter. | ||
| I was actually really shocked. | ||
| It was 10 minutes of her saying nothing. | ||
| I'll give you an example. | ||
| It was shocking how Candace was saying so little, but moving her mouth so much that it made me feel it felt like nothing was being said. | ||
| And that's something that's really important to tell people. | ||
| People need to understand this. | ||
| You know, when Candace was doing her show, her mouth was moving, words were coming out, but no ideas are actually being conveyed. | ||
| And that's what's important to really understand here. | ||
| What isn't conveyed because nothing was conveyed. | ||
| She was just saying words and those words conveyed nothing. | ||
| That's how I think and feel. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| I wouldn't lie to you about it. | ||
| I wouldn't mislead you. | ||
| She was actually just not really saying anything. | ||
| She was talking for a long period of time, just like I am doing right now. | ||
| How long until she accuses you of being Jewish, over or under three months? | ||
| What if she's just like, she refuses to say anything about me, but she just attacks you? | ||
| I'd be the low-hanging fruit, I guess. | ||
| It would be. | ||
| That's what big looking Yamakali. | ||
| I don't think our show generates enough buzz for her to mention. | ||
| Oh, I disagree. | ||
| I think she has a lot of respect for you. | ||
| And I think she knows the show is very important. | ||
| I think this will get a response. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| You know, the thing is, like we were looking at that story, talking about how much money she made. | ||
| Twitch is a big problem right now with bots. | ||
| There's a reason why people buy bots to make their viewership look bigger. | ||
| We're not going to get, you know, so right now, what do we have? | ||
| We're split between Rum, but we have 46,000 concurrent viewers, which is, it's actually really good because four years ago when we were in the offseason after the 2020 election, we were averaging about 27,000 concurrent viewers. | ||
| So the show has grown, its consistency, all these things. | ||
| I don't need to bot or buy views or do anything like that because honestly, I don't really care if it's number one, number 10, number 100. | ||
| But people don't understand that Candace has one really big show she does every day. | ||
| And it's big. | ||
| People really like it. | ||
| That's great if they like it, whatever. | ||
| And so you'll hear in the press about how she's so big. | ||
| Well, actually, across the board, I'm pretty sure we get equal to or more views than she does. | ||
| As a company, I've got four different shows of different subject matter. | ||
| And then we've got audio side, then we've got the other shows. | ||
| So, you know, if I were to stop doing five different shows and just do one, I don't think I'd get as many views as Candace, but I think I'd probably get like 60, 70%. | ||
| Whereas, you know, Tim Castiro does about half a million and she does like two. | ||
| If I stopped doing all the other shows, the viewers would concentrate around one show or whatever. | ||
| My point is there's a handful of, you have to break down total viewership per company for views. | ||
| So it's like her show's really big, but it's one, you know, hour-long show per day, right? | ||
| Do you want to hear the conspiracy about why she's still on air? | ||
| Because she works for Israel. | ||
| And Israel is, and that's why Nick Fuentes is banned and she's not, because Nick, they don't want to actually, so Nick is a wild card no one controls, and he says things that are dangerous to Israel. | ||
| But Candace has controlled opposition, who literally worked for the Daily Wire and then goes rogue and disappears from the company. | ||
| But then she's propped up on YouTube and Spotify as the acceptable anti-Israel, and she sounds crazy, and everyone's disparaging her. | ||
| And Nick Fuentes is banned from every platform. | ||
| She is a dumb black woman that makes anti-Semites look exceptionally low IQ. | ||
| Like her brand of anti-Semitism is extraordinarily low IQ. | ||
| I think anybody with any media literacy looks at her shit and goes, wow, what a moron. | ||
| Well, I mean, obviously you're personally offended by the things that she says and does. | ||
| I just think it's so naked. | ||
| I thought she was dumb when she was pro-Israel too, but she was very pro-Israel in the point. | ||
| My point is this. | ||
| This is the sin of Ben Shapiro, the Jews dealing with the sins of Ben Shapiro platforming again, this DEI right-wing commentator. | ||
| And he had some falling out with her, and she was really pissed about it. | ||
| And she goes, you know what Ben Shapiro loves? | ||
| Ben Shapiro loves Israel. | ||
| They had a falling out together. | ||
| Did they? | ||
| Yeah, definitely they did. | ||
| Answer me this. | ||
| Well, I had a text that said somebody. | ||
| Answer me this, Elod. | ||
