Sept. 26, 2025 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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| The Trump DOJ has indicted James Comey for obstruction and lying to Congress. | ||
| Oh boy, here we go. | ||
| Now, apparently, there was some other attorney who wasn't going to do it for some reason, said either the case wasn't strong enough, didn't want to. | ||
| So Trump said, get him out of there, get somebody else. | ||
| And now it is getting done. | ||
| They had only five days left until these statute of limitations was up. | ||
| So it looks like Trump is getting just what he wants. | ||
| And this, ladies and gentlemen, is a massive escalation at the political level. | ||
| Trump and his team, and for other reasons, all of you, better beg, hope, and pray that the Republicans win the midterms and that J.D. Vance wins in 2028 because they went after Trump. | ||
| Trump, of course, is going to get back at those who violated the law. | ||
| But if these people ever get near the seat of power again, the gloves are off. | ||
| And I thought they already were off. | ||
| But it is going to be nuts. | ||
| We also have other escalation at the physical level. | ||
| New information pertaining to the anti-ICE leftist terrorist. | ||
| He was planning this for a long time. | ||
| He had been researching ICE tracker apps using them and apparently had searched for Charlie Kirk assassination videos. | ||
| And the inking on the cartridges may have been him copying what the Charlie Kirk alleged assassin was doing. | ||
| So, wow. | ||
| Daily Beast is actually now writing about Trump warning of civil war. | ||
| And that surprises me because here's the left coming out and basically saying it's coming. | ||
| But to be honest, go to Blue Sky. | ||
| Just seriously go to Blue Sky or threads and read what these people are saying. | ||
| And yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There is a serious escalation. | ||
| Aside from all of that, I guess World War III again. | ||
| I don't know how many times you need to say it, so it's probably not worth saying, but Russia has basically stated that NATO is at war with them and emergency meetings are happening. | ||
| Russian jets violating U.S. airspace. | ||
| Holy crap. | ||
| So must I say to all of you, may you live in uninteresting times. | ||
| Holy crap. | ||
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| Hi. | ||
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| I'm just joining Tim tonight. | ||
| Just got what's going on and also mention a little bit what's going on in the UK as well. | ||
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Right on. | |
| Well, thanks for hanging out. | ||
| We got Tate hanging out. | ||
| What's going on, guys? | ||
| Tate Brown here holding it down. | ||
| Before I start, Pastor Vodi Bockham died about an hour ago. | ||
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| Sad to hear. | ||
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| I look forward to talking to Joseph and everyone else. | ||
| Mr. Phil. | ||
| Hello, everybody. | ||
| My name is Phil Labonte. | ||
| I'm the lead senior to Heavy Metal and All That Remains. | ||
| I'm an anti-communist and counter-revolutionary. | ||
| Let's get into it. | ||
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| Former FBI director James Comey indicted days after Trump demanded his DOJ move now to prosecute enemies. | ||
| Prosecutors earlier said they couldn't establish probable cause to charge Comey, which is a lie because we've got this post from Greg Price, which is hilarious. | ||
| On the left, James Comey telling Congress in September of 2020 that the steel dossier wasn't used in the 2016 intelligence community assessment on the Russia Oaks. | ||
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Right. | |
| Tulsi Gabbard's release from July showing the steel dossier was directly cited and that Obama Intel officials overruled senior Intel officials who told them it was garbage. | ||
| Now, I believe he's being indicted on obstruction as well. | ||
| Former FBI Director James Comey has been indicted on two of three counts sought by prosecutors. | ||
| One count of making false statements and one count of obstruction of justice just days after President Donald Trump issued a public demand for his DOJ to act now to bring prosecutions against Comey and other political foes. | ||
| The charges follow Trump's ousting of U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia, Eric Siebert, who, according to source said, expressed doubts internally about bringing cases against Comey, as well as New York Attorney General Letitia James, after Trump appointed him to lead the office. | ||
| I would just like to point out where we are in this country. | ||
| They went after Donald Trump on fake charges. | ||
| Trump says, okay, if that's the standard, we go after them as well. | ||
| It's remarkable to me that under the Biden administration and in New York, they said, well, these are highly dubious, but let's bring them anyway. | ||
| And then under Trump, the attorneys are like, well, we can't really do it enough. | ||
| The standard was set by the Democrats. | ||
| Trump is saying, hey, look, you want to come after me citing mortgage fraud or civil fraud for loans because an officer made a mistake on some numbers? | ||
| He's going to go after Letitia James when she claimed a property outside of New York was her primary residence, which gave her favorable loan terms. | ||
| I think the same thing is true for Adam Schiff, but we'll see what happens there. | ||
| And now you have James Comey. | ||
| James Comey said they didn't use the steel dossier. | ||
| Tulsi Gabbard says we went through that. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| Here's an IC report showing they did. | ||
| What's the problem? | ||
| What's the problem? | ||
| Let me say this, though. | ||
| I will say this of myself and pretty much anybody who's prominent in this space. | ||
| Y'all better pray Trump doesn't lose this fight because we've already seen what they're willing to do to their media adversaries. | ||
| We've seen what the left and the Democrats have been willing to do to run-of-the-mill Trump supporters who bounced around on January 6th. | ||
| I ain't talking about the rioters. | ||
| I'm talking about the people who are milling about after the riot was over, who also got a year plus in jail or solitary. | ||
| Going after James Comey, this is not a shot across the bow. | ||
| The Democrats already ignited the flames and Trump is simply responding. | ||
| So it is now on. | ||
| At the highest level of politics, Trump has told the deep state, you are going down. | ||
| At the street level, we are dealing with three terror attacks in three weeks. | ||
| So you guys tell me what's happening in this country. | ||
| I mean, look, as far as the situation with Comey, it's good that they're indicting him. | ||
| It's good that a grand jury decided that they had enough evidence to prosecute. | ||
| It's good that they've actually moved on this, didn't let the statue of limitations run out. | ||
| But I see this online, like people tweeting at like Cash Patel and people tweeting at Republican lawmakers saying, hey, make the leftists stop killing us. | ||
| Like that's where we're at. | ||
| So it's great that they put Comey in or that they're going to, that they're going to end there, that Comey's indicted and they're going to prosecute. | ||
| That's all well and good. | ||
| But we've actually gone past the need for that. | ||
| I got to interject. | ||
| If we do not see justice on the highest level of these people, the street level stuff is immaterial. | ||
| This is the most important thing. | ||
| Look, obviously, street-level law enforcement needs to stop far-left terror and anti-fun all that. | ||
| Because another thing, we got a lot of news. | ||
| Trump has ordered his DOJ to go after all of these leftists and all the structures. | ||
| Ground level is important. | ||
| But if Comey, Clinton, and their ilk are able to gain power again, I have zero concern whatsoever for anti-footfield. | ||
| You'll be in a gulag. | ||
| Just make sure you share with me your sandwich at lunchtime. | ||
| It doesn't matter. | ||
| The thing is, it doesn't matter if they put Comey away because this is, it doesn't matter if it's Comey or who the individuals are, because there are other people that will be pursuing those places in the administration. | ||
| There's going to be a Democrat that's going to be running. | ||
| There's going to be people in the bureaucracy that will want to, or there will be people on the Democrat side that will fill the roles and they're going to act the same. | ||
| You don't need to wipe out every single soldier on the enemy's battlefield if you shatter their center and the rest of them flee. | ||
| If Trump can get these, if simply these indictments and these charges against Comey, Letitia James, potentially Schiff, anybody else, if that breaks their ranks, those people you're describing are going to run for the Hills. | ||
| They'll find them. | ||
| So, oh, what's that? | ||
| They're already getting citizenship in foreign countries. | ||
| Italy, I hear. | ||
| I mean, well, look, it would be great if they fled the country, obviously. | ||
| But I do think that on the I think the ground level is the thing that's that's more immediate. | ||
| Like the idea. | ||
| But you can do both. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| Again, I'm not saying, like I said, it's good that they got him. | ||
| It's good that they've indicted him. | ||
| And I want to see more. | ||
| I'm not saying that it's not, you know, it shouldn't happen or whatever. | ||
| I'm saying it's. | ||
| You arrest these people and the ground stuff disappears. | ||
| I don't know that I agree with that. | ||
| I think so. | ||
| They'll lose all their funding and all their legal support. | ||
| Right now, with the infrastructures of power in place, these people might actually get off on the charges. | ||
| Well, I mean, the dude that, you know, initially, that just most recently shot up the ICE facility, he took care of it himself. | ||
| And that's something that actually happens fairly regularly. | ||
| Like they'll go and it'll be suicide by cop or they'll commit suicide themselves. | ||
| You look at all the trans shooters that have gone to schools and stuff. | ||
| There's not all of them, obviously, but a lot of them get taken care of on, you know, when they're carrying out the attack. | ||
| I think if Jimmy Kimmel's off the air, if the Democrats that waged lawfare against Trump are in prison, and what remains are the squishy, middle-of-the-road soft Democrats who are be like, I'm not going to support any of that stuff, you will stop this cultural movement on the ground level. | ||
| Their infrastructure that pays them to, that gives them resources to be on the ground, that bails them out of jail will evaporate overnight. | ||
| The way I look at it is you've got an infestation, and all you're doing is chasing the bugs that you can see instead of going into the walls and finding the hive. | ||
| So, of course, if we had a wasp's nest in the building and they were flying around, we'd be swatting the wasps to get rid of them when we see them. | ||
| But we'd also call an exterminator to go in the walls, figure out the nest is, and get the nest torn out. | ||
| This is substantially more important in my opinion. | ||
| Getting rid of the individual actors will stop the individual actor at the time, but how do you stop them from reproducing? | ||
| And it's moves like this. | ||
| I totally, well, I mean, this is probably the biggest test, one of the biggest tests of the DOJ so far because, I mean, this was a buzzer beater, right? | ||
| Like the Statute of Limitations, September 30th. | ||
| That's when Comey last testified, September 30th, 2020. | ||
| And it's like to prove that he didn't have any knowledge of the statement, to prove like perjury in this case, it's a really high bar. | ||
| That's why this is a buzzer beater in this case is because they needed to build this case to the best of their abilities. | ||
| And so this is like because these things matter. | ||
| These things are, like Tim is saying, you're cutting the head of the snake. | ||
| I think the issue is that if Trump got in on day one and said, go arrest Comey, he'd be like, I ain't doing it. | ||
| And that's literally what we saw. | ||
| They're going to be like, this is crazy. | ||
| You're asking me to go to war with the deep state right now. | ||
| And, you know, I talked to Seb Gork a couple months ago and I asked him, has the deep state lost? | ||
| Have we won? | ||
| He says, no. | ||
| The deep state is still very much there and we are battling with them. | ||
| So right now, with this move against Comey, you know powerful, prominent uniparty elite establishment, international elements are saying Trump wants war, he'll get war. | ||
| And I'm talking about lawfare, legal actions. | ||
| If Trump can just go now, and it's fascinating because what did we hear? | ||
| Was it going to be end of summer? | ||
| We're going to start seeing these arrests. | ||
| I think you can send them packing. | ||
| You know, now there's rumors that he might, he's looking into criminal activity of the Soros, his foundations, open society and things like that. | ||
| And they're going to get it. | ||
| They're going to get it. | ||
| Is that not really where they need to be targeting, though, these funding bases? | ||
| There's always going to be another James Comey who's going to step into the role. | ||
| That lobby and that media empire is so big. | ||
| There's so much power that comes along into it. | ||
| I'm sure it's not going to be super difficult to let someone also kind of, they can cultivate another individual like those financial bases and that sort of media base is really what he probably needs to hit to kind of provide that sort of long-term longevity that's going to allow them to win in the by-elections, but also when it gets to 2028 as well. | ||
| My argument to your question, wouldn't that just be another Comey? | ||
| The answer is no. | ||
| You think so? | ||
| Yeah, if Trump says, go to war with me and I'll destroy your life and you'll regret it, people are going to say, I ain't going to war with Trump. | ||
| And that's what I'm talking about. | ||
| They tried to play that game, but the problem is Democrats have always been fairly weak. | ||
| And let me clarify or qualify that statement. | ||
| They're willing to go insane. | ||
| They are willing to send people on the ground. | ||
| But as people, the only fear generated by the Democratic Party is the system itself, which they inherit, not which they've built. | ||
| Trump's a lunatic. | ||
| Trump is the guy that people actually think he might press the button. | ||
| You know, he had that famous phone call where he told Putin and Xi, he told Xi, if you invade Taiwan and Putin, if you invade, what did he say, Kiev, Ukraine, I'm going to nuke you. | ||
| And he was like, I don't know if they believed me, maybe 5%. | ||
| And everyone's kind of like, you know, when Trump says it, you pause for a second. | ||
| Because when Obama says it, no one actually believes it. | ||
| Is that not just that sort of Nixonite mad dog sort of mentality that Nixon's crazy, he's unpredictable. | ||
| And like, you know, obviously they went after Nixon again with the lawfare type thing. | ||
| I don't think Nixon's got it. | ||
| I don't think Nin's got anything on Trump. | ||
| No. | ||
| Trump put out a public statement saying, Pam, go arrest my enemies now. | ||
| And so what I think he's hoping for, that was a shot across the bow. | ||
| I think he's hoping the next in line for a position like Comey, which wouldn't even come unless they win in 2028, is saying like, dude, best be a fisherman than meddle in the politics of man. | ||
| That's what Trump is hoping for right now. | ||
| There's no guarantees it happens. | ||
| That's why I'm saying if Trump loses, it's war. | ||
| Trump needs to make sure he puts the fear of God in these people, I should say, of the federal law enforcement apparatus and makes them regret it. | ||
| They did it to him. | ||
| And they lost. | ||
| And now I say lock them up. | ||
| Trump's getting old, though. | ||
| I mean, like you're talking about going to warfare with Trump. | ||
| He's going to be, no offense to Trump, but he's getting older in age. | ||
| So if they go after him, say he does retaliation against Comey, good. | ||
| And Miss LaTeX James, that's cool. | ||
| But when he gets out of office, who are they going to fight? | ||
| Who's going to get in Trump's place to fight against them? | ||
| You really think so? | ||
| Yeah, Vance is going on X calling people dip itched. | ||
| I'm not going to swear. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know, but I saw that and I said, that's what I voted for. | ||
| Is it your opinion that there is no one? | ||
| No, I'd not. | ||
| Well, Vance would be my only guess as of right now, but I don't think I don't think there's any Trump out there today. | ||
| The Trump side has an amazing bench and the Democrats have none. | ||
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| Well, also, that's why this is important because you have to make an example out of Comey, like Tim was saying, for any future FBI director, make an example out of Letitia James. | ||
| Like, this lawfare crap is not going to slide. | ||
| So, whoever that is, it doesn't really matter. | ||
| Whoever it is that replaces Trump, Trump's giving that person breathing room now. | ||
| They're not going to have the boot on their neck of whatever, you know, God forbid, a Democrat administration comes back in and they appoint all these chowderheads. | ||
| He can give us a little breathing room if he sets the example here and says it done. | ||
| I feel bad for you, Tate, because like if a new Democrat administration gets in, I'll be 42, 43. | ||
| I had a good life, went on adventures. | ||
| How old do you take? | ||
| 24. | ||
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24. | |
| 24, man. | ||
| Being in a gulag at 20, 26, 27, all the best years taken away. | ||
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Oof. | |
| But you're right. | ||
| It gives other people room down the road. | ||
| You're going to say about it. | ||
| Look at Phil rocking out rock star stage, platinum records. | ||
| And then he doesn't got to worry about the gulag till these AOC puts me in the quirked up white boy camp. | ||
| It's going to be terrible. | ||
| Oh, I'm not looking forward to it. | ||
| You're going to be in AOC's harem. | ||
| Oh, she likes those white guys. | ||
| Those red-headed white guys. | ||
| He does like the red-headed white boy. | ||
| You got to wear sandals too. | ||
| You know, I'm not going to disavow. | ||
| But yeah, that's good. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| If he does, if it does get through and he prosecutes these people, that gives people down the road a leeway, an open path to go and say, okay, we're going to prosecute you. | ||
| You want to go against us. | ||
| Here we go from the Daily Beast. | ||
| Do I have to say it or does somebody else? | ||
| Trump's sinister warning of civil war after ICE shooting. | ||
| Super excited. | ||
| Democrats said the president's comments were sick and deranged. | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| President Donald Trump has warned Democrats that bad things will happen to them if right-wing people decide to retaliate amid growing tensions over this week's deadly shooting at Texas Immigration Facility. | ||
| While investigations into the shooting are still ongoing, the president has made it clear that he believes the radical left is solely responsible for Wednesday's tragedy. | ||
| I mean, they literally did a press conference and they were like, yep, he was a leftist and he hated Trump. | ||
| And he said he wanted to strike fear and terror into the hearts of ICE agents so they never know if there's a sniper waiting on the rooftop for him. | ||
| No law enforcement officers were hurt in the incident, but authorities say the shooting was politically motivated, targeting ICE agents who are central to Trump's deportation strategy. | ||
| Asked in the Oval Office on Thursday who was to blame, Trump said he did not doubt the radical left is causing the problem. | ||
| He also name-checked people such as Democrat Congressman Jasmine Crockett, who's been critical of ICE's heavy-handed tactics. | ||
| But despite calls to turn down the temperature in America, the president went even further, warning that things were only going to get worse for one side. | ||
| Quote, bad things will happen when they play these games. | ||
| I'll give you a little clue. | ||
| The right is a lot tougher than the left. | ||
| They better not get them energized because it won't be good for the left. | ||
| It'll be a point where other people won't take it anymore, and we don't want that. | ||
| Now, the funny thing is, Trump didn't say civil war. | ||
| Daily Beast did. | ||
| I did not say Civil War. | ||
| Daily Beast did. | ||
| The fascinating thing is while for the past several years, people have largely criticized me for covering these articles and talking about this possibility. | ||
| In the past two or three years, it has largely been the left warning that a civil war was coming. | ||
| No joke, go to Blue Sky or Reddit. | ||
| And so we did a few segments on this show where I went to Reddit and looked up all the leftist subreddits where they were all saying literally civil war is coming. | ||
| And I think it's because they knew that Trump was going to win. | ||
| More importantly, when Trump took a bullet and narrowly survived, everyone on X, left and right, said we were millimeters away from a civil war. | ||
| Now, with the, I'm going to say it again, three terror attacks in three weeks. | ||
| I fully, I tweeted this last night. | ||
| Am I going to go to bed and wake up to news of another terror attack? | ||
| Like, honestly, it's been insane. | ||
| Waking up, and I woke up in the morning and it's like ICE facility shut up. | ||
| It's just going to keep getting worse because they won't stop. | ||
| On CNN the other night, Bakari Sellers is basically once again pushing and pushing and pushing. | ||
| And what I can't understand is why right now, not a single Democrat on any of these shows just says, guys, everybody, cool it, stop. | ||
| Conservatives do it all the time. | ||
| Conservatives beg for it to stop. | ||
| Certainly, don't get me wrong, there are liberals and Democrats who have called for it. | ||
| However, they tend to be lower in notoriety. | ||
| I saw a former spokesperson for Biden or whatever on Fox say, yeah, we don't want this. | ||
| And I'm like, but no one knows who that is. | ||
| Just no following and no influence. | ||
| There's not one prominent Democrat that has come out and said, stop attacking law enforcement. | ||
| Let law enforcement do their job, which is the most, most antine, basic thing that you want to hear out of a representative. | ||
| If you're a Democrat and you actually want to see the temperature turn down and you don't want to see more violence, then you need to come out and say, stop inhibiting law enforcement from doing their job. | ||
| Stop calling them the Gestapo. | ||
| Stop telling them that they have to take their masks off because you know if they take their masks off, what's going to happen is their family is going to be doxxed and their families will be attacked. | ||
| Stop doing all of the stuff that you're doing that is not saying law enforcement has a job and they are empowered to do it. | ||
| Just stop doing that. | ||
| And then I might believe that you actually want the violence to stop. | ||
| And until then, I don't believe that you want the violence to stop. | ||
| No, I got to interject there. | ||
| Masks should come off. | ||
| And I do agree that they need to tone the rhetoric down, which can include the mask commentary. | ||
| But I do think the feds should not wear masks. | ||
| I think if you want to go out proudly in defense of this nation, you must accept those risks. | ||
| And I do not appreciate, and I certainly understand. | ||
| I am here every single night with my face on camera. | ||
| I have been doxed. | ||
| I have been swatted numerous times. | ||
| I've been attacked. | ||
| I understand my job doesn't require me to be on the ground in front of these people, but that's something they accept even with masks on, that there is a physical danger that they are experiencing. | ||
| I think we cannot play a game where we have federal law enforcement being like the threat of terrorism is so serious, we have to hide ourselves. | ||
| I think each and every one of these officers engaging in this should take their masks off and say, I am name, you know, John Smith, a proud American legally and lawfully enforcing the law. | ||
| You are terrorists and we won't stand for it. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| We should, I'm sorry, I'm not playing this federal law enforcement to hide their faces because they're scared. | ||
| We know. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| And I feel for you because the left are violent psychopaths. | ||
| But I don't think this is how we should be handling it. | ||
| I think we should be we have to be, I don't know, steadfast, vigilant, and I don't know. | ||
| Just we have to face this challenge head on. | ||
| If we're better than them, real quick, if we think we're better than them, which we are and we think we are, and we feel a certain way, we should take off. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| I like the idea of taking off the mask because we stand for a purpose and a point. | ||
| Nope, everyone's posting ones. | ||
| You're all wrong. | ||
| Like, I am not going to tolerate, I will not live in a country where cops walk around with no badge numbers and masks on covering their faces because they're scared. | ||
| Because they're scared. | ||
| You are operating under color of law. | ||
| You are entitled to do so. | ||
| You are protected to do so. | ||
| And fear of far-left terror, I do not believe is a good enough reason that regular people should have to live with cops walking around in all black. | ||
| I mean, I think there has to be some sort of preemptive measures for that. | ||
| I mean, these people with families and kids and livelihoods, like, yes, they're representing the federal government, but I mean, of course, they're scared, but there hasn't been a lot of preemptive measures to counter this far-left terrorism. | ||
| I mean, we're starting to see it now following the Charlie Kirk's assassination, but these guys are going to want guarantees. | ||
| Otherwise, I imagine a lot of them will just walk out of their jobs if they're told they have to have to unmask. | ||
| They're living next to these people. | ||
| We've seen from the backlash of Charlie Kirk's murder, how many people in Blue Sky were just hundreds of thousands of likes calling for deaths of Ben Shapiro, other politicians, political commentators. | ||
| They want blood, and these people are living next door to them. | ||
| You don't know who they are. | ||
| They're so emboldened that it's going to be very difficult to persuade these guys. | ||
| Yeah, let's de-mask. | ||
