July 24, 2025 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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| Tulsi Gabbard has announced she has referred Obama to the DOJ for a criminal investigation pertaining to treason. | ||
| Now, they're not actually saying publicly that there are formal charges, but Tulsi Gabbard has said this was a treasonous conspiracy in a years-long coup, and that now she has referred this matter to the DOJ to investigate its criminal implications. | ||
| And you know what I'm going to say about it? | ||
| Get ready. | ||
| Civil war. | ||
| I mean, I'm half kidding, but the reality is right now there's two stories, and we were trying to figure out which one was the league because the other is. | ||
| Across all the corporate press, they're saying Donald Trump is named in the Epstein files. | ||
| And remember, Elon Musk said the same thing. | ||
| The question is, is his name passively in the files like it mentions that Epstein had been to his parties or that Trump had been around for certain instances? | ||
| We don't know. | ||
| But the corporate press is running that as their major headline. | ||
| So let me just stress right now, there are two stories. | ||
| The current presidential administration of the Republican Party is accusing a previous Democratic presidential administration of engaging in treason for which the penalty is death and a coup against the United States. | ||
| At the same time, Democrats and the corporate press are accusing Donald Trump of being a child sex trafficker. | ||
| So when you have two groups at the apex of these power structures basically accusing each other of high crimes, like serious high crimes, I don't know what you'd call it. | ||
| Eric Weinstein called it an administrative civil war. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| But does this end with just political fallout? | ||
| I honestly have no idea. | ||
| All I can say is that things are getting increasingly insane. | ||
| Now, we do have a bunch of other stories. | ||
| Trump's apparently rejecting a lot of this. | ||
| CNN is claiming that Donald Trump is there these photos of Epstein from 1993. | ||
| The media is going heavy against Trump on this issue. | ||
| We'll talk about that. | ||
| And then Candace Owens got sued because she called Bridget McCrone a man. | ||
| It's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. | ||
| Candace is allowed to call whoever she wants a man. | ||
| And the funny thing about this story, the McCrones are actually suing Candace. | ||
| Accusing her of defamation. | ||
| I have a question. | ||
| What is defamatory about calling someone transgender? | ||
| There's something wrong with that? | ||
| Is someone going to be damaged by being believed to be transgender? | ||
| That's a really interesting argument you're making there, Macrones, in these United States. | ||
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| Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more, we've got Celina Zito. | ||
| Hey there. | ||
| Thanks for having me. | ||
| Who are you? | ||
| What do you do? | ||
| I'm a reporter. | ||
| I work for the Washington Examiner, also a contributor to the Washington Post. | ||
| I live in western Pennsylvania, and that's how I cover the country. | ||
| So I don't fly. | ||
| I don't do highways. | ||
| I don't do interstates, turnpikes. | ||
| I always take the back road because that's how I find out what's really going on in the country, in particular in the places that decide election cycles, like places like Erie, Pennsylvania, Luzern County, Pennsylvania, or in Wisconsin. | ||
| And it just gives me a better understanding about how people feel about whether it's the issues you were just talking about right now or how people felt in the lead up to the election cycle. | ||
| Right on. | ||
| Well, thanks for joining us. | ||
| It should be fun. | ||
| We got producer Tate. | ||
| Howdy, howdy. | ||
| Producer Tate here. | ||
| Happy to be here. | ||
| Right on. | ||
| Brett's hanging out. | ||
| What's going on, guys? | ||
| Brett. | ||
| Normally pop culture crisis Monday through Friday at 3 p.m., but let's get into it. | ||
| Hello, everybody. | ||
| My name is Phil LeBonte. | ||
| I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band, All That Remains. | ||
| I'm an anti-communist and counter-revolutionary. | ||
| Let's get into it. | ||
| From the post-millennial DNI, Tulsi Gabbard refers Obama to DOJ to investigate criminal implications of revelations on the Russia collusion hoax. | ||
| Earlier today, Tulsi Gabbard released documents showing that an assessment had been made that Obama knowingly ordered Brennan to release information that they knew to be bogus in an effort to smear Donald Trump. | ||
| According to this report, actually, let me just pull this straight up so you can see it. | ||
| We've got this document here, September 18th, 2020, with a couple interesting pages. | ||
| Notably on page three, they make a few points. | ||
| Let's pull this one up. | ||
| They say, so let me just summarize instead of reading through everything. | ||
| The credibility of their underlying sources was called into question. | ||
| The accusation that Russia was trying to help Trump win was based off of a sentence fragment. | ||
| I kid you not. | ||
| It never explicitly stated that Putin wanted Trump to win. | ||
| It made references to Clinton's, Hillary Clinton's ill health. | ||
| And from that, they made assumptions. | ||
| Now, what ends up happening is they go through this. | ||
| Members of the intelligence community are all basically putting their hands up being like, this doesn't mean anything. | ||
| This is not remarkable. | ||
| This is highly dubious. | ||
| And we can't include this in any kind of real report. | ||
| Which brings us to the final page, which is where it gets interesting. | ||
| On the final page, it reads, acting on President Obama's orders, DCIA Brennan directed a full review and publication of raw human intelligence source information that had been collected before the election. | ||
| CIA officers said that some of this information had been held on the orders of DCIA, while other reporting had been judged by experienced CIA officers to have not met longstanding publication standards. | ||
| That is, they had this potential tidbit from a human source that was a sentence fragment and didn't prove anything and barely insinuated anything. | ||
| They passed it around. | ||
| Many of the individuals in the intelligence community said, this is nothing. | ||
| Why are you showing me this? | ||
| And then Obama said, publish it anyway. | ||
| So that's just a small tidbit. | ||
| Additionally, in these documents, there's evidence that Russia actually wanted Hillary to win. | ||
| They viewed her as sickly and thought that if she were to win, they could take advantage of that. | ||
| Now we have this story. | ||
| Now, let me just stress as we go through this, this is interesting. | ||
| Many have said this is a distraction because Tulsi didn't say we've sent Obama this information for a criminal referral. | ||
| She said to investigate criminal implications, which is like, why the weird word games? | ||
| I don't know for sure. | ||
| At the same time, the corporate press is running the story that Trump is named in the Epstein files. | ||
| And the House is blocking this. | ||
| I spoke with Thomas Massey, and he says that Speaker Johnson doesn't want this vote to come to the floor and that people were thanking him, somewhat facetiously said this, because they're basically getting an extra day off before they go on August recess. | ||
| Now, I don't know what's going on. | ||
| I can tell you this. | ||
| The center of power of the Democratic base, the establishment, the Uniparty, is accusing Donald Trump through the corporate press and Democratic politicians of being a child sex trafficker partying with Epstein. | ||
| The sitting president and his director of national intelligence, they are accusing the former president, a former president, of engaging in treason against the United States, for which the crime is punishable by death. | ||
| I don't know how much further this could possibly escalate in the political space. | ||
| What do you guys think? | ||
| It's not even like it feels like it's about escalating. | ||
| It's like the news is always so dire all the time that, you know, the joke is nothing ever happens, but it's actually nothing ever changes. | ||
| And it's that people are desensitized to these types of over-the-top and sensationalist headlines where even if all of this is true, people have just been bogged down by so much information that they don't know how to take it anymore. | ||
| The people who have made up their minds about these people made them up long ago. | ||
| I don't buy that anybody here that thinks that Trump is a pedophile didn't already believe that there was something unfixable about him beforehand. | ||
| They already believe that. | ||
| The people that are hearing that Obama is a treasonous person already believe that Barack Obama ruined this country years ago. | ||
| Whatever your opinion is, you're not swaying anybody to a different side on these issues. | ||
| It's just more bluster for various news outlets to make money. | ||
| Well, I mean, I don't think that the motivation is to make news outlets profit, do you? | ||
| I think I'm saying that like you're like none of the people that are looking at this now are going to make anything out of this that's new. | ||
| The only thing that's really going to be gained here is news outlets are going to make money by printing stuff about this. | ||
| Nothing's going to change. | ||
| Do you think that there's any substance to any of this? | ||
| I mean, to the Barack Obama one, I have no idea, obviously, if I haven't read through that document, but as for the Trump one, I don't know. | ||
| Like, again, I don't know for all of this stuff. | ||
| I just know that most of the people that are going to consume this media have already made up their mind about these things. | ||
| I saw people talking about it in the comments section. | ||
| They said, look, I'm sick of Trump in the news. | ||
| I'm sick of this, this, and that. | ||
| But it doesn't matter. | ||
| Like, if they have that opinion, they had that opinion before. | ||
| The crazy thing is, you know, on your point, we have been sitting here for years talking about one group of criminals or another. | ||
| And the only thing that actually happened is Trump got arrested on phony felony charges in New York. | ||
| And then nothing happens. | ||
| Nothing changed. | ||
| He became president. | ||
| But then nothing changed because he became president. | ||
| Like, if he didn't become president, they would likely have continued prosecuting. | ||
| Well, indeed, the sentence, the appellate court is holding their sentence right now. | ||
| So when he's off his office, he can be prosecuted further. | ||
| Not prosecuted. | ||
| Theoretically, when Trump is. | ||
| The appellate court can then take the gavel and go guilty. | ||
| And so they're just sitting on this. | ||
| And it's been since September. | ||
| It's been almost a year. | ||
| They've been sitting on this ruling. | ||
| They haven't issued it. | ||
| And people are like, what are you doing? | ||
| You know what it is? | ||
| I'll say the court is in New York. | ||
| These judges are probably saying, if we side with Trump, the state will destroy us. | ||
| If we side with the state, Trump will destroy us. | ||
| Let's do nothing. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| They are going to sit on it. | ||
| And, you know, to your point, people are in their silos. | ||
| They're where they're not going to move. | ||
| And, you know, I don't, and they're also exhausted. | ||
| People are so exhausted about everything that's thrown at them every day. | ||
| And the level of trust in my profession could not get any lower. | ||
| I mean, I think it's minus zero. | ||
| And by the way, that's on all sides of the aisle. | ||
| That's not just Republicans. | ||
| I think Republicans, conservatives, libertarians tend to trust the press less than Democrats. | ||
| But even Democrats have felt the implication of the press not being honest with them about Biden, right? | ||
| And about his health and about his capabilities. | ||
| So I think that to your point, your point, a lot of people are looking at these stories and saying, well, the press is going to get a lot of clicks. | ||
| They're going to get a lot of money from this. | ||
| And it's not going to move the needle. | ||
| Phil, what do you think about this? | ||
| What is your opinion between the Obama story and the Trump story? | ||
| Do you think there's substance to them? | ||
| So the Trump story, when it comes to Epstein stuff, it's all stuff that's actually out there already. | ||
| So the media is trying to put stuff out, I think, because they're trying to associate Trump with Epstein as much as possible. | ||
| Being in the files, not being on the client list, being as different things. | ||
| Well, no, I mean, just the pictures, the new pictures. | ||
| The 93 wedding photo. | ||
| Yeah, so like it's like, yes, everyone kind of already knows that Trump and Epstein were friends throughout the 90s and into the office. | ||
| 2003. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And Trump said this guy's. | ||
| But were they friends, or was it that Epstein was in the social circles of New York and bounced around? | ||
| That's it. | ||
| That's a very New York thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That you are, it's sort of an association. | ||
| You show up in events and no one's going to turn you down because they know they've seen you somewhere and you've been to something. | ||
| I mean, you know, he could have been a wedding crasher for all we know, right? | ||
| I mean, but the point, but the point is. | ||
| Did you guys see the, I'm sorry, did you see the photos of Howard Stern with Epstein? | ||
| No. | ||
| Yeah, they have pictures of Howard Stern hanging out together with Epstein. | ||
| It is. | ||
| And I want to clarify that they're in the same room at Trump's wedding. | ||
| But you see how phrasing can manipulate people's expectations. | ||
| And it is media framing because when the first documentaries came out about Epstein after all this stuff, Break After Suicide, there was a Hulu documentary and then there was like an Amazon Prime documentary. | ||
| Don't quote me on the second one. | ||
| And both of them used the pictures of Epstein and Trump as the cover of the documentary because that's a way to frame the story a certain way that's beneficial to a particular political affiliation, right? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| But again, like these days, I think just the amount of evidence people would need, there would have to be video. | ||
| Okay, this actually won't exist in five years, but there'd have to be video evidence of the crime. | ||
| And even then, somebody's going to be like, it's fake. | ||
| At this point, it's all AI. | ||
| Nothing like that. | ||
| Like you said, the people that have already made up their minds have made up their minds. | ||
| And I don't think that whether it be video evidence, new pictures, testimony, someone swears they were there, people coming out saying that they were raped by Donald Trump, none of this actually matters when it comes to the people that have already made up their minds. | ||
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Right. | |
| They've definitely made up their minds. | ||
| You know, my book, Butler, right? | ||
| I was there when the president got shot. | ||
| I'm on TV yesterday, and the interviewer says, was he really shot? | ||
| Yeah, insane. | ||
| And I'm like, a man died. | ||
| The bullets went over my head. | ||
| I was four feet away from him. | ||
| I saw the blood streak across his face. | ||
| I will not entertain a stupid question. | ||
| Also, I know more about the astronomer CEO than I know about Thomas Crooks. | ||
| That's concerning. | ||
| That's kind of the thing. | ||
| It's like everyone's waiting for like a smoking gun to be released. | ||
| But the way social media works is any damning video or photo is on social media the next 24 hours after this. | ||
| The police themselves. | ||
| So it's like, it's not like there's really much out there that could be released. | ||
| Everyone already kind of knows what's out there. | ||
| It's just the way Twitter works. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, like, well, yeah, but as it pertains to Tulsi Gabbard, she's declassifying documents that show. | ||
| So on the Trump stuff, I get it. | ||
| They could have released anything on Trump and Epstein at any point. | ||
| Instead, they falsely accused him of rape. | ||
| So I'm like, if they have to make up a rape story, I don't think they got anything on Trump and the Epstein files. | ||
| Look, they had power for four years. | ||
| If there was something in the Epstein files, it would have been out there. | ||
| They knew for a very long time there was a problem with Biden. | ||
| They knew for a very long time there was a problem with Harris. | ||
| They also understood that Biden was always a fluke and he was likely not going to win. | ||
| So if there was truly something in there, they would have released it just to do anything to put the hammer on Trump. | ||
| Look at all the lawfare that they used against him. | ||
| Well, I think the Biden admin didn't want to open the can of worms that was the Epstein files because they were confident that Letitia James was going to mop up the entire situation. | ||
| I think that was their game plan. | ||
| Why? | ||
| What would be the justification if what would be the justification to not if they had the info? | ||
| If they had the info, were aware that they had the info. | ||
| Why wouldn't they? | ||
| Look what's happening now is as soon as it gets brought up, it opens a huge can of worms. | ||
| You have your buddies on there. | ||
| You have your enemies on there. | ||
| That turns into a huge, huge situation where they were just confident they could just brush it under, have Letitia James mop it up, whoever the DA in Atlanta was. | ||
| But save for Hillary Clinton, save for the Clintons, not particularly Hillary, but save for the name Clinton. | ||
| There wasn't really a lot of people that were associated with Barack Obama or the Biden administration that have been implicated, correct? | ||
| Not that I'm aware of, at least. | ||
| But I mean, there's going to be a lot of donors on there, a lot of clandestine Hollywood buddies. | ||
| So you're assuming, right? | ||
| But the point that I'm making is you're assuming that those people would be on there, but we don't have any kind of evidence of that. | ||