| Why does YouTube prop her up, promote her on the front page, make sure she gets millions of views for everything she says about Israel? | ||
| Nick Fuentes can't have a YouTube channel, and Spotify banned Nick when he actually got his show up, but Spotify props up Candace. | ||
| It's a DEI candidate. | ||
| She is the DEI right-wing commentator. | ||
| If they can't cancel black women, it would be racist. | ||
| That's totally wild. | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| Yeah, that's what I think it is. | ||
| Honestly, I think the reason that Nick catches so much flack is because Nick's delivery has always been trolly. | ||
| Yes, I say things intentionally to get people riled up. | ||
| Kind of like when Candace Owens says Bridget McCrone's a man. | ||
| I don't think that it's trolly. | ||
| I think Bridget McCrone, I mean, I think that Candace Owen believes that. | ||
| I don't. | ||
| I think she doesn't use as many slurs as Nick does, and I think the slurs really gets you kicked off of the social media platforms. | ||
| I get that. | ||
| I get that. | ||
| But doesn't explain why he can't even have the channel. | ||
| It's one thing that if he makes a channel and then they give him a strike for saying a racial slur. | ||
| Well, he did have a YouTube channel that was eventually canceled. | ||
| But it wasn't so many strikes. | ||
| I don't think, yeah, but just like Steven Crowder, they're not legitimate strikes. | ||
| Like, here's another example. | ||
| Steven Crowder doesn't go anywhere near the degree that Fuentes does in the hate or like, hate's not the right word, but like the aggression, the way he insults people. | ||
| Yet they give credit strikes like hotcakes, but not Candace Owens. | ||
| Hey, maybe she got somebody on the inside. | ||
| Must be working with her, huh? | ||
| Or she worked for The Daily Wire alongside Ben Shapiro. | ||
| And it's, you know, I was talking to these young guys and they were like, you know, Candace Owens, you know, this is the funny thing about people who are like, Candace never said Israel did it. | ||
| I talked to these young guys and they were like, do you believe what Candace is saying? | ||
| That Israel killed Charlie Kirk? | ||
| That's what they literally asked me. | ||
| These three guys, in their early 20s. | ||
| And I was like, well, she didn't say explicitly that she's like implied that there's Israelis involved. | ||
| And I said, but don't you guys think it's weird that she claims you can't criticize Israel, but YouTube makes her number one? | ||
| And then they kind of were like, that is weird, isn't it? | ||
| Saying that is what helps make her number one. | ||
| What? | ||
| Saying that she can't. | ||
| The conspiracy around that is why it's always the idea of I'm the victim, I'm the victim of it. | ||
| It is kind of funny, though. | ||
| It's like, clearly you're allowed to criticize Israel because she's number one. | ||
| It's fascinating, too, because she used to be like the anti-victimhood mentality type person. | ||
| That used to be like her catchphrase at Blexit. | ||
| I still remember those days where she's like, I'm against victimhood mentality. | ||
| But now all of her content is about her. | ||
| Here's a good one. | ||
| One goat says, Candace Owens, Ian Carroll, Nick Fuentes, Valhalla, and others of the future. | ||
| We're done listening to these whiny retards dishing out their dumb opinions. | ||
| We want truth, evidence, and facts. | ||
| And then it's, I think it's those middle finger emojis, Tim Toole. | ||
| The funny thing is, Ian Carroll once claimed I was trying to buy the Daily Wire. | ||
| He did. | ||
| He did. | ||
| He literally came out of the story, and I don't get any people even Ian Carroll, but he was like, Tim Poole was trying to buy the Daily Wire. | ||
| And I was like, yes. | ||
| Yes, I have that much money. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| I think that was. | ||
| Go on. | ||
| No, it's just, it's remarkable the insane-ish that comes out of this sector of the internet, where they claimed the Daily Wire owned a portion of Timcast. | ||
| They literally were spreading rumors that Daily Wire was a minority holder of Timcast. | ||
| And then at the same time, they said I was trying to buy the Daily Wire. | ||
| Here we are, one year on from this retarded BS doing the same thing we've always done. | ||
| And it was really funny because I had someone ask me and they were like, is this true that you're trying to buy out the Daily Wire? | ||
| And then I was just like, first of all, that's insane. | ||
| And they were like, well, what about the rumor that they own a piece of Timcast? | ||
| And I said, give it a month. | ||
| And then what happened? | ||
| We signed a deal with Rumble and we announced that we're with Rumble. | ||
| And we have this YouTube short that's going, that's just constantly viral about Timcast on Rumble. | ||
| It got like half a million views in the past two days. | ||
| It gets like a million. | ||
| It's got 3 million views. | ||
