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Sept. 27, 2025 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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RIOTS Leftist ATTACK ICE, Tear Gas Deployed, Feds Ordered To IGNORE CA Law, CIVIL WAR! | Timcast IRL
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christian maxwell
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ian crossland
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phil labonte
14:54
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tim pool
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tim pool
Riots outside an ICE facility in the suburbs of Chicago.
Rioters scream that people should shoot ICE.
ICE responds with tear gas, pepper spray, vehicles are swarmed.
It's not the most egregious thing we've seen, but following the several terror attacks we've seen against the ICE facilities, it is pretty shocking that the federal government is allowing this degree of violence to escalate.
So we'll go through everything that we're seeing there.
We then got a couple of really crazy stories.
Apparently, there's a superintendent in Iowa who is an illegal immigrant who has been arrested.
He was working the school system there, which is very shocking and confusing.
And oh boy, it gets crazier.
Donald Trump is discussing whether or not they should begin to drone strike inside Venezuela.
So the external, let's just say, complications of war are pretty alarming.
Alongside what we're seeing now internally, the federal government has ordered ICE agents not to remove their masks, not to abide by California law, which is setting up a federal and state clash.
Many people have suggested Gavin Newsom will just back down.
But all of this has asking questions about where we currently are at as a country.
Russia is threatening to go to war with us, saying NATO already declared war on them and not to shoot down their planes, which have violated NATO airspace, including ours, reportedly.
Trump talking about bombing Venezuela with drones.
All I can say is, holy crap.
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ian crossland
See, look on the right, there's that beautiful man two times.
Look at that in the upper left and the upper right.
tim pool
I was so good.
unidentified
Why are you?
tim pool
Why is there two Ian?
ian crossland
I'm the hottest man on earth, Tim.
tim pool
That is a weird thing.
ian crossland
That is bizarre.
tim pool
Phil's shrugging at it.
Ian is on the website twice.
ian crossland
I told you I was going to win.
tim pool
Must be a coding error.
christian maxwell
One is AI.
tim pool
Anyway, yeah.
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Christian Maxwell.
unidentified
All right.
christian maxwell
Well, pleasure to be here with you guys.
This is going to be great.
tim pool
Well, who are you?
What do you do?
christian maxwell
So I'm actually, my name is Christian Maxwell.
I'm running for Congress in Illinois.
I'm running as a Republican, which is what people do not do.
They usually tell you to sneak in as an independent and just then do all the Republican things.
But I definitely decided to run as a loud and proud Republican because it's how I live.
tim pool
How's the reaction, though?
Chicago has been ruled by Democrats for 100 years.
christian maxwell
It has, but if you look at Illinois and how I voted during that last election, it's a red state.
It is a red state with a big blue dot.
So I think that right now, Illinois is at a precipice where they understand that they cannot go.
They can't go another four years, another two years with all these blue representatives who truly don't care about the future of the state.
So it's really time for a change to happen.
tim pool
It is pretty funny, actually.
This happens periodically where we'll book a guest and it will be weird news timing because the riots from ICE are happening just outside of Chicago.
christian maxwell
Literally.
tim pool
And there's a big conversation about what the federal law enforcement should be doing, National Guard.
So this is perfect.
We'll talk about this.
Thanks for hanging out.
We got Ian hanging out.
ian crossland
Everybody, good to be here.
Ian Crossland in the house.
Let's just get to it.
Hey, Phil.
I was going to describe myself.
There's too many words.
phil labonte
Yeah, it's too hard to encapsulate in just a one-seven centenomy.
Hello, everybody.
My name is Phil Labonte.
I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All the Irmans.
I'm an anti-communist and counter-revolutionary.
Let's get into it.
tim pool
Here's the story from Axios Chicago.
Broadview ICE protests grow despite fence and gas.
And apparently it is ongoing.
Now, the crazy thing about this is that we've got these videos.
The first thing I want to play for you and, you know, earmost for the kids, this may be a bit vulgar, but I think the context is important.
It's from Blaze Media.
This is in the early stages of the protest.
Listen to this.
unidentified
Arrest night!
Arrest night!
Arrest nice!
Shoot ice!
Shoot ice!
phil labonte
Shoot the fuckers!
Shoot the fuckers!
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Okay, I think you heard that already.
Now, that's important context when you begin to look at where we're going from there with this video from BG on the scene.
So for those that are just listening, you have a crowd of people blocking and obstructing an ICE vehicle.
Savannah Hernandez tweets is a serious failure on behalf of the Trump administration.
And the fact that ICE vehicles are still being mobbed and nothing is being done about it is quite frankly embarrassing.
ICE agents were just shot at and almost killed.
And the admin continues to allow this.
We have this video from Nick Sorter.
This is a Fox News report.
john roberts
Just a second, but we want to go back to the protests at the Broadview ICE facility in Illinois that Mike Tobin was reporting on all morning.
You've got some breaking news on that.
tricia mclaughlin
Yeah, we have about 200 protesters there on the ground.
We actually had our law enforcement just confiscate a firearm from one of these protesters, or really rioters are what they are as they're obstructing law enforcement vehicles from being able to enter that facility.
And John, this is just two days after we saw that vicious, disgusting attack on our law enforcement facility down in Dallas, where one detainee was killed and two are currently in serious condition.
And that psychopath opened fire indiscriminately on our ICE law enforcement on the facility and on the van.
And the fact that there is now a firearm or there was a firearm there in Chicago is very alarming.
tim pool
I think people need to understand as well.
The vehicles in the ICE terror attack were not buses.
They were white vans.
It's my understanding.
And so the individual who fired on them did not know.
It seems that they were any transport.
And it seems that they were just shooting on ICE vehicles thinking they were targeting law enforcement, ended up hitting these detainees.
We're at a rock in a hard place.
Can we really say that this is a protest?
We are well past the point where we can tolerate people wearing masks, bringing weapons, and physically attacking law enforcement vehicles when we are dealing with this degree of terrorism.
So perhaps five, 10 years ago, we could tolerate that this is not free speech.
It's a riot, but do we want to escalate by arresting?
And the cops often would say, let's just push through it.
But now that it's gotten to the level where we've had, I think, three terror attacks on ICE facilities in three months, this is no longer a matter of free speech.
Technically, 10 years ago, this is still illegal.
You want to protest, you want to hold signs outside the facility, that's free speech.
When you start physically attacking their vehicles to any degree after these terror attacks happen, I got to say, to Sam's point, why isn't Trump admin just saying lock them up?
christian maxwell
I agree.
I wholeheartedly think these people should be locked up.
They are obstructing these officials and doing their work.
And when you're tampering with people who are doing carrying out missions like this, like you really are getting involved in something that's very dangerous.
They're trying to arrest somebody in general is a really precarious situation.
Having someone hurling insults and getting very close to you with phones trying to divulge your identity is not what those men signed up for.
ICE agents, law enforcement officials, they deserve to go home and to be safe.
They are law-abiding citizens.
Why are we not on the side of our law-abiding citizens who are doing their job trying to protect our country?
I don't understand.
phil labonte
So, to your point, Tim, like the fact that this has been going on for a decade or more is actually why we've gotten to the point where there are actual murders happening at ICE facilities.
These types of behaviors need to be shut down as soon as they happen.
So that way, people like the people that are amassed outside of this particular facility don't think that they can get away with saying things like arrest ICE, shoot ICE, et cetera.
They should all get arrested.
Like anyone out there, they should go and get the local law enforcement should come and they should wrap them all up and they should all get charged.
I don't know what the charges exactly would be, but they should all get, you know, inhibiting the lawful execution of law enforcement.
christian maxwell
I mean, if you're touching them, then get them for a solid law office.
phil labonte
Every single law that they've broken, and it's all on video because they've got cameras.
Every law they've broken, they should be prosecuted for.
I agree.
And this should, this should be, that should happen at every ICE facility everywhere across the country.
christian maxwell
It should be not, it should be such a notice put out that people are like, you know what, it's not worth the risk.
In their meetings, they meet before they do this.
They don't just pop up.
They had a strategy meeting and they decided that this was worth the risk.
You know why they said it was worth the risk?
Because Pritzker told them.
unidentified
Yeah.
christian maxwell
And Brandon Johnson told them, we are going to push back.
They are literally, when Pritzker did that speech and said conservatives should know no peace, he laid the groundwork for what happened.
Oh my, oh God, pull up the speech.
He literally said they should.
Pritzker said that?
He said they should know no peace.
He said it in a speech.
I think he was, he was on the East Coast and he said it.
And it enraged Illinois because it was basically like a kind of like April.
tim pool
The Republicans cannot know a moment of peace.
christian maxwell
That laid the groundwork for what we saw happen to Charlie Kirk.
He went on a tour telling people to wage war against conservatives and Republicans.
phil labonte
I've been saying this for the past couple of days.
If there are any politicians out there, whether they be state level or they be federal level, if you truly believe that this is that the that it is time for the temperature to come down in the United States, what you need to do is get out in front of a camera somewhere and say, we need people to allow ICE to do their job.
christian maxwell
Yes.
phil labonte
That is a simple, basic, easy to do, low bar, real easy kind of thing to ask for.
And it's every single person that's an elected official should say, we want law enforcement to be able to safely do their job.
And if you can't do that, then you don't actually want, you don't want de-escalation.
You want more escalation.
You want more votes.
jb pritzker
Mobilization for disruption.
But I am now.
Never before in my life have I called for mass protests, for mobilization, for disruption.
But I am now.
christian maxwell
It was evil.
tim pool
Whoops.
Just real quick.
I'm wondering why, like, not a single Republican has said anything like that.
Ever.
phil labonte
Never.
jb pritzker
Disruption.
christian maxwell
No, we don't wait for it.
jb pritzker
But I am now.
unidentified
I mean, I was into mass noncompliance during the COVID mandates.
Yeah.
phil labonte
I said, I would, I would.
jb pritzker
These Republicans cannot know a moment of peace.
They have to understand that we will fight their cruelty with every megaphone and microphone that we have.
We must castigate them on the soapbox and then punish them at the ballot box.
tim pool
He's forgetting one part of that quote.
When he said the soapbox and the ballot box, there's an implied statement because the rest of that poem is, or phrase, or whatever you want to call it.
Do you know what it is, Ian?
ian crossland
No.
I've heard it before, though.
tim pool
It's castigate them at the soapbox.
You beat them at the ballot box or you load the cartridge box.
christian maxwell
Oh.
Right.
But he even goes on to say, basically risk life and limb.
Like this speech was really toxic.
It was really bad.
jb pritzker
So tonight I'm telling you what I'm willing to do, and that's fight for our democracy, for our liberty, for the opportunity for all of our people to live lives that are meaningful and free.
And I see around me tonight a room full of people who are ready to do the same.
So I have one question for all of you.
Granite staters.
unidentified
Are you ready for the fight?
phil labonte
So in the right place.
tim pool
The four boxes of liberty, it's called.
And it's the soapbox, the ballot box, the jury box, and the cartridge box.
phil labonte
Wow.
christian maxwell
That's what they're right.
They're calling for him to be impeached right now in whatever it's called in Illinois.
tim pool
Will he go to prison like the rest of the governors?
christian maxwell
He needs to.
I mean, it's like a rite of passage in Illinois if you're serving office.
You end up going to prison for a living.
phil labonte
You're not really a governor if you don't go to prison.
christian maxwell
You got to go spend some time.
tim pool
Are you really a hometown local, born and bred, if you don't go to prison after serving office?
christian maxwell
No.
phil labonte
You at least have to be indicted, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
christian maxwell
No, yeah.
He needs to, he laid the groundwork for a lot of this violence.
He gave people permission to be as violent, to lean into their violent delights.
And he made it where it went from us from people debating to now they're like, you know what?
I don't care if I get hit by a car.
I don't care if I have to.
phil labonte
All of the proper responses to that kind of rhetoric are TOS violations.
tim pool
This is actually crazy.
Let me read.
I think many people are familiar with the four boxes of liberty.
Wikipedia says the soapbox represents exercising one's right to freedom of speech to influence politics to defend liberty.
The ballot box represents exercising one's rights to vote to elect a government to defend liberty.
The jury box represents jury nullification to refuse to convict someone being prosecuted for breaking an unjust law that decreases liberty.
And the cartridge box represents exercising one's right to keep and bear arms to oppose in armed conflict a tyrannical government.
The four boxes represent increasingly forceful methods of political action.
We've already seen all of them.
They have marched to the streets.
They have voted.
They lost the speech issue to the culture.
They have lost the voting issue.
Now, what are we seeing?
They are not prosecuting the criminals.
They're letting them go.
And we've seen them shoot and kill.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
More than one person.
ian crossland
I love the jury nullification opportunity.
I'd like to see it imposed more righteously once in a while in the United States, but the Pricksker saying fight.
I mean, that rhetoric is very dangerous.
Yes.
tim pool
Have you even fight?
I don't mind the word fight.
ian crossland
Because it means like two kids fighting in their living room, you know, like two brothers.
You're arguing, you're pushing.
phil labonte
It is so benign compared to the other things that they've said.
Like fight.
You can fight in an argument.
An argument is a fight.
When you get into an argument with your significant other, you say, well, I got into a fight with my girlfriend, right?
You didn't beat her up.
You got into a fight with her.
And people understand that.
But there are other things that he said that are far more egregious than fight.
Fight is the very basic bottom-of-the-barrel kind of thing.
He said that's inconsequential.
ian crossland
I think it's lazy, though, because you get into a firefight.
Troops can get in the fire.
christian maxwell
Yeah, but a gunfight is different than an interpretation on purpose, though, because for a person who's toxic in the mind, a person who's mentally unhealthy, when they hear fight, they're like, you know what?
We've talked about it long enough, like you said.
So what are they going to think about when it comes to that?
tim pool
Yeah, but Trump said you got to fight like hell.
And they claimed that was insurrection for January 6th.
The word fight is typical political rhetoric for decades, even in times of peace.
So I try to be careful with that one.
The bigger concern is when he starts invoking the boxes of liberty.
Yeah.
Because the implied statement there is, if this does not work, you know what I'm asking you to do.
phil labonte
And to be honest with you, in New Hampshire, that kind of rhetoric has, it's far more impactful in a place like New Hampshire because New Hampshire takes their liberty very seriously.
The people that he was actually talking to understood that in a different way than, say, the people of California would.
tim pool
Well, there was that dude who threatened to kill the governor, right?
phil labonte
Yes.
tim pool
He was working on making bombs or whatever in New Hampshire.
So I do think it's fair to say the rhetoric does need to be toned down across the board.
I don't care.
I'm not going to play any partisan games.
But the problem is, seemingly the right has no problem with doing it.
Like, I've made videos where I said, I don't care if you're on the left on the right.
Everybody should tone it down.
We don't want violence.
Cooler heads must prevail.
And then you look at what the left is saying and they're escalating.
christian maxwell
It's a derange.
ian crossland
You said at the top of the segment that it's rocking a hard place.
And I think it is because from that other perspective, like, why are they aggressively getting in the way of it?
Why are they beating on cars of ICE?
People in those cities often and sometimes think that my friends are now being taken away from me.
And they may be here legally for seven years, but they're my friends.
tim pool
No, bro.
ian crossland
What other choice do I have?
tim pool
No.
They don't know these people.
Sometimes a really great example is, I hope it's Ben Bankus, right?
That's the comedian we had on.
I was watching one of his Instagram clips, and he was talking about, he was doing a bit about ICE, and a heckler yells, the U.S. citizen are getting deported.
