Sept. 26, 2025 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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| The Trump DOJ has indicted James Comey for obstruction and lying to Congress. | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| Now apparently there was some other attorney who wasn't going to do it for some reason said either the case wasn't strong enough, didn't want to, so Trump said, get him out of there, get somebody else, and now it is getting done. | ||
| They had only five days left until the statute of limitations was up. | ||
| So it looks like Trump is getting just what he wants. | ||
| And this, ladies and gentlemen, is a massive escalation at the political level. | ||
| Trump and his team, and for other reasons, all of you better beg, hope, and pray that the Republicans win the midterms, and that JD Vance wins in twenty twenty-eight. | ||
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| Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more. | ||
| We got Joseph Moulton. | ||
| Hi, yeah, I'm uh Joseph, founder of uh Flug Fools UK. | ||
| Um just joining Tim tonight. | ||
| Scopes going on and also mention a little bit what's going on in the UK as well. | ||
| Right on. | ||
| Well, thanks for hanging out. | ||
| We got Tate hanging out. | ||
| What's going on, guys? | ||
| Tate Brown here holding it down. | ||
| Before I start, uh Pastor Vody Bachum died about an hour ago. | ||
| I know a lot of people in the audience will know who that is. | ||
| Just want to say rest in peace. | ||
| He was very loved. | ||
| So yeah. | ||
| Sad to hear. | ||
| What's up, friends? | ||
| It's uh Raymond G your favorite uh blue collar um here at Timcast Media Group. | ||
| I look forward to talking to Joseph and everyone else, Mr. Phil. | ||
| Hello, everybody. | ||
| My name is Phil LeBonte. | ||
| I'm the lead set of the heavy metal and all that remains. | ||
| I'm an anti-communist and counter-revolutionary. | ||
| Let's get into it. | ||
| Here's ABC News, because you know we love them. | ||
| Former FBI director James Comey indicted days after Trump demanded his DOJ move now to prosecute enemies. | ||
| Prosecutors earlier said they couldn't establish probable cause to charge Comey, which is a lie. | ||
| Because we've got this post from Greg Price, which is uh hilarious. | ||
| On the left, James Comey telling Congress in September of 2020 that the steel dossier wasn't used in the 2016 intelligence committee assessment on the Russian oaks. | ||
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| Tulsi Gabbard's release from July showing the steel dossier was directly cited, and that Obama Intel officials overruled senior Intel officials, if officials who told them it was garbage. | ||
| Now, I believe he's being indicted on obstruction as well. | ||
| Former FBI director James Comey has been indicted on two of three counts sought by prosecutors. | ||
| One count of making false statements and one count of obstruction of justice just days after President Donald Trump issued a public demand for his DOJ to act now to bring prosecutions against Comey and other political foes. | ||
| The charges followed Trump's ousting of U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia, Eric Siebert, who, according to source that Expressed doubts internally about bringing cases against Comey as well as New York attorney General Letitia James after Trump appointed him to lead the office. | ||
| I would just like to point out where we are in this country. | ||
| They went after Donald Trump on fake charges. | ||
| Trump says, okay, if that's the standard, we go after them as well. | ||
| It's remarkable to me that under the Biden administration and in New York, they said, well, these are highly dubious, but let's bring them anyway. | ||
| And then under Trump, the attorneys are like, well, we can't really do it enough. | ||
| The standard was set by the Democrats. | ||
| Trump is saying, hey, look, you want to come after me citing mortgage fraud or civil fraud for loans because an officer made a mistake on some numbers. | ||
| He's gonna go after Letitia James when she claimed a property outside of New York was her primary residence, which gave her favorable loan terms. | ||
| I think the same thing is true for Adam Schiff, but we'll see what happens there. | ||
| And now you have James Comey. | ||
| James Comey said they didn't use the steel dossier. | ||
| Tulsi Gabbard says we went through that. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| Here's an IC report showing they did. | ||
| What's the problem? | ||
| What's the problem? | ||
| Let me say this though. | ||
| I will say this of myself and uh pretty much anybody who's prominent in this space. | ||
| Y'all better pray Trump doesn't lose this fight. | ||
| Because we've already seen what they're willing to do to their media adversaries. | ||
| We've seen what the left and the Democrats have been willing to do to run of the mill Trump supporters who bounced around on January 6th. | ||
| I ain't talking about the writers. | ||
| I'm talking of the people who are milling about after the riot was over, who also got a year plus in jail or solitary. | ||
| Going after James Comey, this is not a shot across the bow. | ||
| The Democrats already ignited the flames, and Trump is simply responding. | ||
| So it is now on. | ||
| At the highest level of politics, Trump has told the deep state, you are going down. | ||
| At the street level, we are dealing with three terror attacks in three weeks. | ||
| So you guys tell me what's happening in this country. | ||
| I mean, look, uh, as far as the situation with Comey, it's good that they're indicting him. | ||
| It's good that a grand jury decided that they had enough evidence to prosecute. | ||
| It's good that they are that they've actually moved on this, didn't let the statute of limitations run out. | ||
| Um but I I see this online like people tweeting at like Cash Patel and people tweeting at uh Republican lawmakers saying, hey, make the leftists stop killing us. | ||
| Like that's where we're at. | ||
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| So it's great that they put Comey in, or that they're gonna that they're gonna in or that Comey's indicted and they're gonna prosecute. | ||
| That's all well and good. | ||
| But we've actually gone past the need for that. | ||
| I I I I I I gotta I gotta I gotta interject. | ||
| If we do not see justice on the highest level of these people, the street level stuff is immaterial. | ||
| This is the this is the most important thing. | ||
| I look, obviously, street level law enforcement needs to stop needs to stop far-left hair and anti-fun, all that. | ||
| Because another thing, we got a lot of news. | ||
| Trump is has ordered his DOJ to go after all of these leftists and all the structures. | ||
| Ground level's important, but if Comey, Clinton, and their ilk are able to gain power again, I have zero concern whatsoever for anti-foot. | ||
| Phil, you'll be in a gulag. | ||
| Just make sure uh you share with me your sandwich at lunchtime. | ||
| It doesn't matter. | ||
| The thing is, it doesn't matter if they put Comey away, because this is it doesn't matter if it's Comey or who the individuals are, because there are other people that will be pursuing those those those places in the administration. | ||
| There's gonna be a Democrat that's gonna be running. | ||
| There's gonna be people in the bureaucracy that will want to, or there will be people in on the Democrat side that will will fill the roles. | ||
| And they're gonna act the same. | ||
| You don't need to wipe out the entire every single soldier on the enemy's battlefield if you if you've if you shatter their center and the rest of them flee. | ||
| If Trump can get these if if simply these indictments and these charges against Comey, Leticia James, potentially Schiff, anybody else, if that breaks their ranks, those people you're describing are going to run for the Hills. | ||
| They'll find them so oh well, what's that? | ||
| Uh they're they've are they're already getting citizenship in foreign countries. | ||
| Italy, I hear. | ||
| I mean, well, look, it it would be great if they if they fled the country, obviously. | ||
| Um, but I do think that that on the the I think the ground level is the thing that's that's more immediate. | ||
| Like the the idea. | ||
| Well, you be but you you you you can do both. | ||
| I don't know why not. | ||
| No, I'm not again, I'm not saying like I said, it's good that they got him. | ||
| It's good or that that they're that they've indicted him. | ||
| And I want to see more. | ||
| I'm not saying that it's not, you know, it shouldn't happen or whatever. | ||
| I'm saying it's a good thing. | ||
| You You arrest these people and the ground stuff disappears. | ||
| I don't know that I agree with that. | ||
| I think so. | ||
| They have the that they'll lose all their funding and all their legal support. | ||
| Right now, with the infrastructures of power in place, these people might actually get off on the charges. | ||
| Well, I mean, the dude that you know initially that just most recently shot up the ice facility, he took care of it himself. | ||
| And that's something that that actually happens fairly regularly. | ||
| Like they'll they'll go and it'll be suicide by cop or they'll they'll commit suicide themselves. | ||
| Um you look at all the trans shooters that have gone to schools and stuff, there's not all of them, obviously, but a lot of them get taken care of on you know when they're carrying out the attack. | ||
| I I think if again, this isn't Jimmy that it's if Jimmy Kimmel's off the air, if the Democrats that waged lawfare against Trump are in prison, and what remains are the squishy middle of middle of the road soft democrats who are like, I'm not gonna support any of that stuff. | ||
| You will stop this cultural movement on the ground level. | ||
| Their infrastructure that pays them to that gives them resources to be on the ground, that bails them out of jail, will evaporate overnight. | ||
| It's it's the the way I look at it is you've got an infestation, and all you're doing is chasing chasing the bugs that you can see instead of going into the walls and finding the hive. | ||
| So, of course, if we had a wasps nest in the building and they were flying around, we'd be we'd be swatting the wasps to get rid of them when we see them. | ||
| But we'd also call an exterminator to go in the walls, figure out the nest is and get the nest torn out. | ||
| This is this is substantially more important in my opinion. | ||
| Getting rid of the individual uh actors will stop the individual actor at the time, but how do you stop them from reproducing and it's moves like this? | ||
| I totally well, I mean, this is the probably the biggest test, one of the biggest tests of the DOJ so far, because I mean this was a buzzer beater, right? | ||
| Like the statute of limitations, September 30th, that's when Comey last testified, September 30th, 2020. | ||
| And it's like to prove that he didn't have any knowledge of the statements, approved like perjury in this case, it's a really high bar. | ||
| That's why uh that's why this is a buzzer beater in this case, is because they needed to build this case to the best of their abilities. | ||
| And so that's just like that because these things matter. | ||
| These things are like Tim is saying, you're you're cutting the head of the snake. | ||
| That's like I think the issue is that if Trump got in on day one and said, go arrest Comey, he'd be like, I ain't doing it. | ||
| And that's literally what we saw. | ||
| They're gonna be like, This is crazy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You're asking me to go to war with the deep state right now. | ||
| And, you know, I talked to Seb Gorka a couple months ago and I asked him, has the deep state lost? | ||
| Have we won? | ||
| He says, No. | ||
| The deep state is still very much there, and we are we are battling with them. | ||
| So right now, with this move against Comey, you know, powerful, prominent uniparty elite establishment international elements are saying Trump wants war, he'll get war. | ||
| And I mean I'm I'm talking about lawfare, legal actions. | ||
| If Trump can just go now, and and it's fascinating because what did we hear? | ||
| Was it gonna be end of summer we're gonna start seeing these arrests? | ||
| I think you can send them packing. | ||
| You know, now now there's rumors that he might he's he's looking into criminal activity of the Soros uh uh his foundations, uh open society and things like that, and they're gonna get it. | ||
| They're gonna get it. | ||
| Is that not really where they need to be targeting, though, these funding bases. | ||
| There's always gonna be another James Comey is gonna step into the role. | ||
| That that lobby and that media empire is so big, there's so much power that comes along into it. | ||
| I'm sure it's not gonna be super difficult to let someone also kind of they can cultivate another individual like that. | ||
| I would think though that I'd say no. | ||
| Those financial bases and that sort of media base is really what he probably needs to hit to kind of provide that sort of long-term longevity that's gonna allow them to win, you know, in the by-elections, but also uh it when it got to 2028 as well. | ||
| My my argument to your question, wouldn't that just be another comey? | ||
| The answer is no. | ||
| You think so? | ||
| Well, if Trump says, go to war with me and I'll destroy your life and you'll regret it, people are gonna say, I ain't going to war with Trump. | ||
| And that's what I'm talking about. | ||
| They tried to play that game. | ||
| But the problem is Democrats have always been fairly weak. | ||
| And let me clarify or qualify that statement. | ||
| They're willing to go insane. | ||
| They are willing to send people on the ground. | ||
| But as people, they're they're the only fear generated by the Democratic Party is the is the system itself, which they inherit, not which they've built. | ||
| Trump's a lunatic. | ||
| Trump is the guy that people actually think he might press the button. | ||
| You know, he had that famous phone call where he told Putin and she he told he told She, if you invade Taiwan and Putin, if you invade uh uh uh what did he say, Kiev or Ukraine, I'm gonna nuke you. | ||
| And he was like, I don't know if they believed me, maybe five percent. | ||
| And everyone's kind of like, you know, when Trump says it, you pause for a second. | ||
| Because when Obama says it, no one actually believes it. | ||
| It's not not just that sort of Nixonite mad dog sort of mentality that Nixon's crazy, he's unpredictable. | ||
| And like obviously that they went after Nixon again with with the lawfare type thing. | ||
| I don't think Nixon's got it. | ||
| I don't think Nin's got anything on Trump. | ||
| No. | ||
| Trump put out a public statement saying, Pam, go arrest my enemies now. | ||
| And so what I think he's hoping for, that was a shot across the bow. | ||
| I think he's hoping the next in line for a position like Comey, which wouldn't even come unless they win in 2028, is saying, like, dude, best be a fisherman than meddle in the politics of man. | ||
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Right. | |
| That's what Trump is hoping for right now. | ||
| There's no guarantees it happened. | ||
| That's why I'm saying if Trump loses, it's it's war. | ||
| Trump needs to make sure he puts the fear of God in these people. | ||
| Of I should say, of the federal law enforcement apparatus. | ||
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| And uh makes them regret it. | ||
| They did it to him. | ||
| And uh and they lost. | ||
| And now I I say lock him up. | ||
| Trump's getting old though. | ||
| I mean, like you're talking about going to warfare with Trump, he's gonna be no offense to Trump, but he's getting older in age. | ||
| So if they go after him, say he he does retaliation against Comey, good. | ||
| And and uh Miss La Tisha James, that's cool. | ||
| They can go they but when he gets out of office, who are they gonna fight against who's gonna get in Trump's place to fight against them? | ||
| You really think so? | ||
| Yeah, Vance is going on X calling people uh dip itched. | ||
| I don't I'm not gonna swear right. | ||
| You know, but I saw that and I said, that's what I voted for. | ||
| Is it your opinion that there is no one? | ||
| Uh no, I'd not well, Vance would be my only guess as of right now, but I don't think I don't think there's any Trump out there today. | ||
| The Trump side has an amazing bench and the Democrats have none. | ||
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| Well, also that's why this is important because you have to make an example out of Comey, like Tim was saying, for any future FBI director, make an example out of Letitia James. | ||
| Like this lawfare crap is not gonna slide. | ||
| So whoever that is, it doesn't really matter, whoever it is that replaces Trump, Trump's giving that person breathing room now. | ||
| They're not gonna have the boot on their neck of whatever, you know, God forbid a Democrat administration comes back in and they appoint all these chowder heads. | ||
| He can give us a little breathing room if he sets the example here and sets it down. | ||
| If if you know, I feel bad for you, Tate, because like if a if a new Democrat administration gets in, I'll be 42, 43. | ||
| I had a good life, went on adventures. | ||
| How old do you take? | ||
| Twenty four-four. | ||
| Twenty-four, man. | ||
| Being in a gulag at 20, 26, 27, all the best years taken away. | ||
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Oof. | |
| But you're right. | ||
| It gives other people room down the road if Trump gets you're gonna say about it. | ||
| Look at Phil, rocking out rock star stage, platinum records, and then he doesn't gotta work with the g worry about the gulag till these puts be rocking with the rocks. | ||
| AOC puts me in the quirked up white boy camp. | ||
| It's gonna be terrible. | ||
| Oh, I'm not looking forward to it. | ||
| You're gonna be in AOC's harem. | ||
| Oh, she likes those white red-headed white guys. | ||
| She does like the red-headed white boy. | ||
| You gotta wear you gotta wear sandals too. | ||
| You know, I'm not gonna disavow. | ||
| But yeah, that's good. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| If he does, if it does does go through when he prosecutes these people, that gives people down the road at a um in a leeway open path to go and say, Okay, we're gonna prosecute you, you want to go against us. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| From the Daily Beast. | ||
| Do I have to say it or does somebody else Trump's sinister warning of civil war after ice shooting? | ||
| Super excited. | ||
| Democrats said the president's comments were sick and deranged. | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| President Donald Trump has warned Democrats that bad things will happen to them if right-wing people decide to retaliate amid growing tensions over this week's deadly shooting at the Texas immigration facility. | ||
| While investigations into the shooting are still ongoing, the president has made it clear that he believes the radical left is solely responsible for Wednesday's tragedy. | ||
| I mean, they literally did a press conference and they were like, Yep, he was a leftist and uh he hated Trump, and he said he wanted to strike fear and terror into the hearts of ice agents, so they never know if there's a sniper waiting on the rooftop for him. | ||
| No law enforcement officers were hurt in the incident, but authorities say the shooting was politically motivated, targeting ICE agents who are central to Trump's deportation strategy. | ||
| Asked in the Oval Office on Thursday, who was to blame, Trump said he did not doubt the radical left is causing the problem. | ||
| He also name checked people such as Democrat Congressman Jasmine Crockett, who's been critical of ICE's heavy-handed tactics. | ||
| But despite calls to turn down the temperature in America, the president went even further, warning that things were only going to get worse for one side. | ||
| Quote, bad things will happen when they play these games. | ||
| I'll give you a little clue. | ||
| The right is a lot tougher than the left. | ||
| They better not get that uh get they better not get them energized because it won't be good for the left. | ||
| It'll be a point where other people won't take it anymore, and we don't want that. | ||
| Now the funny thing is, uh Trump didn't say civil war. | ||
| Daily Beast did. | ||
| I did not say civil war. | ||
| Daily Beast did. | ||
| The fascinating thing is, while uh for the past several years, people have largely criticized me for covering these articles and talking about this possibility. | ||
| In the past two or three years, it has largely been the left warning that a civil war was coming. | ||
| I not no joke, go to Blue Sky or Reddit. | ||
| And so we we did a few segments on this show where I went to Reddit and looked up all the leftist subreddits where they were basically, they were all saying literally civil war is coming. | ||
| And uh I think it's because they knew that Trump was gonna win. | ||
| More importantly, when Trump took a bullet and narrowly survived, everyone on X, left and right said we were millimeters away from a civil war. | ||
| Now, with the uh I'm gonna say it again, three terror attacks in three weeks. | ||
| I fully I I tweeted this last night. | ||
| Am I gonna go to bed and wake up to news of another terror attack? | ||
| Like I honestly, it's it's been insane. | ||
| Waking up and I woke up in the morning and it's like Ice facility shut up, it's just gonna keep getting worse because they won't stop. | ||
| On CNN the other night, Bakari Sellers is basically once again pushing and pushing and pushing. | ||
| And what I can't understand is why right now, not a single Democrat on any of these shows just says, guys, everybody cool it, stop. | ||
| Conservatives do it all the time. | ||
| Conservatives beg for it to stop. | ||
| Certainly, don't get me wrong, there are liberals and democrats who have called for it. | ||
| However, they tend to be uh uh lower in in notoriety. | ||
| I I I saw a former a former spokesperson for Biden or whatever on uh Fox say, yeah, we don't want this, and I'm like, but no one knows who that is. | ||
| Just no just no following and no and and no influence. | ||
| No, there's not one prominent Democrat that has come out and said, stop attacking law enforcement, let law enforcement do their job, which is the most antine basic thing that you want to hear out of a uh a representative. | ||
| If you're a Democrat and you actually want to see the temperature turned down, and you want to you don't want to see more violence, then you need to come out and say, stop inhibiting law enforcement from doing their job. | ||
| Stop calling them the Gestapo, stop telling them that they have to take their masks off because you know if they take their masks off, what's gonna happen is their family is gonna be doxxed and their families will be attacked. | ||
| Stop doing all of the stuff that you're doing that is not saying law enforcement has a job and they are empowered to do it. | ||
| Just stop doing that, and then I might believe that you actually want the violence to stop. | ||
| And until then, I don't believe that you want the violence to stop. | ||
| No, I I gotta I gotta interject there. | ||
| Um masks should come off. | ||
| And uh I I do agree that, you know, they need to turn the rhetoric down, which can include the mask commentary, but I do think the the feds should not wear masks. | ||
| I think if you want to go out proudly in defense of this nation, you must accept those risks. | ||
| And I do not appreciate, and I certainly understand. | ||
| I am here every single night with my face on camera. | ||
| I have been doxxed, I have been uh swatted numerous times, I've been attacked. | ||
| I understand my job doesn't require me to be on the ground in front of these people, but that's something they accept, even with masks on that there's a physical danger that they are experiencing. | ||
| I think we cannot play a game where we have federal law enforcement being like the threat of terrorism is so serious, we have to hide ourselves. | ||
| I think each and every one of these officers engaging in this should take their masks off and say, I am name, you know, John Smith, a proud American, legally and lawfully enforcing the law, you are terrorists and we won't stand for it. | ||
| That's that that's it. | ||
| We should I I'm sorry, I'm not playing this. | ||
| Federal law enforcement get to hide their faces because they're scared. | ||
| We know, I get it, and I feel for you because the left are violent psychopaths. | ||
| But I I don't think this is how we should be handling it. | ||
| I think we should be we have to be uh um I don't know, steadfast, vigilant, and uh I don't know, uh just we we have to we have to face this challenge head on. | ||
| If we're better than them, real quick, if if if we think we're better than them, which we did we are and we think we are, um, and we feel a certain way we should take off. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| I like the idea of taking off the mask because we stand for a purpose and a point. | ||
| Nope, everyone's putting everyone's posting ones, you're all wrong. | ||
| Like, I I am I am not gonna tolerate. | ||
| I I I will not live in a country where cops walk around with no badge numbers and masks on covering their faces because they're scared. | ||
| Because they're scared. | ||
| You are you are operating under color of law. | ||
| You are entitled to do so. | ||
| You are protected to do so. | ||
| And fear of far left terror, I do not believe is a good enough reason that the regular people should have to live with cops walking around in all black. | ||
| I mean, I think there has to be some sort of preemptive measures for that. | ||
| And then these people with families and kids and livelihoods, like, yes, they're representing the federal government, but I mean, and of course they're scared, but there hasn't been a lot of you know preemptive measures to counter this far left terrorism. | ||
| I mean, we're starting to see it now following the Charlie Kirk's assassination, but these guys are gonna want guarantees. | ||
| Otherwise, I imagine a lot of them will just walk out their jobs if they're told they have to have to unmask. | ||
| You know, they're living next to these people. | ||
| We we've seen from the backlash of you know, of Charlie Kirk's mother, how many people in Blue Sky we just uh hundreds of thousands of likes calling for deaths of you know Ben Shapiro, other uh politicians, political commentators, they want blood, and these people are living next door to them. | ||
| You don't know who they are. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| They're so emboldened that it's gonna be very difficult for t to persuade these guys, yeah, let's demask, and then next minute they're getting knocks at the door, their family's being harassed, or they're actually potentially gonna be able to do that. | ||
| I totally I totally get it. | ||
| You've got two options, civil war or not. | ||
| And if the argument is the threat of far left terror is so pervasive in our hometowns that our own police officers have to hide their identities, you're in a civil war. | ||
| End of story, no argument. | ||
| Let me say it again to everyone out there that are telling me, you're telling me that I have to live in a country where any cop anywhere is going to not have a badge number visible, they're going to cover their faces so they can't be doxxed. | ||
| I don't get to know who they are. | ||
| You are at war when that is the reality. | ||
| If that's what you're saying. | ||