| And then next minute, they're getting knocks at the door, their family's being harassed, or they're actually potentially going to be. | ||
| I totally get it. | ||
| You've got two options: civil war or not. | ||
| And if the argument is the threat of far-left terror is so pervasive in our hometowns that our own police officers have to hide their identities, you're in a civil war. | ||
| End of story, no argument. | ||
| Let me say it again to everyone out there that are telling me, you're telling me that I have to live in a country where any cop anywhere is going to not have a badge number visible. | ||
| They're going to cover their faces so they can't be doxxed. | ||
| I don't get to know who they are. | ||
| You are at war when that is the reality. | ||
| If that's what you're saying, and I got no problem with that's the reality. | ||
| And I agree with you then. | ||
| If you want to say civil war has begun, then I'll say, okay, mask up. | ||
| Because I understand the argument. | ||
| Law enforcement may quit. | ||
| We'll have nobody willing to actually do the job because the far left is going to come for their families. | ||
| Yeah, you're at war. | ||
| If you are saying there are insurgent terrorists all across this country that will kill you and your family, you are at war. | ||
| That's just it. | ||
| That's what I think it is. | ||
| I think that people don't realize, particularly on the right, they don't realize how aggressive and vicious these people really are. | ||
| I don't think that, you know, as a society, we've really stepped back and looked at it because the media institutions are kind of, they're encouraging it, right? | ||
| Like all this dehumanizing language, like calling them the Gestapo. | ||
| I mean, that's what it's for, is to dehumanize them to justify violence. | ||
| Let me ask you, I'm going to ask you guys a quick question. | ||
| Why does Antifa wear masks? | ||
| So no one knows who they are. | ||
| And why don't they want him to know who they are? | ||
| Because they're doing bad things. | ||
| But that's not an answer. | ||
| Oh, it was an answer, but they don't want him to know because they're a group. | ||
| They're like a blob of group of people. | ||
| Why does Antifa wear masks? | ||
| They wear masks. | ||
| And well, the black block wear masks and stuff so that way they can blend back into the crowd. | ||
| And what does that accomplish for them? | ||
| That way they won't get arrested. | ||
| Well, they will get arrested. | ||
| They're anonymous. | ||
| A cop can grab anybody off the street and arrest them regardless of what they're wearing. | ||
| The purpose of wearing a mask is so that you can't take pictures of their face. | ||
| You can't share their information online. | ||
| And if they get caught, you can't prosecute them because you can't prove beyond a reasonable doubt. | ||
| We are asking for that same thing with our law enforcement as well. | ||
| And if you want to acknowledge that we are saying we want our law enforcement people to go out, you can't figure out who they are. | ||
| You can't take pictures of their face. | ||
| Anything that happens in the fray, we won't be able to pinpoint which officer necessarily because just like Antifa, we have created a large group of individuals that are wearing the exact same clothes and you can't see their face. | ||
| This means that if one of these guys in a conflict with the far left cracks a skull or whatever, they can't do anything legally about it. | ||
| If that's the argument you're going to make, we are in a civil war period. | ||
| Well, the big thing with ICE that we're all missing here is that the reason they have to mask primarily is because they're dealing with drug busts and the cartel. | ||
| And that's a massive infrastructure, especially in the southwest United States. | ||
| And they've been masking for like 10 years now. | ||
| And it's primarily because, okay, yes, there is a factor at the far left where they dox these guys, but the ICE is in a completely different battlefield from the rest of like, I guess you would say the right wing is because ICE is having to deal with the cartel. | ||
| They're having to deal with these drug busts and busting up these human trafficking routes and these sorts of things. | ||
| So it's like, it's not the far left they're worried about. | ||
| Like if you talk to these ICE agents, typically it's the cartels and the retribution from those guys is what they're typically rating. | ||
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I get it. | |
| I get it. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| I respect that argument for sure. | ||
| But again, I'm going to say this bottom line. | ||
| If y'all want to say we're at war, then war powers. | ||
| And what does that mean? | ||
| Guys, if you're arguing that our federal law enforcement should be able to wear masks because of wartime conditions, I'm actually going to push you one further and say you are not giving our men and women enough. | ||
| If the argument is the threat of the far-left terror is so great against their families, we got to step it up. | ||
| Well, I mean, not just masks. | ||
| They got to get more. | ||
| They need selective fire rifles. | ||
| They need full military, everything. | ||
| They already have selected fire rifles, but the point. | ||
| Not the cops, not the beat cops. | ||
| Well, yeah, okay. | ||
| So they usually have a rifle in their car. | ||
| They don't carry them on there. | ||
| But the point is, so you're talking about ICE that's trying to carry out these, you know, these, they're trying to wrap up the illegal. | ||
| Well, I was talking specifically about all federal law enforcement. | ||
| I think a lot of people are taking that to assume just the ICE. | ||
| I'm saying. | ||
| Well, generally, ICE is the ones that are wearing the masks and stuff, right? | ||
| So you don't see a lot of that's what people are complaining about, right? | ||
| The general argument is that police shouldn't be wearing masks. | ||
| So, okay, fine. | ||
| I'm saying that I don't want to live where police. | ||
| Like I mentioned, local cops wearing masks. | ||
| Okay, fine. | ||
| But so the federal law enforcement are wearing masks, right? | ||
| And we don't, and you say you don't want that. | ||
| What that requires, right? | ||
| You're saying if they have to wear masks, that means that the violence and the problems are too great to be considered normal. | ||
| But that for the local police who have jurisdiction to go out and pick up the people that might actually attack the federal law enforcement, they're not doing it because the sanctuary cities are saying, no, we won't have these people do these things because we won't, you know, and the local municipalities won't do it. | ||
| So the problem is the federal government needs to get the local municipalities and stuff to actually do their job. | ||
| So let me ask you a quick question. | ||
| When there is a, let's just say like a jurisdiction, for lack of a better word, that is not required to abide by the laws of a separate jurisdiction. | ||
| It largely says we don't have, you don't have anything to do with this. | ||
| There's two separate locations. | ||
| When jurisdiction B sends armed men into jurisdiction A to enforce laws that jurisdiction A says we do not abide by. | ||
| What do you call that? | ||
| When they send people into the case. | ||
| There are two isolated jurisdictions. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Two isolated jurisdictions with separate laws, different worldviews, different rules. | ||
| One city decides to arm a bunch of guys and send them into the other side by force against their will to enforce laws that the other city wants enforcement. | ||
| So you're pointing at civil war. | ||
| I'm not talking about civil war. | ||
| I'm talking about it's war. | ||
| It's just period war. | ||
| If the argument is that California won't abide by federal law, has ordered their people to defy federal law, is allowing individuals to defy federal law, they are not part of this country as it is. | ||
| Part of this country means that your structures, state, city, local, or otherwise, are going to abide by legal supremacy in this country up to the Constitution. | ||
| What we are seeing right now, if this is the argument, is that blue states have just said absolutely not. | ||
| And when Trump said, this is our election happened, people said immigration. | ||
| We're going to go and start rounding people up. | ||
| What happened? | ||
| At the governmental level, Gavin Newsom fought the federal law enforcement, ordering the National Guard not to listen to Donald Trump under his orders, which he's allowed to do because they're not enforcing the law. | ||
| If our ICE agents, let's isolate to ICE, are at a point where they're facing a threat from terrorists that have support from Democrat politicians who help fundraise for them, NGOs run by prominent Democrat donors, and in California, Gavin Newsom and local law enforcement lets these people attack federal facilities. | ||
| I would call that akin to piracy, right? | ||
| And at that point, I think it's very obvious when you break it down that way, we are in a civil war. | ||
| Yeah, I just think if you look from like Trump's perspective, right, he's tried to de-escalate this Charlie Kirk situation. | ||
| There hasn't been like hard rhetoric, get retribution. | ||
| And like in that article you were talking about, he didn't mention civil war. | ||
| He was just warning from a very logical position. | ||
| If you keep attacking the right, eventually they're going to go, are we supposed to just sit and take it or are we going to retaliate? | ||
| That's kind of what he was saying there. | ||
| He wasn't saying it from like a Republican position. | ||
| So if you're Trump, you tell them to demas, which I believe that all federal employees, particularly law enforcement, there should be that accountability. | ||
| Your face should be out there in an ideal world. | ||
| Let's say they do demas. | ||
| Not at work. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We know that there's going to be some sort of physical retribution, attacks on these people. | ||
| That's only going to escalate the situation, right? | ||
| To something that is going to be more kinetic, that potentially is going to be far more divisive. | ||
| I don't think he wants to be the president that is dealing with that on his plate. | ||
| He wants to just get his policies done in the way which is most amicable as possible. | ||
| They obviously don't want that, which is why we're in the situation now. | ||
| I give you two options then. | ||
| Stop pussyfooting around and go and arrest all of them. | ||
| Don't give me this excuse. | ||
| I'm scared. | ||
| I have to wear a mask. | ||
| Send the law enforcement to kick the doors into the far left people that are threatening you and put them in prison, then take your mask off. | ||
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Agreed? | |
| 100%. | ||
| I'm sick of this half measure. | ||
| I don't think that they have the ability to isolate the people that are actually making the that are likely to do like the doxing and stuff like that. | ||
| I think it's part of the problem. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| The doxing is annoying, but at the same time, it is the individuals who carry out the violence that are the real problem. | ||
| Getting doxxed is bad. | ||
| We've been doxxed, and it's crazy what people are capable of. | ||
| But the guy who posts my address is a problem. | ||
| The guy who comes here to care the threat is the threat. | ||
| But it's not a unitary organized attack. | ||
| So look at the alleged assassin of Charlie Kirk. | ||
| I don't think there were, as far as we're aware, there weren't big indications that this was a guy who was militarized and violent and ready to assassinate. | ||
| And if it was, it seems from the evidence that I've seen, it seems like it was something that was almost like a spur of the moment. | ||
| He hit a psychological breaking point and decided to do that. | ||
| They're more akin to random acts of violence. | ||
| It's not like a big organized, premeditated, right, we're going to get that guy, we're going to get that. | ||
| So it's much harder to tackle. | ||
| Yes, I get it. | ||
| If your argument is any one of these individuals walking down the street at any moment might turn around and stab you, then it's time for Trump to dissolve the U.S. Constitution under Presidential Directive 51, create an enduring constitutional government under a single branch, as George W. Bush's executive order in 2007 granted the executive branch power to do. | ||
| And then he can send out his masked, militarized police force across the country to make sure this doesn't happen. | ||
| But the argument that we are at a point where a random individual might pull out a gun and shoot you at any moment, if that is the case, it is worse than anyone realizes. | ||
| We are in an active civil war. | ||
| And instead of half-assing it and being like, just keep doing your job, but hide in the meantime, that's insane. | ||
| How do you fight an idea? | ||
| How do you fight an idea? | ||
| Like, it's not an organized structure. | ||
| That Trump dissolves the United States and creates the first American empire. | ||
| And then he creates a massive, multi-billion dollar federal police force that supersedes all of the local governments and then starts searching people's homes. | ||
| And I mean, what is the argument to at any moment, a random liberal might detonate a bomb or shoot somebody? | ||
| It's almost like a denazification program at that point. | ||
| You'd have to go in and you'd have to gut the institutions. | ||
| It would be a complete, like you said, like it'd be a transformative measure. | ||
| I don't think he's got the appetite for that. | ||
| Let's just try and do the math. | ||
| Three terror attacks in three weeks. | ||
| It was mainstream liberal ideology that was behind the shoot, the murder of Charlie Kirk. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So I agree with your point. | ||
| I think you are correct. | ||
| We don't know who's been radicalized. | ||
| It could be too many people. | ||
| And even AOC is espousing the ideology that this guy shared that motivated him on the House floor. | ||
| Okay, let's try denensification. | ||
| So, how do we figure out who holds the ideology and is needing a re-education? | ||
| Well, I mean, we're going to follow the donors. | ||
| We're going to see the top-down media who. | ||
| Well, this was a random guy at home, like you mentioned. | ||
| It is a random guy. | ||
| Yeah, but I mean, you can look at the media he was consuming, right? | ||
| You can see the groups that he's in, the ideologies he's identifying with. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So, my question is: how do you find him before he kills Charlie Kirk? | ||
| That's almost like how do you stop a guy if it's almost like a thought crime before they've done it. | ||
| Agree, you can't, which is why I said the solution to the problem you're describing is Trump dissolving the three branches of government under Presidential Directive 51, creating an enduring constitutional government as prescribed by National Security Presidential Directive 51, and then he creates a federalized police force which goes and secures every street corner because we don't know at what point a liberal is going to just go start foaming at the mouth, plot a gun and shoot a random person. | ||
| Now, I don't think we can live that way, and I don't think anyone would tolerate that. | ||
| So, the idea is right now, where are we? | ||
| Law enforcement can't do their job because the threat of left-wing terror is too great. | ||
| Okay, well, we're losing then. | ||
| We are losing if that's the case. | ||
| I don't want to lose. | ||
| There's no such thing as we're going to knock on doors and ask people if they're radicalized and then bring them to a re-education center. | ||
| There's no way we're going to find some random dude who's on Discord who one day decided to take his grandfather's gun and go assassinate Charlie Kirk because they're just people walking around. | ||
| If the radicalization is that bad, then the only answer is full-blown, full-scale American empire. | ||
| Like, Trump has to go iron fist on the table right now before it actually comes to multi-faction war across the United States. | ||
| I would argue even Trump's base doesn't have the appetite for that. | ||
| Then we lose, then we lost. | ||
| This is the point I'm making. | ||
| To everybody who's like, no, law enforcement should wear masks. | ||
| If your argument is we need our law enforcement to mask up because they fear that the left will attack them and will go after their families, we've lost. | ||
| Like, what we are describing is we are a diminished capacity force with scared federal law enforcement that are concerned that the might of leftist terror would overwhelm them and they won't be able to do their jobs, so they have to hide themselves. | ||
| The reason why Antifa wear masks is because there is a more powerful state that can crush them and they're trying to hide from it. | ||
| But when communists take power, they put on uniforms. | ||
| If the argument is our men in uniform have to hide, we are losing. | ||
| I mean, I know in the UK, for example, they would do this almost harassments of dissidents, where before people could commit a crime, and the UK has got a huge amount of these human rights problems. | ||
| But one of the things that they did do fairly well, which has curbed radicalism, is when they see people expressing these ideological tendencies, they will get these knocks on the door. | ||
| And the idea is that you're being watched, you're going to be less emboldened to go do something. | ||
| But I fully disagree with that, Laura because it can be massively abused. | ||
| When you look at it from a civil liberties point of view, there is no easy answer here. | ||
| You're in a society that is so polarized now with such a lust for political violence on one side, and then the other side is kind of going, well, look, no cities burnt down when Charlie Kirk was killed. | ||
| It's like, yeah, that's a great virtue. | ||
| But when the other side literally wants you dead, what is the solution? | ||
| What can Trump realistically do? | ||
| And what is the average Republican voter actually going to do themselves to try and negate that fact? | ||
| It's a very difficult question. | ||
| Well, here's a story from the post-millennial. | ||
| Trump signs order launching all of government effort to dismantle left-wing domestic terror groups. | ||
| The post-millennial reports, President Trump signed a memorandum on Thursday launching an administration-wide effort to dismantle left-wing domestic terror groups across the country. | ||
| The order seeks to interdict the groups, block them from performing violent acts, and the administration will look at sources of funding. | ||
| Let's play the video. | ||
| Anarchists and agitators, professional anarchists and agitators, and they get hired by wealthy people, some of whom I know, I guess. | ||
| Yeah, I probably know them. | ||
| And you wouldn't know it. | ||
| At dinner with them, everything's nice, and then you find out that they funded millions of dollars to these lunatics. | ||
| Steve, could you say a couple of words? | ||
| Yes, Mr. President. | ||
| This is a very historic and significant day. | ||
| This is the first time in American history that there is an all-government effort to dismantle left-wing terrorism, to dismantle Antifa, to dismantle the organizations that have been carrying out these acts of political violence and terrorism. | ||
| What we have seen, if you look at whether it be going back to the riots that started with Black Lives Matter and all the way through to the Antifa riots, the attacks on ICE officers, the doxing campaigns, and now the political assassinations, these are not lone isolated events. | ||
| This is part of an organized campaign of radical left terrorism. | ||
| It is structured. | ||
| It is sophisticated. | ||
| It is well funded. | ||
| It is well planned. | ||
| There is really no parallel like this to anything else in the country right now. | ||
| There is an entire system of feeder organizations that provide money, resources, weapons. | ||
| And when they're attacking ICE officers, they're attacking federal buildings, or they're isolating public officials for harassment, doxing, intimidation, and ultimately attempted assassination. | ||
| It is all carefully planned, executed, and thought through. | ||
| It is terrorism on our soil. | ||
| Because of this executive order, Cash and Pam are going to have the tools they need working with Scott to take these organizations apart piece by piece. | ||
| And the central hub of that effort is going to be the Joint Terrorism Task Force, or JTTF, which sits inside the Federal Bureau of Investigation. | ||
| But for those at home who are worried about terrorism in this country, they need to understand because of President Trump's strength, because of his vision, because of his leadership, we are now going to use the entire force of the federal government to uproot these organizations, root and branch. | ||
| And again, that's only possible because of President Trump and his leadership. | ||
| Thank you, Steve Cash. | ||
| I'm going to take this opportunity to announce my retirement. | ||
| This will be my last show. | ||
| I've decided that I shouldn't be showing my face because of the threats against me and my family. | ||
| I think I have been convinced by the audience. | ||
| The threats that we've received over the past week, even being completely uninvolved in anything related to TPUSA, have been so tremendous that my security team warned I wouldn't be able to travel. | ||
| And a disguise wasn't necessarily an option because my travel itinerary stuff can be leaked as well, especially by employees who are doing load manifest. | ||
| And the issue being that with prominent mainstream run-of-the-mill liberals posting that they wanted to see these deaths, the concern is, you're absolutely right, Joseph, in what you were saying. | ||
| We don't know which one of these people might just see a flight manifest and then send a message to a Discord saying Tim Poole's going to be on this plane. | ||
| Here's when it's landing. | ||
| So the ultimate decision was we could buy four plane tickets, you, your wife, two security guards. | ||
| You'll land. | ||
| We'll have two security guards waiting for you, four-person escort to an armored SUV, which will bring you to a hotel where we'll stand guard outside of the door for 24-7 security, be transported to the event where security will stay with you at all times. | ||
| And then you will go back. | ||
| You'll be confined to your hotel. | ||
| I said, I don't think I want to do that. | ||
| And they said, you probably shouldn't travel. | ||
| And, you know, so I think everybody's correct in that I'm not a law enforcement guy. | ||
| I'm just somebody with opinions and the threats are really great. | ||
| And they're trying to figure out where I live. | ||
| They come to my house. | ||
| Why would I take this risk at all? | ||
| So I quit. | ||
| Just because just, I'm sorry to hear that, Tim. | ||
| But also in the political world, we're talking about how anything can happen anytime. | ||
| Left-wingers and liberal folks can get crazy right off the bat. | ||
| We live in that world now. | ||
| Look at that young lady who got stabbed on the train. | ||
| Anyone right now, today you walk out the street, you get shot and killed by anyone, by anyone, anywhere. | ||
| So we're just focusing on the political world. | ||
| I'll be more serious about it. | ||
| I don't understand the argument that people are telling me I'm wrong about asking our law enforcement to stand firm and proud and fight for their country. | ||
| And they're saying, no, they should hide, but then expecting me to have to live in a box. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'd much rather just, I can, I can, you know, it's really funny. | ||
| I, uh, I put on a blue t-shirt. | ||
| I should describe it down here. | ||
| Yeah, I've seen that. | ||
| Well, I'll just say it. | ||
| I put on a blue t-shirt, took my hat off, and put on glasses, and no one knew who I was. | ||
| I walked and we're like, who is this guy? | ||
| Yep, everybody, and then, and then I walked up and they went, uh, so uh, you know, I, I, I can be real. | ||
| Like, if this is the opinion people have, honest question, why do you expect me to do this forward-facing publicly with my own name where I'm worried about whether our food's being tampered with, we can't order food, we have to have bodyguards. | ||
| Like, why am I living this way? | ||
| If our law enforcement gets special protections and privileges, you expect me to do all of this. | ||
| I'm just kind of like, maybe you guys are right. | ||
| Maybe we should all hide. | ||
| Maybe we shouldn't put ourselves at risk. | ||
| I can launch a new YouTube channel with an AI. | ||
| There's like, isn't it an honest question? | ||
| Is Liberal High of Mine just AI, right? | ||
| That YouTube channel? | ||
| Is the guy? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Because it very much sounds like AI. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| That's just how he is. | ||
| Okay. | ||
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| I didn't mean to impugn your honor. | ||
| But I could just launch an AI channel known over, make it a woman. | ||
| Yeah, you're an AI avatar female. | ||
| Like, no, you know what I'll do? | ||
| The anime waifu. | ||
| You did the VTuber. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| You can move around and they move. | ||
| You can be like a rabbit with a chick. | ||
| Oh, bro, I'm out. | ||
| Why don't I do that? | ||
| I mean, it'd be a VTuber. | ||
| Your voice, you'd have to change your voice. | ||
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| Easy. | ||
| You got those real-time AI voice changers. | ||
| You're way more front-facing towards the political world than the cops are, than one cop on the street, than one. | ||
| Which is, which my point would be that most of these cops have substantially less risk than I do. | ||
| Yes, they do. | ||
| So if the argument is they should wear masks, no one should know who they are because the left are terrorists. | ||
| I'm like, I'm being 100% serious thinking about that. | ||
| Like, if that's what people really think, they just killed Charlie. | ||
| Like, maybe none of us should be doing this and we should just sit back and let Trump do his thing. | ||
| But for an ICE agent, what difference does it make for their job if they have their face out there in their name? | ||
| Because at the end of the day, they're a badge and they're conducting an operation, a very specific job. | ||
| Like, it doesn't matter if they're a public individual or not. | ||
| We're trying to get legal immigrants out. | ||
| Like, how do we do that? | ||
| The argument is the far left might try to dox them. | ||
| And I'm sitting here being like, well, I'm already doxed. | ||
| The far left, once they dox, they might try to kill them. | ||
| Like, they're literally trying to kill me. | ||
| And we have people showing up and I have to get guns. | ||
