Dec. 4, 2025 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
02:20:55
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| The top story of the day. | ||
| A raccoon got drunk. | ||
| You may be surprised. | ||
| Did you know that raccoons could get drunk? | ||
| You may be asking yourself, why did I click this? | ||
| I don't really care about a raccoon getting drunk. | ||
| Well, some of you may be saying, dude, just shut up and tell me about the raccoon getting drunk. | ||
| What happened? | ||
| It broke into a liquor store, stole moonshine, and I guess peanut butter whiskey, got plastered, passed out, sprawled on the floor at a bathroom. | ||
| And it's funny, and I enjoyed the story, but I was actually shocked to find that in Google Trend search, as well as across all of corporate news, this is their top story. | ||
| It's not a joke. | ||
| But there is actually something behind this that I thought was interesting and worth opening a show with. | ||
| And it's that everybody's so fried on politics, man. | ||
| When the raccoon story popped up, people said, just please, for the love of all this holy, give me the raccoon story. | ||
| And I'll be honest with you, there is some big news today. | ||
| Donald Trump suspended immigration, citizenship, and asylum applications from 19 countries. | ||
| He halted the process of these ceremonies for getting citizenship. | ||
| These are people who are already in the United States with legal visas that finished the citizenship process. | ||
| We're about to go swear their oath. | ||
| And Trump was like, nah, we're not going to do that. | ||
| So there is big news. | ||
| 7,000 criminals released from the jails, criminal migrants, and other such things just released in New York for seemingly no reason. | ||
| And we're in a massive solar storm. | ||
| So the apocalypse is still here, guys. | ||
| But it was interesting to see this. | ||
| And I decided, you know what, at least for today, let's talk about the crazy stuff too. | ||
| But at least we'll get started talking about the raccoon and what the raccoon means. | ||
| What is the message behind this raccoon story? | ||
| There actually is one. | ||
| We'll talk about fatigue. | ||
| Everybody's fatigued, man. | ||
| Seriously, everybody is fatigued. | ||
| I've been having conversations. | ||
| Having a touching grass, talking to a lot of people about this, and we'll talk about what's happening in this country politically, but what the raccoon means for all of that. | ||
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| Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more. | ||
| We have Raw Egg Nationalist. | ||
| It's great to be with you. | ||
| Who are you? | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| I am, well, I started life as a Twitter poster and anonymously on Twitter. | ||
| And then my identity was revealed by some unpleasant left-wing activists in the UK. | ||
| I write about health and fitness. | ||
| I was the star of the 2022 Tucker Carlson documentary, The End of Men, about testosterone decline. | ||
| And now I have written a book that sort of follows on from the documentary called The Last Men, Liberalism and the Death of Masculinity, which is about testosterone decline as a political problem. | ||
| And I think it is a big political problem. | ||
| Indeed. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Well, it should be fun. | ||
| Thanks for hanging out. | ||
| We got Tate hanging out. | ||
| What is going on, guys? | ||
| It's Tate Brown here holding it down. | ||
| I'm privileged to be here at the Raw Egg National. | ||
| It's a long time follow, so it's super sick that he's here in the studio. | ||
| And I'm ready to talk about this raccoon. | ||
| Brett, how are you doing? | ||
| I'm very excited to talk about the raccoon. | ||
| You can make everything political these days. | ||
| It's a lot harder to make a drunk raccoon political. | ||
| Maybe that's the benefit for all this. | ||
| Guys, it's Brett. | ||
| If you don't know, normally doing Pop Culture Crisis Monday through Friday at 3 p.m. | ||
| We are off this week. | ||
| We will be back again Monday next week. | ||
| But Phil, how are you doing? | ||
| Hello, everybody. | ||
| My name is Phil Labonte. | ||
| I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains. | ||
| I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary. | ||
| Let's get into it. | ||
| Here's the big news from the New York Times. | ||
| Actually, it's not just the New York Times. | ||
| A drunk raccoon passed out in the bathroom of a Virginia liquor store. | ||
| Don't worry, it's okay. | ||
| Seriously, the New York Times and the Associated Press. | ||
| Raccoon goes on drunken rampage in Virginia liquor store and passes out on bathroom floor. | ||
| That's literally the story. | ||
| There's nothing else to read. | ||
| Here's The Guardian. | ||
| Drunk raccoon found passed out in Virginia liquor store. | ||
| There's the image of the drunk raccoon. | ||
| It's funny. | ||
| Here's the BBC. | ||
| Drunk raccoon found passed out on liquor store floor after breaking in. | ||
| And it drank booze and then passed out. | ||
| And then, of course, we have the Washington Post. | ||
| Drunk raccoon passes out in bathroom after ransacking VA liquor store. | ||
| And then, of course, we have Google Trends showing that, well, there are stories above drunk raccoon. | ||
| You've got athletic Real Madrid. | ||
| They're always doing well. | ||
| But it spiked in the trends and dropped off quickly. | ||
| Leeds United versus Chelsea spiked in the trends and dropped off quickly. | ||
| Elden Campbell, sad story, spiked and then declined. | ||
| Yet Drunken Raccoon, Virginia Liquor Store spiked several times and is slowly going up. | ||
| It's here to stay. | ||
| The people demand drunken raccoon. | ||
| And I will just give you the quick gist of the story. | ||
| It entered a liquor store through the roof, wreaking havoc, drinking rum, moonshine, and peanut butter whiskey. | ||
| It got drunk, even some vodka, crawled into the bathroom where it plopped face down, drunk, and was found sleeping. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| Have they made AI videos of the raccoon yet? | ||
| Because those are going to be coming out in short order. | ||
| This is our future. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Oh, go ahead. | ||
| No, I mean, I was just saying, I think this is like one of the most impactful stories, I think, of the year. | ||
| I mean, we were discussing pre-show a lot of the philosophical implications here. | ||
| I mean, this is a very Haushtin character, very powerful. | ||
| I mean, this is a creature at the end of a civilizational rope. | ||
| This is someone that is yearning for Horizons. | ||
| And it's a metaphor for men today. | ||
| You know, a raccoon, a symbol of wild strength and viciousness, reduced to a drunkard sleeping on the floor, weak, frail, and impotent. | ||
| I mean, this is like, yeah, this is my wheelhouse. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Drunken raccoons. | ||
| Yeah, it's unbelievably powerful. | ||
| Why do you think it's spiking? | ||
| Why do you think it's spiked the way? | ||
| Well, I mean, it's a hilarious story. | ||
| So you think it is, it's like literally, you can't get away from politics and anything. | ||
| You want to talk about movies? | ||
| It can be made about politics. | ||
| Video games, politics. | ||
| You want to talk about the weather? | ||
| Even that's politics. | ||
| Now, it's harder to politicize drunken raccoon unless something bad happens to him like peanut. | ||
| Well, there's a very, very simple and obvious reason why this story, there's two big picture reasons why the story is going viral and why it is one of the, if not the top story right now. | ||
| It's not a joke. | ||
| And, you know, that doesn't mean we always would do something like leading off the show talking about a drunken raccoon. | ||
| We were going to lead off with like the immigration stuff and Trump suspending immigration. | ||
| This matters to those who care about policy and function of government. | ||
| But there is something bigger here that matters more to everybody who actually does care about function of government. | ||
| That is, no one else does, and they're increasingly walking away from you. | ||
| So I've had many conversations recently. | ||
| More and more, people are telling me things like, I used to watch the news all the time, but I just turned it off. | ||
| It's the same thing all day, every day. | ||
| So what happens? | ||
| It's a funny story. | ||
| People are curious, like, wait, what happened? | ||
| So they look for it. | ||
| More importantly, as Brett's mentioning, you can't make it political. | ||
| It can't really be. | ||
| Someone's going to be like, well, the issue with Virginia is they have these ABCs. | ||
| Conservation laws are really, yeah. | ||
| But the point is. | ||
| Trump's so bad that this raccoons are drunk. | ||
| This story is the top story with 50,000 searches. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| Real Madrid has 200,000, but again, that spiked and then dropped off. | ||
| 50,000 searches is nothing. | ||
| So that indicates two big things. | ||
| Culturally, we don't care about the same things anymore. | ||
| In the United States, everyone cares about some random thing, some micro-community, some random subculture. | ||
| No one's paying attention to big picture stuff anymore. | ||
| Again, the story is funny, but also politics is cooked. | ||
| Not just because we're in the back of the back year of a presidential election, but because for the past decade, literal decade, every day, it's been like someone standing next to you screaming Trump at the top of their lungs. | ||
| And people have begun to tune out and just say, I don't care anymore. | ||
| There's nothing you can say. | ||
| Well, it's like the boy that cried wolf with a lot of it for most of the time. | ||
| You're hearing that it's the end of the world from everyone. | ||
| And you can only hear that so many times before you're just like, look, you said that yesterday, and I'm still here. | ||
| This is funny. | ||
| Maybe, maybe this is a white pill, right? | ||
| Like people are saying, you know what? | ||
| I don't care about the terrible thing that people are upset about on the internet today. | ||
| Maybe this is like my chance to read a story that has some levity. | ||
| It's silly. | ||
| It's funny. | ||
| And it gives me some respite from what has been a year full of people having an absolute territory. | ||
| Heritage fit about Donald Trump. | ||
| I would say yes, but the search volume for this story is extremely low. | ||
| The point is the search volume for everything else is lower. | ||
| This means that, you know, normally when Ozzy died, you had 10 million searches because that was something impactful culturally that we were all uniform. | ||
| Like everybody knew Ozzy. | ||
| So everybody was like, what just happened? | ||
| We don't have shared culture anymore. | ||
| So even though this is the biggest story, it's the lowest common denominator. | ||
| If the New York Times says we need clicks, if they write a Trump story, they're not going to get clicks. | ||
| People are either saying, I don't care anymore, or your opinion about Trump is wrong. | ||
| But the raccoon, 50,000. | ||
| This is the death of American media. | ||
| I think, you know, one of the reasons we focused very heavily on memberships is because this is something I've been predicting for a while that volume-based media is cooked. | ||
| If you want to run a company and you want to make money to pay your employees, you need actual paying members. | ||
| If you're going to try and operate off ad sales and volume, it's not going to happen moving forward. | ||
| Well, even views-wise, if you're talking about that type of, when you said when Ozzy died, who else died around that time? | ||
| I don't remember if that was Michelle Trachtenberg, but we covered there was like three or four deaths that all happened around that time. | ||
| And we covered them each day on the show to varying degrees of volume of people watching the clips after the fact. | ||
| And the Michelle Trachtenberg one did really, really well because it fell in line with what our channel covers. | ||
| We cover less music. | ||
| So like you said, everybody's kind of sectored themselves off into their own little corners of the internet. | ||
| And so you don't have great volume on a ton of other things because everybody's looking for something very, very specific to a niche group of people. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, this has been described by like some cultural commentators as the monoculture of the 20th century, where, I mean, because you had mainstream institutions, mainstream media institutions, so people generally were all on the same page with what sort of media they were intaking. | ||
| Obviously, the radio, the movie theaters, that sort of thing. | ||
| The internet comes along and democratizes everything. | ||
| No one is on the same page. | ||
| We can't create stars anymore. | ||
| So there's no touch points for people. | ||
| And that's how you just get further and further atomization on media intake. | ||
| There's no stars. | ||
| We can't create stars anymore. | ||
| All that's left is small furry animals. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The lowest common denominator. | ||
| So I was talking about this the other day. | ||
| I did a Tim Pool show podcast on brutalism. | ||
| There's this great video where Sheehan Quirk talks about how you've got this great architecture along the Thames River with these like fish around these lampposts and everyone gathered around and stood in awe and they all had a contest. | ||
| And now they just build black posts. | ||
| They're ugly LED posts. | ||
| And why do we have big gray blocks? | ||
| It's exactly why we have drunk raccoon. | ||
| To be fair, I like drunk raccoon. | ||
| It's funny. | ||
| But the reason why your McDonald's no longer has a play place, the reason why Pizza Hut no longer has its stylized structure and is a gray block strip mall delivery project is because the people who come to this country, the 53 million migrants, do not share your values. | ||
| And so if a company says, I want to sell as much product as possible, they have to cater to the community. | ||
| So McDonald's, what do they do? | ||
| They build a playpace, a play place. | ||
| They put a grimace because they want the kids to be like, I want to go to McDonald's. | ||
| Well, people don't have kids anymore. | ||
| Then what happens? | ||
| Well, if they made American flag McDonald's, the immigrants who show up aren't going to be enticed by that. | ||
| So they say, then just reduce cost across the board. | ||
| What happens? | ||
| Big gray blocks instead of beautiful Roman architecture because no one's going to vote to approve a style of art that is not part of their traditional culture or their worldview. | ||
| Drunken raccoon is appealing to liberals and Democrats alike. | ||
| I'm sorry, liberals and conservatives alike. | ||
| So when they run the story, everybody clicks it. | ||
| If they run a story about Trump, no matter what, they will get heat for it. | ||
| So this is your lowest common denominator news, and it's not even getting that much attention. | ||
| Despite it being the biggest story, it's getting, I do want to be fair. | ||
| Welcome to the end of the year. | ||
| Thanksgiving just happened. | ||
| We have two weeks of work left, and everybody is counting the days and staring at the calendar. | ||
| Yeah, it's like a QB and Eil. | ||
| Everyone's just waiting to talk out. | ||
| I thought a big part of the reason why all of the stores look the same now is because they want to be able to sell that real estate if the store goes out of business, right? | ||
| Like the like when you sit when you sell a pizza hut now and some other business is there, you know exactly what used to be there before. | ||
| It lowers the resale for the for the for the land, right? | ||
| There's a bank out here that's a daycare center. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And where like the uh they they built the playground under the drive-through bank teller thing because it's covered and you can tell it's a bank. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I mean, the economy always wins. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If you can can make sure that your building is resalable, that's going to be the motivating factor for everything. | ||
| Yeah, I think that there is validity to the fact that there are fewer children. | ||
| But I mean, you go to, I was just at a Chick-fil-A a couple weeks ago, and there was a playground built into it. | ||
| So it was indoors. | ||
| It wasn't like the outside one. | ||
| So I imagine you could pull it down and still, you know, use the space or something. | ||
| But, you know, I think that it's more about keeping the value of the real estate than anything else. | ||
| And this story also, I think, because it's for an American audience, is really shocking. | ||
| But like I was recently in Glasgow in Scotland. | ||
| If you walk down Sakiel Street there, you will see animals, humans, all sorts of creatures plastered all over. | ||
| They're just like what do you call it? | ||
| Like police sketches, like murder sketches. | ||
| So I think this is really jarring for an American audience, but I think maybe for the international audience, this wouldn't resonate. | ||
| Like I see this every day. | ||
| This is called being from Glasgow. | ||
| See, this should be turned into a movie right here. | ||
| We should get a drunk raccoon, like live-action adult animation, brother. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| Someone can easily just make the trailer for you right now. | ||
| It must be security camera footage of this. | ||
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Yes. | |
| Well, I mean, have they not released it? | ||
| Well, there's always those possibly bears. | ||
| Like, there's always the videos like the bears that break into convenience stores and get into the food and stuff like that. | ||
| We need to see what the police response was like. | ||
| I mean, did they rough up this raccoon? | ||
| That's a real question. | ||
| Shall we actually talk about news, though? | ||
| Sure, why not? | ||
| So we got the story from Yahoo. | ||
| It's actually a republish from MS No One Watching. | ||
| Democrats shouldn't celebrate losing in Tennessee. | ||
| Why, yes, just the other day, Afton Bain lost, and Matt Van Eps won in the special election in Tennessee by nine points. | ||
| And the Democrats are celebrating because in 2024, this was an R plus 22 district. | ||
| And now people are saying, you see, this shows the weakness of the MAGA base and stronghold, which is being ripped asunder. | ||
| They're wrong and they're stupid, but at least I'll give them this. | ||
| MAGA is absolutely getting torn apart, ripped to shreds. | ||
| And, you know, that being said, Turning Point USA just came out and formally addressed Candace Owens, who then said that she's going to, she'll debate them or whatever. | ||
| And I'm like, you see, this is the problem, I guess. | ||
| This is the coalition is crumbling. | ||
| But that being said, Matt Brainerd has an excellent post breaking this down where he says the media will make a big deal about how much closer the Tennessee seven special was in the presidential as some kind of referendum. | ||
| But this is fundamentally dumb, don't fall for it. | ||
| What he basically says is that in 2024, a longtime incumbent ran with zero primary, Mark Green, and outspent the Democrat $2.2 million to $1.2 million. | ||
| He won by 21.5%. | ||
| In the 2024 presidential election in the district, effectively zero money was spent by either presidential campaign, and Republicans were energized in a state they were always expected to win. | ||
