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GOP Councilman DOUSED IN GAS, Set ON FIRE In Virginia, Suspect In Custody | Timcast IRL
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tim pool
A Virginia GOP councilman was doused with gasoline and set on fire.
It does not appear to be political.
Everybody's speculating as to what happened, but it is a terrifying story because this guy was a politician.
However, rumors are circulating, so we'll look into what the rumors may be.
We don't know a whole lot right now, but it is a horrifying story.
And, you know, I hope for the quick recovery of this man.
It's terrifying.
He apparently was doused.
He tried fling.
The guy went after him.
It is an absolutely crazy story.
It's kicking off.
So we will address this as this is the top trending story.
And I wanted to make sure we stress this is not a political, it does not appear to be politically motivated or anything like that.
And of course, a lot of people, that's where they immediately jump to.
And everyone says, I bet Tim is.
No, no, no.
We're jumping on the story to say it does not appear to be.
So we'll talk about that.
Plus, we got other news, my friends.
Cash Patel found a bunch of Russian gate documents in burn bags.
Yeah, in a secret room hidden away.
And this is not the first time Donald Trump is likening this to treason, once again, posting memes suggesting that Obama, Hillary, and many others should be in prison.
We got a bunch of other stories.
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You know, joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Terrence Pop.
terrence popp
How you doing?
tim pool
I'm doing great.
unidentified
What about you?
terrence popp
Well, it was an interesting flight out here.
tim pool
Oh, why is that?
terrence popp
Well, as soon as you get on the aircraft, you know you're going to be one to three babies crying.
You're breathing other people's butt gases and stank breaths and I would say some sick cooter juice.
And I had a guy sit next to me pretty good.
But in front of me, there was a woman that stank just wafted.
There was something wrong with one of her organs because it was malfunctioning.
tim pool
I imagine something related to the intestinal tract.
terrence popp
It was terrible.
All you can do.
tim pool
Well, thanks for letting us know and bringing us back to that place.
Who are you?
terrence popp
What do you do?
Well, I'm retired military.
I did 33 years in the service, 21 active, the Rest Guard reserve time.
And now I just do comedy to stop suicide.
tim pool
Right on.
unidentified
Cool.
tim pool
Well, thanks for hanging out.
terrence popp
No problem.
tim pool
We got Producer Tate.
tate brown
What's up, everyone?
I have functional organs.
Thankfully, so everyone at the table should be good.
Producer Tate, Tate Brown, glad to be here.
tim pool
Brett's hanging out.
brett dasovic
What's going on, guys?
Pop Culture Crisis Monday through Friday, 3 p.m. Eastern Standard Time.
I actually experienced the first time in my life where a baby was crying the entire flight, like last year.
I've had very good luck with flights most of my life.
tim pool
It doesn't really bother me all that much.
Do you have kids?
terrence popp
I do have two daughters who are adults now.
tim pool
I've never really been bothered by babies crying or anything like that.
brett dasovic
I send my headphones in most of the time anyway, so I don't even notice it when I'm on the plane.
tim pool
That's just me.
I don't know.
I understand a lot of people.
They don't like it.
terrence popp
The thing that really bothers me is these babies will cry for the entire flight, and towards the end, they go to sleep.
tim pool
You know what it is?
terrence popp
I'm not having it.
I'll be like, wake up.
tim pool
Because I learned this because I just had a kid.
Their ears are popping.
And they don't know how to equalize the pressure, so they're crying.
And parents are supposed to give them something to chew on or swallow or like depending on how old they are.
Or they say, if it's a young baby, you breastfeed as you're taking off and as you're landing.
But there are a lot of parents that just don't.
And so the kid's ears are in intense pain the whole time.
phil labonte
I was going to say a boob in its mouth.
tim pool
Indeed, indeed.
Phil is here.
phil labonte
Hello, everybody.
My name is Phil Labonte.
I'm the lead singer of the Heavy Metal Band of All That Remains.
I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary.
Let's get into it.
tim pool
Here's a story from Newsweek.
Ladies and gentlemen, Virginia politician doused in gasoline, then set on fire.
This is a horrifying story.
Danville City Councilman Lee Vogler, 38, was set on fire Wednesday in what police say was a targeted personal attack at his workplace, Showcase magazine.
According to a press release from the Danville Police Department, officers responded around 11.30 a.m. to the Main Street office after a man later identified as Vogler was doused with a flammable liquid and ignited outside his workplace.
He was airlifted to a regional hospital, and the extent of his injuries is unknown.
The suspect, Shotzi Michael Buck Hayes, 29 of Danville, fled the scene but was arrested without incident nearby.
Police said the assault stemmed from a personal matter and was not politically motivated.
Quote, based on the investigation at the time of this release, the victim and the suspect are known to each other, and the attack stems from a personal matter not related to the victim's position on Danville City Council or any other political affiliation, DPD said in a statement.
Later Wednesday, Hayes was charged with attempted first-degree murder and aggravated malicious wounding.
According to ABC 13 in Virginia, he's being held in Danville City jail without bond.
Setting somebody on fire is a whole other level.
That is not just trying to end somebody.
That is trying to make them, that's trying to torture them.
terrence popp
It's a statement.
tim pool
Yeah.
terrence popp
Now, if his burns are over 60%, his chance of survival is relatively low.
tim pool
Yep.
Now, the rumor is it's over a lady.
phil labonte
Oh, really?
tim pool
I don't know if this is true because they're saying it's a personal matter.
Obviously, the story breaks, and I'm on X like I always am 24-7, and I immediately see breaking, and I'm like, holy crap.
They say it's a personal matter, and everyone immediately was like, a Republican councilman was just doused because that's a statement like you were saying.
You know what I mean?
terrence popp
Well, you got to go to a really dark place to want to set somebody on fire.
When you set someone on fire, your main goal is to make them suffer and then die.
It is horrible.
And I've seen stuff like that happen in Iraq when I was there in 04.
I was a guy who showed up and had to take pictures and write reports and stuff.
And dudes are frozen in place, carbonized.
They've been burned so bad.
Wow.
It is brutal.
tim pool
Is this just, you know, we see these stories and they freak us out.
Is it just that social media makes it easy?
And these things have happened and we've had serial killers and murderers forever?
terrence popp
Oh, no, no.
People have been killing each other forever.
I mean, just professional.
brett dasovic
There needs to be more skits made of what it was like in past decades when everything was going wrong, except they didn't have social media at that time to pay attention to every awful thing that was going on in every other country of the world as well.
terrence popp
Yeah, we used to have a thing called dueling.
You should bring back dueling.
That way you don't have things like this.
Like if this is over a woman and you would bring back dueling, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
terrence popp
You just send them a formal invitation and then it's enforced by law.
Hey, you've been called out to a duel and then handle your business.
phil labonte
Would you want the duel to be like pistols at dawn or would it be like sidearm and you got to draw swords?
terrence popp
Okay.
Well, here's the thing.
You could sell the video rights and have whole industry about it.
There you go.
brett dasovic
Aren't they still allowed to do this in Texas?
They're allowed to like formally challenge someone to a fight?
terrence popp
I'm not sure.
I'm not up to speed on Texas law.
brett dasovic
Yeah.
tate brown
I think the thing about this, like these kinds of stories that's so freaky is how this happens, it hits the news, and then within like 30 minutes, people on Twitter have already discovered the root.
Because they posted that the shotzi, the guy that attacked, he had gotten a divorce like two weeks prior.
And then they found out the guy that got lit on fire had multiple pictures with his now ex-wife.
And so people are like putting this all together, but it's all rumors.
And it's like, I don't know if it's good that the public has inside knowledge on these sorts of events every single time they happen.
phil labonte
No, and look, I mean, it's never a good idea to try to kill the person that your ex has decided they want to be with because you ain't getting her back that way either.
Like she's just going to be like, oh, you killed him now.
I realize how much of a mistake it was.
tim pool
It's in almost every circumstance, deciding to go kill someone over personal and civil issues is always, always a bad idea.
phil labonte
It's terrible.
tim pool
Terrible.
As to the dueling thing, you know, I was reading on this, like, why dueling ended because it used to be fairly common practice.
I was reading about Burr and Hamilton.
And I'm thinking to myself, like, who's crazy enough to be like, you've dishonored me.
Let's one of us die.
It seems like, bro, roll it off your back, man.
Live.
But the truth is, duels were mostly for honor.
And so the intent was you'd go pistols at dawn.
You'd take, you know, 15 paces, turn around, and intentionally miss.
terrence popp
Yes, that happened more often than not.
That's how it went down.
tim pool
The point was, I will defend my honor with my life, but let's not kill each other.
Except when it came to Burr and Hamilton, Burr was like, and apparently Hamilton was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, bang.
And he was like, nah.
And so what happens is, you're never going to guess.
You know why dueling ended?
Because of the woke young people.
phil labonte
Oh, really?
tim pool
The younger generation was progressive and said, this is barbaric and shouldn't be allowed.
And they said, we're offended, ban this practice.
phil labonte
It was laying the seeds of feminism.
I bet it was woke.
terrence popp
Can you imagine how polite everyone would become if dueling was.
tim pool
But it was, but it's optional.
Like someone challenges you to duel, you say, nah.
You know what I mean?
terrence popp
I get it.
I get it.
brett dasovic
So they were like hashtag end dueling back then?
unidentified
Yeah.
brett dasovic
Okay.
phil labonte
And then they wrote it out on paper and stuck it on the church.
tim pool
I'm like, because this is, this is what, like late 1700s, early 1800s, they had dueling.
And then young people were just like, we shouldn't allow this barbaric.
I got to be honest.
I do question that.
The ending of dueling.
terrence popp
I believe Abraham Lincoln was challenged to a couple duels as well.
I don't know the details, but.
tim pool
I guess the issue is right now, here's my frame of like my thinking.
Yeah, dueling, I think, is bad.
However, in Canada, they're pushing medical assistance and dying.
So it's coming full circle where it's like, look, you're making the argument that if people consent, they're allowed to end their lives.
Even like in the Netherlands, they had this 26-year-old woman who was depressed.
And they were like, all right, put her in the box and release the gas.
Well, then why can't people duel?
terrence popp
Yeah.
tim pool
If that's where you want to go with it.
brett dasovic
Somebody else will catch a stray bullet.
terrence popp
Well, no.
tim pool
Yeah, but okay, you could do it, but no guns.
Fists and hands only.
terrence popp
Fists and hands?
I would prefer sword and axes.
tim pool
Mutual combat is a thing in a lot of places.
Oh, yeah.
If two people agree to fight, the cops are like, oh, just don't break stuff.
brett dasovic
Make them sign up for this slapping contest.
terrence popp
The mutual combat, as long as they're both on their feet, once one guy gets knocked down and you continue to beat on him, then that is a whole other animal.
tate brown
Just jousting and dirt bikes would solve.
phil labonte
Can you imagine getting hit, even if you had a shield?
Can you imagine getting hit in a shield at 60 miles an hour?
tate brown
Or even worse.
phil labonte
120 miles an hour.
tate brown
You're chilling in your house and you hear...
tim pool
Oh!
Like, what were the horses running?
20 or 30?
terrence popp
I imagine between 20 and 30.
tim pool
And they wear armor and the joust would shatter, right?
Or they would just knock them off.
terrence popp
The jousts that you watch where the lance comes apart like that is done so on purpose for demonstration purposes.
tim pool
But they actually just stabbed them?
terrence popp
Actual war lances would literally go through your armor.
tim pool
Well, yeah, yeah, but like the show jousts.
terrence popp
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
When they knock you off, they weren't trying to stab you.
Were those a competitive?
terrence popp
It's competitive, yeah.
tim pool
So they would just knock you off your horse.
terrence popp
Or knock your weapon out of your hand.
unidentified
Yeah.
terrence popp
And there's a different, there's a crazy point system for that.
I don't really know it off the back of my hand.
brett dasovic
I think this story is an interesting thing to think about.
When you think about politics all day long, your mind immediately goes to it being some type of politically motivated attack.
You forget that we live in a world full of insane people that do insane things all the time for very, very personal reasons.
And it's not a good thing, but it is a reminder that there's a world outside of just political discourse where bad things happen to people for a myriad of reasons, not just because of their political.
tim pool
I got to read this.
Check this out.
In Seattle, they have an ordinance, Seattle Municipal Code 12A06025.
Keep in mind, AI is always wrong.
But it says that so long as both parties consent willingly, no weapons are involved, no bystanders or property is damaged, and a police officer is present to referee and break up the fight when a clear winner emerges, you're allowed to fight in public.
brett dasovic
See, if somebody's like, Ken Griffey Jr. is not the greatest hitter of all time, somebody else is like, at noon inside your house, let's go.
tim pool
And it's like, call an officer, have him come watch.
Do you think the cops are going to be like, cool?
unidentified
They sign up for the, I got dual duty.
phil labonte
If it's male cops, yes.
unidentified
If it's female cops, they're not going to be like, I don't want they have side bets, probably.
tate brown
Of course, didn't me?
unidentified
What were you saying?
tim pool
Yeah, right.
They send one patrol units, two guys, and they're like, all right, I got the guy on the left.
I'll take that bet.
terrence popp
What you see going on here is obviously somebody lost the argument to the little head because it's not really big.
There's not a lot of computing power there, and there's a hole in the end where all the bad decisions come out.
I can guarantee you, if this is over a woman, that is what took place.
tim pool
And the dude's in his late 20s.
terrence popp
Yeah, that's ridiculous.
tim pool
Throw it all away for what, dude?
That's crazy.
terrence popp
Listen.
tim pool
It's crazy.
terrence popp
The vagina's not worth it.
phil labonte
No.
terrence popp
The vagina is not worth it.
Pay attention.
All right.
tim pool
You know, I was reading this that historically only 40% of men ever reproduced.
terrence popp
Yes.
tim pool
Guys were crazy.
terrence popp
You want to talk about super expendable back in the day?
unidentified
Yeah.
terrence popp
That was you.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Unless you were smart enough to not be.
Yep.
Or big enough.
terrence popp
Or lucky.
tim pool
Yeah, we're lucky.
terrence popp
Because back in the day, the king would roll in and like, all right, he's in the army, he's in the army, and then they would move on to build their infantry corps.
If you were out picking turnips and you didn't get spotted, then you're good.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, that's actually an interesting thing why the name Smith is so common.
terrence popp
Yes.
tim pool
The Smiths would never get sent to war, and when a country lost a battle, the Smiths were never executed.
They were always taken to make weapons.
phil labonte
Being useful is extremely...
unidentified
Right.
terrence popp
Because they made all of your locks, your tools, the hinges for your door, nails.
You don't have a guy that can do that in the area, and I guess you're screwed up.
tim pool
Imagine that first guy who walked up to the king and he was like, check this out.
And he put like horse hair on a stick and he was like, bong.
And it like went flying.
unidentified
And the king was like, my God, we will be gods among men.
terrence popp
I want a thousand of those.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And then Genghis Khan was like, what if we did this while riding horses?
And then everybody was like, this power is too much for us.
We can't comprehend how to fight this.
He conquered all of Asia.
tate brown
No one figured out the horse and arrow combo for like 100 years.
And Genghis Khan is just like exploiting it all over the world.
terrence popp
And he was so good at it.
Yeah.
And he killed so many people.
He actually reduced the carbon footprint of the planet.
tim pool
He also made a lot of people.
terrence popp
Oh, yes, he did.
Yes, he did.
tim pool
That guy's crazy.
All right, let's get serious and jump to this next story.
We got this one from the New York Post.
FBI chief Cash Patel finds burn bags of Trump-Russia documents in secret room.
Secret room.
brett dasovic
Does that mean it was like behind us, like a bookcase?
tim pool
So what they said was there was a filing cabinet when you slide it aside.
There was a little door that when they opened it and crawled through it, they went into John Malkovich's head where they found the documents.
brett dasovic
I mean, that's kind of awesome.
phil labonte
It's actually, it's a bookcase, and you have to pull out Obama's Dreams for My Father.
