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tim pool
Before we get started, there's a tsunami advisory for Hawaii.
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This is breaking just as we're getting started for the show.
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In the meantime, we're going to be talking about things that are substantially less relevant, but still relevant to the culture.
And that is South Park's latest episode, though not out.
They put out a trailer, and Cartman is Charlie Kirk.
Now, this matters, my friends, because it basically means, I got to say it, I know the left is going to whinge and whine about it.
Feels like we won the culture war.
That's it.
They didn't make a single episode about Joe Biden or Harris.
Now they're making episodes about Charlie Kirk.
Charlie made it.
Charlie Kirk changed his profile picture to that of Eric Cartman.
And I'm pretty sure South Park is older than Charlie Kirk is.
Easily.
Several years, in fact.
So it's pretty crazy to see that Charlie, TPSA, Trump, and this independent media space has become substantially more relevant than any other cultural reference that South Park could be mocking right now.
That could be a sign of the collapse of society, or maybe we've just won.
So we'll talk about that.
Plus, it looks like Stephen Colbert is trying to get fired.
Yeah.
At least it's a Time magazine that's saying he's basically begging to get fired by attacking his network mercilessly.
We'll talk about that.
And then we've got an interesting story.
I covered this in my morning show.
It's the Timoran New York City conspiracy theory.
While Eric Adams, the mayor, and the media have reported that this guy in New York in this mass shooting had a note in his pocket, a letter saying that he was targeting the NFL.
There are many believe that his true motivations was targeting Blackstone.
Blackstone has granted, the president of Blackstone gave the largest donation to Tel Aviv University in its history.
Not to mention one of the women, the executive that was killed, was a Jewish philanthropist.
And so some believe that this may have been motivated by this globalized Indifata movement.
The target that he went to was actually on a list of targets put up by these activists.
It's maybe conspiracy theory.
Nobody really knows for sure what this guy's motivation was, so we'll go through that.
And plus, we've got a bunch more stories to get through.
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much what we got, Steve Cortez.
steve cortes
Thank you.
Thrilled to be here.
First time.
First time.
Appreciate it.
Thank you.
unidentified
Who are you?
tim pool
What do you do?
steve cortes
So folks probably know me if they've seen a lot of cable news television over the years.
I think I'm one of the only people, I think maybe the only person who's been a paid contributor to the top four cable news networks.
So yes, I actually worked for Fox News as well as CNN.
My time at CNN, by the way, was at the request of President Trump.
I deserved combat pay because behind enemy lines, it was not fun.
I essentially did then what Scott Jennings does now.
The reason that Donald Trump asked me to do that is because I worked on his campaigns in 2016 and 2020.
So I'm a TV spokesman.
I do media messaging, helped direct Hispanic outreach for the Trump campaigns in 2016 and 2020, worked for outside groups on behalf of Donald Trump in 2024.
And currently I'm doing short documentaries, writing a lot of articles, still doing a lot of TV appearances and shows like yours, and promoting the message, getting ready for 2026 to try to win the midterm.
So I'm a campaign guy at heart, but care a lot about policy too.
tim pool
Right on, thanks for hanging out.
We've got a lot.
He's hanging out.
elad eliahu
Good evening, everybody.
Mr. Cortez, we're really happy to have you on tonight.
I've seen a lot of your work before, so really excited to get your expertise on a lot of different topics tonight.
I am Tim Cast's White House correspondent and field reporter.
Phil, how's it going?
phil labonte
How are you doing, everybody?
My name is Phil Labonte.
I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains.
I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary.
Let's get into it.
tim pool
Here's the news.
I call it news, but sure.
We got this from the post-millennial South Park features Cartman as Charlie Kirk in a new episode.
And Charlie Kirk has changed his profile picture to Eric Cartman.
This is amazing.
It is crazy to see that CBS is spending $1.5, what is it, $1.5 billion on this.
So that $1.5 billion, $30 million per episode.
And who is their target?
It's obviously Donald Trump.
He's the president.
But for Charlie Kirk, congratulations, man.
You made it.
It's wild because I'm pretty sure South Park is older than Charlie is.
unidentified
Yeah.
steve cortes
By the way, so a huge win for Charlie Kirk, Chicago boy, like we are.
We love to see Chicago boys do well.
But more importantly for the country, you know, I think the point is here, you're right.
We are winning the culture war, right?
When South Park feels that they need to mock a show host and a campaign operative, albeit a super important one, like Charlie Kirk.
Also notable, CBS.
Let's remember, CBS had to pay a significant settlement to Donald Trump.
I think a huge, huge win for accountability.
I think one thing Trump is bringing in this second term is accountability, whether it's accountability for media, whether it's accountability for people who perpetrated the Russia hoax, but accountability.
You know, so many Americans have been so frustrated because we've been told lies time and again and just told, you have to accept it and you have to pretend it's the truth.
Well, we're done with that.
And Trump's the leader of that counter revolution of saying, no, there will be revelations, there will be transparency, and there's going to be accountability.
phil labonte
So I'm interested, I want to push back on that idea that the right is winning.
And only because I feel like the MAGA coalition is not just the right.
So what would you say to someone that said, maybe the right isn't winning, but the left is losing.
The left has lost a lot of people that used to be, the normie Democrats are leaving the left en masse.
And you've got a lot of people that were Democrats in the 90s that actually kind of created and started the meta coalition.
So what would you say to that?
steve cortes
No, listen, I think it's both, right?
And to me, it doesn't have to be either.
I don't think it has to be binary.
It can be both and.
Clearly, the Democrats have become so radicalized in the 2020s that they are totally inhospitable and unwelcoming to normal people.
And I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that.
So it's one of the key reasons that they've lost the working class.
It's not just about the economy.
That's key.
But it's also cultural issues, right?
I mean, a lot of working class people are highly religious.
They believe, for example, that there's two sexes.
I mean, go figure.
They don't like the Democratic Party that is obsessed with pronouns and forcing gender ideology and other crazy Marxist ideas down their throats.
phil labonte
35% approval rating, like record low, I think.
unidentified
Record low.
phil labonte
It speaks to that.
steve cortes
Yeah, all-time low.
Now, not all of them are MAGA populist right people, right?
Some of them are, though, too.
And some of them are also, it's not just the negative of being repelled by the Democrat Party.
They're also attracted to a vision of muscular populist nationalism, right?
And I believe that that's why right now, for example, in polling, and I do a lot of polling, Trump's best issue by a lot is immigration.
It's where the media attacks him the most, right?
And they think they're going to make hay, and yet it's actually his strongest issue.
Because guess what?
Controlling the border doesn't just make sense for our national security and our street safety.
It's a huge economic issue.
Working class people know they're having to endure unjust, unlawful competition in the labor market from millions and millions of illegals, and they've had enough of it.
elad eliahu
I think one of the things that Democrats are particularly shocked by, and maybe you could speak to a little bit more on this, is that Hispanics seem to be not as unsympathetic towards other Hispanics Being deported, that maybe Democrats would have thought.
So, in the past, Democrats thought immediately if Trump were to increase funding for ICE and increase deportation numbers, that this would harm him with those communities.
Maybe can you speak on that?
As I understand, you did Hispanic outreach on one of the Trump campaigns.
steve cortes
Yes, yeah, actually, both in 2016 and 2020.
No, I think this is one of the most amazing stories of the populist right movement, of the MAGA movement, is Hispanics coming en masse to the political right.
And I think it's a lasting movement.
But to that point of sort of the, let me give the evidence.
Last November, Trump nearly won Hispanics.
We know this from the Pew Validated Voter Survey.
He did win Hispanic men.
He won Hispanic men nationwide.
In the key areas, he won the overall Hispanic vote, like South Texas, a place that used to be overwhelmingly Democratic.
Star County, for example, which is 97% Hispanic, most Hispanic county in America on the U.S.-Mexico border.
Hillary Clinton won it by 60%, 6-0 back in 2016.
Trump won it by 16 this time.
I mean, that's a mammoth move in just three cycles.
And his signature issue is immigration.
You know, so to your point or your question about, you know, are Hispanics soft on the border?
No, they actually believe in, again, a muscular vision of sovereignty.
They know that it protects their jobs or street safety.
And by the way, down there in Star County, one of the things I heard, I made a documentary down there, I heard time and again, everyone has a friend or relative that works for Customs and Border Patrol down there because it's the most Hispanic agency of the federal government.
elad eliahu
What do you think then caused that huge swing among Hispanics then?
I don't know if you think it was immigration.
Is there a particular issue that you think Democrats just absolutely dropped the ball on to reaching out to these voters with?
steve cortes
It was cultural radicalism, cultural liberalism from the left.
So that was the sort of negative force draining away Hispanic support for the Democrat Party, which traditionally was super strong.
And then on the positive side, it was this vision that we will make life better for workers.
It was a priority on workers because Hispanic men, for example, highest workforce participation rate of any group in America, something we should be really proud of.
The most entrepreneurial demographic in America.
We love to start new businesses.
And Donald Trump came along and said, I'm going to make working class people the priority.
I'm going to prioritize small business.
And by the way, he didn't just say it.
He delivered in his first term.
2019, by any metric, was the greatest year for workers in all of American history.
Unfortunately, the COVID panic totally interrupted that progress.
But 2019 is when we saw worker pay soar above inflation, meaning real wages accelerated.
And the people who benefited the most were Hispanics, blacks, small business owners, all thrived.
And so we've built this broad MAGA coalition now that's multiracial, multi-ethnic, and even geographically spread out, right, to the point where Trump was able to win the popular vote based on this vision.
So now it's his job and our job to deliver on that promise again in the second term.
tim pool
And now it looks like South Park is targeting the independent media space.
It's targeting the coalitions that helped Donald Trump get elected.
Fascinating that Charlie Kirk, with his campus outreach, is now a focal point for South Park.
I'm curious what you think it means.
You know, aside from all the obvious general stuff, we had all these victories.
Colbert gets canceled.
$30 million an episode gets given to South Park, and they immediately say, okay, we got to go after Charlie Kirk.
We got to go after Donald Trump.
Sounds to me like the anti-Trump machine that was spending the equivalent of one WNBA per year.
That's what Sam Tripoli calls it.
He calls it one WNBA per year to fund Colbert's show.
And they said, we're not going to lose that money anymore.
It's $40, $50 million.
They give $1.5 billion to South Park.
So I don't know how much money South Park is making.
I can't imagine that it's making, it's making a lot more than Colbert.
Let's be real.
But to cover the cost of $1.5 billion sounds to me like they said, go after the right and do it in a non-woke way because woke is broken, woke isn't working.
It seems like with the Sydney Sweeney ad, you know, they're realizing, okay, if we want to win power back, we got to get rid of this weird hall monitor garbage and try and be edgy again.
So they're trying to now make the right once again the butt of the jokes.
What do you got?
Do you guys agree?
elad eliahu
I think being featured on South Park is a form of respect, even if they are insulting you.
So to even be mentioned, I think, is a form of respect.
It's not other influencers or I don't know what we want to call Charlie Kirk political commentators who are getting raffered.
tim pool
Charlie's probably the most prominent conservative in the country right now.
phil labonte
Look, you don't get on South Park if you are irrelevant.
If you're not actually relevant to the culture, whether you're getting hate or, you know, especially when it's politically charged, you're going to get hate from the left.
That comes with the territory.
And South Park isn't going to take the time to not only put you on the show, but make Cartman the guy that's playing you in the show, make Cartman one of the most important characters.
Generally, Cartman's looked at as the guy with the bad opinions, but even still, he's probably the funniest guy on South Park because he's the guy with the bad opinions.
So yeah, whether you consider it a sign of respect or not, it just shows that Charlie's actually really hit a chord with pop culture.
tim pool
Charlie is, in fact, older than South Park.
I didn't realize.
He's 31.
Oh, yeah.
I thought he was in his late 20s, bro.
steve cortes
But it's a great point, you know, because in politics, I'm a messaging guy, right?
A media guy.
In politics, to be ignored is death, right?
So being attacked can be very powerful.
And it's smart of Charlie, by the way, to embrace it, to say, heck yes, yeah, I'm Carbon.
I'll make it my profile pick, run toward it, and revel in it.
tim pool
That's why I say this is cultural victory.
The fact that for the longest time, they were heavily criticizing independent media or just treating it as irrelevant.
They were trying to just act like it was all corporate press.
Now they're starting to recognize the real threat to their system is Charlie Kirk.
It's independent media.
And so the guys here are telling me that we're going to be made fun of by them at some point.
I'm like, I don't think so.
I don't know that we're that relevant.
phil labonte
Fingers crossed.
tim pool
Fingers crossed.
phil labonte
Goals, yeah.
tim pool
But I did always wonder about that because, you know, watching Family Guy or South Park or these other shows, they don't really talk about Rogan, right?
Clearly one of the most influential guys, if not one of the most influential in politics, whether that's intention or not.
They don't make it the butt of their jokes.
They still talk about late night TV.
It's funny when you watch these shows and they'll make fun of Colbert or Kimmel, and it's like those guys get a couple hundred thousand hits.
So I'm wondering, we'll see, I guess.
elad eliahu
Can I say one last thing on this, though?
I do have an inkling that we are being trolled.
Matt Stone and Trey Parker have a reputation for like making episodes like a week out or six days out from being able to air.
And they also said at Comic-Con that like the last promo that they made was just a bunch of random fake cutscenes that they spliced together because they didn't have enough time to create the actual episode.
So like in the past, they've always waited for like the deadlines to do this.
And it did look just like a random bunch of BS cutscenes thrown together.
At the same time, I don't know who's writing whose coattails because they definitely knew that this would go viral on the political right.
So we'll see if the episode ever comes out.
I just wanted to add that in there in case we are getting trolls.
tim pool
So here's what I want to mention.
Did you guys know that there's never been a single episode of South Park targeting Joe Biden or Kamala Harris?
elad eliahu
I was literally irrelevant.
tim pool
Joe Biden was vice president for eight years and he was president for four.
And South Park did not ever mock Biden or Harris.
And according to social media reports, I asked ChatGPT, it says the creators opted not to target Harris in the 2024 cycle.
phil labonte
Wow.
tim pool
Funny.
How about that?
steve cortes
Well, and in both cases, I mean, so much to make fun of, right?
I mean, so much material there.
I mean, in terms of Biden, his stumbling around, right?
The clear cognitive issues.
And it's not like, oh, they were trying to be, they thought that was mean, right?
They have no problem being mean.
And with Kamala, her word salads, right?
All the rumors about her drinking.
I mean, there's so many things that he could do, that they could do, right?
To dive in and be really funny in castigating these two.
And the fact that they chose not to is pretty telling, right?
elad eliahu
But their detriment.
Like, what's worse as a politician to be hated or unknown and to be unknown as you mentioned earlier?
tim pool
That's why I'm saying it's funny because, you know, everybody's favorite Sam Cedar and all these liberals are like Tim Poole having a meltdown over South Park.
I was like, I actually praise that.
I said they were funny.
I just said that the jokes were, the jokes they chose to go with were like C-minus jokes.
They do this episode about, I'll give them this.
You know, South Park does an episode mocking Trump, and what's the joke?
He's gay.
And he's with Satan.
And I'm like, I'm pretty sure every conservative is going to agree with that message about being gay as being devil worship or satanic and to be mocked.
Like the idea that the way they make fun of Trump is to make him gay.
steve cortes
Right.
tim pool
It's like, yeah, okay.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
Being gay is something to make fun of, I guess.
South Park, if that's like they attack the trans people, now they're making fun of Trump saying, ha ha, look, he's gay.
unidentified
And it's like, okay.
tim pool
All right.
Like, this is where.