| And all of the BS these people were spewing. | ||
| And I'm not saying Candace specifically, like this sector of the internet. | ||
| I was like, I'm sitting here having a conversation with Rumble about, you know, bringing IRL live to Rumble, doing Rumble Premium. | ||
| Like, we got a bunch of big plans that we're working on with Rumble. | ||
| I'm like, who makes this stuff up? | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| I was actually reviewing some other stuff since you mentioned Ian Carroll, and it reminded me of this tweet that he released in March 29th, alleging that there's an RFK Jr. blackmail story from multiple angles that Candace Owens also pushed. | ||
| These retards push so much bullshit that it's really hard to forget the actual dumb shit that they push. | ||
| And again, why does this matter? | ||
| Why is this an issue? | ||
| It's because instead of, again, paying attention to the important political stories or engaging in politics in a serious way, it's easy to digest this stupid Netflix true crime type bullshit that really, I don't know, gets your brain going, gets the adrenaline running, but isn't necessarily true. | ||
| It's baseless. | ||
| It's not based on anything but conjecture and text messages that people are just sending each other. | ||
| Quantum Cool says, Candace is a fed. | ||
| She's trying to destroy Turning Point USA to what? | ||
| Get rich and cover for extreme trans ideology. | ||
| She never left the left. | ||
| Her views are full of bots. | ||
| I think she's appealing to third worldists. | ||
| I think that's what it is. | ||
| I think like the AR person that you met, they're just happy when she blames anything on Israel. | ||
| There's what, 1.6 billion Muslims? | ||
| Maybe we should start doing appealing to Muslims, huh? | ||
| Appealing to Muslims? | ||
| You're going to convert? | ||
| You're going to abandon. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| God forbid. | ||
| I would revert. | ||
| I hate how they say that. | ||
| It's the most arrogant thing a religious Muslim could say. | ||
| It's like, oh, no, you're not converted. | ||
| You're coming back. | ||
| No, buddy, I'm a Jew. | ||
| It's just like when they say Christ was a Muslim. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, everybody knows. | ||
| We got Yaki and he says, why is no one talking about how weird their marriage is? | ||
| No romantic talk. | ||
| And him attracted to her power so much that he proposed after 17 days. | ||
| Nothing to see here. | ||
| Is that what it was? | ||
| Yeah, it was quick. | ||
| Like two weeks they got married. | ||
| I got two weeks. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's two weeks of marriage. | ||
| I'm going to say this, guys. | ||
| I really do recommend you watch the show she put out today because I can't remember who said it, but someone in here, someone in pre-production, we were getting race at it. | ||
| It sounded like she was in love with Charlie. | ||
| I'm not exaggerating. | ||
| I'm not being cute nor derisive. | ||
| She talks about how she used to send him texts saying, I feel like an alien. | ||
| And he responded with, I'm a time traveler. | ||
| I'm not joking. | ||
| He's like, I'm a time traveler and stuff like I believe in you. | ||
| And she tells stories about how he would ask her. | ||
| She was like, I was always his wingman. | ||
| It really sounds like she is the friend zoned. | ||
| Like she was in love with him and he cast her aside and she's very jealous. | ||
| And maybe the reason, I'm not trying to be cute. | ||
| This is the thing. | ||
| Did she have a thing for white man? | ||
| I mean, isn't she married to one? | ||
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I don't know. | |
| This is not meant to be intentionally insulting or derisive. | ||
| I do genuinely believe I'd listen to that show today where she talked about Charlie. | ||
| It sounded like she was in love. | ||
| And I have to imagine what she must feel knowing Erica Kirk inherited and took over what Charlie built, even though Candace was there from the beginning. | ||
| And Candace got to watch Charlie, who was her best friend, and she was the wingman, go on some other woman. | ||
| I think the motivation may be that Candace, she can't come out and say she hates Erica. | ||
| Because Erica's a widow. | ||
| I mean, her husband's murdered, and she knows it's a peer angle she can't take. | ||
| She goes after instead, Tyler and Colvette. | ||
| I think Candace is just jealous that Charlie wouldn't want to be with her. | ||
| And again, not trying to be insulting or derisive. | ||
| I think that's a genuine motivation. | ||
| And I understand. | ||
| Now, watch the show she did today. | ||
| This is not meant to be cute. | ||
| Where she talks about the texts, and she was telling him what clothes to wear on his dates and how she was the wingman and these texts about how she felt like an alien. | ||
| and he said he was a time traveler. | ||
| I'm like, is this like a, I'm not kidding. | ||
| It's like. | ||