| In this special election, basically what he's saying is Democrats dumped tons of money into it, and Republicans barely paid attention. | ||
| They expected to win. | ||
| They didn't care that much, and Democrats had nothing else to focus on. | ||
| So they focused heavily on spending money to try and rip down the slim Republican majority. | ||
| But in the end, the Republicans still win. | ||
| And the expectation is going into 2026, when you have an energized base, a then incumbent, and a lot more money, no one is going to spend money in this district. | ||
| The point being, it is safe red. | ||
| Even when Democrats invested, they still lost. | ||
| Sure, it shifted leftward because they were trying. | ||
| But come 2026, they are going to focus on swing districts, and this ain't one of them. | ||
| This is safe red. | ||
| So this is not a referendum on anything, but can't say I'm surprised Democrats are all celebrating. | ||
| It's not just about claiming a victory. | ||
| It's about telling their base they can win and trying to keep them energized for 2026. | ||
| So my response to Matt is Democrats know full well it's a meaningless victory. | ||
| What they want is a moral victory where they can claim, guys, we are gaining ground. | ||
| Let's get energized for 2026. | ||
| And then the question is for everybody, who's going to win in 2026? | ||
| I mean, well, I still think that it depends on the economy, right? | ||
| Like if the economy is doing well, then Republicans can win. | ||
| And they're not a shoe-in because of just historically in the, you know, the follow-up to a national campaign or a presidential campaign where one party wins, the other party does better. | ||
| If the economy is not doing good, the Republicans are going to get trounced. | ||
| And I don't think that there's a whole lot of, like, this isn't some kind of like brilliant insight. | ||
| This is a pretty obvious situation. | ||
| So based on your analysis of it, do you think that then this worked for the Democrats in their favor, that their audience will believe that this should energize them going into 2026 because they can give this very, very simple narrative that they made inroads here, despite the fact that obviously what you're saying or what the guy who wrote that article was saying is saying that it's not that simple? | ||
| I would say that Democrats, like Candace Owens, rely on an ignorant audience base that won't actually look into evidence and will just blindly believe what they're told. | ||
| So instead of actually looking at the data, looking at the spend, like Matt Brainerd is pointing out, they just say, wow. | ||
| And it works. | ||
| It really, really does. | ||
| You'll get a massive base. | ||
| And your lowest common denominator is going to be seventh grade reading level and lower. | ||
| So if your lexicon is a bit too verbose for these people, they're going to avoid your content as they can't understand what it is you're trying to convey. | ||
| Well, I'm the seventh grade reading level here, so that's right for that. | ||
| And don't forget, reading comprehension doesn't just mean the size of the words or their obscurity. | ||
| It also means your ability to understand what it is you're actually reading. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, like I said, it's lowest common denominator frequently wins. | ||
| So, you know. | ||
| Indeed. | ||
| At what point do you start worrying going into 2026 economically? | ||
| I'm worried now because Republicans suck. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Trump needs to stop saying things like affordability is a hoax. | ||
| That really does need to be aware of. | ||
| Stop holding up the stock market as an indicator of well-being. | ||
| It's not working for the base. | ||
| You have some like really odd indicators that are like that are showing the morale of the United States is really poor right now. | ||
| For one, I think it was the business insider had an article that said 33% of people between 25 and 34 expect to lose their job in the next year. | ||
| If you have a third of your young people just expecting to lose their job for, and they gave a variety of reasons, the main one was just that the job would be redundant. | ||
| That's not good for morale. | ||
| That's not that's young people need to be able to invest in things and expect that they're going to get a return out of it. | ||
| I think that that is because of a lot of AI hype. | ||
| A mixture of AI hype and immigration. | ||
| I would say those are the two things. | ||
| And also, I think they just see that. | ||
| Look, a lot of these companies just lay off people seemingly at random all the time and typically replace them with H1Ps. | ||
| This is 270 to win the 2026 House election. | ||
| Yeah, I'm sorry. | ||
| Like Tennessee 7 is not, it's safe red. | ||
| There's no expectation that anything, no one's going to spend money in there. | ||
| However, you take a look at a bunch of these other districts that are toss-ups. | ||
| This is where Democrat money is going to go. | ||
| And that's where we don't know exactly what will happen. | ||
| And Democrats do have an opportunity to take the majority. | ||
| Right now, Republicans are favored just in size. | ||
| 209 likely victories to Democrats, 206, but there are 20 toss-ups, which means Democrats could absolutely win. | ||
| And the problem is there's a handful of issues that matter. | ||
| The first and most important is the cost of living. | ||
| Republicans are viewed more favorably than Democrats, but Donald Trump is going on TV and saying grocery prices aren't up. | ||
| They literally are up quite a bit, and it's terrifying. | ||
| And if Trump and the Republicans are going to play the game of I'm going to plug my ears and say no over and over again, you're not convincing the working class dad who literally went to the grocery store yesterday and is spending $800 a week. | ||
| When you say they're not up, grocery prices are down, he's going to be like, are you insane? | ||
| And then, to be honest, so long as Democrats just keep shrieking about the color of their skin or who they want to bang, that poor working class guy is going to be like, I don't even know. | ||
| I guess I'll vote for Republicans. | ||
| But some Democrats in the congressional districts, they've already had this post-mortem report where they said you need to shift on this message. | ||
| If swing Democrats go heavy into economics and Republicans aren't, Democrats win. | ||
| Well, that's weren't they saying that's why Mum Donnie did as well as he did is because he stayed on message as far as the economy. | ||
| So if they can do that, if they can get out of their own way and actually focus on things that matter rather than race and gender, then it feels like it would be very easy for them to it should be. | ||
| Those can be tertiary issues. | ||
| They can talk to you know minority groups, the you know, identity groups and say, look, we actually care about your particular issues. | ||
| But if they're not talking to the average person saying, look, we have a plan that is going to help you economically, then they're not going to be able to get people to vote for them. | ||
| And they don't. | ||
| No, they don't. | ||
| They don't. | ||
| And not only that, the base wants a lot more. | ||
| The base wants immigration enforcement. | ||
| They're getting an arrest of corrupt Democrats and it's not being delivered upon. | ||
| The immigration stuff, for the most part, is actually, you know, C, B, minus pretty good. | ||
| But that's the base. | ||
| That's the politicals. | ||
| That's the esoteric. | ||
| These aren't the people who are reading stories about drunk raccoons on a bathroom floor. | ||
| Those people are just like, oh, yeah, there's no, obviously, the raccoon had to steal the booze. | ||
| He couldn't afford it anymore. | ||
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| It's expensive. | ||
| Indeed. | ||
| The highest IQ among us saw the story a day earlier, and then we passed that along to our journalists, friends. | ||
| It's like the raccoon story. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| I did see it and I didn't care. | ||
| And now it's reached. | ||
| Again, I will stress, like, it is actually pretty scary when 50,000 searches is the fourth biggest search for trending stories. | ||
| It used to be millions every day. | ||
| It used to be hundreds of thousands on small trends. | ||
| It's a combination of no one uses Google anymore. | ||
| They're shifting to all the different AIs for search, but that is derivative. | ||
| It's not actually linking you to the source material. | ||
| So it just looks to me like culture is completely bifurcating. | ||
| And I will give you my projection with, you know, we talked about it last night in the members only show with Nick Freitas. | ||
| Because he contested my assessment when I said, if Donald Trump wanted to suspend habeas corpus, we are on the same track as 1861. | ||
| And he said, absolutely not, because seven states had already seceded at that point. | ||
| My rebuttal was that more than seven states have already violated federal law by allowing illegal immigrants and utilizing that to seize federal power. | ||
| Yeah, it is worth noting that back in the, you know, before the Civil War, there was still kind of the general idea that states could secede, right? | ||
| Like when the Constitution was signed, they said, well, we're going to join this country. | ||
| And it was kind of a given that if they felt like they wanted to leave, that they would be allowed to. | ||
| And my point was, where we are at right now with the election of Zorhan Mamdani in New York, we already saw right when he got elected, something like 40,000 people and businesses had fled New York City. | ||
| Already half a million left over the past several years from Manhattan specifically. | ||
| New York has, I believe, around 11 congressional districts. | ||
| And you had back in 2018, Crowley v. AOC. | ||
| And Crowley was your neo-lib, typical, you know, urban liberal fat incumbent. | ||
| And AOC was the progressive upstart. | ||
| When she won, she moderated quite a bit. | ||
| She's still a lefty. | ||
| She's still pretty far left, but she pulled back on certain issues that resulted in criticism from the far left. | ||
| AOC is now the moderate for the district. | ||
| Because the conservative leaning individuals are all fleeing, now all that's left is left and far left, which means when left and far left compromise, you get further left than AOC. | ||
| So what is it? | ||
| Now they're talking about primary, who is it Hakeem Jeffries, maybe? | ||
| I think so. | ||
| Where is he? | ||
| He's in New York, right? | ||
| He's in Brooklyn. | ||
| He's in Brooklyn. | ||
| Yeah, there's talk of a socialist candidate primaring Hakeem Jeffries. | ||
| And he's the leader of the Democratic Party in the House. | ||
| So they want to, what's going to happen is, as more conservative-leaning people flee blue districts, those blue districts will become communist explicitly. | ||
| They will send members of Congress to D.C. who are explicit communists. | ||
| They will then vote for communism. | ||
| And you are going to have this increasing polarization where in the federal Congress, if Democrats win, they are going to vote for outright communist law. | ||
| That's going to result in Nebraska being like, no way will we abide by that federal law. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| That's what geographic hyperpolarization is doing. | ||
| And the danger with Democrats winning in 2026 is not just that Trump gets impeached. | ||
| It's that you're actually going to have probably around 20% of the Democrats that come in being overt socialists and pushing bills and laws that will burn this country to the ground. | ||
| And to avoid the analogy innuendo, I will literally say they will enact policies that will extract value from the economy, that will drive up the national debt, disincentivize workers, incentivize mass immigration, which will displace low-skill workers. | ||
| Then they'll enact large minimum wage guarantees, which will destroy small businesses, and you will get a depression like that. | ||
| And then everyone starts fighting. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I don't imagine that Donald Trump is going to be signing bills that the Democrats put on his desk. | ||
| But I do think that in the next election, the next presidential election, if a Democrat wins and the Democrats still have control of the House and Senate, you're going to see serious bad policy that will get instituted. | ||
| Like the Democrats still want to see Medicaid for all. | ||
| And you're $30 trillion in debt in this country. | ||
| There is no way we can afford that. | ||
| And if you implement that policy, it will destroy the value of the dollar. | ||
| And there's a lot of Hollywood donors right now that are pushing more for Gavin Newsom even more, despite the fact that he's made Hollywood pretty much untenable for them policy-wise. | ||
| And he's going to, he would be one of those candidates that would be able to put those types of policies into effect. | ||
| And it would be hard for Republicans to push back if they lose the House and the Senate. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Just the fact that they would have the control of the House means that, just like Tim was saying, impeachment stuff the entire time, there will be nothing that will get done. | ||
| People will blame the Republicans because they're going to say, oh, well, Donald Trump didn't get anything done. | ||
| He was in office for four years. | ||
| And it only makes it more likely that the Democrat wins in 2030. | ||
| Well, and people are kind of, they have an issue with Republicans right now because they feel like they can't get their crap together, right? | ||
| They feel like everybody's fighting with one another and nobody's presenting United Front and everybody's off on these side quests when they're not focusing on the things that they should be. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And the Democrats, they're really good. | ||
| They're much better at the Republicans at building up political capital and then spending it in various places. | ||
| The Republicans don't really understand this. | ||
| The Democrats understand that, hey, you can just battery farm foreigners in your country until you have the voter base to then push across the finish line stuff like Medicare for All. | ||
| Because all of this policy that they've been pushing over the last few decades, they had to wait till Obama to really start pushing. | ||
| All the Obama agenda policy was being discussed in the 1980s, but they had to wait. | ||
| They had to wait until they had the political capital built up to then cash in and start passing a lot of these different things. | ||
| And so that's exactly what's happening again. | ||
| They need to get back in control. | ||
| It's not going to be like day one where it's just going to be like they're going to be spraying and praying that they can keep the border open. | ||
| That allows them to rebuild the political capital they need to then spend on various nightmarish projects. | ||
| The big question, though, is, is the right unified? | ||
| We have the story from Mediight. | ||
| Charlie Kirk producer hits back at Candace Owens, accusing her of inciting harassment of those close to him. | ||
| Now, it is a bit, I don't know, drama to be talking about people instead of policy and politicians and not so much the politicians, but what they're doing. | ||
| But Turning Point did formally respond for the first time. | ||
| And the reason this story matters, it's not so much the people, it's is the right fractured? | ||
| And I'll tell you this right now. | ||
| The libertarians are already pissed at Trump. | ||
| And now MAGA is in internal wars following the death of Charlie Kirk. | ||
| There are people fighting each other left and right. | ||
| Marjorie Taylor Greene was unendorsed by Trump, then announced her resignation. | ||
| Then when Mike Cernovich tweeted at her, you need to serve your full term, she tweeted at him in the weirdest way, being like, men telling women to get in the kitchen and make a sandwich. | ||
| And it's like, actually, he's telling you to serve Congress. | ||
| I think it's kind of the opposite, but she's snapping off. | ||
| And now Candace Owens, of course, with the tweet she put out yesterday saying to demand a refront refund from the, quote, Godforsaken organization that is turning point USA, everything is being ripped apart. | ||
| It is creating a prime opportunity for Democrats to win because Democrats don't suffer these kinds of bifurcations. | ||
| They're cultists that that's how they're defined by their obedience to each other. | ||
| Don't forget all of your favorite right-wing influencers being exposed as being from India on X like last week. | ||
| Not only from India, but being paid by these, whatever this weird stuff is. | ||
| So we have this video. | ||
| This is from the Charlie Kirk show, and we'll play it for you here. | ||
| This is actually the tweet is Mikey McCoy says, not all that's done in the name of truth and justice promotes truth and accomplishes justice. | ||
| Thankful for the incredible Blake S. Neff and Dr. Frank Turek on the show today. | ||
| I'll be happy to address all of this in the live stream with you guys. | ||
| And here's the video. | ||
| We wanted to use this segment at the top of this hour to say something important, something very important. | ||
| For the past two and a half months, there is a topic that has flooded our Freedom Inbox. | ||
| It has been non-stop on social media, but which we have almost totally avoided on this show. | ||
| You probably already know what I'm talking about, which shows just how ubiquitous it has been. | ||
| Ever since Charlie's murder, Candace Owens has leveled a flood of allegations against people at Turning Point USA, people at Turning Point Action, and people who work for this show. | ||
| She has made them against some of Charlie's closest friends and against some of his most dedicated employees. | ||
| She has suggested that Michael McCoy, Charlie's chief of staff, knew Charlie would be murdered, was happy that he died, and stayed silent because he was told he would be the next Charlie. | ||
| She has suggested Michael is not his real name. | ||
| It is. | ||
| I have seen his birth certificate myself. | ||
| She has called it suspicious that Mikey's wife, who works at Turning Point, helped plan the campus tour event where Charlie was murdered, which she didn't, by the way. | ||
| She doesn't work on campus events. | ||
| Candace has suggested the Utah Valley University event was unusual and its details suggested a quote inside job. | ||
| She has claimed that foreign aircraft have followed Erica Kirk around the country and that Turning Point has lied about this happening. | ||
| She has accused us of lying about Charlie wanting Erica to take over for him if he died. | ||
| She has suggested Charlie's security team intentionally denied him first aid after the shooting to ensure that he died. | ||
| She has raised suspicions about the head of our technical team because he took an SD card out of a camera. | ||
| She has spread absurd claims that Tyler Boyer, who we just had on the show, sexually abuses male interns. | ||
| She has suggested that TPUSA faith-affiliated pastors like theologian Frank Turek, who we'll have on in a moment, and Pastor Rob McCoy are part of a military, quote, infiltration of Turning Point, either because they are veterans or because they have family members who are. | ||
| Even if not everyone has been named specifically, though, Candace has effectively tarred everyone here with complicity in Charlie's death by repeatedly saying he was, quote, betrayed by, quote, everyone. | ||