Think about this for a second.
Our culture, the culture war has shifted so dramatically that if it is true that Paramount is trying to be anti-Trump in a non-edgy way, they, they, like, the Sydney Sweeney ads, hilarious.
They're basically like, let's just get like a white blonde chick with big boobs and we're going to sell a bunch of, a bunch of merch, a bunch of clothes.
It sounds like Paramount was like, okay, hall monitor, anti-racist, none of it worked.
What do we do?
And they're like, you've got to be offensive and edgy.
So they've decided the strategy is going to be to make fun of people for being gay, to make fun of trans people.
That's why I'm saying it feels like maybe we have not won the culture war, but we're certainly winning when their attitude is we have to make fun of Trump.
How do we do it?
Well, we can't call him racist or white supremacist because people don't respond to that.
Make fun of them for being gay.
People don't like that.
steve cortes
Right.
tim pool
All right.
Okay.
steve cortes
Nature is healing.
I mean, particularly the Sydney Sweeney ad, right?
I mean, that tells us like nature is healing.
Okay, we're going back to what we know works, what has worked for time immemorial, right?
Like men love beautiful young women, especially if they're doing something funny, right?
I mean, you know, nature is healing.
tim pool
It's happening.
I'm loving the meltdown, too.
Let's jump to the story from time because it gets better.
Stephen Colbert is practically daring CBS to shut him down early.
Yeah, you can say that.
Here's the way I'm going to describe it.
Stephen Colbert is having what can only be described as one of the most epic temper tantrums ever seen in American public life.
I mean, dude, you got canceled.
And Time magazine says that he's basically just going nuts on every single episode, going so heavy against his network that he's daring them to shut him down.
And I'm like, no, he's having a mental breakdown.
Like, imagine dedicating 10 years of your life to being on the wrong side of every single issue.
And then finally, the network comes to you and says, you are fired.
And not only that, think about it.
Colbert goes to his agent and says, what can I do after this?
And they're like, nothing.
Your whole career for 10 years is Trump is bad.
That doesn't sell anymore.
You are not a brand we can hire.
And so he's having a mental breakdown.
Do you blame him?
phil labonte
I mean, look, what was it?
The protest about him drew like 20 people, I think, something like that.
I forget what the name of the protest or whatever was.
It drew like 20 people.
He doesn't have the audience.
And there are two things going on with the Colbert situation.
First of all, he doesn't have the finger on the pulse of what is relevant anymore.
Just going after Trump doesn't sell, clearly.
But also, he's done this in a climate where people don't watch television anymore.
They don't watch late night shows.
All the late night shows are down.
And granted, it's down because of the content, but it's also down because Netflix is a thing.
And Paramount has their own channel.
And Disney has their own channel.
And YouTube, and all of these other options that people have.
If they don't like exactly what you're producing, they're going to go somewhere else.
And so in this climate to try and alienate half the population, it's a recipe for disaster.
And I think Colbert's just the first one.
I think more are going to fall.
Yeah.
steve cortes
You know, if you look in totality, for the first time now, streaming has surpassed linear television, right?
Both broadcast and cable put together.
It's been trending that way for a long time, but those lines have crossed, right?
So to your point That he was fighting uphill anyway.
But when you fight uphill and you're just a scold and you're not funny at all, and you don't even try to be funny in a show that's supposed to be about levity and it's supposed to be sort of a break, let's have a laugh before you go to bed.
I mean, that's traditionally what late night TV was, and it was really unifying in America at one point, right?
Sort of the legends of late night, like Johnny Carson, they made fun of politicians occasionally, but they were very bipartisan, right, in their barbs.
And it was great for America, and Americans loved it.
Now, instead, you know, we get this scold who is lecturing America, and Kimmel's the same, right?
I mean, unfortunately, you know, that late night mold has become a bunch of lefty nags, and nobody likes it, and nobody wants to hear that, especially before bedtime.
So thankfully, it's not working.
tim pool
200,000 people in the key demo like it.
Yeah, well, that's nothing.
3 million boomers.
steve cortes
Right.
tim pool
That's the crazy thing.
The one age demographic from the Real Clear Politics aggregate that was anti-Trump, they went, it was 20 to 29.
It's, you know, 30 to 39.
The only decade, the, you know, age bracket was 70 plus that was anti-Trump.
Everybody else was pro-Trump.
And they're watching Colbert.
steve cortes
Yeah.
tim pool
And that's all they get.
It's remarkable.
I can't imagine what must be going through the mind of your 75-year-old watching Colbert who's thinking, wow, look how bad Trump is.
How could anyone like him?
And then Trump wins the popular vote.
steve cortes
Right.
tim pool
Weird reality.
elad eliahu
It's kind of sad because I don't know if I'm the only one here, but I used to like his show like a decade ago, the Colbert Report, before he did the late night show.
tim pool
It was normal.
elad eliahu
I don't know if I'm a sucker here because it was kind of just like a parody of Bill O'Reilly.
I don't know what they were.
I think that was the angle there, but I thought that was like really rich and funny.
And like, I don't know.
I was very young at the time too, but just to see this complete transformation, to see him be, I don't know, unrecognizable.
He's a total actor, though, and you don't really know what you're getting with this guy.
Like, I don't know who the real Stephen Colbert actually is.
When we do see him behind the scenes, we see him dancing with Chuck Schumer.
So I'm just led to believe that he is a Democrat.
He's also a practicing Roman Catholic, and I think he spoke about significance of that.
phil labonte
That's why his work.
So pro-choice.
elad eliahu
I feel like it's so interesting to see the ways that Catholicism manifests in our politics because when I hear about Catholics mostly, you think of like the J.D. Vance types who not too long ago converted.
But I feel like the average Catholic in our country is probably closer to Stephen Colbert, frankly, for all I know.
tim pool
To be fair, I don't know.
steve cortes
Let me back on that because I know these numbers are cold.
As a matter of fact, I just gave a speech on this topic last week in my work for Catholic Votes.
So Trump carried Catholics by 12% nationally this time, and he tied among Catholics against Joe Biden.
So one of the key reasons he did not win that he was not already president in 2020 is because he tied.
Now, Joe Biden, of course, presented himself as a Catholic president, as a Catholic candidate.
I think it's a bunch of baloney, right?
But nevertheless, it worked with a lot of Catholics.
Trump won Catholics by plus eight in 2016, tied in 2020, plus 12 this time.
So the reason that he won the national popular vote is Catholics coming his way.
Catholics are sort of the swingiest vote and also just a giant cohort.
There's over 50 million Catholics in America.
So I would say Catholics have moved way more toward Trump than they are toward Colbert.
elad eliahu
But here's what's pretty much.
tim pool
Can you be pro-choice and be Catholic?
steve cortes
No, not legitimately.
tim pool
So the point that he's making when he says Catholics are closer to Colbert, they're not Catholics.
elad eliahu
People who identify themselves as Catholic.
I think we get into like murky territory where we're judging.
I'm not one to judge if somebody is authentic.
And you were careful with your language there, speaking about Joe Biden's religion.
You said like, what was it?
Not pretending, but not identifying.
Presented.
That was the word you used.
Presented as Catholic.
Do you not believe that, I don't know, that he is truly?
Because, I mean, I'm even looking at Stephen Colbert when he had the cross for Ash Tuesday.
steve cortes
Ash Wednesday.
elad eliahu
Ash Wednesday.
It is.
So like, I feel like the average person who believes themselves to be Catholic in this country is pro-choice.
steve cortes
Okay, yes.
This is an important distinction.
So by the way, those numbers I just gave you are people who identify as Catholic.
And again, that's from the Pew Validated Voter Survey.
So that's people who identify as Catholic.
Trump was plus 12, right?
That is not any reflection on whether or not they practice what they actually believe, right?
That's not judging their Catholicism.
It's just saying, do you identify as Catholic?
That's it.
Trump won plus 12, won overwhelmingly.
If you then break it down to practicing Catholics and say, okay, do you go to church at least twice a month or do you believe in certain issues?
Well, then Trump's percentages shoot into, I mean, he's literally in the 80s or even 90s.
You know, then they poll and vote a lot more like evangelicals do, you know, frankly.
So when you, yes, there's a big difference between sort of cultural Catholics who identify as Catholic, but don't necessarily practice the faith and then actual practicing Catholics.
And they obviously vote very differently.
But the point is when we group them all together, they have massively moved toward Trump, toward America first.
And by the way, also on immigration, because the Catholic bishops have been very, very anti-Trump, very pro-illegal migrant.
The Catholics in the pews simply don't believe that.
I mean, again, just the election last November, but also all the polling shows that.
So it's a significant issue and it's a fascinating issue.
But when people like Colbert and Joe Biden try to wear their Catholicism on their sleeve, I think believing Catholics recognize immediately that that's just, it's complete hypocrisy.
It's not genuine.
It's not accurate.
And they're trying to do it for either political or media benefits, not from their heart.
elad eliahu
If I could have one follow-up on the Catholicism issue, because I do think this is really important, how it manifests in our country.
And as I understand it, because again, I'm Jewish, so I'm a thousand miles away from this.
There seems to be a disconnect between global Catholicism and the Catholic Church and like those at the top compared to those in America.
I don't know, is there a unique brand do you feel as though there's a unique brand of American Catholicism or does it manifest differently than the ways it manifests in South America or even, I don't know, out in Italy at the Vatican and how the Pope speaks about these issues?
Because writ large, as I understand, very pro-immigrant sentiment.
And, you know, and that's different as I understand American Catholics' believings that manifests.
So I don't know.
Does that make sense there?
And observing a real phenomenon.
steve cortes
No, it's an excellent.
Look, when you're talking about a faith with over a billion adherents that's truly global, of course, there's a massive amount of diversity and complexity, and a lot of it's geographic.
The American, practicing American Catholics politically are definitely to the right of most of the hierarchy in Rome.
I mean, that's just a fair objective statement to observe.
But it's also fascinating that we now have an American Pope for the first time ever, which I think Most American Catholics, most Americans, period, thought was an impossibility, thought could never happen.
And he doesn't exactly seem to be right-wing, or I wouldn't call him conservative, but compared to Francis, massively so, right?
And certainly not anti-American in any sense.
You know, somebody who came from Chicago, who came from the United States and loves this country.
So it's an interesting moment.
And when you have an American Pope and you have at least the potential for J.D. Vance, our deeply Catholic vice president, to become the president of the United States, perhaps, coming up, it's interesting.
There's an American Catholic moment that's pretty historic.
elad eliahu
Catholics have come a long way in our country.
Maybe because, I don't know, the history of Catholics here, they used to be persecuted here, so obviously came a long way.
Sorry for you with us.
We were pivoted hard there.
tim pool
Yep.
Anyway, Stephen Colbert, wow, he's crazy.
elad eliahu
Crazy Catholic.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, he's.
tim pool
Definitely not.
phil labonte
Look, if you're going to say you're a Catholic, but you don't do the things that Catholics do, then you're not a Catholic.
People should be judged by their works, not by their words.
It's very easy to give lip service to whatever it is, you know, to a religion or what have you or to an ideology, but what people do is what they really believe.
And if you are voting for people because you think that it's important for abortion to be legal, that is not a Catholic.
And I'm not even a Catholic, but it's pretty easy to tell.
tim pool
Let's jump to this next story, my friends.
Ladies and gentlemen, I'm going to start off by saying this.
Israel, as far as it goes with PR in the United States, is cooked.
Seth Meyers gets serious in call for USA to Gaza if even Trump acknowledge their starvation.
It's long past time to act.
We are appalled by the unspeakable horrors currently unfolding in Gaza.
This coming from late night with Seth Meyers.
And I don't care what you think about the whole issue.
What's fascinating to me is that corporate liberal media activism is anti-Israel.
Donald Trump is critical of Israel right now on social media.
There's a massive spattering of anti-Israel commentary on the rise.
And I've been saying this for some time now, but with this, this to me is the nail in the coffin for pro-Israel sentiment in the United States.
I don't see how you recover from corporate left, woke left, and dissident right all being critical of Israel and the minority faction trying to be pro-Israel.
phil labonte
I mean, look, the whole like, even if Trump acknowledged their salvation, it kind of fits the leftist narrative about Trump.
If he's actually Hitler, siding with Gaza makes more sense than siding with Israel, doesn't it?
tim pool
The left siding with Trump is strange.
phil labonte
No, I mean, this is the point.
tim pool
If Trump does it, it's wrong.
This time, Trump is not wrong.
Seth Meyers is agreeing with Donald Trump on the issue of Israel.
When that happens, and what we're seeing with Gen Z, plus, didn't Charlie Kirk do like some sit-down with Gen Z guys about Jews?
And it's, I think the narrative is there.
steve cortes
Yeah.
tim pool
This country is, we looked at the Pew Research data.
The key demo is anti-Israel, left and right.
And now Trump is actually seeing Seth Meyers agree with him.
steve cortes
Yeah.
I think where Trump is right now, which I totally understand, is he is seriously pro-Israel, but he's also very frustrated with Netanyahu, which I think is totally understandable and justifiable at this point, right?
That Netanyahu has been, you know, at best, a difficult ally lately.
And I think that's why Trump is where he is.
Now, what you're talking about, though, Tim, with Gen Z is, you know, they're not where Trump is.
They're actively anti-Israel.
It's an entirely different point of view and worldview.
And I do think, look, if I were Israel, I'd be concerned about this because the United States is obviously its most key ally.
And when you look at young Americans, they are very disaffected with Israel right now.
And I think people like Netanyahu need to ask themselves why and how can they try to change that because they're not only trying to please their own people, but also the United States.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, look, Israel has done really poorly when it comes to the narrative, you know, the online narrative kind of whatever you want to call it, about the Gaza war or the situation in Gaza.
I particularly, or I personally don't put a lot of credibility in things that are coming out of Gaza because I don't trust Hamas.
And Hamas is still the authority in Gaza.
But Israel is definitely, you know, flattened cities in Gaza.
So if you're going to initiate a war like that, you have to be prepared to produce propaganda that supports your position.
And Israel has not done that.
They've really dropped the ball on that.
What do you got to say there, Elad?
Come on.
I know what you're thinking.
elad eliahu
I think despite media narratives and media spins and fake news coming out of Hamas that the Israelis should not be dissuaded from finishing the job in Gaza.
tim pool
They'll just have to do it without our money.
elad eliahu
With or without our money, I think.
tim pool
Agreed.
elad eliahu
And Russia needs to finish the job.
tim pool
And they'll have to do it without our money.
That's the point.
elad eliahu
Well, right now they're doing it with our support.
tim pool
And I'm saying my point is it's gone.
I don't see how this sustains itself when Pew Research puts out this data showing 53% of people in the United States have a negative view of Israel.
And it is so, I don't know what the right is, it is so extreme that Seth Myers has said Trump is right.
Like when you get liberal late night talk shows being like, wait, Trump's actually right about this.
It's like, wow.
Holy crap.
elad eliahu
So like if the difference is, you know, good media coverage and your state constantly being at risk and bad media coverage and security for your state, I think Israelis should pick the latter.
It seems as if they're not.
tim pool
Agreed and then we stop paying for it.
Because when the American people, when the sentiment continues to spoil, is the point, right?
When the sentiment continually goes negative, members of Congress are going to be like, I'm not going to be on their side.
I'm going to get blasted in my meetings.
So I'll just come out against them.
Then when it comes for the vote, look at AOC.
She voted to provide defensive funding for Israel and they attacked her for it.
So we are getting very, very close in the next few years to U.S. Congress being like, we are no longer going to risk Our seats in Congress for supporting a foreign country.
elad eliahu
I may submit to you that may be true.
I think polling on this is fickle.