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| But if you're an ICE agent making, I mean, I know they're getting paid decent, but they don't have the money for security or anything. | ||
| And it's like, it doesn't, it's not advantageous for them in any way to be like a public-facing person. | ||
| Like, it doesn't, if anything, it just makes it worse. | ||
| But they're not a public-facing person. | ||
| They don't have to be, and that's why they're mad. | ||
| No, there's tons of anonymous personalities that make tons of money doing political commentary. | ||
| Yeah, it's true. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, and I think that's fine. | ||
| I do think there's value. | ||
| Maybe that's where we're going. | ||
| I mean, look, Charlie got assassinated. | ||
| Yeah, I do actually think like anonymous or pseudonyms is like fine in the political space and they're able to push ideas without fear of getting killed. | ||
| I mean, people ultimately buy from people. | ||
| And when the, you know, you are disseminating ideas, they're buying into an idea. | ||
| They're buying into, especially if you become a living embodiment of that idea. | ||
| I want to be like that guy. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| I want to live in the way that he lives because he seems really fulfilled. | ||
| I understand what you're saying completely. | ||
| Like let's, they should be demasked, but what that would be, it would be a giant gambit. | ||
| And you would, we know what would happen. | ||
| We would see families being targeted. | ||
| We would potentially see targeted assassinations, but it'd be on a much larger scale. | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| You don't? | ||
| No. | ||
| Well, why aren't they? | ||
| There is a risk department somewhere that is an individual because there's a reason why they killed Charlie Kirk and not an individual ICE agent. | ||
| There's tons of federal law enforcement, including guys that aren't wearing masks, just some of them are. | ||
| And they went three. | ||
| They killed Charlie. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But they tried to kill ICE agents. | ||
| Who did? | ||
| Like two days ago. | ||
| No, who? | ||
| Joseph Jones. | ||
| Joseph John or whatever. | ||
| Oh, right, right, right. | ||
| So that's, but that was indiscriminate. | ||
| That wasn't a targeted guy's house. | ||
| No, but it was the third terror attack on ICE where they went to a facility and attacked random people. | ||
| In fact, you killed detainees. | ||
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Right. | |
| The argument we're making is they will go to the home of the ICE agent. | ||
| I mean, yeah, presumably if their information, if they're privy to information at some point, I mean, you can go on LinkedIn and find this. | ||
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And the cartel is a, I mean, you got a CBP facility here. | |
| You could just sit outside and collect license plates. | ||
| I mean, the cartel things are important. | ||
| We've seen the assassination of various DEA agents, right? | ||
| Like that happens a lot, right? | ||
| They would be in the same realm as that. | ||
| However, the difference is that that is like, you know, the cartels are a foreign organization. | ||
| So it's seen as an external threat, foreign terrorist organization. | ||
| Yeah, no, I don't. | ||
| And within the cartels, when it's on your own soil and it's your next door neighbor, it's the guy sitting next to you on the bus. | ||
| It's a completely different, almost like years of lead type scenario. | ||
| Yeah, if they do demask, they're obviously not because there has been a risk management sort of assessment, probably like hundreds and hundreds of pages long that has gone, actually, it's probably best that these guys stay masked up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The reason why the left doesn't have any leaders, they actually do. | ||
| And I will tell you this from literally being in these direct action meetings with leftists. | ||
| They have leaders. | ||
| The leaders organize. | ||
| They supply money, tools, and then they say, I'm not your leader. | ||
| And if anyone asks, I'm not in charge. | ||
| When they go out to protest, you'll never see anybody directly leading the group because they say law enforcement will target any perceived leaders. | ||
| So that's why they say Antifa is a leaderless movement. | ||
| It has leaders. | ||
| They're just lying. | ||
| Liberals cover up for them or they're just stupid. | ||
| Someone is funding these tools. | ||
| Someone is buying these things and handing them out. | ||
| Someone is telling these people where to go. | ||
| Someone is saying, here's the route we're going to take. | ||
| And it's usually a small group. | ||
| The hierarchy is natural. | ||
| Usually it's a young guy who says, here's what we're doing. | ||
| And they say, okay. | ||
| Because I mean, let's just be real. | ||
| Communism isn't the real thing. | ||
| The idea that there's like a truly decentralized group of friends all holding hands, just being like, how many of you want to vote for a route that goes down Broadway and turns left at 45th? | ||
| Raise your hand. | ||
| They don't do that. | ||
| One guy goes, here's the plan. | ||
| We're going to march from the financial district down Broadway. | ||
| We're going to turn left at 42nd, make our way to Bryant Park. | ||
| From there, we've got a group waiting with shields. | ||
| And they go, okay. | ||
| Now, who's that guy? | ||
| Who does he work for? | ||
| Where's the money coming from? | ||
| I mean, that's what this needs to resolve. | ||
| Indeed. | ||
| But has it, when we were talking before the show, that potentially this doesn't actually change much? | ||
| Like, is this really going to give him the tools and give the FBI the tools to dig into these people, hold them accountable? | ||
| I mean, it is kind of that vague thing. | ||
| I made a donation. | ||
| I don't know what happened to the money after it went out. | ||
| I thought it was for a good cause. | ||
| It was a misappropriation of funds. | ||
| They know what they're doing. | ||
| They're not stupid. | ||
| They're highly sophisticated actors. | ||
| When they are doing these donations and they are sort of pushing these ideas and kind of giving someone a tap on the shoulder to do something, it's done in a way where they're not going to be held legally accountable. | ||
| The donors themselves, the people that are actually making the donations, if they're in the small denomination, they likely do think, okay, I'm just doing this to help. | ||
| Because the people that donated to Black Lives Matter, they were conned. | ||
| And, you know, those people, they thought they were doing something good. | ||
| But the people that are running the organization and those people, you know, they have to file paperwork and et cetera. | ||
| Those people you can wrap up and those people that the DOJ can look into. | ||
| And then any big donations, like, you know, really sizable, hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars, that's something the feds can look into as well. | ||
| What if Trump was like, we're declaring Antifa a terrorist organization? | ||
| All of those who are flying the symbols of Antifa, who are pledging allegiance to or support for our fair game. | ||
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I think that that's what our solution should be. | |
| Our commies are right. | ||
| But you're saying that that means regular citizens going out, taking individual action as a civilian against someone who's flying the Antifa flag. | ||
| Oh, no, no, no, no. | ||
| I misunderstood. | ||
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I thought you were talking about federal law enforcement. | |
| No, I'm saying Trump tells everyone in this country, if you as an individual stop someone who's flying Antifa, like I asked you a question. | ||
| What if Trump did that? | ||
| That would be a terrible situation. | ||
| Well, so the reason I ask that question is that Trump has designated Antifa a terrorist organization. | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| If you are a citizen of this country and you are walking down the street and you see a guy with a gun waving an ISIS flag, will you go to jail if you stop that person? | ||
| Depends on the jurisdiction. | ||
| That's why I'm asking what would happen. | ||
| The point I'm making with the question is, Trump has said Antifa are terrorists. | ||
| What is the legal ramification of a citizen saying citizen's arrest or citizen enforcement action against a terrorist flying a terrorist flag? | ||
| If you're a terrorist on my land, I have a right to stop you in my country from doing terrorism. | ||
| Well, I don't know what you do. | ||
| Well, I'm just saying, like, in general, like, you would think that folks would want to stop terrorism on their own account. | ||
| It should be. | ||
| I mean, like, let's say there was like an Islamic terrorist. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That was waving one of the several flags. | ||
| I'm not going to say it. | ||
| Some case would get demonetized, but it's like, I'm sure, I doubt a jury in a court would prosecute them for, you know, this guy's waving a firearm or whatever, and he shoots him and preemptively stops up to terrorists. | ||
| It all depends on the jurisdiction. | ||
| Totally depends on the jurisdiction. | ||
| If you do that in New York, you're going to jail forever. | ||
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Right. | |
| Right. | ||
| If the guy was actually, if the guy was actually shooting at people in New York, there's still a possibility that you would go to jail if you took him out. | ||
| Well, I mean, that's something that needs to be addressed on a federal level. | ||
| Is that even possible? | ||
| Can they do that? | ||
| I mean, I'm not familiar with the people. | ||
| Well, it would be a local thing. | ||
| The feds wouldn't actually have jurisdiction over that. | ||
| The blue states are in a soft succession right now because they have sanitary states. | ||
| So they're softly succeeding, trying to, but they're not really doing it, but it's like a soft civilization. | ||
| And if there's someone that's actually shooting or even probably menacing people with a gun, which means pointing a gun at someone, and you shot him in another, in a state that has stand your ground laws or has the Second Amendment friendly, there's a possibility that you could convince a jury. | ||
| No, he was going to hurt people and I prevented him. | ||
| Now, that would be dependent on the jury, but there is a possibility that, look, here's the situation. | ||
| He was saying these things. | ||
| He was yelling these things. | ||
| He was pointing his gun at people. | ||
| So I saw that and I figured I needed to take action to defend someone else because he was going. | ||
| I was in legitimate fear for my life and I believed that he was going to cause permanent harm or death to someone else. | ||
| So I acted to prevent, to end the threat because there was an ongoing threat. | ||
| Now, you can make that argument. | ||
| And if you have a good lawyer and you are in front of a jury that's fairly friendly to the Second Amendment and you're in a jurisdiction where there are people that are friendly to the Second Amendment, you might be able to get justifiable homicide. | ||
| But in a place like New Jersey, in a place like New York, that is not going to happen. | ||
| You will go to jail. | ||
| So this is actually surprising. | ||
| My cursory search, which is surprising to me, is that if there is a known foreign terrorist organization individual, ISIS is a great example, who is flying the flag and armed and screaming while walking down the street, you have no legal right to do anything as a citizen against that person, be it stop them, detain them, or hurt them in any way. | ||
| They're to be treated, according to my cursory search, as if they were any other citizen, no matter what. | ||
| So that sounds like something that needs to be dealt with, but obviously with the First Amendment right, is it political expression if you're waving the flag? | ||
| Everything that Tim said is true, but it still does depend on the jury. | ||
| Yeah, well, you'll get arrested. | ||
| You'll get arrested. | ||
| In most places, you're going to get arrested. | ||
| There's very few places where you could get away with shooting someone and you wouldn't even. | ||
| I'm pretty sure. | ||
| It just has a flag. | ||
| Well, let's clarify what you mean by arrest. | ||
| Very few, not none. | ||
| I think you need to clarify what you mean by arrest. | ||
| The police are going to take you into custody. | ||
| Custody is not arrest. | ||
| Like being detained, you mean? | ||
| Arrest is probably cause for a crime. | ||
| You're being taken to be processed for that crime. | ||
| I would still say that there are a few. | ||
| There are some jurisdictions where you might not. | ||
| I'm pretty sure. | ||
| I can at least speak for West Virginia. | ||
| I would even get down to it. | ||
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It depends on the property. | |
| Yes, if you're on your property. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And like in Florida with Zimmerman and Trayvon, I don't believe he was arrested. | ||
| He was brought in for questioning and then released, and that's what caused the controversy. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, that could be too. | ||
| Again, I think that it does depend. | ||
| It depends a lot on the, even down to the locality, because if you're in an urban area in a place like West Virginia, you might not get the same kind of treatment from the county sheriff or whatever that you would if you were in a more rural area. | ||
| So do you think it's going to be a case of perhaps Trump needs to encourage the red states to adopt legislation to facilitate this sort of citizens' arrest, potentially if someone's holding a fire? | ||
| This is one of those slippery slopes. | ||
| It's a slippery slope, right? | ||
| And also, you're talking about this kind of like soft secession. | ||
| If you've got a de facto situation in blue states where these guys can walk around unattested and actually not just that, but can continue to grow. | ||
| It wouldn't be Trump. | ||
| It wouldn't be Trump. | ||
| It would have to be something that Congress passes to have the force of law. | ||
| And I don't know if that would stand because places like New York or New Jersey or Illinois, they would fight that under 10th Amendment grounds. | ||
| They would say, we have the state's right to do that. | ||
| I think as we discuss this and go through the math of everything we're looking at, the real underlying thing that everyone is just saying is we're in a civil war. | ||
| I think that it's across the West. | ||
| There is an ideological war. | ||
| I think that it is. | ||
| It's less of like a civil war, like you guys are here, you guys are there. | ||
| I mean, it is more of a years of lead type scenario. | ||
| But that idea of you guys are here and we're there has never been a civil war ever. | ||
| Well, I mean, the American Civil War. | ||
| Although there was a one line in a track. | ||
| But that's that's the Spanish Civil War as well. | ||
| But the American Civil War is the, it's not a civil war. | ||
| Okay, well, semantics different. | ||
| But so most people would understand the Civil War is going to be something like the American Civil War, the Spanish Civil War. | ||
| But what was the Spanish Civil War then? | ||
| It was an ideological war. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But no, like there were factions fighting and there was no here and there. | ||
| It was Franco from Morocco went up to the south of Spain, rallied troops to fight against other military, seized control of military assets, and then you saw certain areas that were leaning in one direction, nationalist or Republican, and the fighting was actually all over the country until militarized force were able to secure certain areas and then push out the farm. | ||
| Yeah, but I mean, even if you look at the Syrian Civil War, you can look at the live map, there was a front line, right? | ||
| Same in the Spanish Civil War, right? | ||
| Like, there are this city is ours. | ||
| Yes, there might be some insurgencies within those cities, but there was like, okay, they've got their military units there. | ||
| They've got their trucks. | ||
| Right, but it was spotted all over. | ||
| Well, I mean, it wasn't. | ||
| The Spanish Civil War was blotches. | ||
| There are front lines. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So the American Civil War was actually a union fractured, a new union formed, and then the union, proper noun, sent troops down to force the separate union. | ||
| So that's very different from any other civil war ever throughout history. | ||
| What the U.S., the United States Civil War, they call it, is more akin to a standard war in Europe or something. | ||
| It is more akin to a conventional war by two countries. | ||
| That's effectively what the American Civil War was. | ||
| Well, I mean, the Spanish Civil War did have front lines. | ||
| city this road these trains were under our control on the other when you look at the spanish there was still a differentiation whether you're under the national that that that that That's correct, because the Spanish Civil War was not a you're there and we're here. | ||
| It was this city is controlled by the Republicans, this farmland and this ruler is by the nationalists. | ||
| Down south, there's a pocket where we control in between, but the nationalists have this and the Republicans have this. | ||
| Yeah, but I mean, in traditional civil wars, control is spread out all over and blotches. | ||
| I mean, even in the Confederacy, there were unionists who were living within the Confederate borders who were still aiding the Unionist side. | ||
| So as an insurgency, yes, but de facto, like, who was controlling lawyers? | ||
| I'm just trying to clarify because the point I'm making is the United States Civil War is not a civil war by most historical standards. | ||
| The fact that there was a north and south dividing line, a Mason-Dixon line, is solely unique to the American Civil War. | ||
| Other civil wars throughout history had split control in various regions, not a north and a south. | ||
| There's northeastern, western, like when you look at the Spanish Civil War map and you watch how the militaries moved through areas, there were pockets over here that was nationalist, nationalist, nationalist. | ||
| The nationalists was largely like rural areas. | ||
| The Republicans were largely urban areas, and they were split up all over places. | ||
| Initially, but then they did become, they did consolidate forces after initial period. | ||
| Franco and his troops started crushing the left and moving through, they gained more control. | ||
| But the American Civil War started as something entirely different with a literal line between two unions. | ||
| In fact, Texas, one of the reasons for Texas secession to join the Confederacy was simple proximity. | ||
| When Texas voted to join the Confederacy, it was simply, we have no trade partners. | ||
| So I guess this is who we're with. | ||
| It wasn't like the people in Texas were like, we hate the union. | ||
| It was like, well, look, for all intents and purposes, we are part of the Confederacy. | ||
| In Maryland, they actually were one-third sympathetic to the South. | ||
| So it wasn't, and it's still a very important thing. | ||
| I mean, there was still, what I was trying to get is there were still geographical states and regions which were considered under the control of those governments or forces, right? | ||
| And that's true today right now in the United States. | ||
| In the U.S., well, yes, no, like I don't think that like the governor, like Gavin Newsom, for example, is going to come out on the complete side of like, he denounced the murder of Charlie Cook. | ||
| Like he's not on the same parallel as the sort of people that Trump's sort of fighting here. | ||
| I don't think they might share the same ideological realm, but do I think Gavin Newsom is involved on grassroots level, anti-fur, you know, guys going and assassinating politicians? | ||
| No. | ||
| I think they share the same ideological space. | ||
| So as a result, they don't even want to give an inch of ground because if they give an inch of ground against the left, then that's a complete flood against the. | ||
| And that's a good distinction to determine when we're actually in a civil war is when you actually have a policy from a state defy the jurisdiction of the federal government and say, we will not abide by your rules. | ||
| Which I guess your argument is going to be with like the sanctuary city stuff. | ||
| Well, I guess never mind. | ||
| That's probably not a good distinction because that literally is what all of them are doing. | ||
| So if it's not, okay. | ||
| I'm being completely honest question here. | ||
| We have political assassinations. | ||
| We've got California allowing far leftists to firebomb and attack federal law enforcement with impunity. | ||
| In the Pacific Northwest, they did the same thing. | ||
| Portland, local law enforcement isn't stopping these guys. | ||
| They've let them do it for now three months. | ||
| I think it's been going on in Portland, and the feds are trying to stop it. | ||
| It's not to the point where Gavin Newsom says, go and arrest those federal agents, but Gavin Newsom just ordered federal agents to take their masks off. | ||
| So the question then is: we're looking at this gradient to try and figure out when it is technically a civil war, but I can say this. | ||
| We are in a period of assassinations where the mainstream political faction of the left celebrates it, or they lie about it, or they defend it. | ||
| The ideology that motivated the assassin is espoused on the floor of our own congressional house by the most famous Democrat, in my opinion, AOC. | ||
| You can make arguments about any of the other Democrats, but they've largely waned. | ||
| And as pertains to law enforcement, the California government is letting far leftists organize and firebomb federal facilities. | ||
| It's California, Oregon, and Washington have been doing this for years. | ||
| Newsom tried to commandeer control of the National Guard away from Donald Trump and has now ordered federal law enforcement to abide by his rules and take their masks off. | ||
| Okay, so it's not a civil war. | ||
| An insurrection, perhaps? | ||
| Is a better terminology? | ||
| Say insurrectionary activity. | ||
| Civil unrest. | ||
| Unrest still going. | ||
| It's what we've been calling it civil unrest for, you know, but I'm asking, like, when does it become a heap of sand? | ||
| If Gavin Newsom, he just came out and said, where they passed a law, right, mandating authority over federal law enforcement, which they don't have the authority to do, and they're threatening federal law enforcement with arrest. | ||
| It's all about Trump's response, right? | ||
| Trump would have, I imagine I'm not as well versed in American politics as you guys, but he would have somewhat of a mandate to go, okay, well, this state is acting in rebellion of the Union. | ||
| I'm sure there's some sort of legal prerequisites where he could potentially justify federalizing it, whatever it may be. | ||
| But I'm sure there's still a huge amount of legal frameworks to go through to try and resolve it before it gets to a point of actually there is no discussion. | ||
| It's like, we're going to do this, we're going to do that, and we're an impasse. | ||
| Let's pull this up. | ||
| We got a story from CNN. | ||
| It's from a couple days ago. | ||
| California bans most law enforcement officers from wearing masks during operations. | ||
| California became the first state to ban most law enforcement officers, including federal immigration agents, from covering their faces while conducting official business under a bill that was signed Saturday by Governor Gavin Newsom and swiftly denounced by Trump administration officials. | ||
| The ban is a direct response to recent immigration raids in L.A., where federal agents wore masks while making mass arrests. | ||
| The raids prompted days of protests and led Trump to deploy National Guard troops and Marines. | ||
| Okay, so here's the question. | ||
| Law enforcement being dispatched to California is now being, it is forbidden for them to wear masks while conducting federal law enforcement. | ||
| Do you believe the government of California will enforce this law against federal law enforcement? | ||
| I don't see that happening. | ||
| I don't think they have to. | ||
| That's a big line. | ||
| I don't think they have a big line to cross. | ||
| They don't have a mechanism. | ||
| I mean, like, we saw in the 60s something somewhat similar in the civil rights era where the feds cracked down on states for not, you know, not playing ball, and then the federal government won. | ||
| That's vice versa. | ||
| Feds cracking down on states. | ||
| This is a state trying to crack down on feds. | ||
| Well, this is state. | ||
| Yes, sir. | ||
| What do you think, Phil? | ||
| You think Gavin Newsom will have state troopers go and arrest ICE for wearing masks? | ||
| I don't think he will. | ||
| I think that he'll posture. | ||
| I think that he'll posture, but I don't think that it'll actually dispatch. | ||
| I think that's the line. | ||
| Yeah, it's a big line. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| If Gavin Newsom arrests federal law enforcement, we are in new territory. | ||
| That's 100% the line. | ||
| I think the struggle we have with the concept of civil war is no one knows when you're in a civil war. | ||
| Throughout history, every single civil war, they have always argued and debated whether or not they were actually in a conflict. | ||
| And as we bring up famously, we historically look back at Fort Sumter as the beginning of the American Civil War, but the people who lived in the country at the time didn't even think we were in one and went and picnicked at the first Battle of Bull Run because they didn't think a civil war was happening. | ||
| And then the Confederates won, routed the North, sent them packing, and then thought the war ended. | ||
| They said, that's it. | ||
| No war. | ||
| We've just shown them. | ||
| And then Lincoln was like, nah, send in the troops. | ||
| And then four other states were like, oh my God, this is getting crazy. | ||
| What's going on? | ||
| Took a long time. | ||
| The first seven states to secede from the Union happened before Abraham Lincoln was even president. | ||
| Several months. | ||
| So I don't know that we'll actually know until we're well into it. | ||
| In fact, I believe they called it, what do they call it? | ||
| First, it was like a rebellion in the South. | ||
| Then it was called a conflict between states. | ||
| And then I think it was like a year later or a year or two, they started calling it the Civil War in the United States. | ||
| I mean, it is reasonable to say that it's possible, like right now, like looking back, you know, they'll say that now was the beginning of it, that the assassinations, that the first shots that were fired were actually people assassinating other people and taking shots at law enforcement and stuff like that. | ||
