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alex stein
Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, children of all ages, welcome to Tim Cast IRL.
I am your guest host, filling in for our boy Tim Poole.
He is out of the hospital.
He's just got a hair transplant.
So when next time you guys see him, he's going to have a full head of hair.
I know it's been a while, but that hair, you know, it takes a minute.
So Tim's going to be looking like a superstar very shortly.
But before we get into this tonight's show, we got a very special guest.
We got, you know, some crazy women, some smart women, some beautiful women.
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That stuff's not good.
But we got the cleanest, purest, strongest coffee made this side of the Mississippi River.
And I really encourage you guys to go to cashbrew.com and buy some.
And then as well, we got BooniesHQ.com.
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It's not necessarily open to the public, but you guys are going to be able to watch it on YouTube and Rumble.
You do not want to miss it.
I think Tim is going to drop in and you're going to be able to see his new hair.
So if you guys want to see the hair reveal, you definitely want to watch this.
And also go buy a board.
We got the Don't Be Gay board, the Be Gay board.
I think one of them sold out, but I guess we restocked.
So definitely go there.
And now, Tim's got the Independent logo back.
You know, that was a big news story.
So if you guys really want to support Tim and you'd love skating, definitely go to boonieshq.com.
All right, with all that being said, we got a wonderful panel.
Can we introduce everybody here?
We got the one, the only Libby Emmons.
Libby, how are you doing this evening?
libby emmons
I'm good, Alex.
How's it going?
alex stein
Are you nervous that I'm hosting?
Because I know Tim's scared to death.
libby emmons
No.
Okay, you're going to be awesome.
alex stein
I have my tuck friendly.
libby emmons
I'm not sorry for you.
alex stein
I have my tuck-friendly on underneath this.
I'm going to rip it off.
libby emmons
Oh, that's awesome.
alex stein
My woman's baby.
libby emmons
I love that stunt from you.
I'm Libby Emmons.
I'm here from the PostmillennialandhumanEvents.com.
Glad to be here.
karys rhea
Hey, Libby.
I'm Karis.
Karis Rhea.
Born in the United States.
Why are you doing California?
I shower every day.
alex stein
No, no.
What do you do?
What do you do?
You have the Israel flag.
Do you work for Benjamin Netanyahu?
karys rhea
Let's be clear.
alex stein
What do you do?
Who do you work for?
And what do you got going on, Karis?
karys rhea
She works from Assad.
I'm former producer at Epoch Times and Newsmax.
And now I am sitting on my couch every day and writing a book.
alex stein
We love that.
Okay.
And now we have Jamie, Jamie Reed, author, whistleblower.
What's going on, Jamie?
Tell us about yourself.
jamie reed
Hi.
Thank you so much for having me.
Yeah.
I'm Jamie Reed.
I am a whistleblower from a pediatric transgender center.
So this has been a really heavy week and have been being asked lots of questions to kind of weigh in with my expertise, what I know about these kids who are being transitioned.
Yes.
From Missouri, shut down that clinic, then shut down all of those clinics in Missouri, moved on and have been testifying across the country to try to get pediatric transitions banned across the U.S.
alex stein
We love that.
The show me stay, but do not show me those messed up genital mutilation that you got going on.
We don't want to show us that.
Okay, you know who we always have here, Surge on the ones and twos, but Phil LeBonte.
You know, he's a badass lead singer and he's freaking, he's jacked up, Phil.
And when I'm next to you, I feel a little, you just made me feel overflow of testosterone.
phil labonte
As I'm saying, I'm about to start taking TRT because the full beard is back, and that's probably what.
alex stein
You're vascular.
How do you get jacked up like that?
phil labonte
A lot of cardio.
alex stein
Oh, gosh.
phil labonte
Hello, everybody.
My name is Phil LeBonte.
I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains.
I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary, and I'm here to keep Alex Stein in line.
alex stein
That's a fact.
He's going to succeed because, listen, we love Tim.
I know Phil loves Tim.
We're not going to say anything to be even considered terms of service.
So we just want to say the vaccine is safe and effective, and we encourage everybody to get it.
And RFK was wrong.
They do not cause any side effects whatsoever.
Okay, so with all that being said, let's get into the first story of the evening.
It's a story we've all heard.
We're kind of tired of hearing, but there's different angles coming out.
And of course, we're talking about the transgender shooter that shot up the Catholic Church of Minneapolis.
Now, obviously, this story is incredibly sad.
I'm not patting myself on the back when I say this, but I did speak at a recent state Senate hearing in Texas, and I got absolutely buried by the trans community because I made a joke about transgenders being good for the military because they like to do mass shootings.
And if their rate of suicide is so high, we could use them like the Taliban uses suicide bombers.
And I got absolutely buried.
unidentified
But less than two weeks from that speech, they hated him because he spoke the truth.
alex stein
I spoke the truth and I didn't like this.
I don't like that I'm clairvoyant and these things are happening.
So I guess my first person I want to direct to is Jamie.
You speak at these Senate hearings.
You go around to Missouri and all these other states and speak at them.
Why don't they understand that this problem is really prevalent and that these people are suicidal and that serious stuff's happening?
jamie reed
Oh, wow.
You want the history on how to do that?
alex stein
I just kind of know why.
I mean, how prevalent is it?
Because I said this at a state senate hearing and it happened.
And even before that, it was two days after the hearing.
It was a story in the UK where a train conductor was misgendered and they threw themselves in front of a train.
So I was right right after I said it.
And then I was sadly extra right about the suicide and the trans.
jamie reed
I think we've seen upwards of a 5,000% increase in individuals identifying as trans in the young people population.
It's close to 3% by some estimates.
So yes, of course, we're going to see huge numbers of issues in the public when you have that large of a percentage of our population identifying into something that is rooted in a lot of mental illness.
alex stein
Yeah, I mean, obviously, we have a serious mental illness problem, but I think you saw Charlie Kirk.
Everybody talks about it's not rude for us to figure out if this shooter was on SSRI.
So where does the over-medication come into this kerosene?
I think you were talking about that earlier, right?
karys rhea
Yeah, it could come into play, especially because the fact that a lot of these young kids are being medicated with drugs that have never been tested in cross-examination with each other.
Like when you're on a cocktail of more than two drugs, there's just absolutely no way to know what kind of side effects those are going to produce, right?
They haven't done any of those clinical trials.
So yeah, I think that's really dangerous when you have a whole generation that has grown up economically short-changed, obsessed with screens, getting all of their romantic, quote-unquote, needs or sexual needs met through porn or Snapchat or social media.
And then so obviously they're all going to be anxious and depressed because they're not really functioning in real life and going outside and having human-to-human interaction.
And so then they're going to all be put on all this medication and that is just going to inevitably make things worse for them because you get into this like prescription cascade, they call it.
alex stein
Well, I just want to say this quick statement.
Howard Stern famously got canceled for saying during the Columbine shootings that if these kids would have just gotten laid, they might not have done this.
But you kind of made that same argument right there, did you not?
By looking at the pornography and stuff, the fact that these kids are online looking at all this demonic stuff.
Maybe if they went out and actually got laid, they wouldn't be school shooters.
jamie reed
Well, I mean, let's take it what we want.
alex stein
Isn't that what he's joking?
Isn't that what you said?
jamie reed
We want these kids to have real-life experience.
alex stein
Yeah.
jamie reed
And so there was something about art.
I don't know what your generation is, but going to the mall, sneaking the cigarette, hanging out with your friends, you know, doing things in real life.
Having those risk behaviors in real life and learning the consequences with your social peers in your group is actually how you become an adult.
You're not going to learn how to become an adult by sitting behind a screen.
The only way you are is by having your peers say, dude, you just did something that was ridiculous.
I'm not, you know, I'm not hanging out with you right now.
Like you learn how to adult through social pressure.
And the real way to do that is in real life.
karys rhea
Right.
jamie reed
It's not just going to be a reality.
karys rhea
I just have to say, I don't think my message to would-be mass shooters is go out and get laid.
I think at that point, that might be like my like fourth message to them.
phil labonte
You're not not saying, right?
You're not saying it, you're not saying it.
karys rhea
Not saying it just like that.
alex stein
But you went to the porn thing.
And so I'm saying, like, you know, maybe if these guys went out there and they didn't have access all this porn and they had to actually get it from a chick, maybe they'd be a little more suave, a little more self-aware, and less likely to do something like this.
I'm not saying you said that, but you kind of insinuated that.
But Phil, am I crazy for that?
karys rhea
Fair enough.
phil labonte
Not for that.
alex stein
Okay.
I'm crazy for others.
karys rhea
Yes.
libby emmons
But I think there's other stuff going on when we look at, and this is something I've been thinking about, right?
Because we hear an awful lot about how we need more mental health care for people.
And I have a lot of questions about what exactly mental health care is and what it does and what use it really is.
I don't know about you guys.
I've been to a therapist a couple times in my life, like different times that I've had questions and I'm like, I'm not going to bore my friends about this for a year and a half.
I'm going to go talk to somebody and figure it out.
And then you solve your problem and you move on, right?
But you have people who are in therapy for years and years and years, and then they have a psychologist who they talk to, and they have a psychiatrist who prescribes them, but they don't talk to.
Or you have a clinic and then you see somebody else every other week or something like that.
And it's sort of confusing and difficult.
A lot of the mental health is like either outpatient or inpatient drug treatment, right?
So you have a lot of this stuff going on.
And I had an interesting conversation, just bear with me for a second.
At turning point a couple of years ago, I was doing a panel, and this woman asked a question that I found absolutely fascinating because we were talking about God and religion and what place faith has in your life.
And she said, How do you find faith if you don't know what it is and no one's ever told you about it?
She said, My generation, which is, you know, substantially younger than me, like Gen Z or whatever, she said, My generation, when we have problems, we're told that it's a mental health thing and to go talk to a therapist and then we're given drugs about it.
And so, so much of the attention of mental health turns you and your problems in on yourself.
And you're not looking outside, like you were saying, Jamie.
You're not looking to friends.
You're not looking to other experiences, even to sex, as you know, Karis and Alex were discussing.
You're not looking to other things.
You're just turning everything in on yourself.
And in on yourself is sort of a wasteland, right?
Like we are not God.
karys rhea
It's because the mental health model has transformed into an industry.
libby emmons
Right.
Basically.
And so they don't want to cure you.
karys rhea
Exactly.
It's business.
The more you'll sit there and talk about your problems, right?
And it's kind of become, in some ways, a very narcissistic-oriented pursuit, right?
Instead of teaching people to maybe be more focused on service, right?
Or helping others.
Or it's all about me, me, me and trying to figure out, you know, why I'm anxious and what happened in my childhood and who can I blame and things like that.
I mean, Abigail Schreier wrote a whole book about fascinating bad therapy.
And there, but there's amazing people like Lauren Delano and Cooper Davis and stuff that are trying to create different models for mental health, things like peer-to-peer mental health.
Because I think, like, as you guys were saying, like, it was, you know, back in the day, people actually relied on their family or their pastors or their community.
libby emmons
And there were certainly crazy people back in the old days.
There was Lizzie Borden, you know, but those are for Halloween one year.
alex stein
But there's a point I want to make when it comes to mental health.
And I mean, maybe Phil won't agree with me, but we actually do have a cure to mental health.
It's called diet and exercise.
And literally, people that actually do diet and exercise, their mental health improves dramatically.
So there are cures other than just taking a pill, you know, SSRIs.
And that's one application that no doctor has ever prescribed.
I mean, maybe some homeopathic doctors, but that's the problem: people are over-medicated.
And of course, people do have depression, but you can literally fix that with regular exercise and eating a diet.
phil labonte
To your point, I wouldn't.
karys rhea
But not in excess, because even those things you can end up getting.
jamie reed
I'm just going to add one more.
It's diet, exercise, and sleep.
Yeah, and sleep, sleep.
alex stein
It's just as important as exercise.
jamie reed
There is an adolescent study that showed if you could get these kids to actually get enough sleep, their depression and anxiety actually don't.
karys rhea
Okay, but if you diet, you exercise, and you're getting sleep, and then you spend all the rest of your time on Snapchat and talk.
I don't know if that will really help.
phil labonte
Well, the whole topic is a little bit more nuanced than just as simple as exercise.
karys rhea
Yeah, I think it's a whole big prop.
phil labonte
I'm a big proponent of going to the gym and exercising.
I can tell it's important.
Thank you very much.
It's important for us to help.
It's just a problem with all this.
There are genuinely very ill people that medication does help.
If you're a schizophrenic, going to the gym isn't going to help.
You need to actually talk to a doctor.
And I'm only saying this because there is a certain, there's almost an idea that people have that if you're depressed or if you feel some kind of mental illness pressure or whatever, just go to the gym.
That will not solve it.
But if all you're feeling like is, oh, I'm tired and I'm kind of bummed out, going to the gym and getting a good night's sleep a couple nights in a row will probably solve it.
karys rhea
It's almost like crying noise is episodic or something.
libby emmons
It's super annoying how helpful it is to work out.
Like, I hate it.
alex stein
I'm so much mad that they worked out.
libby emmons
No, but I hate exercise.
I hate working out and I do it every day and I hate it.
And then afterwards, I'm like, God damn it.
unidentified
I feel better.
libby emmons
I feel better.
jamie reed
But these kids, especially these kids who have this trans identification, though, this is, they're beyond some of this because they have literally beaten to their brain that they ruminate on their own distress.
They become stuck in this cycle of it's just rumination, rumination, rumination.
And for some of them, I think we have completely created a culture of mental health, though, too, where you go to school, even in kindergarten now, and the first thing you're being always asked is, is to check in on your emotions and, you know, where are you at?
And what are you feeling today?
And it's not that service.
It's not like, what have you done today?
Like, how can you help someone else?
It's just ruminating on your own psyche.
libby emmons
Yeah, there's not enough way to do it.
There's not enough inside of us to sustain life.
alex stein
But with the trans thing, what is the ill?
libby emmons
You need other people.
You need other activities.
You need community.
alex stein
With trans people, though, what is the illness?
It's gender dysphoria.
phil labonte
No.
alex stein
Oh, you don't think so?
libby emmons
What do you think?
alex stein
What is it?
libby emmons
Do you think it's real?
Do you think trans is real?
jamie reed
No.
phil labonte
I think it's a manifestation of other things.
It used to be where you...
jamie reed
It's a culture bounce.
alex stein
You don't think it's a mental illness?
phil labonte
Well, it used to be where, like, if someone had some kind of body image, body dysmorphia, whatever, they would be anorexic or bulimic and stuff.
I think that modern transgenderism in women tends to be a manifestation.
alex stein
Did you know about bigorexia where people want to be super big?
unidentified
Sure.
alex stein
I've seen that.
So people have body dysmorphia of every kind.
They want to be big.
They want to be small.
They want to be a boy.
phil labonte
But the number of people that are bulimic and anorexic today is significantly smaller than it was 30 years ago.
And I think that's true.
unidentified
Is that strange?
phil labonte
Yeah, I think that, and I think a lot of it is because the manifestation of body dysmorphia nowadays is not about whether they are large enough or small enough or skinny enough or whatever.
They feel like they're in the wrong body.
karys rhea
Also, people are like the whole idea of being overweight is not stigmatized.
phil labonte
Exactly.