| And I got no problem with that's the reality. | ||
| And I agree with you then. | ||
| If you want to say civil war has begun, then I'll say, okay, mask up. | ||
| Because I understand the argument. | ||
| Law enforcement may quit. | ||
| We'll have nobody willing to actually do the job because the far left is gonna come for their families. | ||
| Yeah, you're at war. | ||
| If you if you're saying they're insurgent terrorists all across this country that will kill you and your family, you are at war. | ||
| That's just it. | ||
| That's what I think it is. | ||
| I think that people don't realize, particularly on the right, they don't realize how aggressive and vicious you know these people really are. | ||
| I don't think that you know, as a society that we've really stepped back and looked at it because the media institutions are kind of they're they're they're encouraging it, right? | ||
| Like all this dehumanizing language like calling them the Gestapo. | ||
| I mean, that's what it's for, is to dehumanize them to justify violence. | ||
| Let me ask you I'm gonna ask you guys a quick question. | ||
| Why does Antifa wear masks? | ||
| So no one knows who they are. | ||
| And and why don't they want anyone to know who they are? | ||
| Because they're doing bad things. | ||
| But what what but that's not an answer. | ||
| Oh, it was an answer, but uh what they don't want to know because they're a group, they're like a a blob of group of people. | ||
| Why does Antifa wear masks? | ||
| They wear masks and well, the black block wear masks and stuff so that way they can blend back into the crowd. | ||
| And what does that accomplish for them? | ||
| So that way they won't get arrested. | ||
| Well, they will get arrested. | ||
| They're anonymous. | ||
| Like you you a cop can grab anybody off the street and arrest them regardless of what they're wearing. | ||
| The purpose of wearing a mask is so that you can't take pictures of their face, you can't share their information online, and if they get caught, you can't prosecute them because you can't prove beyond a reasonable doubt. | ||
| We are asking for that same thing with our law enforcement as well. | ||
| And if you want to acknowledge that we are saying we want our law enforcement people to go out, you can't figure out who they are, you can't take pictures of their face, anything that happens in the fray, we won't be able to pinpoint which officer necessarily because just like Antifa, we have created a large group of individuals that are wearing the exact same clothes and you can't see their face. | ||
| This means that if one of these guys in in a in in a conflict with the far left cracks a skull or whatever, they can't do anything legally about it. | ||
| If that's the argument you're gonna make, we are in a civil war period. | ||
| Well, the big thing with ICE that we're we're all missing here is that the reason they have the mask primarily is because they're dealing with drug bust and the cartel, and like that's a massive infrastructure, especially in the southwest United States, and they've been masking for like 10 years now, and it's primarily because okay, yes, there is a factor at the far left where they dox these guys, but the ice is in a completely different battlefield from the rest of like I guess you would say the right wing is because ICE is having to deal with the cartel, they're having to deal with these drug busts and busting up these human trafficking uh, you know, routes and these sorts of things. | ||
| So it's like it's not the far left they're worried about. | ||
| Like if you talk to these ICE agents, typically it's the cartels and the retribution from those guys is what they're typically. | ||
| I I get it, I get it. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| I I I respect that argument for sure. | ||
| If uh but uh again, I'm gonna say this bottom line. | ||
| If y'all want to say we're at war, then uh war powers. | ||
| And what does that mean? | ||
| Guys, if you're arguing that the these that our federal law enforcement should be able to wear masks because of wartime conditions, I'm actually gonna push you one further and say you are not giving our men and women enough. | ||
| If if the argument is the threat of the far left terror is so great against their families, we got to step it up. | ||
| Well, I mean not just masks. | ||
| They got to get more. | ||
| But they need selective fire rifles. | ||
| They need full full military everything. | ||
| They already have select fire rifles. | ||
| But the point the cops, not the beat cops. | ||
| Uh well, yeah, okay. | ||
| So they don't they usually have a uh a rifle in their car. | ||
| Um they don't carry it them on there. | ||
| But the point is, so you're talking about ICE that's trying to carry out these j these uh you know, these they're trying to wrap up the the illegal. | ||
| Well, I was talking specifically about all federal law enforcement. | ||
| I think a lot of people are taking that to assume just the ice. | ||
| I'm saying Well, generally ICE is the one are the ones that are wearing the masks and stuff, right? | ||
| So there you don't see a lot of well, you don't see we we do. | ||
| That's what people are complaining about, right? | ||
| The the general argument is that police shouldn't be wearing masks. | ||
| So okay, fine. | ||
| I'm saying I don't want to live where police like I mentioned local cops wearing masks. | ||
| Okay, fine. | ||
| But this so the federal law enforcement are wearing masks, right? | ||
| And we don't, and you say you don't want that. | ||
| What that requires, right? | ||
| You're saying if they have to wear masks, that means that the pro the violence and the problems are grit are too great to be considered normal. | ||
| But that for the local police who have jurisdiction to go out and pick up the people that might actually attack the federal law enforcement, they're not doing it because the sanctuary cities are saying no, we won't have these people do these things because we won't, you know, and the and the local municipalities won't do it. | ||
| So the problem is the federal government needs to get the local municipalities and stuff to actually do their job. | ||
| So let me ask you a quick ask quick question. | ||
| When there is a uh, let's just say like a jurisdiction for lack of a better word, that um is not uh uh does not is not required to abide by the laws of a separate jurisdiction. | ||
| It largely says we don't have not you don't have anything to do with us. | ||
| There's there's two separate locations. | ||
| When jurisdiction B sends armed men into jurisdiction A to enforce laws that jurisdiction A says we do not abide by. | ||
| What do you call that? | ||
| Um when they when they send people into the city. | ||
| There are two there are two isolated jurisdictions, yeah, two isolated jurisdictions with separate laws, different worldviews, different rules. | ||
| One city decides to arm a bunch of guys and send them into the other side by force against their will to enforce laws that the other city wants enforcement. | ||
| So you're pointing at civil war. | ||
| I'm not talking about civil war, I'm talking about it's war. | ||
| It's just period war. | ||
| If the argument is that California won't abide by federal law, has has ordered their people to defy federal law, is allowing individuals to defy federal law, they are not part of this country as it is. | ||
| Part of this country means that your your structures, state, city, local, or otherwise, are going to uh abide by uh uh uh legal supremacy in this country up to the Constitution. | ||
| What we are seeing right now, if this is the argument, is that blue states have just said absolutely not. | ||
| And when Trump said this is our our election happened, people said immigration, we're gonna go and start rounding people up. | ||
| What happened? | ||
| At the at the governmental level, Gavin Newsom fought the the federal law federal law enforcement, ordering the National Guard not to listen to Donald Trump under his under his orders, which he's allowed to do because they're not enforcing the law. | ||
| If our ICE agents, let's let's let's isolate it to ICE, are at a point where they're facing a threat from terrorists that have support from Democrat politicians who uh help fundraise for them, NGOs run by prominent Democrat donors, and in California, Gavin Newsom and local law enforcement lets these people attack federal facilities. | ||
| I would call that akin to piracy, right? | ||
| And uh at that point, I think it's very obvious when you break it down that way, we are in a civil war. | ||
| Yeah, I just think like if you look from like Trump's perspective, right? | ||
| He's tried to de-escalate this Charlie Kirk situation. | ||
| That hasn't been like hard rhetoric, get retribution. | ||
| And like in that article you were talking about, he he didn't mention civil war. | ||
| He was just warning like from a very logical position, if you keep attacking the right, eventually they're gonna go, are we supposed to just sit and take it? | ||
| Or are we gonna retaliate? | ||
| That's kind of what he was saying there. | ||
| He wasn't saying it from like a Republican position. | ||
| So if you're Trump, you tell them to demask, which I believe that all federal employees, particularly Laura and Folsom, there should be that accountability, your face should be out there in an ideal world. | ||
| But let's say they do demask. | ||
| Not at war. | ||
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| We we we know that there's gonna be some sort of physical retribution, attacks on these people. | ||
| Uh that's only gonna escalate the situation, right, to something that is gonna be more kinetic, that the potentially is gonna be far more divisive. | ||
| I don't think he wants to be the president that has that is dealing with that on his plate. | ||
| He wants to just get his policies done in the way which is most amical as possible as possible. | ||
| They obviously don't want that, which is why we're in this situation now. | ||
| But then I do not attack I give you two options then stop pussyfooting around and go and arrest all of them. | ||
| Don't give me this excuse I'm scared I have to wear a mask. | ||
| Send the law enforcement to kick the doors into the far left people that are threatening you and put them in prison then take your mask off. | ||
| Agreed 100% I'm I'm sick of this half measure. | ||
| I don't think that they have the ability to isolate the people that are actually making the that are that are likely to do like the doxing and stuff like that. | ||
| That I think it's part of the problem. | ||
| I don't care the the the the doxing is annoying but at the same time it is the individuals who carry out the the violence that are the real problem. | ||
| Getting doxed is bad. | ||
| We've been doxed and it's crazy what people are capable of. | ||
| But the guy who posts my address is a problem the the guy who comes here to carry out the threat is the threat. | ||
| But it's not a unitary organized like attack like so like you look at the the the you know alleged assassin of Charlie Kirk. | ||
| I don't think there were as far as we're aware there weren't big indications that this was a guy who was militarized and violent and ready to assassinate. | ||
| And if it was it seems from the evidence that I've seen it seems like it was something that was almost like a spur of the moment he hit a psychological breaking point and decided to do that. | ||
| The more akin to random acts of violence is not like a big organized premeditated right we're going to get that guy we're going to get that. | ||
| So it's much harder to tackle yes I get it. | ||
| If your argument is any one of these individuals walking down the street at any moment might turn around and stab you then it's time for Trump to dissolve the U.S. Constitution under artic uh under under Presidential Directive 51 create a an enduring constitutional government under a single branch as as uh George W Bush's executive order in 2007 granted the executive branch power to do and then he can send out his masked militarized police force across the country to make sure this doesn't happen. | ||
| But the argument that we are at a point where a random individual might pull out a gun and shoot you at any moment if that is the case it is worse than anyone realizes we are in an active civil war and instead of half assing it and being like just keep doing your job but hide in the meantime that's insane. | ||
| How do you fight an idea? | ||
| How do you fight an idea like it's not a organized structure that Trump dissolves the United States and creates the first American empire and then he creates a massive multi-billion dollar federal police force that supersedes all the local governments and then starts searching people's homes and and I mean what what what is the argument to at any moment a random liberal might detonate a bomb or shoot somebody it's almost like a denazification program at that point. | ||
| You'd have to go in and you'd have to gut the institutions it would be a complete like you said like it'd be a transformative measure. | ||
| I don't think I don't think he's he's got the appetite for that. | ||
| Let's let's just try and do the math. | ||
| Three terror three terror attacks in three weeks. | ||
| Uh-huh it was mainstream liberal ideology that was behind the shoot that the murder of Charlie Kirk. | ||
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| So I I I agree with your point. | ||
| I think you are correct. | ||
| We don't know who's been radicalized. | ||
| It could be too many people and even AOC is espousing the ideology that this guy shared that motivated him on the House floor. | ||
| Okay let's let's let's try denazification so um how do we figure out who holds the ideology and is needing of a re-education well I mean we're going to follow the donors. | ||
| We're going to see like the top down media who this this was a random guy at home like you mentioned it's a random you could look at the media he was consuming right you could you can see the groups that he's in the ideologies he's identifying with. | ||
| Right so my question is how do you find him before he kills Charlie Kirk? | ||
| That's almost like how do you stop a guy if it's almost like a thought crime before they they've done it. | ||
| Agree you can't which is why I said the solution to the problem you're describing is Trump dissolving the the the three branches of government under Presidential Directive 51 creating an enduring constitutional government as prescribed by national security presidential directive presidential directive 51 and then he creates a federalized police force which goes and secures every street corner because we don't know at what point a liberal is going to just go start from at the mouth plot a gun and shoot a random person. | ||
| Now I don't think we can live that way and I don't think anyone would tolerate that. | ||
| So the idea is right now where are we? | ||
| Law enforcement can't do their job because the threat of left wing terror is too great. | ||
| Okay, well, we're losing then. | ||
| We we we are losing if that's the case. | ||
| I don't want to lose. | ||
| There's no such thing as we're going to knock on doors and ask people if they're radicalized and then bring them to a re-education center. | ||
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| There's no way we're going to find some random dude who's on Discord who one day decided to take his grandfather's gun and go assassinate Charlie Kirk, because they're just people walking around. | ||
| If the radicalization is that bad, then the only answer is full-blown full-scale American empire. | ||
| Like Trump has to go iron fist on the table right now before it actually comes to multifaction war across the United States. | ||
| I would argue even Trump's base doesn't have the appetite for that. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I mean, like this this is the point I'm making. | ||
| To everybody who's like, no, law enforcement should wear masks. | ||
| If your argument is we need our law enforcement to mask up because they fear that the left will attack them and will go after their families, we've lost. | ||
| Like what we are describing is we are a diminished capacity force with scared federal law enforcement that are concerned that the might of leftist terror would overwhelm them and they won't be able to do their jobs, so they have to hide themselves. | ||
| The reason why Antifa wear masks is because there is a more powerful state that can crush them, and they're trying to hide from it. | ||
| But when communists take power, they put on uniforms. | ||
| If the argument is our men in uniform have to hide, we are losing. | ||
| I mean, I I know in the UK, for example, they would do this almost harassment of dissidents where before people could commit a crime. | ||
| And it the UK's got a huge amount of these human rights problems. | ||
| But one of the things that they did do fairly well, which has curbed rabbit radicalism, is when they see people expressing these ideological tendencies, they will get these knocks on the door. | ||
| And the idea is that you're being watched, you're going to be less emboldened to go do something. | ||
| But I fully disagree with that law because it can be massively abused. | ||
| You're in a society that is so polarized now with such a lust for political violence on one side, and then the other side is kind of going, well, look, no no no cities burnt down when Charlie Kirk was killed. | ||
| It's like, yeah, that's a great virtue, but when the other side literally wants you dead, what what what is the solution? | ||
| What can Trump realistically do? | ||
| And what what what is the the average Republican voter actually going to do themselves to try and negate that fact? | ||
| It's a very difficult question. | ||
| Well, here's a story from the postmillennial. | ||
| Trump signs order launching all of government effort to dismantle left-wing domestic terror groups. | ||
| The post-millenni reports President Trump signed a memorandum on Thursday launching an administration-wide effort to dismantle left-wing domestic terror groups across the country. | ||
| The order seeks to interdict the groups, block them performing from performing violent acts, and the administration will look at sources of funding. | ||
| Let's play the video. | ||
| They're anarchists and agitators, professional anarchists and agitators, and they get hired by wealthy people. | ||
| Some of whom I know, I guess. | ||
| Yeah, I probably know them. | ||
| And uh you wouldn't know it. | ||
| You at dinner with them, everything's nice, and then you find out that they funded millions of dollars to these lunatics. | ||
| Uh Steve, could you say a couple of words? | ||
| Yes, that's right. | ||
| This is a very historic and significant day. | ||
| This is the first time in American history that there is an all-of-government effort to dismantle left-wing terrorism, to dismantle Antifa, to dismantle the organizations that have been carrying out these acts of political violence and terrorism. | ||
| What we have seen, if you look at whether it be going back to the riots that started with Black Lives Matter and all the way through to the Antifa riots, the attacks on ICE officers, the doxing campaigns, and now the political assassinations, isn't that lone isolated events? | ||
| This is part of an organized campaign of radical left terrorism. | ||
| It is structured, it is sophisticated, it is well funded, it is well planned. | ||
| There is really no parallel like this anything to anything else in the country right now. | ||
| There is an entire system of feeder organizations that provide money, resources, weapons, and when they're attacking ICE officers, they're attacking federal buildings, whether isolating public officials for harassment, doxing, intimidation, and ultimately attempted assassination. | ||
| It is all carefully planned, executed, and thought through. | ||
| It is terrorism on our soil. | ||
| Because of this executive order, cash and PAM are gonna have the tools they need working with Scott to take these organizations apart piece by piece. | ||
| And the central hub of that effort is going to be the joint terrorism task force or JTTF, which sits inside the Federal Bureau of Investigation. | ||
| But for those at home who are worried about terrorism in this country, they need to understand because of President Trump's strength, because of his vision, because of his leadership, we are now going to use the entire force of the federal government to uproot these organizations root and branch. | ||
| And again, that's only possible because of President Trump and his leadership. | ||
| Thank you, Steve Case. | ||
| I'm going to take this opportunity to announce my retirement. | ||
| This will be my last show. | ||
| I've decided that um You're doing this again. | ||
| I shouldn't be showing my face because of the threats against me and my family. | ||
| I think I have been convinced by the audience. | ||
| The threats that we've received over the past week, even being completely uninvolved in anything related to TPUSA, have been so tremendous that my security team warned I wouldn't be able to travel. | ||
| And a disguise wasn't necessarily an option because my travel itinerary stuff can be leaked as well, especially by employees who are doing load manifest. | ||
| And uh the issue being that with prominent mainstream run-of-the-mill liberals posting that they wanted to see these deaths. | ||
| The concern is you're absolutely right, Joseph, in what you were saying. | ||
| We don't know which one of these people might just see a flight manifest and then send a message to a Discord saying Tim Pool's gonna be on this plane. | ||
| Here's when it's landing. | ||
| So the the ultimate decision was we could buy four plane tickets, you, your wife, two security guards, you'll land, we'll have an S two two security guards waiting for you, four-person escort to an armored SUV, which will bring you to a hotel where we'll stand guard outside of your uh outside of the door for uh 24-7 security, be transported to the event where security will stay with you at all times, and then you will go back, you'll be confined to your hotel. | ||
| I said, I don't think I want to do that. | ||
| And uh they said uh you probably shouldn't travel. | ||
| And you know, so I think I think everybody's correct in that I'm not a law enforcement guy. | ||
| I'm just somebody with opinions and the threats are really great, and they're trying to figure out where I live. | ||
| They they they come to my house. | ||
| Why would I take this risk at all? | ||
| So I quit. | ||
| Um uh just uh because just I'm sorry to hear that, Tim. | ||
| Um, but also in the political world, uh, we're talking about how anything can happen any time left wingers or liberal folks can get crazy right off the bat. | ||
| We live in that world now. | ||
| Look at that young lady who got stabbed on the on the on the train. | ||
| Anyone right now, today you walk in on the street, you get shot and killed by anyone by anyone anywhere. | ||
| So it's just we're just focusing on the political world. | ||
| I'll I'll be I'll be more serious about it. | ||
| I I don't understand the argument that people are telling me I'm wrong about asking our law enforcement to stand firm and proud and fight for their country, and they're saying no, they should hide, but then expecting me to have to live in a box. | ||
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| Uh I'd I'd much rather just I can I can you know it's really funny. | ||
| I uh I put on a blue t-shirt. | ||
| Oh, I should describe that declaration. | ||
| Yeah, I've seen that. | ||
| Well, I'll just say it. | ||
| I put on a blue t-shirt, took my hat off and put on glasses, and no one knew who I was. | ||
| You walked and we're like, who is this guy? | ||
| Yep, everybody, and then and then I walked up and they went, uh So uh, you know, I I I can be real, like if if this is the opinion people have honest question, why do you expect me to do this forward-facing publicly with my own name, where I'm worried about whether our food's being tampered with, we can't order food, we have to have bodyguards. | ||
| Like, why am I living this way if our law enforcement gets special protections and privileges? | ||
| You expect me to do all of this. | ||
| I'm just kind of like, maybe you guys are right. | ||
| Maybe we should all hide. | ||
| Maybe we shouldn't put ourselves at risk. | ||
| I can launch a new YouTube channel with uh with an AI. | ||
| There's like the isn't isn't that honest question. | ||
| Is liberal hive mind just AI, right? | ||
| That YouTube channel? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Because it very much sounds like AI. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| That's just how he is. | ||
| Okay, sorry, I didn't mean to impugn your honor, sir. | ||
| Um, but I could just launch an AI channel, no one over it'll um uh make it a woman. | ||
| Yeah, you uh you're using AI Avatar female, like you know, you know what I'll do? | ||
| What the that the anime waifu you do that they tuber. | ||
| Yes, you can move around and they move, you can be like a rabbit with a chick. | ||
| Oh, bro, I'm out. | ||
| Why don't I do that? | ||
| I mean it could be a VTuber. | ||
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| None. | ||
| Easy. | ||
| I mean, those real-time AI voice changes. | ||
| You're way more front-facing towards the political uh world than the cops are than one cop on the street, then one of the things that's a good thing. | ||
| Which is which which my point would would be that most of these cops have substantially less risk than I do. | ||
| Yes, they do. | ||
| So if the argument is uh they should wear masks, no one should know who they are because the left are terrorists. | ||
| I'm like, I'm I'm I'm being 100% serious, thinking about that, like if that's what people really think, I don't they just killed Charlie. | ||
| Like maybe none of us should be doing this, and we should just sit back and let Trump do his thing. | ||
| But for an ICE agent, what difference does it make for their job if they have their face out there in their name? | ||
| Because at the end of the day, they're a badge and they're conducting an operation, a very specific job. | ||
| Like it doesn't matter if they're a public individual or not. | ||
| We're trying to get we're trying to get legal immigrants out. | ||
| Like panelists. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The argument is the far left might try to dox them. | ||
| And I'm sitting here being like, well, I'm already doxxed. | ||
| The far left, once they dox, they might try to kill them. | ||
| Like they're literally trying to kill me, and we have people showing up, and I have to get guns and right. | ||
| But if you're an ICE agent making, I mean, I know they're getting paid decent, but they don't have the money for security or anything. | ||
| And it's like it doesn't, it does it's not advantageous for them in any way to be like a public-facing person. | ||
| Like it doesn't if anything, it just makes it worse. | ||
| But they're not a public facing person. | ||
| No, there's there's tons of anonymous personalities that make tons of money doing political commentary. | ||
| Yeah, it's true. | ||
| Um, yeah. | ||
| I mean, I and I think that's fine. | ||
| I do think there's value. | ||
| Maybe maybe that's where we're going. | ||
| I mean, look, Charlie got assassinated. | ||
| Yeah, I I do I do actually think like anonymous or pseudonyms is like fine in the political space, and they're able to push ideas without fear of getting killed. | ||
| I mean, people ultimately buy from people, and when they're, you know, you are disseminating ideas, they're buying into an idea, they're buying into, especially if you become a living embodiment of that idea. | ||