That's how you get it.
terrence popp
These documents are probably found in, it's called a skiff.
I've actually used a different story.
phil labonte
Oh, yeah.
terrence popp
It was a skiff.
And it was my job to dispose of the burn bags.
you usually did it like once every six to eight weeks, but there's a whole procedure you have to go through to do that.
You have to have witnesses, you got to fill out all kinds of crap.
And obviously, human beings are lazy.
The guy's like, I'll do it next week.
I'll do it next.
Next thing you know, he gets reassigned or fired, and they're still there.
tim pool
Could you imagine like Obama sitting in his house reading a book, and then he turned, he opens a web browser and he sees Cash Patel finds bags of Russia Gate documents, and it all is going to get unraveled because some lazy, low-level guy was like, I'll get to it.
terrence popp
But that's how it works.
tim pool
Uh-huh.
terrence popp
I mean, when I was in the Army, I can't tell you many times.
I'd be like, hey, did you do that?
Oh, no, no, no, no.
We're not putting it on.
It needs to happen now.
tim pool
Let me tell you a story.
Let me tell you a story.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
So we had AC problems.
The AC, we had a portable unit.
You might be able to hear in the background.
And because of this heat dome, it was like 90-something.
So what happens is the AC is not working.
So I tell my wife, who handles all the administrative stuff, I'm like Allison, hey, the AC is out.
Can you call the guys?
And then she reaches out to one of our guys and says, can you check on the AC and make sure it's working properly?
Who comes in, checks it all and says, looks good, and then walks out.
And so the issue is not that anybody did anything wrong.
It's that as soon as you jump A few steps, the specificity of the problem has been lost.
So the original problem was the AC is low and not working properly, turns into the AC is off, turns into, nope, it's on, we got it running.
And then, of course, the problem persists.
So I experienced this non-stop 24-7.
It's the game of telephone.
Imagine you're Obama and you're like, this evidence needs to be destroyed quickly.
And then they go to a guy and they're like, destroy this evidence of Russia again.
He goes, I got it.
Then he turns around.
Hey, you, destroy this.
And he turns around to a guy and he goes, all right, I'll put it right here.
I'll get at the end of work.
And then the end of the day comes by, gets a text from that girl he's dating.
He's like, oh man, I got to go.
Runs out, leaves the bag there.
brett dasovic
It's because if it's in a movie, the supervillain always has like a number two who makes sure that everything gets done.
He needs the number two to go and make sure that he has to follow them to make sure that the bag actually gets burned.
terrence popp
And I'm waiting for the CD or DVD or thumb drive of the contents of Hillary Clinton's secret server.
tim pool
Does it exist?
terrence popp
Listen, I can't tell you how many times I was working in the skiff and I would see a CD laying out and I'd pop it in there and, oh, it's top secret information.
We have to destroy this immediately.
It happens.
It happens.
phil labonte
Well, I would love to.
I share the exact same sentiment.
I would love to see any kind of product that would help to implicate Hillary Clinton.
terrence popp
Unfortunately, you see some accountability.
tim pool
Do you think, so one of the theories is that her private server was used to facilitate monetary exchange for public policy?
terrence popp
You're talking about the woman who gave the Russians a bunch of uranium.
I mean, there's all kinds of stuff going on.
tim pool
Who was the Clinton Foundation, I think, right?
phil labonte
Yeah, most people don't even, you know, that doesn't even register with them, the fact that she literally gave them access to tons of uranium, literally tons of uranium, you know.
terrence popp
They need more of that.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, yeah, they have uranium they can mine.
And now, obviously, the uranium they mine, they have to enrich.
But why on earth would the United States give them enriched uranium?
tim pool
Take a look at this from Axios.
2021, Clinton Foundation donations plummet 75%.
They say in 2021, they plummeted to 16 million last year, down 75% from the organization's peak when Hillary Clinton was running for president.
Interesting.
phil labonte
It was, I mean, it was so obviously a slush fund.
If you gave a big check to the Clinton Foundation, you could get a phone call with Hillary Clinton, and people were betting on her winning.
So it was, you put money into my piggy bank, and then you can get a phone call with the president, the first president of the United States.
terrence popp
I'll go a little bit farther.
phil labonte
Please do.
terrence popp
USAID.
phil labonte
Yeah.
terrence popp
Probably donated a lot of money because the rumor is the Democrats are going bankrupt because the USID money has been cut off at the knees.
tim pool
Well, you see, the DNC is broke, and the Republicans have a lot Of money.
I forgot the numbers, but it was something like single-digit millions.
And this is exactly what was predicted with USAID: that these prominent NGOs were getting money was being phoned to NGOs who paid lawyers who then contribute to these campaigns and political action committees.
brett dasovic
USAID gets cut off at the head, and now there's burn bag documents being found in secret rooms.
tim pool
Yo, let me give you this.
This is according to, the source here is Wikipedia, whatever.
2010, Clinton Foundation, 313 million.
2011, 253.
2012, 134.
2013, 294 million.
2014, 338 million.
2015, 298 million.
2016, 224 million.
2017, 56 million.
2018, 20 million.
2021, 16 million.
terrence popp
USID.
tim pool
And so, no, no, I don't think this was USAID.
terrence popp
You don't think so?
tim pool
Well, I'll put it this way.
I don't know for sure.
And who am I to accuse Hillary Clinton of wrongdoing?
But the theory is her private server was the means by which she communicated with foreign dignitaries.
Basically, I'm Secretary of State.
We will drive foreign policy when you contribute to my foundation.
And the reason why, when Congress was like, hey, give us that private server, she was like, I'll just illegally destroy it.
And then did.
The theory goes, is that she was trying to cover up all those communications.
And then once she lost the presidential election, all that money dried up.
And then, my friends, the Russiagate narrative and the reason why Obama and his cronies and Clinton wanted to frame Donald Trump was because those IOUs come due.
And when people put in hundreds of millions of dollars expecting you to win a presidency, you do not win, and then you cannot enact foreign policy as they want it to, someone's going to come with a crowbar for them kneecaps.
terrence popp
Oh, yeah.
Also, I would like to find out about this, all the people in the area around the Clintons who died by self-deletion.
When you look at the numbers, I mean, that is, I'm sorry, it's unbelievable.
phil labonte
You know, you have to be a terrible person to have that many friends decide that they want to end their own lives.
terrence popp
Correct.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
Well, it's like not even friends.
It's like, oh, you remember that guy that like scratched my car last week?
Yeah, he shot himself.
phil labonte
I met Hillary Clinton.
Now my life is so terrible.
I can't help but just, I got to end it.
brett dasovic
Sometimes hitting themselves twice.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I just want to point out that there was at the time of the 2016 election a meme that I believe this is when it began that regular people who are non-political were sharing.
And it was anytime a company went bankrupt, anytime a show got canceled, anytime a car crashed, someone would make a Twitter post from the object saying, I have information that will lead to the arrest and prosecution of Hillary Clinton.
And everyone's like, oh, whoa.
It was the theory that the Clintons were killing people was so common.
Regular random people who did not get involved in politics were making jokes that like, you know, oh, my favorite show got canceled.
And then they would post a fake post from the, you know, the TV show saying, I have information that will lead to the arrest of Hillary Clinton.
terrence popp
Yep.
tate brown
Well, it's so funny watching the media like try to debunk it because there's like 500 people on the list.
It's like, you could maybe get like 10.
It's like hundreds of people.
terrence popp
When you look at some of the ways that these people died, you're like, why do you call this a suicide?
phil labonte
Yeah.
tate brown
It's like a piano dropped on him and then it's like, what's going on?
terrence popp
You know, shot in the back of the head.
brett dasovic
Twice in the back.
That's what I say.
Like twice.
terrence popp
They need to pull that dude's medical license.
That is insane.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, the dangerous part is if you pull the medical license, you might shoot yourself in the head twice.
terrence popp
I mean, yeah, or you could fall down some stairs.
phil labonte
Something like crazy.
tate brown
I was going to testify and then an anvil dropped on them.
It's an acme on the side.
unidentified
It's so wild.
terrence popp
Yeah, but when you look at the number that have passed away that had any kind of from self-deletion, you have a better chance of breaking your leg, throwing yourself down the stairs and having it set itself by, you know.
tim pool
This is when everything went wrong.
Do you guys remember this one?
phil labonte
Yeah, throwback.
Harambe.
tim pool
Listen, kid, I don't have much time.
I have information that will indict Hillary Clinton.
tate brown
Oh, it's tripped down memory lane.
tim pool
Some people say that when Harambe died, it's when everything went insane.
tate brown
It's true.
He held it together.
phil labonte
What year was it 2016?
tim pool
Was it 2016?
I'm pretty sure, yeah.
phil labonte
It was either 2012.
tim pool
Do you believe it was that long ago?
phil labonte
Or it was like 2012, the end of the Mayan calendar.
brett dasovic
So, you know, yeah, Mayan calendar.
phil labonte
So.
brett dasovic
Large Hadron Collider.
phil labonte
It's when things got, yeah, the Large Hadron Collider and the End of the Mayan calendar both happened in the same year.
And that's when things got really weird in America.
You know, coincidentally, that's when social media became a big deal in everyone's pocket as well with the cell phone.
So, you know, you can choose whichever one you prefer to believe.
I think I'm going with.
Maybe it's both.
Maybe it's a mixture of all of these.
These are really crazy, you know?
terrence popp
Yeah.
phil labonte
So I don't know that, I mean, generally, I'm not usually particularly partial to supernatural stuff, but, you know, the mind.
terrence popp
I am.
phil labonte
Are you?
terrence popp
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I've seen some crazy stuff.
Please.
Well, the one that really stands out the most, I was stationed in Abu Ghraib prison in 04.
I was a first sergeant.
I'm coming back from a battalion meeting at like 10.30, 10.45 at night.
It is just black as midnight.
It is so dark.
And I turn the corner to go into the building, and there's a long hallway that runs the length of the building with fluorescent lights as bright as this above it.
I come around the corner, and I see a jet black shadow, arms and legs about 50, 60 feet away, walk across underneath the light and go into an alcove to the right.
phil labonte
In the Middle East, that's a gin.
terrence popp
It was a, you know, ghost ninja, I think.
But, you know, you're carrying your M4.
I lock and load.
I clear the corner and there's an alcove with three doors that are all padlocked from the outside.
And I was like eight seconds behind it.
There's no way that was a human being.
unidentified
Wait, what?
terrence popp
Yeah.
tim pool
What do you think it was?
terrence popp
It was a gin or a ghost.
tim pool
A gin.
terrence popp
Well, the thing is, is outside our walls, there was like four or five mass graves.
tim pool
How tall was it?
Like, describe it?
terrence popp
It's, you know, between five and six feet tall-ish.
And it had arms and legs, and it literally just walked right underneath the light.
And that was it.
That was like, oh my god, this place is hell on earth.
phil labonte
Yeah.
terrence popp
Yeah.
And the building we're in was the political prisoner building that had a wood chipper out back.
tim pool
What?
Was it stained?
terrence popp
Yes, it was.
tim pool
Oh, my God.
terrence popp
And I lived in a bunk that where that used to be, there was a tank that they dipped people in acid to death.
I saw the video.
phil labonte
Man.
tim pool
So let's start from the beginning because I have like no idea how we got here.
unidentified
All right.
terrence popp
Sorry.
I have a habit of going into the weeds sometimes.
tim pool
This is interesting.
So start from the beginning with the story.
Where were you?
What happened?
What is this building?
terrence popp
I was in Abu Ghraib prison in 04.
tim pool
And that's in.
terrence popp
Iraq.
And it literally right after the torture thing hit the news, we were the center of the butthole of the universe.
And we're getting attacked all the time.
And I was at a battalion meeting with my commander, you know, listening to their drivel.
They're incompetent bastards.
But I'm sorry for swearing.
But that is what it is.
And I left and I walked across the area to go back to our building because in Abu Ghraib, there's four actual prison complexes within the big complex itself.
I literally walked through the front door.
There's a long hallway with a fluorescent light right over the top.
And about 50, 60 feet to my front, a jet black human silhouette walked right across my path into an alcove to the right.
tim pool
This is a well-lit hallway.
terrence popp
It's not quite as bright as this.
It's close, but yeah.
tim pool
And so you saw a black silhouette figure walking in a well-lit area.
unidentified
Yes.
terrence popp
And I immediately thought it was Haji Ninja.
And I locked and loaded and cleared the corner and there was nothing there.
unidentified
Whoa.
terrence popp
Yeah.
tim pool
Shadow people.
terrence popp
Yeah.
I mean, I've seen some crazy stuff there.
And that was the one.
tim pool
So this, you were just saying that this place had like a wood chipper?
terrence popp
It had a wood chipper out back.
tim pool
Whose wood chipper was it?
terrence popp
It was the prisons.
tim pool
And this was like an Iraqi government prison, and they had a wood chipper.
terrence popp
They had analogs, wood chippers and the whole bunch of people.
tim pool
The implication, of course, is that they put people in the wood chipper.
terrence popp
Hopefully headfirst.
tim pool
I doubt it.
terrence popp
Yeah, I don't know.
tim pool
What's the point of the object, right?
terrence popp
Yes.
tim pool
To make other people watch as you say, like, this could be your fate.
Otherwise, they would just, you know, asphyxiate them or something.
Yeah, or a single bullet for the executions.
And you said there was like a mass grave out there.
terrence popp
Well, yes, there was four or five of them out there.
And they found it when they bulldozed the top off the dirt and they moved it against the far wall.
And I was running, when I first got to Iraq, I was running the sergeant of the guard and putting in guards and stuff.
And I would hang out and I had a little walkie-talkie on scan to find out if my dudes up in the towers were talking when they shouldn't.
And I look down, and there's a femur bone, a jaw, a whole bunch of little bones from hands and feet.
tim pool
How many...
terrence popp
That were stacked on top of each other.
That's what I was told by the CBs who were clearing the area.
tim pool
Do they know or do you know how many people may have been?
terrence popp
It's estimated somewhere between 50,000 to 150,000 people.
tim pool
Just buried in this pit.
terrence popp
Over a 15-year period.
tim pool
So I wonder, right?
There's a lot of superstition, theories, and no one really knows, but some people would say that in an area of dark concentration of evil, demons manifest, or it could be that the demons manifested first, and it's why those graves exist or something like that.
terrence popp
I don't know.
It's a chicken or egg argument.
tim pool
What do you think that thing was?
terrence popp
I think it was an individual who had been put to death and was still wandering the area.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
I think.
Did it look like a normal human?
Nothing weird about it?
No, like, you know, like hosting.
terrence popp
There's no wispy, anything.
It was just walked.
It was more like at a slight diagonal.
tim pool
Did you report it?
terrence popp
Of course I did.
tim pool
Because you're probably like, hey, the intruder, there's a guy in here, right?
terrence popp
Well, I ran it up the flag.
I told my commander and he's just like, what?
I don't think so.
Are you really going to run that up?
I'm like, yeah, this place is haunted.
He goes, well, it's just your affair.
So I ran it up there and, you know, people laughed about it.
tim pool
You know, I always wondered about this, though, because I watch these horror movies, and it's always written where, like, a lady will see a lizard come out of her closet.
And then she calls the police and says a giant lizard came out of my closet.
And they're going to be like, okay, lady, and hang up on her.
When she could have just said, a wild animal broke in my house.
I need someone help.
And they'd actually show up.
So I'm wondering, when you see this figure, wouldn't just you report that, hey, we got someone who breached the perimeter.
They're inside.
I don't know where they went.
terrence popp
I didn't report it as a breach because I cleared the corner and there was nobody there.
So I'm like, this is crazy.
tim pool
What if it was Haji Ninja and he just slipped into a room?
terrence popp
Nah, nobody's that good.
Sorry.
Not when I'm eight seconds behind you, locked and loaded with an M4.
You're done.
tim pool
So you just, did you actually say you saw a ghost or an entity or something?
You said ghost.
terrence popp
I said it was a ghost or shadow being.