I think we're being manipulated by false images that, for example, the New York Times, New York Times even came out today and described some of their images as being incorrect or putting them up with misleading information about it.
But I think Israel should continue fighting its battles despite that.
I think there's been a long history.
tim pool
I hear you, but you're not addressing what we're talking about.
elad eliahu
No, I am.
I said, despite...
I think they should do things despite the bad media coverage that they're getting.
You're saying that they're losing support in the United States.
tim pool
My point is that it is now the popular mainstream near of the United States that Israel bad.
elad eliahu
I don't think that's as true as people in the media will likely believe that.
tim pool
I'm not making this up.
Pew research.
53% negative view of Israel and getting worse to the point where Seth Myers is agreeing with Donald Trump.
You then changing the subject to Israel should continue its war.
It has nothing to do with the content.
elad eliahu
No, so despite it becoming increasingly partisan of an issue, I think the Israelis should continue to finish their work in Gaza.
tim pool
In which case, if your argument is that they're putting up fake images or whatever it may be, that means just Israel's losing.
elad eliahu
I just don't think that the Israeli government should be swayed by bad media coverage.
steve cortes
Let me ask you this, because I fully agree that Israel should do whatever it thinks it needs to do in its national security and its defense of its citizens, right?
Absolutely.
But the state of Israel has now existed, the modern state of Israel, for 80 years.
Should it continue to receive benefits and aid from the United States when the average Israeli lives better than the average American right now?
This is a sophisticated, wealthy country.
Aren't they capable now of standing on their own two feet and handling their own security without American charity, essentially?
elad eliahu
So I'll answer that in a very honest way.
So for the past 40 some odd years, we have been significantly supporting the state of Israel, but it's existed the 40 years prior to that without our support, actually, from originally support from the USSR.
And I will say, I will push back against the Israelis are living better than us Americans.
Socialized, we don't have socialized health care in America because socialized health care is actually bad for people.
People don't get good coverage through their socialized medicine.
People in Israel, I know we like to say that we don't want, wait, if I can finish, that we don't want Americans dying in Israel.
I know you didn't say that, but that's a common sentiment.
I feel like it's so ironic given it's one of our only allies that actually has a military draft and actually routinely fights their own battle.
People in the military, the Navy, in the Army, in the United States actually respect that of Israelis, that they actually do fight their own wars.
So we give benefits to a lot of different countries, and I think people tend to single out Israel for one reason or another.
We currently have 30 some odd Americans sitting as cannon fodder right now in South Korea.
Their sole purpose is there to be cannon fodder.
The same thing in Germany.
steve cortes
I don't know why should we go down those countries.
Yeah, absolutely.
elad eliahu
No, I mean, well, I'd just respond to that by saying I think Americans benefit immensely from both soft and hard power.
We are the global shock callers, and it's to the benefit of Americans.
And I feel like that really embodies the American spirit, too.
I think American hegemony is good.
And if American hegemony retracts, it's going to be other communist Chinese influences or Russian influences or Islamist influences that fills the gap is my wider perspective.
tim pool
I think over the past couple of years, there's been a narrative battle happening in the United States on the issue largely of Israel.
And Israel's been losing and losing.
It's been getting beaten mercilessly in this narrative machine.
And that's it.
I predicted, what, 10 years, especially with Gen Z's view of Israel, there's not going to be any more foreign spending for this country.
elad eliahu
I think there's such a contradiction between the far left that hates Israel and the far right that also dislikes Israel, because they hate Israel for so many different reasons.
The far left in our country largely hates Israel, as I understand, because they view Israel and Israelis and Jews as white people, and they view the Palestinians as brown, and they project their racial biases onto the Israeli conflict as such.
And that's really all they see.
There's also like this socialist tinge of the far left socialists believing that Jews are landlords and inherently privileged, and then being against Jews writ large for that purpose.
And then on the far right, they hate Jews for, or hate the state of Israel for totally different reasons.
They're not projecting any racial, you know, what about Seth Meyers?
I don't know why Seth Meyers is.
I don't even know what he actually said on the issue.
tim pool
The narrative is that Israel is starving Gazans.
Well, and so they need humanitarian aid because Israel's cut off their access to food.
elad eliahu
Look, I think that Islamists are really good at manipulating impressionable Westerners.
I think Hamas knows exactly what they're doing.
tim pool
And Israel's really bad at countering it?
elad eliahu
No, I think that Hamas is willing to use dead children for their political gain.
They actually want more dead children to occur.
They want to hide behind these people so when they inevitably do get attacked, that they could parade these dead bodies around.
I think it's actually disgusting, and it might set the stage for future enemies of our country trying to use these tactics.
It's disgusting.
tim pool
But my point is that Israel seemingly is incapable of defending itself from these psyops.
elad eliahu
I mean, if Israel is losing this war right now, then I don't know what, you know, whenever.
tim pool
Again, we're talking about media optics in the United States, and we're talking about the president of the United States agreeing we need food banks set up in Gaza because of what Israel is doing.
He says he's fed up with Netanyahu.
Seth Meyers agrees with him.
The point is they've lost the, you're calling it a fake campaign and propping up dead bodies.
So if it's a SIOP, they've been defeated.
elad eliahu
I think that Islamists are effectively manipulating impressionable Westerners.
Yeah, and it's a big issue.
phil labonte
You think it's just Islamists?
elad eliahu
I think those are the people in the Middle East who are manipulating those sentiments.
Yeah.
Very cynically.
And I think Western liberals are very easily manipulated, frankly.
phil labonte
Yeah, I do think you have a point about Hamas.
Like, Hamas is not where you should be getting your information about the war in Western.
elad eliahu
Well, these are just poor brown people that white people are abusing.
And then they, you know, they self-loathing.
phil labonte
Hold on, hold on.
That's broadly a leftist perspective.
That's not so much about the Islamists or Hamas.
Hamas globs onto that narrative because it's effective in the West.
But if there was another, if they were talking to people that aren't in the West, they just call like, they just call The Jews, demons.
You know, like if you're talking to people in Kazakhstan or whatever, because there's a lot of, you know, there's a lot of places where Israel and Jewish people are looked at as the bad guy.
I mean, you look at the joke in Borat, throw the Jew down the well that you see in the song.
Like that's something that's all over the world.
And the way that they use the narrative in the U.S. is one thing, but to them, it's not about any kind of political or that kind of dynamic at all.
tim pool
I want to jump to this.
We have breaking news, ladies and gentlemen.
When the show first launched, we mentioned there's an 8.0 earthquake near Russia and that there was a tsunami, not a warning at the time, but what do they have it listed as?
I forgot what the issue was.
It wasn't a warning.
But now we've got a tsunami watch for Alaska, and they've upgraded the earthquake to an 8.7.
It's big.
So my understanding is an 8.7 is exponentially larger than 8.0.
Fox Weather says parts of Alaska are under tsunami warnings while the entire U.S. West Coast and the state of Hawaii are under tsunami watches after a monster 8.7 earthquake struck off the east coast of Russia.
We've got this tweet here from Space Weather News.
You know him, you love him, Ben Davidson.
Says after a magnitude 8 earthquake near Kamchatka a few minutes ago, the entire North Pacific is vibrating.
Yo, this is crazy.
And then, of course, this breaking news came in just about 20 minutes ago.
USGS has upgraded it to an 8.7.
Grok says the magnitude scale is logarithmic.
An 8.7 earthquake releases 11 times more energy than an 8, with ground motion roughly 5 times stronger, making it significantly more destructive, especially for tsunamis and damage in populated areas.
So this is absolutely insane.
And I hope everybody's paying attention because, again, it was like an alert earlier for Hawaii, and now it's a watch.
And for Alaska, it's a warning.
So that sounds like they're saying we're seeing it coming.
phil labonte
Yeah.
Well, I mean, when it comes to Hawaii, I think it's something like six hours to get from where the epicenter of the earthquake was until Hawaii.
So we won't know if there's significant repercussions in Hawaii, but it will be obviously significantly shorter in Alaska.
Yeah.
tim pool
So, yeah, it was an advisory at first, but it's an upgraded to a warning.
So I hope everybody, if you're in the Aleutians, if you're in the area, please pay attention.
phil labonte
Yeah, and if I understand correctly, and the chat will correct me if I'm wrong, I'm sure, but if I understand correctly, watches are when it's possible.
Warning is when they've seen an actual tsunami.
So there is one going to the Aleutians now.
tim pool
Let's play this clip.
ian oliver
Let's see if you've been with us.
So an earthquake, if you've been with us, so I was trying to explain this.
This animation tells you a whole lot more, but how the plates move, how the seafloor moves, that's going to dictate how much displacement of water there is, how much water is moved, and how big of a tsunami could be generated.
We've seen at times, I was trying to think back to when that was.
I think it was in the Western Caribbean or Southern Gulf.
We had a fairly high magnitude earthquake.
It didn't produce a tsunami because it was a strike slip.
It was rock sliding horizontally.
tim pool
Across the victory.
ian oliver
And there's no vertical displacement of water in that setting.
So I was wondering, was this scenario like that?
It appears not.
This would be more of a normal earthquake fault where some of the rock itself shifted up, some of it shifted down in that fault.
There's the displacement of water, and that wave propagates out from where the earthquake started.
So yeah, that was, I believe this way closer to land.
tim pool
That video was from the Alaska earthquake, not from the current earthquake.
But yeah, I don't know.
You know, it's not a cultural political news event that we normally jump into, but I thought it was important considering this is 8.7 ain't no joke.
phil labonte
Yeah, it's a big, big earthquake.
When I was in Japan in 2011 for the Fukushima or the earthquake that hit Fukushima, that was a 9.0.
And I mean, 20,000 people died in Sendai alone.
unidentified
Wow.
phil labonte
So it was massive.
tim pool
You were in Japan when that went down?
phil labonte
I was in Japan in March 2011 when that happened.
It was crazy.
steve cortes
Was it scary where you were?
phil labonte
I was in Tokyo.
So where we were, it was about a 5.5.
But it shook the whole building.
And I mean, we were probably on the sixth or seventh floor doing sound check before the show.
My tour manager sticks his head in, and I'm like, oh, you know, this is crazy.
But like, we're in Japan.
It's the ring of fire.
They build the buildings, you know, to withstand this kind of stuff.
I was like, if there's a problem, one of the Japanese guys will come and they'll let us know.
And just as I was saying that, a Japanese guy came around the corner.
He was like, we got to get out of here.
And so we all start hauling out and everybody basically filtered out into the, you know, into the street.
And we're all kind of standing around for, I don't know, a couple hours.
We had just maybe an hour or so before, hour and a half, something like that, gotten off the bullet train.
And we heard that the bullet train derailed and a lot of people on that particular train died and stuff.
So we really, really...
tim pool
This earthquake may be the eighth or ninth largest earthquake in recorded history.
phil labonte
Wow.
tim pool
So the 10th biggest is an 8.6 in 2012, part of a lesser-known cluster of large Sumatra events.
Number nine is Assam, Tibet, massive Himalayan region quake.
It was an 8.6 or 8.7.
And 8, Rat Island in the Aleutians in 1965 was an 8.7.
So this ties for 8th, 8th biggest earthquake in recorded history.
That's crazy.
phil labonte
Yeah, it's no joke that an 8.7 is really, really huge.
unidentified
Wow.
elad eliahu
Hope everybody in Hawaii gets somewhere safe and follows all local news direction.
I hope they are able to get the message despite NPR's defunding.
tim pool
Yeah.
Well, let's jump to the next story here.
We've got this from the post-millennial.
Shane Samurai went up the wrong elevator bank in an attempt to target NFL offices in mass shooting.
Now, the official narrative has not been determined as to why this man, I believe he's half black, half Japanese, why he carried out these shootings, though they claim they found a letter in his pocket that said he was upset with the NFL.
Additionally, there have been some activists that pointed out the address in question he went to, the Blackstone building, was the target of globalized the Intifada activists over the past several years.
He didn't go to the NFL floor.
He went to the Blackstone floor, and he shot and killed an executive with Blackstone, as well as injuring an NFL employee.
So the conspiracy theory that we're seeing online is, in fact, his motivation was the anti-Israel protests.
His motivation was the growing intifada protest movement.
It was, I mean, Zoran Mamdani, who has said, globalize the intifada.
And I'm going to stress this because everyone gets so partisan on this one.
I'm not saying this to be pro or anti.
I don't care.
The point is, there's a question as to whether or not it makes more sense that this guy was blaming the NFL, who he's never interacted with, or if he was going to Blackstone, targeting Blackstone for financial activist reasons or for Israeli activist reasons.
And I'll give you a few examples.
The New York Times published this in May, May 6th.
Blackstone president donates $125 million to Israeli medical school, the largest in Tel Aviv university history.
And one of the individuals who was killed, a Jewish philanthropist, Wesley Lepatner, 43, was named as a victim.
Now, it is true that an NFL employee was seriously injured and is critical.
Online, there's speculation that the true motivation was the anti-Israel sentiment.
I'm curious what you guys think.
I'll start off just by saying, I was talking to my wife about it, and she was like, so what do you think happened?
And I'm like, I don't know of any large movements against the NFL to take weapons and go to their offices and hurt them.
So it's strange that a crazy person would do that.
But if they were to come out and say his motivation was Israel criticism or like, you know, Israel genocide or intifada, we'd go, of course, because of the wave of protests.
We had the two embassy employees who were killed already.
That lines up perfectly with the actions that he took.
The NFL one does not.
phil labonte
I mean, look, all the information that I've seen was that he was mentally ill, that he had CTE.
Those things are the actual reasons that I've seen.
So I don't think that this was, you know, obviously anytime someone goes and does a mass shooting, you're questioning their attachment to reality.
But this seems pretty clear that it wasn't motivated by any kind of political seven.
Why?
Pardon me?
tim pool
How is it clear?
phil labonte
Because he actually wrote out what he was actually.
steve cortes
Yeah, according to the reporting, he blamed the NFL for his CTE because he played football.
Now, he also played two years of high school football, okay?
So, I mean, that's a ludicrous notion.
But if he's mentally ill, maybe he believes that, right?
tim pool
Did he believe that there was actually a note in his pocket that said I blame the NFL?
steve cortes
Right.
We don't know, clearly, right?
tim pool
I'm just saying.
steve cortes
Why does he need that cover then, effectively?
phil labonte
We believe that he actually killed him.
I mean, we said when we saw it on the internet.
tim pool
So I'm leaning towards crazy people do crazy things.
However, the online theorists, and I want to stress this too, because they haven't released an official motive.
This is not a formalized declaration by law enforcement.
Eric Adams just said they found a note in his pocket that says you can't go up against the NFL or whatever.
But the theory is this guy was directly targeting Blackstone, a powerful financial organization with investments in tons of corporations that has been routinely called out for jacking up the price of homes.
It's one of the largest global holdings of real estate.
The offices that this man went to was Blackstone and a real estate holding office.
And the woman that he shot was part of their real estate investment group.
When you look at all of the pieces to the theory about this being targeting Blackstone, the pieces, there's a lot of, okay, that makes sense.
When you look at NFL, it's like the only explanation is he was crazy.
And quite possibly true.
Quite possibly true.
The argument is that if they were to come out and say this guy was motivated by globalized intifada, one, it's damaging to Zoran Mamdani over that whole fiasco because he refused to denounce it.
And there's fears that it would launch copycats because of the massive online sentiment against Israel and Jews right now.
elad eliahu
We are in the age of vigilante justice because the information writ large, we're in the era of vigilante justice.
People feel confident shooting at healthcare CEOs or Pennsylvania governors or Minneapolis politicians or whatnot.
And it's kind of a choose your own narrative here.
