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It is the end of the Howard Stern show after decades.
At least that's what the reports are claiming.
It's not guaranteed that a show actually ends.
But according to The Sun, an inside source says that Sirius is not going to renew his contract, and they're expected to make an offer that he must refuse.
Just backwards, but I guess the idea is ain't nobody wants to pay this guy $100 million.
And they're saying politics seems to have played a role.
Guys, whether you're Colbert, Howard Stern, you cut your audience in half.
What are you doing?
Now, I guess it's the nature of the game.
I mean, obviously, we here at Timcast are partisan as well.
It's different when you were never the king of the castle, though, and you just are where you are.
But this is iconic.
If Howard Stern is not re-upped and this is the end, then that's the end of an era for whatever, for better or for worse.
We'll talk about that.
Plus, my friends, the WNBA, more money is being bet on the color of the being thrown in the courts, if you know what I mean, than the actual games themselves.
And we've actually pulled up some of the polymarket, and oh boy, seems like people are choosing to win this on their own, if you know what I mean.
We will break that down.
We have some updates on the Texas situation with the Democrats who have fled and an evacuation from Antarctica.
A bunch of crazy stories.
Arson at an ice facility.
Hey, man, there's so much crazy stuff.
It just, it never ends, huh?
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Scott Greer.
scott greer
Thanks for having me on, Tim.
tim pool
Who are you?
What do you do?
scott greer
I am a writer and podcaster and a, well, they used to say a Twitter influencer, but it's now an ex-influencer.
And that, and I have a new book coming out next year, but I can't reveal the details yet.
So it's highly confidential.
But my sub stack is highly respected, and that's my primary thing.
tim pool
Is it called highly respected, or are you telling us that it is?
scott greer
No, my sub stack is called highly respected.
tim pool
Oh, I thought you were just bragging.
scott greer
Well, I'm both.
I'm both.
I am both highly respected, and that's the name of, hence the name of my sub stack.
tim pool
Right on, thanks for hanging out.
Producer Tate's here.
tate brown
Producer Tate is here.
Me and Tim, we actually bonded earlier.
He fed me some very, very hot wings, and I was down for the counter.
It was a radio.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So it was grim.
I was down.
tim pool
His face was swollen.
tate brown
Yeah, I was near death, actually.
It was kind of like a spiritual experience.
I think that's kind of like the working class ayahuasca trip where it's like take some hot wings, a little tiling on, and then you like start seeing things.
tim pool
So if he gets up in the middle of the show, you'll know why.
The back half of that experience hasn't happened yet.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
We're getting there.
tim pool
Brett's hanging out.
brett dasovic
Guys, yes, Brett.
Normally, pop culture crisis Monday through Friday, but we actually did an article yesterday.
We did a topic yesterday about people talking about meeting their spouses on Substack.
Have you ever seen that happen?
scott greer
No.
unidentified
Definitely not on my Substack.
scott greer
It's a heavily male demographic, I'll say.
brett dasovic
We got to find a more gender-neutral substack.
scott greer
That's true.
I do.
I don't know where the female demographic is on Substack, but maybe they're out there somewhere.
tim pool
Someone in chat said, wait, Tim fed them to you.
I did.
I said, open up, here comes the airplane.
He loved it.
phil labonte
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It's happened.
Legitimately has happened.
So sign up.
tim pool
No, this is not a joke.
phil labonte
Sign up for Discord.
tim pool
The best selling point for young men who are, it's like, we need to get members.
How do we do it?
Just point out that we've had like three couples meet and get married on the Discord, and then young male come flocking.
phil labonte
Build a family.
Hello, everybody.
My name is Phil LeBonte.
I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains.
I'm an anti-communist and counter-revolutionary.
Let's get into it.
tim pool
Here's the big story.
It's been trending all day, my friends.
Bye-bye, Bowie.
The Howard Stern show to be canceled after nearly 20 years on Sirius XM as a $100 million contract is up later this year.
Now, this is the crazy thing.
It's not confirmed.
They're saying that his contract is up.
And according to an insider, they're going to offer him a deal.
He has no choice but to refuse.
So I guess the argument is they're going to offer him such little money that he's going to be like, no, I can't take that and then retire.
Dude, 71.
I just want to take the opportunity to say this.
I know the Howard Stern fans are going to get mad, and there are many, but irrespective of Howard Stern, to all the boomers in their 70s and 80s, retire.
Just go.
Just leave Congress.
phil labonte
Okay.
tim pool
This is what I can't stand.
Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi.
These people are 7,000 years old and they will not leave.
The younger generation will never step up unless they are pushed out of that tree.
Okay.
And so long as Howard Stern and all these old people refuse to just take their retirement, dude, you got $100 million plus.
You are rich as rich can be.
We don't need you here anymore.
Okay.
You can go.
Plus, you're a shell of your former self.
Now, what's really interesting is that they say in the article that it seems like politics absolutely plays a role in this.
I would assume, much like Stephen Colbert.
I don't know, they're just talking about his getting married to the bottom.
They say that at some point in the article, here you go.
After you saw what happened to Colbert, it's like they just can't afford to keep him going.
Another source said Stern's political leanings are also not working in his favor.
If Sirius isn't going to give Stern a good offer, I don't think it would have anything to do with his ratings.
It's more likely everything to do with the political climate.
That's amazing.
Dude decided to go full Democrat, full woke, full, you know, oh no, I can't defend you because according to reports, he didn't want to offend his A-lister buddies.
unidentified
Yeah.
brett dasovic
Doesn't seem like he needed to do that either.
What's interesting is like, it would have been weird.
I think we were talking about before this show.
Like if he was still doing the shock jock thing, like into his 60s and he's like, he's pulling out his AARP card while doing the same type of crap he was doing when he was in his 30s.
That wouldn't work either.
But that's not the same thing as kind of planting your flag politically and turning it into something that it doesn't need to be.
Like you can do a political stuff that still leans into the audience that's there for like drive time radio.
But he also has like well over 100 employees and he's like of that contract.
I think I saw estimates anywhere from 77 to 200, 25 to 35 on the main production team and plenty more for post-production and after.
So with that many writers, that many producers, like that's the same thing with Colbert, right?
Like they have these huge contracts, but he's paying those employees out of those contracts.
Like every time you see Stephen Colbert do a bit where he holds up like some article or something, you're like some dude had to paste that out there and that dude probably makes $150k a year to do like one thing.
So it's just that the art form itself is different and the way it's done now, it's modernized and it's been streamlined.
phil labonte
I do wonder if you guys think that the situation with Howard Stern is because people have gone to different formats for their entertainment, you know, podcasts as opposed to listening to XM Radio or any kind of radio now.
Or if you think that it's something to do with the fact that he's gotten so soft and predictable in his old age.
scott greer
I think it's probably all the factors.
I mean, you got to think about Howard Stern, how he became big and all those shock talks and talk radio hosts.
I mean, because it was, he came up at the same time of Rush Lumball and Rush Lumball when he first came out was considered a shock jock himself, much more so and saying more offensive things that he would say 30 years later.
But all these guys came out and they were speaking for the man on the street and saying the things that he wished he could say with Howard Stern, whether it was more inappropriate humor or with Rush Limbaugh saying politically incorrect things.
They're all speaking for that man on the street who's coming back from a hard work or a hard day at work at the construction site or something.
These were not meant to be liberal people who wanted to hear the same rants they heard from MSNBC.
And now what he is, he's just old and sounds like an angry MSNBC viewer.
And no one wants to listen to that on their way back home.
And if the liberals who are there, they're listening to podcasts.
They're not listening to Howard Stern.
And they think he's a male chauvinist and a pig.
They don't care about his new turn.
They want somebody else.
So there's not really that much of an audience for him anymore.
unidentified
Yeah.
brett dasovic
And the only people that have Sirius XM just bought cars and they have the three-month free subscription.
And Phil.
phil labonte
Yeah.
brett dasovic
And Phil has Sir.
phil labonte
Yeah, I do.
Fox News.
That's why.
But it's worth the low price.
So that way you can listen to Brett Baer.
brett dasovic
I think they said that at his highest, his audience was 20 million listeners or 20 million viewers.
And now it's down to like 125,000.
phil labonte
Remember at the time, you're still dealing with a situation where he was, he kind of had a captive audience, right?
There weren't so many options.
You didn't have cell phones or computers in your pocket where you could stream whatever you wanted to at any given time.
It was, okay, it's Howard Stern or whoever is competing with Howard Stern in that time slot in the car.
That was it.
You only had the radio.
So 20 million people, sure, it was huge, absolutely.
But it was because of, or at least partly because of the fact that the options were so limited.
brett dasovic
That's what it was with TV.
Like the worst TV show in 1998 got ratings that would absolutely obliterate anything that's coming out right now.
tim pool
Oh, dude.
brett dasovic
Like they would get canceled.
tim pool
It was getting 20 million.
brett dasovic
Like shows in the 90s would get canceled on the numbers of the greatest television show of the year in 2025.
tim pool
I mean, there was a bunch of shows that I liked on Fox that it was like the show wasn't doing well enough.
It was only getting six or seven million.
brett dasovic
Yeah.
tim pool
And today it's like 200,000.
brett dasovic
They said that about the X-Files.
It was like only 10 million viewers per episode.
tim pool
That's crazy.
But it was because you were comparing to everybody else.
Now it's wild to think that there will never be another Howard Stern.
There will never be not even like even like Bill Maher, even where Tucker Carlson was.
They're not getting that back.
And it's funny because Fox News has this big viewership.
But with all due respect to the Fox crew, their viewers are 70.
To be fair, slightly younger than MSNBC and CNN.
They're like 68.
But still, Howard Stern, like, okay, let's try this.
What was the average age of a Howard Stern listener in like the 90s?
When was his peak?
It was like the 90s, right?
scott greer
Probably in their 30s.
tim pool
Yeah.
So they're in their mid to late 60s now.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
They're not buying stuff.
They already, they likely own several homes.
Not all of them, but many of them.
That's boomers.
They do.
A lot of corporate equities.
What is he selling to them?
What's he selling?
What product is he selling to them?
phil labonte
No idea.
tim pool
So the advertisers would come to Howard Stern or Sirius.
I got to be honest.
I don't know anybody who has Sirius.
Do you?
brett dasovic
Phil.
phil labonte
Me.
You have Sirius?
I do.
I have it in my.
tim pool
Well, you're old, though.
phil labonte
Yeah, I am old.
scott greer
I've got old people do love Sirius.
phil labonte
I got it for Fox News.
That's literally the only thing I listen to in the car is the news.
tim pool
But Fox News.
phil labonte
Yeah, Fox News.
tim pool
Just want to hear that sweet Jesse Waters.
phil labonte
Well, I like Rhett Bear.
tim pool
There's Jesse Waters, but all right.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
Jesse Waters.
tim pool
I'm just trying to butter up Jesse because I'm going to the show soon.
phil labonte
Oh, are you?
There you go.
Jesse, you're great.
We love you.
tate brown
Sirius has like 30 soft rock channels.
It's like ridiculous.
scott greer
Yeah, they literally have every boomer music genre possibly.
You have like a yacht rock.
phil labonte
I will not.
Yacht rock is great.
I will not let anyone dog out Yacht Rock.
It is wonderful.
scott greer
We're not criticizing it.
We're just saying that the primary audience for it is not in their 20s and 30s.
phil labonte
Definitely not.
tate brown
The bumper for the Yacht Rock channel.
It's your pillows are monogrammed.
unidentified
Aren't they?
phil labonte
Old.
Awesome.
scott greer
So that's what Howard Stern now has to compete with.
He's got to compete with 30 channels dedicated to all the boomers' favorite music genres.
And does MSNBC even have a channel on Sirius?
phil labonte
I believe they do, yes.
scott greer
But it probably doesn't get nearly the amount of traffic that Fox News is.
phil labonte
I believe you're correct.
brett dasovic
You have to go watch the Howard Stern interview with Biden from like last year.
phil labonte
Oh, yeah.
brett dasovic
Biden looks dead.
He looks like he's been stuffed and he's just being held up there by like some type of like wires.
He doesn't even look alive.
And Howard Stern is just glazing him.
tim pool
I like to imagine that there's some kind of shadow monster that we can't is imperceptible and it's holding Biden up and it's got this gigantic grin and it's like, you know, like maybe like Ryuk from Death Note or something.
That's a good way to explain it.
tate brown
Oh, yeah, sir.
tim pool
I was going to say, the thing about Howard Stern, along with all of all of these other shows that target 70-year-olds, it's the only Democrat that hates Trump.
So if Howard Stern does get canceled, what's that going to do to the pro and anti-Trump narrative?
brett dasovic
All those people protesting in Charlestown are just going to be crushed.
tim pool
Bro, they're all like 70.
Yeah, no, but there's sometimes more, but they're like 70.
phil labonte
They're all old.
tim pool
It's so crazy.
brett dasovic
But I think of Howard Stern as like representative of Gen X for some reason.
Like nothing fun, bro.
scott greer
Yeah, he's a Gen X. I mean, he is a boomer, but his audience, I think, would have been.
brett dasovic
Like, I think, like, when did Private Parts come out?
Like, 1999 or something like that?
I think, I think of him as making content for Gen X, not boomers.
tate brown
Yeah.
scott greer
But he lost his Gen Xers because all those people are like pro-Trump and don't want a liberal lecturing them from this.
They want funny jokes.
They want light-hearted humor.
They don't want to hear a screed from what he just watched in MSNBC, which it is what it is now.
It's not funny.
It's the same with Colbert.
Colbert wasn't funny at all.
brett dasovic
Boomers love to have comedy done by people who did blackface back in the day.
Howard Stern and who's the other?
Was it Jimmy Kim?
Jimmy Kimball.
Yeah, they love dudes who did Blackface back in the day.
phil labonte
Yeah, Sarah Silver wore the Nazi outfit with the Swazi, like actually not like a fake one or whatever.
It was legit the Swazi.
brett dasovic
It's like, where did you get that?
phil labonte
I mean, it used to be where people didn't freak out about that.
tim pool
Honestly, I bet you could get it in any Hollywood costume shop.
brett dasovic
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, I told the story when I went to Austin.
We went to an antique store.
It's like a famous antique store.
And the dude working behind the counter had a keychain with swastika on it.
They had a whole section of swastikas.
And I was just kind of like looking at everything, like, what is going on in this place?
And I went to the guy and I asked him, and he said, he got, he got almost offended.
I was like, how come you got swastikas everywhere?
And he got kind of mad and he was like, this was not the Nazis.
Okay.
This was a symbol used in America and around the world.
And he was like, before the Nazis took it.
And I was like, whoa, whoa, okay, dude.
Like, I was like, okay, man.
phil labonte
If you want to find Nazi memorabilia, go to gun shows.
No kidding around.
scott greer
Have you seen the just a free speech symbol there?
phil labonte
No, they're just like, man, I like World War II.
brett dasovic
Have you seen the meme of doks from Dexter?
It's like the I can't prove it meme where he's making the face at Dexter like this.
And the one that says, like, when my mailman sees that I order so much stuff from World War IImemorabilia.com.
tate brown
Yeah, the swastika screwed me over in college because my roommates were Hindu.
So they had like.
unidentified
No.
phil labonte
Oh, man.
tate brown
Yeah.
My RA walks in.
He's like, dude, what?
I was like, they're Hindu.
scott greer
It's not religious.
brett dasovic
And it's like halfway in the room.
So it's like kind of on your side of the table.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
I'm like, I could explain.
unidentified
No.
phil labonte
And now you just be like, what?
tate brown
Yeah.
phil labonte
What?
tim pool
All right, everybody.
Here we go.
We've got huge news from the post-millennial.
More money is being bet on lady toys at the WNBA than on the games themselves.
I kid you not.
So we checked this.
Polymarkets got a tweet up.
They said, breaking WNBA getting betting volume on adult lady toys surpasses betting volume for who will win the game.
And so I immediately pulled this one up when you Google search it.
And it says another lady toy thrown at WNBA game by August 10th.
But the funny thing is, it is August 6th.
And I couldn't help but notice it has greater than 99% chance, which means it literally happened.
And yes, it literally happened.
People are now, they put a ban on bags because everybody is bringing these lady toys and just chucking them on the court.
Who was it?
Like Sophie Cunningham was like, stop throwing dildos at us because you're going to get us hurt.
brett dasovic
And then she tweeted, yeah.
phil labonte
Yeah, she tweeted.
That didn't work out.
brett dasovic
She got hit with one.
Did she really?
Maybe she like that's where she was targeted.
phil labonte
Yeah, she was a poor thing.
tim pool
For real, I got to pull that up.
tate brown
Oh, yeah, yeah.