| I know. | ||
| That's at least the perspective I see of why if there truly was something damning and they were insistent on getting Trump in jail, they probably, there is some names on there that would have created a huge mess for the Biden Edmund. | ||
| Let's jump to this story from CNN. | ||
| Actually, this story is across the corporate press far and wide. | ||
| Bondi briefed Trump that his name was in the Epstein files. | ||
| We have this from the New York Times. | ||
| Trump administration live updates. | ||
| Attorney General alerted Trump his name appeared in the Epstein files. | ||
| And then from Newsweek, White House reacts to report that Bondi told Trump he was in the Epstein files. | ||
| This is the corporate press headline, I'm sure on CNN's television cable channel with all 17 people watching. | ||
| This is the only thing they're talking about. | ||
| Newsweek loves to bury the story. | ||
| You had to scroll way down. | ||
| On Wednesday, the journal reported that Bondi and another top DOJ official informed the president in May that his name appeared in the Epstein files along with the names of other high-profile figures as part of what sources characterize as unverified hearsay. | ||
| Senior DOJ officials also reportedly told Trump they did not plan to release more information about the investigation to the public in order to protect victims' identities and because the documents contained child sex abuse materials. | ||
| Trump responded by saying he would defer to the DOJ's judgment on the matter. | ||
| Notice how Donald Trump said, release all credible information. | ||
| The hearsay may have been that Democrats and even Trump's own intelligence, heads of intelligence, included unsourced and unverified information. | ||
| That's going to make him look bad and he doesn't want it released. | ||
| That's why he's calling it a Democrat hoax. | ||
| It's not that Epstein isn't real. | ||
| And again, I don't want to defend Trump on this one. | ||
| I'm maybe Zen is in it. | ||
| I want to know what it says. | ||
| I think Trump is probably, the point he's making is they put unverified, unsourced BS, just like Russia Gate in the Epstein files, implicating me. | ||
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| So you notice he uses words like hoax and rigged. | ||
| And people get, you know, sometimes people get tired of it. | ||
| However, he's got his finger. | ||
| It's right on target because a lot of these things are hoaxes and a lot of events are rigged. | ||
| And we don't really see it. | ||
| We don't see what he sees. | ||
| But, you know, there are clues in the words that he uses and he gives them to us. | ||
| They should release as much information as they can. | ||
| I don't care if it incriminates Trump or if it makes Trump look bad. | ||
| I don't think there's anything actually incriminating when it comes to Trump. | ||
| I don't think there's anything illegal that he's done, but he's probably worried about looking bad or being associated. | ||
| Just put it all out there because this is only making everything worse. | ||
| I don't see, unless he's actually broken the law, which in that case, you know, then there should be criminal prosecution. | ||
| But if he hasn't, put everything out there because this is just making everything worse. | ||
| If you want to play a game of power, okay, you want to get involved in spy craft and all that stuff, Donald Trump's handling of this matter is one of the worst I have ever seen. | ||
| Literally just put out fake information. | ||
| Like, I'm not actually suggesting Trump should do this. | ||
| I'm saying if the Trump administration was competent on the matter, based on what we know about the story, if we assume it to be true, like let's just entertain a hypothetical, that hypothetical, Trump is doing this all on purpose. | ||
| It's 5D chess. | ||
| Fine, whatever. | ||
| I doubt it. | ||
| This is not how you handle if there's incriminating evidence or embarrassing information in the files. | ||
| He's drawing more attention to it, making the whole thing worse. | ||
| He could literally instruct everybody just to never talk about it again, and it would go away. | ||
| People are already bored of it. | ||
| And it's a massive story that needs to be exposed. | ||
| I'm with Massey and Rokana. | ||
| We should have these documents published. | ||
| But Trump is just fanning the flames to keep it going. | ||
| Why do you think that is? | ||
| Incompetence. | ||
| I mean, like, is the idea here that this is the most incompetent thing he's ever done? | ||
| That's fascinating because it appears that this is one of the only times he's on the backside of an 80-20 issue. | ||
| I don't think that it's incompetence because he's not a stranger to messaging. | ||
| Like, he's really good at messaging. | ||
| He's really good at marketing himself. | ||
| I don't know what the deal is. | ||
| I think the most likely scenario is that he doesn't want to be associated with it. | ||
| And so he doesn't want the information to come out because it associates him with it. | ||
| But I don't think that It's an incompetence thing because he's so good with messaging everywhere else. | ||
| I mean, he's a guy that stood up and said fight, fight, fight after he got shot. | ||
| This is a guy that understands image. | ||
| And to your point, but a little more nuance, I think, look, he is the president. | ||
| He's been the president before. | ||
| Even he has seen the damage and the consequences of a fragment of a sentence used in a CIA or in a President Obama's thing. | ||
| A fragment of a sentence, a fragment of him being associated with Epstein can turn into being blown up for months or days, whatever. | ||
| And so I suspect that that might be part of it. | ||
| I don't suspect that he's in there in a damaging way, but he is all about image. | ||
| And he's all about, I mean, remember during COVID, he never wore a mask. | ||
| He absolutely never wore a mask. | ||
| And when, and when, you know, the day after he was shot, he called me the next morning and asked if I was okay. | ||
| But I also, I talked to him seven times that day. | ||
| But he also, at the end of the day, I said, why did you say fight, fight, fight? | ||
| And he said, well, I wasn't Donald Trump in that moment. | ||
| It was, I was representing the United States of America. | ||
| I had to project strength. | ||
| I had an obligation in that role to project strength, all the grit and the exceptionalism and the never back down that we were supposed to stand for. | ||
| And so when you think that way, when you want to project a certain image, not just of yourself, but you take it to the next level and you want to project it about the country, I think that gives a little more insight as to maybe why he doesn't want this out, even if the likelihood that it's not something in there that would be damaging to him. | ||
| It would just be annoying. | ||
| Unverified hearsay could be some serious stuff. | ||
| It could be. | ||
| And they'll make the argument that you can't prosecute someone on unverified hearsay, but the hearsay could be like Trump was with underage girls in Epstein doing who knows what. | ||
| And so Trump is going to be like, you can't release that. | ||
| Even though it's not going to be strong enough evidence for any kind of prosecution, court of public opinion doesn't work that way. | ||
| But again, that being said, it doesn't explain how Trump is handling it the way he is, which is the stupidest mishandling of any kind of story I've ever seen. | ||
| Because this has been going on for how long now? | ||
| Like this is dragged out over the, like, our news cycle is so lightning fast now. | ||
| The fact that this has dominated the news cycle for as long as it has is the proof that it's being handled poorly. | ||
| Well, can I just tell you guys one thing? | ||
| And this might shock you, but this is the way I do reporting. | ||
| I don't, I go out and I talk to people. | ||
| And when this first broke, the first place I was at was a rodeo. | ||
| You can't get more centrally located with people that are Trump supporters or more patriotic. | ||
| Have y'all ever been to a big rodeo? | ||
| It's literally the best time ever. | ||
| Anyways, I asked 72 people. | ||
| Not one person cared about this to the level that you see on social media. | ||
| And I often feel as a reporter that I straddle two different worlds, right? | ||
| I straddle a world where the people that, you know, just regular people live, exist, play, and think about what's important. | ||
| And then I straddle the other world, which is very online. | ||
| And it's really a challenge to figure out, well, what is the most meaningful? | ||
| What's having the most impact? | ||
| I've been saying this a lot, and I catch a lot of hell from a lot of people that are extremely online. | ||
| To normal people, this does not register. | ||
| They do not care. | ||
| Hold on, hold on. | ||
| The things that are important are kitchen table issues. | ||
| The things that are going to matter come the midterms are kitchen table issues. | ||
| And the things that are going to matter come the next presidential election are kitchen table issues. | ||
| The economy is the most important thing to everybody all the time, whether they want to admit it or not. | ||
| The people that are online, that are seeing this stuff, that are watching podcasts, they'll make a lot of noise and they're very passionate about it, but it is a small segment. | ||
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To be fair, I pulled up the look. | |
| I pulled up Google Trends. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And the Epstein files is trending. | ||
| Rivaling Candace Owens. | ||
| That's another thing I bet you. | ||
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I'm the other person nobody is talking about on a rodeo. | |
| So the top trends on Google as of right now for the United States, Brian Koberger with 500,000 searches. | ||
| Arsenal versus Milan with 100,000. | ||
| Candace Owens with 50,000. | ||
| And then the Epstein Files at 50,000, which the Epstein Files is the fourth biggest trend in the country. | ||
| So people are searching for it, but let's be honest, at 10% the rate of Brian Koberger. | ||
| That was pretty riveting too. | ||
| He's that murderer. | ||
| Oh, okay, yes, yes, yes. | ||
| That was a pretty riveting test. | ||
| Moscow item. | ||
| To be fair, so this is actually not correct. | ||
| Actually, it's number five. | ||
| Tesla Earnings Report has got 100,000 searches. | ||
| So if we go by pure search volume, Epstein files, actually it's number six. | ||
| Heat Advisory has 100,000 searches. | ||
| That's what people think about. | ||
| Well, I mean, that's why I say, like, for me, the priority is kitchen table issues, Obama conspiracy stuff, then Epstein stuff. | ||
| And it's literal political scandal triage. | ||
| If Trump doesn't get his agenda through, then people don't vote in the midterms. | ||
| Democrats gain power and Epstein gets away with it. | ||
| If Obama and his cohort aren't held accountable for crossfire hurricane Russia gate stuff, Democrats will fight and regain power and then Epstein gets away with it. | ||
| Then after those things are locked and secured, we can talk about releasing the Epstein files. | ||
| Because I will tell you this, with Trump's resistance and everything that the Trump campaign, or I'm sorry, the campaign, the administration is saying about it and Trump himself, you will get nowhere Near a single word with Democrats in power. | ||
| They were in power under Obama when this was going on. | ||
| They said nothing. | ||
| It never came up. | ||
| No activists cried about it. | ||
| No one brought it up. | ||
| You were called a conspiracy theorist if you even mentioned it. | ||
| Then Trump gets in and the story breaks. | ||
| Epstein dies. | ||
| Get a little air quote there. | ||
| Biden gets in. | ||
| Democrats don't care anymore. | ||
| Trump is back in. | ||
| He's begrudging. | ||
| He doesn't want the info released, but we are closer now than we've been before. | ||
| So choose your battles. | ||
| I want to see the Epstein list stuff come out just so that way we can put it to bed. | ||
| I would love to, you know, if there are prosecutions that are necessary, make the arrests necessary. | ||
| The people that have broken the law, put them in jail, and then the people that are completely obsessed with it can stop worrying about it. | ||
| Let them have their heads. | ||
| Put the people that have broken the law in jail. | ||
| I want to get to the bottom of this, and I don't care who's the top. | ||
| I don't care either. | ||
| We got a story from the New York Post. | ||
| House panel votes to subpoena Bill and Hillary Clinton over possible links to Gheelane Maxwell. | ||
| Oh my God. | ||
| It's all unraveling, isn't it? | ||
| And so, as I only half-jokingly say, Civil War. | ||
| Honest question, you guys. | ||
| If the power structures of the political system in this country are accusing each other of high crimes, where do we go politically? | ||
| I mean, if we as a country exist where the Democrats say Trump is a PETA who worked with Epstein and then do nothing about it, nothing happens, it's like, do you really believe that to be true? | ||
| And if Trump accuses Obama of treason and then Obama never gets arrested and then the Democrats go to jail, we're just basically all supposed to sit here and pretend that this country is in this disheveled state and just keep operating? | ||
| Are we supposed to keep living normal lives under the belief that they have told us that these crimes are ongoing? | ||
| The thing about Obama that I find most interesting, and I remember I covered him, interviewed him, and when Trump got into office, I remember how robustly my profession questioned him, pushed him. | ||
| Every day was a new scandal. | ||
| And I always thought, I don't mind, you know, he should face robust questions, right? | ||
| But that never happened with Obama. | ||
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| Never, ever happened. | ||
| You never, ever got to the bottom of anything. | ||
| He was treated very, very differently than Trump was. | ||
| And so was Biden to that matter. | ||
| And so as things are, you know, when it comes to Obama and the idea that there was some sort of conspiracy, people are more willing to believe that because they don't believe he was ever properly vetted ever. | ||
| And what do I mean by that? | ||
| Like anything that he ever did was, it's great. | ||
| It's sunshine and flowers. | ||
| We're going to, you know, everything's going to be awesome. | ||
| And so I think that there is a real curiosity out there to find out what the heck really was going on. | ||
| And what was going on with Brennan and Comey, right? | ||
| And these intricate sort of storylines that are so intertwined. | ||
| We need more intellectual curiosity in my profession to push this. | ||
| Well, but they're lying intentionally. | ||
| It's not an issue of intellectual curiosity. | ||
| It's that they're intentionally misleading on these stories. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| So the story never happens because nobody asks the question. | ||
| The way the media works is like you'll see a headline that says Donald Trump throws dog out window. | ||
| And then you're like, oh my God. | ||
| And then your liberal aunt is going like, I can't believe he would do that. | ||
| And then when you actually read the story, it's like the building was on fire and Trump ran in, risking his life to save the dog. | ||
| But as the fire destroyed the stairs, his only option was to gently toss the dog onto a firefighter net to save it. | ||
| What happened at the last year at the assassination? | ||
| They said he fell down on stage. | ||
| After loud noises. | ||
| That was loud noises. | ||
| That was the last bit for me. | ||
| I've been so disconnected. | ||
| Outside of doing this show, I feel very disconnected a lot of the time from politics, far more than I was five years ago. | ||
| And that was just one of those things, like just threw me right back into everything that I hate about the media. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| They've never taken this down. | ||
| Here's YouTube, ABC7 Chicago. | ||
| Donald Trump whisked offstage at rally after loud noises ring through crowds. | ||
| He got tonight. | ||
| I was laying on the crowd. | ||
| He's got blood on his face in the picture in the video. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yeah, there's a loud noise, Tim. | ||
| I was laying on the ground. | ||
| I had only been four feet away from him when he got shot. | ||
| Really? | ||
| You were that close? | ||
| Four feet away from him when he got shot. | ||
| The firepower went right over my head. | ||
| And I'm laying on the ground and this alert comes up with the story that he's whisked away. | ||
| And I'm like, are you kidding me? | ||
| I just had two rounds gunfire go over me. | ||
| A man is dead 20 feet away from me. | ||
| And that's the story. | ||
| That is the moment. | ||
| Nopes. | ||
| Fact checked. | ||
| CNN initially published headline, Secret Service rushes Trump off stage after he falls at rally. | ||
| True. | ||
| CNN actually ran that headline. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| We were in Wisconsin getting ready for the RNC event. | ||
| The first thing is my phone's blowing up. | ||
| It's ringing off the hook and I open it. | ||
| And it was before we knew if Trump was alive. | ||
| Literally the moment the shots went out, people were texting me like, shots fired, shots fired. | ||
| And I'm getting like DMs and I pull it up and I'm watching the videos and waiting for someone to post the aftermath. | ||
| And then we start seeing these come out minutes later. | ||
| Anybody watching knew exactly what happened. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So that day I was supposed to interview him and he wanted to see me. | ||
| I was supposed to interview him before then. | ||
| And then it became that I was going to fly to Bedminster and do the interview on the plane. | ||
| Before he went out of the rally, five minutes before he's shot, he wants to say hi to me. | ||
| So I see, I'm like one of the last people we talked to before he went out. | ||
| And The next morning, he calls me at 0 dark 30 and asks, Selena, are you okay? | ||
| Is your daughter okay? | ||
| And gee, I'm really, really sorry that we didn't get to do that interview. | ||
| I think I know what damning information may be in those Epstein files about Trump. | ||
| It may be that Trump was actually, take a look at this, friends with Bill Clinton. | ||