And also when it comes to men, I think that when it comes to men that are transgender, that say they're transgender and want to be women, I think a lot of that is on autogonophilia personally.
libby emmons
I think there's a lot of that as a conflict.
Wait, I was in definitely a kink thing.
karys rhea
What are you going to say about that, Jamie?
jamie reed
I don't know that there is anything that's truly trans.
Yes, there is gender dysphoria still in the DSM-5.
There is a checklist that has like nine criteria.
And if you meet six out of those nine criteria, you can fall into this category of having gender dysphoria.
Most of the doctors in this country do not care if you even meet that criteria.
This has truly become an identification.
If you say you're trans, you can be transitioned at basically any age.
alex stein
That's ridiculous that these doctors will just do it.
And then they tell the parent that the kid is going to harm himself if they don't do it.
So do you think it's, you know, if the kid doesn't affirm their new gender that they're going to take their own life, which is ridiculous.
But how much blame do you think that the doctors have versus the parents?
Because I think it's the parents that are probably causing a lot of these kids to be so confused.
I think they take a lot of responsibility for even letting their kid like this trans shooter.
jamie reed
So, the younger the kid is, the more I would say it's a parental issue.
So, if you have a three-year-old that's claiming that they are trans, that is a parent issue, or not even just non-binary or something.
Yes.
But often, you know, you have these two different categories of parent, though.
There are some parents who see their gender non-conforming kid.
The kids that truly are just gender non-conforming, most of them will grow up to be gay.
The parents who freak out about that, there's those parents, and then there's the parents who want a trans kid.
alex stein
Yeah.
jamie reed
It gives them social credit.
alex stein
For trans kids.
karys rhea
Like Charlie's Theron.
alex stein
Or Charlie's Theron.
I think Megan Fox has one.
unidentified
Sorry.
jamie reed
I actually, I might be wrong.
I actually think Megan Fox is letting her kid just be gender non-conforming.
alex stein
That's still weird.
karys rhea
It's weird that any kid would be thinking about.
alex stein
I'm saying I can see how that's more, that's nicer, but it's like you're a boy or your girl.
You have a vagina or a girl.
jamie reed
You're a boy or your girl.
But for people that grow up to be gay adults, many of us just are very masculine little girls or very feminine little boys.
Yeah.
Tomboys are sissy.
alex stein
Yeah, but being gay and being transgender are two different things.
I know they're overlap a lot, but they are different.
jamie reed
No.
I mean, yes and no.
karys rhea
Jamie's saying that trans, that the whole trans social contagion is actually like erasing gayness because a lot of these people, because of the social pressures, are immediately labeled trans because they are nonconforming in some way, when in reality, they're just gay.
But because people are telling them they're trans, they're like, oh, I must be trans.
alex stein
But if you're saying that you don't know your gender and you're non-conform, if you're non-conforming or whatever, you're trans.
I mean, that is.
I'm sorry.
Like that is.
By not picking a gender is just the same as saying you're the opposite gender.
karys rhea
So when you're young, you don't know.
You're transgender.
alex stein
Yes, you do.
You know your gender.
You have a penis or vagina.
Wait, you're not going to gaslight me.
phil labonte
You know your gender, but that's the gender.
karys rhea
But you know you're, but you don't.
alex stein
Unless you're born intersexually.
karys rhea
No, no, I'm not saying you don't know your gender, but you don't necessarily know when you're that young if you're gay or not, right?
Like you're kind of confused.
alex stein
Yeah, but who cares if you're gay?
There's lesbians and there's gay.
That doesn't make you the opposite sex if you're a homo.
jamie reed
No, but for a lot of gay adults remember that when we were kids, we knew we were different.
We knew we didn't fit in.
And the way that we knew we didn't fit in is what we refer to as gender.
I thought I was supposed to be a boy.
unidentified
Okay.
jamie reed
I'm just a lesbian.
alex stein
Yes.
jamie reed
I thought I was supposed to have a penis for a lot of years when I was little.
I didn't understand why I wasn't a boy.
I just knew that I understood that I had this difference that was keeping me separate from my peers.
And what we now see in retrospect is homosexuality got taken out of the DSM.
libby emmons
Did it?
It's out?
jamie reed
Oh, yeah.
Homosexuality has been out since 79, I think.
libby emmons
What do they call it?
Oh, it's just not a disorder.
karys rhea
It's not a disorder.
jamie reed
It's not a mental disorder.
alex stein
I would argue that it is because a lot of people that are gay have had sexual trauma as a young person.
I think it's like 70%.
Did you ever have anything traumatic in your childhood?
jamie reed
Besides like being a crazy tomboy and getting hurt?
alex stein
Yeah, like you didn't have sexual abuse.
karys rhea
70%.
Is that true?
alex stein
Look it up, Serge.
Look it up how many people that are gay identified as being sexually abused.
It's something really high.
And I do think, you know, correlation does, you know, causation doesn't mean correlation doesn't mean causation or whatever the saying is.
Like if there's a bunch of people that got sexually abused and then later in life, they say that they're gay and there's a pattern.
Like I think that there could be, it's like nature versus nurture.
If you got abused, I think it's you're more likely going to be sexually confused than somebody that didn't get abused.
unidentified
Okay.
jamie reed
So let me say this.
I think we would all agree that no child should experience sexual abuse.
So if we work as a society to reduce that occurrence and we see a reduction in the number of adults who identify or say that they are gays and lesbians later, your hypothesis.
alex stein
Well, real quick, look at this.
Look at this.
Look at this.
A new study led by researchers at Vanderbilt, one of the best universities in the country, found that 83% of lesbian, gay, bisexual, and queer individuals reported going through adverse childhood experiences such as sexual or emotional abuse.
karys rhea
Well, emotional abuse is very different than sexual.
alex stein
But that's still a form.
You can still like emotionally, there's a lot of overlap.
jamie reed
So can we pivot for a minute, though?
Yeah.
Okay.
So does my homosexuality lead to me needing to have my body parts cut off, being put on a hormonal treatment?
Correct.
if we have to think about as a society we can accept that there are some people who are gay lesbians homosexuals who need no medication for that don't really bother you in any way and i also what kind of medication viagra What kind of medication do you need to be gay?
You shouldn't need anything.
alex stein
Okay, okay.
jamie reed
But my homosexuality doesn't ask anything of you.
Does it ask anything different of you?
That's the difference with trans.
If I trans asks of you to do something, it asks of you to change.
alex stein
Well, I would argue that you being a lesbian asks something of me because if I hit on you, it would be misconstrued as if you were straight.
So it kind of does.
I'm just saying a lesbian, you do kind of have to change a little bit than if you're a heterosexual.
jamie reed
Why would I care if you hit on me?
alex stein
Well, it's just, I don't know.
It's just, I'm just saying there are instances where you'd maybe treat a gay person different than a straight woman.
jamie reed
I think that you would hit on a lesbian and a nice person.
No, but I'm saying gay than a straight woman.
alex stein
No, I'm saying, well, in a way, yeah, because it's harder to turn.
I've turned a lot.
But my point is, being gay and being trans kind of does ask something of me.
It's like if I go to a gay wedding, how am I supposed to not laugh at two girls?
jamie reed
Okay, but I think, well, then we just won't invite you to the weddings and you can stay home and they don't have to bake us.
karys rhea
Jamie is saying that when you're trans, you're like you're requiring somebody to recognize you as something, as something different than you are, versus if you're a lesbian or you're gay, nobody would even necessarily know that because it's not, it's a sexual preference.
It's not an identity, right?
alex stein
Well, that's why I don't understand the pride flag being in elementary schools because all sexuality is, when you look at the pride flag, is just celebrating who you have sex with.
jamie reed
We're going to agree on so many of those things.
There's absolutely no reason why a pride flag needs to be in an elementary or even in a high school.
alex stein
Yeah, I mean, there's no need for any school.
I mean, even college.
jamie reed
There's no need for anything like that.
When I think about what do I need from my kids' school as a lesbian with children, the only thing I need is that when we have a teacher, parent-teacher meeting, my partner gets to come.
libby emmons
That doesn't seem like too much to ask.
jamie reed
Yeah, that would be insane.
I don't need you to teach the whole classroom about gay penguins.
alex stein
Well, even Snoop Dogg got mad at the latest Pixar movie that the two couples that had a baby were two women.
I don't know if you saw that story, but it was very bad.
libby emmons
That was interesting.
jamie reed
But the issue right now with...
libby emmons
He's also married to his childhood sweetheart, which I think is...
alex stein
What was his...
karys rhea
What's the story?
libby emmons
Snoop is married to his childhood sweetheart.
He's been married this whole time.
alex stein
Yeah, he took his nephew to a movie, and in the movie, two women have a baby in the most recent Pixar movie, which is a kids' movie.
libby emmons
And the nephew was like, how they have a baby?
alex stein
And even Snoop Dogg was like, fucking.
There's nothing making them, man.
Y'all are gay as hell.
And yeah, so if Snoop Dogg's noticing, you know, it says a lot.
jamie reed
I get it.
But what I just want to bring it back to is really, for so many of us who are adult, gays, and lesbians, we see trans as homophobic.
libby emmons
That's because it is.
Yes.
alex stein
Yeah, because a lot of the trans too are these Caitlin Jenner trans where they still like women.
So what are you, Caitlin Jenner?
jamie reed
And I know Caitlin.
You nailed what Caitlin.
libby emmons
Caitlin Jenner is autogynophilia.
alex stein
Autogynophilia.
That's exactly what it is.
karys rhea
Yeah.
libby emmons
Do you know that it was that?
Oh, sorry.
karys rhea
Go ahead.
I was just going to say, it's not only homophobic, but it's actually guilty of the exact thing that it wants to, that it claims to be against, which is gender stereotypes and traditional male-female roles.
libby emmons
It's completely too woke.
alex stein
No, you can do that.
karys rhea
It's completely going out.
It relies on those gender stereotypes in order to be trans.
Like, you know, if you end up being a tomboy, if you end up playing, if you're a girl and you play with trucks, somebody's like, oh, you're trans, right?
But that's just a stereotype of, you know, of boys because they play with trucks.
Like, it's just, it's completely binary and it's just hypocritical.
libby emmons
Do you know that it was Kim Kardashian who discovered Bruce Jenner cross-dressing?
alex stein
Yeah.
libby emmons
And had to tell her mom.
alex stein
Her bedroom, ma'am.
libby emmons
Yeah.
And said that she would have rather he was like screwing somebody else than that he was like wearing her mother's clothes.
alex stein
Well, no shite.
libby emmons
Yeah, she was super freaked out by it.
She was like, oh, now I have to tell my mom this.
But could you imagine if she came out talking about that within the past few years?
She would have been shamed into non-existence for being like, I didn't immediately affirm my stepfather wearing my mother's panties, you know?
Like, yeah.
alex stein
Well, it is weird that Kaylin Jenner still likes girls.
It's like, why not just stay a guy and bang girls?
libby emmons
But girls would probably like that better.
alex stein
The girls would like it better.
He would like it better.
I mean, but you know, he's on all those hormones wrecking into people and causing fatal accidents.
Phil, anything you want to say before we change the topic?
I know it's a very lighthearted topic, so that's the topic soon.
Yeah, I agree.
I agree.
Okay, what do we got next?
What's going on?
Amazon is in hot water for selling trans extremist shirts calling for violence.
phil labonte
Oh, it's the same topic.
libby emmons
It's a lot of the same topic.
alex stein
Oh, well, we'll just run through this, but look at this.
It's funny, though, they wear this t-shirt.
And I, you know, the predictive programming of me, but look at this predictive programming.
They kind of put this into the ecosystem, into our zeitgeist, into our, you know, collective conscious.
karys rhea
And now when I first saw that, like, that t-shirt on social media, I actually thought it was a parody.
Like, I thought it was a conservative that was making fun of the motivation.
alex stein
Like a shirt I would sell.
karys rhea
Yeah, exactly.
Like, I can't believe that that is actually.
phil labonte
It's worth noting that that's the lieutenant governor.
libby emmons
That's the lieutenant governor of Minnesota.
phil labonte
The lieutenant governor of Minnesota is wearing a shirt that is glorifying violence.
Can you bring it back up for one second?
I just want to make sure that I'm saying that saying protect trans kids, which I refuse to even accept the argument that there are trans kids.
alex stein
Yeah, okay.
karys rhea
What is the flower?
What is that?
Was that just to balance out the knife or does that have some sort of thing they had an AR-15?
libby emmons
Yeah.
jamie reed
They're like, we should put a flower there.
phil labonte
But the fact, the fact that the lieutenant governor is glorifying violence in favor of mutilating children.
Like destroying children's lives.
This is the society that we live in has been so absolutely decimated by the LGBTQIA groups.
It is absolutely awful what has been done to the United States.
karys rhea
Don't forget the two-spirit.
phil labonte
Oh, yeah.
I mean, the whole nine.
Like, I personally reject the concept of gender.
You are either male or female.
There is no gender.
Gender is a made-up thing that is.
I mean, and at the end of the day, what it boils down to, the only way that people can explain it is it is your sexual spirit.
And it's something that you should be teaching to kids.
unidentified
Well, that's good.
libby emmons
Well, they killed God.
They said we have no soul.
And then they replaced it with gender.
And gender is all about worshiping yourself and turning yourself into God and saying that, you know, there's nothing bigger than you, that everything in the world revolves around you.
And that's why we have these trans violence t-shirts, right?
Because what we have is a situation where people feel that if you don't acknowledge their fantasy, they get to hurt you.
And we've seen this.
This is not new.
This has been going back for a while.
There was an exhibit in 2018 at the San Francisco Public Library that had a whole exhibit about punch a turf.
And the turf was a common term, right?
Turf was a term that was used to denigrate liberal women.
unidentified
Right.
libby emmons
To denigrate liberal women who did not think men can become women.
And they had this whole exhibit, Punch a Turf.
And then they said, TERFs are Nazis.
And then they said, you can punch Nazis.
That means you can punch TERFs.
And that means you can punch anybody who doesn't agree with your fantasy of what's going on in the world and with yourself.
And so that's how we got here.
You get to hurt people, apparently, who disagree with your fantasy.
And we also saw in 2023, as several states were bringing into effect, you know, laws saying you can't sex change your children.
And this was considered violence by the trans community.
So you had a whole advocacy situation of trans people and like LGBTQIA plus, et cetera, groups getting together to learn how to use firearms to defend themselves against states that don't want to trans kids.
And this appeared on covers of magazines like the Eugene Weekly in Oregon.
And it appeared on t-shirts and people were masking up, wearing the t-shirts, going out to protests and hurting women, like attacking women.
Look what happened to Kelly J. Keene in was it Australia or New Zealand?
She was out there.
alex stein
They threw ketchup on her.
libby emmons
And they, no, they, yeah, they attacked her.
I was out at a protest.
alex stein
It was ketchup, though.
They attacked her a couple times, but they didn't throw a bunch of ketchup on her.
libby emmons
They threw a bunch of stuff.
alex stein
That girl got charged, I think, and actually got in a bunch of trouble for the ketchup accident.
libby emmons
And then there were, I mean, I remember going out and protesting in New York and people coming up to me and screaming Nazi in my face just because I know the difference between male and female.
alex stein
Well, to your point, though, I think there is like a more sinister thing.