He's only deported citizens.
And then Ben is like, what citizen?
And they're like, the guy from Maryland.
christian maxwell
The Maryland man?
tim pool
And he says that was a green card holder with a bunch of crimes.
And they're like, no, he did nothing wrong.
Petty offenses.
christian maxwell
Did you think that that guy actually had a record for getting detained or put over by an officer and he was actually trafficking other men?
tim pool
He got criminally charged for smuggling.
christian maxwell
He's tracking it.
tim pool
The point is, these people that you're talking about, Ian, have no idea what's going on.
They don't look into it.
And that's why you can have an individual like you or me with certain like liberal economic views, but will be called right-wing because we know the truth.
Because we say things like, oh, that guy was from El Salvador and was caught smuggling humans.
They go, you're lying.
You're right-wing.
ian crossland
I've been trying to wiggle out of this hard place that The Rock is pushing against.
And I'm thinking, like, what if ICE, what if the government stops targeting anyone that's been here for 12 years and can speak fluent English?
Like, because if they're really integral part of the community and they're well understood.
phil labonte
Just because just because they can speak English and they've been here for a long time doesn't mean they're an interesting.
christian maxwell
A lot of people, most people in the world are almost bilingual.
It's just an American thing to only be modeled.
tim pool
Let me play this clip from Ben for you guys.
This is actually pretty good.
And he's a funny guy.
Let's load it up.
Make sure we get the audio going.
unidentified
We're citizens.
But that's so impressive.
tim pool
I think.
unidentified
Name one citizen that's been deported.
Besides Alan DeGeneres.
She did a self-deport.
No, but I'm curious, which, which, who's been deported?
The guy from Maryland.
tim pool
Right.
unidentified
So everybody says, he's just a Maryland man.
He's just a Maryland man.
What was his name?
Rodrigo, Monzara, Lanai, he's guilty.
If your name's not Jeff, you're gone.
He wasn't a citizen, he was...
tim pool
He was on Green Card when he was a little bit more.
Not even a Green Card.
christian maxwell
Petty Carpenter.
unidentified
That's insane.
I think his wife had a protection order against him.
Wow.
Lefty jibs.
One day when you're like 45 and single after three or four shows.
You're right on this thing while living in your bachelor apartment that you can barely afford on Government Walter's house.
tim pool
Okay, that dude's very funny, and that was good.
That was good.
I don't blame a comedian for not knowing anything about Kilmar Brego-Garcia, but the reason I bring this up is how the audience, this woman, was willing to yell at a comedian at a comedy show.
First of all, why heckle?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
But she was so sure of herself that she said he was a citizen who got deported and there were petty offenses, petty charges.
This guy was suspected of smuggling humans and the feds told the cops to let him go.
christian maxwell
Multiple times.
tim pool
He had beaten his wife on more than one occasion, according to their own accusations.
And he was from El Salvador, not a citizen, and he had an order of deportation, but he had a protection order to not be deported to that place.
And he's still pending deportation now, I think, to like Uganda.
christian maxwell
Yep.
His home country doesn't want him back.
tim pool
I think the argument they're making is he can't go back because of the fear of death or whatever.
So the argument from the Trump admin is like, well, then we can send him literally anywhere else.
christian maxwell
But he can't stay here.
tim pool
And this is really funny.
The latest update is that apparently his lawyer submitted a fear of death from like just a whole bunch of random countries.
So they looked at it and they went, Uganda, I guess.
Yeah, that's because they're like, bro, if that's a game you want to play, we'll keep playing.
phil labonte
Yeah.
Look, I don't care.
If their home country won't take them, I don't care where they send them.
Just send them away.
I mean, the home country of these people, they have the responsibility to allow them.
And if they've been sent out of their country because they're criminals, that doesn't mean it's our responsibility, responsibility to take them and to let them stay here.
And if there is a place where, you know, a third country that's like, man, we don't give a crap.
And we can send them there, send them there.
I don't care if it's Uganda or somewhere in Africa and somewhere else in South America.
Or look, I'm still pro-Gitmo.
Send them to Gitmo.
christian maxwell
Here's the thing: like this, having immigration happen like this, where there's no checks and balances, it causes real harm.
Chicago recently had a measles outbreak.
They had a measles outbreak at the immigration facilities where these people were living.
So as you know, a lot of Venezuelans were coming to Chicago.
And during the time that they were coming from Venezuela, they were actually having a measles outbreak in Venezuela.
So here's the thing: a lot of these people will get so mad at a person who's like, hey, I don't want to get all the vaccines.
But then they'll be like, hey, let people come in here with no checks and balances, no health checks, and bring in diseases that have kind of been eradicated in our country.
We're okay with that.
But let a mom down in Texas say, oh, I don't want to vaccine, vaccinate my kids.
And now that woman is a terrorist and her kids should be taken.
But a lady on the street can have her kids strapped to her back all day, not going to school, and they're spreading measles at facilities.
And that's okay.
So I think that right now, Americans in general are really fatigued with the lack of just reality that these people are in touch with because it can't be okay for a person to come from a whole nother country with diseases that have been eradicated in America.
But let a mom, like I said, in Texas or in Illinois say she doesn't want vaccines.
And it's like, this person is evil, but the other one is not.
And it's not problematic and should stay and should not be forced to vaccinate and can go to school and go to public schools where teachers can't speak to the kid and the kid can't speak to the teacher because they are actually in CPS schools.
tim pool
I got a question, you know, because I haven't been back in Chicago for any and a meaningful amount of time, you know, holidays, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
But there was this story I saw where they wanted to build an immigration camp in a park.
And then it was actually in the black community where they revolted, being like, don't you dare do this.
What happened with that?
christian maxwell
So one of them was actually in a hotel.
You may be talking about the one that was in a hotel.
I'm not sure.
It could be.
tim pool
They were like trying to build something in a park or something.
christian maxwell
They were investing all over black communities and just taking over things, like I said, like abandoned hotels.
And they were paying like hundreds of thousands of dollars for these hotels to be converted into migrant shelters.
So what you would have is that the police would have to patrol much more often around the migrant shelters.
You had the fire department coming out nonstop because they would have like seven people in a room in these shelters.
And the city was paying tons of money for hotels to be converted for these people.
And it was causing a big uptick in crime.
So the people actually pushed back in one high park community.
Chicago Flips Red was a big part of it.
And it really helped for those people to actually get that shelter shut down because they were about to really transform it permanently and make it a part of the community where people have black Chicagoans.
And here's the thing: black Chicagoans have held down the Democratic Party, but they even had to say, Hey, what's going on?
Because these are die-hard High Park residents who've invested.
And you're telling them that now they're going to be living down the street from a migrant shelter where it's, I think the occupancy was supposed to be like 400 people for a hotel, but they were going to like three or four exit for migrants to be in there.
And it's like, that's not, it's just not safe.
Like a lot of times, if you, if you come to Chicago, it's interesting.
So you'll like order DoorDash and it says it's going to be a lady named Susan dropping off your food.
And then a guy who's clearly of like, you know, either Venezuelan or in South Oregon rolls up on his Vespa.
And it's like, that's not, I'll go, I don't even go to the door anymore for my DoorDash because I'm like, it's usually a man on a woman's account.
tim pool
Yeah, we, we, we, we, we, we dealt with this.
We talked about it too.
A car will pull up and it'll say like Mike S for your driver and then it'll be like some Hispanic guy or whatever and he'll go he's my brother.
christian maxwell
Yeah.
tim pool
And I'm just like, okay, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
And so now we have a policy of like, everyone's got to give IDs.
Yeah.
So vehicle pulls up and it'll say like Sarah and it's a guy.
And we're like, turn around.
And they're like, what?
And it's like, DoorDash has a serious problem.
christian maxwell
It's not safe.
tim pool
I mean, for us, in terms of we have very serious security issues.
So when strangers pull up saying, here's the food, please eat it.
We're like, nah.
christian maxwell
That's actually smart.
tim pool
Not going to eat that food from a strange person who's not listed properly.
christian maxwell
I didn't even think about that.
Because my assumption is that I think that in Chicago right now, what's happening is that they are basically using DoorDash and all these little, you know, gig economies to just run their, it's their new form of economy for these people that they've trafficked to the city.
And they have them on these accounts and they're just setting up accounts and that has to be how they're doing it.
But the issue right now, like I said, Chicago has been destabilized.
That's why you see Mayor Johnson actually just called for, I think, CPD to cut their budget by $100 million.
Do you know what Mayor Johnson has been?
Yeah.
tim pool
How is his approval rating not like negative?
christian maxwell
Oh, because he's backed by the CTU, which is the entire, every teacher in Chicago is under the thumb of Stacey Davis skates.
And she, that's, she's a product of CPS.
He's a teacher.
He was a social studies teacher and he got to, he got to play with the city now.
But he wants CPD to cut their budget because he overspent on his migrant population who's supposed to elect him again.
tim pool
Did you look at the election data by neighborhood when he got elected?
christian maxwell
I've looked at some of it, but I know that when I look at the overall turnout, the turnout was actually really low for the race in general.
Like you would think that it would be like 500 to 600,000 people who came on and voted.
It wasn't.
tim pool
Well, but like so I took the election map showing which neighborhood voted for which candidate.
And then I took the neighborhood breakdown by race and they overlap.
So in the Hispanic areas, they all voted for the Hispanic guy.
In the white areas, they voted for the white guy.
In the black neighborhoods, the top, so in the black neighborhoods, all the top three candidates were all the black candidates, even if they weren't even the top polling in the city.
Brandon Johnson was able to win because one neighborhood deviated.
It's a white neighborhood that did not vote for the white candidate.
christian maxwell
Wow.
tim pool
Loyola.
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
Voted for Brandon Johnson, put him over the edge.
And that's how you ended up getting a confidence.
christian maxwell
Isn't he from out closer to the area?
tim pool
Maybe.
christian maxwell
I think so.
tim pool
It was a bunch of, the presumption was socialist university kids voted for the socialist.
christian maxwell
They did.
tim pool
And now the city is just worse off.
christian maxwell
I actually know some older, I know quite a few older Chicagoans who voted, voted for Paul Dallas because that was what they resonated with.
A lot of older black Chicagoans are more conservative in their mindset.
They just hate the idea of a Republican.
So they voted for Paul Dallas, but what really failed during that election was that runoff.
People didn't come back out.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
christian maxwell
Turnout is such a big issue in Chicago.
And if for any conservative candidates or Republican candidates, you got to be willing to bust people to the polls like Democrats do.
They bust the voters in.
They bust them in and then they mail them those ballots and they win the race before the race even starts.
tim pool
You know what's crazy though?
My neighborhood voted for Trump.
christian maxwell
Yeah.
tim pool
A Chicago neighborhood voted for Donald Trump.
christian maxwell
It's becoming more popular.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Yeah.
It's my neighborhood has a lot of like firefighters and cops.
And so these people of all different racial backgrounds are just like, nah.
christian maxwell
Well, because they're living, I mean, if you go like on the south side neighborhoods like that are still standing strong, like the Mountain Greenwoods, Evergreen Parks, you know, Oak Lawn, Beverly, a lot of these places are, they're holding on by a thread.
And it really just comes down to the fact, like you said, a lot of them are first responders.
They're actually investing in their communities.
Their kids go to the pub, go to the schools in the communities, and they're doing everything that they can to hold on, but they're fighting against like a force of dysfunction.
And it's like, you have to get Chicago under control.
You have to get it under control because it's even spilling out into like Orland.
It's spilling out into Orland.
The theft is going in every direction.
tim pool
My buddy was telling me, so a couple of my buddies still lived in the area for a while.
I left a while ago.
And the policy that Chicago's had in these high crime gang neighborhoods, largely black, has been to just bulldoze them.
Like Leclerc Courts is a really great example.
They said, we're going to rebuild this for you.
So we're temporarily relocating you.
Never did.
unidentified
Nope.
christian maxwell
They just left them in the suburbs.
tim pool
Exactly.
And, you know, Andy, who works here, he's like all the gangs just moved into other areas and the crime just got worse.
They grew and expanded.
The city has not dealt with any of these problems.
And then it's funny because Trump says, you know, let me tell you.
Apparently, one of the last things, I think Trump said the last thing Charlie Kirk asked him was, Mr. President, please save Chicago.
Because Charlie's from Arlington Heights.
And Trump's talking about sending in the National Guard or the feds.
And these politicians like Pritzker, look, fine.
I don't live there anymore.
There's a reason why I left.
But he's like, you can't come in here.
We won't let you.
christian maxwell
And I'm like, he's walking on the lakefront.
Have you seen his lakefront videos?
He's like, I'm on the south side of the lake.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
christian maxwell
I'm on the south side of the lake.
It's so safe at 6 a.m.
I'm like, well, they just went to sleep for the night.
The criminals do go to sleep during the day.
They sleep during the day and they do their crime at night.
tim pool
Well, the other thing, too, is they go to wealthy areas.
They don't rob their own neighborhood.
christian maxwell
There's no money in their own.
They go steal a charger from somebody in the hood and then they go race downtown.
Literally at night, if we ever on the highway at like 8 o'clock, we make sure we stay out of the left lane because there's chargers zooming towards downtown.
Like they're on their way.
tim pool
Let's jump to this next story.
We got this from The Hill.
Trump administration orders federal authorities to ignore California mask law.
The Trump bad men ordered federal authorities Friday to ignore new legislation in California banning law enforcement officers from wearing masks.
Gavin Newsom last Saturday signed the bill, which is slightly take effect January 1st, 2026, making face coverings of local, state, and federal officials a misdemeanor crime and imposing a civil penalty against officers for tortious conduct.
Governor Newsom is confused about his role under the U.S. Constitution.
Bill Asaley, acting U.S. Attorney for the Central District of California, said in the Friday Post on X, he oversees California, not federal agencies.
He should review the supremacy clause.
California's laws, law to unmask federal agents, it's unconstitutional as the state lacks jurisdiction to interfere with federal law enforcement.
I have directed federal agencies to disregard this state law and adhere to federal law and agency policies.
Asaley wrote, this is where things start getting spicy.
Because although we are still, we got a couple of months until this law kicks in.
The question is, will Newsom actually try to impose penalties, misdemeanor crimes, potential charges against ICE, or will he just sit there with his hands tied behind his back effectively because he can't do anything?
ian crossland
And say that they're criminals if he just tells the people they're violating the law and now they're criminals and put that out there.
christian maxwell
Well, I think that California already rolls like that.
So I used to work in the beauty industry, and you would have to have a whole different rule set up for your beauty product based on California, like California law.
Like there's so many, even with like trucking, like when trucks drive into California, it's a whole new set of rules they have to abide by.
So I think that for them, they've already set multiple precedences where they're used to having their own set of California-specific rules.
So I don't necessarily know if Newsom is just going to stand down because that's not the California way.
phil labonte
He's not going to do anything.
He's not.
I don't think that he's going to do anything.
This is all posturing.
christian maxwell
You think so?
phil labonte
He'll go ahead.
They won't actually try to arrest any federal agents.
And like Ian said, I think he'll just go ahead and say, look, I passed this law and these are criminal ICE agents.
They're breaking the law.
Look at how bad Trump is.
His Gestapo.
And all he's going to do is use it to turn up the rhetoric, which is bad in and of itself.
Right.
Like, this is an escalation.
And whatever he does beyond this is also another escalation.