| I I I want to be like that guy. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| Um, I want to live in the way that he lives, because he seems really fulfilled. | ||
| I understand what you're saying completely, like let's they should be demasked, but what that would be would be a giant gambit, and you would we we know what would happen. | ||
| We would see families being targeted, we would potentially see these targeted assassinations, but it'd be on a much larger scale. | ||
| I don't I don't I don't think so. | ||
| You don't? | ||
| No. | ||
| Well, why why aren't they? | ||
| There's no there is a risk that there's a risk department somewhere that there's an individual down and gone because they need to wear masks. | ||
| Because there's a reason why they killed Charlie Kirk and not an individual ICE agent. | ||
| There's tons of federal law enforcement, including guys that aren't wearing masks, just some of them are. | ||
| And they went three. | ||
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| They killed they killed Charlie. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But like they they tried to kill ICE agents. | ||
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| Like two days ago. | ||
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| John or whatever. | ||
| Oh, right, right, right. | ||
| And they're and they were that so that's that but that was indiscriminate. | ||
| That wasn't a targeted guy's house. | ||
| No, but this is the third terror attack on ice where they went to a facility and attacked random people. | ||
| In fact, he killed detainees. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The argument we're making is they will go to the home of the of the ICE agent. | ||
| I mean, yeah, presumably if they're information, if they're privy to information at some point. | ||
| I mean, you can go on LinkedIn and find this. | ||
| I mean, it's in the cartel is a I mean, the case. | ||
| You got you got you got you got a C BP facility here. | ||
| You could just sit outside and collect license plates. | ||
| I mean, the cart the cartel thing's important. | ||
| We've seen like the assassination of various DEA agents, right? | ||
| Like that that that happens a lot, right? | ||
| They would be in the same realm as that. | ||
| However, the difference is is that that is like you know, the cartels are a foreign organization. | ||
| So it's seen as an external threat, foreign terrorist organization. | ||
| Yeah, no, I think the cartels when it's on your own soil and it's your next door neighbor, it's the guy sitting next to you on the bus. | ||
| It's it it's a completely different, almost like years of led type scenario. | ||
| Uh yeah, if it if they do demask, that obviously not because there has been a risk risk management sort of assessment, probably like hundreds and hundreds of pages long that it's gone actually, it's probably best that these guys stay masked up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The reason why the left doesn't have any leaders, they actually do. | ||
| Uh and I I will tell you this from literally being in these direct action meetings with leftists. | ||
| They have leaders, the leaders organize, they supply money, tools, and then they say, I'm not your leader, and if anyone asks, I'm not in charge. | ||
| Step back. | ||
| When they go out to protest, you'll never see anybody directly leading the group because they they they say law enforcement will target any perceived leaders. | ||
| So that's why they say Antifa is a leaderless movement. | ||
| It has leaders, they're just lying. | ||
| Liberals cover up for them, or they're just stupid. | ||
| Someone is some someone is funding these tools. | ||
| Someone is buying these things and handing them out. | ||
| Someone is telling these people where to go. | ||
| Someone is is saying, here's the route we're going to take. | ||
| And it's usually a small group. | ||
| The hierarchy is natural. | ||
| Usually it's a young guy who says, here's what we're doing, and they say, Okay. | ||
| Because I mean, let's just be real. | ||
| Communism isn't a real thing. | ||
| The idea that there's like a truly decentralized group of friends all holding hands, just being like, how many of you want to vote for a route that goes down Broadway and turns left at 45th? | ||
| Raise your hand. | ||
| They don't do that. | ||
| One guy goes, here's the plan. | ||
| We're gonna march from the financial district down Broadway. | ||
| We're gonna turn left at 42nd, make our way to Bryant Park. | ||
| From there, we've got a group waiting with Shields, and they go, Okay. | ||
| Now who's that guy? | ||
| Who does he work for? | ||
| Where's his money coming from? | ||
| I mean, that's what this needs to resolve. | ||
| Indeed. | ||
| And but has it when we were talking before the show, but that potentially this doesn't actually change much. | ||
| Like, is this really gonna give him the tools and give the FBI the tools to dig into these people, hold them accountable? | ||
| I mean, it is kind of that vague thing. | ||
| I made a donation. | ||
| I don't I don't know what happened to the money after it went out. | ||
| I I thought it was for a good cause. | ||
| It was it was a misappropriation of funds. | ||
| They know what they're doing. | ||
| They're not stupid, they're highly sophisticated actors. | ||
| These when they are doing these donations and they are sort of pushing these ideas and kind of giving someone a tap on the shoulder to do something, it's done in a way where they're not going to be held legally accountable. | ||
| The donors themselves are the people that are actually making the donations, if they're in the small denomination, they likely do think, okay, I'm just doing this to help, because like the people that donated to Black Lives Matter, they were conned, and you know, those people they thought they were doing something good. | ||
| But the people that are running the organization and and those people, you know, they have to file paperwork and and et cetera, those people you can wrap up, and those people the the DOJ can look into. | ||
| Um and then any big donations, like you know, really sizable, hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars, that's something the fed the feds can look into as well. | ||
| What if Trump was like we're declaring Antifa a terrorist organization? | ||
| All of those who are flying the symbols of Antifa, who are alleging uh pledging allegiance to or support for fair game. | ||
| I think that that's yeah, I think that's the solution should be. | ||
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| So our commies are right. | ||
| But you're you're saying that like that means regular citizens going out, taking an uh individual action as a civilian against someone who's flying the anti-fa flag. | ||
| Oh no, my I misunderstood. | ||
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I thought you were talking about law enforcement. | |
| I'm just saying, No, I'm saying Trump tells everyone in this country if you as an individual stop someone who's flying anti-fa like, but I mean, if so, sir. | ||
| I I asked you a question, what if Trump did that? | ||
| Uh that would that would be a terrible uh situation because Well, so the reason I ask that question is that Trump has a designated Antifa a terrorist organization. | ||
| What does that mean if you are a a citizen of this country and you are walking down the street and you see a guy with a gun waving an ISIS flag? | ||
| Will you go to jail if you stop that person? | ||
| Depends on the jurisdiction. | ||
| I that's why I'm asking what would happen. | ||
| The point I'm making with the question is Trump has said Antifa are terrorists. | ||
| What is the legal ramification of a of a citizen saying citizens arrest or citizen enforcement action against a terrorist flying a terrorist flag? | ||
| Yeah, if you're a terrorist on my land, I have a right to stop you in my country from doing terror. | ||
| Well, I don't know what you do. | ||
| Well, I'm just saying, like, in general, like you would think that folks would want to stop terrorism on their own. | ||
| It should be. | ||
| I mean, like, let's say there was like an Islamic terrorist. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I the the the that was waving one of the several flags, I'm not sure they're gonna say we get demonetized, but it's like, I'm sure I doubt a jury in a court would prosecute them for you know, this guy's waving with a firearm or whatever, and the he shoots him and preemptively stops upset terror. | ||
| It all depends on the jurisdiction. | ||
| But I mean totally depends on the jurisdiction. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You do that in New York, you're going to jail forever. | ||
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Right. | |
| Right. | ||
| If the guy was actually if the guy was actually shooting at people in New York, there's a still a possibility that you would go to jail if you took them out. | ||
| Well, I mean, that that's something that needs to be addressed on a federal level. | ||
| Is it even possible? | ||
| Can can they do that? | ||
| I mean, I'm not familiar with the city. | ||
| Well, and uh, it would be a local thing. | ||
| The feds don't actually the feds wouldn't actually have jurisdiction over that. | ||
| The blue states are in a soft succession right now, uh, because like they have sanctuary states, so they're softly succeeding, trying to, but they're not really doing it, but they're just it's really like it's like a soft civil. | ||
| And if there's someone that's way if there's someone that's actually shooting or a or even probably menacing people with a gun, which means pointing a gun at someone, and you shot him in another in a state that has m like stand your ground laws or has the you know second amendment friendly, there's a possibility that you could convince a jury. | ||
| No, he was going to hurt people, and I prevented him. | ||
| Now that would be that would be dependent on the jury, but there is a possibility that look, here's the situation. | ||
| He was saying these things, he was yelling these things, he was pointing his gun at people. | ||
| You know, so I saw that, and I and I figured I needed to take action to defend someone else because he was going. | ||
| I was in in legitimate fear for my life, and I believe that he was gonna cause permanent harm or death to someone else, so I Acted to prevent to end the threat because there was an ongoing threat. | ||
| Now you can make that argument, and if you have a good lawyer and you are in front of a jury that's fairly friendly to the second amendment, and you're in a jurisdiction where there are people that are friendly to the second to the second amendment, you might be able to get you might be able to get justifiable homicide. | ||
| But in a place like New Jersey, in a place like New York, that is not going to happen. | ||
| You will go to jail. | ||
| So this is this is actually surprising. | ||
| My cursory search, which is surprising to me, is that if there is a known foreign terrorist organization individual, ISIS is a great example who is flying the flag and armed and screaming while walking down the street. | ||
| You have no legal right to do anything as a citizen against that person, be it stop them, detain them, uh or or or hurt them in any way. | ||
| They're to be treated according to my cursory search as if they were any other citizen, no matter what. | ||
| So I'm that sounds like something that needs to be dealt with, but obviously with the First Amendment right. | ||
| Is it political expression if you if you're waving the flag? | ||
| Everything that Tim said is true, but it still does depend on the jury. | ||
| Yeah, well, you'll go you'll get arrested, you'll get charge of the city. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Most places you're gonna get arrested. | ||
| I don't think there's very few places where you could get away with shooting someone and you wouldn't even have a lot of people. | ||
| I'm pretty sure it just has a flag. | ||
| Well, uh well, let's let's let's clarify what you mean by arrest. | ||
| Very few, not not none. | ||
| Uh I I I think you need to clarify what you mean by arrest. | ||
| The police are going to take you into case. | ||
| George Jordan's custody is not arrest. | ||
| Like being detained, you mean. | ||
| Arrest is probable cause for a crime. | ||
| You are to you're being taken in to be processed for that for that crime. | ||
| I still I would still say that there are a few. | ||
| There are some jurisdictions where you might not. | ||
| I'm pretty sure uh I can at least speak for West Virginia. | ||
| Uh I would even get down to it depends on the on the property. | ||
| Yes, if you're on your property. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And uh like in Florida with Zimmerman and Trayvon, I don't believe he was arrested. | ||
| He was brought in for questioning and then released, and that's what caused the controversy. | ||
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| I mean, that could be too. | ||
| Again, I think that it does depend it it depends a lot on the the even down to the locality. | ||
| Because if you're in an urban area in a place like Virginia, you might not get the same kind of treatment from the the county sheriff or whatever that you would if you were in a more rural area. | ||
| So do you think it's gonna be a case of perhaps Trump needs to encourage the red states to adopt legislation to facilitate this sort of you know citizens' arrest, you know, potentially if someone's holding around what kind of thing is. | ||
| This is one of those slippery slopes. | ||
| It's a slippery slope, right? | ||
| And also you're talking about this kind of like soft secession if you've got you know a de facto situation in blue states where these guys can walk around unattested and actually not just that but can continue to grow. | ||
| It wouldn't be Trump influence. | ||
| It wouldn't be Trump. | ||
| It would have to be something from that Congress passes to have the force of law. | ||
| And I don't know if that would stand because places like New York or New Jersey or or Illinois, they would fight that under Tenth Amendment grounds. | ||
| They would say we we have the state's right to do that. | ||
| I I I think as we discuss this and go through the math of everything we're we're looking at, the real underlying thing that everyone is just saying is we're in a civil war. | ||
| I I think that it's across the West, there is an ideological war. | ||
| I think that it is it's less of like a civil war, like you guys are here, you guys are there. | ||
| I mean it is more of a years of led type scenario. | ||
| But that's that that that that idea of you guys are here and we're there has never been a civil war ever. | ||
| Well, I mean, the the the American Civil War. | ||
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I mean, but the line and a track one place out of the Spanish civil war as well. | |
| But the American Civil War is the is not a civil war. | ||
| Okay, well, semantic difference. | ||
| But it but so most people would understand the civil war is gonna be something like the American Civil War, the Spanish Civil War. | ||
| But what was it? | ||
| What was the Spanish Civil War then? | ||
| It was an i i ideological war. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But no, like they there were they were factions fighting, and there was no here and there. | ||
| It was uh Franco from Morocco went up to the south of Spain, rallied uh uh uh hit troops to fight against other military, seized control of military assets, and then you saw certain areas that were leaning in one direction nationalist or republican, and the fighting was actually all over the country until militarized force were able to secure certain areas and then push out the far left. | ||
| Yeah, but I mean even if you look at the Syrian Civil War, you can look at the live map. | ||
| There was a front line, right? | ||
| Same with the Spanish Civil War, right? | ||
| Like there are the Spanish Civil War. | ||
| This city is ours. | ||
| Yes, there might be some insurgencies within those cities, but that was like, okay, they've got their military units there, they've got their trucks. | ||
| Right, but it was spotted all over. | ||
| Well, I mean, it wasn't a big thing. | ||
| The Spanish Civil War was blotches. | ||
| There were there there are front lines. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So the the American Civil War was actually a union fractured, a new union formed, and then the union, proper noun, uh huh, sent troops down to force the the separate union. | ||
| So that that's very different from any other civil war ever throughout history. | ||
| What the US uh the United States Civil War, they call it, is more akin to a standard war in Europe or something. | ||
| It is it is more akin to a conventional war by two countries. | ||
| That that's it, that's effectively what the American Civil War was. | ||
| Well, I mean, the like the Spanish Civil War did have front lines. | ||
| This city, this road, these trains were under our control on the other. | ||
| When you look at the Spanish. | ||
| There was still a differentiation whether you're under the nationalists. | ||
| That's correct, because the Spanish Civil War was not a you're there and we're here. | ||
| It was this city is controlled by the Republicans, this farmland and this ruler is by the nationalists. | ||
| Down south, there's a pocket where we control in between, but the nationalists have this and the Republicans have this. | ||
| Yeah, but I mean, in traditional civil wars, control is spread out all over in blotches. | ||
| I mean, even in the Confederacy, there were unionists within the with who were living within the Confederate borders who are still like aiding the unionist side. | ||
| Well, like as an insurgency, yes, but like de facto, like who was controlling law and the government. | ||
| I'm just trying to clarify because the point I'm making is the United States Civil War is not a civil war by most historical standards. | ||
| The fact that there was a North and South dividing line, a Mason Dixon line is solely unique to the American Civil War. | ||
| Other civil wars throughout history had split control in various regions. | ||
| Not a north and a south. | ||
| There's northeastern, western, like when you look at the Spanish Civil War map and you watch how the militaries moved through areas, there were pockets over here that was nationalist, nationalist, nationalist. | ||
| The nationalists was largely like rural areas, the Republicans were largely urban areas, and they were split up all over the place. | ||
| Initially, but then they did become, they did consolidate forces after initial period. | ||
| Franco and his troops started crushing the left and moving through, they gained more control. | ||
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| But the the American Civil War started as something entirely different with a literal line between two unions. | ||
| In fact, Texas, uh, one of the reasons for Texas secession to join the Confederacy was simple proximity. | ||
| The what when Texas voted to join the South the Confederacy, it was simply we have no trade partners. | ||
| So uh I guess this is who we're with. | ||
| It wasn't it wasn't like people in Texas were like, rah, we hate the Union. | ||
| It was like, well, look, for all intents and purposes, we are part of the Confederacy. | ||
| In Maryland, they actually were uh one third sympathetic to the South. | ||
| So it wasn't it and and it's still a very important thing. | ||
| But I mean that there was still what I was trying to get is there were still geographical states and regions which were considered, you know, under the control of uh of those governments or forces, right? | ||
| And that's true today, right now in the United States. | ||
| In the U.S., well, yes, I'm no like I don't think that like the the governor, like like Gavin Newsom, for example, is going to come out on the complete side of like he he denounced the murder of uh uh of Charlie Cook. | ||
| Like he's not on the same parallel as the sort of people that Trump's sort of fighting here. | ||
| I don't think like they might share the same ideological realm, but do I think Gavin Newsom is involved on grassroots level anti for, you know, guys going in and assassinating politicians? | ||
| No. | ||
| I think it they they they share the same ideological space, so as a result, they they don't they don't even want to give an inch of ground because if they give an inch of ground against the left, then who then flood against the left. | ||
| Then that's a good distinction to determine when we're actually in a civil war is when you actually have a policy from a state defy the jurisdiction of the federal government and say we will not abide by your rules. | ||
| Which I guess your argument is gonna be with like the sanctuary city stuff. | ||
| Well, I guess never mind, that's probably not a good distinction because that literally is what all of them are doing. | ||
| So uh if if it's not okay. | ||
| I mean, complete honest question here. | ||
| We have political assassinations, we've got California allowing far leftists to firebomb and attack federal law enforcement with impunity. | ||
| Uh in the Pacific Northwest, they do the same thing. | ||
| Portland uh local law enforcement isn't stopping these guys. | ||
| They've let them do it for now three months, I think it's been going on uh in Portland, and uh the feds are trying to stop it. | ||
| It's not to the point where Gavin Newsom says go and arrest those federal agents, but Gavin Newsom just ordered federal agents to take their masks off. | ||
| So the the question then is we're looking at this gradient to try and figure out when it is technically a civil war, but I can say this. | ||
| We are in a period of assassinations where the mainstream political faction of the left celebrates it. | ||
| Uh, or they lie about it, or they defend it. | ||
| The ideology That motivated the assassin is espoused on the floor of our own congressional house by the most famous Democrat, in my opinion, AOC. | ||
| You can make arguments about any of the other Democrats, but they've largely waned. | ||
| And as pertains to law enforcement, the California government is letting far leftists organize and firebomb federal uh facilities. | ||
| It's California, Oregon and Washington have been doing this for years. | ||
| Newsom tried to commandeer control of the National Guard away from Donald Trump and has now ordered federal law enforcement to abide by his rules and take their masks off. | ||
| Okay, so it's not a civil war. | ||
| An insurrection, perhaps? | ||
| Civil unrest unrest. | ||
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| Still going. | ||
| You know, it's it's what we've been calling we've been calling it civil unrest for, you know, but I'm I'm asking like when is the when is the when does it become a heap of sand? | ||
| If Gavin Newsom, he just came out and said he what where they passed the law, right? | ||
| Mandating authority over federal law enforcement, which they don't have the authority to do, and they're threatening federal law enforcement with arrest. | ||
| So it's it's all about Trump Trump's response, right? | ||
| Trump would have a I imagine I'm not as well versed in American politics as you guys, but he would have somewhat of a mandate to go, okay. | ||
| Well, this state is acting in in rebellion of the union. | ||
| I'm sure there's some sort of legal prerequisites where where he could potentially justify federalizing it, whatever, whatever whatever it may be. | ||
| But I'm sure there's still a huge amount of legal frameworks to go through to try and resolve it before it gets to a point of actually there is no discussion. | ||
| It's like we're gonna do this, we're gonna do that, and we're an impasse. | ||
| Let's pull this up. | ||
| We got the story from CNN. | ||
| It's from a couple days ago. | ||
| California bans most law enforcement officers from wearing masks during operations. | ||
| California became the first state to ban most law enforcement officers, including federal immigration agents from covering their faces while conducting official business under a bill that was signed Saturday by Governor Gavin Newsom and swiftly denounced by Trump administration officials. | ||
| The ban is a direct response to recent immigration raids in LA, where federal agents wore masks while making mass arrests. | ||
| The raids prompt in days of protest and led Trump to deploy National Guard troops and Marines. | ||
| Okay, so here's the question. | ||
| Law enforcement being dispatched to California is now being uh it is forbidden for them to wear masks while in conducting federal law enforcement. | ||
| Do you believe the government of California will enforce this law against federal law enforcement? | ||
| I I I don't see that happening. | ||
| I don't think they have to be. | ||
| I mean, like we saw in the 60s something somewhat similar in the civil rights era where the feds crack down on states for not you know not playing ball, and then the federal government won. | ||
| That's vice versa. | ||
| Feds feds uh cracking down on on states. | ||
| This is trying a state trying to crack down on feds. | ||
| So this is a very important thing. | ||
| That's a no from Raymond. | ||
| Yes, sir. | ||
| What do you think, Phil? | ||
| What will you think Gavin Newsom left state troopers go and arrest ICE for wearing masks? | ||
| I don't think he will. | ||
| Um I think that he'll posture. | ||
| I think that he'll posture and and I but I don't think that it'll actually dispatch uh I think that's the line. | ||
| Yeah, it's a big percent. | ||
| If if Gavin Newsom arrests federal law enforcement, we are in new territory. | ||
| That's a hundred percent the line, yeah. | ||
| I think the the the the struggle we have with the concept of civil war is no one knows when you're in a civil war. | ||
| Throughout history, every single civil war that they have always argued and debated whether or not they were actually in a conflict. | ||
| And as we bring up famously, we historically look back at Fort Sumter as the beginning of the American Civil War, but the people who lived in the country at the time didn't even think we were in one and went and picnicked at the first battle of Bull Run. | ||
| Because they didn't think a civil war was happening. | ||
| And then the Confederates won, routed the North, sent them packing, and then thought the war ended. | ||
| They said, that's it, no war. | ||
| We've just shown them. | ||
| And then Lincoln was like, nah. | ||
| Send in the troops. | ||
| And then four other states were like, oh my God, this is getting crazy. | ||
| What's going on? | ||
| Took a long time. | ||
| The uh first seven states to secede from the union happened before Abraham Lincoln was even president. | ||
| Several months. | ||
| So I don't know that we'll actually know until we're well into it. | ||
| In fact, I believe they called it uh what do they call it? | ||
| First it was like a rebellion in the South. | ||
| Then it was called a conflict between states, and then I think it was like a year later or a year or two, they started calling it the Civil War. | ||
| Right in the United States. | ||
| I mean, it is reasonable to say that it's possible, like right now, like looking back, you know, they'll say that now was the beginning of it, that the assassinations, that the the first shots that were fired were actually people assassinating other people and taking shots at law enforcement and stuff like that. | ||
| I mean, even though it's a good thing. | ||
| Well, take a take a look at this on phone. | ||
| Who wants to read that headline? | ||
| Uh Charlie Kirk's murder could become another Fort Sumter. | ||
| You know, the fact that this is something that the respectable journalists are talking about now, the Hill, um, which is absolutely legacy media. | ||
