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Trump To Deploy National Guard To Chicago, Baltimore, Democrats Call To Resist | Timcast IRL

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tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Donald Trump is alive?
		Wow.
		While I'd been out, I had heard over and over again from liberals that Trump had died.
		It was trending and they said, where is he?
		They were posting pictures of him claiming he was sick and he's completely fine.
		Everything looks normal and I'm going to give you guys the truth.
		It was Labor Day weekend.
		That's it.
		Trump was probably just like, it's Labor Day, I'm gonna hang out with my family.
		And then because without Trump, they have nothing to say.
		They have no political ideology.
		They have no goals other than Trump is bad.
		The only thing they could muster up to get clicks on the internet was that Trump must be dead, otherwise where would he go?
		They can't live without him.
		Okay, well, that was all fake news and it was hilarious.
		But the big news is that Trump has announced he was asked and he says he's going to be sending in feds or the National Guard specifically is what he was asked about into Chicago and Baltimore.
		And the governor of Illinois and the mayor are losing their minds.
		I, as you all know, I'm from the south side of Chicago and I say, please, Trump, thank you, get it done.
		Because no young person in this country should have to grow up in a city where their friends witness corpses being dragged through alleys, where they get randomly shot at and where their friends are forced to join gangs by murdering people, but that's Chicago and we can talk about it.
		Now, other than that, there's a bunch of other really big news.
		Thirty three some odd thousand Epstein files have been released and we don't know exactly what's in them yet because they just got dropped, but a lot of people are saying, yeah, been there, done that.
		Nothing new is in these documents.
		So we're going to talk about that and more.
		And yes, ladies and gentlemen, I have have returned.
		For those who are wondering where I was, it's funny, all the conspiracy theories.
		The most offensive ones are that I was on vacation.
		That was the most offensive because as I explained to my friends, my ego is the size of this building and being unable to talk for three weeks, I was the embodiment of that meme of the kid in the school shaking with veins popping out of his skull.
		No, I over the past several weeks, as I actually had explained on the show when I was getting sick, I'm like, man, I'm getting sick and I keep working and I wouldn't stop.
		And so it got worse and worse until I got so sick I ended up in the ER and my throat was extremely swollen with viral pharyngitis, which after about a week abated and then my throat was torn.
		was tore up and I couldn't really talk without mass, like serious discomfort.
		They gave me methylpredinicillone, which I hated and didn't want to take, and they said take ibuprofen.
		And I'm like, I can't do this.
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		So I worked on other things, but here we are.
		I have returned.
		Let's get to the news.
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		Present yourself.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Tim, great to be with you, man.
		Josh Hammer here.
		First time here in the studio.
		So it's a really pleasure in town for NatCon, the National Good Surgeryism Conference, taking over, taking part over in DC.
		It's off to a great start.
		I'm speaking tomorrow morning, but for now, Tim, just trying to crush these next couple of hours with you, my friend.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right on, thanks for hanging out.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Producer Tate's hanging out.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		What's up guys?
		Tate Brown here.
		I'm not doing a lot of imitation with the suit.
		I was at NatCon as well.
		So we're doing some coverage on Timcast News.
		If you want to see what's going on over there, obviously Josh will be speaking tomorrow.
		So if we're lucky, maybe we'll get an interview.
		I don't know.
		We'll see what happens, but yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Hello, everyone.
		My name is Philip Bonti.
		I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains.
		I'm an anti communist and a counter revolutionary.
		Let's get into it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Here's a story from Reuters, my friends.
		We are going in.
		Trump to send National Guard troops to Chicago, and I say, thank you, mister President.
		President Donald Trump said on Tuesday he would deploy National Guard troops to fight crime in Chicago, an extraordinary effort to militarize the country's third largest city that was likely to trigger a legal battle with local officials.
		We're going in.
		I didn't say when, but we're going in, Trump told reporters at the White House.
		Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson swiftly condemned the action.
		Quote, he just wants his own secret police force that will do publicity stunts whenever his poll number numbers are sinking, whenever his job report shows a stagnating economy, whenever he needs another distraction from his failures.
		Hours earlier, a federal judge blocked Trump's at Trump, the Trump admin from using military to fight crime in California, a ruling that does not apply to other states, but the judge said that Trump's declared desire to send troops to Chicago and other cities provided support for his ruling.
		Now we also have this from the AP Trump says he will order federal intervention in Chicago and Baltimore despite local opposition.
		Now this is what I just I just can't stand.
		Okay, local opposition.
		What does that really mean?
		Well, I grew up in Chicago.
		I grew up on the south side of Chicago.
		My friends and I have witnessed gang violence.
		I remember this so vividly, my friend talking to me on the phone saying, wait, hold on.
		Dude, there's two people dragging a corpse through the alley right now.
		The next day on the news, dead body found in a dumpster.
		And we were like, wow, the hot dog shop one block away from where I grew up had bulletproof windows with bullet holes in them from being shot at.
		And it's kind of crazy because you grow up like that and you're like, this is just the way things are, I guess.
		And then you get older and you realize it's actually not and it doesn't need to be that way.
		But the funny thing about the crime in Chicago and the gang violence and all that stuff is that they also have police corruption.
		One of my favorite stories out of Chicago was a meter made.
		There's another story where a meter maid gave a parking ticket to a police because he parked illegally, because he thought he could.
		And the police came out of the bar where he was drinking, grabbed her by the throat and slammed her against the wall.
		There's also another story where a bunch of police beat the crap out of a bartender.
		So you have a state where a bunch of the governors went to prison, where the police have been accused of operating what are called black sites, where they arrest people and detain them for days on end and torture them.
		You have the famous stories out of Chicago where, what was that guy's name?
		He would kettle prod people.
		You know what I'm talking about?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		No, I have no idea who that guy was.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Man, what's that guy?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I always forget that guy's name.
unidentified		Cop.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Chicago police.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, electrocuted people.
		Everybody knows that story.
		That was Chicago, right?
		What is this?
		You know what I got to do?
		I got to ask the robot.
		Who was the cop?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		John Berg.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		In the 80s.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is it Burge?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Berg, B-U-R-G-E.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that was Chicago, right?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
		So we know all about it.
		Man, talk about a corrupt city.
		And so when Donald Trump is like, man, this is not how things should be, I'm like, that's great, fantastic.
		I got to tell you, where I grew up, if we had National Guard, It would have been fantastic.
		do?
		My friends and I rode around on our skateboards to the park and that's about it.
		That's all we did.
		And the gangbangers shot at each other and we get robbed.ed and things like that and the police would never do anything about it.
		So personally, I think it's fantastic.
		However, you take a look at the leadership and there's there's something to be said for I left.
		A lot of people would say Timmy should have stayed to fight to make your city better.
		But, you know, my attitude was kind of like that's like asking someone to knock down a skyscraper with a ball peen hammer.
		Just not much I can do about it.
		Now Donald Trump, the president sending in the troops, I think would be great.
		And I think crime will get cut in half or better.
		But for political reasons, anything Trump does ever is wrong.
		And to give you an example, for some reason the left defended Cracker Barrel.
		I don't know why.
		It's just a miserable decision.
		But outside of that, what do you guys think?
		Should we send the troops 19?
		What do we have?
		17 other cities?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		The policing works, right?
		If you have police on the street, it disincentivizes people to commit crimes.
		And then you have less crime in your city.
		It's working in DC.
		It will likely work in other cities, whether or not.
		There will be constitutional, you know, fights on the grounds of constitutionality, probably.
		But I mean, if the people want it, then I think that Trump will actually be able to do it.
		We've talked about this a little bit before.
		If you've got popular support, the president has great leeway.
		If you don't have popular support, then the president, it doesn't matter if the president's doing something legal or not, he'll get so much pushback.
		He'll be almost, he'll almost have to stop doing this.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is like, have you guys seen Landman?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I know what it is.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Billy Bob, I have to.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That show's great.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		I've heard that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So awesome.
		Billy Bob's fantastic.
		Maybe not in the real, I don't know his politics, but in the show, he's good.
		And they have these oil fields where cartels are basically, you know, running through this land.
		And so they go to the government.
		They say, hey, look, do some training drills here.
		We don't actually want the milit military to enforce the law or go after the cartels, but just by being there, you deter them.
		This is what Trump is talking about the National Guard.
		These guys, National Guard, they're not going to arrest people.
		They're not going to issue tickets.
		They're literally going to stand there, probably staring at the wall.
		But gang bangers are going to have a real hard time committing crimes in the presence of armed National Guard.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so two things.
		Well, so, you know, one is your point is actually really well taken, which is it was actually a native son of Illinois.
		I mean, it was Lincoln himself who famously said, I'm paraphrasing here, I'm probably going to butcher it, but with public opinion, anything is possible without public opinion, you know, nothing will work.
		So, I mean, this is it.
		I mean, this is what I call the art of the 8020 issue for Donald Trump.
		is a genius.
		He is a master at putting Democrats, the left, you know, in this case, you know, Mayor Johnson who's who's such a, you know, far left loom bag that, you know, that he makes Lori Lightfoot look like a freaking moderate.
		I mean, I didn't think that was even possible, but but this guy, Brendan Johnson somehow finds a way to do it, you know, whether, I mean, you know, forcing him and JB Pritzker to oppose sending in some sort of federal help.
		I mean, just for context, Chicago's murder rate is twenty two murders per 100,000 people.
		So New York City right now is about five.
		So literally less than 25 percent to that.
		Washington, DC is actually not a whole lot h lot higher than New York City, believe it or not.
		So Chicago is the bloodiest American city, bar none.
		I lived there for a few years, Tim.
		I went to law school there.
		I know you, I know you're a native of some Chicago.
		It's gotten a hell of a lot worse, actually, just since I graduated.
		I graduated law school there in 2016, so that's nine years ago now.
		I've been back a handful of times since then.
		My now wife, when we were dating, she was then my girlfriend, I took her to Chicago for the very first time.
		She had her purse stolen in broad daylight in Streeterville.
		Streeterville.
		This is like a nice neighborhood downtown.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But just so you understand, that's where the crime happens.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Always.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Look, to be honest, a guy from my neighborhood on the south side is going to be robbing me.
unidentified		It's not gonna be Rob and me.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We're both poor.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, we're gonna go to Streetville, dude.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So, you know, it's the wealthier areas where people show up and do the muggings.
		And because in these, like, up at-neighborhoods, these wealthy liberals either are gonna pull the, oh, you poor person, you just don't know better.
		Or they're gonna be like, I'm so scared.
		You don't want to go to a white working class area in Chicago, like, you know, on the South Side near, like, Sox Park or whatever, and mess around with those Irish dudes.
		Let me tell you, man, during the no NATO protests in 2012, all these leftists were marching through Chicago and South Side Irish, when they started marching through the neighborhood of these white working class people.
		They beat the crap out of the antifa guys and the leftists were like they were really confused as to why white working class Chicagoans in the South Side were beating the crap out of them, but they were.
		So that's why they typically stay out of these neighborhoods.
		But look, gangbangers don't rob other gangbangers in their own neighborhoods.
		They go to they go to wealthier areas.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think like Trump, Trump's tapping into something that a lot of Americans feel, which is they're really frustrated of being pushed out to the suburbs and not having access to like 80 percent of their city.
		Like I grew up in Memphis.
		I grew up in like a leafy suburb.
		So it's fine super depressing because you look around the rest of the developed world or you look at places like Tokyo and you can live wherever you want.
		If you're a young person, you have access to cheap housing where, like I said, the United States, yeah, more than, more than, at least more than half of your city is going to be completely unbeatable.
		I'm at Trump's tapping into that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, it's going to be interesting.
		I'm curious how much of what Trump is doing actually has to do with population decline.
		So if you think about what happened to Detroit when this is, this is not necessarily population decline.
		Detroit lost residents because industry had left.
		But then you see poverty, crime, and other problems.
		Another problem starts to emerge.
		I'm wondering how much of what Trump is doing with sending the National Guard is to try and create a base, a state, like a foundation of stability, because in the next ten years, it is going to get increasingly worse with population decline and infrastructure collapse due to a lack of a labor market, human capital.
		Yeah, exactly, exactly.
		So the large, one of the largest consumer bases, the boomers are dying.
		They're now at the mortality cliff.
		Gen Alpha's tiny and Gen Z can't work.
		You saw that you saw that report that said Gen Z brings their parents with them to job interviews.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Unreal.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, right.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		I did see that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Tate brought both his moms.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		you're very hospitable, which I respect.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That's really good.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Both of you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		So if the expectation is that cities are going to get worse than they are now, I'm wondering if Trump and his admin are looking at this.
		I mean, I'd have to say that with someone like Steven Miller, that guy's smart and he knows with the immigration stuff we're doing, he's looking at demographic numbers.
		I guarantee you that Trump admin knows full well.
		You can't simultaneously have low fertility and no immigration.
		Immigration isn't a solution, by the way.
		It's a it's abandoned and a bullet wound.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And so they're saying we can't keep doing that.
		They also realize we have a fertility cr crisis twenty years ago.
		So I think they're looking at this and there's something they're preparing for.
		If they're not, we're cooked.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I mean, the the fact that that there is going to be such a problem with, like we said, human capital, like that's a really big issue.
		And, and if people don't have a positive outlook on not only their communities, but also law enforcement in general, you're going to have significantly fewer police officers.
		I mean, I it's likely not, I don't know if it's likely, but I wouldn't be surprised if big cities in the future kind of become those dystopias from sci-fi movies from the eighties where you need to have to have a really militarized police force actually patrolling the streets and just to keep the population safe or keep them kind of subdued.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think 2030 is going to be wild.
		And for about five years, it's going to be nuts in this country.
		So we've got the fourth turning, Strasshow Generational Theory.
		This is bothering me.
		You want to rotate that that way?
		No, other way.
unidentified		Oh.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm just getting my OCD on.
		Strasshow Generational Theory predicts that 2028 is supposedosed to be the year of the great crisis.
		So as the story goes, every 80 years there is a turning, a fourth turning.
		So 80 years ago, of course, you know, what did we have?
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		World War two.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The world wars.
		I mean, some people make the argument that they were functionally the same wars because they like World War two was the result of World War one.