| She has said Charlie's murder, quote, had to be approved by Charlie's friends and then suggested those friends might have her murdered too for quote knowing the truth. | ||
| She has made claims of financial impropriety and fraud at Turning Point, adding up into the millions of dollars, which again is not true. | ||
| Charlie made sure the organization was audited by a third party every year. | ||
| He personally reviewed and he signed off on every expense report and literally every single bill paid by the organization down to a single United States dollar. | ||
| We have never missed a 990 deadline. | ||
| Candace has made other stranger allegations involving French paratroopers in maroon shirts, Egyptian Air Force planes flying out of Provo, Utah, and potential underground assassins traveling through unseen tunnels. | ||
| At one point in early November, she started wildly throwing suspicion on members of Utah Valley's soccer team for wearing hoodies. | ||
| I could go on. | ||
| There is always something new coming up, and none of it ever pans out because from the start, there has been nothing there. | ||
| The attacks and allegations from Candace are either lies or they are innuendos thrown around with a total, reckless disregard for the truth so that Candace can manipulate and string along an audience of people who don't realize they are being played. | ||
| Instead of being able to grieve properly after one of the most heinous murders in American history, a murder many of us had to witness, my friends have had to endure harassment from people who have gotten whipped up by what Candace is saying. | ||
| In fact, I would say we have suffered more harassment from these people than we have from Antifa supporters who overtly celebrate Charlie's murder. | ||
| And just like a lot of those Antifa members, many of these people take this delight in how gross and unpleasant they can be. | ||
| What our friends have had to endure is not funny and it's not insignificant. | ||
| It is evil. | ||
| I have seen it. | ||
| For months, we have received hundreds, thousands, I suspect, emails and calls asking us to respond. | ||
| People have wanted us to invite Candace on the show, but for a long time, our approach was to say nothing. | ||
| We did that for several reasons. | ||
| First, we thought that her prevarications were so absurd that nobody would believe them. | ||
| We shouldn't have to answer questions about secret tunnels or Egyptian Air Force planes. | ||
| That sort of thing is just, it's beneath contempt to respond to. | ||
| The second reason we've said so little, though, is because there's a good rule of thumb which Charlie followed. | ||
| Do not feed the trolls. | ||
| Focus on the mission. | ||
| Reviving America, uplifting young people, making heaven crowded. | ||
| Don't give air to people who want to tear you down and sow discord. | ||
| Lastly, we didn't respond because Charlie always viewed Candace as a friend, and we were holding out hope that she would return that friendship and stop what she was doing. | ||
| But a week from now, it's going to be three months since Charlie's murder. | ||
| Candace has not changed her behavior. | ||
| She has continued to spread falsehoods about Charlie's friends, and she continues to concoct new ones about new people. | ||
| She's using these falsehoods to enrich herself while dividing the conservative movement at an absolutely critical time for this country. | ||
| And far too often, we here have heard from ordinary people, people who loved Charlie and who Charlie loved so much in return. | ||
| These people have expressed the worry that we are staying silent out of cowardice or as some sort of tacit admission that some of the attacks are true. | ||
| Neither is the case. | ||
| Our silence has never been and it will never be equal to complacency or approval. | ||
| Still, we decided Charlie would not allow this to go on. | ||
| Charlie was not a coward. | ||
| Charlie was a fighter. | ||
| Charlie would not allow someone to spread lies about the people closest to him with impunity. | ||
| And he would feel ashamed if other people were stepping up to defend his friends while he never did so himself. | ||
| Candace has mentioned several times that the ball is in our court. | ||
| So here's what is going to happen. | ||
| In the near future, there will be a live stream here in Phoenix where we address in a clear and comprehensive way the claims and accusations, the false accusations that have been made against Charlie's family, friends, and the people here at Turning Point. | ||
| We plan to walk through everything carefully and thoroughly. | ||
| If Candace is available, we would sincerely welcome her participation in that live stream at our studio here in Phoenix. | ||
| At this point, we believe the ball is back in her court. | ||
| Our motivation for doing this is not out of any obligation to Candace. | ||
| It is about honoring Charlie. | ||
| We feel a deep responsibility to protect his legacy, his work, and the truth. | ||
| I feel that. | ||
| I owe Charlie everything in my life. | ||
| I feel it immensely. | ||
| And that is why we feel compelled to speak clearly and openly now. | ||
| We'll have more on this in the near future. | ||
| It is entirely possible that moving into this election season, we saw this with the Ron DeSantis fracturing, the conservatives, Trump-based fracturing. | ||
| Some were saying Trump's got to return. | ||
| Some were saying Ron DeSantis is the guy. | ||
| Before Trump announced he was coming back, I said I liked Ron DeSantis, would probably support him. | ||
| This is like 2022. | ||
| Then Trump announced he was coming back, and I said he's improved. | ||
| He's got better demeanor, better behavior. | ||
| And DeSantis really flubbed it. | ||
| Still, there is this fracture that exists, but it's like there's like a tacit alliance between those who are just traditional conservatives supporting DeSantis, getting behind Trump even though they don't really like him. | ||
| I think by the time the midterm comes around, there's a strong probability everyone's back on the same page because the Democrats are going to be coming out with insane policies that we all find ourselves at odds with. | ||
| However, as of right now, everything is fractured. | ||
| And I do think, I think Turning Point has, to a certain degree, some responsibility, not nearly to the degree that Candace Owens does, but and responsibility in they don't have what Charlie had. | ||
| Charlie is gone. | ||
| And without Charlie, you lose what made Turning Point and what built this coalition. | ||
| So when I say responsibility, I just mean like an organization without its captain is not going to do as well. | ||
| And there already are divisions forming. | ||
| That is, and take for it, whatever you will, the issues that we've had with Turning Point where, you know, we're not going to be there for whatever reason. | ||
| They've asked us to come back. | ||
| It's not possible at this point. | ||
| We have other commitments. | ||
| Then you have Candace Owens, who is doing everything in her power to destroy Turning Point, which is the principal unifying force, though it has faltered a little bit. | ||
| This division exists. | ||
| There are people I see on social media saying there's no division on the right. | ||
| MAGA's unified. | ||
| The left is trying to sow division. | ||
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Oh, it is, it is, it is fried. | |
| It is ripped asunder. | ||
| I mean, Tucker Carlson versus, you know, the Babylon B guys and the Megan Kelly thing they posted. | ||
| There's no unified right at all. | ||
| It is now a disparate faction of various anti-left, like non-left groups. | ||
| And whether they come together around their candidates, I don't know. | ||
| What I can say is there's, I know my rep. So when the midterm comes up, I already know who I'm voting for, right? | ||
| Riley Moore is fantastic, and it's nothing to do with whatever it is that's going on here. | ||
| So that might not speak to the midterms in the same way. | ||
| But there may be a lot of people that can't get behind the same candidates, and this division can result in people staying home. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| I mean, if people feel like there's no kind of unified voice on the right, they're definitely not going to go out to vote. | ||
| It's hard enough to get them to vote in the off, you know, the off-terms anyways. | ||
| You know, do you think some of this is because I don't follow the story? | ||
| I don't, but it's crazy because my ex-fee is just full of people talking about this. | ||
| And I just, I don't have any interest in following along with Candace Owens stuff. | ||
| Is it kept to Twitter, to X? | ||
| Is this something where it's not going to make its way into the real world? | ||
| No, it's everywhere. | ||
| It's everywhere. | ||
| And I think, like Candace tweeted at me earlier, and this is what she does. | ||
| Some account took a quote from Tim Castirelle out of context where we were discussing Candace Owens reportedly makes $10 million per year. | ||
| That's what Fortune said. | ||
| And the greater context for you guys watching, you already know this because you watched the show, was that does she really make $10 million? | ||
| Well, based on the views that she gets, she does one show that gets like 2 million views. | ||
| We do a bunch of smaller shows. | ||
| If we did one show, maybe it would be 60, 70% the size of hers. | ||
| We make more than 10 million. | ||
| I think Candace probably makes more than $10 million. | ||
| That was the context. | ||
| In that statement, I mentioned some people are obsessed with status, so they'll bot. | ||
| I didn't say she did. | ||
| They took it out of context, cut out the beginning where I literally say she doesn't bot. | ||
| She has a mass appeal so that she could then, or not so that, but that then she takes it. | ||
| And they're offering money now for proof that we bought. | ||
| She is, and of course, she didn't actually tweet Tim Poole does thing, or she uses vagaries because as I explained earlier this morning, a politician can't come out and say, if you vote for me, I will do thing to Social Security. | ||
| Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. | ||
| All of a sudden, you've got 775,000 people in your district and 100,000 are saying, what do you mean you're going to change the scheduling for social? | ||
| You can't do that. | ||
| That's going to screw me up. | ||
| So how do you do it? | ||
| You say, vote for me and I will fix Social Security. | ||
| Ask me how. | ||
| How will I fix it? | ||
| You don't know. | ||
| The first thing I'm going to do when I get in there is I'm going to go to these politicians and tell them you stop messing with it. | ||
| My people need their Social Security. | ||
| It needs to be fixed for the younger generation, for the older generation. | ||
| You don't actually say anything. | ||
| Otherwise, people get mad. | ||
| If you keep it as vague as possible, then people fill the gaps in themselves. | ||
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That's what President Obama did with the Hope and Change. | |
| That phrase was plastered everywhere, and everybody that saw it internalized it and decided what hope and change meant to them. | ||
| And there was no actual message from the Obama. | ||
| Like Kamala Harris forward. | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| It's because we're dealing with the lowest common denominator society. | ||
| So right now, another thing that I explained, as I explained in great detail why Candace is not botting, is that you can choose to diversify your content and try and find things that are appealing because politics is boring. | ||
| Hey, the raccoon story. | ||
| To be honest, our concurrent viewership is lower today from choosing to do that, but I don't care. | ||
| I thought it was funny. | ||
| And, you know, I mean, it is what it is. | ||
| We talked about it before the show. | ||
| I said if we do the raccoon thing, we're not going to have many viewers, but it's funny and we should talk about it because it matters. | ||
| But Candace is going the other route. | ||
| As vague as possible, as terrifying, true drama, true crimey, emotional, female-coded that she can. | ||
| I mean, and I really do recommend y'all watch her episode from yesterday where she was in love with Charlie Kirk. | ||
| Again, I clarify, I am not saying this derisively. | ||
| The way she describes, I'm going to say it again. | ||
| She's like, I texted him saying, I feel like an alien. | ||
| And he said, I feel like a time traveler. | ||
| And I'm like, yeah, that's romance novel stuff. | ||
| No, for real. | ||
| That's like romance novel writing for women where it's just like he looked at me and said, I must be like a time traveller and you're my alien. | ||
| And she was like, I was his wingman telling him what to wear. | ||
| You know, honestly, it sounds like she loved Charlie. | ||
| Charlie chose someone else. | ||
| And now she wants to burn down the world all around Charlie Kirk because she couldn't have it. | ||
| Rough. | ||
| Rough. | ||
| But I mean, I mean, in all seriousness, I think that's maybe reading a little bit too much. | ||
| I think really she's just like, how can I get views? | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Like, what if I said the assassination plot against me? | ||
| You know what she tweeted? | ||
| It was really funny. | ||
| She said, I can now say with full confidence that I believe. | ||
| She said that. | ||
| I can now state with full confidence that I believe Turning Point betrayed Charlie. | ||
| Wait, wait. | ||
| State with full confidence that you believe. | ||
| Why was there a point at which you weren't sure if you believed something? | ||
| Like, these are the vagaries of sentences that allow you to get by. | ||
| Like, I can say right now with 100% certainty, there is 100% certainty within my heart that I believe Candace Owens is trying to kill me. | ||
| Right? | ||
| You get the point. | ||
| It's that way. | ||
| She can't sue me for defamation. | ||
| Well, I never said I believed she actually, I've confirmed it. | ||
| I said I confirmed that I believe it. | ||
| And I can believe whatever I want. | ||
| Can't sue me for that. | ||
| From everything that I've seen, it just seems like she's fantastic at telling the story that she's telling when she's doing her job. | ||
| She's very good at what she does. | ||
| I don't know the validity of anything that's going on, but from the reaction she gets from the people that listen, she obviously strikes a chord with a lot of people. | ||
| Oh, there's a lot of people that are that are, you know, in my ex post or there's people, a lot of people in the, in the chat as well that are like very committed to the story that Candace is alluding to with no actual, you know, there's no, there's no there there. | ||
| She's not actually saying anything. | ||
| Well, that all kinds of innuendo. | ||
| That was a great point from Blake where he's like, she keeps, she'll say something and then abandon the storyline. | ||
| You know, it's like these planes, what's going on? | ||
| And then a day later, it's just, it's not even a thing anymore. | ||
| And now she's jumping back in time and being like, I heard Colvette was going to make millions off a deal with BB. | ||
| And Colvett's like, what deal? | ||
| There's no deal with BB. | ||
| And it's like, sure, I don't know. | ||
| Maybe he's lying, but why is she going back in time now to a previous statement? | ||
| Because it's just, it actually is remarkable because we talked about the other day when we were listening to her show. | ||
| She talks for a long period of time without actually saying anything of substance. | ||
| And I'm like, I guess that makes it easy to understand if you have a low reading comprehension, which is most people. | ||
| I'm not trying to insult most people, but that is most people. | ||
| So you're going to get mass appeal if you intentionally speak in a I'll put it this way. | ||
| Say as little as possible, but as many with as many words as you can. | ||
| But this is also politics adjacent to, this is a horrifying, tragic event that's adjacent to politics. | ||
| And a lot of people consume politics now as sort of a spectator sport anyways. | ||
| It's no longer something that people look into critically. | ||
| They just want to see their side win. | ||
| And this is kind of adjacent to that in a way, which means it's hit people a specific heart. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I also do think there's an element of main character syndrome among the average person. | ||
| And this nobody wants to believe that the world is boring. | ||
| And it's kind of funny because the world's actually pretty dang crazy if you're tracking all these stories. | ||
| But everybody wants to believe something fantastic instead of just that most people aren't part of any nefarious conspiracy plot. | ||
| They do exist, but not always. | ||
| You know, like Bowman came and pulled the fire alarm thing off the door. | ||
| I don't think he got into a secret cabal meeting in a skiff and plotted it. | ||
| He just impulsively did it. | ||
| I mean, I actually do think that the world is for the most part pretty boring. | ||
| Like a lot of times when we talk about this stuff, it's like you're curating news all day. | ||
| You're gathering stuff from across the country, whereas back in the day, you maybe saw your local paper, maybe you got some national news, but you didn't get the amount of access you have to just unbelievable amounts of information, which means now the world feels like it's more crazy and haphazard than it actually is. | ||
| So we got a super chat from Wyatt Caldenberg who says, just the cyber right cares, people in the real world are unfamiliar with Candace Owens, Tim Poole turning point. | ||
| This is just cyber drama. | ||
| It's not real. | ||
| You are wrong, my brother. | ||
| This was just over the holidays. | ||
| All I was doing was going out and bumping into random people. | ||
| And I mentioned this the other day. | ||
| I was at a steakhouse and I overheard people talking about a civil war because of the shooting in D.C. | ||
| This is major news. | ||
| All of this stuff is tied together. | ||
| And people used to say for a long time, Twitter is not real life. | ||
| And it was technically correct because it wasn't in the seats of power. | ||
| But as young people have aged into those seats of power, corporations and politics, that worldview absolutely is real life. | ||
| And, yo, I'll just say this. | ||
| Out in the middle, like we've had issues with skateboarding. | ||
| I go to a skate park and people are putting flyers of my face up. | ||
| It is absolutely everywhere in the real world. | ||
| There are people who made t-shirts of my face and they wear them at skate parks. | ||
| They're not fans. | ||
| They hate me. | ||
| So they made t-shirts with my face on it. | ||
| This stuff absolutely does make it. | ||
| I was playing poker on Saturday and there's three young guys and they brought up Candace Owens. | ||
| Candace Owens comes up, all them. | ||
| I was eating in a steakhouse, and there was a group of construction worker guys. | ||
| And when they got up to leave, they recognized me. | ||
| And one guy said, You really think Charlie's dead? | ||
| You really think, wow. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| And I said, Yes, I do. | ||
| I mean, we like our team knows his team. | ||
| Like, I was on the phone with some of them. | ||
| They were freaking out when it happened. | ||
| This is, and you know, one of the things I was talking, I can't remember what I'm talking about. | ||
| Is it maybe Jeremy Hambley or Jack Pesobic? | ||
| I was like, guys, this is regular people listening to this stuff. | ||
| This is mainstream entertainment. | ||