But I don't think that he'll go so far as to have his local law enforcement actually have a confrontation with federal law enforcement because he doesn't want to, I don't, I can't imagine that he wants to see any of his own local law enforcement guys get shot.
He doesn't want to see a gunfight between two different law enforcement agencies.
Terrible.
He doesn't actually want to take on the federal government in a kinetic way.
He wants to take on Trump in a battle of rhetoric.
unidentified
Yes.
phil labonte
And he wants to look tough.
So that way, because he wants to run for president.
So if they get into a gunfight, if they get into a gunfight, there's no way he's going to win the presidency.
christian maxwell
The only reason I'm still just concerned is because the temperature, like you talked about, the temperature is up so high.
And now they're to the point of they don't want to just posture.
They're fatigued with posturing.
And I think that on our side, we're like, oh, nobody in their right mind is going to do that.
But the people that are behind a newsome, they want to see action now.
And I think that that's something we have to be mindful of.
tim pool
There was a video I just saw today where a bunch of conservatives were at a memorial for Charlie Kirk and it was painted on a bridge.
And some guy filming, he's filming himself with a camera on his body, walks up with spray paint, shakes it up, and then immediately starts trying to desecrate the memorial and immediately gets repelled and then starts threatening people.
I love this.
He goes, you can't touch me.
You can't touch me.
And it's like, bro, I've heard that there's so many of these videos.
Have you guys seen the video where the dude tries robbing the CVS and he's got these huge bags and a mask on?
And then somebody just grabs him, puts him in a chokehold and slams him down while the guy's yelling, you can't touch me.
And I'm like, bro, that's not going to fly with people who don't care anymore, right?
So they end up pepper spraying the dude.
And then there's like three other leftists and they're like, you can't do this to us.
How do you, and it's like, dude, no one is going to tolerate these leftists acting this way.
And, you know, to Phil's point he made just a moment ago in the previous segment, these people have been able to go out with impunity and firebomb ICE buildings in 2020 for 100 plus days.
And Trump didn't do anything about it.
So there are, I mean, think about this.
Five years ago, there's a 13-year-old.
He logs onto Facebook or X or Instagram, whatever's watching TikTok, and he sees these far leftists lobbing explosives at a federal building.
Five years later, he's like, why can't I?
You don't get in trouble for it.
And so now he's out there on the ground with these people doing it.
People don't realize, man, time, five years, it's not that long.
You are going to see more and more people being told it is okay to do this.
That's why I'm saying Trump needs to start arresting these people for the threats.
These people at the ICE facility need to be arrested.
And a message is now sent.
So that way, when there's a 13 or 14 year old who logs on that TikTok or whatever, they see you get arrested and they see people crying and they say, I ain't doing that.
christian maxwell
No, because you don't want to go to county.
tim pool
Oh, man.
christian maxwell
You need to have the risk of going to county with real hardened criminals who are waiting for you to come in there.
Like that needs to be the risk.
And I think, like you said, normalizing bad behavior and normalizing that you can put your hands on law enforcement and get that close to them is not something that's, it's just not a safe thing to do.
You don't touch law enforcement.
tim pool
I think, you know, people who don't live in Chicago don't understand what it means to go to county.
christian maxwell
Oh, man.
County is rough.
I mean, like, it's not just a quick stay.
Those guys are in there for what, up to a year.
You could say for a year.
tim pool
And so real criminals.
There's two thoughts about it.
So what it's like, it's like, what is it, like California?
I can't remember that.
Yeah, just the street that it's on.
christian maxwell
Oh, yeah, yeah, it's California.
tim pool
On California, I mean, whatever.
And so some of these people are in county lockup pending transfer to first, like waiting trial for serious murder.
And their attitude is like, I ain't going nowhere, so I can do whatever I want.
So you might, what's scary for a lot of people with county is you might get a charge where you're looking at two or three months.
You go to county and then some guy starts a beef with you who's like, bro, I'm in here for the rest of my life.
And then what happens if you get into a fight?
You get more time.
And so people are terrified for a variety of reasons.
Plus, the gangs run out of there.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, go to county.
No.
christian maxwell
No, and it needs to be a real risk.
Like, if you're like a college kid, like you need to really be thinking about this.
Like, no, there's an amount of bail getting you out of here.
tim pool
Could you imagine like a woke white liberal woman in county lockup trying to tell like some 30-year-old gangbanger about how oppressed he is?
unidentified
Yeah.
christian maxwell
Even if you're in there with these hardened chicks, like they're nothing to play with.
That, like you said, it just has to, you have to have normalcy.
We have, we need to return to normalcy and return to common sense.
Like, the normal person is never going to go touch a law enforcement official.
It doesn't occur to me to touch them.
So, we need to normalize that for more of the population.
Like, that's that's just the only way forward.
ian crossland
We're in such strange times, like they're abnormal times with this 20-plus million surge of illegal immigrants, and that people have been either brainwashed into believing that they're the rebel alliance and that the empire is coming with their stormtroopers all masked up to take their people away.
christian maxwell
The new Jewish people, they've made the migrants the new Jewish people, they really have.
And I think that's so weird to co-op the Jewish story.
And also, they've they also look at these people like the new slaves.
Like, they'll kind of tell me, like, oh, you're going to be like a person like me.
Like, oh, this was you just a little bit ago.
And it's like, hey, it actually wasn't.
phil labonte
Yeah, that was me never.
Like, I was never enslaved.
christian maxwell
None of, and for like, I was never enslaved.
And also, slaves didn't like hop over here.
Like, they, like, that's not even like the story.
And it's like, to make it seem like I should be okay with illegal aliens coming into the country.
I'm like, I'm an American.
I'm an American.
And I think that for a lot of black people, they need to really identify much more heavily with being Americans.
We are not slaves anymore.
We are American citizens with all the rights and privileges of being American citizens.
And for the Democratic Party to continue to tell us that we are not and that we're actually second-class citizens who at any point could get deported with illegal aliens, because that's the rhetoric they tell us.
It could be you.
You're going to get enslaved.
No, we're not.
No, we're not.
tim pool
It really, it really is this amazing contrast between Clarence Thomas and Katanji Brown Jackson.
And like Clarence Thomas is one of the greatest thinkers of our lifetime.
And Katanji Brown Jackson is a real dog.
ian crossland
Genius and stupidity don't care about your race.
No.
Everybody's got it.
christian maxwell
No, but she's a really bad influence for black women in general.
And that's why you see a lot of black women following in her footsteps.
It's like the Jasmine Crockett syndrome.
This is why it's been normalized for black women to feel like, oh, let me go and get really educated, but not evolve.
tim pool
Well, she fakes it.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
That's the worst thing is that she's a well-educated, professional individual who decided I'm going to act like I'm ghetto and play this character up.
That's crazy.
christian maxwell
No, it's either play like you're a civil rights activist or play like you're ghetto and about that life.
It's like you're not, she has, she literally walks around Congress or rocks around the capital, Capitol Hill with like security around her.
I'm like, you're not about that life.
You're actually quite scared.
You're quite shook about the attention that you have.
tim pool
Where is she from?
christian maxwell
She's from St. Louis.
She's actually from close to my to my St. Louis.
tim pool
I'll give her some credit for St. Louis.
christian maxwell
Her father's a preacher.
She went to schools that cost like $30,000 a year.
Like this woman is not what she portrays at all.
And it really is.
tim pool
Okay, so West, not East St. Louis.
christian maxwell
No, no.
No, I was, I'm from East St. Louis.
And I'm like, I'm from East St. Louis area where people are terrified.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
christian maxwell
I didn't know what to go to.
And I'm like, I don't act like that.
So why do you act like that?
And you're from St. Louis.
tim pool
Yeah, crossing the river is like when you do, it gets bad.
christian maxwell
No, it gets really bad.
East St. Louis is probably considered a dead town at this point.
But my grandma's a loser.
tim pool
It's crazy, too, with like AOC, Jasmine Crockett.
I mean, is she a squad member now?
Is that or no?
christian maxwell
Which one?
Jasmine Crockett?
phil labonte
I don't know if she's actually a member of the squad.
tim pool
I don't know if they're in the squad anymore because they lost like three squad members.
So the squad broke up.
Is that what happened?
christian maxwell
I feel like Jasmine Crockett is mad at them because they didn't want her to be, you know, they were like, no, you can't lead the committee.
What was it?
The oversight?
phil labonte
They're kind of petty like that.
christian maxwell
Yeah, they knocked her off of that because she's not really one of their team.
ian crossland
I'm going to ask again because I didn't get the answer I wanted last time.
But okay, so what's the difference here?
There's people that have been here illegally for five or six years that don't speak English.
They came in the surge, the Biden's surge, versus people that have been here over a decade that speak fluent English, that have a lot of friends and family in the community.
tim pool
Well, what are you asking?
Because that's the distinction.
ian crossland
That we should not use ICE to deport people that are intergirl now, that have integrated, even if they're illegal.
tim pool
Well, the priority of the Trump administration is not those people.
christian maxwell
No.
ian crossland
But they'll move them anyway if they go to the.
tim pool
Well, I don't think the proper way to describe it is they'll get them anyway.
I think it's that they've been looking for active orders of deportation and they're typically targeting, they want to go after the criminals some kind of heavy crime or multiple infractions.
Some of these people are a guy who lived in an area for a long time, but he has an infraction.
I've not, I don't think there's actually any big national stories of like a guy whose only offense was an order of deportation who worked at a grocery store or anything.
Typically, even when the left puts up these videos where it's like, there's one right now of a guy screaming, Iudame.
Oh, no, no, no.
There's one where no, it means help me.
ian crossland
Oh, it does.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
There's a...
ian crossland
No, no, no, no.
tim pool
So there's a video where a guy is at a car and they throw him down and he's screaming in Spanish, please, please, I just want to see my family.
And all these libs are going, oh my God, he just wanted me.
Here's a pedophile.
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
Yeah.
And it's like, guys, what are you doing?
ian crossland
I believe what you're saying, actually, but that the people that are here 10, 12 years integrated, working at the grocery store with no criminal record except for their, are terrified that they will be grabbed.
So maybe we could give them federal immunity.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
Why?
ian crossland
If they can prove that they've been here over a decade.
christian maxwell
I think it does a disservice to immigrants who go through the actual thorough process.
And that's the one thing we have to protect is the process of immigration.
Those people know more about America than we do a lot of times.
Like they, they have to learn so much about this country.
They pay so much money to become American citizens and it takes so much time.
So it really does, in order to say, hey, you're okay, for the person who came in at 12, the same time period as the person who came illegally, it's like, well, why did I go through all of this and wait?
Or for people who are seeking, what is it, asylum, where you have to wait to come to the country for asylum?
phil labonte
You're supposed to go to a port of entry.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
And if there's a country that is between the country you originated at and the United States that actually is safe, you're supposed to stop there.
Ian and apply that.
tim pool
So I have a pitch for you, Ian.
I've been thinking about this.
You know, I was reading the other day about a guy and they called it a bank robbery.
Can you believe this?
This poor man, he was just making an undocumented withdrawal from the bank.
And I said, why don't we, I mean, look, it's been a couple years since the undocumented withdrawal.
He's used the money to work and live in his home and he built it up.
Why arrest him at this point?
ian crossland
Do you think all the people that have Bitcoin that didn't report it to the government should go to prison?
tim pool
Do I think people that have in that have violated tax law should go to prison?
Most.
ian crossland
They just have Bitcoin and didn't ever report it.
tim pool
Yeah.
So, you know what happens is they send you a bill.
You don't go to prison.
ian crossland
The government doesn't know they have it.
tim pool
They have it offshore.
ian crossland
They have it.
They don't tell.
They have cold storage.
Like, should those people hunt it down?
tim pool
If you want to have a debate over the morality of tax law.
ian crossland
Law, just with law in general.
tim pool
Tax and murder and undocumented.
ian crossland
They're all documented.
tim pool
They're all distinct things.
ian crossland
And tax.
tim pool
So you're comparing apples to oranges.
It's like trespassing.
And I'll tell you this.
The answer is the people who bought Bitcoin and have made a lot of money out should pay their taxes.
Now, we can have a debate over how we should handle tax law as it pertains to this country and how I feel about taxes and all that.
But if the argument is these people knew full well that buying crypto and then making a massive gain on that would require them paying capital gains when they actually see the return and then they intentionally hid that from the government.
Well, I have a problem with that.
ian crossland
That's illegal.
tim pool
And I'm not going to cut.
But here's the thing.
Often when you have tax stuff like this, I said this of Hunter Biden.
Usually the IRS just says, hey, dude, you owe us.
They don't come and lock you up unless there's something egregious that you did.
ian crossland
We talked about jury nullification earlier about a jury being like, look, the law may be the law, but it's not just.
And I think that with the illegal, because if we just go hardcore everyone goes, I think I have a good analogy.
christian maxwell
I think I have a fact, though.
So listen, what about this analogy?
So what if somebody, what if we're talking about a squatter instead?
Because my family has land in Arkansas and they have squatters on it.
So say you have a squatter in a house and they've been there for like 12 years.
Is that house ever theirs?
Is it more theirs now today than it was when they first started squatting, when they broke in and decided this is my house now?
Is it there?
Is it should that person who actually owns that house not be able to get their house back because the person's been there for so long?
tim pool
Well, 12 years is an interesting question, actually.
And if, and if we're talking about like that, there, there are questions that I think are fair when we're talking about duration.
unidentified
If you own property and you did not let somebody stay there for 12 years, you're negligent as heck.
tim pool
But like six months to a year.
christian maxwell
But also, our immigration system was negligent as heck.
And it's like, so I guess that kind of goes back to what you said.
Like, if we let somebody stay here for 12 years, like the U.S. jacked up, you know, like, why was that person here?
tim pool
But again, to Ian's point, I would say these are completely morally distinct things.
Someone didn't pay taxes to the government.
Nobody was physically hurt.
The tax revenue for the year was barely impacted.
Somebody with Bitcoin, let's say someone got really wealthy off it and they owe $7 million in Bitcoin.
That's a rounding error for the federal budget.
I think the appropriate solution is, hey, you owe taxes.
You got a tax bill.
Thank you, and Evan Ice.
ian crossland
I think the crypto thing's irrelevant too.
I think that squatting is a better metaphor.
tim pool
If somebody came here illegally, it is not in any way a moral violation to say, Ian, I couldn't help but notice you've been in my house for a long time.
I'm going to give you a ride home, okay?
Give me the address.
I'll pay for it.
Listen, if I found there was a guy in my basement that I didn't know was there, and the worst that happened was I was like, let's say I'll pay for them to leave.
christian maxwell
They all pay for this.
tim pool
Ian, let's say one day I'm like, you know, I keep every night hearing this weird noise in my basement.
And it's been this way for a couple of years.
I go down there and there's a little haggard little jasmine crocket going, my husband's restaurant.
My basement.
And then I say, okay, this is a problem for me.
You can't be in my house.
I'm going to give you a ride home.
I'm going to pay for the gas.
You will be comfortable the whole way.
christian maxwell
And you may come back legally through the front door.
tim pool
You'll be well-fed.
And all you got to do is come back, knock, and then, and we'll talk about it.
ian crossland
You've got to work 12 years at one of your properties you don't live at.
And it's just, you just didn't pay any attention.
And now it's their house.
tim pool
So here's the issue.
There's a difference between an individual who waited 12 years and never checked on their property.
I would call that abandoned.
The United States government is very different because there have been people in this country demanding the deportation of these individuals, but a government that would not do it.