It was right at her feet.
brett dasovic
I couldn't tell she was just being a good sport about it.
tate brown
I'm waiting for security is going to jump on it like a grenade.
tim pool
So the funny thing is, I saw that it spiked at August 5th at 1045, it jumped to 99.
And I'm like, that means it happened.
And it says the market will resolve yes if a dildo is thrown out of the court during a WNBA game between August 4th and August 10th.
And it says outcome proposed.
Yes.
No dispute.
Final outcome.
Yes.
Yo, they got paid.
Guess what?
Now you can bet on the color.
Oh, no, I'm sorry.
This is the date.
This is the date.
brett dasovic
Have they all been green so far?
tim pool
No, no, I think it's a blue one.
I don't know.
But here's another one.
It's you can make bets on August 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th.
Andy was telling me, my homie here, that you can bet on the color.
But the crazy thing is, if you go on polymarket, okay, and do not do this.
Do not, people listening at home.
But if you want to polymarket right now, okay?
On so as of the 7th, there's a 47% yes.
It will happen.
Okay.
So if you, if you buy yes, okay, if I'm going to just, I'm going to be very careful here.
If a person buys yes for the seventh and then goes to a game and then chooses of their own volition to huck a dildo on the court, they will have won that bet, guaranteeing they will double their money.
Do not do this.
But that's what's so dumb about this is being able to make a bet on something you can control the outcome of.
You know, just as an aside, I remember when we were hanging out with Cassandra in the, I think it was Super Bowl this year or last year, and you can bet on the color of the Gatorade as they do every year.
And I'm like, that means that there are people who chose the color or saw the color, can't just go make bets and get free money.
And then what?
This is silly.
This is silly.
But I just want to say the WNBA is a clown show.
It is, you know, look, foxy boxing has its place.
Okay.
You know what you get when you go see Foxy boxing.
brett dasovic
Lingerie football.
tim pool
And lingerie football has its place.
You know what you get.
The problem with this is with the WNBA, you don't even get Foxy boxing.
Like, look, I buy a ticket because I want to see Caitlin Clark boom, just battered and beaten, right?
That's what people are paying tickets for.
I'm not even joking.
I'm being somewhat facetious, but people literally are watching these compilation videos on YouTube of Caitlin Clark getting beaten.
The problem is, even if that's what you wanted, next thing you know, someone throws a dildo on the court, and it's just next, they're going to bring on an elephant juggling or some nonsense.
brett dasovic
All the stories I've heard about the WNBA in the last two weeks have nothing to do with the actual sport.
It was this.
It was the other stories about this.
It was the story about the lady's wig getting snatched.
And it was Angel Reese saying, you make $1,400 in a week.
I make $1,400 in seven days.
I still have no idea if that was real or not.
When I read a quote, I just assume it's fake.
I have no idea whether that was real or not.
But, you know, they've kind of found their own market here.
You know, none of these people have to actually play good basketball.
phil labonte
No.
brett dasovic
There was something going around this week where Michelle Obama called sports called ESPN reality TV for men.
But this is way funnier than anything that ESPN can do.
tim pool
I do love that family guy joke where they did a cutaway gag to a WNBA game and there's like so-and-so misses another three-pointer but got close.
That's why she commands $60,000 a year.
And then they were like, but Jim, is that amount of money worth it to be so unattractive?
Well, that's for the fan to decide.
And there's an ostrich sitting in the stands.
brett dasovic
It's like the Mavericks mascot makes like twice what they make in a year.
tim pool
Dude, I am offended at the existence of the WNBA.
phil labonte
I can't even.
brett dasovic
Oh, yeah, it was the other one.
It was the pay us what you owe us shirts, which is technically zero, or you actually owe them.
tim pool
Yeah, they give us money back.
Like, I get paid.
phil labonte
I mean, the fact that they say the whole, you know, pay us what you owe us.
It's you'd think that someone would have said, this is a terrible idea.
Like, you're subsidized by the NBA.
So literally, you owe the WNBA money for allowing you to play.
The fact that they get paid is, it's ridiculous.
brett dasovic
It should be pay us what you owe Caitlin Clark because Caitlin Clark's the one that actually brings in money.
tim pool
It's almost like, look, like, I don't think it is her capabilities that is generating the press.
It's her getting beaten.
brett dasovic
I mean, I don't know if I necessarily believe that.
I think that it's that may be true for the online discourse, but she's filling the actual stadiums and they're not showing up.
It's not bum fights for the WNBA.
scott greer
And college.
In college, she became the big star.
Why she just Americans decided to like her.
She was like the girl next door.
It's not the nappy-headed hose that Don Imis famously got in trouble.
A rival of Howard Stern.
It's a normal girl next door.
Everyone can root for her.
And then she gets in the WNBA and the women Don Imis described then took the revenge and are now beating the crap out of her every year.
tate brown
She get the big balls treatment.
scott greer
Yeah, so she gets the big balls treatment every day on the court.
phil labonte
You know, the reasonably attractive WNBA stars are getting deals with Arby's and stuff like that.
scott greer
Yeah, like Marcy Cunningham, we were just talking about it.
tate brown
I think it was her.
It was like after a game or something, they posted a picture of her in a bathing suit and it was like, she had a great game today.
And everyone's like, could you imagine if the Warriors post a picture of Draymond like an Espeedo?
scott greer
They should consider that.
I don't know.
I think Draymond would be up for that, but maybe.
brett dasovic
We did get kind of screwed out of the fact that this didn't happen when Howard Stern was in his prime.
He could be contributing gold material back in the 90s if this was going on.
tim pool
There's a clip that went viral from his show, considering they're talking about canceling him, where he was talking to, I think, was it Anna Nicole?
I can't remember.
But he tells her that he thinks she weighs 300 pounds.
And she's like, Howard.
And then he says something like, if you get on the scale, I'll show you my, if you know what I mean.
He actually goes there.
I'm trying to keep it a little family friendly.
But I'm just thinking to myself, this guy was getting 20 million in the ratings.
Like they were putting him on the radio and he legit said to a woman, I think you weigh 300 pounds, get on the scale and I'll show you my ding-dong.
And that was, that was the 90s.
He was like, what happened to millennials?
Like, just please, did someone like dangle them over a vat of parents?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
But we had this.
We had Howard Starr when we were kids.
brett dasovic
It's South Park too.
tim pool
We had South Park.
Simpsons, family guy.
All of these things were horribly offensive.
And then millennials grew up to be like, don't say naughty words.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, I think that it probably has something to do with the fact that once everyone had the cell phone in their pocket and you could do internet pylons, it became, oh, you know, don't say that.
Don't say these edgy things because you'll have a boatload of people.
And even a boatload of people could be 30 people, but it feels like a lot of people when it's, you know, the same 30 people that are just, you know, consistently filling your timeline with you're a bad person, you're a bad person.
So I think that this probably a lot has to do with the internet.
brett dasovic
You know, corporations still don't understand how that works either.
Like 30 people say bad stuff about your show or your movie or your company and they freak out and then not realizing that there's a hundred thousand more that are not saying anything.
So that math doesn't always work for people.
scott greer
You couldn't be allowed on the air saying that stuff.
I mean, WNBA doesn't even allow their fans to boo or jeer because you're talking about the girl who had her wig pulled off her weave and somebody was making fun of her and they sent security out to escort a fan.
And it's like, can you imagine going to a sporting event where you can't?
Yeah, I don't know if they're really fans.
I just, they just kind of hope that some type of object falls on the court and they can and they can laugh about it.
But I had to escort him out.
tim pool
I have a Simpsons reference for everything.
It's the episode where they're taunting Daryl Strawberry.
You guys remember this one?
And they're like, Strawberry.
And then Marge is like, that's kind of mean.
And they're like, no, mom, they're professional athletes.
They can take it.
And then it shows strawberry crying.
But see, the thing is, the joke was that they actually can take it.
So when the Simpsons were making fun of this, they were like, wouldn't it be funny if they actually could not?
Well, now we have the WNBA.
So I want to give it up to the Simpsons who accurately predicted once again some kind of phenomenon.
They're actually kicking people out for making fun of a woman whose wig got pulled off.
brett dasovic
This happened in baseball this year when a player got like somebody insulted his mom who died like five years earlier and the player got banned for life.
Or the fan got banned for life.
tim pool
That's a little different, I guess.
Yeah.
brett dasovic
I mean, depends the line, I suppose.
I mean, there's a line there, but it's a lot of people are going to say, like, look, you're making millions of dollars a year.
Your job is to be literally a stone.
You should not be, it should not affect your play.
It should not stop gameplay.
scott greer
One of the famous examples was the Eagles when Michael Irvin got a career-ending injury and the Eagles fans celebrated it.
And this is like 25 years ago, and they went nuts.
I mean, that's Eagles fans, but they did not ban all those fans for life, obviously.
Those guys have been probably going to games for life ever since.
tate brown
That happened.
Like, it was the Raptors and Warriors, and it was the NBA Finals, and Kevin Durant popped his Achilles.
It was obvious he was done.
And some of the fans were like, yeah, we're going to actually have a chance of winning now.
And Drake had to do this performative, like, no.
And it was like the funniest thing ever because it was like, everyone's like, no, we have a chance now.
Kevin Rand's hurt.
This is great.
But everyone had to pretend like it was this great tragedy.
Yeah, no one got.
tim pool
We got another.
Wait, I mean, shouldn't this have already been passed?
So WNBA's got another one.
Okay.
So it's as of today.
Okay.
So Polymarket, because someone did throw a dildo already before the 10th, they resolved that and they launched a new one.
Will another one be thrown by Friday?
70% says yes.
So like, here's what's going to happen.
Some dude's going to go in here.
He's going to go, like, I guarantee there's a guy going to a loan shark right now, being like, I need a million dollars.
You give me a million dollars today.
I pay you back tomorrow.
Here's my plan.
And then, you know, actually, I don't think I think you can do 100K.
Let's, what's the max bet?
It doesn't even come up.
Let's just say he's going to do 124,000.
You'll win $40,000.
It goes to a loan shark.
And he's like, I need $124,000 and a dildo.
And I will make you your money back plus $10K.
And they're like, this is so crazy.
What's your plan?
He's going to bet.
He's going to go to an WNBA game.
He's going to walk in, go, hook.
He's going to walk out and he's going to collect.
tate brown
Yeah.
Well, it's not.
This isn't odds of it happening.
It's the 30% chance that security actually takes it.
Because everyone's like, I bet everyone in the same place.
scott greer
They're arresting people, too.
So you have to also save some of that money for bail.
tate brown
Yeah, yeah.
Like, this is risky.
tim pool
Wait, they're arresting people with dildos?
scott greer
Yeah.
The first guy who threw it, they arrested him.
tim pool
Oh, well, I mean, for throwing it.
Yeah, it's a crime.
phil labonte
They don't.
tim pool
But Sir Haver just pointing out if they don't allow you to have your bags in the premise anymore, there's some creative ways people can smuggle those.
brett dasovic
Have you ever seen that famous clip of Kelsey Plum throwing the t-shirt to the top level of the stadium?
Somebody motion captured a dildo onto it.
tate brown
I was at the players start fighting back.
No, I'll show you.
tim pool
I was at, I think it might have been the DNC, or it might have been the RNC.
I was thinking that was at the RNC in Florida, and this is like probably 2015 or something, like some Republican convention.
And I was invited by a friend who was working on one of the campaigns, and I had my backpack with me with my laptop and my computer.
And I got stopped by cops as I was walking.
I was walking around the arena, like taking pictures and stuff, posting on X. And the cops told me that they had to search my bag because someone had smuggled in a double-sided, if you know what I mean.
And I started laughing and I was like, bro, you can take my bag.
I'm a journalist.
I was invited here.
I'm friends with someone working on the campaign.
And they were like, well, to be honest, that's what a person with a double-sided in their bag would say.
And I was like, bro, here you go.
And they looked at it and they're like, okay, all right.
And then they started laughing.
And I started laughing and I was like, bro, are you legit searching everyone's bag to try and find a double-sided dildo?
And they were like, we have to do it, dude.
Like someone posted online or something and now they're all freaking out.
And they were like, someone's going to try and throw it at the stage.
And then I was like, well, I hope you find it, I guess.
Or not.
unidentified
I don't know.
brett dasovic
Like the Bush shoe incident times a thousand.
tim pool
Oh, man, dude.
What is going on?
phil labonte
The Bush shoe incident would definitely not be as funny as a big old wang floppeter.
unidentified
Big ole wang flying.
tim pool
That's wild, man.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Let's jump to the real news, my friends.
I know we're having fun here.
We got this in the Texas Tribune.
Paxton launches investigation into Beto O'Rourke's political group for funding Democrats who left the state.
phil labonte
Yes.
tim pool
Hey, the Attorney General accuses the organization of running a financial influence scheme that convinces Democrats to leave the state.
I say bribery scams.
In a press release, Paxton said the Texas Tribune reporting on Tuesday that O'Rourke's group is funding the travel and fines for the more than 50 Democrats who left Texas this weekend to shut down the legislature.
Bribery.
Do it now.
Lock them up.
If the point of the fine is to deter illicit activities and Beto or Rourke says we'll cover those costs so you have no repercussions, then bribery, because they're taking money in exchange for official duties.
Lock them up.
phil labonte
Look, man, I am for whatever will throw sand in the gears of what the Democrats are trying.
So, yeah, more power to move.
tim pool
What say you, Scott?
Lock them up.
scott greer
Oh, absolutely.
phil labonte
All right.
scott greer
Committed a crime.
You got to arrest them.
Otherwise, they're all going to do that and try to disrupt the will of the people.
I mean, the majority of the people elected the legislators, they passed the redistricting, and the Democrats are actually trying to thwart democracy.
This is the real threat to democracy.
They are subverting the will of the people, and they deserve jail time for that.
phil labonte
Absolutely.
tate brown
Yeah.
It's like, also, how does Beto still have a war chest?
scott greer
Like, we're never going to get rid of him.
He's going to be like a 40 years.
We're still going to hear about Beto.
tate brown
Bribing people.
phil labonte
Yes, we'll take your AR-15s.
brett dasovic
I'm like 45.
tim pool
I love Illinois, Joe.
phil labonte
We're going to take your AR-15.
tim pool
Illinois is the most comical state in terms of gerrymandering because they've gerrymandered to the greatest extent possible.
They could not gerrymander anymore.
And Pritzker, you know, I got to give a shout out to Colbert.
I'll say it again because Colbert actually pulled the map up and called him out on the hypocrisy of this.
But Pritzker was like, if they want to gerrymander, then we'll do the same.
But you can't.
Illinois could not be more gerrymandered.
Take a look at District 13.
They basically created this big long strip to combine East St. Louis with Urbana.
Otherwise, there would be no Democrat district there.
So basically, you cut off East St. Louis, you cut off Urbana.
This whole section is all conservative voters who are disenfranchised because they wanted to because those metros are not big enough to sustain a district on their own.
So this is Illinois' game.
I can't remember who said it.
They said, that's not a district.
That's a road trip.
Agreed.
And then you can See, they did the same thing with Bloomington, Davenport, and Rockford.
Are you kidding me?
Illinois is whack.
It is nuts.
So these Democrats want to flee.
Everybody knows how bad it is.
All right.
I say lock them up.
Lock them up.
phil labonte
You know, to your point, there's there's, I made this point last night.
There's not a whole lot that the Democrats can do to actually produce more Democrat seats.
They've really mastered gerrymandering.
You've got a state like, you know, Massachusetts, which has no Republicans.
40% of Massachusetts voted for Donald Trump.
Something around 40% voted for Donald Trump last election.
There's not one Republican to represent 40% of the population of the state.
And it's not like Massachusetts isn't a big state, but it's not a low populist state because Boston's got a lot of people.
So the idea that the Democrats are actually worried about democracy and worried about representation, it's a farce.
And the way that they portray this whole debacle about Texas, it's as if there is no gerrymandering going on or it's some new phenomenon.
And again, they have mastered gerrymandering to the point that you really can't do more as a Democrat and squeeze more Democrat seats out of the country.
Like they've really maximized the gerrymandering of all the states.
brett dasovic
How did they do it in Massachusetts?
phil labonte
Pardon me?
brett dasovic
How is it done in Massachusetts?
phil labonte
What do you mean?
brett dasovic
Like, how is the gerrymandering done so that there are no Republicans?
tim pool
Oh, no, y'all are wrong.
Look, the gerrymandering Princeton project gives Massachusetts an A, an A rating.
phil labonte
It's a whole lot of people.
tim pool
And it's a 40% Republican state with not a single Republican district.
unidentified
Not just that.
tate brown
If you look at a map of the whole, like all the states combined, is not even Massachusetts even border Republican district.
Like it's surrounded on all sides because Connecticut doesn't have any.