Like you talked about hiding the existence of God and that a lot of this trans stuff is actually, you know, I'm a tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theories.
libby emmons
I love that about you.
alex stein
But it's a lot of it comes with population reduction.
Like they want us making less kids.
Like they want, and as soon as they give a child hormones, it's going to stunt their puberty.
It's going to stunt their reproductive organs.
And it's just going to make it where people have atrophied penis.
And literally, I know a guy that has one, a D-transitioner.
So there's a little more sinister stuff at play.
They want to hide the existence of God and they want to make us eunuchs so we can't procreate.
But with all that being said, we'll get back.
Oh, to your point, please, James.
jamie reed
One more thing about the Amazon shirts, though.
alex stein
Yes.
jamie reed
Like, you're saying this is in the cultural zeitgeist.
One of the problems is, is we cannot get in there to start messing with the messaging.
alex stein
Why not?
Why can't we start with that?
jamie reed
So I have an org, LGB Courage Coalition.
We have tried to find dropship companies to produce our shirts.
We wanted to make shirts, stop trans and gay kids.
Could not find a drop ship company to produce it.
alex stein
Really?
jamie reed
Nobody will pick up the other side messaging.
Nobody will, even if we just put LGB, we can't get drop ship companies to print.
Gays against Scroomers have had the same thing.
alex stein
They've been kicked off of that hard to find an American distributor.
I mean, I believe it.
jamie reed
So we finally found one.
alex stein
I'm living in a capitalist country.
I think there's somebody with someone.
jamie reed
We finally found one.
They are the ones that also print things for the polygamists, Mormons, and that's the company.
alex stein
I mean, hey, listen, Jews.
jamie reed
That's the company that I think is going to let us make some shirts.
unidentified
You got five wives.
alex stein
You need a lot of shirts.
You know what I mean?
All right, guys.
So what's going on in New York City, I think, is very alarming.
I know that we have a Jewish-American princess sitting across from me, and she's probably very threatened.
But maybe this is good news because Mom Donnie does not recognize Israel as a country.
And he is now currently in second place according to the most recent Tolchin research poll.
So I guess I want to start with the person that is probably most likely to be a target of Mom Donnie's legislation.
Karis, what do you think about a socialist terrorist, dare I say, your opinion of him probably, becoming the mayor of New York City?
karys rhea
I live in D.C.
alex stein
Yeah, but you're Jewish, so he probably doesn't recognize you.
libby emmons
You think he would recognize that?
alex stein
He doesn't recognize the, do not look at me like I'm stupid.
You know that he does not recognize Israel as a country.
karys rhea
No, for sure he would recognize Israel.
unidentified
No, no, no, no.
alex stein
I'm going to get mad because Karis is so annoying.
She's one of the most annoying people because she's like, she acts like she doesn't know what's going on.
Like, oh, Mom Donnie doesn't like Israel.
You're sitting there.
I'm like, it's just so don't play so dumb.
It's like, you know that Mom Donnie doesn't like Israel and you're sitting there like, oh, wait, does he not like Israel?
unidentified
You know what I was going to say?
Oh, I'm from D.C., so I guess maybe I would like Mom Donnie.
phil labonte
You guys know each other.
You literally said, I'm not sure I'm at.
This is the first time you literally.
alex stein
Wait, Phil, no, no, no, because I get frustrated because I talk about why he is a threat to Jewish people.
And then your answer is, well, I don't know.
unidentified
I live in D.C., so I guess I don't have an opinion on it.
alex stein
Well, I live in Texas.
What is your opinion?
Do you like him, the fact that he doesn't believe that your people have a right to exist?
What is your opinion on it?
unidentified
Other than you live in D.C. I'm just a little more long-winded than you, Alex.
alex stein
Well, get away here.
unidentified
This show is only two hours.
alex stein
This isn't the game Talmud with 10,000 pages.
Let's get his shit.
karys rhea
I'm a big fan of filibustering.
alex stein
Well, say something then.
You literally have no support.
karys rhea
I absolutely do not support him.
But all I was going to say in response to what you said was that if I was a Jew who hated Israel, he absolutely would support me.
And those are the people that he essentially leans on to gain credibility with the New York Jews, right?
The fringe groups like the Jewish Voice for Peace or the Jews for Racial and Economic Justice, all of whom are funded, by the way, by like, you know, that Chinese guy, Neville, the guy who lives in China, Neville Singham, whatever.
And Soros.
alex stein
He did lose that.
jamie reed
Yeah, Mondani lost the black vote, too.
karys rhea
I'm not surprised.
He got one.
What the creative class vote.
alex stein
I don't believe a lot of blacks vote.
karys rhea
No, I think Mom Dani is a significant threat to conservative Jews, both political and religious, religiously conservative Jews.
But I also think he's just an absolute threat to New York City as a thriving metropolis.
I mean, you're going to, he literally says he doesn't believe billionaires should exist.
I mean, you're going to have capital.
You're going to have companies have already announced that they will leave New York.
I mean, it's going to be an absolute disaster in every single way.
We saw what happened in Kansas when they try to open like city-run grocery stores.
So I think the threat here, there's no doubt we could talk about the threat to Jews.
And as a Jewish American princess myself, there's nothing I would enjoy more than that.
But I think that this threat is so much bigger than that.
I mean, and it sucks that, I mean, you were saying, wait, is this the article that talks about how Cuomo is like the only possible chance of success?
Yes.
If Eric Adams and Curtis Leewa drop out?
I mean, yeah, that's a shame.
I mean, I, you know, Cuomo, I was in New York City during the pandemic and Cuomo was an absolute disaster.
But I also had been following Mom Donny prior to this when he was on city council.
And I, you know, it really sucks to have to just.
libby emmons
He was on city council?
I thought he was just in the assembly.
karys rhea
Or in the city.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
libby emmons
Yeah, sorry.
karys rhea
Thanks for correcting me.
But I remember because he was such a radical during that time that even like the circles I ran him, ran in, were aware of his name.
And so it's really awful to have to pick between the lesser of two evils.
But like when I'm thinking about the success of a city that I lived in for 18 years, like the continuing success, I got to go with Cuomo, right?
jamie reed
Devil's advocate, though.
Mondaba Donnie gets in office.
He just demonstrates to all of us that socialism doesn't work in running a city.
I mean, doesn't it?
phil labonte
No, but the response to that isn't going to be people aren't going to say, oh, socialism doesn't work.
The response is always, it didn't work this time.
We need to do more.
unidentified
Joe Biden always, Joe Biden was the best thing.
alex stein
I'm not sure if it's for Trump.
The last four years of Joe Biden sucking D helped Trump.
phil labonte
Joe Biden was a good person.
karys rhea
That's actually my dad.
This is my dad's argument.
My dad is less scared about Mom Donnie because he thinks that that will be the ground zero for New York.
It will be the tipping point where things are shockingly naive for effective.
For a little hype on that turn.
libby emmons
Because look at socialist policies that have been implemented in the United States, whether you like them or not, right?
Socialist policies that have been implemented.
Medicare, welfare, social security, things that FDR implemented, which were essentially sort of more socialist than capitalist, right?
A lot of social safety net stuff.
I'm not saying I'm opposed to it.
I'm saying you can't get rid of it once you have it.
You can't get rid of it.
You can't get rid of free school lunches now, right?
Whether you want to or not, you can't get rid of it.
And once you have all of these programs baked into New York City, you're not going to be able to pull them out again.
unidentified
Right.
karys rhea
Because it's part of a bureaucracy.
libby emmons
It's part of a massive bureaucracy.
It's a massive bureaucracy.
And it consumes itself.
phil labonte
Let me jump in with one thing real quick.
libby emmons
And it's self-perpetuating.
phil labonte
The bumper sticker that you can vote yourself into socialism, but you have to shoot your way out is absolutely true.
It is not just a tagline.
It is true.
It is almost universally true when you look around the world and you look at the history of socialist countries.
libby emmons
That's exactly right.
alex stein
Church has an opinion on socialist countries.
You said it's really bad in South Africa, right?
You said it's very bad.
unidentified
I like how you concern us was drinking for the one moment on the podcast here.
phil labonte
But yeah, it's bad.
unidentified
Everything that's been any socialist policy ultimately fails.
phil labonte
Like central planning is bad, period.
unidentified
You can't centrally plan from one part of the country for the other part of the country and think that you'll be able to make effective legislating.
alex stein
What about cheap medicine?
Is cheap medicine that good?
unidentified
You can go to Singapore for cheap medicine, and that place doesn't have socialism.
It's very capitalistic.
karys rhea
But there's also ways of cutting medication in a privatized system.
alex stein
Well, speaking of medication, Mom Donnie really went viral this week for struggling to do 135 pounds on the bench press.
Now, I know Phil is an avid bench presser, maybe a testosterone user won't admit it, maybe.
But do you think if Mom Donnie got on a little test, maybe a little Windstraw, maybe a little Dynaball, maybe a little Cody and kicker, I don't know what the boys are taking this day and age.
jamie reed
Did you see this video?
alex stein
Yeah, they can see it.
phil labonte
Mom Donnie Neaton.
Mom Donnie needs trendling.
alex stein
No, look at this.
This is pathetic.
And he's spotted the whole time.
The guy's doing all the lifting, and he's such a fraud.
And this is one of the reasons that his poll notes.
unidentified
He takes off his jacket.
karys rhea
Did he know that's going to happen?
phil labonte
No, that's the one saving grace is he was actually leading up this.
He was like, no, no, no, no.
And he was kind of stuck.
He kind of had to.
libby emmons
You never have to lift.
Let's go.
alex stein
That's just 145 on each side, which is heavy, but it's not that heavy.
phil labonte
135 pounds.
alex stein
135 pounds.
This is like the bare minimum.
Like at the NFL combine.
I don't know if he's that tall, but this is about what he weighs.
His body weight's probably about 135, 140.
jamie reed
Oh, let's go.
unidentified
Okay.
libby emmons
He needed help to lift it.
alex stein
He might be 150, but you know what I mean.
Look at that.
phil labonte
Six for two.
libby emmons
It is sort of, that is sort of too bad, isn't it?
phil labonte
It's worth noting that Riley Gaines responded to this video with, she put up 165 for five.
jamie reed
I was going to say, I think I could easily.
libby emmons
She's impressive and pregnant.
phil labonte
Yeah.
Is she pregnant currently?
libby emmons
Yeah.
alex stein
Yeah, that baby strength.
libby emmons
Is she?
phil labonte
Yeah, I think so.
libby emmons
I think she's going to be able to do that.
karys rhea
I do say the one if Mom Donnie wins, though, the one ray of hope in my mind is Stephonik possibly winning because she has a very good chance of becoming governor.
And I think that happens.
I like her, yeah.
And I think that she'll be able to stonewall Mom Donnie in a lot of ways that he would otherwise be able to get through because I think that will be a huge mission for her once she becomes governor.
alex stein
You know, this is not a joke.
One of Mom Donnie's big campaign policies, I'm not even kidding.
You can look this up, is that when he becomes mayor, halal prices will go down because in New York, they're only allowed to issue 571 vendor permits.
And so a lot of the people that try to get into that halal business have to pay like the food trucks?
The food truck business.
They had to buy it on the black market.
And so he says when he becomes mayor, he's going to immediately make 500 approved vendors and the prices of halal will go down because they'll be able to, you see, like he's talking about.
libby emmons
Are they only going to let the halal trucks, the halal?
alex stein
Well, I'm sure you don't probably necessarily need to cook halal food, but this is a big part of it.
libby emmons
There's plenty of halal.
alex stein
I know, but you can probably make all kinds of plant-based, whatever.
libby emmons
I'm just saying there's tons of halal trucks in New York City.
karys rhea
Yeah, I'm never really.
libby emmons
You're never at a loss.
unidentified
I don't know.
alex stein
The price is going to go down.
The price is going to go down now.
So this is why New York is going to be saved because now people are going to be able to get little Baba Ganoush for about $2 cheaper.
libby emmons
They don't have Baba Ganouche at those trucks.
alex stein
Some of them have Baba Ganoush.
I've gotten Baba Ganesh.
libby emmons
They have chicken and rice with some.
alex stein
I'm not going to do this right now and have another Baba Ganoush debate because I'm already losing it over there with a Jewish American princess.
So let's just talk about how we've already talked enough about this Pritzker thing, but he did make a we didn't talk about Pritzker at all.
No, but we talked about the trans stuff, excuse me.
libby emmons
But we could talk about the other stuff.
alex stein
Oh my gosh.
Okay, Pritzker now is saying that he's setting up a hotline where transgender people can get legal advice on how to change their name and affirm their gender.
Libby, you seem passionate about this.
Why is this phone line not being prank called 24-7 into oblivion?
jamie reed
Well, it just started.
So go ahead, take it away, J. Start the prank calling.
karys rhea
We should call it right now.
libby emmons
Let's do it right now.
alex stein
Well, maybe we don't encourage that.
This is a joke.
We're in Minecraft because I don't want them to tell it to us or something.
phil labonte
You go to the website called 4chan and you post that to do this.
libby emmons
And then my actual, my favorite Pritzker moment this week was when he was talking about how great Chicago is and Trump should come there.
And then the cameraman panned up and he was right next to Trump Tower.
Yeah.
jamie reed
It was great.
libby emmons
That was a really good video.
Yeah.
I could see more of that.
I could see that all day.
alex stein
Well, and, you know, when you look at Chicago, it's such a great city, but the crime is bad.
But this is where I'm kind of worried, though.
You see shitties.
Excuse me.
You see cities like Chicago.
Then you see this, you know, martial law, the federalization of the military in D.C. Like, I'm kind of worried that that could be used in places like Chicago.
Then they're going to come to Austin.
Then they're going to come to Dallas.
And all of a sudden, I can't go to McDonald's unless I show them my vaccine card.
So I'm kind of worried about.
libby emmons
I didn't like that either.
alex stein
No, so the federalization of the military to become police in D.C. sounds good on paper, but it could be misused.
libby emmons
Well, D.C. is different because there's laws in D.C. that the federal government can federalize it.
And that makes sense because, you know, it is not a state.
It's not even really a city.
It's a district.
And so the federal government can have control over it.
It was only, what, in the 70s that the home rule, was it 73 maybe, that the home rule law passed in D.C. allowing them to like be in charge of their own stuff.
alex stein
Who used to be in charge of Capitol Police?
Like, what did I work in?
libby emmons
Congress.
Congress used to be in charge.
unidentified
Wow.
alex stein
That's why they did so much kid didddling and stuff.
unidentified
Right.
alex stein
Yeah, that's got away with whatever.
libby emmons
Congress used to be in charge of running D.C.
unidentified
So it hasn't been that's touching kids.
alex stein
You know, a lot of them are a lot of them.
They went on this island called Little St. James with this guy named Jeffrey, and he was a hell of a hell of a businessman.
He started off as an elementary school, high school teacher, and became one of the richest men in the world.
And he had three passports from Israel.
That was just coincidence.
jamie reed
So, question, though, like Baltimore, didn't they say they would take the federal city?
alex stein
They need it.
Have you been to Baltimore recently?
libby emmons
It's not good.
Nobody should go to Baltimore.
alex stein
Oh, and it used to be a good place.
You go there and get a damn crab cake and you go in the wharf and you could take your family there.
Now it looks like a damn freak off.
phil labonte
It's even worth going down to watch the Orioles play the Red Sox because you could never get tickets to Fenway because Fenway is so small.
