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Trump Just ACCUSED Obama Of TREASON, Calls For CRIMINAL Charges | Timcast IRL
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tim pool
Rest in peace, Ozzy Osborne.
This is the biggest story probably in the world right now that Ozzy Osborne has passed.
So shout out and rest in peace.
There's not much more to add on that.
He was a musician, a legend, and everybody's talking about it.
And so that's the biggest story.
But there is other news, at least in our political world.
Donald Trump has publicly accused Barack Obama of treason while sitting in the Oval Office and called for criminal charges.
It's an insane thing to say.
I suppose it's more insane that we're kind of desensitized to this kind of rhetoric, considering they already had Trump arrested several times on false charges.
So this is just par for the course of where we're at in this country, but kind of worrying.
Now, Barack Obama has responded, basically saying it's absurd.
We'll get into all that.
And then we've got a bunch of these.
We've got a couple of really crazy stories.
One, the House is shutting down for a month.
And reportedly, it's because they don't want to release the Epstein file.
So we'll get into that.
And then we've got a really crazy story.
Pam Bondi has already fired the replacement for Alina Hobbes.
This is a convoluted story, but basically, Alina Hobb is supposed to be the U.S. attorney in New Jersey.
Judges just removed her.
Pam Bondi said nope and fired a replacement right away because we are in some kind of unstable political environment in this country where nothing makes sense.
And the majority, the overwhelming majority of Donald Trump's appointees have not yet even been confirmed or given hearings, which is insane.
I think most people don't realize what they've been doing to Trump in his first term and now in his second term.
And it's continuing.
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more, we got Brianna Morello.
breanna morello
Yes.
Well, thank you guys for having me.
It's an honor to be back.
A lot going on in the news cycle, as you know.
And as an independent journalist, it's been very, very interesting to follow.
tim pool
Indeed.
Well, it's going to be fun.
Thanks for hanging out.
We got a lot to talk about.
Libby's here.
libby emmons
Hi, everybody.
I'm Libby Emmons with the Postmillennial and Human Events.
Glad to be here tonight.
phil labonte
Hello, everybody.
My name is Phil Levante.
I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains, and I want to take a second to send a very, very heartfelt rest in peace to Ozzy Osbourne.
Without Ozzy Osbourne and without OzFest and the influence that he's had on not just All That Remains, but on the whole metal world, without him, I wouldn't have this amazing career that I've had.
So rest in peace, Ozzy.
I'm an anti-communist, I'm a counter-revolutionary, and let's get into it.
tim pool
And a fan of Ozzy Osborne.
phil labonte
Absolutely.
tim pool
Here's a story from ABC News.
Trump accuses Obama of treason in the Oval Office.
Quote, they tried to rig the election, Trump claimed without presenting evidence.
You know, I just love that line because Tulsi Gabber dropped 100-plus documents outlining their evidence.
And Trump is just opining on that fact.
So why is ABC News lying to you?
That's interesting, isn't it?
They say, days after President Donald Trump posted an AI-generated fake video showing former President Obama's arrest on his social media platform, the current president pushed conspiracy theories about Obama in the Oval Office on Tuesday, accusing him of treason without providing evidence regarding the 2016 presidential election.
They tried to rig the election and they got caught, and there should have been severe consequences for that.
Well, we got the clip.
Let's play the tape.
donald j trump
I didn't know that.
No, I didn't know Prince Sheridan.
He's a very talented person.
He's very smart.
I didn't know that they were going to do it.
I don't really follow that too much.
It's sort of a witch hunt, just a continuation of the witch hunt.
The witch hunt that you should be talking about is they caught President Obama absolutely cold, Tulsi Gabbard.
What they did to this country in 2016, starting in 2016, but going up all the way going up to 2020 in the election.
They tried to rig the election, and they got caught.
And there should be very severe consequences for that.
You know, when we caught Hillary Clinton, I said, you know what?
Let's not go too far here.
It's the ex-wife of a president, and I thought it was sort of terrible.
And I let her off the hook, and I'm very happy I did.
But it's time to start after what they did to me.
And whether it's right or wrong, it's time to go after people.
Obama's been caught directly.
So people say, oh, you know, a group.
It's not a group.
It's Obama.
His orders are on the paper.
The papers are signed.
The papers came right out of their office.
They sent everything to be highly classified.
Well, the highly classified has been released.
And what they did in 2016 and in 2020 is very criminal.
It's criminal at the highest level.
So that's really the things you should be talking about.
I know nothing about the other, but I think it's appropriate that they do go.
tim pool
May I ask you about that, Mr. Speaker?
So I don't know what the earlier context in that statement was, but he then brings up Obama and accused him of treason.
He continued.
Now, Obama has responded, denying Trump's bizarre allegations that he was RussiaGate ringleader in a rare statement.
As soon as Obama decided to speak out, I was like, he's guilty.
There's no reason to comment on someone just insulting you on the internet or in the press.
They say former President Obama denied Trump's bizarre allegations that he was a RussiaGate ringleader.
phil labonte
It's incredible that they say things like bizarre.
Like the DNI has actual evidence.
Maybe it's not enough to convince people or whatever, but sorry for the outburst.
But legitimately, it's ridiculous that the way that the media is portraying this, oh, there's no evidence and blah, blah, blah, just totally disregarding all of the stuff that the DNI has produced.
libby emmons
This is the How to Deal with Trump playbook.
They've been playing it since 2016 and they're doing it now.
tim pool
It's fascinating because as AB, you guys just heard how Trump phrased it.
He said, Tulsi put out these documents.
You should really look into that because what he did.
And then the way ABC News phrases it is they omit Tulsi Gabbard from it.
This is how the media lies to you.
Technically, they're telling the truth, but they've cut out so much information.
You don't know the actual contest.
This is how they play up the Very Fine People hoax and all the other hoaxes.
So I ask all of you listening right now and those of you in the room, for what action, how do I say this?
What is the minimum action required for you to be satisfied based on these circumstances?
breanna morello
I want a mugshot at least.
That's like the bare minimum.
tim pool
You're saying arrest?
breanna morello
Yes, there needs to be arrest because listen, we've been playing these games for quite some time now.
And unfortunately, we haven't seen much movement from the DOJ.
I mean, we've known all of this.
Everything has come out from Gabbert's team, which I'm so thankful that it has.
We've all known about these things for quite some time now.
And so there should have been a blueprint by the DOJ on if they had a special prosecutor going on or how they were going to go about making these arrests or who they're going to go for first, because obviously Barack Obama would be the last arrest that they'd make.
They'd want some individuals who are surrounding him to turn on him quick.
And so I hope they have a plan in place.
I don't hear of any grand juries going on.
Obviously, in D.C., you'd hear about it.
But outside of D.C., I haven't heard of any grand juries going on.
So I'm a little concerned that we're kind of playing catch up here.
But also, I can't wait for Barack Obama to try to sit there and play the presidential immunity argument here and say that he can't be prosecuted because he can be.
And he's obviously been a part of the law fair before.
So it'll be interesting to hear.
phil labonte
So I understand that there are going to be obviously people on X that are going to try to make that argument.
Do you think that Barack Obama would actually try to make that argument?
I do think that he's a little more sophisticated than the average partisan poster on X. Do you think Obama would?
breanna morello
I think if the walls start closing in, if the people around him start to turn, then yes, I think he'd have to make the argument of presidential immunity.
But from what I'm understanding is there's probably more evidence in regards to when he left the White House and how he kept everything kind of going still.
So presidential immunity wouldn't apply for that.
tim pool
I think it's all fake, to be honest.
breanna morello
Yeah.
What do you think it's fake?
tim pool
I just, I'm done believing any of this, the posting of memes and the making of claims.
I'm half kidding.
I know people are going to take it very, very seriously.
What I'm saying is I'm beginning to doubt that there is actual, there is any intention in going after these people.
And the reason I bring that up is although we are seeing some movement from the Trump DOJ?
It's what, 1% of the actual power they have and could move.
And you take a look at how the Biden DOJ went after Trump's lawyers, went after Trump himself and lied and made things up.
You mean to tell me that Trump's sitting there being like, I guess we'll figure out in time?
They didn't wait.
They literally just said, go arrest all his lawyers and make the charges up.
libby emmons
But look at how Trump behaved in his first term, right?
He came into office.
He had said, lock her up about Hillary Clinton.
And he was much more of a gentleman about it.
He was like, I don't think that's appropriate to just start going after the wives of former presidents.
So we're not going to do that.
And when we did see the Biden administration come in and start not just prosecuting Trump, former Trump officials, but those people couldn't get jobs.
It was very difficult for them to just lead a normal life at that point.
And now we're in another administration and we're seeing this administration go after the previous administration and perhaps the one before.
And there's probably good reasons for all of a bunch of these things.
But I can't help looking at a place like Venezuela where one administration goes after the previous administration and the entire government is just hung up in muck about all of this stuff.
And I find that really discouraging that our American governmental system could come to a process where all it is is you elect one group of people and they jail the previous people and then the next people jail the previous people.
I mean, that's literally that's banana republic.
tim pool
Unless you win.
libby emmons
Well, but you never win.
But you never win because there's always like four years later and somebody else is going to win.
tim pool
No, you're just talking about the intervals by which the conflict continues.
So you can take a look at Spain and was it Franco won for what, 70 plus years?
libby emmons
Sure, but I'm not looking for a leader for 70 years for this conflict.
tim pool
I'm not saying that.
I'm saying if Donald Trump were to weed out the corruption and solve the issue of the phony Democrat-controlled congressional seats, maybe you would not have to worry about corrupt individuals selling out your nation and taking power from you.
libby emmons
Well, you're exactly right.
And that's what we should be looking at, right?
We should be looking at redistricting.
We should be looking at redistricting in Texas and New York.
You had Yvette Clark was revealed on a Zoom call today saying that she wants more migrants in Brooklyn in District 9 of New York because she wants that for her redistricting.
If you look at, you know, the population of her district, she has more people in her district than the population of some states in this country.
And she wants more people to bolster, you know, the Democratic Party.
You see that in California.
They have 52 seats.
How many of those seats are just not legitimate because they are full of illegal immigrants who should not be counted toward House representation at all?
Never mind Texas.
We have that going on.
And you have Jasmine Crockett being like redistricting is Texas is racist and all that kind of stuff.
That's what we should be looking at.
tim pool
Could you imagine going back 10 years and telling people that the FBI would raid the home of, I'm sorry, like literally, go back to 2015 and say 10 years from now, it will have, or not 10 years, but you know, eight years from now, the FBI will raid the home of former President Donald Trump with shoot to kill orders if met with commensurate force.
And that was really about if you went back 10 years and told someone that.
libby emmons
No, I think it would sound unfortunate.
tim pool
They'd have you 5150.
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
They'd say, okay, buddy, you know, let me bring you to nobody would believe.
It's scary to me.
Can we go over real quick so people don't forget?
Because, you know, people really do forget.
They falsely accused Trump of 34 felonies.
The government proved no underlying crime, which is required for these charges and told the jury, just decide for yourself if you think there was some other crime.
In what reality can the U.S. legal system just say, we're going to lock you up and let the jury decide if you committed some crime.
We're not going to actually present you with the crime.
You don't get to confront your accusers.
You have no right to a trial in this regard.
They accused him of civil fraud, even though the banks said he'd never defrauded them.
It was all in the up and up, and they made money and would like to work with him again.
They arrested his lawyers in multiple states.
They arrested him in multiple states.
They raided his home with authorization to kill.
They were armed and told if they were met with resistance that threatened their safety, their lives, or caused great bodily harm, they could use lethal force against the president and the patrons of Mar-a-Lago, which is a large club.
Right now, considering all that happened, what are we actually going to say?
It's been six months.
I know everyone says, be patient, be patient.
It does look like moves are being made, but the most I'm hearing from anyone in this is that maybe there will be a conspiracy against rights charge.
I'm like, these people, going back to 2016, tried to overthrow the government.
And what I mean by that is the government is of for and by the people.
And when the American voters vote for Donald Trump, and then a cabal of unelected individuals use governmental power to undermine the will of the people, they're a subversive force betraying this nation.
And Trump has an obligation to do something about it with expedience.
At this point, I'm kind of feeling like nothing's ever going to happen.
You're silly if you think it will.
Maybe I'll be proven wrong because I know it's early and I'm just getting a little frustrated, but you know.
breanna morello
Well, Tim, if you're wrong, I think he loses MAGA, just completely loses MAGA, because that was the entire motive for so many people to go out and vote.
They wanted to see justice.
I mean, so many Americans, thousands of Americans were persecuted by our federal government and everyone's sitting here waiting to see what's going to happen next because the lawsuits, whatever, that's just our money getting poured into these lawsuits at this point.
That really doesn't have any value, but going after the people who tried to ruin the lives of so many Americans, plus go after our president.
If you don't sit there and have arrests, have convictions, I think MAGA just completely loses all hope.
tim pool
I don't disagree.
But let's jump to this next story.
This is what we're just talking about from Fox News.
Immigrants needed for redistricting purposes.
House Democrat admits in viral clip.
Quiet part out loud.
phil labonte
Be real.
tim pool
Let's roll it.
yvette clarke
Quickly, what role do you believe members of the Haitian American diaspora here can and should play in assisting the effort to stabilize and rebuild Haiti?
I'm from Brooklyn, New York.
We have a diaspora that can absorb a significant number of these migrants.
And when I hear colleagues talk about the doors of the inn being closed, no room in the inn, I'm saying, I need more people in my district, but just for redistricting purposes.
And those members could clearly fit here.
tim pool
So that's Democrats admitting, or at least a Democrat admitting exactly what they've been doing with flooding the country with illegal immigrants.
They're doing it so they can steal power from the will of the American voter.
And they make the argument that, but immigrants are Americans.
Illegal immigrants aren't.
And they bring in illegal immigrants so they get counted in the census.
And Democrats get extra congressional seats and extra votes in the Electoral College, thus stealing power in this nation and subverting the will of the people.
I would argue that this is a use of coercive force and conspiracy against the United States.
Call it whatever you want.
And these people should be criminally charged and removed from office.
libby emmons
Beto O'Rourke was coming out with the exact same thing.
He was on TV on the weekend, State of the Union saying that the, what was he saying?
We have to be absolutely ruthless about getting back in power.
He was saying, talking about redistricting.
Hakeem Jeffries was saying nothing is off the table.
They want to do redistricting.
And yeah, they want to do redistricting in all of these places that have already had a massive influx of illegal immigrants.