Rhode Island doesn't have any.
phil labonte
Yeah.
New Hampshire.
tim pool
To be fair, 36% Trump supporting state.
And we can take a look at where these pockets are, but it don't matter.
Don't matter.
Because the way you drop the map guarantees there will never be a Republican district in Massachusetts.
scott greer
Well, Maryland's another horrible state.
I want to see their rating for Maryland because Maryland, it should be a couple seats that Republicans should compete in.
And they ensured it's just one Republican seat, a B. Oh, dude, everybody.
And yeah, it's like that district should be Republican on the West, but they've ensured that it's not, that it's never going to be.
tim pool
Yeah, what they did was by combining, I forgot how I did it, but I was talking to some locals, and it's they by putting Frederick in Western Maryland, it basically ensures because that's a population of like 500,000 in their metro.
They carved out a portion on the east so that they could add the rest to the western Mary to Western Maryland and convert what is largely Trump country just north of West Virginia into a Democrat district.
And everybody's pissed.
scott greer
That's Democratic.
That's democracy.
When Republicans do that, that's a threat.
And we have to use all available means to stop it.
tate brown
Yeah, I'm really worried about democracy, guys.
We need to make sure all these Republicans do not have seats.
scott greer
But there's a lot of uninformed people who really believe that only Republicans gerrymander because they listen to late night talk shows.
Well, Colbert is still on air.
They listen to the rant of CNN and MSNBC, and they never point out that Illinois, Maryland, various other states, and what California is going to do.
Whenever they hear gerrymandering, they think it's Southern segregationists come back from the 1950s and they're carving up.
They're like, we're not going to give Democrats this area.
And every state does it.
tate brown
Wait till the America Party gets their seats.
scott greer
Yeah.
phil labonte
I'm going to hold my breath for that.
tim pool
I love this.
scott greer
Yeah, well, they're going to have to gerrymander every, like all the other districts.
tate brown
Gerrymander.
scott greer
Keep out the America Party.
unidentified
Look how ridiculous Dallas is.
tim pool
This is before the redistricting.
This is just insanity.
tate brown
Well, they do in Texas.
The reason they make the blue ones is so they can sink as many Democrat voters into one seat.
Like if you go look at San Antonio, there's one that stretches from the south side of San Antonio all the way to the north side of Austin.
It's purely just to sink all the Democrats.
See that?
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
tate brown
So you can sink every Democrat into one district.
tim pool
Movie fans will know that 71% Democratic vote.
phil labonte
How is that a district?
Like, what's the rationale?
scott greer
People's representatives voted for it.
tim pool
I think people need to understand this too, though.
There is no alternative.
None.
What's the argument?
Every district must be 50-50.
Well, that's impossible.
So then it's like, well, this one, this district is very heavy Democrat.
And what are we supposed to do?
So my attitude is the system doesn't work in and of itself.
That the way it was set up for districting for the federal government makes literally no sense.
And I don't know that the founding fathers understood that gerrymandering will happen.
It's a guarantee.
It has to happen.
Again, what are we going to do?
Put blocks.
Okay.
A district must be 500 by 500 feet or miles or something, or just maybe not miles.
Or yeah, that's it.
And however many people are in are in it.
Thank you to have a nice day.
Otherwise, what are you going to do?
You're going to draw districts and then you're going to have to choose what percentage will this district be Democrat-Republican or political affiliation.
I suppose to the founding fathers, they thought there aren't two political parties.
Now there are.
scott greer
And also, if they're not even going with the 50-50 block or some type of mathematical formula, it's going to be left to the federal government and liberal bureaucrats to decide.
And that's taking the power away from the states and the state representatives and senators that the people elected to draw the maps.
And instead of putting it in the hands of Washington, D.C. bureaucrats to determine, and they're not going to go after Illinois.
They're not going to go after New Jersey.
They're not going to go after Rhode Island or any other state.
They're only going to go after Texas, Tennessee, Kentucky.
They're only going to go after red states.
And then they're going to be like, this is bad.
And we're going to draw it to be more Democratic friendly.
So whenever they complain about gerrymandering, it's to benefit the Democrats.
And they'll never go after Republicans for this.
tim pool
All that matters is who wins at the state level.
And then they decide what your representation is going to be.
Goodbye.
So the Republicans won in Texas.
They have the right to do this.
I love listening to Pritzker where he's like, they're trying to steal seats from you.
And I'm like, well, hold on.
They were elected.
They have the authority under their government to do exactly what they're doing.
How's that stealing?
But you fleeing the state to break quorum, which quorum was not, this rule was not put in place so that you could just shut things down.
That would be violating the rules for which you are facing arrest and fines.
Sounds like you're stealing.
Do we, do the people of, let me ask you this.
If you have the legal authority to take an object and then you take that object, is that stealing?
phil labonte
No.
tim pool
If you are threatened with arrest and fines for the actions you have taken, is that more likely to be stealing?
phil labonte
I mean, yeah.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
tim pool
So usually if the Democrats are facing the charges and the criminal charges for bribery and all that, I'm going to go up to and assume the one trying to steal power here is the Democrats for which they're breaking the law.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
The question, I guess, is, are Republicans going to be whiny little babies or are they actually going to do their jobs?
unidentified
Whiny little babies.
brett dasovic
Whiny little babies.
tate brown
I mean, that's the, that's what's like.
scott greer
Do you think they're going to be whiny little babies?
brett dasovic
Yes.
tate brown
I think Trump, I think Trump has changed the math because I think people realize like the point of politics isn't principles.
The point is like winning and Trump wins.
And it's like you have Republicans have to be confident wielding power.
And that's been the biggest problem for the last 50 years is Republicans get power and then they're terrified that they have it.
Trump comes in and he's comfortable wielding power and we need to be confident in ourselves and it's a beautiful thing.
And I love saying that Texas is like going hard in the paint.
scott greer
And the easiest way to please the base right now is to promise to arrest Democrats.
I mean, look at what Trump's doing with the DOJ.
They're like, we've got people angry, promised to arrest Obama.
They're trying to press charges against Adam Schiff and a lot of other people.
They would like nothing more than to arrest the entire Texas Democrats who fled to Illinois.
So they're going to, it's not just and Ken Paxon's running for the Senate.
He wants to show that he's a stronger conservative than Cornyn.
And what better way to do that than to work with Trump's DOJ to arrest Democrats?
And that's going to be a big hit within the primary.
Now, with the general electorate, I don't think they really care that much.
I mean, what the Democrats did to Trump and people who supported him over the last four years, you know, they already set the precedent.
And we're now just following the precedent that they set.
And they're actually committing crimes here and going against the will of the people and trying to steal democracy away from the people of Texas.
And so they should use all available means.
I think Republicans would like nothing more than to arrest these people.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, I'm not so sure that you're right.
I want that to be the truth, but I don't know that they actually do have the gumption to do it.
brett dasovic
Yeah, I don't buy it.
What if they're like Beto, you're under arrest for writing a skateboard out on the primary?
tim pool
I would support that.
unidentified
I would support that as a skateboard.
brett dasovic
Like I said, under arrest for cringe.
tim pool
Locked up.
phil labonte
Like I said, I'm all for the Republicans exercising power because they have it.
I'm all for doing whatever they can to throw sand of the gears of things that the Democrats want.
I want to pull back all sorts of laws that Democrats have passed.
I just don't know exactly how far Republicans are willing to go.
I mean, even now, Cornyn is balking at recess appointments that Donald Trump is trying to get through.
He's not going to have the Senate there to actually do this stuff.
So I'm not so sure that they have the intestinal fortitude to do it.
I would love to see it, though.
scott greer
That's the problem with Corny.
That's the problem that Paxon's trying to highlight with Cornyn: he won't do this, but they need to do this.
Now, I don't know if the federal government will try to help Texas out in there.
I mean, they would try to like, what they want is to at least arrest one or two to set an example and to draw them back in.
Maybe they can, I don't know, lure them to like a McDonald's or maybe there's some free meal or they give them free WNBA tickets.
They all just show up and then they arrest them before they get in the game.
I don't know.
They'll find something, some way to transport them back.
brett dasovic
It's a good place to do it.
Luigi got arrested at a McDonald's.
phil labonte
There you go.
scott greer
Yeah, there you go.
So I guess that's what they need to do.
Offer free WNBA tickets to reward their service to democracy.
And they get on a free bus and then that bus takes them back to Austin.
phil labonte
Look, anything that will allow the Democrats to think that they're going to get some attention, like get, you know, get on TV or get a bunch of clicks or whatever, anything that you can come up with that'll make them feel that way will draw them in, I'm sure, because they're all just grandstanding.
The whole point of this is grandstanding.
scott greer
That's like all those Democratic lawmakers who want to get arrested at the ICE facilities.
They were begging.
They're like, please arrest me, please.
And they did.
And now they're pressing charges against them that they probably didn't wish for, but they got what they wanted.
tim pool
Let's jump to the next story from NPR, ladies and gentlemen.
After an ex-Doge staffer's assault, Trump threatens to federalize D.C. My friends, big balls has earned not just the name, but the title.
After, if you guys don't know the story, that guy who goes by Big Balls who worked for Doge, I believe the story is that he saw a young woman being carjacked, intervened to save her, and got mercilessly beaten.
But as was going on, cops pulled up, the attackers fled, and he had saved this young lady, earning not just the name that he had bestowed upon himself, confirming it, but also the title of having big balls.
And following this, Trump responded saying that maybe we need to federalize DC, and he should.
He can.
And I'm waiting.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tate brown
I mean, I don't think you should stop at DC.
I think you should do New York, LA, Chicago.
I'm serious because it's like, this is a total embarrassment that our city, our capital city, looks like this.
I've been to Tokyo.
Charlie Kirk was talking about it today.
Tokyo.
Obviously, there's some intangible differences between.
tim pool
Yeah, like all the masturbation stores they have in Tokyo.
tate brown
Yeah, well, maybe that helps.
Maybe, you know, a little gooning goes a long way, but a little goon.
But no, but like for real, it's a total embarrassment.
And Trump totally has a justification to go in and actually solve these cities.
I mean, New York City's about to elect a radical Marxist Muslim from Uganda.
Like, what are we doing here?
Federalize it.
Whatever you need to do.
Will it happen?
I don't know.
But he totally should.
He shouldn't stop at D.C. Yeah.
tim pool
I actually just, I want to stress that I find Japan to be disgusting.
tate brown
Oh, they're definitely perfect at the guild.
tim pool
They have vending machines with like women's, you know, underwear and just other really nasty stuff.
And dude, I'm a big fan of just Japan in general, you know?
But going there, there's some really great things.
Like I stayed at a hotel and for breakfast, we had like a regular continental breakfast.
And I was like, hey, look at this, you got eggs and sausage.
But the breadbasket were these weird little buns and opened them up.
It was, they were rice buns.
It was amazing.
And I went to a karaoke bar and it was shoulder to shoulder packed.
And I sang with our tour, our fixer.
We sang, what are we saying?
That Aladdin song, Show You the World, was it called?
Whole New World?
Whole New World.
There you go.
I did a duet with this old lady.
Rest in peace.
She died of cancer.
She was a fixer going into Fukushima.
I had an amazing time.
But yo, I got to tell you, you go to the city and they've got these signs everywhere.
And I'm like, I thought it was a fast food restaurant.
I kept asking, like, what is this place we keep seeing?
It was a masturbatorium.
And they're everywhere.
And I'm like, this is a disgusting country.
phil labonte
Japan definitely does not have Western sensibilities.
That goes without saying.
tate brown
Go to Austin, Texas.
She's looking masturbatory.
It's called underpasses.
tim pool
Yeah, you know, you're probably right.
unidentified
You're probably right.
brett dasovic
No WNBA games allow.
tate brown
The gooning there is not regulated in Austin.
It's all off the books.
tim pool
But in all seriousness, you are correct that other capital cities don't look like ours.
And it is disgusting that this country is the greatest country in the country, a country on the planet, but D.C. is a crime-ridden scumhole.
brett dasovic
D.C. just sucks.
It just does.
I don't care what anybody says.
tim pool
Bro, we've been going there for these live shows.
We're doing culture war.
May sell out the culture war this Friday.
So I think we've got, we've got a couple dozen tickets left, so it's looking decent, but we just, we sell big junks.
We've been going there.
You drive through DC.
There are tents just on the sidewalk.
Not underpasses, not near construction sites, near buildings where people work and live.
There's just like three tents.
And I'm like, why do they not remove this?
What is wrong with this city?
And no, no.
And I'm going to say, why Won't Trump.
Why won't Trump just do it?
I'm done.
I am so sick of this.
Maybe Trump's like, you know what I'm going to do?
I'm going to win.
And then just dangle it, but do nothing to get him blue balled.
And the next guy is going to go ham.
Is that his plan?
Just get us all worked up being like, maybe he'll enforce the law.
And then when he doesn't, we vote for the guy with the iron fist.
tate brown
The one thing that's the upside is the entire admin is radicalized after seeing this happen, that it could be any of them.
And they're all weighing on Trump heavily to consider this.
And like the thing about Trump is he definitely listens to people that are around him a little too much sometimes.
scott greer
I mean, they definitely want to do it.
I mean, the thing about DC is though, it went 95% for his opponents and all these.
They're the ones who are like the most opposed to it.
And it's like, we're trying to help you.
So you can walk around at night and not have to worry about shootings at nightclubs.
Because, I mean, D.C. has completely changed over the last 10 years.
I mean, it's become much more violent.
The nightlife has died out.
There's all these now homeless encampments and they don't arrest people.
The only people they arrest are the few who actually practice self-defense because there was a story a few years ago.
Actually, I think it was like last year where a guy confronted these carjackers, these kids who were, well, kids, youths.
They're carjacking.
And, you know, they got in a scuffle.
He pulled out a gun.
You know, they attacked him and he shot him.
And they first all was like, this must have been a white supremacist who did this.
I'm like, probably not.
It turned out to be a black city employee or government worker.
And then they're like, cooled off.
It's like, well, we can't make this about racism, but we still can't have citizens, even if they're black, white, Hispanic, or whatever, shooting at criminals.
And then they convicted him on very serious charges.
So the only people that they're able to really convict are the few who actually try to stand up for themselves against the criminals.
Because most of the time, if you know, if Big Balls was not Big Balls, they'd probably just forgotten about this.
I have had friends who've gotten their cars broken into or their motorcycles stolen, and the cops just say, tough luck.
And that even happens with assaults and everything.
And the only reason that this is getting national tensions is because it's pissed off in the United States of America, President of the United States of America.
tate brown
Well, that's the thing is, like, I don't even care about protecting D.C. residents or doing anything good for them.
Honestly, like, screw them.
I care about the Patriots that live in the city and work.
There's not many of them, so we need to protect them.
And yeah, so I don't, I mean, if it's going to help D.C., it's like, I don't really care.
I'm not countersignaling.
I'm just saying, like, I don't care if it helps people in D.C. at all.
This is for patriots so they can go to and fro patriot institutions safely.
scott greer
Well, it's our nation's capital.
And there's all these tourists from middle America and they don't want to be attacked and robbed.
tim pool
You know, you know, what's happening now is people are fleeing DC and they're moving out here and they're turning the areas purple and they're bringing their dumb politics with them.
Yo, it's wild the developments that are going on in West Virginia.
It's it's crazy.
Like, yo, there are plots of land out here that we were looking at years ago and it was like big plot of land, couple million bucks, something.
They're sold and now there's like 50 houses.
And it's just each house now selling for half a million dollars.
And who's moving in?
People from DC who don't want to live in crime, who voted for it and who will vote for it here and make everything worse.
And that's what they do.
It's like that scene from The Matrix where Agent Smith is like, you know, I tried to classify humans.
And then he basically said that humans are a disease, a virus that's spread from one region to another, destroying it.
Liberals, maybe.
brett dasovic
It's like the aliens from Independence Day.
tim pool
Yeah.
phil labonte
Yeah.
I mean, I live in one of the, or my place around here is in one of the new developments.
I'm the first person to rent the place.
And the area is nice and all my neighbors are nice and stuff.
But it's like, I do wonder, it's like, how many of these people are actually going to vote for conservative ideas?
Are the people that are moving in here?
Are they actually going to vote red?
Or are they going to be liberals and essentially try to make this place like where they came from?
And it worries me because I like the laws here in West Virginia.
Even though my vote doesn't really matter because it's a very red state, I don't want to see it change.
scott greer
That's an argument to get rid of the crime because you keep it as a Democrat enclosure.
These people stay there.
They don't have a senator.
They don't have any senators.
And that's a reason to clean it up is that you can have their liberal utopia in DC and they're not moving out to West Virginia or to Virginia.
Maryland's already blue, but it helps the other states have a competitive advantage and keep and stay red.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tate brown
Yeah.