| It's like a romance novel. | ||
| This is why women probably love it. | ||
| Because it's almost like a romance novel. | ||
| It's like a telenova. | ||
| I see. | ||
| I'm not drunk. | ||
| She's showing text messages where he says, I'm a time traveler. | ||
| And she says, I'm an alien. | ||
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Tenovella. | |
| Telenovella. | ||
| I don't speak Spanish, baby. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| America only. | ||
| Jane Waters says, someone explained to me how Candace is on the front page of YouTube's featured, yet the only time they put Tim Cast IRL on the featured is an episode from five years ago and is YouTube's members only. | ||
| This is the weirdest thing. | ||
| YouTube has featured for a year now an old episode from like the first two weeks of Tim Cast IRL that is members only. | ||
| I don't know why it's members only. | ||
| I don't know that we ever did that because I don't care if people watch the first episode. | ||
| I get that video all the time, by the way. | ||
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Yes. | |
| Very, very odd. | ||
| Members only in like a weird studio. | ||
| It's our first studio in the basement in Jersey. | ||
| Very weird. | ||
| With Adam. | ||
| And it says YouTube featured on it and it makes no sense. | ||
| I don't get it at all. | ||
| Very weird. | ||
| Good episode of Tim Cast IRL. | ||
| So you aren't promoting those in any way? | ||
|
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No. | |
| That's so weird because I get them all the time as well. | ||
|
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Yep. | |
| All the time. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| It's so weird. | ||
| I don't understand. | ||
| Why won't it just promote like the show now? | ||
| Yeah, I get that promotion and I get almost zero promotion for Arcadia. | ||
| Wait, hold on. | ||
| Maybe there's a way we can do something here. | ||
| Let's go to that video and make a thumbnail. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, that's genius. | ||
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Need title and thumbnail very, very similar. | |
| And have it be like, just have it say subscribe to Tim subscribe to Timcast IRL. | ||
| I've got IRL pulled up right now and that specific video is over on the right side. | ||
| It's this premium members only stuff, right? | ||
| On the bottom? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| YouTube featured members only. | ||
| Okay, I'm going to pull up Breathing Elon's Musk. | ||
| New Trend has kids licking toilets is the name of the look at this. | ||
| No joke. | ||
| YouTube featured right here. | ||
| That's what I'm talking about. | ||
| It's everywhere. | ||
| New Trend has kids licking toilets. | ||
| Yeah, it's from five years ago. | ||
| The coronavirus challenge. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Dude, it's, you know what? | ||
| I mean, we should just, if we, maybe it's featured because it is members only. | ||
| And I don't know why it's members only. | ||
| It might have been that at some point five years ago. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| The YouTube algorithm has been trash for some time, frankly, so I wouldn't be surprised if you. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I'm not going to do anything. | ||
| I'm going to leave it as is because it's promoting it like crazy to people, but it's free advertising. | ||
| So, you know, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. | ||
| I don't know why they're promoting it, but whatever. | ||
| Also, this song, Breathing Elon's Musk, is hilarious, by the way. | ||
| All right. | ||
| What do we got here? | ||
| What is this? | ||
| Kay Gorski says, enough, Candace, please. | ||
| I hate to say it, but while I agree on the sentiment of like, does her story really matter? | ||
| It got to the point where it did. | ||
| It got to the point where she put out a post and got 8 million views insinuating turning points involved in his murder. | ||
| And it's like the fifth time she's made these insinuations. | ||
| So it's like, yeah, it's affecting people. | ||
| All right. | ||
| What do we got? | ||
| All right. | ||
| LARP Laugh Love says, Tim, it's only poor trigger discipline if Franklin is aiming at something he doesn't intend to shoot. | ||
| So in a lot of the Franklin videos, he's got his finger directly on the trigger. | ||
| And he's point, look, you know, they said it's poor trigger discipline. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| It is poor trigger discipline. | ||
| Finger straighten off the jersey. | ||
| So someone needs to do it. | ||
| Franklin learns trigger discipline. | ||
| No, because you know that the AI-generated image would be like Franklin shot his friend. | ||
| Learns trigger discipline. | ||
| All right. | ||
| What is this? | ||
| Jay's Jason Dix says, hey, Tim, shout out to the pre shout out to the pre-show in the Discord. | ||