And, you know, they made fun of me.
And I don't mind getting laughed at.
I'm like, okay, well, it's haunted.
I'm just telling you.
tim pool
I've seen horror movies like that, too, where the guy says, hey, I saw a shadow being or a ghost.
And they all laugh.
And then behind them, you can see the creature rising up.
And you're like, I'm telling you, it's there.
And they go, nice, Troy.
And then it eats them.
terrence popp
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, man.
That's crazy.
Why did that come up?
terrence popp
He talked about supernatural stuff.
phil labonte
Yeah, I don't remember exactly what happened.
brett dasovic
You're talking about the mind calendar.
phil labonte
Oh, yeah.
I was arguing that you don't believe in supernatural stuff.
And he said, I didn't.
I was pleased.
I said, at least.
tim pool
I believe in it.
terrence popp
Oh, I do.
tim pool
But here's the important thing to understand is what I don't get is the skeptics.
And, you know, with all due respect to atheists, the people who believe that the universe is static and it's just what we see in physics, because we know we haven't discovered everything.
Only in the last hundred years did we discover the electromagnetic spectrum.
So when you go to people and say there's an invisible energy all around us and I can harness it, they'd say, you're nuts.
And then the dude was like, here's a telephone.
And they're like, what?
All of a sudden, you got radio communications within a decade.
So when I hear stories of I saw a shadow being, okay, well, here's what you should consider.
Millions of people have reported seeing shadow beings.
terrence popp
Correct.
tim pool
So, to just dismiss it outright as they must be crazy is stupid.
You can argue humans have a misfiring in their brain where they might perceive a shadow being and it's actually internal, maybe, or it could be that there is something we have not yet discovered or we don't understand.
So, that's why I don't like paranormal or supernatural.
It just basically means we don't understand it yet because if it is part of existence, then it is part of natural reality.
terrence popp
It's part of a physics we have yet to discover.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, there's, you know, there are physicists that will talk about, you know, multiple dimensions that we can't access.
Like, there are people that say there are 14 dimensions, that there are, you know, more than just the up, down, left, right, forward, back, and time that we can experience, you know.
And so our ability to know things is limited to the, you know, the sensors that we have, our eyes, ears, and our own senses.
And we have to use instruments and tools to be able to access other things.
Like we have to use tools to be able to see the infrared spectrum.
We have to use tools to be able to see, you know, ultraviolet and stuff.
So, I mean, it does make sense that there's far more to the universe than we understand.
tim pool
We had a poltergeist phenomenon here.
terrence popp
Really?
tim pool
In the studio.
Yeah.
terrence popp
So the minute you see something move on its own, you're like, oh my God.
tim pool
And this happened twice.
terrence popp
You know nothing.
What happened here?
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
I can't get into the details.
But I can just say that several of the employees here witnessed it twice.
And we are all just like, there is no scientific explanation for what we have just witnessed.
I know people get really mad because they're like, you have to tell us a story.
I can't do it.
I can only tell you that we witnessed what I would call poltergeist activity in this building.
We built this building.
From the ground up, we cleared it.
We laid the foundation.
We put the dirt, the gravel.
We put the frames up.
The studio that we're in is part of, we should probably do like a tour.
Like, we haven't done this.
We have a gigantic, it's a 38-tall warehouse structure.
Inside the structure is another, I think, 2,000 square foot building or something or, you know, yeah, something like that.
It's got four rooms.
And so we built this thing, and it's very strange that we had this phenomenon happen here.
However, we did find a rusty Civil War bayonet on the grounds when we were building this.
terrence popp
Another thing is this could have been part of a homestead back in the day.
You don't, I mean, unless you go pull the plats at the county and look and see.
tim pool
There's a cemetery on the grounds.
terrence popp
There you go.
tim pool
And yeah.
But we are in the Civil War battle area, right?
Antietam is only, I think, maybe like 20 some odd miles from here.
Harper's Ferry is just around the corner.
And when they were building this structure, one of the contractors walked up to me with a Ziploc bag with a rusty Civil War bayonet.
And he's like, look what we found.
terrence popp
Wow.
tim pool
And we were like, uh...
unidentified
Yeah.
terrence popp
No, thank you.
tim pool
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know what we did with it.
Have you ever experienced any, have you experienced anything else like that when you were deposited?
terrence popp
I grew up in a haunted house.
phil labonte
Really?
terrence popp
Yeah.
I've been to virtually every military base you go to is haunted in some form or fashion.
I've seen that.
tim pool
Military bases.
terrence popp
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
brett dasovic
My earliest memory is of something that I couldn't explain, and I've never had anything like that happen since then.
The idea of a shadow person where my earliest memory was being in a bath and then somebody walking by the bathroom door that couldn't have been there because both my dad was gone and my mom was downstairs.
And that's, I've never had anything like that since.
I don't have any predisposition to like watching or paying attention to anything to do with the paranormal, but that is the earliest memory I have is something that couldn't have happened.
tim pool
It happened to me when I was a kid as well.
I woke up in the middle of the night and I saw a shadow figure in like outside my door.
And I won't get into the full details, but just it wasn't my parents.
You know, I just.
terrence popp
Were you looking directly at it or was it out of the corner of your eye?
tim pool
No, I was looking directly at it.
Just like I thought we were being robbed.
I thought someone broke into my house and I was like, I think I was like nine or ten.
And so I was thinking, just shut up and stay and don't move and let them think you're sleeping.
But we weren't robbed.
I could hear dishes clanking and just tenant.
terrence popp
It's a previous tenant.
tim pool
It could be.
I think the previous tenant was like some old lady and she was like a widow.
Yeah.
terrence popp
I've seen stuff like that.
tim pool
Man, but the mass grave stuff is crazy because I wonder if there is something to this idea of all of these people who died give off this concentration of loss that manifests into some kind of entity or something or some kind of psychic remnant.
terrence popp
Something negative gets left behind when that happens.
When enough people get put to the sword or they die quickly in an unexpected way, you're going to have residuals.
unidentified
Man.
terrence popp
That's exactly what we're probably looking at.
tim pool
What if people can't leave the earthly plane until their natural time span is up?
So when they're murdered, their soul is stuck for the next – Yeah, if you're supposed to live to be 60, 70, but you were killed at 23 in war, you just linger for 50 years because your soul doesn't leave until it's time.
terrence popp
That's a miserable existence.
tim pool
Yeah, and that's why ghosts are so miserable.
phil labonte
You definitely remember this.
The movie Ghost, right, with Patrick Swayze.
Remember the ghost that was stuck on the train?
terrence popp
Yes.
phil labonte
Talk about a miserable existence, right?
Like to be stuck on a subway train and just like always angry at everybody around you.
tim pool
Maybe that's why they're stuck, though.
tate brown
Dying at the past.
tim pool
Because the afterlife is like this person's just like not a good entity to come.
You know what I mean?
brett dasovic
And then as like medical technology improves and people live longer, then the ghosts just have to stay here longer and longer and longer.
terrence popp
That's miserable.
tim pool
You're only supposed to be here for 70 years, but we artificially extend your lifespan so your soul just zips out and then you're just like well you know you run out of time you run out of time that's just the way it rolls i mean i myself i'm on the 65 and out plan so that's 65 and out when you so how old are you now i am uh one hairy nutsack away from 60.
terrence popp
oh wow so i'm 56.
brett dasovic
all right i'm just playing how often was uh was that something that happened regularly in the military was it Were you one of the few that reported something like that, or would that be a fairly common occurrence?
terrence popp
Most people would never, ever report that.
brett dasovic
That's being made fun of, or for fear of both.
Or they're going to be like, what are you wasting our time for?
tim pool
It's insane to me.
That's insane to me.
Imagine, you know, with the UFO stuff we see, these pilots are like, we had the very famous story where the fighter pilot said an object locked to the left of his jet, and when he turned, it was moving with him.
Imagine if he was like, if I report that, I'll look crazy.
This means that if China, Russia, Iran, or anybody develops any kind of special weapon, our men and women are going to be like, better not report it because of the stigma.
And it's like, bro, you tell them because that's why it's important you do.
It's crazy to me that there could be something actually happening in this prison where, like, maybe it, you know what?
Let's say this.
Maybe it literally was Haji Ninja and you didn't believe it, so you called it a ghost.
The response should be, hey, look, man, our guy, he's doing security and he says he saw some kind of figure.
I'm not going to make assumptions as to what that is.
Let's get a sweep and make sure there's nobody in here.
terrence popp
Yeah.
tim pool
Instead, they're like, ah, you're crazy.
And next thing you know, Haji Ninja succeeds in his assassination plot.
terrence popp
And I was also in Phoenix for the Phoenix lights.
phil labonte
Oh, you were there for that?
Really?
terrence popp
Yeah.
tim pool
You saw them.
terrence popp
I was working out of Phoenix as an investment banker and I was kickboxing, so I've worked out quite a bit.
tim pool
This episode's getting weird.
terrence popp
And I'm literally out just doing a jog, and I'm like, oh, look.
And I look back and those aren't flares.
I thought they were flares.
And it was in a V formation and I watched it for like 15, 20 minutes.
And then I'm like, eh.
I continued my workout.
tate brown
Was there any noise?
terrence popp
No, completely silent.
tate brown
But they're moving at a steady rate?
terrence popp
I've seen flares.
I've seen all the crazy stuff.
tim pool
Was there a structure?
terrence popp
I didn't see the structure.
tim pool
Let's just saw the lights.
Because the crazy thing is drone technology, quadcopter, is fairly rudimentary.
And I'm sure the military had this stuff a long time ago.
That easily explains the Phoenix lights.
terrence popp
It could be.
tim pool
But this is before commercial-grade quad rotors and, you know, smart controllers and things like this.
So, and GPS, to such a degree that we knew of, for the average person, it was unthinkable that you could have these objects flying in formation.
But for the military, it was probably rudimentary.
terrence popp
Well, yeah, it could be.
It could be.
The thing that really disturbed me about the whole thing is the governor of Phoenix or of Arizona at the time, like hammed it up and was kind of a douche about the whole thing.
And, you know, if you have something in your airspace, you probably should inquire what that is.
brett dasovic
Could be a spyball.
tim pool
Let's come back to Earth.
We got this story from the post-millennial.
Zorin Mamdani, you know him, you love him, applauds personal NYPD detail despite past calls to defund the police.
I call this the epitome of snake oil.
This guy's got more than enough clips of him talking about defunding the police.
One in particular where he says replace it with something that actually keeps people safe.
Then you get this shooting, and he's trying to play this game where he's effectively doubling down while trying to act like he doesn't want to defund the police.
Postmano says New York City mayoral candidate Zoran Mamdani is facing criticism after defending his use of a personal NYPD detail despite his long-standing public calls to defund the police.
Mamdani addressed the issue at a recent press conference and asked about his recent trip to Uganda, where he held a multi-day wedding celebration at a family-owned compound surrounded by armed security.
The event drew backlash from critics who said his actions contradict the policies he advocates for.
The socialist candidate defended his personal security measures due to threats he's received during the campaign.
Quote, they are also precautions that I'm immensely grateful for, especially in the example of the NYPD detail that I have here in New York City.
Mamdani has previously called for abolishing law enforcement agencies and banning all firearms in the United States.
Yeah.
phil labonte
After the attack yesterday, he came out and was like, oh, we have to ban assault rifles and whatnot, which is – I mean, it's typical for someone that's of that ideological makeup.
terrence popp
They want to have the ability to have their own security, but they don't want – One of the main reasons is if you look at the historic examples, if a government exists long enough, it will go off the rails.
And I myself don't want to be without any way of defending myself and then put in a camp or worse.
That's just me.
And the assault rifle thing, those are very dangerous.
They're meant to be dangerous.
But here's something that's even worse.
If you know what you're doing, and you have a bolt action and a scope, you can do all kinds of damage.
tim pool
This is what...
Look, in Maryland, have you ever...
terrence popp
Michigan, just outside Detroit.
tim pool
Maryland, I was told by local gun shop, it's called one of the evil seven, these seven states that are evil.
Maryland has a list of assault weapons that are banned, and it's random and nonsensical.
So you don't know the criteria because there isn't one.
There are some criteria, like a four grip plus something equals assault rifle.
However, they also have a list of just weapons they've deemed to be assault weapons.
So you have to go to the website and look up the gun you have to make sure it's not an assault weapon.
So an M1A, for instance, is an assault weapon, but a SCAR-20S is not.
terrence popp
That's insane.
tim pool
It makes no sense.
So what we often see, and I'm not a big gun guy, okay?
But every gun person knows that if a crazy person has a fully automatic weapon, an actual assault rifle, it's bad, but they spray and they miss.
When you make it so they have to have semi-auto, they aim and they hit.
terrence popp
Well, in all of my travels in the military, I've never been a fan of the full auto rifle.
I've only fired my full auto rifle one time.
Other than that, it was all semi-auto, two, three rounds per target.
That was it.
In 33 years, maybe I fired seven magazines.
That's it.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
I suppose the fear would be if this crazy guy had, like, you know, a drum or a belt going around his back or something.
terrence popp
Yeah, I mean, I would like to know what happened at the Vegas shooting because I do not fall in the middle.
tim pool
I'm going to tell you.
I'm going to tell you right now.
He was a Marxist, woke activist, and he was doing it for racial justice.
And the reason I'm saying that is because whenever they withhold information, that tends to be the political leaning of the individual.
So I'm just going to go.
People are like, he was a gun runner.
I'm like, I'm going to go with communist.
phil labonte
I mean, I don't know what.
tim pool
Anti-white activist.
phil labonte
I don't know what his political ideology was or whatever, but I know that dragging all that ammo and all those guns up that many, up to the whatever floor it was, that is not a small job.
That's a lot of crisis.
tate brown
Bellhop helped me.
terrence popp
This is going to really twist your noodle right here.
If you listen to the audio, there's two different machine guns going off.
There's a .30 caliber and there's a 5.56.
If you've been in a firefight one time in your life, you will understand what those sounds are.
And when I heard the audio, I'm like, that is a 30-caliber machine gun.
And then you hear the 5.56.
phil labonte
There are people that say people that think he had a .240 up there and that there was a .240 and a saw.
tim pool
What if it was cyclical rate?
terrence popp
What if it was more than one person?
tim pool
In all seriousness, what if it was a guy was doing some kind of fast and furious gun running, like we saw with the Obama administration, and they're doing it in Vegas because they're not too far from the border, I mean, but, you know, they're carrying it.
Right.
And what if he's doing this deal, they find out he's Intel, and it's a con, and a firefight breaks out?
terrence popp
Yeah, that is a good theory.
But when you...
tim pool
So how do you explain...
What is the logic behind two different weapons unloading on this concept?
terrence popp
Multiple participants.
tim pool
With an ideological bend?
terrence popp
I'm not sure, but whenever you have people hosing into a crowd with automatic weapons, it's done for a specific purpose.
tim pool
Could it be that there was something like it was an Islamic terror attack and they blamed this guy to cover up what happened?
terrence popp
It could be.
What I want to see is I want the information released to the public because shortly after it happened, it was swept under the rug and a lot of people got whacked.
tim pool
And they're still...
They're not doing it.
terrence popp
Yeah.
I find that pretty upsetting.
phil labonte
Frustrating.
tim pool
But do you think there's a possibility that the release of this is the challenge, right?
Do you trust the government?
terrence popp
No.
tim pool
Indeed.
So the challenge is, does it get better than Cash and Dan, right?
I mean, these are the guys that we are hoping for, but there's going to be a comment.
There's going to be two factors, personal interest or national security.
They will always claim national security, but it is very often personal interest.
So let's say this guy was doing illicit gun running for an illegal outfit connected to deep state corruption or something.
They ain't never going to tell you because they don't want their crimes exposed.
There is a possibility that whatever actually happened, the release of the information could threaten national security.
It's hard to get the logic in that direction because they always fall back on national security.
terrence popp
Just like, well, it's national security.
We're not going to answer this question.