And that's why the thing that Trump said, and I think Marjorie Taylor Greene was saying about how the census should count Americans, count citizens, is so important.
And that's what the U.S. House should be based on.
phil labonte
I mean, that's the whole reason that I'm so hardline on immigration, on getting people that are here illegally out of here.
And if it takes punishing Americans that hire them and punishing Americans that give them like room and board or let them rent, then I'm fine with it because it's an attempt to steal power from the American people.
libby emmons
That's exactly right.
phil labonte
And so whatever we have to do to make sure that illegal aliens leave or they get deported, I'm okay with.
breanna morello
Why don't we do this as Republicans?
And I mean, we, I'm an independent, but like, why don't we push back on this issue and start redistricting just the same way Democrats are doing it?
Listen, if they want redistricting, then let's fight them on this issue.
Let's do what they're doing, exactly what they're doing, and let's just drain them financially in court, drag them through the courts, you know, make people like Mark Elias have to spend all his time on fighting off Republicans who are looking to redistrict because they do it all the time to us and we just never get to that same level that they are at.
tim pool
I was watching, I saw some news clip earlier.
Mahmoud Khalil is suing the government for like $20 million.
And I was like, Donald Trump was falsely arrested and charged.
And the Trump administration can't even deport a non-citizen when the State Department has the unilateral, the Secretary of State has unilateral authority to do so.
That's how weak the Trump administration is.
So I'm just, this is why I'm feeling like they're not going to get anything done because they can't even deport a non-citizen, just some student.
They couldn't do it.
They even brought back a Brego Garcia.
breanna morello
That made no sense.
tim pool
You expect me to believe that Trump's going to go after these Democrats and stop them from destroying this country when he won't even deport a criminal gang member?
It's ludicrous.
breanna morello
Well, El Travado wasn't going to even back, by the way.
libby emmons
Oh, you do have Greg Abbott in Texas on Monday started a special legislative session to deal with redistricting.
And there's a, you know, the idea is that they could pick up five seats in Texas from that.
tim pool
At this point, I just want an ill-tempered, cognitively impaired, morbidly obese man to be the president.
And of course, that's what Democrats were saying of Trump, but Trump's not that.
I'm saying, give me that right now.
Just an ill-tempered impaired man, because at least when they're going to be like, if you try and arrest us and unravel what we've done, we'll come after you.
What?
We're threatening you.
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Bang!
tim pool
Just, I'm sick of the...
Just sloth being like.
libby emmons
There's cranes lifting him in and out of the White House.
tim pool
Some kind of Frankenstein president that doesn't have the cognitive capacity to negotiate any of these things and just goes around arresting people who broke the law.
Like, give me an oafish, one-dimensional top cop.
There you go.
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
Instead, the Trump administration, I want to stress this again.
I watch on TV and they're like, not only have they released this guy, they were planning to deport, he's suing them for $20 million.
Like, wow, Trump is one of the weakest presidents I've ever seen in my life.
libby emmons
I don't know why they didn't just deport him.
I feel like they could have.
They could have sent him back to Syria where he's got a passport.
I think his passport is Syrian.
tim pool
The things that Trump has gotten done have been great.
It is tremendous.
USAID and the gutting of these things, it's all amazing.
But seriously?
Like, Kilmar Obrego-Garcia couldn't deport that guy?
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
Why is Trump acting like these random, you know, it really is, I'll put it this way.
The district judges ran rough shut over the Trump administration until Trump asked the Supreme Court to help him.
Why not just be like, no, you sue me about it?
Like when the court said Trump, you can't do this.
Why didn't Trump go, okay, I'm going to keep doing it and you go to the Supreme Court and see what they say?
Instead, Trump went, oh, rats, I guess we can't do it.
Let me go ask the Supreme Court.
I'm sick of this.
Go on the offensive.
It's just, it's boring watching nothing happen.
You know what is happening?
Policy stuff.
It's good.
I'm happy about it.
What's not happening?
Accountability stuff.
breanna morello
And the policy stuff isn't even long-term.
It's short-term things.
It's a lot of executive orders.
And unfortunately, Speaker Mike Johnson has failed massively at doing what his job is.
And again, they keep losing their majority in the House.
And I just have to say it's probably intentional, especially when they're walking away now and going on August recess.
But again, like you said, I think the American people have lost confidence in a lot of this.
And I hope we could fix it quick.
But again, the Garcia thing really had me boggled.
libby emmons
It makes you misled.
phil labonte
Back killing everybody here, huh?
breanna morello
Who would have known?
I know.
Do you have something more offlifted?
phil labonte
Well, I mean, look, the fact of the matter is that I understand why people are apprehensive about whether or not things are going to get done because the Republicans have a history of not following through and not delivering.
But there is the fact that both Comey and Brennan are under investigation now.
So even if that's a baby step, that's a baby step that honestly, you know, I don't think that any other Republican would have done.
breanna morello
And just keep in mind, though, the last DOJ, Merrick Garland, had about 400 arrests of Jay Sixers at this time in their administration.
So they're way more aggressive.
I think that's the angle that Trump supporters are looking at.
phil labonte
I would love to see a far more aggressive DOJ.
Absolutely.
But the fact of the matter is, I don't know that with this referral from the DNI and with the fact that Comey and Brennan have both have investigations going on, I don't think that it's time for black pills.
Maybe you can say, hey, we need more, we need faster, we need a more aggressive, but I don't think that it's a situation where we should say, oh, they're definitely not doing anything.
Well, they're clearly doing stuff.
The DNI is doing stuff.
Trump said that there's more stuff coming just tonight.
So.
breanna morello
Yeah, I think also the credibility issue, too.
I think so many people want to, if you remember back in 2016, the president's first term, there was all indictments are coming, indictments are coming, and they never came.
And those are all the talking heads on Fox News promising people that.
So I think the rest of us on the independent side don't want to promise the American people that indictments are coming because the reality is we don't see anything.
I mean, I'm asking around.
I'm not all.
Yeah, I know exactly what you mean, but I'm like, you don't want me to blackpill completely because I hate that so much.
And I want to be optimistic because I started so optimistic, but I also don't want Brandon.
phil labonte
I'm not even saying we should be optimistic, but the idea that, oh, they're not doing anything, nothing's happening.
Well, I mean, look, it's likely that there are things going on.
Whether or not they'll be successful, whether or not there'll be arrests, I can't say.
And I think that it's probably likely that there won't be, just because of the ability for lawyers to run interference and stuff like that.
But to say that they're not doing anything, I don't think that that's actually accurate.
So at the very least, if we're going to actually be honest about the situation, I mean, there are things going on because they've got an investigation into two of the most likely culprits and they have the criminal referral from the DNI.
So that's just my take.
breanna morello
Yeah.
Yeah.
tim pool
A criminal referral for Obama?
phil labonte
I don't, well, no, I'm talking about the D, well, they don't have a criminal referral.
They had, they, they, they have the, the information sent over to the DOJ, and it's, we'll see what they actually do.
breanna morello
Yeah.
phil labonte
But yeah, it's, it's, like I said, it's, I understand everyone that's going to be skeptical, and I understand that people are going to say, oh, blah, blah, blah.
But if we're going to be accurate, we can't say that.
tim pool
I'd be reckless and crazy.
I think that I would approach the DOJ and my priorities with reckless abandon, as it were.
It's taking a very, very long time.
The messaging is convoluted and makes no sense.
The Epstein-file debacle was pathetic.
We're winning on policy issues that are going to be reversed if Trump loses and the Democrats steal power again, which this lady is talking about doing.
And they're not doing anything about it.
So maybe they are.
Maybe they are.
I'm just frustrated because it's seeming like they're just on the issue of accountability, they are not winning.
breanna morello
Yeah, I mean, and just to kind of add to that, President Trump, I believe, is at 150 executive orders, well over 100.
And when I spoke with the Speaker's office about how many of those executive orders they have ready to hit the floor at the time, this was just maybe four or five weeks ago.
It was just a little over a dozen.
So I think that's pretty disgusting in itself that we are sitting here and allowing the House to not do its job.
I don't understand as we headed to midterms too, because the polls aren't really looking too favorable for Republicans, how people like the Speaker can sit there and just allow all of this to happen because the people are going to want something to be motivated about to go out and vote for Republicans.
I just don't think that they have that right now.
libby emmons
Well, you also, the Democrats don't have very good polling right now either.
And the House has only passed two laws, right?
The Lake and Riley Act and the big beautiful bill.
breanna morello
They're pretty slow.
libby emmons
Yeah.
They haven't done anything.
breanna morello
Yeah, Ross Mustn actually just did a poll.
Let me go look that one up real quick.
libby emmons
the Democrats aren't doing well either, but I do think that the Republicans are destroying themselves because they keep No, they don't.
Well, they're spending a lot of money.
phil labonte
The fundraising, I just saw a tweet about the fundraising that the Republicans have done compared to the Democrats.
The Democrats, I don't remember exactly what it was, but the Democrats have something like $8 million and the Republicans have like twice as much.
tim pool
The Republicans have 85 and Democrats have 15.
libby emmons
Yeah, the big reason for that, though, is that the Democrats have no leadership.
They need to figure out who's in charge of their party.
phil labonte
They need to figure out what their party stands for.
libby emmons
Well, their party stands for Zoron Monboni.
They should just make him be the head of the party.
tim pool
They don't, though.
I was talking to this reporter from Axios today.
He's working on a story about all this stuff.
And I was pointing out that, you know, there's a real opportunity for Democrats to launch their reformation right now and target the people angry with Trump over Epstein.
But they can't because they are race and gender obsessed.
And they're terrified of that base.
I don't know if you guys saw that clip of Rahm Emmanuel.
He was asked by Megan Kelly, can a man become a woman?
And he had pause.
He was like, no.
And then she said, wow, thank you for saying that.
And he says, well, you know, I don't, you know, she says a lot of people won't.
He goes, they don't want to enter witness protection.
libby emmons
Right.
tim pool
Rahm Emmanuel basically said the far left is so dangerous and extreme, they have to pretend that men can transform into women, otherwise they will die.
That's the state of the Democratic Party.
There's no way the Democrats are going to be able to reform.
And so my view is there's going to be a lot of angry Trump voters who are going to keep voting Republican because there's no alternative.
libby emmons
Yeah, and you did have Media Matters coming out saying Rah Emanuel rejects trans identities and appearance with Megan Kelly.
And what's funny is the URL is Rob Emanuel denies existence trans.
tim pool
Which there's another big story.
The Olympics has officially banned trans women.
But we'll get to that in a second.
We'll jump to this story right now from CNN Johnson shuts the door on House votes before September on releasing Epstein files.
Now, I found this hard to believe that the actual reason they shut down the House for a month was over Epstein.
But literally every outlet is reporting this.
And CNN's even saying Speaker Mike Johnson on Monday said he does not plan to allow votes on any measure related to the Epstein case in the House's final week in Washington before a weeks long recess, weeks long.
It's till September, what, 2nd or something?
libby emmons
Yeah.
So, I mean, this is a calendar that they've had in place since December of last year.
And it has the Senate going through August 1st, but it has the House out July 24th.
And that's been in place since December 9th, 2024.
So it's not like they just decided.
What they did do is they did not decide to actually stick around and get their jobs done and Pull some overtime like the rest of us do all the time.
tim pool
Or, I mean, they have a few more days to get through some agenda items.
And the argument is they're abandoning even some immigration bills they want to get passed.
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
And of course, the mainstream, the corporate press is arguing that it's because they don't want to have to vote on the Epstein files because Massey and Rocana plan to force the issue past leadership with, I forgot what it's called, but 218 votes in the House will get them to the floor.
libby emmons
Yeah, but they're out on Thursday and they've been planning to be out on Thursday for like seven months.
tim pool
You know what, man?
Congress is the best job ever.
You barely work.
You pretend to work.
It just, that's the way to do it, especially with the internet these days.
You just complain online and then you don't actually do anything.
And then you go on a month-long vacation in summer.
breanna morello
And you spend other people's money.
unidentified
Yeah.
libby emmons
You definitely do that.
Did you hear George Santos on Tucker Carlson?
I listened to a bunch of that interview because George Santos is surprisingly engaging.
He basically just said what you said.
He said, Congress, they don't do anything.
It's basically like exaggerated high school.
It's just all politics and people banging in the storage closet.
breanna morello
That's high school.
libby emmons
Basically.
breanna morello
Yeah.
Yeah.
And it's interesting, right?
Because you would assume that Santos would be up for a pardon.
phil labonte
Santos is a great example of why of Republicans not doing this stuff.
libby emmons
Yeah, they shouldn't have voted him out.
That's the stupidest, idiotic thing ever.
breanna morello
Johnson didn't support it, though.
That's the good thing about Speaker Johnson is he was very much against all of that, but it was his own rhino New Yorkers who went for it.
libby emmons
But he wasn't against it enough.
He went around telling people to vote their conscience.
And that's total trash, telling people to vote their conscience.
What he should have done is said, listen, we've got this guy.
He's a Republican.
You might not like everything he's done with his own campaign finance, but look at half the Democrats who do the exact same stupid thing.
Just keep him in the House.
Let's win.
Like, why can't they just try winning?
breanna morello
Yeah, and I hear that Speaker Johnson's the one shutting down the potential argument for a pardon for Santos, thinking that it's going to affect Republicans in the midterms.
And that's the argument he's trying to do.
libby emmons
I think, yeah, so he's been his same trash.
breanna morello
Yeah.
phil labonte
They are.
tim pool
They're so concerned about the opinion of the New York Times.
Less so about their own constituents.
breanna morello
Yeah.
tim pool
You know what?
I do think the media trends are going to lead to Democrat control once again, though.
Just with like media is shifting towards shorts, which is going to eliminate the long-form content.
And this allows things like the very fine people hoax to become the dominant message.
And there's no real way to counter it.
libby emmons
For like the don't say gay bill.
tim pool
Right.
So the issue is when they lie, to debunk the lie, you need to break down what the bill does to prove it.
And that takes a long time.
So when they claimed Donald Trump called Nazis very fine people, you'd have to show the full context and explain what Trump was talking about to break that lie.
With the heavy shift towards shorts, Instagram stories, reels, and TikTok, a lot of people aren't consuming fact-based information.
And they're going to just be glued to their phones, swiping, having no idea what's really going on in this country.
And maybe all they're actually trying to do in the Uni Party is just weather the storm.
In their mind, big tech will solve this problem.