| Members exclusive. | ||
| Also, shout out to Mark, COO. | ||
| He took my job. | ||
| I'm not bitter. | ||
| He's a good man. | ||
| Shout out to Mark. | ||
| So in the Discord, we have Slick and Olive. | ||
| They host a show, and the Timcast co-hosts come on and join it. | ||
| The Discord community runs its own shows. | ||
| We don't tell them what to do. | ||
| It is a community of people who build things because they want to build things, and they're wondering why you don't want to be friends with them. | ||
| I think you should be by going to Timcast.com and clicking join us and getting in the Discord server. | ||
| It is fun. | ||
| And then there's something all day, every day. | ||
| If you're bored and you're looking for information, like imagine this. | ||
| Imagine there's a story that comes out, you don't quite understand, and I don't have any videos up or on anything. | ||
| You go in the Discord and you post about it. | ||
| Everyone's sharing information. | ||
| And these are good people who have a similar moral worldview that the truth is more important than our political view on what should be. | ||
| It matters what is. | ||
| Because if we want to make the world work, the first thing we do is figure out what's true and then what we have to do to get to our solution. | ||
| So shout out to the Discord. | ||
| All right, what have we here? | ||
| Crystal Gazer says, Nick, my brother was killed in January of 24 in a hit and run in Newport News, Virginia. | ||
| The man who killed my brother was just sentenced to six months in jail. | ||
| Without going into all the details of the case here, is there anything more my family can do? | ||
| You can attempt to appeal the decision. | ||
| You're in Newport News. | ||
| Good gosh. | ||
| What's wrong with Newport News? | ||
| Well, let's just say the representation there isn't the best. | ||
| So, yeah, here's the deal. | ||
| You can definitely attempt to contact your state legislators and ask them about it. | ||
| Now, I will say this: there is obviously separation of powers between your legislatures and the judiciary. | ||
| So, we're always careful about what we theoretically interfere with on things like that. | ||
| But you can attempt to appeal the decision. | ||
| You can attempt to contact the Attorney General's office if you think there's been kind of like a tragic miscarriage of justice on that. | ||
| Those are the different legal mechanisms that you can take. | ||
| The other thing that you can do is, depending on you can get the information out about the judge that actually did the decision of the sentencing. | ||
| The other question is, is your Commonwealth attorney for your area? | ||
| Did they offer a plea? | ||
| Is that why you only got six months for this? | ||
| Was there something else the Commonwealth Attorney did? | ||
| Because they're elected. | ||
| And so you can theoretically go after the Commonwealth Attorney during the next election cycle. | ||
| I wish I could give you like a better response on the things that you could do to try to correct for this, but those are the various mechanisms available. | ||
| So we put up a poll and it said Candace is right or Candace is wrong. | ||
| It's 59% Candace is wrong, 41% Candace is right. | ||
| I guess my follow-up is just, what is she right about? | ||
| Okay, this is what's killing me about this. | ||
| This is why I go back to, like, regardless of where you stand on this issue, is there anyone that can tell me that she is anything other than his best friend or his worst enemy? | ||
| Right? | ||
| Because this is what troubles me about this, is that if you're willing to look at this subjectively and you just say, I find what she says convincing so far, that's fine. | ||
| I do not. | ||
| I do not find what she has said convincing. | ||
| But if you do, my question is: what is the standard of truth that you're actually going to utilize? | ||
| Because at some point, there can no longer be, I have evidence and I'm going to present it, and then there's no evidence, or the evidence is not sufficient to actually prove what she's saying. | ||
| And this goes back to what you were saying before. | ||
| What is the standard for truth? | ||
| We got Amish Man. | ||
| He says, Tim is going so hard against Candace, it's almost like Israel paid him. | ||
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Amishman, you are a retard. | |
| Like, this is the crazy thing. | ||
| You always have to be paid by someone else. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Like, a business can't just exist. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Like, I did a poll, 40%, 60% right now. | ||
| 40% say Candace is right. | ||
| Well, brother, you paid me. | ||
| Bro, you sent a $5 super chat to me that I'm going to use to do this show. | ||
| It's crazy that it's like, you can literally see the super chat money come in. | ||
| We had $25,000, what was it, $25,000 in super chats when Tim Ballard was on from when we were talking about Sound of Freedom. | ||