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No. | |
| Could you imagine if people found out? | ||
| I think they were friends, right? | ||
| The Trumps and the Clintons. | ||
| Wouldn't it be like the ultimate letdown if after it all ends, he gets like locked up for real estate fraud because of the Epstein files? | ||
| Like he did some shady, he wanted to buy little St. James, and that's what he goes to jail for. | ||
| Real estate is not a problem. | ||
| It's like in it, it's a quote from him saying, I knew that my private penthouse at Trump Tower was not 30,000 square feet. | ||
| That's the only quote that's in there. | ||
| It's like, oh, we got him. | ||
| Everybody knows. | ||
| It was like 04, he did have a bidding, like after the split between him and Epstein, they did have a bidding war over a property in Palm Beach 04. | ||
| So they were rivals at that point. | ||
| So it's like they went and then all of a sudden now there's these fierce rivals. | ||
| I like the idea that Trump wants to take him down just because he's mad about the bidding war. | ||
| I hate that guy. | ||
| And look, this was all coming up again because there was a clip going around of, you know, because Stephen Colbert is throwing his hissy fit about being, you know, losing $40 million a year. | ||
| And they were posting this clip from several years ago of Claire Daines on the show where she accidentally admits that like the Intel agencies are in contact with the media. | ||
| And then Stephen Colbert is trying to shut her up. | ||
| Like, let's move on. | ||
| Yeah, he changed the conversation. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Absolutely a media. | ||
| And that's the stuff. | ||
| It's like, I can't anymore. | ||
| I can't with this stuff. | ||
| The thing about my profession, largely in network news, is that they all live in the same super zip codes in either New York or around Washington, D.C. And they all, you know, sort of hang out. | ||
| They go to the same bars. | ||
| Their kids are on the same soccer field. | ||
| And they all intertwine and use each other as sources. | ||
| And so it is difficult to separate them from each other and not understand that they're often working together to get stories out. | ||
| I mean, that's the fact that all of them live in the same, like you said, the same zip codes, that used to be kind of the excuse for the left-leaning bias, right? | ||
| It used to be where the people that were in urban areas, they were like, well, you know, of course the media has a bit of a liberal bias. | ||
| They all live in cities, but they try to be fair. | ||
| Even though they called middle America flyover country, they're still trying to be fair. | ||
| And I think that with the election of Barack Obama and then the election of Donald Trump really is what made it clear that it's not actually about just that they have a left-wing bias. | ||
| It's that they wanted that access to the Democratic Party and to the establishment. | ||
| And they wanted to feel like they were actually part of the policymaking apparatus of the United States, unelected, but they were the mouthpiece of the Democrat Party and unofficially the mouthpiece of the administration. | ||
| Yeah, and that's the challenge being a reporter that lives out in the middle of western Pennsylvania because, you know, I have very little access to traditional power when you think of presidents and lawmakers. | ||
| But to me, the real power is the people I cover. | ||
| And it's people in Erie, Pennsylvania that decided this election. | ||
| It's not anybody that's having drinks at a bar in D.C. that decided anything. | ||
| And I think that detachment and inability to control the people in Erie, Pennsylvania is what has led to some of the things that we have seen happen to Trump because he is such a disruptor, right? | ||
| And I've never understood why we didn't think that disruption would eventually come to American politics. | ||
| Everything that we do is disruption, right? | ||
| Think about AI. | ||
| That disrupts everything, but it also pulls us together. | ||
| In Western Pennsylvania, you know, that silver you were talking about and where AI is going to be made? | ||
| Well, it's going to be made in Western Pennsylvania because we have the natural gas to fuel it, and they need so much gas, right? | ||
| So everything, that power base is actually being taken away from them. | ||
| And it's going to be the people in the middle of the country that make the AI, the data power centers. | ||
| Let's jump to this next story from the Daily Mail. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| The White House is making phone calls. | ||
| Now, at least there's a couple people who have claimed they've had private meetings with people in the administration on the issue of Epstein. | ||
| Of course, the mail buries the story, which is pertinent to the public. | ||
| But they go on to mention way down below, Tim Dylan. | ||
| Now, this story most people know, met with J.D. Vance. | ||
| And Vance said they do not have videos of any powerful person in a compromising position. | ||
| That's the party line before Market with Skepticism. | ||
| That's the party line they're going with. | ||
| What I told Vance is that if you don't disclose everything, you're done. | ||
| Nobody will support you guys. | ||
| You are fully and completely part of this cover-up if everything doesn't come out. | ||
| I think it paralyzes their presidency. | ||
| He said, Dylan, Alex Jones appeared in his podcast on Monday to say that he too has been contacted by the White House. | ||
| I've had the White House call up and be like in the last week. | ||
| What do you want? | ||
| Jones said, I want you to do what you were elected to do. | ||
| Dylan replied, they want this to go away, but it's not going to go away until they disclose the information they have. | ||
| The Daily Mail can also report that White House reached out to Charlie Kirk, the highly influential leader of the youth movement organized under TPUSA. | ||
| I am not minimizing this, Kirk said in his podcast. | ||
| I am just the messenger here. | ||
| I am simply the interlocutor. | ||
| The young men and the Gen Z audience that I represent, they are flaming mad about this stuff. | ||
| Kirk explained the conservative, the conservative people he speaks to refuse to drop the issue because they want to go after the deep state of the government. | ||
| Trump, increasingly irritated at the fixation of erstwhile allies, picked up the phone to Kirk. | ||
| A day later, Kirk appeared to backpedal. | ||
| Honestly, I'm done talking about Epstein for the time being. | ||
| I'm going to trust my friends in the administration. | ||
| I'm going to trust my friends in the government to do what needs to be done, solve it, balls in their hands. | ||
| Now, I want to clarify this. | ||
| He was referring to on the show at that one moment. | ||
| Basically, like when we talk about stories and say, okay, we're going to wrap that story up for now and move on. | ||
| They're making it seem like he was saying, I'm done with the issue. | ||
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| He wasn't. | ||
| They're going to mention that Bondi and Blanche said in the coming days they would be speaking with Ghylaine Maxwell. | ||
| And you guys get the point. | ||
| For his part, Sanovich told the Daily Mail he had not been leaned on by anyone in the White House to stop talking about Epstein and added that he would refuse to do so if asked. | ||
| He warned this might be the only issue where the MAGA base will truly assert itself on about any other issue. | ||
| Trump can drive the train wherever he wants, not on Epstein. | ||
| I do believe the White House is probably making phone calls to various influencers. | ||
| We are not included in that. | ||
| Nobody's called me. | ||
| Why not, huh? | ||
| Why not? | ||
| I'm not an influencer. | ||
| How come they don't call me? | ||
| You say, Tim. | ||
| And I got people commenting saying Tim got the call. | ||
| And I'm like, I wish. | ||
| I thought they passed a lot a note when he was in the White House briefing or to give this to Tim. | ||
| They called Candace Omens about calling Bridget McCone a man, but they won't call me about this stuff. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| They didn't invite me to this either. | ||
| And I can't remember who I was talking to. | ||
| I was talking to another personality. | ||
| And when the story broke, literally the day of, I was talking to Cernovich as well as a couple others. | ||
| And I got some of the information that they had put out before the embargo was lifted. | ||
| And I was speaking with another journalist, and we were both kind of like, yeah, they wouldn't invite something like this because we wouldn't adhere to an embargo on something like that. | ||
| And if you didn't, it would have busted their campaign. | ||
| Because what they did was they brought everybody in, gave them binders, and said, wait until after the press conference with Kier Starmer before you talk about this. | ||
| Then they shuttled them out the door in front of all of the fawning press where they all took pictures of them with the binders. | ||
| Then they said, don't talk about it for several hours. | ||
| If those individuals took that binder and said, I will not embargo this and opened it up, they would have been like, this is all publicly available information. | ||
| You've given me nothing. | ||
| And it would have immediately spoiled. | ||
| If one person, one influencer went in there and said, this stuff is already been publicly disclosed and unredacted, all the rest of them would have been like, whoa, whoa, I'm not doing this. | ||
| So they chose the people they thought wouldn't play hardball. | ||
| Cernovich, to his credit, is actually in the photos walking away. | ||
| It appears he's trying not to be caught because he's like, I want to read this and be respectful. | ||
| And then once he did, again, he contacted me. | ||
| I think I reached out to him or he reached out to me. | ||
| I can't remember. | ||
| I think he reached out to me. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| And was like, yo, check it out almost right away. | ||
| And we were like, okay, I don't know what's in those binders yet, but we got this letter that said that the information was being withheld by SDNY. | ||
| And then sure enough, I think the first person to post the letter was Benny Johnson almost immediately. | ||
| And everyone laughed because they're like, oh, Benny broke the embargo. | ||
| But now the embargo is broken. | ||
| It's fair game. | ||
| But I think, you know, the people they brought in, you know, I don't want to disparage any of these people. | ||
| I don't, you know, they are who they are. | ||
| I think Cernovich does great. | ||
| I'm a big fan of Cernovich actually. | ||
| I respect him a lot. | ||
| He's awesome. | ||
| But there are a handful of people that are smiling and dancing around and waving these things in the air, seemingly more excited that they're included than that they're going to be part of any kind of accountability, of which we never got any. | ||
| So it looks like, at least to a certain degree, there is evidence that the White House is making phone calls to people to try and control the narrative. | ||
| They're very upset about this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, the Cernovich thing, that was just such a self-own if you're like a White House press person, because that's like, if you're thinking of the Epstein story, Cernovich is like one of the top guys. | ||
| I mean, it'd be like getting Greta Van Sussen to like drop the white girl in Aruba, whatever that case was. | ||
| It's like, that's like the thing. | ||
| He's not going to drop that. | ||
| So that was like a total, total self-owned. | ||
| And then, yeah, like you said, the other guys that came along and they're smiling. | ||
| It's like, yo, this is a case about like molestation, like child crimes, crimes, you know, involving children. | ||
| And they're like smiling and just like, this is the greatest thing ever. | ||
| Like it's a red carpet. | ||
| And I'm just like, it was like an F you to the press. | ||
| It was, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, but it's like, this isn't, this is like something super heinous, which everyone knows. | ||
| That's the problem. | ||
| I was talking about this last the last week I was on. | ||
| I was like, look, people, there's like a disconnect once you start working in this medium. | ||
| Like there's a disconnect between the heinousness of crimes or the seriousness of the policies and the things that are being discussed and your ability to relay that information back in the day when it was through corporate press. | ||
| You had a guy in a suit. | ||
| It was all vetted through however many sources. | ||
| Now, most of it was narrative bullshit, as we know, that, you know, was fed to people in a certain way. | ||
| But nowadays, it's very hard for people to tell the difference between what they're looking at through social media influencers and somebody who's like a news influencer. | ||
| And it just doesn't feel like it takes that same rigorous tone, even if we know that the rigorous tone of old was all mostly just corporate approved slop as well. | ||
| But it feels different now. | ||
| And for those people who are in this sphere, sometimes you lose sight of the fact that what you're looking at affects real lives. | ||
| Real people were harmed. | ||
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| And like normal Americans aren't in on the bit. | ||
| They're like, we want to figure out what happened. | ||
| Like, I get it's like a middle finger to the press or whatever. | ||
| It's like, we don't really care what your relationship with the press is like. | ||
| We want to figure out what happened. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, the I don't know. | ||
| I'm still of the opinion that they've got to release as much information as they can. | ||
| So, okay. | ||
| So you were saying that the people that you talked to, you said 72 people, you asked them about it, all of them said... | ||
| Yeah, but they said that it doesn't matter to them. | ||
| They don't believe it anymore. | ||
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It's not that they don't care that kids got hurt. | |
| They don't believe that it's true. | ||
| It's not that. | ||
| It's just that it doesn't rise to the top of... | ||
| That's really what it boils down. | ||
| You can take that as simply as why they've never bought into the whole press and push on climate change. | ||
| That doesn't affect their lives. | ||
| It's not that they don't care about the climate. | ||
| They do. | ||
| They don't want the earth to catch on fire or whatever. | ||
| It depends on, I think when it comes to climate, I'm not trying to derail who, but I think when it comes to climate change stuff, that really depends on your age. | ||
| Like, I remember when Al Gore put out the inconvenient truth in 2006 that all of the world was supposed to be underwater by now. | ||
| Like, the world was supposed to have ended. | ||
| And when I was a kid, when I was, you know, in the 80s, when I was a kid, it was the coming ice age and how bad everything was going to freeze. | ||
| So you have to. | ||
| I think Democrats should roll with the pole shift thing and just start just start being like, yes, we need more solar panels and electric vehicles because the Axis, you know, the Earth is tilting. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And to your point also, I imagine that if you ask those same people about the Obama scandal, they'll say, you know, maybe I think he's guilty, but it doesn't really change my life. | ||
| It doesn't put money in my pocket. | ||
| It doesn't change the economy. | ||
| And I always thought he did that anyways. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I always believed he did that anyways. | ||
| And I and so I'm not shocked, right? | ||
| Yeah, well, you have this thing where it's like with, you know, normal Americans, they've seen cover-up after cover-up after big story that doesn't go anywhere. | ||
| So they're at the point where they're just like, I'm sure they believe everything happened in the Epsteins, but it's like they know they're not going to get anything. | ||
| So what's the point of clamoring on about this bigger fish to fry? | ||
| Right. | ||
| And they've got real problems that they're really dealing with. | ||
| And this is something that happened far away. | ||
| And they don't trust that my profession has comported it in a way that has the intellectual vigor that it deserved. | ||
| And so they just have no trust in my profession. | ||
| I mean, it really comes down to that. | ||
| So then I have a question, and I'd like to hear everyone's input on this. | ||
| Gen Z is the generation that cares the most about the Epstein stuff if you go by polling data and stuff. | ||
| Gen Z is also the generation that has the most economic anxiety. | ||
| They have the least actual material possessions. | ||
| Why is it that Gen Z has the most significant problems when it comes to the economy, but this is also the thing that resonates with him the most? | ||
| Well, let me pull up this story real quick. | ||
| We have this story from Newsweek. | ||
| Trump has given back all gains he made with Gen Z in six months. | ||
| Now, the first thing I want to say is there's a bunch of views on this. | ||
| CBS News YouGov found that Trump's net approval among 18 to 29-year-olds has all but collapsed from 55 in February to 28% in July. | ||
| What we usually say in the news media when we're tracking things like this, if you're being honest, is that this is static. | ||
| This is a blip. | ||
| It's not something to take seriously. | ||
| When polls deviate so substantially from all other polls, mention them, but give pause because errors happen a lot. | ||
| Like Iowa. | ||
| That wasn't, I don't know if that was an error. | ||
| That being said, I don't believe Trump has lost Gen Z. And one of the arguments as to why Gen Z would be upset with Trump if this poll was correct is because he's not going far right enough. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's kind of the thing is like, A, Zoomers, much more emotional. | ||
| We'll say we love Trump one day and then it's all over the next day. | ||
| So it's like when a poll star calls you, it just depends on like what Trump said that. | ||
| It depends on what TikTok told you to watch. | ||
| Or that as well. | ||
| And then also it's like, like Tim said, like people on the left are like celebrating, like, see, finally, what happened to the conservative generation? | ||
