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tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It is the end of the Howard Stern show after decades.
		At least that's what the reports are claiming.
		It's not guaranteed that his show actually ends.
		But according to The Sun, an inside source says that Sirius is not going to renew his contract and they're expected to make an offer that he must refuse.
		Just backwards, but I guess the idea is, ain't nobody wants to pay this guy a hundred million dollars.
		And they're saying politics seems to have played a role.
		Guys, whether you're Colbert, Howard Stern, you cut your audience in half.
		What are you doing?
		Now, I guess it's the nature of the game.
		I mean, obviously we here at Tim Cast are part of it, partisan as well.
		It's different when you were never the king of the castle though, and you just are where you are.
		But this is it's iconic.
		If Howard Stern is not re-upt and this is the end, then that's the end of an era for whatever for for for better or for worse.
		We'll talk about that.
		Plus, my friends, the WNBA, more money is being bet on the color of the being thrown in the courts.
		If you know what I mean, then the actual games themselves.
		And we've actually pulled up some of the Polymarket.
		And oh boy, it seems like people are choosing to win this on their own.
		If you know what I mean, we will break that down.
		We have some updates on the Texas situation.
		with the Democrats who have fled and an evacuation from Antarctica.
		Much crazy stories.
		Arson at a ice facility.
		Hey man, there's so much crazy stuff.
		It just, it never ends, huh?
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	Joining us tonight to talk about this and much more is Scott Greer.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for having me on, Tim.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Who are you?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What do you do?
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		I am a writer and podcaster and a, well, they used to say a Twitter influencer, but it's now an X influencer.
		And that, and I have a new book coming out next year, but I can't reveal the details yet.
		So it's highly confidential.
		But my subsack is highly respected, and that's my primary thing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is it called highly respected or are you telling us that it is?
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		No.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		My sub stack is called Highly Respected.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I thought you're just bragging.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm both.
		I'm both.
		I'm both highly respected and that's the name of, hence the name of my sub stack.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right on.
		Thanks for hanging out.
		Producer Tate's here.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Producer Tate is here.
		Me and Tim, we actually bonded earlier.
		He, he fed me some very, very hot wings and I was down for the counter.
		It was a little rugged and unbearable.
		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
		So it was, uh, it was grim.
		I was, I was down.
		It was.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		His face was swollen.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I was near death actually.
		It was kind of like a spiritual experience.
		I think that's kind of like the working class ayahuasca trip where it's like take some hot wings, a little Tylenol and then you like start seeing things.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If he gets, if he gets, if he gets in the middle of the show, you'll know why.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The back, the back, the back half of that experience hasn''t happened yet.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we're getting there.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Brett's hanging out.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Guys, yes, Brett, normally pop culture crisis Monday through Friday, but we actually did an article yesterday, we did a topic yesterday about people talking about meeting their spouses on Substack.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Have you ever seen that happen?
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		No.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		Definitely not on my Substack, it's a heavily male demographic, I'll say.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		We got to find a more gender neutral Substack to talk about.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		That's true, I do.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		I don't know where the female demographic is on Substack, but maybe they're out there somewhere.
unidentified		Okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Someone in chat said, Wait, Tim fed them to?
		I did.
		I said, Open up, here comes the plane.
unidentified		Yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		So if you're looking to meet a significant other, that's what the Tim Cast Discord is for.
		It's happened.
		I think it's legitimately happened.
		So sign up.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, this is not a joke.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Sign up for the Discord.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		it's like the best selling point for young men who are, it's like, we need to get members.
		How do we do it?
		Just point out that we've had like three couples meet and get married on the Discord and then young men come flocking.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Build a family.
		Hello, everybody.
		My name is Philip Abonte.
		I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains.
		I'm an anticommunist and counter revolutionary.
		Let's get into it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Here's the big story.
		It's been trending all day, my friends.
		Bye bye, Bowie.
		The Howard Stern Show to be canceled after nearly twenty years on Sirius XN as $100 million.
		dollar contract is up later this year.
		Now that's the crazy thing.
		It's not.
		It's not confirmed.
		They're saying that his contract is up and according to an insider, they're going to offer him a deal.
		He has no choice but to refuse.
		So I guess the argument is they're going to offer him such little money that he's going to be like, No, I can't take that and then retire dude seventy one.
		I just want to take the opportunity to say this.
		I know the Howard Stern fans are going to get mad and there are many, but I'm irrespective.
		Okay, of Howard Stern to all the boomers in their seventy and eighty years retire.
		Just go, just leave Congress.
		Okay.
		This is what I can't stand.
		Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, these people are seven thousand years old and they will not leave.
		The younger generation will never step up unless they are pushed out of that tree, okay?
		And so long as Howard Stern and all these old people refuse to just take their retirement, dude, you got one hundred million dollars plus, you are rich as rich can be, we don't need you here anymore, okay?
		You can go plus you're a shell of your former self.
		Now what's really interesting is that they say in the article that it seems like politics absolutely plays a role in this.
		I would assume much like Stephen Colbert, I don't know, they're just talking about his getting marriage to the bottom.
		They say that at some point in the article, here you go.
		After you saw what happened to Colbert, it's like they just can't afford to keep him going.
		Another source said Stern's political leanings are also not working in his favor.
		If Sirius isn't going to give Stern a good offer, I don't think it would have anything to do with his ratings.
		It's more likely everything to do with the political climate.
		That's amazing.
		Dude decided to go full democrat, full woke, full, you know, oh no, I can't defend you because according to reports, he didn't want to offend his A list or buddies.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it doesn't seem like he needed to do that either.
		What's interesting is like, it would have been weird.
		I think we were talking about before the show.
		Like if he was still doing the shock jock thing, like into his sixties and he's like, he's p like, he's pulling out his AARP card while doing the same type of crap he was doing when he was in his thirties.
		That wouldn't work either, but that's not the same thing as kind of planting your flag politically and turning it into something that it doesn't need to be.
		Like, you can do apolitical stuff that still leans into the audience that's there for like drive time radio, but he also has like well over a hundred employees and he's like of that contract.
		I think, okay, I saw estimates anywhere from 77 to 200, 25 to 35 on the main production team and a lot more for post production and after.
		So with that many writers, that many producers, like, that's the same thing with Colbert, right right?
		Like they have these huge contracts, but he's paying those employees out of those contracts.
		Like every time you see Stephen Colbert do a bit where he holds up like some article or something, you're like some dude had to paste that out there, and that dude probably makes 150,000 a year to do like one thing.
		So it's just that the art form itself is different and the way it's done now, it's modernized and it's been streamlined.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I do wonder if you guys think that the situation with Howard Stern is because people have gone to different formats for their entertainment, you know, podcasts as opposed to listening to XM Radio or any kind of radio now, or if you think that it's something to do with the fact that he's become so soft and predictable in his old age.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		I think it's probably all the factors.
		I mean, you have to think about Howard Stern, how he became big and all those shock jocks and talk radio hosts.
		I mean, because it was he came up at the same time as Rush Limbaugh and Rush Limbaugh when he first came out was considered a shock jock himself much more so and was saying more offensive things that he would say thirty years later.
		But all these guys came out and they were speaking for the man on the street and saying the things that he wished he could say with Howard Stern, whether it was more inappropriate humor or with Rush Limimbaugh saying politically incorrect things, they're all speaking for that man on the street who's coming back from a hard work or a hard day at the construction site or something.
		These were not meant to be liberal people who wanted to hear the same rants they heard from MSNBC.
		And now what he is, he's just old and sounds like a angry MSNBC viewer and no one wants to listen to that on their way back home.
		And if the liberals who are there, they're listening to podcasts.
		They're not listening to Howard Stern.
		And they think he's a male chauvinist and a pig.
		They don't care about his new turn.
		They want someone else.
		So there's not really that much of an audience for him anymore.
unidentified		Yeah.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		And the only people that have Sirius XM just bought cars and they have the three month free subscription.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		And Phil.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Phil has series.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I do.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Fox News is that why.
unidentified		So.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		But it's worth the low price.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		So that way you can listen to like Bret Bear.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I think they said that at his highest, his audience was twenty million listeners or twenty million viewers.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		And now it's down to like 125,000.
unidentified		It was big.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		But remember at the time, you're still dealing with a situation where he was, he kind of had a captive audience, right?
		There weren't so many options.
		You didn't have cell phones or computers in your pocket where you could stream whatever you wanted at any given time.
		It was okay, it's Howard Stern or whoever is competing with Howard Stern in that time slot in the car.
		That was it.
		That was you only had the radio.
		So twenty million people, sure, it was huge, absolutely.
		But it was because of, or at least partly because of the fact that the options were so limited.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		It's what it was with TV.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Like the worst TV show in 1998 got ratings that would absolutely obliterate anything that's coming out right now.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, dude.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Like they would get canceled.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like it was getting twenty million.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Like shows in the nineties would get canceled on the numbers of the greatest television show of the year in 2025.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, there was a bunch of shows that I liked on Fox that it was like the show wasn't doing well enough.
		It was only getting six or seven million.
		And today it's like two hundred thousand.
		200,000.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		that about the X-Files.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		He was like only 10 million viewers per episode like in the...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But it was because you were comparing to everybody else.
		Now it's wild to think that there will never be another Howard Stern.
		There will never be not even like Bill Maher, even where Tucker Carlson was, they're not getting that back.
		And it's funny because Fox News has this big viewership, but with all due respect to the Fox crew, their viewers are 70.
		To be fair, slightly younger than MSNBC and CNN.
		They're like 68.
		But still, Howard Stern, like, okay, let's try this.
		What was the average age of a Howard Stern listener in like the 90s.
		When was when was when was his peak?
		It was like the 90s, right?
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		Like in their thirties.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		So they're in their mid to late sixties now.
		Yeah.
		They're not buying stuff.
		They already they they they likely own several homes.
		Not all of them, but many of them.
		That's the boomers.
		They do.
		A lot of corporate equities.
		What is he selling to them?
		What's he selling?
		What product is he selling to them?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		No idea.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So the advertisers are coming to Howard Stern or Sirius.
		I gotta be honest.
		I don't know anybody who has Sirius.
		Do you?
unidentified		Phil.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Me.
unidentified		Do you have Sirius?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I do.
		I have it in my.
		Well, you're old though.
		Yeah, I am old.
		I got it.
		I got it.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		Old people do love Sirius.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I got it for Fox News.
		That's literally the only thing I listen to in the car is the news.
		So.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But Fox News?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Fox News.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Just want to hear that sweet Jesse Waters.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It's well, I like rep air.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The, the, you know, the Jesse Waters, but okay.
unidentified		Yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Jesse Waters.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm just trying to butter up Jesse because I'm going to his show soon.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Oh, are you there?
		There you go.
		Jesse, you're great.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		We love Sears has like thirty soft rock channels.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		That's ridiculous.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		They literally have every boomer music genre.
		Do not have like a yacht rock.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I will not.
		That's right.
		Yacht rock is great.
		I will not let anyone dog out yacht rock.
		It is wonderful.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		We're not criticizing it.
		We're just saying that the primary audience for it is.
		It's not in their twenty and thirty.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Definitely not.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		The bumper for the Yacht Rock channel.
unidentified		It's your pillows are monogrammed, aren't they?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Old, awesome.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		So, but that's what Howard Stern now has to compete with.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		He's got to compete with thirty channels dedicated to all the boomers' favorite music genres, and does MSNBC even have a channel on Sirius?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I believe they do, yeah.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		But it's probably doesn't get nearly the amount of traffic that Fox News gets.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I believe you're correct.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		You have to go watch the Howard Stern interview with Biden from like last year.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Biden looks dead.
		He looks like he's been stuffed and he's just being held up there by some gu type of like wires.
		He doesn't even look alive and Howard Stern is just glazing him.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I like to imagine that there's some kind of shadow monster that we can't, is imperceptible and it's holding Biden up and it's got this gigantic grin and it's like, you know, like maybe like Ryuk from Death Note or something.
		That's a good way to explain it.
		I was going to say, the thing about Howard Stern, along with all of all of these other shows that target seventy-year-olds, it's the only Democrat that hates Trump.
		So if Howard Stern does get canceled, what's going to that do to the pro and anti Trump narrative?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		All those people who are like protesting in Charlestown are just going to be crushed.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Bro, they're all like seventy.
		Yeah, no, but there's sometimes more, but they're like all old.
		They're all so crazy.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		But I think of Howard Stern as like representative of Gen X for some reason.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Like, not necessarily.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		He's a boomer.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he's a Gen X. I mean, he's a boomer, but his audience, I think, would have been.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Like, I think, like, when did Private Parts come out?
		Like, 1999 or something like that.
		I think I think of him as making content for Gen X, not boomers.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		But he lost his Gen Xers because all those people are like pro Trump and don't want a liberal lecturing them from this.
		They want funny jokes.
		They want lighthearted humor.
		They don't want to hear a screed from what he just watched on MSNBC.
		What it is, what it is now.
		It's not funny.
		It's the same with Colbert.
		Colbert wasn't funny at all.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		That's what boomers love to have comedy done by people who did blackface back then.
		Howard Stern and who's the other?
		Was it Jimmy Kimble?
		Jimmy Kimble.
		Yeah, they love dudes who did blackface back then.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and Sarah Silverman wore the Nazi outfit with the swazie, like actually not like a fake one or whatever, it was legit the swazie.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		It's like where did you get that?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it used to be where people didn't panic about that kind of thing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Honestly, I bet you could get it in any Hollywood costume shop.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I told the story when I went to Austin, we went to an antique store, it's like a famous antique store.
		And the dude working behind the counter had a keychain with a swastika on it.
		They had a whole section of swastikas.
		And I was just kind of like looking at everything, like, what is going on in this place?
		And I went to the guy and I asked him, and he said, he got up, he got almost offended.
		I was like, how come you got swastikas everywhere?
		And he got kind of wrath and he was like, this was not the Nazis, okay?
		This was a symbol used in America and around the world.
		And he was like, before the Nazis took it.
		And I was like, whoa, whoa, okay, dude.
		Like, I was like, okay, man.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		If you want to find Nazi memorabilia, go to gun shows.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		No kidding around.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		Have you seen the It's just a free speech symbol there.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		No, they're just like, man, I like World War two.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Have you seen the meme of Docks from Dexter?
		It's like the I can't prove it meme where he's making the face at Dexter like this.
		And the one it says like when my mailman sees that I order so much stuff from World War two memorabilia dot com.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the swastika like screwed me over in college because my roommates were Hindu.
		So they had like, oh man.
		Yeah, my RA walks in.
		He's like, dude, what the fuck?
		I was like, they're Hindu.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		It's not religious.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		And it's like halfway in the room.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		So it's like kind of on your side of the deck.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		I'm like, I could explain.
unidentified		No.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		And now you'd just be like, what?
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		What?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right, everybody.
		Here we go.
		We've got huge news from the post millennial.
		More money is being bet on lady toys at the WNBA than on the games themselves.
		I kid you not.
		So we checked this.
		Polymarkets got a tweet up.
		They said breaking WNBA getting betting volume on adult lady toys surpasses betting volume for who will win the game.
		And so I immediately pulled this up when you Google search it and it says another lady toy thrown at WNBA game by August 10.
		But the funny thing is it is August 6 and I couldn't help but notice it has it has greater than 99 percent chance, which means it literally happened.
		And yes, it literally happened.
		People are now, they put a ban on bags because everybody is bringing these lady toys and just chucking them on the court.
		Who was it like Sophie Cunningham was like, Stop throwing dildos at us because you're going to get us hurt.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		And then she tweeted, yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, she tweeted, that didn't work out.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		She got hit with one.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Did she really?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Maybe she like, that's what she was targeted.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, she's a poor thing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		For real, I got to pull that up.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, it was right at her feet.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I couldn't tell if she was thinking a good sport about it or something.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		I'm waiting for security to jump on it like a grenade.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So the funny thing is.