I mean, because that's kind of the, that's kind of this somewhat of a fallacy that Republicans have embraced is like they can just change everyone's minds.
And it's like, at a certain level, you got to like, you know, daddy's got to lay the hammer down, like the UN chief or the NATO chief called so accurate.
It's like, you have to lay the hammer down here.
phil labonte
For people to change their mind, they need to actually have something happen to them, not just move, right?
Like people have a nature, right?
Like, I don't believe in the clean, the blank slate one bit.
I think that people have a nature.
When you're born, you're probably going to be a conservative.
You're probably going to be a liberal.
If something happens to you, that might change the way you see things.
Like, you know, if you, if you are a liberal and you get mugged or whatever, you might be like, well, maybe we do need more police or maybe I should, you know, maybe I should support the Second Amendment.
But there's no guarantee of that because that, you know, there's, you hear stories about people that get mugged and they're like, well, you know, the poor guy that mugged me, he, you know, they start making excuses like he was oppressed or whatever, you know, he had a hard life or whatever.
So I don't, I don't believe that it's, it's easy to change people's minds or you can really have a conversation and make people say, you know what?
I do think the left is actually wrong now.
It's no, it's, it's much harder than that.
tim pool
I love that video that James O'Keeve did where they went door to door and he was like, he's like, hi, we're, we're, we're gun control advocates.
We believe that strong gun laws can prevent violence.
We were wondering if you agreed.
And they're like, yes, of course.
We think, you know, in gun control, he's like, do you, do you own a gun?
They're like, oh, we don't.
He's like, can I put this sign in your yard so that we can, you know, and the sign says proud gun-free home.
And the people are like, no, I don't want that in my lawn.
And he's like, well, but why not?
I mean, we're here to make a statement that you don't need guns.
And it's like, well, it sounds like you're inviting people.
And then James goes, it sounds like you're saying you need guns.
He's like, well, no, but yeah, we get it.
You hope everyone thinks you have a gun and you don't want to tell them you don't.
Because they wish they had guns.
That's it.
There was one viral video I saw where some woman bought a gun and then someone in her family, she was secretly recording herself and they were insulting her and calling her stupid for buying a gun, saying it's dangerous.
You're crazy.
You know, you're going down a rabbit hole, blah, blah, blah.
Far right.
Go back, go back to Venezuela.
You live there under the government.
See how that goes for you.
tate brown
He had the one, I don't remember the name.
It was, he was like a progressive Brooklyn activist and he was with his girlfriend on the show.
scott greer
Oh, yeah.
tate brown
And he got like stabbed to death.
And his girlfriend was like, oh, he would have forgave the guy.
And then she's like stumping for Zoron now.
So it's like people could literally have the worst thing possible happen right in front of their face and they won't change their population.
scott greer
They're that fanatically loyal to these ideas.
There's a lot of people in DC like that.
There was a guy that had some, there's one story.
It was like in 2021 or 2022 when the crime was really bad.
It's bad now, but it was really bad then.
And there was some guy who built up a basketball goal for these local youths to play and it was near his house, but they would play late and disrupt his kids sleep.
He had like a young daughter, and he went out and went nicely to tell them to not play basketball.
And they're like, they thought he was disrespecting them.
And then they beat the crap out of him.
And there was like blood all over the street.
And then they took down the basketball goal.
And then, like, we still feel it was bad because, you know, we're white and they were not.
And we're, you know, we're trying to be sensitive in this.
And it's like this guy, these kids nearly beat your husband to death, and you still have these views.
brett dasovic
Yeah, that's the suicidal empathy that they talk about these days.
tim pool
I don't, I don't believe that that's a real thing, though.
I think they're just terrified people.
It's more of like capture.
Like when that guy at the house says, no, don't put that sign in my lawn, it was him telling on himself.
He knows exactly the importance of guns and guns as a deterrent.
So he doesn't want to advertise his and have one.
These people who are doing this thing about, oh, but white people, whatever, what they're really saying is, please just stop attacking us.
I'll say whatever you want.
brett dasovic
It's like the what was the story from a couple years ago about the woman who did the TED talk with the guy who raped her?
tate brown
Oh, yeah.
brett dasovic
That's like, that's that, that is, that's not fear.
That's just insane.
scott greer
There are a few insane people who will do that because there's been even stories that they love to highlight post-Floyd, whereas like some daughter reached out to their father's killer.
And of course, he was from an oppress group and they were, we wanted to reach an understanding with him.
And there was like even the stuff with Molly Tibbett's family, if you guys remember Molly Tibbetts, who was that University of Iowa student who was raped and murdered by an illegal immigrant.
And her family spent more of their time defending illegal immigrants and in some ways sympathizing with the killer because they were so upset that Don Jr. and other Trump conservatives were highlighting this case to show the danger of illegal immigration.
And then they went all board to say, we love illegal immigrants.
And we won't allow this to be politicized.
tim pool
Y'all saw that AI interview that accosted with the puppeteered corpse.
I like to, I refer to that as Jim Acosta puppeteering a corpse.
He, for those on it familiar, the family of one of the Parkland victims loaded an image into an AI generator and some prompts to create a version of their facsimile of their son.
I don't see that as any different than exhuming the corpse and jamming your hand in the back of the skull and puppeteering the face.
So I think this is all just generally disgusting.
Disgusting behavior.
But let's jump to this next story.
We got this on the post-millennial.
Arson attack on ICE office in Washington forces agents to flee.
Yo, this is crazy.
Federal immigration agents were forced to flee a field office in Yakima, Washington over the weekend after an arson attack damaged the property, according to a report by the New York Post.
The incident occurred on Saturday when an unidentified suspect reportedly threw a rock into the window of the building before igniting a fire behind the property.
Flames were seen burning the grass outside the fenced perimeter and a large cloud of smoke formed.
No injuries were reported in the attack.
The office is located about 140 miles southeast of Seattle and houses operations for ICE as well as Washington State Department of Social and Health Services.
The attack comes as ICE personnel have seen an 830% increase in assaults, et cetera.
We get it.
You know what's fascinating is I think it was just a guitar lov on the five today saying that the reason ICE is doing all these commercials where they're offering $50,000 sign-on bonus.
brett dasovic
Yeah, and there's like no, like there's no age limit to it now.
Dean Kane signed up.
Superman.
tim pool
But did he actually sign up to be an ICE officer, like an agent?
brett dasovic
He said, I signed up.
I have no idea whether he's actually going to do it.
tim pool
He's like Tom Cruise and Edget Tomorrow.
Yeah, we need to send you out there and film so you look good.
That's what they're going to do.
We need to send Tate to sign up and go through the sign up to be an ICE agent and then you report back and tell us what happened.
brett dasovic
I can do that.
That's my dream.
I'm on the older side.
So I'm like, I'm not Dean Kane.
tate brown
You're in the Unkhila?
brett dasovic
I'm Unk track.
tim pool
$50,000 bonus.
brett dasovic
Well, no, they were also doing the same thing for cops in D.C. Right?
tim pool
Yeah.
How long do you got to work there to get the 50K?
One year?
Ending the age gap.
brett dasovic
Bro, imagine like you sign up to go work for ICE and they send you to like Washington.
You're like, fuck.
tate brown
Yeah.
There's no illegals here.
brett dasovic
Well, it's no, you're going to get firebombed every other day.
And then they're.
tim pool
How do you get it?
I want, how do you get this signing bonus?
$60,000 student loan replacement?
What does premium pay mean as an asterisk?
What is it?
Where does the there's no answers here?
Let's see.
Is there a cost to apply?
Nope.
What are the benefits compared to a balaclava every day?
tate brown
Right around.
tim pool
What happens?
scott greer
We will move fast and get paid for it.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
Be a patriot and save.
tim pool
Dude, how are more people not taking up on this?
It sounds like.
brett dasovic
It might actually be like you probably have to be duolingual and duolingual.
Like you probably have to speak Spanish.
unidentified
You probably have to speak Spanish because you're making shadow in Spanish.
tim pool
All right, Tate.
Do you want to be a deportation officer, a criminal investigator, or a general attorney?
tate brown
I want to be the office deportation officer.
tim pool
Deportation.
Let's go.
unidentified
Your service, Mr. Trump, Mr. Miller, Stephen Miller, at your service, sir.
tim pool
So let's see.
You get a salary between four.
I got a question for you.
Honest question.
Salary is $49,739 to $89,528.
unidentified
Why?
brett dasovic
To what?
tim pool
$89,528.
Why couldn't they just be like $50,000 to $90?
Why do they got to make this weird number?
tate brown
Because you got a staff in like LA.
You can't survive in LA with less than $90.
tim pool
Yeah, but why didn't they just put salary $50K to $90,000 instead of these weird $49,700?
unidentified
They're probably legally required to put the like, you know, what you know what I was told by my accountants.
tim pool
My accountant said never round to zeros because it looks weird.
So it's like, they're just like, just make it a weird number.
Otherwise, it looks like it's fake.
You got to be specific.
All right, let's see.
The job is open to the public.
Citizens, nationals who owe allegiance to the U.S. Wow.
Really?
Just U.S. citizens, though?
brett dasovic
A large percentage of ICE agents are.
tate brown
Oh, it's probably like if you're from the Virgin Islands or right, right, right, right, right.
tim pool
That makes sense.
tate brown
Can you imagine?
tim pool
Okay, you must be a U.S. citizen.
No, you must be a U.S. citizen.
Pass a background test, background investigation.
Males born after 1959 must certify registration with selective service.
scott greer
If you're born in 58, you don't have to worry about that.
unidentified
That's right.
tim pool
Pre-employment physical fitness test.
Obtain secret clearance.
Oh, that's cool.
Carry a firearm, Tate.
Ooh, Tate, you got to carry a gun.
tate brown
Can you please let me do this too?
tim pool
Bro, no one's stopping you.
You don't need my permission.
phil labonte
A lot of can film.
tate brown
Yeah, a lot can film.
tim pool
Let's see.
Three years, three years of progressively responsible experience, one year, which will equivalent to the GS4 level or above in the federal government.
What?
tate brown
Oh, I'm cooked.
tim pool
Wait, what?
Are you kidding?
That's not open to anybody.
Who's going to be able to take that?
tate brown
Best I can do is four months of producing for a podcast.
brett dasovic
They're like, oh, we'll take you.
tim pool
Okay, wait, wait, wait.
brett dasovic
Afghanistan in 2015.
tim pool
Hold on.
You got to have a college degree.
tate brown
Okay.
brett dasovic
You have to at least have a four-year degree to work for the gov. Let's see.
tim pool
It must have been attained by a credit university.
One-year full-time undergraduate study defined as 30 semester or 45 quarters or combination of education and experience, combinations of successfully completed post-high school education and experience may be used.
I call shenanigans on that.
brett dasovic
Like I went To high school and I was in my local militia.
Does that kind of work?
tate brown
Yeah, I went to school hard knocked.
tim pool
I call shenanigans on telling people they got to get a bachelor's degree in order to be an ICE agent.
scott greer
They said Trisha McLaughlin says you don't need a college degree to sign up for ICE, but I don't know.
It says right here.
tim pool
Well, no, you don't, so long as you've got three years' experience at GS4 or above, or you've got combined college and government experience.
scott greer
Like, if you've been a cop for three years, you can forego the college degree, I guess.
phil labonte
Don't most police officers have like some kind of degree, though, like a two-year degree, a bachelor's degree.
scott greer
Yeah, a lot of them do.
I think like a lot of state troopers require a college degree, but not every police department requires one.
tim pool
This is the problem with government in general.
Like, maybe you wouldn't need to offer $50,000 if you let people actually take a test to see if they're worth hiring.
The problem I have with this is that as someone who has hired many people and with lots of experience in this, experience is lied about and easily faked, and bachelor's degree prove literal nothing.
So it's like if you want someone who's going to do the job and passionately and care about it, these are not ways to test for that.
So now they're like, why would anyone apply?
Guess we got to offer 50 grand.
Bro, there's a whole bunch of working-class Joes with high school diplomas who would sign up in a heartbeat and would beg for a 50K sign-on bonus, take this job and begin the process, but they're iced out.
So that's West Virginia.
That's Ohio, Pennsylvania.
Working-class blue-collar guys are going to be like, Well, I can't do it.
brett dasovic
I mean, it's all part of the debt trap we're in in this country, anyways.
Which is any job worth applying for is going to require you to go to college for four years and put yourself into debt.
unidentified
So Techno says one podcast, not podcasting.
scott greer
Not in a college degree for podcasts.
brett dasovic
You can just get the debt for the love of the game if you want.
tate brown
We probably need much higher standards for podcasts.
I mean, people that are podcasting these days.
unidentified
Oh, my God.
brett dasovic
A license.
tate brown
Yeah, you need a license.
I think it'd be good.
Yeah.
brett dasovic
I do sometimes wonder on it.
I'm like, who the hell let me in here?
tate brown
Can you believe they give me a mic?
Stupid.
tim pool
To be honest, these are pretty like strict qualifications.
It's pretty wild.
Physical, you got, you got to pass a physical test, which I get.
They want you to be in to detain people.
brett dasovic
They like reconstruct the border wall and say you have to climb it and get over the other side.
tim pool
But you actually need a lot to get this job.
This is, they make it seem like in these advertisements that anybody can just get it.
Just apply and you'll get it.
You can't.
GL5 experience or GL7 plus passing a physical fitness test.
That one I do get.
Motor vehicle operation.
Age restrictions are listed here.
They just got rid of that, but that was listed.
I say just take anybody and train them.
I don't see what the problem is.
phil labonte
That's what they should do, honestly.
tim pool
Deportation officer.
Okay, what about criminal investigator?
That one's going to be real hard, I bet.
That's going to be like, nah, what do they pay?
It's $63,000 to $100,000.
GL9.
Oh, GL9.
Our government is a bunch of morons set up by other morons to tell morons what to do when they don't know what they're doing.
General attorney.
Oh, this one's different.
That one's because you need a lot more, right?
85%.
brett dasovic
No law degree to go be general attorney.
scott greer
Oh, no, it's because the high school degree.
tim pool
But it's because they're only hiring five.
Whereas like deportation officers are probably hiring tons.
Yeah.
You know, I look at this and I'm like, America needs you.
That's not correct.
That is not correct.
I say there are a lot of people in West Virginia who'd love to get a $50,000 assignment bonus, get their student loans paid for, and they don't got college degrees, you know?
But don't worry, guys, I will never be an ICE agent.
You know why?
Because I'm a high school dropout.
For the left, you got nothing to worry about.
You should not worry about anything.
phil labonte
Yeah, I don't see why the feds won't actually train people.
Like, there's no reason that you have to have a college degree, especially if it's not a specific degree that they're looking for.
It's like, oh, you just went to college some.
That's like being like, well, you know, you can actually finish your finish work or you actually complete tasks that are given to you.
The feds should train people because aside from, I mean, I can't imagine that there's anything particularly, you know, necessary.
Like, no, any, I can't imagine that there's any particularly special knowledge that you need to have that they can't give to you.
You know, it's like you need to know the law.
You need to be able to run people down if they're running away, you know, and you have to be able to work on a team to some degree.
Otherwise, what particular special knowledge do you get from college that they couldn't train, you know, train you up in six months or a year or whatever?
tim pool
So someone, Leland Taylor says those are qualifications for GL levels not requisite for employment.
So what is the purpose?
Correct me if I'm wrong.
What is the purpose of including you qualify for GL5 grade if you possess one of the following and it literally lists it as GL5 through seven?
Does that not mean that this being a GL5 job requires you to meet the GL5 grade level and here are the things that can qualify you for GL5?
Am I reading that?
Is that, am I wrong on this one?
I could be wrong.
I just don't understand why they would say qualifications for GL5, it's a GL5 job if they did not require that.
phil labonte
I don't know.
Well, there you go.
You know.
tim pool
Yeah, I will say this.
ICE has been reaching out to people to ask them to shout this out and to make videos promoting this campaign.
They are serious about it.
Yeah.
DHS has been reaching out to people saying, hey, we're trying to get the word out on this.
Let everybody know 50K sign-on bonus, student loan repayment repayment.
We want to hire as fast as possible.
That's a good sign.
brett dasovic
What's more dangerous, this or being DC police?
Because they had like an 80K sign-on bonus or something.
unidentified
Wow.
brett dasovic
Wasn't it?
Serge, like, did you see that?
Like, there was like, it was like on the buses in DC.
It's like a huge sign-on bonus to work for.
scott greer
I would say DC police would be more dangerous.
brett dasovic
More dangerous.
unidentified
Yeah.
brett dasovic
So higher sign-on.
tate brown
In the New York City subway, they had Capitol Police ads.
It was the wildest thing.