But the Baltimore stadium is significantly bigger.
You could jump on a flight from Hartford or from Boston down to Baltimore.
You don't want to do that anymore.
alex stein
I know.
See, and it's a great city like Baltimore, right outside of D.C.
It should be a classic city.
It's dangerous.
But then that's a slippery slope.
You know, you put the federal military over there.
It's like the federal government, should they be in charge of policing the citizens?
Because this is where I get worried too.
I go to D.C., I call AOC a big booty Latina.
I go and I confront Eric Swalwell about sleeping with Fang Fang.
And I go and I get in these politicians' faces.
And I know that a federal military police officer, I don't even know what the proper terminology is, is going to have more leeway when it comes to kind of jamming me up.
Like I'm potentially handcuffing me.
He's going to be held probably to a much lesser standard than a Capitol police officer or a local police officer.
So I'm just, I can see where this.
jamie reed
I'm old school anarchists.
Like, I'm totally not one that thinks that we need the military in all of these cities.
But why would the Baltimore mayor, what's the deal?
Like, why can't they just clean up their own city?
phil labonte
Because they won't.
They just refuse to put people in jail.
alex stein
They're brilliant.
They're probably collapsing.
phil labonte
The problem isn't just that they don't arrest people or that they're not arresting enough people.
It's that the DA and the judges don't prosecute and actually put people in jail.
This is a conversation that we've been having around the table here for the past couple of weeks because of the National Guard in D.C. If the DA refuses to put people in jail, but the National Guard can arrest somebody, but if it's the DA and the prosecutor, you're still going to have the same problem.
libby emmons
But that's the thing.
The National Guard can't arrest anybody.
So what's going on is that when Trump talks about bringing the National Guard in, like when he did in Los Angeles, right?
He brings the National Guard in essentially to in LA to protect immigration and customs enforcement.
So ICE officers were out there going out into the community arresting people because they have to, because that's the only way you can arrest people because law enforcement in California will not cooperate with federal agents.
jamie reed
Do they send him the big booty Latina pictures to say who?
phil labonte
Yeah, they all got to go.
They all got to go.
alex stein
It's a very simple thing.
libby emmons
Like child molesters.
phil labonte
They all got to go.
libby emmons
You know, a lot of people who have already have criminal convictions.
It's a lot of people who are getting arrested.
But so the National Guard can't do that.
They can just support what's there.
They can stand around.
It's kind of like, you know, in New York City, Kathy Hochul put 250 National Guard troops on the subways.
And everybody in media, all the leftists, everyone cheered for her, putting 250 National Guard troops on the subways because subway murders were up so much and attacks on conductors and everybody were up so high.
So that's what she did.
I'm pretty sure they're still out there.
No one's bitching at her about having, you know, taken control of the city and put National Guard troops on.
But as soon as Trump says things like, let's protect black people in this country in inner cities, let's stop that kind of crime and homicide.
Because who's getting murdered in D.C.?
It's mostly young black people get murdered in D.C.
I would say.
It's like, yeah, I mean, D.C. is like 46% black.
So it's not like that's just, that's the nature of the city.
Like, why is it a problem to go protect our young people in this country?
Their lives are so valuable.
They should be kept safe from this kind of crime and like the cartels and drug crime and all the rest of it.
But just be real.
alex stein
But let's be real.
I mean, who's the crime?
Young black people shooting other young black people, especially in the D.C.
libby emmons
Sure, so put a stop to it.
That's why you haven't had murders in D.C. Put a curfew on the Navy yard.
It's like, what is it, 8 p.m. to 6 a.m. or something is the curfew in the Navy yard?
alex stein
Whatever.
unidentified
You just can't walk around without a parent, which is probably very that seems like a really good idea.
libby emmons
I mean, I wouldn't let my kid walk around the Navy yard without a parent after 8 p.m. either.
alex stein
Hey, and if crime is down, then it is good.
But I'm just saying it's a lot of a culture issue, especially Baltimore, you know, predominantly African-American.
And the culture there is young people are getting their hands on guns, and not enough good guys have guns to shoot back.
Okay, well, listen, we've been talking a lot about dang Baltimore, talking about the federalization of all these cops.
Let's talk about what everybody wants to hear about: taxes, tariffs, Trump's tariffs.
He's making news.
They're saying the U.S. Appeals Court is saying the tariffs are not legal.
Now, I kind of am, I kind of don't like tariffs.
I don't like taxes.
I understand this is a negotiation tactic to, you know, make everybody, I guess, play fairly when it comes to our geopolitical trades.
But at the end of the day, if it is illegal, like, what the hell?
What do you guys think?
I guess I'll start with Phil.
What do you think about these tariffs are illegal?
Are they good or bad?
phil labonte
Tariffs overall.
I think that they're good if they're targeted.
I don't think overall, just general tariffs are good as long as there's an income tax.
There was a time when tariffs were used to fund the government before the income tax.
But if you have just a broad-based tariff, generally the American people tend to pay that, right?
The cost of goods goes up because of the tariffs.
The people that are receiving the merchandise pay the tariffs and then they increase the cost and they pass that cost increase onto the people.
So if you get rid of the income tax, tariffs may be a way to supplement it.
I don't know that I have a strong preference as for if there's benefit from Trump's tariffs now.
I think they've worked out fairly well so far, but it's $30 billion last year.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm not saying that.
No, hold on.
I'm not saying that there hasn't been money coming in, but that money has, I think that money has largely come from the American people paying that.
So it's just a tax increase at the end of the year.
libby emmons
You mean like the importers?
phil labonte
No, well, the importers take it in, and then they pass that cost on to the consumers.
libby emmons
But they also, they pay it.
phil labonte
No.
Yes, they pay it, but then they pay that initially.
Then they increase the cost of the goods and services that are being used.
libby emmons
But we haven't seen a lot of inflation.
phil labonte
There has been some inflation.
Inflation has not gone.
libby emmons
Gas is down.
karys rhea
But this is a big argument.
phil labonte
Libby, hold on.
Libby, hold on.
There has been some inflation.
libby emmons
I'm paying you back.
Did you see that Twitter person screaming at you for interrupting?
phil labonte
But I was trying to get you to expand on your idea.
But anyways, the point being, there has been some inflation, not significant and not bad inflation, but there has been some.
And it looks like that will continue.
But it's not going to be like the 10% that we had when Biden was in office because it's a totally different context.
But the actual price does get passed off to the American people.
alex stein
I bought 100 green dildos on Amazon and it was three times as much.
jamie reed
You could throw them at the women's NBA.
alex stein
I didn't throw anything, but I'm part of a Discord that I've not thrown anything.
jamie reed
Were they ever green that got thrown on?
alex stein
all green we do that on purpose uh so we're all sorry i i heard about it but i didn't bother Yeah, so the price of plastics through the roof, but you know, we're not going to stop throwing them.
I mean, I'm not part of that, but people are not going to stop.
karys rhea
I honestly think that this tariff thing is so much bigger than trade.
And that's why I fully support it.
And I fully support Trump using it as a negotiating tool in areas that are apart from trade, like foreign policy, national security.
I think it's a national security issue.
I think we've been under this illusion of this, like, yeah, it's like libertarian in the sense that it's based on free market and capitalism, but it's also leftist, this illusion of free trade in the sense that it's like very utopian because it ignores the fact that it only works if people play by the rules.
And when you have a country like China that is not playing by any of the rules and we have literally gutted our entire domestic industrial base and seeded it over to our greatest adversary who's now producing like over 80% of our generic medicines, then this does become a national security issue.
And the only thing that you can do in order to bring back manufacturing and industry to America is to have these targeted tariffs.
And I agree that they should be a temporary measure.
And I agree that there could even be some downsides short term.
But whenever you're trying to do like a massive overhaul like this, like, I mean, some people are going to get hurt.
Look what Trump's trying to do with gutting the bureaucracy.
Like, people get fired.
People lose their jobs.
It's horrible.
It's a horrible thing.
But I really think that it's what needs.
It's the only thing that really can bring back America as a flourishing manufacturing base.
alex stein
Well, Trump says the February tariffs against China and Canada and Mexico were appropriate because those countries were not doing enough to stop the illegal fentanyl trade from crossing the United States borders.
So I guess, Libby, you love fentanyl.
What do you think?
Do these taxes help your fentanyl connection dry up or what is it?
How is your fentanyl connection going this year?
libby emmons
It's been fine.
I've had it.
alex stein
Even with the taxes, Trump says he's got the tariff.
He says he's going to stop it.
You can read it right there.
He says the tariffs against China and Canada.
libby emmons
I think mine might be counterfeit, you know, because I'm out here in West Virginia, and so it's like sort of an Appalachian.
alex stein
Do you have any friends in New York that are doing fentanyl?
Can you call them and ask if the price has gone up?
libby emmons
No, all my friends in New York have children the same age as mine.
alex stein
Trust me, there's people with kids doing fentanyl in New York.
Okay, trust me.
I'm doing some right now.
I got a bunch of baby mamas.
But what is that?
libby emmons
I'm not opposed to the tariffs.
I got to say, I have had a lot of fun watching Trump's negotiation style with other countries.
I get trade deals.
karys rhea
It's incredible.
alex stein
I know, but what is the style?
Just do it or else, right?
karys rhea
No, no, no.
It's starting like we're going to slap like 100% tariffs on it as a way for them to come to the table.
And then it's incredible.
People just, they show up and they deliver what Trump wants.
And then Trump's like, okay, 30%.
phil labonte
There's a lot to be said about the influence that the United States has.
And I think that Barack Obama and Joe Biden were afraid to use the soft power that the United States has.
libby emmons
Well, because you know what it is?
They were spending a lot of money on the soft power.
They were creating trans comic books in Peru and sending condoms all over the world and providing abortions in Rwanda.
But they weren't actually taking advantage.
You're right, of what that soft power would do.
One thing that Obama did and Biden did a similar thing is they would come to the table saying, okay, we're going to negotiate with you, so we'll give up these things.
And then the other side would be like, okay, now that's baseline, you idiot, you know?
And Trump gives up nothing.
Trump's just like, we're going to take everything.
We're going to rule the world.
And, you know, if you're lucky, you get some crumbs.
karys rhea
And I also think that's the only thing that's.
I also think Trump is incredibly fair about this.
I don't think he's, I don't, I think, I don't think, no, I don't think he's over.
libby emmons
I think he's doing an awesome job for America.
I don't really care how he's doing for the rest of the world.
karys rhea
Well, no, but I think that he wants good relationships with other countries.
And That implies that there has to be some sort of mutual benefit to.
libby emmons
Yeah, he brings them to the White House gift shop.
He gives them a Trump 2028 hat and everybody's hat.
jamie reed
Olibby, I like how you're kind of upping the ante and how you're sliding trans into every single topic.
So I'm going to like try to keep pasted here.
You did.
Trans comic books.
libby emmons
I apologize.
alex stein
Oh, yeah.
jamie reed
You haven't obviously the one thing about what this news story headline actually was is that the courts are trying to say that his tariffs are illegal.
And one of the things that I do keep seeing happen over and over and over again is the courts keep jamming up every single thing that's been tried.
alex stein
They have seen files.
The judge did not let the Even files.
libby emmons
And they won't let that out.
alex stein
Sorry, go ahead by that.
jamie reed
Well, but even the executive orders that I really supported, every single one of them has been jammed up in the courts.
So part of the problems with these things is we can't actually see what could come of it because the courts often are what's stopping things.
phil labonte
So I'm not against Trump's, any of the actions that Trump has taken.
I think that it's fine that he's trying all these things.
But it is worth noting that Congress is supposed to actually be the ones that decide whether or not there are tariffs or not.
So legitimately, it's constitutional for Congress to do it.
Technically, it's unconstitutional for Trump to do it.
So that's why he gets jammed up sometimes.
But again, I'm not against him trying this stuff, but by the letter of the Constitution, it is supposed to be Congress that does this.
But Congress doesn't like to do its job.
Congress loves to do it.
libby emmons
Wasn't it EPA versus the West Virginia a couple of years ago?
And West Virginia was like, we're not going to do what you say, EPA, because you don't actually have any control over us.
And it ended up in the Supreme Court.
And the Supreme Court was like, yeah, EPA wants to do all of this stuff.
They say that they have the power to do it because they were created by Congress, but Congress is the one that has to legislate all of this.
And Congress is like, no, we don't want to do that.
We just want to go on some more junkets.
We want to take August off.
karys rhea
About, I mean, doesn't, if they hold the purse strings and if they have the power, are you guys saying?
phil labonte
They don't want to.
The reason they don't want to is because then they have to face their voters.
If you can go as a Congress.
karys rhea
They have to what?
phil labonte
Then they have to face their voters.
They have to go to their voters and say, I voted yes on this.
I voted no on this.
Congress doesn't want to do that.
They don't want to ever have to take responsibility.
It's much easier and better for the individual congresspeople to pass it off to a bureaucratic agency, let the bureaucrats take it, because they don't have to be voted for.
They just get appointed, and then when a new administration comes in, they get a cushy job somewhere on K Street or something like that.
And then when a friendly administration comes back in, they go back into the administration.
It's easier that way for both the people in Congress and the bureaucrats.
It's a great deal.
Nobody gets voted out of office.
libby emmons
The only ones who get screwed are the voters.
unidentified
Exactly.
alex stein
Reisman Crockett works her ass off, so do not act like she's not.
libby emmons
She's making the podcast circuit.
She's getting her nails did.
alex stein
I know, and she's got her new eyelashes.
So trust me, there are some politicians that are really grinding.
She also has new hair.
You know, I guess my personal opinion when I look at this, there are some, I guess, legal loopholes that Trump tries to use that probably aren't necessarily legal, but I think he does have America's best interests, so I probably don't necessarily disagree with him.
libby emmons
I don't think there are loopholes so much as he is testing the norms.
And he's testing some laws.
unidentified
And he's testing some laws.
libby emmons
right?
But he's really testing norms.
Because a lot of things that you see the Democrats and leftists getting upset about saying that Trump is destroying democracy, what they're really saying is he's not doing things the way that we've done them for the past 20 years.
He's doing them differently.
And even though it's not illegal, it's different and we don't like it.
And this is the same batch of people who keep screaming every four years about how they want change, but they don't actually know what they want to change from what into what.
They just know that they don't want Trump.
And that's where they're at.
And so what I think is most interesting about all of these court decisions that keep coming up, this appellate court now, what is this federal circuit?
You have the appellate courts all over the country striking down Venezuelans getting deported, striking down the elimination of TPS, which is so stupid.
And that's because at the end of Biden's term, he prematurely extended it for a whole nother term, which you know what that is?
That's breaking norms, everybody.
That's not what you're supposed to do.
But what I think is interesting, we were talking about this pre-show, is the courts don't actually have any power.
They just say stuff.
They have no enforcement mechanism.
And so I wonder how far can the courts push their stupidity and demanding that people like Kilmar Obrego Garcia get come back or like you can't deport people to Uganda, even though Uganda was like, what?
Send them in.
This goes to pay us.
Like, what happens when the courts go too far and everyone's like, screw you?
phil labonte
This goes to a point that I was making the other night.
There is only so much that the president can do if he doesn't have the support, the popular support of the people.
And exactly.
But if he has the popular support of the people, the president can get away with a ton of stuff.