| And I'm like, you don't understand. | ||
| These are people that are falling to the right of Trump that are like, whoa, he's like folding on like the farmer immigration raids. | ||
| Like, what? | ||
| I want a 10 million people gone. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| But this is a huge point. | ||
| Trump said numerous times, you know, the farmers or farmers are good people. | ||
| They've been here for years and they need to work and the hospitality as well. | ||
| And immediately these people are like, boo, like, no. | ||
| Literally. | ||
| Because we're talking about Gen Z's birthright being given away to non-citizens. | ||
| Yeah, we have a bit more urgency. | ||
| Okay, yes, you know, we get the label of being panican sometimes, but we do feel like our inheritance was stolen to a large degree. | ||
| So anytime that we see anything going against Trump's promise to sort of reclaim, make America great again, we take it a little bit more emotionally than older people. | ||
| You're catastrophic. | ||
| So then back to my question, why is it that they care the most about Epstein and they care when they have the most economic stuff to worry about? | ||
| Because the girls were their age. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It's that simple. | ||
| They can see themselves in those girls' ages. | ||
| And in terms of the economy, I would say that they're happy with how things are going with the economy. | ||
| In particular, in my state, right? | ||
| You see what's happened. | ||
| I mean, people in my state are very, very happy. | ||
| Just what you see what happened with the U.S. deal. | ||
| Well, you've got a really business-friendly Democrat governor. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And two good senators and the president, like they were just. | ||
| Is Fetterman still popular in Poland? | ||
| Oh, wildly popular. | ||
| Do not believe what my profession writes. | ||
| He is wildly popular. | ||
| And so is McCormick, and so is Trump, and so is Shapiro. | ||
| Because these guys tend to work together with job creation. | ||
| And to your point about economic issues, economic issues always, always are the most important things to people. | ||
| Tate, why do you think it is that Gen Z cares as much as they do about this case? | ||
| I think it's because it was the first and so far the only scandal from the U.S. government that's been heavily publicized. | ||
| It's like our JFK. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so I think that's the main focus on it. | ||
| And then also because of social media, we learned a lot more about it rapidly versus like in the 60s or 70s when a scandal broke out. | ||
| It took a lot of time. | ||
| The first thing I thought was like, this is their first exposure to the idea of corruption being rooted, you know, with the idea when Trump took office that they were going to bring in a new way of doing things with the government. | ||
| People who've been alive for any length of time, who know that nothing changes in the government, take that idea with perhaps more of a grain of salt. | ||
| Whereas with Gen Z, because this was like maybe their first experience with that, that they're seeing that they made these promises. | ||
| These promises aren't being met. | ||
| I don't know if it's necessary, if I, if I buy that it's necessarily that they identified with them as much, is that they identified with the message that he initially had, and they feel like they're going back on that message, and they're kind of just making the same excuses that every administration before had made. | ||
| And that, like a lot of us who may be more black pilled than others, that nothing ever changes. | ||
| And I also think Zoomers are really good at dehumanizing people that they don't know personally. | ||
| So, like with the Epstein case, I think we're overrating. | ||
| That is true. | ||
| I think we're overrating the empathy of people seeing a name and a face through a screen. | ||
| Because if you just scroll Instagram Reels for 10 minutes, you're going to see some of the most brutal criticism of strangers you'll ever see in your entire life. | ||
| So, it's like, I wish that were the case, but I really don't think it's like an empathy thing. | ||
| Cause I think even me, just because that's how we grew up, we just see like, oh, well, that doesn't happen to me. | ||
| That kind of stuff doesn't happen to me or my friends. | ||
| That's something that happens far away. | ||
| And there's not really much empathy. | ||
| It's just because we've been like your brains are just completely overcooked on social media. | ||
| You're just, you're meeting like millions of people on a daily basis through your reels, through different names appearing. | ||
| You're meeting millions of people. | ||
| You're not going to clock them all as human beings. | ||
| So let's just think about my old generation. | ||
| Think about some of the things that we've gone through. | ||
| Which generation are you? | ||
| So it's actually called the generation Jones. | ||
| It's in between boomer and X. We're not really boomers, and we're not really X. And it's called Jones generation because you want what the Joneses have. | ||
| Right? | ||
| It was that. | ||
| So in my lifetime, I saw a president shot. | ||
| I saw his brother shot. | ||
| I saw Martin Luther King shot. | ||
| I saw George Wallace shot. | ||
| Malcolm ex, Ronald Reagan. | ||
| I saw the 1960s guys. | ||
| Let me just tell you, that was some wild stuff. | ||
| And so I understand your point, but I still think there's an empathetic quality to your generation. | ||
| I see it all the time. | ||
| I mean, yeah, I think to each other, we're probably, I would even argue, more empathetic than a lot of previous generations, like to people you know personally. | ||
| The problem is we don't know that many people personally because our social structures are completely busted. | ||
| Is it true that there are Gen Zers throwing their phones away? | ||
| No. | ||
| I don't believe it's busted. | ||
| It's propaganda. | ||
| Oh, God, no, that is not happening. | ||
| They were like that there were a group of Gen Z that have started putting their phones and leaving them and going out in the world. | ||
| I'm like, no, they're not. | ||
| They don't know what the world is. | ||
| There was people, there was a thing going on for a while where influencers were buying dumb phones and then making videos about using dumb phones. | ||
| There's my phone. | ||
| Yeah, and they're like, and then they're coming back like shaking with withdrawals. | ||
| They're like, I did it. | ||
| I went three hours without my phone and holy crap. | ||
| But, you know, it was like when they did like quiet walking, which was just walking without your phone. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
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| When it comes to the way that Gen Z has matured, I think that the trauma that they've seen in their life, for lack of a better word, I mean, they saw the 2008 economic crash when they were little. | ||
| I mean, how old were you when that happened? | ||
| I was seven. | ||
| Seven? | ||
| So you may not have known the repercussions, or maybe it didn't affect you, but there was a lot of people whose families lost everything. | ||
| You had Rush Limbaugh on the car. | ||
| I was fired up. | ||
| Let's go after him. | ||
| But there's a lot of Gen Z that had really bad experiences because of that because their families had bad experiences because of that. | ||
| And then they had, you know, 10 years later, they had COVID, or 11 years, 12 years later, they had COVID, which really destroyed their, you know, their social lives. | ||
| All their social structure. | ||
| It tore, they didn't get a ton of the things that kids normally get. | ||
| You know, and I think that those, then they had the whole, then they found out that COVID was a lie or there was so much around COVID that was a lie, not the actual, you know, not whether or not COVID existed, but like all of the things that went along with COVID were a lie. | ||
| Then they then they watched the whole Joe Biden, you know, entire presidency was a lie. | ||
| So, I mean, I guess that it makes perfect sense that they're cynical. | ||
| But I don't know, I don't know why they still have so much, like, how much, they have so much, I don't know what the word for it is. | ||
| So they feel like Epstein matters to them more than anyone else. | ||
| More than any other generation. | ||
| There's no centrists in Gen Z because what I can at least respect. | ||
| All Zumerwaffen are communists. | ||
| What I can at least respect about a communist is they've also identified that the current, whatever's going on is not working whatsoever. | ||
| So it's like, okay, they're evil, you know, Marxists. | ||
| It's like they're trying to kill me. | ||
| But at least, you know, they have also identified that there's an issue. | ||
| And that's kind of the problem. | ||
| That's why people like Epstein, there's no one's going to have a moderate take on Epstein. | ||
| You're just describing the basic process by which we've got the Spanish Civil War or Russian Revolution. | ||
| It is not, people assume it's like there's a group of people sitting in a room and they're all like, we're moderates. | ||
| And then some catastrophe happens, some clickle thing happens, and they go, I've been awakened to communism. | ||
| No, what happens is younger generations start to overwrite the older generations with more and more extremist ideology until they're fighting. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| When you see like a moderate, like a Zoomer moderate influencer on TikTok, you're just like, oh, here we go. | ||
| It's like seeing a Mormon come to your door. | ||
| You're just like, oh, what do you want? | ||
| And I imagine like being Gen Z, having to hear like millennials tell you to put your mask on. | ||
| And Barack Obama was like, they're just like, I hate you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| Like, I see the, and I understand the importance of like Zoron speaking directly to the voter. | ||
| That's like, that's resonating to a degree because it's like, it's kind of cutting past the overdone speeches and everything. | ||
| Because like the millennials, I think it was a generation of like the actual like high school musical, like the big speech. | ||
| And we're going to win everyone over. | ||
| I don't know if Zoomers really have that. | ||
| I think they want irony and kind of like just straight talk. | ||
| Zoomers aren't going to have anything. | ||
| They're basically like every single piece of content and culture that's been developed right now is for millennials. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Well, that's, that's, that's awesome. | ||
| We were talking about this earlier. | ||
| I was like, we got Scrubs coming back, Malco in the Middle, King of the Hill. | ||
| Married with children, too. | ||
| No. | ||
| Maybe what I saw was fake, but. | ||
| I know Neil's like 900. | ||
| That's my generation. | ||
| And then, but the funny thing is, I think it was you, Tate. | ||
| You were like, we got the good video games. | ||
| Or was that Kellen? | ||
| Kellen was like, we have good video. | ||
| I mean, we have Fortnite. | ||
| He was like, we got the video game. | ||
| It was like, nah, bro. | ||
| And then I had to show them the Mario Brothers movie from the 90s and Mortal Kombat and Street Fighter. | ||
| Prime Fortnite lapse. | ||
| 95 Mortal Kombat. | ||
| They're making a Fortnite movie. | ||
| They should. | ||
| I want to be in it. | ||
| It's going to be Jack Black. | ||
| They're going to roll him out forever. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know what's kind of crazy is culturally, we have talked about how when Millennials grew up, we had this insane library of games. | ||
| Constant new game was coming out: Mega Man, Mega Man 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, Mega Man X, X2, X3. | ||
| And then they started making so many different games. | ||
| You're waiting for the next one to come out. | ||
| Final Fantasy, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. | ||
| And for Gen Z, it's like you've got Minecraft and Fortnite. | ||
| Have a nice day. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You get one GTA game every you could like start a family in between each each game. | ||
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| Yeah, no, secret family. | ||
| I have two kids that are millennials. | ||
| Very conservative. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| How much of this causes people to just like when Phil asked me earlier, I was like, so what do you think about Barack Obama and Trump? | ||
| Like I'm just, I'm so checked out of all of it. | ||
| Like I just, I don't believe or trust that any accountability is going to happen. | ||
| I don't have any faith that anything is actually ever going to change. | ||
| So most of like for me, I've checked out and gone the other way, which is that it's like, I can't, the way that I can make the world a better place is like, I'm getting married is to be a good husband, hopefully have a family very soon and take care of the people in my life, in my corner of the world. | ||
| And the rest of this stuff, as important as it is, like when we were talking about last week, about like if you delete X off your phone, does anything really change? | ||
| Yes, it matters. | ||
| A terrorist could be in your neighborhood and somebody could be posting there's a terrorist. | ||
| But most for the most of the time, it's like you have to focus on what you can do in your corner of the world and the rest of it is just normal. | ||
| You're getting like Faraday bags for your phones and burying computers and microwaves underground for the solar flare that's coming to wipe out all of humanity. | ||
| I have Faraday bags for many things. | ||
| Just saying. | ||
| A lot of people live that life. | ||
| I run into them every day. | ||
| This may be pessimistic, but right now, the most logical outcome of what we're in is the collapse of the political system in one form or another. | ||
| It could mean that, you know, we've had this happen before in light ways and crazy ways. | ||
| The crazy way is civil war. | ||
| The light way is all the incumbents are voted out of Congress and there's like a thirst. | ||
| I've done that. | ||
| I think it was like the 50s, right? | ||
| Yeah, we've done that several times. | ||
| Several cycles we've done that. | ||
| Everyone's just like, everybody out. | ||
| But again, to the point where the Obama administration, Democrats, the Obama cohorts, and the corporate press are calling Trump a pedo or insinuating it heavily. | ||
| And then Trump is calling him a traitor. | ||
| It's like, pick one. | ||
| There's no middle ground. | ||
| Well, I mean, you know, we have to also remember a lot of this stuff has happened before. | ||
| You think about Jefferson when Washington was president. | ||
| He put in his Secretary of State office a guy that ran a newspaper and ran shit about Washington that was detrimental to him. | ||
| So we have always put it. | ||
| But to this degree? | ||
| Huh? | ||
| To this degree? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| You should look it up. | ||
| Accusing him of treason against the United States? | ||
| I'm not. | ||
| Treason may have been used. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| It was pretty bad. | ||
| Go take a look at the election between Adams and Jefferson. | ||
| That news media. | ||
| One of them called the other a hermaphrodite. | ||
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| It's like eight days to get there and they're writing very, very impassioned letters to the editor. | ||
| History doesn't always repeat itself, but it rhymes a lot. | ||
| Do you know who else was shot in Butler? | ||
| George Washington. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| Trump was not the only president that was shot in Butler. | ||
| If Abraham Lincoln lost the Civil War, he would go down in history as one of the worst presidents of all time, not for losing, but for violating the Constitution and arresting his political opponents. | ||
| But he won, and Congress retroactively just agreed with him. | ||
| All the illegal things that he did to preserve the Union, which is crazy. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, we have gone through some crazy things. | ||
| We didn't, you know, sometimes we get really frustrated and we don't think things are transparent. | ||
| But honestly, the way we police ourselves on X and on social media, there's a lot of transparency out there. | ||
| And we know more about what is happening as opposed to the people, you know, in Washington's time or Lincoln's time, right? | ||
| You just didn't know. | ||
| Well, I think a lot of the kind of ambivalence that people feel, maybe this is just my own projection here, but a lot of the ambivalence that is felt just comes from the fact that there's so much information all the time. | ||
| Like back in the day, you had your three, your four trusted news outlets that people foolishly agreed with and they got their information. | ||
| If they said someone's a bad guy, they're like, oh, this is awful. | ||
| Now you're just, you're bombarded with endless information about endless people being bad guys and you can't focus on all of it. | ||
| Nobody has the time or the brainpower to do that. | ||
| Back in the day, you literally offloaded your agency to this network to say, I trust them, therefore it must be true. | ||
| Nobody's doing that anymore. | ||
| You might have like a couple of influencers or I guess correspondents or people who work in this space that you, you know, you've followed them for a period of time. | ||
| So you kind of, you're going to take them at their word because their track record has held up. | ||
| But for the most part, people aren't willing to do that anymore. | ||
| Again, this might be a projection on my own part. | ||
| So the idea is like, I just can't care at all because nobody has the time to do the due diligence on literally everything that you're being told is awful now. | ||
| Well, and just to prove how disruptive just the news or their cultural curators, right? | ||
| The power that's been dispersed. | ||
| Let's just think last week. | ||
| I become, live in the middle of Pennsylvania, went to community college, and my book becomes the number one New York Times bestseller the same day that Colbert loses that, not just he loses his job, the whole entire tonight show is gone. | ||
| The late show, right? | ||
| The late show. | ||
| The late show. | ||