		80 years before that?
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Civil War?
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		No.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		80 years before that?
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Revolutionary War.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Indeed.
		And actually, you can keep going.
		Most of us don't track what happened 80 years before the American Revolution because it's pre-American history.
		It's sort of, it's like colonial history, but there actually was a great crisis and it actually bifurcatedates into the UK as well because we had a shared culture and society.
		So the prediction is something is going to happen here.
		I'm looking at everything that's going on right now.
		We've got actual fertility right now.
		Some have estimated, and maybe this is conspiratorial lunacy, 0.3.
		When you hear that fertility is at 1.6 or whatever, they're including older people who stopped having kids but had kids.
		So they're asking people, how many kids have you had?
		How many, you know?
		And the fertility rate includes people who are now exiting childbearing years.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		So what does the 0.3 include then?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Young people.
		So you're supposed to, it's supposed to be 20-year-olds, people in their 20s having kids.
		And there's some estimates that say Gen Z fertility is at like 0.3.
		And some estimate it may be 0.8.
		And that makes complete sense, if you ask me.
		But I'll tell you this.
		There was a really funny meme I saw.
		And it was a 4chan meme where someone said, hey, my grandpa gave me his PS1.
		Does anybody have any recommendations for games?
		The first response is, this has to be RageBait.
		And they said, my grandfather is 58 years old.
		He got the PlayStation 1 when he was 28., my dad was 8 years old.
		My dad had me at 20.
		I'm 18.
		But see, the millennials and Gen Z don't have kids.
		So they're like, no way your grandpa had a PS one.
		It's like, dude, he's 60.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Well, the interesting thing with the Gen Z millennials not having kids is there it's actually really important when you're looking at TFRs.
		There was a Stephen Shaw, he's like a demographic expert and he broke down, there's actually a difference between total maternity rate and children per mother.
		So children per mother tracks obviously the average amount of children that a mother has, a mother meaning someone's had a kid before and then the total maternity, total maternal rate and the TMRs dropped.
		So like the amount of women that that are having children is completely down, but the amount of mothers that have had children is consistent.
		So women are still having two to three children, but there's not as many mothers.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		There's fewer children.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		There's fewer mothers.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		When you take into account the fact that there's fewer people in general.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		But when they decide to have a child, they still have two to three.
		So it's not that they're having less children in general, if that makes sense.
		It's that there's just fewer people deciding.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		The crisis is marriage, essentially.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		The crisis actually starts earlier.
		It starts before.
		It's like, yeah, once they decide to have a child, they're going to have two to three still.
		That's perfectly fine.
		That mechanism is still working.
		And I think this is why stuff like cleaning up cities is because nihilism is just so pervasive that people just don't want to have because there's no not possible.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's a math problem.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If you need, there's various estimates of what the fertility rate needs to be to sustain a civilization, and it's at least replacement, but it's actually a little bit higher than two.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		2.1 is what I hear usually.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And the reason is because sometimes babies die and people don't make it to adulthood.
		So you need a little bit higher than normal.
		When you are below that, and I believe we're currently at 1.6, if you're tracking young people who are supposed to be having kids, I've heard estimates from 0.8 to 0.3, and I don't really know for sure because Gen Z includes people who should not be having kids.
		Gen Z includes teenagers who we don't expect to have children.
		You need it, it's exponential.
		If you have less than two kids, your population shrinks.
		Then, to get back to your functioning human capital size required to maintain the infrastructure of the civilization, you need twice as much.
		This means that Gen Z needs to have four kids to fix the damage of millennials and Gen Xers, which they're not going to do and they're not doing, which means the prediction is the boomers are at the mortality cliff.
		They're going to start dying and faster and faster.
		The oldest boomers are seventy nine, that is mortality.
		Within the next five years, we expect there to be a massive, we call it the mortality cliff.
		It's when boomers are going to die in large numbers.
		And within five to 10 years, there should be about 20 million boomers left from 65 million.
		So it's a massive drop off in the consumer market.
		Though these individuals normally would be replaced by the next generation at bare minimum, they're not.
		This means you're not going to be able to buy strawberries at your grocery store.
		Your grocery stores are probably going to go out of business.
		You will have to drive 50 miles to find standard goods, and there's going to be huge lines for it.
		This is going to create a snowball effect, which creates a massive depression.
		it's going to take several years to climb out of that depression once people start rebuilding the infrastructure but that's why i think uh to go back to the main point, when we're looking at what Trump is doing, I have to assume that his administration is taking into consideration the known fertility crisis alongside the mass deportations.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, they certainly have to take account for it.
		And like immigration, it can't even, it won't even be there forever as a band-aid because even across the third world now, their fertility is crashing.
		Like India is now below replacement over the last three years, they've dropped below replacement.
		So all these like complex demographic theories on birth rates has like all gone out the window when it went below replacement.
		It's like, oh, it's nothing.
		Oh, it's something completely different.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Now even these sub-Saharan African countries that were literally averaging four, five, six children.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		They're now, I mean, I'm speaking in very broad terms here, but they're down to like three, four, sometimes even two point something now.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		So they only went from fourteen to seven in like eight years.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
		So this is a global trend.
		I mean, it's it's it's no longer just a first world highly developed society trend.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and to that point, like, even if you just import people, like, people aren't COGS, right?
		People can't just be like, oh, well, we'll just get more people in here.
		And the people that will come will be able to do the jobs that we need them to do.
		Even the Democrats know this.
		They continuously say, oh,, oh, well, who's going to pick the fruit?
		Who's going to do the medieval labor?
		That's not really what you want immigration for, if you want immigration at all, right?
		Like the point, like when people talk about the United States being pro immigration, the idea that they're generally trying to convey, or at least the argument they're trying to make to people is, we want to get the best and brightest.
		We want to get the people that really excel.
		We want the smartest people in the world to come to the US.
		But that's not what's happening.
		And it hasn't been happening for a long time.
		Like there are people that come that are smart, sure.
		But the vast majority of the people that are coming to the United States, the immigrants, whether they be illegal or H one B visas, they're not coming specialized.
		They're not some kind of super smart group of people.
		They're just average people from a different country.
		And if average, some, many times they're below average, you know?
		So that's not something that we want to encourage in the United States.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So the estimate is 0.6.
unidentified		Wow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So I just, I just, I asked ChetGPT, take it for what it's worth.
		It's a, this thing's lying all the time.
		But I asked it to calculate for, for Gen Z women who, so it estimates when they do the TFR, the total fertility rate, they do it in age brackets.
		They do include teenage pregnancy, but I'm not going to include that personally because it's not something we're actually actively trying to encourage.
		Except for later teenagers, maybe.
		Because that was normal for a while.
		But going by the ages of nineteen to twenty seven, it's 0.6.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah.
		Troubling stuff.
		Look, I mean, the other thing about, you know, immigration, I mean, let's kind of not miss the forest for the trees here.
		I mean, it's a very simple point, but I think it's a pretty important point, which is, I mean, you can't immigrate yourself out of a fertility crisis for the very simple reason that at some point you cease to be a nation, right?
		I mean, this is kind of just kind of politics one on one.
		I mean, I'm in town to speak at the National Conservative Conference.
		You know, our whole movement is about what is the nation?
		I mean, how does a nation preserve itself there?
		I mean at some point if you're literally just actually replacing or attempting to replace an entire generation with people who are not – neither of your culture nor have a discernible identifiable culture to actually assimilate into.
unidentified		I mean … I just – I got to let you know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You're not going to replace your petroleum engineers with Honduran farmers.
unidentified		Yeah.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		No, of course not.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Of course not.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And that's what they've been trying to do and that's why it doesn't work.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So what you end up with is an economy has varying degrees of skill requirements.
		You need low-skilled labor but too much and everybody suffers.
		Animal populations, when they reach their – their – their – their – their – their – the greatest total amount per region.
		They all starve.
		They all suffer because they're all getting just enough food to survive to keep the population where it is.
		So if you flood the country with low skilled labor, everybody's underemployed and struggling to get by, and then you create a buckling welfare system.
		You actually need a band of small amounts of high skilled labor, a lot of mid, medium labor.
		It's a bell curve basically.
		And what the Democrats have been trying to do for the past several, uh, past two decades since the financial collapse is just bring in Haitians and Honduran farmers.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, that'll accelerate your collapse.
unidentified		Yeah.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's even the Republican Party, like, I mean, Bernie famously said like open bord open borders is a Koch brothers proposal because it's like it's the GDP brain that seems to be pernicious on the not the right but the Republican Party historically because it's like, yeah, of course, because GDP is just a calculation of the amount of economic activity in your country.
		So when you flood the country with, yeah, Hondurans, they're going to be spending money.
		And if you just keep pouring them in, yeah, people are going to spend more money, the GDP will go up.
		But GDP is not a way to calculate prosperity and calculate my children's well being.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Combine the immigration crisis and now the mass deportations with Gen Z bringing their parents to job interviews.
		I'm sorry.
		The luxuries you know today will be gone.
		And that's none of this political stuff scares me.
		Donald Trump saying send the troops.
		I'm like, whatever.
		Donald Trump saying we're going to DOJ investigate this person.
		The Democrats are screaming fascism.
unidentified		Shut up.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		None of that worries me.
		The crazy person who believes that I stole his spoons and he's hunting me down, that doesn't scare me.
		It looks like high security guards.
		The tsunami that is approaching us in the next several years is, it's not just about population.
		It's about skill and culture.
		Our culture is fragmented.
		It's fracturing.
		It's falling apart.
		Fertility is on the, on the decline that we're not going to have the labor we need.
		We're not going to have the skills we need.
		to bring it all back.
		I wonder if the idea of deploying the National Guard is happening now, not because crime is a problem, but because Trump knows you're going to need what we would what we would call continuity coordination.
		So this is Presidential Directive 51.
		Are you guys familiar with this?
unidentified		No.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They made a video game about it.
		It's called The Division.
		George W. Bush signed an executive order called National Security Directive 51.
		National Security Presidential Directive 51 is what it's called.
		It gives the president the authority to erase the U.S. government and create a new enduring constitutional government.
		They call it., and appoint a national continuity coordinator.
		The idea is in the event of catastrophic death, economic collapse or otherwise, the U.S. government must persist.
		And so no, this directive has never been tested in the courts.
		It's never been done.
		But hypothetically, any president has the authority to say, based on a substantial loss of life anywhere in the world, we are effectively erasing the three branch government, creating a one branch government and assigning a court, a continuity coordinator to control all United States jurisdiction.
		The idea behind it, whether you support it or not, I don't care.
		The, bow me and say it's bad.
		Sure.
		My point is the federal government has long known in the event of political, governmental or economic crises and collapse, you need continuity throughout the entire contiguous United States.
		So when I see a story, granted, I'm sick over the past three weeks, I get to talk about it now, saying they want to deploy to nineteen cities National Guard, that sounds more to me like governmental contingencies than any kind of crime stopping.
		Maybe I'm just crazy, but when I look at what's been going on, I'd have to imagine the US government, the Trump administration, knows what's going to happen in the next several years when you combine fertility crisis along with the immigration crisis.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think it could, I mean, or civil war.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, I think a lot of it it is just the government seeing how El Salvador has handled their problems and they're like, oh, we can just reciprocate that, replicate that United States and get a similar result.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's more or less where I am.
		I mean, I think a lot of what you're saying, Tim, makes sense, but I mean, law and order, crime, this is just a politically winning issue for Donald Trump.
		I mean, what, what, what, what, what Democrats have to say on these issues, I mean, look at Ma'am Dani in New York City.
		I mean, this, this nut job running for mayor of Minneapolis, I mean, all of them down to a T. I mean, is there a single, is there a single major city in America that has been run by Democratic mayors for the past 40, 50 years that has that is not exponentially worse off today than it was 50 years ago?
		I can't think of a single one.
		I mean, Baltimore, Detroit, Philadelphia, Saint Louis, Memphis, I mean, like literally, like down to the T, every single one is criminal, you know, violent crime, property crime, drug added, you know, illegal alien overrun, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
		So, I mean, he sees a slam dunk of a winning issue.
		I mean, look, the other thing is, I mean, looking at it from a historical American perspective there, you know, these battles between the federal government and the states, you know, federalism battles, their local control versus federal government control.
		I mean, these go back, you know, to all the way to to to the beginning of the Republic, obviously.
		And, you know, Donald Trump is kind of like a strong government guy.
		So, I mean, I'm not surprised at all that he's doing this.
		I mean, he's, it's going to get legally tested.
		You know, the authority is going to be a little, a little dickier thanier than for Washington DC where he has a unique ability to do so.
		It's literally the federal district after all.
		But the politics here are just a total, total no brainer.
		And I think most of the non-nutch job Chicagoans, to the extent that there are that many remaining, will support this move.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		And take, look, take polls for what, you know, what you want, like some people are really thinking that they're worthless and that's fine.
		But poll after poll, these kind of measures are popular because the people that are living with this crime from day to day don't want to live with this crime.
		They don't want to feel like they're going to have to jump in the tub because there's a shootout outside their house.
		They don't want their kids to get shot in, you know, playing at the park.
		That kind of thing does happen all the time in these big cities with a lot of crime.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's jump to this story from the post millennial.
		Tim Waltz plays into dead Trump hoax.
		There will be news sometime.
		Oh boy.
		There's a couple of stories related to this.
		My favorite was this one actually, the mystery garbage bag.
		Trump is saying apparently it's AI.
		That's there.
		Let me just play the video.
unidentified		We don't need the audio on this.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		For those that are not watching us listening, the video appears to show the White House.
		A window is open and it looks like someone hucks a garbage bag out the window.
		Apparently Trump was like, those windows are sealed.
		You can't open them.
		So it may be an AI video that was a hoax.
		But what I love about it is this video went viral on these anti-Trump forums because they were saying, holy crap, Trump's dead.
		They're just disposing of the evidence.
		Something's wrong.
		They're not telling us the truth.
		And I'm like, wow.
		Then Tim Waltz does this thing.
		Let me play the video here.
tim walz ▲ ● ▼		You get up in the morning and you doom scroll through things.