		I saw that it biked at 5 August at 10:45 it jumped to 99.
		And I'm like, that means it happened that this and it says the market will resolve.
		Yes.
		If a dildo is thrown out of the court during a WNBA game between August 4 and August 10.
		And it says outcome proposed.
		Yes.
		No dispute final outcome.
		Yes.
		Yo, they got paid.
		Guess what?
		Now you can bet on the color.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh no, I'm sorry.
		This is the date.
		This is the date.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Have they all been green so far?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, no, I think the blue one.
		I don't know.
		But here's another one.
		It's you can make bets on August 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12.
		Andy was telling me, my homie here, that you can bet on the color.
		But the crazy thing is.
		if you go on polymarket, okay, I'm do not do this.
		Do not people listening at home, but if you want on polymarket right now, okay, on, so as of the seventh, there's a 47% yes.
		It will happen.
		Okay, so if you, if you buy yes, okay, if I'm just, I'll be very careful here.
		If a person buys yes for the seventh and then goes to a game.
		And then chooses of their own volition to hook a dildo on the court, they will have won that bet, guaranteeing they will double their money.
		Do not do this.
		But that's what's so dumb about this is being able to make a bet on something.
		You can control the outcome of, you know, just as a side, I remember when we were hanging out at the theater and I think the Super Bowl this year or last year and you can bet on the color of the Gatorade as they do every year.
		And I'm like, that means that there are people who chose the color or saw the color can't just go make bets and get free money.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then what?
		This is silly.
		This is silly.
		But I just want to say the WNBA is a clown show.
		It is what, you know, look, Foxy boxing has its place.
		Okay.
		You know what you get when you go see Foxy boxing lingerie football and lingerie football.
		has its place.
		You know what you get.
		The problem with this is with the WNBA, you don't even get foxy boxing.
		Like, look, I buy a ticket because I want to see Caitlin Clark get battered and beaten, right?
		That's what people are paying tickets for.
		I'm not even joking.
		I'm being a little facetious, but people literally are watching these compilation videos on YouTube of Caitlin Clark getting beaten.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The problem is, even if that's what you wanted, next thing you know, someone throws a dildo on the court and it's just next they're going to bring on elephant jongling or some nonsense.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		All the stories I've heard about the WNBA in the last two weeks have nothing to do with the actual sport.
		It was this.
		This, it was the other stories about this, it was the story about the lady's wig getting snatched.
		And it was Angel Reese saying, like, you make $1,400 in a week, I make $1,400 in seven days.
		I still have no idea if that was real or not.
		When I read a quote, I just assume it's fake.
		I have no idea if that was real or not.
		But, you know, they've kind of found their own market here.
		You know, none of these people have to actually play good basketball.
		No.
		There was something going on this week where Michelle Obama called sports called ESPN reality TV for men.
		But this is way funnier than anything that ESPN can do.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I do love that Family Guy joke where they did a cutaway gag to a WNBA game and there's like, so and so misses another three pointer but got close.
		That's why she commands $60,000 a year.
		And then they were like, but Jim, is that amount of money worth it to be so unattractive?
		Well, that's for the fan to decide.
		And there's an ostrich sitting in the stands.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		It's like the Mavericks mascot makes like twice what they make in a year.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Dude, I I'm offended at the existence of the WNBA.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I can't even imagine.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it was the other one.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		It was the Pay Us What You Owe Us shirts.ts, which is technically zero, or you actually owe them.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they give us money back.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, like I get paid.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I mean, the fact that they say the whole, you know, pay us what you owe us, it's you'd think that someone would have said, This is a terrible idea.
		Like, you're subsidized by the NBA.
		So literally, you owe the WNBA money for allowing you to play.
		The fact that they get paid is, it's ridiculous.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		It should be pay us what you owe Caitlin Clark, because Caitlin Clark is the one that actually brings in money.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's almost Yeah, but look, like, I don't think it's her capabilities that is generating the press.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's her getting beaten.
unidentified		Yeah.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I don't know if I necessarily believe it.
		I think that may be true for the online discourse, but she's filling the actual stadiums and they're not showing up there.
		There's no bum fights for the WNBA.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		In college, she became the big star.
		Why she just Americans decided to like her.
		She was like the girl next door.
		It's not the nappy headed hose that Don Imus famously got in trouble.
		A rival of Howard Stern.
		It's a normal girl next door.
		Everyone can root for her.
		And then she gets in the WNBA and the women Don Imus described then took revenge and are now beating the crap out of her every day.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		She got the big balls treatment.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		So she gets the big balls treatment every day on the court.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		You know, the reasonably attractive WNBA stars are getting, you you know, deals with Arby's and stuff like that, you know.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, like Nancy Cunningham, we were just talking about.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		I think it was her that was like after a game or something, they posted a picture of her in a bathing suit and it was like, She had a great game today.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		And everyone's like, Could you imagine if the Warriors posted a picture of Draymond in a speedo?
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		They should consider that.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		I don't know, I think Draymond would be up for that, but maybe.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		We did get kind of screwed out of the fact that this didn't happen when Howard Stern was in his prime.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		He could be contributing gold material back in the nineties if this was going on.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There's a clip that went viral from his show considering the talk about canceling him where he was talking to, I think, was it Anna Nicole?
		I can't remember.
		But he he tells her that he thinks she weighs 300 pounds and she's like, Howard.
		And then he says something like, if you get on the scale, I'll show you my if you know what I mean.
		He actually goes there.
		I'm trying to keep it a little family friendly.
		But I'm just thinking to myself, this guy was getting 20 million in the ratings.
		Like they were putting on the radio and he legit said to a woman, I think you weigh 300 pounds, get on the scale and I'll show you my ding dong.
		And that was that was the nineties.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		He was like me.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What happened to millennials?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like just, just please, did someone like dangle them over a vat of.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my parents.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But we had this.
		We had Howard Star when we were kids.
		Like, what?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		It's South Park too.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We had South Park Simpsons family guy., all these things were horribly offensive.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then millennials grew up to be like, Don't say naughty word.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, I think that it probably has something to do with the fact that once everyone had the mobile phone in their pocket and you could do internet pylons, it became, Oh, you know, don't say that.
		Don't say these, these edgy things because you'll have a boatload of people.
		And even a boatload of people could be thirty people, but it feels like a lot of people when they're, when it's, you know, the same thirty people that are just, you know, consistently filling your timeline with you're a bad person, you're a bad person.
		So I think that it's probably a lot has to do with the internet, you know.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Corporations still don't understand how that works either.
		Like thirty people say bad stuff.
		about your show or your movie or your company and they freak out and then not realizing that there's a hundred thousand more that are not saying anything.
		So that math doesn't always work for people.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		You couldn't be allowed on the air saying that stuff.
		I mean, WNBA doesn't even allow their fans to buo or jeer because we're talking about the girl whose wig was pulled off her weave and someone was making fun of her and they sent security out to escort a fan.
		And it's like, can you imagine going to a sporting event where you can't Yeah, I don't know if they're really fans.
		They just kind of hope that some type of object falls on the court and they can and they can laugh about it.
		But I had to escort him out.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I have a Simpsons reference for everything.
		It's the episode where they're taunting Daryl Strawberry.
		You guys remember this one?
		And they're like Strawberry and then Marge is like that's kind of mean and they're like no mom, the professional athletes they can take it and then show Strawberry crying.
		But see the thing is the joke was that they actually can take it.
		So when the Simpsons were making fun of this, they were like, wouldn't it be funny if they actually could not?
		Well, now we have the WNBA, so I want to give it up to the Simpsons who accurately predicted once again some kind of phenomenon.
		They're actually kicking people out for making fun of a woman whose wig got pulled off.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		This happened in baseball this year when a player got like somebody insulted his mom who died like five years earlier and the player was banned for life or the fan was banned for life.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's a little different, I guess.
unidentified		Yeah.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I mean, depends on the line, I suppose.
		That depends.
		I mean, there's a line there, but it's a lot of people are going to say, like, look, you're making millions of dollars a year.
		Your job is to be literally a stone.
		You should not be, it should not affect your play.
		It should not stop gameplay.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		One of the famous examples was the Eagles when Michael Irvin got a career ending injury and the Eagles fans celebrated it.
unidentified		Yeah.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		And this is like 25 years ago and they went nuts.
		I mean, that's the Eagles fans, but I they didn't ban all those fans for life, obviously.
		Those guys have been probably going to games for life ever since.
		Well, that happened.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		sense.
		That happened like it was the Raptors and Warriors and it was the NBA finals and Kevin Durant like popped his Achilles.
		It was obvious he was done and like some of the fans were like, yeah, we're gonna actually have a chance of winning.
		And like Drake had to like do this performative like, no.
		And it was like the funniest thing ever.
		Because it's like everyone was like, no, we have a chance now.
		Kevin Durant's hurt.
		This is great.
		But everyone had to pretend like it was this great tragedy.
		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Here we got another.
		Wait, I mean, shouldn't this have already been passed?
		So WNBA's got another one.
		Okay.
		So it's as of today.
		Okay.
		So Polymarket, because someone did throw a dildo already before the tenth, they resolved that and they launched a new one will another be thrown by Friday 70 percent says yes yes so like here's what's going to happen so dude's going to go in here he's going to go like I guarantee there's a guy going to a loan shark right now being like in a million dollars you give me a million dollars today I pay you back tomorrow here's my plan and then you know I actually I don't think you I think you can do 100k let's uh what's the max bet it doesn't even come up let's just say he's going to do 124
		000 uh you'll win 40 000 dollars it goes to a loan shark and he's like I need 124 000 dollars and a dildo and I will make you your money back plus 10k and they're like this is so crazy what's your plan?
		He's going to bet.
		He's going to go to a WNBA game.
		He's going to walk in, go hook.
		He's going to walk out and he's going to collect.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Well, it's not, this isn't odds of it happening.
		It's the 30% chance that security actually takes it.
unidentified		Yeah.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Because everyone's like, I bet everyone in the same place.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		They're arresting people too.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		So you have to also save some of that money for bail.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Yeah.
		Like, this is risky.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Wait, they're arresting people with dildos.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		They're the first guy who threw it, they arrested him.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, well, I mean, for throwing it.
		Yeah.
		It's a crime.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		But sure.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But I'm just pointing out if they don't allow you to have your bags in the premises anymore.
		There's some creative ways people can smuggle those.
		There was a.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Have you ever seen that famous clip of Kelsey Plum throwing the shirt to the top level of the stadium?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Somebody like motion captured a dildo on it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I was at I think it might have been the DNC or it might have been the RNC.
		I think I was at the RNC in Florida.
		And this is like probably 2015 or something, like some Republican convention.
		And I was invited by a friend who was working on one of the campaigns.
		And I had my backpack with me, my laptop and my computer.
		And I was stopped by cops as I was walking.
		I was walking around the arena, like taking pictures and stuff, posting on X. And the cops told me that they had to se search my bag because someone had smuggled in a double sided, if you know what I mean.
		And I started laughing and I was like, bro, you can take my bag.
		I'm a journalist, I was invited here, I'm friends with, you know, someone working on the campaign.
		And they were like, well, to be honest, like, that's what a person with a double sided in their bag would say.
		And I was like, bro, here you go.
		And they looked at it and they were like, okay, all right.
		And then they started laughing and I started laughing and I was like, bro, are you legit searching everyone's bag to try and find a double sided dildo?
		And they were like, we have to do it, dude.
		Like someone post it online or something and now they're all freaking out.
		And they were like, someone's gonna try and throw it at the stage.
		And then I was like, well, I hope you find it, I guess or not, I don't know.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Like the Bush shoe incident times a thousand.
unidentified		Oh man, dude, what's going on?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		The Bush shoe incident would definitely not be as funny as a big old wang floppeter.
unidentified		Big old wang lying.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's wild, man.
		Okay, let's jump to the real news, my friends.
		I know we're having fun here.
		We got this from the Texas Tribune.
		Paxton launches investigation into Beto O'Rourke's political group for funding Democrats who left the state.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The Attorney General accuses the organization of running a financial influence scheme that convinced six Democrats to leave the state.
		I say bribery, scams.
		In a press release, Paxton said to the Texas Tribune reporting on Tuesday that O'Rourke's group is funding the travel and fines for the more than fifty Democrats who left Texas this weekend to shut down the legislature.
		Bribery, do it now, lock them up.
		If the point of the fine is to deter illicit activities and Beto O'Rourke says we'll cover those costs so you have no repercussions, then bribery because they're taking money in exchange for official duties, lock them up.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Look man, I am for whatever will throw sand in the gears of what the Democrats are trying.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		So yeah, more power to them.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What say you, Scott, lock them up?
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		Oh, absolutely.
		He committed a crime.
		You have to arrest them.
		Otherwise, they're all going to do that and try to disrupt the will of the people.
		I mean, they, the majority of the people elected the legislators, they passed the redistricting and the Democrats are actually trying to thwart democracy.
		This is the real threat to democracy.
		They are subverting the will of the people and they deserve jail time for that.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Also, like, yeah, it's like also how does Beidou still have a war chest?
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Like in 2025?
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		We're never going to get rid of him.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		He's going to be like a 40 year we're still going to hear about Beidou.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Like eating dirt and like bribing people.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Like, well, yes, we'll take your AR 15s.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I'm like 45.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I love Illinois, Jim.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		We're going to take your AR 15.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Illinois is the most comical state in terms of gerrymandering because they've gerrymandering to the greatest extent possible.
		They couldn't gerrymandering any more.
		And Pritzker, you know, I have to give a shout out to Colbert.
		I'll say it again because Colbert actually pulled the map up and called him out on the hypocrisy of this.
		But Pritzker was like, if they want to gerrymandering then we'll do the same, but you can't.
		Illinois could not be more gerrymandering.
		Take a look at District 13.
		They basically created this big long strip to combine East Saint Louis with Urbana.
		Otherwise there wouldn't be a Democratic district there.
		So all, so basically you cut off East Saint Louis, you cut off Urbana.
		This whole section is all conservative voters who are disenfranchised because they wanted to because those metros are not big enough to sustain a district on their own.
		So this is Illinois' game.
		Then I can't remember who said it.
		They said that's not a district, that's a road trip agreed.
		And then you can see they did the same thing with Bloomington, Davenport and Rockford.
		Are you kidding me?
		Illinois is whack, it is nuts.
		So these, these Democrats want to flee.
		Everybody knows how bad it is.
		Okay, I say lock them up, lock them up.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		You know, to your point, there's, there's, I made this point last night.
		There's not a whole lot that the Democrats can do to actually produce more Democrat seats.
		They've really got a state like Massachusetts, which has no Republicans.
		Forty percent of Massachusetts voted for Donald Trump.
		Something like around forty percent voted for Donald Trump last election.
		There's not one Republican to represent forty percent of the population of the state.
		And it's not like Massachusetts isn't a big state, but it's not a low populous state because Boston got a lot of people.
		So the idea that the Democrats are actually worried about democracy and worried about representation, it's a farce.
		The idea and the way that they portray this whole debacle about Texas, it's as if there isn't a Republican.
		It's as if there is no gerrymandering going on or it's some new phenomenon.
		And again, they have mastered gerrymandering to the point that you really can't do more as a Democrat and squeeze more Democrat seats out of the country.
		Like they've really maximized the gerrymandering of all the states.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		So how did they do it in Massachusetts?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Pardon me?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		How is it done in Massachusetts?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		What do you mean?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Like the, like how is the gerrymandering done so that there are no Republicans in the country?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, no, you're all wrong.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Look, the gerrymandering Princeton Project gives Massachusetts an A. Yeah, an A rating.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It's a hundred percent.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And it's a forty percent Republican state with not a singlele Republican district.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Not just that.
		If you look at a map of the whole, like all the states combined, is not even Massachusetts doesn't even border a Republican district.
		Like it's surrounded on all sides because Connecticut doesn't have any.