| Sorry, late show, tonight show, tomorrow show. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| I mean, that just shows how disruptive the time that we're in. | ||
| And it's all of our cultural curators. | ||
| It's not just legacy media. | ||
| Look what you guys do here. | ||
| Look how many people that you get to come to listen to this and learn something new. | ||
| It's very, very, probably got a lot more people listening to this than watching the nightly news. | ||
| Colbert needs to like. | ||
| What do you get? | ||
| What do you, what would you? | ||
| We do like 700,000, 800,000. | ||
| Colbert was getting 3 million, but it was largely 70-year-olds. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then we get like 700,000, 800,000, and it's mostly like 30-year-olds. | ||
| So buying power right there. | ||
| Those are the people that and all of our culture. | ||
| The problem is that Gen Z doesn't have any money and boomers do. | ||
| 18 to 49 used to be the go-to demographic because there was buying power in the upper upper half of that. | ||
| Now the problem is our demo is like 30 to 50. | ||
| We do have Gen Z watch, but they're broke. | ||
| So we can't really sell sponsorships to them. | ||
| And we don't have a lot of the older viewers the way cable TV does. | ||
| And all they're selling to them is like, to be honest, it's like that face cream for men and drugs. | ||
| I'm not kidding. | ||
| That's what they do. | ||
| Colbert needs to like, they need to go back to hating each other, like Leno and Letters. | ||
| Let's go pro wrestling. | ||
| They're like, competitive spirit. | ||
| Did you see they're all like standing in solidarity with him? | ||
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Like Kimberley, like a naive fucking loser. | |
| She compete against each other. | ||
| Sucks to suck. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Speaking of WWE, let's jump to this story from Newsweek. | ||
| Candace Owens sued by Macron over claim Bridget is in fact a man. | ||
| That's the story. | ||
| What's defamatory about that? | ||
| So this is the question I had. | ||
| If in fact Bridget McCrone is a transgender woman, how is that defamatory? | ||
| Honest question. | ||
| Now, obviously, if you're a conservative and you're a female and someone says you're a guy, you're going to be like, how dare you? | ||
| That's insulting. | ||
| And you would say it's bad for my reputation. | ||
| But the argument for them is they're basically saying it is inherently damaging to your reputation and costs you money to be accused of being transgender. | ||
| And that's the story. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That is the story. | ||
| None of the rest of it is the story. | ||
| The catsuer. | ||
| That's the story. | ||
| Like the loss is going to get tossed in two seconds and a waste of everyone's time. | ||
| And all it does is make the story bigger and give Candace Owens more PR. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| And there's so many elements to that story. | ||
| Like, it's not just like, what was it? | ||
| She was like a teacher and like she groomed him. | ||
| She? | ||
| Or he, yeah, he was a teacher. | ||
| And then like, no. | ||
| I don't know what's going on. | ||
| You're going to get sued next, man. | ||
| I could get groomed at this rate. | ||
| I mean, if, dude, if Big Manny went down, dude, any of us could be next. | ||
| I think it's funny that Big Mike has never sued anybody. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I was going to bring that up. | ||
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I was like, is that, does that mean that she's like, they're just keeping it secret or because It is. | |
| No, I think Michelle Obama is just like, you can't sue for this. | ||
| And Bridget McCrone is like, I will not be defending. | ||
| Michelle Obama's podcast is like a perfect example of like why the legacy media is failing now. | ||
| It's just, it's so whiny. | ||
| And it's, I, you know, for someone who had so much and still has so much, to have that much of a chip on your shoulder against everyone who was, who gave you grace, who gave you attention, who gave, who, who. | ||
| Who's worse, Michelle Obama or Megan Markle? | ||
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| You know, I just want to say something real quick because we got this picture of Bridget McCrone and Megan McCrone. | ||
| And part of me is like, it's just so brutal. | ||
| Imagine being this haggard, disgusting old woman. | ||
| And instead of just being called a haggard, disgusting old woman, you get called a man. | ||
| Anybody familiar with Iron Maiden's mascot, Eddie? | ||
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| She kind of looks like Eddie. | ||
| Right? | ||
| I kind of wish you could just sue people for being mean to you. | ||
| Like, I'd be in like 20 lawsuits at all time. | ||
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Oh, that's essentially. | |
| So it's two public figures. | ||
| She is the first lady of France suing Candace Owens, one of the biggest podcasters in the world, for being called a man. | ||
| But first, how are you going to prove to a court being called a man is defamatory? | ||
| More importantly, with Times v. | ||
| Sullivan, they have to prove that she actually knows, Candace actually knows Bridget is not a man, meaning there's some evidence given to Candace. | ||
| Like, they would literally need chats from Candace being like, I know she's a woman, but this gets clicks. | ||
| That would give it, you can't get that because you'll never get to discovery. | ||
| It'll get either anti-slapped out. | ||
| I don't know if Delaware is anti-slapped. | ||
| But then they're going to go to the Times v. | ||
| Sullivan precedent and they're going to say, you're two public figures. | ||
| Get out. | ||
| Why? | ||
| You can't. | ||
| Can you prove damages? | ||
| No. | ||
| This is not defamation per se. | ||
| So thank you and have a nice day. | ||
| All the Macron's did was make sure everyone on the planet knew Candace thinks Bridget's a man. | ||
| I just don't know why her husband didn't sue her for slapping him in front of everybody. | ||
| Yeah, for me. | ||
| Unless he liked it. | ||
| Yeah, he's into it. | ||
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Come on. | |
| You know, hey, different strokes for different folks. | ||
| I'm not going to rag out of that. | ||
| Now we're not judging him. | ||
| Then he saw that it was on video and he liked it even more and he's like, oh, crap. | ||
| Yeah, now they turn it on. | ||
| They turn it on while they're in. | ||
| He's like, I used to pay for this kind of humiliation. | ||
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Oh, my God. | |
| Yeah, so, you know, it's kind of funny because calling Bridget McCron a man would be akin to just saying she's ugly. | ||
| Imagine suing someone for saying you look gross. | ||
| I kind of want to be honest. | ||
| I want to be able to do that. | ||
| Take a look at this picture. | ||
| Why did they choose this photo where it clearly looks like Bridget is a guy wearing a wig? | ||
| Doesn't it? | ||
| If you could sue for insults, oh, it'd be over for everybody. | ||
| You can sue a ham sandwich. | ||
| Everyone. | ||
| Oh, Michael. | ||
| The entire internet would know me. | ||
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You're not going to win. | |
| Yeah, every lawyer in my town would know me. | ||
| I mean, I've got every 25 years of people saying they don't like my band. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Cha-ching. | ||
| Do you know that people hate me? | ||
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I'm sure. | |
| I mean, I can insult it every day. | ||
| Amazon levels. | ||
| On the internet, no one knows you're 14. | ||
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Okay. | |
| That's right. | ||
| So when someone tweets at you and they're like, you're an ugly skank, it's like, yeah, and you're a child. | ||
| I don't care what you think. | ||
| You have no money. | ||
| You're getting sued anyway. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| Give me some Legos or something. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Give me the Lego. | ||
| Candace wakes up and it's like Christmas morning. | ||
| She's like, I'm going to make so much money off this. | ||
| Oh, seriously, this is crazy. | ||
| It's like the Macron sat down and said, what can we do to make sure everyone in the world thinks that you're a man and give Candace Owens a million dollars? | ||
| I know. | ||
| Let's launch a frivolous lawsuit that lands in the press and everyone will talk about it. | ||
| It was really poorly thought out. | ||
| It just continues the story. | ||
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| It just continues the story. | ||
| It's made it from like, oh, this is kind of funny that Candace is doing that to like, what's, is there something? | ||
| I want to get on this. | ||
| I think Emmanuel Macron is a man. | ||
| I'm not convinced. | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| Well, figuratively, like in spirit, no. | ||
| But I'm pretty sure, based on those pictures, he's a guy. | ||
| Pick somebody more novel. | ||
| Like, I think Pete Buttigieg is a man than might be a bridge too far. | ||
| So, you know, what's really funny is you guys remember transvestigations? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
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So, so, yeah, so back in the day, this still happens all the time. | |
| These woke leftists and gender activists find pictures of random women on the internet and then accuse them of being secretly men who transitioned. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| And that's what Candace Owens did here. | ||
| She did probably the most notable trans investigation we've ever seen and got sued for it. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| 2025 is crazy. | ||
| Well, they've been doing trans investigation for a long time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| At least a decade. | ||
| There's the inverse one now where like right-wingers will take like just like a 10 out of 10 woman and post it on like a trans subreddit and be like, oh, right, right. | ||
| Do I look good? | ||
| What do you think? | ||
| Three months in? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And then dudes just be like flipping out. | ||
| I don't even pass. | ||
| That's probably what she saw. | ||
| Get over here, manning. | ||
| That's probably what she saw. | ||
| What if like the trans subreddits are literally just male zoomers? | ||
| All screwing up. | ||
| Everyone's just mentally distrained. | ||
| Just wasting time. | ||
| Well, I mean, y'all got, you got, you guys grew up dancing to that hot dog garbage from Disney, so you're weird, dude. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| You see how you're cooked. | ||
| That's a huge generational divide. | ||
| That song's a banger. | ||
| Hot dog. | ||
| I'm going to pull. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| It's a dog. | ||
| Listen to that song. | ||
| They got good taste. | ||
| They got good taste. | ||
| Now it's stuck in my head. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| One hour longer. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Look, she's hitting that. | ||
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Look. | |
| It's a goofy. | ||
| Goofy's got to go. | ||
| It's got to go in. | ||
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You know. | |
| You've been hitting that, dude. | ||
| This video is one hour long. | ||
| Not long enough. | ||
| But then. | ||
| Not long enough. | ||
| Are you serious? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| You're pretty smart for having absorbed that kind of stuff. | ||
| What did you do? | ||
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What happened? | |
| What did your parents do? | ||
| You locked in. | ||
| I watched this. | ||
| I didn't watch that. | ||
| My mom tried to make me watch Baby Einstein. | ||
| I was like, get this crap off of Mickey. | ||
| Where's Mickey? | ||
| Kids, yo, this is why I'm saying, like, Gen Z, Gen Alpha is going to be a bunch of, like, they can't read. | ||
| They can't read. | ||
| They can barely speak. | ||
| They don't know to answer. | ||
| Like, these teachers are talking about in school, Gen Alpha are just basically drooling at their desks. | ||
| The schools are going to be like dog shelters. | ||
| They're all just like, take me home. | ||
| It's going to be bad, dude. | ||
| It's going to be wild. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You know, but the conspiracy theory is that it was intentional that the globalists, they call, again, this is a conspiracy theory. | ||
| The purpose of the COVID educational stunt was to force developed nations to, you can't force the bottom up, but you can cut off the tallgrass. | ||
| So the idea is if you force a developed nation's children to be stunted by a decade, it will level them out with the rest of the nations and then force them to all start developing at the exact same time. | ||
| So it was an attempt at normalization. | ||
| So Gen Alpha are going to function like third worlders. | ||
| I don't know, because like the third world countries had the toughest crackdowns. | ||
| Like my friends were in Trinidad. | ||
| They wanted everybody to be basically like, boom. | ||
| They're like, you can't go outside all day. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| Maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe the real story is the aliens are like, humans are developing too quickly. | ||
| Let's pull them back together. | ||
| You've seen Mickey Mouse? | ||
| They're getting pretty good. | ||
| We might need to nip it in. | ||
| Yeah, Goofy's hitting that. | ||
| It's going to nip it in the bud. | ||
| It's a possibility. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| No, I totally agree. | ||
| Like, it's really sad. | ||
| Like, I went to my college career coincided with COVID, like, almost to a T. And it's like, I see, like, I'm learning new social skills at like 24 that I should have learned when I was 18 or 19. | ||
| But I just got like nuked right off the rip. | ||
| Like, I got spawn killed, basically. | ||
| I was just talking to a dude. | ||
| Spawn killed. | ||
| I was just talking to a guy and he was like, you know, oh, so you had a kid? | ||
| And I was like, yeah, he's like, how old? | ||
| And I was like, five months now. | ||
| And he's like, oh, okay. | ||
| He's like, I got two, 17 and 12. | ||
| I was like, 17? | ||
| How old are you? | ||
| And he's like, 38. | ||
| And I was like, oh, yeah, that's normal. | ||
| That's normal. | ||
| People were going crazy when Ilhan Omar's daughter was protesting and they were like, she's 21. | ||
| How old is she? | ||
| What? | ||
| Like, yeah, Ilhan Omar is like 40-something. | ||
| She's like, what is he, like, 43? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| So she had a kid at a normal age, like people do. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And millennials are just permanent children who are like, I can't believe you had a kid at a normal age. | ||
| I'm 40 and I just had my first. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| They were just hit with so much propaganda, so much propaganda in their early 20s to prevent them from having families, getting married. | ||
| Well, the economy, bro. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| I ain't about to have a kid in 2008. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I was trying to be a dishwasher. | ||
| Like a lot of the stuff that I see about that feels like, as true as it is, like you see these intellectual think pieces about why people were the way they were during the 2008 collapse. | ||
| But it really was like you were told, you have time, just wait, you know, get your degree, do this, this, and that. | ||
| And they kind of grew up in a world where there was so much media being thrown at them that they're like, they were numbed to the idea that the world isn't as easy as like what you see on TV, where like all the boring andan stuff that takes time, like making appointments and doing all these, like, you never see that in the movies and the TV shows. | ||
| Now they get up, they're like, my mom doesn't make my appointments anymore and I'm dying. | ||
| Can I just point out that Disney turned comments off on their psycho babble garbage? | ||
| And I bet the thumbs down, there's 121 million views with only 316,000 thumbs up, implying the thumbs down it's going to be over a million. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| You know, and I was like, the little kids that watch it can't like. | ||
| No, it's because regular people are probably saying this is bad mind like brain garbage. | ||
| And Disney doesn't care because they've made probably like 10 million bucks on this or something. | ||
| They're enemies. | ||
| Hey, you got to get on this. | ||
| No, it's like China. | ||
| They're like, we can't let them have this. | ||
| You got to get on it. | ||
| You can downvote it. | ||
| You got to get on YouTube and start making some fake accounts and thumbs up. | ||
| Like to that point is like the one thing about the economy, because people always really attribute the birth rate crisis to the economy, but it's like the birth rate was going down by 1980. | ||
| Like it's been descending at America's peak economy. | ||
| And then now like a lot of these other theories are breaking down. | ||
| Like Columbia's TFR is lower than ours. | ||
| Colombia is not a developed country by any stretch of the imagination. | ||
| So it's like every theory that we had about TFR relating to the economy or even like – That's the primary 100%. | ||
| Yeah, because in the 1970s when i'm getting out of high school like half my class was married before they were 20 and had three kids by the time they were 25 and by the way the economy in 1977 sucked we used to have to wait in line to get gas and you and you pittsburgh like in what kind of building oh in my family home in oh in a house | ||
| Your house? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Yeah, I bought-During a bad economy, people owned houses. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Now we have, allegedly we have a good economy, and a bungalow costs half a million dollars in rural West Virginia. | ||
| The same house that I bought in 1980, which was $34,000, I was probably making $12,000 a year at that time. | ||
| Is now, that house just recently sold for $365,000. | ||
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It's the same house. | |