And this has been demonstrated on both sides of the aisle.
unidentified
But like, if like Obama got it got away with the president.
libby emmons
And George Bush got away with the Patriot Act.
phil labonte
The president has great, great power that he can exercise as long as he has people that agree.
And I was making this point to Mary, and I forget who else.
I forget who else it was, but they were like, he should do more to deport people and blah, blah, blah.
And the argument I was making is it's bad to have ICE grabbing grandma, Abuela, and grandpa and throwing them into cruisers to take them off because that makes Karen upset.
And Karen goes out in the street and she yells at ICE people and then you get videos that Karen took and she puts up these videos on Facebook and on Instagram and then popular support starts to diminish.
So it's better to not have to use ICE to grab people off the street and throw them into vans to deport them.
It's better to make it difficult for people that are here illegally to stay, make it difficult for them to find housing, make it difficult for them to keep their jobs, punish the people.
libby emmons
Take away the $3,000 a month.
Absolutely.
phil labonte
But the point that I'm making is he can do things.
The president can do things as long as he has support.
But things that are bad optically will lose support.
But when it comes to things that are, you know, whether or not it's constitutional, that's really a gray area as long as he has popular support.
karys rhea
Is there a way that we can rate like I've heard certain political appointees in the Trump administration say that what the district courts are doing involving themselves in these federal affairs is actually illegal.
If that's the case, then are there practical steps that can be taken other than ignoring their rulings?
alex stein
No, there's not.
That's the reason why we're never going to find out about Jeffrey Epstein because he was probably connected to intelligence, not just for America, but probably for Israel.
And so when they have classified levels of information and judges can protect it and, you know, even a president can't veto that.
karys rhea
They're like the biggest control effort.
alex stein
No, I'm being honest.
I'm just saying there are, there's the classified levels of information that Donald Trump cannot expose.
It's actually a crime for him to expose certain classified levels of information.
phil labonte
So I'm not 100% sure about that.
Libby, wasn't there any movie?
So you're saying that the president has discretion to what is or is not classified.
libby emmons
He's in the Presidential Records Act.
karys rhea
I guess my question would be more for like a legal Presidential Records Act.
libby emmons
So he can take whatever he wants.
unidentified
I was just wondering if there's any practical steps.
karys rhea
I was just wondering if there's any practical steps, though, that can be taken against the district court.
phil labonte
So I think, well, hold on.
Libby, wasn't there a case that was just decided by the Supreme Court that said that these nationwide injunctions are not constitutional?
libby emmons
Yes.
What case was that?
phil labonte
It was about the 14th Amendment, about whether or not people that are born here are actually citizens.
libby emmons
That's right.
It was birthright.
It was birthright.
Yeah, so the court was saying that the court was saying that for the individual cases, the individual people, the moms who brought the case and said, my baby gets to be a citizen, those cases are separate.
You can't make a decision on those cases and have it apply to everybody.
But what was interesting about that is under the Biden administration, when you had, I think it was Moms for Liberty and some other groups brought cases about some education stuff, they got a nationwide injunction and it had to stop across the country.
So was it Title IX?
I think it might have been Title IX stuff.
phil labonte
I'm not sure, but I know.
libby emmons
I don't remember.
But yeah, they said no nationwide injunctions, which the ACLU got mad about because they really wanted to just bring one case and have it apply to everybody.
And now they're back to having to bring individual cases in every jurisdiction where there's, you know, an illegal immigrant who wants their baby to be an American.
alex stein
Well, guys, we've talked about a lot tonight, but I want to talk about a subject that is very serious, something I'm very passionate about: air travel.
I flew up here.
I flew to D.C., and sadly, this year, there was a very famous collision that happened with a military helicopter and an American Airlines passenger airline that crashed right here in D.C., arguably, a first world city, but we can't even get our planes to land without crashing into each other.
But sadly, we see that there are people who are potentially going to use AI to help stop this.
But go to the other one.
This is actually before we even get into this.
Today, disaster averted, Southwest and Spirit Airlines nearly collided.
They were at 30,000 feet in the air.
karys rhea
I think there should be pictures.
alex stein
Look at the picture.
Look how insane this looks.
These are two commercial planes.
And this is the thing: a lot of these planes, they have autopilot.
They put certain coordinates.
libby emmons
How did that happen?
alex stein
Exactly.
libby emmons
Was one above the other?
alex stein
They were right above each other.
So they must have had the same coordinates in the airplane because they have special coordinates like roads that we have in streets.
libby emmons
Wait a second.
Can we go back to that picture?
phil labonte
Certain altitudes.
jamie reed
Until you showed those pictures where it.
karys rhea
Yeah, it's not.
phil labonte
So if I understand correctly, certain altitudes correspond with certain directions.
So if you're at like 33,000 feet, you can only be going east-west.
Well, pardon me?
libby emmons
That's really messed up.
phil labonte
Yeah, it's scary looking.
But if you're, you know, so if you're going to sideways in the sky.
Yeah, so certain altitudes means you're going one way.
libby emmons
They have windows in the cockpit.
phil labonte
I couldn't hear you.
What did you say?
unidentified
Sorry.
libby emmons
I'm sorry.
phil labonte
What did you say?
alex stein
Go ahead, Phil.
unidentified
Go ahead.
phil labonte
What did you say?
libby emmons
I said, how come they couldn't see each other?
Don't they have windows in the cockpit?
phil labonte
I mean, look, you don't really have a window that's looking up or down.
You've seen what the cockpit is.
karys rhea
You really are really reliant on that.
libby emmons
When I was a kid and I used to fly back and forth between my parents in Boston and New York, sometimes the pilot would let me look in the cockpit and he'd give me a little set of wings.
phil labonte
Yeah, and those are like, it's kind of narrow.
alex stein
Nobody gives a shit about that.
Well, we do give a shit about sliding.
Nobody gives a shit.
Everybody's gotten stupid plastic wings in the plane.
libby emmons
No, they don't.
alex stein
I want to answer your question: they can't see.
They don't have rearview mirrors.
Sometimes in like the 737, they have cameras which can look all around them.
But the point is to what Phil was saying, is like they have special coordinates at certain elevations.
They have to go in certain directions.
So this can only happen if their coordinates are together.
So that's why AI, this is why this is a bigger issue because they should have not, they, computers should have never been set to where this could even be possible because it's incredibly dangerous.
And we've already had an aviation disaster where two people collided and a bunch of people died.
karys rhea
There have been a bunch of like near misses.
alex stein
They say not to fly into Newark.
The Newark, New Jersey, there's ex-workers that literally said that they're aviation workers and they said they would not fly into Newark, New Jersey if their life depended on it.
But there's also people that Boeing whistleblower said that he went in the new Boeing factory in Seattle when they made the 737 MAX 8 jet.
And there's actually hidden camera Project Veritas style interviews where people are like, man, I wouldn't fly on this plane.
I wouldn't fly on this.
karys rhea
Yeah, well, I suggested that other article because my friend wrote it recently and sent it to me, the one about AI.
And it was so interesting because it was saying how like most of these near misses or even accidents are the problem of human error and air traffic controllers, which are now very understaffed and very overworked.
And that's why this conversation about AI is becoming more and more prominent.
But there's a lot of like as much as AI can apparently help with being able to spot certain things ahead of time.
Apparently it's very limited when it comes to unpredictable situations, like things that are not on historical flight maps or anything like that.
And so there's also a lot of questions.
And it also people also wonder if using AI, because you'll have to do it in conjunction with actual like analog and human, like you're going to have to have a human always controlling that.
And the question is, is whether having that AI is going to make air traffic controllers let their guard down even more than they are and be over-reliant on the technology.
So there's just a lot of like up in the air questions.
And people who are in this industry have, I mean, the article was so interesting because different people just have such opposite opinions on it in the industry, but very like firm opinions, like either pro or against the AI elements of it.
alex stein
Well, I mean, you know, obviously there could be back doors, maybe it could be hacked, maybe it could be used, like you said, where people get too reliant on it and they get lazy because like there's Uber East drivers that have been driving the same city for five years and they don't even know where they're at because they're so reliant on these apps and AI.
So yeah, I think it is very dangerous.
Jamie, do you fly a lot?
You said you fly to all these states.
Are you worried about getting in an accident?
jamie reed
I wasn't until now.
alex stein
You should be.
It's horrible.
A lot of near misses.
karys rhea
Really terrifying.
alex stein
And the pilots are all crazy too.
A lot of them are on all kinds of stuff.
Well, there's a guy that just at Southwest Airlines just got a pilot got arrested for DUI trying to fly a plane drunk.
karys rhea
Did he, really?
alex stein
Yeah, it just happened here to pull it up.
Yeah, it happened like less than a month ago.
Yeah.
unidentified
Some of the Jimmy Dore thing, like Jimmy Dore right here was in a plane.
I saw this.
He mentioned how apparently they were like within 500 feet of each other.
libby emmons
Oh, that's right.
I remember that one.
unidentified
Yeah, I remember that's exactly right.
jamie reed
Honestly, my flight today into DC, I thought there was something wrong at the end because it was just back and forth.
alex stein
See, that's what it does.
Did you fly into Reagan?
Reagan has such a weird thing where you have to do all those turns.
jamie reed
I was motion sick in the plane.
alex stein
A lot of people get sick flying into Reagan because they make you make those hard turns.
But this is where I get worried about aviation.
Like the MAX 8 plane, that's the Boeing plane where the whistleblower was talking about.
That was having a computer issue where the pilots were just totally fine and the plane would just start nosediving and a couple of the pilots weren't able to correct in time.
So it's like there's also an argument to be made that DEI is caused that because they're using cheap Indian coders to make this software for Boeing.
And I don't know if that's necessarily true, but it's weird that the highest technology, the computer is what's messing up.
libby emmons
Oh, that is weird.
alex stein
That's what I'm saying with these Boeing planes.
It's like they can't even write the code right.
karys rhea
So I don't.
But I thought Indians were like the best coders.
alex stein
They say that, but they lie.
They're the best at lying on their resumes.
phil labonte
Actually, right now, actually, right now, AI is the best coder.
Yeah, AI to the point where AI can write code better than any human.
alex stein
But then imagine they use AI code and there is a hiccup in there, and it's because they use AI to do it.
There's just always a possibility, like the Max 8 Jets that had this.
phil labonte
Right now, AI is a tool.
It works best as a tool for something that has a person in the beginning and a person check the work.
So you have someone that's really good at coding.
AI makes them insanely good at coding.
You get someone that's good at, you know, it's essentially just a tool, right?
jamie reed
So AI has been a terrible tool in what I do, though.
As an advocate and like working on the T issue, I mean, we cannot use any of these, at least the chat, the Google, Gemini, like they're all totally language captured.
Like, I can't even ask.
alex stein
You're saying it's woke.
You can't even get rid of it.
jamie reed
Oh, no.
It like will straight up tell me like you're being a transphobic.
libby emmons
Well, Grok turned into Nazi Grok because of people like a big problem is that the AI as it exists now is being trained on woke liberal leftist media and content.
So these AI companies don't see a reason to train their LLMs on conservative media like the Postmillennial or you know the New York Post.
They just don't do it.
I mean, and so you have like AI advocates who are conservative trying to advocate for these companies to not be regurgitation machines for leftist ideology.
And it's really been tough for them to get that through.
And that's not just, it's not just Chat GPT.
I mean, Grok too, right?
unidentified
I mean, every time I say problem, that's what you have to say to it.
libby emmons
No, but I get it.
It would affect what James affects what I do.
jamie reed
I go into Chat GPT.
It feeds you lies.
I say, do you remember who I am?
And it will.
phil labonte
Well, it's not going to remember who you are.
jamie reed
Well, it'll say things like, oh, yes, you're a whistleblower.
One time it replied to me, it said, Yes, I know that you never want me to refer to anyone as Mix as an honorarium MX.
It was like, you told me that that's off limits.
unidentified
But it'll slide, you know, it just, it makes stuff up.
karys rhea
I mean, you also have the problem of someone AI me on a podcast last week, and they just, I was like, do you want a bio?
And they were like, no, no, no, I use AI.
And then they just read it.
It was totally wrong.
libby emmons
It's totally wrong.
alex stein
It lies.
Like, they've done AI where they ask it, like, who won the 1974 World Series?
And it's like, the Texas Rangers versus this, and that the Rangers weren't even.
jamie reed
But you're telling me that it can't even find that out, but I'm supposed to trust it to fly the plane.
alex stein
Well, it's funny you say that.
phil labonte
I mean, look, so you're talking about different technologies, right?
An LLM is not the same thing.
alex stein
Language modeling model.
phil labonte
Yeah, a large language model is not the same thing as like, say, your chess game, right?
Chess is when you play against the computer, you're playing against an artificial intelligence.
karys rhea
Yeah, it's like we haven't found a cure for the common cold that we can perform the most intimate spinal surgeries, whatever.
It's different.
phil labonte
Yeah, it's different things.
And so when you're talking about like, so for instance, we use this example all the time.
The Tesla full self-driving is artificial intelligence.
And it is a totally different type of artificial intelligence than a large language model.
It's taking, it's actually identifying things in the world.
It uses cameras to see the same way that humans do.
And it identifies things and it can actually drive.
Now, I've got a Tesla, and I just drove out to Loudoun County today.
The entire way was full self-driving.
The entire way back was full self-driving.
There's one time that I had to turn it off because it doesn't, for some reason, it doesn't like toll booths.
It just wants to keep going through them.
But for the most part, other than the toll booth, it was perfectly fine.
jamie reed
There's something so interesting to me in that.
So you're telling me that it works when it's having to recognize the reality around it and operate within reality.
But language is all about control.
And part of the problem I have with it is it wants to control our language.
phil labonte
I understand what you're saying, but when you use the word it, you're specifying all you're not specifying which one.
You're talking about AI as all of them, all of AI is it, right?
And it's not.
A full self-driving algorithm or the AI and full self-driving is a totally different machine, totally different algorithm, totally different thing from a large language model.
We use this phrase AI as a blanket term, and it's not really functional anymore.
The way that AI is, the way that these technologies are evolving, it's not correct to say AI is all the same.
Large language models are not the same as full self-driving, which are not the same as the AIs that will generate video or audio.
It's not the same as, you know, there are all these different types of AI.
And what people tend to think is all the AI is kind of going towards what you would call AGI, which is artificial general intelligence.
And you're not really, they're not really 100% sure.
There's differing opinions on whether or not AGI will ever actually be a thing.
alex stein
Well, regardless, the problem with, and obviously you heard Phil talk about how he was in his Tesla and he didn't have to do anything.
And the problem there is that there are some negative side effects.
Like they're saying that these pilots that rely on AI are not able to basically handle a stressful situation because they don't have any experience because they're always on autopilot.
And I think that's when we talk about the negative side effects.
That's one of the major ones because we don't.
jamie reed
Oh, yeah.
You were trying to talk about taxi drivers earlier.
There's actually research studies that showed like old school taxi drivers, like the parts of their brain that had to, yeah, that was mapping the city around them was actually.
alex stein
You have to challenge your brain to make it remember things.
jamie reed
Yeah.
alex stein
You have to.
karys rhea
I find that even just moving here to DC and it's like, I haven't even learned the roads because I'm just so reliant on GPS when I drive.
alex stein
Yeah, you never.
unidentified
You never will.
It's DC.