You could make this story whatever you want it to be.
There's so many different angles where you could say there's so many different interests at play.
The NFL definitely doesn't want us to talk about how CTE is common throughout football players and like banging your head against one another probably isn't the healthiest thing to do.
And that's coming from a former JV football player.
And like, I don't know, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to tell me that, hey, if we bang our heads together really hard and fast and repetitively, that it could probably scramble your brains a little bit.
Politically, it would be damaging for the globalized endified people.
It could just be, I mean, it's pick your conspiracy.
It could be the FBI just sent somebody in to try to make some more anti-gun legislation.
So it's really difficult to...
Well, it's allegedly he had an alleged note.
tim pool
There is no official formal declaration of motivation.
The law enforcement has not come out.
This is what I find fascinating because you guys are citing media reports from unnamed sources.
phil labonte
I'm citing the stuff that I've read.
But I mean, that's just as, it's just as likely as that he might be a pro-Palestine guy.
tim pool
Sure.
And my point is, you know, you said it seems likely that he was motivated by the NFL.
It's like, they haven't released his motive yet.
phil labonte
I said seems likely because of the fact that I've seen stuff that there was a that to me seems likely because he went to go to the NFL.
tim pool
He didn't, though.
So here's my issue.
A guy shows up to Blackstone's building, kills a Blackstone executive, goes to Blackstone's real estate floor, shoots at people on Blackstone's floor, and then some unnamed sources say he was met at football, and everyone's like, that explains it.
And I'm like, wait, wait, hold on, what's going on here?
A guy went to a Blackstone office, killed a Blackstone executive, got an elevator up to the Blackstone 32nd and 33rd floors, was shooting at employees of their real estate holdings division, and then the media launched these unnamed sources, and I'm being told that it's the NFL.
And I'm like, what law enforcement hasn't put out his motivation yet?
If the cops come out and say, we found evidence to conclude that this guy was just a crazy guy with CTE who was targeting the NFL, I'll say, yeah, okay.
I mean, I'll lean a little bit in that direction because that's at least what we're hearing somewhat.
But if we look at what it was reported that he did, he killed a Blackstone executive in the Blackstone building and then went to the Blackstone floor targeting Blackstone employees.
steve cortes
According to Eric Adams, he mistakenly went to the— By the way, though, if the narrative is that it's anti-football and that football is dangerous, the corporate media is grabbing onto that immediately.
Why?
Because they hate football.
Because football is uniquely masculine and American.
No, really.
I mean, there's a massive movement among those types, ruling class people, including the corporate media, against playing football in this country.
So if they think they can grab onto that, whether it's true or not, they're going to run with that narrative.
And by the way, I will certainly defend football.
Football is very worthy of American young men playing.
elad eliahu
But it is violent and dangerous and can cause CTE.
steve cortes
Yes, all of that is true.
Playing high school, there's no significant data that playing high school football leads to, in any significant measure, to CTE.
I mean, that is also demonstrably true.
But are there risks?
Of course, just as there's risks to playing hockey, there's risk to playing soccer to your head by hitting the soccer ball, right?
It's actually quite dangerous for your brain.
So there's risk to all sports.
But I'm getting back to this case.
Let me ask you this, Tim.
What would be the motivation of the NYPD on the scene to do something that is defensive of Mamdani?
In other words, why would they want to cover for a possible incoming mayor who the police hate?
tim pool
They wouldn't.
steve cortes
Okay, so who would then?
tim pool
Unnamed sources talking to the press claimed he had a note in his pocket.
steve cortes
Oh, okay, so you're saying that whole part's just manufactured?
tim pool
No, I'm saying when the media comes out, here's what I'm saying.
I'm saying this.
I have no idea what his motivation was.
What we know is that a guy went to a Blackstone office, shot a Blackstone executive responsible for their, who was in their real estate division, went up to a real estate holdings floor, which includes Blackstone, and again, shot people.
And then we got from the corporate press that unnamed sources said he had a note in his pocket blaming the NFL.
And I got a chat full of people right now saying, yep, that's true.
So you guys in the chat right now just saying the mainstream media's unnamed sources are correct?
You're right.
Trump is a Russian agent.
Are you kidding me?
So when we get this story and I wake up in the morning, I look at the news and it says he had a note in his pocket blaming the NFL.
I went, wow, that's crazy.
And then I read it and said, two unnamed sources say.
And I was like, okay.
And then, as of right now, law enforcement has not released a motive.
So where did this narrative come from?
And why has everyone latched onto it as if it's a fact?
steve cortes
Well, and what I'm telling you is that the corporate media, if that is manufactured, in fact, the corporate media would concoct that in a second because they would say, wow, he shot someone from the NFL, right?
Why would he hate the NFL?
Let's say he has CTE because we hate football and because we want football to go away.
I'm saying, I don't think that's an implausible motivation if, in fact, it's a manufactured story.
tim pool
So my question for y'all in chat watching right now is, with law enforcement saying there's no evidence of an official motive, do you believe the media narrative provided by unnamed sources and reiterated by Mary Eric Adams that it was a guy who never associated with the NFL?
And I'm not saying that facetiously.
It's a guy who played a couple years of high school football and then went to the NFL offices, shot a Blackstone executive, got in the wrong elevator, and then took his own life accidentally going to the Blackstone offices.
Is that what happened?
Honest question.
elad eliahu
According to the media, so far from the reports that we have, it seems more or less that he accidentally went to Blackstone.
steve cortes
I think it gets to a larger point that none of us believe the official narrative we're going to be told, right?
I mean, and that's the sad place of American society.
Well, but unfortunately, it's because so much law enforcement, particularly federal law enforcement, I love cops, love beat cops on the street, but federal law enforcement has been so corrupted and poisoned and politicized that we simply don't believe these institutions that we formerly held in high regard, particularly the FBI.
So, I mean, I think this is what we're talking about here is unfortunately reflective of that larger reality of just disbelief of whatever we're told, is it true?
I don't know, even if it's official.
Now, in this case, too, we're talking about reporting, which is a whole other level of natural skepticism, which is very proper.
But the point is, for example, how many people do you know who believe that we know the full truth about the mass Las Vegas shooting, right?
tim pool
Oh, we never got it right.
steve cortes
It seems no one believes that we know the full truth.
No one's a good person.
phil labonte
That's because that many guns are heavy.
steve cortes
Well, I'm just saying, no, there's all kinds of reasons, but the point is, I don't know anyone who believes, you know.
tim pool
Here's what I'm let me tell you where I'm coming from.
I was out yesterday.
Obviously, I was sick, and I'm watching the news, and the initial reporting is a guy walks into the Blackstone building, shoots and kills a Blackstone executive, goes up to the real estate holdings office, and is targeting more people.
And then I was like, holy crap.
Remember how we've been talking about for years how Blackstone is buying up houses?
According to Fast Company, one year, a year and a half ago, Blackstone is back to being a top player in the housing market.
Here are the numbers.
A story that we've covered routinely was how Blackstone would, there would be like a young Gen Z couple trying to buy a house.
And then all of a sudden the seller would say, Blackstone came in 20% above market.
And they'd sell it, driving the prices away up and keeping young people out of the market.
And what would we say the whole time?
You will own nothing and you will be happy.
That was the agenda.
So then when I hear a story about a guy going to the Blackstone offices, again, killing a Blackstone executive who specifically worked in real estate, then going up to a real estate office, which also it was a real estate company and it was Blackstone.
I was like, holy crap.
It sounds like this lines up with what we'd expect from online activism, the conspiracy community.
And then the morning when I woke up, They said, nah, he was just a guy who thought the NFL was bad and he accidentally went to the wrong floor.
And I was like, well, that doesn't add up to anything.
I mean, that doesn't fit any online activism communities.
How was he radicalized into deciding to shoot NFL people?
Why would I assume that's true?
And then the reports were that it was unnamed sources.
Throughout the day, however, everybody's been pushing that narrative, assuming that's the case.
And as of right now, law enforcement has not stated they know of what his motivation was.
So I find it interesting that there's this split and people are really trying hard to say, no, no, it's just big football is dangerous.
And there's, I just, I find it hard to believe that, you know, when you look at the mass shootings we've had in the past, the motivations line up in some degree.
So you had the transgender lunatic went to a Catholic school and targeted Christians, blamed them and wrote this stuff down.
You had, you know, obviously, if you go back further, you have Orlando.
You have the shooting of the congressional baseball game.
It seems to be that the motivations line up with something tangible in politics and culture.
The NFL?
You can't go up against the NFL?
I just find the whole thing to be very weird, to be honest.
And again, I'll stress this.
When law enforcement comes out and says, no, no, we do believe based on the evidence, this is the official narrative, the official motivation, I'll say, okay, sure.
Y'all are right.
But I'm just stressing, right now, there's no official motivation as per law enforcement, only these unnamed media reports.
And there are people desperately in the chat right now saying it was the NFL.
And I'm like, oh, okay.
I got to be honest, I've never heard of this before in my life.
Have you guys, that like the NFL is running a conspiracy to destroy people who suffer from CTE?
steve cortes
Well, there is a significant propaganda campaign against football, yes.
And really, it's particularly been pronounced since that Will Smith movie, Concussion, right?
Try to scare people into believing that playing football means, you know, you're going to be...
tim pool
My point specifically is, and I mean this sincerely, is there a conspiracy theory or, not a conspiracy theory, but like a contention about NFL targeting people suffering from CTE in their high schools to stop them from hurting their reputation of football?
elad eliahu
I guess the idea would be that the NFL didn't properly talk about the risk that playing football can bring, which includes CTE, would be the argument from the...
phil labonte
Look, my money's on, and this is just an opinion, but I think that it's just mental illness that he had a psychotic break and that he imagined that the situation was as he's said.
So that's just, again, this is only based on the things that I know, and it's only an opinion.
It's not that I have any...
tim pool
Someone helped him get...
You know, I don't...
I'm not sure who.
phil labonte
Could be.
tim pool
And that he had a permit in Vegas, in Nevada, and that's where he was able to acquire the weapon and then came to New York.
I also find it just strange that someone from Nevada would plan this whole thing out and then go to the wrong floor.
Maybe.
I mean, maybe.
elad eliahu
I will say Manhattan buildings are very confusing, and in many of these big towers, there are dozens of different businesses.
I would be surprised if it's only Blackstone and the NFL in that building.
tim pool
Yeah, there's like KMPGM or something like that.
elad eliahu
If a building has 50 floors, you know.
steve cortes
That building is a full city block.
elad eliahu
So there's tons of different businesses in there.
I want to believe that we aren't seeing more targeted killings of Jews.
She was a UJA president.
She worked at a Jewish foundation too.
And I don't know.
I hope that's not true.
I hope we're not seeing the normalization of this in New York City, in Manhattan, in Pennsylvania, in too many places to name.
tim pool
When I look on the surface, there's, like I mentioned, the shooting in Tennessee motivated by woke leftism, and they withheld the information.
Is it, and I'm asking you guys sincerely, when we get these mass shootings, do they typically release the motivation on day one, like within 10, within three or four hours of?
phil labonte
Honestly, it depends on what the motivation is.
If it was right away.
tim pool
Right.
If it's a right-wing thing, they release it, but it's a left-wing thing, they don't.
steve cortes
That's been the practice.
elad eliahu
If they chant something at the shooting, then they'll talk about it sooner.
If there's a manifesto, sometimes they'll try to withhold it and withhold the details, I feel like, for as long as they can.
tim pool
Unless it's right-wing.
elad eliahu
Unless it's right wing or unless the shooter did something during the shooting to make it obvious.
So I feel like it's a case for a question.
phil labonte
Yeah.
steve cortes
By the way, regarding that, that horrific shooting at Covenant School, the only reason that finally we did get full transparency is because a local radio host, Michael Patrick Leahy, sued for it, thankfully, successfully sued, and said this must be public.
By the way, there was no reason.
Law enforcement was trying to claim that they needed it to keep it private to investigate.
Well, the shooter was dead, right?
So there's nothing to investigate in terms of if they don't have to prepare for trial, they don't have to worry about evidence.
It should have been released immediately.
The only reason it wasn't is because in a very conservative state of Tennessee, where I live, the one liberal bastion is Nashville, right?
And the Nashville authorities simply did not want it out that this was a trans person upset at her Christian school that didn't approve of her lifestyle choices.
And she went back there and slaughtered children because of it.
And that wasn't a ruling class narrative that is approved and that can get out, right?
Had it been a situation like the terrible situation in South Carolina, Dylan Roof killing black people in a black church, it's out immediately.
carter banks
He also lived, so he kind of said that exactly what he did and why.
So if that's the case, then you'll know pretty quickly as well.
tim pool
This is interesting because someone super chatted this.
They said, because I wasn't, I got to be honest, last night I was in bed watching Fox News literally all day.
That's all I was doing.
Got to love Fox.
And it's time to stand says, what about the woman on video in New York who said the shooter was screaming free Palestine?
And so I looked it up and even Laura Loomer tweeted, yes, we get it.
Free Palestine is a mental disorder as if that was it.
Witnesses say the suspect yelled free Palestine.
I'm not the shooter while armed with an AR-15.
And this is a wrong person.
There's images of NYPD arresting a guy and it's a guy.
He's like, I'm not the shooter.
So I think the NYPD arrested a guy, but it was not the shooter.
And the guy who wasn't the shooter who got arrested did yell Free Palestine, and now people think the shooter was yelling Free Palestine.
I think that's what happened.
Just based off what I'm looking at right now on X, it looks like initially the cops arrested a different person, and people thought he was the shooter.
I don't know.
phil labonte
Man, y'all decide, I guess.
In the IRL Slack, there's a link.
There's a tsunami hitting Russia right now.
steve cortes
Wow.
phil labonte
Wait.
tim pool
The tsunami has hit...
phil labonte
Servo Curlisk?
I believe.
unidentified
I believe.
Wow, there it is.
All right, man.
tim pool
I hope everybody in Alaska is paying attention and safe.
phil labonte
Get to high ground.
tim pool
That is crazy.
unidentified
Wow.
Yep.
tim pool
And people don't understand.
They think, you know, for movies, tsunamis are these gigantic waves that come over your city.
It's basically just the whole water levels rising rapidly and flowing in.
unidentified
And what's going to get you, you know what, man?
tim pool
I've seen more than a videos.
I know most of you have where people try to walk across streams.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
You ever watch those videos?
And they go, whoosh, just flip.
They don't understand fluid dynamics and the amount of force on your feet.
Not to mention, it's slippery.
phil labonte
Yep.
tim pool
It's slippery.
We got to jump to this story.
We have to.
This is the biggest news in the country.
WNBA star loses wig during game as game stopped due to fan reaction.
They also kicked the guy out.
And are you kidding me?
phil labonte
Are you kidding me?
tim pool
For making fun of her.
I was just, I'm watching the clip and the player's wig comes off and she runs out and they stop the game.
And I'm like, just shut the whole, shut it down.
No more WNBA.
You're not allowed to play if you have to pause the pause, timeout, wig accident.
That's the WNBA for you.
I don't understand why anybody is acting like the W NBA matters.
Why are they trying to make it a thing?
steve cortes
Everything about this league is just patently absurd.
And I think perhaps the most absurd part is the players and others trying to protest that they're not paid enough when the league is 100% subsidized by the men, right?
And that's supposed to be a win for feminism to say we have a captive league that can only exist by the benefits of men, right?
And by the charity of men, right?
I mean, that's absurd.
It's the opposite of feminism.
phil labonte
And not only that, I mean, the women that are saying, oh, hey, you know, pay us what we're worth, et cetera, like they're totally ignoring that fact and making believe that that isn't the actual situation, which the economic value is negative.
steve cortes
Okay, that's what you're actually worth economically, right?
tim pool
I figured it out.