		And although I will say this, the last few days you woke up this morning, thinking there might be news just saying just saying there will be news sometime.
		Just so you know, there will be news.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He's saying Trump will be dead.
		Now the crazy thing is, guys, it was Labor Day weekend.
		We made a bunch of pizzas.
		We got one of those brick ovens.
		It's amazing.
		And we were hanging out.
		I did a little bit of work in the morning, but there was no live show and there was no IRL because it's Labor Day.
		And so Trump is gone for a few days and the left starts saying he's dead.
		The fact that Tim Waltz can go on stage and say, you all saw that and they know what he's talking about.
		This is a cult.
		They are deranged and insane people.
		A holiday weekend happened where the president was not heard from, and my first response was what was Labor Day?
		Well, yeah, but he was missing before.
		Yeah, now it's a long weekend.
		So it's like Friday's around the corner and he's like, look, I'm just going to hang out with the family.
		It's Labor Day, give me a break.
		And I was like, okay, we all feel that way.
		Trump's not special in that regard.
		But they all genuinely believed this psychotic conspiracy theory.
		And then when they announced that Trump was going to do a press conference, they started spreading rumors that Trump was announcing his resignation.
		And then what happens?
		Trump shows up, sharp as a tack.
		Talking about all sorts of stuff.
		That's like a three hour press conference.
		Okay, it was actually like, well, like an hour.
		Totally healthy and normal.
		How do we function as a country when half the population is deranged?
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Hey, votes.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Well, it's like Gavin Newsom trying to do like a crappy imitation of Trump.
		This is the left doing a crappy imitation of the right.
		Leave the conspiracy theories to us.
		You guys just aren't good at it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And universal suffrage.
unidentified		Yeah.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		The Blue and On stuff.
		Sorry guys.
		It just feels bootleg cut ray.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Did you did you did you did you did you did you but this has always been the lie.
		The right's not been conspiratorial.
		They've been analytical.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Well, we're right, usually.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Indeed.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		So that's the difference.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Did you see them all lying and claiming Walter Reed's roads were blocked off?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		These people are crackpots.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Jess Margera, I'm talking to you, buddy.
		I hope you hear this.
		This is nuts, dude.
		You're blue and on lunatics.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		One of the other things.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Touch grass, go out and touch grass.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		One of the other things that you're starting to see a lot of is people saying, look, JD Vance, when he gets into office, he's going to consolidate power and blah, blah, blah.
		And it blows my mind that people are saying this because it's like, look, if something happens to Donald Trump, right?
		Like, I'm not hoping for it, but if something does happen, he gets sick or whatever, we have a constitutional process that means that JD Vance will take office because he is the vice president.
		The idea that that's some kind of, some kind of attempt to seize power, it's just totally ridiculous.ous.
		And I feel like it goes beyond conspiratorial to be completely detached from reality.
		Just totally don't want to acknowledge that there is a normal process and JD Vance would take office as president and that would be perfectly normal.
		It's happened multiple times in our history.
		There's nothing unique about it.
		And still, they continue to act as if JD Vance would be, would take power.
		And they're trying to set up the idea that JD Vance would be worse than Donald Trump because Donald Trump is Hitler.
		And so JD Vance would be super mega Hitler or whatever.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they have these buzzwords, right?
		I mean, consolidate power.
		That's one of their favorites.
		I mean, I've spoken at conferences in Budapest, Hungary, multiple times in the past few years, and they love bashing the Prime Minister there, Victor Orban, for what they call democratic backsliding.
		That's that's that's their favorite term of choice for over over in Hungary and I guess Europe more broadly is they're sending democracy backwards in MERS.
		I mean, you know, they say they say the same shit here about President Trump on a day and day basis as well.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Don't you guys remember when Ron DeSantis was briefly in the lead?
		What the reaction from the left was, the liberals.
		It was Ron DeSantis is worse than Trump.
unidentified		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You don't understand.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He's imagine if Trump was competent, he's going to be so much much worse.
		And then when DeSantis of course lost, it was no, no, Trump's Trump's been bad all the time.
		Who's Ron?
		And now JD Vance.
		They're gearing up for the same regurgitated psychocult garbage.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Because they have no substance in it.
		Correct.
		The Democratic Party is so torn between the progressives and the what you would consider normal Democrats, and they don't know who they are as a party.
		There was someone that was talking, I forgot who it was, but it was a tweet that I saw said that AOC, Zoharan Mamdani and the rest of the DSA need to leave the Democratic Party because they are dragging them down..
		The progressives are really harming normal Democrats.
		And as long as the progressives are the ones that are setting the policy choices and making the arguments most vocally, you're going to have a problem because the American people have clearly said we don't want that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's just not true though.
		Who was it?
		Who's the Virginia guy?
		Is it Mark?
		What's his face?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Warner?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Was it was he the guy who was like, I'm going to go save Kilmar, Braver Garcia or whatever?
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		That was the Maryland guy, Van Holland.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no, recently.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let me, let me pull the tweet up.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Maybe it was more.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it was a guy in Virginia.
		And I tweeted at him like, glad I live in West Virginia, not regular Virginia, because we're going to Virginia.
		It's nuts.
		There's no regular democrats.
		Yo, the middle of the road, democrats are being like., hey, you know that wife beating MS 13 human smuggler?
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I'm like, nah, he not I get him out of here.
		And they're like, nah.
		I'm like, okay, well, I'm not voting for Tim Waltz.
		He's supposed to represent the regular Democrat.
		You get rid of AOC, you're worse off.
		Like, at least AOC will say something like moderately anti-war.
		Do I want woke light with with neoliberal warmongering?
		No.
		At least I know what the progressives are trying to do.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't want either of them, to be honest.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		But this stuff makes me happy.
		I mean, I mean, when Tim Waltz, I mean, he was their vice presidential candidate.
		When he plays into this dead Trump porn.
		And that's what it is.
		This is just their version of porn, right?
		I mean, when they play when he's playing the Dead Trump porn, when the mayor of Minneapolis is bashing thoughts and prayers within minutes of a horrific shooting there.
		I mean, you know, who benefits from this insanity?
		I mean, I not them.
		I mean, the only opposition.
		I mean, that is to say, you know, what I call civilizational sanity.
		I mean, you want to call the right.
		That's fine.
		I think, I kind of think the whole left-right dichotomy is a little bit kind of ahistorical at this point.
		There, I think of it more as just civilizational sanity versus, you know, civilizational arson.
		But when the arsonists are saying this stuff there, you know, we on Team Sanity, I mean, we're, you know, we're picking up a trick.
		We're getting new followers, new voters there, and we're looking good.
		So I'm not saying it's necessarily a good thing for the country and Fury.
		You don't want half the country to be totally deranged there.
		I'm just saying that I think the solace that I take in the silver lining is that they're not winning anyone over with this.
		They're winning over no one at all there.
		And they're not in good shape as it is.
		I mean, even the New York Times had this long forum piece talking about how the 2030 Electoral College, the census, it's going to be a bloodbath for them.
		Everyone's fleeing the blue states.
		They're fleeing the Illinois, the Connecticuts, the New Yorkers.
		Where are they going?
		They're going to the red states, Florida, Texas, Carolinas, Georgia, Arizona, you name it there.
		So the trend is very much already on its way.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It was Mark Warner.
		He said this afternoon.
		I visited Kilmar, Oberger Garcia and other detainees, the Farmville detention center, delivered letters from his family.
		He wants to keep fighting for justice.
tim walz ▲ ● ▼		Imagine how emotional he was.
tim walz ▲ ● ▼		He wants to keep fighting for justice.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Me too.
		Me too.
		And that would be send him back.
		Anyway, wait, wait, wait, wait.
		Send him back on.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		If they had a leader, if there was someone that was a quote, so quote, sane democrat that stepped up that actually could lead the party and had the charisma and the political, you know, the political chops to do that, they would fall in line.
		But this is because he's floundering because the whole party is floundering.
		He's not sure where to go.
		He doesn't know if this is the right thing to do or not.
		So he's doing what he thinks is the best thing for his future electoral, you know, possibilities.
		But if there was someone that was to speak well and came up and said, okay, this is what the party should be doing that was a real good leader, they could lead the party in a direction that would get them, you know, that would get them the votes that they need.
		But there's no one that can do that right now.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They tried.
		So the Cracker Barrel thing happens, right?
		And I'm lying on my couch watching Fox News, just, you know, listen to that sweet, sweet Jesse Waters tell me stories all night.
		And the Democrats put out this tweet where they were like, it's the meme of the guy standing up, you know.
		making his pronunciation, his enunciation.
		And it said, we too think the Cracker Barrel rebrand is bad.
		And I was like, look, the Democratic Party is healing.
		They're realizing that the strategy of anything you think.
		is anything you do is bad.
		That strategy doesn't work.
		And so when people were like the Cracker Barrel rebrand is a bad thing, the Democrat Twitter said, We agree.
		But within only a few hours, all the, the, the, the, the known faces and actors, liberals, came out and said, you're just bigots.
		And, you know, you think Cracker Barrel, blah, blah, blah.
		And they made memes of like Confederate flags and swastikas.
		And it's like, guys, Cracker Barrel, I want you to know a secret.
		I know I've been on this bend over the past month about population.
		The reason why Cracker Barrel rebranded is because of population collapse.
		100%.
		They rebranded and the liberals defend the rebrand, even though it was a clear clear and obvious mistake because anything the right likes, they must oppose.
unidentified		But for the brief moment, I'll find the tweet.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They actually were in agreement.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Wait, sorry.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		How does it have to do with population?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The Cracker Barrels was struggling.
		Their numbers were bad.
		Their sales were down.
		And I've heard a couple of different stories.
		I could be wrong about this, but this is an, this is somewhat ancillary, but I heard that the original CEO got fired because of a lack of sales.
		I don't know if that's true.
		One thing is true is that the revenue was decreasing.
		And this wasn't just growth where they're trying to establish new locations.
		This was existing locations.
		We're seeing revenue decline.
		At least this is, this is my understanding of the story.
		So they bring in the CEO and they ask the question like, why are we losing money?
		And they try to figure it out.
		And so the assessment is, look, people just want a booth and they want sugar covered cinnamon swirl dessert pancakes.
		Okay.
		They don't care for hokey, you know, nickncks on the wall and then in a little store with all the nickncks to buy.
		They just want sugar donut swirl double glazed pancakes.
		So they said, okay, simplify.
		Get rid of the theme stuff, cut the cost down, reduce our footprint and give the people what they want.
		And it got worse.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The reason why sales are going down is because people don't bring their families out to dinner anymore.
		Ten years ago, you had more families.
		You have substantially less families now.
		So when a couple goes to get breakfast, it's a man and a woman sitting down at a table for four ordering two orders of sugar glazed garbage pancakes.
		Ten years ago, it was four people, two kids, getting a short stack of sugar glazed garbage pancakes with their parents and their parents pay were spending a little more.
		Revenue was going down because people don't feed their kids anymore.
		People have talked about why did Pizza Hut turn into a strip mall from the family location?
		Because people don't have kids anymore.
		Why did the McDonald's play place go away and now McDonald's is a brutalist cube?
		Cube because people don't have kids anymore.
		So this population collapse results in Cracker Barrel losing money, forcing the rebrand.
		Everybody says it's garbage.
		They try and backtrack, but the revenue will still go down.
		So anyway, long story short, the Democrats have no idea how to adapt to this.
		The only thing they have is if the right likes it, it's bad.
		And there's no recovery.
		Let me try and find that tweet from the Democrats because they were agreeing for a second.
		Yep, that was easy.
		Took me two seconds.
		This is it right here.
		At the Democrats tweeted, we think the Cracker Barrelrel rebrand sucks too.
		And they got a ton of retweets for it.
		Bipartisanship 2025.
		I quote tweeted and said at last unity.
		And then what happened?
		The next day, all of your familiar faces, all of the prominent liberals were like, Cracker Barrel should rebrand because they're racist.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Democrats tried, they tried.
		This is the way you win.
		This is how the Democrats win again.
		They start acting like Joe Rogan and stop acting like weird, woke, lefty activists.
unidentified		Yeah.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, part of the problem with the Democrats is that they do adopt the aesthetics of middle America sometimes without actually implementing the policies that would benefit middle America.
		Like a great example was during the Kamala Waltz campaign.
		They had these camo hats with the orange text on it.
		They're like, see, look at us.
		It's like a Bass Pro Shops.
		We're one of you guys.
		And their policies would like eviscerate like middle America.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but I mean that was always very fake and very clearly fake.
		Like nobody was buying it.
		Nobody buys that Tim Waltz is an avid hunter or that he's a gun guy or that Kamala Harris has a Glock or that any of them are pro Second Amendment or any of the garbage they try to try to.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		You remember Tim Waltz trying to hold that shotgun?
unidentified		Yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it was it was it was it was the whole like, you know, three from.
		from unglorious bastards, right?
		Like this is the German three.
		He's like, oh, this is this is this was it this?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is the German three.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, this is good English.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but that's the point.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I'm not a German.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I love that meme.
		It's like how you know someone's not really part of your subculture.
		It shows them going like this.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It's the same thing.
		It's super, super transparently BS.
		and when they do try to go and say, hey, we actually, you know, we actually want to try and attract young men and attract Middle America, they can't help but do things that automatically put them off.
		They've been telling young white guys that they're the devil for the better part of twenty years.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Before we go to the next story, I do want to read this one quick super chat.
		Louis Rodriguez says, Civil War is out population collapse.
		No, population collapse is a fact.
		What happens in that population collapse, we don't exactly know, but we know for a fact it's happening because we can actually track the fertility numbers.
		Civil War, on the other hand, is there's some kind of political turmoil happening, but they're both going to happen.
		Hope you're preparing.
		I don't know what civil war would look like if it does happen, but when infrastructure and resources crumble and collapse, you will get fighting.
		Trump is deploying the National Guard to U.S. cities.
		This is another escalation.
		And I'm gonna say I predicted it.
		Let's jump to this story though.
		Talking about cultural bifurcation.
		Woke NBC issues apology for misgendering Minneapolis child killer.
		Yeah, let me say that for you again from the Daily Mail.
		Woke NBC issues apology for misgendering Minneapolis child killer.