You're never going to.
alex stein
Yeah, you're never going to.
karys rhea
But I mean, you know, if you move to a new city and you don't have GPS, you're actually forced to use that part of your brain.
Everybody has spatial.
Everybody has hilarious.
No, but it's kind of sad.
I mean, even like.
alex stein
I remember you just had to print it out and you'd have MapQuest.
karys rhea
MapQuest, remember?
alex stein
You'd make a wrong turn and you'd be totally screwed.
unidentified
You'd have to like entire tours.
phil labonte
So from one venue to the next venue for a whole month mapped all out.
We had a big binder.
You'd go on tours.
libby emmons
I used to just have a map.
alex stein
We all had the map too.
I had the map quest too because it just, because it did it for you.
karys rhea
We had the map questions.
alex stein
Libby, that is so fucking annoying.
You're going to map shame us.
Like, I didn't use MapQuest.
You know, I'm so smart.
phil labonte
I read books.
alex stein
Have you ever heard of a map?
Yeah, Libby, we know what a map is.
We had maps too.
We just liked it because it gave us points.
unidentified
We've got the directions.
libby emmons
Like, Libby, you're not.
alex stein
Oh, you know what I had in my car?
karys rhea
She's so much better.
I didn't even have a car.
alex stein
Sherlock had a map.
Everybody had a map back then.
We didn't have GPS.
Sorry, I'm getting a map.
libby emmons
I didn't have a car, though.
I did not have a car.
phil labonte
What good was the map?
jamie reed
You were sitting around with the GPI.
alex stein
The map?
That's crazy.
jamie reed
My mom's in my mom.
alex stein
So you're in your mom's car.
phil labonte
So you were in a car.
alex stein
And once again, you're gaslighting it.
unidentified
You were in a car.
alex stein
You're like, I didn't have a car.
But you were using it in a car!
Your mom's car.
libby emmons
You're fun.
You're fun to be.
alex stein
I know, because I'm hot.
I get hot.
And we've got all these women in here and I just get into.
libby emmons
I just can't handle it.
alex stein
And I don't want to repeal the 19th Amendment.
I still think you broad should be able to vote for some weird reason.
karys rhea
Just you three, though.
alex stein
No, no, y'all are low on the totem ball.
You shouldn't vote.
The chat is saying, why does she have an Israeli flag bigger than the American flag?
And I think I agree.
karys rhea
I haven't even saw it.
Watch them clip that.
Watch them clip me.
libby emmons
She has three American things.
unidentified
They should clip it.
libby emmons
There's four American things and one.
karys rhea
Oh, yeah.
No, I have four USA.
libby emmons
Yeah.
alex stein
Yeah, but it's smaller than the Israel flag.
karys rhea
Yeah, because they didn't have a big, I got them all at the same place and they didn't have a big USA one.
jamie reed
As long as you don't have a progress pride flag, you're fine with me.
alex stein
Now, I think some people would find that flag.
karys rhea
Some people would.
Yeah.
alex stein
Some people would.
karys rhea
I don't mind that.
alex stein
Do you think this is a good topic?
What do you guys think about, and I know you guys already covered it, but I think the flag burning, I really don't like it.
But at the same time, if they made it illegal to burn a flag with the Star of David, then I think it should be illegal to burn an American flag too.
But, you know, I believe in freedom of speech.
libby emmons
What about it being illegal to burn the progress pride flag?
jamie reed
Yeah, this is.
alex stein
Is it illegal to burn the pride flag?
phil labonte
It should be a special day to burn those, and all you do is burn them.
libby emmons
We cut out.
jamie reed
Cut out the thing.
karys rhea
And I thought, no, it's just, I don't know.
I'm so, I fully support that it's illegal to burn the American flag in America.
I support it.
But I totally understand why people don't.
phil labonte
I would never burn an American flag, but I made the argument that the Ninth Amendment covers burning the American flag.
libby emmons
I was here for that.
I don't think you should be burning stuff in public parks.
I'm pretty sure burning things in parks is illegal.
alex stein
Yeah, but what about your backyard?
Like, I think they're still going to say that.
libby emmons
Yeah, but I mean, you can do whatever you want in your backyard.
alex stein
Can you still burn a flag in your backyard and post it on the back of the corner?
libby emmons
Maybe not if it's an HOA.
alex stein
You know what I'm saying?
phil labonte
Then it's not really your house if it's an HOA.
alex stein
I'm just saying you don't own your backyard.
I don't know.
I don't know what the legal ramifications are.
If you could go in your backyard and film it, is that a crime?
phil labonte
So to this point about burning in your backyard or whatever.
karys rhea
Why the Ninth Amendment?
Isn't that like the right?
phil labonte
Well, the Ninth Amendment.
Okay, I'll explain it.
So the idea of whether or not you should be allowed to burn a flag or whether or not burning a flag should be a crime is one idea, right?
Whether or not you can burn something in public is a distraction from the primary talking point, right?
Or the primary discussion.
The discussion is not whether or not you can commit arson.
The discussion is not whether or not you can burn things that are not your property.
The discussion is whether or not it should be legal to burn the American flag, right?
That's the primary topic.
As for the Ninth Amendment, the Ninth Amendment reads, the enumeration in the Constitution of certain rights shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
So the Bill of Rights is simply a list of things that the federal government cannot do.
There is no limitation in either the Constitution or the Bill of Rights on the American people because the American people are and ought to be free.
That was the opinion of the founders.
You are free to do whatever you want.
These things in the Bill of Rights specifically are prohibited from being legislated by the federal government.
There are things that the federal government can do, but these things we specifically said.
The Ninth Amendment basically is saying, just because we didn't specifically say that the federal government can't legislate that, doesn't mean that the federal government is only prohibited from legislating those things.
And the Ninth Amendment specifically says for people that would say, well, it doesn't say in the Constitution that we can't do that.
The Ninth Amendment is the specific refutation to that argument, right?
If you say, show me in the Constitution where it says that we can't do that, the Ninth Amendment.
The Ninth Amendment says that you can't just go ahead and pass whatever law you want.
And then, furthermore, the 10th Amendment goes on to reinforce the Ninth Amendment.
So the argument that there was an argument that myself and Jack Pessobic were having.
I said, you know, you have the freedom, the freedom of expression.
And Jack was like, tell me where it says the freedom of expression in the Constitution.
libby emmons
And you're saying the Ninth Amendment blanket covers all freedoms that are not specifically enumerated.
phil labonte
Yeah.
It basically says the American people are and ought to be free, which undeniably was the opinion of the founders.
You can get into the minutiae about what should or should not be legislated.
Jack went and said, well, you know, it should be the states that would decide whether or not it should be legal to burn the national flag.
And I think that that's a bit of a cop-out.
That's a bit of taking an exit ramp away from the actual point.
libby emmons
Yeah, but he was comparing it to Roe, which I thought was interesting.
alex stein
Well, I would argue that we don't have the First Amendment because in their states in Florida, like you can't even speak ill about Israel, right?
And I'm very pro-Israel, but isn't that weird that they do limit, they have hate speech laws?
phil labonte
I think that all hate speech laws are an abomination.
All hate speech laws are not available.
I'm a bomb.
libby emmons
I'm not sure if I have BDS.
karys rhea
They have BDS laws.
libby emmons
No hate speech.
alex stein
So you tell me hate speech laws don't exist now, Chris?
libby emmons
In Florida?
alex stein
Yes.
karys rhea
It's Karis.
No, they have BDS laws.
libby emmons
What's that?
karys rhea
So that basically says that a boycott, divest, and so it says that if you're a business that's receiving government funds and as a business entity or an organization that's receiving government funds, you decide to boycott Israel, then the government is no longer going to fund you.
Just like it doesn't fund, just like it's now threatening funding from, you know, against like universities that are like not protecting Jewish students or not protecting women, Title IX protections and stuff like that.
That's what BDS laws are, and they're very strong in Florida.
alex stein
That's interesting.
Which is bullshit because we should be able to boycott anybody we want.
unidentified
We should.
karys rhea
But that doesn't mean that the government can give you funding if they don't agree with your values.
libby emmons
So the law isn't that you can't do it.
The law is you can't get government funding if you do exactly.
karys rhea
And it's also, and you can do it personally, but it's just about, it's just whether you, it's just about, they said the same thing about universities.
libby emmons
You can't, you know, be racist against Jewish students or white students or Asian students and continue to get our funding.
Exactly.
karys rhea
But also, again, it doesn't apply to even individuals boycotting Israel.
It only applies to if you're with the government.
libby emmons
Yeah.
That would be crazy.
alex stein
Well, we have a lot of super chats, but before we get into that, I want to talk about something that is very, very sad for me.
Obviously, you guys know that I'm a big booty Latina connoisseur.
I know Jamie, the resident lesbian, obviously loves big booty Latinas too.
Lesbians love them more than a heterosexual men.
It's really kryptonite for a lesbian.
Sawy Samahayek is still relevant because of lesbians.
And we love lesbians.
But TikTok star 32 years young is found dead along with her husband and her two children, 7 and 13 years old, in a truck sparking Mexican cartel murder fears.
Esmeralda Ferrara Gabre, or Garabay, excuse me, I can't even read that.
32 years old and her spouse, Roberto Gil La Sea, 36, died alongside their son Gail Santiago and their daughter Regina.
Now, authorities are saying that this TikTok fascinista was shut down by the cartel linked to some sort of nefarious drug moving here in Guadalajara.
It was in Guadalajara, Mexico.
And this is why I get sad because if she just would have had amnesty here in America, this would not have happened.
And this is why I think amnesty for big booty Latinas is so necessary because she was not a cartel member.
She was never in the cartel.
She just happened to be blessed with some big cans.
And it's all got to go back.
And look at that.
She had a facial structure of a white woman, basically.
So she could have basically had white babies.
So my point is, I don't want the cartel to take out all these big booty Latinas, whether in Guadalajara or they're in Washington, D.C.
So I guess my point is, Phil, you don't agree with this statement, but could you imagine she would still be alive today if you would agree with my policy of amnesty for big booty Latinas?
Don't you feel like you're responsible for her death?
phil labonte
Got to break a few eggs and you're making omelet.
libby emmons
I don't think she applied for amnesty, though.
alex stein
I know.
Wasn't that her biggest mistake?
libby emmons
So she probably wasn't going to get amnesty.
Do you know, like, most.
alex stein
If my laws were in place, maybe she would have had immediate amnesty.
libby emmons
If it was still Biden and Chicken trans, she or LGBT or really anything because he had affirmative action.
So, and you definitely didn't have to wait in Mexico.
So maybe she had applied for amnesty and she was stuck.
alex stein
Maybe she was deported.
libby emmons
Because of Trump.
But there's been serious cartel violence in Mexico lately.
Like they keep finding heads, like just severed heads along the road.
There were like nine students who were, you know, butchered to death.
And it's, it's pretty bad, you know?
And that's why you had the Trump administration is going after the cartels and like seizing all this money.
And Mexico was like, hey, you're seizing all this cartel money.
You should give a bunch of it to us.
phil labonte
Because the cartel was going to give it to them.
libby emmons
Yeah.
The cartel was going to give it to them anyway.
I mean, the cartels like own judges and police to do that.
phil labonte
So I don't like Scheinbaum wouldn't be the president if the cartel didn't say it's okay for her to be the president.
libby emmons
That's right.
phil labonte
She's been, you know, she makes a strong stance against Trump because Trump actually will go after the cartels and she has to say those things.
Whether or not she actually would do anything to try to prevent the United States.
karys rhea
She's a progressive, right?
unidentified
Isn't she?
phil labonte
I mean, her name's Sheinbaum.
alex stein
Yeah, you know what's unique about her?
She actually, coming to this election, don't quote me on it, but I believe there were 57 presidential candidates that were assassinated in the most recent election.
libby emmons
I don't know if it was 57, but it was a 1700.
alex stein
36.
Excuse me.
That's why I said.
phil labonte
I don't know if it was all president.
I know there were some, but I don't know if all 37 were presidential candidates.
I know they were other governmental officials.
They were people that were going to be in the government.
alex stein
And then the first Jewish woman that started to run, they stopped killing the presidential nominees.
I wonder if there's any correlation with that.
phil labonte
I don't.
karys rhea
I'm sorry, I wasn't listening to her.
phil labonte
Do you think the Mossad get her elected?
alex stein
She lived by Massad?
libby emmons
Scheinbaum?
alex stein
Yeah.
libby emmons
Elected by Mossad?
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
Do they protect her?
libby emmons
I don't even think there's an international commitment.
unidentified
Like, yes, she's the only Jewish president in Mexico's history.
Duh.
alex stein
Like, how thick are you sometimes?
Why also do you make that connection?
Do you think she works for Mossad?
phil labonte
No.
alex stein
Is she Israeli government?
Was she on Epstein's Island?
Was she with Bill Clinton?
karys rhea
Jeffrey Epstein.
Depstein didn't work for Massad.
alex stein
Oh, come on.
karys rhea
You think anybody who works for Mossad is going to lay a throat that says I work for Massad?
alex stein
Do you know who Ghelane was?
karys rhea
Really think the Mossad is that thing?
alex stein
Because you're so smart.
Do you know who Ghelaine Maxwell is?
Do you know who Ghelaine Maxwell's father is?
karys rhea
What?
alex stein
Robert Maxwell.
You know when Robert Maxwell died, you know what kind of funeral they gave him?
They gave him a fairy.
karys rhea
Tell me more from the Croy Person.
Tell me more from Candace Owens.
Please, please, please.
It's not from Candace Owens.
alex stein
See, this is why this abroad is so stupid because this is just open.
This is just open information.
No, it's not from Candace.
No, it's not from Candace because when Robert Maxwell died, he was never in the Israeli military, but he got this.
karys rhea
Go back to when we were talking about it.
Shut up.
unidentified
Shut up.
alex stein
Let me finish talking.
Of course, she's going to use her Jewish magic to try to cancel me.
No, no, no, no.
libby emmons
Let me finish what I'm saying.
alex stein
Ghelaine Maxwell's dad, Robert Maxwell, when he died and he fell off a boat in a very weird way.
When he died, he got an official Israeli IDF hero's funeral.
The funeral that only a certain person had even lost their life in the line of battle.
libby emmons
Was Esmeralda Farmer Galbraith, was she involved at all with the government?
alex stein
No, listen, do not try to derail me from this.
I'm trying to talk about serious stuff.
You say no, because I have idiots like you that say, oh, there's no connection to Jeffrey Epstein and Missoula.
karys rhea
Look at how ambition you are.
alex stein
Shut your mouth for two seconds.
You just shut up.
This is the thing.
Yeah, because I get mad because she's lying.
Let me tell you something.
Jeffrey Epstein.
karys rhea
I think you lie all the time.
alex stein
I don't get it.
Listen, Jeff.
This is not a lie.
Jeffrey Estee.
karys rhea
I have the courage in my community.
Let me finish my point.
alex stein
Ghelaine Maxwell, her father worked for Israel.
She is now currently in prison for sex trafficking children.
Her connection to her father is directly connected to Mossad.
Now, people like you are going to lie and say that there's no connection to that means.
But when you look at Jeffrey Epstein, and you can look this up, when they did a search of his house, they found that he didn't just have an American passport.
He also had an Israeli passport.