It's Juana Mann.
She ran off when her wig fell off because people are going to realize it's a disgraced former NBA player who's playing in the women's league to try and play ball.
But here you can see the player right here, her wig fell off.
There she is.
She grabs it and runs off the court.
phil labonte
I mean, if you're in a men's game, would there be any situation that you could even think of that resembles this?
Yeah.
steve cortes
Okay, but also, can we talk about the idea of kicking the fan out for laughing about what is clearly an absurd situation?
I mean, what's next?
You can't boo the opponent?
I mean, this is a big part of spectator sports, right?
phil labonte
Yeah.
steve cortes
Is having fun and even to the degree of being kind of mean, right, about the opposite team.
And are we now censoring that?
Is that now verboten or only in the WNBA, I guess?
carter banks
It's only one person that laughed.
elad eliahu
So I will say this.
tim pool
No, I guess someone was like making fun of her.
And so they removed him.
phil labonte
She deserved it.
I mean, she ran on.
steve cortes
Sit in the outfield at Yankee Stadium, right, when the other team's in the field, when the Yankees are batting, and listen to the crowd mock the players, right?
I mean, it's almost an art form, right?
It's as crude as it could possibly be.
I'm not saying that we all should model that behavior, but the point is that's part of sports, right?
It's clearly part of sports.
And we're saying you can't even make fun of something that's clearly a really absurd situation.
elad eliahu
So I'm not particularly compelled or interested in the WNBA, but I do think it's a good thing that it exists.
I think the worst thing about the WNBA, though, is that it seems as though the players are doing everything within their power to make the league fail.
Most of the players are extremely unlikable.
When they have one talented player, everybody on the other teams get jealous of her.
There's a ton of envy amongst the league players.
They're very arrogant.
They're not open to change.
One of the big things that they could do.
tim pool
Taking the Colbert approach on this one, Being on the wrong side of an A20 issue?
elad eliahu
But just let me finish.
There's one thing that there's actually a couple of the players were asked that could change the game to make it a lot more interesting, and that is lowering the rim to allow the women to be able to dunk.
One of the things that, again, makes normal men's basketball very interesting.
tim pool
Maybe like five feet.
elad eliahu
Whatever it may be.
tim pool
Cut it in half.
elad eliahu
Eight, nine.
I think dunking would completely change the game for them.
And they're like, no, we want to be like the men.
We want to be like the men.
So it's like this ego of the menu.
tim pool
They need a bigger ball, too.
elad eliahu
Well, they use a smaller ball already.
tim pool
You can make the ball bigger.
elad eliahu
No, they should make it smaller so it's easier to dunk, lower the rim, make it easier for them to hit three-pointers.
tim pool
Add more than one ball, and they can juggle them.
elad eliahu
Start defending Caitlin Clark.
And I mean, I think it's a good thing to have young women to have a sports league that they could potentially look up to.
But again, all these players are extremely unlikable.
tim pool
The only thing they got going for them is that Foxy Boxing is live now in Indiana.
I'm not kidding.
It's a disgusting league.
It's a waste of money.
It's laughably pathetic.
Timeout.
Wig fell off.
Oh, what are we?
What is this?
Kindergarten?
Oh, I lost my hair.
Oh, God, I can't play no more.
And then on top of that, when Caitlin Clark starts making the money for the league, they start beating the crap out of her.
It's like, okay.
elad eliahu
No, but there's still women and there's a lot of people.
tim pool
Just get rid of it.
You don't deserve to have a WNBA anymore.
Why is the NBA paying for this?
steve cortes
We would not be talking about this topic tonight if it were not for Caitlin Clark.
Like, that's the only reason.
The WNBA was totally ignored before Caitlin Clark.
So she made the league relevant, made it controversial, made it into something that Timcast wants to talk about.
But here's the thing.
So what do they do to thank her for bringing them relevance?
They physically assaulted her every chance they got because she happens to be white and straight, two unforgivable sins, apparently, in the WNBA.
So look, I think this league should be thoroughly mocked.
I think it's a joke.
I think it's bad for our culture.
It's bad for our society because it's full of hate, And the hate is condoned, and in fact, sometimes even celebrated.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, look, you've got, I mean, it's all women, and women hate each other.
So, I mean, they're going to hate.
That's just part of the dynamic.
elad eliahu
To continue harping on them being so unlikable, I forgot the tall woman who brought pot to freaking Russia like a fucking moron.
steve cortes
Brittany Griner.
elad eliahu
And then Brittany Griner.
And then we had to do one of the, again, one of the worst trade deals in history, giving up like an infamous Russian arms dealer, Victor Boot, I believe it was.
phil labonte
Very smart woman.
elad eliahu
She need to be smarter than that, man.
So, again, the league are making themselves extremely unlikable, but like on principle, I think the idea is nice.
Like a woman's league.
On principle, just it's a new business.
I like when businesses thrive and try to empower women, but when it plays out like this, right?
tim pool
So what do Brittany Griner and Bridget Macron have in common?
elad eliahu
Potentially men?
I don't know.
Allegedly.
I'm saying that with so many other people.
steve cortes
As long as we're talking conspiracy theories, though.
elad eliahu
No, I don't want to get sued because, you know, the Macron's are coming out of the city.
tim pool
You can't get sued for calling a woman a man.
elad eliahu
You can't in France, apparently.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
They're suing Candace Owens.
They're suing her here, and it's going to get tossed out in two seconds.
They're going to have to pay her legal fees.
It's a stupid suing Candace Owens because she called Bridget Macron a man.
That's protected speech.
phil labonte
Yeah, and everyone knows Bridget McCrone is Eddie.
tim pool
The argument is in court, you'll have to ask what's inherently defamatory about accusing someone of being transgender.
And Bridget McCrone is going to have to publicly state being transgender is bad and defamatory because.
So it's not going to happen.
unidentified
And Brady Griner's been a good one.
tim pool
There's allegedly a video of Brittany Griner walking around with no shirt on, and it's a guy.
Maybe it's not Brittany Griner.
I have no idea, but this is the internet, so if it's on the internet, it must be true.
phil labonte
Listen to Brittany Griner speak.
steve cortes
Right.
elad eliahu
Well, there are a lot of butch, masculine women who I mean, no, she did look...
I know what video you're talking about without her shirt on, and it did look a little bit odd, but I...
phil labonte
I didn't see the video.
elad eliahu
Do you think Bridget McCrone is a man more importantly, though?
tim pool
I didn't before, but after this lawsuit, I'm like, oh, man.
elad eliahu
Yeah, she really streissand affected that.
But if I'm Bridget McCrone, I'm so conflicted on how to fight back against Candace.
tim pool
You don't.
Michelle Obama is just like, whatever.
steve cortes
With Macrone, by the way.
tim pool
No, to be real quick, sorry.
One of the reasons, there's a rumor that the reason Michelle Obama refuses to run for president is because they call her a man.
Like, could you imagine being like an aging woman and you're getting old and ugly?
And then all over the world, millions of people are like, that's a guy.
That's going to rip at their hearts, you know?
So I heard Michelle Obama won't run because of the man comments.
elad eliahu
In that case, it's a very effective way to get her to not run.
tim pool
Indeed, it is.
elad eliahu
I'm very happy about that.
tim pool
She doesn't want to be in the limelight and get called a man for two years.
elad eliahu
Yeah.
tim pool
Or six.
elad eliahu
I struggle with it because what if Bridget McCrone actually is a woman and she's just being mercilessly slandered by Candace Owens almost baselessly because she's repeating some almost slanderous about calling Bridget McCrone a man because she's allegedly a woman.
tim pool
Right, but what's slanderous about it?
what's inherently defamatory.
She's lying about the gender of Oh, whoa.
How is it defamatory?
elad eliahu
It's a little bit more complicated than that because that would mean that the person France is married to a man who's pretending to be a woman.
tim pool
What's defamatory about it?
That's the question.
elad eliahu
They're lying about her gender.
tim pool
What's defamatory about it?
elad eliahu
To lie about somebody's gender, to imply that they switched genders when they didn't feel defamatory.
tim pool
It's a statement.
It's a statement.
Now, what is defamatory?
elad eliahu
They're defaming her.
tim pool
Let me try this again.
Defamation would be like if I said Elod kicks dogs for fun.
He goes to parks and kicks dogs, right?
I am striking at your honor and trustworthiness.
If I said he has a disease, if he committed a crime, if he throws, he spray paint vandalizes churches.
These are defamatory.
If I said he once paid a hooker to pee on a bed, that's defamatory.
Saying Britain McCarthy's a man, what about that is inherently defamatory?
I understand you keep saying it over and over again.
I'm asking you that question because the reality is there's only a conservative answer, which is it is offensive to conservatives to surgically alter your body.
It's considered amoral.
And it's going to upset your standing in the conservative and religious communities.
Is that the argument she wants to make?
Because she can.
But on the surface, publicly, there is nothing inherently damaging or defamatory about calling a woman a man or a man a woman.
It would be no different than if I said you had blonde hair and you dye it.
elad eliahu
I think there's a little bit, something a little bit different there, Tim.
Because I think she's trying to hurt her public image here.
And you saying I've a definitely a point here.
tim pool
What is damaging to Bridget McCrone's public image by being a man?
elad eliahu
It's implying that she's the opposite gender and a closeted transgender person.
phil labonte
I think the only thing that's not that hard.
elad eliahu
And that she's trying to harm her public image.
phil labonte
I think the only thing that could be said that would be damaging would be implying that she's dishonest, but actually being transgender isn't.
And I think that that's a big stretch, to be honest with you.
tim pool
Calling someone a liar is not defamation at all.
phil labonte
That's why I said it's a big stretch, but it's not, it technically isn't defamatory to say.
tim pool
No, the reality is considering it defamatory because Candace hurt her feelings.
That's it.
It is not defamatory.
If someone went online and said Tim Poole is actually a trans man and has been a woman his whole life or whatever, a trans investigator, there's nothing defamatory I could do.
You can't do anything about that.
There's just nothing you can do about that.
You can literally call someone a white supremacist.
You can't sue them.
It's not defamation.
elad eliahu
We'll see how this plays out in Delaware court.
I'm not a lawyer, so you could be right on the definitions.
tim pool
Oh, bro, I've been involved in so many lawsuits pertaining to this stuff.
It's gonna get thrown out, the judge is gonna...
Because even if they could prove that Candace knew Bridget McCrone was actually a woman, there's no damages from it.
It's not defamation per se, and there's no damages.
So it's like she knew she was lying, but Bridget McCron's not been damaged in any meaningful way.
elad eliahu
And well, do you believe, I mean, the issue is, do you actually believe Candace Owens when she's saying this?
She staked her so-called journalistic reputation on this.
tim pool
I think Candace Owens thinks Bridget McCrone is a man, yes.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
Yeah.
I'm excited to see how this folks are.
I don't think Michelle Obama is a man, though.
steve cortes
I totally understand your logic here, right?
Because you're saying there's obviously an implied value judgment if it is defamatory.
But I would also push back and say that to the sensible masses, transgendering is the negative, right?
So to the sensible masses, it is defamatory if it's not true, because that is negative, and they do judge that as being a poor decision.
It's changing shit.
tim pool
It's not.
I think if you said something like, Elad, appearance defamation is so hard because like on the surface, I just don't know, there's no way this can be defamatory because you're literally just talking about her looks.
You can make an argument that Elad is a sinner.
Like Elad has, that's the point.
The only argument about why it would be defamatory is that she has sinned or something.
Because to the left, it's a whole net positive.
steve cortes
Sure.
tim pool
She's come into herself and it should be celebrated and it's prideful.
So at the bare minimum, it's not defamatory.
It just is a statement and there's nothing to sue for and she's not been damaged by it.
I mean, maybe she'll come out and be like, I was trying to go to a beauty pageant and they won't let me in because I thought I was a man.
elad eliahu
I think she's not damaged here.
I think because people think that she's a closeted transgender person.
People believe that she's literally a man and that harms the reputation of her and her husband to be homosexuals.
tim pool
I'm going to ask you again, just if I said something like, Elad kicks dogs, okay, that is a violent action.
It is a criminal action.
It can cause monetary damages with veterinary bills.
If I said Elad is a vandal, that's not defamatory.
If I said Elad vandalized a church at this place, it is, because I'm implying you have committed a crime.
In fact, that is defamation per se.
To say that Bridget Macron is a man does none of these things and it results in no required corrective marketing.
There's no damages to be corrected.
Half of the people like that she's trans and half of the people don't.
So it's neutral at best.
When you say it's reputation damaging, I'm asking you to explain in what way it damages someone's reputation.
Again, the only argument would be that it's a sin.
In the religious community, it's seen as sinful.
In the liberal community, it's seen as prideful.
So it's kind of neutral, I guess.
Right?
It is universally accepted that kicking dogs is bad.
So it harms your reputation because people now won't let you near their dogs.
You can't go to the local dog competition or whatever, the dog show.
That all makes sense.
She's not going to be banned from anywhere.
She's not going to have to spend any money.
There's just nothing defamatory there.
elad eliahu
I guess not.
We'll let the courts decide.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
Why are we even talking about this now?
steve cortes
From the WNBA.
phil labonte
Yeah, they are.
tim pool
Oh, right, right.
steve cortes
Victor Griner.
elad eliahu
Worse than a deal again, Victor Hugh.
I can't believe that.
tim pool
The merchant of death, right?
phil labonte
Yeah.
Should have let it.
steve cortes
Worse than trading away Baby Roof?
elad eliahu
That's before my time.
I don't know.
steve cortes
The Red Sox traded Baby Roof to the Yankees.
elad eliahu
Okay.
Yeah, Brittany Griner, a dumb trade deal.
I can't believe she was even dumb enough to bring Pot to Russia, nonetheless.
Anyway.
tim pool
Let's jump to the story from Newsweek.
Ron DeSantis predicts NYC cops will flee to Florida if Zoran Mamdani wins.
I don't know about Florida, but Florida's probably a good choice.
What do you guys think?
You think if this commie wins mayor, the cops are going to flee?
steve cortes
Yeah.
I mean, and why wouldn't they, by the way?
No, most cops are not, clearly.
tim pool
In New York, I think they are.
steve cortes
No, not even in New York.
Come on.
I mean, most New York cops are salt of the earth, wonderful, patriotic people.
tim pool
I disagree.
I think a lot of the cops in New York are commies.
I think a lot of them are.
steve cortes
I strongly disagree with that.
tim pool
I think a lot of them live in Staten Island and hate what the city is.
But having lived in New York for five years and routinely interacted with NYPD, I think they're mostly default lib.
And default lib is, to be fair, not commie.
But when the communists get power and say, go do communist things, they go, okay, boss.
Like when they painted Black Lives Matter in front of Trump Tower, and then 26 officers were like, you got it, boss.
It's an illegal theft of public funds without city council approval.
And they're painting a public message on a street, which violates federal law, but we're going to enforce it anyway.
And then NYPD started arresting a bunch of people.
Or how about when in New York during COVID, when they shut down churches and the cops were like, what was it?
No more First Amendment.
All right, we'll arrest people at the church.
That doesn't sound like salt of the earth.
That sounds like commie.
steve cortes
Listen, I will grant you that certainly there are a lot of compliant cops who are willing to obey against their better judgment, but that doesn't make them communists, certainly in their mentality.
tim pool
When a communist says shut a church down and the cop says, you got a boss, sounds like a commie to me.
steve cortes
I don't believe that they're communists.
I will say this, though.
I think that it's very telling that the NYPD can't recruit people, right?