It was like right after J6.
scott greer
Yeah, no, I'd say DC police.
If you ever got shot as an ICE agent, man, you're getting like the death.
unidentified
I mean, they would, you're dealing with the federal.
phil labonte
It's pretty steep for attacking a federal agent or whatever, you know.
I can't imagine that there's just going to be a lot of people.
scott greer
Most of the migrants, I guess, just want to run away rather than trying to, you know, make the problem worse.
unidentified
Federal rallies.
scott greer
Federalists would be worse.
phil labonte
Hauling it.
scott greer
I mean, it could be worse than other cities like Baltimore police.
I would say police.
brett dasovic
I saw the wire.
tate brown
I know.
tim pool
Let's jump to this next story, ladies and gentlemen.
I hope you're ready for this.
New virus outbreak in China.
What to know about the Chikungunya virus?
phil labonte
Yeah, the name is racist.
tim pool
It is.
We can't say it.
We're just going to say China virus to make it easier so you don't say anything racist.
phil labonte
China virus 2, the revenge.
tim pool
A mosquito-borne virus that infected more than 7,000 people across 13 cities in China has sparked precautions similar to those during COVID, the COVID pandemic, and attempts to stop its spread despite the virus not being transmittable from person to person.
phil labonte
Yes.
tim pool
So it's a way.
Yeah, right.
The Chikungunya virus, which spreads only through the bite of infected mosquitoes and is not fatal, has spread quickly across the more dozen cities in this other Guangdong province, just north of Hong Kong, with almost 3,000 cases in the last week alone.
So how long until we get the Chikong Gunya vaccine?
unidentified
I mean, I suppose That he's making the vaccine.
phil labonte
I suppose that they have to wait until the mosquitoes can cross the Pacific or they get all the way up through Russia and across Alaska and through Canada to down here.
If you can't get it.
tim pool
So you guys heard in the past couple of days, thimerosol was banned.
phil labonte
What was that?
tim pool
You guys did not talk about this.
RFK Jr. just banned a bunch of vaccines?
phil labonte
No.
tim pool
Really?
Really?
phil labonte
No.
tim pool
No.
scott greer
Yeah, I've heard about.
tim pool
You had no idea?
You see what happens when I'm out?
The RFK banned a bunch of vaccines.
It was the biggest story in the world.
phil labonte
I defer to Kellen.
unidentified
Kelly was like, this is talking about sold the mRNA stuff today.
tim pool
Yeah.
Well, that too, but thimerosol specifically, which is the mercury-based preservative, has been.
What did he say?
Causes autism?
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Is that what he said?
brett dasovic
He's told that that is a conspiracy theory.
scott greer
Yeah.
He went after a bunch of them saying that we've determined that they have negative health effects, so we're not going to allow them on the market.
tim pool
I'm pretty sure, like, what is this one?
So there's a bunch of stories on this one.
I would assumed you guys would have read a little bit about it.
A bunch of recent statements.
Like, he's basically saying this, and that the data was, there's an addendum to date on these studies, and they're going to be pulling it out.
I was talking to a doctor about this because, you know, we just had a kid, and I'm like, so what does this mean for vaccines?
And he was like, I have no idea.
And it's like, okay.
Are they going to get rid of the current ones that have thimerosol?
It's like, I would assume so.
If RFK's saying to get rid of them, okay, so what do we do?
I don't know.
And so my question is: if RFK Jr. is saying the mRNA vaccines are bad and thimerosol is bad, though thimerosol was removed from a lot of vaccines a long time ago.
Do you trust the government today or yesterday?
phil labonte
No.
tim pool
YouTube said that they were going to ban people, said bad things about vaccines, but now the head of HHS is saying that.
Do I go with the government or the crypto corporation?
You tell me, YouTube, you tell me, because we got the Chicanya virus.
And when that vaccine comes out, I had no idea because I guarantee you, RFK is going to be like, we don't need a vaccine for this one.
And then I'm going to be like, but YouTube's going to ban me if I say that.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So we're on the side of the government or against them.
phil labonte
I mean, I have no idea what to do when the government says yes and then says no.
So, I mean, it's kind of tough.
Thimerosol is a mercury-containing organic compound.
So are they banning it because of the mercury content?
Because I was under the impression that there was no mercury in vaccines.
That's the information that I had had most recently.
But if thimerosol is a mercury-containing organic compound, or carrying the craziest thing in the world to me, I'm just going to bring this up from The Guardian.
tim pool
We've got a couple stories related to this one.
RFK Jr. to remove preservative thimerosol from all U.S. vaccines.
Anti-vaccine campaigns have targeted thimerosol for a decade despite no evidence of ingredient causing harm.
I just want to bash my face as hard as I can into this table over and over and over again because the U.S. government made the claim there's no evidence and they all went, oh, then the U.S. government came out and said there is evidence and they still are like, no, our past government gave us the truth.
This new government doesn't.
And I'm just sitting here being like, the government has had both.
phil labonte
Yep.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Why would the corporate press all of a sudden be like, nah, he's wrong?
brett dasovic
Because it's partisan now because it's RFK.
unidentified
Yep.
Yeah.
tim pool
Because people are cognitively developmentally disabled.
brett dasovic
Besides, the real RFK story has been all the sugar being banned from snap benefits and everybody freaking see the video today of the lady like at the counter.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
What happened?
tate brown
She was just at the counter trying to buy her like junk food and the lady at those counters like it's not scanning with your snap.
brett dasovic
Felt bad for the poor lady.
tim pool
He's not an accidental that way.
tate brown
Yeah, it's all over Twitter.
brett dasovic
Poor lady working the counters like, look, what do you want me to do about it?
Like the system literally won't let me sell it to you.
scott greer
Oh, they always love to blame the people that cashier.
I worked at a grocery store once.
They would always act like you're the one blocking all their grocery items.
It's like, oh, like it's not my decision.
brett dasovic
It's like, I personally reject your coupon.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tate brown
Like, you don't need any more Oreos, buddy.
tim pool
How do I find those?
You posted it?
scott greer
They always act like the cash.
tim pool
I was searching.
I was searching.
scott greer
Cashier isn't responsible for this.
tim pool
I was searching X for the video, but all I was getting was porn.
It's not a joke.
And so Serge had to post the videos.
He's like, no, here's the video.
I was like, oh, okay.
Here we go.
phil labonte
Thanks, Serge.
unidentified
They really own it.
They're saying no EBT.
No, they own it.
They own it.
tate brown
They own it.
tim pool
That's awesome.
unidentified
I can only buy steak chicken.
Vegetables, no snacks, no menu.
I can't do it.
tate brown
I'm not sure.
unidentified
Man, they really did, Asia, y'all.
They did.
phil labonte
Good.
unidentified
They really own it.
tim pool
This is the coolest thing I have ever seen.
tate brown
They're on it.
tim pool
I don't understand why my text dollars are being taken away to give some dude to buy Doritos and ding dungs.
It's crazy.
I don't even eat those things.
I mean, these companies are only existing because poor people get my money for free and then buy ho-hos and ding-dongs.
brett dasovic
They lobby heavily.
The great story is going to be incredible, though, when somebody's like accidentally gets in shape because this happened.
Like he starts out and he ends up becoming a fitness influencer and getting millions of dollars.
scott greer
They're going to be hired to work at ICE.
brett dasovic
Yeah.
scott greer
Finally, you know, he wasn't able to go to college.
He was poor and he was eating Doritos.
Now, thanks to RFK, he's getting healthy.
He's working out.
brett dasovic
The seed oils left my body.
scott greer
And he's now signing up to ICE to help protect the country.
I think that's going to be the Goodwill story of it.
tate brown
That is a beautiful.
tim pool
I found another video.
I don't know what it's about, though, but I'm going to play it anyway.
unidentified
This is a birthday.
And yes, we are saying I'm going to shop in hall.
So y'all come along with us and let's get some stuff out of the sound.
tate brown
Trump saying no.
unidentified
I'm really just going to be a very short video.
Just a little treat say, boom, bam.
You feel me?
Yeah, yeah.
Let's get out.
We got some Animal Crackers for $8.98.
So we're just going to grab one of these.
Yeah.
My keys like Newton Hambond, so we pay for a box of 30 seeds for $9.98.
We're going to grab it.
So yeah, we are shopping.
So we got some.
tim pool
I would not eat any of that.
unidentified
A little bit, some hot tooths.
Dude, she has to pop.
The blow pops are just a step too far.
I don't know, but that buttery garlic spice sounds pretty flaming.
scott greer
Do blow pops even have any calories?
unidentified
I don't even know.
tim pool
Of course.
Does she like try to buy it and they won't let her?
Or what happens?
serge du preez
She walks up right before they finish it.
This is like yesterday when this came out, and she stocked up trying to get a bunch of the stuff before they said they can't do anymore.
brett dasovic
Good for her paying attention to the news and getting one less shopping.
tim pool
I just want to say this as like you look at this morbidly obese woman by industrial-sized Nutragrain bar boxes and blow pop boxes.
I want you just to imagine what it must be like being like some goat farmer in Afghanistan and you see this video on your $20 recycled phone and you're just staring at this morbid obese, morbidly obese American like, I'm going to buy all of this food that's going to kill me.
And you're sitting there and you look down and then the Taliban guy walks up and he's like, dude, death to America.
And you're like, yeah.
brett dasovic
Pretty much.
scott greer
And then that goat farmer tries to get to America.
They're like, I want to go to that stance.
I want the blow pops.
tate brown
We need to be replicating the diets of the Taliban.
I think that's the key.
Because like, it was pretty impressive what they pulled off.
phil labonte
a lot of hummus.
brett dasovic
It's like the videos when they come here from a communist country and they're like, holy crap, there's stuff in the grocery stores.
They don't understand that a lot of people aren't even paying for that.
They're like, oh, yeah, you don't have your own money to pay for it.
tim pool
Yo, let's be real.
It's fascinating that when USAID goes belly up, Colbert's gone, Howard Stern is gone, and now they're cutting EBT.
All of these junk food companies are gone.
Like, how much do you want to bet?
Most of this garbage food.
Let me, I'm going to tell you guys a secret.
I'm going to tell you guys.
I went to a very fancy restaurant this weekend with the wife.
It was $180 a person.
Yeah.
And it's one of these fancy places where this is the craziest thing.
It's like an executive chef restaurant.
And beforehand, they're like, do you have any dietary restrictions?
And my wife's like, I can't have dairy.
And I'm like, I don't do bread.
And they were like, okay.
And they made everything for us on the spot.
And it was funny because it's a nine-course meal.
The first course was watermelon mint shooter of some sort.
It was amazing.
It's Potomac Restaurant Farm Restaurant.
I recommend it.
They're amazing.
And the second course was literally like three or four bites.
It was like a little rice chip with some with a teeny bit of tuna, a tiny piece of eggplant.
What else was there?
A rolled-up piece of squash.
And there was something else.
I can't remember.
All I know was looking at it.
I was like, this is the tiniest food I've ever eaten.
And I was full.
I was so full.
I was sick.
Yo, it's crazy.
Like the main course is probably like two ounces of pork.
And then I was looking at this food and I'm like, it takes two hours.
They make it on the spot.
It's fresh from the farm.
The point is this.
I'm sitting there and I said to my wife, I was like, I am so insanely full.
And they've given us just the tiniest amount of food imaginable, but it was over a long period of time.
And it was very little carbs.
It was a lot of vegetables, proteins, and some carbs from fresh vegetables and fruits.
Like they did one thing where it was peaches and like a hybrid apricot peach thing.
And it was like olive oil and basil.
It was amazing.
And then I was thinking about like videos like this where the lady is like, I'm going to get an industrial box of Nutragrain bars and eat it all today.
And I was like, poor people are eating like 15 pancakes and rich people are eating tiny pieces of meat over two hours.
So they're thin and they're full.
And poor people aren't getting the nutrition because they're gargling boxes of Cheerios.
So their body's like, I didn't get enough protein.
Eat more.
And they're like, just keep eating because I'm not full.
Meanwhile, I ate like three apple wedges this big.
And I was like, so full.
Real food.
tate brown
I'm going to use EBT at that restaurant.
scott greer
After you sign up for ice, hopefully they'll issue an EBT card for an experiment.
brett dasovic
20 to 25% of Coke sales are tied to EBT and Snap.
tate brown
Wow.
unidentified
Yo.
brett dasovic
It's short to stock.
tim pool
Oh, wait, is this the video?
I think I found it.
Let's go.
Here we go.
unidentified
So just those two.
scott greer
That's an aggressive move.
unidentified
They didn't say this movie.
tate brown
Trump ain't playing.
serge du preez
Yeah, I was going to say, I love the captioning on all these.
This is so funny, dude.
tate brown
We're not playing any more skins.
unidentified
Oh, my God.
That's crazy.
Not even the juice.
serge du preez
Yeah, juice is not.
tim pool
You know, they're not talking about orange juice.
They're talking about cooling.
unidentified
yeah of course They got 67.
Yeah.
tate brown
How should she get backwards?
unidentified
So what's the rest of my jackets?
scott greer
Oh, man.
unidentified
That's the thing.
tate brown
Even the Reese is magical.
This is magical.
scott greer
Surely magical.
Not the Reese.
That's the vote, like the juice.
That settles it.
brett dasovic
It's Reese's, not Reese's.
It's settled.
unidentified
Cool stuff is boring.
It's boring right now.
They don't even take it.
tate brown
It was like Reese's health.
tim pool
I will vote for Trump 10 times.
scott greer
Reese's protein.
tate brown
Plus, peanuts in it.
It's healthy.
tim pool
Just for this.
Just for banning the sugary garbage from people's benefits.
I would vote for Trump, Trump Jr., Eric Trump, Laura Trump, Ivanka, Ivana, all of them.
I know Ivana, rest in peace, but all of them, every single one.
Just for this.
phil labonte
I wonder what this is, how much this is going to affect the resale value of Snap benefits because you know they were selling.
They wouldn't have been selling.
If you still question that, it's going to go down.
tim pool
I'd appreciate it better than that.
But back in Seattle, people would do that outside the stores.
They'd be like, hey, what are you getting in there?
And then someone would be like, I'm just going to get some chips.
And they'd be like, let me buy them for you.
Just give me the money.
They would do a one-for-one.
People would be like, yeah, okay, whatever.
And they'd be like, how much is the best?
It's $1.50.
It's $1.50.
I'll buy them for you.
That's what they do.
And then they take that money from the benefits and they go buy drugs.
Here's the crazy thing.
You know, I like Seattle.
When I first moved there, I was broke.
And I had a handful of change.
I think I had like $2.50 in just pennies, nickels, and dimes.
And I walked into a gas station and I grabbed a sandwich.
It was like $1.49.
And I put on the counter.
And then I was like, let me, I'm sorry, dude.
I apologize for all the coins.
That's all I got.
And he goes, bro, you have all the sandwiches.
And I was like, what?
And he was like, it's 11.
We're going to throw them out.
Just take them.
And I was like, let's go.
He put them all in a bag.
And I was like, Seattle.
You know, it's just too bad that a bunch of lefty whack-aloons took over because that was all right.
tate brown
Yeah, when you watch Frasier, Seattle looks like the peak of human civilization.
And you go there now and it's just like Mad Max.
It's really sad.
brett dasovic
It's so decadent, bad.
tim pool
Monorail.
They have a functional monorail.
Oh, it did.
I don't know.
The space needle.
So apparently it's like really hard to get into now, I guess.
tate brown
Really?
tim pool
Those were the days, man.
You go up there and you say, I'd like to go to this restaurant.
It is kind of creepy what's happening too with population size.
I think, you know, I know I bring it up a lot, but I feel like people just really aren't paying attention to the social order collapse that is happening around us.
Just in terms of there's not enough people to sustain the system.
Nobody had babies.
Economic collapse was this beginning of the end.
tate brown
Yeah.
Yeah, there's this, there's this YouTuber Gerbert Johnson.
He's like 18 or something.
And he makes these videos talking about how like there's no other young people around.
And he makes video after video and he's like being very frank.
And he's just like bringing on these other guys to talk about.
And it's like, everyone is noticing that's young, that there's not many young people around in some of these public spaces.
scott greer
And oh, yeah, it's rapidly declining.
We're only like 4.5% of the population is young men anymore.
tate brown
It's like, that's how I feel.
And like, yeah, you watch his videos, like, shows the graphs and stuff.
I'm like, okay, so I'm not crazy.
Like, it's actually this bad.
phil labonte
Yeah, it's actually that bad.
tate brown
Yeah.
phil labonte
I mean, Tim talks about it all the time.
There's like, what, 30% fewer Gen Z than there is of millennials.
tate brown
It's making it harder to find spouses.
I mean, I've said it before, but where the hose at is a very salient question.