So, you know, pound sand.
phil labonte
Yeah.
terrence popp
How do you get away with it?
Yeah.
phil labonte
I mean, yeah, I don't see how a national security argument would work when it comes to Vegas, at least, though.
terrence popp
Well, listen, the government has lawyers who weave lies within lies and then wash it down with a thin little veil of truth.
Just so they can get the suppository up your backside.
phil labonte
If they can figure out a way to tell you that it's okay for the police to seize your property, seize cash, and then they're not going to have the actual court case be against you.
It's going to be the police versus the cash, or that because you're growing wheat on your own property to feed to your own animals, that that affects interstate commerce so the government can regulate that.
If those are the kind of decisions that they're going to make, then they can justify anything.
terrence popp
Absolutely correct.
tate brown
Vegas was like, what, bump stocks got banned like two weeks after Vegas?
tim pool
Yeah, it made no sense.
They claimed he had a bump stock.
It didn't sound like a bump.
terrence popp
No, a bump stock is, if you fire the bump stock, yes, you will get bursts, but you're not really going to be able to burn 150 rounds.
Yeah.
I'm sorry, you're going to have breaks in there.
That had to have been a belt-fed machine gun, in my opinion.
phil labonte
Interesting.
And bump stocks, like you don't need to have a bump stock to do that.
If you have a belt loop, you can do the same thing that a bump stock does.
tim pool
Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you can just use your hand.
phil labonte
Probably, yeah.
tim pool
I watched a YouTube video where people who practice can bump fire just using their arm.
terrence popp
Yeah.
tim pool
You're not going to get 150 rounds off.
terrence popp
No, you're not.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
No.
tim pool
What is it like?
You basically like, well, I'm not going to describe it just for the sake of what we're talking about.
I won't describe how it's done, but some people just do it by holding the weapon.
And the belt loop is a common thing.
terrence popp
And another thing is you're going to see a lot more of this because, you know, communists, if you look at historically, look, the first thing they do is they disarm the population.
phil labonte
Yep.
terrence popp
They take the means of production.
And if that's not producing enough to feed everyone, too bad.
If you say anything, you're going in a pit.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
This is going to be detrimental for New York because I have a good friend who's NYPD.
He's an officer.
I can't say which state, but a Sunbelt state has proposed an offer to him and his buddies.
terrence popp
Yes.
tate brown
And he's saying if Zoron wins, which is likely at this point, he'll be on the first Monday after he gets elected.
He'll be starting down there.
Disaster.
I mean, those jobs are really what makes New York magic is these firefighters and policemen and the solution.
terrence popp
Socialism is the welcome mat for communism.
Yep.
They are virtually identical.
tate brown
Well, and Zoron has this weird strain where it's not even like Bernie Marxism, where it's like, this is like resentful Marxism, where he comes from the third world, he kind of has this chip on his shoulder about it, and New York is kind of the pinnacle of Western civilization in a lot of ways.
So there's just this vindictiveness that he carries with him where he just totally has an axe to grind with Western civilization.
And that's bigger than Marxism or anything.
terrence popp
If this was my show, I would have already drank three beers by now.
Because I'm getting spun up just looking at this guy.
brett dasovic
I mean, that's the same playbook that Ilan Omar had as well, which is a hatred for the West, despite the fact that the West took you in.
tate brown
She has no actual ideology.
It's just hatred and vindictiveness, mostly against white Americans specifically.
phil labonte
That's a lot of what motivates the left and specifically communists is they don't, it's not that they want to help people that are poor or whatever.
It's that they want to hurt people that are not poor.
And if you have a mayor like Mamdani, right, if he gets into office and he actually can implement his policies, you can expect the city tax rate to go up.
You can expect property to be taken from people that don't follow whatever kind of rules he comes up with.
And that's going to run people out of New York City.
New York City being the finest.
Yeah, they are.
terrence popp
And California.
phil labonte
Yeah.
But like New York City is the financial capital of the world right now.
And you will see a lot of those people saying, we can go ahead and do our business in Miami.
We can do it in Houston.
We can do it in other places.
We don't have to be in New York City.
terrence popp
Absolutely correct.
That doesn't need to happen anymore.
tate brown
But it's also one of those things that some people are like, we'll just let it burn.
It's like, it's not a good sign for your country if your major city that really represents you on the world stage is falling apart.
It's like you can't really seed ground like this.
I mean, if it's like Chicago, no offense, but it's like, okay, we can try socialism.
You know, we can see what, because it's Chicago, right?
Like, but you can't do that in New York.
We're cooked if New York falls.
I mean, that's the country.
phil labonte
I don't think New York would fall.
tate brown
They're just 10 years ahead of us.
terrence popp
New York, you know, does a dirt dart.
It could really set the example for the rest of the country of what not to do.
tate brown
But we already know what not to do.
tim pool
Did you see what's going on in California?
The federal prosecutor can't get indictments from grand juries.
terrence popp
Wow.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Because the grand juries are commies.
So the people who live in L.A. are being presented with...
Normally, this is an easy grand jury.
You can indict a ham sandwich.
We're not talking about beyond a reasonable doubt.
And the grand juries are saying no, which is extremely rare.
And it seems like what's happening is the culture in Los Angeles is ICE bad.
So when you go before a group of Los Angeles residents and say, this guy assaulted ICE agents, they go, oh, great.
Where do we give him his medal?
And then you're like, no, no, we want to prosecute him.
I'm like, well, we're not doing that.
No indictment.
And they just vote no.
That's a breakdown.
terrence popp
Yes, it is.
brett dasovic
It's like the opposite of what it used to be, which is like a cop could do the most awful thing in the world.
And they'd be like, well, we're not prosecuting him.
tim pool
Look, this is exactly what we've been talking about for some time.
I've been saying this.
What happens when people just argue the law?
Nobody agrees on what the law is.
The left is putting out these arguments that ICE is abducting people.
One of the ladies who was apparently charged with assaulting an officer claimed that she thought she was being abducted by strangers.
It's like, we know you're lying.
You know these guys are ice, okay?
brett dasovic
Also with Marxist, language doesn't mean anything other than something that they can, And no language, no word that is actually supposed to mean something carries the same meaning to you as it does to them.
phil labonte
You're not speaking all that.
Marxists share our dictionary, but they don't.
We share a vocabulary, but we don't share the dictionary.
terrence popp
They change the dictionary.
tim pool
But let's clarify this.
They know what you mean.
They are lying to you to trick you into doing the wrong thing.
terrence popp
Gaslighting.
tim pool
Well, gaslighting refers to changing the past.
So it's not necessarily gaslighting.
It's more of tricking you into making assumptions.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
So, you know, saying racist, then when you challenge them, they say, no, no, I mean power plus prejudice.
And it's like, oh, that's a different thing.
You caught me, but I'll change the definition to justify what I'm saying.
So they can say the word, when they say racist to you, they know what that means and what you think it means.
If you then challenge them, telling them they're wrong and lying, you say, no, it's because I'm using the academic definition.
So it's a way to layer their lying.
phil labonte
Yeah.
It's the way to use postmodernism because postmodernists don't believe that words have meaning other than the ability to use the words to achieve power.
tim pool
Along with the fascists, they also believe the same thing.
phil labonte
Yeah, fascists are frequently.
There is no truth but power.
unidentified
Exactly.
phil labonte
But that's what they do.
That's why there are specific definitions that are quote unquote academic, and they'll use them interchangeably in the same argument, right?
You'll be talking to them, and they'll say, well, that's racist.
And you'll say, well, or they'll say, you're racist.
You'll say, oh, I'm not racist.
They'll say, well, you know, blah, blah, blah, power plus prejudice, et cetera, et cetera.
And then so they can't be racist.
But when it comes to, you know, later on in the argument, they'll use racist in the same way that it's just prejudice against a group.
terrence popp
You know how I shut that down?
I literally go.
You're absolutely correct.
I'm an estophobe egotist.
Say whatever you got to say.
phil labonte
Yep.
terrence popp
I don't care.
tim pool
Let's jump to the story from CBS.
Ladies and gentlemen, it is like Willy Wonka and the chocolate factory.
High noon recall warns some Celsius energy drink cans may contain vodka seltzer.
Children all across this nation are gleefully rushing to their local 7-Eleven, hoping that as they purchase a Celsius energy drink, they may in fact get alcohol.
brett dasovic
No, somebody who works at Timcast has the opportunity to do the funniest thing ever tomorrow and just come in with the Celsius.
tim pool
There's one in the fridge right now.
I think it's the one they're talking about.
Who wants to open it?
terrence popp
Well, there's a new name for vodka.
It's water of alcohol.
tate brown
This is the wokest recall.
Trump won.
We don't have to do this crap anymore.
This is the wokest recall I've ever seen.
tim pool
Beverage brand High Noon is recalling some of its vodka seltzer packs due to some cans being mislabeled as non-alcoholic energy drinks.
Great potential for unintended alcohol consumption.
So they're saying that you could buy a high noon and get Celsius.
tate brown
That's America.
That's America.
Somebody on X was just like, this one at the ballot box.
brett dasovic
Somebody on X was like, DUI lawyers just hit the jackpot.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
For real, though.
terrence popp
Yeah.
tim pool
Wow.
brett dasovic
But I see like somebody's at work tomorrow drinking this and then like they're bought.
Like nobody's as annoying as they normally are and they can't figure out why.
tate brown
I just love the idea tomorrow just employees all across America just hammer.
tim pool
Do we do you want to run and check if we have the astro vibe in the fridge right now?
tate brown
I'm on a boss.
phil labonte
What is the taste?
tim pool
So Celsius Astro vibe is apparently the one that may be vodka.
phil labonte
Okay.
tim pool
I don't think that's what we have, but we do have a Celsius in there and someone, it was like the gross stuff.
brett dasovic
And your boss that's up on the stories like, oh, that's not an astro vibe.
You're full of shit.
unidentified
Right.
terrence popp
The older you get, you know.
No, is it an astro vibe?
tim pool
Arctic vibe.
phil labonte
Oh, what?
brett dasovic
It's even more vodka.
tim pool
Arctic vibe.
Can we get, is it possible?
Is that the only one?
What does it say?
It says lot codes.
The recall was initiated after High Noon discovered that a shared packaging supplier mistakenly shipped empty Celsius cans to High Noon.
So wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on.
Wait, wait, wait.
unidentified
Awesome.
tim pool
So like you're in the High Noon factory and you get a bunch of cans of Celsius and you're like, you just pull the lever anyway, you load them in.
terrence popp
Yeah.
tim pool
Like the low-level employee just like, a box comes in.
They're like, what's Celsius?
Don't know.
Load it up.
Above my pay grade.
brett dasovic
There was literally like this story on X like last week of this guy who said like he'd been drinking white cloth on the way to work for like a year and found out like at the end of a year that they were out that they had alcohol in him.
He's like, fine.
tate brown
I don't know why I got fired.
terrence popp
Yeah, it happens.
It happens.
tate brown
It is lost at the election.
tim pool
Sparkling Blue Raz Edition.
Unfortunately, we have Sparkling Frozen Berry Edition.
tate brown
Sorry, guys.
It's not alcohol code.
But the thing is, is there a couple Celsius?
tim pool
Do we try it?
terrence popp
They're going to pin it on a guy, right?
tim pool
I'm going to double check him right now.
I don't know who this is.
Do we know whose this was?
tate brown
It's yours now.
tim pool
It's mine now.
terrence popp
They're going to pin it on like the lowest level guy, and he's going to be like, I just flipped the switch.
tate brown
All right, boy, Celsius around the world.
tim pool
Oh, it smells kind of weird.
tate brown
Uh-oh, we're cooked.
tim pool
I'm going to try it.
tate brown
This show is going to get wacky and wild.
tim pool
Oh, my God.
Oh, that is disgusting.
brett dasovic
It's not as good as a Rev 7.
phil labonte
Rant.
unidentified
They got nothing on Rev 7.
brett dasovic
Just distills the essence of Michael.
tate brown
Like NyQuil.
tim pool
It does taste like that.
unidentified
It's awful.
tim pool
Celsius is going to be so mad at it.
tate brown
This is in the Arctic.
brett dasovic
That's even funnier if it's an energy drink that accidentally got NyQuil in it.
tate brown
That is not the Arctic.
tim pool
It literally does taste like NyQuil.
tate brown
It's disgusting.
tim pool
Anyway, guys, that was fun.
tate brown
We're not getting their sponsorship.
tim pool
But before we move on, we do have a great sponsor.
It's Celsius.
phil labonte
Oh, no.
tim pool
Who wants to try this?
No, thank you.
To be honest, I'm exaggerating.
It's like grape.
It does taste like Nyquil.
tate brown
It tastes like NyQuil.
And you know what's going to happen?
It's people are going to be coming on Friday night.
They're going to get pulled over.
You're like, sir, how many Celsius have you had to drink tonight?
Look, you have a lot of energy.
terrence popp
No, I drink Nyquil straight.
tim pool
Oh, you know what?
It reminds me of Dymatap.
I remember when you were a kid, the grape Dymatap?
Is that what it was?
Dimotap?
brett dasovic
I still remember those collections for Dymatap.
It made it look delicious.
tate brown
Wait, what if they put lean in the actual?
phil labonte
Grape drank is what it is.
Yeah, yeah, drink.
tim pool
Grape tasting.
That's what it tastes like.
tate brown
They accidentally packaged the perp drank of Celsius.
unidentified
I don't know.
brett dasovic
When I was little, all the companies are like crossing over.
Jolly Rancher is going to start making their own lean before long.
tate brown
Yeah.
That's going to happen.
terrence popp
It tastes like the watermelon Jolly Ranchers.
tim pool
I'm going to be fair on this.
It's not that it's the worst drink I've ever had.
It's just bitter, and it tastes like artificial sweeteners.
It's not a fish drink.
tate brown
It's just disgusting.
tim pool
It's got, let's see, taurine, ground, all that's fine.
Sucralose.
That's just the splenda.
brett dasovic
Any erythritol?
tate brown
Is it bull semen?
terrence popp
It does not have erythritol.
brett dasovic
No, it's the white monster though.
tate brown
Why does people say it?
tim pool
It's the caffeine that makes it taste bad, to be honest.
terrence popp
I don't know.
tim pool
Yeah, because Rev7's got Splenda in it as well.
I'm not a big fan, but however they nail the flavor on these drinks, I don't know.
It's amazing.
It's got Splenda in it as well.
Sucralose, they call it.
Sucralose.
terrence popp
I call it a cancer bomb.
I still drink sugar for your Red Bull, even though it's bad for me.
tate brown
Oh, you got to stress test the body.
You know, throw a little McDonald's down there every once in a while.
Is she still alive?
brett dasovic
Is this guy who makes these Instagram reels?
He goes, he's like a gym bro, and he has never skip heart day, and it's just him drinking non-stop white lobsters.
tate brown
Yeah, because what's going to happen if you ever get like there's a shooting and like, oh, but your heart's ready.
You know, it's been through a Big Mac or two.
phil labonte
Remember the stairs for that?
tim pool
Didn't some lady die drinking the Panera lemonade?
brett dasovic
Yeah, yeah, yep.
Can't get that anymore either.
phil labonte
Yeah, they had the, it was like extra high octane lemonade.
brett dasovic
They were living heart attacks or whatever.
tate brown
I bet like productivity was super high around that.
brett dasovic
Like employment productivity just fell off a cliff.
tate brown
Took it away.
unidentified
She died.
phil labonte
She did.
tim pool
21-year-old died.
brett dasovic
A 21-year-old.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
brett dasovic
Had to have a pre-existing.
tim pool
Oh, this happened like a couple months ago.
No, no, no.
It's because, what is it?
Sarah Katz Caffeine Safety Act.
She drank like, what did you drink?
Like 2,000 milligrams of caffeine or something?
terrence popp
That'll do it.
unidentified
Bro.
So.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
21, she went to cardiac arrest after consuming, it says one of, I'm pretty sure the story was that she didn't know it was ultra high caffeine.