That people do not want to join, knowing that they're going to be given an impossible mission to try to fight crime when city leadership, if anything, will take the side of the criminals in every judgment call and every occasion where it's in any sense not clear.
tim pool
let me ask you, why do you, why do you think it is that, uh, why, why do you believe NYPD cops are not communists?
steve cortes
Just from knowing so many cops and from, I've known enough, not as many as Chicago, of course, but yeah, I spent a lot of time in Chicago or New York and certainly know NYPD.
But I think in general, beat cops, I'm not talking necessarily about leadership, but in general, beat cops overwhelmingly are salty-earth, patriotic, generally very observantly religious people who do a really hard job and take tremendous risks for public safety.
I think they're honorable people on the whole.
tim pool
Wouldn't communists hire other communists to be police officers?
steve cortes
I mean, sure.
Are there infestations of that?
Sure, of course there are.
tim pool
So you think it was good, God-fearing men who shut churches down in Harris?
steve cortes
Clearly not.
tim pool
Like, where were the good cops then to say, hey, you can't shut a church down?
steve cortes
I think, unfortunately, they were intimidated and compliant.
And probably a lot of them were fooled into believing they were doing something noble, into believing the Fauci nonsense and into believing that lockdowns were actually effective and that this was for the good of the people.
tim pool
Violated the Constitution.
steve cortes
I'm not defending any of it, right?
At that time, contemporaneously, I was one of the loudest voices possible opposing what was going on.
I'm saying a lot of cops probably believed the propaganda, the propaganda from Fauci and others.
tim pool
Communist propaganda.
steve cortes
Yeah.
tim pool
And then marched in lockstep and enforced it, right?
steve cortes
But well-meaning people can believe lies if they are sold effectively to them.
That's my point.
tim pool
So like the Milgram experiments.
When they had people believe they were electrocuting the other person and said, don't worry, I'm the authority and I tell you to do it so it's okay.
And then they had people on the other side screaming and begging for it to stop.
And the doctor's like, no, you keep going.
And they would.
They would just keep doing it.
I think that's what communism stems from.
So when you have a police department, I'll say this, the state troopers, a lot of NYPD did refuse to shut down bars in Staten Island.
NYPD refused to shut down the bars.
They did bring in state troopers.
But when it comes to the enforcement of communism, it largely has to be a Milgram-compliant group of cops.
And so if you have, at the highest levels, the government of New York is largely communist.
SDNY is communist.
I'm saying that only a little bit tongue-in-cheek because they are actually enforcing these Marxist theories and critical theories, but it's more of just cabal corruption.
The mayor appoints his head of the police department, who is going to be a political ally, a commie, and that person's going to put other cops in positions of power who are going to align or do as they're told.
Communism can't survive if there are actual God-fearing police officers who say, I'm not shutting a church down.
Good luck.
Instead, what happened?
The commies got power, and they said, no more church for you.
And the cops were like, you got it, boss, just like that.
Now that person is going to hell.
No question.
And if they think otherwise, maybe they can repent.
I don't know.
I'm not an authority figure on this.
I just got to tell.
I would assume, and y'all can criticize me for this and tell me I'm wrong, but I would kind of assume that if you use the threat of violence in force against Christians who are trying to go to church to worship, it's probably a hell-worthy trespass, I'd imagine.
I don't know.
I'm a lapsed Catholic, so I don't really know much about what I'm talking about.
But certainly it seems like one of the most egregious things you can do is use the threat of violence against people to stop them from praising the Lord.
And that's what they did in New York.
So I think they're communists.
I don't think they'll flee to Florida.
I think Zohar Manani will get in.
They'll be like, you got it, boss.
And then they're going to say, take over this grocery store.
We're turning to public works.
And they're going to say, sure thing.
No questions asked.
elad eliahu
I think the NYPD has a very tough, very thankless job.
But at the end of the day, they do what they're told in their job because they want to keep their job.
They want to keep their pension.
And that's their interest for the most part.
So when you see people like the NYPD following orders like that, they don't want to lose their job because if they weren't following orders, then they would be fired.
tim pool
Because their job is more important to them than the Constitution or their faith or their family.
To be fair, I mean, it's reasonable, right?
You got a family, you got a salary, your kid needs to go to school, your kid needs food, and the government comes to you and says, you will either do as you're told or you'll be in the pen with them.
And that's what we saw when they went to the Jewish communities and started chaining the parks shut and shutting the schools down.
They were spying and looking through windows because the Jewish community was trying to have, you know, school and temple and stuff like that.
And in Seattle, what we saw was there's a video I like to cite where Antifa threatened a guy and they were all across the street marching towards him as he walked back with his hands up.
Police pull up behind him, get out of the car, grab his hands, put him behind his back and arrest him and apologize to Antifa.
And it's fascinating to me that there's this generic conservative view that all cops are good or police are good.
And I'm like, bro, the Soviet Union, the cops were communists too.
And in Venezuela, the cops, they're all communists.
elad eliahu
I will say most of the NYPD are outer borough or metropolitan, greater metropolitan area cops that don't want to lose their jobs, man.
Yeah, they don't want to lose their jobs.
But most of them are Republicans.
And I think it's worth saying, too, that everybody on the left in New York City doesn't think they're communists.
phil labonte
I don't know.
elad eliahu
They think they're all fascists.
I know.
tim pool
I'm going to say this.
You made the point.
They're having trouble recruiting because the reality is the good, God-fearing, conservative, Christian, or constitutionalists are refusing to join a communist police department.
elad eliahu
Well, we've demoralized the NYPD, too.
I mean, I think that's a bigger part of it.
This was coming on the heels of the defund the police movement and seeing how when police actually enforce the law, the consequences that they have for enforcing the law, even when they're doing it correctly, that when there's trouble in the subway, they're going to have to think twice about whether or not to do anything because they don't want to get in trouble down the line.
So I think they're, again, being put in an impossible position and then being criticized from both sides.
tim pool
And then when those lawyers were passing out Molotov cocktails, and someone firebombed an NYPD van, I think.
elad eliahu
Multiple during that.
tim pool
They get a slap on the wrist in a sweetheart deal, and the cops are told, nope.
So what I see is happening is, look, five years ago during the riots, I was defending the cops who were trying to stop the riots.
But it's pretty obvious what happened.
These cops started quitting.
We talked about this for the past a couple years afterwards of departments seeing massive, they were getting defunded and cops were quitting.
And what did we all say here?
They were replacing the good, you know, conservative constitutionalist cops with communists.
And that's what they have done.
So on the question of, will New York City cops flee to Florida?
Oh, of course not.
The ones that were going to flee fled a long time ago.
A quarter million people fled Manhattan during COVID.
phil labonte
I don't know that that's accurate because Mamdani, with the whole defund the police stuff, and if he is actually going to have policies that either shrink the department or limit the department's ability to enforce the law, there might be more people that actually resign and decide that they don't want to be a police officer in New York.
How many?
I don't know.
Will they go to Florida?
I don't know.
But I imagine he's not going to be popular with the police force.
tim pool
And my point is that it's a small percentage of people that remain that hold those values.
If you stuck around through COVID and shut churches down, then why would you leave now?
When a communist comes in and says, hey, it's time to bring the boot down on people.
You'd be like, just like we did five years ago.
You got it, boss.
phil labonte
There's a whole slew of reasons why someone might leave now.
Maybe they couldn't leave before.
Maybe they had family ties.
Right.
tim pool
That being the case, it's not about Zoran Mandani winning is the point.
If someone wanted to leave and they're saving up money to do so, it's irrelevant to Zoran Mandani's win.
My point is his policies, I don't think, will have a substantial impact on the NYPD because COVID already did.
steve cortes
Here's what I would tell you is the difference, and I'm not excusing what anybody did during the COVID panic, right?
And cops who enforced those draconian regulations were clearly wrong, right?
I mean, egregiously wrong, right?
In what they did.
However, you have to remember, there was a national almost psychosis because there was such a mass panic that was spread with seemingly authoritative voices leading a very compliant corporate media that all did it in concert.
Why?
Because they wanted to defeat Donald Trump.
It had nothing to do with public health, nothing to do with the virus.
It's because it was election year and they thought they could beat Trump.
So my point is, though, most cops were fooled.
Most cops were fooled by that mass psychosis.
tim pool
And do you think communist regimes are any different?
steve cortes
Right.
But the point is we're not under mass psychosis now is my point.
And so given that, when Mandani comes in and says, I'm the newly elected Marxist mayor, not that I'll say it, but I'm the newly elected Marxist mayor of New York, I think the reaction is going to be entirely different now from the NYPD than it was in 2020.
And again, I'm not excusing them because they should have been more thoughtful, but the point is very few people were thoughtful during the lockdowns, right?
It took a lot of guts, a lot of thinking to stand up and say, all of this is wrong.
It's not based on science.
It's violating the Constitution.
tim pool
And every communist revolution or fascistic takeover is going to be predicated upon some kind of disaster or emergency.
So if you are not cognizant of these things when you are outright defying the Constitution, I think, if you want to be literal as we can be, will NYC cops flee to Florida?
Yeah, sure.
But what could that be?
A couple dozen, maybe?
I don't know.
Would they go to Florida?
Maybe not Florida, but sure, some might leave.
My point is I think most of the cops of conscience left a long time ago.
steve cortes
That's a valid point.
tim pool
When they were told shut down churches, they probably went, hell no.
Are you nuts?
That's crazy.
It's crazy.
People did.
Like, not only does it strike at the heart of this nation as to what the founding principles literally were, freedom of religion, it's the First Amendment, the right to peaceably assemble and worship as you see fit.
And Cuomo was like, I don't care.
I can do whatever I want.
It's an emergency.
And the cops were like, yeah, an emergency.
And then they went shut everything down.
That's New York.
phil labonte
An emergency.
tim pool
That's right.
But let me know.
steve cortes
Let's talk about the other side of the equation then, of those churches, the pastors who acquiesced overwhelmingly, whether they wanted to or not, right?
There were very few brave cases.
There were some, but very few brave cases where they said, no, we're not shutting down and you can arrest me.
So, you know, do you believe that do you believe that all the priests and pastors are also communists?
Or again, does my theory make more sense that they were submitting, falsely submitting to a wealth of guns?
tim pool
So in Venezuela, the reason the communists maintain power is because they go to the national.
First of all, starvation is a key component of how they maintain power.
They go to the National Guard and say, your family will starve or you can do as you're told.
And they say, yes, sir, I will not defy you.
Because they don't want their kids to starve.
They don't want to be homeless.
And so when the government says, shoot those teenagers who are protesting, they say, yes, sir.
The cops, exact same thing.
This is what evil is.
People believe that the deal with the devil was always going to be he'd offer you a rolls or a private jet and beautiful women.
Now the devil's going to come to you, grab you by the balls and say, I will take your children from you unless you serve me.
And they say, I will do anything you say.
So the idea that evil forces took over New York, San Francisco, Chicago, New Zealand, all these countries.
And I think we truly got to see who was willing to join the dark side and be evil.
And there's always going to be an excuse.
There's always going to be an internal justification for it.
And when the Bolsheviks wage their revolution, the cops are going to say, look, man, if we speak out, my kids are going to be left homeless and I'll do anything for my kids.
I will gladly serve the communists.
And that's literally what they did.
The priests, I don't really blame the people who have guns pointed at them when the villains are taking over with guns and saying, I will beat the crap.
I will destroy your life.
To be fair, though, I do think especially for men of the cloth, they absolutely should have said, you will not defy the Lord and kept those churches open.
And it does say a lot when they're like, a handful of guys have threatened me and my faith and my flock, and I will acquiesce.
That's insane to me.
Absolutely insane.
You'd think of all the groups, they'd be like, like, our law supersedes yours.
And we're backed by the Constitution as it is.
And, you know, you make a good point.
A lot of these guys were just like, okay, no more church.
That's insane.
Not to mention, a lot of these churches are flying pride flags anyway.
phil labonte
So are they really churches?
They're not really churches, yeah.
unidentified
Right.
elad eliahu
Only Catholic presenting churches.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
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And this Saturday, oh boy, Michael Malice, Angry Cops, debating police.
This conversation we're having, oh, it's going to get crazy.
Michael Malice, of course, he's pro-Trump, but he's an anarchist.
And so he's talked about how cops, I'm going to ruin his quote, but he said, there is no law so depraved that a police officer would not enforce it up to and including the killing of children.
That's Michael Malice.
He will be debating Angry Cops, Richard High, who is in fact a cop.
And they're both hilarious, and they're going to laugh, and they're going to get along, but it's going to be funny as funny can be.
And I think we just about sold out.
You can try and get tickets, but I think we've got a, it's like 180 something so far, and there's like 20 tickets left, perhaps.
I recommend you buy them at the DC Comedy Love now.
And if you remember, the members had an after-party last time.
Our official after party is in the 9th.
So at the 9th, we're having a bar event with like two drinks per person.
And, you know, but get those tickets and let's read your chats.
See what you guys got going on.
All right.
D42 says Elad is missing local Bolton Bro for his intro.
phil labonte
That's not a bad idea.
elad eliahu
I used to do resident neocon, Jewish affairs correspondent.
We could add to the list.
There's a lot going on.
I like White House correspondent, though.
I feel like you want to lead with your strong foot, right?
tim pool
T. Butterbow says, Last episode, Cartman was sad.
Woke was dead.
Butter said it still exists.
Enter Charlie Kirk debating woke students on college campuses.
I mean, I'll say it again.
When you are being mocked by a show like South Park, Family Guy, The Simpsons, it's when you are at the top of cultural relevance.
So when they're mocking Charlie Kirk, all that matters is everybody knows his name.
So, you know, I was talking to Sean earlier and he was like, they're going to make fun of you, Tim.
And I was like, no, they're not because we're not widely known enough for a joke to land.
The Charlie Kirk Cartman, a lot of people are going to be like, oh, like those videos I see from the colleges.
Yeah, I know who that guy is.
Plus the memes and all that.
Charlie's the most prominent conservative right now in the United States, I think.
elad eliahu
Charlie Kirk is a potent political force.
I predict he will eventually run for president and maybe succeed in that.
tim pool
Maybe, but I don't know.
He comes off more as a CEO type, I think.
elad eliahu
He's only 31.
Give it a couple of decades, you know?
Like, he's still so young.
People start their political careers at 360.
tim pool
I think it's more likely he ends up as some kind of right-wing version of a Soros type guy.
Like a powerful person.
elad eliahu
He's got money to do that.
I don't know if he's.
tim pool
Yes, he's only 31.
Give him some decades.
unidentified
Okay, hey.
tim pool
Hey, hey, hold on.
Charlie's got money.
And he's a young guy with massive success at a very young age, running one of the biggest political organizations in the world now.
And I think he's the most powerful person politically in the United States.
elad eliahu
If it's between him being Gosoros or a presidential candidate, it seems like Charlie Kirk has a bright future, so we think.
tim pool
And obviously, I'm talking outside of politics, in media spaces and political campaigning, I think Charlie is at the top.
And don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's like a pyramid where it's him and there's nobody else.
It's, you know, it's a mound.
But when you compare him to everybody else, Charlie's, look at Turning Point's yearly event in Phoenix.
Absolutely insane how massive this is.
elad eliahu
Well, it's not only just him as like a political influencer.
As you mentioned, it's Turning Point USA.
It's Turning Point Action.
It's hiring a lot of effective political voices on the right.
He has this inside-outside game where he has a lot of great relationships with people inside Congress, inside the administration, and has a foot on the outside too.
So I think this guy's a force to be reckoned with, especially down in the future.
tim pool
All right.