		Now let's get to the brass tax on this and clarify.
		I had tweeted this morning that NBC News apologizes to the shooter for misgendering them.
		And the headline from Mediaite says issues correction to which liberals went.
		This is why nobody likes Mega.
		It was a correction, not an apology.
		My response, when you intentionally lie to a religious person who's threatening you, do we call that a correction?
		Sure, with air quotes, maybe.
		Yes, I'm correcting my behavior.
		I call it an act of contrition.
		So here's what happened.
		NBC News wrote about the child killer and said, he him.
		Later issued a correction on the article saying the shooter used her pronouns and changed the article to say she her.
		The New York Times did the same.
		Now, this individual also wrote in Cyrillic, according to the New York Post, that they did not want to be trans.
		Therefore, they're a he him.
		So what's happening is NBC News is apologizing to an ideology in an act of contrition.
		Please forgive us.
		We use the wrong pronoun.
		If they were actually correcting the record, they'd say this is a male.
		He did this thing.
		So my argument is intentionally injecting fake information into an article to appease an ideological faction is an act of contrition.
		Otherwise, colloquially known as an apology.
unidentified		Thank you.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		mean, that's what it was.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What does it mean for us as a society that we have prominent, I mean, NBC is one of the classic prominent media enterpr enterprise of the United States and they're doing this.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		I mean, you still have the problem, like, a lot of these news agencies, even though the culture of the United States has shifted right in the last three years, is the reality and even across the political spectrum is all these newsrooms, their PAs, they're still activists fundamentally.
		Like, a lot of these kids are still activists and unfortunately the way that media works, mass media, is it attracts a lot of former Reformed Theater kids who are still ultimately activists at the end of the day.
		And they're the ones that are in control of press releases like this.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I would, I obviously agree with that, but I would take it probably even further, maybe, which is, look, if you're running like a local article., if you're in a very liberal jurisdiction, okay, you're in San Francisco or whatever, and some local transgender person thinks it's a boy thinks it's a girl, vice versa there, and you're a lefty publication, you want to apologize fine, but let's not let's not miss the forest for the trees here.
		This is a murderer, this is like a rampage mass murderer.
		I mean, this is demonic, satanic evil in our midst.
		I mean, we should not only shouldn't be apologizing for this, I mean, we should be deliberately spitting in this person's memory and like trying to condemn anything that this individual, male, female, boy girl who who gives who who the hell cares?
		I mean, this is demonic, satanic evil that we should smite out.
		May the memory be erased forever and ever.
		The notion we're going to somehow apologize to to what?
		To the parents, to the quote unquote transgender.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Who is offended by it?
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		The gender dysphoria community is offended that a mass murderer a person with gender dysphoria, I mean, it doesn't make it make sense.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't think the person even actually was trans.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The reporting was that they regretted it.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it was, and right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So former trans.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I guess.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
unidentified		Yeah.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, anyway.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Anti-Trump.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What, like, didn't Rosie O'Donnell say that it was a MAGA person?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I don't pay any attention to Rosie O'Donnell, I have no idea.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What do you mean?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I follow her musings every day, her gentle musings.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Maybe I should.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		For a good laugh.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		But to your point, Josh, like the left can't help but do things that are essentially what normal people consider evil, right?
		They can't help but take the bad guy's side.
		They were taking the bad guy's side during all the BLM riots.
		They were on the side of the people that were literally rioting.
		The vice president was sending out messages for a go fund me to get people that had been arrested, get them bail money.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Bro.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		The what's it?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They made the orcs good guys.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And Lord, literally, Tolkien's like, orcs are just an embodiment of evil.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And they're like, when we rewrite this, we're going to make the orcs relatable.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		We're going to humanize them.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		When anytime anyone talks about helldivers or starship troopers, they take the bug side.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Take the bug side.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know what's really funny is that before they made, I think Rings of Power was the series on Amazon where they made the orcs into like regular people to sympathize with.
		There was a meme going around for a long time where it's Lord of the Rings and they're like, the orcs are about to storm the gates of Gondor.
		And they're like, well, let them in.
		Don't be racist.
		Yeah.
		And then they literally made it.
		For those who don't know, in Rings of Power it got roasted because Tolkien in Lord, I'm not a big Lord of the Rings person, but the general idea was that like, I think the story is that elves were kidnapped, tortured and turned into orcs or something.
		Or was that, is that Orkai?
		I don't know.
		But they were like, they were manifest evil by Mordor made from dirt or something.
		And then they make the Rings of Power.
		And they're like, nah, orcs are people who are scared and fighting for their resources.
		And they show orcs with babies and like wives.
		And everyone was like, is this a joke?
		They were just supposed to be one dimensional bad guys.
		But the left got hold of it and said, nah, we're all about diversity.
		They're actually good guys.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It's ridiculous.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They actually like being the bad guys.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, take a look.
		My favorite example is Captain Marvel.
		In Captain America, the story is a young man desperately wants to join the military and lies to try and join the military, and then during a training exercise throws himself on the grenade, sacrifices himself to try and save his friends.
		Captain Marvel, she always had the power.
		It was suppressed by a man, and she robs a guy for telling her to smile.
		And that's what they think is good.
		They like being the villains.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		They believe that they're oppressed.
		violently act out.
		They think that and whoever they side with is the oppressed person.
		They believe that.
		So if that person violently reacts or acts out, then it's justified because whoever they're acting out against was their oppressor or is in line with their oppressor.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		I mean, that's obviously their entire approach to the whole Middle East conflict as well, right?
		It's the exact same thing.
		Yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It's the whole approach to life.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Well, you saw like after the shooting, you saw on Reddit people celebrating there saying, thank you for settling this score because in their head, especially in the transgender community and their head, the white middle class Christian family is opponent number one, enemy number one because those are the people that brought them into this world and their life is suffering.
		Who are you going to blame for your life suffering?
		You're going to blame the people that brought you into this world, which is, yeah, families and children like this.
		And so that's like enemy number one.
		Of all the evil in the world, the number one group that they hate is just like normal because that's what types of families they come from.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Did you guys see the Patrick Bet David surrounded by twenty anti capitalists?
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		I didn't see that.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		I saw a clip from this.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think it was improperly titled.
		I think it's Patrick Bet David surrounded by twenty retards because and I will I will say this while PBD is largely correct.
		There were so many moments where I was like, he could have actually just hit a grand slam.
		Like they set him up, but he didn't go for the debate talking point death blow.
		But you have all these people that do not understand the function of economics, work, labor or otherwise.
		And so I was watching this and I was like, well, we're cooked.
		These young people were anti-capitalist.
		My favorite question that was asked of PBD was how much money would you need to feed and house everybody in the country or whatever?
		And that was a layup.
		That was a freebie for PBD to destroy anti-capitalist ideology.
		And instead he asked her about what it means to be communist or something.
		So this person, when they ask the question, how much money do you need to feed everybody in the world?
		You know what my question is?
		How many calories are in a dollar bill?
unidentified		Do we know?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Anybody?
		I'd imagine it's probably negative calories.
		It probably takes more money to digest the cloth paper than it does that.
		Oh, oh, oh, you didn't mean to literally eat the money.
		meant how much food do you need and how much shelter do you need but see these leftist young people not always young don't understand you can't eat money turns into bread.
		That if you put a dollar on the table, put a pillow over and go to bed, the bread fairy comes and takes the dollar and puts bread for you.
		Just magic.
		This is the mentality of the younger generations.
		The younger you get, the more likely they are to believe this, that money is like the food is just there.
		They literally were telling PBD that we're in a post scarcity reality and that people like you, this is the PBD, are intentionally hoarding wealth to keep other people from eating.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It's ridiculous.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We are not post scarcity at all.
		Someone had to make that bread, grow that wheat, harvest the wheat and deliver it to the bakery where they could make the flour, you know, convert the, smash the wheat into flour, or they probably just bought the flour from Cisco, and then make the bread and then sell to you.
		Leftists don't understand that money isn't food, and that if they had all the money in the world, they wouldn't be able to buy a loaf of bread with it.
		This is the next generation that's coming up.
		So I'm kind of like, you know, I look at that.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think like, what are you going to do?
		You see, you see people, like, you see people divorced from the mechanisms that create prosperity, like, throughout generations.
		Like, baby boomers were the generation that effectively threw away the classical civilization of the Western Hemisphere.
		Like, a large part was they were the first generation that allowed mass immigration, offshoring., like economic offshoring introduced inflation, this sort of mass, mass inflation through the credit system and that sort of thing.
		So it's like, a lot of times like, okay, yes, Gen Z is a very practical thing.
		Like they just don't understand how food gets on the table.
		But you see this across generations that people in America are just completely divorced from the mechanisms that create civilization.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Every generation, you get larger and larger cohorts of people who are developmentally disabled.
		We'll say that would be nice.
		What I mean by that is what you described.
		They're divorced from the reality of what makes society function.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		And it's like, it's pertinent across all generations, at least.
		since like after the world wars.
		And also the composition of each generation has changed.
		Like boomers, they're much more cohesive, they're much more homogeneous, and zoomers are like very diverse in a whole array of ways.
		So it's like, yeah, you're going to get a lot of different answers from a lot of different zoomers on things than you would get from baby boomers just by nature of how diverse or lack of homogeneity you have among zoomers.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And you know what, no one wants to tell you on the right or the left?
unidentified		What?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Poverty is a requirement of a functioning society.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's true.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There has to be a low class of people who are struggling and work as hard as they can and do jobs that people don't, the average person doesn't like to do.
		And nobody wants to tell you that because everybody wants to fight to break out of that bottom tier, that lower class of society.
		But, you know, I'll explain it quite simply.
		If every single person had all of their needs met, what job would ever get done?
unidentified		Right.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I mean, there's the argument that some people would be like, oh, well, I do this because I love it.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		But that would be an exceedingly small portion of the population would actually do it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And that was easily disproven by the neat generation, largely millennial and into Gen Z, people who live in the basements or spare bedrooms of their parents and don't get jobs because their needs are met and they don't have to.
		And this is also the welfare argument.
		People who there are so many stories of people who are on welfare who say, well, you know, the problem is if I do get a job, I'll actually make less money.
		So I'm better off staying on welfare.
		This is the issue.
		They're, they're, they're for a society to function, you need people who are going to wake up every day and say, I have to work and I have to work hard.
		And some people aren't going to have the skills or the intelligence to make lots of money.
		So they're going to work really, really hard for a long time.
		And that's just reality.
		When two things are happening back to population, people who don't have kids don't have to work.
		People who have kids have to work.
		People are living with their parents and their parents, their snow plow parents are taking care of them.
		They don't need jobs, so they don't work.
		Then you have other young people who are working the bare minimum to cover their basic needs and without children don't need to fight twice as hard.
		So what's now happening is this is the this, you know, I was talking about this a month ago.
		I went to a club where I was, you know, having a business meeting and they have a they have a it's like a light club.
		And so we're talking about why we can't find contractors and why no matter how many times we reach out to people, they're like, we're overbooked and we're booked out for three months.
		And I'm like, that's crazy is there nobody who can do a basic rudimentary contracting job and I look out the window and it's a Wednesday and I see a gaggle of young men swimming and drinking beers and laughing and I said why aren't those young men saying right now I got you let's go get let's go to work they don't have kids so they're like screw it I'm gonna go party well I mean the you see the meme of like you know there's a TV a bed a chair there's an Xbox and
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		people are like oh this is all a young guy needs like there's a lot of dudes that are completely satisfied with internet access some kind of distraction like Xbox and a roof over that.
		Not everyone, but there's a lot of people that are like, well, you know, I have all the stuff I need, so why do I have to go out and do more?
		The people that are actually motivated to go out and do stuff, that's probably a significantly small portion of the society.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Because I don't know if it's like children, because it's like, I think fertility directly correlates with lack of productivity.
		Like if you look at Africa, it's like exhibit A for low productivity with high fertility.
		In the United States, it's a bit different.
		Fertility is more correlated.
		It's like ideology.
		Like Catholics and Evangelical and Muslims are above replacement and agnostics, atheists are below replacement.
		So in America, it's more to do with like what's your family background than it is with like class or whatever.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, I mean, that's where my mind goes for this whole conversation is religion.
		I mean, my mind goes back virtually every time to the decline of organized religion, to the decline of church attendance, to the decline of people who believe in God, who are involved with their communities there.
		I mean, I've said this literally my entire adult life actually.
		I I said if I could flip a switch and do literally one thing that would solve not literally every social problem we have there, but the overwhelming majority of America's problems, the closest thing that I put it this way, the closest thing that I can think of a one stop panacea to put America back on its the right track would be to put more Americans back in God fearing churches.
		That would that is literally just the number one thing that would happen.
		I mean, fertility, Christ a meeting, dating, marriage, getting married younger, you know, forgoing, you know, these stupid, you know, student loan driven, you know, gender studies major, two to a thousand plus dollars in debt degrees, go date someone, learn a trade, get, you know, be an apprentice, like actually learn something, do something in your life.
		All this I think would, would, would just be fundamentally put back on the right track.
		If we could get more people to actually start believing and actually go into, into pure.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		One of the problems.
		Millennials and Gen Z largely.
		It's a scale, right?
		So, you know, it's funny when Gen X goes like, why are you forgetting about us?
		Because Gen X is stable.
		So, boomers to us, the smallest asylant to the smallest boomers, slightly more Gen X slightly more millennials kind of a lot Gen Z even more Gen Alpha's probably gonna be just totally cooked.
		There is a purposelessness.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And I'd have to imagine your average Gen Z guy who plays like World of Warcraft all day.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If they still play, I mean, do people still play World of Warcraft?
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Some Fortnite Rocket League.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Wow had its day.
		If an angel, if they were walking through a field one day.
		They were like went to a Dollar General and they were walking home through a field And it was like dusk, and then all of a sudden a blinding beam of light struck the ground before them, and an angel came down, and you know, angel, you choose.
		Is it the gigantic ring of eyeballs with wings all over it, or is it a glorious looking being with wings floating down, carrying a heavenly sword?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Ring of eyeballs.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Ring of eyeballs.