| And your parents and your grandparents are like, you can own a house too, just don't drink Starbucks, and when you apply for a job, give a firm handshake. | ||
| Yeah, and you know what? | ||
| You just had kids. | ||
| Nobody told us, oh, don't have kids. | ||
| You just had them if you didn't have a good job. | ||
| A 900 square foot house in Chicago where I grew up is $215,000. | ||
| that's that's another boomerism that's this room and it's like where they're like if you need a job have you just walk in there with a resume and i'm like yeah they call security yeah if you did that now they like tell you to kill yourself we got the so this the us these two rooms uh should be i think about a thousand square feet yeah yeah the dollar that's the size the dollar it's it's it's uh no it's a little bit more than that actually i think it's 1500. | ||
| Guys, the dollar has lost 99% of its value versus gold since 1971. | ||
| It's okay, Phil. | ||
| Pull yourself up. | ||
| Oh my God. | ||
| It's actually almost 2,000 square feet, these two rooms. | ||
| So you can sell just this top floor. | ||
| Yeah, you can rent it out. | ||
| This is it. | ||
| This is all you got. | ||
| Can you leave or don't record? | ||
| Check this out. | ||
| The federal minimum wage in 1970 was $1.60 an hour. | ||
| Gold was pegged at $35 an ounce and backed a dollar which meant one hour of work was valued at 0.046 ounces of gold in today's money that would be 150 dollars an hour versus the current federal minimum wage of 725. | ||
| it's because the government has been irresponsible with the dollar and with the value of our currency and because and the the productivity that has come with modernization from the 70s has not transferred out to the average worker yeah yeah and the thing yeah well it doesn't even i i agree about the fed but it's not even it's not even just the fed because the fed started in 1913 and from 1913 until the 70s totally you know the | ||
| responsibility and like printing that much like when i saw m1 in 2020 i said well we're gonna have a really terrible next decade you're an economist we are yeah i'm an economist and like dude we're having a really terrible decade so hopefully we can pull ourselves up by our bootstraps it was like we did the 70s i was looking at these documents i guess watching all of these documentaries about like ruby ridge or like domestic terrorists and they're all like it's all these guys who go and they have all these complaints and grievances with the government but they buy like a plot of land for like five | ||
| dollars and a pack of bubble gum yeah and i'm like if that happened today if you could have all these grievances but then somebody's like i'll sell you this land for like a thousand dollars you're like maybe it's not that bad yeah like maybe i could just build a house even worse colts are operating in like studio apartments now don't come in here well you can't come it's get evicted it's over colt's over sorry guys we missed the missed the spaceship yeah what's the price of kool-aid today anyways i don't even know how you could uh make the kool-aid they | ||
| could afford the nikes yeah yeah have you seen how expensive shoes are luke is throwing shade at you uh serge oh yeah i said you're an economist and luke goes if he's an economist i'm a gynecologist oh yikes everyone knows that luke has never seen a vagina yeah it's not clam luke i would uh old milk right now is at four bucks a gallon nationally it's kind of like think about that like um remember when eggs were just the defining factor about whether the economy was | ||
| good here like two months ago now nobody's talking about it everybody just goes from trend to trend to trend and nothing's actually real right well that's why tomorrow we're going to open the show with a review of the fantastic four film see i'm as i was telling tim like i bought my tickets today and i literally audibly sighed as i bought them because i'm because pedro pascal is in it no i just i don't care about really yep 60s retro aesthetic just doesn't interest me sure sure i got all that but pedro pascal is it it's so | ||
| he's an actor well he's just in every movie i know i get it man geez but everybody who talks about him you know he must work for cheap right no no no no he's um he comes at a high cost now i guarantee you he's an immigrant i mean he's cutting our actors remember when he played trump in wonder woman he's yeah well maxwell lord he said he just recently he's like i'll never shave my face again i look so awful in that in that movie but he's been acting since like 99 so he's actually he's one of those rare success stories where he found his fame like way later in in life | ||
| but the better question is why he's always touching the women on the red carpets because he's got anxiety watching that it's like he never gets anxiety around men it's always around women that could have been the out like harvey winds he's like sorry i get nervous it's like these red carpet events and these award shows are very very difficult sorry i was a little anxious my bad i guess robert downey jr is going to be in the after credit scene oh i never stay for the post credit scenes anymore yeah because they're meaningless yeah i just go home and somebody's put it online i just go home | ||
| and somebody's put it online yeah i just go home and somebody's put it online yeah i just go home and don't care about the celebrity gossip stuff whatever the point is our culture i think can track well alongside the mcu's unraveling into chaotic nonsense so as the marvel movies became increasingly incoherent that was tracking alongside society's increasing incoherence i mean it's because endgame was 2019 and then you know covet happened and it's that that it could be covet but I just mean like we used to follow the hero's journey, | ||
| and that was the entertaining arc. | ||
| Well, they stopped doing that just when the Lucas Story film group also stopped. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's when every, like, I don't know if it's you call it like a woke institutional conspiracy or takeover or intentionally, but all of a sudden, movies started being about nothing, and it made no sense. | ||
| It became subversive to start telling different stories because they feel that the hero's journey is a product of a different time when there was more patriarchal ideas in storytelling. | ||
| And, you know, what they perceive as stories that these days here are white Western ideals, even though that's not necessarily true about the hero's journey at large. | ||
| So they're making my book into a movie. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| And they've already started pre-production. | ||
| And I can tell you guys here, they just filmed the ending. | ||
| Peter Pascal is in it. | ||
| He's playing Trump again. | ||
| No. | ||
| But the ending is super cool because it's not just about what happened in Butler. | ||
| It's about the death of journalism and the importance of shoe leather journalism. | ||
| And at the end, you see my cowboy boots, because I always wear cowboy boots. | ||
| I saw Urban Cowboy 1980, and I thought, Deborah Winger, she's got it rocking. | ||
| I'm going to do it. | ||
| So you see my cowboy boots get in my old Jeep, and my Jeep is, last Jeep had 400,000 miles. | ||
| This one has 300,000 miles. | ||
| I think we've largely won. | ||
| The culture where I think is, it is so tremendous what we are seeing. | ||
| I even had an interview with an Axios reporter about the split over Trump, MAGA, Epstein, what was currently going on. | ||
| And it seemed like the first time the institutional press was going, we now recognize that the right is composed of multiple different political factions and that is not a single group. | ||
| And it started to realize it. | ||
| And then I guess as an aside, we're getting profiled by the Wall Street Journal for better or for worse. | ||
| I don't know what that means, but they also, I believe they profiled Bannon. | ||
| So the corporate press is basically waving the white flag and realizing that they've lost this one. | ||
| And then you can take a look at just the general shift and how there's like how movies are starting to change. | ||
| I think people realize the Bud Light effect was dangerous and you're going to lose money and everyone's backtracking now. | ||
| Fantastic Four is getting good reviews from people that I do trust. | ||
| So, you know, despite the fact that it doesn't really interest me, I enjoyed Superman a lot and the people that I talked to liked it more than they liked Superman and they did like Superman. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm hearing it's going to be good. | ||
| I'm going to go see it tomorrow. | ||
| And apparently Robert Downey Jr. is going to be in the end or something. | ||
| And I don't like – Better that than going to see Eddington, the Ari Aster film about COVID. | ||
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Whoa. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| I would actually, you know, they should AI, get this movie and just AI Pedro Pascal out of it and put somebody else in it. | ||
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Anyone. | |
| I don't care. | ||
| It's so zesty. | ||
| They'll probably do it for the China release. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| My friends, we're going to grab your super chats and rumble rants. | ||
| So smash the like button. | ||
| Share the show with everyone, you know. | ||
| The uncensored call-in show is coming up at 10 p.m. | ||
| Rumble.com slash Timcast IRL. | ||
| So make sure you go check that one out. | ||
| For now, we're going to read what you guys have to say. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Incoherent Turd says, don't worry, guys, the referral is on Pam Bondi's desk. | ||
| Just 12 or 13 more Fox News interviews, and she might take a look at them. | ||
| Yep. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Flan the Man says, it doesn't matter. | ||
| They can refer anyone they want for persecution. | ||
| Prosecution, you mean? | ||
| But nothing ever happens because nobody will get arrested, even a mock arrest. | ||
| What if they were just like, we're going to send a file so we can persecute you? | ||
| And then they just literally harass you in your day-to-day life, but never actually prove it. | ||
| We have a file. | ||
| We're allowed to do it. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Misa Mori says, couldn't they open an investigation into the Epstein files as a conspiracy in the IC and then just not release anything because it's an active investigation? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| Trump could do so much to jam this up. | ||
| He's handling this miserably. | ||
| Where's the spy craft? | ||
| It's almost like these guys are too honest. | ||
| And Bongino's like, we don't have any evidence. | ||
| And you're like, what? | ||
| I don't believe you. | ||
| And he's like, we don't. | ||
| And then everyone's accusing me of being a spy. | ||
| I'm like, bro, if Bongino was trying to pull a fast one on you, he'd come out and be like, we're looking into it and we found some sick stuff. | ||
| So we're going to get this investigation going. | ||
| Trust me. | ||
| And that would be the last thing you ever heard of it. | ||
| Everyone would go, all right, I trust you, Dan. | ||
| So Dan's not lying to you. | ||
| They just don't have anything. | ||
| Trump may be lying. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Pam Bondi may be lying. | ||
| I'm just saying they're doing a pissport job of actually covering this up. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I operate under the premise that most politicians are lying all the time. | ||
| Yeah, I was interviewing Massey earlier, and I asked him if he thought the Obama criminal conspiracy was real. | ||
| And he just had this shocked expression. | ||
| He was like, I think all of DC and everything they're doing is an ongoing criminal conspiracy. | ||
| And I was like, yes, he's real. | ||
| Couldn't make me like him more. | ||
| Except for he's a politician, which means I can't like him based on that alone. | ||
| He's like the only real human being. | ||
| Rokana, I appreciate Rokana's efforts, but I just disagree with politically on everything. | ||
| Massey disagrees sometimes on a lot of on certain things, and it is what it is. | ||
| But it's just, it's so cringe how like Mike Johnson, what was he like, he went on Benny Johnson's show and he was like, we want transparency in these documents. | ||
| And then he's like, I'm not going to let you vote on this. | ||
| Go home. | ||
| We'll see what happens. | ||
| I think Massey was saying he's going to talk to him and they may actually get it through. | ||
| All right. | ||
| The James Black says, I feel like the reason Trump is handling this so bad is maybe his son is also implicated. | ||
| Maybe it is his son is also implicated. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I think it's going to be something embarrassing but not criminal. | ||
| It's going to be really bad for his reputation. | ||
| That makes the most sense. | ||
| It's going to be like tons of stuff about how he partied with Epstein and flew on his jets. | ||
| And he's going to be like, but I didn't do anything. | ||
| And they're going to say, ha, it was Trump. | ||
| It was you or something. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't believe that Trump, again, I mean, everybody said 800 million times. | ||
| If there was anything proving Trump was involved in Epstein's business, Democrats would have dumped that first thing. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I don't know. | ||
| I feel like what's what it is. | ||
| I think that there's probably economic information in there and that he's worried about the economic fallout from it. | ||
| That's what I've been thinking because I think Stick said that as well today. | ||
| I think that's the only thing I can think of. | ||
| I've racked my brain about this, but you know, I could be wrong. | ||
| Everyone could be wrong. | ||
| All right. | ||
| God Zomman says, no way. | ||
| the fact of it sticking around means that it's worth it because the nothing stories go away fast. | ||
| Americans are so used to fast stories, fast-paced, they can't retain the whole picture. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| You know, like I remember I was watching a bunch of Gen Z guys sitting outside in Virginia going like this on their phones like zombies. | ||
| If you can get a generation, and I mean like the American people, to focus on one story for two or three weeks, wow, it's kind of creepy. | ||
| A powerful story. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| God's Omen says, keep up the good work, Tim. | ||
| Been listening to you for many years while I'm building a house and appreciate that you have just been the same where all these Stephen Colberts change so quickly. | ||
| They certainly do. | ||
| Lansen says, Trump recently posted a pic of Lindsey Graham gloating about how great he is while trashing Massey for weeks. | ||
| Trump isn't our guy anymore. | ||
| We didn't turn our backs on him. | ||
| He turned his back on MAGA. | ||
| No, you're a panicking. | ||
| You're a panicking. | ||
| This has been his playbook for 10 years. | ||
| He rewards loyalty. | ||
| Trump just fired 26,000 IRS agents. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| It's hard for me to be mad at the man, okay? | ||
| Now, I want the Epstein stuff released. | ||
| I don't think he's implicated in it, so I'm not going to... | ||
| He's not implicating anything just yet, okay? | ||
| And no, if it turns out he was working with Epstein, I'm going to be like, nah. | ||
| But here's a challenge. | ||
| Honest question. | ||
| In Trump's four years, he's got a couple years left. | ||
| Let me ask you guys something. | ||
| Let's say documents are published, and it turns out Trump was working with Epstein, facilitating it financially. | ||
| Would you still support Trump? | ||
| No. | ||
| No, I mean, he'd be in jail. | ||
| You mean knowingly facilitating Epstein? | ||
| He's a pedophile, basically. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| That's not going to happen. | ||
| He's a payoff. | ||
| Agreed. | ||
| But no one's going to arrest him if he was president and stuff came out. | ||
| The issue then is it's like your options are corrupt Democrats burn the country to the ground or Epstein Trump is preventing that. | ||
| And it just seems like wash it all out. | ||
| I'm done. | ||
| See you later. | ||
| That goes back to what I was saying earlier. | ||
| I'll be in a van down by the river, just give up. | ||
| No, I feel about it. | ||
| Focus on your life, the people in your life, a world you can make better around you. | ||
| Yes, politicians are constantly trying to ruin the world for you, but you can't worry about that 24-7. | ||
| I would just go live in a van down by the river. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| Buy a little plot of land by a river in an area that won't flood, so slightly elevated off the river. | ||
| Never down by the creek. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| And then just get, you know, a trailer and stick it in the ground and bring my sleeping bag in here and sing in here. | ||
| Buy an island, maybe. | ||
| Virgin Islands. | ||
| Maybe have like an Egyptian hut on it. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Just spitballing, obviously. | ||
| Yeah, you know? | ||
| Glamping. | ||
| Glamping. | ||
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What? | |
| I was just glamping down there. | ||
| I didn't do anything. | ||
| All right. | ||
| What do we go? | ||
| What do we got? | ||
| Godzoman says, I think Hillary Clinton went to Trump's wedding. | ||
| She did. | ||
| I believe she did. | ||
| Can you believe that? | ||
| I would be shocked to find if these documents prove that Trump and Hillary were friends. | ||
| That's damning. | ||
| Very damaging to Trump's reputation. | ||
| That's way worse than that. | ||
| It's like the video of him, whatever correspondence dinner it was where he roasts Hillary and she laughs along with him. | ||
| She specifically said. | ||
| She's a Smith dinner. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| She specifically said, she's like, yeah, I went. | ||
| Trump's a fun guy. | ||
| See, that's the buddy comedy I want to see, man. | ||
| I want to see a movie about Trump and Hillary. | ||
| You're just so cool. | ||
| Like, he's so fun to be around. | ||
| Like, dude. | ||