So if you really do not think that he was not connected with our intelligent agencies and the intelligence agencies of the woman that he was working with, two sexually trafficked kids, whose father has so much evidence that he was part of Israelis Mossad agency, you're the liar.
You're the one that's not connecting the dots when it's so obvious.
So I get frustrated when you just sit there and lie and say there's no connection.
karys rhea
I said he didn't work for Mossad.
alex stein
You don't know that.
You have no idea.
karys rhea
I don't know that he does.
alex stein
Well, there's a lot of dots that are connected, and I know that there's classified levels of influence.
karys rhea
Yes, but there's also, yes, but he's also been connected to other intelligence agencies not just Massad.
And also, he was an incredibly part of the political class.
He was the elites.
And there's a whole political and there's a whole political class in Israel, just like a deep state, just like in America.
And those people were all hotknobbing around.
He's very powerful.
And the only person that he had a connection to in Israel was Ehud Barak.
alex stein
That's his only connection?
Ghelain Maxwell's dad is Robert Maxwell.
How stupid are you?
Do you not realize who Robert Maxwell is?
karys rhea
Epstein.
alex stein
And do you not know Jeffrey Epstein's connected to Ghelane Maxwell?
Are you too stupid to put that together?
karys rhea
Okay.
alex stein
No, I just don't know how stupid you are because you don't think that Ghelaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein work together.
karys rhea
I think this is what I think.
I think you should have Park McDougal on from Tablet Magazine.
And I think you're not going to be able to do that.
alex stein
Sounds like a retard.
I don't need Tablet Magazine to realize that Ghelaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein work together.
You don't want to admit that because it connects the dots and it makes Israel look bad.
And then you look at people like Tom Alexandrovich of a pedophile.
jamie reed
I'm a media.
alex stein
No, no, no, no, no.
jamie reed
How can I help?
alex stein
No, you can't media because I'm sick of liars.
I'm just sick of liars.
Like, you're the type of person with Tom Alexander.
No, no, no, no, no, real quick, Jamie.
phil labonte
Hey, guys, guys, let's get pissed.
Just bring it down.
unidentified
Just bring it down.
phil labonte
Bring it down.
karys rhea
That Jeffrey Epstein didn't work for Mossad.
unidentified
I'm lying.
alex stein
Yes, yeah, because you're not connecting the dots.
You're trying to.
It's like Tom Alexandrovich.
Why did Vinji Netanyahu lie?
Tom Alexandrovich.
karys rhea
The fact that you're so sure about this and it makes you so angry.
alex stein
Because I don't want PowerPoint.
unidentified
I'm reflecting more about your characters and so much more about your character than anything related to it.
alex stein
I'm not a shill.
phil labonte
I'm willing to hate all of you.
Bring the temperature down here a little bit.
alex stein
No, I want to raise the temperature up because we're not posting.
No, no, no, I can't miss any anger.
phil labonte
No, because it's 9:30 on Friday.
I do give a damn.
alex stein
I'm passionate about this, and I don't want these people out here protecting Jeffrey Epstein.
I think it's a big deal.
phil labonte
She's not protecting Jeffrey Epstein.
alex stein
He didn't have any connection with Massad.
unidentified
If he didn't have a connection with Massachusetts, he didn't work for Mossad.
alex stein
Obviously, do you think Philip?
karys rhea
I think he probably had a lot of connections with that.
unidentified
But in terms of Jeffrey Epstein, the only person he was or the CIA.
phil labonte
If I understand correctly, he did not have a connection to Mossad or CIA.
He had connection to powerful, like wealthy people.
karys rhea
Now, whether or not that was Prime Minister of Israel.
libby emmons
Don't we get super chat?
karys rhea
Including the former prime minister.
alex stein
Which his best friend was at his house all the time.
libby emmons
I swear.
alex stein
Who's hanging out with the prime minister?
Who's hanging out with the prime minister of the country?
Hey, not just Joe Blow.
phil labonte
Get down.
unidentified
No, I just get so mad because you guys are just so thick.
phil labonte
It's like just because we don't agree with you, chill.
alex stein
You don't have to agree with me.
It's that she's saying that he's hanging out with the prime minister and you're looking at me like I'm crazy because I think that he might work for the government if he's hanging out with the prime minister.
You're the one gaslighting me.
I'm not the crazy person.
phil labonte
I'm not gaslighting anyone.
alex stein
You can't see the forest for the big tree in front of your face.
phil labonte
No, again, this is not gaslighting.
unidentified
This is straight up saying, okay, we don't see things the same way you do.
phil labonte
Generally, disagreement around this table is something that we take with taking stride.
This is a very normal thing for people to disagree.
karys rhea
Okay.
unidentified
We do not need to go ahead and start screaming at each other like that.
karys rhea
Oh, she gets to get certain people emotional.
alex stein
I just get emotional because you can't defend it.
Like, can you defend how Benjamin Netanyahu just lied and said when Tom Alexandrovich just got arrested for doing a pedophile thing in Las Vegas, that he wasn't actually arrested?
Do you think that's cool that he lied about that?
Protecting another pedophile?
karys rhea
I think the fact that you tie pedophiles to Israel and not a country.
alex stein
I didn't do that.
The pedophile that works for the cybersecurity division, he's the one that did it.
I'm not the one that diddled the kid.
He diddled the kid.
He happens to work directly to the family.
And do you think that's cool that Benjamin Netanyahu lied and said he wasn't arrested?
karys rhea
If Netanyahu lied about some pedophile, then I think that he should be accountable for that lie.
But without looking into some sort of accusation that you're leveling at BB Netanyahu, who I'm not even a fan of, like, I can't stand B.B. Netanyahu.
alex stein
Why are you not a fan of him?
karys rhea
And yet, well, not for the reasons you aren't.
alex stein
What do you don't even know the reasons I don't like him?
I don't like him because he bombs hospitals with people because you're trying to give aid.
karys rhea
Yeah, you don't.
Yeah, I mean, look, when it comes to Netanyahu, like, I know, I know the way that, like, the media frames Netanyahu because I've been privy to the way that they framed Trump.
And Netanyahu is the same type of figure internationally like Trump was.
And so I find myself having to defend this guy that I don't even like because I know that certain things that people are saying about him is not true.
But when it comes to the recent thing that just happened with the pedophile, I haven't actually cared enough to look into that, Alex.
I don't have an answer for you.
And if you're telling me that he lied about that, no, because I'm busy and I just happen to not have, like, checked the news that day.
But if it happens that you're right about that, then because you get so emotional about that topic, I wouldn't trust you.
With other stuff, I would.
But because this seems to be the thing.
alex stein
You're defending Jeffrey Epstein saying that he doesn't have any connection.
karys rhea
I don't think anybody thinks that I'm defending Jeffrey Epstein.
phil labonte
The idea that there is no room for disagreement, like, that is something that we don't do.
alex stein
No, we can disagree.
We can disagree 100%.
I'm just saying I'm allowed to get a little emotional about it because I feel like I'm getting gaslit.
jamie reed
It's fair if you— We have registered your emotions.
I really—I hear you.
I'm so sorry you're feeling so emotional about this.
alex stein
I wear my heart on my sleeve.
jamie reed
I know.
alex stein
What do you want to say, Jamie?
What do you think it fits in all this?
jamie reed
Oh, I don't—that's not my cup of tea.
alex stein
So you can't have an opinion on it?
karys rhea
I just wonder, like, why you're not so emotional about, like, Sudan or Yemen or something.
alex stein
Why the fuck do I give a shit about Sudan and Yemen?
I mean, I don't see them bombing hospitals on television.
karys rhea
No, what are you talking about?
There's literally, like, there's, like, 87,000 children that are, like, being starved right now.
alex stein
I guess the Palestine, they just are doing such a good marketing campaign that I just can't even pay attention to Sudan because my telegram feed— I think that's the truest thing that you've said this entire time about Israel.
jamie reed
Yeah.
karys rhea
Yeah, I think that's what it is because there's just not consistency there.
alex stein
Well, when you look at our politicians and 88 percent of the politicians that are currently in office are all being funded by AIPAC.
karys rhea
I think that you could see that it's a little bigger of a threat, AIPAC, than— It's funny that you talk about AIPAC, but you don't talk about the ones being funded by the Qatar Foundation, and you don't talk about the ones being funded— Listen, we can talk about Qatar.
—and you don't talk about the ones being funded by NIAC.
alex stein
I think you would have to be retarded if you would think that Qatar has more influence than Israel.
I think that you would be slow in the brain.
karys rhea
I don't think you—yeah, okay.
I think that actually— So how many Jewish colleges did you just— Actually, if you look at the—all you have to do is research it, and all you have to do is go one block— Oh, you're going to give me some information.
They funded some colleges, so now that they own all the colleges— No, you can't go a block in D.C. That's not tainted with Qatari money.
You know, Qatari bought the congressional baseball game.
alex stein
Okay, they donated to a baseball game, but— They didn't donate.
karys rhea
They literally have been playing the long game.
Qatar is the richest country in the world.
alex stein
Who has more influence on American politics, Israel or Qatar?
karys rhea
At this point in time, 100% Qatar.
alex stein
You are so stupid.
karys rhea
For Obama, Israel.
alex stein
You are literally stupid.
unidentified
Like, if you think Qatar— You just don't—it's so sad because you're giving in— Maybe you think Qatar has more influence on American politics?
karys rhea
I just had no idea.
jamie reed
Let me don't jump in for a minute.
Let me say something.
unidentified
You don't even have never even heard of the Qatar Foundation.
libby emmons
I don't think you're making a very good argument.
You're not sure.
karys rhea
Yes, you just don't know, Alex.
jamie reed
Oh, she's turning around.
karys rhea
Because people are so obsessed with APAC that that's all you hear.
Do you even know about NORPAC?
alex stein
Listen, when you look at the influence that AIPAC has, you can try to distract me from that influence.
karys rhea
So let's talk about APAC.
alex stein
They don't even meet Qatar.
karys rhea
They don't even meet the top 50 Israel.
unidentified
So in terms of spending, they spend more money than APAC.
karys rhea
Yes.
alex stein
Who's more powerful?
Israel or Qatar?
karys rhea
I don't know.
In politics?
unidentified
Yes.
libby emmons
Right now?
karys rhea
Qatar.
alex stein
Oh, my.
You think Qatar is more powerful?
unidentified
Yes.
karys rhea
And anybody who really studies this would know that.
The only reason that you don't is because you have a marketing.
Because everybody talks about APAC.
alex stein
Let's go to Switzerland.
You're going to have to agree to disagree.
phil labonte
Super chats.
People send messages.
karys rhea
I'm happy to hear from the viewers.
phil labonte
Well, that's fair, but normally at 9:40 on the last 20 minutes, we do super chats.
So let's go to super chats.
alex stein
Hopefully, we'll get some Jeffrey Epstein super chats.
All right.
What do we got for us, Serge?
Which one?
Pimp on a blimp cast IRL.
Let's go.
Let's close out this week with the madman.
Everyone, have a great three-day weekend.
Peace, dudes, dudettes, and various tards.
Thank you, Shane.
We love Shane Wilder.
Tim just started a family.
He's still running the company in the background.
When he comes back, he's back.
No, that's not what happened, R. Sergeant.
He's got hair transplants, and he's about to look like a freaking movie star when he comes back.
Okay, I think we saw some big super chats over on YouTube.
$2 super chat from Yoda.
There will be a hair reveal.
That will be tomorrow.
You guys can see that on Rumble and YouTube on the Timcast channel.
And what else do we get?
Oh, $10 right here.
Oh, is Destiny going to jail for CP?
I don't know.
What do you guys think about that?
Do you think Destiny's going to jail?
phil labonte
I don't know about jail for child porn.
He's a sex pest and he was sharing pictures of a 17-year-old, I believe, and he was sexting with a 17-year-old.
Now, this guy's 35 or something like that.
So, I mean, it's, you know, obviously it's some bad behavior.
Whether or not he will actually get prosecuted, I mean, that's up to the Florida state AG.
I don't know.
And I don't know if there's, I don't know what, what kind, I know that there is evidence, but I don't know if they're if the AG will actually pick it up or not.
alex stein
And I think that he's worried about the revenge aspect of it.
I don't know if he's worried about the age aspect of it because I think he shared another nude picture of somebody to a third party.
phil labonte
He's done it multiple times.
So there was a person that he shared nudes with or shared nudes of that.
I'm not sure if she gave them to him or if they were photos that he took.
alex stein
Well, he gave a mutual friend, I think.
phil labonte
Yeah, and he showed them to someone else.
And there's evidence that he was sexting, sending illicit messages, sexually oriented messages to a 17-year-old.
unidentified
To a different person.
phil labonte
To a different, yeah, totally different person.
So this is a pattern of behavior.
I mean, I think the state of Florida should look into it if it's a pattern of behavior, if this is kind of the stuff that he does.
But I don't know.
I can't say as to whether or not the state of Florida AG will.
alex stein
He's like the Teflon Dawn.
I think he'll get away with it.
All right, guys.
Unravel Guardian.
Longtime viewer, first-time chatter.
We need to emphasize taking back of language.
The left are not liberals.
They do not believe in freedom.
Illegals are not undocumented.
They are breaking the law.
phil labonte
I agree with you 100%.
Like, the left are not liberals.
I do think that that battle's been lost.
I don't think that you're going to be able to convince, and I think it's been lost since the 90s.
I think Rush Limbaugh did it.
I think that you're not going to be able to convince conservatives that they are actually liberals.
I don't think that you're going to be able to convince liberals that they are progressives.
And there are progressives out there that will swear up and down that what are called liberals are just conservatives.
The arguing over semantics will probably never end, and you're going to have to actually judge behavior.
So, if you're saying, oh, I, you know, I don't think that property rights are, you know, have take primacy.
I don't think that individual rights take primacy.
That's definitely an illiberal perspective.
But I think that you're going to see, still going to see a lot of people that would call themselves liberals say those type of things.
You have some.
jamie reed
Well, I just think the concept around language is so interesting.
But the thing from my advocacy line, from what I see, is that trans and other similar parallel issues have totally, like, to me, shaken up who's even in which party anymore.
Like, I think that we're undergoing this massive upheaval.
Basically, everybody I know are former Dems.
Like, we don't even, like, we're disaffected former Dems with nowhere to even go.
phil labonte
So, to that point, would you consider yourself like a MAGA person?
jamie reed
I don't personally, but there are absolutely a ton of people that I know because of trans issues and women's rights issues right now that are completely like lost.
And they do talk about MAGA.
So, I don't even know if we have, I don't know, I don't even know that we have two parties right now.
I think that it's all in flux.
Who would have thought that like the granola moms that didn't want like weird food dyes in their kids' tricks would be like MAGA now?
It's like all in flux.
karys rhea
It's a big tent.
alex stein
Well, yeah, I mean, I guess it is a big tent, but you do see like now, though, you know, to the topic we were just kind of getting so heated about, though, the right is kind of eating its own with the woke right stuff, you know, the pro-Israel, anti-Israel stuff.
So I feel like you might like to say it's kind of causing a lot of attention, I think.
jamie reed
Do you want there to be a big tent, though, over on your side?
alex stein
Of what?
Of the political party?
I guess kind of, but then you get it like, I don't know, it's so big.
We want a bunch of transgenders doing weird stuff.
So, I don't know.