So you've got people outright saying, no, stop this, and the law saying you can't.
Skirting the law and hiding is different.
So how about a better analogy, Ian?
You own a house, you check on it every other week, and the person squatting hides every time you come and check.
And so one day you figure out they've been there for 12 years, but every time you check, they've been hiding from you.
Can you kick them out?
ian crossland
Depends on the state.
tim pool
Legally, I'm saying morally.
Morally.
ian crossland
Oh, that's rough.
tim pool
They're hiding from you.
ian crossland
There's like a family of people that have been hiding and living in the house.
tim pool
They intentionally broke into your house.
They're hiding from you because they know you're keeping up with the house.
You're checking on it and you don't want anyone there.
phil labonte
Bye.
tim pool
Goodbye.
christian maxwell
Because here's the thing.
phil labonte
100%.
ian crossland
So if you're aware, if you're not negligent, if you're aware they're there.
tim pool
And this country has laws saying you can't do it.
ian crossland
Well, what's going to happen?
tim pool
And ICE was enforcing those laws, particularly under Obama, just because some people got away with it from hiding.
It doesn't mean we leave them here.
ian crossland
BlackRock's going to own 20% of the houses in the country, and people are going to be like squatting.
And we're going to do a land or mission.
christian maxwell
And I think the state's financial aid agency in Illinois.
And here's the thing.
So for a lot of these people who have been longtime illegal aliens, they also had kids they brought here with them.
I would literally be doing financial aid applications with these children and they thought they were citizens.
So that's the issue.
It's like, what are the, we have to think about all the real world implications of somebody who has not pursued legal citizenship and what it does to their entire family and unit as well.
So those kids would be thinking, oh, they, and these would be smart kids.
Like they actually had like better GPAs than some of the kids who were like actual American citizens.
But when it came time for me to say, hey, what's your social?
They would show me either a card that was like a DACA card or they would show me something else.
And it's like, hey, that's not, that's not a social.
And then they would have to find out all of a sudden, like, wait, what do you mean?
And I would be breaking the news to them that they weren't a citizen.
ian crossland
Did they get deported?
christian maxwell
No.
So they were actually training us with the state's financial agencies to make sure we were like protecting these kids so they wouldn't end up in a precarious situation.
But when you have a parent that is negligent or a person who's negligent with not going through that process, you really have to ask, why aren't you going through the process to, you know, to make yourself right?
Because it hasn't always been a hostile situation in America where you couldn't go and then pursue citizenship.
So why hasn't it been a priority?
Especially if you've been here for 12 years.
ian crossland
Because the government was being negligent.
phil labonte
A bite.
tim pool
No, listen, there's this story that we're going to pull up in a second where a guy is a superintendent in Iowa.
Just because you've like contributed, lied and hidden from law enforcement does not mean, oh, you win.
You robbed a bank, but you ran around the block five times and we couldn't catch you.
So dread, you get to keep the money.
There's no time.
ian crossland
There's a statute of limitations.
tim pool
Statute of limitations means we knew where you were.
We knew who you are.
We knew the crime and accusations were there and we didn't pursue it.
That's different.
If we say this is a crime and then you hide from us and we can't find you and didn't know that you were here, the statute of limitations doesn't kick in until we're aware of that crime.
So if a guy comes from Guatemala and is living here illegally and no one knows the crime has been committed, then it's not negligent.
If one day we then say, hey, wait a minute, that guy's illegal and we pursue it, it doesn't matter how long it's.
ian crossland
But Biden's saying surge the border was negligent.
phil labonte
Fair enough.
But look, the reason why I'm so hardlined on it, and I am completely hardline, I don't care what nuance you add to it.
My answer is goodbye, right?
Just send, if you are here illegally, you have to go back.
Bye.
That's it.
The reason is because it deters people from coming here in future.
tim pool
It's not just that.
Our economy is displaced.
Our low-skilled labor is displaced.
Our housing is displaced.
Houses should not cost as much as they are.
And we can certainly talk about Trump wanting interest rates to go down because it's going to make houses go up in price.
But if there were, if the people who came here illegally were not here, then the cost of houses would go way down.
Why?
Because the supply would be massive.
Gen Z would then be able to afford homes.
Maybe then they'd have families.
So I do not tolerate Democrats saying abort your babies and surge the border.
So we have this massive strain on low-skilled labor, the housing market, and no one can have families.
Then they're telling everyone to abort their babies and they're just destroying this country.
phil labonte
And then they call everybody racist when you say things like the great replacement is real.
unidentified
It is real.
christian maxwell
You're going to replace the religion because actually when you think about the pace of something like the Muslim religion in comparison to Christianity, the Muslims are outpacing Christianity in different areas because they have more babies.
They are literally birthing more Muslims.
Like that's literally growing.
tim pool
The left loves Islam and hates Christianity.
christian maxwell
They're Islam adjacent.
And it's like, as soon as Islam has taken over the areas, because if you go look at, so if you go in Illinois, they've had a big foothold in areas like Orland Park.
And so they've taken over a little bit.
phil labonte
The left needs to realize that Islam does not love them.
tim pool
They will not.
We have to jump to this story from kgw.com.
Rapper Ice Cube's tour bus catches fire in downtown Portland.
Investigation underway.
Now, you may be saying, Tim, I don't, that's sad to hear for Ice Cube.
The rumor is the fire was started by people who thought they were firebombing ICE.
phil labonte
Which that is hilarious.
It's terrible for the owner of the bus.
It's awful for the owner of the bus because I assume that Ice Cube doesn't own the bus.
He's probably renting it.
tim pool
Apparently.
christian maxwell
Didn't he say something left field about recently?
He had a comment, I think, recently about, I don't know if it was about ICE, but that sucks.
phil labonte
So most people.
tim pool
So again, this is apparently, I don't know if this is actual footage, but this is what everyone's sharing.
unidentified
Oh, Ice Cube.
phil labonte
Fire.
tim pool
Ice cream on the side of the bus.
And apparently it said ice, Ice Cube or something.
ian crossland
Because they call them ice.
tim pool
Yeah.
Now, I don't know if that's true.
However, guys, downtown Portland, which has this kind of stuff all the time, and the Portland ICE protests are ongoing.
So, when someone says, ICE, who set fire to his bus and why?
Why did it just happen?
Because somebody did it for a reason.
Now, we can speculate.
Maybe it was some guy who was like, I am so jealous of this famous rapper, I will burn it.
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
We don't really hear stories like that.
christian maxwell
It doesn't sound like it.
tim pool
So, when the rumor is anti-ICE protesters set fire to Ice Cube's van or tour bus, we're kind of like, you know, that's kind of believable.
christian maxwell
It's believable in my opinion.
phil labonte
Yeah, and Ice Cube might have killed people in the past.
Like, he came from a rough neighborhood.
I wouldn't want to set his bus on fire personally.
christian maxwell
Maybe it'll bring him over to our calls.
tim pool
So, apparently, he said he's not taking it as a personal attack.
That could have been anybody who did it or whatever.
phil labonte
That's good.
tim pool
I'm going to go ahead and assume that whoever did it, it's probably whether the motivation was left.
It was one of these crackpot Portland protesters because it's not the lady who owns the boutique shop in Portland doing it.
christian maxwell
No.
phil labonte
And they were probably on drugs.
christian maxwell
Portland has been under siege since the pandemic started.
Like, they've been in a non-stop protest and anarchy.
phil labonte
Which speaks to my earlier point of they should have been arresting people that assault themselves.
christian maxwell
No, they just, they were like, oh, let's just give you privacy.
phil labonte
Give them space.
christian maxwell
Give you the city, and you'll come down.
And they never calmed down.
phil labonte
You should have arrested them all, thrown them all in jail.
christian maxwell
Streets, light and fires.
ian crossland
Does ICE mark their vans?
Does it say ICE on the ICE?
phil labonte
Sometimes some of them will, and some of them don't.
tim pool
Yeah, no, it depends.
And I think it doesn't say ICE specifically.
Border Patrol does.
It's white with a green band.
It says Border Patrol on it.
The ICE fans.
Let me see if I can find the photo of these vans that got shot.
We do have them.
Let me pull this up so you can take a look at it.
christian maxwell
Because people are working so hard to figure out where ICE is going to be now, like in Chicago, Black Club.
tim pool
They're not unmarked.
christian maxwell
No.
tim pool
There's writing on the front.
I'll try and see if I can get a better image of what it says.
christian maxwell
Why would they think he would have a tour bus for ICE?
tim pool
Man, these images are all small.
You can't read anything.
So this is the thing about the shooter at the ICE facility.
When the left is all like, he was shooting detainees.
He didn't know that these vehicles were for detainee transport.
He just saw ICE vehicles and started shooting at them.
ian crossland
The reason I asked is because I feel like the path that seems like is happening is that at some point ICE will be like, we can't mark our vehicles anymore because we're too easy to target.
Then they'll have unmarked vehicles.
Then they'll be like, we can't show anybody's face because it's too dangerous.
Then they'll all have stormtrooper armor on.
And they'll be like, now we all have digital ID.
They want like, which did just Kier Starmer in England yesterday was like, we're all going to have digital ID now because the problem they created of the mass immigration, now they're going to try and fix the problem they created with even more problems.
tim pool
It's called Problem Reaction Solution.
ian crossland
Yeah, it's like it's textbook totalitarian governance.
tim pool
Textbook Alex Jones, circa.
ian crossland
Thank you, Alex.
Thank you for reading that.
christian maxwell
Most popular name in London, Muhammad.
Like the biggest thing for babies.
Yeah.
tim pool
Or for boys.
christian maxwell
Yeah.
ian crossland
I'd rather not go down this path, but at the same time, it feels like the empire, you know.
christian maxwell
That felt well, London's falling.
London has fallen.
tim pool
As of 2023, Muhammad is officially taking the top spot in England as the most popular baby.
So not even just London, England.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Wow.
christian maxwell
It's really bad.
tim pool
Overtook Noah.
christian maxwell
Yeah.
Your whole culture has shifted.
It happened.
ian crossland
In the United States, you can't even blame Joe.
I mean, you can kind of blame Joe Biden when he said surge the border, negligent near dementia, but it was almost this emergent apathy that.
tim pool
Bro, the stuff we are learning about James Comey that we've learned about him and not even just him, but Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama.
Actually, you know, and we'll talk about it in a second with the new information about what happened on J6.
I mean, it's pretty patently obvious that we had a rogue anti-American faction in control of our institutions and our government for this period for a long time.
ian crossland
I think it began at 9-11.
I mean, I watched the entire country change after 9-11 with the Patriot Act and the way people were like, whatever you want, government, you're in control now.
christian maxwell
Take the wheel.
phil labonte
I don't know if I agree with that.
ian crossland
Ooh, I remember September of 2001, how normal it was.
unidentified
And then all of a sudden.
phil labonte
All of a sudden, what?
ian crossland
All of a sudden, it mattered more what George Bush said than anybody else.
phil labonte
There was a significant terror attack on 9-11.
What is it that you were, what is it that you think like, so going into, aside from going to Iraq, because Iraq was a terrible, terrible, debauched idea.
What is it aside from that you think was the major change where someone, a nefarious organization that didn't love America took over?
Is that what the, because that's kind of what Tim was saying.
ian crossland
That was like a mask off moment.
I mean, it's been at it since the 1930 business plot when they tried to march 400,000 men on Washington, D.C.
tim pool
Yeah, but let's pause because the creation of liberal economic order after World War II was a substantially different set of circumstances from the business plot.
And so I believe the liberal economic order was the principal turning point for this country in which we had the birth of the Uniparty.
And you get it.
I mean, the International Monetary Fund, the Bank for International Sentiments, all of these things that were created in the wake of the U.S. and its European allies being like, it's time for us to own the world.
That is when in 2016, Trump got in and was like, no.
And then they were like, we can't let him dismantle this.
ian crossland
Yeah, they did with the Federal Reserve.
That was like the fascists foot in the door.
Then the business plot was their blatant attempt at the fascist coup.
And that guy, Smedley Butler, blew it up.
And they're like, no.
tim pool
Fascist isn't not the right way to describe it.
ian crossland
Well, they said it's going to be a fascist coup.
Smedley, can you lead a fascist coup on the government?
We want to overburden it.
tim pool
They literally reverted to it.
ian crossland
It was either communism or fascism.
That was what people were thinking at that point in history.
And they're like, we want to do a fascist government.
christian maxwell
When this big uptick in not-for-profits took over America, like not-for-profit business is such a major job, like jobs category in America.
And I feel like that's driving a lot of how Congress is behaving because a lot of the money gets funneled sometimes from those not-for-profits into their campaigns.
Like these people are not raising the amount of money that you think they're raising for their campaigns.
They're getting it via these alternative routes.
And you have so much money that's going into not-for-profit donations.
And then it's just, they don't have to disclose things the way that you would think they have to disclose it.
And I think that that's really caused a lot of the corruption.
Even in states like Illinois, Pritzker has a not-for-profit that he exclusively uses to lobby and to influence elections.
So he can go into other states and influence their elections with his not-for-profit.
And that's how he's been swaying people's elections is via that.
tim pool
Correct.
Explicitly and overtly fascist was the business plot.
ian crossland
It was bankers and their names are public.
Oh, man.
The media just was like, we'll just not mention this.
I mean, the business plot is the most fascist.
phil labonte
I mean, look, looking at historical things with modern eyes is one thing.
But like prior to the prior to Mussolini and prior to the Nazis' specific unique version of fascism, fascism wasn't looked at in the same way that we look at it today.
Right?
ian crossland
Like, it wasn't inherently evil.
phil labonte
So it's a, it's a, the way, and I feel like the way that we're talking about it here, or at least the way that you're, you're talking about it, doesn't, it only sees it from a, a modern perspective.
ian crossland
I do think the word fascist has been used like a cudgel lately.
But we're all in a fascist, partly fascist system, like 13% fascist.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, look, so like in Chile, right, Chile was a fascist.
Pinochet was a fascist dictator, and he was, he was pretty, he was fairly brutal.
But like at the end of his, his reign, like he left power.
I think he died.
But like they didn't continue on.
There wasn't another dictator after that, if I remember correctly.
And I'm not super well versed on it, but they had like fashion.
You can have a fascist government that goes away.
You can vote a fascist.
There are even fascist governments that are voted out.
So the idea that the way that people think of fascism today implies Nazism, right?
It's almost like it's synonymous for Nazism, and it's not.
Nazism, pardon me?
christian maxwell
And racism.