| Remember, people only started hating Donald Trump when he got into politics. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Like, before then, everybody loved him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Actually, I like the idea that Hillary yells at Bill, like, why can't you be more like Trump? | ||
| Well, come on, babe. | ||
| Sorry, Hill. | ||
| Sorry, hell don't. | ||
| We'll go to the island. | ||
| I'll make it up. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| It's been working. | ||
| I would imagine that Bill Clinton probably has charisma similar to Donald Trump because I think most presidents, to become the president, you have to have a lot of charisma. | ||
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You're asking a lot of people to give you money. | |
| Arkansas Riz. | ||
| It's mildly more lecherous, though. | ||
| Yeah, it was just kind of like, you know, a little weird. | ||
| No, in the 90s it wasn't. | ||
| No, it's lecherous now. | ||
| It's like him. | ||
| It's like with the sax. | ||
| That'd be so tough. | ||
| I remember as a kid, I was like, he's kind of cool, right? | ||
| He's on MTV playing. | ||
| Whose funeral was he at where he was like staring at Ariana Grande and everybody's like, why is he doing that? | ||
| I have a dog. | ||
| Because he's Bill Clinton. | ||
| I don't remember who's. | ||
| He's like, you must not know him. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Aretha Franklin. | ||
| Aretha. | ||
| Thank you, Aretha Franklin. | ||
|
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That tan girl's like she's Mexican or something. | |
| Not anymore. | ||
| I don't know what she is. | ||
| Italian. | ||
| I just know I want her. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
|
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All right. | |
| We got Raymond G. Stanley Jr. | ||
| He says the Russia hoax was more than just Trump. | ||
| It was the globalist destroyers of the West that wanted to stop the U.S. from having strong relations with a prominently white nation with traditional values. | ||
| Gee, I wonder who he's talking about. | ||
|
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All right. | |
| Wyatt Kaldenberg says, how much do you think anti-Zionism plays in making Epstein a never-ending crackpot theory? | ||
| If there were a couple of Christian pedos that have two Jewish pedos with ties to Israel, would so many people care about it and make up crap? | ||
| I think this is the funny thing about the Israel derangement syndrome, is that if you attach, it's like, if there was a bank and I was like, that's the target guy. | ||
| Like, here's my heist movie, okay? | ||
| Heist movie short film. | ||
| And the team is like, here's the team. | ||
| We got a hacker. | ||
| We got the driver. | ||
| We got the strongman. | ||
| We're going to go into this bank and we're going to rob it. | ||
| What's the plan, man? | ||
| We're going to accuse the bank of working with Israel. | ||
| And then the anti-Israel people are going to storm in and go nuts and smash everything. | ||
| And we're going to walk out with the money. | ||
| I think the banks are the only organization where it wouldn't really fire people up. | ||
| But the previous chatter. | ||
| I'd be like, what? | ||
| The previous chatter literally was talking about exactly what I say. | ||
| There's two groups of people that really care. | ||
| There's the people that believe that Epstein was involved with Israel and with the Mossad and with CIA. | ||
| And if Epstein is exposed and all of the information comes out, the American people will say, oh, We have to stop being allies with Israel because Israel's controlling our government. | ||
| And then there are the people that think that Epstein had a slew of underage kids. | ||
| And those are the two people that are really passionate about it. | ||
| Figured it out. | ||
| Trump literally just needs to come out and say the Epstein files were doctored by Israel. | ||
| We can't release them because it helps them. | ||
| That's better. | ||
| I was like, these documents, they were fabricated by Mossad to make Israel look good, so I won't do it. | ||
| And then literally the story will flip overnight. | ||
| Jeffrey Epstein, he was Palestinian. | ||
|
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At some point, two weeks it's been in the news. | |
| He's like, I'm going to have to bomb Iran again if we don't get this thing out of it. | ||
| It's his fault it's in the news. | ||
| It's Trump's fault. | ||
| Man. | ||
| Yeah, he's like, what are you guys whining about? | ||
| That's literally what he's saying. | ||
| He's like, dude. | ||
| It's a hoax. | ||
| Shut up. | ||
| All right. | ||
| From north of nowhere. | ||
| Is that what it says? | ||
| North to nowhere. | ||
|
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Sorry. | |
| Van Life Timcast fan here. | ||
| I die a little inside each time Tim mentions his beefed up camper van that doesn't get used. | ||
| Shout out my Van Life channel. | ||
| We are trying to grow from North to Nowhere. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| Is that still back at the... | ||
| Clamping. | ||
| It's got enough energy to effectively. | ||
| So with the solar panels, it will run indefinitely. | ||
| So I could turn on, I could hook my computer up to it, plug it in, and it will never run out of power because it generates more from solar than it expends. | ||
| However, I think you can only do like 10 hours of max AC. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| AC is insanely draining. | ||
| Insanely draining. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We need to get that over here. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Do something with it. | ||
| You got to do a skit where you go over there and somebody's just been sleeping in it the whole time. | ||
| I wouldn't be surprised. | ||
| Ian just sleeps in it for fun. | ||
| I mean, to be honest, it's been sitting literally untouched for, I think, two years. | ||
|
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Wow. | |
| Probably won't even turn out at this point. | ||
| Battery's probably cooked. | ||
| And this happens all the time. | ||
| It's like, we really need to just move it out and use it and do something with it. | ||
| I feel like I was walking by the other. | ||
| I was like, oh, there's a second trailer on the side of the building. | ||
|
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Yep. | |
| There's spawn. | ||
| We have two fifth wheel trailers. | ||
| Again, I was like, I was like, is somebody's like sleeping in there? | ||
| Why is that thing over there? | ||
| So the first trailer is basically the clubhouse now. | ||
| So when we're doing this show and people they want to skate or whatever and they want to hang out, they can do it outside. | ||
| So they're not being noisy. | ||
| And the second trailer is it's set up to be another studio space. | ||
| Nobody wants to use it. | ||
| So we'll see what happens in the future. | ||
| But we have them. | ||
| They're both for mobile shows. | ||
| And we used them both. | ||
| And now we have them. | ||
| And it's like, I don't know, maybe we saw one. | ||
| The first one was like that first trip to Austin in 2021, right? | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Alex Jones is. | ||
| I still remember that. | ||
| Biggest show we ever did. | ||
| And YouTube deleted it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I still have like photos. | ||
| Joe Rogan and Alex Jones. | ||
| And then YouTube made up some fake reason to delete it. | ||
| It was wild. | ||
| I still have photos of like when that was all getting set up. | ||
| Yeah, crazy. | ||
| And that was when Kyle Rittenhouse was found out guilty. | ||
|
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Yep. | |
| Crazy. | ||
| We were hanging out with Alex Jones at his studio. | ||
| Almost four years ago now. | ||
| That's crazy, dude. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| A long five years. | ||
| Man. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Well, here we go. | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| The Adaptive Outdoorsman says, Tim, thank you for your tips on business. | ||
| Thanks to your tips on business pitfalls. | ||
| The Adaptive Outdoorsman podcast is now an LLC. | ||
| Here's to more growth. | ||
| Well, shut up, brother. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| Best of luck. | ||
| All right. | ||
| What does this say? | ||
| I can't read that. | ||
| Kyle says, baby number three is on the way. | ||
| On our way to the hospital, welcome baby Scarlet Rose. | ||
| Cheers, Timcast. | ||
| More babies. | ||
| More babies. | ||
| You know, Luke Rudkowski, I see him in the chat. | ||
| Smack talking. | ||
| Where are your babies? | ||
| Huh? | ||
| Luke? | ||
| What's going on? | ||
| I don't see no baby Luke's. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
|
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All right. | |
| Where are we at? | ||
| Zachary Rossfeld says, I think Trump is involved in a way that isn't pedo. | ||
| That's what I think is why he's against the release, maybe regular prostitution or money laundering. | ||
| I think, well, they're saying it's unverified hearsay. | ||
| So when Trump says it's a Democrat hoax, it sounds like Trump's belief is that Democrats intentionally put in a poison pill into the files, making him look bad in some way. | ||
| They can't be proven, but really bad. | ||
| And so if they get released, they basically said, if we go down, you're going down with us. | ||
| And Trump was like, oh, and now he's trying to wash it under the rug. | ||
| I don't care, man. | ||
| Reset the whole system. | ||
| Just release it. | ||
| And then let the chips fall where they lie. | ||
| Is that the saying? | ||
| I mean, if it was just like regular prostitute, like, would anybody care? | ||
| Remember when there was like the, he was getting peed on by Russian prostitutes or something like that? | ||
| He literally paid Stormy Daniels to have sex with him. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Like that's not going to, nobody's, that's not even going to rate with most people. | ||
| Luke says going to Smack Talk more now. | ||
| Well, you know, we always tell Luke to come on the show and then he just never does. | ||
| He's just, who knows what he's doing down there in Florida. | ||
| He's probably. | ||
| He says it's too cold up here. | ||
| It was 90 degrees. | ||
| He's not saying that he's right, actually. | ||
| That's what he says. | ||
| Is it really? | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Why? | ||
| It keeps. | ||
| It's too hot. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Wow. | ||
| I think maybe we should just permanently remove it so you don't got to think about it anymore. | ||
| Just no more. | ||
| Desk fan for me, man. | ||
| Yeah, Massey was saying the reason they have the August recess is because historically August was so hot in the swamp. | ||
| They'd literally be like, just don't come here because of the malaria. | ||
| Malaria. | ||
| Yeah, people died. | ||
| The summer White – there was always – each president had a different summer White House because you would just – Yep. | ||
| God forbid politicians would have to be uncomfortable. | ||
| Well, nowadays they have to be aware of that. | ||
| That's crazy to think. | ||
| They're wearing like suits in Congress and it's 100 degrees. | ||
|
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Wigs. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't think they actually wore wigs. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| At least in the very early days, yeah. | ||
| They wore wigs? | ||
|
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Yep. | |
| Actual wigs. | ||
| I don't believe that. | ||
| Is that true? | ||
| Did Congress ever wear wigs? | ||
| Well, they wear wigs in South Africa. | ||
| Washington did not wear. | ||
| Only some early members, though, in the late 18th century, short after the nation's founding, wig wearing was it faded very quickly, however. | ||
| The last guy wearing the wig? | ||
| It was a British custom. | ||
| Why did they wear wigs? | ||
| Like I said, they have it in South Africa and like the judges, everyone still wears these crazy little wigs. | ||
| It's like the most ridiculous thing ever. | ||
| It's like imagine being the last congressman rolling up with the wiggle. | ||
| It's fashion. | ||
| Dude, what's your name? | ||
| Go drop it. | ||
| You guys know where it came from. | ||
| That's so 1789. | ||
| They were losing their hair with syphilis. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| It was syphilis. | ||
| Yep, they left for French. | ||
| Louis lost all his hair because of syphilis, and then everyone was like, oh, well, that's en vogue. | ||
| Now I got to get all my, cut all my hair off and then put on this fake, like, you know, powdered up wig. | ||
| And it became a fashion statement because of how everyone had syphilis. | ||
| Syphilis caused patchy hair loss. | ||
| Everybody was crazy. | ||
| They would wear wigs. | ||
|
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Yep, dang. | |
| And they would drink mercury. | ||
|
unidentified
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Yeah. | |
| They're like, this will cure you when they drink it and be like, I'm dying now. | ||
|
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Yep. | |
| You're walking. | ||
| Oh, that's crazy. | ||
| To be fair, though, I imagine that in 100 years, they're going to be like, they used to give people literal poison to cure their disease. | ||
| Can you believe it? | ||
| They used to, yeah, it's like chemo. | ||
| No, but like today, yeah, chemo antibiotics. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I was actually surprised to read about this because there are a lot of medicines that are fundamental, like are rather rudimentary that, you know, there's like herbs and stuff and there's chemicals in them. | ||
| And we're like, oh, actually, aspirin is tree bark and you can extract it. | ||
| But modern antibiotics are extremely arduous and difficult to make. | ||
| So I was looking up like, how many people do you need to make modern antibiotics, not penicillin? | ||
| And it's like laboratory conditions that will not exist in the wild. | ||
| Antibiotics are gone if civilization collapses. | ||
| And the proper dosage is insane, too. | ||
| So if you take too much, you die. | ||
| It's like, it's literal poison. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| Not an easy thing for humans to have accomplished. | ||
| I do think it's kind of crazy that they never knew to pour their moonshine on their bullet wounds, though. | ||
| They were like, you got shot, your leg is gone. | ||
| And it's like, you're holding moonshine. | ||
| They probably knew, but it's just, I like moonshine. | ||
| Why waste? | ||
| You don't want to waste the moonshine. | ||
| You just drink the pain away. | ||
| The leg has to go. | ||
| Yeah, the leg. | ||
| You've seen these prices? | ||
| They're pissed on the economy. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| They did. | ||
| They did know this actually. | ||
| It was done. | ||
| They didn't know germ theory, but they knew that moonshine and alcohol themselves actually could prevent loss and everything. | ||
| And they would. | ||
| They would pour alcohol sometimes. | ||
| But they wouldn't use... | ||
| They weren't sure if the alcohol was actually standard or uniform. | ||
| They also didn't know that germs existed. | ||
| They also put leeches on people. | ||
| They would do vinegar. | ||
|
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Wow. | |
| Vinegar cures everything. | ||
| Yeah, they would. | ||
| Wow, that's amazing. | ||
| Alcohol was used internally as a sedative. | ||
| They still do that to this day. | ||
| Oh, look at this. | ||
| We're not talking about Tuesday nights. | ||
| Thanks to figures like Joseph Lister, doctors began to regularly use alcohol, carbolic acid, and sterilizing techniques. | ||
| Did he invent Listerine? | ||
| Listerine? | ||
| Is that really where it comes from? | ||
| I believe so. | ||
|
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Oh, yeah. | |
| Are you just saying that because it sounds right? | ||
| No, no, I think he was one of those guys that sold snake oil back in the day, and they would put their name on it as Lister Ean, like whatever. | ||
| So, yeah. | ||
| Fauci Ian. | ||
| Listerine was developed by Dr. Lawrence in 1879, named after Joseph Lister. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Something like that. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Would you look at that? | ||
| For treating dandruff, gonorrhea, and sore throats. | ||
| Treating three in one. | ||
| That's all about. | ||
| A little three in one. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| They were prevalent problems back then. | ||
| Yeah, find me one medicine that can do all three. | ||
| They're all one-trick ponies. | ||
| Well, I mean, you say that, but like, when you think of all the things that penicillin actually treats, it's like, well, you know. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| You know? | ||
| You see all those old ads where it actually says that it'll treat all three, and it's like, weird. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Garrett Wards. | ||
| Garrett D. Wards. | ||
| The Trump administration is pulling back on the files because it's a continuation of the conspiracy of ObamaGate. | ||
| Comey's daughter was the prosecutor of the case, and they falsified evidence again. | ||
| That is an interesting point that it was Comey's daughter that was in charge of that case. | ||
| And so they may have intentionally loaded up false evidence as a time bomb because the Epstein stuff is true. | ||
| They knew they'd get exposed. | ||
| It's actually rather, rather, I wouldn't even call it that clever. | ||
| Like probabilistic thing. | ||
| We talk about how they destroyed evidence. | ||
| Why wouldn't they fabricate any? | ||
| Certainly. | ||
| They would destroy the evidence and then create fake evidence as a time bomb. | ||
| Maybe that's the challenge. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| Yep, I don't know. | ||
| Or Trump's in it. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| Release him, I guess. | ||
| Well, the key word is hoax. | ||
| He always gives us hints. | ||
|
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Ah, rigged hoax. | |
| You really have to think about that. | ||
| All right, what do we got here? | ||
| Our sergeant says, what is this? | ||
| M. Effer looks like a French version of Caitlin Jenner, you know, somehow slightly more mannish looking, meanwhile, still expecting the world to go along because we are uncultured swine. | ||