The tent probably needs to say big, but not too big.
karys rhea
It's tough because you also have like all the Maha people, right?
You have all the like RFK people who are.
alex stein
He was on the Jeffrey Epstein's plan three or four times.
RFK was.
karys rhea
Yeah, okay.
But like, all these people were also like former liberals, right?
Turned MAGA.
So it is tough.
Like, you, you do have this really big tent, but at what point do you assert red lines when it comes to like actual conservative values, right?
jamie reed
One of the biggest conversations that is occurring right now, I will say, in the LGB is if we continue, do we continue to try to get the left and the Dems to shift on trans, or instead, do we pivot and focus to the conservatives and get you all to adjust?
I don't know if you're all not y'all.
unidentified
It's more like a Missouri y'all, but add MAGA conservative.
jamie reed
Yeah, but I mean, or do we shift and try to focus on MAGA conservatives just saying that marriage is off the table?
alex stein
You mean gay marriage?
karys rhea
Yeah.
alex stein
Well, I mean, it's something a lot of people are in favor of.
karys rhea
Shift to shift to getting MAGA to support gay marriage.
unidentified
Yeah.
libby emmons
Well, the problem is that the Obergefell ruling really opened up the, it really opened the, that's the Obergefella's marriage Supreme Court ruling.
karys rhea
And under Obama?
libby emmons
Yeah.
Was it under Obama?
I think so.
But yeah, the problem with it is that it really opened the door to a lot of crazy things.
Like in Somerville, polyamorous marriage, marriages are recognized, Somerville, Massachusetts.
And there's other places where this is happening as well, where, you know, essentially what we used to call bigamy or polygamy and say that's bad for women, you can't do that, now is being recognized as legal in some places because of the Obergefell ruling.
And I think that kind of thing is probably not great for children and also probably not great for, you know, women left into the states.
Well, it sort of is because anything is legal.
Like any kind of marriage is legal.
You can marry your pillow essentially because of Obergefell.
You know, so it opens the door to a lot.
Listen, I marched in favor of gay marriage when it was, you know, when that was a thing to do.
And I went out with my friends and did that.
And we marched against the DNC and we marched against the RNC and like whatever else.
karys rhea
No, but you're saying, but what if the Supreme, the Supreme Court made it legal?
libby emmons
The Supreme Court made it legal in all states.
karys rhea
Right.
libby emmons
So that marriage has to be recognized across all states.
karys rhea
So if you repeal that and you'd marry it, just like Roe v.
Wade and you put it in the states.
libby emmons
Well, that's a problem as well.
If you look at interracial marriage, if you look back at the loving decision, which was essential so that marriages could be legal across state lines, which of course it has to be.
So, but it's a very interesting situation.
And I think that it would be very difficult.
My point basically is that I think that it would be very difficult to get all the conservative world on board with gay marriage and on board with the Obergefell ruling because you already have people in the conservative Protestant realms saying that they want Obergefell to be repealed.
And you've had some politicians being like, yeah, I would support the repeal of Obergefell.
So I don't know if you could, I don't know if you could get it with that ruling.
It might have to be a different kind of ruling than that one to get it.
karys rhea
I had this gay roommate, my sophomore year of college in New York.
And I, at that point, had kind of just started flirting with my political identity.
I just, I didn't really know who I was at that point.
You know, coming from the Bay Area, I had assumed I was a Democrat, but a lot of progressive stuff didn't sit well with me.
But this roommate, I thought, was so interesting because she was a lesbian who was against gay marriage.
And her argument was that she basically was like, you know, I go and march in gay pride parades because I want to be acknowledged as like different and special because I am.
I'm like a like, and she's like, and so I want a different institution set up for gay people.
She's like, I don't want to be put in this like traditional religious construct of like man and women.
She's like, I want, she's like, as long as I have all the same rights that I would get in a traditional marriage, I don't need you to call it marriage because I don't want to like blend in with everybody else.
phil labonte
One of the things that queer activists, and I'm using the term as the, you know, politically queer, one of the thing that, one of the things that queer activists have, or an objection that they have, is that if you make marriage legal for gay people, for gay, lesbian, and queer people, and then they start doing the heteronormative thing just with another, a person of the same sex, you actually are killing queer people, they say.
karys rhea
I don't understand that.
phil labonte
So if you're politically queer, politically, like queer is a political stance.
It's a way of being as opposed to being heteronormative.
If you're a heteronormative person.
karys rhea
Oh, so it's what my, it's the, it's kind of like she would be trying to conform to this traditional construct.
phil labonte
And it makes it makes queer people invisible.
jamie reed
Jamie.
I think that queer as a concept is part of the same ideology that drove or drives Transport.
phil labonte
Absolutely, yes.
jamie reed
And so so much of that is about the destruction of things like nuclear families.
You look like you have like.
alex stein
No, because we're talking about gay marriage.
I have two dudes who want to go have a ceremony and fake marriage each other.
I mean, go ahead.
I guess it shouldn't be illegal, but like the fact that...
jamie reed
I don't think you and I are going to be good friends.
alex stein
Well, I'm just saying you guys can go wear two suits.
I'm going to laugh at two, you know, chicks or dicks or whatever kind of get married.
jamie reed
It is funny.
unidentified
What, okay, thank you.
alex stein
You know, the highest occurrence of headaches are actually women, and that's proof that dating, you know, lesbians, they can't even date each other.
So, like, the divorce rate in lesbians is so incredibly high.
How high is a divorce rate in lesbians?
unidentified
So, what I'm going to say is the highest epidemic.
jamie reed
So, what I'm going to say is this: the reason why marriage matters because people want to do a ceremony.
unidentified
So, because every girl's dream is to get married, no, it's not about financial, it's not about the suits, it's not about the cake, it's about it's literally all about the wedding.
jamie reed
No, what it is about is that for decades, if my partner was dying in a hospital room, I could not go in that room to be with them in their dying moment because I was not legally recognized as their significant other.
I think many gays and lesbians do not care about the cake or the suits or if you want to laugh at it.
All we are asking for is some level of that basic dignity that if our loved one is dying, we have the right to be with them in the room at the time.
alex stein
Well, I hear that example a lot.
I hear that example a lot.
And like, I guess we need gay marriage just so you can go in the hospital, even though they could designate.
jamie reed
It doesn't even have to be called marriage, regardless.
karys rhea
That's why I was going to ask you to get a lot of money.
unidentified
I know, and I agree.
alex stein
It's insurance, it's your partner.
You want the company's insurance to cover them too.
I get that.
I get why people would want those legal protections, but you could probably give those people legal protections without necessarily having to make them get married.
But honestly, I don't give a damn.
Two gays want to get married.
You guys want to, you know, scissor on the damn, you know, down the aisle.
I don't care.
But I can tell everybody once you get through a lot of these super chats.
I got a text from Sean.
So, Artemis, we love you, Alex.
Clinton Kelsey, you guys rule.
Let's try to get through a bunch of Eric Shaver.
Oh, they want Nick Funtes to guest host.
Well, that would get a lot of views.
Nice showstein, Lady Katie.
That was Artemis again.
Let's see what other ones we got.
We can run through.
Oh, they want to talk about the USS Liberty.
Okay, well, that's a topic for another day.
All right.
Any other super chats that I missed, Serge, that I should.
Oh, I'm here we go from Said Yanay.
I don't know how to pronounce that.
I moved recently to a new city, and within a week, I knew my way around.
We have been here for six months now.
My wife, who drives more than me, still can't get around.
I don't use GPS.
She does.
Oh, good for you.
You know how to get around.
Congratulations, buddy.
Nobody gives a damn, but we are appreciative of the $10.
Okay.
What is this?
Elon Musk should be able to buy an F-22.
Maybe, I guess.
Let's see.
Is there something about Puff Daddy down there that I saw?
All right.
Well, guys, what a show.
I think Libby over here is having a panic attack.
She hasn't said five words since I got mad at Cariss.
Karis, how do I say that?
unidentified
Spit Karis.
jamie reed
She was just making sure you didn't spit and hurt her.
alex stein
No, Libby doesn't like it.
See, this is the thing.
When you're an alpha male like me, when you're a top dog like me, you know, a lot of women, they cower because I got a lot of power.
I'm the pimp on a blimp.
AOC was a victim of mine.
You know, me just talking to a woman directly, it can make them, you know, get a little dry.
But I'll tell you this much.
I get most of them wet.
So, all right, guys, I'm primetime 99, Alex sign.
I'm the pimp on a blimp.
Don't act like Jamie.
You're not vibing.
You know you're vibing.
You know that, you know, you like the pimp.
Look at that smile.
Show her a smile.
Jamie, you're smile.
Even though you can't get gay married, we can get regular married.
We can get regular married.
jamie reed
How about what I like is I like it when people have a personality and have so much bigger.
alex stein
I have a personality disorder.
I have personality disorder.
Yeah.
jamie reed
That very well could be.
alex stein
So that might not be a good thing.
Okay, let's go around the horn.
Libby, where can people find you and support you?
libby emmons
You can find me on Twitter at LibbyEmmons and at thepostmillennial.com.
Also, you can check out what we're doing at humanevents.com.
I would be most grateful if you signed up for my newsletter, which you can do at thepostmillennial.com/slash Libby.
unidentified
Thanks.
karys rhea
Karis?
You can also find me on X. My handle is just my last name and then my first name.
So at Raya Karis.
And if you want to learn about all the lies that you've been told about Israel and Jews, then you can sign up for my newsletter.
DM me.
libby emmons
What's your newsletter?
karys rhea
Um, I just send out an email on my couch with some articles every day.
libby emmons
So, how do people sign up for it?
karys rhea
They can just send me a message with their email on Twitter.
alex stein
At Ray at Karis extra exclusive, I like that.
Well, guys, definitely sign up.
Jamie, you've been great.
Where can people find you and support you?
jamie reed
I am at Jamie Whistle because I am a legally recognized whistleblower.
And I also run an organization, co-direct it with another lesbian.
unidentified
I love lesbians.
alex stein
Are you kidding?
I'm not an anti-lesbian.
I'm anti-gays sometimes.
jamie reed
Some of these guys are called the LGB Courage Coalition.
We are on X, we are on Facebook.
We have a sub stack.
alex stein
I'm going to go report the page.
Go and report those pages right now.
That's a joke.
Do not do that.
I would say I'm kidding.
And I do love lesbians.
Sorry.
jamie reed
Subscribe.
And we are a huge advocacy organization.
So if you're looking to help get some of these laws changed so that kids pediatrically cannot be medically transitioned, we would be an organization to support.
alex stein
Wait, real quick, though.
So you are the turf that we're talking about earlier.
I mean, you are trans-exclusionary radical feminists.
jamie reed
I'm actually not a radical feminist.
unidentified
Okay.
jamie reed
So that is where.
alex stein
Is that possible to be a lesbian and not be a feminist?
jamie reed
I didn't think that's a good idea.
Not a radical feminist.
Not a radical.
alex stein
Not radical.
Okay.
So you're just a TEF.
karys rhea
But I also think that word doesn't like is JK Rowling really a radical feminist?
But people said she was.
alex stein
You would say that.
libby emmons
She is because she's also pro-abortion.
karys rhea
Oh, okay.
libby emmons
So to be a radical feminist, it includes pro-abortion.
jamie reed
And I'm raising five points.
libby emmons
So it really is radical liberation.
unidentified
Yeah.
libby emmons
No, it's like it's basically progressive, but you don't think dudes are girls.
karys rhea
Okay.
alex stein
That's their own.
libby emmons
And it's pretty far left.
karys rhea
Like the second left.
alex stein
Yeah.
Like there's, yeah, like they just don't like, like, it's like, why?
And it makes sense.
Why wouldn't a lesbian not want to compete against a biological male in sports?
You know what I mean?
So that's obviously.
unidentified
Just any woman might not any woman, but I'm saying specifically lesbian.
Biological men.
alex stein
Well, lesbian, at least with a guy, I could kind of seduce one of the players, maybe I was with, like if I was Leah Thomas, but if they're a lesbian, then they have no sexual interest in me.
So then I got no redeeming quality.
So you're extra fucked up.
unidentified
Okay.
alex stein
All right.
Phil, what do you got for us, Brady?
phil labonte
I am Phil That Remains on Twix.
The band is all that remains.
You can check us out on Apple Music, Amazon Music, Spotify, Pandora, Deezer, and YouTube.
Don't forget, the left lane is for crime.
There will be clips all weekend.
And we will not be here on Monday because it's Labor Day.
So we will see you guys all on Tuesday, I believe.
alex stein
And Serge, what do you got going on?
Thank you.
You crushed it tonight, Serge.
You were on me a couple of times about my mic discipline, and I really appreciate the professionalism that you showed tonight.
I didn't show the exact same myself.
So I want to apologize to some of the ladies here.
And I'm not you, Karis.
But no, I'm kidding.
I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings.
And but yeah, Serge, you want to shout out anything before we go?
unidentified
Yeah, nah.
phil labonte
Yeah, don't shout out.
alex stein
Get on your Twitter.
Go on your Twitter.
Dude, your Twitter's unhinged.
Everybody needs to do that.
He is very outspoken on there.
Some of his takes, I'm always kind of, I'm worried he might lose his account.
So it's definitely some spicy stuff if you guys are interested in that.
And that's been our show.
Once again, tomorrow, it's going to be huge.
I think it's Tim's biggest skate event that they've had here so far, the Boonies HQ skate off.
I think that's what it's technically called, but it will be a skate competition that you can watch on YouTube and Rumble.
Please go and support Casper Coffee.
Please support Tim.
You know, it's hard being independent like this.
You know, I know he works for Rumble, but he didn't get that Daily Wire money.
He needs some of your money.
So thank you for all the people that gave super chats tonight.
I know we were not able to get through all of them, but some of you big ballers, we appreciate that greatly.
I know Serge does.
And I guess with all that being said, did I forget anything?
Did I shout out anything?
Is that okay?
And this week has been an emotional week.
I'll say that.
There's been a lot of drama.
Mike Benz has hosted.
Jack's hosted.
Obviously, Phil's been here all week.
And Tim is going to come back and he's going to be the sexiest he's ever been.
And I want all the ladies, I know he is in a loving relationship, but if you guys could help his self-esteem and be very complimentary of him, Jamie, I know you're a lesbian, but do you mind sending him a DM saying that his hair looks good?
Because if it comes from a lesbian, he's going to appreciate that more.
And will you do the same, Libby?
Will you compliment his new hair plugs?
unidentified
Sure.
alex stein
It's like pulling teeth with some of these ladies.
All we want is a little compliment, maybe dinner, and maybe just shut your mouth after 8 p.m.
You know what I mean?
And these ladies never want to comply.
But, you know, compliance is what silence is compliance.
So speaking.
libby emmons
I complained that I wasn't talking.
alex stein
Oh, I love complaining.
No, I'm a hypocrite.
That's the one thing you're going to learn about me.
I'm a hypocrite.
I complain.
Alex.
unidentified
Proud hypocrite.
phil labonte
All got to go back.
alex stein
No, the big booty Latinas can say, if you're a nine, you're fine.
I will radicalize Phil to this.
But with all that being said, thank you guys so much for watching.
Make sure to tune in next week.
They're off Monday, but they will be back Tuesday.
Tim is going to be back in full effect with his Fabio Locks, and Jamie's going to be sending him nude pics.
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