They lump it all in together.
phil labonte
that's that's true but fascism frequently did have racist uh racist connections because they were very very nationalistic and and um and ethnicity mattered and stuff like that but i just i just want to point out like or i at least want to you know shed light on when you say fascist people think nazi yeah nowadays right even though nazis were a very specific and a unique form of fascism they aren't it is not the same as as
other fascist uh governments right mussolini particularly was hardcore like state-owned control everything kind of thing which people think that's what fascism but it's just like like when trump used government funds to buy 10 of intel that was a fascist move no that wasn't fast yeah it was buying part of a corporation no because because the corporation still has like their own agenda well like one of the things of it yeah 90 of it nine so that's like that's not that's not fascism like if you're a fat if you listen because
in a fascist government the fascists would the government would go and say these are the things that the government wants and you can stay in business and you can make profit and you can keep your property but you need to work towards the ends that the government wants so if you have if you have 90 of your business that's working to do whatever you want and make profit for your your uh shareholders and only 10 of the government is owned by the government that's not the government controlling what you do well there's a
a small part of that is being controlled but that's not fascist the point is no no no no no fascist or not fascist it's not one or zero the point is in a fascist government they demand that companies do what is do what the government wants them to do work towards the same end that the government has if the companies have the freedom to do other things to do whatever they want with 90 of their their resources and only a portion of it goes to the what the government at the ends the government
ian crossland
wants that's not fascism pointing out that's just the government having a stake in the in in the company but it's not that a government is or isn't fascist governments can have fascist aspects and some of those are okay hold on okay hold on Ian what does fascism mean the way i think of it is corporate government collusion like communism you mean similar but they use money to soft influence they don't actually own the stuff i mean you could argue that it's communist to buy 10 of intel but
it's it's more of like soft influence behind the paywall basically what is that what do you mean it's not overt ownership it's like control of corporations through media manipulation fascist fascism so what you're saying what trump is doing is communist because they're i mean you could argue it is more communist than fascist but it would technically be both i mean you know but the fascism what's the distinction between the two two and Thank you.
What's that?
tim pool
What's the distinction between the two?
ian crossland
That in a communist state, the government would own the means of production.
It would own the companies.
unidentified
Okay.
ian crossland
And owning technology.
The country of a company is a little different.
tim pool
So fascism is when you own some of it.
Communism is when you own all of it?
ian crossland
Communism, definitely when you own all of it, you might be able to make the argument that fascism is a road to communism.
I mean, if they start to, it's just, he put it on the bottom of the city.
tim pool
I don't think you know what either of these words mean.
ian crossland
Well, I know that communism is state-controlled business.
tim pool
State owns the socialism is the economic structure of what you're referring to.
Communism is the political philosophy that encompasses the economic structures.
ian crossland
We all own it.
tim pool
Fascism has a few different definitions, but it's largely a reference to authoritarian traditionalism.
Communism is authoritarian progressivism because totalitarian systems can take many different forms.
The communist philosophy largely was based on we are all equal, the blank slate.
The fascist ideology was largely based on the strong must survive and there is no truth but power.
So that's the difference.
How your economy functions isn't necessarily a component of either of these ideologies.
ian crossland
No, it's I kind of agree with that.
Yeah, but the Federal Reserve is a fascist function by giving the private company control of our monetary supply.
tim pool
One argument was that fascism was the lucrative merger of corporation and state.
The only problem is that's just an economic system that could exist in any country, even if it's not totalitarian, if it has a strong culture.
So that's why I've never been a big fan of that definition as the whole of fascism.
What you find with the Italians and the Nazis when people tend to describe fascism is that they were very much traditionalist, nationalist, authoritarian.
When you look at the communists, they were progressive, globalist, authoritarian.
So one could make the argument, you know, Hitler wanted to rule the world.
Sure, the ideology for the Nazis is not necessarily fascism, as Phil was pointing out.
The general idea was ultra-nationalism, and the communists were like, we will control everything.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
And everyone will be equal under the blank slate.
christian maxwell
Labor is everything.
tim pool
Yeah, and men and women are, it doesn't matter if you're a man or a woman.
It doesn't matter, you know, very much anarcho-tyranny-like.
Fascism was very much rigid, authoritarian hierarchy.
And, you know, it's a simple way to describe both of these ideologies, I suppose, especially when you look at the turn of the century.
Now, I think the problem we have in this country is all people can do is cite someone else.
christian maxwell
Yeah.
tim pool
Instead of, I don't know, make up a new word.
But we don't have that kind of academia.
And largely, these ideas took decades to cement themselves in the psyche of the public.
So can we call what we're seeing today from the U.S. government communism or fascism?
I mean, technically, because there's similarities, but it's so different.
So people say gay race communism because they're trying to add qualifiers to justify what it is, even though it's somewhat different.
I think the reality is no one has just written the academic paper with a new phrase describing it.
People have tried to claim it's called Trumpism.
Right.
ian crossland
And what is that?
Technocracy, but that's...
tim pool
It's not.
ian crossland
It could be a neutral good thing.
You know, it doesn't have to be evil.
Like, fascism, I think, is evil by nature.
unidentified
Why?
ian crossland
But it creates order.
Because it usually strips rights away from the common man and gives it to the central authority.
tim pool
But what if everyone in a country likes that and they vote for it?
christian maxwell
And they've given it away.
ian crossland
You get Mussolini.
phil labonte
Look, Mussolini.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
So honest question.
Question for you, Ian.
Is communism evil?
ian crossland
It's like a political philosophy, but it tends towards suffering.
So, yeah, I think.
tim pool
You said fascism was evil, right?
ian crossland
Yeah, I think it tends towards suffering.
tim pool
And so communism is evil too?
Yeah, that's safe to say.
If there is a nation of 500,000 people and they vote for communism, they go communist and they all celebrate and cheer and never been happier.
Should we shut down their evil system or just let them do what they want?
unidentified
Well, interesting.
ian crossland
I guess it's like, do no harm, you know, but if they start infringing on your rights, you have to do something.
tim pool
On whose rights?
ian crossland
On your rights.
tim pool
I'm saying there's a country.
You don't live in it.
ian crossland
They're spying on you.
tim pool
They've got 500,000 citizens.
They vote for communism.
They never leave.
They're happy.
They don't go to war with anybody.
They grow their own food.
They mind their own business.
And they have 100% happiness rate among the population.
ian crossland
That would be really good.
tim pool
So is that evil?
ian crossland
I think communism is evil because it strips rights away from the individual.
tim pool
Even if the people vote for it and they're happy for it.
Yeah.
ian crossland
People can vote for evil and be happy.
tim pool
And they're not affecting anybody or aggressing on anybody else, and they're all living in their communist utopia.
ian crossland
But when you centralize authority, those people tend to go nuts.
tim pool
That's not my question.
ian crossland
Okay.
tim pool
I'm asking.
ian crossland
If your hypothetical system functions, you'd have like Bhutan.
tim pool
The point I'm making is that what is evil about communism is that they force you into it with a gun to your head.
If there was a fascist system where people were like, we want to build our own community just for people like us, where we're going to have these rules and you don't get to vote, and they all say, we would like to enter into that system.
And they don't aggress against anybody.
They've consented to it.
They live there.
They're happy.
There's no human rights abuses.
It's just the government is in control and tells people what they can and can't do.
And they say, we're happy with that.
ian crossland
It could work.
tim pool
So is it evil?
The issue is not how people choose to live when they choose to live that way.
The issue is that fascists took it by force and abused people who didn't fit in.
And the communists largely do the same thing, take it by force.
And in both of these systems, through the force, they enrich themselves at the top.
ian crossland
In the 1913 Federal Reserve Act, it was done not through force.
It was done through legislation.
The fascists took the power.
christian maxwell
Well, I think even if we're thinking about real-time examples of not communism or fascism, but if we're looking at even like what's happening in Illinois where the rhetoric, the story is just being changed.
What I see often when I'm talking to people who live in Illinois who are still voting for Pritzker and things like that, they don't know.
They don't know the truth.
They actually don't really know it because they're still citing sources like the Washington Post.
You know, they're reading what they believe is reputable sources.
And I think that when you start to change narratives and people can't make an educated decision, like he said, they're not choosing Pritzker from an educated place.
They're choosing Pritzker based on a narrative that's been implanted in them.
And they feel confident in that narrative, but that narrative is not the truth.
And I think that when manipulation is implanted, that is when you have evil or inherent evil, like you see it.
tim pool
The NPC meme.
That really describes these people.
And you know what?
If the NPCs all want to go live in Venezuela and their socialist utopia, then I got no problem with that.
christian maxwell
Go do it.
phil labonte
Ian, I just put in Slack.
I just sent you a book about fascism.
You should take a look at it.
tim pool
I want to pull up this story, though.
We'll jump to this from the post-millennial.
ICE arrests an illegal immigrant from Guyana who served as Des Moines school superintendent.
Roberts entered the U.S. on a student visa in 1999.
This is where the debate gets real interesting.
On Friday, ICE arrested a Guyanese national who'd been serving as a superintendent of Des Moines Public Schools.
Ian Andre Roberts was found to be in possession of a loaded handgun, $3,000 in cash, and a fixed-blade hunting knife.
Officers approached Roberts and his vehicle after identifying themselves as immigration enforcement agents.
He allegedly sped away.
His vehicle was later discovered abandoned near a wooded area.
Roberts was taken into custody after Iowa State Patrol assisted in locating him.
He had a gun.
Let's see.
Des Moines school board chair Jackie Norris said in a statement, pursuant to the board-approved DMPS leadership succession plan, Matt Smith, Associate Superintendent, will immediately step into the role.
Our priority is to provide a safe and secure and outstanding education for all students, blah, blah, blah.
Oh boy.
This guy who's been here for 26 years got hired to work in our government, government job.
And then when he was approached by ICE, he fled armed.
This guy should be allowed to stay in our country?
No way.
phil labonte
Send him back to South America.
christian maxwell
I think it also speaks to a lack of verification for people who actually win elections.
Like we don't do much vetting at all of the people who win elections.
We don't do mental health vetting, actual health vetting.
Like there's not much being checked for these people who win these elections.
Like that's why you have a lot of people who are mentally unstable in Congress right now.
Like, why are we not checking more stuff?
Like, even for me, like, I'm running in Congress for Congress and I'm like, I was waiting for somebody to come and like, you know, ask me questions and say, hey, here's this thing you got to fill.
No, there is nothing.
Anybody can run for Congress.
ian crossland
What do you think they should ask?
Or how do you think they should?
christian maxwell
I think that your mental health should be assessed.
Like, but for my, like, for my husband, he's an officer.
His mental health has to be assessed by multiple at multiple stages of that because he's going to be trusted to have a weapon and to go, you know, apply the law.
Like, for the Congress, they're writing legislation.
You know, like, we need to know, are you actually competent?
And why don't we know that?
phil labonte
Communist Control Act, too.
We should reinstate that.
ian crossland
What about if people have a medical marijuana card?
christian maxwell
You said if you have one?
ian crossland
If someone ran for office and won an election, but they have a medical card.
christian maxwell
What do you have it for?
I mean, mental health.
What?
Ask them for what?
ian crossland
The doctor actually asks you that question when you get the medical marijuana card.
Why are you back pain?
tim pool
No, no, man.
I mean, no, no, man, it's stressed.
The medical marijuana card is not to better my mental health.
It's to worsen it.
christian maxwell
I mean, I'm not going to speak on that one.
I just want to know who people are.
Like you said, I don't want you.
There's some mental health concerns that probably don't make you viable to write legislation.
And that's okay.
I think that that's an okay thing to say.
ian crossland
Oh, I brought up weed because like red flag laws, things where they're like, hey, in the past, you did this thing.
tim pool
Wait, red flag laws?
ian crossland
Anything like you?
tim pool
Red flag laws is when they say, we've determined that you're a threat to yourself and others.
So we've come to confiscate your weapons.
ian crossland
Right.
So something similar like, we've determined you are a threat to this or that, so you can no longer run for office, kind of something like that.
tim pool
Where's that at?
unidentified
Yeah.
christian maxwell
That just the way if you're saying I'll be more so going for basic stuff, like be, you know, probably be a U.S. born citizen.
I think that's a real simple benchmark.
Be a U.S. born citizen.
I think, because right now, seeing Ilhan Omar literally go to bat for Somalia from our capital blows my mind.
I think that you should be a U.S. born citizen to be in Congress.
tim pool
Well, this is the heritage American argument that the left has called white supremacy.
christian maxwell
Yeah, no.
tim pool
When you actually talk to these guys, like Tucker Carlson was asked about this is hilarious.
He was in Australia and they said the race, the white supremacists, great replacement theory.
And he's like, white people.
And then they said, well, you've argued that white people are being replaced.
And he was like, no, I didn't.
He was like, I said that Americans aren't being replaced because the interests of black Americans are the same as the interests of white Americans.
And they're being replaced by immigrants.
christian maxwell
Yes.
tim pool
I also love when he was still on Fox and he says, he goes, black people, I don't have a problem with black people.
I have a problem with white liberal women.
And it's like, just comes out and said it.
ian crossland
I got to say, Christian, I fully believe with the hypothesis that you're stating that the popularity contest of voting and getting in office isn't good enough.
Just so you can, whoever's the most popular gets it.
christian maxwell
So it's actually a money contest.
It's really, it's not even about popularity because I'm more popular than Jonathan Jackson right now.
I'm way more popular than Jonathan Jackson.
He has more money than me, though.
ian crossland
What's he using it for?
christian maxwell
He's using it for Ubers.
unidentified
What do you mean?
tim pool
Well, maybe.
christian maxwell
His last financial report had like 15K in Ubers.
ian crossland
Oh, so he's able to travel around.
christian maxwell
Yeah, like most of his campaign money goes to Ubers and dinner.
tim pool
Are you allowed to make?
I guess technically you could make a campaign commercial that seems to be like pro a candidate, but it's actually not.
So it's like you have it, you like you make an AI commercial and you do this.
I think you do a disclaimer where it's like this commercial is a generative.
And then it's, it's like he's just like a villain with twirling his mustache being like, I'm going to destroy your lives.
christian maxwell
That would be awesome.
I did one like that for Fisker.
And I was like, you know what?
I love, I love going to my car and not knowing if it's going to be there in the morning.
phil labonte
You're like, man, that kind of excitement.
You can't get anywhere.
christian maxwell
And I love getting paid and wondering how much of my check I'm going to be able to keep.
Like how much is Priskerlin letting me keep this week?
Because I don't want to have enough to pay my bills.
Like I'm just, you know, and people like we're cracking up and they're like, yeah, this is like actually how we're living.
And it's like, yeah, this is how we live.
ian crossland
And I felt like the rich people that you said if money can get you politics is that they use that money to buy popularity.
christian maxwell
Yeah.
Or to make it appear.
tim pool
Yeah, it's hard to do, but possible, and it's very expensive.
But that's basically politics.
Commercial words.
Most people at the highest level of politics, if they actually had the charisma, they wouldn't need to get into politics to get a seat in office.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
So then what ends up happening is the people who actually want to get in to do the right thing aren't the people that are trying to sell you snake oil.
Yep.
christian maxwell
It's like a Raja guy who's running in Illinois right now.
Like literally, I cannot watch a single YouTube video without his ad coming out first.
phil labonte
Yeah.
christian maxwell
Like this man has to be dumping money.
I can't, I can't avoid the ads.
phil labonte
I can't.
christian maxwell
He has the first spot on every video.
And he's like, yeah, you know, my name has 26, my last name has 26 letters.
And if yours does, I'm not saying you're playing.
phil labonte
I was like, what?
Improve this campaign.
ian crossland
I get along with Bernie Sanders when he says, get money out of politics, although it's a little hyperbolic, exactly.
Like it's so undefined.
Because me talking right now is worth $1,200 an hour.
I mean, this amount of publicity at least.
tim pool
You can't do it because let's say there was a local race in town and it was, you know, Ian versus this local pastor who's lived in the town for his whole life.
Just by being on this show, no one's going to hear who that guy is and he can't afford it.
And you're not spending any money to be here because you would use the money.
In fact, you're getting money to be here.
ian crossland
People would use the money to buy a seat on a show like this.
So it's like, well, we don't get money out of politics, but you can still make a YouTube video and have a million subscribers.
tim pool
You know, I'll be honest, we don't allow people to pay to come on the show, but there are a lot of shows that do.