So she kept getting refills as she was eating.
And then her heart.
brett dasovic
That had to be terrifying for her, too.
terrence popp
I mean, a cup of coffee has about 10?
90?
tim pool
I think it's about 90.
terrence popp
That was 200.
tim pool
What's that?
brett dasovic
That one's got 200.
If you're drinking a lot of caffeine or whatever, once you cut it back, you find that you'll have more energy if you're having 75 milligrams of caffeine in call it, as opposed to taking in 200 milligrams of caffeine in the morning.
tim pool
90.
95.
terrence popp
It's got 95.
phil labonte
The amount of caffeine that I used to drink when I was smoking Marlboro Reds and drinking Red Bull all day, I would have 10 Red Bulls in a day without even noticing.
unidentified
Yeah.
brett dasovic
But once you cut it back, you start having more energy again.
tim pool
I went on a road.
terrence popp
Did you put a PET scan?
phil labonte
I've gone to the doctor and I'm good.
I'm good.
I don't have high blood pressure or anything.
And I would do it while I was ripping reds in the morning.
unidentified
Stressed out.
phil labonte
How were three reds with a big 12-ounce Red Bull.
It was great.
tim pool
I was on a road trip to North Dakota for the pipeline protest.
And I went with this woman who was like, we had mutual friends.
And so we were going to split the driving.
Like, you drive half, I'll drive half.
The only problem was I'm in the passenger side at one point, and I'm like, I'm going to take a nap.
And I wake up to like this shake, and we're going 95.
And I kid you not, she's holding her phone going like this while driving.
And I was like, what the f ⁇ are you doing?
So at that point on, I was like, I'm driving the rest of the way.
And this was leaving.
No, yeah, wait, I think this was leaving or was on the way there.
I think it was on the way there.
And so what happens is I now have to drive basically 24 hours nonstop.
So I loaded up on a bunch of energy drinks and ate very little.
And I think I had like two ultra tall monsters, two five-hour energies.
And I went to outer space.
It was like three in the morning and I was driving.
And then everything turned crystal, like, like I was hallucinating.
Everything looked like it was like crystal HD.
And I was like, my heart was going, I thought I was going to die.
And then the backs of cars started turning the faces of cats.
And I was like, I'm pulling over.
phil labonte
Dude, when you've got to go from like Salt Lake to Vegas in the overnight, like a couple no-does, a couple Red Bull, and a whole pack of Marlboros will get you there.
terrence popp
So you were trying to avoid an argument with physics.
That's why you drove.
tim pool
I guess.
Yeah, you look, man.
You sacrifice to do the job.
You got to do what you got to do.
brett dasovic
It doesn't even work anymore.
All the kids are just taking a bunch of Adderall anyways.
They have the monster.
It doesn't do anything.
tate brown
It doesn't work because you try to get a nerdy drink.
You just get hammered.
You can't even drive anymore.
tim pool
And then just to cap the story off, we pull into this truck stop and I'm like, I need to drink a bunch of water and just stop before I die.
And we were in North Dakota where it was like minus 20 or whatever.
And I'm like, let's go inside.
And she's like, no.
And then I was like, okay, you can't sit in the car when it's minus 20.
You'll die.
She's like, I'll just go to sleep.
And I'm like, that's how you die.
terrence popp
That's exactly how you die.
tim pool
She was like, I'll be fine.
I was like, oh my God.
tate brown
Oh, my goodness.
tim pool
And then I'm pretty sure I dropped her off in North Dakota and just, she died.
brett dasovic
Never heard from her again.
tim pool
Yeah, actually.
terrence popp
And hypothermia, it sneaks up on you.
tim pool
Yeah, you think you're warm, you fall asleep, and then you're dead.
terrence popp
And then you're done.
tim pool
And then I was just like, this is insane.
brett dasovic
That's why you don't drink the brown liquor when your temperature is that cold.
It tricks your body into thinking it's warmer than it is.
terrence popp
Well, yeah.
tim pool
Do you guys know the story?
Was it like the Datloff Pass incident or whatever?
Yeah.
Is that what it was?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Where like, they found the camp abandoned and then like their clothes were thrown off and they were just gone.
unidentified
Yeah.
terrence popp
It ran off into the...
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Maybe they got cold and started hallucinating and then when you're getting cold, you feel like you're hot, so you take your clothes off.
brett dasovic
Or maybe they got a bunch of Celsius and ended up being alcohol.
tate brown
Yeah, they got one of those charged lemonades and just went not.
terrence popp
I've had hypothermia a couple times.
It's not pretty.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Yeah.
There's a movie based on this where they find an old Russian base and then they time travel on accident.
brett dasovic
It's called.
tim pool
I forget, but it was fun, so I recommend it.
phil labonte
I'm surprised you don't know just from the description.
tim pool
Yeah, they go there, they find an old Russian base, then they get attacked by these weird monsters, and then at the end, they find a camera that was their camera that filmed everything they did.
Then they get warped back in time or whatever, and they become the monsters.
Time loop.
terrence popp
Time loop, huh?
tim pool
Yeah, something like that.
unidentified
Nice.
tim pool
Anyway, what were we talking about?
Oh, yeah.
All the kids in the country right now, all the teenagers, are running to their local 7-Elevens and buying as much of the Celsius Astro Vibe as they can.
brett dasovic
I just want this flavor.
tim pool
It's the golden ticket, man.
It's like exactly.
They're cracking it open and like, wait, wait.
And they sip it.
phil labonte
Oh, they're like, we did it.
tim pool
We were able to buy alcohol.
terrence popp
When I was a young man or young person, it was not that hard to get your hands on alcohol.
tim pool
I mean, same, you know, like you'd stand out in front of a liquor store and then a guy would walk up and you'd be like, hey, buy me a six-pack.
And he'd be like, that's it.
terrence popp
Yeah.
tim pool
And he just walks out.
He go, kid.
terrence popp
You did that quite a few times.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Nobody cared.
You know what the fuck?
When I was a kid, you know how easy it was to get cigarettes?
You'd walk into the store and say, like, I have a note from my mom.
And they'd be like, yeah, they'd be like, all right, that's fine by me.
terrence popp
I used to go there and buy territens for my mother.
tim pool
What is that?
terrence popp
It's a nasty cigarette that she used to smoke.
phil labonte
What was it called?
What were they?
terrence popp
Territins.
unidentified
Oh.
Yeah.
Yeah.
phil labonte
I remember that.
tim pool
I have a little handwritten note, and the guy looks at it and says, okay, and he hands you the cigarette.
terrence popp
Yes, that's exactly how it went down.
tim pool
Yeah, kids these days don't know what they're missing.
phil labonte
Cigarettes?
You're right.
tim pool
I just mean like how lax things kind of were.
phil labonte
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
You know?
terrence popp
Well, that was back when you had an operating family.
There was actually discipline and morals.
Now you have.
tim pool
Trust.
The truth was.
phil labonte
It was more dangerous in the past, too.
Like, there were more abductions.
There were more people, like bad things that were happening.
There were more murders in the past.
brett dasovic
New York City was a war zone.
phil labonte
Yeah, it's true.
terrence popp
I remember the Oakland County child killer when I was a kid.
phil labonte
Yep.
terrence popp
And that was serious business.
My grandfather actually drove by the field where they found one of the victims for years.
And he had a supernatural incident.
We won't go into it.
phil labonte
Sarah and I were talking about how old is the kid going to be before he can go take his bike and ride off.
And I was like, you know, he can be six and he can go, you know, tool around the neighborhood.
And she's like, six?
Oh, that's so young.
And I was like, I was like, hold on.
I literally called my mom.
I was like, how old was I when I jumped on my bike and took off?
She was like, you were like four.
terrence popp
Four.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
She's like, you were just gone.
As soon as I could get on the bike, there was a little curb on the driveway my dad put in.
He actually put the driveway in.
As soon as I could step onto the curb and get on the bike, I was gone.
And I knew to be back by the time the lights came on.
terrence popp
Yeah, when the lights come on, you better be home.
phil labonte
Yep.
tim pool
Let's jump to this story.
We've got this from Prime Timer.
Ladies and gentlemen, I have a lot of people saying that American Eagle has responded with an apology to the Sydney Sweeney ad.
They didn't.
It's a parody from Clickhole, and it's hilarious.
And it's weird that anyone considers an apology.
I got to be honest, the Click Hole joke is funny, but it's weird there's a backlash at all to a model wearing clothes.
But sure.
So here's what happens.
There is an apology that's gone viral.
It's not real.
I'm going to read it for you, and I'm going to gently massage the language for those that are having family in the room.
So this is going around, and I saw people saying this is real.
It's not real.
It's not real.
Okay.
For those that are not familiar with the context, Sidney Sweeney Has Great Jeans is the ad campaign.
And they show her boobs, and she smacks her butt, and there's a bunch of these, and woke lefties are like, this is Nazi propaganda.
Jeans?
That's eugenics.
So Clickhole made this.
It says, we hear you.
Our Sidney Sweeney Has Great Jeans campaign missed the mark.
Our intention was purely to inspire you to images of Sidney Sweeney wearing our clothes.
We had no ulterior purpose or message to convey beyond get yourself off on these close-up shots of Sidney Sweeney's body in tight-fitting denim.
That's it.
That people viewed our ad as promoting eugenics and not as sexual fodder they could think about while pleasuring themselves in the shower or where were they to images of buxom women like Sidney Sweeney breaks our heart.
Perhaps our messaging could have been clearer.
Maybe a more literal slogan such as, Sidney Sweeney has great breasts and buttocks for you to, would have spared our brand all this trouble.
It's too late to know.
All we can do now is officially condemn any and all ideologies that endorse eugenics and promise to do better.
One of the things that's funny about this is that Click Hole, I believe, was like really, was like BuzzFeed Company or something like that.
These companies, like Clickhole was woke.
This is part of that woke media industrial complex.
And when you look at what's going on with South Park, they're all abandoning it as fast as they can.
They're now getting on the edgy and offensive comedy as quickly as they can and trying to return to literal humor over this.
phil labonte
I just put something in the Slack.
terrence popp
The words you should use is pulling your noodle.
I believe that is YouTube acceptable.
brett dasovic
Apparently the new naked gun is really good.
And the comedy is actually really, really good.
tim pool
So Phil, we have an update.
Phil just sent me this.
American Eagle and Sidney Sweeney, vast majority like her genes, social media isn't real life.
So they're saying TMZ wrongly attributed the information to an AE spokesperson.
We reached out to AE, they had no comment.
So I guess what, they ran this fake apology?
unidentified
Yeah.
brett dasovic
That's weird.
tim pool
They ran the clickhole apology?
brett dasovic
TMZ is usually on top of these things.
phil labonte
Wow.
terrence popp
Really?
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
And they went with that apology.
phil labonte
Okay.
I do think that it's worth noting American Eagle has not come out with an apology.
Yeah.
tim pool
Oh, no, they didn't run the clickhole one.
They just ran a different statement.
phil labonte
Oh, okay.
tim pool
And they misattributed it.
It says, the bottom line is it was about creating a great pair of jeans and supporting a very worthy cause through some of the proceeds going to domestic violence prevention.
Anything beyond that is noise.
So who actually said this?
phil labonte
I'm not 100% sure.
Whoever said it, TMZ was running it.
So that's why I shared it because it related.
But like I said, I think it's worth noting that we talked about Jolie Swole today on PCC.
brett dasovic
That's what he should have done.
He should have wrote a fake apology.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
We talked about him and how he was very quick to come out and say, oh, hey, I'm sorry, blah, blah, blah.
And then, of course, the leftists attacked him with renewed vigor because that's what they do as soon as possible.
brett dasovic
Because you admitted that you were wrong.
phil labonte
And so it's good that American Eagle hasn't said anything.
And it seems like they're not going to.
I imagine that they probably have more in this marketing campaign to come.
Not that I don't know that it will definitely be Sydney Sweeney, but I imagine more is going to come from this campaign.
And I personally, I can't wait to see it.
I hope that people have more meltdowns.
terrence popp
Well, it's free publicity for them.
brett dasovic
Yeah, but that wasn't enough.
terrence popp
Yeah, people are upset about our jeans.
brett dasovic
Five years ago, that wasn't enough, though.
Like five years ago, people would, you know.
terrence popp
Cancel you.
brett dasovic
Yeah, well, even the company would then come out and tuck their tail between the legs and give some type of apology that didn't need to be done.
Because when these companies do capitulate, it ends up being worse for them.
That's what happened to all of these fashion brands that ended up putting ugly models on their ad campaigns.
And then they all ended up, if not folding, they ended up losing huge market share.
unidentified
Really?
tate brown
It used to be like so demoralizing walking through a mall.
brett dasovic
I mean, you still kind of have to go into a fugue state to walk through them all, but...
tate brown
It's like a Costco when you're looking around.
I mean, what are we doing here?
tim pool
They have those stores, Torrid.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Which, what does that mean?
Horrid and terrible?
I'm not joking.
I'm torrid as like terrible and horrible.
terrence popp
Sounds like something I came up with.
tim pool
And it's for fat women.
phil labonte
Parched with the heat of the sun, intensely hot, scorching, burning, passionate, ardent.
tim pool
I thought it was terrible and horrible all at once.
phil labonte
It's not.
tim pool
That's the thing.
brett dasovic
What's that one with the fat models?
terrence popp
Well, the thing is, most of those fat acceptance models are passing away.
tim pool
Oh, it's true.
Oh, yeah.
You know what's really funny is my wife was telling me this because she is slim and she's like, I wear the same size every time.
And so she had a pair of clothes for a while and she was like, I really like these jeans.
I'm going to order them again.
She ordered the same size.
They were massive.
What the company did was because women's sizes are not uniform.
It's just like a six, a seven, an eight.
They increased the size but kept the number the same because women are getting fatter.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And so the prediction was a woman who was, you know, like a zero last year is going to be a one, and she's going to get really angry if she orders a zero and don't fit.
So just make zeros bigger, but keep calling them zeros.
phil labonte
You know, it really does speak about like the temperament of men and women because women's sizes are, you know, were you going to say the same thing?
Like the women's sizes are like just random.
It could double zero might be.
brett dasovic
They want to be lied to.
phil labonte
Yeah, they want to be lied to.
Whereas men, if you have a 34-inch waist, it is 34 inches because that's the kind of thing that men would expect.
34 inches makes.
terrence popp
So you're talking about the algebra woman sizing?
phil labonte
Yeah.
tate brown
You got to go to the big and tall section.
tim pool
Like AB squared minus.
phil labonte
It's like quantum mechanics because who ever knew that?
brett dasovic
And that's before you get into like European sizing, which is, of course, because they're smaller than Americans.
No, but like for me, so everybody who watches PCC knows like I have my long shirts, but like, I have specific brands that I buy.
And there was a point where I found these ones that I really, really liked, and I bought it in black and then like fit really, really well.
Bought two more, and by the time the company had grown and the complete cut of the shirt had changed, the sizing had changed, it was nothing like the one that I bought before.
But all they had to do is just tell me, like, it was a different size.
I would have just bought the different size.
phil labonte
It's true, though, but European sizing is actually different because I bought a pair of shorts that were from Europe, and there was my normal 30-inch waist.
And they're just, they don't fit right.
brett dasovic
A lot of the skate companies that I used to skate for used to brand in Europe and all of the, you'd have to buy, like, if you wore a large, you had to buy an XL.
If you were an XL, you'd buy a 2XL.
And they didn't even make ones bigger than that because there were no Europeans that fat.
phil labonte
Ridiculous.
tate brown
They haven't invented it.
Yeah, like some of these brands lean into it.
Like you're like a Tommy Bahama.
And they're like, here's the fat slob section.
Look, you know what's wrong?
tim pool
One that's really funny is a lot of people talk about how like, you know, Americans are so fat.
But having traveled the world, you guys see the portions are tiny in most places.
terrence popp
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
In America, it's just like, man, I go to breakfast and I can't believe the plate that I'm given.