| Um to call this, you know, far fetched now now, with all these all of these attacks on ICE facilities with the attempts on Trump with the murder. | ||
| This is no longer far fetched. | ||
| This is no longer the the stuff of a can I can I can I can I cash out like a 50 leg parlay or something on this one? | ||
| I'm going back seven years on this boys. | ||
| I mean, I'm I'm gonna play a bit of devil's advocate here. | ||
| I think that a lot of these legacy media are coming out with these very sensationalist headlines because they are losing to independent media and they can't keep up. | ||
| The people aren't interested in clicking some like really kind of like boring white bread uh sort of headlines anymore. | ||
| Like everybody's so sort of brain rotted from the scrolling, everything's sensationalized, will ball three every other week that they kind of have been pushed towards this more radical discourse. | ||
| But the the the the knock on effects of reading stuff like that, it are very real. | ||
| It's right, it does put it in people's heads. | ||
| It's true, but if there weren't so many people that have died, there weren't so many attacks. | ||
| There, I mean, like we're there were four ice facilities attacked since August 1st, probably I think actually in the past three weeks. | ||
| So four are no no no, it's been like it's like with three attacks in three months. | ||
| I think sure. | ||
| I googled it last night before when I did the intro, and it was four. | ||
| I actually I did it on Grok, and it was four attack four ice facilities attacked since August 1st, is what I checked. | ||
| Um I asked how many how many ice facilities had been attacked. | ||
| Um so yeah, like whether or not there were people killed, not all of them had casualties, but there were four ice attacks or four ice facilities attacked since August 1st. | ||
| So in the past two months, like you have Charlie Kirk that was murdered, you have uh Donald Trump that was the assassination attempt that was just over a year ago. | ||
| Then there was you you can say that the attacks I don't think that the attack, uh the murder of the the Minnesota lawmaker was actually politically motivated, but there are people that'll swear up and down that it was. | ||
| Um this is this is something that is not ha uh like unusual at this point in time. | ||
| Like this is something that is is become almost commonplace. | ||
| Just I mean, people are waking up saying, Hey, am I gonna see am I gonna find out that there was another another you know political murder in the country? | ||
| Yeah, I mean even like the Epstein stuff with like the lawyers disappearing and like dying and these suicides, I think like that it has become a lot more of a violent political atmosphere in America. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, there's always become normalized to you almost you're not surprised now. | ||
| Like if if I sort of know this assassination, I don't think I'm gonna have the same reaction that I did to to Charlie Kirk's. | ||
| I'm I'm somewhat expectant that seeing the level of praise that it's had from the left that someone is gonna do a copycat attack. | ||
| Because they're gonna hit that sort of like cult status. | ||
| So we've got uh half correction. | ||
| It's actually pretty wild that we can't and don't cover every story because if it doesn't reach it doesn't bubble up, we don't know. | ||
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| But on August 29th, a person attempted to run over a C BP agent. | ||
| Uh we've got the uh an August 25th was bomb threats to a Dallas ICE facility. | ||
| If you're talking about the ambushes, then it's three in like three months. | ||
| If you're talking about everything from death threats to riots, it's five. | ||
| No, no, it's four, it's four. | ||
| So um, and I guess CPP isn't really count. | ||
| So it it's three since August 1st, broad, and then violent attacks like rifle long range, those terror attacks, I think it's three and three months. | ||
| On June 29th, when they got the 20-year-old set the fire and he killed the the fireman. | ||
| He killed the chief of police and John Morrison. | ||
| Where was it? | ||
| Um Clanfield Mountain first Texas, I believe. | ||
| It was not ice. | ||
| You guys talked about it. | ||
| No, no, it's not ice, but I'm saying they set up um ambushes, you know, more bright, more violent. | ||
| There was the Zizian assassination of the CPP guy earlier this year. | ||
| Yeah, it's been pretty dang wild. | ||
| So we're we're definitely in bleeding Kansas. | ||
| Isn't it kind of funny to say, like, hey guys, bleeding Kansas confirmed? | ||
| Uh yesterday on the Will Kane show, they opened by calling this bloody September. | ||
| I think Jack Pasobic was the first person I saw who who called it bloody September. | ||
| And uh I agree. | ||
| The reason why we say bloody September is it uh it condenses all of the ideas of the attacks into a single phrase, which can invoke that knowledge. | ||
| That's so it's it's a zip file for memory. | ||
| That's why we give things names. | ||
| Do you think that like the economic fallout of something like this escalating though is gonna be far too great? | ||
| I mean, the thing that people care about the most is ultimately do I have a good standard of living? | ||
| If there is a you you think that like he just have that sort of political climate, because I mean when you look at There's no kids. | ||
| There's no kids. | ||
| The uh gen alpha is half the size of Millennial and Gen Z. That's that's the problem. | ||
| Uh but is up, but it's all is on the conservative side though, because I I've never seen this many young families of like guys in their twenties married, kids highly Christian. | ||
| But even even with that trend among Gen Cen Alpha is 40 million. | ||
| Estimates from 40 to 42 million. | ||
| That is half the size of uh of uh millennials and and gen, I think they're calling it gen Bravo because nobody likes beta is is just starting now. | ||
| Meaning our economy is fried no matter what we do. | ||
| When you and and you now have a large cohort of young, single, childless men. | ||
| On which side though? | ||
| On both sides. | ||
| Now it's less less likely, I think a third of Gen Z men are leaning right, but either way. | ||
| For like Gen Z men largely are not having relationships and having kids. | ||
| Um look, I was supposed to have a kid in my twenties. | ||
| That's that's human standard. | ||
| That's what all humans have. | ||
| But I turned how old was I 22 or 23 when the financial crisis happened? | ||
| So sleeping on couches, I didn't even realize at the time something was wrong. | ||
| I I lived with like nine dudes, a bunch of college-age dudes in this massive loft where we all spent a couple hundred dollars because it was cheap. | ||
| And it was like six bedrooms, and uh I was in the pantry. | ||
| Pantry was nice. | ||
| A door to the kitchen and a door to the living room. | ||
| And it was, I think probably six by eight. | ||
| No, no, no, no, it was probably eight by ten. | ||
| Not bad. | ||
| A huge pantry. | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Walk in, two side two doors, put some curtains up. | ||
| It's pretty cool. | ||
| We have parties. | ||
| I would put shelves at the doors and I'd uh sell booze. | ||
| But anyway, I was supposed to be uh working a job and having a family, but that was impossible. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| And so even right now, Gen Z guys aren't aren't doing this. | ||
| Uh Roger Lynch talked about this. | ||
| I don't know, you you were talking to him earlier. | ||
| I don't know if you brought it up, but historically, whenever you get a large population of young men without children, you get war. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That's true. | ||
| And then AI is gonna take away all their jobs here in ten years, five years. | ||
| They cooked. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We cooked. | ||
| Yeah, the one saving the one saving grace is that young it's not a saving grace, it's actually a very sad thing. | ||
| But young men's like hormones are completely nuked. | ||
| So a lot of them don't even have the testosterone required to like sign up for like a f like a full-blown civil war, you're just gonna get insurgents from the left. | ||
| That's all you're gonna get. | ||
| The right wing guys are actually like a big thing. | ||
| The one thing that I'm really surprised that well, the one thing that I think we should expect as things escalate would be like more bombings, because that was something that was really common in the in the 70s, in the early 70s, late 60s, the weathermen and stuff, they there were over a thousand bombings in between nineteen seventy and nineteen seventy-two. | ||
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Wow. | |
| And that that's something that hasn't taken, you know, you haven't seen a lot of uh, thankfully. | ||
| Um but as thing as tensions rise and you have f people that aren't as suicidal looking to to harm um you know their political opponents, that's the kind of thing that I think we we need to be concerned with as like the next level. | ||
| If if the if that does start becoming something that's common, then you know that I feel like that's the the next escalation or would be looked at as the next excellent. | ||
| The reason we're not seeing it is there's three reasons. | ||
| The first is it requires coordination to some degree. | ||
| I know there's obviously lone wolves over the years, but it requires a degree of coordination with others. | ||
| Two is people are like not smart enough to assemble these. | ||
| I mean, I know you can like follow directions online and stuff, but there's actually a lot of stories of people blowing them up in their house and chat GPT. | ||
| I know that, but I'm saying people like are blowing themselves in houses. | ||
| Like if you look it up, it happens somewhat frequently. | ||
| And then the third is that the government's actually done a pretty good job of making it difficult to collect the materials you would need to put together a body. | ||
| Yeah, that's one thing that I think is is a good point. | ||
| The the the base materials to do this stuff, like the government is actually watching for people that purchase certain things in order or whatever. | ||
| So that might be why. | ||
| The fourth would be uh to your points would be and the Phil's point um that they are more suicidal, unfortunately nowadays than they were back in the day. | ||
| Back in the 60s or 70s, 70s, you were saying they probably had more reasons to live, but nowadays they're sitting in their house all by themselves in the bedrooms on 4chan and Reddit, and you know, they know their uh mental health is way worse. | ||
| It's a bit grim, but someone made an important it's just an important distinction, is typically a shooter is planning on not making it out of the operation versus a bomber, they're planning to go on the run, and there's gonna be a manhunt to find them. | ||
| So that's the kind of the distinction is you're dealing with a death cult and ultimately they just want to get out of this world, they feel nothing inside versus a bomber. | ||
| There's like an ideology, like you think something's something's important enough to maybe try and do it again. | ||
| It's like uh um uh a bushnel you're talking about earlier to uh today. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Oh, he's gonna be remembered forever. | ||
| I'm gonna, you know, myself on fire. | ||
| Nobody's there. | ||
| It's an important point. | ||
| The only the only the only thing on the left, the only thing they value from young white men is like martyrdom. | ||
| As like the only thing you can provide for the left if you're like a young white guy, is like suicide for the cause versus the right, they're just like, Yeah, we can use you here, we can use you here. | ||
| Turning point USA, we'll get you right in here. | ||
| It's like clockwork. | ||
| The left's like, you're gonna have to kill yourself, dude. | ||
| It's the only way to contribute to the movement. | ||
| And so that's why primarily why it's so big uh when they join. | ||
| I'm compiling a list of politically motivated attacks 2025, and it's already the list that I've got is insane. | ||
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Jeez. | |
| This is bleeding, Kansas. | ||
| Uh the crazy thing is, as we were mentioning, like did you guys even know that in Maine someone tried running over a C BP agent? | ||
| In Chicago, an illegal immigrant tried running over a uh a uh one one of the ice guys, so he shot him and killed him. | ||
| I think that happened in Florida like a day later. | ||
| So all of these are happening on top of uh the political violence that's high level. | ||
| Then you've got the low-level riot stuff that often doesn't break to national news. | ||
| You've got the ongoing riots that are happening in Portland that they just started arresting these people, it's been sustained for some time. | ||
| Uh you had the ramming in uh New Orleans. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Yes, that's right. | ||
| That was uh on New Year's right or right around New Year's. | ||
| Yeah, and you know, we were gonna go. | ||
| January 4. | ||
| That's where we were playing my wife and I were planning on going to New Orleans. | ||
| And at the last minute, we changed our mind and didn't go. | ||
| And then we saw the news and we were like, we would literally be right there. | ||
| And didn't that one uh young kid get run over uh by that old man up in Washington or something in an alleyway because he was a Republican a couple of years ago. | ||
| I think we washed remember that he got ran over for being a um not. | ||
| I don't know if it was Washington, but there was a kid that got yeah, yeah. | ||
| I think I think the the distinction though is like as you were saying before, it's they're not organized. | ||
| There's they seem to be emotional outbursts, which I mean I had myself in the UK where we were putting up the flags, and some guy literally just some boomer left abandoned his car on the side of the road, came running over and tried pushing us off a ladder that was like you know two to almost three stories high. | ||
| Luckily, we we spotted him and we were able to bail to the right, which was a grass verge rather than the left, which was a main road. | ||
| But if he'd have come up from behind, I don't know. | ||
| What was his plan? | ||
| He was gonna knock us off. | ||
| If we hit a head on the road, one of us could have died. | ||
| He wasn't thinking, it was an irrational emotional moment. | ||
| I almost felt sorry for the guy because he got himself so wound up, he's clearly so like stuck in his head and sort of enthralled by this ideology that he feels like it's worth to just like kind of crash out and break that mundaneness of his life up. | ||
| Uh they they do see themselves as these revolutionaries, particularly that sort of like boomer generation, which I saw the guy who um tried assassinate in Trump. | ||
| I think he was actually he did he get indicted uh or like uh charged to uh Roth, yeah. | ||
| The Roth, yeah, he got uh counts or something like that. | ||
| It's like they grew up in like the 70s where like you know, they were the counterculture, that hippie culture. | ||
| They believed the world was gonna be John Lennon's imagination. | ||
| It's just like, well, you know, reality check, that it doesn't work. | ||
| Um the world's never gonna be like that. | ||
| But in their head, there's still this like they're sticking it to the man. | ||
| We're actually like the counterculture is coming from the right, particularly in Europe, and I it kind of has happened now, it's become the mainstream. | ||
| Um, but but again, going back to my previous point, it's not sad, organized. | ||
| It's like, yeah, it's just like it is yeah, it is this lone wolf, like sad attacks of people who are probably pretty depraved individuals who actually just need help. | ||
| Yeah, uh, but how how do you get help to those people? | ||
| Because they sit and they fest them and it's all online. | ||
| They need help, but they nihilism, which is petrified. | ||
| Yeah, they're they need help, but they have to be open to help. | ||
| Which is they don't believe they need help. | ||
| That's the problem. | ||
| They well, I mean, yeah, they they're not open to being helped. | ||
| So if if someone's not going to look, you can you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink, right? | ||
| You can tell people, look, here's here, this will actually make you feel better. | ||
| This is actually these are positive steps that you can do to not feel hopeless, to not feel like there's no uh there's no meaning in life, but that doesn't mean they're gonna do it. | ||
| It doesn't mean they're gonna take the steps that you're that you're that you're recommending. | ||
| And it's likely that they're gonna be hostile to you for recommending it. | ||
| Well, I'm saying like the left is already fairly organized, but they're not organized in a violent way, uh as far as we know right now. | ||
| Unless I mean this we'll see what comes of this Charlie Kurt case. | ||
| Perhaps it was. | ||
| I know we saw people who allegedly had full knowledge. | ||
| Perhaps it was, perhaps it wasn't. | ||
| We'll we'll see. | ||
| That that would be if it is organized, that would kind of change the game a little bit. | ||
| So this is the list that GPT gave me. | ||
| The New Orleans ISIS attack, the uh Coventry, Vermont C BP agent killed by Zizians. | ||
| In May, a Jewish museum shooting from a uh uh pro-Palestine motive. | ||
| Uh June 14th, the coordinated shooting of Democratic state legislators. | ||
| That one's up in the air because that one may have been personally motivated. | ||
| We don't know for sure. | ||
| Uh Alvarado was the Prairie Land Ice Facility ambush the same day. | ||
| Portland, Oregon, was attacking an ICE facility. | ||
| Uh July 20th in New York, midtown Manhattan mass shooting at 350. | ||
| Was that really? | ||
| When was that? | ||
| Which what was that Trente Aragua? | ||
| That search Google search. | ||
| Google that. | ||
| You say Manhattan? | ||
| Yeah, July 28th, midtown Manhattan mass shooting. | ||
| August 27th was the Annunciation shooting. | ||
| July 28th. | ||
| That was the dude that ran into the went up to the uh the 33rd floor or whatever. | ||
| Oh the city. | ||
| Oh, right, right, right, right. | ||
| The NFL thing. | ||
| Yeah, allegedly, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, the NFL thing. | ||
| But that was also a black rock building. | ||
| And he went to a black rock office. | ||
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Oops. | |
| Yeah, right. | ||
| I don't believe it. | ||
| Uh August 27th was Annunciation. | ||
| Orim, Utah, September 10th. | ||
| That's Charlie Kirk. | ||
| September 15th, political canvaser was stabbed. | ||
| Whoa, I didn't know that. | ||
| September 19th was the ABC station. | ||
| Whoa, really? | ||
| I didn't know about the September 15th attack. | ||
| And they're and they're still missing a whole bunch. | ||
| How how many still thought of curiosity included more than one perpetrator, though? | ||
| Uh I don't know. | ||
| The the the challenging thing is one of the attacks on the on an ice facility was like five people. | ||
| It was the the the it was Black Rock office that was attacked, right? | ||
| I forgot about that one. | ||
| That was in midtown New York, yeah. | ||
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Right. | |
| And they said it was the NFL, but it was he was he he was in the Black Rock office, and they're like, he meant to go to the NFL, I swear. | ||
| Mike, I don't I don't know that I believe that. | ||
| Uh what's the uh what's the obvious? | ||
| So they they are missing one of the the uh ice facility attacks. | ||
| This is the cyber truck thing as well. | ||
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That wasn't too oh yeah, they're forgetting all the Tesla stuff. | |
| Where's all the Tesla stuff? | ||
| I mean, just a lot going on this year. | ||
| We we need to get a comprehensive list of all of the terror attacks for this year, so we can have this in a in like a a a Google document database to s to actually start tracking this. | ||
| Because this year's been insane. | ||
| The terror attacks on Tesla. | ||
| What was there? | ||
| Like 70 of them? | ||
| And the one guy that blew himself up? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Supportedly, you know, the um the guy, the the military guy who was like locked and cocked right in the room. | ||
| Oh, right, right, right at the last minute. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It was in lost. | ||
| And the it's all metal, so it didn't blow up anything. | ||
| It just blew himself up. | ||
| I mean, what's interesting is that when you ask for these statistics, it's like there's no left-wing violent attacks. | ||
| Like I I I I see that a lot. | ||
| I mean, I think there is a certain degree of when things haven't gone fatal, perhaps it's just been an attack on the street. | ||
| These things either don't go reported or like I I I've seen it by myself at like political rallies in the in the UK that you know a leftist might throw something at some off a rock and it might hit someone that might get hurt, but they don't actually report it to the police because they're like thick skin, and you know, I I want to handle this myself. | ||
| I'm not gonna I don't trust the police, I'm not gonna file it. | ||
| So this it'd be interesting to see the the the real numbers uh just behind this sort of low-level violence in the streets. | ||
| Yeah, you watch like um Nick Shirley's video when he he like tracked the ice raid in Minneapolis and they were like going through the street, and people were like pelting the cops with like just trash and rocks and that sort of thing. | ||
| But since it was such a chaotic environment and ice was just doing an operation, they're getting in and getting out, there's not like a huge federal police presence. | ||
| Yeah, they couldn't make arrest. | ||
| So all those I mean, maybe they followed up on it. | ||
| I'm sure they did, but at least for what the public knows, all that wasn't counted. | ||
| It's like if you started counting all of these like just attacks on officers that are taking place during these ice raids that we're seeing being documented, like it would be outstanding the amount of the amount of leftist violence that's been. | ||
| They cancel woman who pu who punched one of the agents. | ||
| Yeah, oh yeah she's got in trouble, I forget her name. | ||
| Um Red Jack. | ||
| Lamonica McIver. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, New Jersey. | ||
| So that's another, you know, like like can we just stress this when we're when when we blame Gavin Newsom for his rhetoric and then the ice terror attack, can we just point out like a Democrat in Congress punched a a federal law enforcement a agent, like literally punched him on camera, I think more than Once. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So when they're I I'm just, I don't understand. | ||
| Like, why are we? | ||
| I'm not even I'm not even I don't even I I'm not talking to these people. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| There's they're coming on, they're being like, no, you understand we are not for this. | ||
| Like, shut up. | ||
| You elected this woman. | ||
| She went and punched the guy, and then you lied and claimed she didn't. | ||
| You put her on CNN and CNN claims she didn't. | ||
| And we all watched the video. | ||
| This is insane. | ||
| There's literally a slow-mo. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Like see the punch connect. | ||
| And I don't know what where that fish came from. | ||
| Punch is like a girl, by the way. | ||
| She does, yeah. | ||
| I mean, it makes sense. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So far. | ||
| Oh, we had 20. | ||
| Gotta be close. | ||
| There's the list is actually really big when you include all of the uh Tesla stuff. | ||
| So right now, and this is not even this is only like 10 minutes. | ||
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Uh one, two, three. | |
| We got three in January. | ||
| We got six. | ||
| March was crazy. | ||
| Seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen, twenty, twenty-one, twenty-two, twenty-three, twenty-four, twenty-five, twenty six oh, okay. | ||
| No, no, it's twenty-four. | ||
| Twenty-four just on this list so far. | ||
| Uh is it more than actually it's more than that. | ||
| Twenty-six. | ||
| Just on this list that I have so far is twenty-six, and I know it's missing some because I can think of more that it's not pointing out. | ||
| But uh, I'm I'm I wanna I want to get this out there. | ||
| We need to make a comprehensive list because when you go through it, it's all leftist. | ||
| There's not a single instance that I can find of a Trump supporter going and committing some kind of terror. | ||
| It's pretty crazy. | ||
| Well, actually, not really crazy at all, if you think about it. | ||
| It's all leftists, and it's in line exactly with with like the liberal democratic party. | ||
| Hey, we have a statement from uh from Comey here. | ||
| Let's play it. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Here's there's Comey. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| That's a statement. | ||
| He's got makeup. | ||
| My family and I have known for years that there are costs to standing up to Donald Trump. | ||
| But we couldn't imagine ourselves living any other way. | ||
| We will not live on our knees. | ||
| And you shouldn't either. | ||
| Somebody that I love dearly recently said that fear is the tool of a tyrant, and she's right. | ||
| But I'm not afraid. | ||
| And I hope you're not either. | ||
| I hope instead you are engaged. | ||
| You are paying attention, and you will vote like your beloved country depends upon it. | ||
| Which it does. | ||
| He's right. | ||
| My heart is broken. | ||
| That last for the Department of Justice. | ||
| Everything he said so far. | ||
| But I have great confidence in the federal judicial system, and I'm innocent. | ||
| So let's have a trial and keep the faith. | ||
| Cut out the I'm innocent and let's have a trial. | ||
| The whole statement, I could I could I could ascribe that to Trump and everyone would agree with it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, the fact that he's blaming it on Trump when it was a grand jury, right? | ||
| Like this isn't right. | ||
| This isn't a directive by Donald Trump to say go get that guy. | ||
| They presented evidence to a grand jury, and the grand jury said, okay, we think that there's enough evidence here to indict. | ||
| So I mean, look, if he's if he feels comfortable going to trial, then you know, bully for him. | ||
| But it'll go to trial, and and we'll see what uh an actual jury says. | ||
| What other options does he have other than kind of letting it go to trial? | ||
| That's his best, it's the most pragmatic thing. | ||
| You're not gonna go out and say, I'm not innocent. | ||
| He's uh he's gonna fight his case. | ||
| So they were really happy when uh uh the grand juries didn't indict other people. | ||
| They were like, Yeah, no, didn't he get indicted because they were wrong? | ||
| Well, he got indicted, like you said, so I'm going on there. | ||
| You know, uh, I hope everybody goes out and votes like their country depends on it because Comey is right. | ||
| Um, what Comey did, these people are abject evil. | ||
| And uh my only fear in all of this is that Trump is not Superman. | ||