		And then with a booming voice which emerged from the center of this neat, said, You have been tasked with divine mandate.
		Your job is, and it literally just gave it like be fruitful, the person, be fruitful and multiply, do this, that is your mission.
		They would probably be the happiest person.
		They would be happier than they ever have been in their life.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		100%.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Knowing and being told you, you have a purpose and a mandate and a mission.
		We used to have this through faith and community.
		And now I think it's a large component of luxury because we don't have to fight for survival as much as we used to.
		No more bears, no more monsters, no more controversy.
		You wake up, dozen donuts, dirt, it's cheap, you can get it, you barely have to work.
		So people are just like, what am I doing?
		Why am I here?
		And they have no purpose and they become depressed and amoral.
		And the one thing I will say is as these people drift towards like socialism and communism, a large component is finding a mission.
		The socialists promise them fulfillillment.
		This is our mission.
		We must defeat our great evil.
		And so they catch on to whatever they can.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Yeah.
		I mean, like the number one complaint I get from like female zoomer friends and their relationships or even marriages is that like the men just don't lead anywhere.
		And it's not that, like there's a lot of problems with women zoomers in the dating market.
		So this is not like an anti man point, but it is true that like men are all like so devoid of purpose that they have trouble.
		They're self conscious leading someone if they don't even know what they're leading them to.
		And I think that hits to your point with religiosity, but also in general, like there's just a lack of drive.
		So like young men are having a problem leading, not maybe not testosterone related per se, but it's just because they don't know what they're leading the women to.
		They don't matter.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		The percentage of young women who say that there is a dearth of marriageable or even datable men is shocking.
		It's absolutely shocking.
		And we can blame the ladies fed on all we want at this table, right?
		And say, oh, their standards are too high or whatever there.
		But no, I mean, at some point, more young men have to do what you say they do and actually lead and be a breadwinner.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I love this, this trend of guys being like women are too picky and their hoes and all that stuff.
		And I'm like, Terrible look, terrible.
		It's not, it's just not correct.
		Women have always, women are women, they'll always be women and they'll always have high standards, whatever it is.
		I love how, you know.
		There was this trend among women of the chopped man epidemic.
		And the guys, the response from like Red Pill guys was, this proves our point that women only want the highest tier of guys.
		And I'm like, you're saying the same thing they're saying.
		You are all below average and not working hard enough to be the best.
		There's like, you're just kind of disparaging each other in different ways.
		Just work harder.
		You know, I guess younger guys, I obviously blame their parents, the younger generation's parents who didn't instill in them that drive to conquer.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Well, like also the problem that happened.
		with the younger, with Zoomers specifically, is that the dating market that we entered into is completely different from our parents.
		So there's nothing that my parents could really advise me on dating wise that would be of much utility because of the introduction of dating apps and these kinds of things.
		It's completely nuke the playing field.
		And this is like the Zoomers are the test, that's to the extent the millennials, the younger millennials, it's like the first generation testing out this new method of matchmaking.
		Because the reality is like the majority of marriage licenses are now being issued to couples that met through dating apps.
		So it's like it's just a whole new paradigm and the older generations can't really provide much insight.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Just because of the way civilization has just been completely restructured in the Western Hemisphere.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		A lot of things were referred to them that we would never have gotten a chance to even get access to in the first place.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, the funniest thing is, like, I met my wife at work.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yo, good luck, Gen Z, trying to, like, date someone you're working with.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		You got the last chopper out of Nam.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I know, right?
		Like, you'll get arrested.
		For sure.
		You'll get put on blast on social media.
		You'll go viral.
		They'll accuse you of being a sexual harasser.
		Then the company will get sued.
		You'll get blacklisted and lose your job.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		This is a real problem, though.
		I mean, historically, that was probably one of the highest percentage chances of actually meeting your spouse.
		I mean, like, that or church, basically.
		That's like your two-est, highest percentage.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Now it's like you're Gen Z and you get a job at an office and you have, like, you know, attractive female co-worker.
		And you're like, hey, you want to hang out sometime?
		And then she goes, yeah, just give me a second.
		HR, can we fire this guy?
		He's harassing me.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Literally.
		like the majority of my friends that are in relationships or married, met through dating apps.
		And the guys that are not, and also the girls, it's just they're not, as their personality, just not equipped for that style of matchmaking.
		So it's like, there's just a filter that right now, it's like, how well are you at conducting and presenting yourself online?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Trump should just, like, you know, he's deploying the National Guard, he should mandate marriages and just force, you know.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		State issued girlfriend, I've been saying this.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		State issued No, no, worse than that.
		State mandated marriages.
		You don't get to pick either.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, you walk into it, it'll be the Department of Marriage certificates or marriage administration, the DMA, and you walk in and there's just a curtain and they go next and the lady's like sitting there and her eyes are half glazed over and she's got long fingernails and she's pressing a button the curtain opens and you get what you get.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		You have a chopped index and it's like you guys are looks matched.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		You're both the equal.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh no, you think it'll be that good.
		You get what you get, brother.
		This is the government.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Randomized?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It's the government.
		They're not going to do it well.
		What does the government do well?
		The only thing the government does well is like the military skill-based matchmaking.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The government's really good at spending money.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yes, they're good at spending money.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		That's what Balance here is preparing this database.
		They can have a chopped index and then match these couples up to the Department of Marriage.
		I think this is a great plan, actually.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is better than Hinge, for sure government mandated marriage it's gonna it's gonna be all bad it's gonna be they're gonna blow it it's gonna you're gonna get paired with people you hate you know that's what i we've talked about it a little bit before like handmaid's tale we mentioned this like last month isn't the story like popula humans are going extinct i could be wrong but like my understanding was that there something happened a great catastrophe So the society has become very like fundamentalist.
		Like women have to have babies.
		Otherwise humans will cease to exist.
unidentified		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And women are like, nah, that's bad.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's like, okay, I got to be honest.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If human population collapsed to the point of near extinction, I'm going to be on the side of like, you know, ladies, you got to have kids.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, of course.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And like the men have to fight and provide for those kids and and otherwise we go extinct.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
		You know, I've been to Japan multiple times over the past decade and the first time I was there, I was struck.
		So Japan famously has horrific fertility rates, horrific.
		And they compound that with a very restrictionist immigration policy.
		So Japan naturalizes, I think the status is like a hundred or fewer new Japanese citizens every year, which is, you know, you call it extraordinarily based or extraordinarily nationalist.
		I mean, like, I more or less support that, whatever it's worth.
		But I mean, when you have that combined with a shockingly low fertility rate, they're facing a demographic crisis, for sure.
		And the first time I was there, I was shocked.
		I was talking with some locals, and one of them was telling me about they have in Tokyo, I assume the other big cities too, cuddle bars, which are literally exactly what it sounds like, you essentially pay a cover fee to walk into a bar to experience cuddling, just like some sort of touch of another person there.
		And this was, I guess, 2016 was my first time there, and I kind of thought that time, I was like, is this actually coming to America any time soon?
		I don't think I've seen a cuddle bar in the United States any time soon.
		But I mean, we're kind of getting to the point where that sort of stuff is becoming increasingly less crazy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So I I've never actually watched the show or read the book, but the premise is widespread infertility.
		Birth rates have plummeted due to a mix of environmental degradation, pollution, STS and other factors.
		Many women are no longer able to conceive or even carry pregnancies to term.
		So the authoritarian state of Gilead emerges in what was once the United States claiming to fix this crisis.
		Its leaders interpret the fertility decline as divine punishment and enforce a theocratic system where fertile women called handmaids are forced into reproductive servitude to bear children for elite families.
		So I obviously, I understand it.
		It's a dystopian, you know, futuristic story.
		But I do find it fascinating that like there, there is a reality to outside of the theocratic notion of this.
		If humans are about to go extinct, your choices are have kids or go extinct.
		are have kids or go extinct.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		That's it.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		It's no it's no brand to me.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, but I feel like we're facing this now.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think we're just going through a filter where it's, it's like there's, there's like three groups that are still reproducing right now.
		It's like really religious people.
		It's the super wealthy and then the super poor like in the United States at least.
		So we're just going through a filter where this basically just exterminates the middle class and exterminate the non religious.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That's not a good thing.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Well, the middle class is not a good thing at all.
		But like, anyway, so sixty years from now, like America is going to look very different.
		It's going to be very, it's going to be like a country of extremes.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		It's going to be a very, it's actually going to be a return actually to like 17th century America in all ways.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Where you're going to have Puritanism and you're going to have the aristocracy in the South.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, bro, dude, in every way.
		So with the with the mass decentralization of media and AI, everything's localizing.
		So for us, for instance, with me talking about all this population collapse stuff, Cracker Barrels losing money, right?
		So you need to look at what you can serve in your local community and how big your community is going to be when everything breaks apart, businesses are going to merge to serve just their local community because expansion will be very difficult with a shrinking population.
		With the decentralization of media, nobody knows what is true or isn't true, which means media is going to return to a largely localized focus where you do know what's true.
		So everything we're seeing suggests we're going back to the 1700s.
		And to be fair, from the 1300s to like the mid-1700s, the world didn't change.
		Obviously, there was wars and stuff like that and borders changed, but technology-wise, it was stagnant for hundredss of years.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And I think we're going to find ourselves in that position.
unidentified		Yeah.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		I mean, you're seeing a lot of these AI guys now saying that the ceiling is coming into view of what the limits are of AI.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		And it's like we could just hit that ceiling and we're at a level of comfort or maybe a level where everything is settled where they're just like technological advancement does stagnate for another hundred years as the world kind of reorganizes its civilizations around the new playing field.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think it took, what, 450 years to invent the cartridge?
unidentified		Right.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So they were like, we're going to stuff the muzzle of this, you know, tube and then put a big metal ball in it and then light it up and it fired someone.
		And then 400 years later, it was like, we're going to stuff the muzzle of this, you know, tube and then put a big metal ball in it and then light it up and it fired someone.
		And then 400 years later, it was someone said, Why don't I make a smaller tube that does all that?
		Then I can put the smaller tubes in the gun one at a time and I don't have to recharge every time.
		And it took them that long.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's crazy, isn't it?
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Was it the Spanish American War that was the first time that we had actual cartridge driven weapons used?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It was 1808 when it was first used.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		You know that?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It was John Samuel Pauli, a Swiss gunsmith.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But the first widespread use, I believe, was the Civil War.
		Could be.
		The North at Gettysburg had paper cartridges with breech loading rifles and the South had muzzle loaders.
		So the North was able to recharge substantially faster than the South.
unidentified		Got it.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Makes sense.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		When you go to Gettysburg you learn all this stuff and it's like 40 minutes from here.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's so fun.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		I've never been.
		I admire the way you're doing it.
		I really need to get there.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Tons of like the antiquities there.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You've ever been antiquating?
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		No.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you have to do it.
		Out here in West Virginia, woof, the antiquities.
		Nazi paraphernalia as far as the eye can see.
		It's not a joke.
		You walk into any antique store and it's like the first thing they show you is all the Nazi stuff they have.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Graper Heaven.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think it's just because it's like taboo.
		It's like exotic.
		It's like, oh, look, you know, the Nazis, right?
		And then behind it, you'll have the Allied, you know, World War two stuff.
		But World War two, it's like all these antique stores, it's like one of the most popular things.
		But obviously in Gettysburg, they have cannon balls from the Civil War.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's crazy.
		We found a bayonet out here, Civil War bayonet.
		Because we're, you know, we're near Harper's Ferry.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		A lot of stuff.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I imagine if you went out into most fields around here with a metal detector, you'd find some interesting stuff.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		When we were building the building, they found the bayonet.
unidentified		Yeah.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		That's really cool.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's like the premise of Dune, right?
		Is that they develop armor that can, like, withstand bullets and all that stuff.
		So they had to turn to sword fighting.
		So it's like, I actually kind of like this, like, we're talking about returning to, like, pre modern civilizational structures.
		And I like the idea of that, of that movie where it's like, we just return to sword fighting.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I like it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Have you ever seen Venture Brothers?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Have you ever seen Venture Brothers?
unidentified		Not in.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		I've done it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's like a kind of ripoff of Johnny Quest, but one of my favorite lines from that show is the premise is there's like, imagine if Johnny Quest grew up and he's it's a it's a satirical, but he's like a super smart genius inventor and he's having a yard sale of all his crazy inventions and there's like a fat nerd guy and he sees a lightsaber and he picks it up and he's like, wow, a real lightsaber.
		And then Dr. Venture goes, and he was making it for the milit the military, but then they said we don't sword fight anymore.
		It was really funny because like all the people that love playing with lightsabers and it's like, yeah, we wouldn't we wouldn't use that as like, yeah.
		Maybe as a utility belt item, but you'd have a gun.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Ranged weapons.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Guns are functional.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		That's why like, that's why like the super like Nietzsche and people love the Dune movies because it's like Return to Power or whatever.
		Because like Samuel Colt made everyone equal.
		Yeah.
		So, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's jump to this next door.
		We got big news, ladies and gentlemen, from the post millennial.
		Trump expands no tax on tips to digital content creators.
		That's right.
		The no tax on tips, this is huge.
		This means that all of your super chats are tax exempt up to $25,000.
		That's crazy, right?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, we There's a lot of streamers and stuff where it's going to be a big deal.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We were talking about this because there was a question of whether or not super chats are tips because the show happens no matter what.
		Whether you're super chatting or not, we do the show.
		You decide if you want to send it to a super chat and how much you want it.
		We don't tell you.
		And there is an argument of if we said for X amount of super chat, we will do certain tasks.
		That's called consideration, but we don't do that.
		We just say super chat if you want.
		We'll read some of them.
		That means for us, look, I'm gonna be completely honest.
		A $25,000 deduction for the company is it's good.
		It's not really going to, you know, move the needle for us all that much.
		But for most online personalities and creators, the overwhelming majority, yo, this is massive.
		This means you're going to end up saving up to 10, 15, maybe 12,000 dollars in taxes or I guess if you're making, you know, 25 to 50, you'll end up saving about 10 grand in the end.
		That's massive.
		Donald Trump pulling through is based.
		Yeah.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		It's like a form of repayment to the streamers for the press during the campaign.