|
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Dang. | |
| Dang. | ||
| Look, Bridget McCrone does look like a guy. | ||
| I mean, that's it. | ||
| Bridget McCrone looks like a guy with the wig on. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| I'm not saying she is a guy. | ||
| But, you know. | ||
| What am I supposed to do about it? | ||
|
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Maybe. | |
| Godzoman says, thanks for your team. | ||
| It takes a lot of work you do. | ||
| Appreciate it. | ||
| Shout out to all the Timcast crew, all of our members. | ||
| Guys, join our Discord server at Timcast.com. | ||
| It is not easy to do this every single day. | ||
| And now with the culture war this Saturday, guys, buy tickets to the culture war. | ||
| We still – it looks like we're going to have a – it – So it looks like we might have like 80 people on Saturday. | ||
| With some walk-ins, it might go a little bit more than that. | ||
| The only problem is we had already sold around the same amount. | ||
| So I don't even know how many, like what's the Venn diagram of people with their tickets canceled and don't know versus people who bought and people who re-bought. | ||
| So there's a possibility that we show up. | ||
| And it's not sold out yet. | ||
| So that, you know, we're not going to go over capacity, but they screwed everything up. | ||
| So I just say this. | ||
| Don't let them win with their tactics and trying to get us canceled. | ||
| We may have got the venue back and they agreed to let us do the show, but they screwed up all of our ticketing. | ||
| So guys, DCcomedyLoft.com, go buy tickets. | ||
| Come to DC. | ||
| If you're in the area, if you're in PA, if you're in North Carolina or wherever, New York, take the train down, come to the show, come hang out. | ||
| Because the disruption is disconcerting. | ||
| The show's going to happen, and it looks like we're going to have a decently packed house as it is. | ||
| But my concern is that, you know, they screwed up to the point where people don't know if they're going to be coming or not or what's going on. | ||
| So all I can really say is get your tickets, come down. | ||
| What happened with the tickets? | ||
| Luke Rakowski says, in racist Asian voice, she a looka like a man. | ||
| Where was my invite to this event? | ||
| Bro, you don't need any of it. | ||
| You can literally just text me. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| You say, I'm going to come. | ||
| Okay, we'll put you on stage. | ||
| We have a rotating open seat for any, we're going to bring audience members up. | ||
| Do you guys want to debate Gavin McGinnis or just, you know, sit next to him and ask him a question? | ||
| Well, audience members are going to be pulled up. | ||
| Start of the show. | ||
| We're going to have everyone put their names in a hat and we're going to draw names to invite people to come debate and have their positions heard. | ||
| Names in a beanie. | ||
| Sure. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Is that what it is? | ||
| I think that's what I heard somebody say. | ||
| That's silly. | ||
| But they're probably going to do that. | ||
| I wouldn't be surprised. | ||
| That's weird. | ||
| Luke, you can literally just come. | ||
| We're doing three. | ||
| We have three weeks in a row of big events. | ||
| The Michael Malice Angry Cops one is I'm pretty sure going to sell out. | ||
| Considering. | ||
| So what happened was they canceled the tickets and then immediately all the preferred seats sold out. | ||
| And I'm like, okay, that's a problem because I think a lot of people had their tickets canceled and didn't know the demand was so high that as soon as they restarted the event, people rushed in and bought tickets again. | ||
| So that one might get nuts. | ||
| But Michael Mallis and Angry Cops is going to be the best show ever. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| It's going to be good. | ||
| And then Kat Tiff is joining us on August 9th. | ||
| That's cool. | ||
| Yeah, the subject is, is feminism destroying the West? | ||
| So it's basically going to be like four against one. | ||
| Yeah, Kyla Turner, the liberal, should be defending feminism. | ||
| She's all right. | ||
| She was good. | ||
| I'm not a fan. | ||
| She was relaxed. | ||
| I'm not a fan. | ||
| She wasn't like a screeching, irrational, you know, purple-haired, crazy person. | ||
| I'm not a fan. | ||
| You're not a fan. | ||
| You tell her, like, you're acting like your mother, and she gets really, really angry. | ||
| She usually works with one of them. | ||
| She was sweeping for Destiny when the sex pest charges came out. | ||
| Sweeping? | ||
| Trying to brush them under the rug. | ||
|
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Ah. | |
| And trying to cover for him. | ||
| Well, then we will bring that up at the show and say, this is proof that, you know, feminism isn't such a great thing. | ||
| Well, I think part of the reason that, well, the reason that she was is because she's doing a podcast with Destiny or was doing a podcast. | ||
| And I think that she's not a U.S. citizen. | ||
| So her actual green card was related to working in the U.S. So she had to make sure that she could stay. | ||
| And this is just hearsay. | ||
| This is not actually me saying for sure I know, but I think that part of the reason why she was doing it was because of the fact that she was working with Destiny and it was disingenuous. | ||
| But anyways. | ||
| Miles Tyson says, thank you for all you do. | ||
| Our beloved dog, Athena, was diagnosed with cancer today. | ||
| We are humbly accepting donations at GiveSendGo at Help Athena fight, keep up the Lord's work. | ||
| Sorry to hear it, man. | ||
| Best of luck. | ||
| I hope everything works out. | ||
| What does this say? | ||
| The I don't know what that says. | ||
|
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The race Fraser? | |
| It's all bred in circuses. | ||
| While we continue to be herded into a technocratic, heavily surveilled, feudalistic society. | ||
| You will live in the pod and you will eat the bugs. | ||
|
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Okay? | |
| Bugs are cheap. | ||
| Kieran the meatman says, Tim, the one-hour hot dog song isn't for kids. | ||
| It is for frat hazing. | ||
| They tie you up and hang you upside down while playing this song. | ||
| Now that makes sense. | ||
| Now that just totally makes sense. | ||
| That's what all the dislikes are. | ||
| They're the guys that got hazed. | ||
|
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Oh, yeah. | |
| I got to get thumbs down. | ||
| I think this content should be illegal. | ||
| I'm not joking. | ||
| I think the one-hour hot dog song should be illegal. | ||
| What amount of minutes would you be cool with? | ||
| The song playing one time. | ||
|
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The problem is... | |
| It's not the only one. | ||
| There's thousands upon thousands of videos just like this. | ||
| Of one hour long. | ||
| Longer than that, three hour long. | ||
| And what they do is they put the time stamp, on the thumbnail, it'll say one hour plus, like exclamation point, so that moms will turn the table on, put it in front of their baby, and then leave their baby to be mesmerized and emptyized by psychobabble garbage. | ||
| And that's why Jen Alpha can't read. | ||
| Or it's me, too. | ||
| It's like, dude, this is true. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| He's dancing again. | ||
| Frying your brain. | ||
| See, this guy's making jokes, but he only watched at the end of a show. | ||
| He didn't watch it for hours upon hours. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| I mean, I'd probably get in there just to see if anything changes at any point during. | ||
| It'd be funny if, like, wait, wait, see the spike right here? | ||
| Like, what happened? | ||
| Yeah, why is this the most replayed portion? | ||
| This is the best. | ||
| This is the best part. | ||
|
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Get up, stretch out, sub on the floor. | |
| Hot dog, hot dog, hot diggity dog. | ||
| So captivating. | ||
| So this is, I found this because I was trying to figure out why there are so many AI generated hot dog videos, like Spider-Man eating hot dogs and things like this. | ||
| It's because of this. | ||
| Yeah, that makes sense. | ||
| Disney did the hot dog song and they put it up. | ||
| How old is this video? | ||
| This is from eight years ago. | ||
| And so it gets so much play, and parents search hot dog song that people started making anything they could about hot dogs because what happened is after this ends, YouTube will auto-recommend to a baby Spider-Man, you know, having like a bunch of hot dogs jammed down his throat. | ||
| That's wrong. | ||
| Every time this song ends, the kids should be redirected to man versus food and like a hot dog eating challenge. | ||
| That would like train them up right. | ||
|
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That'd be nice. | |
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Thank you. | |
| Thank you. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Daily Wire's So the Daily Wire's Michael Knowles has been debanked from Strike, Stripe over a legally binding order. | ||
| And I don't think anyone has any idea what that means. | ||
| They just don't like Michael Knowles? | ||
| I mean, what's not to like? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He's very friendly. | ||
| The least controversial. | ||
| He has very nice skin. | ||
| He has nice hair. | ||
| He sells nice things. | ||
| He looks like this. | ||
| He has that very clear voice. | ||
| Looked 30 since he was 15. | ||
| He says. | ||
| He does. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| This is a pretty weird story. | ||
| He's got this big, long thread that ultimately ended with Stripes saying that it's a, By way of a follow-up, we can confirm the restrictions placed on your account were not taken unilaterally by Stripe, but were the result of a legally binding order that was issued to us. | ||
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Dude. | |
| To us. | ||
| How does that fucking happen? | ||
| So X? | ||
| Did he like quit the Daily Wire? | ||
| Right? | ||
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He's trying to I don't know. | |
| Well, I mean, apparently it seems like it's personal, as in his own account, not the Daily Wire's account. | ||
| He does run his own X account, if I understand correctly. | ||
| Yeah, but I imagine all the revenue is going to the Daily Wire. | ||
| His X account? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| I mean, remember the whole fiasco with Brett Cooper's TikTok? | ||
| I feel like, I mean, I know that maybe there's meaningful difference between X and TikTok because of the level of work that goes into video creation as opposed to just typing something on X. That does actually make sense. | ||
| I feel like X would be likely to be your own. | ||
| Though I'm sure there's a channel, like a Michael Knowles channel on X that's different from his personal account. | ||
| I don't think that's the same thing as their TikTok account. | ||
| How does it work with the cigars? | ||
| Is that DailyWire? | ||
| Well, can you send your contract over? | ||
| It's none of our business. | ||
| None of our business, but we're going to make it our business. | ||
| Just being nosy. | ||
| I mean, like, look, man, I know everyone knows, not everyone knows, but if you don't know, I used to smoke cigarettes. | ||
| I used to smoke Marlboroughs, and I would kill. | ||
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What? | |
| Oh, God. | ||
| I would kill for Marlboroughs. | ||
| And because of that lingering addiction to nicotine, the Mayflower cigars are a very nice treat every once in a while. | ||
| So that's about all I got to say about, you know, Michael Knowles. | ||
| He's a nice guy, and he's got nice cigars. | ||
| Yeah, we just glazed. | ||
| And nice hair. | ||
| Nice hair, yeah. | ||
| Nice hair. | ||
| But yeah, it doesn't make any sense as to why Stripe wouldn't... | ||
| And I mean, I don't know. | ||
| What did they... | ||
| But a legally binding order is very weird. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's a very weird phrasing. | ||
| Legally binding order? | ||
| Like a criminal like I can only imagine what legal order could stop a company from it's got to be like a legal restriction. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Macaron's going after him, too. | ||
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Yeah, right? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, it could be something like a court. | ||
| Like I'm looking at, I just put in legally binding order and see what comes up. | ||
| And I mean, it could be a court order. | ||
| It could be from a contract. | ||
| But it doesn't really give any more, give any insight as to what it could be. | ||
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Has the Daily Wire said anything? | |
| Creepy. | ||
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The Daily Wire's like, Knowles. | |
| I mean, he links to michaelknowls.com and not to the Daily Wire. | ||
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His jubilee. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Did Michael Knowles leave the Daily Wire? | ||
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No, no. | |
| He's on the front page. | ||
| It's just, you know, the only thing that makes sense to me is that the Daily Wire said, hey, that's our money. | ||
| And he didn't know. | ||
| I mean, he would have to not know because he was complaining about it. | ||
| He's like, what? | ||
| Open. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| You know what's more interesting than this? | ||
| Bridget McCrone being a man. | ||
| Yeah, honestly. | ||
| Can we get to the bottom of that? | ||
| You mean Bridget McCrone being Iron Maiden's mascot? | ||
| Is that what she is? | ||
| Oh, that's what Eddie looks. | ||
| That's what she looks like. | ||
| That's what I'm talking about with Eddie. | ||
| So does that, like, for the case, if there's like, if there's proof needed, does that mean that he slash she just has to send in like a wild pet? | ||
| Oh, yeah, she does look like Eddie. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| She really does. | ||
| Is that how it works? | ||
| I said, like, to prove that she's not a man, does she have to, like, send in proof? | ||
| See, this is why it's defamatory. | ||
| Actually, that's kind of insulting to Eddie, bro. | ||
| He's a killer, though. | ||
| Yeah, but to say, like, you're basically saying he looks like Bridget McCrone. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Might hurt his feelings. | ||
| He seems sensitive. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's an all right guy, you know? | ||
| He is. | ||
| He's a space traveler, too. | ||
| He's been everywhere. | ||
| He was in ancient Egypt. | ||
| He was crazy for a little while. | ||
| He went to space. | ||
| He was a tree for a little while. | ||
| In the early 90s, he was a tree. | ||
| I heard that Iron Maidens didn't exist. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| Yeah, like the medieval torture devices was just fiction. | ||
| And everyone saw pictures of, did they really saw people in half. | ||
| And it's like, no. | ||
| I think they would draw and quarter people, though. | ||
| Like, they strap a horse to each limb. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that was real. | ||
| That's pretty cool. | ||
| Smack them and see where they go. | ||
| I mean, not your limbs off. | ||
| I'm not endorsing it. | ||
| I disavow, obviously. | ||
| You don't? | ||
| Yeah, that'd be cool. | ||
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This is the uncensored list of names here. | |
| This guy gets it. | ||
| This guy gets it. | ||
| It'd be funny if they use miniature ponies to do it. | ||
| Then it's kind of cute. | ||
| Oh, you're being dismembered. | ||
| So this is back to the Michael Knowles stuff. | ||
| My girlfriend is a very big fan of the Michael Knowles show, and she watches all the time. | ||
| And apparently, it has something to do with hate speech and hating on groups of people, which likely means his religious criticism of gay people. | ||
| Stripe didn't. | ||
| Stripe saying a legally binding order. | ||
| That is like Stripe has been famously on the side of against cancel culture. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I've actually been able to DM with the CEO over issues, and they've been quick to correct any problems. | ||
| I think we had a problem once, and then they apologized. | ||
| They were like, that is not correct. | ||
| That was an error. | ||
| Don't worry, we got you. | ||
| And I think the CEO had even met with several high-profile conservative personalities to assure them, like, you will not get shut down for your speech. | ||
| We won't do that. | ||
| They're very specific in their answer. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Like, it's like a court order told them, shut him down. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Maybe what is the Daily Wire then? | ||
| Because the Daily Wire would have the authority to be like, hey, this is our money. | ||
| But even still, I can't imagine it being all that much. | ||
| Why wouldn't he just be like, okay, guys, here's the account? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I mean, how many people follow Michael Lewis? | ||
| I know he's a big, he's a big one. | ||
| 1.3 million, I think. | ||
| 1.3 million. | ||
| Yeah, on X. I just feel like it couldn't be enough money for it to be like a big deal then, you know? | ||
| This is the point that I was making. | ||
| How do the Macron's expect to prove actual malice in a culture that insists transgenderism is normal and existed forever? | ||
| Actual malice doesn't mean malice. | ||
| It means you knew what you were saying was not true. | ||
| But either way, how does one prove that accusing someone of getting a high-quality secret sex chain surgery constituted a reckless disregard of the truth in a culture that insists that transgenderism is real simple, normal, and has been forever? | ||
| Being accused of being a tranny can't be defamatory. | ||
| I'd like them to argue that it is. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Anyway, shall we go to callers? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Oh, man, this is going to be crazy. | ||
| I hear the callers tonight are going to be raucous. |
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