You will have one generation between millennials and Gen X, maybe, one small element that is going to be subversive and attuned to the facts.
You get past this, you'll get a bunch of zombies again who will do whatever you say.
phil labonte
I mean, yeah, I got nothing.
breanna morello
Yeah, we'll see.
We'll see.
I think it's going to be very interesting.
I hope it's not shorts, the future of this country, because I watched some of those quick videos and it's not very informative.
But again, that's what everyone's loving these days.
And the algorithm promotes it when it's shorter than two minutes.
tim pool
It's not that they're loving it.
It's that the machine is telling people what to love.
breanna morello
Yeah.
tim pool
So I mean, the trick is for almost all of these platforms, if YouTube decides that you're going to be the big show, you will be.
And there was the example is this Van Life woman.
This is years ago.
She made two videos and got 3 million subscribers.
libby emmons
Oh, wow.
breanna morello
That's impressive.
tim pool
Because apparently what had happened is that she found the cheat code keywords in one of her videos.
I think the thumbnail was like her in a towel having just showered with her pet snake and living van life, which hit key algorithm points right in the slot, bullseye.
So YouTube showed that video to literally everyone.
Not literally, but to 50 million people.
She gained millions of subs and it was like, what just happened?
And YouTube said, oops, the algorithm made you famous.
That's how the machine works.
They'll just decide.
phil labonte
Well, now it's an algorithm.
But to be honest with you, there's a very similar phenomenon when it comes to the music industry.
If you're a darling in the music industry, then you will get on all of the big tours.
You will get on all of the big shows.
You will get put into heavy rotation at Sirius and on all the radio stations.
That's the way that it's been in the music industry forever.
To a certain degree, you have to be writing music that people want to hear.
But it's marginal.
You can take, there's a lot of bands out there that are very, very well-known and very big that are not writing good music.
And it shows in the actual spins they get on apps like Spotify and stuff like that.
So the idea that it's unique to YouTube, it's really not.
It's something that's kind of always been when it comes to any kind of entertainment, I imagine.
tim pool
I wonder about this.
So I pulled up her channel.
It was 1.3.
She got 1.3 million subscribers in a week with two videos, and she just vanished.
And there's a lot of people who do this.
Three years ago, she stopped making content.
She was getting a million on every video.
And it looks like she was only making, she wasn't making that many videos, a few per year, I guess.
And so it's just, it is very strange how the media apparatus works right now and where it's going.
Honestly, I have no idea.
But this format is not going to persist.
Absolutely not.
All of the big podcasts.
Yeah, this like the long form two-hour show is dying out.
I mean, Colbert was the old guard version and we're all laughing at him, but young people now are just on their phone looking at 30-second clips.
They're not watching shows like this either.
libby emmons
But they're not even, I mean, yes, they are doing that.
And the problem with those clips too and the way that you scroll, because I'll find myself in like an endless scrolling loop, you know, before I go to bed or something.
And It's like you sit down for a minute and look at your phone, and then you look up and it's a half hour later, and you're like, damn it.
Like, how did I, what did I even look at?
And you have no idea.
breanna morello
Yeah.
libby emmons
You know, you watch some guy like take a suitcase and turn it into a chair.
You know, you watch like a dance video.
Someone told you a better way to do Pilates and it's like, what?
breanna morello
Oh, yeah.
My algorithm on Instagram is pretty, it's pretty awful.
It's toxic.
I joke about it all the time, but it's women in their 30s getting facelifts.
And it's the only thing.
libby emmons
Oh, dear God.
Mine is what I said, people assembling furniture.
breanna morello
I'm like looking up skincare routines and it's like, get a facelift.
No, but it's really bad because even like on certain platforms like YouTube, I just kind of gave up hope on YouTube for my personal content that I was posting because we stop at like 1,500 followers and like that's it, subscribers.
And that's all you get on my content.
I've never been able to master the algorithm on YouTube.
tim pool
I think YouTube intentionally manipulates the algorithm for political reasons.
The van life story, I think, hit the nail on the head with the hammer.
They were sending, they were mass, the reason why I think this woman got so many subscribers is that YouTube behind the scenes said, we want everyone living in vans and not owning homes.
You will live in the pod.
You will eat the bugs.
And this was 2019 when this happened.
This is just before COVID.
People were commenting online that they had never looked at this stuff before and they were getting inundated with van life videos telling them to go live in vans.
breanna morello
Yeah, I remember them when it happened to me.
Absolutely.
And I didn't understand why it was happening, but now that makes sense.
tim pool
Why everyone was getting inundated with this hypnotic suggestion to not have a house and live in a van.
breanna morello
WEF.
It's a very powerful group.
tim pool
And then, you know what happened?
These people bought vans, lived in them, and then abandoned them right away because it was miserable.
And they were like, that was the stupidest idea I've ever had.
I couldn't take a dump anywhere.
phil labonte
It is not awesome to live in a van.
I spent a lot of time living in a van and it is not awesome.
As soon as you can get a bus, you will forego pay to get a bus.
Like when you're in a van, you'll be like, okay, we can take a van and make good money or we can get a bus and be comfortable.
Bus.
Every single time, zero question.
Bus.
tim pool
Yeah, we got the trailer for our mobile shows.
And I'm like, I could totally live in this.
There's a bedroom.
There's a TV.
There's a kitchen.
It's like a little one-bedroom apartment.
That's nice.
But in a van, here's the other problem with all of it is you can't shower, go to the bathroom.
Even in the trailers, like you're actually tracking where all that water is going.
When you shower, you're like, do not use too much.
Not only do we have very little, but we got to drain the tank and find somewhere to drain it.
And you can't go to the bathroom when it's full.
And then, oh, God.
libby emmons
That sounds awful.
phil labonte
Yep.
libby emmons
This is why when I was like moving out here, I was like, has to be town sewer.
phil labonte
Yeah.
unidentified
Yep.
libby emmons
Yep.
tim pool
I mean, septic's fine.
libby emmons
Yeah, I grew up with septic and there were always issues.
There was a leeching field.
There was don't run over there because that's where the septic is.
It was just, no, not doing that.
tim pool
All right, let's jump to this story from ABC News.
U.S. Olympic and Paralympic officials bar trans women from competing in women's categories.
That is massive.
Trans women will no longer be eligible to compete in the U.S. in Olympic, the U.S. in the Olympic or Paralympic Games in women's categories after a recent policy change from the U.S. Olympic and Paralympic Committee.
Now, the question is, what about other nations?
libby emmons
Well, the thing is that other nations will have to comply if they want to compete in the United States.
phil labonte
Good.
libby emmons
I like it.
Interesting.
Yeah.
tim pool
So perhaps 2032, there'll be only guys.
Like if they go to a different country.
libby emmons
If you go to a different country.
tim pool
If they go to like France or something.
libby emmons
Or yeah, because Pakistan will load their team, their women's soccer team, full of fellas.
tim pool
Why not?
libby emmons
That's what they do.
They already do that.
tim pool
Really?
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
Pakistan does this?
libby emmons
Pakistan has, yeah, I'm pretty sure Pakistan has men on the women's.
tim pool
Really?
breanna morello
They would allow that?
libby emmons
Either that or it was a parody and I fell for it.
But I'm pretty sure.
I'm pretty sure that it was Pakistan.
phil labonte
Well, they prefer trans people to homosexuals, correct?
libby emmons
Well, Iran forces transes people.
phil labonte
Yeah, I'm only saying this because it has to do with Islam, if I understand correctly.
What?
unidentified
Yeah, Shia Islam.
They basically say you can.
Yeah.
phil labonte
So Shia, but not Sunni.
tim pool
Not Sunni, from what I understand.
unidentified
Only in Iran.
phil labonte
All right.
Well, I mean, and is Pakistan Shia or Sunni?
tim pool
I don't know.
unidentified
I'm not sure.
I know they're in Iran.
I know if they're in Pakistan.
phil labonte
Okay.
I'll Google that and find out.
libby emmons
Yeah, so the IOCC used to say that males who had a certain measure of testosterone were allowed to compete on women's teams.
But Trump said absolutely not in the United States.
So that's why the U.S. Olympic and Paralympic Commission had to change their rules because otherwise American athletes wouldn't be able to compete in the Olympics.
tim pool
So GPT says there are no publicly known or confirmed trans women competing on any women's soccer teams.
But maybe it's hallucinating.
libby emmons
It's possible.
breanna morello
Well, common sense is back and it's winning.
And I'm excited for that, at least at this point, because previous administration would have never even fought for this.
tim pool
They would have fought against it.
breanna morello
Yeah.
tim pool
They would have fought to make sure the whole team was nothing but dudes.
breanna morello
Isn't it crazy?
And they call themselves the party of women's rights.
It's the complete opposite.
And for some reason, they've been able to brainwash so many people into accepting.
tim pool
Well, it's reverse chess, right?
It's like, what do the Democrats want historically?
You know, if you go back to the Civil War, this is a time when women didn't vote.
They were in the home and they had slaves.
So what are Democrats doing right now?
They're claiming to fight for the welfare of the black community.
Instead, promoting policies that just keep them impoverished and struggling.
They say that they want rights, but then demand to have foreigners with no rights clean their bathroom floors.
And now they're allowing men in women's sports, which is pushing women out, which will return women to their place.
And they want women to be drafted.
libby emmons
Yeah, I think that the interesting thing about trans and how so many lefty women got suckered into that whole thing is because women are, you know, stereotypically more agreeable.
So if a big man in a dress comes in and tells you, I'm a woman now, you're going to, the women are going to be like, oh, okay, we'll do what the big man in a dress says.
And what they will forget is that feminists are supposed to be not agreeable, right?
Like I remember talking to my friends about this who were all, we were all feminists.
And I was like, why are you going along with this?
Like, we're supposed to be the disagreeable ones.
Why are you just saying yes?
Makes no sense.
breanna morello
And there's no argument for it.
There's never any clear argument on their behalf as to why we should be doing this.
libby emmons
Well, they think a lot of women.
yeah, and there's a lot of them, too, that don't believe that men are women, but go along with it anyway because of the aforementioned agreeableness.
phil labonte
Do you really think that that's the situation that women actually don't think it, but they don't feel like they can stand up and say it?
libby emmons
I think that is true in an enormous amount of cases.
I know that my friends who I was working in Feminist Theater Collective with, they all agreed with me that men are not women, but they definitely did not feel like they could say that out loud.
tim pool
Because men would beat them.
libby emmons
Yeah.
Well, that was 2018.
phil labonte
Okay, so that wasn't actually very long ago.
Do you think that...
You don't think, do you think that that do you think that there's a fear of being associated with the right wing with women that you would be in that kind of thing?
libby emmons
I think it really is a lot more simple than that.
I think it's you don't want your friends to yell at you at cocktail parties.
You still want to be invited to all the things.
phil labonte
The point that I'm making is if you are a right-leaning person, then those things don't happen to you generally.
libby emmons
Right.
Have you seen those memes that's like, you guys are a lot of fun.
We're not leftists.
phil labonte
Go on, please.
libby emmons
Well, that's the meme.
It's like people boating.
phil labonte
Okay.
libby emmons
You know, and then someone will be like, you guys seem like a lot of fun.
And the people on the boat will be like, that's because we're not leftists.
phil labonte
Because it's my, I imagine that women would voice their opinion.
And the reason that more women have actually started to voice their opinion now is because they're getting support from more people that are center and right-leaning.
libby emmons
It took J.K. Rowling.
Donald Trump winning.
No, it took J.K. Rowling.
breanna morello
And look what they did to her.
libby emmons
Right.
And she came out.
So she came out in December of whatever year that was and said, you know, like go to bed with whoever will have you, but men aren't women, basically.
But the previous June, she had come out and basically said something similar.
And her PR rep was like, oh, no, no, she's just old and she doesn't know what she's saying.
And she backed off it.
tim pool
My favorite thing was how J.K. Rowling was on board with all of it for a while, like saying, actually, Hermione Granger was black.
And then she was like, I think.
libby emmons
I feel like that holds up in the books.
tim pool
Yeah, because she's like, she's got frizzy hair, right?
That proves it.
And it's like, oh, shut up.
libby emmons
Yeah.
unidentified
Come on.
tim pool
Stop constantly.
And then what did you say?
Like some character, Dumbledore's gay.
And it's like, oh, come on.
And then she made him gay.
And it's just like, we get it, lady.
But then, but then they came for her identity.
And then she had to come out.
Now, with all due respect, I do appreciate she stood up to the, to the woke psycho mob and everything.
But, and, and, you know, to be fair, when would you expect someone to actually become a prize to the threats faced by wokeness?
Certainly when it affects them and they feel it and they see it.
So it is good that she spoke up.
And man, they, what did they do?
They had like a Christmas special and they disinvited her or something?
libby emmons
Yeah, she was not part of the Christmas special on HBO.
tim pool
And even to this day, Rupert Grint, I'm pretty sure it was like Emma Watson.
Rupert Grint and Daniel Radcliffe have like basically insulted her.
libby emmons
Yeah, but Draco Malfoy, whatever that actor's name was.
Tom Felton.
Like whatever.
J.K. Rowling is great.
She gave me a great career and I support her entirely.
Rupert Grint has had no career.
tim pool
That's not true.
libby emmons
Really?
What's he doing?
tim pool
He's been in a bunch of stuff.
unidentified
Has he?
tim pool
Yeah.
Really?
I mean, I like him, you know.
Tom Felton, the great actor, Tom Felton.
libby emmons
I like him, yeah.
tim pool
He was on the CW in, I think, The Flash.
And he is now doing the Broadway.
What is he doing?
He's playing Draco Malfoy again.
libby emmons
Is he in the Harry Potter and the Children's Curse thing or whatever that is?
tim pool
I think so.
The stage show.
He's back to being adult.
He's now adult Malfoy.
And he's returned to, what is that?
I don't know what it's called.
unidentified
I don't know.
libby emmons
Oh, he was in a couple of things.
Rupert Grint.
Yeah, I think he's awful.
tim pool
He plays guitar.
I did not know that.
phil labonte
I don't know anything about Harry Potter.
breanna morello
Yeah, I'm out on this one.
libby emmons
Keanu Reeves is starring in a Broadway show right now with Alex Winter.
phil labonte
Keanu Reeves?
libby emmons
Yeah, they're basically reprising Bill and Ted's, except with.
tim pool
Not the weird woke garbage.
libby emmons
Yeah.
Well, no, they're doing Samuel Beckett's Waiting for Godot.
But they're doing the.
unidentified
Okay.
phil labonte
I'm sorry.