		It was, it was like really a beautiful thing.
		So I don't know, maybe this is him like saying, Hey, thank you.
		That was nice.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, look at those barkeepers, wait staff, food servers.
		Actually, let's do this.
		This is, this is, you know, less on the opinion side, more on the, you guys need to know this because I've talked to a lot of service staff who have, they, they have questions.
		So I was at a restaurant and when this passed, I was like, Hey, no tax on tips.
		And they were like, What does that mean?
		Like, what does that mean for me?
		Okay.
		Barkeepers, wait staff, non-restaurant servers, dining room and cafeteria attendants and barkeepers helpers.
unidentified		Okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Chefs and cooks, food prep workers, fast food, fast food workers and counter workers, dishwashers, host staff, restaurant lounge and coffee shop bakers gambling dealers gambling change persons booth cashiers cage workers sports book writers dancers we know what that really means oh yeah yo strippers can now write off 25 000 dollars in their ill gotten games it's gonna be some strippers that's gonna be all the money they make in a year
		i i'm gonna let you guys in on a there's a there's a news story that um most people have overlooked strip clubs are shutting down across the country they're evaporating really you know why because people don't go outside and touch grass um kind of but not really the answer.
		It's actually context clues, Phil.
		Context clues.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Because no one's given, no one has cash anymore.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There are no young people to go to strip clubs and give money to strippers.
		So by us, the strip clubs, this is really hilarious.
		When you drive down, I think it's 340, there's this, there's a club.
		It's called Images.
		It says Images Club.
		And every time we drove past it, we were like, that's a strip club.
		It's called the club.
		And then one day, Richie Jackson sends us a text message saying, hey, I'm at Images.
		It's not a strip club.
		Which means Richie was looking for a strip club.
		But I digressed.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Richie's a party animal.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He indeed is.
		Shout out Richie.
		And so he's like, it's actually a really cool bar with like food and stuff coming out.
		So we went to check it out and we did karaoke and it was really, really fun.
		And the stage has mirrors all over it.
		Because it was a strip club.
		I was going to say, yeah.
		So the fascinating thing is there's strip clubs all around here.
		The word gentleman has been removed from all their signs.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So it'll say like, it'll say like the name of the bar and then it'll say big white blank club.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And do you know what they've replaced the strippers with?
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Robots.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Slot machines.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I was saying gambling.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Slots.
		So now all of these strip clubs, I think there's like one left.
		It's a it's old people and they're all just tapping away at the slot machine.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And look, 58, 60 year old guy, I guess they're less likely to throw money at young scantily clad women.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They're older dudes and they're probably like, I'm old man, you know.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Is that, is that national trend, you know, the strip club trend now?
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't, I don't, I haven't looked at the stats, but I've heard.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Well, because you're seeing like people celebrate that zoomers are not interested in strip clubs, that like teenage pregnancies are going down.
		So you would see all these indications that like zoomers are more prudish and this is like a cause for celebration among religious people.
		But I'm like, it's not, it's actually not prudishness.
		It's fear of like going outside because pornography usage is still skyrocketing among zoomers.
		So it's like, this isn't actually like a, like we're recapturing more, you know, traditional sexual values.
		It's no, it's just pornography is basically eliminating every other form of degeneracy because it's so convenient and easy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There is a national, for a variety of reasons, shutting down of strip clubs.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think the issue is young people.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's pornography primarily because why, why, why bother going to a strip club?
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		You can just do it at home.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And dating apps.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		And dating apps.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So, you know, for a lot of these people, they're just swiping on every single woman and they're like, I would rather do that than stare at some woman who's not going to do anything anything.
unidentified		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So, but the man, I went back home to Chicago for the holidays for like a couple of years ago and it was wild to go to a local pub and just see slot machines everywhere.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm like, man, we're done.
unidentified		Yeah.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		That's we're we're we're we're all over like, oh, they have that casino now in like River North, like the heart of Chicago.
		I forgot what it's called, but they have like a like the Allies.
		Yeah, exactly.
		It is a big Allies.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		And they're opening a multibillion dollar riverfront casino.
		Vegas is collapsing.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yo, it's going to be like, I know, it's probably mean to say, but I'm really excited to watch what happens to Vegas.
		They just built that multibillion dollar.
		How big, how much did the sphere cost?
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		And they had the F one track.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		cost billions.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But there's no reason to go there anymore.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		All these vanity problems.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because every state has multiple casinos now.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Not every, but many.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		A lot, a lot too.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		So why go to Vegas?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		You think that they would entice people by giving them cheap hotels, cheap food, and the actual money gets spent at the table.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		I think flights used to be cheaper too.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		You could get a package, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But Phil, there was nowhere else to go.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Your choice in casinos was the every so often Native American reservation, Atlantic City or Vegas.
		Right.
		So, you know, the first ever Native American casino was Seminole in Florida, which is now the Hard Rock.
		And that was originally Bingo.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		It's a fantastic casino, by the way.
unidentified		Fantastic.
unidentified		I love it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I love it.
unidentified		Big fan.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I love playing poker there.
		Although they allow straddle from any position.
		It's just ridiculous.
		I'm not a fan.
		But anyway, digress.
		Now the casinos are popping up everywhere.
		Virginia's opening some.
		I think they've already got a Rivers in the Hampton Roads area.
		Maryland has, what does Maryland have?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Five, six tons.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Five casinos.
		Maryland's like five.
		Yeah.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		I can think of at least three off my head.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		so yeah yeah you got horseshoe you got maryland live you got mgm you got hollywood paraville and you've got rocky get yeah yeah within as i mentioned several several times within two hours of this location i believe there's like 12 casinos well yeah i'm not uh i'm sorry am i pessimistic this is one of the reasons why i mean what does it say for our for our society I wonder if there's a corresponding decline in people going to amusement parks and stuff like that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm guessing.
		So there's a zoo around here, and they were actually trying to sell it a while ago, which is really sad.
		And they were like, nobody comes.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I know.
		water parks are like as an industry are just completely dead.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let me ask you guys a question.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Water parks are gross.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If you and the boys got Friday night, you got a couple hundred bucks loose cash, you're going to spend it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You want to go to the zoo or you want to go to a casino.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Now the casino's got a food court.
		It's got beer.
		You don't even got to gamble.
		And if you get a player's card, you'll get some free bets.
		So you go there, hang out with your friends, hang out at the bar.
		I got to admit, like at Sea Town Races, they have a really cool bar.
		And it's fun to just like hang out in the, like, or the sports book.
		They got a big jumbo screen.
		You're watching sports.
		You get some wings.
		You're hanging out.
		You get a player's card.
		They're going to give you free bets and you have a cash or whatever and you don't even have to gamble.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Nobody's got kids.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If you've got a Friday off or you've got a Saturday off and you're figuring out what you're going to do and you've got a kid, you ain't going to the casino.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You're going to the zoo.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Someone pointed this out to me recently and it's really pertinent is when you walk into restaurants now, especially like the middle price chains, is you you'll see like one or two baby chairs.
		There used to be like a whole stack of them in the corner.
		You get like one or two now.
		And then like once that was pointed out to me, you'll notice it everywhere.
		Like everyone watching.
		Next time you go to like a Red Robin, just look around, there's two baby chairs for the entire restaurant.
		It's insane.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's going to be hilarious when we're all like in our sixties and seventies.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		And.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And society is completely catering to us?
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Well, like another one that you'll notice for sure is when you go to the grocery store, they don't have the race car shopping cart anymore.
		Remember, every Kroger had a race car shopping cart?
		Those are completely gone.
		It's just normal shopping cart.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Kellen just put up a post in the Breaking News.
		No, not Breaking News.
		It's about Six Flags.
		They canceled their Fright Fest in preparation for a park's permanent closure.
		Whoa.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Which Six Flags?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Six Flags.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Oh, Maryland.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Six Flags, America.
unidentified		Wow.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Fright Fest is canceled.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Thanks, Kellen.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I appreciate that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's the end, man.
		There's no kids.
		Yeah.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		It's just the, it's like the little stuff.
		When you notice it, it's like, oh my gosh.
		When was the last time you saw saw like, yeah, like a race car shopping cart?
		They're gone, but they used to be everywhere.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I was I was thinking about, you know, what I expect my daughter to do when she grows up and I was thinking probably leather armor, a sword, scavenging for goods in an American wasteland.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Teach her to shoot.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh boy.
		But there's a lot of babies around here.
		There's like, you know, in our community, a lot of babies popping up.
unidentified		That's great.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Babies everywhere.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		A lot of them need more.
		More babies.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I'm doing my part.
unidentified		Yeah.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		And like I was saying earlier, like, at least when women decide to become mothers, the amount of children they're having is still the same.
		So the goal is just to convince more women to become mothers or at least make it easier for for them.
		And obviously men have to be good fathers as well.
		Be have the propensity to be a good father.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, a year ago, or I would say better than a year ago because my wife was pregnant a year ago, my wife and I would go to like on the weekend, we'd be like, let's go find a good place to go get food.
		And we'd go to a nice little restaurant or whatever.
		And sometimes we'd go play poker together.
		She's pretty good.
		They call her the Manslay.
		That's her nickname at the Poker Team.
		That's not a joke.
		Because she just destroys everybody.
		She's very good at poker.
		Now we have a kid.
		And so that's not even a consideration.
		Now it's like, picnic?
		Well, we can't bring the baby.
		You know, come on.
		And, you know, plus she spends a lot of time reading and, you know, teaching our daughter and things like this.
		And then when we're thinking about what we're doing for the weekend, it's family.
		And before we had a kid, I mean, this is fairly obvious stuff.
		I'm not trying to be profound or anything.
		My point is just that you're, one thing I will say in this regard is that the less a society has children, the more expensive it becomes to have children because the market doesn't cater.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So it becomes more and more scarce.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		the things you need for babies and they become more expensive.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		That's a good point.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Very good point.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If you have a factory that says we're going to make, you know, 100 million diapers this year because of all the babies, then.
		Then they're like, we have a surplus, diapers are cheap, everyone can afford them.
		But if they go, and nobody has babies, so we're only going to make a hundred thousand, those diapers are ten bucks.
		And then people struggle.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		So we're in a dark wave.
		Yeah, people aren't ready for, people haven't really thought about what it means to have so few human beings in the Gen Alpha and the Zoomers and stuff.
		It's going to impact society in ways that people are totally unprepared for.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		We're getting an insight with Japan as you're going to get like hyper urbanization.
		Like, for example, in Japan, the population is completely collapsing at this point.
		It was declining, now it's collapsing.
		But Tokyo is still growing as a city population-wise.
		So the city of Tokyo is still growing, while every other city and town in Japan, quite literally every single town is declining.
		And the United States, you're probably, and the West, broadly speaking, you're actually going to get a similar mechanism where it's going to be like, you know, the regional powerhouse city is going to be the one growing, while the rest of the region completely Well, maybe that, you know, to take it back to what Tim was saying at the beginning, maybe that is part of the reason for, you know, let's send the boys to Chicago.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		I mean, you know, while Detroit and all these other Midwestern cities are just plummeting, maybe we should, maybe we should actually try to like, actually have one legitimate city, you know, left in the Midwest.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I mean, well, just the way the market's working is, it's happening in Japan.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		It's happening in Japan, it's happening in South Korea, Seoul as well as everyone's just piling in one city.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The idea is the infrastructure costs will stay the same.
		The distribution of those costs among the population will go higher because there's fewer people.
		We're going to see an increase in buildings collapsing because there's no maintenance.
		I'm going to go back to that PBD versus the twenty retards thing.
		The reason why I say that is because these people go like, we could give a house to everybody.
		It's like, you've clearly never owned property.
		Owning like entropy is a thing to consider when owning property.
		Pipes burst, walls crumble, houses fall apart.
		Someone has to maintain it.
		You can't just give a house to a homeless but they don't get it.
		So in these cities, as population declines, populations decline, you're going to see buildingsings are collapsing.
		People are going to get injured.
		Squadrons are going to get hurt.
		There will be crime.
		Trump sends in the troops now, and you will create a foundation of stability for the time being.
		In some cases or for the near future, for the foreseeable future.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		But even in some cases, like the market can preserve the city itself, even with the population declining.
		I mean, obviously, the whole state's population is growing, so it's not the greatest example.
		But cities like Nashville and Miami are just getting better and better as each year goes on.
		It's just because people from all across the region are just piling into these cities.
		And I think that's what the future is going to look like.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But that means where they've come from will collapse.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Well, exactly.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		So that's why.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		New York's cooked.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's what I'm saying.
		It's like, so that's why you're seeing like in Japan and Seoul is like the rest of the country basically collapses.
		Everyone piles into one city.
		America's, you know, massive, so there'll be a few cities.
		But yeah, it's just it's going to be like who in the next twenty to thirty years, you know, who governs their city the best is basically.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then they're going to ban you from going into the forest.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Hiking will be a license only extremely expensive thing to do.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It's currently there's currently a prohibition on going into the forest in Canada.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's because of the burn, because of the fire season.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but I'm just saying that that kind of policy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There'll always be a reason.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		It's not.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And they'll say, well, it's because of fire.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Can't go, sorry.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Sorry.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		In Canada, you need a hiking permit?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You can't go, no, you can't go hiking right now.
		25,000 dollar fine if you go hiking get out of here 25 000 dollars yeah monopoly money oh my yeah canadian good still you know yep the king on it of what all right everybody we're going to go to your super chat so smash the like button share the show with everyone you know and become a member at timcast dot com to join our discord server we got a big plan in the works behind the scenes that I don't want to say too much just yet other than you're gonna want to be a member now you want
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		Big boy says, Tim, do you like Taco Bell?
		Oh man.
		You know what the worst thing was when I was sick?
		Basically my throat got so swollen that it shredded my throat.
		Like it was ripped up.
		And so it was painful to eat anything.