| And it's just like, how does Tim get his money? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| There's like 10 million subscribers on all the platforms who have Discord with tens of thousands of people in it. | ||
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Why does it have to be Israel paying me? | |
| I constantly get that I'm an Israeli shill because the dudes that owned the label that All That Remains used to be on were Jewish. | ||
| So because they're Jewish, I'm an Israeli shill. | ||
| The super chatter's outing himself is Israeli. | ||
| Well, by Israel. | ||
| I mean, I think you should maybe, maybe Elad can explain what two weeks is really about. | ||
| Israelis don't pay Tim, guys. | ||
| Tim pays Israelis. | ||
| What people don't realize is that if you play Two Weeks Backwards, it's actually like rabbinical chant. | ||
| It's just pure Jewish Torah research. | ||
| Yeah, and to Elad's point, my manager's Jewish and my business manager are Jewish. | ||
| So I am actually paying the Jews. | ||
| Although I do think Tim does have a nice ring to it. | ||
| Actually, that is funny, too. | ||
| Israel's not paying me. | ||
| The Jews are not paying me. | ||
| I'm paying him. | ||
| He's sitting right here. | ||
| That's how sneaky it gets. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Wait a minute. | ||
| I rent a room to a Jewish guy. | ||
| So that's one Jew that's paying me. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Oh, the Jew's not your landlord. | ||
| You're not paid by the Jews. | ||
| I'm the landlord to a Jew. | ||
| You're not paid by the Jews. | ||
| You're paid by Jew. | ||
| Yeah, by AJ. | ||
| How the tables have turned. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| All right, everybody. | ||
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| Quick programming update. | ||
| I was lucky enough to go to a congressional media row today and interview a few different congressmen. | ||
| And I understand that's going to be on the Culture War channel in the next couple of days. | ||
| These are three 15-minute interviews. | ||
| And then we also have the Pentagon media row tomorrow, where I'll be doing a handful of interviews with Pentagon officials. | ||
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| Phil. | ||
| I am Phil Abanti. | ||
| I am Phil at Remains on Twix. | ||
| The band is All That Remains. | ||
| Tomorrow night, I have a super cool announcement about All That Remains. | ||
| That's all I'm going to tell you right now, but it's a really cool announcement for Christmas. | ||
| You can check out the band All That Remains on Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify, YouTube, and Deezer. | ||
| Forget the left lane is for crime. | ||
| One more super chat before we go. | ||
| James Margolis says, Tim, haha, thank you so much for the phone message for my birthday. | ||
| That was so cool to see that. | ||
| Love your work, sir. | ||
| A huge hello to everyone else there. | ||
| And thank you, sir. | ||
| And shout out to your wife. | ||
| So, when George Sanders was here last, he was like talking about how Cameo is really great and you should use it. | ||
| And I said, sure. | ||
| And then I kind of just signed up and then ignored it. | ||
| And then noticed it was a request for someone's birthday. | ||
| And so I absolutely gave a shout out for his birthday. | ||
| So I really do appreciate it. | ||
| And I just want to say happy birthday again, man. | ||
| It was, I appreciate y'all reaching out. | ||
| We're going to go to Rumble.com, and we hope to see you there in about 30 seconds. | ||
| This song's too good. | ||
| It is good. | ||
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He tweets the thought the markets cry. | |
| Getting feats now that's a lie. | ||
| I'm a little jealous. | ||
| It's a great song. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And it's sad to say, I assume. | ||
| We're just waiting for Ahmad to get back. | ||
| I forgot to put it anyway. | ||
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They don't mind. | |
| Good tune. | ||
| Elon definitely likes him. | ||
| He needs to know about the song. | ||
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I tweeted it, but I should DM it to him and be like, dude, you need to post this song. | |
| I can't. | ||
| I can't imagine that he wouldn't be using an arm. | ||
| It's like perfectly as a vision, man. | ||
| Really cooks, brock. | ||
| Imagine how sick this looks. | ||
| It's looking like the budget's toast. | ||
| The Epstein files are just that ghost. | ||
| That all non-profit close day I leave in Elon. | ||
| I am dry. | ||
| So this house but bought the sun for 20 trillions our ships run enough to fight the succorbork Sam open and his yee bleehore so go get ship to just the blessing Elon said we surely must now breed you fools or we'll all die just salute and let the tears fly | ||
| This dude who made this actually wrote at least some of the lyrics, because they're really good. | ||