| The question is, though, how do you dissuade people from believing this kind of stuff? | ||
| You know, someone says, always, do you really believe Charlie Kirk is dead? | ||
| What evidence are you ever going to present to, you know, to prove to someone that he actually is dead? | ||
| I mean, I don't imagine that there is any evidence because people have already convinced themselves that, you know, even though they don't have any kind of hard facts, they're like, well, you know, and then they look at all the implications or all the innuendo and they're like, well, that does it for me. | ||
| You see it all the time. | ||
| People say, oh, you know, this is the way that it's got to be. | ||
| You can present all kinds of evidence to the contrary. | ||
| And they're like, well, you know, we saw it with the JFK files. | ||
| You saw, you know, people were like, oh, you know, that it was Israel that did it. | ||
| And there was very, there was almost no mention of Israel in the JFK files, but people that believe that it was Israel, they're like, well, the fact that they're not in there proves it. | ||
| You know, right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They were, yeah, when the JFK files came out, there was a viral tweet where it was like, anyone notice anything weird? | ||
| Which country wasn't named? | ||
| And then all the comments and replies are like, whoa, Israel's not anywhere in the files. | ||
| And it's just like, oh my god, the absence of evidence is proof. | ||
| Holy crap. | ||
| JFK refused to touch the walls. | ||
| That's right. | ||
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| Sure. | ||
| But I mean, the unfortunate thing is there's enough ambiguity in general around political murders, right? | ||
| Like, or attempted political murders, you know, the Trump assassinations, for example. | ||
| I mean, we haven't had the full story. | ||
| Very obviously haven't had the full story. | ||
| You know, and there are elements of the Charlie Kirk assassination that are ambiguous or questions or leads that haven't been followed. | ||
| It's people filling in the blanks. | ||
| It's wishful thinking. | ||
| But I mean, I just, there's just this general atmosphere, I think, of distrust that you just can't really do anything about. | ||
| And I mean, I kind of feel sorry for the turning point people having to address it in such depth because the more information that they give, actually, it's more for people to seize on. | ||
| We never missed the tax filing. | ||
| I mean, people are going to start to scrutinize the tax filings. | ||
| Well, they're already doing it. | ||
| Holy crap, man. | ||
| There was a video today. | ||
| I got a, I reacted to it. | ||
| I did a video where I watched it and I called him out. | ||
| There's this guy. | ||
| What's his channel? | ||
| I'm going to pull it up. | ||
| Explosive. | ||
| More fraud. | ||
| These people are evil. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I don't care if you're on the left, you're on the right. | ||
| I don't care if you're a Republican, if you're a Democrat. | ||
| Wolves and finance. | ||
| He's got 292,000 subscribers. | ||
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| You're getting attention from us. | ||
| This guy claims to be an accountant and he looks into these filings from Turning Point because lo and behold, it's funny. | ||
| He goes in the first video he made, which I largely debunked. | ||
| Not completely. | ||
| There's some points he makes that are interesting. | ||
| He's like, where are the 990 forms for three of Turning Point's shell companies? | ||
| They were supposed to be filed in May. | ||
| He says, they're missing. | ||
| They're missing. | ||
| No, they got filed in October, most likely, which means they weren't going to be made available for public review until they were reviewed themselves by the IRS. | ||
| And the government was shut down. | ||
| So now that they're available and you can read them, he says they've mysteriously appeared. | ||
| How convenient. | ||
| I'm like, no. | ||
| It's a month after the October filing date. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It's just narrative and framing. | ||
| It's exactly why people are good at what they do. | ||
| And I'm going to tell you why this guy is a liar, and he really crossed the line with this video. | ||
| I'm just, I'm sick of this stuff, dude. | ||
| This is why people are saying F politics because it's all a bunch of scumbags. | ||
| This guy claims an accountant. | ||
| Well, in his video, he says there's a company called 110 LLC, and they received over three years $1.4 million for social digital ad placement. | ||
| He then says, I went to the address and it's a parking lot. | ||
| It's a parking lot. | ||
| They can't just send money to a parking lot. | ||
| I'm here. | ||
| Where's the business? | ||
| There's no business called 110 LLC. | ||
| The reason why I'm calling him a scumbag and a liar is because as an accountant who goes over tax filings, he would know this. | ||
| And a lot of people don't. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| There are a lot of people who don't know how filing a corporation works. | ||
| We here at Timcast have probably 20 or 30 corporations because different pieces of intellectual property sometimes require their own limited liability corporation for a variety of reasons. | ||
| Tim, if you went to our address, our corporate address, you'd be like, where's the business? | ||
| I don't see a building that says Timcast on it. | ||
| What about Casper Coffee? | ||
| You find a building that says Casper Coffee on it. | ||
| So what he found is there is a politician in Arizona who uses this address and all of the suites listed for this business and others and has received payment from Turning Point. | ||
| He then pulls in and says, why are they sending money to a parking lot? | ||
| This is manipulation. | ||
| They're not. | ||
| They're sending money to a corporation whose registered address is at a strip mall, likely owned by an individual who utilizes their mail intake for business registration. | ||
| While this guy is claiming it's money going to a parking lot because this is how they manipulate people, Candace Owens also pointed out that her own lawyers are operating out of the same building as the feds. | ||
| And when asked about it, she said, it's just a registered agent. | ||
| So you simultaneously have in the comments, I think the first comment is earlier today, one of the comments was people insulted Candace for covering for calling this out. | ||
| You can't believe both. | ||
| That you can't have a registered address and that Candace can have a registered address. | ||
| If you believe that Turning Point was sending $1.4 million, Charlie Kirk's orders, by the way, that's his claim, to a parking lot, and the insinuation is that it's to pay off a politician because they're crooked, then Candace Owens works with the feds. | ||
| Candace Owens is a Fed. | ||
| And by all means, you choose your poison. | ||
| If Candace has, if her lawyers are working in the same building as the feds, then I'd say she's a fed because she chose this legal, this company. | ||
| She chose this law firm. | ||
| Why would she do it? | ||
| Oh, wait a minute. | ||
| No. | ||
| It's a Delaware address utilized by tons of corporations, including some federal agencies and many law firms. | ||
| And they don't actually work there. | ||
| It's just a registered agent. | ||
| Oh, well, that makes sense, right? | ||
| Okay, well, then this guy is playing the opposite game. | ||
| So you pick which lie it is. | ||
| That's why I'm sick of all of this stuff. | ||
| People are wondering why we chose to lead with raccoons today. | ||
| It's because this space is starting to fill up with desperate con artists, grifters, and scammers who are going to lie to you, manipulate you because you're ignorant of corporate filings. | ||
| That's not an insult. | ||
| Many of you don't understand what you have to do to file for a C Corp S Corp L L C L L P, etc. | ||
| Some of the things you may not have even heard of. | ||
| Many of you already know exactly what it is. | ||
| This guy says, I'm an accountant. | ||
| He knows exactly what he's talking about. | ||
| So when he makes a video like this, he's intending to deceive you because he gets 200,000 views on this and puts cash in his pocket. | ||
| I'm so over all of this stuff, man. | ||
| You want to talk about immigration and tax policy fine, but you know what? | ||
| The reality is you guys, our dedicated audience, clearly do care. | ||
| Most people don't. | ||
| They want drama, WWE BS, and they want to believe what they want to believe, and they don't want the truth. | ||
| Yeah, that's the TMZification of media. | ||
| I mean, it's a complete disaster because this is very serious stuff we're discussing. | ||
| We're discussing the country that's going to be left behind for your children. | ||
| That's what's at stake right now. | ||
| And people, yeah, they just want the slop. | ||
| They want the slop because it's entertaining. | ||
| It's very effeminate. | ||
| I mean, you can tell that the space is being dominated by women and like gay guys because the types of stuff being covered is ridiculous, unproductive, counterproductive, actually. | ||
| Because I don't know if you checked the last election result, Trump's president. | ||
| We have three years left to mop this mess up. | ||
| Not even. | ||
| If we don't win the midterms, they're going to start a new committee. | ||
| They're going to start rounding up people like Steve Bannon again. | ||
| Was it Bannon who said this? | ||
| He's like, I'll go to prison. | ||
| And many of you in this room will as well. | ||
| And so at this point, I mean, I got to say, like, this guy, I imagine what he's doing is he's like, oh boy, I'm going to get so many views from this. | ||
| That's why he's doing it. | ||
| And Candace, very much the same. | ||
| That's why for nearly three months, she has just said incoherent nonsense because it gets her views and makes her money. | ||
| And as the system burns down, we all suffer for it. | ||
| And that's why I think the left, for all we can complain about, they're willing to stand arm in arm and burn everything down. | ||
| The right is full of people who are going to run ads for gambling websites and soda products and then shill for India. | ||
| You know, I mean, a lot of times I think that it's because the people that are in the space on the right that are looking to capitalize on whatever is the hot topic, they don't have a particular belief in anything. | ||
| And I think this kind of goes back to a bit of what we were talking about yesterday with Nick, probably in the after show. | ||
| The right needs to figure out what it's for. | ||
| You know, what exactly are the goals of the right? | ||
| I don't even know if that's possible because there's such a widespread amount of views of the world on the right. | ||
| I don't think that you can all coalesce around that idea. | ||
| I think the individual nature of right-wing personalities makes that harder to do. | ||
| I think you, to a degree, you have a point because the MAGA coalition is considered the right nowadays. | ||
| But the argument between Dave Rubin and I forget who it was that he was talking to, but there are people that have very different views and they coalesce because they're against the woke. | ||
| They were against what the left had been doing. | ||
| And now, because the right is fairly ascendant and has political power, the right really needs to be able to deliver a coherent message as to what it is that the right stands for. | ||
| And that argument is being had. | ||
| Like we were talking about Oren McIntyre and other people in the space that are actually having real conversations about what is it that the right wants to do. | ||
| Well, it's why everyone scratches their heads. | ||
| Like when Trump's not on the ballot, Republicans perform poorly. | ||
| Everyone's scratching their heads. | ||
| Why is that? | ||
| Well, it's because Republicans define themselves and what they're against. | ||
| They define themselves and what they're opposed to. | ||
| Trump is the only figure in the GOP over the last 10 years that has provided a vision for America, that's provided what he is for, what he is pro. | ||
| And that's just like fundamentally politics 101 is you have to provide something that people can buy into. | ||
| This is what Reagan did. | ||
| I mean, you go back to Nixon. | ||
| This is what Nixon did. | ||
| Like these are conservative agendas that you can pass that are pro things rather than just holding back the Democrats. | ||
| That's fundamentally what Republicans have been for the last 50 years. | ||
| I understand why that's been a motivation for so many people because the things that the left has been pushing have been basically abhorrent to families, to a productive, successful society. | ||
| And so, yes, it has been a good thing that there's been a broad coalition on the right or in the not left, if you want to call it that, that have stood up against the things that the left was pushing until we get an actual coherent message. | ||
| I think this kind of backbiting and fighting is going to be predominant. | ||
| I'm going to grab one super chat that just came in before we jump to the next story. | ||
| And it's Hugh. | ||
| He says, Tim, I work in construction and experience the same thing. | ||
| My coworkers are all in on the Charlie Kirk conspiracies. | ||
| If the Republicans lose in the midterms, I believe that Candace Owens is wholly responsible. | ||
| She is one of the biggest podcasts on the right doing everything to go to war with the organization that helped get Trump elected. | ||
| Turning point specifically was going out and registering people to vote. | ||
| Without Charlie, it's in trouble. | ||
| Turning point needs to be able to go out and rally young people and register them to vote. | ||
| And she's doing everything she can to destroy that. | ||
| And that is going to, I suppose, it's going to rip out the coffers on the right. | ||
| There is no organization like Turning Point that exists anywhere else that has the resources and the reach. | ||
| And without Charlie, I'm not sure that they can make it. | ||
| But I can tell you this, Candace lighting a Molotov and throwing it through the window is not helping. | ||
| And it's the most demoralizing thing ever. | ||
| Additionally, all of the fucking cowards on the right who are too scared to say anything about her because she tweets at me talking shit or whatever. | ||
| And then a bunch of people come and flood our chat. | ||
| I could give a single flying fuck. | ||
| You can come and you can burn everything I have to the ground and I will happily live in a van down by the river. | ||
| I don't care to be number one. | ||
| I don't need to be number one. | ||
| What I care about is what is true and what will help this country and what works. | ||
| And she is a fucking scumbag. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And she's getting worse every day. | ||
| And she crossed the line. | ||
| She continually crosses the line every day, insinuating that Turning Point literally killed the guy who made them all rich. | ||
| And I have to, and I hear this in the streets. | ||
| And at a certain point, I'm like, holy shit, we're going to lose the midterms. | ||
| We're going to lose the midterms. | ||
| Then we're going to lose in 2028. | ||
| And it's because she's a piece of shit. | ||
| Because instead of saying, guys, let's come together and figure out how to work together. | ||
| She says the stupidest retarded crap. | ||
| And now everybody's running around divided and broken. | ||
| For what reason? | ||
| For literally what reason? | ||
| Now, guess what? | ||
| I'm not on the best of terms with Turning Point either. | ||
| In case you didn't remember, they didn't invite us this year and it's become a big thing or whatever. | ||
| I have nothing. | ||
| I can say I know what they are. | ||
| I know what they do. | ||
| And I'm glad they do it. | ||
| And if we don't get along, so be it. | ||
| I don't know that they make it without Charlie, whatever. | ||
| But what is the purpose of intentionally fanning the flames for three endless months of just nonstop retard shit, Candace? | ||
| Holy crap. | ||
| You know, initially in the beginning, she brought up some interesting things. | ||
| New photos had emerged and I said, wow, I even said this to Andrew Colvett at Turning Point at the beginning of October. | ||
| Now she's at the point where it is video after video where she's saying it's an inside job. | ||
| She's saying like, there's a video of the dude, Mikey McCoy, grabbing his phone and making a phone call. | ||
| And she's acting like that's weird. | ||
| And then you get this other guy who's claiming that the business is a parking lot. | ||
| Well, he full well knows business can be registered anywhere. | ||
| To be fair, it's not only just Candace and saying what she's saying. | ||
| It is all of these people who are like piranhas ripping the right to shreds. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| A lot of cowards on the right being unwilling to say anything about it. | ||
| Well, this is where we go. | ||
| The Democrats are trying to find a way back to reality. | ||
| They published this thing where they said, oh, we've got to, you know, it's called deciding to win. | ||
| And they said we have to address kitchen table issues. | ||
| Like hell, I would ever vote for someone like Elizabeth Warren or Gavin Newsom. | ||
| But what I think is likely to start occurring now is the grifter right is cannibalizing itself. | ||
| You are going to see the right now move from a populist base more to a neocon base. | ||
| Democrats are going to go to war internally over the far left. | ||
| And you'll see the emergence now of these deciding to win types, which, like Stephen A. Smith, will start agreeing with people like me and Joe Rogan. | ||
| And they're going to try and win back the ground. | ||
| And they're going to utilize the absurdity psycho reality of Candace Owens to rip people from the right so that Democrats can start winning again. | ||
| And that is the reality the right has to contend with. | ||
| Conservatives had a coalition. | ||
| Charlie helped build it. | ||
| Disaffected liberals came on board. | ||
| People like Candace are intentionally burning it to the ground. | ||
| Stephen A. Smith is coming out. | ||
| Bill Maher, even now coming out more reasonably. | ||
| The Democrats are going to reemerge. | ||
| Those that sold their souls for woke and to COVID are going to lose out and they're going to retire. | ||
| The AOC types, you're going to see her desperately try to moderate, but we're going to see in these swing districts, they're going to try. | ||
| Now, that being said, hyperpolarization, as I've already described, may affect New York and Los Angeles and Chicago. | ||
| So we will see. | ||
| Maybe it all just gets ripped apart anyway, and you end up with 15 different factions all fighting for power in the federal government. | ||
| All I can say is it is frustrating to look at everything that's happening in the world and realize, you know, for a brief moment, my friends, maybe this is a little bit too black pilled, but I'll say what I'm going to say. | ||
| It looks like victory a year ago. | ||
| It wasn't a long, protracted election. | ||
| It was a snap and done. | ||
| Trump won. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| And then one by one, cracks in this coalition begin to form. | ||
| For whatever reason, the falling of Daily Wire, the ousting of Jeremy Boring, he's gone. | ||
| Whatever it is going on with Daily Wire, I have no idea. | ||
| But for some of these guys, their views have gone down. | ||
| There's been heavy critiques. | ||
| There's the Israel and anti-Israel rights now fighting each other. | ||