| I mean, even though they're not. | ||
| Take a look at this one. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| Who wants to read that headline? | ||
| Charlie Kirk's murder could become another Fort Sumter. | ||
| You know, the fact that this is something that the respectable journalists are talking about now, The Hill, which is absolutely legacy media, to call this, you know, far-fetched now with all of these attacks on ICE facilities, with the attempts on Trump, with the murder, this is no longer far-fetched. | ||
| This is no longer the stuff of a. | ||
| Can I cash out like a 50-leg parlay or something on this one? | ||
| I'm going back seven years on this, boys. | ||
| I mean, I'm going to play a bit of devil's advocate here. | ||
| I think that a lot of these legacy media are coming out with these very sensationalist headlines because they are losing to independent media and they can't keep up. | ||
| The people aren't interested in clicking some really kind of like boring whitebread sort of headlines anymore. | ||
| Like everybody's so sort of brain rotted from the scrolling, everything's sensationalized, World War III every other week that they kind of have been pushed towards this more radical discourse. | ||
| But the knock-on effects of reading stuff like that are very real. | ||
| It does put it in people's heads. | ||
| It's true, but if there weren't so many people that have died, there weren't so many attacks. | ||
| I mean, like there were four ICE facilities attacked since August 1st. | ||
| I think actually in the past three weeks. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| It's been like three attacks in three months. | ||
| I Googled it last night when I did the intro, and it was four. | ||
| Actually, I did it on Grok and it was four ICE facilities attacked since August 1st is what I checked. | ||
| I asked how many ICE facilities had been attacked. | ||
| So yeah, like whether or not there were people killed, not all of them had casualties, but there were four ICE attacks or four ICE facilities attacked since August 1st. | ||
| So in the past two months, like you have Charlie Kirk that was murdered. | ||
| You have Donald Trump that was the assassination attempt. | ||
| That was just over a year ago. | ||
| Then there was, you can say that the attacks, I don't think that the attack, the murder of the Minnesota lawmaker was actually politically motivated, but there are people that'll swear up and down that it was. | ||
| This is something that is not unusual at this point in time. | ||
| Like this is something that has become almost commonplace. | ||
| I mean, people are waking up saying, hey, am I going to find out that there was another political murder in the country? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, even, like, the Epstein stuff with, like, the lawyers disappearing and, like, dying and these suicides, I think, like, it has become a lot more of a violent political atmosphere in America. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, there's always... | ||
| It's become normalised to, you're almost, you're not surprised now. | ||
| Like, if it... | ||
| If I saw another assassination, I don't think I'm going to have the same reaction that I did to Charlie Kirk. | ||
| I'm somewhat expectant that seeing the level of praise that it's had from the left, that someone is going to do a copycat attack because they're going to hit that sort of like cult status. | ||
| So we've got a half correction. | ||
| It's actually pretty wild that we can't and don't cover every story because if it doesn't reach, it doesn't bubble up. | ||
| We don't know. | ||
| But on August 29th, a person attempted to run over a CBP agent. | ||
| We've got the August 25th was bomb threats to a Dallas ICE facility. | ||
| If you're talking about the ambushes, then it's three in like three months. | ||
| If you're talking about everything from death threats to riots, it's five. | ||
| No, no, it's four. | ||
| It's four. | ||
| So, and I guess CPP doesn't really count. | ||
| So it's three since August 1st, broad. | ||
| And then violent attacks like rifle long range, those terror attacks, I think it's three in three months. | ||
| On June 29th, when the 20-year-old set the fire and he killed the fireman, he killed the chief of police and Jai Morrison. | ||
| Where was it? | ||
| Clanfield Mountain, first of Texas, I believe. | ||
| You guys talked about it. | ||
| No, no, it's not ice, but I'm saying they set up ambushes, you know, more violent. | ||
| There was the Zizian assassination of the CPP guy earlier this year. | ||
| Yeah, it's been pretty dang wild. | ||
| So we're definitely in Bleeding Kansas. | ||
| Isn't it kind of funny to say, like, hey guys, Bleeding Kansas confirmed. | ||
| Yesterday on the Will Kane show, they opened by calling this Bloody September. | ||
| I think Jack Pesobic was the first person I saw who called it Bloody September. | ||
| And I agree. | ||
| The reason why we say Bloody September is it condenses all of the ideas of the attacks into a single phrase, which can invoke that knowledge. | ||
| So it's a zip file for memory. | ||
| That's why we give things names. | ||
| Do you think that the economic fallout of something like this escalating, though, is going to be far too great? | ||
| I mean, the thing that people care about the most is ultimately, do I have a good standard of living? | ||
| If there is a. | ||
| think that like here does have that sort of political climate because I mean when you look at there's no kids There's no kids? | ||
| Gen Alpha is half the size of Millennial and Gen Z. That's the problem. | ||
| But is it on the conservative side, though? | ||
| Because I've never seen this many young families of guys in their 20s, married kids, highly Christian. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| But even with that trend among Gen Z, Gen Alpha is 40 million. | ||
| Estimates from 40 to 42 million. | ||
| That is half the size of millennials. | ||
| And Gen, I think they're calling it Gen Bravo because nobody likes beta is just starting now. | ||
| Meaning our economy is fried no matter what we do. | ||
| And you now have a large cohort of young, single, childless men. | ||
| On which side, though? | ||
| On both sides. | ||
| Now it's less likely. | ||
| I think a third of Gen Z men are leaning right, but either way, like Gen Z men largely are not having relationships and having kids. | ||
| Look, I was supposed to have a kid in my 20s. | ||
| That's human standard. | ||
| That's what all humans have. | ||
| But I turned, how old was I, 22 or 23 when the financial crisis happened? | ||
| So sleeping on couches, I didn't even realize at the time something was wrong. | ||
| I lived with like nine dudes, a bunch of college-age dudes in this massive loft where we all spent a couple hundred dollars because it was cheap. | ||
| And it was like six bedrooms and I was in the pantry. | ||
| Pantry was nice. | ||
| A door to the kitchen and a door to the living room. | ||
| And it was, I think, probably six by eight. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| It was probably eight by ten. | ||
| Not bad. | ||
| It's a huge pantry. | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Walk in, two doors, put some curtains up. | ||
| It was pretty cool. | ||
| We have parties. | ||
| I would put shelves at the doors and I'd sell booze. | ||
| But anyway, I was supposed to be working a job and having a family, but that was impossible. | ||
| And so even right now, Gen Z guys aren't doing this. | ||
| Rudyard Lynch talked about this. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| You were talking to him earlier. | ||
| I don't know if you brought it up, but historically, whenever you get a large population of young men without children, you get war. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, that's true. | ||
| And then AI is going to take away all their jobs here in 10 years, five years. | ||
| They cooked. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We cooked. | ||
| Yeah, the one saving. | ||
| The one saving grace is that young, it's not a saving grace. | ||
| It's actually a very sad thing, but young men's like hormones are completely nuked. | ||
| So a lot of them don't even have the testosterone required to sign up for a full-blown civil war. | ||
| You're just going to get insurgents from the left. | ||
| That's all you're going to get. | ||
| The right-wing guys are actually healthy. | ||
| The one thing that I'm really surprised that, well, the one thing that I think we should expect as things escalate would be like more bombings because that was something that was really common in the 70s, in the early 70s, late 60s. | ||
| The weathermen and stuff, there were over a thousand bombings between 1970 and 1972. | ||
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Wow. | |
| And that's something that hasn't taken, you know, you haven't seen a lot of, thankfully. | ||
| But as thing, as tensions rise and you have people that aren't as suicidal looking to harm, you know, their political opponents, that's the kind of thing that I think we need to be concerned with as the next level. | ||
| If that does start becoming something that's common, then I feel like that's the next escalation or would be looked at as the next escalation. | ||
| The reason we're not seeing it is there's three reasons. | ||
| The first is it requires coordination to some degree. | ||
| I know there's obviously lone wolves over the years, but it requires a degree of coordination with others. | ||
| Two is people are like not smart enough to assemble these. | ||
| I mean, I know you can follow directions online and stuff, but there's actually a lot of stories blowing them up in their house. | ||
| You can ask Chat GPT. | ||
| I know that, but I'm saying people are blowing themselves in houses. | ||
| It's like if you look it up, it happens somewhat frequently. | ||
| And then the third is that the government's actually done a pretty good job of making it difficult to collect the materials you would need to put together a bomb. | ||
| Yeah, that's one thing that I think is a good point. | ||
| The base materials to do this stuff, like the government is actually watching for people that purchase certain things in order or whatever. | ||
| So that might be why. | ||
| The fourth would be to your points, would be, and Phil's point that they are more suicidal, unfortunately, nowadays than they were back in the day. | ||
| Back in the 60s or 70s, 70s, you were saying they probably had more reasons to live, but nowadays they're sitting in their house all by themselves in the bedrooms on 4chan and Reddit. | ||
| And, you know, they, yeah, so their mental health is way worse. | ||
| It's a bit grim, but someone made an important distinction: typically a shooter is planning on not making it the operation versus a bomber. | ||
| They're planning to go on the run and there's going to be a manhunt to find them. | ||
| So that's kind of the distinction: you're dealing with a death cult, and ultimately they just want to get out of this world. | ||
| They feel nothing inside versus a bomber. | ||
| There's like an ideology. | ||
| Like you think something's important enough to maybe try and do it again. | ||
| It's like A Bushnell, you're talking about earlier today. | ||
| Oh, he's going to be remembered forever. | ||
| I'm going to get myself on fire. | ||
| Nobody's going to be able to do it. | ||
| It's an important point. | ||
| The only thing on the left, the only thing they value from young white men is like martyrdom. | ||
| The only thing you can provide for the left if you're like a young white guy is like suicide for the cause versus the right. | ||
| They're just like, yeah, we can use you here. | ||
| We can use you here. | ||
| Turning point USA, we'll get you right in here. | ||
| It's like clockwork. | ||
| The left's like, you're going to have to kill yourself, dude. | ||
| It's the only way to contribute to the movement. | ||
| And so that's primarily why it's so far when they join. | ||
| I'm compiling a list of politically motivated attacks 2025, and it's already the list that I've got is insane. | ||
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Jeez. | |
| This is bleeding Kansas. | ||
| The crazy thing is, as we were mentioning, did you guys even know that in Maine, someone tried running over a CBP agent? | ||
| In Chicago, an illegal immigrant tried running over one of the ICE guys, so he shot him and killed him. | ||
| I think that happened in Florida, like a day later. | ||
| So all of these are happening on top of the political violence that's high level. | ||
| Then you've got the low-level riot stuff that often doesn't break to national news. | ||
| You've got the ongoing riots that are happening in Portland that they just started arresting these people. | ||
| It's been sustained for some time. | ||
| You had the ramming in New Orleans. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Yes, that's right. | ||
| That was on New Year's or right around New Year's. | ||
| Yeah, you know, we were going to go. | ||
| January 15th. | ||
| That's where my wife and I were planning on going to New Orleans. | ||
| And at the last minute, we changed our mind and didn't go. | ||
| And then we saw the news and we were like, we would literally be right there. | ||
| And didn't that one young kid get run over by that old man up in Washington or something in an alleyway because he was Republican a couple of years ago? | ||
| I think we were Washington. | ||
| Remember that? | ||
| He got ran over for being a non-I don't know if it was Washington, but there was a kid that got up. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I think the distinction, though, is like, as you were saying before, they're not organized. | ||
| There seem to be emotional outbursts, which, I mean, I had myself in the UK where we were putting up the flags, and some guy, literally, just some boomer, abandoned his car on the side of the road, came running over and tried pushing us off a ladder that was like, you know, two, almost three stories high. | ||
| Luckily, we spotted him and we were able to bail to the right, which was a grass verge rather than the left, which is a main road. | ||
| But if he'd have come up from behind, what was his plan? | ||
| He was going to knock us off. | ||
| We hit our head in the road. | ||
| One of us could have died. | ||
| He wasn't thinking. | ||
| It was an irrational, emotional moment. | ||
| I almost felt sorry for the guy because he got himself so wound up. | ||
| He's clearly so stuck in his head and sort of enthralled by this ideology that he feels like it's worth to just kind of crash out and break that mundaneness of his life up. | ||
| They do see themselves as these revolutionaries, particularly that sort of like boomer generation, which I saw the guy who tried assassinating Trump. | ||
| I think he was actually, did he get indicted or like charged? | ||
| Yeah, the Roth. | ||
| Yeah, he got poor counselor or something like that. | ||
| It's like they grew up in like the 70s where they were the counterculture, that hippie culture. | ||
| They believed the world was going to be John Lennon's imagine. | ||
| It's just like, well, you know, reality check, it doesn't work. | ||
| The world's never going to be like that. | ||
| But in their head, there's still this like, they're sticking it to the man. | ||
| We're actually the counterculture is coming from the right, particularly in Europe. | ||
| And it kind of has happened. | ||
| Now it's become the mainstream. | ||
| Imagine somebody. | ||
| But again, going back to my previous point, it's not organized. | ||
| It's like, yeah, it's just like it is. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It is these lone wolf, like sad attacks of people who are probably pretty depraved individuals who actually just need help. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But how do you get help to those people? | ||
| Because they sit and they fester and it's all online. | ||
| They need help, but they have nihilism, which is petrified. | ||
| They need help, but they have to be open to help. | ||
| They don't believe they need help. | ||
| That's the problem. | ||
| Well, I mean, yeah, they're not open to being helped. | ||
| So if someone's not going to, look, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink, right? | ||
| You can tell people, look, here's here. | ||
| This will actually make you feel better. | ||
| This is actually, these are positive steps that you can do to not feel hopeless, to not feel like there's no meaning in life. | ||
| But that doesn't mean they're going to do it. | ||
| It doesn't mean they're going to take the steps that you're recommending. | ||
| And it's likely that they're going to be hostile to you for recommending it. | ||
| Well, I'm saying like the left is already fairly organized, but they're not organized in a violent way, as far as we know right now. | ||
| Unless, I mean, we'll see what comes of this Charlie Kirk case. | ||
| Perhaps it was. | ||
| I know we saw people who allegedly had foreknowledge. | ||
| Perhaps it was. | ||
| Perhaps it wasn't. | ||
| We'll see. | ||
| If it is organized, that would kind of change the game a little bit. | ||
| So this is the list that GPT gave me. | ||
| The New Orleans ISIS attack. | ||
| The Coventry, Vermont CBP agent killed by Zizians. | ||
| In May, a Jewish museum shooting from a pro-Palestine motive. | ||
| June 14th, the coordinated shooting of Democratic state legislators. | ||
| That one's up in the air because that one may have been personally motivated. | ||
| We don't know for sure. | ||
| Alvarado was the Prairie Land ICE Facility Ambush the same day. | ||
| Portland, Oregon was attacked on an ICE facility. | ||
| July 28th in New York, midtown Manhattan mass shooting at 3.5. | ||
| Was that really? | ||
| When was that? | ||
| Was that Trende Aragua? | ||
| Do you want to Google that search? | ||
| Google that? | ||
| What do you say? | ||
| Manhattan? | ||
| Yeah, July 28th, Midtown Manhattan mass shooting. | ||
| August 27th was the Annunciation shooting. | ||
| July 28th, that was the dude that ran into the, went up to the 33rd floor or whatever. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| Oh, right, right, right, right. | ||
| The NFL thing. | ||
| Yeah, allegedly, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, the NFL thing. | ||
| But that was also a BlackRock building. | ||
| And he went to a BlackRock office. | ||
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Oops. | |
| Yeah, right. | ||
| I don't believe it. | ||
| August 27th was Annunciation. | ||
| Auram, Utah, September 10th. | ||
| That's Charlie Kirk. | ||
| September 15th, political canvasser was stabbed. | ||
| Whoa, I didn't know that. | ||
| September 19th was the ABC station. | ||
| Whoa, really? | ||
| I didn't know about the September 15th attack. | ||
| And they're still missing a whole bunch. | ||
| I still thought Curiosity included more than one perpetrator, though. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| The challenging thing is. | ||
| One of the attacks on the Ana ICE facility was like five people. | ||
| It was Black Rock office that was attacked, right? | ||
| I forgot about that one. | ||
| That was in Midtown New York, yeah. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And they said it was the NFL, but he was in the BlackRock office, and they're like, he meant to go to the NFL, I swear. | ||
| I don't know that I believe that. | ||
| What's the obvious? | ||
| So they are missing one of the ICE facility attacks. | ||
| The cyber truck thing as well? | ||
| That wasn't Tesla. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| They're forgetting all the Tesla stuff. | ||
| Where's all the Tesla stuff? | ||
| I mean, just... | ||
| There's a lot going on this year. | ||
| We need to get a comprehensive list of all of the terror attacks for this year so we can have this in like a Google Document database to actually start tracking this. | ||
| Because this year's been insane. | ||
| The terror attacks on Tesla. | ||
| What was there? | ||
| Like 70 of them? | ||
| And the one guy blew himself up? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Reportedly, you know, the guy, the military guy who was like locked in cockred to walk in the first early committed suicide. | ||
| Oh, right, right, right at the last minute. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's all metal, so it didn't blow up anything. | ||
| It just blew himself up. | ||
| What's interesting is that when you ask for these statistics, it's like there's no left-wing violent attacks. | ||
| I see that a lot. | ||
| I think there is a certain degree of when things haven't gone fatal. | ||
| Perhaps it's just been an attack on the street. | ||
| These things either don't go reported or like I've seen it by myself at like political rallies in the UK that a leftist might throw something at someone off a rock and it might hit someone that might get hurt, but they don't actually report it to the police because they're like, fix skin. | ||
| I want to handle this myself. | ||
| I don't trust the police. | ||
| I'm not going to file it. | ||
| So it'd be interesting to see the real numbers just behind this sort of low-level violence in the streets. | ||
| Yeah, you watch Nick Shirley's video when he tracked the ICE raid in Minneapolis and they were going through the street and people were like pelting the cops with like trash and rocks and that sort of thing. | ||
| But since it was such a chaotic environment and ICE was just doing an operation, they're getting in and getting out. | ||
| There's not like a huge federal police presence. | ||
| They couldn't make arrest. | ||
| So all of those, I mean, maybe they followed up on it. | ||
| I'm sure they did. | ||
| But at least for what the public knows, all that wasn't counted. | ||
| It's like if you started counting all of these like just attacks on officers that are taking place during these ICE raids that we're seeing being documented, it would be outstanding the amount of leftist violence that's been. | ||
| The cancel woman who punched one of the agents. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| She's got in trouble. | ||
| I forget her name. | ||
| Lamonica McIver. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| New Jersey. | ||
| So that's another, you know what I mean? | ||
| Like, like, can we just stress this when we're, when, when we blame Gavin Newsom for his rhetoric and then the ICE terror attack, can we just point out like a Democrat in Congress punched a federal law enforcement agent, like literally punched him on camera, I think more than once. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So when they're, I'm just, I don't understand. | ||
| Like, why are we, I'm not even, I'm not even, I don't even, I'm not talking to these people. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| They're coming on there being like, no, you understand. | ||
| We are not for this. | ||
| Like, shut up. | ||
| You elected this woman. | ||
| She went and punched a guy and then you lied and claimed she didn't. | ||
| You put her on CNN and CNN claims she didn't. | ||
| And we all watched the video. | ||
| This is insane. | ||
| There's literally a slow-mo. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You can see the punch connect. | ||
| I don't know where that fish came from. | ||
| Punch is like a girl, by the way. | ||
| She does. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I mean, it makes sense. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So so far. | ||
| Are we at 20? | ||
| It's got to be close. | ||
| The list is actually really big when you include all of the Tesla stuff. | ||
| So right now, and this is not even, this is only like 10 minutes. | ||
| One, two, three. | ||
| We got three in January. | ||
| We got six. | ||
| March was crazy. | ||
| Seven, eight, nine, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 20. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| No, no, it's 24. | ||
| 24 just on this list so far. | ||
| Is it more than, actually, it's more than that. | ||
| 26. | ||
| Just on this list that I have so far is 26. | ||
| And I know it's missing some because I can think of more that it's not pointing out. | ||
| But I want to get this out there. | ||
| We need to make a comprehensive list because when you go through it, it's all leftist. | ||
| There's not a single instance that I can find of a Trump supporter going and committing some kind of terror. | ||
| It's pretty crazy. | ||
| Well, actually, not really crazy at all, if you think about it. | ||
| It's all leftists. | ||
| And it's in line exactly with the Liberal Democratic Party. | ||
| Hey, we have a statement from Comey here. | ||
| Let's play it. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| There's Comey. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| That's a statement. | ||
| He's got makeup. | ||
| My family and I have known for years that there are costs to standing up to Donald Trump, but we couldn't imagine ourselves living any other way. | ||
| We will not live on our knees, and you shouldn't either. | ||
| Somebody that I love dearly recently said that fear is the tool of a tyrant, and she's right. | ||
| But I'm not afraid. | ||
| And I hope you're not either. | ||
| I hope instead you are engaged, you are paying attention, and you will vote like your beloved country depends upon it, which it does. | ||
| He's right. | ||
| My heart is broken for the Department of Justice. | ||
| Everything he said so far. | ||
| But I have great confidence in the federal judicial system, and I'm innocent. | ||
| So let's have a trial and keep the faith. | ||
| Cut out the I'm innocent and let's have a trial, the whole statement. | ||
| I could ascribe that to Trump and everyone would agree with it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, the fact that he's blaming it on Trump when it was a grand jury, right? | ||
| Like this isn't right. | ||
| This isn't a directive by Donald Trump to say, go get that guy. | ||
| They presented evidence to a grand jury and the grand jury said, okay, we think that there's enough evidence here to indict. | ||
| So, I mean, look, if he feels comfortable going to trial, then, you know, bully for him. | ||
| But it'll go to trial and we'll see what an actual jury says. | ||
| What other option does he have other than kind of letting it go to trial? | ||
| That's his best, it's the most pragmatic thing. | ||
| Not going to go out and say, I'm not innocent. | ||
| He's going to fight his case. | ||
| They were really happy when the grand juries didn't indict other people. | ||
| They were like, yeah, then he get indicted because they were wrong. | ||
| Well, he got indicted, like you said. | ||
| So something going on there. | ||
| You know, I hope everybody goes out and votes like their country depends on it because Comey is right. | ||
| What Comey did, these people are abject evil. | ||
| And my only fear in all of this is that Trump is not Superman. | ||
| My fear is that Donald Trump is actually a bit of a hothead. | ||
| And I think he is motivated largely by personal interest. | ||
| And we need to win. | ||
| If people like Comey and Nazilk get power once again, they are going to destroy this country. | ||