		Rhode Island doesn't have any.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, New York.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, to be fair, 36 percent Trump supporting state and we can take a look at where these pockets are, but it doesn't matter.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Don't matter.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because the way you drop the map guarantees there will never be a Republican district in Massachusetts.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		Well, Maryland's another horrible state.
		I want to see their rating for Maryland because Maryland, it should be a couple of seats that Republicans should compete in.
		And they ensured it's just one Republican seat.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, dude, everyone.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		And yeah, it's like that district should be Republican on the west, but they've ensured that it's not, that it's never going to be.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, what they did was by combining, I forgot how I did it, but I was talking to some locals and it's they by putting Frederick in Western Maryland, it basically ensures because that's a population of like 500,000 in their in their metro.
		They carved out a portion on the east so that they could add the rest to the western Maryland to Western Maryland and convert what is largely Trump country just north of West Virginia into a Democrat district.
		And everybody's pissed.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		And then you get that's democratic, that's democracy.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		When Republicans do that, That's a threat and we have to use all available means to stop it.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'm really worried about democracy guys.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		We need to make sure all these Republicans don't have seats.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		But there's a lot of uninformed people who really believe that only Republicans gerrymandering because they listen to late night talk shows like, well, Cole Barrett's he's still on air.
		They listen to the rant of CNN and MSNBC and they never point out that, you know, Illinois, Maryland, various other states and what California is going to do.
		Whenever they hear gerrymandering, they think it's southern segregationists come back from the 1950s and they're carving up.
		They're like, we're not going to give Democrats this area.
		And every state does it.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Wait till the America Party gets their seats.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I know.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to hold my breath for that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I love this.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, they're going to have to gerrymander every, like all the other districts.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Gerrymandering.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		Keep out the America Party.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Look how ridiculous Dallas is.
		This is, this is, this is before the redistricting.
		Like, this is just insanity.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Well, they do in Texas.
		They, the reason they make the blue ones is so they can sync as many Democrat voters into one seat.
		Like, if you go look at San Antonio, there's one that stretches from the south side of San Antonio all the way to the north side of Austin.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		It's purely just to sync all the Democrats.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		See that?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		So you can sync every Democrat into one district.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Movie fans will know that.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, 71% Democratic vote.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		How's that a district?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Like, what's the rationale?
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		People's representatives voted for it.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think people need to understand this too, though.
		There is no alternative, none.
		What's the argument?
		Every district must be 50/50.
		Well, that's impossible.
		So then it's like, well, this one, this district is very heavy Democrat and what are we supposed to do?
		So my attitude is, the system doesn't work in of itself, that the way it was set up for districting for the federal government makes literally no sense.
		And I don't know that the founding fathers understood that gerrymandering will happen.
		It's a guarantee.
		It has to happen.
		Again, what are we going to do?
		Put blocks.
		Okay, a district must be 500 by 500 feet or miles or something, or just maybe not miles or yeah, that's it.
		And however many people are in are in it, then you can have a nice day.
		Otherwise, what are you going to do?
		You're going to draw districts and then you're going to have to choose what percentage will this district be, Democrat, Republican, or political affiliation.
		I suppose the founding fathers, they thought there aren't two political parties.
		Now there are.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		And also, if they're not even going with the 50-50 block or some type of mathematical formula, it's going to be left to the federalederal government and liberal bureaucrats to decide.
		And that's taking the power away from the states and the state representatives and senators that the people elected to draw the maps.
		And instead of putting it in the hands of Washington DC bureaucrats to determine.
		And they're not going to go after Illinois, they're not going to go after New Jersey, they're not going to go after Rhode Island or any other state, they're only going to go after Texas, Tennessee, Kentucky, they're only going to go after red states.
		And then they're going to be like, this is bad and we're going to draw it to be more democratic friendly.
		So whenever they complain about gerrymandering, it's to benefit the Democrats and they'll never go after Republicans for this.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All that matters is who wins at the state level.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then they decide what your representation is going to be.
		Goodbye.
		So the Republicans won in Texas, they have the right to do this.
		I love listening to Pritzker where he's like they're trying to steal seats from you.
		And I'm like, well, hold on.
		They were elected.
		They have the authority under their government to do exactly what they're.
		Is that stealing?
		But you fleeing the state to break quorum, which quorum was not, this rule was not put in place so that you could just shut things down.
		That would be violating the rules for which you are facing arrest and fines.
		Sounds like you're stealing.
		Do we do the people have, let me ask you this.
		authority to take an object and then you take that object is that stealing no if you are threatened with arrest and fines for the actions you have taken is that more likely to be stealing i mean yeah uh-huh so usually if the democrats are facing the charges and the criminal charges for bribery and all that i'm going to go out to and assume the one trying to steal power here is the democrats for which they're breaking the law yeah The question,
		I guess, is are Republicans going to be whining little babies or are they actually going to do their jobs?
		I'm going to do my job.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to do my job.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		I mean, that's what's going to happen.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		I think they're going to to be whining little babies?
unidentified		Yes.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		I think Trump, I think Trump has changed the math because I think people realize like the point of politics is not principles, the point is like winning and Trump wins.
		And it's like you have Republicans have to be confident holding power.
		And that's been the biggest problem of the last fifty years is Republicans get power and then they're terrified that they have it.
		Trump comes in and he's comfortable holding power and we need to be confident in ourselves and it's a beautiful thing.
		And I love seeing that Texas is like going hard to paint.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		And the easiest way to please the base right now is to promise to arrest Democrats.
		I mean, look what Trump's doing with the DOJ.
		They're like, we've got people angry, promise to arrest Obama.
		They're trying to, they're trying to press charges against Adam Schiff and a lot of other people.
		They would like nothing more.
		than to arrest the entire Texas Democrats who fled to Illinois.
		So they're going to, it's not just Ken and Ken Paxton's running for the Senate.
		He wants to show that he's a stronger conservative than Cornyn.
		And what better way to do that than to work with Trump's DOJ to arrest Democrats, and that's going to be a big hit within the primary.
		Now with the general electorate, I don't think they really care that much.
		I mean, what the Democrats did to Trump and people who supported him over the last four years, you know, they already set the precedent.
		And we're now just following the precedent that they set.
		And they're actually committing crimes here and going against the will of the people and trying to steal democracy away from the people of Texas.
		And so they should use all available means.
		I think the Republicans would like nothing more than to arrest these people.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, I'm not so sure that you're right.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I want that to be the truth, but I don't know that they actually do have the gumption to do it.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I don't buy it.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		What if they were like Beydo, you're under arrest for riding a skateboard out on the primary?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I would support that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I would support that as a skateboarder.
unidentified		You should, like I said, you're under arrest for cringe locked up.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Like I said, I'm all for the Republicans exercising power because they have it.
		I'm all for doing whatever they can to throw sand in the gears of things that the Democrats want.
		I want to pull, you know, pull back all sorts of laws that Democrats have passed.
		I just don't know exactly how far Republicans are willing to go.
		I mean, even now, Cornyn is, is, is, he's balking at at at recess appointments and that Donald Trump is trying to get through.
		You know, he's, he's not going to have the Senate there to actually do this stuff.
		So I'm not so sure that they have the intestinal fortitude to do it.
		I would love to see it though.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		That's the problem with one or that's the problem that Paxton's trying to highlight with Cornyn is he won't dot do this, but they need to do this.
		Now, I don't know if the federal government will try to help Texas out there.
		I mean, they would try to like, what they want is to at least, at least, arrest one or two to set an example and to draw them back in.
		Maybe they can, I don't know, lure them to like a McDonald's or maybe there's some free meal or they give them free WNBA tickets.
		They all just show up and then they arrest them before they get into the game.
		I don't know.
		They'll find something, some way to transport them back.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		It's a good place to do it.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Luigi got arrested at a McDonald's.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		There you go.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, there you go.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		So I guess that's what they need to do do, offer free WNBA tickets to reward their service to democracy and they show and they get on a free bus and then that bus takes them back to Boston.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Look, anything that will allow the Democrats to think that they're going to get some attention, like get on TV or get a bunch of clicks or whatever, anything that you can come up with that will make them feel that way will attract them in, I'm sure.
		Because they're all just grandstanding.
		The whole point of this is grandstanding.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		That's like all those Democratic lawmakers who want to get arrested at the ICE facilities.
		They were begging.
		They're like, please arrest me, please.
		And they did.
		And now they're pressing charges against them that they probably didn't wish for.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's jump to the next story from NPR, ladies and gentlemen.
		After an ex Doge staffer's assault, Trump threatens to federalize DC.
		My friends, Big Balls has earned not just the name but the title after, if you guys don't know the story, that guy who goes by Big Balls who worked for Doge, I believe the story is that he saw a young woman being car jacked, intervened to save her and got mercilessly beaten.
		But as it was going on, cops pulled up, the attackers fled and he had saved this young lady, earning not just the name that he had bestowed upon himself, uh, confirming it, but also the title of having big balls.
		And after this, Trump responded, saying that maybe we need to federalize DC, and he should, he can, and I'm waiting.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I don't think he should stop at DC.
		I think he should do New York, LA, Chicago.
		I'm Serious because it's like, this is a total embarrassment that our city, our capital city, looks like this.
		I've been to Tokyo.
		Charlie Kirk was talking about it today.
		Tokyo, obviously there's some, you know, intangible differences between Yeah, like all the masturbation stores they have in Tokyo.
		Yeah, well, maybe that helps.
		Maybe, you know, a little gooning goes a long way.
		But, uh, a little gooning.
		But no, but like, for real, it's a total embarrassment.
		And Trump totally has a justification to go in and actually solve these cities.
		I mean, New York City is about to elect a, like, a radical Marxist, Marxist Muslim from Uganda, like, what are we doing here?
		Federalize it, whatever you need to do.
		Will it happen?
		I don't know, but he totally should.
		He shouldn't stop at DC.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I actually just, I want to stress that I find Japan to be disgusting.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Oh, they're definitely pure at the gulf.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They have vending machines with like women's, you know, Oh yeah, there's underwear and just other really nasty stuff.
		And dude, I I'm a big fan of Japan in general, you know?
		But going there, there's some really great things.
		Like I stayed at a hotel and for breakfast, we had like a regular Continental breakfast.
		And I was like, hey, look at these, yeah, eggs and sausage.
		But the bread basket?
		were these weird little buns.
		And opened them up, they were rice buns.
		It was amazing.
		And I went to a karaoke bar and it was shoulder to shoulder packed.
		And I sang with our tour, our fixer.
		We sang, what are we singing?
		That Aladdin song, Show You the World, what was it called?
		Whole New World?
		Whole New World, there you go.
		I did a duet with this old lady, Rest in Peace.
		She died of cancer.
		She was a fixer going to Fukushima.
		I had amazing time.
		But yo, I have to tell you, you go to the city and they've got these signs everywhere.
		And I'm like, I thought it was a fast food restaurant.
		I kept asking, like, what is this place we keep seeing?
		It was a masturbatory.
		And they're everywhere.
		And I'm like, this is a disgusting country.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Japan definitely doesn't have western sensibility.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That is, that goes without saying.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Go to Austin Texas.
		She's a masturbatorian.
		It's called underpasses.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you know, you're probably right.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, probably no WNBA games allowed.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		The gooning there is not regulated in Austin.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's off the books.
		But in all seriousness, you are correct that other capital cities don't look like ours.
		And that is, it is disgusting that this country is the greatest country in the country, a country on the planet.
		But DC is a crime-ridden scumhole.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		DC just sucks.
		It just does.
		I don't care what anyone says.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Bro, we've been going there for these these live shows.
		We're doing Culture War, maybe sold out.
		The Culture War this Friday.
		So I think we've got, we've got a couple dozen tickets left.
		So it's looking, you know, decent, but we, we do.
		We sell big chunks.
		We've been going there.
		You drive through DC.
		There are tents just on the sidewalk.
		Not under passes, not near construction sites, near buildings where people work and live.
		There's just like three tents.
		And I'm like, why do they not remove this?
		What's wrong with this city?
		No, no.
		And I'm a sense, why won't Trump?
		Why won't Trump just do it?
		I, I, I, I'm, I'm done.
		I'm so sick of this.
		Maybe Trump's like, you know what I'm going to do?
		I'm going to win and then just dangle it, but do nothing.
		to get him blue bald and the next guy's going to go ham.
		Is that his plan?
		Just get us all worked up being like maybe he'll enforce the law and then when he doesn't, we vote for the guy with the iron fist.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the one thing that's the positive side is the whole admin is radicalized after seeing this happen that it could be any one of them and they're all weighing on Trump heavily to consider this.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		And like the thing about Trump is he definitely listens to people that are around him a little too much sometimes.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		I mean, they definitely want to do it.
		I mean, the thing about DC is though it went 95 percent for his opponents and all these.
		They're the ones who are like the most opposed to it and it's like, we're trying to help you.
		I mean, you can walk around at night and not have to worry about shootings at nightclubs.
		Because I mean, DC has completely changed over the last ten years.
		I mean, it's become much more violent.
		The nightlife has died out.
		There's all these now homeless campments and they don't arrest people.
		The only people they arrest are the few who actually practice self defense.
		Because there was a story a few years ago, actually, I think it was like last year, where a guy confronted these carjackers, these kids who were, well, kids, youths.
		They're carjacking and, you know, they got into a scuffle.
		He pulls out a gun, you know, they attack him and he shoots him.
		And they first all was like, this must have been a white supremacist who did this.
		I'm like, probably not.
		It turned out to be a black city employee or government worker.
		And then they're all like, cooled well, we can't make this about racism, but we still can't have citizens, Even if they're black, white, Hispanic or whatever, shooting at criminals.
		And then they they convicted them on very serious charges.
		So the only people that they're able to really convict are the few who actually try to stand up for themselves against the criminals.
		Because most of the time, if big balls wasn't big balls, they'd probably just forgotten about this.
		Because I've had friends who've had their cars broken into or their motorcycle stolen, and the cops just say, tough luck.
		And that even happens with assaults and everything.
		And the only reason that this is getting national attention is because it's pissed off the United States of America, the president of the United States of America.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's the thing is, like, I don't even care about protecting DC residents or doing anything good for them.
		Honestly, like, screw them.
		I care about the Patriots that live in the city and work.
		There's not many of them, so we need to protect them.
		And yeah, so I don't, I mean, if it's going to help DC, it's like, I don't really care.
		I'm not countersignaling.
		I'm just saying, like, I don't care if it helps people in DC at all.
		This is for Patriots, so they can go to and fro Patriot institutions safely.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's our nation's capital.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		We should, and there's all these tourists from Middle America, and they don't want to be attacked and robbed.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, what's happening now is people are fleeing DC, and they're moving out here, and they're turning the areas purple, and they're bringing their dumb politics with them.
		Yo, it's wild, the developments that are going on in West Virginia.
		It's crazy.
		like yo there are plots of land out here that we were looking at years ago and it was like big plot of land couple million bucks something they're sold and now there's like 50 houses and it's just each each house now sold for half a million dollars and who's moving in people from dc who don't want to live in crime who voted for it and who will vote for it here and make everything worse and that's what they do It's like that scene from the Matrix where Agent Smith is like, you know, I tried to classify humans.
		And then he basically says that humans are a disease, a virus that spread from one region to another, destroying it.
		Liberals, maybe.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		It's like the aliens from Independence Day.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I mean, I live in one of the, or my place around here is in one of the new developments.
		I'm the first person to rent the place.
		And the area's nice and all my neighbors are nice and stuff, but it's, it's like, I do wonder, it's like, how many of these people are actually going to vote for, you know, conservative ideas?
		Are these people, are the people that are moving in here, are they actually going to, you know, vote red or are they going to be, you know, liberals and essentially try to make this place like where they came from?
		And it, you know, it worries me because I like the laws here in West Virginia.
		They're, even though my vote doesn't really matter because it's a very red state, I don't want to see it change.
unidentified		Yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		You know, so.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		That's an argument to get rid of the crime because you keep it as a democratic enclosure.