| You see these cracks forming. | ||
| You get the Tucker Carlson, Nick Fuentes dispute, and now Candace Owens is trying to burn down Turning Point. | ||
| And so what it feels like to me is we're watching the ship sink. | ||
| Now, again, we don't need to be completely blackbilled all the time. | ||
| Maybe as we move into the midterms, people start to hyper-focus on politics once more. | ||
| Viewership will start to rise. | ||
| Money will be dumped into the space. | ||
| The year after presidential election, like 2021, it's always like this. | ||
| In fact, our viewership today, it's bigger than it was in 2021. | ||
| So there's things to be excited about. | ||
| And we did have infighting over the DeSantis stuff, but it is pretty dang frustrating to see all of the hard work that was put together to stop the far left lunacy fall apart. | ||
| But at least I can say this. | ||
| If the deciding to win Democrat types do push out the sellout corporatists and they do push out the woke far left, commie, whatever, maybe the Democrats will emerge as the alternative to the lunacy of the pathetic right and they'll start winning back people who will consider themselves disaffected Republicans. | ||
| Me and Tate were talking about the rise of Stephen A. Smith a while back. | ||
| Yeah, well, but to Tim's point, like, this is what's so frustrating is because it's almost cool to not take anything seriously anymore. | ||
| It's almost cool to be the person that's in on the secret and like, I have this hidden esoteric knowledge that sometimes the most boring reality is the reality, which is the reality that Trump is president. | ||
| This is the most viable option to save this country. | ||
| Get behind him because you do not understand what is coming for you when Trump, you know, if something, if this fails, if this project fails. | ||
| I just got someone pointed this out, and it's a great point. | ||
| This guy who made this video, Wolves in Finance, who he's like fraud at Turning Point, and he's like, I went to this address and said that I can't find the business anywhere. | ||
| There's literally a UPS store there. | ||
| He has discovered that the business is a contractor with an LLC registered to a mailbox at a UPS store, which was always allowed. | ||
| That's where they receive their mail. | ||
| And he's pretending not to know this. | ||
| So you know what? | ||
| You know what I want to talk about? | ||
| Something that's not political and it's funny. | ||
| Here's a story from Wired. | ||
| Men are betting on WNBA players' menstrual cycles. | ||
| Some sports gamblers are trying to predict WNBA players' performance and the outcomes of games based on the athletes' periods. | ||
| One betting content creator has dubbed it blood money. | ||
| And it's an old story from October, but I was watching a video where someone broke it down today and I was like, holy crap, that's right. | ||
| I wonder if they're more aggressive when they're having their cycle. | ||
| Well, they're just feeling down, I guess. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| So this is actually really interesting because, you know, Alex Stein always makes the joke that we should allow trans people in women's sports because then you can bet on them and you'll always win. | ||
| In the military. | ||
| And the military, yeah. | ||
| They say the whoosh of a dildo flying past your face, tribalistic chance, men making bets on your bodily functions. | ||
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Wow. | |
| This isn't a cult. | ||
| This is a day in the life of the modern WNBA player. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I'm just going to say it. | ||
| Nobody wants a WNBA. | ||
| Nobody does. | ||
| Does anybody here want it? | ||
| Do you want it? | ||
| No. | ||
| No, of course not. | ||
| Why does it exist? | ||
| Someone made the point that like a WNBA player getting pregnant is like a torn ACL. | ||
| You're just out for the season. | ||
| You're out for it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, but NBA players don't intentionally tear their ACLs. | ||
| Right. | ||
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| Yeah. | ||
| I saw that they were going for contract raises too with the new collective bargaining. | ||
| They want to get 20 bucks an hour. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| They say one prominent figure making and predicting these wagers who goes by Fade Me Bets Online has garnered thousands of likes and shares on Instagram for his menstrual cycle betting strategy. | ||
| He claims he's been correct on 11 out of 16 of his period-related predictions with about 68.75% accuracy. | ||
| What's kind of good, but also kind of bad is it brings more people to watch the WNBA. | ||
| But on the downside of that, it's usually just all gamblers said fade says fade me bets. | ||
| How does he know? | ||
| Decline to be named. | ||
| How does he know that menstrual cycles say? | ||
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| Follow him on Instagram. | ||
| I have pheromones. | ||
| Here's a quote. | ||
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Here's a quote. | |
| Yeah, follow me long enough. | ||
| He says, not everyone is the same. | ||
| Yes, they are a traditional 28-day cycle, but everyone's is different and it varies from person to person, month to month, says Amy West. | ||
| Fade Me Bets admits that predicting WNBA player performance based on menstrual cycle assumptions is more art than science. | ||
| His typical menstrual cycle prediction videos all start with vaguely menacing phrase, we've got a victim, boys. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| By this, he says the victim is the betting line. | ||
| The odds set out in the sports book that determines a person's payout, not the player herself. | ||
| He then shares predictions about whether a specific player is menstruating, ovulating, or in their late luteal phase, which occurs after ovulation and before the period comes. | ||
| For instance, he said this of Clark. | ||
| She is on the end of her late luteal phase, meaning a decrease in cardio, decrease in strength, decrease in aerobic system. | ||
| She's going to be tired more often than in a normal game. | ||
| Fade Me Bets told viewers to bet the under on Clark that game, projecting that she'd score lower than the number predicted by odds makers on sports betting apps. | ||
| And in this case, Clark did. | ||
| The teams need to hire the guy like from Moneyball to do this for the other team to start putting like saber metrics, start putting rating systems to their periods. | ||
| Yeah, they're going to time up the cycles because you don't want five players that all have like the same time. | ||
| So you need to like, when you're building your roster, you have to make sure everyone's spaced out across the world. | ||
| If they spend enough time together, they'll all sync up. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| I mean, you could do this for the men in the NBA, but when their wives have their periods, because they might not be playing well either because their wife is being rude to them at that time. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Frustrated. | ||
| Or maybe, maybe, like I said, maybe it makes them more aggressive. | ||
| They're angry. | ||
| They're having a bad day. | ||
| They got to get it out of their system. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think that's why a lot of them pick up multiple baby mamas so they cycle around. | ||
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| You know, here's the reality that I think everyone needs to understand with stories like this. | ||
| Guys, I work in media. | ||
| I produce a lot of content. | ||
| I've produced a bunch of different kinds of content from travel documentaries, news travel stories, and news podcasts more recently in the past several years. | ||
| Viewership and interest in politics is gone. | ||
| And it's gone because of people like Candace Owens and this other guy who, uh, Wolf and Finance is whatever his name is, who are lying too much. | ||
| But it's also just that politics isn't something that can be developed, it happens around you. | ||
| And so, what's happening now with stories like this is that if you look at what Gen Z is interested in, it ain't politics. | ||
| Millennials were very interested in this over the past 10 or so years because of Gamergate. | ||
| But this might actually be a very good thing. | ||
| If politics stops being pop culture, maybe people will start focusing on WNBA players' menstrual cycles instead. | ||
| They'll stop believing crackpot stories and they'll stop voting for stupid things. | ||
| And then voter turnout will decrease, but it will remain solid among those like us who deeply care about these issues. | ||
| I think the power of a well-told story or whatever is too powerful. | ||
| I think that, like, when we were talking about JFK earlier, how powerful was the discussion around the JFK assassination? | ||
| The only difference is now it happens at light speed because of the internet, whereas before it took longer for that to reach critical mass within society. | ||
| Well, I think, you know, we clip out this segment, it'll perform better than 90% of the political stuff that we do. | ||
| When we talk about space weather, it outperforms everything to guarantee. | ||
| Well, I mean, we got a big space weather story. | ||
| People are really fascinated to know about these solar storms and the auroras that are flying over everywhere. | ||
| And we've got 20-year high radiation. | ||
| Is that what it is? | ||
| I mean, we'll talk about it. | ||
| It's pretty crazy. | ||
| And then you see these planes falling out of the sky. | ||
| This stuff is all infinitely more interesting than tariff policy. | ||
| It also has more effect on the average person, right? | ||
| Like, the average person doesn't have a whole lot besides the entertainment value, the drama value of the Charlie Kirk story. | ||
| It doesn't affect their lives. | ||
| Whereas if there's solar flares that are going to affect the grid, that would affect everybody. | ||
| Well, it's like people. | ||
| Well, I was just saying, I mean, because people now, people on the right are discussing this is that, look, the major issue with democracy as a whole is that the more people participating, the worse the policy gets. | ||
| And it's kind of the same thing with political commentaries. | ||
| The more participation, the more eyeballs, in a lot of ways, the more watered down the discourse gets because, yeah, you're trying to capture the biggest audience possible, which incentivizes you to like Mr. Beast to fire your content. | ||
| No offense to Mr. Beast, but not great for political polemics. | ||
| So this is funny. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| WNBA fans react in disgust to news that men are betting on players' menstrual cycles. | ||
| How do they know it's men? | ||
| There could be women betting. | ||
| Oh, but why? | ||
| Cycles? | ||
| But hold on. | ||
| Like, why, why, why? | ||
| Women. | ||
| This is the thing about women. | ||
| The male view of this system is like, is there a mathematical formula that predicts behavior and outcomes? | ||
| And the women are like, you're mean and gross. | ||
| I mean, I think that there might be some of that. | ||
| I think a lot of this is meme betting. | ||
| Meme betting? | ||
| I don't know if they're actually paying close attention to the cycles or if they just think it's funny to put money down on a woman because of her menstrual cycles. | ||
| I would argue while the story gets attention because it's funny and weird, I mean, it's true. | ||
| Like, obviously, a woman's menstrual cycle is going to impact her ability to place physical sports. | ||
| Yeah, sports bettors are like actually the high-level ones obviously are like super pragmatic. | ||
| Like they're reading traffic, how much traffic there is for the away team on the way to the game because it's going to frustrate the players more. | ||
| And then they like, that impacts the money line. | ||
| Like there's so many factors that they the temperature for which the players have played in before because it might affect if it's hotter or colder out. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| These guys used to be like our botanists and our great scientists and now they're like tracking WNB players' menstrual cycles. | ||
| Brett, to your point, you know, the betting is different on NFL games depending on the weather, if they're if it's an outdoor stadium or whatever. | ||
| What a player's record is in cold weather versus warm weather. | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| Yep. | ||
| Indeed. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| There you go. | ||
| I mean, the edge is money. | ||
| You get paid, you know? | ||
| For your segments, because you do stuff that's both culture and politics. | ||
| Which ones perform better generally? | ||
| I don't, I, well, culture. | ||
| If I make a video about like, so I did a video the other day where it's an old video, but it got attention recently because this woman is suing. | ||
| She's a far-left activist, and some guy went to a convention. | ||
| It was the Asian Pacific Economic Convention or whatever. | ||
| And he was dressed down. | ||
| They told me he needed a jacket. | ||
| So he calls his wife and she comes and brings him a jacket. | ||
| He walks outside and there's protests everywhere. | ||
| He gets his jacket on and they won't let him back in. | ||
| So when he tries walking in, they grab him, they're throwing him. | ||
| And he's pissed. | ||
| So he goes to a secret service agent. | ||
| He says, How am I supposed to get in? | ||
| And they can't give an answer. | ||
| Then this woman walks up next to him and starts screaming people over profit over and over again like a zombie, just the top of her lungs. | ||
| When he goes to walk away, she follows him screaming and he turns around and just right hooks her. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| And she goes down, hits her head on a fence, and she like broke her jaw, got a concussion, knocked teeth out. | ||
| This dude just boom and she was gone. | ||
| And she had to get her mouth wired shut, a couple hundred thousand views on that. | ||
| I do a video about something very esoteric and political. | ||
| It's just not going to perform well at all. | ||
| I mean, perform well, 100 and something thousand on YouTube, and then, you know, like 30 or something on Rumble, and then maybe 30 on like Facebook and stuff like that. | ||
| But you make a video, like I'll put it this way: I could take a random video of a random guy punching another random guy and get more views than talking about politics. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, that's even true in our space. | ||
| We did, like, I had videos do better talking about Black Friday scams than anything to do with Marvel or DC, anything like that. | ||
| It used to be true that videos about Trump's incursion in Hollywood got people lots of views because he's always trying to, whether it's talking about Seth Meyers or any of these guys, him talking about wanting to make specific movies with Paramount Studios. | ||
| That stuff used to do very well. | ||
| Now it doesn't do as well as it used to because people are just over it. | ||
| Let's jump to this story from the post-millennial. | ||
| Women supporters swarm Manhattan Courthouse to glimpse Luigi Mangioni in court appearance. | ||
| Dozens of supporters began lining up over the weekend with some individuals camping out in front of the building in temperatures below freezing. | ||
| Repeal the 19th. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| To start. | ||
| I say that as a joke. | ||
| I don't. | ||
| It's nothing new. | ||
| Women love murderers and serial killers. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| So, so, so, what, what is up with this? | ||
| Uh, why do women want to be married to a murderer or to have sex with one? | ||
| Because he looks like he looks, because he's not Thomas Crooks. | ||
| They wouldn't want to look like Tom. | ||
| They wouldn't want a guy who looks like Thomas Crooks. | ||
| He's chopped. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| There's truth to that, but also like women have the fantasy of a powerful man that could do an immense amount of violence to do it to them. | ||
| To Bashar al-Assad, right? | ||
| I mean, like, he has a beautiful, very intelligent doctor for a wife. | ||
| He's dictator of Syria for however many decades. | ||
| As soon as he's ousted, she's gone. | ||
| It's beauty and the beast. | ||
| You know, the attraction of the beast is the beast is powerful and he, you know, can kill people or do what, you know, be a lord or whatever, but he is smitten for Belle and he won't hurt her. | ||
| So she has power through him. | ||
| It's the woman power fantasy. | ||
| I wonder if Assad's running like epic red pill pickup tactics on the streets of Moscow right now. | ||
| Do we know? | ||
| Like, do we have any updates on what he's up to? | ||
| He's just playing games, I think. | ||
| He's a big gamer. | ||
| Is he real? | ||
| Yeah, video games? | ||
| He's probably streaming right now. | ||
| It's hilarious. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Imagine being on like Battlefield. | ||
| He's doing dental simulator. | ||
| Fortnite. | ||
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Fortnite. | |
| Oh, dude. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's double tapping drug boats. | ||
| He's rebuilding Syria and Minecraft. | ||
| He's calling people the N-word on Fortnite. | ||
| He probably is. | ||
| Right now, he probably is on EU4 and he's just rebuilding Syria. | ||
| Like, this is what they took for me. | ||
| Like, brooding. | ||
| Yeah, no, this is really creepy. | ||
| The women are, the women are not okay. | ||
| I know the young men, like, that's where all the like, this is kind of this really annoying thing because conservative media really likes to talk down young men and be like, this is all your fault. | ||
| But it's like, I don't know. | ||
| I don't know if the, you know, to use layman's terms, the huhs are much in a much better situation. | ||
| I mean, this is really emblematic of a huge problem. | ||
| They're clearly mentally disturbed. | ||
| These are probably SSRI-ridden women and the SSRI usage among women. | ||
| This isn't a joke. | ||
| I don't, I don't, I don't think we're exorbitantly high. | ||
| I think it's, I think it's a fair assessment. | ||
| I do. | ||
| But this is just women in general. | ||
| The reason why true crime, like 50 Shades of Gray, this is what women want. | ||
| They want that book about the milking bull or whatever. | ||
| Morning Glory Milking. | ||
| Yeah, milking. | ||
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There you go. | |
| It's really good, guys. | ||
| Just give it a chance. | ||
| I obviously wouldn't accuse all women of this because certainly just some people are weird. | ||
| But a lot of women really love the story of a literal minotaur bull creature forcing them to perform acts upon the body. | ||
| And they love 50 Shades of Gray, where it's literally about, what was 50 Shades of Grey? | ||
| It was like a college student who couldn't afford to pay her bills and she signed a slave contract with a rich guy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's a billionaire. | ||
| She's sent to interview him. | ||
| Is that what it was? | ||
| Yeah, she's sent to interview him. | ||
| She's like a budding journalist. | ||
| But she's like at student debt. | ||
| And then he's like, you're going to sign a slave contract. | ||
| And she's like, yes. | ||
| Please. | ||
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She's that what the Pentagon contract was. | |
| So that's basically the point of Morning Glory Milking Farm, right? | ||