| And that's an understatement. | ||
| I hope you guys like Breaking Rocks because we've seen the way these people talk. | ||
| We saw what they tried to do. | ||
| We saw what they literally did. | ||
| They put Trump's lawyers in jail. | ||
| They said, if you even try to defend Trump, we will send you to prison. | ||
| The fact that they went after his lawyers should be something that makes people take notice, right? | ||
| Obviously, the far left, they're going to say, well, it was the right thing to do no matter what. | ||
| But the fact that they went after the people that are that he constitutionally has a right to a defense and the people that were there to provide that constitutionally protected right, they went after them and indicted them and charged them as co-conspirators. | ||
| That's beyond the pale. | ||
| So I don't, I don't. | ||
| And if they're willing to do that to Trump in a very public-facing way, imagine what would go on behind closed doors, right? | ||
| Like we see it in the UK, these cases, which they're not high-profile people. | ||
| They're just, you know, guys on the ground, individual activists being pressured into a guilty plea of stuff they didn't do, and their lives are ruined. | ||
| And they're kept in awful conditions, sometimes kept in solitary because the general population is so hostile towards them. | ||
| We've got a huge problem with Islamic gangs in the prisons in the UK. | ||
| And if they find out you're a far-right racist or whatever they want to call you, they will kill you. | ||
| So you're not just going to a normal prison, you're in solitary. | ||
| And that could be a reality here where the with J Sixers especially. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| All right, everybody, we're going to go to your chats and Rumble rants. | ||
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| But for now, we're going to grab your chats. | ||
| Before you jump to that, there's USA today about an hour ago was reporting that NORAD scrambled fighters to intercept Russian planes off of Alaska. | ||
| That happened yesterday, too. | ||
| I thought that was just an I thought that was an echo. | ||
| No, what do they call that in Minority Report? | ||
| Yeah, I forget what it's called, but yeah, it might have been an echo. | ||
| But yeah, so they're, they're, you know, there's all this talk about the, the, I think it's whatever, all of the top generals and their staff coming to Quantico next on the 30th. | ||
| And there's also talk of, you know, conflict with Russia. | ||
| Russia's foreign minister, Lavrov, I think his foreign minister Lavrov is his name, but he was saying that NATO and the United States are already in a war with Russia. | ||
| And he says that's a good question. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| But this is more just raising the tensions. | ||
| Oh, the pizza index is through the roof. | ||
| Yeah, they're. | ||
| Yeah, Hegseth has called in a meeting of all military personnel. | ||
| Like, let's go, baby. | ||
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All right. | |
| So maybe the stuff that's going on in the U.S. won't matter. | ||
| Maybe we'll have to. | ||
| All right. | ||
| We got this from P.S. Oopie. | ||
| He says, DJT needs to do an address over all this violence and division. | ||
| He needs to come out and just call this what it is. | ||
| He needs to open, transparent, and make it clear that now is a time for choosing. | ||
| The left is doing all the violence this whole year. | ||
| And when Trump comes out and says that the left is doing violence, they go, how could you accuse us? | ||
| You're so divisive. | ||
| It's like, well, because you guys are shooting people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's been good on the issue, like better than the entire GOP, quite frankly, on the issue. | ||
| Every time he's had to speak on, he specifically addresses leftist violence. | ||
| Meanwhile, just find a soundbite from your senator, your congressman. | ||
| They usually dance around at the road. | ||
| Political virtual. | ||
| Get out there and get in people's faces. | ||
| Would it be beneficial to America if he came out and said, yo, let's just relax. | ||
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Let's chill out a little bit, everyone. | |
| The right is already chilling and relaxing. | ||
| The left's killing. | ||
| The right is literally going to Trump, being like, please, Trump, just enforce the law. | ||
| And then they were like, best we can do is a commemorative coin. | ||
| When I was at the... | ||
| I'm sorry, I'm sorry. | ||
| That's a bad joke, by the way, because Trump's got these executive orders where he's saying, go after Antifa. | ||
| And I do like the idea of putting Charlie Kirk on a silver dollar side. | ||
| That'd be sweet. | ||
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| But I mean, like, when I was at the Charlie Cook Memorial on Sunday, speaking to people, all the speeches were like, we didn't burn down anything. | ||
| Look at the way we responded. | ||
| We responded in peace. | ||
| It's like, great. | ||
| And then people were expecting Trump to come out with something hard-hitting, and he really didn't. | ||
| But already, when I was speaking to it before, I'm like, do you think Trump's going to come out with anything? | ||
| They're like, no. | ||
| So they're already demoralized in that sense. | ||
| And they don't think J.D. Vance is even going to. | ||
| And these are the diehard people. | ||
| These are the people who are going to come to the events. | ||
| People flew from all over America to come here. | ||
| Some of them were pretty big donors. | ||
| And even they're like, he's not doing enough. | ||
| Trump had a Gettysburg opportunity. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He could have come out and said something very much like, you know, 250 years ago or whatever, several men fought against tyranny to birth this great nation, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| And then he could have said a young man was, but he kind of just went off the cuff and did his Trump thing. | ||
| It's like talking about autism, Tylenol. | ||
| Well, I mean, it's like we're talking about, we're discussing Civil War, all this sort of thing. | ||
| It's like the margin is actually kind of thin for Trump speechwriters. | ||
| Like, he has to actually be somewhat incisive with what he says because, you know, there's a lot of rider-dies. | ||
| Fins up says, it's not rumors. | ||
| I'm pretty certain he publicly announced he's going to have the DOJ looking at Soros. | ||
| I do not trust Bondi at all, though. | ||
| She seems easily bought or she's just noticeably dumb. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Maybe that's why Trump likes her because he bought her and she's dumb. | ||
| So he's like, do it. | ||
| And she goes, okay. | ||
| I don't think so, though. | ||
| I think they know she's good. | ||
| Mike Davis actually was tweeting about that. | ||
| He's like, she's got more balls than all of the guys in DC combined. | ||
| And Mike Davis is, I mean, I feel like he's a pretty straight shooter. | ||
| And like, at the end of the day, this is just an upgrade because they listen to Trump. | ||
| I mean, if you're new around here, we remember the first term, how that went. | ||
| It's like, hey, these people listen to Trump. | ||
| And then do you really want to go through another nomination process just to get someone that's going to be just as effective or whatever you think should happen? | ||
| Leatherhead says, did anyone else see Alex Jones' channel is already deleted in YouTube? | ||
| Indeed, as well as Nick Funtes's. | ||
| And then YouTube issued a statement saying, wait, wait, we said we were going to unban people, but not yet. | ||
| And so I think they're actually lying and sent that letter to Jim Jordan just so that he would shut up. | ||
| And he posts it. | ||
| And they're like, oops. | ||
| All right. | ||
| St. Miles says, Trump will have set the precedent to go after Democrats should they ever come into power. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Yeah, that makes a good point. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Finz Up says, the difference is you have money to protect yourself and your family. | ||
| ICE agents don't have that same luxury. | ||
| Off the clock, they're on their own. | ||
| On the clock, their family isn't safe. | ||
| That's a great point. | ||
| How much money do you want in exchange for someone threatening to murder your wife and child and hunt you down and flay you alive? | ||
| How much money? | ||
| You give me that number. | ||
| I will give it to you and I will quit right now. | ||
| You let me know. | ||
| And then we can have you guys, like, this is insane. | ||
| The idea that there's any amount of money that anyone would accept to take these death threats is just, you know what? | ||
| Maybe y'all are right because it seems to be the general opinion that everybody has. | ||
| The money is worth it to have to live in a box. | ||
| They've been saying this stupid argument for years and it makes zero sense. | ||
| Max says, Tim, you're wrong. | ||
| These guys aren't like you. | ||
| They can't afford 24-7 security like you can to protect their family. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| My 24-7 security is myself. | ||
| Let's try this. | ||
| I will give someone $1 million. | ||
| We'll make it a game show. | ||
| And then we have the entirety of the left. | ||
| There will be, you know, I don't know, 3,000 people online in any given day saying they're coming for you to kill you and posting your address, going on shows, lying about you. | ||
| And your goal is to figure out how to use that. | ||
| Oh, guess what? | ||
| All that money, it's going toward your torture security. | ||
| Your movement is restricted. | ||
| You can't travel. | ||
| You can't go to funerals, but it's okay because, you know, you have the money, I guess. | ||
| Was the money worth it? | ||
| I'm pretty sure that if you go to the average person and say, we're going to give you a million dollars, but you'll be hunted down and everyone will be trying to kill you. | ||
| They're probably going to be like, no, I don't know that I want that. | ||
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I don't know. | |
| Some people might say yes and then immediately be like, the sword of Gamacles was too great and I regret my decision. | ||
| But I am seeing a lot of this, and I will make this wager with all of you. | ||
| I will donate all of my money to charity and quit tonight. | ||
| If that's genuinely how everyone feels. | ||
| Because I got to tell you, I am perfectly happy living in a bungalow. | ||
| I say van down by the room. | ||
| Now I'll say a bungalow down by the river. | ||
| I don't need that much money. | ||
| I can pay a couple grand mortgage, and I can easily do behind the scenes social media marketing work for, I don't know, 90,000 a year somewhere and be perfectly happy playing online poker or something. | ||
| You shouldn't let the chat decide because the chat is full of trolls. | ||
| These aren't people trolling. | ||
| These are routine super chatters saying that I should accept that because I have money, I should have to live under the threat of death from the far left on a regular basis when I would much prefer not to have that risk at all. | ||
| And I'm being told that our own law enforcement who chose to go into direct conflict with terrorists should be afforded more protections than I. Or maybe that's not a fair assessment, but that I should accept the circumstances and the money that comes along with it will pay for the security while I'm restricted from, | ||
| man, when I was working for, like, when I was working for some of these other companies, like Vice, for instance, I got to fly, I was on a flight twice a week and 60,000 followers or whatever, getting paid six figures. | ||
| I didn't have anything to worry about. | ||
| I don't think people understand that. | ||
| But Charlie Kirk is dead. | ||
| He died. | ||
| They killed him. | ||
| You know? | ||
| You do it because you love it, though, right? | ||
| Like, you do it because you feel like you have a sense of duty to speak about things. | ||
| And like, you know, from the moment you put your face out there, you know what the political climate's like. | ||
| You know that somebody's going to come and target you. | ||
| And that's something that you have to accept, I think. | ||
| I think like, you know, the money and everything aside and like the sort of notoriety, whatever, of course, past a certain point, you don't want to exchange your freedom for that and your sort of your personal safety. | ||
| But I think you knew coming into the game when you first decided to go and speak out, you were going to go get some backlash. | ||
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Right. | |
| You didn't? | ||
| No. | ||
| When I went fully. | ||
| I didn't start this as a partisan. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| I mean, initially, but when you did kind of cross the Rubicon, so to speak, so I remember that when I used to watch you. | ||
| But took that transition, you must have. | ||
| There was no transition. | ||
| You must have. | ||
| Well, like, you weren't explicitly pro-Trump initially, right? | ||
| Correct? | ||
| Like, you saw the responses, people calling for Trump stuff even prior to his election. | ||
| You saw the response from the left towards these sort of more conservative pundits, people who were aligned with Trump. | ||
| You knew that they were vicious. | ||
| I went skating at MLK Plaza in Berkeley and Antifud posted my picture on forum saying that I was a Trump supporter, whether I was or I wasn't. | ||
| I didn't go online and make videos saying, here's what's going on and here's how the news media works, so that Antifa would post my image and threaten to beat me up. | ||
| And then a bunch of people threatened to attack me until one guy said, lay off him and don't start fights at the skate park. | ||
| But I mean, just being in the public realm in general, people like, well, like, someone killed John Lennon, right? | ||
| Like, John Lennon, right, but maybe it's not the best example because it's political side, but people will try and like kill celebrities for family society. | ||
| Being in the public eye, I suppose it does come with a certain level of calculated risk. | ||
| I don't think when Charlie Kirk walked out in Orem, he didn't think he was going to die. | ||
| I think he was fully prepared to. | ||
| I mean, they showed at the memorial, he said, thy will be done. | ||
| To God, thy will be done. | ||
| It was very religious thing. | ||
| Right, but he was willing to die for that. | ||
| That's why he remained on college campuses, despite having this multi-multi-million dollar organization, which was able to. | ||
| That's kind of a crazy thought if you think about it. | ||
| Like, he was willing to die, and his wife and children were also there as well in this area where he has to have security is a great risk to him and his family for what he was willing to do. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And that's. | ||
| I wish more people were willing to do that, to be cool, honest. | ||
| Well, I mean, I feel like it's incredibly hard thing to do, but those are the people who move civilization on. | ||
| The founding fathers. | ||
| Everyone has something to lose, right? | ||
| You have to go across the Rubicon. | ||
| You have to be a man of action. | ||
| Have to accept that I'm going to do something that is potentially going to make my life and the people I love's life very, very difficult. | ||
| But my love for my country, my love for my cause is far exceeds that. | ||
| I think that's the position. | ||
| Like the founding fathers, yeah, very United States. | ||
| Who most of them were very young men. | ||
| I think the average age of founding fathers is 22, something like that. | ||
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No, no, no, no. | |
| Yeah, it was like late 20s, early 30s. | ||
| But Ben Frank was a little older, and then there were some younger guys. | ||
| This one was like 18 or something. | ||
| But there were some of the founding fathers, their children were captured. | ||
| One guy's wife was taken from him. | ||
| One guy's kid betrayed the family to serve the crown. | ||
| And, you know, there are men in this country who know that they will step into the fray and this will put not only their lives at risk, but their blood, treasure, honor, and family. | ||
| That's what the founding fathers were willing to do. | ||
| I wish we had more men like that in this country. | ||
| I think it's a very Christian thing. | ||
| It's a very Christian thing of being able to, you're willing to die, and this is the whole death to the world thing. | ||
| It's easier said than done. | ||
| But you don't do things that will increase your risk of death. | ||
| Perhaps you do. | ||
| I mean, that's what St. Paul did. | ||
| That's what the apostles did. | ||
| They went out 11 of them died. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They were persecuted. | ||
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I know. | |
| It's a horrible thing. | ||
| No one should ever do anything that's going to put their wives and child at risk. | ||
| Even if they're law enforcement, they should wear masks. | ||
| There's supposed to be some unit class of people who are that politics is reserved for them because they don't have any attachments. | ||
| This sort of like. | ||
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Yes. | |
| These guys that are in ICE should wear masks and hide so that their families are not put at risk. | ||
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Well, yeah. | |
| I mean, otherwise you're not going to get people to do the job. | ||
| I mean, Trump has come in on a policy. | ||
| Some men are not willing to risk their honor, family, or otherwise. | ||
| I'm in the UK. | ||
| I get ads to join ICE every single day. | ||
| I'm not even able to because I'm not a resident here, but they clearly don't have enough manpower, right? | ||
| To do this and already drop that manpower. | ||
| And the fact that a lot of the reason that the deportations aren't going as high as they hoped is I think it's a manpower issue. | ||
| That's why they're doing such a massive recruitment drive. | ||
| That's why they're doing that 50K signing bonus. | ||
| Trump needs to deliver on his electoral. | ||
| Yeah, 50K signing bonus. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And I think what's an ad for ICE now. | ||
| I think people are saying that the logic there then that should be made obvious to everybody is we do not have men of action in this country. | ||
| The people, the reason why we need masks for ICE is because these men actually don't want to do the job. | ||
| They do not want to fight for their country. | ||
| They simply want the paycheck and they're unwilling to take any risks to themselves, their family. | ||
| They just want the money. | ||
| I don't think they're going to be back on that. | ||
| They're putting their lives on the line. | ||
| They're going into like drug dens. | ||
| They're going why offer them $50,000 to do that. | ||
| Like, why do you need to offer $50,000 to somebody to come and take this job to do it? | ||
| Economy is terrible. | ||
| People got to get food on the table still. | ||
| They got to be able to provide for their families. | ||
| My point is it's pretty dang simple. | ||
| If you're like, listen, I won't do this if there's any risk at all. | ||
| And I want $50,000. | ||
| It sounds like you are not someone who says, for my country. | ||
| Well, they're still taking on a lot of risks. | ||
| The masks are so they can still do their jobs. | ||
| Like, it would be terrible. | ||
| It's more, it would be just terrible for ICE if their agents kept getting mowed down because they're not masking. | ||
| Like, it's like we're trying to get a job done. | ||
| We're trying to get all the illegals out, and masking helps push that goal forward. | ||
| That helps us get closer. | ||
| That helps us move the ball down the field. | ||
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Right. | |
| I'm just pointing out that if someone says, I don't want to do the job, how about 50 grand? | ||
| Sure, I'll do it, but can I wear a mask that no one knows who I am? | ||
| It's like, that's not somebody who's like, America will stand for eternity. | ||
| Well, I mean, that's protocol. | ||
| I mean, right now, like, I don't think it's a choice of the individual to not wear a mask. | ||
| I might be completely wrong, but I imagine that's a different argument. | ||
| I imagine right now it's protocol, but even if you do, like 50% of these guys, they are willing to have their face out there, take those risks, you're still going to diminish the force which is needed to go and get the job done. | ||
| Do you agree with what I'm saying? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm saying even masks are not, that's still like a very noble thing. | ||
| I'm not saying literally every ICE officer hates this country and is looking for money. | ||
| I'm saying the officers that don't want the job but were offered 50 grand and said, okay, I'll take it, but let me wear a mask are the people who are just in it for the job. | ||
| I don't think that's a good idea. | ||
| I think they're people that that's just what gets them over the edge. | ||
| But I think signing up for ICE, period. | ||
| I'm not even trying to like do a raw raw chest beating to like dunk on people. | ||
| I'm just saying legitimately joining ICE as like a decision is very noble because it's an inherently dangerous job for the same reason police officers. | ||
| Like I don't think, I don't think it's like a terrible thing that the NYPD has a little bit better incentives. | ||
| Like makes sense. | ||
| It's a very dangerous city to work in. | ||
| Like you got to reward people for like the risk they're taking. | ||
| I mean, I understand, but it's also ICE is like not joining ICE is not great for your lifestyle. | ||
| Like you usually have to move to some pretty nasty communities oftentimes. | ||
| What is most offensive to me about the general conversation is that, you know, I stumbled into this when I started making videos and doing this, I wasn't making money doing it. | ||
| I was losing money. | ||
| I left ABC Univision and I had savings and I was losing money to cover these stories to, you know, travel to travel to Sweden was a massive loss. | ||
| Then I started making YouTube videos at a massive loss. | ||
| I started getting threats from Antifa on the far left the whole time, losing money. | ||
| And it wasn't until like a year and a half later I finally cracked into the black and I was even. | ||
| And then I started working really, really hard and making more money. | ||
| And then with that, I had to hire more people, eventually bring on, you know, security. | ||
| Then I had to move, get away from the cities, all of which were ancillary to me just speaking out. | ||
| And then I'm told that, and this happens all the time, how lucky I am for it. | ||
| When I'm like, I just wanted to fucking live in a van down by the river, dude. | ||
| But so, like, why did you do that? | ||
| Why did you change your uproot your whole life? | ||
| Do this in the red. | ||
| What was the rationale towards that? | ||
| Like, why? | ||
| Because I don't care about money. | ||
| I care about country. | ||
| Okay, so you put the country before the money, but did you not also consider like and other people won't? | ||
| And I'm told I should have to while other people don't. | ||
| I ask for a few good men to stand up, wave the flag, and say, I will die for my country. | ||
| And then I'm told, no, Tim, no, Tim, you're wrong. | ||
| Other people shouldn't have to do that. | ||
| No one should take a risk. | ||
| They should do a job and get paid 50 grand to do it. | ||
| And I'm like, okay, maybe I shouldn't do this. | ||
| This is not taking risk. | ||
| They're just guys with a very simple job, which is risk to them is substantially less in the broad sense. | ||
| In the immediacy of the job of ICE, they face tremendous risk that I do not, which I have tremendous respect for, which is why they carry guns. | ||
| They have armor, protocol, APCs, helicopters, all that good stuff. | ||
| And that is an incredibly important job, and I'm glad people are doing it. | ||
| If the argument is in the greater sense, I should be willing to accept threats and death threats and all that stuff. | ||
| My simple statement was: maybe I shouldn't do this. | ||
| I'll make an AI channel with a VTOR. | ||
| But I mean, so, like, these ICE guys are still, part of that risk is they get doxxed, right? | ||
| They're wearing masks on the job, but there is still a risk that, you know, someone speaks to somebody else. | ||
| He's an ICE officer and his dock still gets out there. | ||
| That risk is still there. | ||
| Wearing that mask is just risk mitigation. | ||
| The same way that if you have security, that's risk mitigation. | ||
| Which is completely agreed. | ||
| They're still putting themselves out there. | ||
| Completely agreed, point taken. | ||
| And my point is, like me, Benny, Ruben, we should all ice our channels, make new ones. | ||
| That's what we want to do. | ||
| Okay, let me finish. | ||
| Ice our channels, make AI personas, masked, no names, they can share these messages. | ||
| The message is successful and we'll reach a broader audience, but then no one will know who we are and we'll be safe. | ||
| If that's what you wanted to do, I'm sure you could do that today. | ||
| Charlie Kirk would be alive, right? | ||
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He would. | |
| And would he have the same impact? | ||
| Would he have reached as many people? | ||
| No. | ||
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No. | |
| Of course not. | ||
| People buy ideas from people. | ||
| People want that parasocial relationship of, you know, going and watching your show, feeling like they know you, kind of growing that thought process with you, consuming the news at the same time as you. | ||
| That's a human interaction. | ||
| Like AI and faceless content can't replace that. | ||
| These guys have successfully been able to do that. | ||
| Think there is a personality that got into this for the well, I don't think there's a personality on the right that got into this business hoping to form parasocial relationships with people so that people would like them and follow them. | ||
| No, no, no, of course not. | ||
| That's not the intended effect. | ||
| On the left, I think that's basically all of that. | ||
| But I mean, like, like you see, when you were trying to get into the black, as you were discussing earlier, you were one, you obviously needed to work harder. | ||
| What are working harder consistently? | ||
| I imagine it's putting out more content, putting higher quality content out, and also sort of building your persona as an online figure, putting out more tweets, putting out more content. | ||
| Because that parasocial relationship that you create then leads to success, right? | ||
| Whether you're aware of that or not, that is the reality, right? | ||
| People know Tim Poole, right? | ||