		These people stay there.
		They don't have a senator.
		They don't have any senators.
		And that's a reason to clean it up is that you can have their little utopia in DC and they're not moving out to West Virginia or to Virginia.
		Maryland's already blue, but, you know, it helps the other states have a competitive advantage and stay red.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, because that's kind of the, that's kind of this, sort of of a fallacy that Republicans have embraced is like they can just change everyoneone's minds.
		And it's like, at a certain level, you have to like, the head he has to lay the hammer down like the UN chief or the NATO chief called, it's not so accurate.
		It's like you have to lay the hammer down here.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		For people to change their minds, they need to actually have something happen to them, not just move, right?
		Like people have a nature, right?
		I don't believe in the clean, the blank slate, one bit.
		I think that people have a nature.
		When you're born, you're probably going to be a conservative.
		You're probably going to be a liberal.
		If something happens to you, that might change the way you see things.
		Like, you know, if you're a liberal and you get mugged or whatever, you might be like, well, maybe we do need more police or maybe I should., you know, maybe I should support the Second Amendment.
		But there's no guarantee of that because that, you know, you hear stories about people that get mugged and they're like, well, you know, the poor guy that mugged me, he, you know, they start making excuses like he was oppressed or whatever, you know, he had a hard life or whatever.
		So I don't, I don't believe that it's easy to change people's minds or or you can really have a conversation and make people say, you know what?
		I do think the left is actually wrong now.
		No, it's much harder than that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I love that video that James O'Keefe did where they went door to door and he was like, he's like, hi, we're gun control advocates.
		We believe that strong gun laws can prevent violence.
		They're like, well, we don't, it's like, can I put this sign in your yard so that we can, you know, and the sign says Proud gun free home.
		And the people are like, no, I don't want that on my lawn.
		And he's like, well, why not?
		I mean, we're here to make a statement that you don't need guns.
		And it's like, well, it sounds like you're inviting people.
		And then James goes, it sounds like you're saying you need guns.
		He's like, well, no, but yeah, we get it.
		You hope everyone thinks you have a gun and you don't want to tell them you don't.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because they wish they had guns.
		That's it.
		There was one viral video I saw where some woman bought a gun and then someone in her family, she was secretly recording herself and they were insulting her and calling her stupid for buying a gun saying it's dangerous, you're crazy, you know, you're going down a rabbit hole, blah, blah, blah, far right.
		Go back, go back to Venezuela.
		You lived there, went to the government, see how that goes for you.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		He had that one, I don't remember the name, it was, he was like a progressive Brooklyn activist and he was with his girlfriend on the show.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		And then he got like stabbed to death and his girlfriend was like, oh, he would have forgiven the guy.
unidentified		Yeah.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		And then she's like stumping for Zoran now.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		So it's like people could literally have the worst thing possible happen right in front of their face and they won't change their points.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		They're that fanatically loyal to these ideas.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		There's a lot of people in DC are like that.
		There was a guy that had some, there's a one story.
		is like in 2021 and 2022 when the crime was really bad.
		It's bad now, but it was really bad then.
		And there was some guy who built up a basketball goal for these local youths to play.
		And it was near his house, but they would play late and disrupt his kids' sleep.
		He had like a young daughter.
		And he went out and went nicely to tell them to not play basketball.
		And they're like, they thought he was disrespecting them.
		And then they beat the crap at him.
		And there was like blood all over the street.
		And then they took down the basketball goal.
		And then like, we still feel it was bad because, you know, we're white and they were not.
		And we're, you know, we're trying to be sens sensitive on this.
		It's like this guy, these kids nearly beat your husband to death and you still have these views.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's the suicidal empathy that they talk about these days.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't, I don't believe that it's a real thing.
		No, I think they're just terrified people.
		It's more of like capture.
		Like when that guy at the house says, No, don't put that sign in my lawn.
		It was him telling on himself.
		He knows exactly the importance of guns and guns as a deterrent.
		So he doesn't want to advertise his and have one.
		These people who are doing this thing about, Oh, but white people, whatever.
		What they're really saying is, Please just stop attacking us.
		I'll say whatever you want.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		It's like the, what was the story from a couple of years ago about the woman?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		who did the TED talk with the guy who raped her?
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		That's like, that's that is, that's not fear.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		That's just insane.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		There are a few insane people who will do that because there have been even stories that they love to highlight post Floyd, whereas like some daughter reached out to their father's killer.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		And of course, he was from an oppressed group and they were, we wanted to reach an understanding with him.
		And there was like even the stuff with Molly Tibbetts family, if you guys remember Molly Tibbetts, who was that, um, University of Iowa student who was raped and murdered by an illegal immigrant.
		And her family spent more of their time defending illegal immigrants and in some ways sympathizing with the killer because they were so upset that Don junior and other Trump conservatives were highlighting this case to show the danger of illegal immigration.
		And then they went all board to say, we love illegal immigrants.
		And we will not allow this to be politicized.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You all saw that AI interview that Acosta did with the puppeteering corpse.
		I like to refer to that as Jim Acosta puppeteering a corpse.
		For those of you that are familiar, the family of one of the Parkland victims loaded an image into an AI generator and some props to create a version of a facsimile of their son.
		I don't see that as any different than exhuming the corpse and jamming your hand in the back of the skull and puppeteering the face.
		So I think this is all just generally disgusting, disgusting behavior.
		But let's jump to this next story.
		We got some of the post millennial arson attack on ICE office in Washington forces agents to flee.
		Yo, this is crazy.
		Federal immigration agents were forced to flee a field office in Yakima, Washington over the weekend after an arson attack damaged the property.
		According to a report by the New York Post, the incident occurred on Saturday when an unidentified suspect reportedly threw a rock into the window of the building before igniting a fire behind the property.
		Flames were seen burning the grass outside the fenced perimeter and a large wave of smoke formed.
		No injuries were reported in the attack.
		The office is located about 140 miles southeast of Seattle and houses operations for ICE as well as Washington State Department of Social and Health Services.
		The attack comes as ICE personnel have seen an 830 percent increase in attacks, et cetera.
		We get it.
		You know what's fascinating is I think it was just a guitar laugh on the five today saying that the reason ICE is doing all these commercials where they're offering $50,000 sign on bonus.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		And there's like no, like there's no age limit to it now.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Dean Kane signed up, Superman.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But did he actually sign up to be an ICE officer like an agent?
unidentified		I did.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		He said I signed up.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I have no idea whether he's actually going to do it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He's like Tom Cruise in Edge of Tomorrow.
		Yeah, we need you to send you out there there and film so you look good.
		That's what they're trying to do.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		We need to send Tate to sign up and go through the Let's go undercover.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You sign up to be an ICE agent and then you report back and tell us what happened.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I can do this.
		It's my dream.
		I'm on the older side, so I'm like, I'm not Dean Kane.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		You're an Unk, the Unk podcast.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I'm Unk.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Unk track.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		fifty thousand dollars bonus.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Well, then, no, they were also doing the same thing for cops in DC, right?
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I want, I want, like, how long do you have to work there to get the fifty K?
		One year?
		Ending the age gap.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Bro, imagine like you, you sign up to go work for ICE and they send you to like Washington, you're like, yeah, no eagles here.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Let's know you're gonna get fire bombed every other day and then how do you get it?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I want how do you get the signing bonus?
		60,000 dollar student loan replacement.
		What does premium pay mean as an asterisk?
		What is it?
		Where does the there's no asterisk here.
		Let's see.
		Is there a cost to apply?
		No.
		What are the benefits compared to a ball club?
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Everybody ride around a club.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What happens?
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		We will move fast and get paid for it.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Be a patriot and say, dude, how are more people not taking up on this?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		It sounds like it might actually be like you probably have to be duolingual and duolingual.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Like you probably have to speak Spanpanish.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		You probably should make sure you're out here in Spanish.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Okay, Tate, do you want to be a deportation officer, a criminal investigator or a general attorney?
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		I want to be the office deportation officer.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Deportation, let's go.
unidentified		Your service, mister Trump, mister Miller, Stephen Miller, at your service, sir.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So let's see, you get a salary between, I got a question for you, honest question, salary is 49,739 to 89,528.
unidentified		Why?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		To what?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		89,528.
		Why couldn't they just be like 50 to 90?
		Why do they have to make this weird number?
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Because you got staff in like LA.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		You can't survive in LA with less than 90.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but why didn't they just put salary 50K to 90K instead of these weird $49,739?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		They're probably legally required to put the...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know what I was told by my accountant?
		My accountant said never round to zeros because it looks weird.
		So it's like, they're just like, just make it a weird number.
		Otherwise, it looks like it's fake.
		You got to be specific.
		All right, let's see.
		The job is open to the public.
		Citizens, nationals who owe allegiance to the U.S. Wow.
		Really?
		Just U.S. citizens, though?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		A large percentage of ICE agents are...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That makes sense.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		You imagine.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Okay, you must be a U.S. citizen.
		No, you must be a U.S. citizen.
		Pass a background test, background investigation.
		Males born after 1959 must certify registration with Selective Service.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		If you're born in 58, you don't have to worry about that.
unidentified		That's right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Pre-employment physical fitness test.
		Obtain secret clearance.
		Oh, that's cool.
		Carry a firearm, Tate.
		Ooh, Tate, you got to carry a gun.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Can you please let me do this, too?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Bro, no one's stopping you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You don't need my permission.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		And a lot can film.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, a lot can film.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		see three years three years of progressively responsible experience one year which is equivalent to the gs four level or above in the federal government.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What?
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I'm cooked.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Wait, what?
		Are you kidding?
		That's not open to anyone.
		Who's going to be able to take that?
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		The best I can do is four months of producing for a podcast.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		We'll take you.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Okay, wait, wait, we're in Afghanistan in 2015.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Hold on.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You've got to have a college degree.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		Yeah.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		To work, you have to have at least a four year degree to work for the government.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's see.
		It must have been attained by a credited university, one year full time undergraduate study defined as thirty semesters or for the quarters or combination of education experience, combinations of successfully completed post high school education and experience may be used.
		I call shenanigans on that.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Like I went to high school and I was in my local militia does that kind of.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		I went to school hard knocked.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I call shenanigans on telling people they got a grad, get a bachelor's degree in order to be an ICE agent.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		I mean, that's what they said.
		Tricia McLaughlin said you don't need a college degree to sign up for ICE, but I don't know.
		It says right here.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, no, you don't.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So long as you've got three years experience at GS four or above.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Or you've got combined college and government experience.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		Like if you've been a college for three years, you can forego the college degree, I guess.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Don't most police officers have, like, some kind of degree though, like a like, like, like, two year degree, a bachelor's degree?
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, a lot of them do.
		I mean, what does it say?
		I think like, a lot of state troopers require a college degree,, but not every police department requires one.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is the problem with government in general.
		Like, maybe you wouldn't need to offer fifty thousand dollars if you let people actually take a test to see if they're worth hiring.
		The problem I have with this is that as someone who has hired many people and with lots of experience in this, experience is lied about and easily faked and bachelor's degree proved literally nothing.
		So it's like if you want someone who's going to do the job and passionately and care about it, these are not ways to test for that.
		So now they're like, why would anyone apply?
		Guess we got our offer fifty grand.
		offer 50 grand bro, there's a whole bunch of working class Joe's with high school diplomas who would sign up in a heartbeat and would beg for 50k sign on bonus, take this job and begin the process, but they're iced out.
		So that's West Virginia, it's Ohio, Pennsylvania.
		Working class blue collar guys are gonna be like, well, I can't do it.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it's all part of the debt trap we're in in this country anyways, which is any job worth applying for is gonna require you to go to college for four years and put yourself into debt.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So technically, it's one podcast.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		Not a college degree for podcasting.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		You can just get the debt for the love of the game if you want.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		We probably need, yeah, much higher standards for podcasting.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		I mean, people that are podcasting these days.
unidentified		Oh my.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		A license.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah., you need a license.
		I think it would be good.
		Yeah.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I do sometimes wonder on her, like, who the hell let me in here?
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Can you believe they give me a mic?
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Stupid.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		To be honest, these are pretty strict qualifications.
		Pretty wild.
		Physical, you got to pass a physical test, which I get.
		They want you to be in to detain people.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		They like reconstruct the border wall and say you have to climb it and get over the other side.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But you actually did a lot to get this job.
		This is, they make it seem like in these advertisements that anybody can just get it, just apply and you'll get it.
		You can't.
		GL five experience or GL seven plus passing a physical fitness test, that one I do get.
		get motor vehicle operation age restrictions are listed here they just got rid of that but that was listed i say just take anybody and train them i don't see what the problem is that's what they should do honestly deportation officer okay what about what about criminal investigator that was gonna be real hard i bet that's gonna be like nah what do they pay it's uh 63 000 to 100 grand gl9 oh gl9 our government is a bunch of morons set up by other morons to tell morons what to do and they don't know what they're doing.
		General attorney.
		Oh, this one's different.
		That one's because you need a lot more, right?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		No law degree to go to be general attorney.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no, it's because the high school is is going straight.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But it's because they're only hiring five.
		Whereas like deportation officers are probably hiring tons.
		Yeah.
		You know, I look at this and I'm like, America needs you.
		That's not correct.
		That is not correct.
		I say there are a lot of people in West Virginia who'd love to get a $50,000 asylum bonus, get their student loans paid for, and they don't got college degrees, you know?
		But don't worry, guys.
		I will never be an ICE agent.
		You know why?
		Because I'm a high school dropout.
		For the left, you got nothing to worry about.
		You're not going to worry about anything.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I don't see why the feds won't actually train people.
		Like, there's no reason.
		that you have to have a college degree, especially if it's not a specific degree that they're looking for.
		It's like, oh, you just went to college some.
		It's like being like, well, you know, you can actually finish your, you know, finish work or you actually complete tasks that are given to you.
		The feds should train people because aside from, I mean, I can't, I can't imagine that there's anything particularly, you know, necessary, like, no, any, I can't imagine that there's any particularly special knowledge that you need to have that they can't give to you.
		You know, it's like you need to know the law.
		You need to be able to run, run people down if they're running away, you know, and, and you, you have to be able to work.
		on a team to some degree.
		Otherwise, what particular special knowledge do you get from college that they couldn't train you up in six months or a year or whatever?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So someone, Leland Taylor says, those are qualifications for GL levels not required for employment so what is the purpose correct me if I'm wrong what is the purpose of including you qualify for GL5 grade if you possess one of the following and it literally lists it as GL5 through seven does that not mean that this being a GL5 job requires you to meet the GL5 grade level and here are the things that can qualify you for GL5?
		Am I reading that?
		Am I wrong on this one?
		I could be wrong.
		I should understand why they would say qualifications for GL5 it's a GL5 job if they did not require that.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well there you go.
		Yeah I will say this.
		ICE has been reaching out to people to ask them to shout this out and to make videos promoting this campaign.
		They're serious about it.
		Yeah.
		DHS has been reaching out to people saying, Hey, we're trying to get the word out on this.
		Let everybody know.
		50k sign on bonus student loan repayment.
		We want to hire as fast as possible.
		That's a good sign.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		What's more dangerous?
		This or being DC police?
		Because they had like an ADK sign on bonus or something.
unidentified		Wow.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Wasn't it, sir?
		I thought, like, did you see that?
		Like, there was like, it was like on the buses in DC.
		It's like a huge sign on bonus to work for.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		I would say DC police would be more dangerous.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		More dangerous.
unidentified		Yeah.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		So higher sign on.
unidentified		Yeah.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		And the New York City subway, they had Capital police ads.
		It was the wildest thing.
		It was like right after J six.
unidentified		Yeah.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		No, I'd say DC police.
		If you ever got shot as an ICE agent, man, you're getting like the death.
		I mean, they would you're dealing with the federal.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		There's the it's pretty steep for attacking a federal agent or whatever, you know?