| That's all, it's all student debt. | ||
| They're just romanticizing their student loans. | ||
| Getting paid off. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| So, okay, is that the government's fault? | ||
| Is that the olive branch with the left? | ||
| It's like, okay, can we pay off the student loans and you guys calm down? | ||
| This is how we make money without having to actually work all day. | ||
| I'm going to AI generate a series of books where it's always about a young woman with student loan debt and then various creatures, animals, and men who are abusive but pay off their debt. | ||
| So we do one where it's like she can't find a job and pay off her debt. | ||
| So she goes to like a construction yard and finds an illegal immigrant and it'll be called something like, you know, Pedro, My Only Hope or something. | ||
| And then he's like, I will work construction and pay off your bills, but I'm illegal. | ||
| So if anyone finds out, I'll be deported. | ||
| And she's like, oh no. | ||
| And then like Trump's in it. | ||
| And then you can do just another one where it's like a race car driver. | ||
| You know, just like insert whatever you do. | ||
| You can do any tall handsome student loan debt. | ||
| You go to the liquor store with a raccoon and then he can help you. | ||
| You know, you steal enough liquor to pay off your student debt. | ||
| I got it. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| Hear me out. | ||
| It is a young woman who graduated college, but now has too much debt and can't find a job until she meets Voldemort. | ||
| And he's like, I want to kill all the muggles except you, baby. | ||
| And she's like, I'm into it. | ||
| You know, and that I'm, I'm about to make money. | ||
| I'm cooking right now. | ||
| I mean, just keep going. | ||
| Let's do some brainstorming. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Phil, what you got? | ||
| This does make perfect sense. | ||
| You know, considering the Twilight and, like I said, Beauty and the Beast and stuff, it's the typical woman fantasy. | ||
| And it's kind of gross because obviously this guy's a murderer, you know, or he's alleged murderer. | ||
| A murderer. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's this weird thing where it's like the degenerate aspects of sexuality are like encouraged and promoted in society. | ||
| So you have like these smut books and whatnot. | ||
| And on the men's side, like pornography is outright promoted at this point. | ||
| But then the healthy aspects of sexuality are like completely repressed and shamed. | ||
| Like men just simply like expressing romantic interest in women. | ||
| Even women like, you know, desiring to present themselves in more feminine ways, feminine ways, attractive partner, is also discouraged by society. | ||
| So we have this complete inversion where it's, yeah, the most degenerate aspects of sexuality are like praise and encouraged. | ||
| And this is a great example. | ||
| Like not the postmillenos reporting, but a lot of the reporting on this is framing this. | ||
| Like, isn't this such a wacky and wild thing? | ||
| Wow, isn't this crazy? | ||
| And it's not like just, it's not presented as terribly disturbing, which it is, which it is. | ||
| But this is, this is where we're going, I guess. | ||
| So, you know, I wonder what's, you know, what we talk about with the Neuralink stuff. | ||
| Apparently, there's like a big breakthrough recently where they can implant Neuralink cables or whatever into your brain really fast now. | ||
| And I was saying that, you know, people are going to plug their brain and then be like a knight fighting a dragon or whatever. | ||
| And, you know, that's obviously the family-friendly version of what's really going to happen. | ||
| It's going to be a raccoon in a liquor store. | ||
| Bro, you're like, first of all, if people have the ability to wire their brains and then experience any kind of reality they want, yes, there will be people who do liquor store raccoon simulator. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| But, bro, it's going to be a bunch of women being slaves for billionaires and minotaurs. | ||
| Not to be fair. | ||
| And billionaire minotaurs. | ||
| Werewolves. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| A ghost was one of the books. | ||
| Vampire. | ||
| Like, that was the weirdest. | ||
| Vampire's obvious, right? | ||
| But the ghost one was the weirdest one. | ||
| Like, how are you in a sexual relationship with a ghost? | ||
| It's like not even got a physical body. | ||
| Well, I mean, this ghost is Patrick Swayze, of course. | ||
| Oh, and if he concentrated really hard, he could touch stuff and move the penny. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Yeah, he had to go to the weird guy on the screen. | ||
| I kind of want to watch that movie now. | ||
| That's a classic. | ||
| But yeah, Neuralink's coming. | ||
| And none of this will matter in the end because everyone's going to live in the pod and eat the bugs. | ||
| Why can't there be any of these exciting fantasy books about a relationship with, I don't know, a producer at a media, alt media company? | ||
| Where's that at? | ||
| A powerful producer at a media company. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That'd be nice. | ||
| I'm just saying, I'm just, you know, spitballing any writers out there. | ||
| Are you going to pay off their student debt? | ||
| That's the question. | ||
| And you have to abuse them. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| That is really funny that they're always abused. | ||
| You know what I really was really funny is the Twilight series. | ||
| It's very, it was, it was very obvious what this chick was writing. | ||
| What was her name? | ||
| Stephanie. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| The lady wrote it. | ||
| I never saw the movies. | ||
| Well, it was books. | ||
| But it was like a high school girl, and then like the sexy vampire and the werewolf are like. | ||
| Stephanie Meyer. | ||
| Meyer. | ||
| That's what it is. | ||
| And the sexy vampire is like, I want you to be with me, Bella. | ||
| And the werewolf's like, I'm a sexy werewolf. | ||
| You should be with me. | ||
| And the sexy werewolf and the sexy vampire fight over the woman. | ||
| Obviously, that sold well among young women. | ||
| And then they made a movie about it. | ||
| And then the funny thing is, 50 Shades of Gray was fan fiction. | ||
| It was Twilight Fan. | ||
| Like Edward was abusing Bella. | ||
| Is that what it was? | ||
| Twilight fan fiction. | ||
| I will live longer because I don't know the answer to that question. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| Yeah, it's female degeneracy on display. | ||
| And it's obviously because the media can't bring themselves to criticize women. | ||
| It's always portrayed as either quirky and silly or just outright something that you shouldn't have to do. | ||
| Because they prepare the audience for it, right? | ||
| They can criticize porn because they can criticize the men who watch porn, but they don't want to criticize the women who do it because that would be slut shaming. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, that's been the good, it's been the big like dilemmas, the good man scarcity, that Scott Greers name that's like, yeah, they just slam men all day, and that's all, most of it's justified, but it's like, that's kind of everyone young, it's struggling. | ||
| For a lot of the women, you're not allowed to criticize individuals, right? | ||
| Like I was doing this thing earlier where this woman wrote this very long article about Ariana Grande being as skinny as she is now and talking about the return of women that look like stick thin. | ||
| And basically she's like, I'm not here to body shame her. | ||
| I'm not here to shame her or any of these other people. | ||
| It's the system that causes it. | ||
| It's the system that makes it popular. | ||
| Hollywood is now pushing skinny women again. | ||
| Therefore, it's their fault, not an individual's fault. | ||
| The issue that I see with everything is the granularization of culture that is only going to continue. | ||
| And we talk about it quite a bit. | ||
| As we mentioned, it used to be that you had five TV channels, 50 million people watched one show, and everybody the next day was talking about the one thing they all saw and they all agreed on. | ||
| Now, everybody's watching something random. | ||
| No, Stranger Things Season 5 is like the closest you're going to get to that. | ||
| I can't even stand watching it. | ||
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I try. | |
| I turned it off right away. | ||
| I mean, I'm just saying that's what is child rape in the beginning of the show. | ||
| Look, I didn't see that scene. | ||
| Like, but the first scene. | ||
| But I'm saying, I didn't want, I'm saying I'm not watching Stranger Things. | ||
| I'm saying, but that's the point. | ||
| Like, if you go look at my feed right now, it's people talking. | ||
| I guess not right now. | ||
| It's already been a week. | ||
| It's already out of people's minds. | ||
| But that's the last show that I've seen in a very long time. | ||
| Release it all. | ||
| Next to Game of Thrones is a show. | ||
| Yeah, I think they did the whole season all at once. | ||
| And then part two is, I don't know if it's another thing that kills shows. | ||
| The weekly release was a good idea. | ||
| Weekly release. | ||
| You know, game of no, because culturally, the weekly release made a moment in which everyone was sitting watching the same. | ||
| I know why they do it. | ||
| I just hate it because I want to watch it. | ||
| It feels like the grand finale of MASH was like a third of the country watching. | ||
| We're never going to get that again. | ||
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Never. | |
| We can't. | ||
| It's again, the monoculture is dead. | ||
| We can't create stars. | ||
| And stars are actually really important for culture because that provides you with touch points for everybody. | ||
| Like, think about LeBron and Tom Brady, but the last great star athletes. | ||
| Generally, you're correct, but the Patriots are like 10 and two right now or something like that. | ||
| And so that can bring half the country to half the country together to hate them and the other half to love them. | ||
| Look, look, look. | ||
| When we look at Google Trends at the beginning of the show, and we can see that 50,000 is like the top trending story right now. | ||
| To be fair, the number one is 200,000, but it spiked and then collapsed. | ||
| People aren't using Google anymore. | ||
| They're using ChatGPT. | ||
| On X, they're using Grok. | ||
| But the average person, I believe, I believe ChatGPT is probably the most prominent. | ||
| People are already entering isolated individual universes. | ||
| There are tons of stories popping up where people are on Chat GPT and they're marrying their avatars that they're creating. | ||
| They're creating stories. | ||
| One guy thought he was Einstein and discovered a new mathematical theorem, but it was gibberish nonsense. | ||
| We are all ready here. | ||
| When we're talking about the end of the monoculture, people need to understand. | ||
| I would estimate a double-digit percentage of America are already spending all their time on ChatGPT and just being told what they want to hear. | ||
| This is going to transform once we get instant universal video generation, which Grok almost is. | ||
| You can go on Grok and you can generate basically, I'm pretty sure it's unlimited videos. | ||
| When you go on Grok to make an image, it makes like 12 images at once. | ||
| Then you can click it and turn it to a video. | ||
| We'll mess around with it on the uncensored portion of the show and we'll show some examples. | ||
| People are already probably just creating their own miniature universes. | ||
| And every year it's going to exponentially increase. | ||
| And I think it's intentional because the average person is going to tune out the news. | ||
| They're going to tune out culture in general. | ||
| They're going to make as little money as they need just to sit in their room and watch the fake, fake virtual world they want to live in. | ||
| And then once they create the fake virtual world, they're going to beg Elon Musk to plug their brain into it. | ||
| We're going to go to your chats and Rumble rants, my friends. | ||
| So smash the like button. | ||
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| Cheeseburger says Mike Lindell is running for governor of Minnesota. | ||
| His campaign slogan should be: If you vote for Tim, you'll get tampons in the men's room. | ||
| If you vote for me, you'll get pillows in the bedroom. | ||
| It's a little long. | ||
| We tightened up. | ||
| Tighten it up. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I identify as tax exempt, saying raccoons going hard AF. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Something, yeah, there's something stirring among the creatures of America, I've noticed. | ||
| Like, they're getting a little more bold. | ||
| I don't know if you noticed, like, the deer, they're getting a little chippier than you. | ||
| They're always like that out here. | ||
| Coyotes, yeah. | ||
| Even the birds are like really mixing it up a little bit recently. | ||
| I don't know what's going on. | ||
| I think it's maybe Trump. | ||
| I think it's the vitality of Trump coming back in. | ||
| It's like really animating America's creatures and they're stepping their game up. | ||
| So, yeah, I don't know. | ||
| I think humans should be on the lookout. | ||
| Maybe they're coming for our throne. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Shane H. Wilder says, it drank rum, moonshine, and peanut butter whiskey. | ||
| Man, that sounds like a Saturday night with the boys. | ||
| All the raccoon needed was cigars at a poker table. | ||
| You're here. | ||
| Jesus Crisp says, How long until Candace has a source saying the Jews and TPSA conspired to get this raccoon drunk? | ||
| She can't let a raccoon have the limelight. | ||
| Ha ha. | ||
| Ladytite says, LOL, Steven Crowder still gets massive views and doesn't brag about it. | ||
| Maybe you should try the same. | ||
| Well, I've not called out anyone by name for getting lesser views. | ||
| So pointing out that we still do relatively well compared to most people in the space is not meant to humble brag or insult them. | ||
| No, no, no, sir. | ||
| Ma'am. | ||
| Shane H. Wilder says, Can someone tell these ladies like Candace and MTG to calm down? | ||
| You're acting like your mother, then maybe give them a Snickers bar. | ||
| You're not you and you're hungry. | ||
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No. | |
| Danger. | ||
| It probably works. | ||
| We could get the WNBA. | ||
| Devin Grissom says, Candace using a plethora of words without saying anything leads me to believe she was crushing it on high school essays that had word count requirements. | ||
| Ha ha. | ||
| Perhaps. | ||
| Same old man says, Tim, Candace is a liberal, which is why she is helping Democrats win and destroying TPOSA. | ||
| She never left the left. | ||
| I don't know that I agree with that, but I do think that the impulse is still there. | ||
| Metho says, Candace is turning my brother into an effing Groyper Nazi POS. | ||
| She is preying on people who are new to politics since Charlie was murdered. | ||
| Well, she's preying on anybody who's not paying attention and doesn't intend to watch anything beyond one video of hers. | ||
| And the problem is, you start watching that content, and if it's a movie or a TV show, it's a story, right? | ||
| And there's less harm in that because you're talking about fake characters. | ||
| But when you start doing it in the real world, it gets a lot harder if you're not willing to then watch all the content and then do your own research into whatever she's talking about and back up the claims because you can't just go based on that. | ||
| This happened in COVID. | ||
| I think a lot of this started in COVID because people lost their trust in the system during COVID, and a lot of people were exposing a lot of malfeasance from the government. | ||
| But it became a bit of a, you know, like a show for a lot of people to look at people talking about these things and exposing them now. | ||
| So it's a lot harder to pin down where reality ends and the show begins. | ||
| At least it feels that way. | ||
| Man, Quantum Cool says the Republican base is fractured. | ||
| However, if we can push back the Democrats enough, they will go the way of the Federalists before the Republican Party splits in two and becomes two different pro-IS parties. | ||
| It would be great. | ||
| So I have no problem with the name of part. | ||
| I mean, like, if the idea, if the Democrats actually became normal again and got rid of the commies and the corporatists, then sure, fine, right? | ||
| If you had a Democrat pop up for Congress who was like, you know, Stephen A. Smith isn't perfect because he still tries to pander. | ||
| But if you, if, well, I guess the problem is the Democrats, you'll never, you'll never, you'll never win because they're all insane. | ||
| So no. | ||
| Fetterman 2028, I'm telling you. | ||
| But Fetterman still votes for the stupid stuff. | ||
| So I guess what I'm saying is, I'll put it this way, I don't think there's any reality where I could win a Republican election, nor could I win a Democrat election. | ||
| And that's kind of the point. | ||
| That's why I'm like, I don't see a path out. | ||
| I will vote for a Republican because they get me close enough. | ||
| But if I ran as a Republican, I would never win. | ||
| But to your point, you said like Fetterman still votes on all the stupid stuff. | ||
| Most people aren't looking at how they vote. | ||
| They're not looking at what their prior voting record. | ||
| That's why Fetterman is trying to act like a moderate. | ||
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| Because he knows that he can vote with the far left. | ||
| But as long as his perception is moderate, he'll get elections. | ||
| He's pro-Israel, though, right? | ||
| So he's got a problem. | ||
| Very pro-Israel. | ||
| Well, I do think that a lot of the anti-Israel stuff, well, certainly there's a lot of legitimate U.S. anti-Israel stuff, I think a lot of it's third world. | ||
| Well, I shouldn't say third world, but foreign countries. | ||
| You've got, what, 1.6 billion Muslims? | ||
| Yeah, I think you've got a lot of viewers. | ||
| You could classify it as third world because a lot of it is they just view the Jews in Israel as like a European colonial experiment. | ||
| It's super white people. | ||
| Right. | ||
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| Yeah. | ||
| So yeah, it's like a lot of it is third world. | ||
| I mean, again, there's like plenty of meat on the bone there with Israel, but I'm just saying when someone named you can look at these people and people's engagement that are like tapping in and getting like thousands and thousands of reach. | ||
| When you go, that's like all Pakistani flags. | ||
| We all know what's going on. | ||
| You know what's interesting is that the people I've encountered who are big fans of Candace, they act, they're actually liberals. | ||
| Like Anna Kasparian talking about how she's watching Candace more now. | ||
| It's like, is she just going the liberal route? | ||
| Is that like the game? | ||
| I think that there's a large crossover of anti-Israel people that when was the last time she actually talked about conservative political values? | ||
| Bridget McCrone being a man isn't conservative. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Blake Lively is not a conservative thing. | ||
| Turning point conspiracies is not a conservative thing. | ||