And they are.
I'm not going to call them out.
ian crossland
Sure, sure.
phil labonte
Yeah.
ian crossland
You're booking agents.
christian maxwell
You need to bring back earned media.
And that's one thing I think has really been great about my campaign is that all of the placements I've gotten have been earned.
And they've been earned because I was, you know, I said something that aligned for people.
Like, I haven't paid for any of the, you know, spots that I've had, any of my accounts that have grown.
It's been because people resonated with what I said.
So I think that for a lot of these politicians, like if you go look at all of Jonathan Jackson's pages, mine dwarf his.
And it's because I'm relatable to the people in Congressional District 1, but also Illinois.
Like Illinoisans understand my story.
He hasn't, he hasn't had any real struggles that are relatable to Illinoisans.
You know, the struggle of being a Nepo, like, okay, that's tough, I guess, you know, you know, living in your dad's, you know, shadow, but it's like he's just not a relatable leader for Illinois.
And that's why he, you know, he really does need to kind of relinquish the position and be voted out because Illinois is in dire need of true politicians who will actually do the work of writing relevant legislation.
ian crossland
This democratization of media narrative with internet video is great for politics in a way.
But at the same time, there's still the popularity contest where the most beautiful click button person will get without any substance.
It's possible still.
I don't know how to, like you're saying, like plus human nature.
christian maxwell
So you can't get human nature out of it, though.
ian crossland
And beauty helps a politician when they're in office, go do diplomacy overseas and things like that.
christian maxwell
But charisma is also important for a politician.
So I think that, you know, trying to get rid of charisma is not really the goal because at the end of the end of the day, if you're trying to get legislation pushed through that helps your state, you do have to be able to implore people and get them on your side to actually vote for your bill.
Right now, if you go look at a lot of legislators like from your own state or wherever you all live, most of them are not getting any real legislation pushed through.
They're literally writing like 50 bills and like they're never even getting voted on.
Like go look at what the stage that most of these bills are stuck at.
They're literally stuck at the beginning stage, never even left, got put on the floor to talk about.
ian crossland
Because there's no one to speak about the bill to the populace.
There's no one for charismatic.
christian maxwell
Like Congress isn't even talking about the bill.
That's how bad it is.
Like they'll write a bill and then Congress isn't even talking about it.
That's what it's getting thrown in the back, like trash can.
phil labonte
That's what Congress wants, though.
The less they have to do, the happier they are.
Because if you actually vote on something, then you're going to be held to account by your constituents.
If you don't do anything, then you can be like, well, you know, it was them darn Republicans.
Well, you know, it's them darn Democrats.
We couldn't do it.
And it was the Democrats being obstructionist, the Republicans being obstructionist.
So the incentive is to not do anything except for the very like benign, simple things.
christian maxwell
You might not be wrong.
phil labonte
It's true, man.
That's why you see, that's why there's always an omnibus bill.
That's why we always have such an issue.
christian maxwell
Such a rush work.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
You know, and I mean, look, next week, there's the issue with whether or not there's going to be a shutdown.
Democrats are going to trying to blame Donald Trump and the Republicans are saying, well, you know, if the Republicans would just sit down and talk to us, just sit down and talk to us.
And the Republicans are like, we're not giving you health care.
We're not giving you health care for illegals.
Just pass the bill.
Just pass a clean CR, which is a continuing resolution to pay for.
That's all they're going to say is just pass a clean CR.
Pass a clean CR.
Just pass a clean CR without anything.
We're not giving you any kind of funding for illegal health care because that's what they want.
And they're going to try and blame it on each other and be like, well, you know, it's their fault.
Well, you know, it's their fault.
And really at the end of the day, they're happy if they don't have to put their name on anything.
unidentified
So.
ian crossland
Well, I guess somehow defying the popularity contest of politics, I am concerned with people developing reasons why you can't do it if you're an American citizen.
Like a stupidity test is like, you know, it's been 200 years that we haven't allowed it to be.
christian maxwell
Intellect has to be.
unidentified
I don't know.
christian maxwell
I got to start before.
tim pool
Yeah, universal suffrage.
I'm not a big fan of.
ian crossland
Who gets to write these stupidity tests?
That's the problem.
tim pool
That's fair.
And those old tests they would do were like trick questions, but I believe there should be some kind of barrier for voting.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
For voting.
ian crossland
That's different than running.
Okay.
For voting, you know.
christian maxwell
I don't know.
I saw all the tests my husband had to go through, and that was a lot of evaluations just, you know, to be an officer.
I'm like, if you go on to Capitol Hill, like they need to check these people more.
Like, I don't think this should be.
tim pool
Could you imagine if like AOC was unable to get there?
Like she won the election, but then they were like, you failed the test.
christian maxwell
Don't even let them run.
I mean, like, don't even waste the time on running because then people lost their candidate.
Like, you know, if you, I don't know.
Like, I think that it's a huge privilege to be able to go and represent a whole district.
It's 770,000 people in my district.
If I can't even comprehend their concerns, how could I ever represent 770,000 people if I can't comprehend what their concerns are?
And then what are the tools I can use to fix their concerns?
tim pool
Well, how does Jasmine Crockett do it?
christian maxwell
She's not doing it.
She hasn't passed any legislation.
tim pool
That's the point.
christian maxwell
She hasn't had a single piece go through.
tim pool
She can't comprehend what her constituents are.
christian maxwell
No, and she doesn't even like her constituents.
She said multiple times that she doesn't think Texas should lead anything.
She hates Texas.
phil labonte
Where's she from?
christian maxwell
From St. Louis.
She's not from Texas.
phil labonte
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
christian maxwell
Yeah.
ian crossland
How long has she lived in Texas?
phil labonte
Just long enough to do that.
christian maxwell
I think she moved there right before.
Yeah.
ian crossland
Well, I think you should have to live in your state for at least five years before you run for state office.
christian maxwell
I'm not opposed to that.
ian crossland
At least five years.
christian maxwell
I mean, because, I mean, like, like for me, I'm like, I wouldn't, I actually wouldn't have met the five years because I was in Texas for four years, but I'm born and raised in Illinois.
I've lived my entire life.
I'm 35 in Illinois with the exception of four years.
So it's like, I understand what's happening in southern Illinois, which is why I get what's happening in the southern portion of my district because the Will County and Kankakee County area is just like where I grew up.
You know, it's rural, it's slower pace.
You know, it's a lot of, it's farming and it's just, it's working class people who just need for life to be a little bit more predictable because their income is predictable.
They get the same check every two weeks.
They can't afford for prices to just be skyrocketing.
And then you have the city life.
So it's like, I think that, yeah, you should have to live in your state and really get it.
ian crossland
Maybe it could be that you have to live in a state for eight years and four of those years have to be consecutive, current, current and consecutive.
christian maxwell
I'm not opposed to that.
tim pool
How about you can't fundraise from outside your district where you're running?
christian maxwell
I think that would disproportionately impact districts where it's a little bit more poor.
So like right now, think about central Illinois.
Like if like those people would probably struggle if they couldn't.
tim pool
That means the candidates that are running all those areas are even.
AOC would not be in office.
christian maxwell
Actually, there's merit to that.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Yeah.
So we've had this discussion before because the squad famously, like 99% of the money they raised for the candidacy came from outside of their district.
So what ends up happening is this.
AOC does not represent her district.
No.
So then how is it that she wins?
She represents commies all over the country.
Let's say you've got 100 cities.
99% of each of these cities is normal American, but each city has one commie.
If you try to run to represent one of these cities, you can't win.
You go knock on doors, say, I'm a commie, give me money.
They say, no.
So what do you do?
You go online and you tell all of the cities of the country, I'm a commie, you're a commie, give me your money and I'll win here.
They do.
All of a sudden, where you live, you now have more money than anyone else in your town, despite the fact none of them like your politics.
You use that money to run ads.
These people don't know really what's going on, so they vote for you because they don't, because you have money.
And then that's literally AOC's story.
christian maxwell
It is.
tim pool
She does not represent her district.
She got tons of money from outside her district.
So did Ilhan Omar.
To be fair, she does represent the Somali community.
unidentified
She does.
tim pool
Yeah.
christian maxwell
She's their candidate.
tim pool
Right.
christian maxwell
Johan Omar is a representative of her district.
But like right now, the person who's running against Jasmine Crockett, Shoulden Daniels.
He's actually born and raised in that area.
Like he understands the plight of TX30.
And it's like, those are candidates you should be seeking out.
But it makes it so hard for the average citizen to go seek out a real candidate because like states like Illinois, they're going to literally fight you tooth and nail, you know, on making these things happen.
And then in my state, also, there's a really, a real big lack of grassroots movement.
Like right now, we need people to come and knock doors.
But a lot of Illinoisans, like they're, I understand, they're busier than ever.
You know, their time is short.
And then right now they're probably uncomfortable because of what happened to Charlie Kirk.
The idea of going and knocking doors doesn't feel comfortable, especially in a district like my district.
ian crossland
When is your election?
christian maxwell
The first election is primaries, and that's March 17th.
And then you have the actual election, which is November 3rd.
But right now, it's kind of like the pre-election is getting somebody on the ballot.
And I think that we need more Americans who understand how you even get to an election.
You have to actually sign petitions.
Like I need 547 petitions signed.
They're real paper because people keep asking me for a link.
I'm like, no, guys, it's not a link.
I'd be done with this if this was a link.
You know, you have to sign a real paper in person and it has to be notarized.
tim pool
Oh, man.
You got sold your field, don't you?
christian maxwell
I think, I don't think so.
I might have the, you know, it's, I have a strip.
I have a strip in Chicago.
So the strip is real thin.
You got to pull up the congressional map.
tim pool
I looked it up.
It looks like it might be.
Let's just double check.
christian maxwell
It might be, but I've missed that.
I don't know.
tim pool
Nope, nope, nope.
It's in the seventh.
You just missed it.
christian maxwell
So I'm like, yeah, the way they gerrymander my district.
Like, I'll think that I have something.
I'm like, oh, it's literally on the border and it's right outside.
But yeah, we need for a lot of people to really understand the whole process.
tim pool
Oh, it is.
Yep.
It just missed it.
ian crossland
How do you get people to sign the petition that's notarized?
christian maxwell
So they have to come see either a petition drive.
They can print it at their own home and then or sign it at their own home and then I have to come get it from them.
But it is a physical paper and that part is pretty hard.
tim pool
Yo, gerrymandering is so insane.
christian maxwell
It's a mess.
tim pool
Illinois is one of the worst gerrymandered states.
christian maxwell
Yeah, my district is, they literally carved out as many Republican parts from my district as possible.
They took out Greenwood, a lot of those areas where we're going to be able to do it.
tim pool
Let me pull it in and take a look at it.
Look at this.
christian maxwell
Look at how they carved out that big chunk.
tim pool
And so the thing is, when you see this strip in Chicago, what's actually fascinating is we're talking about literally like four blocks right here.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
That's crazy.
christian maxwell
It's so skinny right there.
tim pool
Wild.
christian maxwell
They designed that district for a black candidate to keep it.
tim pool
Woodlawn.
ian crossland
That's free.
I don't have the right words.
That's like a really gets worse.
Yeah.
Worse gerrymander.
It's worse.
Oh, man.
tim pool
The Illinois congressional map is something to behold.
christian maxwell
Yes.
tim pool
Let me pull this up.
And this is absolutely incredible when you look at this thing.
christian maxwell
It looks like something my two-year-old would draw.
tim pool
So take a look.
Take a look at 13.
13 is intentionally, look at 15, how it wraps around it.
It's so they could get Champaign and Springfield and East St. Louis in one district, which clusters all the Democrats together to give them federal representation.
It's insane.
Look at 15.
unidentified
I mean, that's like control R, refresh.
christian maxwell
Yeah, think about the people in 12.
Like, how are they ever going to have any access?
I was reading through the Constitution and I'm like, I feel like this is not constitutional because the people in 12 have little to no access to their representative.
How is a representative ever going to cover that much ground?
You don't have access to your representative.
And that's a really key part of having a representative is being able to actually get to them into their offices and be able to make your representation.
tim pool
Well, that's because by population.
And so Southern Illinois doesn't have that many people.
I think largely the issue is when you take a look at 13, Democrats.
That's terrible.
They're genius.
And when Pritzker was challenged on it, he deflected with a joke and said, we give it to kindergartners to do.
Everyone laughs.
And then it doesn't answer the question.
So he's got the nerve to attack Texas over their redistricting.
But Democrat states are substantially worse, like two to one.
christian maxwell
Yeah, if you pull up an old map, it looks so like, I forgot how far you got to go back, but it used to look more sensible.
And I'm like, this is terrible.
ian crossland
You can tell that they have to keep the district connected so they can't break it into two parts and say it's the same one district, but they're just abusing that rule.
Oh, yeah.
christian maxwell
No, people, it's so hard for me to tell people who lives in my district.
And they're like, well, I live in Orland.
I'm like, well, you might not live in the part that I have.
tim pool
Look at this.
Look at this.
1833 to 1843.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Then we can, then you get, look at that population that exploded.
christian maxwell
The fact that I have three counties in my district makes no sense.
tim pool
Look how they used to do it.
ian crossland
That's still reasonable.
tim pool
It is.
christian maxwell
That's reasonable.
tim pool
Yeah.
Even this, that's not bad.
You know, let's see.
It starts getting weird.
Wow, they had a lot.
ian crossland
Still looking good.
That's cool.
unidentified
It's still like, you're like, okay, it's kind of weird what they're doing right there, but it seems a little strange down there.
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, but it's like, it's, you know, and then it starts getting weird.
ian crossland
Oh, now we've got some weird shit on the right.
tim pool
Yeah, look, here's the power struggle.
Wait, where's the Civil War?
Let's go back to the Civil War.
So I guess it would be actually these two maps.
So this is into the start of the Civil War.
It's not bad.
They changed it right in the middle of the Civil War.
So, okay, I actually think that they'd go nuts with it.
This is actually not that bad.
Yeah, that's the 1800s.
They had a lot more districts, huh?
christian maxwell
Yeah, they had 20.
tim pool
When does it get real bad?
Okay, now it's starting to get bad.
christian maxwell
Look at Chicago.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Yeah.
ian crossland
That's the 60s.
tim pool
Look at this.
ian crossland
After the Liberal Economic Order got involved.
christian maxwell
Concentrating all those districts up there is like insane.
tim pool
But you know what really irks me about the Republican Party needs to get their ish together.
ian crossland
Oh, that's it.
That's the year it broke, 2000.
After 9-11, obviously, this is when everything just started to go.
tim pool
One of the big problems I see with the Republican Party.
I mean, you know what?
Just like, to be fair, Democrats and Republicans, both parties do this.
The Republican Party looks at Chicago and says, what's the point of trying to convince people because the Democrats have such a big lead?
And it's like.
christian maxwell
Don't even fight it.
tim pool
That's where you want to be.
You want to strike your message in the heart of their stronghold and force them to retreat back and try and maintain what they presume to be a stronghold.
Instead of trying to win like these swing districts, which are always amorphous, send them for a loop.
Dump a couple million bucks in this district.
Have them caught off guard when they're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, why are we down 10 points?
This is insane.
This is a D-plus district.
Not anymore.
It's not.
christian maxwell
No, I agree.
There's an org in Texas.
I was asking Chad GPT.
I was like, you know, who's had really great ground game in like the last decade?