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		I can't imagine that there's just gonna be a lot of migrants, I guess, just want to run away rather than try to, you know?
		to make the problem worse.
		Federal police would be worse.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Holland.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it could be worse in other cities like Baltimore police.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		I would.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I saw the wire.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		I know it was fun.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Actually, let's jump to this next story, ladies and gentlemen.
		I hope you're ready for this new virus outbreak in China.
		What to know about the Chicken Gunya virus.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		The name is racist.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It is.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We can't say we're just going to say China virus to make it easier so you don't say anything racist.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		China virus to the revenge.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		A mosquito born virus and infected more than seven thousand people across thirteen cities in China has sparked precautions similar to those during COVID.
		The COVID pandemic in attempts to stop its spread despite the virus not being transmittable from person to person.
		So it's a way, yeah, right.
		The Qiqongunya virus, which spreads only through the bite of infected mosquitoes and is not fatal, has spread quickly across the more dozen cities in this other Guangdong province just north of Hong Kong with almost three thousand cases in the last week alone.
		So how long until we get the Qiqongunya vaccine?
unidentified		I mean, I suppose that companies making the vaccine.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I suppose that they have you have to wait until the mosquitoes can cross the Pacific or or they get all the way up through Russia and across Alaska and and through Canada to down here if you know if you can't get it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So you guys heard in the past couple days you know thimerosol was banned.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		What was that?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You guys did not talk about this.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		RFK Jr. just banned a bunch of vaccines.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		No.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Really?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		No.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		No, I've heard of that.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You had no idea.
		You know what happens when I'm out?
		RFK banned a bunch of vaccines.
		It was the biggest story in the world.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I defer to Kellen.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Like Kellen and Kellen was like, this is what you're talking about.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		This is all the mRNA stuff today.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, that too, but thimerosol specificallyally, which is the mercury based preservative, has been, what did he say causes autism?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is that what he said?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		He's told that that is a conspiracy.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I got something.
		He went after a bunch of them saying that we've determined that they have negative health effects, so we're not going to allow them in the market.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm pretty sure, like, what is this one?
		So there's a bunch of stories on this one.
		I would assume you guys would have read a little bit about it.
		Bunch of recent statements.
		Like he's basically saying this and that the data was, there's an addendum to data on these studies.
		And they're going to be pulling it out.
		I was talking to a doctor about this because, you know, we just had a kid and I'm like, so what does this mean for vaccines?
		And he was like, I have no idea.
		And it's like, okay, are they going to get rid of the current ones that have thymeirosol?
		It's like, I would assume so if RFK says get rid of them.
		Okay, so what what do we do?
		I don't know.
		And so my my my question is, if RFK junior is saying the mRNA vaccines are bad and thymeirosol is bad, though thymeirosol was removed from a lot of vaccines a long time ago, do you trust the government today or yesterday?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		No.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		YouTube said that they were going to ban people said bad things about vaccines, but now the head of HHS is saying that.
		Do I go with the government or the corporation?
		You tell me, YouTube, you tell me, because we got the chicikungunya virus.
		And when that vaccine comes out, I had no idea because I guarantee you RFK is going to be like, we don't need a vaccine for this one.
		And then I'm going to be like, but YouTube is going to ban me if I say that.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So are we on the side of the government or against them?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I have no idea what to do when the government says yes and then says no.
		So, I mean, it's kind of tough.
		Thimerosol is a mercury containing organic compound.
		So are they banning it because of the mercury content?
		Because if I was under the impression that there was no mercury in vaccines, that's the information that I had had most recently.
		But if thyme is a mercury containing organic compound, or is it the craziest thing in the world to me?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm just going to bring this up from the Guardian.
		We got a couple of stories in related to this one.
		RFK junior to remove preservative thyme is all from all U.S. vaccines.
		Anti-vaccine campaigns have targeted thyme is all for a decade despite no evidence of ingredient causing harm.
		I just want to bash my face as hard as I can into this table over and over and over again because the U.S. government made the claim.
		There's no evidence and they all went.
		Then the U.S. government came out and said there is evidence and they.
		And they still are like, no, our past government gave us the truth.
		This new government doesn't.
		And I'm just sitting here being like, the government has had both.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Why would the corporate press all of a sudden be like, nah, he's wrong?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Because it's partisan now because it's RFK.
unidentified		Yep.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because people are cognitively developmentally disabled.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Besides, the real RFK story has been all the sugar being banned from SNAP benefits and everybody freaking.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh my God.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		See the video today of the lady like at the counter?
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What happened?
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		She was just at the counter trying to buy her like junk food and the lady at the counter was like, it's not scanning with your SNAP.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Feel bad for the poor lady.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Like, I'm gonna have an accident.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		It's all yeah, it's all over Twitch.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		The poor lady working at the counters, like, look, what do you want me to do about it?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Like, the system literally won't let me sell it to you.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		Oh, they always love to blame the people, the cashier.
		I worked at, I worked at a grocery store once.
		They would always like to act like you're the one blocking all their grocery items.
		It's like, oh, like, it's not my decision.
unidentified		Yeah.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		It's like, I personally reject your coupon.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Like, oh, you don't need any more Oreos, buddy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		How do I find those?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You posted it?
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		They always act like the cashier.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I was, I was searching.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I was searching.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		The cashier isn't responsible for this.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I was searching X for the video, but all I was getting was porn.
		Oh.
		It's not a joke.
		And so Surge had to post the videos like, now here's the video.
unidentified		I was like, oh, okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Here we go.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Thanks, Surge.
unidentified		They really own that.
		They say no EDT.
		No, they own that.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		They own it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's awesome.
unidentified		I can only buy steak, chicken, vegetables, no snacks, no none.
		I can't eat it.
		I'm going to shit.
		They really did that shit, y'all.
		They did.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Good.
unidentified		They really own that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is the coolest thing I have ever seen.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		They're on it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't understand why my tax dollars are being taken away to give to some dude to buy Doritos and ding dongs.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's crazy.
		I don't even eat those things.
		I mean, these companies are only existing because poor people.
		get my money for free and then buy ho hoes and ding dongs.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		So they lobby heavily.
		The great, the great story is going to be incredible though.
		When someone's like accidentally gets in shape because because because this happened.
		Like he starts out and he ends up becoming a fitness influencer and getting millions of shares.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		They're going to be hired to work at ICE.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		Finally, you know, he wasn't able to go to college because he was poor and he was eating Doritos.
		Now thanks to RFK, he's getting healthy.
		He's working out.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		The seed oils left my body.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		He's now signing up to ICE to help protect the country.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		I think that's going to be the goodwill story of.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		That is amazing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I found another video.
		I didn't watch.
		I don't want.
		I don't know what it's about, but I'm gonna play it anyway.
unidentified		But you two, this is Gurkwe, and yes, we had Sam going to shop in Haw.
unidentified		So, you guys come along with us and let's get some stuff from the Sam's.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Trump say no.
unidentified		I'm really just, it's gonna be a very short video, just a little tick, tack.
		Boom, boom.
		You feel me?
		Okay.
		But yeah, guys, let's get some Animal Crackers for 8.98.
		So we're just gonna grab one of these.
		Yeah.
		My kids like Newfoundland Ball, so we paid for a box of 30 seeds for 9.98.
		So we're gonna grab that.
		We're gonna put one.
		So yeah, we are at all this time shopping.
		So we got some.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I would not eat any of that.
unidentified		A little box of some hot cheese.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Some good cheese.
unidentified		We're gonna get some hot cheese.
		The blow pops are just a step too far.
		I don't know, but that buttery garlic spice sounds pretty flaming.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		Do blow pops even have any calories?
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		I don't even have.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think it's just like So wait, wait, does she like try to buy it and they won't let her or what happens?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Or she just has a dog.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		She just stocks up right before they finish it.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		It looks like yesterday when this came out and she stocks up trying to get a bunch of this stuff before they said that you can't do it anymore.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Good for her paying attention to the news and getting one less shopping.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Did you I just want to say this as like you look at this morbidly obese woman buying industrial sized Nutri-grain bar boxes and blow pop boxes.
		I want to just imagine what it must be like being like some goat farmer in Afghanistan and you see this video on your $20 recycled phone and you're just staring at this morbidly obese American like, I'm going to buy all this food that's going to kill me.
		And you're sitting there and you look down and then a Taliban guy comes up and he's like, Death to America.
		And you're like, Yeah.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Pretty much.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		And then that goat farmer tries to get to America.
		They're like, I want to go to that thing.
		I want the blow pop.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		We need to be replicating the diets of the Taliban.
		I think that's the key.
		Because like, they're, it's pretty impressive what they've pulled off.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		A lot of hummus.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		It's like the videos when they, when they come here from a communist country and they're like, Holy crap, there's stuff in the grocery stores.
		They don't understand that a lot of people aren't even pa paying for that.
		They're like, oh yeah, you don't have your own money to pay for.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yo, let's be real.
		It's fascinating that when USAID goes belly up, Colbert's gone, Howard Stern's gone, and now they're cutting EBT, all of these junk food companies are gone.
		Like, how much do you want to bet most of this garbage food?
		Let me, I'm gonna tell you guys a secret.
		I'm gonna tell you guys how I went to a very fancy restaurant this weekend with my wife.
		It was 180 bucks a person.
		Yeah.
		And it was, it's one of those fancy places where, this is the craziest thing.
		It's a, it's like, it's like an executive chef restaurant and, uh, beforehand they're like, do you have any dietary restrictions?
		And my wife's like, I can't have dairy and I'm like, I don't do bread.
		And they were like, okay.
		And they made everything for us on the spot.
		And it was funny because it's a nine course meal.
		The first course was watermelon mint shooter of some sort.
		It was amazing.
		It's it's Potomac Restaurant Farm Restaurant.
		I recommend it.
		They're amazing.
		And the second course was literally like three or four bites.
		It was like a little rice chip with some with a teeny bit of tuna, a tiny piece of aubergine.
		What else was there?
		A rolled up piece of squash.
		And there was something else.
		I can't remember.
		All I know is looking at it.
		I was like, this is the miniest food I've ever eaten.
		And I was full.
		I was so full.
		I was sick.
		Yo, it's crazy.
		Like the main course is probably like two ounces of pork.
		And then I was looking at this food and I'm like, it takes two hours.
		They make it on the spot.
		It's fresh from the farm.
		The point is this.
		I'm sitting there and I said to my wife, I was like, I'm so insanely full.
		And they've given us just the miniest amount of food imaginable, but it was over a long period of time.
		And it was very little carbs.
		It was a lot of vegetables, proteins.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And some carbs from fresh vegetables and fruits.
		Like they did one thing where it was peaches and like a hybrid apricot peach thing.
		And it was like olive oil and basil.
		It was amazing.
		And then I was thinking about like videos like this where the lady is like, I'm gonna get an industrial box of NutriGrain bars and eat it all today.
		And I was like, poor people are eating like fifteen pancakes and rich people are eating tiny pieces of meat over two hours.
		So they're thin and they're full and poor people are not getting the nutrition because they're gargling boxes of Cheerios.
		So their body is like, I didn't get enough protein, eat more.
		And they're like, just keep eating because I'm not full.
		Meanwhile, I ate like three apple wedges this big and I was like, so full, real food.
unidentified		I'm wondering.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		You used EBT at that restaurant after you sign up for ice you'll hopefully they'll issue an EBT card for a fee for an experiment.
unidentified		Yeah.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		twenty to twenty five percent of coke sales are tied to EBT and snap.
unidentified		Wow.
unidentified		Yo.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		It's short to stock now.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, wait, is this the video?
		I found, I think I found it.
		Let's go.
		So there's those two.
		Yeah, we got it.
unidentified		Yeah.
		So there's those two.
		That's an aggressive move.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Trump ain't playing.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I was going to say, I love the captioning on all of these.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		It's so funny, dude.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		We're not playing any more fake.
unidentified		Damn, what is it?
		Oh my god, that's crazy.
		Not even the juice.
		The juice, yeah.
		No.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, juice is not.
unidentified		They didn't take the juice for it.
		What I thought of that.
		Look at it, look at my.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, they're not talking about orange juice, they're talking about cooling.
unidentified		yeah Yeah.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Don't she get back?
unidentified		Yeah, I'm gonna go mine.
		So what's the message?
		No, they didn't take the Reese's.
		Oh, man, that's even the Reese's bad is magical.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		This is magical.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		Surely magical.
		Not the Reese's.
		That's the vote, like the gym.
		That settles it.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		It's Reese's, not Reese's.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		It settles it.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		It's like Reese's.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I will vote for Trump ten times.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		Reese's protein.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		More.
unidentified		Yeah.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's peanuts in it, it's healthy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Just for this, just for banning the sugar-rich garbage from these benefits, I would vote for Trump, Trump junior, Eric Trump, Laura Trump, Ivanka, Ivana, all of them.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I know Ivana recipes, but all of them, every single one, just for this.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I wonder what this is, if how much this is going to affect the resale value of snap benefits because you know they were selling.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		They were selling.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh bro.
		If you ask a question, Dollar, it's going to go down.
		I appreciate it better than that, but back in Seattle, people would do that outside the stores.
		They'd be like, hey, what are you getting in there?
		And then someone would be like, I'm just going to get some chips and they'd be like, let me buy them for you.
		Just give me the money.
		They would do one for one.
		People would be like, yeah, okay, whatever.
		And they'd be like, how much is it?
		It's a dollar fifty.
		It's a dollar fifty.
		I'll buy them for you.
		That's what they do.
		And then they take that money from the benefits and they go buy drugs.
		Here's the crazy thing.
		You know, I like Seattle.
		When I first moved there, I was broke and I had a handful of change.
		I think I had like $2.50 in just pennies, nickels and dimes.
		And I walked into a gas station and I grabbed a sandwich.
		It was like $1.49 and I put it on the counter.
		And then I was like, let me, I'm sorry dude.
		I apologize for all the coins.
		That's all I got.
		And he goes, bro, you can have all the sandwiches.
		And I was like, what?
		And he was like, it's $11.
		We're going to throw them out.
		Just take them.
		And I was like, let's go.
		And he turned them all in the bag.
		And I was like, Seattle.
		You know, it's just too bad that a bunch of lefty wackaloons took over because that was all right.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, when you watch Fraser, Seattle looks like the peak of human civilization.
		And you go there now and it's just like Mad Max.
		It's really sad.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		So decadent, but.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Monorail.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They have a functional monorail.
unidentified		Oh, it did.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		The space needle.
		Apparently it's like really hard to get into now, I guess.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Really?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Those were the days, man.
		You go up there and you say, I'd like to go to this restaurant.
		It is kind of creepy what's happening too with population size.
		I think, you know, I know I bring it up a lot, but I feel like people just really aren't paying attention to the social order collapse that is happening around us.
		Just in terms of there's not enough people to sustain the system.
		Nobody had babies.
		Economic collapse was the beginning of the end.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Yeah, there's this, there's this YouTuber, Gerbert Johnson.
		He's like 18 or something.
		And he makes these videos talking about how like there's no other young people around.
		And he makes video after video.
		And he's like being very frank.
		And he's just like bringing on these other guys to talk about.
		And it's like everyone is noticing that's young, that there's not many young people around in some of these public spaces.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		And oh yeah, it's it's rapidly declining.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		We're only like 4.5% of the population are young men anymore.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		It's like, that's how I feel.
		And like, yeah, you watch his videos that show the graphs and stuff.
		I'm like, okay, so I'm not crazy.
		Like, it's actually this bad.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's actually that bad.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I mean, Tim talks about it all the time.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		There's like, what, 30% fewer, uh, Gen Z than there is of millennials.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		It's making it harder to find spouses.
		I mean, I've said it before, but where the hose at is a very salient question.
		I don't know where they are.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		And they complain about good men scarcity.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		I know, right?
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		Where are the good men?
		They can't find them.
		They're stuck playing video games apparently.