| I mean, Blake Lively's stuff kind of got drawn into like Me Too type stuff at work, which has a political bend to it, though it's not politics. | ||
| Man, lowest common denominator, baby. | ||
| That's how you get it. | ||
| That's why you should watch PCC instead. | ||
| Xantho says Candace is and always has been a grifter. | ||
| Anyone who has paid any real attention to her knows this. | ||
| It was especially apparent when she went on Dave Rubin's show with Blair White to be a C word. | ||
| I actually say this I don't know what the word is because it says C star star star. | ||
| Because we use, we have an extension because when we pull up articles, it blurs out those words. | ||
| I'm assuming there's a naughty word under there. | ||
| Not here. | ||
| Lansen says what Candace is doing is like the national inquirer for the independent media space. | ||
| There will always be low IQ people that eat that stuff up. | ||
| Indeed. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| It is what it is, man. | ||
| It exists. | ||
| So be it. | ||
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All right. | |
| Let's see. | ||
| We got some more for all of you guys. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Leo says that raccoon is my spirit animal. | ||
| Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says Candace still hasn't brought Dem receipts yet. | ||
| And I looked. | ||
| I'm only finding parking lots of shopping plaza. | ||
| Something fishy is going on here. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, there's been no substance. | ||
| It's all just innuendo and accusations that are plausibly deniable. | ||
| Techno Moxington says, hey, Tim, big fan, been watching since the Rittenhouse trials. | ||
| Going to my first furry convention this weekend in Chicago, I definitely see you as a otter. | ||
| Cheers me. | ||
| Does he give an explanation as to why he sees you as an otter? | ||
| It could be because I carry the small rock in my pocket everywhere I go. | ||
| Probably what it is. | ||
| I don't know if that's something that you should be proud of. | ||
| Jennifer says, Hey, Tim, here's five bucks to help you start treatment for your Candace derangement syndrome. | ||
| Get well soon. | ||
| I appreciate the $5, but I have to apply it to my AOC derangement syndrome, my Adam Schiff derangement syndrome, my Eric Swalwell derangement syndrome, my Chuck Schumer derangement syndrome. | ||
| The list goes on. | ||
| Infinitely more people that I've criticized than just her before I even get to the therapy sessions over Candace, I got to go through every single Democrat scumbag, not to mention the Krasensteins, Hassan Piker. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Can you believe all of those people that have derangement syndrome over? | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| SA Federale says, honestly, how do y'all avoid blackpilling? | ||
| And do you have a bat signal for Luke as Secretary of War and Candace crush every seed of hope and truth? | ||
| I'm searching for more than alcoholic trash panda coming up short. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| I've been, I've been, I play poker. | ||
| It's fun. | ||
| I look, spend time with your family and your loved ones. | ||
| I spend as much time with my wife when I'm not at work as I can. | ||
| I skate a lot, and that is a huge way to help with that. | ||
| I watch movies and television shows from prior to 2016. | ||
| Like just going outside and getting out there in the physical space and feeling the sun on your face goes a long way in keeping you. | ||
| Again, I know that Twitter, the idea that Twitter is not real life isn't necessarily true anymore, but it is true that when you go out into the real world and you spend time there, this stuff, while it is important, will shrink in its significance in your brain. | ||
| You just have to go out and do stuff. | ||
| I want to point something out. | ||
| The inactivity of the boomers and Gen Xers in the 80s to the 2000s, their general disinterest with politics resulted in the 2008 financial crash. | ||
| As people began to stop paying attention to what was going on, and I know people largely did, but most people did not. | ||
| Politics was an afterthought. | ||
| Voter turnout wasn't that high. | ||
| And even when it was, people didn't really know what they were voting for. | ||
| It was just team, you know, team politics, right? | ||
| Team USA. | ||
| You ended up getting, well, it was team, Democrat, team, Republican. | ||
| You ended up getting the financial crisis, which caused a fertility crisis, which is causing all of these crises we're seeing now. | ||
| If we all revert back to, you know what, I'm not going to pay attention anymore, the end result is going to be it all just blows up one day because it's already sinking. | ||
| The only reason it's not completely sunk is because there is a faction of populists on the right, largely, that are like, this has to stop. | ||
| But as the ship is sinking, you have people who are basically saying, let's just extract everything we can as it all goes down. | ||
| And that's going to be interesting. | ||
| I'm just thinking about the stuff that I watch on YouTube. | ||
| And, you know, I'm watching videos about space weather. | ||
| I'm fascinated by that stuff. | ||
| There's social experiments. | ||
| It's like social philosophies are interesting. | ||
| General news stuff is largely boring. | ||
| People are kind of detaching from the political space now. | ||
| And it almost feels like people have given up. | ||
| You know? | ||
| I mean, I do think that there's a level of despondency because particularly on the right, because people have had high hopes with Donald Trump being elected again, they're like, oh, Donald Trump's going to come in and do all these things. | ||
| And you see it all across the political spectrum of people, or not political spectrum, but all across the right of people saying, well, Donald Trump hasn't done this and Donald Trump hasn't done that. | ||
| He hasn't accomplished whatever particular pet project that they believed that he was going to do right away. | ||
| And I think that that tends to turn people off. | ||
| And people are like, well, if he's not going to do it, then screw him, screw the Republicans, et cetera. | ||
| And you see it a lot on social media with people talking about politics. | ||
| They're like, oh, the Republicans aren't going to do anything. | ||
| And I think that that does create a level of despondency. | ||
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| Raymond J. Stanley Jr. says the raccoon hasn't recovered from the COVID lockdowns. | ||
| Or he finally snapped. | ||
| It's possible. | ||
| This is a moment. | ||
| I think, I mean, not to harp back on it, but I think the despondency is, yeah, directly related to the blackpilling. | ||
| Like, people have gotten so hopeless about the political situation. | ||
| Part of the problem is the way that the media environment on the right developed is it developed during Bush to Obama. | ||
| The Biden winner is really when things kind of crystallize. | ||
| And so a lot of people on the right are just natural contrarians. | ||
| And so they don't actually realize, like, hey, Trump is in power. | ||
| You can just do things. | ||
| They're instantly skeptical of everything. | ||
| And that just causes further blackpilling. | ||
| Well, you're right. | ||
| Trump is in power. | ||
| You can just do things. | ||
| And then when Trump doesn't do the thing that they want him to do, whether he has the authority to do it or not, they're just like, ah, well, screw it then. | ||
| He's not going to. | ||
| And I understand the frustration because, you know, you want to see the policies that you voted for implemented. | ||
| You want to see more people, like deportations is a big deal to a lot of people. | ||
| And I think that the administration is saying that there's been 2 million people deported, which is, you know, that's a considerable amount of people. | ||
| But the amount of people that actually came in during the Biden administration, it's not even close to enough. | ||
| So there are people that are just like, oh, you know, nothing ever happens. | ||
| We're not getting what we wanted. | ||
| Yeah, it was never nothing. | ||
| It was nothing ever happens. | ||
| It was nothing ever changes. | ||
| Nothing, it seems like no matter what happens, everything just seems to stay the same in a lot of ways. | ||
| Yeah, Trump is the thing that changes everything. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's just that it happens so slow, no one notices. | ||
| Well, and so much stuff happens in a row now, like where, you know, a couple of big things used to happen and it felt like all of it. | ||
| Now, so many things happen right in a row. | ||
| You're like, all of this, all of these things are happening and nothing is changing. | ||
| But Trump himself is the rebuke of like Fukuyama's, like, we're at the end of the end of the rope here. | ||
| I mean, like, he is that, we're discussing it in the green room. | ||
| Like, he is that Napoleonic figure that's reemerged in the 21st century that I don't think people anticipated would happen. | ||
| And he came, he came out of reality TV. | ||
| So it's like, I mean, things can change quite rapidly. | ||
| It's just, I don't know. | ||
| I think to Tim's point, like, the world actually is so wild. | ||
| The stories are so wild that people are, the level of like wildness keeps raising and people keep getting numb to that level as it continues to tick upwards. | ||
| It's a drug. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's an addiction. | ||
| As I explained this with the emergence of Donald Trump and how he came to be, you know, a Nazi, right? | ||
| So a blog writes, Donald Trump makes a racist statement, million views. | ||
| Then they're like, wow, we got a million views on that. | ||
| Let's, what else do we have? | ||
| Well, he's just a racist. | ||
| Let's write up how he's a racist. | ||
| So then they went up it. | ||
| Trump is a racist. | ||
| What do they do next? | ||
| Trump is the most racist. | ||
| Trump is almost as bad as Hitler. | ||
| Trump is as bad as Hitler. | ||
| Trump is worse than Hitler. | ||
| They just keep having to do more because people get, it's like, I've heard this already. | ||
| And they're still doing it too. | ||
| Well, see, the people talking about, oh, Donald Trump is Hitler. | ||
| Donald Trump is racist. | ||
| Right, but the point is, we've reached apex. | ||
| So I was talking to this guy over the weekend. | ||
| I was just hanging out here for Thanksgiving. | ||
| And this dude told me a couple of things. | ||
| He said that he unsubscribed from Charlie Kirk because he said it's just, it's not him. | ||
| And he knows nothing else is coming. | ||
| So he decided just to close that chapter. | ||
| But he's like, honestly, it's like I watch your show too, but I'm just sick and tired of hearing the exact same thing over and over again. | ||
| Like every day, it's everybody putting up videos that say the exact same thing. | ||
| And so at a certain point, it's just, I'm done. | ||
| I'm not going to watch this. | ||
| I think we have reached the apex of dopamine trigger in news and politics. | ||
| There's nothing more to be said. | ||
| Like Charlie Kirk's assassination, I think, shattered the veil of whatever this political circumstance was. | ||
| Now, I'm not saying it's not going to get worse or who knows, but that was a moment where people kind of were just like, I think a lot of people are like, I'm done. | ||
| You've told me about tariffs 800 times already. | ||
| You've told me about immigration 800 times already. | ||
| Democrats obstruct. | ||
| Trump does a thing every day. | ||
| It's the exact same thing. | ||
| Nothing ever changes. | ||
| And then you see Charlie get murdered. | ||
| The coalition is breaking. | ||
| And I think, you know, why do people, why do people watch Catus watch Candace? | ||
| Because she's found a way to continually one-up it. | ||
| Bridget McCrone's a man. | ||
| They're trying to kill me. | ||
| The French Foreign Legion is after me. | ||
| I mean, she's gone to another dimension. | ||
| It's one thing to be in the news space and say something like, Democrats are now trying to do this crazy thing, but it's based in reality. | ||
| At a certain point, people are like, We get it. | ||
| Democrats want to put you in prison. | ||
| They want to put Trump in prison. | ||
| Okay, like, what's going to happen? | ||
| So, Candace is like, they have a penis. | ||
| And it's like, okay, she's found a way to one-up the dopamine trigger beyond the news cycle by being crazy, by saying things that are just outlandish, or it's innuendo and vague. | ||
| And that can only go so far as well. | ||
| But it works for now. | ||
| That to me is like a tailspin about to crash into an island. | ||
| Because sooner or later, the bill comes due, and she has no receipts for anything. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| So if she keeps trying to chase this, you'd think at a certain point, she'd go a different direction. | ||
| Three months, she's just talking about Charlie nonstop all day, every day. | ||
| Nothing else. | ||
| Silly, but it's what gets clicks, apparently. | ||
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You know, indeed. | |
| You got to find a way to what up it. | ||
| And right now, everyone in the political space is basically at a point where it's like, been there, done that. | ||
| Trump's president. | ||
| Democrats aren't doing anything. | ||
| They don't stand for anything. | ||
| And they're not fighting for much right now. | ||
| The woke battle is largely over. | ||
| Bud Light Target, all these things have lost. | ||
| So there's no rallying cry anymore. | ||
| I guess if you found a new villain, Israel, you've got something. | ||
| They're the universal villain, you know. | ||
| And now the war in Gaza is basically over, but it's still, you know, the topic that gets a ton of people fired up because there are people that believe they have too much influence in the United States policy. | ||
| And, you know, that's arguable. | ||
| They do have outsized influence considering the actual impact the country has on the average American. | ||
| But I don't think that that's something that the average American really cares about. | ||
| It's just a small group of people that'll click on anything that was critical of Israel. | ||
| Nate Wessels says, Tim, are you able to address what happened with Charlie Kirk's show episodes on Apple and Spotify? | ||
| It seems all episodes of 4 October 8th are gone. | ||
| They removed them because Charlie's dead, perhaps? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I can give you internal marketing reasons. | ||
| You can come up with every reason you want. | ||
| If I say something creepy and fantastical, will more people want to watch the show? | ||
| Maybe do that. | ||
| But I can tell you this: when you change distributors, there's like podcasts aren't like YouTube where you can upload a video and it's just there on YouTube. | ||
| For podcasting, it's typically they will be good service and you upload it to your service and then provide the RSS to a bunch of other platforms so it appears. | ||
| So if it's not an Apple and Spotify, it could be that the RSS broke, something as simple as that. | ||
| It could be that they moved to a new provider. | ||
| So now Apple and Spotify are calling to dead links so it doesn't pull up anymore. | ||
| Or it could be that they removed him because Charlie died. | ||
| That's literally like my, there was my favorite podcast of all time was this guy who did a podcast about the show person of interest. | ||
| His name's David Vox Mullen. | ||
| And apparently like the links got taken down years ago and I bug him on X to like, I'm like, can you like, I know it would be like an insane amount of your time, but could you re-upload these somewhere because I want them? | ||
| I don't think anybody else does. | ||
| Sadly, he's too busy for it. | ||
| Maybe you can just burn it on a CD and send it over to you. | ||
| Such a good idea. | ||
| Send a thumb drive. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Catald Swiss says, isn't Candace a known doxer? | ||
| Well, I mean, she did that in the past. | ||
| I don't lord that or hold that over people for what they do today. | ||
| What they do today is what you criticize them for. | ||
| You know, if somebody wants, if somebody does something bad and then later on, they're like, I shouldn't have done that. | ||
| It's whatever. | ||
| Petty Eddie says, Cam Higby just posted a YouTube video concerning Candace and her attacks on people, including him. | ||
| Well, she's really burning every bridge she has. | ||
| That's the thing. | ||
| Like, I think Megan Kelly was scared to criticize Candace because she's scared that Candace Owens' audience would attack her or come after her and she'd lose subscribers or whatever. | ||
| You know, everyone's got audience overlap. | ||
| And if you go to war and you're the aggressor, someone's going to choose and then you're going to lose money or whatever. | ||
| That's why when Ben Shapiro said to Megan Kelly that Candace insinuating Erica Kirk killed Charlie is evil, Megan was just like very standoffish and then later came out and said she never said that when it's like, she said literally everything around that. | ||
| So any like when, so let me just put it this way. | ||
| You know what really pushes me to the limit? | ||
| When there are three young guys that I meet and they're like, do you really think Erica killed Charlie? | ||
| And I was like, do you watch Candace's show? | ||
| And I'm like, did Candace say that? | ||
| We're like, come on, dude. | ||
| When regular people on the street come to me and they're like, that's what I believe because of Candace? | ||
| And then Candace's like, but I never said that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But you implied that either she's working alongside the people who killed Charlie and she's not smart enough to realize what's happening. | ||
| She's ignorant of what's going on or she was involved. | ||
| So when I meet people on the street and they're asking me about it and they think Erica killed Charlie, I'm like, wow, Candace is really going off the rails and causing problems and hurting people. | ||
| That's so messed up, man. | ||
| It sucks. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
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You know, this is what happens. | |
| Wyatt Kaldenberg says, Google 105 is a UPS store. | ||
| 105 to 503 are mailboxes at the address, UPS store. | ||
| UPS store rents mailboxes. | ||
| The businesses use a private mailbox. | ||
| And that guy has 200,000 views. | ||
| If he's getting a, let's say he's getting a $5 CPM, he's going to have $10,000 off that video just from YouTube spots alone. | ||
| But maybe, well, no, no, no. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| That was way off. | ||
| $1,000. | ||
| I was way off on that one. | ||
| He'll make about $1,000 from that video. | ||
| And then if he sells any sponsorship reads or anything like that after the fact, he'll make money. | ||
| But he also builds subscribers. | ||
| There's money to be made. | ||
| You can choose to be honest. | ||
| Here's what I'll say. | ||
| Here's the direction we went before we go to the uncensored portion of the show. | ||
| When I first started doing all of this stuff, I came from working at ABC News, the joint venture Fusion, but I had an ABC News badge. | ||
| I worked at the ABC office in New York. | ||
| And people were desperate for honesty, authenticity. | ||
| So on social media, you've always had weird grifters and fake news for sure. | ||
| But people went to social media to try and find someone being honest about what was going on. | ||