I'm not familiar with Broadway at all.
libby emmons
No, it's not.
It's not a Broadway.
It's like not even a Broadway show.
phil labonte
Oh, okay.
libby emmons
It's like this weird old avant-garde show about two guys waiting for somebody.
And they just wait the whole time.
And then at the end, I'm not giving anything away.
tim pool
See, you know, I got to defend all.
I got to defend old Rupert Grint here.
You know, I was talking to the misses about that song, Drops of Jupiter, the band Train.
And I said, I was like, yeah, it's a huge song.
I was like, oh, wow.
You know, I never knew that it was Train.
And then my wife was like, well, I mean, what did they have?
Like two songs.
So, you know, what do you really know by them?
And I was like, which one?
She was like, I think it was Hey Soul Sister, right?
Is that what it's called?
I'm like, yeah.
And I'm like, I'm pretty sure that's not true.
And I bet they have a ton of hits.
And then we looked it up and they have like 50 top billboard songs.
Like not really 50.
I think they have like 17.
They have Hey Virginia, Calling All Angels, Drive By, Hey Soul Sister.
Like it's their train is massive.
phil labonte
Huge.
tim pool
Huge.
And I was like, I never knew I actually liked this band.
I had no idea that it was the name of the band.
And everybody knows those songs.
So anyway, there's a lot of issues where like you would say, Rupert Grant's not anything, not in anything.
Well, because you don't watch the things that he's in.
But if you pull up his filmography, he's been in it.
libby emmons
Yeah, he's honest.
He's been in a ton of stuff.
tim pool
Yeah, nonstop.
libby emmons
I think part of that is that the...
What was that movie that Guillermo del Toro movie?
tim pool
Oh, he was in that, but he does all the Em Night Shyamalan stuff.
libby emmons
Oh, yeah, I'm never going to.
Yeah.
tim pool
What was the latest one?
Oh, actually, that one wasn't bad.
What was that movie?
libby emmons
Is this Knock at the Cabin?
I'm looking at his IMDb.
tim pool
Yeah, I think that was it.
I wouldn't call it like, you know what, to be honest, it's one of the better Em Night Shyamalan movies.
libby emmons
Is it?
unidentified
Yeah.
libby emmons
Yeah, we haven't really had much of a collective culture in the past 10 or 15 years.
It's hard to know, like, what even the most popular things are because the level of popularity of the most popular things is so degraded from what the level of popularity had been.
tim pool
Do you remember when the Khaleesi stepped out of the burning hut naked and everything on fire?
libby emmons
No.
tim pool
You don't remember that, Phil?
phil labonte
I never watched the Game of Thrones, right?
tim pool
It was crazy how every Sunday when a new episode of Game of Thrones came out, everyone on Twitter was tweeting about the episode.
And then when Daenerys Targaryen, she kills, what's his name, Drago or whatever?
I don't know.
It's been so long.
It's been a decade.
She knocks the fire.
Everyone burns to death, but she can't be burned.
And then she walks out.
Everything's on fire and they're all screaming and dying.
And that's how the episode ended.
The fire emoji was trending.
Everybody was just blasting fire emojis on Twitter.
And it's kind of interesting because far leftists, corporate press, and anti-establishment personalities were tweeting with each other, talking about the show.
And that stuff is unifying, but we don't have that anymore.
libby emmons
No, that was a cool thing about Game of Thrones.
It was so cool, in fact, that I tried to watch Game of Thrones and the violence within the first like 15 minutes was enough to, because I was a new mom at that point.
And there's like, you can't, you just can't really handle violence against children and stuff when you're a new mom.
You can't do it.
tim pool
There's nothing unifying anymore.
There's no issue where some liberal journalist and some MAGA guy are going to tweet at each other and be like, yeah, that was awesome.
Like a rock band or something.
libby emmons
No.
tim pool
It's just completely bifurcated.
libby emmons
When I was a kid, at the next day in school, we'd all be talking about literally the Cosby Show or whatever the shows were.
There was like must-see TV on NBC.
And if you hadn't watched the shows, you were like out of the loop.
You didn't have anything to talk to your friends about at lunch because we all watched the same TV.
We'd talk about that and what we had for dinner.
Very exciting.
phil labonte
It's a whole nine years.
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
I wonder how we emerge from this, right?
Maybe we can't.
If you go back in time, you have like a little village.
Everybody's talking about the same thing.
They go to church.
They talk about the same thing.
They go back home.
Little girls and little boys grow up together believing the exact same things, living the lives exactly that their grandparents live, farming or, you know, rudimentary jobs in a small village.
libby emmons
Except for those black sheep who break off, go to London.
Yeah.
tim pool
Sure, these things happen.
But then you'd end up with like, you know, the boy and the girl would grow up wanting the exact same things around the exact same people, knowing each other their whole lives.
They'd get married and they have kids, and then the process would repeat.
But we largely believed the same things.
And so it's interesting when you hear these stories about like the jihad or whatever, whatever the religion may be, a violent religion comes, you know, puts you on the ground, puts a knife to your throat and says, denounce your religion.
That's basically saying, reject everything you know to be true.
It's telling someone to rapidly alter.
And some people did and some people didn't.
Now, no one believes anything.
So even next door neighbors completely disagree.
How do we function as a society when you're going to walk outside your house, especially with the AI stuff that's coming?
We were messing around with AI music earlier and it's absolutely insane.
Seriously, take any song.
Guys, I'm going to tell you this right now.
Open up Suno, S-U-N-O, take any MP3 you have, upload it, tell it to cover the song, and it'll auto load the lyrics, and then you can change the style.
So you can literally take a Beatles song, you can take Eleanor Rigmy, load it up and say, make a house cover, and it will.
And it's nuts.
We are going to watch different shows walk outside.
Your neighbor's going to be grabbing, not the newspaper, the guest walking their dog, who knows?
And you're going to say, hey, did you catch the latest episode of House?
And they're like, house was canceled years ago.
Oh, yeah, but I AI generate new episodes you've never seen.
What are you going to ask them about?
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
You'll have nothing in common.
You're going to watch your own AI generated football matches.
libby emmons
Well, and it's like you were talking about before with things getting shorter and way less involved and the people scrolling.
These kids are going to have to figure out what they relate about and what they think is important and how they communicate with each other.
Like my son plays video games with his friends online and they like talk on Discord while they're playing or they talk on the phone while they're playing in-game chat or whatever.
And he's managed to like coordinate old friends from different places with new friends from, you know, where we live now and stuff.
But they managed to find common ground in obscure things that no one else knows about anyway.
You know, but like they have their like, what I don't even remember what the name of the new game is that one of his friends was like, we have to play this and now they're all playing this game.
It looks cool.
tim pool
Maybe showing me things.
You know, I'm thinking about it.
The last unifying thing is politics.
And it's not unifying us, but there were always two teams.
We just never really cared all that much about politics because we were more concerned with what was on the tonight show or something like that.
Now, because media is completely decentralized, the only thing that we have unifying us is the two parent factions of politics because people in power do not want to give that up and are holding on to it.
I wonder if what ends up happening is politics gets decentralized in much the same way, and then you have the two party system breaking.
libby emmons
What would that look like, decentralized politics?
tim pool
Just look at how media is today and politics, right?
You'll get 7,000 people voting for one party, 7,000 voting for another party.
And then we look at the list of 48,000 different political parties in the U.S. Hey, that one got a million votes.
They won.
breanna morello
Well, that's what Elon Musk is hoping for.
And I know we were just talking about talking to your neighbors and what do you have common to talk to your neighbors about these days.
I think most people don't even talk to their neighbors anymore.
I walk past people I live with in my building and they don't even say hello.
And I think that's also adding to this political tension between both sides because we're not communicating with people.
We're only communicating online.
And I feel like everyone's just completely lost the, we do have common, a lot in common with other people.
Like, I mean, even though I know we tend to think that Democrats aren't very patriotic, I think that when I do talk to Democrats, They do have a love for our country.
And if we have a communication, if we have a late communication, I think we'd all be able to understand that and be able to talk about that.
tim pool
Phil's looking like, no, I think we have to break down what you mean by a love for this country.
Yeah, so the typical zombified liberal who has no idea what this country is, I wouldn't say loves this country.
breanna morello
Yeah, I think a moderate Democrat, though, still does.
tim pool
I disagree.
phil labonte
Moderate Democrat might.
But I think that most of your actual left-leaning Democrats and further left than Democrats, they don't.
They legitimately hate the country.
breanna morello
They're fuming off of hate.
tim pool
So I'll put it this way.
If you love this country, would you intentionally empower people who are burning the country to the ground?
Like if you have a beautiful house and you're like, I love my house.
Okay.
I love this house.
Would you let people in who are smashing the windows and starting fires?
breanna morello
Well, no, you wouldn't.
But here's the other thing, too.
I think their algorithm is different than our algorithm.
They don't even see this stuff.
You know, I talk to my sisters who don't even agree with me politically on things.
And when I'm pointing out things, I mean, even the whole Joe Biden, Ashley Biden diary, they had no idea about any of this.
It's like they live in a totally separate world.
tim pool
Sure, sure.
They love the country the way I love watching House.
I've seen a handful of episodes.
They're pretty good.
I can't really cite it.
I know the name of one actor, Hugh Laurie.
But, you know, someone asked me, I'd be like, yeah, I love House.
It's a great show.
Okay.
Name one episode.
I don't know any of the titles of the episodes.
I don't know any of the actors except for Hugh Laurie.
I can't even off the top of my head remember a single episode.
Wait, hold on.
Let me try.
I can't do it.
libby emmons
I can remember.
tim pool
The magician one.
The magician one.
I don't remember why or how, but a magician threw a card at the wall and tricked house.
phil labonte
Brianna, what do you, so what would you say to someone that says, look, there was a time where Democrats would say that they love America, right?
But nowadays they don't.
And then say you were to present evidence like, look at Superman, right?
Superman historically had the motto, you know, truth, justice in the American way.
And even up to the most, not the most recent, but the Superman incarnation that was previous to this, right?
The man of steel.
I just watched that the other night.
And at the end, the Superman's character says, he's like, I'm from Kansas, I grew up in Kansas.
It doesn't get much more American than that.
And there are American flags throughout the film, right?
That was in the whole film, the American flag is about the most colorful things that you see in the Man of Steel, right?
But then in the new one, James Gunn has changed the motto to truth, justice, and the human way.
tim pool
He never says that, though.
phil labonte
He doesn't?
tim pool
Not in the movie.
phil labonte
Okay, so that's what James Gunn has said in interviews.
And I don't know for sure.
Tim, you'd know because you've seen it.
But I don't think that they have the same kind of love of the American flag and that same kind of image.
tim pool
I will say, I don't recall in the movie him saying anything like that, but the premise of the movie is literally that he stops two countries from going to war, and one of those countries is aligned with the US government.
The U.S. government is upset about it.
But they don't think he should be charged.
They say, well, he's well-intentioned, and we don't want to go to war publicly with Superman.
So it's, you know.
phil labonte
He wants to go to war with Superman.
But the point being, there was a time where we did, you know, we had these shared ideas and things that we all believed and things that, and it was okay to be patriotic and love America.
And someone, you know, a character like Superman was thought of as the quintessential American.
He grew up in Kansas.
You know, he was, he was, he came to America from outer space.
He grew up in Kansas.
His parents were pro-America.
Like he believed in the American way.
And now, you know, the people that are writing Superman, they're trying to make him more of an international thing.
He's for all of humanity, et cetera, et cetera.
tim pool
He's an immigrant.
phil labonte
Yeah, you know, that kind of, I mean, what's your take on that?
Do you still think that the people that write these kind of these kind of movies and stuff like this, this kind of fiction?
tim pool
Oh, wait, wait.
phil labonte
Do you think that they really love America?
tim pool
I got it.
Have you seen Men in Black?
breanna morello
I'm not a movie person.
tim pool
You haven't seen Men in Black from 1999 or whatever time?
breanna morello
I know.
I know.
I'm sorry.
tim pool
So for those that are listening, that the alien comes, crash lands, and then Vincent D'Anofrio's character walks out.
He's a farmer, and it eats him and then puts his skin over his body and walks into the house and he goes, sugar water.
And the wife's like, what?
He's like, sugar water.
And then she puts sugar in the water and he just slams it.
He's like, Mar.
Well, she loves Edgar, right?
Just like Democrats love America.
So when these disgusting, zombified liches wear this country like a skin suit and the moderate liberals can't tell the difference and say, I love America.
It's like, that is a Marxist zombie, not America.
What they're claiming they love does not actually represent this country.
breanna morello
Yeah, I mean, I don't disagree with that.
I think that I think there's a lot of ignorance on the left, and I don't think that they see it as Marxist.
They don't see it there.
tim pool
But like, right, like the argument is, you know, Sloth loved baby Ruth, but didn't know what it was either.
You know what I mean?
So we can certainly recognize that people who are cognitively impaired and don't pay attention can love something.
But just like, you know, the stupid child who thinks the baby wolf is a puppy until it grows up, these people are sitting there being like, I don't see any of this stuff.
It's like that, remember that Emirates flight that flew straight over Iran during the war?
And the meme was, you know, I turned off social media.
My mental health has never been better.
That's what they are.
So when they're like, Donald Trump claims Obama was engaged in treason, but he had no evidence.
We're sitting here being like, oh my God.
Do you literally get your news from memes?
And they're like, hey, hey, you're a fascist.
Because they, you know, who did we have on who believed the Very Fine People hoax?
breanna morello
Oh, I remember.
unidentified
I don't remember.
tim pool
Karen or whatever her name is?
I don't remember that.
phil labonte
You don't remember what her last name was, but her first name was Heron.
tim pool
And she was like, wait, Trump never said that?
And we were like, holy crap, it's been almost 10 years.
Trump never said that.
They still believe it.
breanna morello
Well, I would more so blame Republican messaging.
I mean, there's very little outreach.
I remember when I graduated high school, for example, they hit you with a registration form to register to vote.
And like, I just figured that since I'm a female, I've got to just go on the line of Democrats.
And it's because Republicans don't have any outreach.
I talk to black Americans all the time, and they don't even realize that they have conservative values.
And yet they still have loyalty to a party that doesn't align with their actual beliefs.
I think it's a messaging issue that they just keep flopping on.
tim pool
Do you believe that your average run-of-the-mill Democrat thinks that black people can't get IDs?
breanna morello
Tough one.
I think it's more of a liberal thing.