		But no, the one positive aspect is that the national crime level they believe is due to fewer young men.
		Now obviously that's not an effect in places like DC, Baltimore, Memphis, Jackson, but nationally we have fewer young men to commit crime.
		It's not going to be 55 year old guys committing most of the crime.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, I mean, it's going to be, it's going to be interesting because I don't think the cities are going to shrink at all.
		Like we don't see any indication that the cities are going to shrink.
		It's just going to be the countryside and the smaller towns are going to be completely gone.
		And the dynamics are going to be really rough for people that are still out in the countryside.
		I mean, it's going to be like third world level conditions within like 30, 40 years.
unidentified		Yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		fact that there aren't people to replace the people that are dying is going to make a big impact on not just finding a spouse or whatever, but you're going to have a loss of ability to do things.
		The ability to manage It's not just a matter of, oh, there's not going to be enough people to pay for social security.
		It's there's not going to be enough people to maintain the internet, to maintain the power lines.
		You look at Detroit.
		Was that?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Look at Detroit, right?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is what's going to happen to every major city.
		Detroit is what happens when you have population decline.
		And that is happening now.
		Democrats are like, I have an idea.
		Let's tell everybody to get world.
		Tell everybody to get abortions, don't have kids, and then we'll open up the borders.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		So I think the problem we face right now is Trump may be trying to reverse all of this, but Democrats, whether it was intentional or otherwise, and a lot of people say it was, kicked this off, and there is no remedy.
		Certainly Trump can say we're going to deport all all these people, but you can't create eighteen-year-olds tonight.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So he's cooked.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's going to get weird.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It's going to get weird.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		I think there's some things that people are downplaying.
		Like college is going to be really an essential matriculation for young people because it's going to be the last time in your adult life you're going to be surrounded by people of your own age.
		So you're seeing a lot of people right now that are skipping college that are zoomers are really struggling to meet friends and find spouses and things.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There won't be college.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There are college are already starting to shut down because there's no eighteen-year-olds to enroll.
unidentified		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So they're not making any money anymore.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		There's still cutting their funding.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So you combine the fact that Trump is going after their funding and the fact that there's no eighteen year olds to actually sign up and they're going to start shutting down.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm saying they're definitely shutting schools.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		I mean, they're shutting elementary schools.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm actually I'm actually really excited for this because, you know, I've been to Columbia in New York and, you know, I've seen the campus and everything.
		It's going to be really cool when young, young, like teenagers are there in like ten years and they're going to be like, we don't go to the East Wing of the campus anymore.
		It's abandoned.
		Some say there are gangs.
		I heard there's ghosts and it's going to be just like this really creepy, rung down place and there's going to be like old man Franks, the old professor.
		of communist theology or whatever they call it because they're religious and it's going to be like lurking in the hallways.
		Some say the old communist professors are still lurking in the hallways and if they catch you they'll turn you Marxist.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's the thing that's going to suck is the cities like New York and LA are not going to shrink.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Like those cities are going to be huge forever.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		Those schools are probably going to be the ones that I disagree.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		The most left winged schools.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I disagree.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		That's where all the jobs are going to be.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		I mean, that's the trend so far.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like they've there are people there are people who live in rural areas, bro, and they always will and they're not going to abandon it.
		The issue for cities is that it's city people not having kids.
		So they're growing, it's but it's immigration that's growing them, not human birth.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		Well, they recruit from the suburbs is that.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		Those kids, the generation before had the kids out in the suburbs or rural, and then the kids want to move to the cool cities, which is just a handful of cities.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm pretty sure we covered this numerous times that population growth in the US is driven by immigration, not by births.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Native Americans are declining as a share of the population, like in raw numbers.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, since, you know, Columbus arrived.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Well, like actual Native Americans.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		The other type of Native Americans.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, like me.
		But no, but yeah, I mean, it's like, okay, yes, the population is declining, but it's like these people, the jobs just aren't there anymore in the smaller towns, especiallyally I mean, like the Rust Belt exhibit A, and those people didn't just disappear.
		They moved to like major cities.
		Suburbs of major cities.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The cost of living in cities is too great.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		But you mean they'll go for it.
		That's where jobs are.
		That's where social life is.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's where jobs don't go.
		Listen, whenever a population in nature reaches its equilibrium, everyone is starving and suffering.
		When there's just enough food to survive, you're sickly and starving.
		We have this with the deer every year.
		There's warnings that go out like if people don't hunt the deer, the deer eats all available leaves and garbage, and then there's too many of them, and they're all sickly and like covered in lesions.
		It's disgusting.
		That's what's going to happen to these cities as population declines.
		Sure.
		People in the suburbs are going to try and look for jobs, but literally everybody will.
		So you'll have big cities full of disease and scum, which will cause an inverse effect of people leaving the cities.
		So it's an ebb and a flow.
		This is how it goes.
		Look, look, tell me why Detroit's not growing.
		It's a city.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Detroit is actually very different now than it was ten years ago.
		It is.
		It's like it looks completely different now than it was ten years ago.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but you're talking about like in city gardens on rooftops with a bunch of hippies who pay 100 bucks a month to live in a studio apartment.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Like the population stopped shrinking.
		It's the thing is like the way that like Western liberal democracies are designed is the cities are too big to fail and they can't collapse.
		Like the only way to collapse a city is like South Africa.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		I mean, there are cities in Detroit.
		It's in rapid decline.
		I mean, there are off-market cities that nobody wants to move to, like Baltimore.
		But the big cities.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		It's been that way for a long time though.
unidentified		Yeah.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		LA, DC, even San Francisco has reversed some of the exodus that it had.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		Seattle, as we were talking about, all these cities are still going to have people going there.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		And even with fewer people having kids, there is still that dream for people in the small towns to move to the big city.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		And that's just like baked into the culture here in America.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		And there's been a massive brain drain from the small towns because they don't, they feel like there's no jobs for them there.
		And they feel the only jobs they have are in these major urban areas.
		And there's fewer people their age there.
		I mean, there's, you know, young people.
		You know, Middle America is definitely aging.
		Yeah.
		There's not as many people there for them to socialize with and marry.
		And so the places you want to socialize with people your age and find, you know, a spouse, you have to go to the city.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		New York had, or yeah, New York has like its own propaganda arm where the guy goes around and he's like, show me your apartment.
		And it's like 600, it's like, it's like the size of a Yeah, it's a closet.
		It's like, I paid 900 dollars to live in something that's as wide as my shoulders.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		I paid 1600 dollars for a 10 by 6 room.
unidentified		Yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Good grief.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		But you do it.
		It's like, people do it.
		Millions of young Americans do it.
		And you can laugh, you can call them stupid.
		But it's like, that's the way the market is and people are willing to pay that price.
		It's what it is.
		And it's not all liberals either.
		You meet a lot of conservatives in places like DC and New York that are young.
		It's a big emerging, big emerging scene, I guess you would say.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The state of Michigan over the past ten years has gained two hundred thousand new residents.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I'm saying the city doesn't look like it looked ten years ago.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		It's not lore, you know, it's not lore beat up in the same way.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		And even without food, you can look at like the UK.
		I mean, London continues to grow.
		Every young person in the UK continues to move to London for work and they are a net importer of food, like one of the largest net importers of food in the world.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, oh.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		I mean, the UK is that we only have one city basically.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So Detroit just reversed this trend.
		From 2015 until 2022, the city was declining by large numbers.
		2020 was the biggest, minus 32,000, but obviously COVID.
		And in 2023, it turned around with an increase of 1,852.
		And as of 2024, it gained an additional 12,487.
		2025 has not released your numbers yet.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I was going based off silly.
		I had been there several times skating when I was younger.
		And it was actually awesome for skating because...
		There were abandoned buildings everywhere.
		There was awesome stuff to skate.
		And now a lot of that stuff has been gentrified.
		And like my, like I had friends out there there who were buying houses back then with like one job and they were then flipping these houses and becoming rent, you know, they were renting out places to people because they got the property for next to nothing.
		And now a lot of those houses have been bought up and it's gentrified in a lot of ways and the city is beautiful downtown.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		That's even like where I'm from, Memphis, that's happening now, it's like the downtown, the riverfront is gentrifying these.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'd also like to add to this, however, that time frame that shows population growth, what does it coincide with?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		What were the years?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		2020 was when there was a mass exodus and it slowly reversed to where they're up looking at all this population growth.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that was mass illegal.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Was all those people in the plains in the middle of the night being shipped there overnight?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, probably was.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		I can't remember if Detroit was.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If people aren't having kids, where are the people coming from?
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Well, people are drening out the countryside.
		Yeah, because it's borne out by the census data.
		Unfortunately, and I don't like that.
		It's sad.
		Like, my family's from a small town in Illinois, and that city's gone, that town's gone, but they're where are they?
		They're all in the suburbs of Chicago or Milwaukee or Memphis.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		It's not that they're organically growing that population there.
		It's that other people are leaving small towns and they're going there.
		And that place has a huge population decline, and while the city gains from that.
		I mean, there's also the migrants that were going there.
		I don't know if they were shipping them to Detroit.
		They were picking.
		They were picking these random off-market cities to send a bunch of them to.
		But it was all depending on public benefits and they would go where the best public benefits were, which were Chicago, Boston, New York.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Check false.
		In the US landscape has shifted since the COVID-19 pandemic between 2020 and 2021.
		Rural areas are actually growing in with net domestic migration around 0.47 percent compared to negative and near zero rates in prior years.
		Correspondingly, urban migration rates are dipping.
		Young adults in particular are moving to small towns and rural areas.
		The highest rate in nearly a century drawn by affordability, natural amenities and flexibility of remote work.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the year was on.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is, this is since 2020.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		That's post COVID.
		So it's like the right.
		So the year is after COVID, everyone.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		Now they're forcing everyone to go back to the office.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		We are seeing population growth in places like Detroit for an obvious reason.
		Joe Biden brought in ten to twenty million illegal immigrants and started flying them to various cities.
		But if the argument is that rural areas are shrinking and cities are recruiting from rural areas, at least Economic Research Service and the New York Post say that is not correct.
		People who live in these cities are actually moving to small towns because the property is cheaper.
		At least that's that's that's the experience I've seen.
		Like, dude, the crazy thing is out here in the middle of nowhere, we got bungalows for half half a million dollars.
		This is two bedrooms.
		But if you want to live in New York, it's impossible, literally impossible, if you're Gen Z to live in New York unless you're rich.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		Well, you'd have to look at the long term change from, say, 2000 or 1990 to see the change in how the heartland is.
		I mean, we've gained population since 1990.
		And some of that is actually coming, and some of the rural increase is actually coming from the same migrants.
		Because, I mean, look at Springfield, Ohio.
		I mean, that's not quite small town.
		Or well, that is a small town, but that's not quite super small town.
		But all of its population growth was from all these Haitians showing.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		up.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I just have to say, I feel like anyone who's been to a big city as of recent has, if you choose to pay attention, you've noticed the buildings where you're like, it's a skyscraper and you're like, I wonder what they do there.
		And then you notice the windows, garbage, garbage, garbage, garbage, garbage, empty, empty, naked guy.
		I was in Chicago for the fourth and we were, we stay at Trump and there's a building right next to it and you're like, I wonder what they do there.
		And then this is like a bunch of garbage.
		And I always wondered that like in New York under de Blasio, he was talking about basically evacuating these big buildings because of COVID., people were leaving and he was going to buy them up for pennies on the dollar.
		I think the issue for a lot of people is you can't see when the buildings are becoming vacant.
		You don't see who's in that building on the sixteenth, seventeenth, eighteenth, nineteenth floor.
		It's just a skyscraper and people are walking around buying food.
		But this is the data that we've been seeing for some time now that people are leaving the big cities.
		We did.
		And that was part of the ongoing trend of people being like, it's you can't, you know why we left?
		Couldn't afford property.
		And I was making good money.
		This is back in like 2018.
		I was making real good money on YouTube.
		I was wealthy by New York standards.
		Well, I would say top twenty percent New York standards, which is, which is a lot of money, probably half a million a year a year.
		And I was like, I can't afford a house here.
		So I was like, what about Jersey?
		Cannot afford a house in Jersey is crazy.
		And then I was like, South Jersey, I can't.
		So I bought a house in South Jersey.
		And then we were there and the laws were draconian during COVID and we didn't even have as bad as most people.
		And I was like, we better get out of here.
		So we went to Western Maryland and then we were like, that was a mistake, West Virginia.
		The trend as far as I can tell and everything I've been seeing is that people are fleeing cities.
		So when we see data showing cities are growing, the only explanation, Joe Biden's mass immigration.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Certainly immigration numbers are like juicing, juicing it.
		But like, I mean, maybe in like post COVID there was a bump and like a return out of cities.
		But if you look at, like, since the 1970s, 1980s, the Industrialization, like it's been a huge emptying out.
		And this is replicated across the entire West.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		And the small towns were receiving the same migrant surges as them.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		And it was sometimes more noticeable, like in Springfield, Charleroi and all these other very.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		When we're tracking young Americans, for which there are very few, they're moving to small towns.
		At least that's what we see in the data.
		That's what we've seen and we've talked about for quite a bit.
		What I'm saying is, there are no young people.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They're and they predicted this after the market crashed in 2007 or with the start of the market crash.
		And they said, there will be a shortage of eighteen year olds in eighteen years because no one's having families now.
		And I didn't realize at the time they were talking about me because I was in my early twenties and that's when historically I should have been having a family, but I was sleeping on floors and couches.
		There was no way I was going to have a family and I was trying to apply for jobs.
		I couldn't find anything.
		So me and all my friends, we were couchsurfing and and doubling up in studio apartments.
		We didn't have kids then and we were supposed to, and now there's this huge age gap.
		So what's going to happen to these big cities when all the 70-year-olds die?
		They're not retiring.
		They won't retire.
		Holy crap, for the love of all that is holy crap.
		Retire, retire, retire.
		They won't do it, but they are going to die.
		And then what happens when they do?
		And there's no 18, they're going to be, we're going to need 25-year-olds in a few years and there aren't any.
		So who's going to do these jobs?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		This is exactly why, you know, Musk is betting and Musk and a lot of people in the tech world are betting on automation, betting on robots.
		That's that's whether or not it'll be successful, I can't say.
		But that's the bet they're making.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So it's going to be a handful of ultra wealthy people who own fleets of robots and you're going to go to New York and there's going to be robots everywhere doing everything.
		Clank.
		And you're going to be like, wow.
		That's a hard arm, man.
		We don't, is it clank?
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Clank us.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We're allowed, you're allowed to do that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know what I mean?
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Don't kill me robots.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I wonder if Sticks' audience takes offense to that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I was thinking that's their name.
		I was thinking that.
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phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I actually wonder.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right, we're going to grab your rumble rants and super chats.
		All right.
		Micah Dot Johnson says, Phil, regarding two weeks ago, I feel like if people gain weight while in a deficit, they should stop dieting and start powering the grid.
		They've broken thermodynamics.
		Ha, keep up the good work, guys.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I think he's talking about calories in versus calories out.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The issue is I I really can't stand the overly simplistic like Neil deGrasse Tyson.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It's true.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's just calories in calories out.
		That's all that matters.
		No, it's not.
		If you're eating literally nothing but carbohydrates and not protein, you're going to imbalanceance your system.
		Your system is not going to be able to put out energy and it's going to accumulate.
		So you're just going to get fat while being depressed and slovenly and lazy and be like, I don't understand why everything hurts all the time.
		So this arguments where it's like just calories in, calories out, you're going to lose weight, not correct.
		If you it's not correct.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It's absolutely correct.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		If you eat a thousand, if you are out there burning two thousand calories.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		How do you burn two thousand calories if you don't have protein to move your muscles?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		If you're burning two thousand calories a day and you're taking in only a thousand calories, you're going to lose weight.
		You will burn your muscles away.
		Yes, but you will lose weight.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So this, the problem with this is.
		it is one of those technically correct statements that doesn't help anyone actually lose weight.