I don't know where they are.
scott greer
And they complain about good men scarcity.
Where are the good men?
They can't find them.
They're stuck playing video games, apparently.
But no, the one positive fact is that the national crime level, they believe is due to fewer young men.
Now, obviously, that's not an effect in places like D.C., Baltimore, Memphis, Jackson.
But nationally, we have fewer young men to commit crime.
It's not going to be 55-year-old guys committing most of the crime.
tate brown
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, it's going to be, it's going to be interesting because I don't think the cities are going to shrink at all.
Like, we don't see any indication that cities are going to shrink.
It's just going to be the countryside and the smaller towns are going to be completely gone.
And the dynamic is going to be really rough for people that are still out in the countryside.
I mean, it's going to be like third world level conditions within like 30, 40 years.
phil labonte
Yeah.
The fact that there aren't people to replace the people that are dying is going to, it's going to make a big impact on not just finding a spouse or whatever, but like you're going to have a loss of ability to do things.
Like the ability to maintain the infrastructure is actually in question.
It's not just a matter of, oh, there's not going to be enough people to pay for Social Security.
It's there's not going to be enough people to maintain the internet, to maintain the power lines.
Look at Detroit.
Was that?
tim pool
Look at Detroit.
tate brown
Right.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
This is what's going to happen to every major city.
Detroit is what happens when you have population decline.
And that is happening now.
Democrats are like, I have an idea.
Let's tell everybody.
Tell everybody to get abortions, don't have kids, and then we'll open up the borders.
Yeah, so I think the problem we face right now is Trump may be trying to reverse all of this, but Democrats, whether it was intentional or otherwise, and a lot of people say it was, kick this off, and there is no remedy.
Certainly Trump can say we're going to deport all these people, but you cannot create 18-year-olds tonight.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
So he's cooked.
It's going to get weird.
phil labonte
It's going to get weird.
tate brown
I think there's some things that people are downplaying.
Like college is going to be really an essential matriculation for young people because it's going to be the last time in your adult life you're going to be surrounded by people your own age.
So you're seeing a lot of people right now that are skipping college that are Zoomers are like really struggling to meet friends and find spouses and these sorts of things.
tim pool
There won't be college.
Colleges are already starting to shut down because there's no 18 year olds to enroll.
tate brown
Right.
tim pool
So they're not making any money anymore.
tate brown
There's still these massive state universities and these sorts of things.
tim pool
And what is Trump doing?
He's cutting their funding.
So you combine the fact that Trump is going after their funding and the fact that there's no 18 year olds to actually sign up and they're going to start shutting down.
tate brown
Well, I'm saying they're definitely shuttering schools.
I mean, they're shuttering elementary schools and everything.
tim pool
I'm actually really excited for this because, you know, I've been to Columbia in New York and I've seen the campus and everything.
It's going to be really cool when young teenagers are there in like 10 years and they're going to be like, we don't go to the east wing of the campus anymore.
It's abandoned.
Some say there are gangs.
I heard there's ghosts and it's going to be just like this really creepy rundown place and there's going to be like old man Franks, the old professor of communist theology or whatever they call it because they're religious and it's going to be like lurking in the hallways.
Some say the old communist professors are still lurking in the hallways and if they catch you, they'll turn you Marxist.
tate brown
Well, that's the thing that's going to suck is the cities like New York and LA are not going to shrink.
Like those cities are going to be huge forever.
scott greer
And those schools are probably going to be the ones that are going.
tate brown
The most left-wing that's where all the jobs are going to be.
I mean, that's the trend so far.
Like they've got people.
tim pool
There are people who live in rural areas, bro, and they always will, and they're not going to abandon it.
The issue for cities is that it's city people not having kids.
So they're growing.
It's immigration that's growing them, not human birth.
scott greer
Well, they recruit from the suburbs.
Those kids, the generation before, have the kids out in the suburbs or rural.
And then the kids want to move to the cool cities, which is just a handful of cities.
tim pool
I'm pretty sure we covered this numerous times that population growth in the U.S. is driven by immigration, not by births.
tate brown
Yeah, Native Americans are declining as a share of the population, like in raw numbers.
tim pool
Well, I mean, since Columbus arrived.
tate brown
Well, like actual Native Americans.
scott greer
The other type of native men.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
Like me.
But no, but yeah, I mean, it's like, okay, yes, the population is declining, but it's like these people, the jobs just aren't there anymore in the smaller towns, especially.
I mean, like the Rust Belt exhibit A. And those people didn't just vanish.
They moved to like major cities.
tim pool
Cities, cities.
tate brown
Surbs of major cities.
tim pool
The cost of living in cities is too great.
scott greer
They'll go for it.
That's where the jobs are.
That's what the social life is.
tim pool
Jobs aren't going.
Listen, whenever a population in nature reaches its equilibrium, everybody is starving and suffering.
When there's just enough food to survive, you are sickly and starving.
We have this with the deer.
Every year, there's warnings that go out like, if people don't hunt the deer, the deer eat all available leaves and garbage, and then there's too many of them, and they're all sickly and like covered in lesions.
It's disgusting.
That's what's going to happen to these cities as population declines.
Sure, people in the suburbs are going to try and look for jobs, but literally everybody will.
So you'll have big cities full of disease and scum, which will cause an inverse effect of people leaving the cities.
So it's an ebb and a flow.
This is how it goes.
Look, tell me why Detroit's not growing.
It's a city.
brett dasovic
Detroit is actually Detroit.
Detroit is actually very different now than it was 10 years ago.
unidentified
It is.
brett dasovic
It's like it looks completely different now than it did 10 years ago.
tim pool
Yeah, but you're talking about like in-city gardens on rooftops with a bunch of hippies who pay $100 a month to live in a studio apartment.
tate brown
Like the population stopped shrinking.
The thing is, the way that Western liberal democracies are designed is the cities are too big to fail and they can't collapse.
The only way to collapse a city is like South Africa.
scott greer
I mean, there are cities in rapid decline.
I mean, there are off-market cities that no one wants to move to, like Baltimore.
But the big cities.
brett dasovic
It's been that way for a long time, though.
scott greer
LA, D.C., even San Francisco has reversed some of the exodus that it had.
Seattle, as we were talking about, all these cities are still going to have people go there.
brett dasovic
And even with less people having kids, there is still that dream for people in the small towns to move to the big city.
And that's just like baked into the culture here in America.
scott greer
And there's been a massive brain drain from the small towns because they feel like there's not any jobs for them there.
And they feel the only jobs they have are in these major urban areas.
And there's fewer people their age there.
I mean, there's, you know, middle America is definitely aging.
There's not as many people there for them to socialize with and marry.
And so the places you want to socialize with people your age and find, you know, a spouse, you have to go to the city.
brett dasovic
New York, or yeah, New York has like its own propaganda arm where the guy goes around and he's like, show me your apartment.
It's like 600.
It's like, it's like the size of a lot.
Yeah, it's a closet.
It's like I paid $900 to live in something that's as wide as my shoulders.
tate brown
I paid $1,600 for a 10 by 6 room.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
Good grief.
tate brown
Yeah.
But you do it.
It's like people do it.
Millions of young Americans do it.
And you can laugh.
You can call them stupid.
It's like, that's the way the market is.
And people are willing to pay that price.
It is what it is.
And it's not all liberals either.
You meet a lot of conservatives in places like D.C. and New York that are young.
It's a big emerging, big emerging scene, I guess you would say.
tim pool
The state of Michigan over the past 10 years has gained 200,000 new residents.
brett dasovic
I'm saying the city doesn't look like it looked 10 years ago.
It's no longer worn, you know, it's no longer beat up in the same way.
tate brown
And even without food, you can look at like the UK.
I mean, London continues to grow.
Every young person in the UK continues to move to London for work, and they are a net importer of food, like one of the largest net importers of food in the world.
tim pool
Oh, whoa.
tate brown
I mean, UK is we only have one city, basically.
tim pool
So Detroit just reversed this trend from 2015 until 2022.
The city was declining by large numbers.
2020 was the biggest minus 32,000, but obviously COVID.
And in 2023, it turned around with an increase of 1,852.
And as of 2024, it gained an additional 12,487.
2025 has not released numbers yet.
brett dasovic
Like, I was going based off silly, like, I had been there several times, like skating when I was younger.
And it was just like, that was actually awesome for skating because it was so run down.
There was abandoned buildings everywhere.
There was awesome stuff to skate.
And now a lot of that stuff has been gentrified.
And like my, like, I had friends out there who were buying houses back then with like one job and they were then like flipping these houses and becoming rent.
You know, they were renting out places to people because they got the property for next to nothing.
And now a lot of those houses have been bought up and it's gentrified in a lot of ways.
And the city is beautiful downtown.
tate brown
That's that's even like where I'm from, Memphis, that's happening now.
It's like the downtown, the riverfront is gentrifying.
tim pool
I'd also like to add to this, however, that timeframe that shows population growth, what does it coincide with?
brett dasovic
What were the years?
tim pool
2020 was when there was a mass exodus and it slowly reversed to where they're up 13,000.
That was the Biden years.
We're looking at all this population growth.
Yeah, that was mass illegal.
brett dasovic
It was all those people in the plains in the middle of the night being shipped there over here.
tim pool
Yeah, it probably was.
scott greer
I can't remember if Detroit.
tim pool
If people aren't having kids, where are the people coming from?
tate brown
Well, people are draining out the countryside.
Yeah, because it's borne out by census data.
And I don't like that.
It's a sad, like my family's from a small town in Illinois, and that city's gone.
That town is gone.
But where are they?
They're all in the suburbs of Chicago or Milwaukee or Memphis.
scott greer
It's not that they're organically growing that population there.
It's that other people are leaving from small towns and they're going there.
And that place has a huge population decline while the city gains from that.
I mean, there is also the migrants that were going there.
I don't know if they were shipping them to Detroit.
They were picking these random off-market cities to send a bunch of them to.
But it was all dependent on public benefits.
And they would go where the best public benefits were, which were Chicago, Boston, New York.
tim pool
Fact check false.
In the U.S., the landscape has shifted since the COVID-19 pandemic.
Between 2020 and 2021, rural areas are actually growing with net domestic migration around 0.47% compared to negative and near-zero rates in prior years.
Correspondingly, urban migration rates are dipping.
Young adults in particular are moving to small towns and rural areas the highest rate in nearly a century, drawn by affordability, natural amenities, and flexibility of remote work.
Yeah, this is since 2020.
tate brown
Yeah, that's post-COVID.
So it's like the two years after COVID, everyone.
scott greer
Now they're forcing everyone to go back to the office.
tim pool
We are seeing population growth in places like Detroit for an obvious reason.
Joe Biden brought in 10 to 20 million illegal immigrants and started flying them to various cities.
But if the argument is that rural areas are shrinking and cities are recruiting from rural areas, at least economic research service and New York Post say that is not correct.
People who live in these cities are actually moving to small towns because the property is cheaper.
At least that's been the experience I've seen.
Like, dude, the crazy thing is out here in the middle of nowhere, we got bungalows for half a million dollars.
This is two bedrooms.
But if you, if you want to live in New York, it's impossible, literally impossible if you're Gen Z to live in New York unless you're rich.
scott greer
We'd have to look at the long-term change from like, say, 2000 or 1990 to see the change in how the heartland is.
I mean, we've gained population since 1990.
And some of that is actually coming.
And some of the rural increase is actually coming from the same migrants.
Because, I mean, look at like Springfield, Ohio.
I mean, that's not quite a small town.
Or, well, that is a small town, but that's not quite super small town.
But it's all of its population growth was from all these Haitians showing up.
tim pool
I just got to say, I feel like anybody who's been to a big city as of recent has, if you're choosing to pay attention, you've noticed the buildings where you're like, it's a skyscraper.
And you're like, I wonder what they do in there.
And then you notice the windows?
Garbage, garbage, garbage, garbage, garbage, garbage, empty, empty, empty, naked guy.
I was in Chicago for the fourth, and we stay at Trump, and there's a building right next to it.
And you're like, I wonder what they do in there.
And then it's just like a bunch of garbage.
And I always wondered that like in New York under de Blasio, he was talking about basically evacuating these big buildings because of COVID.
People were leaving.
He was going to buy them up for pennies on the dollar.
I think the issue for a lot of people is you can't see when the buildings are becoming vacant.
You don't see who's in that building on the 16th, 17th, 18th, 19th floor.
It's just a skyscraper.
And people are walking around buying food.
But this is the data that we've been seeing for some time now that people are leaving the big cities.
We did.
And that was part of the ongoing trend of people being like, you know why we left?
Couldn't afford property.
And I was making good money.
This is back in like 2018.
I was making real good money on YouTube.
I was wealthy by New York standard.
Well, I would say top 20% New York standards, which is which is a lot of money, probably half a million a year.
And I was like, I can't afford a house here.
So I was like, what about Jersey?
Cannot afford a house in Jersey.
It is crazy.
And then I was like, South Jersey, I can't.
So I bought a house in South Jersey.
And then we were there and the laws were draconian during COVID.
And we didn't even have as bad as most people.
And I was like, we better get out of here.
So we went to Western Maryland.
And then we were like, that was a mistake.
West Virginia.
The trend, as far as I can tell, and everything I've been seeing is that people are fleeing cities.
So when we see data showing cities are growing, the only explanation, Joe Biden's mass immigration.
tate brown
Certainly immigration numbers are like juicing, juicing it.
But like, I mean, maybe in like post-COVID, there was a bump and like a return out of cities.
But if you look at like since the 1970s, 1980s, the industrialization, like it's been a huge emptying out.
And this is replicated across the entire West.
scott greer
And the small towns were receiving the same migrant surges as them.
And it was sometimes more noticeable, like in Springfield, Charleroi, and all these other various people.
tim pool
When we're tracking young Americans, for which there are very few, they're moving to small towns.
At least that's what we see in the data.
That's what we've seen.
And we've talked about for quite a bit.
What I'm saying is there are no young people.
That's true.
And they predicted this after the market crashed in 07 or with the start of the market crash.
And they said there will be a shortage of 18-year-olds in 18 years because no one's having families now.
And I didn't realize at that time they were talking about me because I was in my early 20s.
And that's when historically I should have been having a family.
But I was sleeping on floors and couches.
There was no way I was going to have a family.
And I was trying to apply for jobs.
I couldn't find anything.
So me and all my friends, we were couch surfing and doubling up in studio apartments.
We didn't have kids then and we were supposed to.
And now there's this huge age gap.
So what's going to happen to these big cities when all of the 70-year-olds die?
They're not retiring.
They won't retire.
Holy crap.
For the love of all this.
Holy hire.
Retire.
They won't do it, but they are going to die.
And then what happens when they do?
And there's no 18.
We're going to need 25-year-olds in a few years, and there aren't any.
So who's going to do these jobs?
phil labonte
This is exactly why Musk is betting.
And Musk and a lot of people in the tech world are betting on automation, betting on robots.
Whether or not it'll be successful, I can't say, but that's the bet they're making.
tim pool
So it's going to be a handful of ultra-wealthy people who own fleets of robots.
And you're going to go to New York, and there's going to be robots everywhere doing everything.
And you're going to be like, wow, that's a hard R, man.
We don't, is it clank up.
We're allowed, you're allowed to do that.
You know what I mean?
tate brown
Don't kill me, robots.
brett dasovic
I wonder if Styx's audience takes offense to that.
tim pool
I was thinking that's their name.
I was thinking that.
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phil labonte
Gee, I wonder.
tim pool
All right, we're going to grab your rumble rants and super chats.
All right.
Micah.Johnson says, Phil, regarding two weeks ago, I feel like if people gain weight while in a deficit, they should stop dieting and start powering the grid.
They've broken thermodynamics.
Ha, keep up the good work, guys.
phil labonte
I think he's talking about calories in versus calories out.
tim pool
The issue is: I really can't stand the overly simplistic, like Neil deGrasse Tyson.
phil labonte
That's true.
tim pool
It's just calories and calories up.
No, it's not.
If you are eating literally nothing but carbohydrates and not protein, you are going to imbalance your system.
Your system is not going to be able to output energy and it's going to accumulate.
So you will just get fat while being depressed and slovenly and lazy and be like, I don't understand why everything hurts all the time.
So this argument where it's like, just calories in, calories up, you'll lose weight.
Not correct.
It's not correct.
phil labonte
It's absolutely correct.
If you eat a thousand, if you are out there burning 2,000 calories.
tim pool
How do you burn 2,000 calories if you don't have protein to move your muscles?
phil labonte
If you're burning 2,000 calories a day and you're only taking in a thousand calories, you are going to lose weight.
You will burn your muscles away, yes, but you will lose weight.
tim pool
So the problem with this is it is one of these technically correct statements that doesn't help anybody actually lose weight.