| They want to hear your opinion on things. | ||
| They value you as an university. | ||
| I understand that. | ||
| I'm not saying you wanted that parasocial relationship from a new person. | ||
| I'm not just going to be able to do that. | ||
| I am no Charlie Kirk. | ||
| I am no Donald Trump. | ||
| I am no J.D. Vance. | ||
| I don't want to be in charge. | ||
| I don't want to be a leader. | ||
| I don't want to run for office. | ||
| I don't want to have an organization backing me with tons of people. | ||
| I just have ideas and I wanted to talk about what I see. | ||
| And largely, I wanted to complain about how the media lies to everybody all the time and correct that. | ||
| And that's what I wanted to do. | ||
| And it is getting increasingly dangerous. | ||
| And I think that may be a principal component why I probably get more death threats than most other people is that I pull up the sources on every story, we break it down and then explain why this is fake from the mainstream media. | ||
| With no disrespect to the conservative side, they're largely just proselytizing conservative values, which is very effective and good for their side. | ||
| And I'm not saying it disrespectfully, but as a threat to the left, it is much less threatening when a man in a suit says, you know, Christ is king, here's why. | ||
| And they say, that's not going to sway any of our people. | ||
| But when I, an urban liberal from Chicago, say, here's the Wall Street Journal and the Hollywood Reporter proving the FCC did not play a role, a principal role in taking down Jimmy Kimmel and the narrative from the left is fake, they go, he's our shit up. | ||
| So kill him. | ||
| And then so, you know, I am wholly jealous to seeing how many people got to go to Charlie's Memorial. | ||
| And I'm like, I can't. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| Because the death threats. | ||
| There were like so many high-profile people there. | ||
| That's security. | ||
| Yeah, some of them had Secret Service level security and were backstage. | ||
| I was not afforded that privilege. | ||
| You could have gone to the floor at least. | ||
| Like there was security all over there. | ||
| I did not have. | ||
| Carl Rittenhouse. | ||
| I did not have. | ||
| I have a security team. | ||
| I have a security team that did an assessment that determined that the threats were legit and too serious for me to go to Phoenix. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Well, there were guys on the floor who didn't have any Carl Rittenhouse just walking about on that's amazing. | ||
| What's your security experience? | ||
| Well, I mean, I used to work in the security industry. | ||
| You're former military and intelligence. | ||
| You've got a team of like-I used to work with a company which did CPO tasks. | ||
| There would have been a risk assessment if that's the risk. | ||
| And the risk assessment was that you can't go in and fair enough. | ||
| You recommend against travel. | ||
| Because certainly the event is secure, but we can't secure the city. | ||
| So we can confine you to your hotel. | ||
| That's the smartest and best way to do it. | ||
| And I said, that sounds miserable. | ||
| And they were like, you still have the threat risks from transport to and from. | ||
| We're going to bring food to your hotel. | ||
| We're going to check that for you. | ||
| And I'm like, this is crazy. | ||
| I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to. | ||
| Yeah, but I'm saying, like, you would have been able to, but it wouldn't have been a nice holiday. | ||
| You wouldn't have been able to go out and go to a bar and go have a drink. | ||
| Like, I completely get that. | ||
| Yeah, and it's like 30 grand to do. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's, I can't afford it. | ||
| Which is abhorrent, right? | ||
| That's the reality that we live in in America and in the West in general now. | ||
| And that's a very sad thing, but it shouldn't deter you. | ||
| And do you have $30,000 for me to hire security so I can do shit like that? | ||
| No, but I feel like if you, if you have the resources to do it and you feel like it matters, well, that's kind of a personal adjustment call, I guess, at that point. | ||
| It's not. | ||
| When we went to Des Moines, we were there with Vivek and I think Candace. | ||
| That cost $50,000, $60,000 in security. | ||
| We had swatted 15 times, and I think people don't realize this. | ||
| It never stopped. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We just have security now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We've got a security perimeter. | ||
| We have armed guards. | ||
| We have other security that I don't discuss. | ||
| We're getting robot dogs. | ||
| I heard that was in the works. | ||
| I'm excited. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm not trying to downplay the threat to your life, but I'm saying that if you kind of let them confine you to your spot, I feel maybe it's just kind of my defiance and I don't have a family in the way that you do. | ||
| That they win. | ||
| If you stop going to places, they win. | ||
| They're getting what they want, that threat level that's stopping you from meeting people, being on the ground. | ||
| No, what they want is for him to stop talking. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So him continuing to do the show is making sure that they don't win. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But at the same time, they don't want you to continue to be out mingling with people where you could get further organized. | ||
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| I think they want me to because that's where they can kill me. | ||
| He gets the most off of online through YouTube and Rumble. | ||
| His furthest reaches. | ||
| I don't think I get the most votes of everybody obviously. | ||
| Trump is. | ||
| No, no, I'm just saying more like that. | ||
| On the corner of a street on Charlestown on a soapbox, you get more influence here than you do. | ||
| There's a reason why I mostly just hang out casinos. | ||
| And people are always like, you know, I know not everybody, but people are like, oh, Tim's talking about going to the casino. | ||
| Yeah, it's because I don't die there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's because pretty much the only place that I can sit down and mind my own business is a casino. | ||
| Because they all know me. | ||
| Typically, when you're a high-profile individual, you walk into any casino, security immediately flags you, and they got cameras everywhere. | ||
| So when I go to a casino, I can walk around without security and have to worry about it. | ||
| But when I go out in the street, you just don't know. | ||
| I mean, the incidents that people knew about, we had that year where we were swatted 15 notable times. | ||
| That wasn't the total amount that we actually had to deal with it. | ||
| People think that means cops are kicking our door every time. | ||
| It doesn't. | ||
| It meant that the cop were doing sweeps basically all the time. | ||
| One credible threat resulted in us evacuating the studio for three hours. | ||
| And everyone remember it was chair cast and it was 40,000 people watching in an empty room. | ||
| And then at one point, you see the little dog walk in and they did the bomb sweep. | ||
| And there are locations that we've tried to obfuscate through your typical legal means, which I won't get into detail on, but owning property through obfuscation to prevent security. | ||
| And they found us. | ||
| And we got swatted there and armed men with rifles came, surrounded the building. | ||
| And this is like, it's an incessant, constant thing. | ||
| We've had, I think, three instances of the bomb squad deploying robots because the tactics they use, there are means by which I shouldn't get into the full details. | ||
| Let me just put it simply that there are ways that these people use that force evacuations and bomb squads, legitimate, credible threats. | ||
| And we had people who are leaking information to anti-fund, far-leftists, infiltrators, really, really crazy, crazy shit. | ||
| And it's not stopped. | ||
| We just pay more and more money to deal with it. | ||
| Well, I think going back to what we were saying before is that, you know, they want you to stop. | ||
| I think it is kind of making your quality of life so bad that you have to leave the house with masses about armed security and do all these like risk assessments before going anywhere. | ||
| And then at some point you might go, well, I kind of just want a normal life with my wife and kids. | ||
| You know, like that, that is what it is. | ||
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So but it's also like it's incredibly difficult. | |
| I don't envy you at all. | ||
| Don't layer on top of it the stop whining, Tim, you're rich. | ||
| Layer on top of it, stop being a little bitch. | ||
| The cost of these things are far higher than the average person anticipates, I think. | ||
| And I'd much rather live in a van down by the river. | ||
| Now I got a wife and a child, and we're, you know, there's going to be some more coming soon. | ||
| And so bungalow, middle of nowhere, some chickens. | ||
| I could do online work and easily, If I was doing standard marketing stuff, I'd probably make half a million a year working four hours a day. | ||
| With my understanding of internet structures and all that stuff, I could easily do consulting work and probably make way more doing something else than this. | ||
| And so the challenge is always, and as it has been, the intense security risk that we face is a tremendous stress. | ||
| And it's not just me, but largely my wife and trying to deal with a new baby. | ||
| And so one of the reasons why I'm going to be 40 and just had my first kid is exactly all the problems that I've discussed. | ||
| And then the challenging thing in all of this, and let me just be a whiny little bitch because I don't care what people think. | ||
| That's why I, unlike many other people, often just literally say exactly what I'm thinking, much to my own detriment. | ||
| But people will make comments and it doesn't mean all that much to me when people rag on me on the internet. | ||
| I got millions of followers. | ||
| But to point out, the people who have been constantly chatting things like stop being a little baby, Tim, start having a family, what's wrong with you, all of those kinds of comments, supposedly coming from people who are supposed to be on my side when the reason we're strained and struggling to do it is because people are trying to murder me. | ||
| And it's maybe we quit, shut it all down. | ||
| That way we can have a family and live a normal life. | ||
| Or we have to try and figure out how we balance making enough money to cover the cost of security so that we can live somewhere where we're not going to be murdered. | ||
| And then it is incredibly difficult to do that. | ||
| And so I've said it before. | ||
| You know, my wife's attitude is probably just, when are you going to quit so we can stop having to worry about dying all the time? | ||
| And I don't know. | ||
| It's like you layer on that there's a tremendous respect for all the people who join the Discord server, who are members, who do watch every single day, who buy the products we promote, who are very much into it. | ||
| And I look at that and it's not a human thing. | ||
| You know, when I see coffee sales, I go, wow, did you guys know we did 2 million in Casper sales last year? | ||
| That's not profit. | ||
| That's total sales. | ||
| Still really good. | ||
| And then I'm like, people really believe in us and care about what we do. | ||
| And that number is, it means a lot. | ||
| But it is just a number. | ||
| It's not an individual saying, you know, we respect you and appreciate what you do. | ||
| I do get those as well. | ||
| Don't get me wrong. | ||
| So largely what we have in terms of encouragement is knowing that when people believe in us, they watch our shows, they buy our products, they're saying, keep doing what you're doing, don't give up. | ||
| And that tremendously outweighs the negativity. | ||
| But the negativity is there, the stop being a pussy bitch, Tim. | ||
| What do you have to worry about? | ||
| You're rich. | ||
| And coming from like accounts that I know and, you know, insulting me and like not having a kid soon enough and me trying. | ||
| I would argue that most of the PR advice that I get from people is to pretend, fake it and shut up. | ||
| And that's why when you watch any other show, they never talk like I'm talking now. | ||
| No one will say this stuff. | ||
| You're the only person who does. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And I get, it's bad for me, I guess. | ||
| Because what works business-wise in media, there's a couple of big strategies. | ||
| One, it's be fake. | ||
| Make a plastic persona that exists on camera and then be completely different off camera. | ||
| Whoever you are on camera is not who you are behind. | ||
| Once you're off, you go, you hide. | ||
| And I'm like, well, I don't know. | ||
| I don't really do that. | ||
| The other thing is who you are doesn't matter. | ||
| Say whatever you have to say to get clicks. | ||
| And that's principally the left. | ||
| That's what they do. | ||
| There are a few people on the right who have been going real ham at it lately, especially the Charlie Kirk conspiracies. | ||
| The views they're getting are massive. | ||
| But, you know, long story short, I get emotional when people are like, you know, you should experience the death threats and the risk to your family, which is 1,000 times greater than the average person, even in law enforcement. | ||
| And I'm like, I respect what law enforcement does tremendously. | ||
| I understand the threats against them. | ||
| But I just wish more people were willing to be like, I will not be threatened in that way. | ||
| But anyway, we're going to go to the uncensored portion of the show. | ||
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| Yeah, if we can shout out our Twitter with FlagForce UK, that's our organization. | ||
| We've been putting up flags across the country. | ||
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| Was she fighting with Anna? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Jillian Michaels stormed off of this is this is the PBD women's show, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Gosh. | |
| Ladies. | ||
| Ladies, wait, is this like... | ||
| It had to be over Israel. | ||
| It had to be Israel. | ||
| I'm. | ||
| A real class player. | ||
| I'm ready. | ||
| Just. | ||
| We need. | ||
| I need a symbol of Timcast IRL. | ||
| What do we have? | ||
| The UFO. | ||
| Phil. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| The UFO. | ||
| I'm going to give it to you. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I can't. | ||
| I can't with this. | ||
| All of the security stuff was one thing, but this is too much for me. | ||
| I don't want to be a part of this interview. | ||
| I don't know why Anna is taking on. | ||
| The Kirk is being conflated right now. | ||
| There are conspiracy theorists who think Israel killed Charlie Kirk. | ||
| They have yet to provide a shred of evidence proving that. | ||
| Done. | ||
| End of the world. | ||
| We're not talking about that. | ||
| I am talking about something entirely talking about it. | ||
| No, hold on. | ||
| Let me finish my fing thought. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| The real issue here is that before most people even knew that Charlie Kirk was dead, you have Netanyahu giving multiple interviews talking about how, oh, using the fing moment for his own political purposes, like the fing fool that he is. | ||
| Let me finish my point. | ||
| Him killing Charlie Kirk. | ||
| Did I not just said that? | ||
| I literally just gonna make sure that you're gonna get a ton of money. | ||
| Let me finish my point, Jillian, because none of us can finish the damn point without someone else jumping down your throat. | ||
| I don't think that Israel killed him because there's no evidence of that. | ||
| But I had a problem with Netanyahu exploiting an assassination in this country for his own political means and purposes and lying about the nature of his relationship with Charlie Kirk because Charlie Kirk didn't like Netanyahu. | ||
| Just like any warm-blooded American shouldn't. | ||
| Netanyahu is a bad guy. | ||
| And he wanted to make it seem like, no, we were all great. | ||
| We were good. | ||
| We had a great relationship. | ||
| Little did we know behind the scenes all mean about how do we bash Israel? | ||
| This is not I'm not interested in this. | ||
| Okay, I know. | ||
| I know. | ||
| I'm with Jillian. | ||
| This is Israel. | ||
| Let me know genocide. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Okay. | ||
| I fundamentally disagree with you about every show doing this. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
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Cool. | |
| That kind of is how every normal person feels about people that have strong opinions about Israel. | ||
| But it's like I'm with Jillian actually. | ||
| Like if every single conversation you just bring up Israel, I'm going to be like, you know, to be fair, I wouldn't quit on the spot. | ||
| I'd be like, you're doing Israel again? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Let me know when you guys rap. | ||
| I'm going to grab a coffee. | ||
| And then I'd get up and walk out. | ||
| And they'd be like, whoa, you walked out of Israel. | ||
| Well, I mean, we talk about it every single night. | ||
| I don't think you need to hear my thoughts on it again because I'm just going to say the same thing. | ||
| I largely don't know. | ||
| I'm not super interested. | ||
| I'm going to go grab a coffee. | ||
| We get the same thing here. | ||
| Like, people constantly are saying, you know, like, how come you're not talking about this? | ||
| How come you're not talking about this with Israel? | ||
| Blah, blah, blah. | ||
| It's like, IRL is a topical show. | ||
| We talk about the news of the day. | ||
| If Israel is not in the news, that's literally why we fucking don't talk about it. | ||
| It's not just that. | ||
| And it's never enough. | ||
| Russia's in the news. | ||
| We didn't talk about Russia. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| Israel, there was some news about it. | ||
| It's because we're talking about domestic issues that affect the American people. | ||
| I mean, I think the one clip which gets you guys the most flack is the one where you're talking about Epstein. | ||
| You said he's working for the Canadian. | ||
| That's fake. | ||
| That's a fake clip. | ||
| Of course. | ||
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Is it? | |
| Yep. | ||
| I had no idea. | ||
| And I thought, does me think about it? | ||
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Well, I'm assuming that's the one where it might look bad on the Saudis. | |
| It might look bad on the Qataris or something like that. | ||
| Oh, I think of a different one. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Yeah, that's the one where they're like, oh, Tim's Bolton paid for. | ||
| Because I mean, like, I personally think. | ||
| Oh, no, that's right. | ||
| I mean, I look at the Epstein thing and I go, yeah, well, he clearly has messaged connections. | ||
| My brain wouldn't jump to that. | ||
| It's a fake clip. | ||
| It's a fake clip because we played a clip. | ||
| Dan Bongino was on the show, and he said that Epstein was some kind of Middle Eastern intelligence. | ||
| And then we all started busting out laughing. | ||
| And I was like, oh, Middle Eastern, huh? | ||
| Oh, it was like a fake, there's a fake clip that's shared by the anti-Jew crowd where we're talking about the U.S. Liberty. | ||
| And I said something to Ian like, whether it's a false flag doesn't matter because the instance itself will be utilized by its supporters and denounced by its detractors. | ||
| So, and then they cut it and edit it in a way to where there's like a pause and we're like, you're like, you can't talk about that. | ||
| And they paused it for like a minute. | ||
| They put a fake pause in. | ||
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Right. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Ian brought U.S. Liberty. | ||
| Oh, be careful about that one. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| And then he was like, something about a false flag. | ||
| And I was like, right, the problem with false flags is supporters will always believe it and detractors will always deny it. | ||
| So the issue is it doesn't matter if it's actually a false flag because proving it won't change the minds of those that want to use it. | ||
| I mean, like, biological answer. | ||
| Like I said before, it's a topical show. | ||
| It's something from like 50 years ago really going to begin to change the American mind or either going to be relevant in today's politics. | ||
| Oh, people are constantly spamming the chat with USS Liberty. | ||
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Yeah, well, I mean, because it gets the reaction. | |
| Like, that's wrong. | ||
| And it is an important thing that did happen. | ||
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But I mean, like, there's enough people who have a hard time. | |
| That's Pakistan. | ||
| Huh? | ||
| That's Pakistan. | ||
| What's Pakistan? | ||
| The comments largely about Israel come from people from places like Pakistan and Qatar. | ||
| Well, I know. | ||
| I can look at it. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| So it's not all of them, but we can look at our analytics and we're like, oh, yeah, look at that. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| What I think is largely happening is and this is not just my opinion. | ||
| There have been reports on this. | ||
| One, there is the more conspiracy theory that Qatar is paying people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't think that's true. | ||
| And, you know, they inject me into their conflict when I asked Netanyahu if he had any evidence that was the case and he brushed it off. | ||
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Right. | |
| And then I was like, okay. | ||
| And then some pro-Israel outlet wrote, Tim Poole claimed Cutter is funding this. | ||
| And I was like, no, the fuck, I didn't. | ||
| I said, we have heard this claim. | ||
| Is there any proof you have that this is actually true? | ||
| But people don't know what journalism is anymore. | ||
| Like when I asked Elon, now that Antifa has been designated a terrorist organization, will you remove their accounts? | ||
| I had left and right saying, Tim, no, don't advocate. | ||
| And I'm like, I fucking asked a question. | ||
| Is he going to take enforcement action now that they're terrorists? | ||
| But people don't understand that distinction anymore. | ||
| So what I think is happening, there's been reporting. | ||
| There are people in India, Pakistan, Malaysia, et cetera, that watch American content on YouTube. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| And if it's anti-Israel, they're going to watch. | ||
| So there have been some personalities who I won't name that everybody keeps talking about how they've generated a large Middle Eastern audience. | ||
| And so they're careful about what they say that might be bad because you make a lot of money. | ||
| And then you take a look at the metrics and there are certain personalities that defy metrics. | ||
| And you're like, that's interesting. | ||
| The times they post, the views they get. | ||
| Yeah, it's probably because their audience is largely outside of the United States. | ||
| I think that's true of a lot of the comments on X. | ||
| And that's why we've all, like the America first people, have been saying Elon should create a country filter so that we're only getting opinions from people in the United States. | ||
| And then we'll know how many people actually care about Israel. | ||
| But I think the easiest piece of evidence as to how it's not America is that it's pretty fucking weird when like the news is Charlie Cook's assassination and then you get spam-blasted chats about Israel. | ||
| And you're like, guys, no one in this country is talking about Israel right now. | ||
| Why are you? | ||
| I mean, you've got the Nick Fuentes crowd as well. | ||
| I mean, like, he can generate hundreds of thousands of people who are like, who will, who are Americans largely, who will also post that. | ||
| So I think, I'm sure the numbers are like inflated between the Pakistan thing. | ||
| You think Fuentes' audience is all Americans? | ||
| No, no, no, of course not. | ||
| But I mean, even someone like Alex Jones, who's taken a very anti-Israel stance, Tucker to a degree as well, Candace Owens, like they have definitely changed the American right towards actually being like, hang on, Israel is a problem. | ||
| Why are we counting them? | ||
| I think there's two things. | ||
| TikTok has largely made Gen Z anti-Israel. | ||
| And I don't care. | ||
| Where do you think opinions come from, right? | ||
| It's the cultural systems and the media that we consume. | ||
| And TikTok, we have the data from October 7th into the end of October that it appeared there was an algorithmic switch which began to promote anti-Israel sentiment. | ||
| Following October 7th on TikTok, it was like 80% pro-Israel, 20% anti-Israel. | ||
| And then within the span of like two days, it inverted and increased tenfold on the anti-Israel side. | ||
| Do you think that was just because the engagement was higher? | ||
| That was indicative of an algorithmic change. | ||
| Do you think the algorithmic change was just like one of pure numbers where they're like people do engage with this stuff at moment? | ||
| Someone at TikTok would have to have pressed a button for those numbers to make sense. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| That was the general presumption. | ||
| Otherwise, I track all the algorithmic stuff on all the platforms. | ||
| We go over the reason why people say unalive is because we can see the direct results in everything we do and how it's impacted. | ||
| On YouTube, you can tell when they change the algorithm. | ||
| It's overnight. | ||
| Because any minor change dramatically affects everything about your channel. | ||
| It's never really slow. | ||
| And so the presumption is, and I don't think it's guaranteed fact, but the presumption is based on the switch, it looks like TikTok intervened and said, invert it. | ||
| This triggered Democrats to join Republicans. | ||
| Republicans initially were like, ban TikTok because it's censoring conservatives. | ||
| All of a sudden, Democrats got on board. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because TikTok went against Israel. | ||
| TikTok inverted the algorithm. | ||
| Democrats immediately flipped the fuck out. | ||
| And then we got a bipartisan ban of TikTok, all because they were trying to defend Israel. | ||
| And so, what ends up happening with TikTok is Trump ends up saying, no, let it stay because there's this, the presumption is there's this Republican billionaire who's an investor in it. | ||
| And it's like, don't ban it. | ||
| Let's just change it. | ||