| My fear is that Donald Trump is actually a bit of a hothead, and um, I think he is motivated largely by personal interest, and we need to win. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| If people like Comey and his ilk get power once again, they are going to destroy this country. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And that's an understatement. | ||
| I hope you guys like Brick breaking rocks, because we've seen the way these people talk. | ||
| We saw what they tried to do. | ||
| We saw what they literally did. | ||
| They put Trump's lawyers in jail. | ||
| They said, if you even try to defend Trump, we will send you to prison. | ||
| The fact that they went after his his lawyers is should be something that makes people take notice, right? | ||
| Obviously, the far left are gonna they're gonna say, well, it was the right thing to do no matter what. | ||
| But the fact that they went after the people that are he that he constitutionally has a right to def a defense and the people that were there to provide that constitutionally protected right, they went after them and indicted them and charged them as co-conspirators. | ||
| That's beyond the pale. | ||
| So I don't I don't I mean and if if they're willing to do that to Trump in a very public-facing way, imagine what would go on behind closed doors, right? | ||
| Like we we see it in the UK, these cases which they're not high profile people, they just you know, guys on the ground, individual activists being pressured in into into a guilty plea of stuff they didn't do, uh, and that their lives are ruined and they're kept in awful condition, sometimes kept in solitary because you know general population is so hostile towards them. | ||
| We've got a huge like problem with Islamic gangs in the in the in the prisons in the UK. | ||
| And if they find out you're a far right racist or whatever they want to call you, you they will kill you. | ||
| Like, so so you you know, you're not just going to a normal prison, you're in solitary. | ||
| And that that that could be a reality here where the It is. | ||
| Yeah, with J Sixers especially. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
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| Before you jump to that, there's uh USA today about an hour ago was reporting that NORA had scrambled fighters to intercept Russian planes off of Alaska. | ||
| Um that happened yesterday too. | ||
| Yeah, I thought that was just an I thought that was an echo. | ||
| No, what are they what do they call that in Minority Report? | ||
| Yeah, I forget what it's called, but yeah, uh I it might have been an echo, but yeah, so they're they're you know there's all this talk about the the I think it's whatever, all of the top generals and their staff coming to Quanaco next on the 30th, and there's also talk of of you know conflict with Russia, Russia's foreign mister Minister Lavr, I think it's foreign minister Lavrov is his name, but he uh he was saying that NATO and the United States are already in a war with Russia. | ||
| Um, yeah, but this is more just raising the tensions. | ||
| Oh, they're the the the pizza index is through the roof. | ||
| Yeah, they're they're yeah, hexeth Heggseth has called in a meeting of like all military personnel, like, let's go, baby. | ||
| All right, let's go. | ||
| So maybe the stuff that's going on in the US won't matter. | ||
| Maybe we'll have to try to P.S. Oopy says DJ T needs to need to do an address over all this violence and division. | ||
| He needs to come out and just call this what it is. | ||
| He needs to be he needs to open, transparent, and make it clear that now is a time for choosing. | ||
| The left is doing all the violence this whole year, and when Trump comes out and says that the left is doing violence, they go, How could you accuse us? | ||
| You're so divisive. | ||
| It's like, well, because you guys are shooting people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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| And he's and he's been he's been good on the issue, like better than the entire GOP, quite frankly, on the issue. | ||
| Every time he's had to speak on, he specifically addresses leftist violence. | ||
| Meanwhile, just find a soundbite from your senator, your congressman. | ||
| They usually dance around at the road. | ||
| Get out there and get in people's faces. | ||
| Would it be beneficial to America if he came out and said, yo, let's just relax, let's chill out a little bit, everyone. | ||
| Oh, because Trump's the right's already the right is already chilling and relaxing. | ||
| The left's killing. | ||
| The right is literally going to Trump being like, please Trump just enforced the law. | ||
| And then they were like, best we can do is a commemorative coin. | ||
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If you when I was at the I'm sorry, I'm sorry. | |
| That's a bad joke, by the way, because Trump's got these executive orders where he's saying go after Antifa. | ||
| And I do like the idea of putting Charlie Kirk on a silver dollar set. | ||
| That'd be sweet. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I mean, like when I was at the Charlie Cup Memorial on Sunday, um, speaking to people, all the speeches were like, we didn't burn down anything. | ||
| Look at the way we responded. | ||
| We responded in peace. | ||
| It's like, great. | ||
| And then people were expecting Trump to come out with something hard hitting, and he he really didn't. | ||
| But already when I was speaking to before, I'm like, do you think Trump's gonna come out with anything? | ||
| They're like, no. | ||
| So that they're already demoralized in in in that sense. | ||
| And that they don't think JD Vance is even gonna, and these are the the diehard people, these are the people who are gonna come to the events. | ||
| People flew from all over America to come here. | ||
| You know, some of them were uh pretty big donors, and even there, like he's he's not doing enough. | ||
| Trump had a Gettysburg opportunity. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He could have come out and said Something very much like, you know, 250 years ago or whatever, several men fought against tyranny to birth this great nation, blah blah blah. | ||
| And then he could have said a young man was, but he kind of just went off the cuff and did his Trump thing. | ||
| It's like talking about autism, Tylenol. | ||
| Well, I mean, it's like we're talking about we're discussing civil war, all this sort of thing. | ||
| It's like the margin is actually kind of thin for Trump speech writers. | ||
| Like he has to actually be somewhat incisive with what he says because you know, there's a lot of rider dies. | ||
| So Finn Zup says it's not rumors, I'm pretty certain he publicly announced he's gonna have the DOJ looking at Soros. | ||
| I do not trust Bondi at all, though. | ||
| She seems easily bought, or she's just noticeably dumb. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Maybe that's why Trump likes her because he bought her and she's dumb. | ||
| So he's like doing she goes, okay. | ||
| I don't think so, though. | ||
| I think I think I think they know what she's doing. | ||
| Mike Davis actually was tweeting about that. | ||
| He's like, She's got more balls than all of the guys in DC combined. | ||
| And Mike Davis is I mean, I feel like he's a pretty straight shooter. | ||
| And like at the at the end of the day, this is just an upgrade because they listen to Trump. | ||
| I mean, is I mean you're new around here? | ||
| We remember the first term how that went. | ||
| It's like, these people listen to Trump, and then do you really want to go through another nomination process just to get someone that's gonna be just as effective or whatever you think should happen. | ||
| Leatherhead says, Did anyone else see Alex Jones's channel is already deleted in YouTube? | ||
| Indeed, as well as Nick Fuentes's, and then YouTube issued a statement saying, Wait, wait, we said we were gonna unban people, but not yet. | ||
| And so uh what are they winning? | ||
| I think they're actually lying and sent that letter to Jim Jordan just so that he would shut up and he posts it, and they're like, uh Oops. | ||
| All right. | ||
| St. Miles says Trump will have set the precedent to go after Democrats should they ever come into power. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Yeah, that makes a good point. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Fin Zup says the difference is you have money to protect yourself and your family. | ||
| ICE agents don't have that same luxury off the clock, they're on their own, on the clock, their family isn't safe. | ||
| That's a great point. | ||
| How much money do you want in exchange for someone threatening to murder your wife and child and and and hunt you down and flay you alive? | ||
| Uh how much money? | ||
| You you you give me that number, I will give it to you and I will quit right now. | ||
| You let me know, and then we we can have you guys like this is this is this is this is insane. | ||
| The idea that there's any amount of money that anyone would accept to to take these death threats is just I you know what? | ||
| Maybe y'all are right, because it seems to be the general opinion that everybody has. | ||
| The money is worth it to have to live in a box. | ||
| They've been saying this uh stupid argument for years and makes zero sense. | ||
| Max says, Tim, you're wrong, these guys aren't like you. | ||
| They can't afford 24-7 security like you can to protect their family. | ||
| Uh okay. | ||
| My 247 security is myself. | ||
| Let's let's let's try this. | ||
| Uh I will give someone one million dollars, it will make it a game show, and then we have the entirety of the left. | ||
| You'll there will be, you know, I don't know, 3,000 people online in any given day saying they're coming for you to kill you and posting your address, going on shows, lying about you, and your goal is to figure out how to use that. | ||
| Oh, guess what? | ||
| All that money, it's going toward your torture security. | ||
| Your movement is restricted, you can't travel, you can't go to funerals, but it's okay because you know, you have the money, I guess. | ||
| Was the money worth it? | ||
| I'm pretty sure that if you go to the average person and say we're gonna give you a million dollars, but you'll be hunted down and everyone will be trying to kill you. | ||
| They're probably gonna be like, No, I don't I don't know that I want that. | ||
| I don't I don't I don't know. | ||
| Some people might say yes, and then immediately be like the sort of Damacles was too great, and I've I regret my decision. | ||
| But I am seeing a lot of this, and I will make this wager with all of you. | ||
| I will donate all of my money to charity and quit tonight. | ||
| If that's genuinely how everyone feels, because I got to tell you, I am perfectly happy living in a bungalow. | ||
| I say van down by the river, not say a bungalow down by the river. | ||
| I don't need that much money. | ||
| I can pay a couple grand mortgage and I can easily do behind the scenes social media marketing work for, I don't know, 90,000 a year somewhere and be perfectly happy playing online poker or something. | ||
| You shouldn't let the uh chat decide because the chat is full of trolls. | ||
| These aren't people trolling. | ||
| These are these are routine super chatters saying that I should accept that because I have money, I should have to live under the threat of death from the far left on a regular basis. | ||
| When I would much prefer not to have that as a at that risk at all. | ||
| And I'm being told that our own law enforcement who chose to go into direct conflict with terrorists, should be afforded More more protections than I. Or or maybe that's not a fair assessment, but that I should accept the circumstances and the money that comes along with it will pay for the security while I'm restricted from. | ||
| Man, when I when I was working for like when I was working for some of these other companies, like Vice, for instance, and I got to fly, I was on a flight twice a week and 60,000 followers or whatever, getting paid six figures. | ||
| I didn't have anything to worry about. | ||
| I don't think people understand that. | ||
| But Charlie Kirk is dead. | ||
| He died. | ||
| They killed him. | ||
| You know? | ||
| You do it because you love it though, right? | ||
| Like you do it because you feel like you have a sense of duty to speak about things. | ||
| And like you know, from the moment you put your face out there, you you know what the political climate's like. | ||
| You know that somebody's gonna come and target you. | ||
| Uh and that's something that you have to accept, I think. | ||
| I think, like, you know, the money and everything aside, and like the the sort of notoriety, whatever. | ||
| Um, of course, past a certain point, you don't want to exchange your freedom for that and your sort of your your personal safety. | ||
| But I think you knew coming into the game when you first decided to go and speak out, you were gonna go get some backlash. | ||
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Nope. | |
| Right. | ||
| You didn't? | ||
| No. | ||
| I what when I I went fully. | ||
| I didn't I didn't I didn't start this as a partisan. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| I mean initially, but when you did kind of cross the Rubicon, so to speak, because I I remember that when I I used to watch you. | ||
| But but but took that transition, you you must have There was no transition. | ||
| You must have well, like you weren't explicitly like pro-Trump initially, right? | ||
| Correct? | ||
| Like you you you you saw the responses people calling for Trump stuff even prior to his election, you saw the response from the left towards these sort of more conservative pundits, people who were aligned with Trump. | ||
| You knew that they were vicious. | ||
| You you you could you you could have four knowledge of it. | ||
| I went skating at MLK Plaza in Berkeley. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| And Antifed posted my picture on forum saying that I was a Trump supporter. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Whether I was or I wasn't. | ||
| I didn't go online and make videos saying here's what's going on and here's how the news media works, so that Antifa would post my image and threaten to beat me up, and then a bunch of people threaten to attack me until one guy said, Lay off them and don't start fights at the skate park. | ||
| But I mean, just being in the public realm in general, people like will like people someone killed John Lennon, right? | ||
| Like John Lennon, right? | ||
| But maybe it's not the best example because it's political side, but people will try and like kill celebrities for fame and not variety. | ||
| They will like being in the public eye, I suppose it does come with a certain level of calculated risk. | ||
| I I don't think when Charlie Kirk walked out in Oram, he didn't think he was going to die. | ||
| I think he was fully prepared to. | ||
| I mean, like they showed at the memorial he said thy will be done to God, thy will be done. | ||
| It was very religious thing. | ||
| Right, but he he was willing to die for that. | ||
| That's why he remained on college campuses despite having this multi-multi-million dollar organization which was able to that's that's kind of a crazy thought if you think about it. | ||
| Like he was willing to die, and his wife and children were also there as well. | ||
| In this in this area where he has to have security is a great risk to him and his family for what he was willing to do. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that's I wish more people were willing to do that to be clearly honest. | ||
| Well, I mean, it's incredibly hard thing to do, but those are the people who move civilization on. | ||
| Like the founding fathers. | ||
| Everyone has something to lose, right? | ||
| You you have to go across the Rubicon, you have to be a man of action. | ||
| You have to accept that I'm gonna do something that is potentially gonna make my life and the people I love's life very, very difficult. | ||
| But my love for my country, my love for my cause is Far X sees that. | ||
| I think that that's the position that's like the founding fathers. | ||
| Yeah, very soon. | ||
| Who most of them were very young men, actually. | ||
| The average age of founding fathers is 22, something like that. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Oh, no, I signed the declaration. | ||
| Yeah, it was like late 20s, early 30s, but there Ben Frank was a little older, and then there were some younger guys. | ||
| But there were the uh some of the founding fathers, their children were ki captured, their one guy's wife was taken from him, one guy's kid betrayed the family and to serve the crown. | ||
| And uh, you know, there are men in this country who know that they will step into the fray and this will put not only their lives at risk, but their blood, treasure, honor, and family. | ||
| And that's what the founding fathers were were uh willing to do. | ||
| I I wish we had more men like that in this country. | ||
| I think it's it's a very Christian thing. | ||
| It's a very Christian thing of being able to, you're willing to die, and this what is the whole death to the world thing, it's easier said than done. | ||
| But you don't do things that will increase your risk of death. | ||
| Perhaps you do. | ||
| I mean, well, that's what St. Paul did. | ||
| That's what that's what the the apostles did. | ||
| They they they went out of the way. | ||
| Even their families 11 of them died. | ||
| Yeah, put their families at risk. | ||
| They were persecuted. | ||
| I know it's a horrible thing. | ||
| No one, no one you say. | ||
| No one should ever do anything that's gonna put their their wives and child at risk. | ||
| Even if they're law enforcement, they should wear masks. | ||
| Like politics is reserved for them because they don't have any attachments. | ||
| They sort of like Yes, these guys that are in ICE should wear masks and hide so that their families are not put at risk. | ||
| Well, yeah, I mean, the otherwise you're not gonna get people to do the job. | ||
| I mean, Trump is come in on a policy button. | ||
| Someone's not willing to risk their honor, family, or otherwise. | ||
| I'm in the UK. | ||
| I get ads to join ICE every single day. | ||
| I I I I'm I'm not even able to, because I'm I'm not I'm not a resident here. | ||
| But they they clearly don't have enough manpower, right? | ||
| To do this and already drop that manpower. | ||
| And the fact that a lot of the reason that the deportations are aren't going as as high as they hoped is I think it's a manpower issue. | ||
| That's why they're doing such a massive recruitment drive. | ||
| That's why they're doing that 50k signing bonus. | ||
| Trump needs to needs to deliver on his electoral yeah, 50k signing bonus, yeah. | ||
| And I think what's an ad for ice now. | ||
| I think the logic there then that's should be made obvious to everybody is we do not have men of action in this country. | ||
| The people, the reason why we need masks for ice is because these men actually don't want to do the job. | ||
| They do not want to fight for their country. | ||
| They simply want the paycheck. | ||
| And they're unwilling to take any risks to themselves, their family, they just want the money. | ||
| I don't think that's they're trying to mitigate that on that. | ||
| They're they're putting their lives on the line. | ||
| They're going into like drug dens, they're going to why offer them $50,000 to do the like why do you need to offer $50,000 to somebody to come and take this job to do it? | ||
| Economy is terrible. | ||
| They gotta be able to provide for their families. | ||
| Like then but my my point is it's it's pretty dang simple. | ||
| If you're like, listen, I won't do this if there's any risk at all. | ||
| And I want $50,000. | ||
| It sounds like you are not someone who says, for my country. | ||
| Well, they're still taking on a lot of risks. | ||
| The masks are so they can still do their jobs. | ||
| Like, yeah, it would be terrible it's more, it would be just terrible for ICE if their agents kept getting mowed down because they're not masking. | ||
| Like it's like we're trying to get a job done. | ||
| We're trying to get all the illegals out, and masking helps push that goal forward. | ||
| That helps us get closer. | ||
| That must just move the ball down the field. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I'm just pointing out that if someone says, I don't want to do the job, how about 50 grand? | ||
| Sure, I'll do it, but can I wear a mask that no one knows who I am? | ||
| It's like that's not somebody who's like America will stand for eternity. | ||
| Well, I mean, that's the that's protocol. | ||
| I mean, right by right now, like I don't think it's it's it's a choice of the individual to not wear a mask. | ||
| I'm I might be completely wrong, but I imagine that's a different argument. | ||
| I but I imagine I imagine right now it's protocol, but even if you do like 50% of these guys, they are willing to have their face out there, to take those risks, you're still gonna diminish the force which is needed to go and get the job done. | ||
| I'm I'm saying even masks are not, that's still like a very noble thing. | ||
| Like I'm not saying literally every ICE officer hates this country and is doing it for money. | ||
| I'm saying the officers that don't want the job but were offered 50 grand and said, Okay, I'll take it, but let me wear a mask, are the people who are just in it for the job. | ||
| I don't think they're people that that's just what gets them over the edge. | ||
| But I think signing up for ICE, period. | ||
| I'm not even trying to like do a rah-rutchest beating to like dunk on people. | ||
| I'm just saying legitimately joining ICE as as like a decision, it's very noble because it's an inherently dangerous job. | ||
| For the same reason police officers, like I don't think I don't think it's like a terrible thing. | ||
| The NYPD has a little bit better incentives, like makes sense. | ||
| It's a very dangerous city to work in. | ||
| Like you you gotta reward people for like the risk they're taking. | ||
| I mean, I understand, but it's also ICE is like not joining ICE is not great for your lifestyle. | ||
| Like you usually have to move to some pretty nasty communities oftentimes. | ||
| But what I what what is most offensive to me about the general conversation is that you know, I stumbled into this when I started making videos and doing this, I wasn't making money doing it, I was losing money. | ||
| I left ABC Univision and I had savings, and I was losing money to cover these stories to you know, travel to travel to Sweden was a massive loss. | ||
| Then I started making YouTube videos at a massive loss. | ||
| I started getting th threats from antifa on the far left the whole time, losing money. | ||
| And it wasn't until like a year and a half later I finally cracked into the black and I was even and then I started working really hard and and and making more money, and then with that I had to hire more people, eventually bring on you know security, then I had to move, get away from the cities, all of which were ancillary to me just speaking out. | ||
| And then I'm told that and and this happens all the time, how how lucky I am for it. | ||
| When I'm like, I just wanted to fucking live in a van down by the river, dude. | ||
| But so like what why did you do that? | ||
| Why did you change your uproot your whole life? | ||
| Do this in the red? | ||
| What was the rationale towards that like why is it? | ||
| Because I don't care about money. | ||
| I care about country. | ||
| Okay, so you you put the country before the money, but did you not also consider like And other people won't, and I'm told I should have to while other people don't. | ||
| I ask for a few good men to stand up, wave the flag and say, I will die for my country, and then I'm told no, Tim, no Tim, you're wrong. | ||
| Other people shouldn't have to do that. | ||
| No one should take a risk. | ||
| They should do a job and get paid 50 grand to do it. | ||
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And I'm like, okay, I'll I maybe I shouldn't do this. | |
| This is a good thing. | ||
| They're not taking this. | ||
| They're just guys with a very simple job, which is a very good thing. | ||
| I think the risk to them is substantially less in the broad sense. | ||
| In the in the immediacy of the job of ICE, they face tremendous risk that I do not, which I have tremendous respect for, which is why they carry guns, they have armor, protocol, APCs, helicopters, all that good stuff. | ||
| And that isn't that is an incredibly important job, and I'm glad people are doing it. | ||
| If the argument is in the in the greater sense, I should be willing to accept threats and death threats and all that stuff. | ||
| My my simple statement was maybe I shouldn't do this. | ||
| I'll make an AI channel with a V2. | ||
| But I mean, so like these ice guys are still part of that risk is they get doxxed, right? | ||
| Yeah, they're they're wearing masks on the job, but there is still a risk that you know someone speaks to somebody else, he's an ICE officer and his doc still gets out there. | ||
| That risk is still there. | ||
| Wearing the wearing that mask is just risk mitigation. | ||
| The same way that if you you know have security, that's risk mitigation. | ||
| Which is they're completely completely agreeable. | ||
| They're still putting themselves out there. | ||
| Completely agreed, point taken. | ||
| And my point is like me, Benny, Ruben, we should all ice our channels, make new ones. | ||
| That's what you want to do. | ||
| Then okay, let me finish. | ||
| ICER channels, make AI personas masked, no names that can share these messages. | ||
| The message is successful and we'll reach a broader audience, but then no one will know who we are and we'll be safe. | ||
| Well, if that's what you wanted to do, I'm sure you could do that today. | ||
| Charlie Kirk would be alive, right? | ||
| He would. | ||
| Would he have the same impact? | ||
| Would he have reached as many people? | ||
| No. | ||
| No. | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| People buy people buy ideas from people. | ||
| People want to have how want that parasocial relationship of you know going and watching your show, feeling like they know you, yeah, like kind of growing that thought process with you, consuming the news at the same time as you. | ||
| That's uh a human interaction, like AI and faceless content can't replace that. | ||
| These guys have successfully be able to. | ||
| I don't think there is a personality that got into this for the well, I don't think there's a personality on the right that got into this business hoping to form parasocial relationships with people so that people would like them and follow them. | ||
| No, no, no, of course not. | ||
| That's not that's not the intended effect. | ||
| On the left, I think that's basically all that. | ||
| But but I mean, like you see when you were trying to get into the black as you were discussing earlier. | ||
| You will want you obviously needed to work harder. | ||
| What are you working harder consists of? | ||
| I imagine it putting out more content, putting in higher quality content out, and also sort of building your persona as an online figure, putting out more tweets, putting out more content. | ||
| Because that parasocial relationship that you create then leads to success, right? | ||
| Whether you're you're aware of that or not, like that that that is the reality, right? | ||
| People know Tim Poole, right? | ||
| They they they want to hear your opinion on things, they want to they they value you as a you can't. | ||
| I'm not saying like you won't wanted that parasocial relationship from a new participant point of view. | ||