So that's what's the really annoying thing about Neil deGrasse Tyson saying all that matters is calories in, calories out, and you'll lose weight.
Do people want to burn off their muscle and be fat with no ability to move their skeleton?
No.
Do they want to be sickly and diabetic?
No.
They want to be fit with good muscle mass and feel energized and not be depressed.
And that is not calories in calories out.
phil labonte
That's what people should go for.
That is not what people, that is not what people actually are.
They don't cognitively know that that's what they want.
When I tell people, when they say, you know, they're like, oh, you know, I want to shape my body so I don't lift muscle.
I only do cardio.
I don't lift weights because I don't want to look bulky, right?
That is, you're not, that is a, that is a misnomer that you're going to get bulky just by lifting weights.
You shape your body by lifting weights.
If you want to have like a nice butt, you have to lift it.
tim pool
The point is, if there is someone who is obese and you tell them calories in, calories out is all that matters, do you think they will lose weight?
phil labonte
If they're obese, they most likely will not just simply lose weight because they have multiple problems.
But if you're talking about how to lose weight, the amount, what?
tim pool
What kind of weight?
phil labonte
Well, I mean, that's a totally different topic.
tim pool
So here's the issue.
Nobody who's saying I want to lose weight means I want to shave off muscle mass.
This is the problem I have with people going, you want to lose weight?
Calories in, calories out.
No, there is a person who's fat.
They're eating 700 carbs per day and 13 protein, 13 grams of protein.
And they're getting like 50 grams of fat.
And they're going like, I'm only eating 2,000 calories a day, but I'm gaining weight like crazy.
Okay, well, without protein, your muscles, your body's in starvation mode while storing as much as possible into fat.
You need to cut the carbs down, increase the protein and fat.
I can eat thousands of calories in meat and fats and not put on weight.
phil labonte
If you were to eat 3,000 calories a day in meats and fat and only burn 1,500, you will put on both muscle and fat.
tim pool
Agreed.
And if you eat, and if you eat 3,000 calories of carbs with no protein, you're going to gain massive fat.
phil labonte
But if you don't, if you don't lift and don't have resistance training, you're not going to put on muscle.
You will put on fat because your body can take protein and turn it into fat.
tim pool
So let's go.
Here's the point I'm making.
If a person who does not exercise is consuming calories in appropriate numbers of carbs, proteins, and fats, they will put on muscle whether they try to or not.
Men naturally do, especially young men because of testosterone.
It's a fact.
And you will produce more testosterone or at least the adequate amount you should have from eating fats.
If you do not have fat and you do not have protein and you're eating lots of carbs, men will not produce adequate amounts of muscle or testosterone because they're not getting the proper balance and the carbs will be stored as fat.
Calories and calories out is an overly simplistic statement that doesn't actually help anybody.
phil labonte
Yeah, I still, I disagree because the average person isn't going to make the kind of the macro decisions that you're talking about, right?
If you're an overweight person and the first steps that you have to take are to reduce your calories if you actually want to lose weight.
tim pool
Every single time this conversation comes up, or I should say, you know, not to be hyperbolic, 80% of the time, people tell me like, you know what, man, I was cutting down calories, but I wasn't losing weight and I couldn't figure it out.
And I'm like, were you exercising?
And they're like, I was trying, man.
It was just hard.
I wake up feeling sick.
And it's like, I had a friend who was morbidly obese when he was a kid and he couldn't figure it out.
And I'm like, bro, for breakfast, you had a bowl of frosted flakes.
For lunch, you had a bowl of macaroni and cheese.
And for dinner, you had a bunch of, you had some sandwiches, you had some peanut butter and jelly sandwiches.
You ate nothing but carbs.
Your body can't function without the fat and protein to operate.
So you're just getting sick.
phil labonte
Proper nutrition versus how to lose weight, right?
If you're saying you have to take, you have to have proper nutrition while you're trying to lose weight.
Yes, that's true.
tim pool
So you're saying that if there's a morbidly obese person or just a generally obese person, clearly their diet is imbalanced.
They're not exercising enough.
You would not confer to them the requirement of proper nutrition.
I'm telling you that if you're, if you're would you hire, would you hire, would you hire a personal trainer who says, doesn't matter what you eat, just eat carbs, but don't eat too many.
phil labonte
No, I wouldn't, I mean, I wouldn't hire a personal trainer in the first place.
tim pool
No, no, no, that's, that's not my question.
Would you go to a gym where the guy says, you, you walk in and say, I'm trying to get, I'm trying to lose weight would you hire a guy who says it doesn't matter what you eat just eat a bunch of carbs as long as you eat 1900 calories of carbs if you're doing 2500 if you're burning if your metabolic rate is burning 2500 calories a day and you're going to take in 1900 calories a day and your goal is to just lose weight then you're going to lose weight again that that's that's you're you're adding context that i'm that i'm this is the point specifically avoiding you're ignoring the point that i'm making
the average person who wants to lose weight is trying to burn fat It does not help them to say calories in, calories out, have a nice day.
phil labonte
It does more than allow than saying, oh, just eat whatever you feel like and don't burn any.
tim pool
Or you can just say, cut the carbs out, eat more protein.
You'll feel better.
phil labonte
You don't know that.
tim pool
They're going for walks.
phil labonte
You don't know that because if they cut the carbs out and eat more protein, that doesn't mean that they're going to be in a caloric deficit.
And if they're not in a caloric deficit while getting proper nutrition, they're not going to lose weight.
tim pool
So the average young guy who eats nothing but protein will put on a lot of muscle because testosterone naturally will develop muscle.
phil labonte
If he's lifting.
tim pool
You don't have to be lifting.
Men naturally will put on muscle.
There is, of course, an increase in muscle mass you get from lifting and you should be lifting, but men naturally will put on muscle through testosterone.
This happens through development.
At a certain point, you go through sarcopenia, your muscle starts breaking down unless you're exercising.
But young guys with proper fat will produce testosterone.
phil labonte
Body can turn excess protein into fat.
tim pool
Indeed, it can, but that's through work.
If you're eating nothing, yes, it's gluconeogenesis.
It is difficult for the body to do.
So if you are telling a fat person, you can eat whatever you want, just don't eat that much, they're going to remain sick, confused, and understand why it's so hard for them to go for a run.
They're going to say, runs are painful and I get sick and I throw up and I pass out.
And you're going to say, you're eating bad food.
You're not sleeping right.
You're not drinking water.
phil labonte
But if they're out of shape, runs are going to be hard and painful anyways.
If you're in shape, runs are hard and painful.
So, I mean, like, I understand what you're saying, that nutrients is important.
But at the end of the day, if you're getting, if you're getting proper nutrients and you're not in a caloric deficit, you won't lose weight.
tim pool
So the point is, obviously, you need a caloric deficit, but telling someone who has excess fat, they can eat anything and they will lose a weight and deficit is wrong.
phil labonte
I mean, it is factually wrong.
tim pool
It's not independent.
So it's factually wrong.
You cannot function to lose the weight if you're malnourished.
If you're eating wrong food.
course you can't if you're if you're not if you're not properly if you're not getting proper new Like that lady we saw with an industrial box of nutrient.
phil labonte
Usually, well, I mean, it's because they're eating bad food, but also because of the sedentary lifestyle.
Like if you're eating bad food and sitting around, then you're going to put on a lot of weight.
tim pool
And can you reverse a sedentary lifestyle if you're not getting proper protein and fat?
phil labonte
I mean, you can start to, yeah.
By just getting up and moving around, yes.
tim pool
Largely, no.
Your muscles can operate without protein.
phil labonte
Your muscles will not repair properly, but you, and your muscles will still break.
Your muscles can still be broken.
tim pool
If they're not eating protein, how do they build muscle to be able to exercise?
phil labonte
They're not necessarily going to build muscle if they're just looking to burn fat.
tim pool
So how do they exercise to burn fat if their muscles don't work?
phil labonte
Your muscles don't stop working like that.
tim pool
If you're not eating protein, will you put on muscle mass?
phil labonte
If you're not eating protein, you're not going to build muscle mass.
No.
tim pool
Okay.
So if you have some muscle and you start working out, but you're eating no protein, will your muscles eventually break down till you can't work out?
phil labonte
I mean, it's not going to happen overnight and it's not going to be something that takes, you know, that happens quickly.
I mean, you're not just going to go ahead and be like, okay, so I started exercising a month ago and I lost all my muscle mass or now I lost all of my ability to move and now I only have body fat and I have bones and body fat.
tim pool
Improve your ability to burn calories if your muscles are breaking down.
phil labonte
You do want to build muscle to help your metabolism.
tim pool
So what's the proper recommendation to a person who's overweight?
phil labonte
The first thing the first thing that you tell people when they're overweight is to start taking walks, right?
Because if they're overweight.
tim pool
But I'm saying, like, we're creating a plan for someone who's serious about losing weight.
We don't just say calories and calories out.
phil labonte
No, if you're a nutritionist that's making a plan for someone or if you're trying to make a plan, yes.
But most people take in too many calories overall, right?
No matter what their food, what their food intake is.
tim pool
And there's a difference between calories from carbs and protein and fat.
phil labonte
Marginally, yes.
tim pool
Not marginally.
Fat is used to produce hormones in your body.
Protein is used to produce muscle.
Carbohydrates are used by the cells to produce to power the cells with glucose, the mitochondria.
So if you're eating nothing but carbs, you're producing excess glucose.
If you're nothing but protein, your body will build muscle mass till its natural apex and then start converting through gluconeogenesis into sugars to use to burn for your brain.
phil labonte
Well, it'll start converting to sugars, which it will store.
tim pool
Just gluconeogenesis.
phil labonte
It also stores fat.
tim pool
But only after you've reached your muscle capacity.
phil labonte
I mean, that depends on, that depends on the person.
But even still, the fact of the matter is, if you're eating too many calories, even if they're all protein, you will put on.
tim pool
There's a difference.
phil labonte
What?
tim pool
But there is a difference.
phil labonte
Either way, you have to, if you want to burn calories, or if you want to lose weight, you have to be in a caloric deficit.
So that's what the situation.
tim pool
That's not a dispute.
The point is telling someone calories in, calories out doesn't help them.
phil labonte
Well, okay, so fine.
If you think that if the argument that you're making is that it takes more than just calories in, calories out to have someone in a healthy way lose weight, then fine.
Okay.
tim pool
That's the problem I have with Neil deGrasse Tyson because then people are like, I had a bowl of frosted flakes, but it was a small bowl and I still feel sick.
How is it so easy for you guys to skate?
I've dealt with this my whole life.
I'm like, bro, you had a bowl of macaroni and cheese for breakfast.
I had a steak.
I feel like a million bucks.
And they're just like, I don't understand.
And I'm like, if you want to exercise consistently, you need protein.
If you want to regulate your hormones, you need fat.
If you're not getting fat and protein, your muscles and your hormones are out of whack and you're putting on weight like crazy.
Anyway, that was a fun debate.
Let's read the last few super chats.
CJ Johnstone says, NCSB 50 is one vote away from getting constitutional care in North Carolina coming up later this month.
Let's go.
Right on.
Jane H. Wilder says, I saw the Charlestown protesters last weekend.
They needed to calm down.
I thought they were going to throw out a hip.
brett dasovic
What were they protesting about last week?
tim pool
Trump.
brett dasovic
Well, I know that, but like, what specifically?
tim pool
I don't know.
Someone protested my cyber drug today.
Yeah, you missed it, Date, after you guys left.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
tim pool
We drove, we went to Stuckey's.
I don't know when this video is coming up, so I probably should announce this right away, but there's this spot in, I think it's in Inwood, West Virginia.
It's Stuckey's at Superior Market, and it's this guy.
He just opened this new restaurant.
He opened like a year ago, and he's got a wing challenge.
It's if you can finish 10 hot wings within 10 minutes and then chill for 10 minutes, you win $150.
Tate tried it.
He got four and a half wings down.
He holds the record.
They were like, dude, it's real food.
I was like, my concern was he's going to put weird garbage in it to make it seem spicy.
tate brown
We watched him right in front of us.
tim pool
Peppers that he flies in imports, blend it up to make a sauce, toss the wings in them, and the wings are bomb as it is.
And Tate's strategy was slam him as fast as possible.
And then he couldn't, he couldn't do it.
tate brown
My throat like closed up.
I was actually like kind of scared for him.
phil labonte
Did you have blue cheese with him or ranch?
tate brown
Oh, you got a raw dog them.
phil labonte
Really?
tate brown
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
And you have to finish one.
And he was, you were licking the bones clean.
tate brown
I also stuck a drumstick until it's sparkling.
phil labonte
Eat the gristle.
tim pool
But I want to see if anybody can actually do it because no one here could.
And we're going to put up a video for Boonies, the wing challenge.
Brian tried it.
He got two weeks wings down.
He's like, I'm done.
And then Sean.
tate brown
He was fucking mad, Smack, too.
tim pool
He looked like he was going to murder somebody as he was eating the wings because he was just like, and I was like, I think he might pull it off.
He's like, I'm done.
And then Tate was literally crying.
tate brown
And I was like, yeah, I was on the floor crying, surrounded by my co-workers.
tim pool
So I'm just going to challenging anybody.
Go to Stuckey's beat the wing challenge, 150 bucks.
I feel like someone out there can do it.
And it's like an hour and a half from DC, so it's not super far away for those that live out here.
And I want to see, film a video of it.
We'll post it.
We'll share it.
We were talking about doing an event there where we get like 10 people to actually try to beat the wing challenge.
And the dude there is super excited.
He's like, let's go, man.
He makes the sauce himself.
I was impressed.
He's like, he blended it up.
We filmed him doing it.
We were like, it's legit.
tate brown
Yeah.
tim pool
And I had just regular barbecue wings because, you know, I'm a sane person.
All right, let's go.
Mason says there are two camps to the don't say naughty words millennials.
One that went to college and were brainwashed, and the second that watched the unhinged degeneracy of that past decade and are saying, Frick that.
Yeah, that's true.
I see what you're saying on that one.
Makes sense.
All right, let's grab some more and see what we got going on here.
YouTube always give me the business.
YouTube frozen again.
YouTube likes to freeze.
unidentified
All right, let's go.
tim pool
All right.
CEO Fat Girl says, I don't very much care for the basketball Americans.
I don't know what that means.
Is that talking about the WNBA?
No, I'm confused by that statement.
And I don't care to elaborate any further.
Moving on.
Did you see the next super chat?
Here is Greg Duvier says Howard Stern wanted to be respected by the elites and stopped caring about the everyday man.
But it's because the everyday man was replaced by illegal immigrants who didn't speak Howard Stern's language.
And he was like, I don't want to be involved in it.
tate brown
Real.
brett dasovic
Imagine like 71-year-old Howard Stern's like, I'm retiring from radio.
And you're like, oh, thank God.
And he's like, I'm running for office.
tate brown
Running against Zoron.
scott greer
He's the last hope.
tim pool
I do like that meme where it's like, time to retire, grandma.
Where are we going?
To Congress.
And it's like the old woman in the wheelchair.
All right.
Let's see.
Kieran the Meatman says, Good Lord, guys, calories and calories out is true, but poor nutrition makes you feel like ish and makes it way harder to cut calories and work out.
unidentified
She just literally the point.
tim pool
When Neil deGrasse Tyson, who's fat and obese, says, All that matters is calories and calories out.
I run into these people every day who are fat, and they're like, I don't understand why I can't lose weight.
I'm cutting the calories.
And I'm like, because your hormones are imbalanced, because you're not eating protein, and you're just eating less garbage, but you're still eating garbage.
Like, you need proper nutrition and balance.
We're going to get to the uncensored portion of the show, my friends.
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And we're also working on for the Culture War Live shows.
We did one pilot, then we did three back-to-back.
The last one of this three-part series is Saturday.
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They did it on their own.
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And we hope to see you there.
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scott greer
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So thanks for having me on.
tim pool
Right on.
tate brown
You can find me on X and Instagram at RealTate Brown.
Maybe I'll have some updates on the weighing situation.
It'll maybe take a few days to percolate.
So I don't know.
Follow me there.
You'll find out.
tim pool
Bro, you're going to wake up in the middle of the night.
You're going to be like, it is happening.
unidentified
Yeah.
It's going to be some metamusil.
tim pool
We got him two scoops of ice cream afterwards, though.
tate brown
That was worth it.
I faked it long enough to get some ice cream out.
phil labonte
Ice cream is pretty awesome.
tate brown
No, I'm just kidding.
I needed that.
I was desperate.
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So you should tune in.
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Thank you guys.
phil labonte
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tim pool
We will see you all at rumble.com/slash Timcast IRL in about 30 seconds.