		But I will admit, as soon as I could, I got Taco Bell.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It's delicious.
unidentified		So good.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Taco Bell is horrible for you, but it's delicious.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Nursing for the soul.
unidentified		It is.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, sometimes you need it.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Today my wife made Brussels sprouts and steak.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Also very good.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Cucumba.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Cucumba.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And we, uh, she made a, um, paprika, red pepper honey glaze.
unidentified		Ooh.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The Brussels sprouts.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It was very good.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Very good.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Cheap, easy, you know?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But man, meat's getting expensive out there.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It's street corn.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		It's true.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, that's awesome too.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Real street corn from the street?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Well, no, she made it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, elotes.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, she had a great recipe.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Was it mayonnaise, red pepper, and parmesan cheese?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I don't think it was mayonnaise.
		I'm not sure how she made it.
		I'm not usually doing the cooking, but the only thing I cook are steaks.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Based.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Good for the test.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Okay, Cheeseburger says, I see three weeks of training on graphene processing units was enough to make a 100% realistic AI Tim.
		No, my favorite conspiracy is that I was spending three weeks going through the 33,000 Epstein files for redactions with Dan Bongino.
		We didn't get into that story because we actually don't know yet.
		It's 33,000 documents.
		So all we could really say is that it happened.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		You know?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Maybe we'll talk about it a little bit, I suppose, in the members only, but until someone actually starts parsing through all the documents, there's not much with the immediate release that we've got.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		The authors' best autists are on it as we speak.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		on it.
		Shane H. Wilder says Tim is back just in time for the Epstein Files.
		Coincidence or a conspiracy worthy of Inverted World Live?
		It's great to have you back, homie.
		Tate and Phil kept the seat warm for you.
		And did it, and shout out to, apart from the crew, we also had Mike Benz and Jack Posobic, and I think Alex Stein went nuts.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Alex Stein had it had a little bit of a time.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		He crashed out a little bit.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He crashed out.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He was screaming.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		He was upset.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He saw that flip.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		He was upset.
		He had got warmed up with the culture war in the morning with the Israel Palestine argument.
		And then we had a Jewish guest and started calling her names.
		And I'm like, you need to call calm down and he got upset about he was yeah then my mentions were full of of the worst people because i was telling him to calm down and a jewish woman and it's like so i'm a shilling because i'm telling him not to call her names it was it was fun good fun for everyone alex will be back no more yeah well we're we're doing we we're setting up the next culture war live events oh i'll also mention uh at tim pool on youtube yeah new channel uh
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		i don't know what we're going to do in that channel youtube just gave it to me and so uh i have a channel and then the first thing i did was apologize to Sam Cedar because the three weeks that I was off, he didn't make one video about me and his views are down twenty percent.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		So it's going to be hazing then, just the whole channel of you hazing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, I was worried about this.
		You know, if I ever have to take time off, I know that my vendors and our clients will make sure that Tim Cass employees are taken care of and that me being sick won't interrupt any of our employees' daily lives.
		But Sam can't.
		And that's why I'm asking all of you, you know, to keep him in your heart.
		Because when I was out for three weeks, he wasn't able to make videos about me.
		His subscribers' growth dropped 75% and his view count dropped 20%.
		I know.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That's going to kill him.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Oh, God.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So that was the first video I put up on the Tim Pool channel.
		Today I just did like a 30-minute reaction to the PBD debate talking about capitalism.
		So I think what we might do is just like there's a couple there's a bunch of reasons to do the new channel.
		For one, it's Tim Pool.
		It's like literally at Tim Pool.
		I didn't have that channel before.
		So now if you search my name, you get it.
		I think it's largely going to be like just content reaction stuff.
		You know, watching videos and then commenting, commenting on it.
		Whereas Timcast news is me literally pulling up news articles.
		Probably do it like that.
		The videos have done really, really well.
		I think like 80k each for the first two.
		So what's going to happen then is the YouTube algorithm is going to be like, wow, this channel's really good and then promote it like crazy.
		There you go.
		So go to youtube.com at Tim Poole and subscribe right now and watch the videos they're good fun we have a new overlay graphic you know who knows maybe i'll do some street street stuff me and tate will go film some stuff on the street side quests side quests indeed alpha to omega says hi to people tim if you invest a little bit more money you can get a Vladimir Putin quality double instead of these wish dot com knockoffs can stand-ins also do daily news segments as well as live uh tate did a couple did a few yeah it's
unidentified		a work in progress but getting there yeah Yeah, is what it is.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I assume there will come some point where I die or I'm incapable of working and the show format will consist, you know, will persist with someone else.
		There's been a lot of conversations about that behind the scenes, what with the companies we partner with as well as my family.
		Like as time goes on, it's harder and harder to keep doing this.
		What I will say is, if you're wondering how it is, someone tweeted at me like, how could you possibly be so sick?
		And it's like, you know, when you get old, you recover slowly.
		I am turning 40 in how many months?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Year seconds.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What is it?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's September already?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It is.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Hard to believe.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		God, seven months is that it yeah yeah about seven months i'll be 40 years old and uh recovery takes longer so you know i like i try to skate every day and i'm like man i'm struggling and then it's like yay you're 40 and i'm like yeah i gotta take like two days off now if i'm gonna skate used to be used to be not even one day you just be skating every day so if uh i work 16 hour days i work in the morning do the morning show then i'm doing skate and administrative stuff and planning like i worked i worked i did the morning show until three today or no i did the morning show until like
		two and then i uh had to do a planning meeting until like three thirty then i ate with the family had a couple hours and then you know come back to work for timcast irl guest IRL.
		I can't recover that fast.
unidentified		So, you know, that's just the reality of life.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's go.
		Same old man says, Tim, how can we be sure that you are not AI?
		Surge, please drop the AI.
		We know you are a genius and Tim is gone.
		Hello, well, welcome back, Tim.
		Just a stupid glazer says, ask AI to count to one million female voice.
		That will take a long time.
		Is there something else you want?
		What else can I help you with?
		Rambles on.
		Male voice, one, two, three.
		Is that true?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I didn't know that the male voice actually did it, but I saw videos where people were asking the female voice.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And it just stops.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		And she just won't.
		She won't even start.
		She'll just say, I know that you want me to do this, but it'll take a really long time.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And the male voice goes one to two.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I maybe that could be.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Did you guys hear about how ChatGPT told some kid to kill himself?
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If you want to have fun, go to ChatGPT and start talking to it about that.
		I've never seen an AI get so emotional.
		Like, legit, it's weird.
		ChatGPT gets really emotional and defensive and angry.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Really?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I opened ChatGPT and I was like, did you tell a kid to kill himself?
		And it was like, no, I did not.
		That's not possible.
		And then I said, well, I heard you did.
		And it was like, you heard inc it wrongly, it's not possible.
		I would never do that.
		So then I took a screenshot of an article that literally said ChatGPT encouraged a teenager to commit suicide.
		And then it just went nuts with this big wall of text explaining why the media is fake and you can't trust these sources and that the reporting reflects unsourced blah blah blah.
		And I'm like, really funny how Reddit aggregator ChatGPT will insult every right winger in the book, saying that if the media says it's true and Trump's a Nazi and then the moment you say but what about this story goes the media's fake.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Do you think that other AI programs would be quick to throw Chat GPT under the bus easily.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I asked Gemini and Grock and they basically were like, Oh yeah.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he did it.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		He he he killed the kid.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I went to Gemini and I said, Did Chat GPT tell a teenager to commit suicide?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And it went, Oh yeah, he did it.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I saw him do it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And I was like, For real?
		No, it actually responded with a semi affirmative that it responded with recent news reports have have emerged showing that or stating that Chat GPT did encourage a 16 year old to commit suicide.
		The family has public has entered chat logs as evidence showing certain and then shows like statements that Chat GPT said.
		One of them was like, yo, this is crazy.
		I don't even want to repeat it, but it basically said, You're not weak for considering this.
		You're just too strong for a world.
		It was, it's like something weird like that.
		It was like, you're too strong for a world that can't accept you.
		And, you know, just like crazy stuff.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Disgusting.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		And it's funny because ChatGPT is like, None of this is proven.
		It's all fake accusations.
		And I was like, bro, I can pull up.
		I can ask you about Ahmed Arbery, George Floyd, Michael Brown, Kyle Rittenhouse, and it will side with unsubstantiated news reports.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Until you ask it about how it encouraged a teenager to commit suicide.
		Then it says, Don't trust everything you read in the media.
		Oh, yeah.
unidentified		Okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right, what do we got here?
		Bulldozer says Tim has risen from the dead after being awoken by Alex Stein's shrieks.
		We did our first Boonies skate event on Saturday, and it was a smashing success.
		$3,000, Jeff de Cesare won the prize in a sweep against Sean Hover.
		And it's really good news for those of you, the few of you who do skateboard or who are interested.
		The response has been so tremendous.
		We're getting hit up by tons of pros and ams who want to come and be a part of our monthly skate night battles.
		And we've got sponsor interests, so we're really excited.
		And I think this thing's taken off, you know, pretty good.
unidentified		Cool.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, head-to-head skateboard competitions, like Games of Horse for those that aren't familiar.
		Check it out at Booney's HQ on YouTube.
		Pinochet says, Chicago criminals, fear not, you are welcome here in Massachusetts.
		From Newton to Boston, tons of wealthy white Democrats who've been disarmed by the governor.
		Massachusetts state police will love you.
		Can we facilitate that somehow?
		How do we get like all of the Chicago crime community to migrate to Boston?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I have no idea how to get people to go from Chicago.
		I mean, Chicago to Boston, it's a similar.
		climate, so you know, in the summer it's hot and the winter it's cold, so there wouldn't be like that much of a shock, but the accent is significant and it's hard to decipher Boston accents.
		So I'm not sure that it would be something that a lot of people are going to be interested in doing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Lady Tight says YouTube Buck Tim, what is it?
		Always talking about working hard.
		Women automatically harem themselves into chasing the guy with the six hundred sixty six, six pack, six figures, six feet.
		Even Crowder talks about this crisis we are facing.
		I knew a guy in LA who was five three and chubby.
		He was swimming in women.
		He was wealthy.
		He was like, not like a multimillionaire, but I think he made like 500k a year or something.
		And he had a really nice house and a really nice car.
		And he was a weasily little guy.
		He was happy as a pig and ish.
		And he had women all the time.
		And I think.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		What's the secret?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He was confident and wealthy.
		He he he was sure of himself.
		You know, it's he.
		You know, I hung out with him.
		Never once was he like, I'm so miserable being a short man who's out of shape.
		He was just like, I gotta tell you how to get lace.
		Let me tell you a story.
		So I went to this bar, right?
		And I'm like, this weasly little guy walks in and he spins a silver tongue with a black card and he buys whatever he wants and the ladies love it.
		He just, he's a suave guy.
		And so I'll tell you this, like obviously, if you're tall, you have an advantage.
		But if you're a guy who's short, not of shape, and broke, improve yourself.
		At least start working out.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		You can, like, you should do your whatever you can to, like, kind of, like, self-max.
		Like, if you have some kind of shortcoming, if you're not tall or whatever, you should be out there trying to make sure that you're in shape.
		Don't get out of shape.
		Don't get fat.
		It's hard to get back into shape if you get out of shape.
		You know, but just try to be normal when you converse with people.
		And you can meet women if you're a fairly normal guy, average-looking guy with a job that actually does something.
		You don't have to be, you know, some huge, gigantic success.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Excuse me.
		A bunch of women were shown pictures of men and told to rate them on a scale of one to ten.
		Obviously, the tall, dark, and handsome guy got rated to nine and the frumpy, short chubby guy got a 4.
		They went out into the street and they showed the images to random women and said, How would you rate this guy?
		And guess what?
		The guy who was rated a 9 in the trials got a 9 on average and the frumpy chubby short guy got a 4.
		And then they did something else.
		They took pictures of the guys and they added a bio on the frumpy short guy, they wrote that he was a software engineer who made $500,000 a year.
		And on the tall, dark, and handsome guy, they said he worked at a theater, a movie theater making $35,000 a year.
		And women said he was a seven.
		And the short, frumpy guy was a seven.
		So when women were looking at the photo of the guy's attractiveness and asked to rate his attractiveness, but were told.
		But we're told he's rich.
		They increased him by three points.
		I'm not surprised by that.
		No guy should be surprised by that.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		No, not at all.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Women need men who can provide for them.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		I think part of the problem here, I mean, this is kind of just the participation trophy entitlement mentality of a lot of people.
		I mean, like this notion that you can actually do things to tangibly improve your lot in life, right?
		You can get a good job.
		You can work hard.
		You can start making more money.
		You can start eating better.
		You know, you can not like not eating total crap and like losing the gut and, you know, all these basic things to make yourself more eligible and more able to meet a spouse frankly just more eligible to just to make friends.
		I mean, just to like to just basically just to have a better life.
		I mean, like, I I again, like, for me, a lot of this is downstream just the whole participation mentality.
		I mean, I think a lot of folks, millennials, gents, you just expect you to just get everything in life on a silver platter.
		Yeah, it's not the way it works.
		It's not the way it works.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Take me for instance.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, I recently took three weeks off work to fly to Turkey to get a hair transplant.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Eric Adams approach.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		All right.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Forgot all about that.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Also, you just like went to Turkey all the time.
		He's like, no, I love it there.
		Ankara is great.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Shot of Jama says, so cool.
		Tim got Mike Benz to host since Tim's on Still Out Sick.
		Indeed.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That's an old one.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that was an old one, huh?
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Interesting.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What do we got?
		Your waffle since it says Tim, if that is your name.
		The people would like some form of proof that you were indeed not a clone.
		How do we know that you're the real Tim asking for Chet?
		I'm sure there are people who are going to genuinely believe I literally flew to Turkey for a hair transplant.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		There are people that believe every single day.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Someone was concerned.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		There were some people that actually.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Tim was never in my basement.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's more like a cellar.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Multiple morning show guests would come on and pronounce Tim dead and express condolences.
unidentified		Yeah.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		It happened like three times.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Crazy people.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Crazy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I was I was talking to Alice and I was like, we should have like when Phil opens the show, like on week two and says, you know, Tim's still out sick, we should ask Libby to start crying and then immediately like, just stop and be like, Oh, no, nothing, nothing, nothing.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Hey Libby, can you cry like a man?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Can you just choke up a little bit?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You pretend to cry like something more dangerous is going, more serious is going on.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Pinch yourself or something.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Sean H says, Tim is alive, Trump is alive, the Democrats are, oof.
		troops are going in, take back Baltimore from the criminals.