| I am I am no Charlie Kirk, I am no Donald Trump, I am no JD Vance, I don't want to be in charge, I don't want to be a leader, I don't want to run for office. | ||
| I don't want to have an organization backing me with tons of people. | ||
| I just have ideas and I wanted to talk about what I see. | ||
| And largely I wanted to complain about how the media lies to everybody all the time and correct that. | ||
| And that's what I wanted to do. | ||
| And it is getting increasingly dangerous, and I think that may be a principal component why I probably get more death threats than most other people. | ||
| Is that I pull up the sources on every story, we break it down and then explain why this is fake from the mainstream media, with no disrespect to the conservative side, they're largely just proselytizing conservative values, which is very effective and good for their side, and I'm not saying that disrespectfully, but as a threat to the left, it is much less threatening when a man in a suit says, you know, Christ is king, here's why. | ||
| And they say that's not gonna sway any of our people. | ||
| But when I, a an urban liberal from Chicago, say, here's the Wall Street Journal in the Hollywood reporter proving the FCC did not play a role, a principal role, in taking down Jimmy Kimmel and the narrative from the left is fake, they go, he's gonna shit up. | ||
| So kill him. | ||
| And then so, you know, I'm I'm I am wholly jealous of seeing how many people got to go to Charlie's Memorial, and I'm like, I can't. | ||
| I I I don't because the death threats. | ||
| So there was like so many high profile people there. | ||
| Like that's security. | ||
| Yes, some of them had secret service level security were backstage. | ||
| I was not afforded that privilege. | ||
| You could have you could have gone to the floor at least, like there was like security all over there. | ||
| I did I did not have Kal Rittenhouse. | ||
| I did not have I have a security team. | ||
| I have a security team that did an assessment and determined that the threats were legit and too serious for me to go to Phoenix. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Well, there were guys on the floor who didn't have like any Kyle Rittenhouse just walking about on the city. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| What's your security experience? | ||
| Well, I mean I used to work in the security industry. | ||
| You're your former military and intelligence and you've got a team of like I used to I I used to work with a company which did C CPO tests, but there would have been a risk assessment if that's the risk. | ||
| And the risk assessment was that you can't go in, then fair enough. | ||
| You recommend against travel. | ||
| Uh huh. | ||
| Because certainly the event is secure, but we can't secure the city. | ||
| So we can confine you to your hotel. | ||
| That's the smartest and best way to do it. | ||
| And I said, that sounds miserable. | ||
| And they were like, you still have the threat risks from transport to and from. | ||
| We're gonna bring food to your hotel, we're gonna check that for you to be it'll all be and I'm like, this is crazy. | ||
| I don't want I don't want to I don't want to. | ||
| Yeah, but what I'm saying, like that that you would have been able to, but it wouldn't have been a nice like holiday. | ||
| You wouldn't have been able to go out and go go to a bar and go have a drink. | ||
| Like I completely get that. | ||
| But yeah, and it's like 30 grand to do. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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| That that's I can't afford it. | ||
| Which we which is is abhorrent, right? | ||
| That's the reality that we live in in America and in in the West in general now. | ||
| And that's uh it's a very sad thing, but it shouldn't deter you. | ||
| And do you have thirty thousand dollars for me to hire security so I can do shit like that? | ||
| No, but I feel like if you if you have the resources to do it and you feel like it matters. | ||
| Well, that's kind of I mean this is a personal judgment call, I guess, at that point. | ||
| It's not uh when we did uh when we went to Des Moines, we were there with uh Vivek and I think Candace, that cost fifty, sixty thousand dollars in security. | ||
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| We got swatted 15 times, and I think people don't realize this. | ||
| It never stopped. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We just have security now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We've got a security perimeter, we have armed guards, we have other security that I don't discuss. | ||
| Uh we're getting robot dogs. | ||
| I heard that was in the works. | ||
| I'm excited. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, I'm not trying to downplay the threat to your life, but I'm saying that if you kind of let them confine you to your spot, I feel maybe it's just kind of my defiance, and I I I don't have a family in the way that you do. | ||
| Um that they win. | ||
| If you stop going to places, they win. | ||
| They they they're getting what what they want that that threat level that's stopping you from meeting people, being on the ground. | ||
| No, what they want is for him to stop talking. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So yeah. | ||
| Him continuing to do the show is making sure that they don't win. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But uh but uh but at the same time, they don't want you to continue to be out mingling with people where you could could get get further organized. | ||
| There could be other relationships you could I think they want me to, because that's where they can kill me. | ||
| He gets the most off of online through YouTube and rumble discs like that's his furthest reach is I don't think I get the most fence of every obviously Trump isn't it? | ||
| No, no, I'm just saying yeah, more than not. | ||
| On the corner of a street and Charlestown on a soapbox, you get more influence here than you do. | ||
| There's a reason why I mostly just hang out at casinos and people are always like, you know, I know not everybody, but people are like, Oh, Tim's talking about going to the casino. | ||
| Yeah, it's because I don't die there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's because pretty much the only place that I can sit down and mind my own business is a casino. | ||
| Because they all know me. | ||
| They when when you typically when you're uh when you're a uh high profile individual, you walk into any casino, security immediately flags you and they got cameras everywhere. | ||
| So when I go to a casino, I can walk around without security and have to worry about it. | ||
| But when I go out in the street, you you you you you just don't know. | ||
| Well, I mean, the the the incidents that people knew about, we had that year where we were swatted 15 notable times. | ||
| That wasn't the total amount that we actually had to deal with it. | ||
| People think that means cops are kicking our door every time. | ||
| It doesn't, it meant that the cop were doing sweeps basically all the time. | ||
| One credible threat resulted in us evacuating the studio for three hours, and everyone remembered it was chaircast and it was 40,000 people watching an empty room. | ||
| And then at one point you see the little dog walk in and they did the bomb sweep. | ||
| And uh there are locations that we've tried to obfuscate through your your typical legal means, which I won't get into detail on, but owning property through obfuscation to prevent security, and they they found us. | ||
| And we got swatted there, and armed men with rifles came, surrounded the building, and this is like it's an incessant constant thing. | ||
| We've had I think three instances of of uh the bomb squad deploying robots because the the tactics they use. | ||
| Uh there are means by which I shouldn't get into the full details. | ||
| Let me just put it simply that there are ways that these people use that force evacuations and bomb squads, legitimate credible threats. | ||
| And uh we have we had people who are leaking information to anti-foot and far leftists, infiltrators, really really crazy, crazy shit. | ||
| And uh it's it's it's not stopped. | ||
| We just pay more and more money to deal with it. | ||
| Well, I think like going back to what we're saying before is that you know, they want you to stop. | ||
| I think it is kind of making your quality of life so bad that you have to leave the house with your masses about armed security and do all these like risk assessments before going anywhere. | ||
| And then at some point you might go, well, I kind of just want a normal life with my wife and kids. | ||
| You know, like that that that is what it is. | ||
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So it's also like it's it's incredibly difficult. | |
| I don't envy you at all. | ||
| Don't layer lay layer on top of it the stop whining, Tim, you're rich. | ||
| Layer on top of it, you you stop being a little bitch. | ||
| The cost of these things are far higher than the average person anticipates, I think. | ||
| You know, the cost of security. | ||
| And uh I'd much rather rather live in a van down by the river. | ||
| Now I got a wife and a child, and we're, you know, there's gonna be some more coming soon. | ||
| And so uh bungalow, middle of nowhere, uh, some chickens. | ||
| I could do online work and easily uh if if I was doing if I was doing standard marketing stuff, I'd probably make half a million a year working four hours a day. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Um, with my understanding of internet structures and all that stuff, I could easily do consulting work and probably make way more doing something else than this. | ||
| And so the challenge is always, and as it has been, the intense security risk that we face is a tremendous stress. | ||
| And it's not just me, but largely my wife, yeah, of course. | ||
| And and trying to deal with a new baby. | ||
| And so one of the reasons why I'm gonna be 40 and just had my first kid is exactly all the problems that I've discussed. | ||
| And then the the challenging thing in all of this, and let me just be a whiny little bitch because I don't care what people think. | ||
| That's why I unlike many other people, often just literally say exactly what I'm thinking, much to my own detriment. | ||
| But people will make comments, and it doesn't mean all that much to me when people rag on me on the internet. | ||
| I got millions of followers. | ||
| But to point out, the people who who have been constantly chatting things like stop being a little baby, Tim, start having a family, what's wrong with you, all of those kinds of comments, supposedly coming from people who are supposed to be on my side when the when the reason we're strained and struggling to do it is because people are trying to murder me. | ||
| And it's maybe we quit, shut it all down. | ||
| That way we can have a family and live a normal life. | ||
| Or we have to try and figure out how we balance making enough money to cover the cost of security so that we can live somewhere where we're not gonna be murdered, and then it is incredibly difficult to do that. | ||
| And so I I I I've said it before, you know, my wife's attitude is probably just when are you going to quit so we can stop having to worry about dying all the time. | ||
| And uh I don't know. | ||
| I I it's it's like you layer on that there's a tremendous respect for all the people who join the Discord server who are members, who do watch every single day, who buy the products we promote, who are very much into it, and I look at that, and it's not a human thing. | ||
| You know, when when I see coffee sales, I go, wow, did you guys know we did two million in Casper sales last year? | ||
| That's not profit. | ||
| That's total sales. | ||
| Still really good. | ||
| And then I'm like, people really believe in us and care about what we do. | ||
| And that number is it it means a lot. | ||
| But it is just a number. | ||
| It's not it's not an individual saying, you know, we we we respect you and we appreciate what you do. | ||
| I do get those as well. | ||
| Don't get me wrong. | ||
| So largely what we have in terms of encouragement is knowing that when people believe in us, they watch our shows, they buy our products, they're saying keep doing what you're doing, don't give up. | ||
| And that tremendously outweighs the negativity. | ||
| But the negativity is there the stop being a pussy bitch, Tim. | ||
| What do you have to worry about? | ||
| You're rich. | ||
| And coming from like accounts that I know, and you know, insulting me and like not having a kid soon enough, and me trying. | ||
| I would argue that most of the PR advice that I get from people is to pretend fake it and shut up. | ||
| And that's why when you watch any other show, they never talk like I'm talking now. | ||
| Yeah, no one will say this stuff. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And I get it's bad for me, I guess. | ||
| Because what what works business wise in media, there's there's a couple big strategies. | ||
| One, it's be fake. | ||
| Make a plastic persona that exists on camera, and then be completely different off camera. | ||
| Whoever you are on camera is not who you are behind. | ||
| Once you're off, you go, you hide. | ||
| And I'm like, well, I don't know. | ||
| I don't really, I don't really do that. | ||
| The other thing is who you are doesn't matter. | ||
| Say whatever you have, whatever you have to say to get clicks. | ||
| And that's principally the left. | ||
| That's what they do. | ||
| There are a few people on the right who have been going real ham at it lately, especially the tri Charlie Kirk conspiracies, the views they're getting are massive. | ||
| But you know, long story short, I get emotional when people are like, you know, you should experience the death threats and the risk to your family, which is one thousand times greater than the average person, even in law enforcement. | ||
| And I'm like, I respect what law enforcement does tremendously. | ||
| I understand the threats against them, but I just wish more people were willing to be alike, I will not be be threatened in that way. | ||
| But anyway, we're gonna go to the uncensored portion of the show. | ||
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Thanks for hanging out. | |
| Thanks for hanging out. | ||
| Thanks for hanging out. | ||
| We was she fighting with with Anna? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Oh Gillian, Gillian Michaels stormed off of this is this is the PBD women's show, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh gosh. | ||
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Ladies, ladies, wait, is this like it had to be over Israel? | |
| Had to be Israel. | ||
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I I I'm a real class. | |
| I'm I'm ready, just we need we need um I I need a symbol of Timcast IRL. | ||
| What do we have? | ||
| The UF Phil. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| The UFO. | ||
| I'm gonna give it to you. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I I can't. | ||
| I can't with this. | ||
| All of the security stuff was one thing, but this is too much for me. | ||
| I don't want to be a part of this industry. | ||
| Psychological. | ||
| I don't know why. | ||
| I don't know why Anna is taking on it. | ||
| There are conspiracy theorists who think Israel killed Charlie Kirk. | ||
| They have yet to provide a shred of evidence proving that. | ||
| Done. | ||
| And they're not talking about that. | ||
| I am talking about something entirely talking about. | ||
| No, no, hold on. | ||
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Oh, you can't. | |
| Let me finish my f thought. | ||
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Okay. | |
| The real issue here is that before most people even knew that Charlie Kirk was dead. | ||
| You have Netanyahu giving multiple interviews talking about how, oh, using the fing moment for his own political purposes, like the f that isn't let me finish my point. | ||
| I did I not just said that. | ||
| I literally's gonna make a lot of things. | ||
| Let me finish my point, Jillian. | ||
| Because none of us can finish the damn point without someone else jumping down your throat. | ||
| I don't think that Israel killed him because there's no evidence of that. | ||
| But I had a problem with Netanyahu exploiting an assassination in this country for his own political means and purposes and lying about the nature of his relationship with Charlie Kirk. | ||
| Because Charlie Kirk didn't like Netanyahu. | ||
| Just like any warm-blooded American shouldn't. | ||
| Netanyahu is a bad guy. | ||
| And he wanted to make it seem like, no, we were all great. | ||
| We were good. | ||
| We had a great relationship. | ||
| Little did we know behind the scenes, there was a lot of pressure towards Netanyahu. | ||
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I don't know how every show ends up being about how do we bash Israel. | |
| This is not I'm not interested in this. | ||
| Okay, I know that's I'm with Gillian actually. | ||
| Let's be good about precious Israel. | ||
| Like genocide. | ||
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Yes. | |
| Okay. | ||
| Zero. | ||
| I think you guys are going to be fundamentally disagree with you about every show doing this. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
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Cool. | |
| That kind of is how like every normal person feels about like people that are that have strong opinions about Israel. | ||
| But it's like there exist I'm I'm with Jillian actually. | ||
| Like if every single conversation you just bring up Israel, I'm gonna be like, you know, you know, to be fair, I wouldn't quit on the spot. | ||
| I'd be like, uh, you're doing Israel again. | ||
| Okay, uh, let me know when you guys rap, I'm gonna grab a coffee. | ||
| And then I'd get up and walk out. | ||
| And they'd be like, Well, you walked out of business. | ||
| Well, I mean, you know, I we talk about it every single night. | ||
| I don't think you need to hear my thoughts on it again, because I'm just gonna say the same thing. | ||
| I largely don't know, I'm not super interested. | ||
| I'm gonna go grab a coffee. | ||
| We get the same thing here, like people constantly are saying, you know, like how come you're not talking about this? | ||
| How come you're not talking about this with Israel? | ||
| Blah blah blah. | ||
| It's like IRL is a topical show. | ||
| We talk about the news of the day. | ||
| If Israel is not in the news, that's literally why we fucking don't talk about it. | ||
| It's not just that. | ||
| And they they never it's never enough. | ||
| Russia's in the news. | ||
| We didn't talk about Russia. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| Israel, uh there was some news about it. | ||
| It's because we're talking about domestic issues that affect the American people. | ||
| I mean, I think I think the one clip which gets you guys the most flack is the one where you're talking about Epstein. | ||
| You said he's working for the K. That's fake. | ||
| That's a fake clip. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Is it? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| I had no idea. | ||
| And I don't know if there's me thinking about it. | ||
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Well, I'm assuming that's the one where he's what it might look bad on the Saudis, it might look bad on the Qataris or something like that. | |
| Uh the thing of a different one. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| Yeah, that's the one where they're like, oh, Tim's Bolton paid for. | ||
| Because I mean, like, I personally think. | ||
| Oh, no, that's fine. | ||
| I mean, I'm not sure. | ||
| I look up I I look at the Epstein thing and go, yeah, well, he clearly has Maside connections. | ||
| My brain wouldn't jump to the fake clip. | ||
| It's a fake clip because we played a clip. | ||
| Dan Bonjino was on the show, and and he said that um uh Epstein was some kind of Middle Eastern intelligence, and then we all started bustling out laughing, and I was like, oh, Middle Eastern, huh? | ||
| Oh, you it was like uh Yeah, there's a fake there's a fake clip that's shared by the the anti-Jew crowd. | ||
| Yeah, where we're talking about the US liberty, and I said something to Ian, like whether it's a false flag doesn't matter because the instance itself will be utilized by its supporters and denounced by its detractors. | ||
| So and then they they cut it and edit it in a way to where there's like a pause, and we're like you're like you can't talk about it. | ||
| You can't talk about that, and they paused it for like a minute. | ||
| They put a fake pause in. | ||
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Right. | |
| Yeah, okay. | ||
| Uh he Ian brought US Liberty out, oh, be careful about that one. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| And then he was like, something about a false flag, and I was like, right, the problem with false flags is supporters will always believe it, and detractors will always deny it. | ||
| So the issue is it doesn't matter if it's actually a false flag because proving it won't change the minds of those that want to use it. | ||
| I mean, like ideological ends. | ||
| Like I said before, it's a topical show is something from like 50 years ago really gonna begin to change the American mind, or either gonna be relevant in today's politics or something. | ||
| Oh, it's people are constantly spamming the chat with USS Liberty. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yeah, well, I mean I mean it I mean though those It gets a reaction, like that it's wrong and it it it is an important thing that did happen, but I mean like there's enough people who've discussed a hard time. | ||
| That's Pakistan. | ||
| Huh? | ||
| That's Pakistan. | ||
| Well it's Pakistan. | ||
| The comments largely about Israel come from people from places like Pakistan and and you know Qatar. | ||
| Well, I know, I can look at it. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Yeah, so it's not all of them, but we can look at our uh and our analytics and we're like, oh yeah, look at that. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Uh what I think is largely happening is and this is not just my opinion, there have been reports on this. | ||
| One, there's the more conspiracy theory that Qatar is paying people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't think that's true. | ||
| Uh and you know, they they inject me into their conflict when I asked Netanyahu if it had any evidence that was the case, and he sh and he brushed it off. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then I was like, okay, and then some pro-Israel outlet wrote Tim Poole claimed Cutter is funding this, and uh and I was like, no the fuck I didn't. | ||
| I said, we have heard this claim. | ||
| Is there any proof you have that this is actually true? | ||
| And but people don't know what journalism is anymore. | ||
| Like when I asked Elon, now that Antifa's been designated a terrorist organization, will you remove their accounts? | ||
| I had left and right saying, Tim, no, don't advocate. | ||
| And I'm like, I fucking asked a question. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Is he going to take enforcement action now that they're terrorists? | ||
| But people don't understand that distinction anymore. | ||
| So what I think is happening, there's been reporting. | ||
| There are people in India, Pakistan, Malaysia, etc. | ||
| that watch American content on YouTube. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| And if it's anti-Israel, they're going to watch. | ||
| So there have been some personalities who I won't name that everybody keeps talking about how they've generated a large Middle Eastern audience and so they're they're careful about what they say that might be bad because you make a lot of money. | ||
| And then you take a look at the metrics, and there are certain personalities that defy metrics, and you're like, that's interesting. | ||
| The times they post, the views they get. | ||
| Yeah, it's probably because their audience is largely outside of the United States. | ||
| I think that's true of a lot of the comments on X, and that's why we've all like the America first people have been saying Elon should create a country filter so that we're only getting opinions from people in the United States, and then we'll know how many people actually care about Israel. | ||
| But I think the easiest piece of evidence as to how it's not America is that it's pretty fucking weird when like the news is Charlie Kirk's assassination, and then you get spam blasted chats about Israel. | ||
| I mean you're not going to be able to do that. | ||
| And we're like, guys, no one in this country is talking about Israel right now. | ||
| Why are you? | ||
| I mean you've got like the the Nick Fuentes crowd as well. | ||
| I mean, like he can generate hundreds of thousands of people who are like who will who are Americans largely who will also push that. | ||
| So I think I I mean I'm sure the numbers are like inflated between like the Pakistan thing, but like you think Fuentes' audience is all Americans? | ||
| No, no, no, of course not. | ||
| Uh but I mean like even someone like Alex Jones, who's taken a very like anti-Israel stance, took a to a degree as well, Candace Owens, like they they have definitely changed the American right towards actually being like, hang on, Israel is a problem, why are we cow talent to them? | ||
| I think I think there's two things. | ||
| Uh TikTok has has uh largely made Gen Z anti-Israel. | ||
| And uh I I don't I don't care. | ||
| Like, where do you think opinions come from, right? | ||
| It's it's it's the cultural systems and the media that we consume. | ||
| And TikTok, we have the data from October 7th into the end of October that it appeared there was an algorithmic switch which began to promote anti-Israel sentiment. | ||
| Uh following October 7th on TikTok, it was like 80% pro-Israel, 20% anti-Israel. | ||
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Right. | |
| And then within the the span of a like two days, it inverted and increased tenfold on the anti-Israel side. | ||
| You think that was just because the engagement was higher? | ||
| That was an that was indicative of an algorithmic change. | ||
| Do you think the algorithmic change was just like one of pure numbers where they're like people do engage with this stuff? | ||
| Someone at TikTok would have to have pressed a button for those numbers to make sense. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| That that that was the general presumption. | ||
| Otherwise, you like I track all the all the algorithmic stuff on all the platforms. | ||
| We go over the reason why people say unalive is because we can see the direct results in everything we do and how it's impacted. | ||
| On YouTube, you can tell when they change the algorithm is overnight. | ||
| Because any minor change dramatically affects everything about your channel. | ||
| They don't it it it it's never really slow. | ||
| And so the presumption is, and I don't think it's guaranteed fact, but the presumption is based on the switch, it looks like TikTok intervened and said invert it. | ||
| This triggered uh Democrats to join Republicans. | ||
| Republicans initially were like, ban TikTok because it's censoring conservatives. | ||
| Right. | ||
| All of a sudden Democrats got on board. | ||
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Why? | |
| Because TikTok went against Israel. | ||
| TikTok inverted the algorithm, Democrats immediately flip the fuck out, and then you got a bipartisan ban of TikTok, all because they were trying to defend Israel. | ||