I don't know if it's all of them.
libby emmons
Sonny Hodges is a vestige of slavery.
tim pool
I'd be willing to bet that if you went to New York and asked your average person, they're going to be like, Yeah, it's really hard for them.
libby emmons
And they just don't think it through, and they just don't realize how racist that is.
And that black people have driver's licenses and non-driver's IDs and file their taxes and have birth certificates.
tim pool
So when we say they love this country, I don't know what they love, but when you have like, you know, I'm not trying to drag her and be a dick because we enjoyed her coming on the show.
But this woman is a journalist who lives in Brooklyn and she believed near 10 years on that Trump called Nazis fine people.
So she claims that she's not being biased and she's not a liberal.
And it's like, I don't think you understand.
You are, Andrew Breitbrock called this default liberal.
They have no idea what they're talking about.
They don't do the research and they think they're smart.
I'll give a shout out to Jess Margera, who literally tweeted that he was a better journalist than all of the journalists in his pajamas because he uncovered Epstein was funding Pam Bondi when in fact all he actually uncovered was aggregate donation listings on open secrets.
But he's too stupid to realize he's stupid.
libby emmons
Right.
tim pool
So perhaps they love America, but Dunning Krueger impairs their ability to make the country work.
breanna morello
Yeah, I mean, so the reporter you're talking about who lived in Brooklyn, I mean, it's like there's no other, there's no conservative voices out there that they're ever going to interact with.
There's no moderate Republicans that they're going to interact with likely in Brooklyn, New York.
tim pool
As a journalist, there's no reason why they would ever fact-check any of these stories.
breanna morello
Because they're not real journalists.
Yeah, for sure.
And I think that's the problem here.
But I mean, you were just talking about the algorithm, too.
It's just, it's also tainted.
And, you know, if you're not an intelligent person who's searching for facts, you're gone.
tim pool
Let's jump to this story from Rolling Stone.
Stephen Colbert addresses cancellation by telling Trump to go F yourself.
I love this because his ratings are in the gutter.
His demographic is about to go off the cliff.
And he's acting like he's been personally slighted while engaging in conspiracizing.
Is that a word?
libby emmons
It is now.
I like it.
tim pool
It is now.
He basically says in the show, the reason why it's remarkable.
He goes, according to a leaked report, the show was losing $40 to $50 million per year.
$40, that's too much.
I can imagine 24.
Then where would the other 16 go?
And it's like, wait, what?
Is he implying that CBS is okay losing $24 million a year and he's getting canceled now because they got to give $16 million to Trump over the lawsuit?
phil labonte
As if the lawsuit isn't annually, right?
Like every year they're going to have to give him.
That's stupid.
And then also, like, if it's Donald Trump's fault, if he was really doing it to shut him up and stuff, why would they allow him to, or why would he allow him to stay for another year while he can sit there and mauled every night?
tim pool
Well, the reality is Colbert gets, he says we're number one in writings.
Yeah, among 70-year-olds, bro.
So when you actually look at key demo, he loses to Kimmel.
When you look at his YouTube channel, he's the worst performing of all of the hosts.
He's lying.
And this is one of the most pathetic responses to your show being canceled I've ever seen.
Bro, shows get canceled all the time.
Is there any other moment we've seen in history where a guy had a meltdown the way Colbert did over his show being canceled?
libby emmons
It's been ridiculous.
And a bunch of celebrities went to his show, I think, was it last night at the Ed Sullivan Theater in New York to show their support.
And you had Adam Sandler in the audience and Andy Cohen and a whole bunch of people.
tim pool
And no one knew it happened because nobody watches that show.
unidentified
No.
libby emmons
And then you also had Jon Stewart did a, had a, let a gospel choir in the song, you know, go F Yourself, where that was the only lyric.
And he's dancing around.
Meanwhile, did you see what Trump said?
He said, it's really good to see them go, and I hope I played a major part in it.
You know, he called for Jimmy Kimmel and Jimmy Fallon to be next in the cancel cancellation.
tim pool
Happy Gilmore 2 is coming out on Friday.
libby emmons
I will go see that.
tim pool
And it's on Netflix.
libby emmons
Oh, is it?
tim pool
It is a sign of the end of times.
Colbert's audience, they're aging.
They are 70 years old.
So realistically, we can't even argue they'll be around that much longer.
I mean, maybe a lot of these really old folks are sitting in the chair, sunken into the sofa, just that's all they do all night.
I'm not trying to be mean to old people, but they're just chilling.
They're not doing much.
But how much are they participating in the market that advertisers want to be involved in that and that it's going to have an impact?
What I will say is I think the reason this has persisted as long as it has is that there are no young people, which I often bring up, which gives disproportionate weight to older generations, of which, you know, boomers are a very large generation.
libby emmons
But you also have the boomers are refusing to give up anything.
They're refusing to sell their homes.
They're refusing to, you know, give up their late night talk shows.
They're refusing to give up their jobs.
Who raised them?
That was the silent generation.
That was the people that, the people that fought in World War II.
That was the greatest, isn't it?
Yeah.
tim pool
Silent was the greatest.
libby emmons
Yeah, silent was Biden.
Yeah, the next was my grandparents, the greatest generation.
tim pool
Greatest had the boomers.
Now, what did the greatest generation do wrong that it led to – There is a reality.
Gen Z and millennials are lazy.
That does not mean that all of them are lazy.
It means that many of them, that we are seeing trends among this generation.
Boomers, there's a trend among their generation to hoard and not to disperse among their generations the way previous generations did.
Now, it's not entirely their fault.
They are living a lot longer.
Used to be that in the past, you would die.
So your stuff would just move on.
But boomers own a disproportionate amount of wealth relative to every other generation.
And it is shockingly insane.
libby emmons
That's definitely true that that's happening.
Yeah, they do have a lot more.
They still have a couple of homes each, you know, a lot of these people.
tim pool
Corporate equities, everything.
libby emmons
They own 80% of the stock market.
I mean, what happens when they go?
The stock market will just maybe tank.
tim pool
It is going to tank.
So I have predicted this, and I could be wrong because who the FMI?
But when these people, so equities, maybe not maybe, but the housing market, I think, is going to be insane.
And they're going to have to fabricate.
They're going to have to prop it up with communistic like government controls.
libby emmons
Because when a boomer dies, you mean like 28, 2008 or different?
That was propped up too.
tim pool
Different, but here's what I think may happen.
Gen Z has no money, they're accumulating no wealth.
Many of them have decided not to even bother saving because how the hell are you going to buy a $500,000 house when you're getting paid $35,000, $40,000 a year to start?
There's no vision.
You look at that.
There's a clip from Boy Meets World.
No, no, no, was it Boy Meets World?
libby emmons
I don't know.
tim pool
I don't know.
Was it with the Panga?
libby emmons
Yeah, that's Boy Meets World.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
So in one of the later episodes, they're buying a house and it's like $80,000 for a house?
Jeez.
I'm going to need $4,000 down.
libby emmons
$80,000?
tim pool
It was a viral clip.
This is from the late 90s.
libby emmons
Yeah.
Late 90s.
tim pool
So Gen Z's not saving.
Boomers are going to die and they're going to give their houses to their millennial children.
Now, what's going to happen is millennial from Missouri inherits a $500,000 house, but they live in Chicago.
libby emmons
They're going to try and sell it to nobody.
tim pool
And there's no one of their generation who has the wealth to buy.
So what ends up happening is a bunch of millennials may inherit properties, but no one has the liquid cash to actually buy a house.
They may be swapping houses with each other to try and live in areas they want to live, but the market is going to tank.
There's going to be no Gen Z buyers and no Gen Alpha buyers.
There's no Gen Alpha.
Gen Alpha is only 40 million, which is psychotic.
It's half the size of the millennials.
libby emmons
How big is the Gen Z?
tim pool
Gen Z is 72 million.
Millennial is 80 and Alpha is 42.
libby emmons
It's crazy.
tim pool
Absolutely insane.
libby emmons
But I mean, the Gen Z still has time to have some Gen Alpha.
tim pool
Gen, no, I think they capped Gen Alpha's closed now.
libby emmons
Is it?
tim pool
Yeah, I think Gen Alpha ends officially this year.
libby emmons
Oh.
tim pool
And so it's remarkably small.
If you do take the interpretation to extend it by two years, they're looking at 50 million.
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
So, okay, you know, still a little bit more than half.
libby emmons
Not replacement.
tim pool
But if a millennial inherits a house, Gen Z can't buy it.
And the value of the property is based upon the demand.
So here's what happens.
In a true market, you inherit a million dollar house.
Let's be real.
10 years from now, the process are probably going to be a million bucks.
And then you're going to put it on the market.
No one's going to want to buy it because they can't.
And so you're going to go to the agent and you're going to say, look, I don't want to move to Missouri.
I don't want to hire a management company to maintain the property.
Your agent's going to say, if you do not, squatters will take it over or it will fall apart.
A pipe can burst.
And you will find out a week later the house is gone.
You need to do something with it.
And they're going to go, oh, sell it.
We have no offers at a million.
800,000.
A week later, we have zero offers.
Five, zero offers.
Four, okay, BlackRock has come in and said they'll buy it at four.
libby emmons
Yeah, that's a disaster, too.
unidentified
And then you have the foreign buyers, too.
libby emmons
Foreign buyers, China, you know, because of course Katie Hobbs can't be bothered to pass the law which bans Chinese buying land in Arizona.
tim pool
You know what's really crazy over by us?
You know, a lot of people like to say that Tim lives in the middle of nowhere and they built a studio even further out in the middle of nowhere.
You know, Bannon was talking about driving up in the woods to our old studio where we had lived at the time.
Now we have this big property and they've started, developments have been popping up.
Have you seen it?
I think they've built like 50 to 100 houses.
And there's who is going to move into these things?
libby emmons
No, it's not just that.
They're not increasing infrastructure.
So if you try and drive down these roads now, there's traffic jams on these roads.
tim pool
We have traffic jams.
libby emmons
There's like less people in this state than the entirety of Brooklyn.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And the houses are all terrible.
libby emmons
And the houses are terrible.
breanna morello
Yeah, they're cheap.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But that's who are they for?
libby emmons
I have not been because there's not a lot of jobs either.
tim pool
That's my right.
phil labonte
$300,000.
Well, they're $300,000.
Like the area that I live in where my place is, like, I'm the first tenant in this townhouse that I got down here, right?
And there's a bunch of houses in the neighborhood.
It's not only townhouses.
And the houses start at like $350,000, I think.
They say they start in the threes.
I'm not exactly sure, but like $350,000 for, you know, maybe a quarter, an eighth of an acre.
There's like no property.
It's just the house.
The house is probably two bedrooms.
I'm not sure.
I'm gone in to look at any of the stuff.
But like they're popping up all over the place.
They're still building in my area.
So I have no idea who they're going to get to fill these houses at all.
But the places that they're building, they are getting filled very quickly.
So it could be people.
It's probably renters.
libby emmons
Yeah, a lot of renters.
unidentified
I know I rent.
breanna morello
A lot of renters.
Yeah.
phil labonte
Here at least.
breanna morello
And it's kind of crazy, too, all these new houses that they're building.
I mean, whether it's Florida, Texas, nobody has a backyard anymore.
And I remember just growing up, everyone had a backyard and it was like a thing.
And for some reason, I mean, we know what the reason is, everyone's, their houses are very close together.
Now that seems to be the new norm with no backyards.
libby emmons
I have a backyard.
breanna morello
Yeah.
libby emmons
And I have an acre.
phil labonte
I have a little bit of a good life.
I have a little bit of a backyard down here.
libby emmons
I love my little tiny house.
phil labonte
But in New Hampshire, I've got a whole lot of property.
libby emmons
Well, in New Hampshire, you're a landed estate owner.
phil labonte
You're a duke.
50 acres.
libby emmons
Maybe even an earl.
I don't know which one is higher up.
breanna morello
You build townhouses on that land.
phil labonte
No, I'm not building anything.
I'm keeping my privacy is what I'm doing.
tim pool
The interesting thing about all this generational stuff is that when the 08 crash happened, immediate predictions emerged that 18 years from now, we will be economically devastated because people stopped having babies.
And what we're seeing right now is universities are collapsing because there's no enrollment.
So there was one university, it was like in Utah, it was like 200 years old, and it just shut down and went out of business.
libby emmons
Really?
tim pool
Yep.
No young people means no colleges.
That's a good thing, I guess.
libby emmons
I remember when I was trying to get into college and at the time, Gen X was like the lowest birth rate generation because of like Vietnam abortion and contraception.
Right.
So we all like all of us got, I even got into college.
I had no business getting into college.
And I got in and I went to college.
And there was no reason I should get into college.
There just weren't enough people to fill the colleges.
So I got a spot.
unidentified
Wow.
breanna morello
Yeah, it wouldn't be too bad if they shut down.
tim pool
They're going to turn the old college buildings into migrant housing.
That's not a joke.
That's not a joke.
unidentified
I wouldn't be surprised.
libby emmons
Several like liberal arts colleges in Westchester just full of Guatemalan immigrants.
tim pool
Yes.
And you're going to walk in and they're going to have like stewed beef and it's going to be delicious.
libby emmons
Right.
tim pool
Lamb.
libby emmons
Right.
tim pool
You know.
libby emmons
Well, goat, depending on where people are actually.
tim pool
And you're going to have to learn Spanish.
libby emmons
Guinea pigs, those giant guinea pig things.
phil labonte
Capybara.
libby emmons
Yes.
tim pool
They eat capybara.
I don't know eat capybara.
libby emmons
I don't know.
I'm making stuff up.
tim pool
Everybody's friends up.
phil labonte
I'm making stuff up.
tim pool
Everybody's friends.
phil labonte
Everybody loves a capybara.
tim pool
Let's jump to this story from the post-millennial.
Pam Bondi removes first assistant U.S. attorney for NJ after federal judges replace Alina Haba.
This is a crazy story.
libby emmons
This is a crazy story.
tim pool
The simple version is Alina Haba hasn't been given her confirmation hearing for the role of U.S. attorney for New Jersey.
So these judges are like, she got to go.
And so they're trying to effectively replace her with somebody else.
It is pure politics.
And Bondi was like, nope, you fired.
So this is administrative civil war in our faces.
This is nuts.
libby emmons
Yeah, this is crazy.
So these judges, they said, okay, you've had 120 days to be the, you know, U.S. Attorney for New Jersey and now you're out.
And they appointed what, her first assistant or whatever.