You order a waffle and it's the size of the whole plate.
tate brown
Yeah.
You go to France, it's like, I'll have the full breakfast and they bring out like a croissant cigarette.
terrence popp
You could watch a lot of videos on YouTube where Europeans actually come to America and freak out of all the food and the portions.
unidentified
Yep.
tate brown
yeah And it is true our food is filled with a ton of chemicals, but like people will travel to Europe and be like, I ate whatever I want and I still lost weight.
I was like, because your portions were like a quarter of the size and you walked everywhere.
Like, of course you're going to lose weight.
brett dasovic
That's probably a big part of it, too, is this, whatever city you're in, you're walking to get everywhere and you're not driving.
tim pool
I think the reason Americans are getting fat is because of the internet.
There were a lot of people that thought it was like, you know, high fruitless corn syrup, artificial sweeteners and chemicals.
And I think it's the internet.
People don't go out anymore.
terrence popp
It could be a combination.
tim pool
Sure, but I think while the chemicals are bad, there are a lot of people who are not fat who eat garbage food.
So I certainly think it does contribute, but people don't go outside anymore.
So you used to have to walk places.
When I was a kid, if I wanted to do anything, we had the internet too, but the internet was on a computer.
And so you either had to stay home all day, which sucked, and we had dial-up.
phil labonte
So it's like we didn't have social media as well.
tim pool
I mean, we had AIM.
We had AWOL Instant Messenger.
And so you would see who was online.
You'd have this big list of people.
But we went out and did stuff.
So I'd get my skateboard and to go to the park, it was three or four miles every, like an hour and a half to get there, skating the whole way.
And then I'd get there and I'd be super, oh, I'm hungry.
And you'd go to 7-Eleven and I would get Taquitos and Milo.
You guys know what Milo is?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Like energy chocolate milk from Mexico or whatever.
Awesome.
brett dasovic
Even before I came to work here, where I was living in Minnesota, I did not have a car.
So I walked or biked to get everywhere.
And I was skating seven days a week.
And I had the same crappy diet then and was quite a bit smaller just because you were walking at least two to three miles every day on top of skating.
And then at the same time, I was like, now I go out and skate.
I'm like, why am I so sore when I start?
I'm like, oh, it's because I didn't just walk a mile to get here and stretch my legs.
But even in the summer, my weight fluctuates by at least 10 pounds because I'm getting out way more in the summer in the heat than actually sweating through it.
tim pool
Everything's at your fingertips.
You want food, groceries.
Yo, I go on DoorDash and I'll be like, I'm going to get some chicken wings.
And I press enter and then it's like, they will come.
And then it asks me if I need toilet paper.
It's like, hey, by the way, your driver can stop at 7-Eleven, pick up toilet paper, toothbrush, whatever you need.
brett dasovic
I started that with Taco Bell.
terrence popp
If you're eating real hot wings, you might need that toilet paper.
tim pool
That's right.
terrence popp
You might have to wipe your backside with ice cream.
tate brown
You order birds?
Do you want some Celsius just to forget this?
brett dasovic
I ordered Chuck E. Cheese pizza off DoorDash once.
tate brown
That's going to put you on a list.
phil labonte
One time I ordered off of DoorDash.
I've never spent so much money on cookies in my life.
Yep, ridiculous.
brett dasovic
Go and see the Chuck E. Cheese.
tim pool
Most people, I think a lot of people know this, but we were ordering from a local restaurant here for work.
I was like, I'm going to get burgers and salads and appetizers, and we're going to do a big order.
We do it periodically.
Sometimes every Friday, we order stuff.
But I was in this big order from a local restaurant, and the order was like $400 because, you know, well, we got a ton of employees here, and there's like 10 cheeseburgers, fries, 10 apps.
And when I went to press confirm the order, it said the restaurant was closed, which they are not.
And so I couldn't do anything.
So I was like, okay, I guess I'll call the restaurant.
And I said, hey, DoorDash says you're closed.
And they're like, we're open.
I said, can we do a delivery?
I said, sure.
I was like, well, I can't submit this because it says you're closed.
And she's like, read me your order.
And I did.
It was 200 bucks.
terrence popp
Wow.
brett dasovic
All delivery fees and surcharges.
tim pool
Well, it's like you order a cheeseburger from the restaurant and it's 10 bucks, you know, or 13, 14 bucks because like a restaurant burger, you order on DoorDash, it's 20.
tate brown
They're calling it post-DoorDash clarity when you realize you dropped 30 bucks.
You just have like a self-crisis.
terrence popp
What have I done?
tim pool
But it's okay.
Taco Bell's worth it.
tate brown
Yeah, that's true.
terrence popp
I like Dell Taco.
Oh, God.
tim pool
What about it?
phil labonte
Just they're delicious cookies.
tim pool
It's just their cookies.
brett dasovic
10,000 calories.
phil labonte
Yeah, they're cookie.
Well, the big ones are like $790 a piece, and then the small ones are actually only $190 a piece.
So if you get three of the small ones.
tim pool
No, America.
You don't need the cookies.
tate brown
And everyone, when you go into a crumble, everyone there looks like they're like cheating.
Like you see, they're cheating on the side.
brett dasovic
They're looking.
tate brown
They're like trying to keep their head down and stuff.
That's really sad.
tim pool
Have you guys ever been a sweet frog?
terrence popp
No.
brett dasovic
I am a red.
We regularly go to sweet frogs.
tim pool
I love it.
brett dasovic
Yeah.
tim pool
But I just got to admit, the smallest cup is what, like a pint?
brett dasovic
Yeah, but you don't have to fill it up.
That's the like.
tim pool
Right, but come on.
brett dasovic
Like, your brain tricks you into thinking you have to fill it up past the top of the pint.
terrence popp
No.
tim pool
It should be.
brett dasovic
The price is different depending on how much it weighs.
So actually putting less in saves you money, too.
tim pool
Dude, you know what?
You know what?
It's crazy because I can respect this to a certain degree, but every time you go to an ice cream place, at least out here, I'll say, I'll have a scoop of chocolate peanut butter.
And they give me like three scoops jammed into this thing, like bulging.
I'm like, I am not going to eat that.
I just wanted a little bit of ice cream.
I'm not eating a pint of Ben and Jerry's right now.
It's not happening.
brett dasovic
They would rather be yelled at by you than somebody who's like, this isn't enough.
tim pool
I mean, they're being nice, but like, yo, America, it's crazy.
Legit.
Like two scoops.
I went to Ben and Jerry's and I was like, I'll get the two scoop.
It was a pint.
I'm like, bro, this is like a thousand.
tate brown
You're getting crazy.
tim pool
Like 1,200 calories and like 300 carbs.
terrence popp
31 Flavors does that as well.
tim pool
And people love it.
tate brown
Do you remember the Froyo hustle back in the day when everyone, and you would like, you'd fill up the thing and then you'd get to the toppings and it'd be like, oh, yeah, I guess I'll put beef jerky on my ice.
tim pool
That's a sweet frog.
tate brown
Yeah, and then you'd get there and it's like $35 because they're like, that's sweet frog.
tim pool
You get a little cup.
They got all the things.
All the different flavors.
brett dasovic
A meat batter, a cake batter, Froyo.
tim pool
And then they've got this big old tray full of everything you can imagine.
tate brown
Yeah, like I'll put dog treats on it, I guess.
I don't know.
tim pool
I didn't even put yogurt in it one time.
I just was like copping.
Yeah, it was, no, it was like Snickers, bars, Reese's, whipped cream, and caramel.
I was like, I just want the candy.
tate brown
It's like, sir, how do you want to cut this?
That's how it goes.
brett dasovic
Yeah.
I go through the whole thing, and because I don't put any syrup on it, I'm like, I'm saving myself so much weight gain because I just don't put any syrup onto it.
phil labonte
The Klarna that was the finance your food?
Yeah.
Klarna.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
tate brown
Klarna.
tim pool
We're going to repossess that burrito.
What are you going to do?
Come on, Cutty, bro.
brett dasovic
When people talk about late-stage capitalism and then I hear about Klarna, I'm like, maybe, you know, like, I don't know if late-stage capitalism is actually a thing, but if people are financing their burgers, maybe that's what it is.
tim pool
I've gotten those before.
I can't remember what app it's on, but it's like, pay for your meal in, you know, four easy installments.
I'm not joking.
It's like four easy installments of $6.99.
I'm like, what?
phil labonte
Yeah.
tate brown
How do you fling into Columbia because like Long John Silvers is on their tail?
tim pool
Could you imagine like if you're about to get arrested?
I'm arrested.
You're about to get married.
You know, maybe there's some overlap there.
About to get married and your wife's like, you know, is there any like, hey, before we, honey, before we get married, I want to let you know that I hope this doesn't change anything, but I do have a lot of debt.
She's like, you do?
I'd be like, yeah.
And if you're going to marry me, this would cause issues.
But I thought it was important that I let you know.
What's the debt from?
I was financing burritos from Taco Bell a lot.
brett dasovic
Long John Silvers is after.
tim pool
I've got $3,000 in debt on back pay plus interest for all of the burritos I was ordering every day.
There's a burrito debt.
tate brown
Guy financing all the McDonald's monopoly tickets.
It's like a big racket.
You just get shot in a motel.
phil labonte
There's a Chiros.
I just can't say no to Cheros.
terrence popp
Aren't they suing a whole bunch of people trying to get the money back?
phil labonte
Klarna's going out of business.
unidentified
Yeah.
Really?
Yeah.
phil labonte
I mean, it should have been pretty obvious.
If you have to finance a burrito, you're not growing particularly financially literate people.
brett dasovic
And then people were doing like postmodern thesis about what it means to live in a culture with Klarna.
And I'm like, just, this is awful.
terrence popp
When I used to do mortgages, I would literally look at between three and 30 credit reports a day.
And some of the stuff that was on those credit reports, I'm just like, you got to be kidding me.
brett dasovic
Like what?
terrence popp
Collections for, you know.
A guy had a JCPenney account that was defaulted for like $26,000.
brett dasovic
It's like student loan debt.
terrence popp
What are you doing?
unidentified
JC Penny.
terrence popp
And JC Penny's for $26,000.
I'm just like, what?
And you have to call a guy and decline them.
And like, hey, man, you know, I can't do your VA loan for you on your credit score is really, really low and you owe like $26,000 to JCPenney.
tim pool
Should I do it right now?
I just checked.
I can Klarna a pizza.
tate brown
Can you please, can you please do that?
Can we please?
That'd be so sick.
tim pool
Should we finance a Papa John's cheese pizza?
phil labonte
Reinhance it for as long as you can.
unidentified
Like, not just like payments.
phil labonte
See if you can stretch it till December.
tim pool
What happens if you don't pay it on time, though?
brett dasovic
Because they come out like a huge interest.
phil labonte
Yeah.
I bet you could buy that pizza on Klarna, default on it, and it wouldn't affect your credit report at all.
brett dasovic
The driver comes back to pick the pizza.
tim pool
You've got a report on your credit.
What is it?
You owe $7 for a pizza.
I'd just be like, dispute.
Could you imagine Klarna being like, we're taking you to court over the $7.83 you have left on your pizza payments?
The court's going to say no.
The judge is going to be like, nah.
We're not taking this campaign.
terrence popp
We're not burning the time up for $7 for a buried dome.
tate brown
Just come back, your car is on center blocks, just Klarna carved into the hood.
tim pool
You're like, no.
phil labonte
This Klarna card was declined.
Sorry.
tate brown
Klarna Cartel is going to come after you.
tim pool
Okay, it says four payments made every two weeks.
phil labonte
Four payments?
tim pool
Okay.
On orders only $35 and above.
terrence popp
Oh.
phil labonte
Well, you know what that means.
tim pool
Pay off your cheese pizza over two months.
Does that include tip?
unidentified
Can you make like a tip that's really expensive?
tim pool
Oh, it's a 25.
Wait, wait, what?
No, it says zero interest.
Zero interest.
phil labonte
Well, that's why they're going under.
Wow.
They didn't understand how credit works at all.
tate brown
We need to do wellness check on Dave Ramsey as soon as possible.
Well, that dude's going through it right now.
tim pool
Should I do it?
Who wants a midnight cheese pizza?
phil labonte
Not me.
tim pool
I'm taking it home with me.
If I order right now, you'll get it here and take it.
tate brown
Let's do it.
tim pool
Let's see what happens.
brett dasovic
He's going to make me.
tim pool
My wife's going to be like, I'm going to go into debt.
My wife's going to be like, why did we get a bill for a pizza that's four payments of $3.97?
unidentified
Brett asks, so I co- Overleveraged on the stuffed crust.
phil labonte
For the show.
tim pool
Wait a minute.
phil labonte
Alison, it was for the show.
I got it for the show.
unidentified
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
tim pool
Hold on.
I think they don't even charge you initially.
tate brown
This is a disaster.
tim pool
Okay, no, you pay 25% up front.
Then you pay 25% in two weeks, four weeks, and six weeks.
phil labonte
That's hilarious.
unidentified
You have a month and a half to pay for a pizza.
phil labonte
This is weird.
tim pool
Late-stage capitalism, dude.
tate brown
Yeah, Uber.
brett dasovic
That's what it is.
tim pool
No, that's crazy.
phil labonte
It's not actually.
tim pool
I don't understand why not do it.
They're not charging me interest.
phil labonte
Because, Tim, you have the money for the pizza.
That's why not?
brett dasovic
Why not do it?
Hold on.
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
tim pool
I got an idea.
We should legit do this.
I'm going to order food using Klarna and the money that I would normally spend.
Check this out.
Okay, here's my plan.
I'm going to order $100 worth of food for the office.
$100 flat.
I'm going to finance it with Klarna.
Pay $25 up front.
Take that $75.
Put it in Bitcoin.
I'm just going to say in two weeks, take $75 out.
I'm sorry, two weeks, take $25 out and pay the next.
Then in two weeks, take $25 out and pay.
And then in six weeks, take the last $25 and see if I've actually made a profit.
phil labonte
You should ape into shit coins with it, is what you should do.
$75 on Fort Coin.
Letting it ride.
tim pool
Here's a funny thing because the way wealthy people play these games with stock loans is, let's say you have a billion dollars worth of stock and you can't sell.
You get a loan against it and the interest rate might be like 4%.
You then take whatever extracted, let's say you pulled out $50 million, invest it in something that generates above 4% and you're making a profit off the loans.
That's how they cycle this money.
phil labonte
That's what happened during the whole lot.
terrence popp
You're talking about margin training.
tim pool
Is that what it is?
terrence popp
Yeah, you trade on margin.
tim pool
So you're basically, yeah, like your loan interest is lower than the interest generated from the investment.
terrence popp
Well, typically if you're going to do margin trading, say you have $100,000, some institutions will let you do like 20% above that.
tim pool
I don't know if this is margin trading.
terrence popp
Well, the thing is they do charge you an interest on the margin trading.
tim pool
So a billionaire who has, let's say there's a guy who's got $100 million in stock in a corporation.
terrence popp
Or it could be arbitrage.
You can be doing that as well.
tim pool
I think this is arbitrage.
terrence popp
Okay.
tim pool
Maybe not.
Anyway, what they'll do is they'll say to a bank, give me a loan, a $10 million loan at 3%.
They say, okay.
They take $10 million.
They then invest it in something that guarantees them 7%.
So then they can pay back the loan at 4% with a 7% interest on the other money.
And so they're making money.
phil labonte
That's what was happening the entire time that we had zero interest rates from 2009 all the way until they started raising interest rates in like 2018.
And that's a huge part of the reason why income inequality is so bad nowadays.
terrence popp
Wow.
tim pool
Four dash arbitrage.
unidentified
Yeah.
brett dasovic
There is a coin called Klarna Burrito.
unidentified
Check it out.
tim pool
Here's the idea.
The prices of food fluctuate.
So what you do is you're going long on Chipotle.
You tell someone, I'll buy the food for you right now.
You pay me back next month for the full cost of the Chipotle, right?