| And so what ends up happening with TikTok is Trump ends up saying, no, let it let it stay because there's this uh uh the presumption is there's this Republican billionaire who's an investor in it, and it's like don't don't ban it, let's just change it. | ||
| And so you have young people who have been in this platform that Democrats and Republicans intended to stop because it was anti-Israel, have now been consuming media for two, three years off of this anti-Israel sentiment, and now Gen Z is largely anti-Israel. | ||
| So when I look at Tucker and Candace and I see them like Candace, for instance, is putting out a lot of these videos without directly saying it's Israel, but the general sentiment everyone has is she's implying Israel did it. | ||
| It's because you have Gen Z that is 24% supports Israel. | ||
| So presumably it's like 70 or so that does not. | ||
| And then you have global audience, of which globally Israel's not that popular. | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| So if you are trying to maximize viewership, you're not focused on America. | ||
| You're focused on a general broad audience. | ||
| Well, I think the whole APAC thing as well, though. | ||
| I mean, that is bipartisan. | ||
| Like the APAC has huge amounts of sway over the Democrats and the Republicans. | ||
| And I think people are looking at that, going, well, how does this foreign lobby group, which technically isn't considered a foreign lobby, why is it have so much influence? | ||
| And I think that it then gets perpetuated. | ||
| Because people don't discuss it. | ||
| You think Apex fake? | ||
| No, I think Apex's real, but I think the idea that they're outsized in their influence. | ||
| I think their their influence is commensurate to their funding. | ||
| I think APAC is APAC. | ||
| I think I have no problem with them registering as foreign agents. | ||
| I think that they are sub they they do have a substantial amount of influence. | ||
| But I also don't understand why people bring up APAC, but they don't bring up the China lobby, which is I think 40 times bigger. | ||
| That's the problem I have with it is that people go APAC, and I'm like, before we get to APAC, we've got the China lobby, we've got big pharma lobby. | ||
| Yeah, all kinds of lots of well, well, I'm talking about foreign interests. | ||
| Okay, Roger. | ||
| And I and I have no problem saying nobody should be dual, no one no one in Congress should be allowed to be a dual citizen anywhere, all that stuff. | ||
| Farah registration, all that good stuff. | ||
| But back to the point of this show. | ||
| I agree with Jillian in that, like, dude, shut the fuck. | ||
| Oh my God. | ||
| Like talk about Israel when Israel's in the news, criticize Israel all you want, please. | ||
| I I encourage you to do so. | ||
| I want to hear more about the bad things they're doing. | ||
| And I I appreciate you bringing that up. | ||
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But when it's every fucking day, yeah, it gets tiresome. | |
| Charlie Kirk got assassinated, and the first fucking thing we see from people is Israel dead. | ||
| I'm like, shut the fuck up. | ||
| I don't know if it was the it was the guy they're claiming it was. | ||
| We don't know for sure. | ||
| Maybe it was the shooter in the bush, maybe it was the shooter in the window, maybe it's the guy with the palm pistol, maybe it was the old man in front with the secret gun. | ||
| Maybe it was Bridget McCron in the trapdoor. | ||
| That's what that's what Fuentes said. | ||
| I don't fucking know. | ||
| But I'm with Fuentes on this one. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Can we stop the conspiratard shit? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Anyway, we gotta go to callers. | ||
| Let's start with uh the dictator. | ||
| What is up? | ||
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What's up, Tim? | |
| Hey, thanks for saying my call, guys. | ||
| Hey, doing well. | ||
| How are you? | ||
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Pretty good. | |
| So um I I so first I just wanted to say I agree with everything that Tim has been saying tonight, except for the part about giving up. | ||
| But otherwise, yeah, I agree with everything that you've been saying. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And uh, but while we all are while we are all concerned about the left as terrorism and everything else that's going on right now, uh with the just the left in general. | ||
| Uh I just wanted to come in here and say how um and ask, like, why considering everything we we have seen going on across the country, uh in sorry, in across the the across Europe and the UK, uh when will Americans realize that it's time to wake up and get rid of Islam in this country. | ||
| We're gonna still have that issue to deal with, even if we get rid of the left. | ||
| Uh it I don't know that anyone can put a a clock on that. | ||
| And and as long as there's not a critical mass, um, I don't see that happening. | ||
| Yeah, I don't think like Islam's like an existential threat to the US. | ||
| I mean, it could be one day, but um, it's like two less than two percent of the population, it's really concentrated in like four cities. | ||
| Um I agree it's a problem. | ||
| Like, I don't want I don't want to live in an Islamic country. | ||
| Like I think Islam's a pretty, you know, uh degenerate uh religion, broadly speaking. | ||
| I mean, their countries are proof. | ||
| But uh yeah, I don't think they're like really anything like I think uh the Republican Party specifically uses it as a carrot on a stick to like scare people. | ||
| And I'm just like it's not really existential in the US unless you live in Dearborn, which it is a problem there. | ||
| Um and you can mop it up pretty quickly. | ||
| Like I don't think I think the left is a much bigger issue. | ||
| Or Texas, it's not that you have huge states real quick, they have huge uh things, big the biggest mock mosque and stuff, and they've been building cities in Texas. | ||
| Yeah, but it might not be an existential threat, bro. | ||
| But LG gays weren't until they are. | ||
| Well, no, it well, Islam is the existential threats. | ||
| The immigrant third world immigration would be the threat there, because it's equally as big of a problem, they build these big monkey statues, and that's like a Hindu thing or something. | ||
| So it's like Islam, Islam is just like a f of like a factor of the bigger problem, which is like unchecked migration from the third world, like destroying. | ||
| I think the difference between she mentioned the UK there as well. | ||
| The UK has a massive integration problem. | ||
| I know American Muslims, and they're actually very well integrated in comparison to the UK, where they just choose not to. | ||
| There's a the Muslims in the UK certainly do integrate, but there's a there's a massive problem with the fact that they they don't and they sort of take over these areas similar to my what what you might be seeing in in in Dearborn. | ||
| Um you're a much larger country, you're not bringing in mass Islamic migration on the same level as we are. | ||
| You're also not propping up the sort of social services to facilitate it either. | ||
| Yes, we are. | ||
| Um yeah, on the same scale as you can. | ||
| We're given all kind of illegal immigrants and money they want. | ||
| I'm not I'm not so so well versed, but I mean UK is like next level. | ||
| They give prime real estate in London. | ||
| The problem is is that like the Islamic the values of an Islamic civilization. | ||
| If you're if you're a real Muslim, you're a real Sunni Muslim, Shia Muslim, you believe in uh in in the Sharia, you have to. | ||
| Like if not, then you're you just be an intellectually dishonest. | ||
| Uh and that religious law will trump any secular law that has that that you that isn't in the country that you move to. | ||
| It is a intellectually dishonest position to argue otherwise. | ||
| You can speak to any you know well versed Muslim scholar. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| They they they believe in in that religious law. | ||
| But that will never ever be compatible with the laws of America unless they they change it you'd have to completely repeal the constitution. | ||
| In the UK we don't have a constitution on the same level so we're seeing it take more of a hold because you know if you're if you're thinking as an Islamic community you think right we want to gain political power America wouldn't be the nation that you would do it in because you have the constitution. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Look at somewhere like the UK where all you've got to do is get a majority in parliament you can pretty much do most things without but by the king intervening which the king definitely isn't going to intervene he seems very sympathetic. | ||
| There is a huge amount of of differing values and you know in Europe where we're seeing that on the political stage and even when they've kind of made this Islamic leftist alliance it's falling apart now in the UK because like other stuff like trans rights and uh you know the the the status of women uh and the these sort of social issues so it's it's very thin end of the wedge but you know as a Brit coming here like the last thing on my mind is oh is is is Islamic immigration like some some threat here to me it's it's it's it's a non fact you've got much bigger fish to throw to fry. | ||
| But I mean but it is worthwhile keeping in the back of your head going okay well if you bring in let's say there's some deal over Gaza where they're saying you know the US is going to bring in I don't know let's say half a million people from Gaza that is going to radically change the US but also change their strain of of Islam too. | ||
| You know when these people get into the mosque these more radical ideas come and these people who were were integrated can actually end up radicalized which we see we saw in the UK when we had the the the refugees from Syria coming in they were coming into into into Mosum masjards where they were otherwise fairly well integrated and these radicalized ideas began to disseminate so you you you do have to be careful you definitely gotta be aware of it. | ||
| I mean obviously this country that suffered again nine eleven right you've got that's always going to be in in your sort of uh cultural psyche but Israel did that so I don't know oh did it okay right Bush did it who did it yeah does that answer your question I mean I I didn't think people would agree with me too much on that but uh I just want to remind everyone Islam is a problem. | ||
| um and while i yeah i fully disagree i know that we have bigger fish to fry um at the moment but eventually we got to deal with uh the issue of the people we cause do you think that that tate has a point though if you take care of immigration more broadly the issue of islam kind of is taken care of when you take care of immigration or do you think that there's already enough people here that ascribe to the religion where they | ||
| will evade eventually outbreed American you know you know Christians or or or agnostics or what have you no I don't think that illegal immigration or you know getting rid of all people from legal immigration will uh fix the the threat of Islam in America. | ||
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A lot of the people that are in Michigan are likely here – Michigan and Minnesota are likely here legally, and yeah, they will outbreed us. | |
| Legal immigration is a problem. | ||
| Yeah, I was saying immigration broadly, like legal immigration. | ||
| This is why legal immigration is much more of a threat to a large degree than illegal immigration is because legal immigrants stay. | ||
| And so if they come and they're Muslim – because I totally agree with you that it's a threat to the way of life of the United States. | ||
| They can stay and illegally you can get. | ||
| can get out like pretty easily with the whip of a judge's pen. | ||
| But in a illegal immigrant that's a much that's a much more rigid process you're gonna get a little mean. | ||
| So I mean it's something in America where like you've always had a historically very good integration process but people still hold on like you know look at the Italian American community they still hold their cultural values there. | ||
| So I think that you know no matter who's going to come in you can't expect them to ever fully integrate the way that someone who came on the Mayflower is you've got different cultures within the American culture. | ||
| You've got got different subcultures and Islam being a religion you're always going to have that risk of even if they do kind of integrate they they don't sort of fully follow the Sharia it's always going to be there in the in the back of the in the back of the mind and then in the same way that you can have some fairly uh unradical Christian groups who you know over time you'll see them become more fervent and kind of come back to the faith and actually begin living out their their moral values it's always there it's sort of a latent thing. | ||
| Uh just with uh I did enjoy the one time where the free Palestine um rally parade they got and uh they butted heads with the LGG LGBT people and they're all yeah, arguing and yelling at each other. | ||
| Yeah, they can't even integrate into the left, let alone America. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, thank God they didn't uh bump into each other on our rooftop. | |
| True. | ||
| Very true. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I mean, like the they do move as a monolithic force, right? | ||
| There is the idea of the ummah, the international Islamic community, which is why you have this response to Gaza. | ||
| Um it is it is a lobby in and of itself. | ||
| Whether it's a social lobby, I mean also I do have a lot large amount of financial backing as well. | ||
| Um, it will always be a fifth column in your society. | ||
| That you can't integrate an Islamic community into a Christian society. | ||
| Something's gotta give. | ||
| Yeah, you know. | ||
| Um what war one is is is is living under the other. | ||
| Like the de facto, it's always been like that throughout history. | ||
| And so same with sort of any religious group. | ||
| Uh, even in the UK, like the Catholics and the Protestants couldn't agree enough that one was living under under the other. | ||
| Uh you take someone like Islam, they're so radically different from different denominations of Christianity. | ||
| It's not not gonna work. | ||
| Like you're not gonna have a truly integrated population there. | ||
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Good point. | |
| What about it? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So you uh you want to add anything or you uh want to shout anything out? | ||
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Yeah, I I could add that stuff on there, but I don't want to take the show on my show. | |
| So uh I just wanted to say uh quickly, Islam is that the issue and you know, Protestants is that uh Protestants are to uh Catholicism what a not what a peaceful Muslim is to Islam. | ||
| As a Catholic, I would agree. | ||
| And to that, I would just like to say uh follow me on X. I am the dictator X is uh on X and uh otherwise I got nothing else and chunking right now, so I'll talk to you guys later. | ||
| Thanks for calling in cheers, man. | ||
| So I just want to uh uh quickly apologize for being on my phone just there. | ||
| Uh not only did I receive a a very important and good text, which I have to it's important work stuff. | ||
| People would be happy if we can figure figure this one out. | ||
| I'd also want to add um we were trying to get this really big show for tomorrow, and we couldn't make it happen. | ||
| And so I'm uh just trying to make sure I have the details because we had requested that Elijah Schaefer, Myron Gaines, and Nick Fuentes come on the show. | ||
| Holy moly. | ||
| And Nick, I guess said no. | ||
| And uh Elijah was like, Well, I'll go if if Nick goes. | ||
| And then my understanding is that uh they're not gonna make it. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So that's I just because we're winning to the last minute. | ||
| My general understanding is he's he's he's not gonna make it. | ||
| It is unfortunate. | ||
| But uh tomorrow morning we're discussing the Charlie Kirk conspiracy theories, and we wanted to have uh Elijah Myron and Nick Fuentes for their views. | ||
| Would have been a good one. | ||
| Aren't they all one-sided views? | ||
| Oh, Nick is Nick is against the conspiracies. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And and and and the reason why I thought it'd be very interesting is because there's the Israel did its side, and then there's Nick Fuentes saying Israel did not do it, which is a very interesting take considering his position on Israel. | ||
| And uh, I guess he didn't want to do it. | ||
| I mean, he has been traveling around a fair bit. | ||
| He was on Russell Brand, and then I think he was over. | ||
| Yeah, he was interpreted the other day. | ||
| Yeah, no. | ||
| Oh, isn't they just oh, is me no favors. | ||
| It would have been a good one. | ||
| This wasn't the first time too that the people in chat would have uh got what they wanted. | ||
| All right, let's uh bring in uh Olivia Dasovek. | ||
| Oh, what's up? | ||
| Friendly fire. | ||
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Thank you guys. | |
| Hello. | ||
| Um is it? | ||
| Is he asleep so that way you're calling in to talk smack about him? | ||
| Is that what it is? | ||
| Because I'm gonna tell him. | ||
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Yeah, even though he's right next to me, I am about to talk mad shit about him. | |
| Um my questions for everybody. | ||
| Um, so a lot of the recent violence we've seen from young people were clearly radicalized before they were 18 on social media platforms. | ||
| If we can't implement a law because I think there's been a lot of attempts to do so. | ||
| What should parents be doing to know more about their children's behavior online? | ||
| Um and how can we prevent our kids, you know, from going down that path as well. | ||
| Don't live on phones. | ||
| Don't let them have phones. | ||
| And and if they do have phones, spyware. | ||
| A lot of spyware. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| Monitor what they're doing. | ||
| Don't let them have a phone that's private. | ||
| Uh Like if you're 16, you don't get a private phone. | ||
| I don't care what anyone says. | ||
| Every night that camera auto-focuses on Charlie and Vosh and blurs out Phil's face. | ||
| There's nothing wrong with uh with that. | ||
| My uh it softens my my crow's feet is what it's as a as a uh parent of 14 children. | ||
| My advice would be 14 children, yes. | ||
| Um, believe it or not, um, would definitely be I got nothing, but don't give them phones, you know, monitor the foot, don't let them on the internet. | ||
| At least I mean internet, yes, but phones is tough. | ||
| I mean, I don't know what you're gonna do when but by the time you have babies, uh there might be what what the 15 years down the road. | ||
| So it might be it might be you might be having brain chips by then, so good luck. | ||
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Thanks, Raymond. | |
| You're always such a cheery dude. | ||
| I mean, it's the future's real. | ||
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Sorry. | |
| I mean, look, yeah, the like remember the parents are the parents, right? | ||
| So there's gonna be things where the state can step in if you're abusing your child, but like not giving not allowing your child to have a private cell phone that or or phone that connects to the internet that they can do whatever on. | ||
| There is there is nothing that the government's gonna do about that, right? | ||
| Like you are the parent. | ||
| You are you will be providing all of the things for that child. | ||
| Like back in the day, I don't know if this is still something that's normal or not, but like if I like my parents were like, don't close the door in your route to your room, and I didn't get to close the door, whether I liked it or not. | ||
| Yeah, there was no privacy. | ||
| My dad could walk into the room whenever he felt like it because it was his house. | ||
| And the room that I was in wasn't my room, it was his room that I got to keep my stuff in. | ||
| And this idea that children get to tell parents, this is my room, I have privacy, I need that. | ||
| You don't have shit. | ||
| When you're 18 years old, you can move the fuck out, then you can pay for all of your fucking shit, and then you can have privacy. | ||
| But if you're living under my roof and I'm paying for all of your stuff, you can take that privacy shit and shove it up your ass because it ain't happening. | ||
| And so you should know what your kids are doing. | ||
| You should know what they're talking who they're talking to. | ||
| They shouldn't have anything on their phone that's locked up. | ||
| You should know what apps they're using. | ||
| You should know their passwords for all of their social media accounts. | ||
| If they have them, I don't think they should have them until they're at least 16. | ||
| No computer, no phone, no internet, you know. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, uh I do think that like there might be an argument when they're like 16. | ||
| If they get a job, they can buy their own phone or whatever. | ||
| Then, you know, but like until then, they get to use the computer in they get to if they if they're gonna use a computer, they get to use the computer. | ||
| That's the family computer that's in the den or in the in the living internet at all. | ||
| None. | ||
| Really? | ||
| And this is for all the people who who chat in and say you're having babies. | ||
| Listen to this advice. | ||
| Nothing for anyone. | ||
| Your baby's gonna computer, computer in the uh I I would say they can have they can have a computer at a certain age with no internet, and uh, you know, I make sure it's got no internet because I know how to do that. | ||
| Do you not feel like that's like handicapping your child? | ||
| So I mean I'm perhaps one of the few on the panel who completely grew up with the internet from being like young. | ||
| Uh like phone, like everything. | ||
| I'm 22. | ||
| What kid is better off because they have access to the internet. | ||
| Well, I mean, like I would not smarter, they're not getting better test scores. | ||
| Actually, stupider. | ||
| Yeah, it's a so I so I'll I'll play devil's objects. | ||
| I'll back them up with it. | ||
| So I think I always go I think it's about what values and what sort of work ethic and how you kind of teach your kid to use the internet. | ||
| I think you're gonna handicap your child, they're not gonna be in touch with the cultural site. | ||
| Guys, you might say, well, that's that's a good thing. | ||
| That's a good thing, right? | ||
| That's one possible. | ||
| However, that's the con. | ||
| However, the they're not gonna be able to be able to socialize and speak and understand people as well. | ||
| You have to know the opposing argument. | ||
| The second thing is I spent all my time just like reading, watching videos. | ||
| I actually was able to set up my own business just through being able to be online when I was like 14, just started running Facebook ads, right? | ||
| That was something I did off my own phone. | ||
| When did you when did you first get the internet? | ||
| Uh like the age eight. | ||
| What? | ||
| Age eight. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And you had no restrictions? | ||
| No. | ||
| I would I would I would call that lucky. | ||
| What we've seen from the data is that it uh phone use actually inhibits and and retards kids. | ||
| It makes them pretty retarded. | ||
| But I think I mean, but you're not. | ||
| But the average, so my kid's not getting any of this shit. | ||
| Uh I had a computer when I was a kid. | ||
| I had internet, but internet back then was very, very different. | ||
| I didn't my parents didn't have to worry about snuff films and midget porn. | ||
| Back then it was like you'd go on AOL and you'd click a box and it would give you like nine options for like areas of AUL. | ||
| So I would go to the freeware section and look up the various video games and download them. | ||
| Or maybe I'd go to like audiofile.com where they'd be like the MP3s that are available today, and there would be like six MP3s, and it's like I never heard of those fucking songs. | ||
| I'll download one anyway. | ||
| And then you click it, and it'll be like 14 hours to finish the download. | ||
| That was the internet when I was a kid. | ||
| So I got I built my first computer when I was I think eight years old. | ||
| I I got Windows 3.1. | ||
| My family had internet back when it was on DOS with CompuServe. | ||
| Yeah, and you had to type everything in. | ||
| And then I remember we got DOS shell and you could press up and down, and then we had a mouse, and you could move the mouse cursor around. | ||
| I was like, this is crazy. | ||
| I remember playing that fucking mind game from Apogee where you're a little guy in outer space trying to collect all the dumb little minds and Commander Keen. | ||
| Nowadays the internet is pedophiles trying to get your kids on Roblox to say weird ass creepy shit to them. | ||
| And the the problem I would argue with the internet is it's basically right now, like telling your dropping your kid off in downtown and being like, good luck, and then walking away. | ||
| I mean, like you I'm not saying you shouldn't monitor your kids' internet access, right? | ||
| You you you certainly should, and there's various different apps and different softwares which will have like hard blocks that you can. | ||
| Even Wikipedia is a bunch of weird gay commie books. | ||
| Well, I mean, like I thought I was gonna bring the I used to do so we had a school computer, like there was like an after school company your parents work till six and they pick you up after. | ||
| All they had on that school computer was like games, and the only other uncensored thing was Wikipedia. | ||
| So like the Wikipedia was far more interesting to me than the games. | ||
| Yeah, Wikipedia's commie gay books. | ||
| I never turned out like commy and gay. | ||
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Like I just read things what they are, and because everybody knows a tall Asian. | |
| I do understand. | ||
| Actually, is a lot of them. | ||
| I do want to like back up his point with something that like a lot of people miss like the reason why Zoomers are so right wing is because of internet access. | ||
| It's because we grew up on the internet, and the proof for this is why millennials are like. | ||
| Zoomers are not right when Zoomer guys are. | ||
| Yeah, but we're the ones that are gonna be actually impossible. | ||
| Maybe it's like 36% of Zoomers are right wing. | ||
| Among men, it's it's it's much higher. | ||
| Like in the United States, but but so the reason for tricky. | ||
| The reason why it's like 36% is because uh more than half of men are are right, more than half of Gen Z men are right wing, and almost all of the women are left wing. | ||
| Yeah, but I think the internet is the reason why they're left wing. | ||
| And if they were the women that weren't online, they won't be fucking retarded. | ||
| Well, women, well, that's just how women are. | ||
| Men will impose their will. | ||
| The the women like tend to what I see is that they're not as politically involved as you think. | ||