P. Supi says, it would have been hilarious if South Park had a clip of Shrimp censored Trump, shrimp dick, doing things to himself, watching a video of himself getting shot.
Like, come on, South Park.
I mean, come on.
There's so many jokes they could have made.
And it's funny that the liberals are like, haha, the conservatives are mad.
Like, the conservatives that are mad are mad because they're not doing it good enough.
Like, make fun of Trump better.
Just saying he's fat with a tiny wiener is lazy.
Man.
I was saying they should have done the Epstein escape heist where they break him out of prison.
And then Trump and him have a secret handshake because they're good friends.
They could have done so much of that.
They didn't do any of it.
Yeah, Trump and Epstein's secret handshake.
Come on.
And he's like, I'll get you out of here, Betty.
And they should have done an actual Trump voice.
elad eliahu
Didn't they do a whole season dedicated to Trump with Mr. Garrison?
tim pool
It was 10 years non-stop of them talking about Trump.
And all they can do is be like, he's got a small dick, I guess.
steve cortes
Well, and I think it's telling that in general, I think South Park is really funny.
So the fact that they're not funny with Trump tells me that they can't sort of check their ideology.
In other words, they're so blinded by their disdain for him that they stop being creative.
tim pool
I don't think they hate Trump at all.
They're libertarians.
steve cortes
I think they're probably Like the cops?
tim pool
I think they're just like, we don't really know how to...
We make fun of the president, I guess.
And they don't really know how to do it in a meaningful way.
So they're like, just idiocracy level, out my balls.
I won't be surprised if the next episode he just gets hitting the grow with the football.
Right.
See, it's fucking work on us.
You know what I mean?
But it's lowbrow.
I'm saying, like, as a political junkie, I want to see Trump.
I want to see a flashback where he, like, this is the joke I made.
Tulsi Gabbard, Trump, and like Rubio are breaking into the prison to break him out of jail in 2019.
And he's like, all right, take the cameras out.
And they hack the cameras and the cameras go down because the cameras were down.
And then he has a ball and he rolls it towards security guards and gas knocks him out because the guards fell asleep.
And then they go and they smuggle him out.
And then they go to a secret lair where they do their secret handshake because Trump and Epstein were friends the whole time.
It would have been hilarious.
I'd have been laughing at it.
I'd have been like, that was good.
Instead, they were like, he's gay and like Satan.
And I was like, okay, well, you know, like mocking gay people like that, I guess.
It's not really my jam.
Conservatives, I guess, are really happy with their bent.
You know, whatever.
South Park's been ragging on trans people.
Now they're saying being gay is like Satan.
You know, I don't know.
phil labonte
I mean, like you said, the actual jokes they made with the whole Trump sleeping with Satan.
It's like that is rehashed.
And it's like, eh, they are better than that.
carter banks
You know what?
They did it first with Hitler, though.
So that may be where they're going with that.
tim pool
I mean, Saddam.
elad eliahu
Saddam?
Yeah.
carter banks
Oh, maybe it was.
tim pool
Saddam Hussein.
phil labonte
Yeah, it was Saddam.
tim pool
So they're doing Trump identically as Saddam Hussein.
And Satan even says, you're like this last guard that I dated.
And it's like, okay.
elad eliahu
It's crazy how Jack.
tim pool
Well, you know what?
elad eliahu
Saddam is a bloodthirsty dictator who, like, you know, called people.
He had this one famous clip of him doing this announcement and saying, you guys need to tell me you're guilty.
And then he just started killing random people in the room in his government.
phil labonte
But I wonder he murdered everybody that didn't support him.
tim pool
I wonder if what's going on in South Park is not so much they're like, go after Trump.
It's that, I said it before, I said again, they're remaking Scrubs, they're remaking King of the Hill, they're remaking, what's the Malcolm in the Middle.
Brett was saying maybe married with children.
They're rebooting all these shows because people just want nostalgia bait.
They made Happy Gilmore 2.
It was not good.
It was just nostalgia bait.
Guys, it wasn't good.
Everyone's like, no, it was really good.
No, it wasn't.
It was just that you got to, they literally just did flashbacks to the first movie.
I'm not kidding.
He literally shows, like Adam Sandler goes, I'm not going to work with a guy who eats pieces of ish for breakfast.
And then it flashes back to the first movie.
And I'm like, that's just the same joke.
But it was fun because it was like, hey, I remember the 90s.
And that's what South Park's doing right now With Saddam.
They're like, hey, remember the 90s?
Saddam Hussein?
unidentified
Woohoo!
tim pool
It's funny.
Memberberries.
The funny thing is, South Park's got all these memes, including Member Berries.
Did you guys know this one?
South Park, an episode where it was the Berries being like, remember this?
Member that?
And they were making fun of this nostalgia bait.
Now South Park's just doing it for $30 million an episode.
Hey, I'd probably do it too.
Hey, I'll tell you what, CBS, you pay me 30 million bucks.
I will make really good episodes making fun of Trump.
They will be funny.
steve cortes
Where would you go?
I would go to Putin, right?
I mean, if you want to be smart and funny, right?
Run with that theme that he's somehow Putin's, you know, whipping boy, which, of course, is absurd.
You'd be funny with that.
tim pool
I think the Epstein stuff, like I was saying.
steve cortes
Oh, you know, Epstein, yeah.
tim pool
Well, the thing about Putin is that it's old.
And so the modern thing right now is Epstein.
And the conspiracy theory is that the cameras went down, or not conspiracy, but the reports where the cameras were down, the guards fell asleep.
And I'm like, so explain that with Trump breaking Epstein out of jail.
And then you have the press asking Trump about Epstein.
He panics and says, we don't want to talk about this.
Why is it a fake?
It's a hoax.
He runs away, goes into a secret elevator where he's in an underground lab where his buddy Epstein is still alive.
And they do the secret handshake.
And then they go, boom, baby.
Yeah, which is a callback to South Park.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
They could have done all that stuff.
Instead, they're like, let's just, I don't know, have him.
The thing about the episode was that there was no plot.
It's just Trump walking around and then random things were happening.
And I was like, that's fine.
But like, liberals are all cheering for it.
And it's like, is it just Colbert all over again?
It's just, you know, but hey, for $30 million, absolutely, what are you going to do, right?
All right, let's go.
A.K. Storm says, Tim, you talked about the right not driving the narrative, but cover viral stories.
How would you drive the narrative if you owned Fox?
And why don't you do it with your shows?
I love all the shows.
We do.
You'll notice that these like biased fact-checker sites are like Tim Pool's conservative because we tend to stick to narratives that are not led or pushed by the left.
That's the point.
So what I mean is, and it's not something we've seen recently.
For a long time, the left would drive, they would choose.
The New York Times would publish a story and it was just considered fact.
Not anymore.
Not anymore.
Now the New York Times is desperately trying to say the ObamaGate stuff isn't real and the narrative is being driven by Trump and Tulsi Gabbard.
When the Epstein stuff happened, the media very much cared about it, as we all did, and Trump launched a ton of stuff.
Now we've got a story.
We didn't even get to it, that a meteor is going to slam into the moon and blow it up by 2032.
Do you guys see this story?
phil labonte
I'm not kidding.
I didn't know that it was 2022.
elad eliahu
Seven years?
tim pool
That's it.
Potential asteroid impact on moon in 2032 could trigger massive meteor shower on Earth.
elad eliahu
Oh, Yvette, I need to get married.
Children before that.
steve cortes
Why?
Then we got to blow it up, right?
tim pool
My daughter is going to be seven years old when rocks are raining down, destroying everything and wiping out civilization.
phil labonte
Hopefully they go into the Pacific Ocean.
tim pool
I guess.
elad eliahu
Even that would screw us up.
phil labonte
Depends on the size.
tim pool
What if it just blows the moon?
steve cortes
It's going to be like Independence Day.
America's going to take care of it.
We're going to go blow it up if we need to.
tim pool
Blow up the moon?
steve cortes
Well, no, blow up the meteors before they.
We're going to do Star Wars for the moon.
tim pool
Deep impact.
We're going to get a mining team to train to be astronauts instead of getting astronauts to training.
phil labonte
Oil rig drillers.
tim pool
Ben Affleck apparently asked the director, he was like, wouldn't it be easier to get a bunch of astronauts to train to be, to do mining instead of getting miners to train to be astronauts?
And he said, shut the F up.
It's like, we're making a movie here, man.
phil labonte
Don't do rewrites.
tim pool
All right.
Arcadian Twilight says, perhaps it's time to mock South Park and Might Media and other large evil corporations in the way South Park used to.
Well, I'll tell you this.
I don't think South Park's ratings are as high as they used to be.
Nobody's ratings are that high.
And of the past, you know, like in four years, they did, I think, three episodes per year and they did a handful of specials.
And their viewership is probably good, maybe a million or two, but it's probably leaning slightly older.
Let me ask you guys, do you think Gen Z watches South Park?
phil labonte
No.
No.
tim pool
We don't have any Gen Zers in here today, but I think the answer is probably no.
Probably not.
Dude, I got to be honest.
phil labonte
They do a lot of scrolling on.
tim pool
I don't watch Simpsons.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
You know what I mean?
I don't watch South Park that much.
steve cortes
They don't watch television, period, right?
I mean, just no linear TV for Gen Z. South Park, I got to say, I assume is targeting 40 plus.
tim pool
So it's better than Colbert.
Because I'll say this, if you're at CBS and you're looking at one whole NBA every year on Colbert, think about your three to five year plan for your investment.
And you're going to be like, where are we at in three to five years with 40 million a year?
Negative.
The audience will be dead.
It's like, okay, we'll cancel it now before it's too late.
Then we're going to be losing $100 million a year.
All right, what do we got here?
Secession now says anybody who supports Israel is supporting the synagogue of Satan.
May anybody who vacations in Gaza in the next 30 years burn in hell.
Vacation in Gaza?
phil labonte
Who's doing that?
I don't think anyone will be vacationing in Gaza.
tim pool
Yeah, I don't know what that means.
phil labonte
Everything has been blown up in Gaza.
So I don't think that there are a lot of people that are going to be like, I want to go to Gaza to vacation.
tim pool
Vacant Stair says, I was very pro-Israel defending them in my personal life.
That was until they attacked Iran and ran to Daddy Trump.
They were willing to risk World War III and American lives.
elad eliahu
That's where you drew the line?
I mean, there could have been so many other things.
tim pool
Randolph Shaw says Israel is the greatest ally of the American Empire and the greatest liability to the American Republic.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Yeah, I think the sentiment is going south.
elad eliahu
I think it's definitely becoming a partisan issue.
I think this is very significant on the left.
I think its impact on the Republican Party and on the right is a bit overstated.
I will say, though, we just had our first Republican congresswoman, a Republican in Congress, call it a genocide, and that's Marjorie Taylor Green.
She recently came out and described what Israel is a genocide.
And she is one of 10 lawmakers.
All the other ones are far left progressive.
phil labonte
The evidence is that it's about generation, not about political affiliation.
Young people are not pro-Israel.
Gen Z is not pro-Israel.
And so it's not specifically about Republicans or Democrats.
tim pool
Average Americans are not pro-Israel.
phil labonte
What was that?
tim pool
The average American is not pro-Israel.
phil labonte
Yeah, apparently.
elad eliahu
I think the median American voter is not.
tim pool
I mean, this is literally just the PU data that I pulled up before.
elad eliahu
I think the median American voter is pro-Israel.
phil labonte
That's only because most people.
steve cortes
I think I can explain that generational shift.
I think it's because older people had this reservoir of pro-Israel sentiment from decades of the United States and Israel being so close.
However, for young people who are new to the situation, I think they see Netanyahu and they properly see in him somebody that we cannot trust.
Because Netanyahu has been trying to get America to intervene in the Middle East for decades, and at times through just grossly wrong analysis, you know, all the way back to the Iraq war, right?
Where he promised that he and Israel corroborated that there were weapons of mass destruction.
I mean, this is 20 plus years ago that he did that in the United States, and he was very effective at that propaganda campaign.
He has been wrong for decades.
He has constantly harangued the United States and enticed the United States into fighting on behalf of Israel and into aiding Israel.
Again, they're our friend and ally, but it doesn't mean that it has to be our money.
Certainly doesn't mean that it has to be our troops invading.
And I think young people see the failings of Netanyahu, and to them, that makes them extremely skeptical of Israel because they have none of that reservoir that older people do.
tim pool
All right.
Unit unit says, what was the story arc that had the character chef leave South Park?
I think shows like South Park and Simpsons know more than they're letting on.
Family guy, Seth McFarlane has made several comments on the show and in private that he knew what was going on with Weinstein, Weinstein, whatever his name is.
I don't know how to pronounce it.
And as well as Kevin Spacey.
There's a joke where Stewie is running through the mall screaming, help, help, I've escaped from Kevin Spacey's basement.
And he's, there were like comedy events he did where he made passive comments and everyone's like, Seth McFarland knew what was going on in Hollywood and just didn't say anything.
As for Chef, he's a Scientologist.
And the story was that when South Park mocked Scientology, it was the Super Adventure Club, I think it was called.
And they traveled to the jungle to do, you know, to bang kids to steal their life energy or whatever.
The episode was, they made fun of South Park.
I'm sorry, Scientology.
Chef's a Scientologist.
He got offended.
They said, we make fun of everybody.
You're not special.
So he quit.
But because they owned the rights to everything he's ever said on the show, they had him join the Super Adventure Club, which was crazy.
And all of his lines were a hodgepodge of various lines he said in different episodes.
So it was intentionally sounding weird and didn't make sense.
That was the bit they did.
And then he dies and becomes Darth Vader.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
Let's see.
What do we got here?
Cyborg Actual says, a lot is wrong.
I'm a Catholic, and I can tell you that most Catholics are staunchly pro-life.
I think you can't be a Catholic and pro-choice.
elad eliahu
Okay, so I don't know.
It depends on, again, how you define Catholic, but in our country, some of the most prominent Democrats over the past decade have been Catholics, and they've been pro-choice.
tim pool
Also, some of our most prominent Democrats are men who say they're women as well.
So there's a is, and then there is a thinks.
elad eliahu
According to polling, people who identify as women, Catholics, sometimes men, right, I get it.
Are more likely to identify as pro-choice than not.
tim pool
And the point is, there are also men who claim they're women.
So you can defy scripture and teachings and all of that and then be like, yeah, but I am Catholic.
It's like, okay, well, you're not.
elad eliahu
Yeah, but then it's not me judging your religion.
And if I tell somebody they are or aren't a Catholic, I'm sure I'll hear an earful as well.
phil labonte
So look at the bright side.
You're going to hear an earful no matter what you say.
So just go ahead and say what you believe.
steve cortes
But again, there's a massive split between practicing Catholics and cultural Catholics.
Practicing Catholics are overwhelmingly pro-life.
But you're correct.
If you lump everybody together, which almost all polling does, and just says, what do you identify as, then Catholics are actually pro-abortion.
tim pool
If they go to their female-led church with pride flags hanging from the wall and they pray to a non-binary Jesus.
elad eliahu
I'm not trying to make a political statement here, but there are a lot of Catholics heavily involved with many of these progressive causes.
tim pool
Right, but do you understand what we're saying?
Yeah.
elad eliahu
I don't want to start making these slurs for different religions and stuff.
tim pool
Right, but I'm not saying that.
elad eliahu
When a distinction without a difference is kind of my point.
tim pool
I'm going to go ahead and say I don't believe that if like a guy puts on a dress, he's not a woman, sorry.
A Catholic, a pro-life liberal says, I'm Catholic.
Sorry, you're just wearing a skin suit and claiming you're Catholic.
You can't hang pride flags in your church with a female priest and be like, I'm Catholic.