And so Pam Bondi removed the first assistant and said, well, now they're fired and you don't have them either.
So now the position is vacant.
breanna morello
That's amazing.
I mean, this is what we wanted, right?
We wanted a DOJ that's going to fight back.
I give a win.
libby emmons
I think the DOJ has to appoint.
breanna morello
Yeah, they do.
They do.
And you know what?
We're always critical.
Well, I'm always critical of Pam Bonnie, so I'll give her this win because we want someone who's going to push back, be aggressive, go out there and tell these rogue judges that this is not their place.
They don't get to make these decisions, that this is the DOJ's decision.
And if they want to sit there and toss someone out, then they'll just keep replacing them with hopefully further right individuals who will continue to push the President Trump's agenda.
phil labonte
I mean, like I said, like I was going to say, like, you know, this is an aggressive move by the DOJ, and it's nice to see.
And hopefully we'll see more of this kind of aggressive pushback on what essentially amounts to Democrats doing everything they can to obstruct, which is what's going on with the Alina Hove stuff.
breanna morello
I would love to see them actually put people in positions like this who are victims of lawfare.
Giuliani, obviously one of them, Jeff Clark, another attorney who is the victim of lawfare.
I don't know if they're licensed in New Jersey to practice, but you know what?
Let's just go all in.
Let's put it in.
libby emmons
What's Mackie doing?
breanna morello
Oh, Mackie.
Yeah, that'd be great.
I mean, I just, I think that they need to push back on this issue, and I'm happy that she's doing so.
And I think all the people who went out there, those little communists who decided to go after anyone who was representing President Trump and tried to instill fear into attorneys and make sure that they never represent President Trump ever again, I think we need to push back on that same type of hatred.
phil labonte
Yeah, I would love to see as much pushback as the DOJ and the administration is comfortable with.
breanna morello
It's a good sign.
phil labonte
It is a good sign.
And again, these are small things, and it's not the kind of aggressive action that I would like to see, but it is better than what you've seen from past Republican administrations.
I mean, Donald Trump in his first administration was fairly milquetoast.
He wasn't as aggressive, nearly as aggressive as he's talked, you know, and I would love to have seen him be more aggressive back then.
But now you see, well, I think that the administration should, I can't say what they do, but they should see the reality that they exist in.
And that if you do not exercise power when you have it, you're only making sure that your political opponents and, in my opinion, enemies of the country will exercise power when they get it.
And they eventually, it's likely that they will get it.
Hopefully not in the next, you know, in the next presidential administration, but they're going to, at some point, there's going to be a Democrat elected.
And hopefully there's been enough changes that the Republicans make to limit the damage that they can possibly do.
But, I mean, there's no promise, obviously.
breanna morello
Yeah.
And you know what I love about this, though?
This is what is so great about the Trump administration.
President Trump listens to everyone.
And public pressure, I think, works here.
I know under a lot of other administrations, that wasn't so the case.
They didn't care what the people had to say.
But President Trump, I think, when we were sitting here and pushing back, and at first he was a little dismissive over the Epstein stuff.
But now all of a sudden, we're seeing movement by the DOJ asking courts to free up and make public record a lot of the things that were going on during the grand jury testimonies and whatnot.
I think a lot of that comes from public pressure.
And so you see Pam Bonni making these moves.
And that comes after MAGA, core speakers, core influencers in the MAGA movement, were coming out and saying, she's got to go.
If you want to earn your keepings here, you got to be a little bit tougher.
And I think that's what's happening.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, I would like to see.
Yeah, I would like to see, you know, I would like, I like the fact that the administration is responsive to what essentially amounts to the MAGA movement and the influencers.
But the influencers are responsive to the people that are actually, you know, the voters, right?
Like Charlie Kirk was kind of like, well, you know, I don't really want to talk about this, but the outcry about the FCC.
libby emmons
He never said he didn't want to talk about it.
That was made up.
He's been talking about it consistently this whole time.
tim pool
The full context was he said, you know my position on this.
I want these things released.
So for now, I'm done talking about it because I'm going to trust them to do the right thing, blah, blah, blah.
libby emmons
And he meant for that part of the show.
tim pool
Yeah.
libby emmons
They talked about it later in the show.
phil labonte
Oh, okay.
libby emmons
Well, he just meant for right then.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, again, the administration is responsive to the people that have the president's ear, you know?
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
And I think that's it.
tim pool
I don't know why Trump is simultaneously blasting this thing off while obstructing it.
phil labonte
Pardon me?
tim pool
Trump is simultaneously blasting the Epstein story into the press while obstructing it.
libby emmons
It is weird.
breanna morello
Maybe to get Democrats to force their hand a little, but I know everyone talks about the 4D chest thing.
I always roll my eyes at it because it's a little bit more.
tim pool
It's an interdimensional time travel chess at this point.
breanna morello
Yeah.
I mean, listen, he's getting Democrats to sit out here and say that they wanted to release it, which is something they weren't willing to do previously.
So, I mean, maybe now you got them quoted on this and you could hold their feet to the fire a little bit, especially when it's their allies who are going to probably be listed in a lot of this.
tim pool
No idea.
I mean, Trump could just make a fake list.
libby emmons
You said that Hillary Clinton.
unidentified
I know I'm saying that Obama were looking to do that.
tim pool
They arrested Trump on fake charges they made up, and Trump is not doing anything in kind.
So it's like: if you want to know why the Democrats are evil and Trump is not, Trump is not making up fake charges to go after his enemies.
How about that?
It's going slow and we're unsatisfied because evil people are getting away with the evil they've done.
libby emmons
Yeah, and he isn't just making stuff up.
Although they still make stuff up, that whole Wall Street Journal story last week.
tim pool
Oh, the letter?
Yeah, that never actually explicitly stated it was signed Donald Trump.
breanna morello
And they won't show you it.
They won't show you the illustration.
tim pool
And it just said his name was on it.
libby emmons
Well, they said his name was on it as the pubic hair of the drawing.
tim pool
I found a bag of old McDonald's with Libby's name on it.
breanna morello
Was it hers?
tim pool
It said the word Libby.
I don't know if it was hers.
libby emmons
I think you should leak that to the Wall Street Journal.
tim pool
That's what they're doing.
They're like, Donald's name was on it.
Well, like, Donald's name is Donald, but a lot of people share that name.
Do you mean Donald Trump was written on it?
They don't say.
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
Because what they're basically telling you is they want you to assume it's Donald Trump because it said his name.
libby emmons
And it also, they say that basically it was using a thick black marker because nobody uses those except for Donald Trump.
He's the only one that has ever used a thick black marker.
tim pool
Well, it's true.
I didn't even, thick black marker is not even a thing you can buy.
libby emmons
No, you can't buy like from special order.
tim pool
That's right.
libby emmons
Special order.
You can't do it.
tim pool
Remember those metal ones?
libby emmons
The metal sharpies?
They had those?
tim pool
No, the metal black markers.
libby emmons
No.
tim pool
You don't remember those?
libby emmons
No.
phil labonte
Paint markers.
libby emmons
Oh, yeah.
phil labonte
Those are metal bodies, and you have to.
libby emmons
Once you say paint markers, I remember I have drawn in the wrong places with those.
phil labonte
Oh, really?
Libby being a rebel here.
libby emmons
Nah.
phil labonte
Admitting it on the internet.com.
libby emmons
Oh, I'm sure that's an actual deflimitation.
tim pool
Guys, you are all wrong.
I'm talking about this one.
I'm talking about this guy right here.
This bad boy.
breanna morello
Yeah.
Oh, it smells so good.
Don't they tell you they kill your brain cells?
I used to sniff those all the time.
phil labonte
We used to get high.
tim pool
We would connect all of them together.
libby emmons
Yeah, you could do that.
breanna morello
Yeah, that was great.
libby emmons
I was thinking of the actual paint markers with the really thick.
tim pool
King-size permanent marker was made of metal.
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
Yo, I went to an antique store and everything was metal.
libby emmons
Yeah, metal or properly made, proper wood, not amalgams of various materials.
tim pool
We got to go back.
Let's just no more plastic and Pizza Hut classic.
libby emmons
When I was buying furniture for my house, I bought old stuff.
I bought like a proper dresser that was made out of wood from, you know, 100 something years ago.
tim pool
You know, I just want to say Pizza Hut is disgusting, but I really want to go to Pizza Hut.
Because, you know, they've started rebuilding the OG ones.
phil labonte
Yeah, there's that one.
There's one in North Carolina.
tim pool
Like I said, they're bringing back Happy Gilmore, Scrubs, King of the Hill, Malcolm in the Middle.
They're literally just saying, guys, there's no young people to sell to anymore, so we're going to keep selling to you.
The world will be made for millennials.
And I'm like, I win.
libby emmons
You know what?
What about that thing?
I've read about this a fair number of times, and I don't know how pervasive it is, but there's like this alleged movement of Gen Zers who eschew their phones for the most part and hang out analog.
Is that for real?
tim pool
I don't know if I believe it.
unidentified
I don't know either.
breanna morello
Haven't met them.
tim pool
Maybe if you're talking about like homeless youth.
libby emmons
No, it's like rich kids in Brooklyn.
tim pool
I don't know, but you know what I want to do this weekend?
I want to go to that city in West Virginia where your phones don't work.
libby emmons
That sounds fun.
Oh, I had that last year.
I went on a ski trip.
I went to snowshoe.
And when I was like making the reservations and figuring it out, I was talking to this lady on the phone.
She was like, make sure to print out your directions because about an hour away from the mountain, your phone's going to start working.
And I was like, yes, this is amazing.
tim pool
Stop working?
libby emmons
Yeah.
Well, it didn't stop working, but I had no service for most of the trip.
What's that city?
tim pool
Is it Green Bank?
libby emmons
Well, I would check out that.
breanna morello
That would give me anxiety.
Yeah, Green Bank.
tim pool
Green Bank, West Virginia.
libby emmons
I would be okay with it because, you know what?
It's an excuse.
You can say to your colleagues, you know what?
I can't actually work this weekend.
If you need me, sorry, because I have no service.
Sometimes my Wi-Fi goes out at home and I have very bad self-service at my house.
And I'm just like, sorry, guys.
tim pool
They have a Western Union.
libby emmons
My Wi-Fi is done.
unidentified
Remember that?
libby emmons
Can't do any work.
tim pool
Oh, man.
libby emmons
I remember Western Union, yeah.
tim pool
A drive-in restaurant.
That is the place to go, man.
Cell phones don't work.
libby emmons
Sounds nice.
tim pool
That's what we need.
libby emmons
You know what?
You know what?
All they need is a new old pizza hut.
And it's okay.
breanna morello
I'm sold.
Enough crust.
tim pool
Yeah.
libby emmons
I made stuff here.
tim pool
There's an original pizza hut.
There's an original pizza hut about 40 minutes away from here.
breanna morello
Oh, really?
tim pool
And what people don't realize is that Pizza Huts began to remodel their Pizza Huts, and it's all Jack Pesobic's fault.
And this is not a good thing.
libby emmons
I remember that.
I loved that.
tim pool
It's not a joke.
libby emmons
I wrote a whole story about that.
tim pool
25 locations have been remodeled to the original Pizza Huts with indoor seating and salad bars.
And it is because of Jack Pesobic.
Did you write that it was because of Jack Pesobic?
libby emmons
No, I wrote when he started doing his whole Pizza Hut thing, I did like a whole kind of elaborate story about it.
unidentified
Pesobic services country never ends.
Indeed.
breanna morello
I'm a big fan of this.
Bring it back because those were the happier times.
I remember getting like when he had a real, and I had very few of these, but when he had a really good like spelling test score on your, on your spelling test at school, you get a coupon for a free personal pan.
libby emmons
Oh, dang, that's a good deal.
breanna morello
I know.
I know.
And that's when my parents would take us.
They never would take us otherwise.
tim pool
This is all that matters.
OG Pizza Hut.
Now, their food's disgusting.
Their wings are really good, but their pizza is like really low-quality garbage.
phil labonte
I disagree.
I still like Pizza Hut.
tim pool
It is full of chemicals and nasty garbage that has very bad taste.
unidentified
Yes.
phil labonte
That's why I would do it.
tim pool
Low-quality garbage.
breanna morello
I got to drink a little before I have that stuff.
tim pool
Papa John's is real.
libby emmons
It's Tucky Cheese.
tim pool
Papa John's is actual real ingredients.
libby emmons
Which I heard was recycled.
breanna morello
I know it's the ads, but.
tim pool
No, it actually is.
I take this very seriously.
Pizza Hut puts splenda in their crust.
unidentified
Oh, good lord.
tim pool
Artificial sweeteners in their crust.
And then Domino's isn't that bad, but they've got all the weird preservatives and stuff.
Papa John's ingredients for their dough is, I think it's like unbleached wheat flour, water, yeast, and soybean oil.
libby emmons
Okay.
tim pool
That's it.
Little Caesar is also really good.
Ingredients, bare minimum.
unidentified
Really?
tim pool
And I think the issue is they sell so rapidly that they're not super concerned with food spoiling.
libby emmons
What do you put in your pizza dough?
tim pool
Me?
Yeah.
I don't eat pizza dough.
libby emmons
You don't make pizza.
Oh, that's right.
You don't do any of the good stuff.
tim pool
Gluteny, carby.
libby emmons
I forgot.
tim pool
No, my pizza dough is made of cauliflower and whey protein.
libby emmons
Yeah, that sounds awful.
tim pool
Or, or, or Lou Malnadi's sausage crust.
You know what this is?
libby emmons
What?
It's a sausage crust.
tim pool
Lou Malnati's sells a piece of sausage this big with sauce and cheese on it that you bake.
libby emmons
No.
tim pool
The whole pizza itself is made of meat.
That's man pizza.
libby emmons
That sounds amazing, especially if you then top it with pepperoni and sausage and more sausage.
tim pool
The whole thing is sausage.
libby emmons
Where do you get talk about meat lovers?
tim pool
How you ordered online?
breanna morello
Online.
tim pool
I don't know if they sell them at the Lumel Nadi stores, but you can, did you look it up?
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, you can order them right now.
We ordered a whole bunch of them.
They have like a gluten-free crust, a regular crust, and then a sausage meat crust for the keto people.
No, Blaze Pizza has a keto crust as well.
It's a protein crust.
Pretty good.
Blaze is awesome.
Have you guys ever eaten at Blaze?
breanna morello
Yeah, they are good.
tim pool
I like it.