| It's more it's it's more of a group thing, right? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| The moment like I've had it myself in relationships where like a a woman, she doesn't agree with your politics, but she likes you, she knows she has a good good thing going with you. | ||
| Her politics would just move towards whatever yours is. | ||
| Of course, it's it's is to whatever is in her best interest, right? | ||
| That's generally how most people women, women operate politically based on their social circle. | ||
| Yeah, so when women go online, they see what other women do and they adhere to that political worldview. | ||
| Yeah, men don't. | ||
| If you balance that out with a healthy social life, right, where they're they're in the real world, the internet becomes secondary. | ||
| That's not what's happening. | ||
| What's happening is these girls are taking like the girls are taking the internet culture and bringing it to the real life, and then girls are getting bullied and it's causing a bunch of problems, and 14-year-olds are getting breast implants. | ||
| Dude, if you guys only lived without the internet in your life one time, you would understand where we're coming from. | ||
| Yeah, but yeah, I'm not gonna listen to a dude who sings the hot dog song, bro. | ||
| But the thing the thing is, like, but uh the thing is I'm looking at older, older generations and they like fumbled. | ||
| So it's like I'm sitting here as a zoomer and I'm like, okay, well, we're moving in the right direction. | ||
| I'm looking at like the so-called, like we grew up like what arts and everything, but it's like you're not base. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| Like everything you inherited just got worse. | ||
| It's like base is like my great grandfather who didn't grow up with any technology. | ||
| That's base. | ||
| He fought in World War II, that sort of thing. | ||
| But it's like I don't think growing up with the I think it's been I think it's been worse from a political zeitgeist perspective. | ||
| It's like everything's just gotten worse until Zoomers is like, okay, now there's an escape patch. | ||
| We can pull this lever. | ||
| Claim and Gen Alpha's even more. | ||
| Come on, Gen Alpha is even more right wing than Gen Z. And I've I've seen it myself. | ||
| Like when I've looked in some of these comment sections, I'm like, that kid's like fucking 12. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| I'm like, and he's like coming out like the most base shit. | ||
| Like stuff that's actually like very well articulated too. | ||
| I'm like, wow, like because it does allow people access to the knowledge which would be which people previously be gatekeeped behind institutions or you know, old enough yet. | ||
| We're not going to discuss this yet. | ||
| So what it develops very well-rounded individuals. | ||
| What percentage of those kids though are addicted to like midget furry queer shit? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't think it's I don't think it's as big as you think. | ||
| I think it's like isolated. | ||
| A lot of these kids are pretty like still pretty normal. | ||
| I think there's like there's an incentive to like doom over young generations. | ||
| That's like been the case. | ||
| And I'm not denying that, yeah, there is like weird, like furry tranny, whatever. | ||
| But um, like uh we interact with them like kids that grow up in like normal environments, they're turning out fairly normal. | ||
| It's the people that have something external that knocks them off course while they're a child. | ||
| The internet really rips them apart. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Okay, no anime though. | ||
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| Well, I think animation is banned. | ||
| Never have fun, but no anime. | ||
| Anime is demonic. | ||
| It's like no attack on Titans. | ||
| Yeah, no, you can't have it. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Anime should be prosecuted. | ||
| Investment. | ||
| No, I actually I actually um I'm I'm a big anime fan, actually, but I actually hate American cartoons more. | ||
| Yes, like Ed and Eddie. | ||
| Oh, that's my favorite. | ||
| At Ed and Eddie should have been issue if I was dictator, I'd ban Ed Ed and Eddie. | ||
| That's why I am the way I am. | ||
| Any loony tunes show any loony tunes made before 1945. | ||
| What about Animaniacs? | ||
| Any loony tunes made before 1945 are great. | ||
| Ed Ed and Eddie was a show about three losers that everybody hated that failed every step of the way. | ||
| And the reason why I hated American cartoons was that it was always about failures. | ||
| And the reason why I liked anime was that you always had to fight to get ahead. | ||
| So like Goku, no matter how hard it got, he would always struggle and figure it out and try and get stronger. | ||
| It's always a hair, too. | ||
| Naruto was always really great because Nairo Toe was a loser, outcast, orphan, and he became president basically, and he got stronger and stronger. | ||
| Oh, that was like 15 years ago. | ||
| I know, I I stopped. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| Yeah, aliens came, and then they went to another dimension, and who knows what the fuck's going on. | ||
| Well, I mean, like I think what's interesting about those cartoons where they're all they're unremarkable, they're kind of failures, but they still kind of end up in these remarkable situations, and like Ed and Eddie? | ||
| Yeah, and like a lot of these should like regular show and otherwise kind of like oh god, fuck like you're I like it. | ||
| It was always good. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I never thought it was like complete shit lib or something. | ||
| The main characters are detestable, arrogant shitheads. | ||
| Like Yeah, but you you're aware of that as a kid. | ||
| Like you don't think uh that's I'm gonna model my life off of these kinds of things. | ||
| I I don't think so. | ||
| I don't I don't think so. | ||
| I like I like Justice League, Spider Man, I like Dragon Ball Z. So like for me, anime was because we had Dragon Ball Z on Telemundo. | ||
| So, you know, the only way to watch it was in Spanish. | ||
| So like when Vegeta was killing Napa and Napa's like, Borky Vegeta! | ||
| I was like, I get this. | ||
| Uh but you couldn't watch it. | ||
| And then I brought the car to network, but you had that cable and I didn't. | ||
| And uh so I didn't watch a lot of anime growing up, but a lot of it is real fucking weird. | ||
| Real weird. | ||
| I mean, uh when I went to Japan, like we had different flavors of masturbation stores in Japan. | ||
| We don't want none of that. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| But but I mean they goon gallery. | ||
| It is it it is like segmented in Japan. | ||
| Like you have these areas that are complete degenerate degenerate cesspits, and then you've got these other kind of like pseudo-utopian reality in this other area is like they do kind of corn it off, which is better than here where like you'll have like some sort of country club, then down the road you'll have some like weird sort of anime show up, like witchcraft stop, like things are just kind of like it's it's everywhere. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Um I've seen uh uh uh interviews on the street for women asking them if it's okay if they're men cheat with them if it's with like a prostitute, and they're like, yeah, it's fine. | ||
| Okay, the whole cold. | ||
| We definitely gotta get the rest of the cars, but I just want to add one thing, and I think um American cartoons is like giving your child acid. | ||
| And I really mean it. | ||
| And anime is it's almost like giving them acid, but let me clarify. | ||
| I don't mean all Cartoon Network was really bad, Justice League was really good, Static Shock was really good. | ||
| I like those shows, Batman Beyond was a little weird because it was in the future, but still good. | ||
| Uh the Batman Animated Series, really, really good. | ||
| These were cartoons that had weird superhero shit and weird stuff, but the characters were adults talking to adults, ex and and talking about perseverance, honor, justice, integrity, Spider-Man was really good. | ||
| And I look at some anime, and they have a lot of those things like uh Nairo To I thought was good in terms of that messaging, and what messages do I want my kid to pick up? | ||
| Honor, integrity, perseverance. | ||
| Then you look at like Rocco's modern life, drug trip, meaningless psychotic garbage. | ||
| You look at cow and chicken, fucking awesome. | ||
| I love cow and chicken, but what the fuck? | ||
| That's like that show is for 20 year olds on drugs, not for children. | ||
| True. | ||
| And the same thing is true for Animaniacs and all of these fucking shows. | ||
| But uh, Olivia, did you want to add anything or shout anything out? | ||
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Um I will take this opportunity to shout out um my husband's show, Pop Culture Crisis. | |
| You guys can find them um Monday through Friday. | ||
| You guys know that Joe Mary's not there tonight, so I figured I'd take the uh opportunity and you can follow me at Olivia Jasovic on all platforms. | ||
| 3 p.m. | ||
| You start. | ||
| 3 p.m. Eastern taking it. | ||
| Thanks for coming. | ||
| Right on, thanks for coming in. | ||
| It was a good conversation starter. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Next up, we've got portential. | ||
| What's up? | ||
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Uh, thanks for taking my question. | |
| Today Trump labeled Soros and Reed Hoffman as likely being paymasters behind organized terrorist groups. | ||
| What is the likelihood of this going through and charges being pressed? | ||
| Or it turns out these groups are running CIA apps, so nothing comes of it. | ||
| I would say that we're likely gonna see indictments. | ||
| I don't think Trump's playing around. | ||
| I think the indictment of Comey shows us it's happening. | ||
| The the dam will break, and Bannon was saying end of summer you'll see arrests. | ||
| So it's just a little bit after summer and Comey indictment happened. | ||
| I think Trump's gonna put his foot on the gas. | ||
| And uh I think the reason why it's taken as long as it is, as I've explained the past couple of days is he's trying to massage the culture, not drop a tsunami on the culture. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| If he comes out and says arrest soros now, they're gonna be like, dude, this is crazy. | ||
| You get a few arrests under the belt, you get a few indictments, you get if you get more evidence, get it in the news. | ||
| He says it now, let it percolate in the news for a few months, let the cultural commentators bubble up the stories, create this wave, this zeitgeist, then when you make the arrest, everybody expects it. | ||
| Oh, do you think that um with him um talking about it so much the left it doesn't really matter what um he says and how much he brings it out slowly but surely the left, the democrats are still no matter what, even if it doesn't matter. | ||
| The point is regular people can't be shocked. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| If Trump announced right now he's arresting Soros, there's gonna be some like Supreme Mama like, what is going on? | ||
| Who's that? | ||
| Yeah, then the left comes out and says it's just an old man. | ||
| Why is Trump doing this? | ||
| Let the commentary flow through the culture for three months, then on every TV, you're gonna hear the debate. | ||
| George source this, George source that people start to form opinions. | ||
| Then you're gonna get a 50-50 split, and some people are gonna be like, I don't know, I heard about that guy. | ||
| I think he should go to jail. | ||
| Then Trump does it, and it's a 50-50 split. | ||
| Okay, gotcha. | ||
| Uh I don't know. | ||
| I I'm kind of like the nothing ever happens, chur, the fell for it again award. | ||
| I just don't think Trump's got the the balls to do it. | ||
| Comey's been indicted. | ||
| He's no, I'm talking about this for Soros. | ||
| So so someone like Soros who's got uh no, but you said nothing ever happens, but like literally so much shit has happened in the past month, it's crazy. | ||
| I don't think I yeah, but I don't think it's seismic in the sense that it's gonna fundamentally change American politics. | ||
| Like I like I was I was mentioning before. | ||
| This is gonna be another what could. | ||
| I think you have to really crack down on all of the fundamentally all of these funders have to be cracked down upon. | ||
| The media has to be held to a new state. | ||
| Whether they're not allowed to to say these sort of dehumanizing to Kirk's assassination. | ||
| Are you saying that Trump needs to announce an indictment on all of them at once? | ||
| I think now that would be a big show of strength, yeah. | ||
| But that's not possible. | ||
| Well, I mean, not possible initially, but like I'm getting he's gonna ramp up to it like that that's the thing, but it's like just kind of wait it's gonna happen, wait it's gonna happen. | ||
| There's a finite amount of attorneys. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| They have to generate uh they have to pull together evidence for probable cause hearings. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| Then they have to convene a grand jury. | ||
| There's limited court space. | ||
| Trump can't just be like, here's 15 indictments of prominent Democrats right away. | ||
| Not only not only can you not actually legally do it, because there's no mechanism for it, but everybody would say no to Trump if he tried that. | ||
| Even if Trump literally had the indictments, they'd be like, Are you nuts? | ||
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No. | |
| And Joseph, you're calling for him the Trump to go after the sources. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And he's he's already talking about going after Soros and Hoffman. | ||
| And designating anti-faterrorist organizations and then three days later saying we will now dismantle the entirety of the leftist. | ||
| Yeah, but I mean, I feel like like, you know, last week when the the Wals this big momentum and it was like the nation will still in Shock over the assassination. | ||
| You could have come out with it straight away and it would have had a much kind of stronger cultural impact and it would have been like, well, we've just taken this man's life and we've celebrated it, cause and effect, right? | ||
| Like for him to hit hit back hard. | ||
| He didn't hit the 15 days. | ||
| 15 days a long time in politics, right? | ||
| Like I mean like look at how quickly things move. | ||
| 15 days is a long time. | ||
| I can't take the nothing other ever happens argument because literally this this past month has been like this country is forever changed. | ||
| I don't think it is it's forever changed from the top down though. | ||
| I don't think Trump has has fundamentally changed any of the nation to prevent these sort of people who are not going to be able to do that. | ||
| They're talking about making a Charlie Kirk silver dollar. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like the nature of this country has changed. | ||
| Liberals are posting in defense of Charlie Kirk. | ||
| Now don't get me wrong. | ||
| Yeah, but it's form form not function, right? | ||
| Like, what do you mean? | ||
| Trump declared uh uh uh uh anti-fat terrorist organization and indicted James Comey in the in the span of like three days. | ||
| Yeah, but we'll have to see I'll have to see how it develops, but I just don't think it's gonna be some. | ||
| You got internet brain, bro. | ||
| Perhaps, perhaps. | ||
| So like when you when you when you when when it's not just internet brain, but I I make this point quite a bit. | ||
| When you read history books, history is condensed. | ||
| And this has caused a kind of and and for lack of a better word, I don't mean this derisively, a delusion where people look at what is happening around them and think nothing ever happens because you read a history book and it's like Hitler rounded up the Jews, then he invaded Poland, then he invaded the, you know. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| But it's like actually that was f like the American American Revolution was 20 years. | ||
| I'm I'm talking in terms of like political momentum, right? | ||
| Like there's not that many people today go on X on the timeline, not that many people talk about Charlie Kirk being killed, right? | ||
| Like it it does just because people ask him Internet brand like this. | ||
| Wait, wait, wait, wait. | ||
| You said people aren't talking about Charlie Kirk being killed? | ||
| Like it's it's not all all over the timeline like it was last week. | ||
| Yeah, it still is for me. | ||
| I see a lot of it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Still my YouTube feed and and my X timeline is literally like still every third post is Charlie Kirk. | ||
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Really? | |
| Okay. | ||
| I mean the Jimmy Kimmel thing. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I mean it's so like that. | ||
| But the investors are now suing Jimmy Kimmel, so that the Charlie Kirk is in every article. | ||
| I mean, I feel like the outreach energy really kind of came to a like that could have been harnessed a lot better. | ||
| Like the he could have used that push for hard hard policy making and be like, yeah, well, this is why, while while it was still in the public psyche. | ||
| I I get the it's not in as strong of a position as it was last week. | ||
| People it was much more on the minds of people last week. | ||
| I think we can agree on that. | ||
| I don't get why. | ||
| I don't agree. | ||
| I don't get why you didn't do it like immediately. | ||
| Just like look, I visited what was that. | ||
| I think that's like an opinion with no distinction. | ||
| It's like uh he could have done it, perhaps, maybe, I don't know. | ||
| We don't know what would have happened. | ||
| I think that in terms of it are things happening. | ||
| Well, aside from the fact that Charlie Kirk's assassination is one of the most shocking things this country has seen in in 70 years, things happen. | ||
| And uh then the uh then Jimmy Kimmel getting pulled off the air in a terror attack on an ABC station. | ||
| The amount of happenings that have happened that have are fundamentally rearranging politics in this country have been terrifyingly fast is pat in these in this past these past two weeks. | ||
| Is that gonna stay? | ||
| Or is it just gonna be okay, I need to be seen to be doing something, and then you know, six months down the line, there's no James Comey was just indicted. | ||
| There's another I'm saying that there's another foreign conflict, other things going on in the world, then suddenly the there's nothing. | ||
| It's not an argument for nothing ever happens, it's an argument of we don't know what happens next. | ||
| Yeah, but I'm saying like I do I do do I think in his head he's gonna go like I'm gonna go for Soros, I'm gonna make sure he's indicted, I'm gonna put 100% into this. | ||
| No, I think it's more of like lip service. | ||
| I don't think he's I don't think he's fully sold on the idea. | ||
| I would call that normalcy bias. | ||
| Uh perhaps. | ||
| Donald Trump just declared Antifa a terrorist organization and then indicted James Comey in the span of a couple of days, and you're like, Yeah, but he'll stop here. | ||
| Well, uh that there's no evidence to suggest that. | ||
| I haven't seen him go further. | ||
| I uh I I I mean, well, of course you haven't because he's as far as he's gone. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So if in three days so it's Antifa is a terrorist organization, then I am filing an executive order to have all governments dismantle the mechanisms of the left, and we're gonna indict James Comey, and next we're coming after Reed Hoffman and George Soros, and you're and you're going, he's not going fast enough. | ||
| I'm like, that's the craziest thing I've ever heard. | ||
| In fact, I think he's going too fast. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| The mechanisms of law for these indictments, we don't have enough courtrooms and grand juries and attorneys to go as quick as he's actually going. | ||
| When he instructs all government to go after all of these these agents, uh all of these uh uh nonprofit agencies, whatever, and at the same time trying to deport all of these people, sending the military out, he's stretched way too thin on this one. | ||
| And and the idea that nothing's happening is crazy. | ||
| Like this nothing ever happens argument, it's like, wow, I never would have thought that there'd be three terror attacks in three weeks, followed by three massive governmental reactions. | ||
| We're uh the Jimmy like these past two weeks have felt like a year. | ||
| Jimmy Kimmel getting taken off the air, brought back the the the FCC argument. | ||
| It is insane the amount of things that have happened in such a condensed amount of time. | ||
| Do you think it's just pressure valve, though? | ||
| That's my that's my skepticism. | ||
| I perhaps this is also as a break. | ||
| You look at the American federal government, you think like infinite resources, they can get whatever they want to do, could get done possible. | ||
| Reality on the ground, I'm not well versed enough. | ||
| I mean you may be completely correct about the court thing. | ||
| But like I feel like to some degree it is gonna be a pressure valve because what what benefit is it to Trump as an individual to get involved in all these indictments long term when his his term ends in in in a few years, he he wants to solve the immigration thing, he wants to leave his legacy. | ||
| I don't think he's gonna cross the Rubicon on that level. | ||
| I just don't. | ||
| I feel like it's with within his self interest. | ||
| I'm looking at the Let's just put it this way Trump is an individual. | ||
| Trump is you're watching Trump with a pickaxe chip away at uh a giant lodestone, and you go, yeah, but sooner or later he's gonna stop. | ||
| That's your argument. | ||
| The rhetoric just wasn't hard enough. | ||
| We are watching Trump swing the pickaxe, and you're like, yeah, but he's gonna stop. | ||
| And I'm like, okay, well, he's doing it. | ||
| His rhetoric just didn't seem hard enough. | ||
| It didn't seem like someone who was fully involved and committed to I really want to dismantle it. | ||
| He didn't seem outrageous. | ||
| He ends up going on this tangent about the uh the the autism thing. | ||
| I've got a big I've got I've got a big announcement on Monday. | ||
| Why do you want him to go uh go balls to the wall on for Charlie's memorial at that time? | ||
| Because I feel like that's the one. | ||
| That's not even possible. | ||
| Well, yes, he's not going hard enough. | ||
| He says, No, no, no, but I'm but I'm I'm saying like the the argument right now is that Trump is literally doing it, and you're like, yes, but he'll stop. | ||
| And I'm like, okay, if you think so. | ||
| There's no evidence to actually suggest that, other than opinion speculation, which is fine. | ||
| I'm not saying you're wrong. | ||
| I'm saying I am watching Trump do a thing. | ||
| He has said he's going to continue. | ||
| He's actually swinging the pickaxe harder than we've ever seen swung. | ||
| I don't understand why that is evidence that he will not do more. | ||
| It's like the idea that it it's Trump never does anything. | ||
| He just did all of this crazy things. | ||
| Yeah, well, he's not gonna do more, and it's like, but he keeps doing more, so I don't I don't I don't I don't know, I don't know. | ||
| I just if it feels like normalcy bias to me. | ||
| Perhaps. | ||
| Like we are we are dealing with in this in these past few years, more things have happened than like a hundred years of American history. | ||
| It's been fucking nuts. | ||
| That's the meme. | ||
| That's the joke that so much is happening internationally and nationally. | ||
| I mean, not only he he bombed several narco boats, redirecting American uh uh warfare towards the fentanyl. | ||
| You've you've got the deployment of the National Guard, the Marines, the legal battles over there. | ||
| You now have the federal indictments, you've got the the targeting of Adam Schiff and Letitia James through Bill Poulty. | ||
| Like Trump's doing so much fucking shit. | ||
| I'm like, wow, at this I said last week, what did I tweet? | ||
| At this pace, we'll see arrests by next week. | ||
| I was right. | ||
| To be fair, they didn't arrest Comey, they indicted him. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But that was the point. | ||
| And so we are Thursday, and my tweet was correct. | ||
| And it was funny because I tweeted hello with a retweet, and people are like, what are you saying? | ||
| And I'm like, maybe I know things. | ||
| I mean, I think I think also I'm just kind of thinking, I'm very emotionally charged on this in the sense that like it was going this way anyway. | ||
| A lot of people saw this sort of stuff happening. | ||
| Like preemptively, they were using this dehumanizing language, nothing was done, people are still deplatformed. | ||
| It's like that should have been undone prior to that. | ||
| Like we saw the way that this was gonna manifest, and now it's like just crack down on it. | ||
| And I feel like a lot of Americans, a lot of conservatives around the world, a lot of people on the right are like, can you just like because they would crack that the left would come down on this like a ton of bricks in a way that wouldn't be okay, we're indicting some people. | ||
| They would just go hard line, we're gonna ban these right-wing terror groups, and they they'd have a plan that'd be put into action the same day. | ||
| This, okay, he's done the executive order, but as we were discussing earlier in the show, what can actually be done about it? | ||
| Well, we don't know. | ||
| So to me, that's that's lip service because there isn't an actual plan to really go, okay, we need to dismantle these people, dismantle their funding. | ||
| You say, okay, there's gonna be indictments, but it's not gonna be fast enough for for these people. | ||
| We see that the ice facility was attacked. | ||
| It's still ongoing. | ||
| Lives are being lost. | ||
| People are living in fear. | ||
| Do something about it now because this is impacting the quality of life. | ||
| What should he do? | ||
| I mean, should he wait? | ||
| I got an idea. | ||
| Should he instruct all government agencies to target the infrastructure of the left and shut it down and arrest them? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He he did that. | ||
| He did that earlier. | ||
| We'll see if it produces fruit. | ||
| Is it is is it like fully? | ||
| Is that that the main focus? | ||
| He said all government agencies. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Executive order to go and start dismantling the financial structure of leftist organizations, leftist terrorism. | ||
| Well, we'll see how it looks by their fruits, you shall know them. | ||
| Be interesting. | ||
| I'm I I've just I've seen Trump say things before, and I'm being skeptical. | ||
| Um I I I am again. | ||
| Well, let's go. | ||
| Let's get that last colour Port Central. | ||
| Did you want to shout anything out? | ||
| She'd become American. | ||
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Uh, shout out to Tate for his low T Maga males. | |
| I have him take El Rai yogurt in improved metabolism, gut barrier to circular size, and sperm quality. | ||
| See it on Dr. Burke's channel. | ||
| I'm taking it myself and it's good stuff. | ||
| Right on. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| Thanks for calling in, brother. | ||
| All right, hey. | ||
| Well, I'm gonna uh say this. |
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