No, you're not.
You're something else.
You're just stealing the word.
Right.
You're just taking the word.
unidentified
Right.
elad eliahu
For you Catholics to decide, not me.
So.
tim pool
You think they're a pro-choice Orthodox?
elad eliahu
Not Orthodox, but reform for sure.
tim pool
All right, let's get one more in here.
What do we got here?
Glorified Andy Man says, sorry, update 8.7 magnitude earthquake off east coast of Russia, Hawaii and Alaska, and the tsunami warning.
The first wave is hitting 7 p.m.
Hawaiian time.
I'm in the Coast Guard.
My unit is evacuating.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Random Trader says Wesley Lepatner, a senior executive at Blackstone and CEO of the Blackstone Real Estate Income Trust, was killed in a mass shooting at the company's Manhattan headquarters on July 20th, 2025.
Indeed.
unidentified
Yep.
phil labonte
Yeah, there's a lot of communists that are celebrating that because she was a CEO.
tim pool
Clayton A says, what are the chances Tim gets featured in a South Park episode if this theme continues on?
If they have me on South Park and I'm just saying, guys, make fun of everybody, make fun of me, make fun of Charlie, make fun of Trump with good jokes.
Like, okay, I guess.
elad eliahu
They'd do Russia stuff if they did you.
Come on.
That's what they'd do.
tim pool
Or Jewish stuff.
elad eliahu
No, they wouldn't give you Jewish stuff.
Come on.
They have enough Jewish stuff on the show already.
tim pool
Maybe Russia stuff.
elad eliahu
Probably it would be Russia stuff.
tim pool
I did that with Matan over the weekend, the Russia thing.
elad eliahu
He put a Russian flag behind you, too.
tim pool
He did.
It was funny.
And he titled it Confronting Tim Poole on Taking Money for Russia Propaganda or whatever.
That was fun.
That guy's hilarious, man.
I like that guy.
He's great.
He was at our culture war event.
He's very, very funny.
And he helped make the show.
But, you know, I want to say one thing, too, before we go to the uncensored.
All these people show up and they're screaming at Pisco Liddy, the liberal lawyer who is defending Democrats and all that.
And some people were like, why are you here?
Why are you even talking?
phil labonte
Rah.
tim pool
And it's like, we invited him to debate, and he did.
And he debated a lot, and we appreciate that he did because liberals are so scared of coming to these shows.
And I'm like, I don't understand why anybody was mad that he was there when this was the point of the show.
And we're going to have him back because he's a liberal willing to defend his positions and argue and debate with conservatives.
And it's a good thing.
But none of that next week.
We have a pretty big liberal who may be joining us, like big following, but we don't know which date she will be on.
I think it'll be better if she comes this Saturday because we have more space for it because it's only four of us right now.
But we'll see.
It's going to be a lot of fun.
My friends, smash that like button, share the show if you really do like it.
We're going to go to rumble.com slash Timcast IRL for the uncensored portion of the show.
Again, follow me on accident Instagram at Timcast.
Steve, do you want to shout anything out?
steve cortes
Please go to CortezInvestigates.com to see my documentaries.
Cortez with an S at the end.
tim pool
Right, Ahan.
elad eliahu
Thanks for tuning in, everybody.
I am Alad Eliyahu, White House correspondent and field reporter here at Timcast.
Recently, I've been doing some of the most thrilling work in my career, and that has been watching ICE and Border Patrol detain illegal aliens outside of these New York City courts.
You could go check that out on my Twitter and Instagram at Alad Eliyahu.
Phil?
phil labonte
I am Phil That Remains on Twix.
The band is all that remains.
You can check out a new album called Anti-Fragile on Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify, Deezer, and YouTube.
Don't forget, the left lane is for crime.
tim pool
We will see you all at rumble.com slash Timcast IRL in about 30 seconds.
Thanks for hanging out.
Ladies and gentlemen, while the crew are out dilly-dallying about, usually, you know, everyone takes a quick potty break.
The 8.7 has been upgraded to a magnitude 8.8.
Holy crap.
This is officially putting it at the 8th tide for the 6th and 7th.
So there's now three 8.8s on record, 1906, 2010, and 2025.
This would make it, wow.
Tide for 6th, 7th, and 8th.
Knocking Sumatra off the map.
Bye-bye, Sumatra.
Holy shit.
It's funny.
Someone commented because a tenth of a point makes a huge difference in magnitude, I guess.
Yeah, it literally fucking does.
elad eliahu
It's exponential, right?
tim pool
Yeah.
Or logarithmic.
Here you go.
The Richter scale.
This is a very shitty image.
Can you pull that up?
So when you're going from 8.7, 8.8, you're making a tremendous leap in power.
Like billions of kilograms.
Fucking crazy.
It's at 8.8 now.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Yep.
So I'm going to keep tracking this because holy shit.
elad eliahu
That means Hawaii is going to get slammed, right?
tim pool
Apparently we've got some video of it.
I'm going to pull this up.
I don't know if this video is actually of the earthquakes right now, but...
unidentified
Yikes.
Wow.
tim pool
I've been in a couple earthquakes.
I was in like a five.
I was in Virginia.
When was this, like 2011?
steve cortes
So that's Russia.
unidentified
Wow.
elad eliahu
Terrifying.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
No shit.
steve cortes
Wow.
tim pool
The 2011 Virginia earthquake.
I remember that.
We were hanging out in my friend's living room, and we were all kind of feeling like we were shaking.
And we were like, that's kind of weird.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
And I looked at a cup on the table and it was vibrating.
And I was like, is this an earthquake?
It was kind of weird.
And then within like a minute, it was over.
And then we checked on the news and they were like, earthquake.
It was a 5.8.
elad eliahu
Did you see that?
And then people, we're getting attacked or earthquake.
tim pool
That's it?
Because it's weird because when you live in the city in like Chicago and a tractor trailer will drive down the street, the building might shake.
So I was like, this just feels like a truck drove by and like the building shook a little bit.
elad eliahu
I've been in one earthquake in New York City, I think it was almost a decade ago.
And in New York, we don't expect them.
And it woke me up.
And I remember thinking, holy shit, we're under attack.
I was fearful, afraid for my life.
And then I stood up.
My bed was shaking.
It wasn't even too extreme, but extremely nerve-wracking, of course.
unidentified
Yeah.
Is this...
elad eliahu
Especially if you're not living in areas where they're...
tim pool
Is that right?
0328, this wrong?
This is an old video.
phil labonte
2025, 03.
Oh, yeah.
It was like March 28th.
tim pool
Yeah, that was the other Russian one, I think.
Yeah, you know, I just...
unidentified
Whoa.
tim pool
They're saying the tsunami will hit the west coast.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
It will.
phil labonte
There are buoys that are in the Pacific that have registered the tsunami?
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
So they're saying in Monterey at 12.15 a.m.
Pacific, you will get hit with a tsunami.
San Francisco at 12.40 a.m., you will get hit with a tsunami.
LA at 1.05 a.m. and Oceanside at 1.15, you will get hit with a tsunami.
Holy shit, dude.
phil labonte
When I was in Japan, like the first, obviously the earthquake was really crazy to experience.
But then the weirdest part is for some reason we had a day off the day after.
So Tokyo was the last show.
And instead of usually we just jump right on a plane and fly home.
But for some reason, we had a day off and we were hanging out and there was nothing really to do because everything was kind of closed down and people were kind of, you know, absorbing or whatever, getting used to it or whatever.
And it felt like the ground was unstable.
There were always aftershocks going on, but basically everyone in the band decided to put a, in their individual hotel rooms, they'd put a glass of a cup of water out because you weren't really sure if you were feeling aftershocks or not.
So you kind of would just like look at the glass because everything kind of felt, you know, like weird.
It felt like there was always some kind of, you know, shaking going on.
So it was real crazy.
And there was real, like we were in the airport and there was an aftershock and all of the fixtures and stuff were all shaking around and stuff.
steve cortes
So at least like when you talk about the evacuation and stuff, I'm guessing that the Japanese being culturally how they are, I bet they were super orderly and polite about it.
If it was America, look out, right?
phil labonte
Yeah, I know.
tim pool
Yeah, except when the earthquake happened, they lied about it over and over again because of their honor culture.
They didn't want to be dishonored.
So they just said, nothing's happening, everyone can go away.
And it was getting worse the whole time.
And if they immediately called in assistance, international assistance, a lot of the damage.
phil labonte
Fukushima?
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
They could have mitigated a lot of that disaster if they just said, we can't handle this.
Instead, they were like, everything's fine.
As it degraded and got worse.
Oh, yeah.
phil labonte
What is this?
tim pool
This is a video someone posted today.
The alert went off on, says, you know, just went off on everyone's phone at Ocean Tower packing our bags now.
And this is just the video from the resort.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
You know what you do if you're in the pool, you just go underwater and the tsunami goes over you.
It's kind of crazy, though.
You have like 12 hours to get out.
So it's like tsunami's coming.
They don't have 12.
I think we have like seven hours.
unidentified
And it's like, okay, let's drive away.
tim pool
You know what's really crazy?
You ever look on a map where Tahiti is?
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Like thousands of miles away from anything.
phil labonte
Everything.
tim pool
Crazy.
I got a coupon for a free Norwegian cruise.
phil labonte
Oh, really?
tim pool
Yeah, and they go to Tahiti.
phil labonte
I'm not the kind of guy that wants to get on a cruise.
tim pool
No?
phil labonte
No.
tim pool
Put a casino in it.
Place a park.
That's what they do.
That's why the casinos always give you free cruises.
Because they're just like, we're going to trap you in the casino for three days.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
tim pool
That's the trick.
unidentified
Yeah.
steve cortes
I went to Tahiti for my honeymoon, and I didn't realize until I went there that I figured it was a French colony.
It's not a French colony.
It's France.
I mean, it's like Africa, or excuse me, like Alaska is toss.
You know what I mean?
Like, it's actual French territory, which I didn't realize how French it was, too, and the cuisine was.
So, like, you're in this beautiful island that we were in Borbora, this beautiful island sanctuary, but with some like French culture and French food.
It's interesting.
Interesting mix, but it is so far.
I mean, definitely not going again.
phil labonte
I've been to Australia, so.
steve cortes
All right, yeah.
phil labonte
Once you made that flight, you're just like, hmm.
steve cortes
Right.
phil labonte
But, I mean, it is crazy thing.
elad eliahu
France owns this.
We should own this.
tim pool
French Polynesia, bro.
steve cortes
Yep.
phil labonte
Why?
elad eliahu
Why should France?
tim pool
Bora Bora.
steve cortes
Which were.
tim pool
You went to Bora Bora?
steve cortes
Yes.
Stayed in one of those overseas huts.
It's beautiful.
I mean, it's definitely the most beautiful water and island I've ever seen.
But again, I wouldn't go back.
It's so far.
phil labonte
Hawaii.
That's And Guam.
elad eliahu
We also have that random island in the Indian Ocean.
tim pool
Look at this.
When you zoom out, look where it is.
elad eliahu
Yeah.
phil labonte
How alone?
elad eliahu
I forgot what it was.
It used to be a British island, but now it's like very militarily.
phil labonte
Have you been to Hawaii?
elad eliahu
Oh, me, no.
phil labonte
You should go.
elad eliahu
It's great.
tim pool
Tahuata.
elad eliahu
I only visit, you know.
tim pool
This is crazy, dude.
elad eliahu
We'll sleep in America.
tim pool
These tiny islands.
And there's like, hey, there's people there, man.
elad eliahu
You know where I'm going.
tim pool
What are they doing?
Why is there an airport here?
What's going on?
steve cortes
Yeah.
elad eliahu
51st.
phil labonte
Where's this?
tim pool
Look at this island.
Uahuka.
unidentified
Where are we?
phil labonte
Like all of it.
steve cortes
So I'm guessing all these islands.
Everybody's trying to get to high ground right now, right?
I would think.
carter banks
Yep, yeah.
steve cortes
Thankfully, because they're volcanic, most of them do have pretty high ground, right?
You know, they're basically mountaintops, effectively.
Most of them.
tim pool
It's crazy how Tahiti's actually, it's pretty big.
Look at this.
elad eliahu
It's a respectable little town.
steve cortes
Yeah, no, Paipette, the capital of Tahiti, is like, you know, a big, crowded, and frankly, kind of gross city.
Boribora is incredible.
That's like the luxury island, you know.
But you fly into Paipette, which is not terribly nice and pretty big.
tim pool
And then you get on a boat and go to Boribora.
steve cortes
Actually, we got on a little plane, but some people do.
Yeah, we got on just a puddle jumper plane.
unidentified
Yeah.
steve cortes
But we got married in Florida, so we're going all the way across the United States to LA.
I mean, that's a long enough flight.
And then you haven't even done anything because how deep is that water right there?
I don't know exactly, but I mean, you know, you're not standing in it.
phil labonte
At least dozens of feet.
tim pool
You can't.
This right here, like you can't stand in it?
steve cortes
But it's not deep, deep either.
Yeah, I would guess 20, 30 feet is my guess.
I don't know exactly.
But the bluest, most beautiful water because it's kind of those, I think they call them atolls around the ring.
So it's kind of like a sombrero, right?
You've got this big, you know, mountain in the middle and then a water moat basically around the mountain and then land, little thin strips of land all around, you know, forming a circle.
tim pool
So it's like it's all luxury on Bora Bora?
steve cortes
Borabora is pretty high-end, yeah.
I mean, I think there's on the center part of the sombrero, you know, I think there's some working class places where the workers live.
unidentified
Did you fly to Tahiti and then from LA to Papeet, yeah.
steve cortes
And then a little plane over to Bora Bora.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
That's crazy.
Imagine if you're just like flying there and it's like, we're running out of fuel and, well, nah, there's tons of islands to land on.
They got little airports.
Could you imagine if like a bunch of these little islands have airports?
Let me see if I can find one.
I was just looking at one.
This one had one.
Oh, there's a little city.
This is crazy.
unidentified
Look at this.
tim pool
It's like a little city just right here.
What's going on?
What are these people doing down there?
phil labonte
If you look at the Big Island, they're all of the, like, I forget what the...
It's not a big city because of the volcano.
carter banks
Yeah.
phil labonte
Like, There are no big cities on the big island because it's an active volcano.
tim pool
Imagine just like your plane goes down on Starbuck Island.
And you're like, well, there's no trees.
phil labonte
No coffee.
tim pool
There's no coffee.
It's just fish.
Yeah, look at that.
phil labonte
Jeez, man.
Go look at the cities on the big island.
Which one?
tim pool
Of Hawaii?
phil labonte
Yeah.
Like, even Hilo, the main city up there, right there.
Like, it's all just, like, I think the biggest building is the airport, or maybe, like, maybe three stories.
Yeah, they're all small.
tim pool
And that's big.
phil labonte
Yeah, that's got actual big city stuff.
tim pool
That's like not even the main island.
That's far away.
phil labonte
No, but it's...
steve cortes
That's Oahu, right?
phil labonte
Wow, yeah.
It's not an active volcano, though.
It's awesome.
It's so great.
I love Hawaii.
tim pool
Don't they have a racial slur for people like you?
phil labonte
Probably.
tim pool
How least?
phil labonte
I think so.
elad eliahu
Is that the Gringo equivalent?
tim pool
It means like mainland or white people.
phil labonte
I mean, look, they can have a racial slur, but they're like the natives are still a minority on Hawaii.
Like, they're more white people than the minority.
tim pool
Let's go to callers.
Let's bring some callers in.
We got Brian B. Baste.
What is up, Brian?
Be based.
Hey, guys.
unidentified
How you all doing?
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