It's like Chipotle for pizza.
breanna morello
It's amazing.
tim pool
You walk up, you get in line, and you're like, I want the rising, the thick dough.
I want, you know, pesto sauce with mozzarella.
And they put it all on and then they throw it into a brick oven right in front of you.
And then you watch it for a few minutes and they pull it out and bang, you got a fresh hot pizza.
breanna morello
I remember, so I'm one of seven, so I have a lot of siblings.
My parents would have to like go get pizza all the time when we want, well, affordable pizza.
It's like $5 for a pie.
It's so crazy.
I go to a store now, it's like $22 for a pie of pizza.
What the heck's going on with this country?
tim pool
I'm getting hungry now.
phil labonte
I'm starving.
libby emmons
I could use some pizza on a pizza.
I love a pizza.
phil labonte
I'm dying.
tim pool
It's all closed?
unidentified
Everything goes at 12 now.
Yeah.
phil labonte
At 12.
tim pool
At 12?
Everything goes.
So you're saying we can't order pizza right now?
unidentified
I think so now.
Yeah, right now.
tim pool
We got a place nearby called Pizza Oven.
It's the best.
It's the best.
It's like a local spot, but they've got pizza with a crust that's like that thick.
libby emmons
Oh, that's nice.
tim pool
Big, thick, rising crust, and then you just drench it with sas.
Amazing.
libby emmons
Sas.
tim pool
Pizza oven.
libby emmons
Sas.
This is the Chicago coming out.
tim pool
No one in Chicago says sas.
libby emmons
Really?
Why do you say it?
tim pool
It's a joke.
libby emmons
Oh, okay.
tim pool
It would be like, if I talk like this, because I'm getting hummus.
libby emmons
Yeah, but people do talk like that.
tim pool
I know.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
Specifically, Serge.
libby emmons
Yeah.
phil labonte
Especially before the show starts.
That's exactly how Serge is starting.
tim pool
Yeah, Serge's accent that you hear on the show is actually fake.
He fights it.
unidentified
Actually, before the show, he talks like this for everything.
tim pool
Yeah.
And he's always answering questions with other questions.
phil labonte
You think I'm lying?
Or you think we're lying?
It's totally true.
That's why he's laughing like that.
He knows it.
He's like, you guys are blowing me up.
tim pool
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And so that is available now, and I recommend you watch it.
In the meantime, we will read your chats and rants.
All right, we got Thinker for Life who says, sound is low, Serge.
Well, that was the beginning of the show.
I'm sure he fixed it.
J. Dirt Biker says, the godfather of metal passed away on my 30th birthday.
Insert meme of Bobby Hill sad with devil horns here, Rip Ozzy, rock in paradise.
It is insane, the search volume on Ozzy Osborne.
I think Google Trends had him at like 10 million.
Currently right now, Ozzy Osborne trend, 10 million plus.
The second biggest trend, what do you guys think it is?
phil labonte
I don't even know.
tim pool
Any guesses on what a big trending story right now would be?
phil labonte
Donald Trump?
unidentified
No.
phil labonte
No?
libby emmons
I have no idea.
tim pool
Mega Dragonite with 100,000 searches.
libby emmons
I don't even know what that is.
phil labonte
Neither.
tim pool
Pokemon.
libby emmons
Oh, okay.
tim pool
That's crazy.
The top trend is Ozzy Osborne with 10 million plus.
The second biggest trend is Mega Dragonite with 100,000.
That's how impactful Ozzy was.
libby emmons
That's wild.
tim pool
That's crazy.
Rofflo says Trump's growing some balls.
Let's hope he'll actually be able to execute on getting Obama prosecuted in an unbiased federal court.
Indeed.
I don't know why Trump isn't rallying state-level attorneys general to aid him in these efforts the way Democrats did.
That's another thing that's really irksome to me.
You know, Ken Paxton, he's doing his thing.
It's very easy right now for Trump to say there's moves we can't make, but you have the entire chessboard.
It's not just one king on the board.
You've literally got every state and they do nothing.
breanna morello
Yeah.
Yeah.
Garrett Siegeler actually put together a list of AGs on the state level who go after Hunter Biden after he was issued the presidential pardon.
And none of the, and he's personally reached out to these offices to let them know where they could go and criminally charge Hunter and they did not do anything.
Those are our Republicans.
unidentified
Yeah.
All right.
tim pool
Bill Dozer says, the DNI under Trump's first admin had this info.
Why is he head of the CIA now?
It's all one big game, I guess.
It's hard to believe, isn't it?
True benefits.
Social wins are bigger for a cohesive population than policy, but would like both.
It's what I voted for.
Time is right again.
All right.
St. Miles says Mary Morgan is the oracle of Timcast, you know, because she thinks nothing ever happens.
phil labonte
Yeah, look, it's easy to be the oracle when, or it's easy to be right when you're permanently answering the same, with the same answer, right?
Like Perma Bears are permanently bears, and they're right when bear things happen.
Permabulls are Right when bull things happen.
But if you always give the same answer, you're going to be right.
tim pool
Pike County Zombie Control says the Trump admin will postpone arresting high-profile individuals until December or January.
That way, he'll be too cold for their zombie hordes to go out and riot.
Good point, actually.
Additionally, right before Christmas is a really great time because everyone leaves the news cycle.
So if the best time would literally, the best time for the arrests, I would imagine, would be the week of Thanksgiving or the week of Christmas because everyone's on vacation.
And even though they may hear it happened, nobody is going to leave their Christmas to go and write up a story and generate a bunch of anger to get protests or riots.
And it'll seriously impede their ability to file any legal challenges as well.
So maybe there will be a Christmas present.
phil labonte
Fingers crossed.
tim pool
What if Trump dressed up like Santa and then made a video where he like gets out of a, gets out of the beast with a bunch of FBI agents like from other vehicles, and they run to Obama's house and he's like, Merry Christmas, everybody.
And then you see Trump being Obama being like, God, and he's getting arrested.
phil labonte
I'd love it.
tim pool
Can someone make an AI video of that?
breanna morello
I was going to say it probably is already being made right now.
tim pool
Yeah.
Over the road, USA says, Tim, please help us in Minnesota.
Our new mayoral candidate, Omar Fateh, is worse than the New York candidate.
He says the biggest threat to America is white people.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, good luck.
That's what the left says, though.
This is nothing new and it's not unique to Omar.
This is just the way that the left has been portraying white people forever.
And it's a big part of the reason why the Democrats have such a problem with young white men.
This is the narrative they've been running for 15, 20 years now.
And men have essentially exodus from the Democrat Party and they're going to feel it.
tim pool
I'm tired.
breanna morello
No, no, no.
What's the rebuttal, though, on the right when it comes to this stuff?
Because nobody's really talking back to these voters.
I mean, the reality is the massive amount of people in that district, I believe, are Somalian refugees, if I'm not mistaken.
And why they flee Somalia to come here?
And again, if we are the biggest threat, you could have saved in your country.
phil labonte
They fleed Somalia to come here because of benefits.
breanna morello
To destroy us.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, I don't think that that's their actual intent when they're over there.
I think when they get here, they're like, oh, yeah, this is actually going to be beneficial for me if they ruin the country.
unidentified
They just made it Somalia.
phil labonte
What was that?
libby emmons
They just made it Somalia.
phil labonte
Yeah, they did.
tim pool
I just want to point out, I remember where I was when they tried to kill Trump, when Trump dodged the bullet.
I was at Potawatomi Bingo Casino as we were gearing up for the RNC shows, and we had just arrived, checked in and said, you know, let's go play some poker.
And so I was at a poker table.
And here's the secret, right?
Of course, y'all know that I like playing Texas Oldham, but a lot of politicians go to the poker rooms.
And so it's a great place to find people.
And sure enough, I was at a table with a couple of Republican politicians, state level.
And or one guy in particular, other guys had worked with lawyers and stuff.
When my phone's blowing up and I look and I see the video, by the time I got notified because of how serious this was, no one knew if Trump survived.
All they knew was that the live stream went out and Trump went down.
And so my phone's blowing up.
I pick it up.
I go on X and I'm watching clips.
And it's before anyone had posted videos of Trump getting back up.
As soon as the shots rang out, news articles were writing, Trump falls after loud noises.
I looked around once it was confirmed it was an assassination attempt and Trump was bleeding and those were gunshots and people had been shot.
No one in the casino flinched.
No TV changed.
No announcements were made.
And I was thinking like, am I wrong to assume that in the past, if something would have happened, they would have made an announcement like, ladies and gentlemen, an attempt has just been made on Donald Trump's life.
libby emmons
Do you think they would have said something if the worst had happened?
tim pool
No.
And that's the point that the casino didn't care to inform the people because they don't think it mattered to them.
And so I went to a restaurant, like we were hanging out.
We're like, we're going to get dinner.
And I was asking, you know, like, so the server, the host is there and like table for tour.
I was like, hey, did you hear that someone just tried to assassinate Trump?
And they went, no.
And I'm like, this is insane to me.
And so I bring this up because the title of this video is Trump just of the show.
Trump just accused Obama of Treason, calls for criminal charges.
And people care more about Ozzy Osborne.
Now, with all due respect to Ozzy Osborne, I do understand.
My point is you'd think that if a sitting president accused his predecessor of committing treason against the United States and called on national television to the press saying former President Obama has committed treason against this country and should be prosecuted and jailed, that is an insane historical precedent that no one cares about.
libby emmons
Yeah, and it is interesting, too, because in presidency's past, presidents didn't speak out about past presidents negatively, and past presidents didn't tend to weigh in.
George Bush did not really weigh in on Obama.
And when he was asked about what do you think of Obama's this and that, he said, you know, it's not my job to weigh in on the current president.
And that was sort of the standard.
People didn't do that.
Even, you know, even Gerald Ford pardoned Nixon.
He was just like, we're going to move past this now.
We're not going to dwell on this.
tim pool
You know what Trump should do?
When they start gearing up for primary season, they should copy Crossfire Hurricane verbatim in every way.
Take the documents in the Obama administration, copy them one for one, and apply them to the Democrat who's running.
And then if ever they're like, look what Trump is doing, they'll be like, hey, nothing's wrong with what we're doing.
It's identical to what they did, right?
In every single way.
There you go.
No one can complain, right?
Democrats all agree it's illegal.
unidentified
Oh, no, no, they definitely can complain.
phil labonte
They definitely will complain.
It doesn't matter what the right does.
If the right does it, it's bad.
And if the left does it, it's fine.
tim pool
I identify as tax exempt says the no tax on overtime in the must-pass bill sucks.
It caps at $12,000, and your base is still taxed even in overtime hours.
The only thing not taxed is the half pay added to your base pay.
Wow.
libby emmons
That is bogus.
The entire overtime pay should be tax-free, and it should be tax-free no matter what that how much you make of that a year.
That's bogus.
That is very bogus.
That's trash.
phil labonte
Just don't report.
No, I don't.
I can't say that.
I can't say that.
libby emmons
Get paid in cash.
It should be illegal to refuse to pay someone in cash.
tim pool
Shergall says silent generation is currently at 23 million.
Boomer is 66.9.
Gen X, 65.6.
Gen Y, aka Millennial, 72, Gen Z, 68, and Gen Alpha, 38.5.
Now, you got to understand that the reason why Gen X, Boomer, and Silent are lower is because they're dying.
libby emmons
Yeah, I lost like five friends just in my 20s alone.
tim pool
Right.
So the younger generation is usually much, much bigger because young people are alive.
People were having two to three kids, and the kids were living.
And then once you get into your 40s is when mortality starts to increase.
You'll see more and more of it.
Then your 50s, 60s, 70s, obviously it goes up.
It's the mortality cliff, they call it.
Around 70, everyone around you starts dying rapidly.
For obvious reasons.
It's life expectancy.
Yep.
Aussie Brad says the exact thing has happened in Australia.
Average home in Sydney is 1.2 million.
The younger generation can't buy or rent because of foreign investors and high immigration.
phil labonte
I don't understand how the politicians and the people that are in positions of authority don't see this as a problem.
libby emmons
Well, some of them do see it as a problem, and they don't get elected.
Like Pierre Polyev in Canada was running basically on a platform of Trudeau sucks, and we need our young people to be able to afford homes.
phil labonte
And there's not enough young people to outvote the old people.
libby emmons
And they voted for Mark Carney anyway.
phil labonte
So you just have to wait for the old people to kick off, I guess.
breanna morello
Well, and it doesn't help.
Sorry.
It doesn't help because Republicans are constantly, like in Florida, for example, they just allow, and I was screaming about this during the pandemic because they just allowed rent prices to skyrocket without any type of control or, because like normally, I think in New York, it's a couple of percentage points is how much you could rise up.
libby emmons
Yeah, there's a tenant can, there's a like tenant-landlord board that rent controls don't work, though.
phil labonte
You should actually, what the solution is, is to make sure that it's easier to build.
Because rent controls only drive up the prices.
Your landlords don't do improvements.
They don't fix things.
You end up with all kinds of bad results when you try rent control.
Rent controls have been tried multiple times in a bunch of different societies and different countries, and it just never works.
libby emmons
Well, what's interesting in New York is there's rent stabilization, and landlords can apply to be part of the rent stabilization program, but you don't have to.
But then what was interesting is you have, this is totally in the weeds, but I'm just going to go for it.
So Michael Bloomberg had this program, 80-20 housing, where it's 80% market rate and 20% like affordable housing.
And then, and it has to be in the same building, but your amenities end up being different.
And then Bill de Blasio came in and said, you can do 80-20, but it just has to be in the same zip code.
phil labonte
Oh, God.
Bill de Blasio was a terrible.
libby emmons
Really bad guy.
phil labonte
Terrible mayor.
libby emmons
Yeah.
phil labonte
All right.
tim pool
We got, Shalibi saying, Rip Ozzy Osborne, another metal legend gone, but he will live on in memory.
You know why this matters so much is that Ozzie is of a time when culture was unified.
phil labonte
Yep.
libby emmons
Yeah, that's right.
tim pool
So the story I've told recently, go to a bar and put Bohemian Rhapsody on the jukebox and see what happens.
libby emmons
Everyone knows the stupid words.
tim pool
Everybody sings.
And then put on a modern song and what happens.
Everybody breaks apart and goes off in the corners again.
libby emmons
Like that pink pony thing.
phil labonte
I have no idea what you're talking about.
libby emmons
It's terrible.
tim pool
What do you think is the most popular song Ozzie ever made?
phil labonte
Mama, I'm Comin Home or Crazy Train?
tim pool
Yeah, Crazy Train.