There's an organization just for Texas called Battleground Texas, and their whole mission is to make Texas a battleground state.
They know that Texas is a Republican state, but their goal is to slowly erode it and to turn it into a battleground state.
tim pool
Do you think Brown game?
christian maxwell
They're like on the ground, like recruiting people to do like events and all types of things to start to really disseminate this whole, you know, Democratic, just like their mindset, like people by person by person.
tim pool
So the black population historically, or I should say in recent history, votes Democrat very heavy.
Do you think the issue of immigration is going to change the minds of these people to maybe vote Republican?
christian maxwell
I think that it's something that opens their ears.
It gets the conversation started because when they see that Democrats are literally rolling out the red carpet for people who are literally not American citizens and they're getting health care, schooling, all types of things, it's like, well, why haven't you helped black human?
tim pool
Yeah.
christian maxwell
Because that's what everybody says when they run.
And it's like, well, you could have been, did it if you wanted to, clearly.
So I think that it allows people to start to be like, well, let me just talk about it.
Because there's a conversation I got started recently about the Barack Obama presidential center, which is causing displacement in my district.
So he's not paying any property taxes on his presidential center because he built it on Parkland.
So this massive center will not add any property tax to the city of Chicago.
But already historical business or property owners in the district are seeing their property taxes literally double and triple.
And people who have owned buildings that they wanted their kids to live in are starting to lose their buildings because of this presidential center that's supposed to add to the community.
And it's like, well, think about it, guys.
Is it really going to add jobs to people who already live there?
Or is it going to import a whole new working class from all over the country and even other countries?
It's a research center.
tim pool
If you go and campaign in your district, let's say you do like a debate or town hall and you say, hey, the Democrats are famously giving hotels to illegal immigrants and free health care.
I'll give it to you instead.
Is the Democrat really going to be like, nah, you can't have it.
Illegal immigrants get it?
Or are they going to be forced to come off their perch and be like, okay, you're right.
We shouldn't do that.
unidentified
Yeah.
christian maxwell
I don't know.
I really don't know.
And it's like, I really do hope it's a wake-up call for a lot of, or even the independent voters.
It's like, hey, you got to really, you got to look at something different.
I've actually had some independent voters sign my petitions because at this point, they really, it is a wake-up call for them.
The crime thing coming to their doorsteps is also a big wake-up call right now because it's coming to places it's never come to before.
ian crossland
When they get your petition, do they download it from a website?
christian maxwell
I actually met these people in person.
So I went and just walked around.
Like I'm willing to go walk around and like get my petition signed.
It's not the safest thing, but I'm like, I'm willing to do it myself.
Tomorrow, I'm actually going back to do a walk in Homer Glenn.
ian crossland
Can people download your petition, get it notarized and bring it to you or contact you?
christian maxwell
They can't get it notarized.
They need to bring it to me and then I can get it notarized.
ian crossland
That's good.
Do you play?
Do you talk to the race card a lot or do you just eyeball it out?
Because you seem like just an intelligent person.
I don't, and like, do you go like black people, white people, or do you just talk to people?
christian maxwell
I just talk.
I really just talk based on what is, what feels common sense to me.
unidentified
All right.
christian maxwell
That's all I do.
I just talk about what's common.
I ask questions that are on my mind and I give takes based on what I see when I see crazy stuff happening.
tim pool
See, that's the Republican thing.
christian maxwell
Yeah, we just talk because these are real.
I think that that's why our movement is much more genuine and much more aligned with the average American.
tim pool
Yeah.
christian maxwell
It's because these are kitchen table conversations that we're all really having in real life.
Like Democrats posture so much and come up with these fake, you know, storylines like Kilmar being a Maryland man.
It's like, he's not, you know, like this stuff isn't real.
tim pool
Have you seen this story?
We love citing this story.
Less competent interactions with white liberals present themselves as less competent in interactions with African Americans.
Conservatives don't do that.
christian maxwell
No.
tim pool
Conservatives talk to everybody the same way.
Liberals try to like, have you ever seen the Ami Horwitz voter ID video?
One of the most legendary ministry videos ever done.
He goes to Berkeley and he asks these young white liberals, he's like, I've heard, you know, voter ID is racist.
Do you think it's racist?
And they're like, yes, it is.
It's like, why do you think voter ID is racist?
And these white libs say things like, black people don't know where the DMV is.
They don't have the internet.
And then he goes to Harlem in New York and then he's like, do you think voter ID is racist?
And he asks black people and they're like, no.
And he's like, do you have an ID?
And they're like, yeah.
He asks this young black guy and he's like, do you have an ID?
And he goes, Yeah.
And he was like, Do you know how to use the internet?
And he goes, Even little kid knows how to use the internet.
But my favorite interaction is when he goes to this older black guy, and he's like, Excuse me, I have a strange question for you.
Do you know where the DMV is?
And he goes, Yeah, if you go up to 25th, you want to make a left.
Like he was asking for directions because the idea is so absurd that people who literally have jobs and live and pay rent don't know how to do the basic function.
This is what liberals do.
ian crossland
It's got to be the identity pox has got to be injected by some foreign thing in the early 2000s.
christian maxwell
That's because they're not actually talking to black people.
They don't actually know black people.
This is why they're having dialogue about black people and they're coming up with what they think black people do.
And it's like, that's not us.
I'm not going to speak for all, but like they don't actually know real black people in real life.
And that's why they have these like these conjured up conceptions about what we can and can't do.
It's because they're not talking to us.
tim pool
The ID thing really is crazy.
christian maxwell
It's mind-blowing.
tim pool
Because like everybody as a teenager goes to get their ID.
christian maxwell
And they also said about married women.
They were like, oh my God, these dumb married women.
Their husbands, they don't even know where their marriage license is.
How are they ever?
Their name is different.
They're not going to know.
I'm like, I literally have to go get documents and things for my kids all the time.
I know how to prove my identity.
ian crossland
I'm really good at it.
tim pool
Well, but you know, women don't know how to file paperwork.
You know what they're?
I'm sorry.
What they're actually saying with all of this is that straight white Christian men are superior.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Like that's the world they live in.
ian crossland
Yeah, they'll say that.
christian maxwell
And you imprison women.
ian crossland
There's like a rhetoric where they go, black people are responsible for 30%, whatever the number is of the crimes.
Therefore, if you are a black person, you are 30 times more likely to.
No, in the past, that happened.
So that stat is there.
But there's a solution.
I think it's don't throw money at people.
People need nutrition because then your kids have healthier brain matter.
And people that are like descendants of slavery that came out of that system that didn't have education and nutrition, they had babies that didn't have the brain capacity.
I'm not saying everybody, but and then so if you can help like legitimize the nutrition quality for people, I think that their children's brains are much healthier and they're so much wrong with what you're saying.
The more crazy is that.
christian maxwell
I think if you think, look at Chicago right now.
They actually teach these kids in like elementary school that like white people are suppressing them.
So when you have a child who's literally bred to think in school that white people are suppressing them and there is nothing you can do to overcome that, that child grows up to think that white people are the enemy.
And then in Chicago, Chicago is segregated.
He can speak to this.
Everybody lives in their own neighborhoods.
So then black people also aren't having regular encounters with white people.
So they just know what they were taught in school.
tim pool
And other way around.
And then what ends up happening in these neighborhoods in Chicago is if someone from one race is in the other neighborhood, everybody's like, why?
christian maxwell
What are you doing?
ian crossland
I'm not even talking about poverty.
To get people out of poverty, you got to help them with nutrition because people out of poverty, people get themselves out of poverty.
unidentified
Yeah, exactly.
ian crossland
People, they thought if you threw money at them, they'd whatever.
But if they're literal nutrition over generations, lots of cheese.
tim pool
Lots of cheese.
We got to get this story and it's going to come into super chests.
We got to get it.
This is from Fox News.
Trump admin official physically assaulted at UNGA by deranged leftists.
The individual was charged with assault, attempted assault, aggravated harassment, and more.
This is crazy.
A Trump admin official was physically assaulted by a deranged leftist inside the UN Thursday afternoon during the gathering of the UN General Assembly.
Fox News has learned an official working in international relations for DH for HHS, serving in New York as a support role for RFK Jr., quote, an HHS official was followed into a bathroom, recorded, and physically assaulted and verbally accosted by a deranged leftist at the UN who somehow entered the venue past multiple layers of security.
White House Deputy Press Secretary Anna Kelly told Fox News, thankfully the official is safe and the lunatic was arrested.
But this is part of a disturbing and dangerous set of failures by the UN after their sabotage of President Trump ahead of and during his speech.
Kelly told Fox News Digital that the U.S. Secret Service will investigate how this violent protester was admitted Into a major national security event.
A source familiar told Fox News that the individual has been charged with assault, aggravated harassment, attempted assault, and criminal possession of a weapon.
Holy crap.
phil labonte
Wow.
tim pool
The individual was released from custody at 7:30.
Oh, of course.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Friday night and expected in court November 13th.
christian maxwell
We got to stop.
phil labonte
Kick him out, kick the UN out, get him out of New York, let him go somewhere else.
tim pool
Put him on a garbage barge.
phil labonte
There you go.
ian crossland
The UN walked out on Netanyahu during a speech.
Just a little tangent.
phil labonte
Send them all out.
Get them out.
unidentified
I don't know.
christian maxwell
The UK actually, I don't know if people even know about it, but people are so mad about, you know, alligator.
What is it?
tim pool
Alligator Address.
phil labonte
Alligator Address.
christian maxwell
I'm like, if you literally look it up, the UK actually had their migrants on a ship, an offshore ship.
They had them on an offshore ship and like didn't make a big scene about it at all.
But the issue is that when they were, they didn't want to keep releasing people back onto UK soil to then say, oh, I'm going to be honorable and come back if you don't, you know, give me actually access to the country.
So they were like exploring if they should put him on a ship.
And I'm like, this is, we're not the only country who wants to keep track of people who have not been granted full access to America.
It's a normal thing to be like, hey, you got to be in a holding status until you're.
phil labonte
I'm sorry.
I think you misunderstood me.
I'm not talking about illegal aliens or stuff.
I'm talking about the whole UN.
Get it out of New York.
christian maxwell
You said, no, the UN.
phil labonte
The whole UN, boot the UN out of the U.S.
The U.S. stop giving the UN money, boot them out of New York City, tear all those buildings down, put up housing, put up something, put a mall in there.
I don't care.
Make another Trump Tower.
Get them out of here.
We don't need the UN in the United States.
Their goals are in opposition to what the United States goals should be.
We are America first now.
We are not UN first.
Get them out.
Beat it.
You got to go.
You get it.
tim pool
Can we, can we like, how insane is it?
I grew up in Chicago.
I was always liberal.
And then what ends up happening is the Democrats are like, hey, we're going to give free health care to non-citizens.
We're going to let non-citizens vote.
We're going to give them hotels with PlayStations in them.
And I'm sitting there being like, but what about the people who live here?
And they're like, that's far right now.
That is far right now.
And I'm like, socialism.
I don't know what needs to happen, but I was mentioning to Christian earlier that I was talking to my wife about who the guest was.
Like, oh, the guest, she's a Republican running in Chicago.
My wife, who's from Chicago, and also like liberal, she's like, oh, thank God.
I'm like, we both, me and my wife and I both grew up in Chicago listening to punk rock music, rather, rather liberal, kind of like, you know, we had that anarcho-punk rock phase.
And now here we are as adults being like, Chicago needs to get away from the Democratic Party.
christian maxwell
Well, here's the thing.
I think that for a lot of people, you are only as free as, in order for freedom to exist, you have to have some type of structure around that allows for you to be free.
Like when you think about people who want to just live their life, it's really hard to live your life when your stuff's getting stolen.
You can't really live your life when your kids aren't safe at school.
phil labonte
Amen.
christian maxwell
You know, it's, you know, you should have, you got to have infrastructure in order to even be free and to be liberal.
Like, you got to have infrastructure.
tim pool
That's why Liberal issues.
ian crossland
It doesn't work at the global scale because they don't account for outside the borders really.
tim pool
I was trying to find property in Chicago back when I was like in my early 20s with some friends.
And we wanted to do business stuff, play music.
And we were looking for property we can afford.
And it was like every time we found a building that was nice enough to actually work and live in, bars on the doors.
And like.
christian maxwell
That's why I don't have a district office.
tim pool
You get the warnings of like, we'll make sure that, you know, everything, the lights are all off and you're locked up.
You may want someone to be here overnight.
And I'm like, I don't think I want to be here.
christian maxwell
No, that's not saying that.
phil labonte
Libertarians, libertarianism doesn't work because libertarians are gay.
ian crossland
Is that G-H-E-Y?
phil labonte
No, G-A-Y.
tim pool
No, like, yeah, the Libertarian Party is overwhelmingly all living, let live, but you need, you know, you need structure.
ian crossland
Like Christian, you were saying you need an outside fence around your live and let live energy, which is our military pointing the guns outward to defend our borders.
phil labonte
No, they don't hardly.
That's like there's too many libertarians that don't even want borders.
unidentified
Yep.
phil labonte
There are too many libertarians that say, no, there should be freedom of movement.
People should be able to be free to move.
christian maxwell
Well, then that's just libertarian.
I think people don't know the definitions of a lot of these titles that they've given themselves anymore.
And that's getting real weird.
phil labonte
There are a lot of leftists in the Libertarian Party that have, in my opinion, infiltrated the Libertarian Party and taken and basically bastardized it.
ian crossland
I think structure and order people take for granted because we've lived in a structured and ordered society for so long.
christian maxwell
We need it.
ian crossland
It's so important.
I was thinking the other night, I live in the woods and looking into the dark woods thinking, if this was 6,000 years ago and it was raining, I was crawling through the woods to survive and I found a walled village and they were like, you can come in.
And it's like, but you have to drink this blood and kill this child.
I'd be like, I'd have to make that decision.
It's like, do I want to live in the woods and die?
Or would I accept the horror to have order?
And order is so much more important when you're dying and you're desperate.
Like the things people are willing to do to regain order, to get order when they don't have it.
That's why we can't let it fall.
And it's important to protect our borders.
unidentified
Would you like to come back Monday?
ian crossland
Cities.
christian maxwell
Well, on a real note, this is why leftists are going to be.
phil labonte
Well, he was being serious.
unidentified
I know.
christian maxwell
Arming themselves because they're trying to go get order for what they want.
And they've been overwhelmingly starting to arm themselves.
That's why you see like there's like pages for gay leftists.
Well, that's like, they love Second Amendment rights because it serves their own.
tim pool
We'll throw this in.
We don't have enough time to do all of it, but there's this poster right here.
Hey, fascists, catch.
The John Brown Club is recruiting on college campuses by saying kill conservatives.
christian maxwell
Yep.
ian crossland
The Second Amendment is not instructing you to go do stuff.
It's giving you, acknowledging your right to defend yourself.
That's what that means.
Defense is not offense.
Although sometimes people say the best defense is a good offense.
Not really, not legally.
phil labonte
It is the real.
tim pool
The liberal economic order was like, let's go blow people up.
ian crossland
Let's build NATO surround Russia with defensive turrets pointing at Russia.
phil labonte
It is the right of the people to alter or abolish it is a part of the Declaration of Independence.
So yes, it is prescriptively defensive, but it is also intended to allow people to use force to change the government if the government has become destructive of what makes the populace happy.
That's in the in the Declaration.
ian crossland
Abe Lincoln, you can't make everybody in the Declaration.