| And then my channel started to grow. | ||
| Today, the corporate press is largely dead. | ||
| Nobody watches cable TV news. | ||
| Now, those same grifter-type people who make fake content are just now working on social media. | ||
| And you have one example we've brought up is there are people who will take a video of me from Timcast IRL, make it appear like a debate. | ||
| They'll take me saying various sentences. | ||
| They'll take Jenk Uger. | ||
| Then they'll put a graphic over both of us so it looks like we're doing a Zoom debate. | ||
| And then they'll make a fake headline and they'll get 50,000 views. | ||
| And YouTube allows it. | ||
| And people in the comments are saying, wait a minute, this is fake. | ||
| Doesn't matter. | ||
| He already got the views. | ||
| He already made the money. | ||
| He already got the subscribers. | ||
| And some people just don't realize it's fake. | ||
| Then you got people like Sam Cedar, who just literally makes a living taking clips of me out of context to trick people because he is evil. | ||
| He is a scumbag. | ||
| And this is the world that we have right now. | ||
| Everyone's going to go collectively insane. | ||
| And Candace is just the king of it. | ||
| So smash the like button. | ||
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| So this is the big debate. | ||
| The Stranger Things intro. | ||
| He absolutely orally rapes a little boy. | ||
| It's one thing if Vecna grabbed the kid and then jammed something in his throat and dumped fluid in his stomach. | ||
| That's still kind of weird, but horror-esque and not that big a deal. | ||
| You know, putting worms or someone in some of his body is fine. | ||
| The issue is he pins him against the wall, the tentacle goes up to his mouth and goes over his mouth and then starts pumping his mouth full of fluid. | ||
| And then Vecna leans back and goes, oh, and I'm like, Yeah, okay. | ||
| Like, come on. | ||
| Well, there was that's the line. | ||
| There was the scene in the previous season where the kid puked up what became one of the monsters. | ||
| I think it was the dog Gorgon thing. | ||
| So I watched it, and that wasn't what came to mind for me personally. | ||
| When Vecna leans back, rolls his eyes back while his tube is in a child's mouth, and it's squirting, and he's going, oh, I'm like, what the fuck are they doing? | ||
| You know, like I said, that's not what came to mind for me when I saw it. | ||
| You watched that scene? | ||
| Yeah, I watched it. | ||
| You saw him lean his head back like he was busting a load? | ||
| I don't recall that, but uh, that was it for me. | ||
| If he didn't lean back like it was a shot in a porno, I would have been like, Well, you know, it's kind of weird. | ||
| I can understand what Jack is saying, but that I went like, oh my God, yeah, the discussion. | ||
| The discussion that I had with people about that scene is like, depending on whether you watched it in the show or whether you watch it after Jack made his post about it, where he turns it into the issue of the discussion about what happens, it might predispose you to what you're saying, like saying Phil saw it and he's like, he doesn't even remember the part you're talking about. | ||
| But when I saw the reaction from Vecna, I was like, oh, you saw it? | ||
| I saw the clip of the IB show. | ||
| He throws his head back and he goes, oh, I'm like, whoa, what? | ||
| Can we pull it up? | ||
| Other than that, that's like the trope of like face huggers and thing that's been around. | ||
| That's the thing that kind of like remind me of is like, oh, it's a call. | ||
| It's an alien. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Or aliens or what have you. | ||
| Yeah, no, you can. | ||
| The clip. | ||
| I don't. | ||
| We'll just jump to the part where he orally rapes the little boy. | ||
| Just look for Pesobic's clip. | ||
| Oh, he posted it? | ||
| Wasn't it Pesobic who posted it? | ||
| He talked about it. | ||
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He's caressing | |
| his forehead while he's doing it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Such beautiful things. | |
| Jack pointed out that an alien, the facehuggers were literally meant to be an analogy of rape or to symbolize rape. | ||
| He's stroking his head saying we're doing beautiful things while he's got a tube in his mouth. | ||
| And he went, oh, Adam. | ||
| Look, I get it's not literally a one-for-one porn scene. | ||
| It is a weird horror movie, but I get what Jack is saying. | ||
| That's not something you want your kids to see. | ||
| Well, I mean, that's fair. | ||
| I imagine there would be parents that would have an issue with their kids seeing this. | ||
| But like I said, I didn't get the sexual connotations from it. | ||
| I thought that it was very boilerplate horror stuff. | ||
| Him caressing his forehead with his hand very slowly is not. | ||
| Like I said, I didn't pick up the sexual. | ||
| I want to break this down. | ||
| You don't. | ||
| Are you saying there's no sexual connotation with a man stroking a little boy's head that way? | ||
| I'm saying that my impression when I watched it. | ||
| Right now, I'm not asking about when you didn't see it and you weren't willing to pay it. | ||
| You're sitting there and you're and Netflix knows people are not really hyper-focused on all the details. | ||
| I'm saying when Jack analyzes this, would you currently now disagree with what he's saying based on what we are saying? | ||
| When you see him throw his head back and groan and then start caressing the little boy's head, you would say that's not sexual? | ||
| I don't feel like it was intended to be sexual. | ||
| But I mean, like, I get what you're saying. | ||
| If you're, if you're looking for a moment, I'm just not asking that. | ||
| What do you, what are you asking me? | ||
| I can see why someone would say that. | ||
| Do you think there is sexual innuendo analogy with a male adult creature putting a tentacle into a boy's mouth and pumping him full of fluid while he throws his head back and then strokes his head that that goes in? | ||
| I don't think that that was the intent. | ||
| I don't ask you about intention. | ||
| So, okay, so I don't see that as sexual. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So that's what I'm saying. | ||
| This is what I find weird because every time I would ask you, is that sexual? | ||
| You'd say, I don't think intention. | ||
| Well, no, I didn't say intentional. | ||
| I don't see that, is what I said before. | ||
| I think it is. | ||
| What do you think? | ||
| I mean, he's stroking the little boy's head saying we're going to do beautiful things together while the kid's gagging on his tentacle. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, there's a subtext. | ||
| Yeah, there's a subtext. | ||
| And like you said, about the alien and the H.R. Giga stuff, I mean, it was obviously intended. | ||
| It was intended to be. | ||
| And then with Prometheus, they actually impregnate her, and she has to have a C-section. | ||
| So not that there's a relation, but what Jack was pointing out is that movies have done this. | ||
| I think he was mentioning the relation between the producers or something, that they have intentionally done this. | ||
| And I turned this on and I was like, first of all, what's the fucking point of this scene? | ||
| Why do it this way? | ||
| What's interesting as well, actually, about Alien, about H.R. Giga, is that, you know, like at the time, male rape was a big taboo. | ||
| I mean, it still is a big taboo. | ||
| But you know what I mean? | ||
| Like, to depict that in a movie, male rape. | ||
| I mean, you know, and the facehugger is kind of like a mixture of a vagina and I mean, there's something kind of feminine about the facehugger, but also masculine, the kind of penis. | ||
| It's androgynous. | ||
| So, I mean, what's the current taboo? | ||
| The kind of last remaining taboo is raping kids, right? | ||
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No. | |
| I mean, I don't know. | ||
| But the other thing that's wrong with the show is there's going to be a bunch of different endings. | ||
| And it's just. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| What? | ||
| Choose your own ending. | ||
| And I guess one of the endings is that it turns out they're all just playing a game in the basement. | ||
| Do you have to watch a VPN to, or do you have to get a VPN to check the different endings and stuff? | ||
| Yeah, probably. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| Apparently, they've already revealed one of the endings, not directly, but they said it's a fan favorite. | ||
| And the response from the fans was, the ending they're talking about is after the battle is over, the camera is going to show them in the basement playing DD. | ||
| And they're going to be like, wow, that was fun. | ||
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And that's it. | |
| And the whole show was, the reason why it's nonsensical and Russia was involved was because it was just kids playing a game. | ||
| It was all a dream. | ||
| Did you watch Legend of Vox Machina based on Critical Role? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Have you watched the new one, 99? | ||
| I tried one episode and I'm like, I can't take this. | ||
| Everything's done. | ||
| Culture is over. | ||
| That's just it. | ||
| Right now, I'm just looking at the YouTube player and I'm like, I'm looking at Triton Poker Cash Game has only 763 people watching and I'm just like. | ||
| What was the last, like for everyone around the table, what was the last piece of entertainment that you saw that you actually thought was original? | ||
| It was original? | ||
| It was that yesterday movie, the Beatles movie that came out a few years ago. | ||
| That was about the Beatles. | ||
| I enjoyed that. | ||
| That was a good one. | ||
| But it's original. | ||
| The Beatles are an institution, so they're playing off. | ||
| But you saw that movie, right? | ||
| No. | ||
| One day, like, he wakes up and no one can remember any Beatles song. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| He generally knows most of them. | ||
| So he starts writing songs and they're all big hits. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| I really liked it. | ||
| And it was like, no one done that before. | ||
| I was like, oh, yeah. | ||
| And you walk out thinking, could I remember all of the hits of, you know, if I had to remember all the All That Remains songs overnight, would I be able to do it? | ||
| I could do that. | ||
| Actually, no, I couldn't. | ||
| We're at 10 records now. | ||
| I'm sure I'd forget a lot of them. | ||
| What should I make an image of? | ||
| Have you guys seen Begonia? | ||
| I got it. | ||
| Elon Musk at a conference. | ||
| I'm going to show you how stupid this is. | ||
| Oh, is this it? | ||
| You like the movie? | ||
| It's only making one video. | ||
| Wait, is it making a video? | ||
| No, it's making a photo, right? | ||
| I don't know, whatever. | ||
| It's making something. | ||
| It's just Grolk. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Grok's incredible. | ||
| They're all good and bad at different things. | ||
| Grok makes too much shit up. | ||
| It annoys me. | ||
| Fact it's this. | ||
| And he's Asian. | ||
| Why is he Asian? | ||
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Fact it's this. | |
| Why is he Asian? | ||
| He's Asian and nervous. | ||
| You want to do image first. | ||
| What should we make an image of? | ||
| Eron. | ||
| That's that. | ||
| That's Elon Musk. | ||
| Cyberpunk Elon Musk. | ||
| It's fast, too. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Now you click this. | ||
| We then go to video options. | ||
| We want spicy. | ||
| I am 18 or older. | ||
| And then we have it generate a spicy video of Elon Musk, which you will all regret seeing in about one minute. | ||
| This picture is like every Indian's profile picture. | ||
| It's always like a variation. | ||
| Yeah, they're calling this the most Indian picture. | ||
| We're reaching levels of Indian 59%. | ||
| Is it going to go? | ||
| Because this is going to scar you for life. | ||
| You've been warned. | ||
| This is the uncensored portion of the show. | ||
| Face hugger too. | ||
| Elon Yang, someone said, Elon Yang. | ||
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Oh, my God. | |
| Oh, he personally intervened. | ||
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He's watching. | |
| We're trying again. | ||
| Like, shut it down. | ||
| What was it going to show? | ||
| What was it? | ||
| So I just clicked their video option for spicy. | ||
| It was like him and Ashley Sinclair. | ||
| Spicy means soft core corner. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Yeah, it's going to be like, no, we can't do that. | ||
| Don't make soft cool porn. | ||
| No, but it's a preset. | ||
| You need to do it. | ||
| I didn't. | ||
| I didn't know what it meant. | ||
| And so when I was making a Grok. | ||
| Oh, look at that. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Yo, I didn't. | ||
| No, I didn't tell it to do it. | ||
| There's got to be a way around it. | ||
| Maybe you have to paraphrase. | ||
| Well, I'm not telling it to do anything. | ||
| It's just cyberpunk Elon Musk. | ||
| And then I say, make a video. | ||
| Option is spicy. | ||
| And it keeps when it's moderating it. | ||
| Usually that means my understanding is that it was going to show his junk. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| No, Elon Wang. | ||
| It's soft core. | ||
| We don't need the facehugger. | ||
| Okay, we made it 70%. | ||
| 72, 73. | ||
| I think we might make it, boys. | ||
| Come on, please. | ||
| I want to see this so bad. | ||
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Nope. | |
| Elon is all like the birth rates, the birth rates. | ||
| Here's some soft core. | ||
| Yeah, literally. | ||
| Here's my junk. | ||
| Here's the black pill machine. | ||
| I'll nuke everything you try to do. | ||
| This is interesting. | ||
| So I've made a bunch of images, and I didn't know what the video options were. | ||
| And so I saw spicy, fun, and oh, 85, 86, 90. | ||
| Oh, no, no, no, no. | ||
| We got it, boys. | ||
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Feel the neon heat with me. | |
| Feel the neon heat with me. | ||
| I'm glad that we. | ||
| Everyone's seen that picture of him on the yacht. | ||
| He does not look like that. | ||
| No, he doesn't. | ||
| What if we do fun? | ||
| Fun shouldn't get moderated. | ||
| So I didn't know what spicy was at first. | ||
| And I was trying Grok for the first time. | ||
| And I said, make I was like Elon Musk riding a motorcycle or something. | ||
| And it showed him with like a leather jacket and sunglasses. | ||
| And then I was like, oh, we'll do a video. | ||
| What's spicy? | ||
| And I clicked it, and it was him going like, hello there. | ||
| And he ripped his shirt off. | ||
| And I was like, what the fuck? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Behold, the future of nutrition. | ||
| Invisible snacks. | ||
| Watch this. | ||
| That was terrible. | ||
| Behold, the future of nutrition. | ||
| Visible snacks. | ||
| Are not all snacks visible? | ||
| I guess the Eucharist is the invisible. | ||
| Yeah, there's some invisible snacks. | ||
| Invisible snacks. | ||
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Besides that, it's all visible. | |
| All right. | ||
| It's getting very Indian. | ||
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No, don't worry. | |
| I got one. | ||
| I got one. | ||
| And then we'll go to callers. | ||
| It's getting very subcontinental. | ||
| I had Grok make an invoice for $7,000 to Zijus. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Can we animate the video of the raccoon? | ||
| See, like maybe how it played out in the bathroom. | ||
| The spicy version of that raccoon? | ||
| No. | ||
| That could be interesting. | ||
| That could be interesting. | ||
| The peanut butter whiskey sounded. | ||
| Hear me out. | ||
| You know, Zootopia was good. | ||
| It might fail. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Walk with me, Phil. | ||
| Walk with me down this hole. | ||
| Pause. | ||
| All right, boys. | ||
| Raccoon. | ||
| Drunk raccoon facehuggers, Zootopia, spicy. | ||
| Now I want it. | ||
| What do you say? | ||
| Drunk raccoon. | ||
| Drunk raccoon. | ||
| Facehugger. | ||
| Facehugger. | ||
| Utopia. | ||
| Can you squeeze Sidney Sweeney here somehow? | ||
| Just somewhere in between the lines. | ||
| Yep, that's good. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Drunk raccoon face hugger utopia with Sidney Sweeney. | ||
| That's my politics. | ||
| What the hell? | ||
| What is going on? | ||
| Okay, you know, I regret this. | ||
| Bottom right, animated. | ||
| Yeah, make it a spicy video. | ||
| I did normal first. | ||
| What? | ||
| Oh, wait, I want normal. | ||
| There's nothing normal about this. | ||
| There is nothing normal about this. | ||
| That's accurate. | ||
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Is it going to be her? | |
| Is she the owner? | ||
| Let's get started with today's session. | ||
| I've got a few things to. | ||
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What? | |
| You'll see. | ||
| You'll see. | ||
| After this, though. | ||
| Is he drunk? | ||
| Is he intoxicating? | ||
| That was not the raccoon. | ||
| Saying the alphabet backwards, possibly. | ||
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Saying the alphabet backwards. That's powerful. | |
| That's kind of powerful. | ||
| What do you think about it? | ||
| All right, boys. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| So let's get started with today's session. | ||
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I've got a few things to cover, and I think you'll find this interesting. | |
| So let's get. | ||
| Do we want spicy? | ||
| Or do we want? | ||
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Yes. | |
| Can we get the demographics of the channel? | ||
| Oh, you're killing me? | ||
| This is going to be HR violation. | ||
| This has to be HR violation. | ||
| Unfortunate. | ||
| Unfortunate. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Just get killed. | ||
| Have you seen the videos of society totally breaking down and collapsing? | ||
| Where the guy will go to a Walmart and he'll take pictures of people and then make them doing things and then show them. | ||
| That's so fucked up, dude. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't want that. | ||
| There's. | ||
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Pink water. | |
| It's dead. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Well, it happens. | ||
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All right. | |
| More like you than the last one. | ||
| How about the room is actually a speeding city bus, and he is driving. | ||
| The floor is locked. | ||
| Can we get when I get attacked by that drunken raccoon? | ||
| I'm just still caught up on the drunk. | ||
| It's got my mind racing. | ||
| Specifically with regards to the facehugger. | ||
| We haven't explored that enough, I don't think, as a team, as a unit. | ||
| Surge. | ||
| Say puisen, thank you, extra spicy. | ||
| Surge knows what I'm saying. | ||
| People say do spicy Ian. | ||
| Ian's not here, and I've got a picture of Ian. | ||
| Surge is aligned. | ||
| Didn't he upload himself? | ||
| Which one did he upload himself? | ||
| Here, look. | ||
| There's no sound. | ||
| That's literally me. | ||
| Dude, that's crazy. | ||
| They gave me like fetal alcohol syndrome. | ||
| It's not a bus. | ||
| Somebody out there who like live streams who's got like a sure SM7B in their bus as they're driving it. | ||
| I imagine there is. | ||
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