| Better than a hagachan. | ||
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Before we reach the human, take a whip of me. | |
| If he doesn't come out, then Elon's bus cologne. | ||
| We have it right there. | ||
| Elon's burnt hair cologne. | ||
| Man, that's great. | ||
| Well, here's the story we have for you. | ||
| Elon Musk's Grox would kill every Jewish person on the planet to save him. | ||
| Does that make you feel a lot? | ||
| Dude, I think he'd kill every single human on the planet to save himself. | ||
| No, no way, dude. | ||
| He's obsessed with population expansion. | ||
| Yeah, but he's more of an egomaniac than anything else, I believe. | ||
| Have you ever been rushing anything else? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| He's probably got like 100 kids. | ||
| Yeah, but I think he's, you know, obviously very into himself and his abilities. | ||
| He'd probably as long as he has one other woman, he could probably repopulate the whole earth. | ||
| I think it would be easy. | ||
| Is he wrong? | ||
| No. | ||
| This is the funny thing about humans, man. | ||
| They're fucking idiots. | ||
| All stupid. | ||
| Every single one. | ||
| I'm a human, too. | ||
| I'm as dumb as they come. | ||
| The point is. | ||
| One dumber than the next, too. | ||
| We're fucking dumb. | ||
| Have you guys ever seen what we do in the shadows, the TV show, not the movie? | ||
| I thought literally, which would be humanity. | ||
| No, there's a really funny scene where one of the guys is not a regular vampire. | ||
| He's an energy vampire. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And he's like just got three laptops set up. | ||
| It's really good because he's just like, yeah, he's just trolling and there's a woman. | ||
| She's like, you're wrong. | ||
| I'm a biologist. | ||
| He's like, you don't know what you're talking about. | ||
| You're wrong. | ||
| He's like, you can get a lot of energy from people by doing this. | ||
| An energy vampire. | ||
| But it's funny because I've run into this in every profession. | ||
| Every professional I've ever met talks about how online random people outside the profession tell them why they're wrong. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, no matter what it might be, you're going to be like, you know, oh, this is what combat's like. | ||
| And people are going to be like, actually, you're wrong. | ||
| It's like this. | ||
| And you're like, okay, I will say that. | ||
| No, I don't think there's any profession that I've experienced where people are more convinced that they know more about how it actually works than politics. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I had very, very few people that said, Nick, that's not the way to conduct counterinsurgency operations in order to interact like that. | ||
| I did not get that. | ||
| But everybody, everybody knows more about what's actually happening within the realm of the committee I chair. | ||
| And this is what I often bump into these liberals, and I'll ask them, I'm like, do you follow news a lot? | ||
| And they'll go, not really. | ||
| And I'll go, and okay, thanks for being honest. | ||
| And I'll be like, so why do you think you're right and I'm wrong when I read the news for about six, seven hours a day? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| There's no answer. | ||
| I had one lady, you know, come into the office at once and she was, you know, furious. | ||
| And it was this whole idea of we went through the whole cycle, right? | ||
| Because the first time you engage with the leftists, it's because you're evil. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then once you convince them that you're not actually evil, that you are flesh and blood and a human being like them, then it's, you know, you're stupid. | ||
| And then once you convince them that, oh, actually, you're not stupid, then what it is is you're just ignorant. | ||
| You don't understand enough. | ||
| And finally, I was looking at this. | ||
| I said, I got an idea. | ||
| I said, you know, maybe you're right. | ||
| Maybe I don't understand enough about your position, your policies, what you prefer. | ||
| I said, can I recommend something to test this? | ||
| She goes, sure. | ||
| I said, okay. | ||
| For the next five minutes, I'm going to argue for liberalism, for progressivism. | ||
| And I'm going to argue for it in a way that you will find convincing. | ||
| She goes, oh, okay. | ||
| All I ask in return is that for then for the next five minutes, you have to argue for conservatism in a way that I would find convincing. | ||
| And she goes, I wouldn't even know where to start. | ||
| I'm like, well, then who is more ignorant of the other side? | ||
| I said, I live in a world where I have to engage with your ideas, your worldview. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because every song I listen to, every TV show I watch, it is inundated. | ||
| It is inundated. |
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