		So that's what's really annoying about Neil deGrasse Tyson saying, all that matters are calories in, calories out, and you'll lose weight.
		Do people want to burn off their muscles and be fat with no ability to move their skeleton?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		No.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Do they want to be sickly and diabetic?
		No.
		They want to be fit with good muscle mass and feel energized and not be depressed, and that is not calories in calories.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That's what people should go for.
		That is not what people that is not what people actually are.
		They don't cognitive know that that's what they want.
		When you when I tell people when they say, you know, they're like, oh, you know, I I want to shape my body.
		So I don't lift muscle.
		I only do cardio.
		I don't do cardio.
		I don't lift weights because I don't want to look bulky, right?
		That is, you're not that is a that is a misnomer that you're going to get bulky just by lifting weights.
		You shape your body by lifting weights.
		If you want to have like a nice butt, you have to lift.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The point is, if there's someone who is obese and you tell them calories in calories out is all that matters, do you think they will lose weight?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		If if they're obese, they most likely will not just simply lose weight because they have multiple problems.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		But if you are, if you're talking about how to lose weight, what kind of how the amount what?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What kind of weight?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, that's that's a totally different topic.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So here's the is saying I want to lose weight means I want to shave off muscle mass.
		This is the problem I have with people going, you want to lose weight, calories in, calories out.
		No, there is a person who's fat, they're eating 700 carbs per day and 13 grams of protein.
		And they're getting like 50 grams of fat and they're going like, I'm only eating 2000 calories a day, but I'm gaining weight like crazy.
		Okay, well without protein, your muscles, your body's in starvation mode while storing as much as possible into fat.
		You need to cut the carbs down, increase the protein and fat.
		I can eat thousands of calories in meat and fats and not put on weight.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		If you were to eat 3,000 calories a day in meats and fat and only burn 1,500, you will add on both muscle and fat.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Agreed.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And if you eat 3,000 calories of carbs without protein, you're going to gain massive fat.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		But if you don't lift and don't have resistance training, you're not going to add on muscle, you're going to add on fat because your body can take protein and turn it into fat.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So let's go.
		Here's the point I'm making.
		If a person who doesn't exercise is consuming calories in appropriate numbers of carbs, proteins, and fats, they will add on muscle, whether they try or not.
		Men naturally do, especially young men because of testosterone.
		It's a fact.
		And you will produce more testosterone, or at least the adequate amount you should have from eating fats.
		If you don't have fat and you don't have protein and you're eating lots of carbs, men will not produce adequate amounts of muscle or testosterone because they're not getting the proper balance and the carbs will be stored as fat.
		This is calories and calories out is an overly simplistic statement that doesn't actually help anybody.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I still I disagree because the average person isn't going to make the kind of the macro decisions that you're talking about, right?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		If you're an overweight person and the like the first steps that you have to take are to reduce your calories if you actually want to lose weightight.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Every single time this conversation comes up, or I should say, you know, not to be hyperbolic, 80% of the time people tell me like, you know what, man?
		I was cutting down calories, but I wasn't losing weight and I couldn't figure it out.
		And I'm like, were you exercising?
		And they're like, I was trying, man.
		It was just hard.
		I wake up feeling sick and it's like, I I had a friend who was morbidly obese when he was a kid and he couldn't figure it out.
		And I'm like, bro, for breakfast you had a bowl of Frosted Flakes.
		For lunch you had a bowl of Macaroni and Cheese.
		And for dinner you had a bunch of you had some sandwiches.
		You had some peanut butter and jelly sandwiches.
		You ate nothing but carbohydrats.
		Your body can't function without the fat and protein to operate.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		So you're just getting sick.
		Proper nutrition versus how to lose weight, right?
		If you're saying you have to take, you have to have proper nutrition while you're trying to lose weight, yes, that's true.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So you're saying that if there's a morbidly obese person or just a generally obese person, clearly their diet is unbalanced, they're not exercising enough, you wouldn't confer to them the requirement of proper nutrition?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm telling you that if you're would you hire a personal trainer who says, it doesn't matter what you eat, just eat carbs but don't eat too much?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		No, I wouldn't, I mean, I wouldn't hire a personal trainer in the first place, but no, no, that's not my question.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Would you go to a gym?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		where the guy says you, you walk in and say, I'm trying to get, I'm trying to lose weight, would you hire a guy who says, it doesn't matter what you eat, just eat a bunch of carbs as long as you eat 1900 calories of carbs.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		If you're doing 2500, if you're burning, if your metabolic rate is burning 2500 calories a day and you're going to take in 1900 calories a day and your goal is to just lose weight, then you're going to lose weight.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Again, that's that's you're adding context that I'm that I'm this is the point specifically avoiding.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You're ignoring the point that I'm making.
		The average person who wants to lose weight is trying to burn fat.
		It doesn't help them to say calories in, calories out, have a nice day.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It does.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It does more than allow than saying, Oh, just eat whatever you feel like and don't burn any.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Or you can just say cut the carbs out, eat more protein.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You'll feel better.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		You don't know that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You're going for walks.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		You don't know that because if they cut the carbs out and eat more protein, that doesn't mean that they're going to be in a caloric deficit.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		And if they're not in a caloric deficit while getting proper nutrition, they're not going to lose weight.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So the average young guy who eats nothing but protein will put on a lot of muscle because testosterone naturally will develop muscle.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		If he's lifting.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You don't have to be lifting.
		Men naturally will put on muscle.
		There is, of course, there is an increase in muscle mass you get from lifting and you should be lifting, but men naturally will put on muscle through testosterone.
		This happens through development.
		At a certain point, you go through sarcopenia.
		Your muscles start to break down unless you're exercising.
		But young guys with proper fat will produce testosterone.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Your body can turn excess protein into fat.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Indeed, it can, but that's through work.
		If you're eating, work.
		Yes, it's a gluconeogenesis.
		It is difficult for the body to do.
		So if you're telling a fat person, you can eat whatever you want, just don't eat that much, they're going to remain sick, confused, and understand why it's so hard for them to go for a run.
		They're going to say, Runs are painful, and I get sick, and I throw up and I fall out.
		And you're going to say, You're eating bad food.
		You're not sleeping right.
		You're not drinking water.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		But if they're out of shape, Runs are going to be hard and painful anyways.
		If you're in shape, Runs are hard and painful.
		So I mean, like, I understand what you're saying that nutrients are important, but at the end of the day, if you're getting, if you're getting proper nutrients and you're not in a caloric deficit, you won't lose weight.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So the point is, obviously, you need a caloric deficit, but telling someone who has excess fat, they can eat anything and they will, and they will lose weight in deficit is wrong.
unidentified		I mean, it's factually wrong.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It's factually wrong.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's factually wrong.
		You, you cannot function to lose the weight if you're malnourished.
		It's factually wrong.
		You cannot function to lose the weight if you're malnourished, if you're eating wrong food.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		You can't if you're not getting proper nutrition.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		People who are fat, it is largely because they're eating bad food.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Usually, well, I mean, it's because they're eating bad food, but also because of the sedentary lifestyle.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Like if you're eating bad food and sitting around, then you're going to put on a lot of weight.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And can you reverse a sedentary lifestyle if you're not getting proper protein and fat?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I mean, you can start to, yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		But just getting up and moving around, yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Largely, no.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Your muscles can operate without protein.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Your muscles will not repair properly, but you and your muscles will still break.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Your muscles can still be broken.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So if they're not eating protein, how do they build muscle to be able to exercise?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		They're not necessarily going to build muscle if they're just looking.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		to burn fat.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So how do they exercise to burn fat if their muscles don't work?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Your muscles don't stop working like that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If you're not eating protein, will you put on muscle mass?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		If you're not eating protein, you're not going to build muscle mass, no.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so if you have some muscle and you start working out but you're eating no protein, will your muscles eventually break down till you can't work out?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it's not going to happen overnight and it's not going to be something that takes, you know, that happens quickly.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I mean, you're not just going to go ahead and be like, okay, so I started exercising a month ago and I lost all my muscle mass or now I lost all my ability to move and now I only have body fat and I have bones and body fat.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Improve your ability to burn burn calories if your muscles are breaking down.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		You do want to build muscles to help your metabolism.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So what's the proper recommendation to a person who is overweight?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		The first thing that you tell people when they're overweight is to start taking walks, right?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Just because if they're what I'm saying, like we're creating a plan for someone who's serious about losing weight.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We don't just say calories in calories out.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		No, if you're a nutritionist that's making a plan for someone or if you're trying to make a plan, yes.
		But most people take in too many calories overall, right?
		That doesn't matter what their food, what their food intake, intake is.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And there's a difference between calories from carbs and protein and fat.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Marginally, yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Not marginally.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Without fat is used to produce hormones in your body, protein is used to produce muscle, carbohydrates are used by the cells to produce to power the cells with glucose the mitochondria so if you're eating nothing but carbs you're producing excess glucose if you're eating nothing but protein your body will build muscle mass till its natural apex and then start converting through gluconeogenesis into sugars to use to burn for your body or converting to sugars which it will store as gluconeogenesis it also stores fat but only after you've reached your muscle capacity uh i mean that depends on that's
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		that depends on the person but even still the fact of the matter is if you're eating too many calories even if they're all protein you will put on there's a difference what but there is a difference either way you, you have to if you want to burn calories, you have, or if you want to be, lose weight, you have to be in a caloric deficit.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		So that's not a dispute.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's not a dispute.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The point is telling someone calories in calories out doesn't help them.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Well, okay, so fine.
		If you think that if the argument that you're making is that it takes more than just calories in calories out to have someone in a healthy way lose weight, then fine.
		Okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You That's the problem I have with Neil deGrasse Tyson, because then people are like, I had a bowl of Frosted Flakes, but it was a small bowl, and I still feel sick.
		How is it so easy for you guys to skate?
		I've dealt with this my whole life.
		I'm like, bro, you had a bowl of macaroni and cheese for breakfast.
		I had a steak.
		I feel like a million bucks.
		And they're just like, I don't understand.
		And I'm like, if you want to exercise consistently, you need protein.
		If you want to regulate your hormones, you need fat.
		If you're not getting fat and protein, your muscles and your hormones are out of whack and you're putting on weight like crazy.
		Anyway, that was a fun debate.
		Let's read the last few Super Chants.
		CJ Johnstone says NCSB50 is one vote away from getting constitutional carry in North Carolina coming up later this month.
		Let's go.
		Right on.
		Shane H. Wilder says, I saw the Charlestown protesters last weekend.
		They needed to call calm down.
		I thought they were going to throw out a hip.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		What were they protesting about last week?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Trump.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Well, I know that, but like what specifically?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		Someone protested my cyber joke today.
		Yeah, you missed it, Tate, after you guys left.
		Oh, wow.
		We went to Stuckies.
		I don't know when this video is coming up, so I probably should announce this right away, but there's this spot in, I think it's in Inwood, West Virginia.
		It's Stuckies at Superior Market, and it's this guy.
		He just opened this new restaurant.
		He opened like a year ago, and he's got a wing challenge.
		It's if you can finish 10 hot wings within 10 minutes.
unidentified		Thanks.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You win 150 bucks.
		Tate tried it.
		He got four and a half wings down.
		He holds the record.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They're like, dude, he, he, it's real food.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I was like, my concern was he was going to put weird garbage in it to make it seem spicy.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		We watched him right in front of us.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Peppers that he, he flies in imports, blended up to make a sauce, tossed the wings in them and the wings are bomb as it is.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And Tate's strategy was slam them as fast as possible.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then he couldn't, he couldn't do it.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		My throat like closed up.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		I was actually like kind of scared for it.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Do you have blue cheese with them or ranch?
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you got to raw dog them.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Really?
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And you have to finish one.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He finished one wing and he was, you were licking the bones clean.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		I also stuck a drumstick to a spark.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Eat the gristle.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But I want to see if anyone can actually do it because no one here could.
		And we're going to put up a video for Boonies, the wing challenge.
		Brian tried, he had two weak wings down.
		He's like, I'm done.
		And then Shawn.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		He was looking mad, smack, too.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		That was the crap.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He looked like he was going to murder somebody as he was eating the wings because he was just like, and I was like, I think he might pull it off.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He's like, I'm done.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		And then Tate was literally crying and I was like, Yeah, I was on the floor crying surrounded by my colleagues.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		So I'm just challenging for moral support.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm challenging anybody.
		Go to Stucky's, beat the wing challenge, 150 bucks.
		I feel like someone out there can do it.
		And it's like an hour and a half from DC.
		So it's not super far away for those that live out here.
		And I want to see, film a video of it.
		We'll post it.
		We'll share it.
		We were talking about doing an event there where we get like 10 people to actually try to beat the wing challenge.
		And the dude there is super excited.
		He's like, let's go, man.
		He makes the sauce himself.
		I was impressed.
		He's like, he blended it up.
		We filmed him doing it.
		We were like, it's legit.
		And I had just regular barbecue wings because I'm a sane person.
		Mason says, there are two camps to the don't say naughty words millennials.
		One that went to college and were brainwashed, and the second that watched the unhinged degeneracy of that past decade and are saying, frick that.
		Yeah, that's true.
		I see what you're saying on that one.
		Makes sense.
		All right, let's grab some more and see what we got going on here.
		YouTube always give me the business.
		YouTube frozen again.
		YouTube likes to freeze.
		All right, let's go.
		All right.
		CEO Fat Girl says, I don't very much care for the basketball Americans.
		I don't know what that means.
		is that talking about the wnba no i'm i'm confused by that statement and i don't i don't care to uh elaborate any further moving on did you see the next uh super chat here is greg duvier says howard stern wanted to be respected by the elites and stopped caring about the everyday man but it's because the everydayday man was replaced by illegal immigrants who didn't speak Howard Stern's language.
		And he was like, Real?
		I don't want to be involved in that.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Real?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Imagine like 71 year old Howard Stern's like, I'm retiring from radio.
		And you're like, Oh, thank God.
		And he's like, I'm running for office.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Running in Zimbabwe.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		My last hope.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I do like that meme where it's like, Time to retire, Grandma.
		Where are we going?
		To Congress.
		And it's like the old woman in the in the wheelchair.
		Okay, let's see.
		Kieran the Meat Man says, Good Lord, guys.
		Calories in calories out is true, but poor nutrition makes you feel like ish and makes it much harder to cut calories in and work out.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		She just.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		my point.
		That's literally the point.
		When Neil deGrasse Tyson, who's fat and obese, says, all that matters is calories and calories out.
		I run into these people every day who are fat, and they're like, I don't understand why I can't lose weight.
		I'm cutting the calories, and I'm like, because your hormones are imbalanced, because you're not eating protein, and you're just eating less garbage, but you're still eating garbage.
		Like, you need proper nutrition and balance.
		We're going to get to the uncensored portion of the show, my friends, so...
		smash that like button share the show with everyone you know you can follow me on next instagram at timcast make sure you join the timcast discord at timcast.com if you would like to call into the show and tell us why i'm wrong about all this.
		You can, but you have to be a member.
		And we're also working on the Culture War Live shows.
		We did one pilot, then we did three back to back.
		The last one of this three-part series is Saturday.
		The ultimate goal is every single week.
		And the after party is going to be a member's only thing, which you can come to if you're a member of the Timcast Discord.
		So shout out to Roman Nation and the Timcast Discord crew who helped set up the first two.
		They did it on their own.
		We're working on the third and we'll see you there.
		Scott, you want to shout out something?
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		Just follow me on Twitter at Scott M. Greer.
		If you're actually, it's not Twitter, it's X. And if you have a sub stack, I'm at highlydashrespected.com and you can listen to all my great podcasts and read all my fantastic articles there.
		So thanks for having me on.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right on.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		You can find me on X and Instagram at Real Tape Brown.
		Maybe I'll have some updates on the wing situation.
		It may take a few days to percolate.
		So I don't know.