So you basically finance.
You spend, let's say they do $100 at Chipotle.
You spend $25 now.
In one month when Chipotle is now 10% more, they got to pay you back $110 to which you use the money they pay you to pay off the rest of the Klarna.
That's right.
terrence popp
Yeah.
tim pool
Long.
What is that going long on Chipotle futures?
terrence popp
Listen, option trading is crazy.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Can we make an app that exploits Klarna in a way?
I'm not saying illegally.
Like so that people can short people's food orders.
Like are they going to pay it back?
brett dasovic
It's like the friend who's like, oh, I'll get lunch today and you make sure it's fast food.
But then when you go out to someplace nice, it's like this one's on you, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So what you do is you basically pull the big short.
You go to a bank and say, we want to create a way to short debt on Klarna for fast food because anybody who needs to finance fast food can't pay it back.
And so I guarantee you these are going to default.
terrence popp
Oh, yeah.
tate brown
You need to lose some weight.
You're just getting shorted into the ground.
terrence popp
all these big investments no the whole finance thing is crazy because you know in 2008 when the the market tanked I mean I saw that coming like six seven years prior because I should do those mortgages for people like oh your credit core his credit score is only what 560 yeah of course we'll give you $300,000 They were given loans.
Adjustable.
phil labonte
Yeah, they were given loans to people that had no jobs.
unidentified
Correct.
phil labonte
No income.
It's called liar loans.
terrence popp
I got one.
phil labonte
What was it called?
terrence popp
Liar loan.
phil labonte
Liar loan.
terrence popp
When I first got divorced, I was living in the street for a while.
I got back in the Army, called a buddy of mine because I used to do mortgages.
He's passed away.
But I remember like, hey, he goes, well, you have income?
I'm like, I just started.
Well, okay.
What's your credit score?
It's like 813.
Okay.
Literally, you're just like, I make this much money and here's your mortgage.
Now, luckily, I was able to refinance it because those are usually adjustable.
tim pool
Yeah.
terrence popp
You know, usually two years and then you get hammered.
unidentified
Yep.
terrence popp
And I rolled, after one year, I just rolled it into a VA and.
unidentified
There you go.
phil labonte
That's what caused the 2008 crash is all of these adjustable rate mortgages.
Just, you know, the rates changed and people couldn't make payments.
tim pool
We're going to go to your chats, my friends.
friends so smash the like button share the show with everyone you know that uncensored portion of the show will be coming up at 10 p.m. at rumble.com slash Timcast IRL this story is not for the faint of heart you're gonna get very very angry and people are gonna say some very naughty things about it so this one will be for the uncensored portion but I recommend you guys come and watch at again rumble.com slash Timcast IRL at 10 p.m.
For now we're gonna grab your chats and rants all right Shane Wilder says hey Tim, what is the name of that fish joint in Martinsburg?
As an aside, I saw that rock store in Frederick Mall where you procured a few geodes for Ian.
I was like, I've seen this place before.
The rock store at the Frederick Mall is awesome.
It's the best store ever.
They sell rocks.
brett dasovic
Every time I go by there, I'm like, I remember the time you bought the lady who worked there, like the, like, was like a $700 rock or something.
tim pool
It was a $700 rock.
brett dasovic
She's like, the lady's like, I've always wanted this rock.
And I'm like, that tracks.
I suppose if I worked at a rock store, I might have like a white whale rock that I wanted.
tim pool
And then I said, I'll take it and you can have it.
And she was like, what?
It's a $700 rock and it's yours.
And they were like, wow.
But the rock store is really cool.
It's like very educational and the kids can crack geodes.
And, you know, Ian cries every time we go because he just loves rocks.
You know, and he's special.
So as for the fish joint in Martinsburg, my friends, if you find yourself out here or if you're born in a weekend and you're not too far away, Mother Shuckers, it's amazing.
Not only is the food incredible, but it says FJB on their door.
I know, I know, it's old, but it checks out.
And they've got a bunch of pro-Trump memes and stuff everywhere, and they're unashamed.
And it's a good spot.
It's very lively.
And their wings are some of the best I've ever had.
And I like it in scallops.
It's a great spot.
terrence popp
Scallops are good.
tim pool
Scallops are incredible.
Especially there.
They nail it.
They get it.
It's good.
terrence popp
You've got to try this place you speak of.
tim pool
Yeah.
I mean, if you're out here, I don't know what their hours are.
I think it's like on weekdays, they open at like 4 p.m.
terrence popp
Okay.
tim pool
So it's hard for us to get there, but when we do, we do enjoy it.
And then I guess I mentioned them before, and then people started showing up.
And so when I went back, they were like, we ate, everything was fine as we were walking out there.
I just want to say thank you because people are coming in.
I was like, oh, you know, right on.
Glad people are coming.
Yeah, it's a good spot.
And then it's funny.
There's a Thai food restaurant in Winchester called Sabai Thai that we go to.
And I didn't even realize that we talked about it.
But apparently people have been going there like crazy.
And they were like, we've been really busy because they said you mentioned the show and I was, or you mentioned the store.
unidentified
And I was like, oh, I mean, it's really good.
tim pool
It's the restaurants we like.
tate brown
Remember that?
terrence popp
Oh, word of mouth word.
tim pool
I mean, we live around here.
And so we've tried all the restaurants.
I'm not going to recommend a place we don't like.
You know what I mean?
terrence popp
I'm the same way.
tim pool
Yeah.
So I don't remember the places we don't like because we don't go back.
phil labonte
That makes sense.
tim pool
Indeed.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Suze McCarley says, Pop, Pringles, tell the story.
terrence popp
Oh, my God.
tim pool
Is it a naughty story?
terrence popp
It's, yeah, that's for the uncensored.
tim pool
Let's go.
terrence popp
Listen.
All right.
Thank you, Suzy.
I appreciate it.
unidentified
Oh, my God.
tim pool
Big Country Breakfast says, I know someone in the Danville rumor mill.
She says it's a lover's quarrel.
Vogel got with the attacker's wife, something like that.
That's what people are saying.
Cosmic Spook says, I'm from Danville.
Lee was having an affair with Shoddy's wife.
terrence popp
Listen, I've been in that situation, and it's ugly.
And emotions run thick, and judgment gets cloudy.
tim pool
Man.
NNY says, yeesh, go camping on bike two weeks, come back, harass Brett and Phil on PCC, watch Happy Gilmore 2 laugh a lot, tune in, see this headline, let me back into the bushes now.
Happy Gilmore 2 was funny, but it wasn't a movie.
brett dasovic
It was just all cameos.
tim pool
It was memberberries.
Like, the plot makes no sense.
It's just...
I have no problem saying this to the world and to everybody.
I am better at making movies than literally anybody ever.
I just have never been given the opportunity.
terrence popp
Fair enough.
tim pool
I'm half kidding.
I always leave movies being like, it would have been better if they did this.
Here's my pitch for Happy Gilmore 2.
And I'm only talking to Brett because he's the only one who ever knows what I'm talking about.
His wife should have died from cancer.
brett dasovic
Why?
tim pool
The idea that in the first Happy Gilmore movie, he's a miscreant, loser, and he overcomes all of his problems to save his grandma.
He becomes a hero, underdog story.
They said, okay, we're going to write part two.
In fact, erase the victories of part one, make him a loser, make him even more of a loser.
And the stakes now are that it's not really that important, but he's a loser.
And I'm like, no, no, no, hold on, man.
We loved Happy Gilmore because it was comedic, it was funny, and he was the underdog good guy.
Shooter was the bad guy.
He kills his wife because he hits a drive and then she chokes on the ball and dies.
And I'm like, okay.
And then he spirals out of control, destroys his life, and loses his grandma's house.
And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no.
Part one ended with him saving his grandma's house.
They could have had it be a bit more touching in that he still had her house, he still lived there, and he retires from golf after his wife dies of cancer.
And then it's not that he's a loser.
It's that circumstances beyond his control have challenged him, and we want to see him get back on the horse.
Instead, now he's a loser.
He killed his wife.
He lost everything.
He lost grandma's house.
He never fights to get it back.
He ignores it completely.
Shooter's a good guy now for no reason.
He enters the plot randomly for no reason.
brett dasovic
Which is weird because the Shooter McGavin account on X is a villain account.
It's one of the best villain accounts on X. Yep.
And you're right.
Like a movie like that benefits from a certain level of earnestness that it's not willing to use as like the foundation for the film.
tim pool
Ben Stiller was underutilized.
He basically cameos and there was a recurring theme in the first movie where Ben Stiller was abusing his grandma.
That was the point.
He needed to rescue his grandma from this horrible situation and get her house back.
And he was only doing it to help somebody else and he was kind of a dick.
brett dasovic
We'll really know comedy's back if they'll make like a sequel to Heavyweights with Ben Stiller.
Like then when you can make fun of fat people again in the movies, that's Tropic Thunder is Ben Snow said he'll do it and so did so did Robert Downey Jr.
He said he'll do it.
I mean I don't think they ever will but yeah.
tim pool
Dude, one of the best movie scenes ever filmed is when Matthew McConaughey calls or he comes in screaming at Tom Cruise and he gets the call from the Viet Cong or whatever.
brett dasovic
I think Tom Cruise would do it too.
tim pool
This is Red Dragon.
Oh man.
terrence popp
The thing that really freaked me out is when you saw Tom Cruise's hands.
It's just like, look at those meat pumps, right?
What is he a super plumber or something?
tim pool
I got a hot take before we go to the next super chat.
The dark universe should not have been canceled.
I was so excited.
brett dasovic
You mean the like his monster universe with Tom Cruise?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
They should have never canceled it.
brett dasovic
I mean, nobody went to see the movies.
tim pool
That's the marketing problem.
The idea is fantastic.
The idea is Universal owns the classic monsters, Wolfman, Jekyll and Hyde, Dracula, the mummy.
And they were like, let's make this a universe where the through line is the manifestation of evil.
And then they were like, they did one movie with Tom Cruise.
It's okay, C ⁇ , enjoyable, but I'm excited for the concept.
And they just abandoned the whole project.
brett dasovic
I think it's because people thought they were going to, like, you can't recreate what happened with Brendan Fraser's mummy because it's a completely different movie.
And people went into it thinking they were going to get something along those lines.
tim pool
To be fair, it wasn't the mummy.
brett dasovic
No.
tim pool
It's like some woman with demon powers and then Tom Cruise fights her.
brett dasovic
Yeah.
tim pool
But it's a movie.
I guess they tried too hard to make it superhero-ish.
brett dasovic
Yeah, well, he was trying to follow the Marvel formula.
tim pool
Yeah, but just make the dark universe.
Like, make it, because it was really cool how Russell Crowe, I think it was Russell Crowe, right?
terrence popp
Dr. Jekyll, Mr. Hyde, yeah.
tim pool
He played Jekyll, and then he's got like the CRM to stop.
And then when he transforms into Hyde, it was really well done.
I was like, he stands straight up.
He doesn't actually change physically.
He just asserts his posture, and then his accent changes.
He's just beating the crap out of Tom Chris.
brett dasovic
I mean, I loved it.
If they were going to do that now, they should be getting Robert Eggers to make that movie and get a different actor.
tim pool
Hey, you know what, man?
brett dasovic
I think they are making a new mummy with Brendan Fraser, too.
unidentified
What?
brett dasovic
I think so.
tim pool
No.
brett dasovic
Let me double check on that.
tim pool
He's going to have to drop 100 pounds.
phil labonte
He's already lost the movie.
brett dasovic
He's already lost Elite.
tim pool
Wow.
I will absolutely see that movie.
I will see it twice.
Like Mummy 4.
terrence popp
Brendan Frazier a couple years back.
tim pool
He's back?
terrence popp
No, no.
I did a video on him.
tim pool
No, I'm saying like right now he's like getting in shape.
terrence popp
Yeah, he's coming back.
tim pool
I will see that movie three times.
brett dasovic
In development April of 2026.
terrence popp
Wow.
tim pool
I will buy three tickets for one.
Oh, I know.
I love the mummy movies with Brendan Frazier.
If they have him back as the character where they can give him like a wig or something.
brett dasovic
I mean, maybe they just let him age.
Like, you don't put him in the wig.
You just let him age.
tim pool
That's fine.
If he gets in shape and he's aged and they do his character justice and they do him as an actor justice, they don't do some stupid, it's a cameo and then he leaves.
brett dasovic
Yeah, he better not be passing the torch because they have actual torches in those.
I don't want him passing a real torch.
tim pool
I bet they do that.
brett dasovic
That'd be stupid.
tim pool
He's like, take this.
All right, all right.
Let's grab some more of these.
Mason, M93 says, nobody has as many friends as Hillary Clinton had friends who killed themselves.
terrence popp
Pretty much.
tim pool
All right, let's see.
Gitchy says, don't mess with jinns.
I've seen videos of Middle Eastern urban explorers checking out haunted places, and we'll have an entire boiler thrown at them from across the room.
terrence popp
I've seen those videos.
They're pretty convincing.
tim pool
Really?
terrence popp
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
Like, djinns attack them in the Middle East?
terrence popp
Well, it's more like ghosts, but that's what they call them in the Middle East.
tim pool
They call ghosts jinns?
terrence popp
Yeah.
tim pool
But a jinn is a reference, like an interdimensional being or something, like an entity of some sort.
terrence popp
Well, in a D ⁇ D sense, yes.
But in the Middle East, you talk about a ghost, they just call it a djinn.
tim pool
But they don't literally mean someone who died and came back.
terrence popp
Well, that's, I mean, that's exactly what they say over there.
tim pool
Oh, really?
terrence popp
Yeah.
unidentified
Weird.
tim pool
Thinker for Life says in ancient times, there was a demon goddess named Ishtar.
This demon goddess was a man and a woman and celebrated their birthday for the entire month of June by parading and beating drums in the streets.
That's not true.
brett dasovic
Wait, say it again?
tim pool
They said, Ishtar is a demon goddess who was a man and a woman, and celebrated their birthday for the entire month of June by parading and beating drums in the streets.
brett dasovic
It has to be a woman because they're the ones who celebrate an entire birthday month.
tate brown
Yeah, really.
tim pool
No, they're making a point about Pride Month.
brett dasovic
No.
tim pool
So I'm saying I don't believe that's correct.
But who am I to judge?
terrence popp
Most dudes on their birthday usually go out and buy their own stuff.
unidentified
Yeah.
terrence popp
That's what I do.
brett dasovic
Somebody asks you what you want for your birthday.
You're like, crap, I don't even know.
tim pool
Man, why?
tate brown
How do you know it was my birthday?
tim pool
I'm watching YouTube erase super chats in real time.
That's weird.
unidentified
Ooh.
terrence popp
Wow.
tim pool
Yeah, what's up with this?
tate brown
Anyway.
tim pool
Here we go.
Quinn says, have a Pringles can for the popster.
terrence popp
Oh, my God.
tim pool
We'll save that for the after show.
unidentified
Wow.
terrence popp
Oh, my lord.
tim pool
You guys are all expect for me when I'm all spam blasting in the super chat.
Pringles.
There's like seven Pringles, Pringles.
Jason Dixon says, hey, Tim, look, 61 months, bro.
Incredible.
I appreciate it, man.
And I saw your super chat, but YouTube deleted it.
You said elite membership.
All the cool stuff was basically shut down.
You know, let me tell you, because we were trying to open a physical location for the elite membership, that was the plan.
That was the pitch.
That we were going to create a space digitally first.
Elite membership on the website is privy to access.
But the manifestation was going to be we're going to have this club where you get elite access to, and it's literally only going to be like 100 people.
And then the city basically blocked us from doing it.
We sold the building and we're trying to figure out what we do next.
So let us figure that out for you guys.
And the other thing, too, was we were supposed to have dedicated seats at these events coming up for elite members that are, like, preferred up front and, like, VIP access stuff.
So I think what we might do is, like – because the venue is not that big.
Maybe when we have a bigger venue with, like, 1,000 seats, we can – But I don't know if we can do that because it's not even a backstage.