Thanks for hanging out.
unidentified
Yo, vaccines, they're gone.
phil labonte
I took them all.
tim pool
So anyway, here's the story because you got to be careful on YouTube because they're fucking lunatics.
But I was talking to my.
Actually, so I woke up with an eye infection the other day.
And yeah, because, well, I got sick.
And then you rub your eyes and it spreads to your eye.
And sometimes it happens.
And it's fine now.
It's like, you know, but we had a baby.
So my wife was like, go to urgent care now.
And I was like, yeah, okay.
I'm not going to argue.
Whatever.
But I can't work.
I'm not going to come in.
And they told me it's, they told me exactly what I thought I was going to hear.
Like, you're sick?
You're coughing.
And I'm like, yeah, okay.
You probably rubbed your eyes while you were coughing or something.
It got in your eye.
You're probably going to be fine in a day or two.
So we'll give you the eye drops anyway.
And I was like, I know.
It's just because we got a baby and my wife's scared.
And it's, you know, you know.
phil labonte
It's worth it.
I mean, it's worth the effort.
tim pool
You know, I was fine this morning.
My voice is back.
I feel good.
It can work and all that stuff.
And then, but when I was there, I was like, I got a question, Doc, about this RFK stuff that they're the thymerosol and the vaccines.
And he was just like, you know, honestly, I'm not entirely sure.
And I'm like, but you're the doctor.
I was like, with vaccines being changed, like RFK Jr. saying many of them are not safe.
Thymerosol is actually bad and it's in flu.
I think it's in the flu shots.
And he was like, I don't know.
He's like, I got to be honest.
I was like, the question right now is, do we trust the government of today or yesterday?
Because the previous administration says vaccines are fine.
Take them all.
And now RFK Jr. is HHS and he's saying, no, it's not.
And they're going to argue he's a conspiracy theorist, but that's stupid bullshit because they argued before, but the government said so.
And now the government said so and they're saying no.
So what the fuck?
What do you do?
unidentified
What do you do?
phil labonte
That's the problem that Sarah and I are looking out because we're not sure what vaccines we should be giving to our kid when he's born.
We're like, we don't want this one because there's no reason for an infant to get that vaccine.
But what about these?
And can we stretch the stuff out?
And we have to look at the list of doctors and find out which doctors will actually not give us a ton of crap.
Oh, that's good.
That's nice.
tim pool
The bolts have fallen off the chair.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Two of them.
phil labonte
It's time for it.
Yeah, it's time for a new chair, Tim.
tim pool
This is a new chair.
phil labonte
Oh.
tate brown
Isn't that the old?
How long was that one in service for?
tim pool
That one broke too.
tate brown
Yeah, but how long was it in service for?
tim pool
I don't know, man.
These chairs break like crazy.
You know what it is?
It's like I do the morning show and the night show, so it's a lot of sick.
tate brown
Oh, he has a bullet.
unidentified
When they come, it might be from there.
scott greer
It might be from here.
It was on the table.
phil labonte
When they show up, they have to be built or they come built.
tim pool
I think they're partially built.
phil labonte
Partially, yeah.
You know what?
tim pool
I feel bad for Boston.
Like, they don't sponsor us or anything.
We just bought the chairs off Amazon, but maybe we need to get a real chair sponsor.
phil labonte
When you get them, actually, get blue Loctite and all the screws and stuff, put blue Loctite on it.
serge du preez
I feel like Ray.
tim pool
Let's just get bar stools.
serge du preez
Yeah.
phil labonte
That would be kind of sick.
tim pool
Your back.
phil labonte
Although that would be weird.
scott greer
You'd be like, yeah, varstool.
unidentified
You'd be in so much pain by the end of the show on their computer like this.
tate brown
Yeah.
That was awesome.
scott greer
I don't think the old people would come on here or anyone over the age of 40 would appreciate the bar stool setup.
tate brown
You know, they bring the things old people bring to the bleachers where it has like the cloth back on it that you can set up.
They'd be bringing that.
scott greer
Their backs would be destroyed.
They're like, yeah.
tim pool
You know, I was thinking we should do.
We should, we're talking to this dude about coming and working weekends because we have only like one or two people here on the weekends, but they're not doing media stuff.
They're doing like local, they're doing like administrative building stuff.
But I think it'd be cool if we did like a members-only live stream.
Well, I'll talk to this dude.
I don't want to say anything yet because we haven't hired anybody, but it's just like while you're here over the weekend, just go live while you're doing your job.
unidentified
No, but for real, because yeah, yeah, we did that that one day with the video games.
tate brown
Sorry, we did that one day with the video games.
That was a hit.
tim pool
But like, we have a dude here who's basically just reading the news.
He could just go live and hang out with the Discord members.
tate brown
Yeah.
tim pool
And then just be like, here's what we're looking at.
Here's, here's the news that we're doing it.
And I feel kind of bad because he'll be here by himself, largely.
Just like watching TV.
tate brown
It looks like schizophrenic.
Julian Assange, when he comes in here.
scott greer
When did you play video games with the audience?
tim pool
Right before the fourth, right?
tate brown
Yeah, it was the day before the fourth because we were like, there's no news and no one's paying attention to YouTube.
So you were just like, let's just stream it.
tim pool
Let's play Zelda.
And then I started playing Tears of the Kingdom for the first time.
And the opening tutorial for that is the most miserable experience of any video game I've ever played.
But the game is pretty awesome after the fact.
Talk about fucking awful.
unidentified
Oh.
tate brown
All video games like suck now.
tim pool
No, I did the Message Not Found glitch on Zelda because fuck them.
It's awesome, by the way.
So they launched with the Switch 2.
You can, in Zelda Tears of the Kingdom, you can build anything you want out of the parts they give you.
And there are these crazy videos from back when the game first came out of people building fucking crazy shit tanks.
And now they created this thing where you can make a QR code and share the build with other games, which has just unleashed all hell.
So people figured out how to inject code into the game using the QR system.
And so what happened was in the prologue of the game, your link, and he's got all this badass gear, and the sword he has cannot be broken.
In the game, your weapons break because weapons break.
So someone found a way to inject the code to make it so that in the normal gameplay, you have an unbreakable sword and you can attach crazy shit to it, making it super powerful and never lose it.
And so that's just like the first thing people have done to inject code.
But I bet they could do tons of other fucked up shit.
I hope that they don't patch it.
The coolest things about games is whenever they let you hack them.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
tate brown
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
So Nintendo should be like, oh, you figured out how to inject code into the game.
Have fun.
Don't give a shit.
You avoided your warranty, but by all means, do whatever the fuck you want.
phil labonte
Like in Halo 2, when you, like the whole BXR thing where you could use the BR to you could do a hit and then shoot them one time and it'd be like an instant kill.
That was a glitch.
In Halo 2, that was a big deal and everybody loved it.
And like nowadays, that's the kind of stuff that they would take out and piss people off.
tim pool
Street Fighter.
In Street Fighter 2, when they released the game, they made a mistake.
If you entered in moves back to back, they would string together in such a way that your opponent could not react to it.
They couldn't block.
They were called combos and it was a glitch.
You were supposed to be able to do a move, then block, then do a move.
And they were like, oh, shit.
So for instance, Ryu.
I love doing the basic combo of jump attack, fierce kick, right when you land, Hadouken, show where you can.
And there's no point at which your opponent can do anything about that attack.
It was a glitch.
It was a bug.
They called it a feature.
They said, actual, it's a skill move.
And if you can get good at it, you'll be better at the game.
If that came out today, they'd patch it out and say, sorry about that.
They'd eliminate the most popular function of the game.
serge du preez
Especially if it was Nintendo, Nintendo just hates anything, like anything that's even mildly, what's the word?
Like, I guess ingenuity.
They hate all that stuff.
tim pool
Don't update your Switches and your Zeldas and all that nonsense.
serge du preez
I hate that stuff.
scott greer
Helicopter parenting even ruined video games.
I knew.
tim pool
It did, man.
Bro, the original World of Warcraft, the most fun thing ever.
We call it glitch hopping.
This is fucking 20 years ago.
This guy was four when we were doing this.
Isn't that crazy?
unidentified
That's bad.
tim pool
And so there were various parts of the map that were inaccessible, but you could jump in a way that would glitch your character up higher and higher.
And so there were a whole bunch of places you can go.
You weren't supposed to go.
And they'd threaten you with a ban if they figured out you were going there.
But no one I ever knew got banned or suspended for it.
Then they were like, we're going to introduce flying the game, which ruined the game.
Flying ruined the fucking game.
They should have never introduced flying.
And then they patched objects over areas where you could glitch hop so you could never do it again.
Fucking killed the game.
Dude, it was crazy.
I'd play that game for hours.
It's probably good they did because that game's addictive.
And my friends, like, you're on, we would use Team Speak.
What did we use?
I think we used Team Speak.
What was the other one?
serge du preez
I don't remember.
tim pool
There was the other one.
serge du preez
It wasn't there elsewhere.
tim pool
And my friends, they'd be like, yo, where are you at right now?
I'll be like, bro, I have no fucking idea.
And they'd be like, I'm looking at you in the map.
You're like, where the fuck are you, dude?
And I'm like, I just jumped and jumped and jumped until I got into this weird continent.
And it was fun.
The area would just be flat with nothing in it.
We'd be running around, goofing off.
And then they were like, we're going to get rid of that.
The best thing was if you're playing Horde and you knew how to get underneath Stormwind, there was a part of the city where you could jump up and then fall through the wall and you'd be underneath the city yelling.
And then all the people in the city would be like, what the fuck?
There's horde in here.
Oh my God.
And then Blizzard was like, they're having fun.
Get rid of it.
phil labonte
That's dumb.
tim pool
Yup.
Fuck them.
phil labonte
There's a lot of stuff where, like, if there's a glitch and the fans like it, you should leave it.
scott greer
Oblivion made its name known for its hilarious glitches with the NPCs and stuff.
Oblivion was filled with it.
Kind of, you know, early 2000s, mid-2000s, as they're trying to make more advanced games.
There's so many glitches, but they made so many memes.
And now they're taking it away.
It's too clean cut, too cookie cut.
tate brown
Radical left.
tim pool
I just like to stress, you know, for these for these naysayers, back in the OG vanilla Warcraft, I had a tier 2 PvP gear.
It was fucking insane to get.
It was just insane.
Originally, to get the Field Marshal gear, you had to actually be one of the top-ranking PvP players in your, what do we call it?
It was like a server quadrant or something.
Because only some servers played against some servers.
Yo, I would play Alteric Valley non-stop.
You know, I love, oh man.
I bet I could do this today.
So I play Rogue.
Rogue was the best, but I had a bunch of characters.
We called them Toons.
And I had a bunch of level 60s.
I had like two or three.
I had a Priest.
I had, what did I have?
I think a mage, maybe.
I can't remember.
Yeah, I think it was a mage and a rogue, but Rogue was my main.
And you go to Alteric Valley, and I would always just solo cap towers.
It was fucking so much fun to just sneak into the tower with all the dudes standing there.
And then I would just back cap the tower, and then they would lose time, and it would contribute to the win.
And it was fun as fuck.
And then I remember I went back to play Legion when it came out, which is now like, what, 10 years ago?
And I was like, I wonder if it's still the same after all these years, you know, 10 years later.
And then sure enough, same fucking shit.
I loved it.
I was like, I'm going to sneak around with my rogue.
And I'm going to, and then I unlock Void Elf so I could use it teleport.
phil labonte
Void Elf?
I never played a lot.
I only played like a little bit of WoW.
Like, I didn't get very far at all.
tim pool
They made a.
Oh, I fucking loved it, dude.
People were so bad at the fucking game in 2006, they were like, you need to, you need to nerf rogues.
@cornshaq
You're too.
tim pool
Or no, no, no, I'm sorry, nerf warriors.
@cornshaq
They were like, rogues, you're too weak.
tim pool
You can't kill warriors.
And I was like, bro, if you're not bleeding, you're warriors.
You don't know the fuck you're doing.
And so for me, I had no problem in PvP against Warriors with the Rogue.
Yeah, but if you're PvP, the problem was straight DPS from a rogue was doing no damage because there are most.
So you had to do bleeds.
Stun, bleed, stun, bleed.
And garat, bleed, you know, hemorrhage, all that shit.
And then, but players were too stupid to learn the skills to play the game.
So they complained and they were like, okay, we're going to buff rogues because they're too weak.
And I'm like, I'm already fucking wiping everybody out in PvP.
And then they made me stronger.
But it's okay now.
They've dumbed the game down to the point to where it's stupid as fuck.
Raids used to mean something.
I remember my first raid, and I think it was like AQ.
And it was crazy to have 40 people playing one game.
We're like, this is nuts.
Now it's like, sign up for the queue and get placed with random people.
And it's like, you win in five seconds no matter what.
You don't even have to do anything.
phil labonte
People get pissed if they don't, like, if it's too much of a challenge, which is bad.
You know, it's like, I mean, those same people, if you put them, like, give them like Mega Man 3, they kill themselves.
Because that was like one of the hardest videos.
tim pool
Mega Man 1.
phil labonte
Mega Man 1 was.
tim pool
How could that be considered a game for children?
unidentified
What the fuck?
tim pool
Mega Man 3 was okay.
phil labonte
Was it 3 that was working?
tim pool
Well, so one was fucking nuts.
Two was crazy.
Three was wow.
Four was, this is a good game.
It's not so, you know, five and six were just like, wow, it's a lot of fun.
phil labonte
Okay.
tim pool
Oh, Mega Man 1 is fucking put your balls in a vice.
phil labonte
Super hard to finish.
tim pool
Insane.
phil labonte
Super hard to finish.
tim pool
Kid Icarus is also fucking ridiculous.
No one ever beat that game.
unidentified
No.
tate brown
What is it?
tim pool
It's a video game.
scott greer
It was on an ancient time period.
In the Middle Ages for you.
tate brown
I only played like Minecraft and like 2K.
tim pool
It's kind of sad for Gen Z because you have two games.
tate brown
We have Minecraft and Fortnite.
Prime Fortnite, I'm going to tell my kids about.
tim pool
Nah.
tate brown
You had to be there.
tim pool
You know, Fortnite just stole the format.
tate brown
Yeah, from PUBG.
tim pool
PUBG.
tate brown
And they made it better.
Well, double pump and public.
tim pool
Wasn't Fortnite supposed to be like a more advanced Minecraft?
And then PUBG happened and they were like, let's just rip off Battle Royale.
tate brown
Yeah, they had like a story mode that had no fighting in it.
tim pool
And you build houses.
tate brown
Yeah.
Rocket League's good.
Me and Callum play Rocket League a lot.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
He's really good at it.
tim pool
It's crazy how we had like hundreds of games and it was crazy, like snake rattle and roll.
Remember Skull and Crossbones?
Bro, Skull and Crossbones, dude.
That game was fucking weird.
phil labonte
I need to get a PC.
A game.
tim pool
I'm going to play a video of this fucking game.
Look at this game.
Skull and crossbones.
Look at this shit.
unidentified
Yes.
@cornshaq
What the?
However, defeating some of the harder bosses is going to be extremely challenging.
scott greer
This is real culture.
You missed out.
tim pool
Look at this.
unidentified
A little pirate guy, and he's throwing knives.
@cornshaq
Yeah.
Yeah.
tim pool
Oh, no.
@cornshaq
Through the castle-like area.
tim pool
One eye.
@cornshaq
Take out every enemy that we come across.
Once we've wiped out the 15.
tim pool
Let's start from the beginning.
What is this?
I remember how weird it was.
Like, what are these little symbols even?
@cornshaq
Drop down on the right side here where that arrow is.
The wizard is there and shoves us away, kidnapping the princess.
And now we were able to select from one of six levels with the seventh level being the final one that we'll do after we keep six.
tim pool
Look at these guys.
@cornshaq
You can do them in any order, but usually I just threw them straight in the cross.
scott greer
It's like a four-year castle right now.
phil labonte
A little Donkey Kong for you.
@cornshaq
In each of the memes, you have to defeat 15 enemies, whether this 10 pirate soldier guys remake it or whatever.
Or if they're this common pest.
What?
serge du preez
Envious.
tim pool
This was the peak of American culture right here, dude.
serge du preez
That was my NBA.
phil labonte
All those things flying around to kill you.
serge du preez
That was PS2 era.
tate brown
Yeah, I grew up on the PS2.
serge du preez
PlayStation era.
tim pool
You just did a flip.
serge du preez
I played Tomb Raider.
tim pool
All right, let's go to callers.
Let's go to callers.
Hey, Crown Doors, what's going on?
phil labonte
What's up, Crown Doors?
tate brown
What up?
unidentified
Hey, good evening, everybody.
How's it going?
tate brown
Good evening.
phil labonte
Well, how are you?
unidentified
So, not too bad.
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