| And so you have young people who have been on this platform that Democrats and Republicans intended to stop because it was anti-Israel have now been consuming media for two, three years off of this anti-Israel sentiment. | ||
| And now Gen Z is largely anti-Israel. | ||
| So when I look at Tucker and Candace and I see them, like Candace, for instance, is putting out a lot of these videos without directly saying it's Israel. | ||
| But the general sentiment everyone has is she's implying Israel did it. | ||
| It's because you have Gen Z that is 24% supports Israel. | ||
| So presumably it's like 70 or so that does not. | ||
| And then you have global audience, of which globally Israel is not that popular. | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| So if you are trying to maximize viewership, you're not focused on America. | ||
| You're focused on a general broad audience. | ||
| Well, I think the whole AIPAC thing as well, though, I mean, that is bipartisan. | ||
| Like the AIPAC has huge amounts of sway over the Democrats and the Republicans. | ||
| And I think people are looking at that going, well, how does this foreign lobby group, which technically isn't considered a foreign lobby, why is it have so much influence? | ||
| And I think that it then gets perpetuated because people don't discuss it. | ||
| You think APAC's fake? | ||
| No, I think APAC's real, but I think the idea that they're outsized in their influence, I think their influence is commensurate to their funding. | ||
| I think APAC is APAC. | ||
| I think I have no problem with them registering as foreign agents. | ||
| I think that they do have a substantial amount of influence. | ||
| But I also don't understand why people bring up AIPAC, but they don't bring up the China lobby, which is, I think, 40 times bigger. | ||
| The China lobbies. | ||
| That's the problem I have with it is that people go APAC. | ||
| And I'm like, before we get to APAC, we've got the China lobby. | ||
| We've got all kinds of lobbyists. | ||
| Well, I'm talking about foreign interests. | ||
| And I have no problem saying nobody should be dual, no one, no one in Congress should be allowed to be a dual citizen anywhere, all that stuff. | ||
| FARA registration, all that good stuff. | ||
| But back to the point of this show, I agree with Jillian in that, like, dude, shut the fuck. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Like, talk about Israel when Israel's on the news. | ||
| Criticize Israel all you want. | ||
| Please, I encourage you to do so. | ||
| I want to hear more about the bad things they're doing. | ||
| And I appreciate you bringing that up. | ||
| But when it's every fucking day, Charlie Kirk got assassinated, and the first fucking thing we see from people is Israel did it. | ||
| I'm like, shut the fuck up. | ||
| I don't know if it was the guy they're claiming it was. | ||
| We don't know for sure. | ||
| Maybe it was the shooter in the bush. | ||
| Maybe it was the shooter in the window. | ||
| Maybe it's the guy with the palm pistol. | ||
| Maybe it was the old man in front with the secret gun. | ||
| Maybe it was Bridget McCrone in the trapdoor. | ||
| That's what Fuentes said. | ||
| I don't fucking know. | ||
| But I'm with Fuentes on this one. | ||
| Can we stop the conspiratard shit? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Anyway, we got to go to callers. | ||
| Let's start with the dictator. | ||
| What is up? | ||
| Tupty. | ||
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Hey, thanks for having me like, oh, guys. | |
| Hey, doing it now. | ||
| How are you? | ||
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| Pretty good. | ||
| So first, I just wanted to say I agree with everything that Tim has been saying tonight, except for the part about giving up. | ||
| But otherwise, yeah, I agree with everything that you've been saying. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| But while we all are, while we are all concerned about the leftist terrorism and everything else that's going on right now with just the left in general, I just wanted to come in here and say how and ask, like, considering everything we have seen going on across the country, | ||
| or in, sorry, in across the, across Europe and the UK, when will Americans realize that it's time to wake up and get rid of Islam in this country? | ||
| We're going to still have that issue to deal with, even if we get rid of the left. | ||
| I don't know that anyone can put a clock on that. | ||
| And as long as there's not a critical mass, I don't see that happening. | ||
| Yeah, I don't think like Islam's like an existential threat to the US. | ||
| I mean it could be one day, but um it's like two less than two percent of the population. | ||
| It's really concentrated in like four cities. | ||
| Um I agree it's a problem. | ||
| Like I don't want I don't want to live in an Islamic country. | ||
| Like I think Islam's a pretty you know degenerate religion, broadly speaking. | ||
| I mean their countries are proof. | ||
| But yeah, I don't think they're like really anything. | ||
| Like I think the Republican Party specifically uses it as a carrot on a stick to like scare people. | ||
| And I'm just like, it's not really existential in the US unless you live in Dearborn, which it is a problem there. | ||
| And you can mop it up pretty quickly. | ||
| Like, I don't think, I think the left is a much bigger issue. | ||
| Texas, it's not the U.S. huge states. | ||
| So real quick, they have huge things, the biggest mosque and stuff. | ||
| And they've been building cities in Texas. | ||
| Yeah, it might not be an existential threat, bro. | ||
| But LG gays weren't until they are. | ||
| Well, Islam isn't an existential threat. | ||
| Third world immigration would be the threat there because it's equally as big of a problem. | ||
| They build these big monkey statues and that's like a Hindu thing or something. | ||
| So it's like Islam is just like a factor of the bigger problem, which is like unchecked migration from the third world, like destroying. | ||
| I think the difference between, she mentioned the UK there as well. | ||
| The UK has a massive integration problem. | ||
| I know American Muslims and they're actually very well integrated in comparison to the UK where they just choose not to. | ||
| There are Muslims in the UK who certainly do integrate, but there's a massive problem with the fact that they don't and they sort of take over these areas. | ||
| Similar to what you might be seeing in Dearborn. | ||
| You're a much larger country. | ||
| You're not bringing in mass Islamic migration on the same level as we are. | ||
| You're also not propping up the sort of social services to facilitate it either. | ||
| Yes, we are. | ||
| Are you? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| We're given all kind of illegal immigrants and how money they want. | ||
| I'm not so well versed, but I mean UK is like next level. | ||
| They give you prime real estate in London. | ||
| The problem is that the values of an Islamic civilization, if you're a real Muslim, you're a real Sunni Muslim, Shia Muslim, you believe in the Sharia, you have to. | ||
| If not, then you're just being intellectually dishonest. | ||
| And that religious law will trump any secular law that isn't in the country that you move to. | ||
| It is an intellectually dishonest position to argue otherwise. | ||
| You can speak to any well-versed Muslim scholar. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| They believe in that religious law. | ||
| But that will never ever be compatible with the laws of America, unless they change it. | ||
| You'd have to completely repeal the constitution. | ||
| In the UK, we don't have a constitution on the same level. | ||
| So we're seeing it take more of a hold because if you're thinking as an Islamic community, you think, right, we want to gain political power, America wouldn't be the nation that you would do it in because you have the constitution. | ||
| Look at somewhere like the UK, where all you've got to do is get a majority in parliament. | ||
| You can pretty much do most things without the king intervening, which the king definitely isn't going to intervene. | ||
| He seems very sympathetic. | ||
| But it's certainly a civilizational threat to Western civilization. | ||
| There is a huge amount of differing values. | ||
| And in Europe, we're seeing that on the political stage. | ||
| And even when they've kind of made this Islamic leftist alliance, it's falling apart now in the UK because of stuff like trans rights and the status of women and these sort of social issues. | ||
| So it's very thin end of the wedge, but as a Brit coming here, the last thing on my mind is, oh, is Islamic immigration some threat here? | ||
| To me, it's a non-factor. | ||
| You've got much bigger fish to fry. | ||
| But it is worthwhile keeping in the back of your head going, okay, well, if you bring in, let's say, there's some deal over Gaza where they're saying, you know, the US is going to bring in, I don't know, let's say half a million people from Gaza, that is going to radically change the US, but also change their strain of Islam too. | ||
| You know, when these people get into the mosque, these more radical ideas come and these people who were integrated can actually end up radicalized, which we see we saw in the UK when we had the refugees from Syria coming in. | ||
| They were coming into mosques and masjids where they were otherwise fairly well integrated and these radicalized ideas began to disseminate. | ||
| So you do have to be careful. | ||
| You definitely got to be aware of it. | ||
| I mean, obviously, this country that's suffered at 9-11, right? | ||
| You've got that's always going to be in your sort of cultural psyche. | ||
| Israel did that, so I don't know. | ||
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Oh, did it? | |
| Okay, right. | ||
| Bush did it. | ||
| Hoo-woo-hoo did it. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Does that answer your question? | ||
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I mean, I didn't think people would agree with me too much on that, but I just want to remind everyone: Islam is a problem. | |
| And while I fully disagree, I know that we have bigger fish to fry at the moment, but eventually we got to deal with the issue of the people who cause 9-11. | ||
| Do you think that Tate has a point, though, if you take care of immigration more broadly, the issue of Islam kind of is taken care of when you take care of immigration? | ||
| Or do you think that there's already enough people here that ascribe to the religion where they will eventually outbreed American, you know, Christians or agnostics or what have you? | ||
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No, I don't think that illegal immigration or getting rid of all the people from illegal immigration will fix the threat of Islam in America. | |
| A lot of the people that are in Michigan are likely here, Michigan and Minnesota are likely here, are likely here legally. | ||
| And yeah, they will outreach, outbreed us legally. | ||
| Except for us Catholics. | ||
| Yeah, I was saying immigration broadly, like legal, legal immigration. | ||
| This is why legal immigration is much more of a threat to a large degree than illegal immigration is because legal immigrants stay. | ||
| And so if they come and they're Muslim, because like I totally agree with you that it's like a threat to the way of life of the United States, they can stay and illegal. | ||
| You can get out like pretty easily with the whip of a judge's pen. | ||
| But a legal immigrant, that's a much, that's a much more rigid process. | ||
| You're going to get a little mean. | ||
| So I mean, something in America where like you've always had a historically very good integration process, but people still hold on, like, you know, look at the Italian-American community. | ||
| They still hold their cultural values there. | ||
| So I think that, you know, no matter who's going to come in, you can't expect them to ever fully integrate the way that someone who came on the Mayflower is. | ||
| You've got different cultures within the American culture. | ||
| You've got different subcultures. | ||
| And Islam being a religion, you're always going to have that risk of even if they do kind of integrate, they don't sort of fully follow the Sharia. | ||
| It's always going to be there in the back of the back of the mind. | ||
| And in the same way that you can have some fairly unradical Christian groups who, you know, over time, you'll see them become more fervent and kind of come back to the faith and actually begin living out their moral values. | ||
| It's always there. | ||
| It's sort of a latent thing. | ||
| Just with the, I did enjoy the one time where the Free Palestine rally parade, they got, and they butted heads with the LGG people, and they're all arguing and yelling at each other. | ||
| Yeah, they can't even integrate into the left, let alone America. | ||
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Yeah, thank God they didn't mummy each other on rooftop. | |
| True. | ||
| Very true. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I mean, like, they do move as a monolithic force, right? | ||
| There is the idea of the Ummah, the international Islamic community, which is why you have this response to Gaza. | ||
| It is a lobby in and of itself, whether it's a social lobby, and it also has a lot large amount of financial backing as well. | ||
| It will always be a fifth column in your society. | ||
| You can't integrate an Islamic community into a Christian society. | ||
| Something's got to give. | ||
| One is living under the other. | ||
| The de facto has always been like that throughout history. | ||
| And same with sort of any religious group. | ||
| Even in the UK, the Catholics and the Protestants couldn't agree enough that one was living under the other. | ||
| You take something like Islam, they're so radically different from different denominations of Christianity, it's not going to work. | ||
| You're not going to have a truly integrated population there. | ||
| Good point. | ||
| Good way to put it. | ||
| So you want to add anything or you want to shout anything out? | ||
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Yeah, I could add that stuff on there, but I don't want to take it over the show. | |
| It's on my show. | ||
| I just wanted to say a quick longevity. | ||
| Islam is that the issue, and you know, Protestants is that Protestants are to Catholicism what a peaceful Muslim is to Islam. | ||
| As a Catholic, I would agree. | ||
| And to that, I would just like to say, follow me on X. | ||
| I am the dictator Xisms on the X. | ||
| And otherwise, I got nothing else in choking right now. | ||
| So I'll talk to you guys later. | ||
| Thanks for calling in. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Cheers, man. | ||
| So I just want to quickly apologize for being on my phone just there. | ||
| Not only did I receive a very important and good text, which I have to, it's important work stuff. | ||
| People would be happy if we can figure this one out. | ||
| I'd also want to add, we were trying to get this really big show for tomorrow, and we couldn't make it happen. | ||
| And so I'm just trying to make sure I have the details because we had requested that Elijah Schaefer, Myron Gaines, and Nick Fuentes come on the show. | ||
| Holy moly. | ||
| And Nick, like I said, no. | ||
| And Elijah was like, well, I'll go if Nick goes. | ||
| And then my understanding is that they're not going to make it. | ||
| So that's, I just, because we're waiting to the last minute, my general understanding is he's not going to make it. | ||
| It is unfortunate. | ||
| But tomorrow morning, we're discussing the Charlie Kirk conspiracy theories, and we wanted to have Elijah, Myron, and Nick Fuentes for their views. | ||
| Would have been a good one. | ||
| Aren't they all one-sided views? | ||
| Oh, Nick is against the conspiracies. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And the reason why I thought it'd be very interesting is because there's the Israel did it side, and then there's Nick Fuentes saying Israel did not do it, which is a very interesting take considering his position on Israel. | ||
| And I guess he didn't want to do it. | ||
| I mean, he has been traveling around a few. | ||
| He was on Russell Brand, and then I think he was over. | ||
| He was on Pat. | ||
| Yeah, he was on your data at the end of the day. | ||
| Nick's probably just being a cunt, to be honest with you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, he just owes me no favors. | ||
| It would have been a good one. | ||
| This wasn't the first time, too, that the people in chat would have got what they wanted. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Let's bring in Olivia Dasovic. | ||
| Oh, what's up? | ||
| Friendly fire. | ||
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Hey, guys. | |
| Hello. | ||
| What is this? | ||
| Is he asleep so that way you're calling in to talk smack about him? | ||
| Is that what it is? | ||
| Because I'm going to tell him. | ||
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Yeah, even though he's right next to me, I am about to talk mad shit about him. | |
| So my question's for everybody. | ||
| So a lot of the recent violence we've seen from young people were clearly radicalized before they were 18 on social media platforms. | ||
| If we can't implement a law, because I think there's been a lot of attempts to do so, what should parents be doing to know more about their children's behavior online? | ||
| And how can we prevent our kids from going down that path as well? | ||
| Don't leave them phones. | ||
| Don't let them have phones. | ||
| And if they do have phones, spyware, a lot of spyware. | ||
| Monitor what they're doing. | ||
| Don't let them have a phone that's private. | ||
| Like, if you're 16, you don't get a private phone. | ||
| I don't care what anyone says. | ||
| I just want to add like every night that camera autofocuses on Charlie and Vosh and blurs out Phil's face. | ||
| There's nothing wrong with that. | ||
| It softens my crow's feet, is what it's like. | ||
| As a parent of 14 children, my advice would be. | ||
| 14 children? | ||
| Yes, believe it or not. | ||
| Would definitely be, I've got nothing, but don't give them phones. | ||
| Don't let them on the internet. | ||
| I mean, internet, yes, but phones is tough. | ||
| I mean, I don't know what you're going to do. | ||
| But by the time you have babies, there might be 15 years down the road. | ||
| So it might be, you might be having brain chips by then. | ||
| So good luck. | ||
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Thanks, Raymond. | |
| He's such a cheery dude. | ||
| I mean, it's the future's real. | ||
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I'm sorry. | |
| I mean, look, yeah, like, remember, the parents are the parents, right? | ||
| So there's going to be things where the state can step in if you're abusing your child. | ||
| But like not giving, not allowing your child to have a private cell phone or phone that connects to the internet that they can do whatever on. | ||
| There is nothing that the government's going to do about that, right? | ||
| Like you are the parent. | ||
| You will be providing all of the things for that child. | ||
| Like back in the day, I don't know if this is still something that's normal or not, but like if I like my parents were like, don't close the door to your room. | ||
| And I didn't get to close the door whether I liked it or not. | ||
| There was no privacy. | ||
| My dad could walk into the room whenever he felt like it because it was his house. | ||
| And the room that I was in wasn't my room. | ||
| It was his room that I got to keep my stuff in. | ||
| And this idea that children get to tell parents, this is my room. | ||
| I have privacy. | ||
| I need that. | ||
| You don't have shit. | ||
| When you're 18 years old, you can move the fuck out. | ||
| Then you can pay for all of your fucking shit and then you can have privacy. | ||
| But if you're living under my roof and I'm paying for all of your stuff, you can take that privacy shit and shove it up your ass because it ain't happening. | ||
| And so you should know what your kids are doing. | ||
| You should know what they're talking who they're talking to. | ||
| They shouldn't have anything on their phone that's locked up. | ||
| You should know what apps they're using. | ||
| You should know their passwords for all of their social media accounts. | ||
| If they have them, I don't think they should have them until they're at least 16. | ||
| No computer, no phone, no internet. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, I do think that like there might be an argument when they're like 16, if they get a job, they can buy their own phone or whatever. | ||
| But like until then, they get to use the computer in, if they, if they're going to use a computer, they get to use the computer that's the family computer that's in the den or in the living internet. | ||
| At all? | ||
| None. | ||
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Really? | |
| This is for all the people who chat in and say you're having babies. | ||
| Listen to this advice. | ||
| Nothing for anyone. | ||
| Your baby's good. | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| Computer in the I would say they can have a computer at a certain age with no internet. | ||
| And, you know, I make sure it's got no internet because I know how to do that. | ||
| Do you not feel like that's like handicapping your child? | ||
| So, I mean, I'm perhaps one of the few on the panel who completely grew up with the internet from being like young. | ||
| Like phone, like, like everything. | ||
| I'm 22. | ||
| What kid is better off because they have access to the internet? | ||
| Well, I mean, like, I. They're not smarter. | ||
| They're not getting better test scores. | ||
| They're actually stupid. | ||
| So I'll play devil's advocate. | ||
| I'll back them up on that. | ||
| I think it's about what values and what sort of work ethic and how you kind of teach your kid to use the internet. | ||
| I think you're going to handicap your child. | ||
| They're not going to be in touch with the cultural zeitgeist. | ||
| You might say, well, that's a good thing. | ||
| That's a good thing, right? | ||
| That's one possible. | ||
| That's the con. | ||
| However, they're not going to be able to be able to socialize and speak and understand people as well. | ||
| You have to know the opposing argument. | ||
| The second thing is I spent all my time just like reading, watching videos. | ||
| I actually was able to set up my own business just through being able to be online when I was like 14. | ||
| Just started running Facebook ads, right? | ||
| That was something I did off my own phone. | ||
| When did you first get the internet? | ||
| I was like the age eight. | ||
| What? | ||
| Age eight. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And you had no restrictions? | ||
| No. | ||
| I would call that lucky. | ||
| What we've seen from the data is that it phone use actually inhibits and retards kids. | ||
| It makes them. | ||
| I mean, you're not. | ||
| So my kid's not getting any of this shit. | ||
| I had a computer when I was a kid. | ||
| I had internet, but internet back then was very, very different. | ||
| My parents didn't have to worry about snuff films and midget porn. | ||
| Back then, it was like you'd go on AOL and you'd click a box and it would give you like nine options for like areas of AOL. | ||
| So I would go to the freeware section and look up the various video games and download them. | ||
| Or maybe I'd go to like audiophile.com where they'd be like the MP3s that are available today and there would be like six MP3s and it's like, I never heard those fucking songs. | ||
| I'll download one anyway. | ||
| And then you click it and it'll be like 14 hours to finish the download. | ||
| That was the internet when I was a kid. | ||
| So I got, I built my first computer when I was, I think, eight years old. | ||
| I got Windows 3.1. | ||
| My family had internet back when it was on DOS with CompuServe. | ||
| And you had to type everything in. | ||
| And I remember we got DOS shell and you could press up and down. | ||
| And then we had a mouse and you could move the mouse cursor around. | ||
| I was like, this is crazy. | ||
| I remember playing that fucking mind game from Apogee where you're a little guy in outer space trying to collect all the dumb little minds. | ||
| And Commander Keene. | ||
| Nowadays, the internet is pedophiles trying to get your kids on Roblox to say weird ass creepy shit to them. | ||
| And the problem I would argue with the internet is it's basically right now like telling you, dropping your kid off in downtown and being like, good luck. | ||
| And then walking away. | ||
| Like that's that, that's one attitude towards it. | ||
| I mean, I'm not saying you shouldn't monitor your kids' internet access, right? | ||
| You certainly should. | ||
| And there's various different apps and different softwares which will have like hard blocks that you can. | ||
| Even Wikipedia is a bunch of weird gay commie people. | ||
| Well, I mean, like, I was going to bring that up. | ||
| I used to do so. | ||
| We had a school computer. | ||
| Like, there was like an after-school company. | ||
| Your parents worked till six and they picked you up after. | ||
| All they had on that school computer was like games. | ||
| And the only other uncensored thing was Wikipedia. | ||
| So like the Wikipedia was far more interesting to me than the games. | ||
| Yeah, Wikipedia is coming gay books. | ||
| Well, you should just go through that, but I don't, I never turned out like commi and gay. | ||
| Like I just read things what they are. | ||
| Everybody knows a tall Asian. | ||
| There's a lot of them in Beijing, actually. | ||
| There's a lot of them. | ||
| I do want to like back up his point with something that like a lot of people miss is like the reason why Zoomers are so right wing is because of Internet access. | ||
| It's because we grew up on the Internet. | ||
| And the proof for this is why millennials are like Zoomers are not right wing. | ||
| Zoomer guys are. | ||
| Yeah, but we're the ones that are going to be actually involved in the menu. | ||
| Maybe it's like 36% of Zoomers are right-wing. | ||
| Among men, it's much higher. | ||
| In the United States, the reason why it's like 36% is because more than half of men are right. | ||
| More than half of Gen Z men are right-wing, and almost all of the women are left-wing. | ||
| And the internet is the reason why they're left-wing. | ||
| Men, if the women weren't online, they won't be fucking retards. | ||
| Well, women, well, that's just how the women tend to what I see is that they're not as politically involved as you think. | ||
| It's more political. | ||
| It's more of a group thing, right? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| The moment, like, I've had it myself in relationships where, like, a woman, she doesn't agree with your politics, but she likes you. | ||
| She knows she has a good, good thing going with you. | ||
| Her politics will just move towards whatever yours is. | ||
| is to whatever is in her best interest, right? | ||