It's literally a hallway that leads to the stage.
So we don't have anything like that.
But we will figure it out.
We'll figure it out for you guys.
We'll figure that one out.
Warpig says, we lost dueling, but now we have president and FBI protecting pedos and calling anyone who cares about it weak and stupid.
You know?
Not wrong.
Yeah.
Houston Ducks.
I can't read that word.
I don't know what that is.
Yep.
Can't read that.
Let's see what we got going on.
Jay says, my wife and I continue the tradition by tuning in to Tim Cast IRL from the hospital as we welcome our first child to this world.
Welcome our daughter, Angel Grace.
Keep up the great work.
I have news.
My baby was laughing for the first time today.
phil labonte
Nice.
terrence popp
How old is your child?
brett dasovic
What was five months?
Yeah.
terrence popp
Congratulations.
tim pool
She was pulling on my wife's hair, and I started laughing, and then she was sitting on my wife, pulling on the hair, and then she started laughing.
And then we were like, holy crap, she's laughing.
And it was like, it was a weird laugh.
terrence popp
It's the best.
brett dasovic
She was laughing.
It's a good humor, guys.
tim pool
And we were like, whoa.
And then I was like, I tried pulling her hair again.
I'm like, look, I'm doing it too.
Laugh more.
And she just smiled.
So big update.
Big update.
phil labonte
It's awesome.
tate brown
It's big.
tim pool
Yeah, big update.
It's interesting because she has said hello before several times.
We were on vacation.
I can't, was it Memorial Day or something?
And Richie was there.
He witnessed it.
And I asked her, can you say hello?
And she went, hello.
terrence popp
Wow.
tim pool
And Richie went, oh my God.
And I was like, she said it.
But now she won't.
Now she just does gibberish and she just screams in the morning.
So it's like I wake up at 6.30 of her just going, babbling.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then my wife is like all tired looking and she's like got this look on her face.
And then I look over at her and I say, I couldn't sleep because of the angels singing.
unidentified
And then she rolls and starts laughing because she's so tired.
terrence popp
The babbling will continue.
And right before they start talking, you will get harshly yelled at by your own child in a language you can't understand.
tim pool
Oh, that's happened already.
terrence popp
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, so we were doing tummy time, and at first, she would just start crying when it was too much.
Just bawling.
And then once she got to the babbling phase, when she was doing tummy time and it was too much, she would go, and we'd be like, oh, we get it.
But now she has no problem sitting up, and she's now sitting up.
She's not sitting up on herself, but she can, in the crawl pose, but she can't actually crawl.
She can spin in circles.
terrence popp
My oldest daughter used to follow me around the house and scold me in a language I could never understand.
I'm like, what?
Okay.
tim pool
It's good stuff.
All right, let's grab a couple more here.
Captain Wrinkle says, I'm a skeptical believer.
I believe, but also think 99% of ghost reports are BS.
Shadow people have already been explained, but your theory of souls lingering till their time to leave comes is pretty cool.
Yeah, I had a free horror movie idea for Pureflix.
Is that what it's called?
That's the Christian streaming service.
terrence popp
Okay, okay.
tim pool
Because there's no way to make this movie tastefully.
The idea of the movie was opening scene.
It's late night in an office, and there's a woman in the corner office working, and a guy is turning the lights off, and he leans in and says, staying late tonight again, Sarah.
And she goes, yes, I've got to finish this report by the morning.
And so just leave the hall light on for him.
He goes, you got it.
And then he turns the rest of the lights off, and she's sitting there typing away.
And then all of a sudden, from the shot of her at her computer, you see a silhouette figure walk past the door and you hear the noise.
And then she looks up and she goes, excuse me?
And then she gets up and then she walks over and she tries to turn the light on, it doesn't turn on.
And then she sees a silhouette figure walk through the office, passing through, just disappear behind a wall.
She's like, um, is somebody in here?
And then she goes back in her office and starts grabbing her bag, getting to leave.
And then all of a sudden the silhouette figure is at the door and it's like a grayish silhouette.
And then it starts to walk into the room and she freaks out, drops her phone, and it's a white silhouette figure and just looks at her and goes, and then the movie starts.
And the plot is, souls must exist on earth for a set timeframe.
And so you cue the scene where the guy's telling her, like, more and more of these sightings are popping up all over the country of these strange figures appearing in buildings and they look like people.
And then this guy, it's a homeless guy, and he's like, he's telling her as the cars are crashing and he's like, a soul must be on earth for its time.
When a soul is created, it's typically around 70 years.
So if the person is killed when they're too young, their ghost lingers.
That's how you get hauntings.
But what happens with all of the abortions?
There's no ghost.
There's no adult form.
So they are faceless, amorphous silhouettes of people that never had a physical body.
So while ghosts look like what they were in real life, and their souls linger until the soul expires, all the aborted babies are lingering around as identity-less, weird, white-looking figures everywhere because of how commonplace abortion has become.
terrence popp
That is so grim.
tim pool
Yeah, there's no way to do that for a mass audience.
So it's a pure flicks idea where like pro-life crowd clumps of ectoplasm then?
terrence popp
I mean, I like where you're talking about.
tim pool
No, they're ghosts, but they don't have like a ghost of a person looks like the person, right?
But because the babies are killed before they have physical human form, adult human form, the soul manifests as a blank white, empty shell.
And it doesn't communicate.
It doesn't do anything humanly.
It has no consciousness or identity.
It never, but the soul exists.
And they're all trapped on earth for their, No, they haunt the point of the opening story where the woman is the businesswoman, and it's because that would have been her son.
And so it's filling, it's acting out its life what it would have been coming to see her if she had not decided to get an abortion to be a girl boss.
So that would offend every liberal and Hollywood times 10, and they'd reject it and never go see it and then call it fascist propaganda.
terrence popp
That's typically what they do to silence you.
tim pool
But that's my movie idea, and anyone is free to take it and make it.
So there you go.
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terrence popp
Yeah, I appreciate all my fans leaving super chats and comments.
I was not really planning on telling the Pringles Can story, but thank you very much for that winning.
Not really, but you'll get your wish.
tim pool
Right on.
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Let's go, ladies and gentlemen.
Are you ready?
Before we get into the Pringles can, whatever that is, how would you like to be so angry you punch bricks?
phil labonte
Can't wait.
tim pool
TMZ has the story, which has been going viral for some time now.
phil labonte
Oh, okay.
tim pool
Child sex offender brings home baby boy via legal loophole, and they're on video kissing this child, and they should be in jail.
phil labonte
See, this is the point where the wood chipper that was referenced earlier in the show on the main portion would be handy because those guys are disgusting.
tim pool
This is so fucking insane.
phil labonte
They should die.
tim pool
TMZ reports.
brett dasovic
Is this a surrogacy thing?
tim pool
Yes.
TMZ reports a man revealed to be a child sex offender got a baby boy at home.
They said they've learned there was nothing to block him because it was a prosecutor say the best solution is changing the law.
He was, let's see, this is TMZ reporting this.
I will say nothing.
Pennsylvania man named Brandon Keith Mitchell went viral this month over videos he shared on social media showing him and his husband kissing a baby boy.
The couple got ripped by right-wing activists, and then folks discovered Mitchell is a registered sex offender who was convicted of child sexual abuse and possession of child pornography in 2016.
Mitchell and his husband crowdsourced money a couple years ago to help them pay for a surrogacy, and they found a surrogate who they say gave birth to their baby boy, and they've since been documenting their surrogacy journey.
Folks on the internet are voicing outrage and concern, but we've learned there is nothing expressly prohibiting a registered sex offender from becoming a parent through surrogacy under PA law.
Tim Barker, the DA for York County, tells TMZ, I thoroughly appreciate the concern and outrage emotions expressed by many that a loophole exists in the law to allow a registered sex offender to become a parent through surrogacy without the same intense scrutiny, accountability, and judicial oversight mandated for the adoption process.
Mitchell lives in York County, and the DA says he completed his probation parole in 2021 and has not been alleged to have violated any conditions regarding his sex offender registration, and there have not been any criminal charges or allegations against him.
phil labonte
Okay, so I take back my earlier desire for immediate murder.
But I do think...
tim pool
Purchasing of babies should be illegal.
phil labonte
Yeah, I do think that they should not be able to have a child, especially if he's a...
tim pool
Formula is a lie.
phil labonte
Sex offender.
tim pool
I'm going to say it again, formula is a lie.
And there's a lot of people who...
Look, I'm going to tell you guys the harsh reality.
We had to use formula.
We've not been using any formula in the past several months.
I think only the first month, really, we needed to use some formula.
We have to use goat formula because baby can't handle cow.
So this was an issue for us.
But we have tried in every circumstance not to use formula because formula is corn syrup garbage that they give to kids.
I've been told that even the European stuff, they're like, it's way better, and that's what we should be getting.
So I looked, same garbage.
It's not real.
Babies need boob milk.
terrence popp
Yes.
tim pool
They need it.
They can't live without it.
And formula is a...
Formula will allow a baby...
It's like...
Formula, in my opinion, is starving somebody but giving them enough food so they don't die.
It's not got what baby needs.
And I did not know this until the doctors and the pediatrician said the composition of boob milk changes based on the saliva of the baby.
terrence popp
I never heard that.
tim pool
Yep.
They were explaining that premature babies, mother's milk will be much fattier, and you'll see a layer of fat on it.
terrence popp
Well, there's colostrum in the beginning as well.
That boosts the baby's immune system.
tim pool
The baby's saliva makes contact with the nipple, sending information to the breast, and it changes what the breast will produce for the baby.
tate brown
It's like a Coke freestyle machine.
unidentified
Yeah.
terrence popp
Yeah.
tim pool
Indeed.
But for babies to live.
tate brown
Babies, yeah.
tim pool
So when these gay men are buying babies, they can't give the baby adequate nutrition.
They can give it generic bullshit.
So I'll tell you a story to break this down.
That fucking company, Soylent.
Do you guys know about Soylent?
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
So I remember when Soylent came out back like 12 years ago, the idea was, can we make a drink that replaces all food?
Guess what they found out?
No.
And the reason why is every human being is a different size.
There is no circumstance in which humans are identical, even identical twins.
Identical twins are overwhelmingly identical, but they still have different bodies because they eat at different times and they eat different food, causing different cellular development.
So they found that when they tried creating a one-size-fits-all drink, different people had different fat requirements, different magnesium requirements, and they said, okay, this doesn't work.
So they abandon it.
When you do formula for baby, you are basically saying, I am trying to give you a one-size-fits-all food, but it doesn't have everything the baby needs.
Breast milk, however, alters its composition based on the baby's saliva to make sure the baby is getting exactly what it needs.
If it's more protein, more carbohydrates, sugars or whatever, or fats, the breast will produce that for the baby.
Plus, it transfers important immune system information for the baby to keep them from getting sick.
So when gay men are buying babies, they have to give them formula, and the baby is going to be stunted and sickly.
Or more likely to be.
terrence popp
It's going to start off at a disadvantage.
tim pool
Substantial disadvantage.
terrence popp
That's not fair.
tim pool
I think it's – I am disgusted at the idea that when two gay men impregnate a woman with her egg, and it is her baby that grew in her body from her egg, and then a gay man pays her money to take the baby from her, that is shockingly evil in my opinion.
tate brown
Well, it's crazy that it only took 10 years from a Bergefall to child sex offenders purchasing children.
I mean, very predictable – I mean, I come from the Christian community.
We all called this, and no one listened to us, and we're being vindicated every time a story like this drops.
Just, I mean, beyond – the fact that – problem with prostitution as well is the same problem with surrogacy, is you're putting a price tag on consent and a price tag on motherhood, and that's demonic.
tim pool
Who's that female comedian?
Is it Whitney Cummings?
Is that her name?
Yeah, she said having a kid makes you conservative.
tate brown
It's true.
tim pool
At least in that capacity.
tate brown
She didn't need a gun after she.
tim pool
Yeah.
Because she was like, you'll see an animal and you're like, I got to shoot that.
It's going to hurt my kid.
And then she's like, no, I don't mean I'm actually conservative.
No, but I'll tell you this.
I was somewhat surrogate neutral.
I was like, yeah, I don't like the idea.
And then I had a kid and learned about how babies need breast milk and not formula.
And I was like, okay, now they're actually physically abusing the kid.
Like, I'm sorry.
I know you're not beating the child.
That's not the same thing.
But babies need the breast milk from the mother.
And if you take the baby from the mother and pay her money, you are abusing that child.
That is abuse.
We used to have wet nurses.
terrence popp
Yep, before the whole formula thing.
tim pool
Yep.
terrence popp
You'd have wet nurses.
tim pool
And they're called, what are they called?
Milk siblings.
Kids who shared the same mothers, but were so one, there would be three kids in a group, and there'd be two moms.
And when one mom was not available, the other mom would breastfeed her children.
And that was called a milk sibling.
Now you go to the Walmart and you buy corn syrup for your baby to drink.
I'm not kidding.
It's all corn syrup.
All of it.
All of it's fucking corn syrup.
terrence popp
It's horrible.
tate brown
It's like powdered vegetable oil or something like that, hydronated, whatever that means.
tim pool
I was pissed when I found out because my wife was like, hey, we need formula.
It can't be the cow stuff because a baby can't digest it.
And so then I went and I started looking at the ingredients.
I was like, I'm not fucking giving any shit to my kid.
Holy fuck.
terrence popp
It's weird how it changes you once you have a kid.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
Like we went to a mountain.
My wife likes to bike.
And I was like, I'll watch the kid.
You go, you know, bike ride because she's been working really hard.
And I turned the TV on and I was like, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope.
And you know, I settled with golf.
tate brown
There you go.
tim pool
Yeah.
I was like, okay.
I was like, let's see.
Maybe like, you know, Nick Jr. or something.
It's fucking psychotic.
If it was a little like blue chipmunk and it was like A, B, C, D, I'd be like, eh, okay, I guess.
It wasn't.
It was psycho-deranged acid trip bullshit where there was this pink, pink fucking raccoon and it was making waffles and it was like, the waffles have waffles.
And I was like, what the fuck?
I am not letting my kid watch that.
Psycho fucking acid trip shit.
terrence popp
Barney was my vein.
tim pool
Oh, fuck that.
terrence popp
Barney drove me crazy.
As soon as I'd heard it, I'd be like turn it off.
tim pool
All right, here we go.
Similac, non-fat milk, lactose, high olex safflower oil, whey protein concentrate, soy oil, coconut oil.
Okay, here we go.
Galacto oligosaccharides.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Less than 2% of schizochitrium oil.
Wow, that's a hell of a tree, I guess.
M-al-pina oil, beta-carotene is fine.
Luten, potassium citrate.
A lot of these are just vitamins.
Salt, taurine, inositol.
That's a sugar, isn't it?
It's not so bad, actually.
It's not as bad.
I still don't want my kid drinking it.
Soy oil.
tate brown
Soy oil?
It's very on the nose.
tim pool
Actually, I'm fairly impressed.
There's no corn syrup in it.
terrence popp
Well, the thing is, those oils are highly inflammatory.
unidentified
Yeah.
terrence popp
So you can be priming your child's immune system to attack itself later on in life.
tim pool
Kendall Mill.
They say this is one of the best.
What's their ingredients?
Let's see.
Ingredients.
Organic grass-fed whole milk.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
Organic demineralized milk whey protein powder.
Organic vegetable oils.
Sunflower, coconut, and rapeseed.
Organic skimmed milk.
Organic galacto oligosaccharides.
I don't know what that is.
I'm not going to immediately just condemn something.
I don't know what it is.
No corn syrup.
unidentified
Okay.
All right.
tim pool
I'll give you that and then a bunch of vitamins.
I still say no to all the weird bullshit.
Yeah.
Anyway, Pringles can.
terrence popp
Oh my God.
I thought it was going to slip by.
All right.
All right.
I'll tell the Pringlescan story.
All right.
So I did 33 years in the Army, you know, in total.
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