Some of the time, but not all of the time.
phil labonte
In the Declaration.
Listen, I named a song, Some of the People All the Time, because of that exact phrase.
So I know what you're talking about.
But in the Declaration of Independence, it says, whenever any government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it.
And that is the point of the Second Amendment.
ian crossland
So that people, they feel like the government has become destructive of that with ICE, with the ICE raids?
phil labonte
There are people that think so.
They're wrong because they have representation and we have laws and we have borders.
So the people that are that feel like ICE is out of line are wrong and they're throwing a temper tantrum.
They're not correct.
And if they have a problem, they do have representatives that they can petition and they have redress of grievance.
And obviously they are still allowed to protest outside of ICE facilities.
So it's not time for violence at all.
It's not even close to time for violence.
The people that are engaging in violence are wrong and they should be wrapped up and put in jail because I like America the way that it generally is.
tim pool
Well, right now I'm pretty concerned about the way America is, but I do understand your point.
unidentified
We like the way America is designed to be.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
And the, you know, from the foundation of this country, there were a lot of really bad things, and the people have abolished those bad things and moved towards good things.
And now we have this sect of woke left, which wants to bring back the bad things.
christian maxwell
They want to harp on it so heavy.
tim pool
Like segregation, for instance, is a huge component of wokeness where they do these segregated graduations.
I don't know if you saw in like in Seattle, they had POC library meeting and non-POC.
So it's like, like, it's just, I don't want to live that way, man.
No, like, I can't live that way.
ian crossland
My big obsession is how the Constitution got pinholed.
I think Tim, you referred to it as Swiss cheese a couple of times.
It's like pinholes in the First Amendment and the Fourth Amendment.
I was going to throw my little finger on it.
tim pool
Bro, bro, bro.
All of the amendments.
phil labonte
All of the amendments.
tim pool
And no, yes.
ian crossland
Okay, okay, Tim.
I'm sorry.
tim pool
Resolved.
All of the amendments have been mercilessly beaten, except the first and the fourth.
ian crossland
the first with corporatization and internet now Apple or not Apple but a Google's parent company alphabet can turn off your what I kind of think this is the comments.
So many people use it and have access to it, the internet, social media.
phil labonte
Well, that's the thing.
You have to, you have a personal opinion about the modern internet as it being the commons.
The fact of the matter is you don't have to use any of that stuff.
You don't have to.
tim pool
My favorite amendment is the seventh.
ian crossland
Why?
tim pool
You know what it is?
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
It's the one that says you have a right to civil trial for things for items of value, $20 or more.
Because back then, they were basically saying, like, when will the public hold a trial over private matters?
20 bucks back then, I think, was like $250.
So they're like, at least $250.
Now it's literally a cheeseburger and you can go to court because of inflation.
But there was no Federal Reserve back then, so $20 was different.
ian crossland
Well, is going to change that to $250?
phil labonte
No.
tim pool
Well, you got to amend the Constitution.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
We don't need an amendment for that.
christian maxwell
No.
phil labonte
We're good.
tim pool
My favorite is, so first, the Tenth Amendment doesn't exist anymore.
ian crossland
Which one is that?
unidentified
Tell me.
tim pool
That's the right of the states is retained by the states.
So powers not given to the federal government belong to the states.
But this is actually an interesting question because the way the Constitution was supposed to work was that it pertained only to the federal government and the state's constitution pertained to the states.
But after the Civil War, when we became a unified nation, the federal constitution effectively was overwriting everything.
And so the 10th is gone.
And so the issue is like the Second Amendment wasn't supposed to be this thing where no matter where you were in the country, you could have a gun.
It was the federal government can't take your guns.
But if Illinois decided they could, Illinois could.
We've changed that now, and we've basically, the whole country is under the federal constitution.
So I take a look at the Bill of Rights, and the first and the fourth are probably the most protected.
ian crossland
Oh, the fourth is every text and email you send is being recorded.
It's being stolen and sent to a central database of a private company.
That is blatant violation of the Fourth Amendment.
tim pool
And the rest of them are worse.
The rest of them are worse.
We do got to grab rumble rants and chats because I know we went a little long.
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We got Prinz Prinzi, Russian oil crisis.
Russian media has been reporting gas shortages due to Ukrainian drone attacks on refineries.
What does this mean for the war in Ukraine?
Could this topple Putin's reign?
One could hope.
It's funny to me that people are like, they try to make the claim that Russia is somehow like the last bastion or of anti-woke or whatever.
And I'm like, he's an autocrat.
I don't know.
He's used, he's juggled power in his country.
He's not a good guy.
He invades other countries.
You don't got to pretend that he's a good guy because you don't like what Europe is doing.
I like Trump, not Putin.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
christian maxwell
Very clear distinction.
ian crossland
I like what they talk.
tim pool
I like when war stops.
christian maxwell
Yeah.
tim pool
And so I'm like, wow, if the strikes, if Ukraine wins this, then I'll be like, okay, whatever, just stop.
You know what I mean?
Like, however.
All right, Chan H. Wilder says, if these people want to riot, then I'm fine with bringing the National Guard into every one of these cities to curtail things.
It sucks, but as Ben Franklin said, a Republic, if you can keep it.
ian crossland
But he also said those that would give up their freedom for a little bit of security deserve neither freedom nor security.
tim pool
Indeed, he did not.
unidentified
It's not about security.
tim pool
It was a misquote.
christian maxwell
I think the National Guard should only be put into play when states are literally saying, we're not going to protect you.
So like with Brandon Johnson, him saying it's not about policing, it's about affordable housing.
He's declining to protect people who are being raped and robbed.
So with that being the case, it's like you can't just let people be raped and robbed.
So it's actually literally within the confines of bringing in the National Guard because the people are not being guarded on U.S. soil.
tim pool
I am being pedantic Ian.
I am being pedantic.
ian crossland
You missed a word or something.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Temporary.
ian crossland
They would give up temporary.
tim pool
So he says, essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
The reason why that's important is because we are not talking about temporary safety.
The argument he made is apt.
It's if you are concerned about a one-off incident, like you know that an enemy is coming from overseas, so you give up all your freedoms for that one thing.
That's stupid.
But if we're talking about a war that is going to be enduring for some time and we are saying that we have to engage in wartime affairs, you'd be a moron not to do it.
ian crossland
I was just picturing him sitting in that chair, man, fifth chair with us right now.
What he would say.
tim pool
Yeah, I imagine you were.
christian maxwell
That's fun.
ian crossland
Love it.
phil labonte
Love it.
tim pool
But the general idea is I don't want masked individuals marching through cities, cops.
You don't know who they are.
However, I also don't want far-left people doing the exact same thing.
I got to make a choice.
Antifa with masks on, firebombing things and threatening to murder me.
Cops in masks walking around the street, not saying anything to me.
I'll take the cops in masks.
Yep.
I don't want either.
I don't want either.
But that's the issue with Ben Franklin and the importance of saying temporary.
If the issue was tomorrow, there will be a major storm and you say, I will give up all my liberties for this.
Like, well, that's dumb.
But if we said, we are about to enter a period of warfare for which we don't see an end, or better yet, a zombie apocalypse occurs.
And they say, we are going to build a perimeter around our building.
No one can leave.
And you go, I'm not giving up my freedom for a little security.
It's like, then get out.
Then you're dead.
So there's a limit and a challenge.
And I think people often misunderstand the full context of what he's trying to say.
ian crossland
There are also false dichotomies that if there's a threat of one sort that we need to create another threat to destroy it or stop it, there could be another way.
And that's just with the Antifa, the ICE.
And then there may be, you know.
tim pool
Here's the funny thing.
The context was actually extremely specific.
And it was about the governor on the Penn family's orders vetoing a tax on the Penn family lands to fund frontier defense.
Franklin argued that the Penns in prioritizing their financial assets, temporary safety, over the common defense, essential liberty, deserved neither.
It's actually an inversion.
He was arguing that they were refusing to help fund a war effort and be involved and they were sacrificing liberty for their temporary safety.
ian crossland
Federalists, dude, Ben Franklin was the ultimate subverter.
I love that guy.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Patriot Palin says, I'm surprised Phil didn't say, that's right.
The left lane is for crime when Christian says she stays out of the left lane.
christian maxwell
It's definitely the crime lane.
phil labonte
I missed it, to be honest with you.
christian maxwell
It's for sure the crime lane.
phil labonte
Especially in Chicago.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Omega Rossetsu says, Tim, screw you.
Taxation is theft.
And prior to taxes, we had cobblestone roads, which were more expensive, and it's not justified.
I'm willing to debate you on the immoral demerits of taxation.
My point is that right now in our country, we may be upset with the structure of the law, and it is the duty of a culture and people to change that.
And the idea that we would just say, you can decide for yourself what rule to follow and not, I disagree with, that's what the left has been doing this whole time.
However, that being said, I certainly agree with you that there is a limit to which just because it's legal doesn't mean it should be allowed, and we'd have to do something about it.
The challenge for any and all people is when those moral lines are fractured between the body politic, where we have the left now saying your constitutional republic is evil and must be destroyed, and we are saying our constitutional republic is good and must be preserved.
They are arguing we have become tyrannical and must be destroyed.
I am arguing they are an invasive force that is seeking to subvert our country.
And so it will always come down to who thinks they're right and who has the power to maintain their system.
In this case, I don't like taxes.
I don't agree with the idea that people should be imprisoned because they didn't pay it.
Usually it's just you get a bill in the mail.
That was the point.
Hey, look, man, here's your bill.
Here are the rules we agree to.
And then we should change those.
I think one of the challenges we have is that the entrenched government doesn't allow for these systems to change.
Once people get into office, they look at the tax income and they go, ooh, we really need that.
And who wants to give up free money they can take from other people by force?
ian crossland
Trump talked about getting rid of income tax early on.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
christian maxwell
I think that's a viable thing.
I think that would be good.
tim pool
And just do tariffs.
christian maxwell
I think that it incentivizes someone.
I look at, like, like I said, I'm always looking at Chicago.
Chicago has become so dependent on taxes and fees.
So everything is a fee, everything is a fine, and everything is taxes.
They don't even think about the business opportunity of Chicago anymore.
That's why they're not looking at trying to be trying to welcome entrepreneurs, trying to welcome corporations.
They don't even care about corporations anymore.
They only care about people's bodies, how much they can work, and how much they can be fined.
So it really removes ingenuity or the incentive to be to be creative from leaders when all they can do, when they just rely on taxes.
They don't have to actually work at the job.
ian crossland
The loop area in Chicago is so beautiful.
It's beautiful.
christian maxwell
It's a very marketable city.
ian crossland
Even working nine to five down there was, it was so refreshing to look out the window and see another building, but the sunlight coming off the lake and the fresh and also the connective tissue of the subway system of the world.
christian maxwell
The connective tissue.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
The brown line to the red line.
christian maxwell
It's living.
It is living, though.
I do agree.
And I think that it just needs to, the multiple areas of the city have been just left to rot.
But that rot costs money.
Like the schools that Rob Emmanuel closed like a long time ago, they're still sitting there.
And Chicago is still paying fees and money every month to keep them like from tumbling.
So it's like you have these schools that are closed, CPS, you know, CPS doesn't, or CPS doesn't want to let charters use them.
So it's like all this just dumb bureaucracy that keeps Chicago in a just a financial deficit because they're not trying to be creative at all.
tim pool
Here's an interesting one.
Jared says, DoorDash in the North suburbs has started random, random identity checks, forcing you to scan your face before starting a session.
Started about a month ago.
I think we have something to do with that because I got some kind of, I can't remember what happened.
I was complaining about this because our security is very tight.
And so when we order DoorDash and a stranger pulls up, we're like, goodbye.
If we're not expecting you, you can't be here.
And we've had a bunch of security incidents that I can't even talk about without compromising care, so I won't.
But people start getting pissed off.
And the problem has seemed to have largely stopped.
People pull up and we have our security guy walks up to the car and says, what can I do for you?
And they're like, I have a DoorDash for, you know, insert name.
And they say, do you have some ID on you?
And they'll go, for what?
And then we're like, because no one's allowed to enter or make deliveries unless we know who you are and why you're here.
And then they go, okay, and they show their ID.
I would say since the past month or so, people have just been like, sure.
And they just show their ID and then we've had no problems.
But the thing is, what really bothered me is DoorDash doesn't give you the full name either.
So if there's someone named Jim, he can let anybody named Jim.
Jim S. Exactly, Jim S. Do they give you although it mostly deals with the problem?
ian crossland
The license plate number?
Do you get a license plate number?
Oh, really?
Uber does license plates.
tim pool
Exactly.
I am irked.
So we basically stopped DoorDash.
unidentified
Like, we, we've Uber Eats is the way we don't use any of it anymore.
tim pool
Wait, when you do Uber Eats, it shows you the license plate number.
ian crossland
Leave?
Yeah, I think all Uber stuff is a license plate.
tim pool
I mean, that would be great.
We basically have been winding down doing any of that and just been relying on pickups now and going out personally because it's become very insecure.
christian maxwell
It's incredibly insecure.
tim pool
Who knows?
Like, some weirdo pulls up and says, here's your food.
And then here's the problem.
If I order food, I know when food is coming.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I can see on the end.
But sometimes we order food for the office.
And then, you know, I'll buy like 400 bucks in Taco Bell.
And then everyone comes like ravenous rats and just, that would be me.
What would happen if someone pulled up and said, here's a food delivery?
Somebody working here thought it was for the office.
And then people started eating it and it was tampered with because they didn't know.
So that's why we told everybody, like, it's got to be confirmed, all that stuff.
But that just about does it, my friends.
It's been a blast.
Thanks so much for hanging out.
We're back, of course, throughout the weekend with clips.
Then we're back on Monday.
It's going to be great.
Oh, man.
Actually, I shouldn't say anything just yet, but next week is going to get crazy.
You guys, I hope you're really excited.
I can't say anything just yet.
Probably can't until you see the show on Monday, but Monday is going to be epic.
This next week is going to be massive.
So you can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast.
Smash the like button, share the show.
Christian, do you want to shout anything out?
christian maxwell
Yeah, definitely follow me on X at TheMod Pun.
But the biggest thing is get out to vote, Illinois.
Get out to vote, sign as many Republican petitions as you can because the election process starts now.
Don't sit it out and just wait until the big day.
The big day is right now, getting people on the ballot.
So you have an option.
That's the biggest thing you have to protect in Illinois: having an option.
ian crossland
People follow you for motivation at The Mod Pun.
christian maxwell
Yes, The Mod Pun on Twitter and also TikTok.
ian crossland
Do you have a website, campaign website?
christian maxwell
Sure.
You can visit me at ChristianMaxwellForCongress.com.
ian crossland
Thank you for coming, Christian.
unidentified
That was awesome.
christian maxwell
Thanks for having me.
unidentified
This was good.
ian crossland
Yeah, that was a lot of fun, guys.
I hope you enjoyed my philosophy.
Have a nice weekend.
Take care of yourself.
Be healthy.
Pray for healing for yourself and others.
The spirits do wonders.
phil labonte
Go to the gym.
ian crossland
I love you, Phil.
phil labonte
I am Phil that remains on Twix.
I'm Phil That Remains Official.
No, not Phil That Remains Official anymore.
I keep doing that.
The band is all that remains.
You can follow the band on Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify, YouTube, and Deezer.
Don't forget the left lane is for crime.
tim pool
We will see you all throughout the weekend with our segments.
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