| That's generally how most people... | ||
| Women operate politically based on their social circle. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So when women go online, they see what other women do and they adhere to that political worldview. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Men don't. | ||
| You balance that out with a healthy social life, right? | ||
| Where they're in the real world, the internet becomes secondary. | ||
| That's not what's happening. | ||
| What's happening is these girls are taking like the girls are taking the internet culture and bringing it to the real life. | ||
| And then girls are getting bullied and it's causing a bunch of problems and 14 year olds are getting breast implants. | ||
| Dude, if you guys only lived without the internet in your life one time, you would understand where we're coming from. | ||
| Yeah, I'm not going to listen to a dude who sings the hot dog song, bro. | ||
| But the thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The thing is, like, but the thing is, I'm looking at older, older generations, and they like fumbled. | ||
| So it's like, I'm sitting here as a Zoomer and I'm like, okay, well, we're moving in the right direction. | ||
| I'm looking at like the so-called like, we grew up like one arts and everything. | ||
| But it's like, you're not base. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Like everything you inherited just got worse. | ||
| It's like bass is like my great-grandfather, who didn't grow up with any technology. | ||
| That's bass. | ||
| He fought in World War II, that sort of thing. | ||
| But it's like, I don't think growing up with the internet, I think it's been worse. | ||
| I think it's been worse from a political zeitgeist perspective. | ||
| It's like everything's just gotten worse until Zoomers is like, okay, now there's an escape hatch. | ||
| We can pull this lever. | ||
| Clemen Gen Alpha's even more. | ||
| Clemen Gen Alpha is even more right wing than Gen Z. | ||
| And I've seen it myself. | ||
| When I've looked at some of these comment sections, I'm like, that kid's like fucking 12. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| And he's coming out like the most bass shit. | ||
| Like stuff that's actually very well articulated too. | ||
| I'm like, wow, like, because it does allow people access to the knowledge which would be, which would previously be gatekeep behind institutions, or you're not old enough yet. | ||
| We're not going to discuss this yet. | ||
| So, what it develops is a very well-rounded individual. | ||
| What percentage of those kids, though, are addicted to like midget-furry queer shit? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't think it's, I don't think it's as big as you think. | ||
| I think it's like isolated. | ||
| I think a lot of these kids are pretty, like, still pretty normal. | ||
| I think there's like there's an incentive to like doom over young generations. | ||
| That's like been the case. | ||
| And I'm not denying that, yeah, there is like weird, like, furry tranny, whatever. | ||
| But, um, like, we interact with them. | ||
| Like, kids that grow up in like normal environments, they are turning out fairly normal. | ||
| It's the people that have something external that knocks them off course while they're a child. | ||
| The internet really rips them apart. | ||
| Really, okay, no anime, though. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Well, I think anime should be banned. | ||
| They have a fun, but no anime. | ||
| Anime is demonic. | ||
| Like, no attack on Titans? | ||
| Yeah, no, you can't have it. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Anime should be prosecuted. | ||
| No, I actually, I actually, I'm a big anime fan, actually, but I actually hate American cartoons more. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Like, Ed, Ed, and Eddie. | ||
| Oh, that's my favorite. | ||
| Ed, Ed, and Eddie should have been. | ||
| If I was dictator, I'd ban Ed Ed and Eddie. | ||
| That's why I am the way I am. | ||
| Any Looney Tunes? | ||
| Any Looney Tunes made before 1945? | ||
| What about Animaniacs? | ||
| Any Looney Tunes made before 1945 are great. | ||
| Ed, Ed, and Eddie. | ||
| It was a show about three losers that everybody hated that failed every step of the way. | ||
| And the reason why I hated American cartoons was that it was always about failures. | ||
| And the reason why I liked anime was that you always had to fight to get ahead. | ||
| So, like, Goku, no matter how hard it got, he would always struggle and figure it out and try and get stronger. | ||
| Always the haters too. | ||
| Naruto was always really great because Naruto was a loser, outcast, orphan, and he became president, basically. | ||
| And he got stronger and stronger. | ||
| He finished the end. | ||
| He got that was like 15 years. | ||
| I know. | ||
| I stopped. | ||
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That's a good point. | |
| Yeah, aliens came, and then they went to another dimension, and who knows what the fuck's going on? | ||
| Well, I mean, like, I think what's interesting about those cartoons where they are, they're unremarkable. | ||
| They're kind of failures, but they still kind of end up in these remarkable situations. | ||
| And like, what is Ed Ed and Eddie? | ||
| Yeah, and like a lot of these show, like, regular show and other one. | ||
| It's like kind of like, oh, God, fuck. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| It was always good. | ||
| I never thought it was like complete shit liberal. | ||
| The main characters are detestable, arrogant shitheads. | ||
| Yeah, but you're aware of that as a kid. | ||
| Like, you don't think, oh, I'm going to model my life off of these cartoons. | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| I like Justice League, Spider-Man. | ||
| I like Dragon Ball Z. | ||
| So, like, for me, anime was because we had Dragon Ball Z and Telemundo. | ||
| So, you know, the only way to watch it was in Spanish. | ||
| So, like, when Vegeta was killing Napa, Napa was like, Porque, Vegeta! | ||
| I was like, I get this. | ||
| But you couldn't watch it. | ||
| And then I brought the Cartoon Network, but you had that cable, and I didn't. | ||
| And so I didn't watch a lot of anime growing up, but a lot of it is real fucking weird. | ||
| Real weird. | ||
| I mean, Shawana went to Japan. | ||
| That's why you get these. | ||
| They have masturbation stores in Japan. | ||
| We don't want any of that. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| But I mean, they say. | ||
| Lagoon Gallery. | ||
| It is like segmented in Japan. | ||
| Like, you have these areas that are complete, degenerate cesspits, and then you've got this other kind of like pseudo-utopian reality in this other area. | ||
| It's like they do kind of corn it off, which is better than here, where like you'll have like some sort of country club, then down the road, you'll have some like weird sort of anime shop, like witchcraft stop. | ||
| Like things are just kind of like it's everywhere. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I've seen interviews on the street for women asking them if it's okay if their man cheat with them if it's with like a prostitute. | ||
| And they're like, yeah, it's fine. | ||
| We definitely got to get the rest of the calls, but I just want to add one thing. | ||
| And I think American cartoons is like giving your child acid. | ||
| And I really mean it. | ||
| And anime is, it's almost like giving them acid. | ||
| But let me clarify. | ||
| I don't mean all. | ||
| Cartoon Network was really bad. | ||
| Justice League was really good. | ||
| Static Shock was really good. | ||
| I like those shows. | ||
| Batman Beyond was a little weird because it was in the future, but still good. | ||
| The Batman animated series, really, really good. | ||
| These were cartoons that had weird superhero shit and weird stuff, but the characters were adults talking to adults and talking about perseverance, honor, justice, integrity. | ||
| Spider-Man was really good. | ||
| And I look at some anime, and they have a lot of those things like Nairoto I thought was good in terms of that messaging. | ||
| And what messages do I want my kid to pick up? | ||
| Honor, integrity, perseverance. | ||
| Then you look at like Rocco's Modern Life. | ||
| Drug trip, meaningless, psychotic garbage. | ||
| You look at Cow and Chicken. | ||
| Fucking awesome. | ||
| I love cow and chicken, but what the fuck? | ||
| That's like that show is for 20-year-olds on drugs, not for children. | ||
| And the same thing is true for Animaniacs and all of these fucking shows. | ||
| But Olivia, did you want to add anything or shout anything out? | ||
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I will take this opportunity to shout out my husband's show, Pop Culture Crisis. | |
| You guys can find them Monday through Friday. | ||
| You guys know that Joe Mary's not there tonight, so I figured I'd take the opportunity. | ||
| And you can follow me at Olivia Jasmic on all platforms. | ||
| 3 p.m. Eastern. | ||
| 3 p.m. Eastern. | ||
| Thank you, Brett. | ||
| Thanks for coming. | ||
| Ryan, thanks for coming in. | ||
| That was a good conversation starter. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Next up, we've got portential. | ||
| What's up? | ||
| Porn tenth. | ||
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Thanks for taking my question. | |
| Today, Trump labeled Soros and Reid Hoffman as likely being paymasters behind organized terrorist groups. | ||
| What is the likelihood of this going through and charges being pressed? | ||
| Or it turns out these groups are running CIA apps, so nothing comes of it. | ||
| I would say that we're likely going to see indictments. | ||
| I don't think Trump's playing around. | ||
| I think the indictment of Comey shows us it's happening. | ||
| The dam will break. | ||
| And Bannon was saying, end of summer, you'll see arrests. | ||
| So it's just a little bit after summer and Comey indictment happened. | ||
| I think Trump's going to put his foot on the gas. | ||
| And I think the reason why it's taken as long as it is, as I've explained the past couple of days, is he's trying to massage the culture, not drop a tsunami on the culture. | ||
| If he comes out and says, arrest Soros now, they're going to be like, dude, this is crazy. | ||
| You get a few arrests under the belt. | ||
| You get a few indictments. | ||
| You get more evidence. | ||
| Get it in the news. | ||
| He says it now. | ||
| Let it percolate in the news for a few months. | ||
| Let the cultural commentators bubble up the stories, create this wave, this zeitgeist. | ||
| Then when you make the arrest, everybody expects it. | ||
| Do you think that with him talking about it so much, the left, it doesn't really matter what he says and how much he brings it out slowly but surely. | ||
| The left, the Democrats are still no matter what, even if it doesn't. | ||
| The point is, regular people can't be shocked. | ||
| If Trump announced right now, he's arresting Soros, there's going to be some like Super Mom. | ||
| I'm like, what is going on? | ||
| Who's that? | ||
| Then the left comes out and says, it's just an old man. | ||
| Why is Trump doing this? | ||
| Let the commentary flow through the culture for three months. | ||
| Then on every TV, you're going to hear the debate. | ||
| George shows this, George shows that. | ||
| People start to form opinions. | ||
| Then you're going to get a 50-50 split. | ||
| And some people are going to be like, I don't know. | ||
| I heard about that guy. | ||
| I think he should go to jail. | ||
| Then Trump does it, and it's a 50-50 split. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm kind of like the nothing ever happens chodd, the fell for it again award. | ||
| I just don't think Trump's got the balls to do it. | ||
| Comey's been indicted. | ||
| I'm talking to talk about this for Soros. | ||
| So someone like Soros who's got a vast. | ||
| No, but you said nothing ever happens, but like literally so much shit has happened in the past month. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| I don't think, yeah, but I don't think it's seismic in the sense that it's going to fundamentally change American politics. | ||
| Like I was mentioning before, there's going to be another. | ||
| What could? | ||
| I think you have to really crack down on all of these funders have to be cracked down upon. | ||
| The media has to be held to a new standard where they're not allowed to say this sort of dehumanizing assassination. | ||
| Are you saying that Trump needs to announce an indictment on all of them at once? | ||
| I think that would be a big show of strength, yeah. | ||
| But that's not possible. | ||
| Well, I mean, not possible initially, but like, I'm getting he's going to ramp up to it. | ||
| Like, that's the thing. | ||
| But like, just kind of wait, it's going to happen. | ||
| Wait, it's going to happen. | ||
| There's a finite amount of attorneys. | ||
| They have to pull together evidence for probable cause hearings. | ||
| Then they have to convene a grand jury. | ||
| There's limited court space. | ||
| Trump can't just be like, here's 15 indictments of prominent Democrats right away. | ||
| Not only can you not actually legally do it because there's no mechanism for it, but everybody would say no to Trump if he tried that. | ||
| Even if Trump literally had the indictments, they'd be like, are you nuts? | ||
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No. | |
| And Joseph, you're calling for Trump to go after the sources. | ||
| Yeah, and he's already talking about going after Soros and Huffman. | ||
| And designating anti-fa-terrorist organizations. | ||
| And then three days later saying we will now dismantle the entirety of the leftist activity. | ||
| Yeah, but I mean, I feel like, you know, last week when there was this big momentum and it was like the nation was still in shock over the assassination, you could have come out with it straight away and it would have had a much kind of stronger cultural impact and it would have been like, well, we've just taken this man's life and we've celebrated it, cause and effect, right? | ||
| Like for him to hit back hard. | ||
| He didn't hit it. | ||
| 15 days. | ||
| 15 days is a long time in politics, right? | ||
| No, but I mean, look at how quickly things are. | ||
| 15 days is a long time. | ||
| I can't take the nothing ever happens argument because literally this past month has been like this country is forever changed. | ||
| I don't think it's forever changed from the top down, though. | ||
| I don't think Trump has fundamentally changed the nation to prevent these sort of people. | ||
| They're talking about making a Charlie Kirk silver dollar. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Like the nature of this country has changed. | ||
| Liberals are posting in defense of Charlie Kirk. | ||
| Now, don't get me wrong. | ||
| But it's form not function, right? | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| Trump declared an anti-fa-terrorist organization and indicted James Comey in the span of like three days. | ||
| Yeah, but I'll have to see how it develops, but I just don't think it's going to be somewhere. | ||
| Are you bringing America going to be something? | ||
| You got internet brain, bro. | ||
| Perhaps. | ||
| Perhaps. | ||
| So like it's not just internet brain, but I make this point quite a bit. | ||
| When you read history books, history is condensed. | ||
| And this has caused a kind of, and for lack of a better word, I don't mean this derisively, a delusion where people look at what is happening around them and think nothing ever happens because you read a history book and it's like Hitler rounded up the Jews, then he invaded Poland, then he invaded the, you know. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| But it's like, actually, that was like the American Revolution was 20 years. | ||
| I'm talking in terms of like political momentum, right? | ||
| Like there's not that many people today going ex on the timeline. | ||
| Not that many people talk about Charlie Kirk being killed, right? | ||
| Like it does just, because people ask them internet brain? | ||
| You said people aren't talking about Charlie Kirk being killed? | ||
| It's not all over the timeline like it was last week. | ||
| It still is for me. | ||
| I see a lot of it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| My YouTube feed and my ex timeline is literally like still every third post is Charlie Kirk. | ||
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Really? | |
| Okay. | ||
| I mean, the Jimmy Kimmel thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, stuff like that. | ||
| Investors are now suing Jimmy Kimmel so that Charlie Kirk is in every article. | ||
| I mean, I feel like the outreach energy really kind of came to a, like, that could have been harnessed a lot better. | ||
| Like, he could have used that push for hard policymaking and be like, yeah, well, this is why, while it was still in the public psyche, it's not in as strong of a position as it was last week. | ||
| It was much more on the minds of people last week. | ||
| I think we can agree on that. | ||
| I don't get why. | ||
| I don't agree. | ||
| I don't get why he didn't do it immediately. | ||
| Just like, look, I think that's like an opinion with no distinction. | ||
| It's like he could have done it. | ||
| Perhaps maybe. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| We don't know what would have happened. | ||
| I think that in terms of are things happening, well, aside from the fact that Charlie Kirk's assassination is one of the most shocking things this country has seen in 70 years, things happen. | ||
| And then Jimmy Kimmel getting pulled off the air in a terror attack on an ABC station. | ||
| The amount of happenings that have happened that are fundamentally rearranging politics in this country have been terrifyingly fast in these past two weeks. | ||
| Is that going to stay? | ||
| Or is it just going to be, okay, I need to be seen to be doing something? | ||
| And then, you know, six months down the line, James Comey was just indicted. | ||
| There's another, I'm saying there's another foreign conflict, other things going on in the world. | ||
| Then suddenly there's not as many eyes on Trump to go. | ||
| It's not an argument for nothing ever happens. | ||
| It's an argument of we don't know what happens next. | ||
| Yeah, but I'm saying, like, do I think in his head he's going to go, like, I'm going to go for Soros. | ||
| I'm going to make sure he's indicted. | ||
| I'm going to put 100% into this. | ||
| No, I think it's more of like lip service. | ||
| I don't think he's, I don't think he's fully sold on the idea. | ||
| I would call that normalcy bias. | ||
| Perhaps. | ||
| Donald Trump just declared Antifa a terrorist organization and then indicted James Comey in the span of a couple of days. | ||
| And you're like, yeah, but he'll stop here. | ||
| Well, there's no evidence to suggest that. | ||
| I haven't seen him go further. | ||
| Well, of course you haven't because he's as far as he's gone. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So if in three days, so it's Antifa is a terrorist organization, then I am filing an executive order to have all governments dismantle the mechanisms of the left, and we're going to indict James Comey. | ||
| And next we're coming after Reid Hoffman and George Soros and you're going, he's not going fast enough. | ||
| I'm like, that's the craziest thing I've ever heard. | ||
| In fact, I think he's going too fast. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yes, the mechanisms of law for these indictments, we don't have enough courtrooms and grand juries and attorneys to go as quick as he's actually going. | ||
| When he instructs all government to go after all of these agents, all of these nonprofit agencies, whatever, and at the same time trying to deport all of these people, sending the military out, he's stretched way too thin on this one. | ||
| And the idea that nothing's happening is crazy. | ||
| Like this nothing ever happens argument, it's like, wow, I never would have thought that there'd be three terror attacks in three weeks, followed by three massive governmental reactions. | ||
| These past two weeks have felt like a year. | ||
| Jimmy Kimmel getting taken off the air brought back the FCC argument. | ||
| It is insane the amount of things that have happened in such a condensed amount of time. | ||
| Do you think it's just pressure valve, though? | ||
| That's my skepticism. | ||
| Perhaps this is also as a brick. | ||
| You look at the American federal government, you think like infinite resources, they can get whatever they want to do, get done possible. | ||
| Reality on the ground, I'm not well versed enough. | ||
| I mean, you may be completely correct about the court thing. | ||
| But I feel like to some degree, it is going to be a pressure valve because what benefit is it to Trump as an individual to get involved in all these indictments long term? | ||
| And his term ends in a few years. | ||
| He wants to solve the immigration thing. | ||
| He wants to leave his legacy. | ||
| I don't think he's going to cross the Rubicon on that level. | ||
| I just don't... | ||
| I feel like... | ||
| I think it's within his self-interest. | ||
| I'm looking at this way. | ||
| Trump is an individual. | ||
| Trump is, you're watching Trump with a pickaxe chip away at a giant lodestone, and you go, yeah, but sooner or later, he's going to stop. | ||
| That's your argument. | ||
| I mean, like, after seeing his speech on Sunday, like, the rhetoric just wasn't hard enough. | ||
| We are watching Trump swing the pickaxe and you're like, yeah, but he's going to stop. | ||
| And I'm like, okay, well, he's doing it. | ||
| His rhetoric just didn't seem hard enough. | ||
| It didn't seem like someone who was fully involved and committed to, I really want to dismantle it. | ||
| He didn't seem outrageous. | ||
| He ends up going on this tangent about the autism thing. | ||
| I've got a big announcement on Monday. | ||
| Why do you want him to go balls to the wall for Charlie's memorial at that time? | ||
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Because I feel like he's not going hard enough. | |
| No, no, no, but I'm saying like the argument right now is that Trump is literally doing it and you're like, yes, but he'll stop. | ||
| And I'm like, okay, if you think so. | ||
| There's no evidence to actually suggest that other than opinion speculation, which is fine. | ||
| I'm not saying you're wrong. | ||
| I'm saying I am watching Trump do a thing. | ||
| He has said he's going to continue. | ||
| He's actually swinging the pickaxe harder than we've ever seen swung. | ||
| I don't understand why that is evidence that he will not do more. | ||
| It's like the idea that Trump never does anything. | ||
| He just did all of his crazy things. | ||
| Yeah, well, he's not going to do more. | ||
| And it's like, but he keeps doing more. | ||
| So I don't know. | ||
| I just, it feels like normalcy bias to me. | ||
| Perhaps. | ||
| Like we are dealing with in these past few years, more things have happened than like 100 years of American history. | ||
| It's been fucking nuts. | ||
| That's the meme. | ||
| That's the joke that so much is happening internationally and nationally. | ||
| I mean, not only he bombed several narco boats, redirecting American warfare towards the fentanyl. | ||
| You've got the deployment of the National Guard, the Marines, the legal battles over there. | ||
| You now have the federal indictments. | ||
| You've got the targeting of Adam Schiff and Letitia James through Bill Pulte. | ||
| Like, Trump's doing so much fucking shit. | ||
| I'm like, wow, I said last week, what did I tweet? | ||
| At this pace, we'll see arrests by next week. | ||
| I was right. | ||
| To be fair, they didn't arrest Comey. | ||
| They indicted him. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But that was the point. | ||
| And so we are Thursday, and my tweet was correct. | ||
| And it was funny because I tweeted hello with a retweet, and people are like, what are you saying? | ||
| And I'm like, maybe I know things. | ||
| I mean, I think also I'm just kind of thinking, I'm very emotionally charged on this in the sense that like it was going this way anyway. | ||
| A lot of people saw this sort of stuff happening. | ||
| Preemptively, they were using this dehumanizing language. | ||
| Nothing was done. | ||
| People are still deplatformed. | ||
| It's like that should have been undone prior to that. | ||
| Like we saw the way that this was going to manifest and now it's like just crack down on it. | ||
| And I feel like a lot of Americans, a lot of conservatives around the world, a lot of people on the right are like, can you just like, because they would crack that, the left would come down on this like a ton of bricks in a way that wouldn't be, okay, we're indicting some people. | ||
| They would just go hardline. | ||
| We're going to ban these right-wing terror groups. | ||
| And they'd have a plan that'd be put into action the same day. | ||
| This, okay, he's done the executive order, but as we were discussing earlier in the show, what can actually be done about it? | ||
| Well, we don't know. | ||
| So to me, that's lip service because there isn't an actual plan to really go, okay, we need to dismantle these people, dismantle their funding. | ||
| You say, okay, there's going to be indictments, but it's not going to be fast enough for these people. | ||
| We've seen that the ICE facility was attacked. | ||
| It's still ongoing. | ||
| Lives are being lost. | ||
| People are living in fear. | ||
| Do something about it now because this is impacting the quality of life. | ||
| What should he do? | ||
| I mean, should he? | ||
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Wait. | |
| I got an idea. | ||
| Should he instruct all government agencies to target the infrastructure of the left and shut it down and arrest them? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He did that. | ||
| He did that earlier. | ||
| Let's just see if it produces fruit. | ||
| Is it like fully? | ||
| Is that the main focus? | ||
| He said all government agencies executive order to go and start dismantling the financial structure of leftist organizations, leftist terrorism. | ||
| Well, we'll see how it looks by their fruits. | ||
| You shall know them. | ||
| It'd be interesting. | ||
| I've seen Trump say things before, and I'm being skeptical. | ||
| I am again. | ||
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Well, let's get that last color. | |
| Portential, did you want to shout anything out? | ||
| You should become American citizens. | ||
| Portential, did you want to shout anything out? | ||
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Shout out to Tate for his low-T MAGA males. | |
| I have him take El Riari yogurt. | ||
| It improves metabolism, gut barrier to circular size, and sperm quality. | ||
| You can see it on Dr. Burke's channel. | ||
| I'm taking it myself, and it's good stuff. | ||
| Right on. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| Thanks for calling in, brother. | ||
| All right, Tate. | ||
| Well, I'm going to say this. |
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