		Follow me there.
		We'll find out.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Bro, you're gonna wake up in the middle of the night.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You're gonna be like it is happening.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		It's gonna be.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It's some Metamucil.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We got him.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We got him two scoops of ice cream afterwards though.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		That was worth it.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		I faked it long enough to get some ice cream out.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Ice cream is pretty awesome.
unidentified		Yeah.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm just joking.
		I needed that.
		I was desperate.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Guys, if you want to follow me, I'm on Instagram and on X at Rhett Dasavik.
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		We will be off Thursday and Friday of this week.
		I'm going to apply for my marriage license.
		So we will be back on Monday.
		So you should tune in.
		In the meantime, you should watch the segments.
		We got them coming out all through the rest of the week and help the channel out that way.
		Thank you guys.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I am Phil.
		It remains on Twix.
		And the band is all it remains.
		You can follow the band on Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify, YouTube, and Deezer.
		Don't forget, the left lane is for crime.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We will see you all at rumble dot com slash Timcast IRL in about 30 seconds.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for hanging out.
unidentified		Yo, vaccines, they're gone.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I took them all.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So anyway, here's the story.
		Because you got to be careful on YouTube because they're fucking lunatics.
		But I was talking to my...
		And yeah, because, well, I got sick.
		And then you rub your eyes and it spreads to your eye.
		And sometimes it happens.
		And it's fine now.
		It's like, you know, but we had a baby.
		So my wife was like, go to urgent care now.
		And I was like, yeah, okay.
		I'm not going to argue.
		Whatever.
		But I can't work.
		I'm not going to come in.
		And they told me it exactly what I thought I was going to hear.
		Like, you're sick, you're coughing.
		And I'm like, yeah, okay.
		You probably rubbed your eyes while you were coughing or something.
		It got in your eye.
		You're probably going to be fine in a day or two.
		So we'll give you the eye drops anyway.
		And I was like, I know.
		It's just because we have a baby and my wife's scared.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		And it's, you know, it's worth the effort, you know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So I was fine this morning.
		My voice is back.
		I feel good.
		It can work and all that stuff.
		And then, but when I was there, I was like, I got a question, Doc, about this RFK stuff that the thimerosol and the vaccines.
		And he was just like, you know, honestly, I'm not entirely sure.
		And I'm like, but you're the doctor.
		I was like, with vaccines being changed like rfk jr is saying many of them are not safe i merosol is actually bad and it's in flu i think it's in in the flu shots and he was like i don't know he's like i gotta be honest i was like the question right now is do we trust the government of today or yesterday yeah because the previous administration says vaccines are fine take them all and now rfk jr is hs and he's saying no it's not and they're gonna argue he's a conspiracy theorist but that's stupid because they they argued before but the government said so and
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		now the government said so and they're saying no so what the what do you do what do you do that's the uh the problem that you know sarah and i are looking out because we're not sure what vaccines we should be giving to our kid when he's born.
		We're like, we don't want this one because there's no reason for a baby to get that vaccine.
		But what about these?
		And can we stretch the stuff out?
		And we have to look at the list of doctors and find out which doctors will actually not give us a ton of crap.
		Oh, that's good, that's nice.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The bolts have fallen off the chair?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Two of them.
		It's time for a new chair, Tim.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is a new chair.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Oh.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Isn't that the old?
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		How long was that one in service?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That one broke too.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but how long was it in service?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know, man.
		These chairs break like crazy.
		You know what it is?
		It's like I do the morning show and the night show, so it's a lot of sets.
unidentified		When they come, you have a bolt as well.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		It might be from there, it might be from here.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		It was on the table.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		When they when they show up, do they show up?
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		It's a full amount of money.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Do they have to be built or they come built?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think they're I think they're partially built.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Partially, yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		When you I feel bad for Boston, like they don't sponsor us or anything.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We just bought the chairs off Amazon, but maybe we need to get a real chair sponsor.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		When you get them, actually, get Blue Loctite and all the screws and stuff, put Blue Loctite on it.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		I feel like Ray.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's just get bar stools.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That would be kind of sick.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Your back.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		Although that would be weird to be like, yeah, bar stool.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You'd be in so much pain by getting it like, oh.
unidentified		on their computer like this yeah that was awesome i don't think the old people would come on here or anyone over the age of 40 would appreciate the bar stool set up you know bring the things old people bring to the bleachers where it has like the cloth back on it that you can set up they'd be bringing their backs would be destroyed they'll like yeah you know something we should do we should uh we're talking to this dude about coming and working weekends because uh we have only like one or two people here on the weekends But they're not doing media stuff.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They're doing like local.
		They're doing like administrative building stuff.
		But I think it'd be cool if we did like a members only live stream.
		Well, I'll talk to this guy.
		I don't want to say anything yet because we haven't hired anyone.
		But it's just like while you're here over the weekend, just go live while you're doing your job.
		No, but for real, because Yeah, yeah.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		We did that one day with the video games.
		Sorry, we did that one day with the video games.
		That was a hit.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But like, we have a guy here who's basically just reading the news.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He could just go live and hang out with the Discord members.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then just be like, here's what we're looking at.
		Here's the news that we're doing it.
		And I feel kind of bad because he'll be here alone, mostly.
		Just like watching TV.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		He looks like schizophrenic.
unidentified		What if I lie.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Julian Assange when he comes in.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		When did you play video games with the audience?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It was right before the fourth, right?
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it was the day before the fourth because we were like, there's no news.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Nobody's paying attention to YouTube.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		So you were just like, we'll just stream this.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's play Zelda.
		And then I started playing Tears of the Kingdom for the first time.
		And the opening tutorial for that is the most miserable experience of any video game I've ever played.
		But the game is pretty awesome after the fact.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Talk about fucking awful.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		All video games, like, suck now.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, I did the Message Not Found glitch on Zelda because fuck them.
		It's awesome, by the way.
		So they launched with the Switch 2.
		you can, in South of Tears of the Kingdom, you can build anything you want out of the parts they give you and uh there are these crazy videos from back when the game first came out of people building fucking crazy shit tanks.
		And now they created this thing where you can make a QR code and share the build with other games, which has just unleashed all hell.
		So people figured out how to inject code into the game using the QR system.
		And so what happened was in the prologue of the game, your Link and he's got all this badass gear and the sword he has cannot be broken.
		In the game, your weapons break because weapons break.
		So someone found a way to inject the code to make it so that in the normal gameplay, you have an unbreakable sword and you can attach creation to it, making it super powerful and never losing it.
		And so that's just like the first thing people have done to inject code code, but I bet they can do tons of other fucked up shit.
		Yeah.
		I hope they don't patch it.
		The coolest thing about games is whenever they let you hack them.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So Nintendo should be like, oh, you figured out how to inject code into the game.
		Have fun.
		Don't give a shit.
		That's what you avoided your guarantee, but by all means do whatever the fuck you want.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Like in Halo 2, when you like the whole BXR thing where you could use the BR to, you could do a hit and then shoot them one time and it'd be like an instant kill.
		That was a glitch.
		In Halo 2, that was a big deal and everybody loved it.
		And like nowadays, that's the kind of stuff that they would take out and piss people off.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Street Fighter.
		In this, in Street Fighter 2, when they released the game, they made a mistake.
		If you entered in moves back to back, they would string together in such a way that your opponent could not react to it.
		They couldn't block.
		They were called combos and it was a glitch.
		You were supposed to be able to do a move, then block, then do a move, and they were like, oh shit.
		So for instance, Ryu, I love doing the basic combo of jump attack, fierce kick, right when you land, Haduken, Shoryuken.
		And there's no point at which your opponent can do anything about that attack.
		It was a glitch.
		It was a bug.
		They called it a feature.
		They said, actual, it's a skill move.
		And if you can get good at it, you'llre good at it, you'll be better at the game.
		If that came out today, they'd patch it out and say sorry about that.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They'd eliminate the most popular function of the game.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Especially if it was Nintendo.
		Nintendo just hates anything, like anything that's even mildly, what's the word?
		Like, I guess, intuitive.
		They hate all that stuff.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Don't update your switches and your Zelda's and all that nonsense.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		Helicopter parenting even ruined video games.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		I know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It did, man.
		Bro, the original World of Warcraft, the most fun thing ever.
		We call it glitch hopping.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		No.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is fucking twenty years ago.
		This guy was four when we were doing this.
		Isn't that crazy?
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		That's bad.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And so.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		My fault.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There were various parts of the map that were inaccessible, but you could jump in a way that would glitch your character up higher and higher.
		And so there were a whole bunch of places you could go you weren't supposed to go.
		And they'd threaten you with a ban if they figured out you were going there, but no one I ever knew got banned or suspended for it.
		Then they were like, we're going to introduce flying to the game, which ruined the game.
		Flying ruined the fucking game.
		They should have never introduced flying.
		And then they...
		Fucking killed the game.
		Dude, it was crazy.
		I'd play that game for hours.
		It's probably good they did because that game's addictive.
		And my friends are like, you're on, we would use TeamSpeak.
		What did we use?
		I think we used TeamSpeak.
		What was the other one?
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		I don't remember.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There was the other one.
		There was something else.
		And my friends would be like, yo, where are you at right now?
		I'd be like, bro, I have no fucking idea.
		And they'd be like, I'm looking at you on the map.
		You're like, where the fuck are you, dude?
		And I'd be like, I just jumped and jumped and jumped until I got into this weird continent.
		And it was fun.
		The area would just be flat with nothing in it.
		We'd be running around, goofing off.
		And then they'd be like, we're going to get rid of that.
		The best thing was if you were playing Hoard and you knew how to get underneath Stormwind, there was a part of the city where you could jump up and then fall through the wall.
		And you'd be underneath the city yelling.
		And then all the people in the city would be like, what the fuck?
		There's Hoard in here.
		Oh my God.
		And then Blizzard was like, mm, they're having fun.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		get rid of it that's dumb yep fuck them there's a lot of stuff where like if there's a glitch and the fans like it you should leave it oblivion made its name known for its hilarious glitches with the npcs and stuff oblivion was filled with it kind of you know early 2000s mid 2000s as they're trying to make more advanced games there's so many glitches but they made so many memes and now they're taking it away it's too clean cut too cookie radical left i
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		just like to uh to uh to stress you know for these for these naysayers back in the og vanilla warcraft i had uh tier 2 pvp gear it was fucking insane to get.
		It was it was just insane.
		Originally to get the field field marshal gear, you had to actually be one of the top ranking PvP players in your what do we call it?
		It was like a server quadrant or something because only some servers played against some servers.
		Yo, I would play Alteric Valley nonstop.
		You know, I love, oh man.
		I bet I could do this today.
		So I play Rogue.
		Rogue is the best, but I had a bunch of characters.
		We call them toons and I had a bunch of level 60s.
		I like two or three.
		I had a priest.
		I had what did I have?
		I think a mage maybe.
		I can't remember.
		Yeah, I think it was a mage and a rogue, but rogue was my main.
		And you go in Alter Egg Valley and I would always just solo cap towers.
		It was fucking so much fun to just sneak into the tower with all the dudes standing there and then I would just back cap the tower and then they would lose time and it would contribute to the win and it was fun as fuck.
		And then I remember I went back to play Legion when it came out, which is now like what, ten years ago?
		And I was like, I wonder if it's still the same after all these years, you know, ten years later.
		And then sure enough, same fucking shit.
		I loved it.
		I was like, I'm gonna sneak around with my rogue and I'm gonna and then I unlock Void Elf.
		so I could use it teleport.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Wade Elf?
		I never played a lot.
		I I only played like a little bit of wow.
		Like I didn't get very far at all.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They made a, oh, I fucking loved it, dude.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		People were so bad at the fucking game in 2006.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		They were like, you need to nerf rogues.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You're too, oh no, no, no.
		I'm sorry.
		Nerf warriors.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		They were like, rogues are too weak.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You can't kill warriors.
		And I was like, bro, if you're not bleeding, you're warriors.
		You don't know what the fuck you're doing.
		And so for me, I had no problem in com in PvP against warriors.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		We're usually with the rogues.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but if you're PvP, the problem was straight DPS from a rogue wasn't doing any damage because our armor, so you had to do bleeds, stun, bleed, stun, bleed.
		And Garat, bleed, you know, hemorrhage, all that shit.
		And then, but players were too stupid to learn the skills to play the game.
		So they complained and they're like, okay, we're going to buff rogues because they're too weak.
		And I'm like, I'm already fucking wiping everybody out in PvP.
		And then they made me stronger, but it's okay now.
		They've dumbed the game down to the point that where it's stupid as fuck.
		Raids used to mean something.
		I remember my my first raid and I think it was like AQ and it was it was crazy to have 40 people playing one game where like this is nuts.
		Now it's like sign up for the Q and get placed with random people and it's like you win in five seconds no matter what.
		You don't even have to do anything.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		People get pissed if they don't like if it's too much of a challenge, which is bad.
		You know, it's like, I mean, those those same people, if you put them, put them like, give them like Mega Man 3, they kill themselves.
		Because that was like one of the hardest video games.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Mega Man 1.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Mega Man 1 was.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		How could that be considered a game for children?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Mega Man 3 was okay.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Was it was it 3 that was okay?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, so one was fucking nuts, two was crazy, three was wow, four was this is a good game.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's not so, you know, five and six were just like, wow, this is a lot of fun.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Okay, not bad.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Mega Man 1 is fucking put your balls in a vice.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Super hard to finish.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Insane.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Kid Icarus is also fucking ridiculous.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No one ever beat that game.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		What is it?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's a video game.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It was on.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It was on.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		From an ancient time period.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		From the Middle Ages for you.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		I only played like Minecraft and like 2K.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's kind of sad for Gen Z because you have two games.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		We have Minecraft and Fortnite.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Prime Fortnite, I'm going to tell my kids about.
unidentified		No.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		You had to be there.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, Fortnite just stole the format.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, from PUBG.
		PUBG.
		And they made it better.
		Well, Double Pump and PUBG.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Wasn't Fortnite supposed to be like a more advanced Minecraft?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then PUBG happened and they were like, let's just rip off Bell.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they had like a story mode that had no fighting in it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And you build houses.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Rocket League's good.
		Me and Kellen play Rocket League a lot.
unidentified		Yeah.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		We're really good at it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's crazy how we had like hundreds of games and it was crazy.
		like snake rattling roll remember Bro, Skull and Crossbones, dude.
		That game was fucking weird.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I need to get a PC.
unidentified		A game.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Bro, I'm going to play a video of this fucking game.
		Look at this game.
		Skull and Crossbones.
		Look at this shit.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		What the?
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		This is real culture.
scott greer ▲ ● ▼		You missed out.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Look at this little pirate guy and he's throwing knives.
@cornshaq ▲ ● ▼		We're slowly making our way through the castle-like area.
		out every enemy that we come across.
		Once we've wiped out the 15, Who is the wizard?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What is this?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I remember how weird it was, like, what are these little symbols even?
@cornshaq ▲ ● ▼		As we drop down on the right side here where that arrow is, the wizard is there and shoves us away, kidnapping the princess.
		And now we are able to select from one of six levels, with the seventh level being the final one that we'll do after we've completed the game.
		You can do them in any order, but usually I just do them straight in the cross.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Like, a little Donkey Kong for you.
@cornshaq ▲ ● ▼		In each of the main levels, you have to defeat 15 enemies, whether they're the same pirate soldier guys, remake it or whatever, or if they're just common pest, what?
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		NBA Street.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This was the peak of American culture right here, dude.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		That was my NBA Street.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		All those things flying around to kill you.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		That was PS2 era.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I grew up on the PlayStation era.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You just did a flip.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		I played Tomb Raider, but yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right, let's go to callers.
		Let's go to callers.
		Hey, Cronors, what's going on?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		What's up, Cronors?
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		What up?
unidentified		Hey, good evening, everybody.
unidentified		How's it going?
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Good evening.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Well.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		How are you?

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