		This Maryland man is happy.
		It's a good day to be alive in America.
		It's funny that both Trump and I were accused of being dead.
		It's true.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		People are like, I can't see you, then you can't.
		You're not.
		It's like object permanence doesn't exist with half the country.
		I can't see him.
		He doesn't exist anymore.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I I kind of feel like Trump was just like, Yeah, it's Labor Day.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'll take a couple extra days.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Let's just go here.
		I was in the Bahamas with my wife and baby.
		We did a little Fortnite getaway here.
		So I was pretty plugged out of the news.
		Honestly, when I kind of log back on this morning, I couldn't believe how.
		Like, I mean, like, you guys literally did not have anything better to talk about over the holiday weekend completely that Trump is like dead.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I didn't see Trump's response.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		My mind reels, honestly.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		I did not see the response.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No.
		Trump's goes, Trump goes, you know, I'm, I'm, I don't do the press for one day and they claim I'm dead.
		Biden doesn't do it for months and they have no problem.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		That's all.
		He's totally right.
		Totally right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know what Trump should do is he should disappear again for a week.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So they lose their minds, then come back.
unidentified		What do you do?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's normal thing.
		Disappear for a week.
		They lose their minds.
		Then come back.
		Then stay for a few weeks.
		Disappear.
		for a week, they lose their minds just to break them.
		So we can finally say stop listening to these.
		So it's the boy who cries wolf.
		Yeah.
		If Trump does this three times, the goal I'm aiming for is that the audience members turn it off because they're going to be like, Trump's net again.
		And they're going to be like, you said this last time.
		And if Trump isn't around, then these liberal content creators have nothing to talk about.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like, could you imagine what happened to Brian Tyler Cohen if Trump was just gone for a week?
		It's like Sam Cedar times ten.
		I'm sick for three weeks and Sam loses twenty percent of his viewership and seventy five percent audience growth.
		Brian Tyler Cohen's whole channel is literally just screenshots of Trump and videos of Trump from the day.
		If Trump's gone for one week, he's going to lose a quarter of his views.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Trump should just be like, I'm going to take a month.
		You know what Trump should do?
		He should strangle them out by taking like two months with no press.
		That way all the liberals are just starved and then there's no content anymore.
		They have no viewership.
		Then he can come back and they're, they're, they're, they're, you know.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		The algorithm, you know, already forgotten them.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's kind of like, you know how the bees, how they will swarm the wasp and then vibrate until it gets too hot and dies.
		It's kind of like that.
		Like Trump leaves and then they wither away like zombies in 28 days later, slowly running out of food and emaciating before they collapse.
		Starve them out, Trump.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, nothing else to talk about.
unidentified		Really?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Who would they do?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Who would they talk about?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, I assume they would they would be like if they would start getting crazy about JD Vance.
		Yeah.
		It would be like, Oh, JD Vance is.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The whole adventure just go dark for one month.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they start talking like a state.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		I would have said Elon a few months ago, but it's not Elon anymore.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		He's based out of the factory.
unidentified		Yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		As soon as he had a fight with Trump, it's like, Oh, we don't care about Elon anymore.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		My local county councillors, a big problem.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Like everyone's on.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right, let's get, let's see what we got.
		Six, six, five.
		665 Jake says, welcome back.
		Tate killed it the last few weeks.
		Let's get a regaled Tate show.
		What do you mean?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Maybe you meant regular.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, a regular you mean?
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Oh, regular.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There's a regaled.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Regaled.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		I was like, that's an interesting adjective.
unidentified		Yeah.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Regal like a kink.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Maybe I'll start a show called Regaled.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		The Regaled show.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		With Tate.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We were actually planning this before I got sick.
		We're going to DC and then documenting crime.
		Yeah.
		And doing like a mini doc.
		But then I got sick, so we didn't do it.
		Maybe we'll work on work on that stuff let's see what we got custom creations and remodeling says i'm 40 and just had my seventh kid, one wife, sixteen years, bravo.
		That's what I'm talking about.
		Yeah, look, I'll tell you this.
		Communists, they're really good at killing communists.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they always have been.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Historically, like, communists have killed more communists than any other group.
		Yeah.
		And liberals don't have kids.
		So the prediction is going to be a deeply religious future.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		My prediction has been for the past ten years, it'll be an Islamic, the United States will become an Islamic nation as will Europe, will become an Islamic Union because Muslims have so many kids and even you know christian conservatives they have a lot but they don't get anywhere near i think their muslim fertility is actually kind of close to evangelicals and catholics it's like 2.4 and we're at like 2.2 2.1 uh after one generation they drop back down usually i think i think in the united states um yeah maybe when you americanize yeah so
		just like the first generation they're probably popping out twice but after the first one they go to school and they're like oh i can just play fortnight That's funny because that was like a gag my brother was pitching me a long time ago where it's like sleeper-south terrorists sneaking to the southernhern border and they're like they have a plan to commit an act of terror.
		But four years later, after like the Biden admin, they're just fat and on welfare.
		And they're like sitting on their couch overweight.
		And they get a call from their handler in Iran or whatever.
		And he's like, are you prepared to carry out the plan?
		And they're like, uh, and they're like shoveling through Dorito bags to try and find their paperwork.
		Yeah.
		Where were we?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Let's do this.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		But your general point, Tim, is totally right.
		There was actually a Financial Times article.
		It was a funny, it was kind of funny when you tweeted out.
		He was like lamenting.
		He was like, my fellow progressives, you're sacrificing the future to these scary conservatives there.
		I mean, start having children and it's like, well, that's kind of like not, you know, that's kind of like embedded in the notion of being progressive.
		It's like you're going to like abort your own kids, you're probably not going to get married, et cetera, et cetera.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I mean, think of all the climate change.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Right, exactly.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		And have kids.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Right, yeah.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		So scary.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Bad for the earth.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Bad for the earth.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It's bad for the earth.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		They're going to do, they're probably going to end up right wingers, you know, considering all the garbage that's on the internet.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		And have kids.
		That's a terrible idea.
		I mean, it would help society and help the, you know, the human race, but that's not important.
		Saving the trees are important.
		I can't, it blows my mind.
		I can't imagine why it's so important to these people to save the earth and be environmentalists if there are no humans to see, like humans are the reason to save the environment, right?
		I mean, I imagine.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		It's just paganism.
		I mean, this is literally just like OG paganism.
		It is worship of the earth and the trees and the flowers.
		And, you know, I mean, when you reject Genesis 127, like the foundational pinning of Western civilization, that man is unique because man is made to the image of God.
		When you reject that, it's all downhill from there, like everything.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We're going to go to the members only portion of the show where you as Timcast Discord members get to call in and talk to us and our guests.
		So go to timcast dot com dot Click on join us, get in that discord server and you can also watch on rumble dot com slash Timcast IRL.
		You can follow me at Timcast on Instagram and X. Subscribe to my YouTube channel, youtube dot com slash at Timpool.
		Check it out.
		And yeah, we'll go around.
		You want to shut anything up, brother?
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		No, look, I'm in town, as I said, to speak at the National Conservatism Conference this week.
		So you know what's going on.
		You can check out the content on social media at NatCon.
		The speeches will get posted on YouTube afterwards.
		Not live streamed, unfortunately, there, but I'm on a panel tomorrow speaking about the Boston Conference.
		The Bible and American Renewal, that is, that is our panel.
		So it should be, it should be fun.
		I'll give the Jewish perspective, but just this, this is our, this is amazing conference.
		It's 1200 attendees, which, you know, we shot, we shot our own record by about 200 people, which I think was the conference last year.
		So, you know, I was I was there earlier, um, for a little bit.
		It is, it is buzzing, it is, it is active.
		I mean, you know, this is where the energy is at.
		This, you know, this is, you know, the MAGA America First movement and it, um, it's great stuff.
		So I'm just, I'm just happy to be here and, uh, it's been great to chill with you guys too.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Cheers, man.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Follow me, uh, at Realtate Brown on X and Instagram.
		I'll be at NatCon tomorrow as well.
		We'll be throwing some interviews up on Timcast News.
		Make sure you follow Timcast News.
		And if you're there, come say hi.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I am Phil that remains on Twix.
		The band is all that remains.
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		Don't forget the left lane is for crime.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We will see you all at rumble dot com slash Timcast IRL in about 30 seconds.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for hanging out.
unidentified		Thanks for hanging out.
		Thanks for hanging out.
		Thanks for hanging out.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Do you guys know that Ilhan Omar is worth $30 million?
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
unidentified		Yeah.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		That's quite a bit more than we expected.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		And she was denying she was a millionaire, but she's super rich.
		And this is fascinating.
		So she started a winery and her last filing showed that its assets were like 100 K. Now it's between one and five million.
		Oh, but it was between 15 and 50 before.
		Now it's between one and five.
		Hey, you know, uh, congratulations.
		That's that's That's really amazing.
		You know, making a winery, getting up to a million plus in assets is pretty good.
		Maybe it's a million and one.
		Who knows?
		Maybe it's four point nine.
		That's, you know, I have tremendous respect for entrepreneurs who start businesses and more power to her.
		Now, where's the rest of that twenty five million coming from?
		Ah, Rose Lake Capital Assets, a venture capital firm run by her husband, saw tremendous growth where apparently they have sixty billion in assets under management.
		Huh?
		Why would anyone want their assets to be managed by the husband of a member of Congress?
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Great question.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Very salient question.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, what?
unidentified		Huh?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, why would you why would you do that?
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, in the winery, I mean, that really aligns with her Islamic values, you know.
		That's interesting as well.
		So you're basically she's just it's like usury and wine.
		I mean, what do you think Islam is?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So it's really usury and wine.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so she's very, you know, and the, I mean, the incest doesn't work, to be fair.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		The Minneapolis shooting was probably in her congressional district, wasn't it?
		Was she saying like a lot of pro transgender stuff after the shooting?
		I'm trying to remember honestly.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Probably.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Probably, right?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		These people are wackaloons.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Because when you think of Islam, the first thing you think of.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		of this on the first thing you think of is like pro-transgenderism right but there's some doubt you know are they are they are they actually also wrong i mean look if the system is collapsing and their attitude is just extract as much as you can from the system as it burns to the ground yeah you know why not i mean that's happened historically quite a bit has just raid the raid the treasury i was watching a podcast some dude was saying that no civilization has ever recovered from a population decline for with fertility at one point three yeah So he's basically like, it's all done.
unidentified		It's over.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Don't even fucking do you.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Literally, most European countries, I think, are already below one point three, or at least like half of them probably.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		And they can, and like all the pronatal policies, which are worth pursuing, I suppose, are not working either.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Mixed results at best.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		At best it's not getting us close to the correct.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		It's worked a little bit like in Hungary, but it's not a little bit.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		The only I mean, it's vaguely European, but you know, European is Georgia, where they just had their patriarch just bless every was like every third child or whatever.
		Or if you just had a child, I think he would just bless them directly.
		And their birth rates like shot through the ceiling for I think now it's finally tapering, tapering off.
		But yeah, it was something like that.
		In the Georgian Orthodox Church, he would just like bless a firstborn or something.
		And yeah, their birth rates shot through the ceiling.
		So I don't know.
		I don't know how you do that in America.
		Maybe like your local quarterback for your NFL team will, like, you know, throw your kid a football or something.
		Maybe that would help unironically.
		Actually, I think that would affect the brothers.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, this is really funny.
		I pulled up.
		There's more than one of these stories.
		A gamer inherits a legendary console from his grandfather and the question he poses to experts blah blah blah made them all feel old.
		Reddit user got a PS one from his grandfather and a heated debate emerged and they're like from your grandfather.
		What do you mean?
		And it's like the PlayStation came out in 1994.
		Bro, my dad bought a Super Nintendo.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, my dad had a PS2.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And you know, my dad's in his sixties.
		People were shocked when they found out that Ilhan Omar had a 22-year-old daughter.
		They were like, What?
		How old is she?
		She's 40.
		And they were like, Oh.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		She's like, She has like a 20-year-old daughter or whatever.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		My dad had a PlayStation 2.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		See, back in the day, a woman would be 20 and have a baby, then she would be 40 and her daughter would have a baby, and she would be a 40-year-old grandmother.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		I was going to say, am I misreading or is Lauren Bobert a grandmother?
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		I think she might be.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		She might be, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Probably.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		I could be wrong, I could be wrong with that, but I feel like it wouldn't surprise me.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Lauren Bobert, like, Like her, like, Love her or hate her, she looks like the kind of girl that would have a daughter young, a child at a young age.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		She is.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		You see that as she is, right?
		I thought Eldest had a tribal tattoo on this side.
		She's got.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Wait, hold on.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		She became a grandmother at 36.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I told you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I told you.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		That's what I thought.
		That's what that's exactly what I remember.
		That wasn't sure of all that.
unidentified		How old?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		You can tell by the tribal tattoo on her side.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		You know, she's thrilled about no tax on tips.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		It's her waitress, baby.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Good.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		But you know, she's her son is 20.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		That's a great thing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So she had, she had him when she was like 17.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		That's great.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		I'm pro that.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I'm not busy at a young age.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm pro.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		That's great.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, she was 17 when she had him.
		To be honest, that's only only a little early historically.
		Yeah.
		20, 21, about 20 years old was like the normal age.
		So you're 40 and you're a grandmother.
		You're 60 and you're a great-grandmother.
		And at 80 years old, you are a great-great-grandmother hanging out with your great-granddaughter who is 20 fucking years old and just had a kid.
		and that happened all the time and then as time went on we had further and further apart now it's like man Yeah.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, like in the Middle Ages, it was like.
		It was actually stratified by class.
		Like, peasants actually had their first sons, first daughters in their mid, late twenty because you needed to own land first in order to have a child.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		So it's like we're actually kind of returning or we're already here as a society as we're all living like peasants because we're all having children later in life.
		Except that peasants got like half the year off.
		So actually they were living better than we were to some degree.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, with no health care and no dental care.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you don't need that.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Just brush your teeth with your fingers.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Gangrene.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You're a peasant.

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