Mom, I'm Comin Home.
Yeah.
Crazy Train.
phil labonte
Crazy Train's huge.
tim pool
I wonder if you played Crazy Train in the bar, people would sing along.
libby emmons
I don't know it.
tim pool
You don't know Crazy Train?
libby emmons
I probably know it if you play it.
tim pool
You absolutely know Crazy Train.
Dan Erner.
libby emmons
It's like that thing you were talking about with TV episodes.
The only TV episode names I know are from friends, and that's because they're only all called the one where.
breanna morello
We'll talk y'all up movies.
libby emmons
Oh, yeah.
phil labonte
Crazy Train is his most dream show.
There's a collab with both Malone and Travis Scott called Take What You Want for the movies in 2019.
that has more streams than Crazy Train, but the most streamed, obviously, is Crazy Train.
libby emmons
I didn't know it had a name.
What?
I didn't know it had a name.
unidentified
Oh, really?
It was Train, you didn't know.
It's the Reed Lewis.
His last performance was so great, though.
I know a lot of people are very critical, but...
phil labonte
The worst thing about the reaction online are hitting on Ozzy because he was a Zionist.
I can't stand communists.
I cannot stand communists.
They're the worst.
They're all complaining, oh, he was a Zionist.
Well, you know what?
Shut your face.
tim pool
Dreamer is his biggest video on YouTube.
Followed by My Mom Coming Home, then No More Tears, then Mr. Crowley, then Crazy Train.
breanna morello
Wow.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Dreamer.
phil labonte
I'm not even familiar with that song.
tim pool
Yeah, man.
You know, we were much better off as a country when we had a shared culture.
phil labonte
It's true.
libby emmons
I think that's right.
But we also had the mechanisms to have a shared culture, and now we have the mechanisms to be divided.
tim pool
Trump should mandate by executive order a sitcom starring him because everybody already loved watching him and we all know it.
And then by law, force Americans to tune in.
Oh, he can use the presidential alert system so that every phone starts playing automatically.
libby emmons
Automatically like Ray Bradbury's Nightmare at all.
unidentified
No.
phil labonte
I mean, this is as much as, you know, it seems odd, but this is exactly why I am for making sure that we have the English as the national language, like actually enshrined in law, and then stop producing government materials in any other language aside from English.
Stop doing it.
If you're obviously, well, not obviously, but I'm not really for preventing private companies and stuff from producing things in other languages.
But we should do everything we can to make sure that everybody speaks English.
Schools shouldn't teach in other languages.
You should learn English.
And the reason is because we need a unified country.
It's part of assimilation.
And also, when you think in a certain language, there are certain concepts that only make sense in a certain language.
So everyone in America should at least be able to speak English fluently.
libby emmons
You know, what was interesting is my son did his confirmation study this year, and he was confirmed in our church.
And I was at a parents' meeting where one of the parents who spoke Spanish asked the deacon if they could do the catechism lessons in Spanish.
And the deacon was like, no, we teach these lessons in English.
And she said, well, you know, she learns most of her faith in Spanish.
And the deacon was like, well, now she's going to learn it in English.
phil labonte
Catholic Church English or Latin?
libby emmons
He was like, we are together.
This is one parish.
We're not dividing it up.
tim pool
Sue Enrod says, Rip Ozzie.
Every time a musician dies, Keith Richards experiences the quickening.
phil labonte
Yeah, Keith Richards is actually 73 years younger today.
tim pool
We need to reference this.
phil labonte
If you don't know what the quickening is, you need to watch Highlander.
tim pool
It's a quickening.
unidentified
Here we go.
tim pool
This is important context for everybody who's not from this time.
unidentified
The quickening.
Ha ha ha ha ha.
Run, run.
There can be only one.
Oh.
There can be only one.
There can be only one.
Great reference.
What a good movie, too.
Here we go.
tim pool
It takes a long time to get to it, right?
unidentified
It does, yeah.
Let's go back to when movies were like this.
I'm down with that.
What'd you say?
Yeah.
The quickening!
It's also real.
Very.
phil labonte
I know everything.
unidentified
I love this part.
The third part.
Doesn't get better than the easy sci-fi.
Yeah, I think I watched this high school forever ago.
tim pool
And there you go.
Now, now everybody who's never seen a Highlander knows what the quickening is.
libby emmons
Yep.
tim pool
Good reference.
All right.
Bach Bock says, my best friend died yesterday morning.
Christian father, patriot, chicken wrangler, and a fan.
If anyone would like to help his family, go fund me handled by his church.
Help Nathan Bobek's family through cancer battle.
Sad to hear it, man.
Sad to hear it.
I wish you guys the best.
Hope it works out.
libby emmons
Yeah, that's terrible.
tim pool
Worthless says, Secret Service guarded Mar-a-Lago.
FBI had shoot to kill to use against loyal Secret Service agents who were later culled from the service.
Why they were so easily able to set him up for assassination.
breanna morello
The documents that were dumped that alleged that also had three on three different pages had that the FBI did communicate with Secret Service prior to getting onto Mar-a-Lago, getting onto the property.
So there was a little bit of communication back and forth between both agents.
tim pool
It's just the idea that with that communication, you don't need anyone to bring weapons.
You literally just be like, hey, we're coming on by and you got a warrant or whatever.
breanna morello
Exactly, yeah.
tim pool
Rodney says, what's good for the goose is good for the gander.
Obama and his sycophants must be brought to justice or the bad guys win.
Yes.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
You're not going to find any argument with us.
tim pool
Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says, I spend the day outside putting up trail cams in our beautiful West Virginia woods, then come home to get angry over this BS of weak Republicans and terrible Dems.
You know?
Take it day by day, you know what I mean?
What did Muhammad Ali say?
Don't count the days, make the days count.
phil labonte
There you go.
tim pool
You know, you got to get out there every day and do what you can.
Don't let the day pass you by.
We got up super early.
A couple weeks ago, we went to Top Golf the moment they opened.
And it was totally worth it.
One of the most frustrating things ever is just how lazy everyone everywhere is.
Always.
Because they're always like, I'll be there at 1.
And I'm like, no, no.
I wake up at 7 a.m.
Okay.
I'm getting up at 7 a.m.
As soon as light is shining through the, I awake.
I could sleep for, I go to bed at 5 a.m.
I'm waking up at 7.
Everybody else is like, I'm sleeping in.
And I'm like, I don't know how people do it.
breanna morello
Yeah.
I'm up at 4 a.m. every single day.
unidentified
4.
breanna morello
Yeah, because I do an audio-only news update, but I don't know how people sleep in.
I don't know what that term even means.
Today was my sleeping day, and I was still up at 5.
libby emmons
I never have that.
I don't have that problem.
tim pool
Sleeping in?
libby emmons
No, I wake up at like 6.30 or 7, but if I know I don't have to, like usually I'm up around 6.30 or so, but if I know I don't have to, I'm perfectly comfortable sleeping until 9.30 or 10.
tim pool
No way.
On the days that we actually get people rallied up early in the morning, it feels like three weekends in one.
Like we went top, we went to Top Golf, then we went to Barcelona and Reston, one of the best restaurants ever.
I recommend it.
It's Tapas.
It's just, it's insanely delicious.
They just dump olive oil all over the table.
It's amazing.
And then we went bowling in the arcade at the mall, and then we went and got coffees and then went to the casino.
And it was just like, man, it was like three weekends in one when you get up early.
So normally everybody's like, I'm not getting up till late.
So I just play Zelda or something.
breanna morello
Yeah, you get so much.
And at the older I get, the more I turn into my parents.
My parents would always be like the first one at the supermarket when it opens.
And they're like, oh, there's no lines.
This is incredible.
And now I'm like right there waiting in the Costco parking lot for them to open the door.
libby emmons
You know what's fun as being the last person in the grocery store.
Then everyone's looking at you like, why are you still here?
Just leave.
That's fun too.
phil labonte
Just leave.
breanna morello
Just leave.
libby emmons
Just take it.
tim pool
Druid Arrow.
Druid Arrow says, I agree illegal immigrants should not be able to vote.
However, our Constitution states that they are counted as three-fifths.
Read the three-fifths once.
unidentified
No, that is not the case, my friend.
phil labonte
That is not the case.
breanna morello
That was Mark Elias.
phil labonte
I can't figure out if that's a serious thing or not, if they're serious or not.
But you're wrong.
Jeez, that's ridiculous.
tim pool
Yeah.
Where is it?
I'm trying to find the actual writing of the three-fifths compromise.
libby emmons
The three-fifths compromise was the North saying you can only allow your enslaved persons to count for three-fifths of a person.
Otherwise, you will have too much representation.
It will be outsized compared to what your citizenry actually is.
So the North was arguing that people who were enslaved in the South should not count toward the House of Representatives.
And the South was saying they should count fully.
So the three-fifths was a compromise made so that the South got a little and the North got a little.
But basically, the North was saying that the enslaved people should not count at all.
phil labonte
Enslaved people that can't vote for the people.
tim pool
Let's see.
libby emmons
Just like, yeah.
tim pool
So Article 1, Section 2, Clause 3, representatives and direct taxes shall be apportioned among several states, which may be included within this union according to their respective numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole number of free persons, including those bound to service for a term of years and excluding Indians not taxed, three-fifths of all other persons.
Is that correct?
Yeah.
The three-fifths clause includes illegal immigrants.
libby emmons
Oh, did it include illegal immigrants?
Well, because people are taxed people who are taxed.
tim pool
No, it says all other persons.
libby emmons
Right.
All other persons.
And it includes Indians because Indians were not taxed.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Representatives and direct taxes will be apportioned among the several cities.
Interesting.
So shouldn't the census have the citizenship question for the purpose of the Constitution stating illegal immigrants only count three-fifths?
That's insane.
phil labonte
It absolutely should.
It should only be citizens.
It shouldn't be just people that are in the country.
libby emmons
Right.
phil labonte
You know, the idea that, oh, there are people there, so they count towards representation.
Well, they're not voting.
And they're not, if they're not American citizens, they're not technically under the jurisdiction of the United States.
libby emmons
But they are being taxed.
unidentified
Wow, it's in the Constitution.
libby emmons
But also, at that time, was there an issue of illegal immigration?
Was this a thing?
tim pool
Nope.
libby emmons
No.
tim pool
Because you couldn't vote unless you owned property.
unidentified
Right.
libby emmons
So you couldn't vote unless you owned property.
But if they weren't struggling with illegal immigration at the time, I think this would be a new question for the Supreme Court.
tim pool
The North wanted to exclude slaves, and the South wanted to include slaves.
libby emmons
Exactly.
tim pool
Since slaves had no voting rights, a compromise was struck to resolve the impasse.
Three-fifths of each state's slave population toward that state's total population for the purpose of apportioning House of Representatives, effectively giving the Southern states more power in the House relative to the Northern states.
It also gave slaveholders similarly enlarged powers in Southern legislatures.
It was an issue in the secession of West Virginia.
In the Constitution, the three-fifths compromise is part of Article 1, Section 2, Clause 3, which states all other persons will count towards three-fifths.
So that is correct.
It does count illegal immigrants.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
There you go.
So, because I was saying that the Democrats would basically try and pull a three-fifths compromise with illegal immigrants.
I was wrong.
They don't need to.
It's already in the Constitution.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
And that's the funny thing about the Constitution.
How many conservatives are going to be like, wait a minute, what?
That's right.
Illegal immigrants count three-fifths.
So the only real issue at play right now is that they're counting them for one whole person towards apportionment instead of three-fifths.
Maybe Trump could do that and strip them of at least two-fifths of their power.
libby emmons
Well, I think that would definitely end up at the Supreme Court.
But what would be interesting, too, was you would suddenly have the left saying Donald Trump thinks illegal immigrants are, you know, akin to people who are enslaved.
Meanwhile, the Democrats would be the ones treating illegal immigrants like they are slaves.
tim pool
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breanna morello
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libby emmons
I would like to shout out thepostmillennial.com and humanefence.com and also my newsletter, which you can subscribe to along with Brianna's.
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tim pool
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Don't miss the show.
unidentified
We'll see you all there.
tim pool
Did you guys see that article?
I think we talked about it the other day where women are becoming gay because they're feminists?
libby emmons
Feminism turns you gay?
tim pool
Yeah, it's called heterofatalism.
The problem with wanting men.
Is that what it's called?
libby emmons
That doesn't seem like a problem to me.
tim pool
Well, that's what the New York Times published.
So basically, it's just...
If anything ever had me convinced to repeal the 19th, it is this article right now from the New York Times, The Trouble with Wanting Men.
libby emmons
The Trouble with Wanting Men.
tim pool
Where basically this like aging feminist divorcee hooks up with a guy on their first date.
A week later, he says, thanks, but I'm not interested.
And she gets really angry and she's like, well, he was shit anyway.
And it's like, maybe if you weren't a whore, the guy would be interested in you.
But what's happening is these women, they want to be girl bosses.
Then they want to have sex immediately and they're wondering why guys don't want to be with them.
And I'm like, maybe it's because the men are looking for women who are going to be loyal, faithful, and want to be wives, not girl bosses.
So instead of self-reflecting and saying, maybe I'm undesirable, they say, the problem is men.
Men are.
libby emmons
So this is part of the whole hookup culture that was sold to women by Cosmo magazine and Glamour and all of these other things, as well as the pervasive collective culture at the time that told women that they should be like this.
So, I mean, you can say that, you know, it's all women's fault or whatever, but they were led down this path and they went, but they were led down this path.
tim pool
There's this other one, men, where have you gone?
Please come back.
And I see this and I'm like, is the New York Times staff 80% women writing for 80% women?
libby emmons
Probably, yes.
I mean, also, so's the New Yorker.
There was a very interesting thing where, where is it?
I have it.
Where the New York Times ran an article about how it's wrong to keep shunning your MAGA relatives.
And the New Yorker ran an article that said, it's time to shun your MAGA relatives.
It's a pretty interesting and bizarre contrast.
breanna morello
Yeah, I think women are going to start waking up and realize that they were sold a bed of lies.
libby emmons
It's a lot of lies.
breanna morello
And I feel bad because sometimes it happens too late in the game for women, and it's very unfortunate.
But I think we need to start highlighting that a lot of the women who are going out there and attacking men, their masculinity, are women who lead personally miserable lives.
And the more women I speak to, sadly, who have decided to go with this feminist movement and when they get to their 40s, they just don't, they're not happy people.
They're empty people.
They're empty vessels.
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